Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=ChochaMonger;3066805]Picking on deadbeat dads makes for better political theater, especially among female voters. It is also more profitable for the government, as it gets to collect interest payments on child support arrears. On the other hand, it only makes money off Weird Waldos when they are incarcerated and used for prison labor. Also, in some States, men end up on the list simply because they got drunk, relieved their bladder in public, and a woman happened to pass by and record them on a cellphone with their dick out for the cops. Taking a leak in public is not a crime punishable by imprisonment in Colombia. It is an administrative offense punishable by a fine in excess of COP $700,000. Homeless persons without access to public toilets are exempt from punitive fines. So, a person on the sex offender list because he "exposed himself" while taking a leak in public may not be considered an inadmissible alien in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Well, this gets to a part of the central point I'm trying to make. It's a public policy decision about who to target for what, and in which way. There's no problem currently with "picking on" deadbeat dads and not letting them travel for the reasons you note, and more. If public policy was such that we wanted to pick on "Weird Waldos" too and not let them travel, then we could do that too, and their supposed rights be damned. People need to remember that virtually none of our rights are absolute, and they can be regulated (it's a balancing act though since regulations can't be over broad or seen as unreasonably burdensome). It's pretty universally agreed though that in general, criminals should not enjoy the exact same rights and privileges as law-abiding citizens do. Sometimes even if the convict may have already served time for what they did (seems unfair but depending on the crime this can happen). The bottom line is that sex offender travel could be more strictly curtailed if that's what our government wanted to do as a matter of public policy (they would find a way to justify it believe me). But still, the fact of the matter is that travel restrictions [B]are[/B] placed on the citizenry by the government all the time, and for a multitude of different reasons. And for both things that people have done in the past, and for things it's feared they might do in the future. I have a friend who got into some legal trouble in the past, and for now she can't even legally travel outside of her own damn state, let alone outside of the entire country!

Bello is sweet.

Sorta feels like Medellin did 20 years ago.

No doubt it will become very popular.

You can search google for hotels just like anywhere.

Next time I go, will take my cell so I can get fotos.

Yeah be careful with your cellphones around town.

[QUOTE=PSAddict;3063515]A lot of price discussions lately. I guess there is something for everyone. One can pay 50 k in el centro, 80-130 k in the casas, and on dating sites anything between 250 k and open end I guess.

Saying that, would you experienced guys say that 450 k, bareback, for a young stunning 10 is reasonable? That's what I'm paying, problem is I like here a lot and going to see her regularly. Haggling failed and well going to cry later, back home haha.[/QUOTE]Its worth it, yes. Some are getting 500 k+ and won't even respond for less.

A lot of the more photogenic chicas are getting 400+ mas uber.

Haggling usually doesn't end well. They are poor as FK.

It puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance.

Once she gets paid a certain amount anything less will feel like a demotion.

They see it as more sessions more work less pay. We see it as them trying to break the ATM versus appreciate the ATM.

They will float the idea for a weekly rate or monthly, but refuse to be paid after that time period.

Now I think if a chica claims she really likes you, it should be 200 or 300 max.

It is frustrating and gets even more strange when the chica isn't charging in cash yet is working me over for food attention small gifts or trips.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3063492]I second this as I recall one past favourite girl I met at the Mansion told me the same thing that Bello is not a place where foreigners should visit as there is a high risk of kidnappings there.[/QUOTE]There is 3 nice areas in bello. None of the areas where the SWs are is safe at night.

[QUOTE=PSAddict;3063515]A lot of price discussions lately. I guess there is something for everyone. One can pay 50 k in el centro, 80-130 k in the casas, and on dating sites anything between 250 k and open end I guess.

Saying that, would you experienced guys say that 450 k, bareback, for a young stunning 10 is reasonable? That's what I'm paying, problem is I like here a lot and going to see her regularly. Haggling failed and well going to cry later, back home haha.[/QUOTE]Its worth it, yes. Some are getting 500 k+ and won't even respond for less.

A lot of the more photogenic freelance chicas are getting 400+ mas uber.

Haggling usually doesn't end well. They are poor as FK.

It puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance.

Once she gets paid a certain amount anything less will feel like a demotion.

They see it as more sessions more work less pay. We see it as them trying to break the ATM versus appreciate the ATM.

They will float the idea for a weekly rate or monthly, but refuse to be paid after that time period.

Now I think if a chica claims she really likes you, it should be 200 or 300 max.

It is frustrating and gets even more strange when the chica is a no cash "civilian" working me over for food attention small gifts or trips.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3067146]Haggling usually doesn't end well. They are poor as FK. It puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance. Once she gets paid a certain amount anything less will feel like a demotion.[/QUOTE]Are you saying this from experience or just spouting it as a theory? Because I always haggle and it seems to end well for me almost all of the time. Them being poor is a motivation for them to haggle, not make them feel like they are demoted. How would you know that haggling puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance? First you would have to know how the relationship etc is without haggling. Then you would have to do it again by haggling with the very same chick to have a comparison. Even still, you can not attribute a better or worse performance to be the effect of the haggling.

Most of these chicks know where they came from. They know that 100,000 is the status quo. They see the 500,000 foreigner as being an outlier, not an everyday occasion. So there would be a promotion to 500,000, not a demotion to 100,000. Besides that, you have to pan a lot of dirt (100,000) to get a gold nugget (500,000). Don't let them fool you. They have been through more dirt than you can imagine before they starting getting gold nuggets. And when shit starts teetering the other way it is no shock to them because they are already familiar with the dirt and can go right back to the 100,000 that they came from.

If you love fucking working girls bareback like me, you can usually get it for 300 to 600 mil pesos on Facebook or Insta. Depends on the *****.

In El Centro, you can fuck a street working girl for just 100 mil pesos.

Here in Medellíand, almost all the girls let you fuck raw now. Gringos don't want to use condoms anymore, so we all agree to take it bareback for extra cash. Most of us start at 300, but if you want to cum inside, we charge 100 or 200 more.

In the casas like Chica Plus, Angeles Spa or Ella Erotic, you pay the house fee first for the hour, then in the room you negotiate with the girl. We usually ask for another 100 or 200 extra to let you fuck us without rubber.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3067148]There is 3 nice areas in bello. None of the areas where the SWs are is safe at night.

Its worth it, yes. Some are getting 500 k+ and won't even respond for less.

A lot of the more photogenic freelance chicas are getting 400+ mas uber.

Haggling usually doesn't end well. They are poor as FK.

It puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance.

Once she gets paid a certain amount anything less will feel like a demotion.

They see it as more sessions more work less pay. We see it as them trying to break the ATM versus appreciate the ATM..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gilolo;3067190]If you love fucking working girls bareback like me, you can usually get it for 300 to 600 mil pesos on Facebook or Insta. Depends on the *****. In El Centro, you can fuck a street working girl for just 100 mil pesos. Here in Medelland, almost all the girls let you fuck raw now. Gringos don't want to use condoms anymore, so we all agree to take it bareback for extra cash. Most of us start at 300, but if you want to cum inside, we charge 100 or 200 more. In the casas like Chica Plus, Angeles Spa or Ella Erotic, you pay the house fee first for the hour, then in the room you negotiate with the girl. We usually ask for another 100 or 200 extra to let you fuck us without rubber.[/QUOTE]What about anal? I'm planning a big return to Colombia, and from my past experience there anal was extremely difficult to procure from most Colombian girls unless they really "liked" you, which takes more time to build with a girl versus being a "tourist monger" looking for anal on the "first date".

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3067149]Are you saying this from experience or just spouting it as a theory? Because I always haggle and it seems to end well for me almost all of the time. Them being poor is a motivation for them to haggle, not make them feel like they are demoted. How would you know that haggling puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance? First you would have to know how the relationship etc is without haggling. Then you would have to do it again by haggling with the very same chick to have a comparison. Even still, you can not attribute a better or worse performance to be the effect of the haggling.

Most of these chicks know where they came from. They know that 100,000 is the status quo. They see the 500,000 foreigner as being an outlier, not an everyday occasion. So there would be a promotion to 500,000, not a demotion to 100,000. Besides that, you have to pan a lot of dirt (100,000) to get a gold nugget (500,000). Don't let them fool you. They have been through more dirt than you can imagine before they starting getting gold nuggets. And when shit starts teetering the other way it is no shock to them because they are already familiar with the dirt and can go right back to the 100,000 that they came from.[/QUOTE]I'm going to guess that you chat with these women and develop a little chemistry before you "make a deal. " In my experience you generally pay less that way and also get a better experience. If you just contact them on social media and use Google translate to negotiat x services for why amount of money, you likely have to pay the higher prices SuperSaint lists.

Better said - meet women in person, chat with them a bit and see if there's chemistry. If there's no chemistry, the experience could be lousy no matter how much you pay.

[QUOTE=Combo;3067222]I'm going to guess that you chat with these women and develop a little chemistry before you "make a deal. " In my experience you generally pay less that way and also get a better experience. If you just contact them on social media and use Google translate to negotiat x services for why amount of money, you likely have to pay the higher prices SuperSaint lists.

Better said - meet women in person, chat with them a bit and see if there's chemistry. If there's no chemistry, the experience could be lousy no matter how much you pay.[/QUOTE]No. I am a shit or get off the pot kind of guy. To me hookers are like McDonald's. I do not have to go over the menu 10 times and ask a bunch of questions before I pick a value meal. Most of the time I am walking up to a hooker (or approaching them online) and saying how much? Let's go. Never any problems. They know what they are there for. You can chat a bit and see if there is chemistry, but that does not mean shit. I am sure everyone has had shitty coworkers and thought to themselves or out loud amongst other coworkers, "How the hell did they get this job?" Everyone knows an interview process is a bullshit session. You say what you need to say in order to get the job. A recent poster in the Sosua section has found that out thd hard way. Hookers will say anything or act in a favorable way to get you to take them and that is in no way a determinant of performance.

I would like to know of the people who use the interview method, how many chicks are they turning away out of say every 10. Because if I am taking the time to meet up with a chick and buy coffee and shit, that is already time and money that I could have spent fucking. Not like I am paying these chicks hundreds of dollars. When I contact a hooker, I am ready to fuck. It is not to hold an interview session. Is there anyone who does not do interviews and gets a bad apple and is like, if only I had interviewed her first, I could have avoided this? I seriously doubt it.

Chicks already know how much money they are willing to take. You are not smooth talking them down by so-called chemistry building. Just like if you are trying to sell a car. You want to get the maximum that you can out of the deal, but you already know you will part with it if an offer of x amount comes in and not part with it if someone is only offering why amount.

Recently, in a social media group that I am apart of, the host asked if guys see everyday that divorces are taking place that are leaving other males with half or less of their shit, why are they so willing to get married? I said because guys are more hopeless romantics than women. Only thing this vetting is doing is making you think you know how to choose a good one. If a mf dated a chick for months or even years before getting married and he never thought she would take half of his shit, then you talking to a prostitute for 5 minutes before fucking her is not determining anything. Same when I got a chick at Conejitas that blew my socks off and squirted all over like a madwoman; my buddy went back 2 weeks later and got the same chick (he was with me when I got her) and said she was awful. It is all random and our "rituals" have nothing to do with it.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3067149]Are you saying this from experience or just spouting it as a theory? Because I always haggle and it seems to end well for me almost all of the time. Them being poor is a motivation for them to haggle, not make them feel like they are demoted. How would you know that haggling puts a strain on the relationship and affects attitude and performance? First you would have to know how the relationship etc is without haggling. Then you would have to do it again by haggling with the very same chick to have a comparison. Even still, you can not attribute a better or worse performance to be the effect of the haggling.

Most of these chicks know where they came from. They know that 100,000 is the status quo. They see the 500,000 foreigner as being an outlier, not an everyday occasion. So there would be a promotion to 500,000, not a demotion to 100,000. Besides that, you have to pan a lot of dirt (100,000) to get a gold nugget (500,000). Don't let them fool you. They have been through more dirt than you can imagine before they starting getting gold nuggets. And when shit starts teetering the other way it is no shock to them because they are already familiar with the dirt and can go right back to the 100,000 that they came from.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying I would give 500.000, but to deny that they get it would just be dishonesty.

100 mil is not status quo for upper end freelancers.

They where getting 150 mil in 2015. Much of the time, money wasn't even brought up.

Sure many might drop a quick 50 or 100 mil during initial interaction.

I'm referring to offering less than their established rock bottom.

It turns into more cancelations, rushed time, or just half hearted effort. This is nothing new.

You are correct there are exceptions to every rule.

They also accept food, drinks, gym clothes, tennis shoes, necklaces, bracelets.

At least I'm not one of these clowns claiming its all free.

[QUOTE=Gilolo;3067190]If you love fucking working girls bareback like me, you can usually get it for 300 to 600 mil pesos on Facebook or Insta. Depends on the *****.

In El Centro, you can fuck a street working girl for just 100 mil pesos.

Here in Medelland, almost all the girls let you fuck raw now. Gringos don't want to use condoms anymore, so we all agree to take it bareback for extra cash. Most of us start at 300, but if you want to cum inside, we charge 100 or 200 more.

In the casas like Chica Plus, Angeles Spa or Ella Erotic, you pay the house fee first for the hour, then in the room you negotiate with the girl. We usually ask for another 100 or 200 extra to let you fuck us without rubber.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new. Anything to keep a high value client.

I figured ID catch some slack for saying 450.000 is acceptable.

For a 1 week tourists its not a bad deal for the star of his trip.

Many of them live far, 50 mil uber one way. 350 mas uber = 450 domi is common.

I don't like it but I'm not in denial.

For guys spending months or years here that price is not necessary.

I guess there are some resident high rollers who don't care.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3067261]This is nothing new. Anything to keep a high value client. I figured ID catch some slack for saying 450.000 is acceptable. For a 1 week tourists its not a bad deal for the star of his trip. Many of them live far, 50 mil uber one way. 350 mas uber = 450 domi is common. I don't like it but I'm not in denial. For guys spending months or years here that price is not necessary. I guess there are some resident high rollers who don't care.[/QUOTE]I just looked on XE, and $450,000 Colombian pesos was valued at $122.40 American dollars. And that's supposed to be "high rolling"? [B]Hahahaha[/B]! People have very different standards and use wildly different definitions for things. Or, at least their wealth and the amount of money in their bank accounts varies significantly (of course). For me, high rolling would be paying a tute 700 euros for 1 1/2 hours of limited, "vanilla" sex, which is what a girl here in Lisbon, Portugal quoted me the other night (uh no I did not go with her). In any event, rarely ever is it worth it to get into debates about how much money is appropriate to spend on a tute in any given country. At the end of the day, each man is his own "sovereign" monger and decides for himself what is appropriate. And his decision is final!

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3067252] Most of the time I am walking up to a hooker (or approaching them online) and saying how much? Let's go. Never any problems.

I would like to know of the people who use the interview method, how many chicks are they turning away out of say every 10. Because if I am taking the time to meet up with a chick and buy coffee and shit, that is already time and money that I could have spent fucking. Not like I am paying these chicks hundreds of dollars. When I contact a hooker, I am ready to fuck. It is not to hold an interview session. Is there anyone who does not do interviews and gets a bad apple and is like, if only I had interviewed her first, I could have avoided this? I seriously doubt it.[/QUOTE]So funny you explain that doing interviews or having a coffee with the girls does not guarantee good service. Yet you just grab and go and you "Never any problems." Keep the dream alive in your head. No need to share.

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3067256]100 mil is not status quo for upper end freelancers.[/QUOTE]All I am saying is that upper end freelancers were not always upper end. We have seen it time and time again in these reports. A guy is fucking a chick for 100,000. He has not seen her in quite awhile Next time he runs into her, she is saying she gets 500,000 now. How many guys here would pay 500,000 for the same chick they used to fuck for 100,000? Like Jamie Foxx said in reference to Jennifer Lopez, "J-Lo? I remember when you were Hey Ho. "

[QUOTE=SuperSaint;3067261]Many of them live far, 50 mil uber one way. 350 mas uber = 450 domi is common.
[/QUOTE]50 mil Uber? That's not reality. You're getting tricked for 10-15 mil each way depending on your respective locations.