Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3072156]I agree, I think that's a decent price, in the context of a Tinder chica in Medellin offering that much time. Since the going rate for pros servicing sex tourists in Medellin is around 400 k for 1 hour. She's the first in Medellin that I have done an all-night or all-day escort type deal with, but I have been propositioned that in the past from some other chicas, and prices like 1 million pesos, $200 US, etc, are what they are looking for. Some of the chicas, like her, exclusively offer toda-la-noche, since they want one big cita rather than going out to try to fuck as many different guys as they can in one night.

Even back in 2023 when I first started mongering, in Cartagena the going rate for toda-la-noche with pros in Centro Historico was around 1 million pesos. To me, Cartagena seems on par with Medellin in terms of hoe prices. And toda-la-noche can mean different things to different chicas: sometimes it's 12 hours, or 8, or 6. Sometimes, in the worst cases, they really only mean 3 hours. So, in context, I think 1 million for 12 hours is a very fair deal. And 750 k even better.

As some of the other guys on here have pointed out recently and in the past, it's possible to get much cheaper than that in Colombia, and I believe them. It would be awesome if some of them would write very clear and detailed guides on exactly how to do that, like the awesome Dating Colombianas thread that Routard posted on this forum years ago. That could actually be helpful to other guys on here, and give more of us opportunities to reward the chicas who charge less.

It's also possible to get much more expensive than that in Colombia, like how KeviKev68 pointed out there are girls on Seeking charging $1,000 US for 2 hours. Now THAT is "insane".

For me, the issue with paying 1 million or 750 k isn't that I see those rates as overpriced. It's just that I simply can't afford to pay that much to someone who I would want to see more than just a couple of times per month. I don't come from money. I don't have a passive income or investments or a retirement fund to live off of. I'm just a guy who came from working class families, who is just trying to get by in the world, and yet somehow still having the time of my life.

UPDATE: I talked with my chica from the report on Whatsapp right before I left for this current Medellin trip, and told her that I wanted to negotiate an arrangement where we could see each other more times for a better price. I offered that we see each other 5 times during these next 10 days, and at the end I would give her 2 million pesos, guaranteed. She balked at that and said my offer wasn't fair. I asked her what she thought a fairer deal would be, and she said 3 million pesos. So, 600 k per night, and I accepted. We had an amazing night together last night: nothing fancy, just a casual dinner at my favorite taco spot, then passionate, affectionate sex, and arrunchando until the sun came up.

Have fun and stay safe![/QUOTE]

First off your Chica really??? How many times can you guarantee that you'll come down flight prices be damned? Be honest with yourself.

I'd say don't bother trying to have a relationship or have a relationship and activate that western Union account. Shit tell her you´ll give her 2 million every other month whether you're there or not. Put the shit in a WA text say exactly what you want sexually.

Again I would just overnight her a couple of nights and look for other opportunities. If you pay per nut you'll come out way cheaper in the long run.

I live here and I currently don't have an actual GF I have a potential but she wants me to put 100 K into some kind of account so looks like she will be put into the pay per nut category.

I got nothing for you, getting a legit girlfriend is hard because she doesn't trust you and you don't know her culture.

But what do I know I've only been here for over 5 years. Again I would advise against this but if you were going to proceed I would give her some guaranteed money.

She has all the leverage in this situation. She saw you coming miles away. Your best bet if to find out what she likes to do and do that. Maybe you can get her a reloadable wise card Its cheaper than Western Union

Good Luck.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=TripleDarknes;3072194]First off your Chica really??? How many times can you guarantee that you'll come down flight prices be damned? Be honest with yourself.
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I got nothing for you, getting a legit girlfriend is hard because she doesn't trust you and you don't know her culture. [/QUOTE]Don't worry, LOL. By saying "my chica" I was simply conveying that I was referring to the girl from my report the other night. I didn't mean that I think she's my girlfriend or belongs to me.

She and I have talked about how we feel, and we agreed to keep our situation "nothing serious", at least for now. We're both guarded. I don't want to fall in love, because I'm paying her. And she doesn't want to fall in love, because I am just passing through from time to time.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072173]
There are at least five 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls living in my neighborhood who watch me intently whenever I go across the street to the meat store or when I go shopping. Because of this, those young ladies are very excited about going on a date with meespecially if I can swing it and get away from my girlfriend for a few minutes. They never ask for more than 50,000 to 100,000 pesos per date, and I am in and out without ever being noticed.

Consequently, I do not actually have to go to different areas of Medellin or Parque Lleras to find women. There are women right next door who are willing to date me, especially if it makes them 100,000 pesos for a 30-minute to one-hour session.[/QUOTE]Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3072202]Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.[/QUOTE]As soon as they see me at the meat market by myself, they find any excuse to buy some small item just to get a look at me and strike up a casual conversation. Once the ice is broken, I let them know that I'd like to stop by and see them if they are available, asking what their rate is for a short time. They usually make me an offer that is so reasonable I end up doubling it.

​They are always the ones who initiate this, simply from noticing me walking back and forth to the meat market and grocery store every week. They know there is steady income coming into my home. When you live in these kinds of neighborhoods, you always have to keep your guard up. Even when you aren't watching them, they are paying attention to everything happening around them—especially the unemployed locals who have nothing to do all day but sit around and look for ways to make money. PN.

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3072202]Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.[/QUOTE]My brother in Christ the simplest way is to move down here. I don't know how much you travel but pick a place that resonates with you and go there. At this point I'm not sure if you're trolling.

I think I went over this in the Santo Domingo Board. I'll say getting semipros is much easier there than in Meddy. Go back and read my posts about semi pro hunting in Santo Domingo.

Assuming you're serious I'd say try to monger in the states where you speak the language fluently and know the culture. If you go to regular strip clubs and are able to pull girls out then you'll be ready for semi pros abroad. It's all about developing the Monger eye. Right before you develop the Monger eye most girls develop the trick eye.

An example of the Trick eye is I was walking in Spanish Avenue in Punta Cana and I saw a girl in a restaurant who I assumed worked there. I was literally on the way to the Banco Popular ATM and she came out of the restaurant asked me standard questions Keep in mind I had no plans to fuck her she just looked cute. Anyway we talked and we got down to negotiations. She left 2 hours later with 2500 pesos. She had the Trick eye she knew I was a monger so she was down to make a deal with her first trick of the day.

You said you started mongering internationally in 2023. You need to develop the trick smell, This shit is a lifestyle.

Again even asking what do you say to a woman shows you have much much much to learn because you don't really have to ask a woman anything she'll ask you in a way.

However many Mongers you think there are understand there's way way way more hoes than Mongers.

I'll put it to you like this; if you see a woman anywhere in the world you could just ask her to fuck. Either she'll slap the shit out of you or counter with a money ask. I keep saying that Hoes are Human beings. Women get horny too; the difference is they want money and things too so if you discreetly ask a woman who is not a prostitute to fuck and either wait for a money ask or indicate that you'd be willing to part with a reasonable amount she will say yes. If you offer her way more than a reasonable amount that's not even fair if she believes you'll give it to her she'll take t.

That's all I got.

Hope this Helps.

Trip.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072162]​One of the most important factors when looking for dates in Medellin is the amount of time you plan to spend there and the number of women you actually connect with. The more women you meet and maintain friendships with, the more opportunities you will have for dates. Consequently, the more date opportunities you have, the better rates you are usually going to get.[/QUOTE]So what you are saying is that it is a numbers game like pretty much anything else.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072162]​However, if you are looking for long-term companionship, it is a completely different story. If you need someone around consistently because you enjoy her conversationand she understands thatshe will likely charge you for the dedicated time you are spending together rather than a standard date. Because of this, you are always going to pay a higher rate compared to someone living in Medellin who has three or four hundred different options available to them. PN.[/QUOTE]Why wouldn't a person just get a normal girlfriend instead of a hooker if that is what they are after.

We are either living in two different versions of Medellin, Colombia, or we're living in two different realities. I have been dating a Venezuelan girl for the last seven years, and over that time, I have met thousands of other Venezuelans.

​When Venezuelans arrive in Colombia, especially if they are over the age of 18, there isn't much they can actually do to earn an income. They can work in restaurants, do domestic work, attempt to go back to college to start from scratch, or work by going on dates. In fact, 99% of the Venezuelan women I have encountered do dates to survive. Many of the Colombian homeowners who rent rooms to Venezuelans are brutal when it comes to rent; they expect their money exactly when it's due, and they have no qualms about throwing someone out if they aren't paid. They will literally throw these Venezuelans out onto the street.

​Because of that reality, most Venezuelan girls are going to do whatever they have to do to survive and keep a roof over their heads. How can someone demand a premium for a date when they are under the gun, knowing they need cash right now to avoid homelessness? Because they are in such dire straits, many Venezuelan girls not only will take less money for a date, they have to. Most of their families are back in Venezuela, meaning they have no support system here unless they moved with sisters or cousins into a house full of women. Therefore, it is just common knowledge that Venezuelan girls will go on dates for a lot less than what Colombian girls might charge.

​So, when I see guys on this board posting about girls wanting 750,000 pesos or more for a date, that is a price you are simply choosing to pay. The city of Medellin is full of girls who will take a fraction of that amount, and I see it every day because I live here. It all comes down to how much time you have to invest and exactly what you are looking for. Clearly, some of you are just looking for a pig with lipstick on that you can dress up and call Sally—but at the end of the day, everyone on this board will still know she's a pig. PN!

You are overcomplicating. This is the script (translated from Spanish): Good morning / afternoon / evening, how are you? My name is (whatever), what's your name? Do you live in the neighborhood? I'm looking for a good greengrocer nearby. (Whatever her answer is you respond with): Thank you (her name), can I have your phone number to call you sometime?

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3072202]Sounds like the 18- to 20-year-old Afro-Venezuelan girls see you as the meat store.

But seriously, this is great info, thank you. And your previous post as well.

I have some questions: how do you talk to girls like these to proposition them for "dates", the first time? Do you walk over to them and start chatting them up when your girlfriend isn't around? Or do they come over to you with some excuse to talk when they see that you are by yourself? What do you say to them? I'm interested to know how to bring up pay-for-play in conversations with women who aren't actively advertising that they are selling sex.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;3072260]So what you are saying is that it is a numbers game like pretty much anything else.

Why wouldn't a person just get a normal girlfriend instead of a hooker if that is what they are after.[/QUOTE]Great question. My speculation is that he doesn't want to invest the time it requires to have a normal girlfriend. He just wants to have sex with a pretty woman. PN!

I speak from experience. I currently live in a house with six Venezuelan women between the ages of 18 and 22, each of whom has a boyfriend. Two other women in their early 40's also live in the house. All six of the younger women work in El Poblado, specifically around Parque Lleras.

​Sometimes they come home with large quantities of money, but because they each take care of their boyfriends and children, they burn through it like water. Sometimes they have millions and millions of pesos, but it disappears instantly. Still, as long as the rent and utilities are paid, who am I to criticize what they do with their silver? If someone wants to give them 400,000 pesos for an hour of sex, that's on them.

​I'm just telling you that because I live with a group of women who work in that specific area, I know the ins and outs of how they acquire and spend their money. Seeing what they do with it, there is no way I would ever give them that much. In fact, I wouldn't even give any of them 100,000 pesos—possibly because I know them personally, and my girlfriend is always watching everything they do! PN!

I think it's easy to underestimate the time commitment maintaining a girlfriend relationship requires. Back when I lived in the first world I never thought about it much because it was standard procedure for everybody in my social circle. In Colombia it's really noticeable how much of my time is consumed by my main girl. There are days when I just want to do a quick wham bam and not deal with all the rest. The difference is here I have that option and in my former life it wasn't something I considered real. Everything has its pluses and minuses. I enjoy the advantage of having someone I enjoy spending time with out of bed and I also enjoy being able to go full punter when I choose.

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072274]Great question. My speculation is that he doesn't want to invest the time it requires to have a normal girlfriend. He just wants to have sex with a pretty woman. PN![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PolloNegro;3072238]As soon as they see me at the meat market by myself, they find any excuse to buy some small item just to get a look at me and strike up a casual conversation. Once the ice is broken, I let them know that I'd like to stop by and see them if they are available, asking what their rate is for a short time. They usually make me an offer that is so reasonable I end up doubling it. They are always the ones who initiate this, simply from noticing me walking back and forth to the meat market and grocery store every week. [/QUOTE]Thank you very much. This is the kind of clear, actionable advice and reporting that I am looking for. I seem to have difficulty reading between the lines on this forum sometimes, which is why I keep asking for things to be explicitly spelled out in the actual lines.

And before some of you think that I'm not listening or not learning, I assure you that I am. I started posting reports of some of my own experiences on this forum a few years ago. And for the past 9 months or so I have been more active with posting and asking for advice in various cities. And thanks to the reports and tips from some of the guys on here, I have learned about places to go, what to look for, what to look out for, how to think, how to negotiate more aggressively, and how to handle interactions better. As a result, I am having great sexual experiences with prostitutes for half the price or twice the service as the average sex tourist is getting. And on a forum where I see lots of complaining from different guys about receiving bad services or being overcharged, at least 80% of my experiences with the pros I have been seeing have ranged from good to amazing. So, thank you to all of you who have been contributing to this forum and helping me learn.

I know that some of you are getting even cheaper prices and arguably better service than I am, sometimes much, much cheaper. And I want to learn how, which is why I keep asking these kinds of questions and trying to understand. Especially when it comes to semi-pros, which is a strange gray area to me. It's interesting to me that on a forum dedicated to prostitution, the conventional wisdom among many of the guys who have been doing this for a decade or more, is that they no longer ever want to deal with full-on prostitutes. But I'm understanding why, and it makes sense. Please be patient with me and other guys on here who aren't seasoned veterans yet, and who take a little longer to learn the tricks and adapt our mindsets.

On the other hand, I often see a lot of comparing apples to oranges on this forum. And sometimes those comparisons are delivered in ways that come off as very judgmental, condescending, and grumpy. We all have our individual preferences of what we like and what kind of experiences we are looking for, and not everyone is always clear about exactly what they're getting for the prices they're paying. For some guys, it seems that all they care about is getting their rocks off inside someone, so why pay for 2 hours or 12 hours when they can get what they want in 30 minutes or less for bottom prices. Time spent in the encounters and personal connections don't seem to matter to them, and to some, even the woman's physical appearance doesn't seem to matter to them that much. And that's cool, there's something for everybody. But it's not the same thing as those who want longer, more intimate experiences when they travel, and who are not thinking of things in terms of just price-per-nut. Being more detailed and clearer when we talk about these things, and understanding that different guys want different things, can help all of us make more honest comparisons and provide more useful information for others.

So yeah, that's my Ted Talk.

Medellin has turned into one of the most disagreeable sex destinations.

The weather is horrible.

All the fine chicas have lert. What is left you don't see on the street. And if you don't know where to go you might as well have gone to panama or Costa Rica.

Just this evening, I was looking out over calle de buen mesa hahahaha and there were only men visible.

And now the millionaires have arrived and opened discos on karrera 34 competing with each other and all the others.

Well this weekend they all closed early. Provenza is now too dangerous to walk. Even the thieves are scared.

For you rich dudes in your 6+ dollar figure cars, you are lookin good. Congratulations.

But be careful. Some of you have already had your cars stolen and I hear it happened at gunpoint. It was in the news.

Anyway the point is, no rich people, gringo or non gringo, with half an ounce of sense, ever finds themselves on the street anymore in Colombia. Just too dangerous. Just don't do it. Bad people are waiting to do bad things from the shadows.

And as far as gringos opening discos and such in Colombia, the general consensus is Colombians will let you spend all your money how you want but won't ever spend one peso in any of your places. And there simply are not enough gringos to support such silly dreams as opening a disco in Colombia.

Who ever got you dudes involved with this idea?

And it has pissed off a lot of locals.

So in a few months, all will return to quiet, the hangers ONS will have conceded defeat and a new group of dreaming gringos will throw in the towel on their 6+ dollar figure "investments".

If any of you need a place to park your car after you leave, give me a buzz.

All because of a little cheap pussy, smoke and blow.

Time to party.

Has anyone spend all day at a casa trying out all the girls there?

I'm contemplating it when I go back. Hitting up my favorite spots and sampling all the girls available. My concern is the service tapering off from them not taking it seriously the further I get along as they see me running through all their friends.

I think you might see it differently if you were to look beyond Provenza. Fair point however that the UV level is very high when it isn't raining.

[QUOTE=StudPlayer;3072328]Medellin has turned into one of the most disagreeable sex destinations.

The weather is horrible.

All the fine chicas have lert. What is left you don't see on the street. And if you don't know where to go you might as well have gone to panama or Costa Rica.

Just this evening, I was looking out over calle de buen mesa hahahaha and there were only men visible.

And now the millionaires have arrived and opened discos on karrera 34 competing with each other and all the others.

Well this weekend they all closed early. Provenza is now too dangerous to walk. Even the thieves are scared.

For you rich dudes in your 6+ dollar figure cars, you are lookin good. Congratulations.

But be careful. Some of you have already had your cars stolen and I hear it happened at gunpoint. It was in the news..[/QUOTE]