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[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1165305]GE. I think that you have been here too long mate, and are in desperate need of a change. We all know that the place is a shithole but it does have its compensations and can be a great place to live for the unreflective foreign hedonist.[/QUOTE]I think you're correct CS. I've just been here too long, and hedonism isn't all that it's cracked up to be, at least within the narrow range of possibilities available here. I think I might feel different if I could live in Makati, where there are more of the attributes of Western civilization available.

GE

Although I too enjoyed the insights of how the mongering mind evolves with age and leaving in paradise can we get back to the topic.

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

DuckSign posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]See? All you people can do is insult others and try to look cool cause you have posted soooooo many posts.[/QUOTE]At least those of us with lots of posts contribute info and pics. You have contributed complaints? You said the thread was for info on prices, locations, etc. Where is your such wealth of info?

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]Wow do you feel like big men now?[/QUOTE]Looked in the photo thread lately?

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]I won't even explain anything to you assholes. You do not deserve it.[/QUOTE]Promises, promises. . .

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]This is supposed to be for INFORMATION on PRICES, LOCATIONS, ROUTES, TRAVEL, ETC.[/QUOTE]So you say. Or anything else related to Manila that tweaks our interest.

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]NOTE TO MODS: This is the last time I will visit this site.[/QUOTE]More promises. . .

[QUOTE=DuckSign;1165719]You really should consider trying to keep your posters on topic![/QUOTE]Yawn. . .

I lived in the PI before (Clark. Early 80s when the USAF was there) and nothing has compared since. Although my recent run in Makati was close!

I can't imagine learning the Thai language although their infrastructure is much better than PI.

I'll be retiring in PI in a few years. Probably in or near Dumaguete City, Negros Island. Lots of Westerners there. Beautiful quiet place. Not for mongers tho.

I love the PI. Filipinas are the best girls in the world IMO. Although there are some nice ones in Thailand, too. Going to Chiang Mai for Loy Krathong later this year and need to find a busty, sexy Thai girl to take along. If anyone has any recommendations please PM me. I promise to treat her well.

[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1164859]If given the choice, I'd probably live in Thailand as well, since to me it's much more engaging culturally than this arid wasteland, and it's interesting to me to watch how the Thais adapt their ancient culture to emerging technology and globalization without losing much of the essence that defines them. There's so little that could be called a Filipino ethos, so little sense of nationhood here, that it's an altogether cultural uninteresting place.

I think that perhaps-and this may apply to some extent to all of us-there's a bit of Pygmallion operating with these guys who hang out with uneducated Filipinas. A sort of pride in being able to introduce ignorant, poor women to better restaurants, hotels, and other amenities. I suppose in the end it comes down to power and control which are absent from male-female relationships in the West. In this case, the more unequal the distribution of education and money are between two people, the more in control is the man. So in the end, it may be all about ego gratification or it may be that people like Mr. E, others like him, and I are the true anomalies.

GE[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cunning Stunt;1165305]And Marcos still has his defenders and apologists. Its amazing. In any other country his memory would have been as reviled as that of Hitler in Germany.[/QUOTE]And they're getting ready to give him a military hero's burial and put his body (refrigerated for roughly 20 years) in the ground in a celebrated grave in Ilocos Norte. And the family is still influential in politics. Daughter Imee is Govenor of Ilocos Norte and a son and Imelda are members of Congress. It is amazing.

But Marcos is not the entire explanation. It's a complex mix of factors. Colonial habits do persist in ways that are almost inexplicable, and the Church is a major problem. Church leaders have been in bed with the propertied elites--which they and the Spanish leaders helped create--since earliest Spanish colonial times. I find it interesting that in Europe's traditional Catholic countries, secular and social democratic instincts have pushed the Church into decline. But in the Phils the Church continues to play the role Napoleon suggested: "religion is all that keeps the poor from murdering the rich."

Interestingly, the Church, under Cardinal Sin, provided a major moral justification to EDSA I, the non-violent popular demonstration that ousted Marcos. Fifteen years later Cardinal Sin also provided a moral justification--and worked behind the scenes with other powerful players--to give impetus to EDSA II, which ousted Joseph Estrada. It's true that Estrada had his fingers deep into the cookie jar, but he also had stepped firmly on the toes of military and police corruption, and the powers that be were threatened by him. So EDSA II was a sort of faux people power protest; it was substantially driven by powerful interests--with the moral and political backing of the Church. In fact, poor people counter-demonstrated in favor of Estrada, whom they considered their champion. In hindsight the two so-called people power protests beg the question why there is so little persistent social and economic uprising. Perhaps the aura of "people power" was always a mythical label that the media and powerful people attached to the situation after the fact.

As much as all of us can identify that corrupt and dysfunctional reality, I am still waiting for an explanation that puts its arms around the whole thing.

Your posts are few and far between but continually reflect an articulate and thoughtful perspective whether agreed with or not.

[QUOTE=Slippery;1166261]Your posts are few and far between but continually reflect an articulate and thoughtful perspective whether agreed with or not.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I've spent a fair amount of time trying to make sense of the overall Phils problem. CS seems to have a practical acceptance of what he enjoys and does not necessarily want it to change. GE seems to have lost patience with the whole thing. I'm not so convinced that "progress" is necessarily in the interest of everybody in the Phils. So when we define the situation as a "problem" maybe we are imposing our own expectations that the Phils ought to be more like us. Or perhaps I'm overthinking it.

[QUOTE=Chris Long;1163933]On another note does anyone know of any Universities or Schools that are close enough to AC or other monger destinations to slip in for some P4P but safe and far enough away that students or school officials would not be suspicious? I've been given the task of setting up a summer study abroad program in economics. The school will pay for me to go over and set it up and then pay for me to take students over for a three year commitment. Chris[/QUOTE]I've been away from the forum for a few days, so I apologize for responding six days after your post. I recalled this question coming up before and that I and others had responded previously. In fact, I see that eight of your 12 posts since February 2010 have posed this same question. This makes it appear that your interest in ISG has largely been related to setting up a mongering opportunity for yourself through your work for the school. I think that no easy answers have emerged in the interim. In any case, you're fortunate that your school will pay you to travel to the Phils to set it up, but I think what you are proposing to do is full of problems. I will attempt to send you a pm with some detailed thoughts about your proposal rather than bore other forum participants with the details. I hope you are serious about receiving the feedback that people have attempted to give you.

Recently completed my 5th trip of the year and was as exhausting as all previous.

Decided on this trip not to try to have 4 separate girls in one day, every day but instead arranged for one very sweet cute girl from Cebu to stay with me for 2 days and then see what else was around.

My Cebu girl isn't a big traveller indeed the last time I bought her to Manila was her first time on a plane. Lives in a small town near Cebu. Great English, great body and a great attitude. Doesn't know how to say no. So impressed me on first trip I wanted more, as we all do.

I arrived at 4am (thanks Cebu Pacific. The airline run by kids that treats its passengers as kids. It likes to call its passengers " guests " but as far as I know, I pay so I don't feel like a guest!" ladies and gentlemen do not stand up till the seat belt sign has gone off. I repeat do not stand up etc. Treats its passengers just like kids ). Arrive, go to bed and wake up at 6 to get text from Ms Cute saying she's boarding her flight in Cebu. We meet at airport and I do a double check that she's still as cute, and still sweet 19. She was.

Go to have breakfast then to my place and go to bed with clothes on. We both knew we are tired and would have a tiring day so no pussy pounding yet. Woke up with a well deserved bang LOL. Ms Cute then started modelling the clothes I had got her, and was ecstatic about the 5 inch heels LOL. We spent all day taking pics, having sex. Peaceful.

Out to Makati and Handlebar then Filling station where we ate with Ms cute sitting on my finger LOL.

Back to my place where I undressed her and had her on the balcony. Hope my neighbours had a good view.

Sleep and Sunday morning bonk which ended abruptly with a "Oh no. Its my period". Quick wash of the bed sheets followed LOL.

Out to Mall of Asia. Where we took some funny pics outside a humously named place called " Cockshop ". Catering for chickens etc.

Then to Sogo for more slutty pics (scholgirl, bondage wear etc.). And a sweet blow. Lots of drinking and the rest of the day is a haze.

During all this I'm gettting texts from some girls for later appointments ("please promise me we meet, promise promise" etc. Very boring!)

Next day, we laze around and I have more blows (the girls getting better in her technique thanks to a porn CD she saw in my place) , and then drop her at airport. I'm sure we will be meeting again. Pics look great.

From there, off to work till 6pm.

And then I headed for an interesting adventure. Had been chatting with a DIA lady and we both knew we would met and sex, but we just didn't know if its her place or mine. She had a kid and couldn't find a yaya so we agreed it would be her place.

I knew approx where her place was, and wasnt too bad an area, and went out with a wallet that only had cash in case something went wrong. She had a small place, but clean and neat and of course a son, who was quite sleepy. No aircon only fans which meant the place was hot. Anyways we sit down, share two bottles of wine, and some home cooked sinigang. At 10 she "suggests " I take a shower and off we go. Slim. 40 kgs. 21, could arch her back wonderfully, and no stretch marks. As soon as I entered her she murmers " Oh Freebie " and keeps saying this throughout.

Well by 1am we have covered every position and I have lost 5kgs in sweat. We sleep a bit but at 3am a cock does his early am crowing and off we go again. I think this lady hadn't had much and was trying to make up for lost time. Cocks go off at 5am but not mine LOL.

She made me omelette and coffee for breakfast too and had a big smile as we ate. I think she enoyed.

Home and had an hours sleep before taking on the next challenge.

First one was a girl who always sends me messages on Ym even if I tell her I'm busy etc. Sent me endless texts too. Always tells me she has no money but plenty of money to be on internet all day. We all know they type.

So I drive near to Dusit and there she is. Now this girl really looked like a boy. Oops. Had small girls frame, girls voice, girls feet, but face looked very boyish. She sat in my car and she had very small boobs I checked. I coudlnt find the courage to check what there below and so thanked her coming, gave her bus fare home and left. I had seen her on cam before and thought a bit boyish but not as bad as in real life. Anyways no loss.

Off to the mall and after lunch aranged to meet another "chatter". Who was also a serial texter.

She was shorter than I thought from cam, but had nice chest. We got to Eurotel and after an hour of playing around get her pink panties down, and enter. Of course as soon as I did, she gets all shy crosses her legs. (She said " I promised my Mum I'd behave in Manila". These province girls. LOL)

She offers to blow me to make up for it but this only last 30 seconds as she's a serial spitter. Same as in China. 20 seconds of blowing and 30 seconds of spitting. Told her to get dressed and took her back to mall.

And so there I am sending texts out to various ladies (oh freebie you didn't tell me you were back in town " LOL) when I get a text from Ms Bed and Breakfast saying " theres only place I'd like to be right now " I replied "where" and she sweetly says " wherever you are ". I tell her to get her ass in a taxi and we have two hours of delightful bonking. She will be a repeat too unless others take my place at the breakfast table.

Clean up my place, go to airport and get home by 1am.

Exhausted yes, but now need to recover fast as have 5 days in Bangkok coming up and have 10 phone numbers to explore. LOL. Lifes good!

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1165338]Many of the ills of the country have been around for a long time CS.

If you read Rizal's "Noli Me Tagere" written in 1886 you will see references to events and contexts and situations that are still common today (for example; the expectation of handouts). The administrators expected it from Spain; the village chiefs expected it from the administrators; the poor relied on it from the village chiefs etc etc. Today the country relies on handouts from foreign governments for infrastructure projects, and so on down the chain.

The church still rules the minds of most non-thinking filipinos (as the friars have done for 300 years) and they will not give up that power easily. [/QUOTE]If you read the Inquirer stories about the RH bill and the various pronouncements by priests about the bill, there are usually mny written comments there by various folk. My general impression is that the educated middle classes are no longer in thrall to bishops and priests but can see the common sense of separating chuch and state and church and politics. However the uneducated and poor clearly don't comment so we don't quite get their views LOL

[QUOTE=Snow Koala; 1165213]Another taxi trick is the taxi guy will speak Tagalog and ask your girl for more money. The girl will often look scared or feel uncomfortable which obviously is not good for you. Don't take that crap from taxi driver, just intervene and tell the guy he has been paid enough and don't let the girl get intimidated.[/QUOTE]Not just in taxis. Filipinos have a wonderfully insulting habit of talking to other Filipinos regardless of who initiated the conversation. I was in a shoe store in Mall of Asia with my sweetie looking at buying a pair of shoes for her. I asked the shop assistant "how much " in Tagalog. Assistant duly replied to my girl " do you want to buy these "

I replied in Tagalog that we are enquiring as to the price.

Assistant then addresses my girl (knowing by now that I at least speak a modicum of Tagalog) saying " I don't know if we have these in your size"

Knowing that this shop assistant was clearly operating at the outer limit of her IQ I enquired as to whether there were more shoe shops in Mall of Asia. She now replies directly to me saying yes over there, and there and there.

I say good because thats where were going LOL.

And don't get me started about the endless "What" that I hear every phone conversation I have."

Lets meet in that place I say" " What?". Do you mean sweet potential fucklet that you didn't understand what I said, didn't hear properly or were unsure of whixch language I was using?" "What?" is the inevitable reply.

Memo to The Philippines. Try using Pardon!

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1166278]My Cebu girl isn't a big traveller indeed the last time I bought her to Manila was her first time on a plane.[/QUOTE]Don't understand why you would fly a girl in from one big city to another big city. Maybe a bit like bringing sand to the beach?

[QUOTE=FreebieFan;1166279]If you read the Inquirer stories about the RH bill and the various pronouncements by priests about the bill, there are usually mny written comments there by various folk. My general impression is that the educated middle classes are no longer in thrall to bishops and priests but can see the common sense of separating chuch and state and church and politics. However the uneducated and poor clearly don't comment so we don't quite get their views LOL[/QUOTE]I agree FF BUT. In my office there are lots of women who are very very angry at me for a sticker I had on my filing cabinet that said "support the RH bill".

All intelligent women too.

They just mindlessly believe what the priests have been telling them from the pulpit. I am really disturbed myself that so many priests can tell such blatant lies just to bolster their opposition to the bill.

Whilst I wish the letter-writers supporting the RH Bill in the newspapers (and on Yahoo) are in the majority I fear that there are a lot of unthinking people who just treat what they are told by the religious as THE TRUTH.

Rizal got it right when he said.

"Ignorance is servitude. . . . . . ; a man who does not think for himself and allows himself to be guided by the thought of another is like the beast led by a halter. '. Jose Rizal

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1166385]I agree FF BUT. In my office there are lots of women who are very very angry at me for a sticker I had on my filing cabinet that said "support the RH bill".

All intelligent women too.

They just mindlessly believe what the priests have been telling them from the pulpit. I am really disturbed myself that so many priests can tell such blatant lies just to bolster their opposition to the bill.

Whilst I wish the letter-writers supporting the RH Bill in the newspapers (and on Yahoo) are in the majority I fear that there are a lot of unthinking people who just treat what they are told by the religious as THE TRUTH.

Rizal got it right when he said.

"Ignorance is servitude. . . . . . ; a man who does not think for himself and allows himself to be guided by the thought of another is like the beast led by a halter. '. Jose Rizal[/QUOTE]I was looking for a PRO RH bill sticker actually when I was there! I wanted to put it on my front door and on my car!

The more people who question what they are told (and I informev eryone that Heaven and Hell was a concept created by the Church in 1500s. That always gets a reaction as they are bought up to believe its The Truth that there is such places!)