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[QUOTE=OldParr;1781713]I am planning a trip to Cartagena for October 2016 can anyone tell me if Elektra will still be open when I arrive?
Thank you![/QUOTE]Nothing much to do and spending your time acting like a dick on the forum for your entertainment.
[QUOTE=BlackPage;1781919]Best Post of the Week.[/QUOTE]Urban is very appreciative of your nomination. Hope to see you at Elektra next October. Maybe Mojo Bandit will be around as well.
[QUOTE=Padington;1781974]Nothing much to do and spending your time acting like a dick on the forum for your entertainment.[/QUOTE]Not sure what you are talking about but do I care, no. I simply asked a question to the forum community, as I read back through the forum for the past year and could not find any information on the stability of Elektra and LDV. Do you care to answer my question, or is it to mentally challenging for you? Your kindness Padington in doing so will be greatly appreciate if you are able to handle it. Also does LDV still have free lancers? Are they beautiful? Is there a drink minimum? What are the hours of Elektra? Inquiring minds want to know.
[QUOTE=MojoBandit;1779485]I do not know your definition of "upscale" and yes some of the apartments I am going to direct you look "dated", and I do not know how many bedrooms you are looking for. But if the issue is having guests then I would bet on the sure thing; Juan Ventura has always been very good to me (he will tell you which apartments are "guest" friendly) so I am oblicated to shill for him andd the last apartment that I sayed in was fairly nice (Playa 301).
[URL]http://www.venpro.net/[/URL]
When I tried the above link from my emails from juan I had no problems but when I click in it here it presents a blue screen. Maybe some othiner members can shed light on why it does this. This is from an email that is a few years old;
try this, copy and paste this into your browser: http://www.venpro.net/fotosapartamentos/index.htm[/QUOTE]Mojo,
Thank you for taking the time to answer my message, by upscale I mean penthouse (no less than 3 rooms). I'm getting the same Blue screen =(. Now I have zero knowable on the scene in Cartagena, from the reading seems the prices are way higher than Bogota and Medellin. So as of now the best option for girls is tinder? Or the tradition working girls houses?
Thanks guys.
[QUOTE=Padington;1781974]Nothing much to do and spending your time acting like a dick on the forum for your entertainment.[/QUOTE]Old Parr is not a dick. Old Parr is Socrates reincarnated, a Shaolin master, who makes us question our fundamental knowledge and beliefs. Learn from him young grasshopper.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;1785636]Old Parr is not a dick. Old Parr is Socrates reincarnated, a Shaolin master, who makes us question our fundamental knowledge and beliefs. Learn from him young grasshopper.[/QUOTE]Too funny!
If you around at the end of month lets have a drink or 2 or 3 or.
I am in Puerto Vallarta at the moment, as it is blue marlin fishing time here with a couple of Marlin and Sailfish tournaments in October and November.
LDV Update from my trip in the beginning of September.
There seems to be many different versions of what happening down there. I thought I could help clear up at least Dolce Vita as I went there (9) (including 2 Fridays) straight nights and spent anywhere from 2-5 hours there each night.
I am extremely picky (yeah I know they all say that-But I am) and I will not leave with "any" chica just for the sake of boning. If the girl gives me the slightest indication that she's a "pro" I am turned off completely. (By pro I mean someone who does this for a living most every night) I am in a constant hunt for the "newbie" or "semi-pro" who does this sort of thing "on occasion" to pay the bills. Of course I've been fooled. But that's not important. What's important is that.
I think this in my head. After spending the last 10 years going to Brazil I have become pretty good at sniffing "semi pros" out going to "Help" and then "The Balcony". Never liked the termas and the thought that these girls were factory.
Fucking.
After my first trip to CTG I am very happy to report that this type of "Clean Cut" - "non jaded" - "Newbie Type" girl does exist at LDV. And also need to say that the quality of woman far exceeded my expectations. Out of 9 straight nights I pulled Hotties out of there 5 of those nights. ALL whom had Hot bodies (none over 125 lbs) . I know a face scale can be "relative" . But the "worst" I pulled out of there was 7. 5 (She had a killer bod to compensate and was also.
Super sweet). All the rest were solid 7. 75,8, 8, and up to an absolute stunner that was an 8. 5 in my book (On my scale a 10 does not exist) so she was hot hot.
Now some helpful INTEL and observations on LDV. In no particular order. First. It really does not get going until 11 pm at the earliest (That's when you will likely have the best selection). The best night of all nights is Friday (By far).
They have "theme" nights every Friday night and these girls as well as the LDV staff really get into this. One Friday was "All White night" the other was " Wear your white with black ribbon Cartagena Hat". Not important you dress up BTW.
(though it couldn't hurt). I found the later in the week was better atmosphere and quality (Thur / FR / Sat) But don't count out Sun / Mon / Tue / Wed. They seemed to be a little more hit and miss but by all means there was usually.
"something" of reasonable interest in there.
One thing I did not like was the "1 hour quote". In Brazil I always tried and negotiated for the entire night but that's just not prevalent here. The one hour standard rate here (For the 7. 5's - 8's) girls was 250 k-300 k CP. For the stunner I.
Pulled wanted 400 k CP and I did not even bat an eyelash when she quoted that. Now. For the Spanish Speaking issue. Yes this is a HUGE advantage to be able to do this because 90% of them speak no english. Me being 100%.
Caucasian Gringo shocked the living shit out of them when I belted out my Spanish (I had worked for Club med in Mexico for 3 years and learned mostly there). I am not "fluent" but absolutely "conversational". So what I was able to do.
To differentiate myself was to chat these girls up a bit (to see if I liked them) before I ever mentioned a price. This did payoff and I was able to do 2-3 hour sessions with some for 350-400 k once I had built a rapport. But Just because.
You don't speak Spanish don't think its a deal killer. These girls know enough English to quote price. One huge thing. They will always try and work you to pay there taxi on the way out. THis kind of pissed me off so once I got.
Wise to this once a price was quoted I would say for all. No taxi! (Para todo. No taxi) and they all would go along with it. If you do pay for taxi. You should not have to pay more than 10 k CP as most of these girls are living or staying in Boca Grande. But clear this up front so they don't try and work you for more.
What was on the sex menu?. Pretty much everything is negotiable. For fun I always bring down fun sex toys to play with. (buy on eBay-ship from China are less than $5 each). Many have never used these as they nor there men can.
Afford them so they get a kick out of it. I always made sure they understood 1 hour means 1 hour. Not 1 POP. Just in case I was a 3 pump chump I didn't want them leaving after 2 minutes ha ha ha. I was surprised that the stunner.
Was the most uninhibited allowing me to pull my favorite porn CIM finish. The most sexy girl next door innocent one I had was a student from Barranquilla. 22 Tall, long dark hair, super feminine super sexy. Took the bus from.
Barranquilla (1.5 hrs) (For Friday Night) to make money to pay for her English lessons. After a stellar sessions I ask her in Spanish "what are your dreams" Know what the first thing she says?? " A new rack" ! I almost busted.
Out in laughter thinking she was joking. But NO. 100% serious. I told her. "What a great dream" and went in for 2nd.
Overall a great time in Cartagena. I would have to say me and my buddy I was there with (gringo who also speaks Spanish) absolutely killed that club. The owner "Aldo" Italian guy super cool in his late 50's prob been in this business.
Since he was 19. Say Hi to him and introduce yourself. (can't miss him-he is an obvious VIP). Its definitely worth it. We also became good friends with the door and bar staff the fastest way possible (Throw tips at them) and they took.
Great care of us and gave us great lowdown on any particular girl we were interested in. I did pop in to Tu Candela and MR Babilla but can't say I gave it a fair shake. I did walk the famous Hollywood beach and found the women there.
To be absolutely skanky so I always mongered at night. Gave a call to a Guy (on mil eroticos) who reps 10 different girls some who are models. Sent me some pics of some hot ones he guaranteed were real pics. Wanted $500 k for 1 hour.
So I thought that was a bit steep and passed. Also one of the kind members on this forum said he did extremely well at this clock tower (that I never made it to also). Now for the big news. I just booked my next trip to CTG Nov 29 to Dec 5 and will be rolling down there Hans Solo for another week of debauchery. Hit me up with a message if you care to collaborate on some chicas. I would be happy to help out any way I can!
Mikeyshouse out!
I am in Cartagena for several days and have spent the last three late evenings at the Torre del Reloj scouting out the girls. The first two nights, due to the holiday, were fairly busy with many people about and not all were mongering. Many tourists were out late. However, I estimate anywhere from 30-40 girls passed through from 11 pm to 1 am when I left. Last night, though the number of girls were around 15-20 though it did appear to become busier after 1am.
Since I am quite particular and did not see anyone of interest, I kept my powder dry on Saturday and Sunday. Many of the girls were quite chubby or gordita with quite a few silicone bags about. Really not my thing. I may even have spotted a tranny or two as some of these girls? were of the linebacker variety. I even brushed one off on Sunday eve who sat down next to me as her voice seemed a bit deep.
Last night, I was sitting on the bench for quite a while when I spotted a PYT (pretty young thing) on an a opposing bench working her cell phone in a concentrated manner. We glanced at each other a few times and then finally she came over and sat next to me. We exchanged greetings and she immediately asked if I would like company to which I replied not tonight. Our conversation was all in Spanish and though I am not totally fluent, I can speak enough to have a reasonable non complex chat.
This girl was young, perhaps around 20-21 yo, petite, and with a canela skin color. Really pretty and seemed quite nice, nicely dressed, and well mannered. She told me that she was from MDE and lived in the north of the city (I am trying to remember the name of that neighborhood in the northern part of MDE--Bello?) as I have met a few girls from there in Reloj in the past, who have provided excellent service.
She told me (her name is Karen) that she was attending MDE university where she was studying forensic science, had been in CTG for a week staying at a small hotel in Bocagrande, and was returning to MDE next week on the following Wednesday. She also said that she had no babies and the photo of a child on her phone belonged to her aunt who she lives with in MDE as her parents are deceased. She said her tuition cost was $2. 2 mm per semester.
So far, she is checking all my boxes as I prefer early 20's, non-pros, uni students (if possible), with the desired flaca and petite appearance. She also said she liked to kiss and asked me the same, and as a bonus liked to drink rum. Her beautiful cinnamon skin color also sweetens the deal for me. Her bio seems almost too perfect to be true, which is my only real concern. Maybe I just hit the jackpot too. Let's hope!
I was not interested last night due to the late hour and I have been thinking about doing a late afternoon session instead, which I proposed to her for today. She seemed quite pleased with this idea so we exchanged phone numbers. Around this time, I asked her price and she quoted $100 USD for two hours and I indicated dissatisfaction at this price whereupon she decreased her price to $250 k COP. I still have not committed to the offer but it does not seem entirely unreasonable given how attractive she is and her overall demeanor.
I also mentioned that I was going to Santa Marta at the end of the week and was staying in a nice hotel there. Naturally, she expressed an interest in providing company, which I will consider depending on todays session. Kind of curious what other members might offer for a three night weekend in Santa Marta? I was thinking $200 COP per day or $600 COP for the weekend though I may be creating a pricing dilemma for myself if I pay her the $250 COP that she is asking for today.
Going to be I town early to Mid November. Looking for any fellow mongering amigo looking to prowl the streets together.
PM if interested.
JK214
I like the fact that you are digging her scene. To me this is a crucial deciding factor in this because you could easily pay 250 COP for just one hour for some gorda fea you "weren't that attracted to". $250 COP for 2 hours for a chica you are attracted to and also "like her company " is a no brainier! Great find. As for the Santa Marta thing. First of all I would make that entire "Santa Marta" package deal contingent upon your "test drive". We all tend to think do our best critical thinking once we've "emptied the wine cellar". Meaning try the 2 hour deal and then see how you feel after. It sounds like you already realize these girls get like zero opportunities for a free trip + daily stipend. My buddy (who is a true stickler) always says "I will pay your trip-all expenses, But anything we do in bed is just part of the deal". He actually has pulled this off successfully a number of times BUT personally I would pay also. I think the deal you are offering her a great deal for her and she would be stupid not to take it. Whats she going to do troll the beach and probably end up with some guy she doesn't like anyways. The fact you 2 have chemistry is a bonus for her also plus she is guaranteed.
That money will come in over 4 days with you now. Now is it a good deal for you? Put this in perspective. Do you think odds are great you will find someone in SM that's as good or better than her? Hell. With how selective you are you may go all 4 days and end up with nothing. $275 US rough at 200 cop per day for 4 days US for 4 days of romping with a girl you like is a great deal. Sure you can get her for less. Throw out a number see what she does. But in the end you can't go wrong with the 200 cop per day in SM. Several times I have regretted in Brazil not paying more to bring a Hotty on the Buzioz trip because she wanted more than what I wanted to give her. I would go to Buzios and end up either empty handed or with a girl I wasn't real thrilled. Please tell what happens!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1786670]I am in Cartagena for several days and have spent the last three late evenings at the Torre del Reloj scouting out the girls. The first two nights, due to the holiday, were fairly busy with many people about and not all were mongering. Many tourists were out late. However, I estimate anywhere from 30-40 girls passed through from 11 pm to 1 am when I left. Last night, though the number of girls were around 15-20 though it did appear to become busier after 1am.
Since I am quite particular and did not see anyone of interest, I kept my powder dry on Saturday and Sunday. Many of the girls were quite chubby or gordita with quite a few silicone bags about. Really not my thing. I may even have spotted a tranny or two as some of these girls? were of the linebacker variety. I even brushed one off on Sunday eve who sat down next to me as her voice seemed a bit deep.
Last night, I was sitting on the bench for quite a while when I spotted a PYT (pretty young thing) on an a opposing bench working her cell phone in a concentrated manner. We glanced at each other a few times and then finally she came over and sat next to me. We exchanged greetings and she immediately asked if I would like company to which I replied not tonight. Our conversation was all in Spanish and though I am not totally fluent, I can speak enough to have a reasonable non complex chat..[/QUOTE]
To follow up on my report from the day before yesterday:
The girl came over to my apartment the following day as scheduled though arrived a 1/2 hour late at 4:30. After a short drink of rum, she suggested we proceed to the bedroom where the first snag immediately appeared as she wanted to be paid beforehand. I never do that for reasons most board members would understand and told her that was not going to happen. I also found her request a bit disturbing as most semi-pros are usually more relaxed about when they receive payment. Subsequently, I began to feel she was more pro than I had been led to believe.
As usual when this circumstance arises, I started to dress, put on my watch etc. When she realized that I was serious and was ending our session prematurely, she changed her mind and said ok I could pay afterwards, mumbling about how she had been screwed before without payment. Yada, yada, yada. The session itself was not too bad but not great either. I also experienced another occasion, as in Bogota, where the girl went to extreme lengths in putting on some antiseptic substance on my privates and herself. This appears to be a new and not appealing trend in Colombia and caused quite a pronounced delay as she searched her bag for this liquid while I was standing there at attention. Also, her promised kisses were of the closed mouth variety so I guess that I need to be more specific with these plaza girls in the future. She also would not do BBBJ. Overall = meh.
We had sex twice in the two hour (shortened) time period. The reason it was shortened was because I could not find my watch and asked her the time. She told me it was 15 minutes later than the actual time, which I discovered later after she had slipped into the bathroom. As she was leaving I mentioned she gave me the wrong time. So I the end, I drew the conclusion that she was not a uni student but probably could be found most nights of the year patrolling around the plaza instead of a MDE classroom studying 'forensics'. For what's it's worth, she had an interesting and beautiful tattoo, not visible with her clothes on, that I will post at some point.
Finally, she did express an interest in accompanying me to Santa Marta. So purely from a financial perspective, I asked what she wanted for two nights (Friday and Saturday) where she would return on Sunday afternoon. Her quoted price was 1 million COP or about $340 USD. For that price, I could have a very good time in Bananas (a local club in SM), indeed.
Just an additional observation and I hope that I am wrong but there appears to be a 'sea change' going on at the Plaza Reloj. Even though this was my first girl from this venue on this trip, I am starting to suspect more of a professional experience will be experienced than not. Basically, many of the girls in the plaza appear to be more professional SW's than I have noticed in the past. I hope that this was just a 'one off' and I am wrong but other members may wish to comment.
Here you go.
Well boys. Landed this evening and after sleeping and setting up phone, realized I probably should have changed out more than just 100 bucks. The rate from camion in Boca grande seems low though and I'm holding off till I can try the old city. There's no shortage of talent though in Boca grande as I've been accosted 3 times so far in the search for dinner. I'm here till Monday so hopefully I'll have something juicy to write. Thanks to everyone that's posted decent ground work.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1787118]Just an additional observation and I hope that I am wrong but there appears to be a 'sea change' going on at the Plaza Reloj. Even though this was my first girl from this venue on this trip, I am starting to suspect more of a professional experience will be experienced than not. Basically, many of the girls in the plaza appear to be more professional SW's than I have noticed in the past. I hope that this was just a 'one off' and I am wrong but other members may wish to comment.[/QUOTE]Street game is a bit different from picking up a pro or semi-pro at places like LDV. You might want to try day-time beach pickups since it seems your Spanish is good enough to chat the girls up a bit.
Your main problem is you're too passive. I could tell you were going to have problems with the girl (from your initial report) because she approached you first instead of the other way around. It's extremely rare for a Colombian, pro or non-pro, to make the first move; even a hard-core Colombian puta prefers that you make the approach.
Street girls are trained by life to ask for the money first (no matter how trustworthy you seem) because they've been burned too many times. You don't want a bad service and she doesn't want to get cheated out of her money.
Best way to handle this is to show her the money, then put something heavy on top of it: a lamp, paperweight, unopened bottle of booze, whatever. She gets the money when the time is up (explain to her).
You actually handled it okay despite the newbie mistakes you made; asking the girl for the time? Yikes! Get a large digital clock, jot the time down when you start, LOL, figure out a routine that works for you and TELL the girl what you're doing. What I do now is download from YouTube music sets that last around 60,90, or 120 minutes and convert the videos to just music files. I then start to play the file on my mini speaker when the session starts and explain to the girl the music goes for such and such time. When it finishes, I'll ask her if she wants to listen to more music with me or check out some cool or funny video clips on my tablet or laptop. Sometimes you can extend a session that way.
When the chica realizes that you know what you're doing, that you're not a sucker, but you're cool to hang out with, she'll relax with you and you can probably get a better session.
Yes, you are correct that it's better to auto reject girls that are aggressive in the plaza, or at a club, etc. , as that is not the norm for Colombian girls and other nationalities too. In fact, I did just that several times in the plaza over the last few days. The same approach applies to rejecting girls who wave at you, say hola, etc. Two blacks girls, one spectacular, came over to the Plaza bench where I was sitting a few nights ago and then started to chat. Besides engaging in some cursory conversations, I was not interested in pursuing matters due to their direct approach, which will happen, BTW, all night long if you sit on the benches long enough. They must talk because one night after rejecting a few girls who came my way, the numbers who approach me appeared to decrease once the word got out. Sometimes, I say, 'yo no quiero perder su tiempo". They quickly scramble after that comment.
With the particular girl, who I invited to my apartment, I allowed myself to be deceived by her innocent looks and story line and disregarded that she came over to me first. In fact, yesterday, I was rehashing how we met and realized that my first error with her was engaging in a conversation at all. She was, as another politician once said about Bill Clinton, "an unusually good liar".
This description was also borne out later when she told me the incorrect time at the same time showing me her watch, which must have been rolled forward by 15 minutes. Once I realized a few minutes later, she had misrepresented the time and I called her on it, I realized that this girls representations about herself were completely false. I knew the time when we started -- What I did not know was the current time. Obviously, this is not the type of girl one would take on a excursion anywhere so it saved me the hassle in that regard. Any chance I would take her to Santa Marta went out the window as soon as I realized she was being dishonest about something as simple as the time. I virtually always have my watch on or next to me except for this one instance. So yeah, it was a mistake to ask her the time but sorry I generally expects a certain base level of honesty even in this situation.
I suppose some might say that she quoted me the $1 million peso price to go with me to Santa Marta for 2 nights because she did not really want to go with me, unless it was at an extortionate rate. However, we were seemingly having a good time when this price discussion was talking place so I think her quote was based on her calculation of what she expected to make in the plaza for that period of time when she would be traveling with me. Also, she probably thought or hoped she could get it from me -- Probably has in the past lol...I told her she could think about her weekend price and let me know later but she already had that number in mind based upon how easily it rolled off her tongue. In short, I think this girl does quite well.
You have an interesting idea to keep track of the time with music though not sure if I have the interest to maintain my music vis a vis the time that closely. To each his own.
As far as paying upfront goes, my money was in another room and I did not feel like getting it. She was either going to believe me or leave. In a way, by then, I didn't care as I had determined, much to my chagrin, that she was a pro. Though not mentioned in my report, she was the first girl I have been with ever (that means anywhere) who actually counted the money (5 50's) in front of me after I gave it to her.
I should note that my overall comments about the plaza were in part generated by the success I have had with fun girls there in prior visits. This may have been simply a bad one but it just seems to me that the part time / semi-pro girls girls have dwindled in numbers.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;1787373]Street game is a bit different from picking up a pro or semi-pro at places like LDV. You might want to at try day-time beach pickups since it seems your Spanish is good enough to chat the girls up a bit.
Your main problem is you're too passive. I could tell you were going to have problems with the girl (from your initial report) because she approached you first instead of the other way around. It's extremely rare for a Colombian, pro or non-pro, to make the first move; even a hard-core Colombian puta prefers that you make the approach.
Street girls are trained by life to ask for the money first (no matter how trustworthy you seem) because they've been burned too many times. You don't want a bad service and she doesn't want to get cheated out of her money.
Best way to handle this is to show her the money, then put something heavy on top of it: a lamp, paperweight, unopened bottle of booze, whatever. She gets the money when the time is up (explain to her).
You actually handled it okay despite the newbie mistakes you made; asking the girl for the time? Yikes! Get a large digital clock, jot the time down when you start, LOL, figure out a routine that works for you and TELL the girl what you're doing. What I do now is download from YouTube music sets that last around 60,90, or 120 minutes and convert the videos to just music files. I then start to play the file on my mini speaker when the session starts and explain to the girl the music goes for such and such time. When it finishes, I'll ask her if she wants to listen to more music with me or check out some cool or funny video clips on my tablet or laptop. Sometimes you can extend a session that way.
When the chica realizes that you know what you're doing, that you're not a sucker, but you're cool to hang out with, she'll relax with you and you can probably get a better session.[/QUOTE]