Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Chicago85;3061791]How old were the women? In my experience I'd say 80-90% of women on Tinder are looking for P4P, although they rarely ask for it openly (usually need some gift or help, or birthday is later that week kkk). If under 25 they were surely 'hoping' to work. If 25-30 they were probably semi-pro. If above 30 (which could still be less than half your age if 60+) then they may have been looking for a different relationship. At the end of the day, they will all want some form of 'sponsorship' or very regular support. That is the case of dating, even in the USA If the woman is much younger than you and more attractive. And I'm personally fine with it. It's much cheaper than marriage![/QUOTE]I hung out and did one trip with one who was 24. Cut her loose because was near impossible to get her out of bed in the morning. Met several 26 to 29 but just not idea matchl. Met many from 30 to 44. No more 38+ as they get way to possive instantly. Currently dating a 33 yo spinner with a great job. My question what dating app do you think regular woman use in Colombia? CC is lame and fake company generated profile to get you to buy a membership. I was meeting 2 to 3 women a week. Just saying there are plenty of normal girls too.

Yes I get lots of P4P hits too. But honestly not that interested. I am debating about getting a sugar baby who isn't meet tourists.

[QUOTE=Degenerate24;3061787]She probably hit the jackpot, a couple of girls have told me that it is their dream to get a US tourist visa.[/QUOTE]That's what it is. She does not speak any English. I have known her for almost 3 years. She told me back then that she had a Visa and sent a screenshot but It never clicked with me. I had so many other women up there I forgot.

She's close to me but at the end of her visit. I have looked at all of videos and pics I took of her. I will definitely have her come and see me. It's pure GFE and I will take her to all of beaches that she wants including the nude ones!

First, thanks to all the posters of this forum who made this trip possible and memorable.

Travel: I used COPA and was lucky to book the flight before the war and higher price due to it.

Lodging: After considering many options I opted to stay at Haven Hotel. I also looked a few Air b&b but opted for Haven due to its location and Most importantly for the security they have in place. I booked a 2 room suite as I was travelling with friend. I booked it as 4 people stay and was not charged extra fee for visitors, but we only brought 1 guest each, daily. Haven also have decent breakfast which was included.

Safety: We stayed in El-Poblado neighborhood and did not feel any issues, there was good police and security presence through out the day.

Food: Not too much to write about, although there is Seafood restaurant that we loved and had excellent food.

Parque Lleras: We sat at on of the bars end of the entrance and had good view. This was our main venue for every night. My friend did not want to go to any clubs or strip clubs. First 3 nights the ratio of Girls vs Guys was 3-1 but around the weekend it gotten worse. I think it was due to Good Friday. On the weekend the security guys were too active, as soon as we tried to talk to girls they will come and ask to keep on moving, WhatsApp exchange worked. Police was there and saw them checking IDs of few girls but they were not bothering tourists. The security had more issues then police though.

Going rate: Almost everyone was asking 400 M almost $100. We did not negotiate too much as well, because in my experience too much of lowballing tend to get not great service. They also asking about $300 for night. 1 girl refused for BBJ, 2 had no issues and 1 asked additional 100 M.

Spa: Went to Angels Spa, there were only 2 girls and both were busy so no luck there.

Escort: I tried contacting "La Celestins" got no response via WhatsApp and Telegraph.

Will I return, yes I would love to, but I will make sure it is not close to Good Friday.

What were you thinking? Probably with the wrong head. Last thing you want is to be investigated by FISERV and get hit with Civil Asset forfiture and possible criminal charges for money laundering or pimping / sex trafficking. This is no joke man. You got lucky.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3061568]For the record, I have known this young lady personally for over eight years. I possess copies of her passport, her mother's passport, and her sister's passport. When I reported the situation to my attorney, I provided all of their names, phone numbers, and passport details. I did not just provide information on the individuals making fraudulent claims; I provided comprehensive details for the young lady and her family members.

​My attorney submitted this information to the institutions holding my accounts in delinquency. Once that data was provided, my accounts were finally unfrozen.

​One thing I can testify to regarding the young lady and her family is that they have not changed their phone numbers. Whether this is due to stupidity or boldness, I cannot say; however, I can confirm their numbers remain active in my WhatsApp contacts. I have their address and all of their personal information. It is possible the Colombian authorities and the banking institutions are waiting for the right moment to actperhaps to seize the house she is currently buildingbut I have provided all the necessary documentation required to identify exactly to whom I was transferring money. PN.[/QUOTE]

Lots of police presence. They just doing there job. Stop you if the see exchanging of numbers, any interaction that seems like soliciting. Carry passport in your phone. Non Colombians they will ask for that. If they ask you what did the girl say to you. Think of anything innocent that doesn't involve soliciting. Calle 10 and Lleras Park packed. Club Glow, and club next to it packed. Gusto was not so packed. Got into there free. Its normally if my math is right 20 mil entrance. Other clubs 10 mil. Saw my gusto girl outside gusto 2 days ago. Man she has not stop texting me. I started thinking damn my dick was that good. Then she revealed she loved the way I ate pussy. I had mix feelings on that one LOL. Saw three distinguished black girls. My gusto was talking to a client but kept eyeing me. One of those girls ask for 750 an hour. Who is spoiling these girls. I hit 2 girls so far. 250 and $3. Art of buy nice cheap gifts. The $3 girl was a surprise 10/10. On the sex. We did it all. Shower together, bareback everything, passionate. Splash in her mouth. 250 was condom, no oral though. Great tits, nice slim body, beautiful tits. Could really ride. Very creative there. Pollo Negro I could live here with you. Laureles is a great neighborhood. Colombia is great. Lleras has really made me think Brazil or Colombia. I just love our Brazilians are so loving towards you. Today might be the day for a threesome or tomorrow. I have not gone crazy trying to get 3 girls a day. I guess after Sunday. Still feeling out the prices. With stocks booming I really have cash to splurge. Hard to get the tightness out of you. So far my conclusion on Colombia 5 stars but for cheapy like me. Lets keep the offers to chicas down a bit.

[QUOTE=Huacho;3061647]I could sure be wrong. I was there in October and thought it said 65.[/QUOTE]Maybe they changed it since then, because last month the sign said 62+.

I stopped by plaza Botero during my Medellin visit but there was so many damn people and sketchy in parts that all I did was walk around the sculptures for a few minutes and walked down Carabobo and back up to conejitas. But we were so intimidated and paranoid we noped out after a while.

Can someone help me "get it" so I can actually know what to do when I go back?

For one, what area does "El Centro" actually refer to, that has never been made clear to me. Is there any specific days and areas to look out for freelancers other than night time? I think I went a Saturday evening and it was so many people it took our Uber 30 minutes just to clear the street in front of conejitas. And lastly is it safe to explore south of Grieff? My Uber went north and drove thro that sketchy ass druggie area so we know not to go north.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3061730]Believe it or not, I didn't have to pay my attorney a single penny. Because we keep him on retainer, resolving this issue was actually free. PN.[/QUOTE]Put me on the "I don't believe" Team.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3061763]​One thing about me is that I've never been interested in "watching someone else's pocket. " I don't care what they have or how much they spend; that's their business. Everyone has a different level of comfort. For example, I paid $15,000 cash for dental implants in Colombia and was thrilled with the work, whereas I was quoted nearly $68,000 for the same labor and cosmetic dentistry in the United States.

​With that in mind, seeing someone spend $2,000 a night partying with people they've never met doesn't strike me as weird at all.[/QUOTE]Spending large amounts in front of strangers or on strangers in Colombia clearly posts that person as a clueless newbie showing off that they have money and to please rob them. Most posts (including yours) state to blend in and keep a low profile and no jewelry. Spending $2000 USD in most places in Colombia would not be easy.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3061903]I stopped by plaza Botero during my Medellin visit but there was so many damn people and sketchy in parts that all I did was walk around the sculptures for a few minutes and walked down Carabobo and back up to conejitas. But we were so intimidated and paranoid we noped out after a while.

Can someone help me "get it" so I can actually know what to do when I go back?

For one, what area does "El Centro" actually refer to, that has never been made clear to me. Is there any specific days and areas to look out for freelancers other than night time? I think I went a Saturday evening and it was so many people it took our Uber 30 minutes just to clear the street in front of conejitas. And lastly is it safe to explore south of Grieff? My Uber went north and drove thro that sketchy ass druggie area so we know not to go north.[/QUOTE]You don't have to include Centro as part of a mongering trip. For me, I took the advice of others and ventured there only during daytime hours. So I took the Metro to the stop next to all the statues where you've already been and checked them out for a bit since it is a tourist attraction. Then with my phone in my pocket and my hand inside it securing it, I took a stroll around all the adjacent streets and saw all the freelancers hanging out. This was definitely the freelancer area of Centro but I had no intention of pulling there. It was just part of another mongering tourist element just to check it out and not more. Yes it was crowded and chaotic but that also means it was fairly safe during the daytime since there were so many regular locals around. From a mongering perspective it's just too darn crowded as too many locals were everywhere near all the freelancers anyway so there's absolutely no privacy to have any chitchats with the girls anyways.

From that area I actually walked away from this busy area back to the main road where the Metro line is and walked about 10 minutes up to New Life casa which is a much better area in my opinion and did my session there. So for me the freelancer part of Centro was more of a touristy thing since I had no intention of pulling there. 95% of the girls there were fat or ugly anyway. As long as I kept my phone and cash secured and walked through that area without stopping, there were no issues.

[QUOTE=LoveItHere69;3061920]Put me on the "I don't believe" Team.

Spending large amounts in front of strangers or on strangers in Colombia clearly posts that person as a clueless newbie showing off that they have money and to please rob them. Most posts (including yours) state to blend in and keep a low profile and no jewelry. Spending $2000 USD in most places in Colombia would not be easy.[/QUOTE]If you never tell anyone you're carrying cash, who would ever know? The day I paid my dentist for my implants, he actually closed his office, called a security guard, and had the guard escort him to the bank to deposit the money I'd given him. Although the entire procedure took approximately eight months, he was paid in full, in cash, all at once.

I do very well in my line of work. As a six-figure earner, I have never been careless with my finances; I've made smart investments that have yielded great returns. Consequently, I avoid going anywhere I shouldn't, and I try to stay away from unfamiliar areas.

​I won't claim that no one has ever taken advantage of me—that would be a lie—but now that I have a better understanding of Medellin, I know which areas to visit and which to avoid. I also agree with your point: I make it a rule never to carry more than 2 million pesos in cash. It's a far cry from eight years ago, when I used to walk around with $15,000 in my pocket. PN.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3061903]I stopped by plaza Botero during my Medellin visit but there was so many damn people and sketchy in parts that all I did was walk around the sculptures for a few minutes and walked down Carabobo and back up to conejitas. But we were so intimidated and paranoid we noped out after a while...Can someone help me "get it" so I can actually know what to do when I go back?
For one, what area does "El Centro" actually refer to, that has never been made clear to me.[/QUOTE]

I used to enjoy meandering around El Centro in the afternoon, more for a little seedy visual titillation than any real hope of finding the oft touted here on ISG "diamond in the rough". Seems "One man's diamond is another man's coal. " Is that a proverb?

For chica sightseeing purposes I would define El Centro into three slightly distinct subareas:

1. Plaza Botero itself along with the Avenida Carabobo pedestrian approach to the Plaze by the church between Calles 51 and 52 (the Plaza well worth visiting for itself: the Botero Statues, the Museo de Antioqui, the Palacio de la Cultura Rafael Uribe). It's mostly populated with tourists and locals seeing the sights, but with a sprinkling of working girls here and there in the plaza or lingering on the short pedestrian street leading to it along side the church. Some ISG posters have also reported success picking up (on a P4P basis) the chica vendors selling drinks and snacks in and about the Plaza.

2. Carrera 53 between Calles 51 and 52, along with the short blocks on Calles 51 and 52 between the Plaza / Avenida Carabobo and Carrera 53, with the action centered on the corner of Carrera 53 and Calle 51. This is by far the seediest stretch of El Centro, quite crowded with vehicles and pedestrians, a fair number of drunks / druggies / beggars, numerous (mostly scuzzy) working girls on the street, in door ways, and seated in the open to the street bars that line the street. As I recall, the heaviest concentration of transvestites loiter on the Calle 51/52 short blocks and around the small church. Thiis subarea is the least comfortable of the three for scouting chicas if you are on the squeamish side.

3. Avenida de Grieff / Raudal Corner: Primarily the far side of Avenida de Grieff across from Plaza Botero as it extends fromthe Hotel Nutibara to the Raudal Corner at Avenida de Grieff and Carrera 54 Ccuta. Here I would also include the side streets between Grieff and Calle 54 (a block each of Carreras 54,53, 52 A and Avenida Carabobo). On these streets you won't find many street walkers, but there are a number of bars wide open to the sidewalk with working girls waiting inside as well as several nightclubs, notably Conejitos Grill, Taberna Hilton, and Grill Occidental but also a number of other more hole-in-the-wall, cellar joints (most all with at least some afternoon activity). I've always found this area (on Avenida de Grieff itself and the side streets between there and Calle 54) perfectly comfortable for walking about during daytime and (unwisely perhaps) even on a few occasions at night. Just a mix of locals going about their business and a fair number of fruit and other street vendors on some blocks, but perhaps not the place for someone who doesn't feel reasonably streetwise.

Despite numerous visits to the El Centro streetwalking scene, I have only sessioned with a street chica there once and that was a disappointment. That said, I have found the rare gem of a keeper at the El Centro night clubs, especially Barra Ejecutiva, but that too seems to have declined in quality over the past year or so.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3061903]I stopped by plaza Botero during my Medellin visit but there was so many damn people and sketchy in parts that all I did was walk around the sculptures for a few minutes and walked down Carabobo and back up to conejitas. But we were so intimidated and paranoid we noped out after a while.[/QUOTE]Paranoid about what? Nobody is paying attention to you and neither do they give a shit about you being there.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3061903]Is there any specific days and areas to look out for freelancers other than night time?[/QUOTE]Anytime is the right time. Although I find it best after dark. After about 1 am you are pretty much wasting your time though. The place (Degrieff) is thinning out by then. Botero goes down to nothing way before that. So I will say from noon to midnight for the entire area.

[QUOTE=Dinosaur9;3061903]And lastly is it safe to explore south of Grieff?[/QUOTE]There is nothing there to explore unless you just like walking around on empty streets.

I have posted this in Cartagena thread as well, thought ill post this here. After reading the reports, I am torn between going to Cartagena or Medellin. Brothels, strip clubs, etc probably are the same in both places but what I want to evaluate from safety perspective is walking down old city in Cartagena and pickup some cuties at night or doing the same in Parque ill. In Medellin. Unfortunately, Medellin has been in news for lots of tourist mishaps. Can the experts here suggest where to go for my upcoming trip?

[QUOTE=NilAdmirari;3062000]I used to enjoy meandering around El Centro in the afternoon, more for a little seedy visual titillation than any real hope of finding the oft touted here on ISG "diamond in the rough". Seems "One man's diamond is another man's coal. " Is that a proverb?

....Despite numerous visits to the El Centro streetwalking scene, I have only sessioned with a street chica there once and that was a disappointment. That said, I have found the rare gem of a keeper at the El Centro night clubs, especially Barra Ejecutiva, but that too seems to have declined in quality over the past year or so.[/QUOTE]My approach and experience has been the same. When I would go, El Centro was just at night to the clubs. There was Barra Ejecutiva, and one next to it that didn't make it through Covid. Just a couple blocks away you have the Grille and a couple others. In years past you would have attractive girls come in from Cali, Pereira, Manizales, etc. For a few weeks to make some $$ but those days seem to have passed, or they just go to Fase II.

Angeles, energy, new life. Thumbs down. Conjeitas, nueva grill, centro thumbs down. Tinder definitely a winner. Girlfriend experience, cum in the mouth without upcharge. Lleras Park definitely a winner even with police and security presence. Paid 400 k plus transport for lleras Park chica. 7 status I think, head game was sick. I gave her a dick beat down and she took it with pleasure. Previous girl was big surprise. She is going to be part 1 of the threesome tonight. Amazing girl friendly skills. Laureles love the neighborhood. Don't hesitate to come to Colombia. Wonderful place. Lleras Park is way better than Sosua.