Printable View
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054688]What happens when the 500 k guy is done with her? Suddenly your phone starts ringing. Question is, will you be in town when it rings?[/QUOTE]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.
It is easy to let your guard down in a city as seamless as Medellin. To maintain your edge, approach your environment with deliberate focus and remain selective about your associations. Ensure that your inner circle is composed of individuals whose incentives align with your own, thereby eliminating unnecessary vulnerabilities. Vigilance is a prerequisite for sustained success here. Stay safe & Have Fun. PN.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054714]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.[/QUOTE]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054793]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.[/QUOTE]I would say don't worry about what others are spending. Just make more money. I would also say let the girls make more money from any other sources. There are guys who want to make the girls suffer financially in a number of countries so that the price of pussy can go down. It is a bit selfish that you would want others to suffer so you can save a few dollars.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054714]That's a good question. In Colombia you have more leverage but in the USA they will be gone. The girls who are on OF / Instagram and have a lot of gringos in their orbit can get money for doing nothing.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't say that creating a stream of income on Only Fans or Instagram or by webcamming is doing nothing. It takes a lot of effort to create entertainment that others are willing to pay for. There is intense competition because there are no barriers to entry so to make money, you really need to work hard at it. For guys who are not in Colombia, they are not getting nothing. They are getting interactions with the girls and entertainment.
[QUOTE=KeviKev68;3054569]I appreciate your post but you have break it down with actual paragraphs. It depends on how often you go there. I don't like one offs. I pay between 200 k and 500 k. If you pay a girl 300 k and the next guy gives her 500 k she might be done with you. It depends on the girl and I really like her. I pre fed to choose chicas who have real jobs.[/QUOTE]This is completely not true. The girls know that the going rate is 300 K. But that doesn't change the fact that if there's no better deal floating around, they'll compromise maybve take 200 K. And if they can get 500 K or more out of him, then fantastic. But it doesn't mean that it changes the fact that they know the average cost is 300 K. In the same evening, I've seen the same top-looks girl take 700 k off one guy and then agree to 200 k off the second guy as the night was gertting late. Same girl I then saw a couple days later for 300 K without even asking or negotiating, I just asked her out and gave her 300 K and she didn't bat an eye. Doesn't mean that some girls are pickier and stand their ground for 400 K, but I've never had a girl stand their ground for anything above that.
[QUOTE=Knowledge;3054578]My favorite part of your advice is stay away from other gringos. It's valid on several levels.[/QUOTE]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3054793]Yea the simping has got to stop. I'm hoping AI will kill OF and Instagram.[/QUOTE]Ha, I didn't even think about that but I think this is actually an important point. AI is already getting crazy good, biggest problem is currently that most clips are short, but tech to make them longer already exists and it's only a matter of time before that really is going to have a big impact on the porn sector. And then logically it will become tempting for these girls to go back to hooking again. Interesting!
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054801]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.[/QUOTE]I guess the point is that gringos don't represent the culture of the country you're in. If you really wanted to hang out with gringos, there's plenty of time to do that when you go back home. I'll hang out with a gringo every once in a while, and its a nice change once in a while, but I spend 90% of the year travelling. If you really want to get to know the country that you might live in, the advice is still good. Avoid the gringos, go find some local friends. Or you're never going to learn the spanish that will open up so many more opportunities for you.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054800]This is completely not true. The girls know that the going rate is 300 K. But that doesn't change the fact that if there's no better deal floating around, they'll compromise maybve take 200 K. And if they can get 500 K or more out of him, then fantastic. But it doesn't mean that it changes the fact that they know the average cost is 300 K. In the same evening, I've seen the same top-looks girl take 700 k off one guy and then agree to 200 k off the second guy as the night was gertting late. Same girl I then saw a couple days later for 300 K without even asking or negotiating, I just asked her out and gave her 300 K and she didn't bat an eye. Doesn't mean that some girls are pickier and stand their ground for 400 K, but I've never had a girl stand their ground for anything above that.[/QUOTE]I agree with your assessment. What a girl will eventually accept depends on the particular circumstances and how busy she is. If there is plenty of business at the higher rate, she won't take less. If business is slow, she will likely take it but she may not take it next time when business picks up. Of course, when we talk about girls, not all girls are the same, and they know where their worth based on age and attractiveness.
[QUOTE=MoonShot;3054797]I would say don't worry about what others are spending. Just make more money. I would also say let the girls make more money from any other sources. There are guys who want to make the girls suffer financially in a number of countries so that the price of pussy can go down. It is a bit selfish that you would want others to suffer so you can save a few dollars.[/QUOTE]I do make more money and pay more than I ever have for sex. I admit I am selfish, I think those that don't admit it are deluding themselves. Its just human nature.
[QUOTE=FunLuvr;3054577]If you interperse your narrative with Spanish words, it will help others to understand if the words are used correctly and spelled correctly. Contrasea translated is password. I have no ides what a nervous password is. I suppose you mean cedula when you write seedula. Cedula is a Colombian ID card.[/QUOTE]Clarification for those who don't know:
In Colombia, a contrasena is a temporary document that serves as proof of identification while a citizen is waiting for their official national identity card (Cedula de Ciudadana) to be processed or renewed.
So if chica never had cedula (just turned 18) or lost her cedula she receives contrasena first and cedula later. Old style yellow cedulas were issued before end of 2020 with DOB on the back and the new ones have it on front side. So if chica less than 25 years old and has old style cedula it's fake for sure.
Contrasena is easier to fake, so OP was right advising to avoid them. But even if chica has fisical cedula you aren't guaranteed that it's real -there are a lot of fake cedulas in Medellin. It's cheaper and faster to get fake cedula than the real one. Over the years my front desk stopped more than 10 chicas with fake cedulas (verifying against police database).
[QUOTE=VsebudetNY;3054882]Clarification for those who don't know:
In Colombia, a contrasena is a temporary document that serves as proof of identification while a citizen is waiting for their official national identity card (Cedula de Ciudadana) to be processed or renewed.
So if chica never had cedula (just turned 18) or lost her cedula she receives contrasena first and cedula later. Old style yellow cedulas were issued before end of 2020 with DOB on the back and the new ones have it on front side. So if chica less than 25 years old and has old style cedula it's fake for sure.
Contrasena is easier to fake, so OP was right advising to avoid them. But even if chica has fisical cedula you aren't guaranteed that it's real -there are a lot of fake cedulas in Medellin. It's cheaper and faster to get fake cedula than the real one. Over the years my front desk stopped more than 10 chicas with fake cedulas (verifying against police database).[/QUOTE]Fake or real, no hotel or any other business will accept a cedula contraseņa so if that is all a chica has for an ID it should be a dead deal right then and there. When I was approved for my cedula it was during the time when they were having problems producing the cedulas and they passed a law stating that the contraseņa was a legal document and had to be accepted by businesses and they gave you a document along with the contraseņa stating this and they told me to show it to any business that refused to accept the contraseņa,it was useless, toilet paper. I showed it to the folks at Claro, Bancolombia, etc. And they just refused it. I couldn't get a Nequi account opened either because they require a photo of both front and back of your cedula and the contraseņa only shows the front. Major hassles for me, it took these clowns eleven months to get me my cedula.
It is not a binary choice. I enjoy an active social life and I see as few or as many women as a like at any given time. I don't socialize with gringos on any regular basis but I understand how it can be important to hang around other gringos. It's just nor for me. I have a small circle of gringo friends. You might see it differently if you were a resident rather than a visitor.
[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;3054801]Second post in a row, which I completely disagree with. Some of the best friends I have made in Colombia have been other gringos, and I've actually built a small network of them that are great people. It's actually part of the reason I would eventually hope to retire in Colombia because of the network of great friends that I've made. Whether having a beer in the early afternoon with some new friends or getting a couple guys together and hitting some restaurant and clubs with some girls, life is meant to be social. I mean, if you're new to this, sure, go down, spend the first days just having as many girls as you can and getting over it and making up for a life of lack. But once you're over that, then you feel like being social, then making some friends where you can be open of what you do and enjoy is actually quite nice.[/QUOTE]
More often than not, random interactions I have with gringos here leave me feeling uneasy. An extreme example of what I try to stay away from are the foreigners who hang around together at Plaza Botero. I mean wtf, seriously? LOL!
[QUOTE=GringoLoko;3054664]Agreed. For some reason other gringos love hanging out with me and want to spend more time with me than chicas it is so gay haha. Just ruins my trip.[/QUOTE]