Medellin Reports

Doesn't sound too bad. 12 hours for under $300 usd?

Would be better if she was younger and allowed more action but seems like a decent price.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3071470]Most of these pay-for-play chicas are already thinking time limits, usually defaulting to 1 hour. Time limits are of course a necessity in the casas, but chicas from the street and online dating platforms (if they're looking for "beneficios mutuos" or "diversion" or "nada serio", etc.) also operate on time for money. Like the chica in my report, these are escorts we're talking about most of the time here. Hoes.

What they have in mind isn't the semi-pro unicorn mindset of "yeah, I'll come over and chill and do whatever with you for as long as we want, no rules". What they're offering is "I'm coming over to fuck you for X amount of time maximum and then I'm out". From a few unfortunate encounters I have had, and from many reports I have seen other guys post on these forums in various countries over the years, if you don't set a clear agreement on the amount of time you're paying for, then many of these women will try to head out the door as soon as you cum. If you aren't clear about what you want, how long you want it for, and how much you will pay for it, then the chicas can take advantage of that..[/QUOTE]I have been to Medellin dozens of time in the last 3 years. After the first 3 trips I stopped pulling from Parque Lleras. You're correct everyone in the park is on a "timer" as they have been conditioned to work by the hour. That's not to say that you can't have a good experience there. However, it's not the kind that I want.

I have better results on Tinder because so many girls are on there compared to Seeking. Seeking was great when I got there 3 years ago but now you have girls asking for 1 K USA dollars for 2 hours and everything covered. I have a few girls left from Seeking on my roster otherwise I stay away from there.

It's easy to screen Tinder girls you ask for their number. If they include their country code you know they have some discussions with foreigners. I get them to state how much they want. If they talk about dollars instead of pesos that is not a good sign.

I have about 8 to 10 girls that I rotate and it's pure GFE and MSOG and no time limits. I don't want toda la noche. It's not necessary but I don't like to feel that someone wants to get out fast. I get a nice Airbnb that has a separate bathroom with a shower and fragrant soap.

I pay between 200-400 k pesos not including Uber both ways that I always pay. There are a few Tinder girls with Instagram that I pay more. I love Tinder.

[QUOTE=Priint;3071923]Incredible report! I had a very similar and totally unexpected experience when I traveled to Africa recently, so I understand exactly how amazing it must have felt. This gives me hope that I can find someone good during my September trip.
[/QUOTE]That sounds awesome, I would love to read that report if you wrote one. If not, then you should! I've never been to Africa, but I've been thinking more and more lately about traveling there in the near future if I can.

[QUOTE=Appalachian;3071924]Doesn't sound too bad. 12 hours for under $300 usd?

Would be better if she was younger and allowed more action but seems like a decent price.[/QUOTE]Maybe a decent price in New York or London, but that is insane in Colombia.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3071988]Maybe a decent price in New York or London, but that is insane in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Let him Live. Sure an experienced Monger or expat can say that's a ton of money but guys want fake situationships.

In one way going to Nairobi would be an eye opening experience in the sense that the LT ST shit doesn't exist you pay a maybe 40 or so bucks and she leaves when you want her to leave. If fact I monger may realize that she's winning because she's claiming you and soon you'll be sending money.

But fuck that maybe I'm an old jaded monger. All I'll say is there's the Sun Tzu saying of knowing yourself and knowing the enemy but that might go over guys heads.

The only thing I'll say is that Women even hoes are Human and if you're looking for more than a roll in the hay and a nut it depends on whether a woman feels like it at the time or not.

Asking for babysitting fees and platonic hang out time and going some place she's been to 500 times before or has no desire to go to because a bored and lonely monger wants to go is worth whatever she can negotiate. Fair exchange is never a robbery, Shit to me hanging around some foreign broad that I don't know would be work to me too. I'm retired and I still have more important things to do. I´m sure any women hoe or not has shit to do too.

Hope this Helps.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3071988]Maybe a decent price in New York or London, but that is insane in Colombia.[/QUOTE]You got to be kidding me right? These "softcore hoors" in places like New York and London are commanding more than twice that amount. For $300 bucks we're talking third third tier cities and, if you get lucky, maybe a second tier town from time to time.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3071988]Maybe a decent price in New York or London, but that is insane in Colombia.[/QUOTE]If he can bone her 6+ times in that period and she's really hot, it might be a decent price. Otherwise he's just paying her to pass the time with him. Or as Triple says "babysit" him. Unless he's a dashing young stud that can show her a really interesting time. In which case he wouldn't be paying anyway.

Price notwithstanding, there's also a risk that he develops feelings for her and it's never a good idea to develop feelings for a hooker regardless of what country she's in.

She "gave up" on Colombians years ago because foreigners have a lot more money. And at her age, lots of Colombians wouldn't be interested anyway. The girls always tell visiting foreigners that they prefer them over the Colombian men. They learn that trick early in the game. Tell the customer what he wants to hear.

It sounds like she's been doing the prepago thing for awhile. Very smooth and developed that polished genuine feeling through experience.

[QUOTE=Combo;3072043]If he can bone her 6+ times in that period and she's really hot, it might be a decent price. Otherwise he's just paying her to pass the time with him. Or as Triple says "babysit him. ".

Price notwithstanding, the risk is that he develops feelings for her and it's never a good idea to develop feelings for a hooker regardless of what country she's in.

She's likely been doing the a prepago thing for awhile. Very smooth and developed that polished genuineness through experience.[/QUOTE]At the end of the day he's getting what he paid for. It is what it is again a jaded monger could assume a chick claiming to want some kind of quasi relationship is setting him up to catch feelings but what do I know maybe this chick actually ¨Loves ¨ Him. I write novels but damn sounds like a nose wide open without the ability to smell plays being ran.

Either way I've been here long enough to know that sometimes you have to touch the hot stove.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

Mr. Flip Flop did an excellent live today about this very subject. Again to an expat the Reddest of the Red Flags is some local claiming to not deal with her countrymen. Especially a single mother. If an american lady said Ï'm not dealing with any American Men¨even if she was a blue haired feminist lesbian that would sound weird but maybe just maybe our boy found ¨The One¨ Maybe. One thing is for certain she may have found ¨the one¨ for her.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

I always find it amazing how people criticize areas of a city, like Centro, and confidently proclaim that all the girls working there are "crackheads" or "low quality. " Well, the biggest adult film star coming out of Colombia right now, Helen Star, actually got her start right there in Centro. She spent over three years there doing dates for 30,000 to 50,000 pesos. But who am I to complain about that? I guess she's just one diamond out of many. PN!

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072046]I always find it amazing how people criticize areas of a city, like Centro, and confidently proclaim that all the girls working there are "crackheads" or "low quality. " Well, the biggest adult film star coming out of Colombia right now, Helen Star, actually got her start right there in Centro. She spent over three years there doing dates for 30,000 to 50,000 pesos. But who am I to complain about that? I guess she's just one diamond out of many. PN![/QUOTE]I actually prefer to hang out in El Centro than Parque Lleras. Yes, there are unattractive women there but you see better in broad daylight and the girls dress sexier. You can find some super hot unicorns there.

Yes, they don't all look like crack hoes. When I went to Centro last year to monger, I found myself a diamond (at twice the normal reported price) and we had a great time. So good that I followed up with an outcall with her the next day. (the "contratada" MILF). But even she told me that I was trusting her too much and letting my guard down too much around her, because other chicas could rob me if I wasn't keeping an eye on them. Or worse. "Girls around here will slit your throat!" That's probably an exaggeration, but it's known to be a sketchy and dangerous area. And it's also known to be a place where you can find hoes who are the cheapest of the cheap. For that, I recommend Centro for mongering, if you have the patience to find yourself a diamond, or if the average chicas around there fit within your personal standards.

[QUOTE=Appalachian;3071924]Doesn't sound too bad. 12 hours for under $300 usd?
Would be better if she was younger and allowed more action but seems like a decent price.[/QUOTE]I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.

As some of the other guys on here have pointed out recently and in the past, it's possible to get much cheaper than that in Colombia, and I believe them. It would be awesome if some of them would write very clear and detailed guides on exactly how to do that, like the awesome Dating Colombianas thread that Routard posted on this forum years ago. That could actually be helpful to other guys on here, and give more of us opportunities to reward the chicas who charge less.

It's also possible to get much more expensive than that in Colombia, like how KeviKev68 pointed out there are girls on Seeking charging $1,000 US for 2 hours. Now THAT is "insane".

For me, the issue with paying 1 million or 750 k isn't that I see those rates as overpriced. It's just that I simply can't afford to pay that much to someone who I would want to see more than just a couple of times per month. I don't come from money. I don't have a passive income or investments or a retirement fund to live off of. I'm just a guy who came from working class families, who is just trying to get by in the world, and yet somehow still having the time of my life.

UPDATE: I talked with my chica from the report on Whatsapp right before I left for this current Medellin trip, and told her that I wanted to negotiate an arrangement where we could see each other more times for a better price. I offered that we see each other 5 times during these next 10 days, and at the end I would give her 2 million pesos, guaranteed. She balked at that and said my offer wasn't fair. I asked her what she thought a fairer deal would be, and she said 3 million pesos. So, 600 k per night, and I accepted. We had an amazing night together last night: nothing fancy, just a casual dinner at my favorite taco spot, then passionate, affectionate sex, and arrunchando until the sun came up.

Have fun and stay safe!

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3072156]I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.[/QUOTE]​One of the most important factors when looking for dates in Medellin is the amount of time you plan to spend there and the number of women you actually connect with. The more women you meet and maintain friendships with, the more opportunities you will have for dates. Consequently, the more date opportunities you have, the better rates you are usually going to get.

​However, if you are looking for long-term companionship, it is a completely different story. If you need someone around consistently because you enjoy her conversation—and she understands that—she will likely charge you for the dedicated time you are spending together rather than a standard date. Because of this, you are always going to pay a higher rate compared to someone living in Medellin who has three or four hundred different options available to them. PN.

Here is another scenario that can be utilized for finding women while living in Colombia. I live in a neighborhood where there are a lot of young Venezuelan women. Many of them see me going to the grocery store every week with my girlfriend, and we bring back a taxi full of groceries at least once a week. Therefore, they know that food is coming into our house. Because they see the large amount of food arriving and notice me with my girlfriend at least once a week, they know there is some kind of stable income in our home.

​There are at least five 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls living in my neighborhood who watch me intently whenever I go across the street to the meat store or when I go shopping. Because of this, those young ladies are very excited about going on a date with me—especially if I can swing it and get away from my girlfriend for a few minutes. They never ask for more than 50,000 to 100,000 pesos per date, and I am in and out without ever being noticed.

​Consequently, I do not actually have to go to different areas of Medellin or Parque Lleras to find women. There are women right next door who are willing to date me, especially if it makes them 100,000 pesos for a 30-minute to one-hour session. PN!