Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=Villainy;2913865]You can't reason with people who don't have even a semblance of an intellect.

Watch this, this is my summary of the arguments against the vaccine:

1. The vaccine is deadly! Look at all these YouTube videos that prove it! (he made up his mind and then looked for confirmation and of course, it is the internet. If his thesis had been that little green men from Mars brought CoVid over here, I have no doubt he would have found several YouTube clips supporting the idea).

2. The vaccine was deadly because I had a friend who died. Over 7 million people worldwide died from the CoVid virus.

3. The vaccine was not adequately tested. (It was adequately tested but not "completely" tested). The point is that the vaccine was tested very quickly, found effective and mass produced and sent around the world. I guess it would have been better to test and retest and tweak the vaccine until it was perfect and no one would have ever had a side effect. Of course, by then the population of the earth may have been considerably smaller. After-all the virus mutates and adapts. Testing for perfection would have been nuts..[/QUOTE]Your buddy JJBee got vaxxed and had Covid in what was May of 2021, and you stupidly had lunch with him when he was sick, and the first thing that idiot did was defend the drug companies. That shows what Democratic douches you two are.

And what has come out recently is the government knew the vaccine was losing its efficacy right then and they still kept mandating it. If you had an open mind and kept up with things, you would know that.

So now even the NY Times is admitting of those hurt by the vaccine, and even though you literally know someone who had the vaccine and got Covid, and yet you defend the drug companies.

And the drug company stats showed a higher death rate among those who got the vaccine, and you and your fucked up head along with others with other vaccines is still defending taking it.

And now all the government lies are out for people to see, but some idiot like you thinks he is making his mind up about the facts, the problem is you are using facts from the winter of 2021.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2913909]LOL. No, I never said aluminum was in the Covid vaccine. You may have interpreted it that way, but I never said it. So your point is Mr. Five thousand boosters, the vaccine is safe, and everyone injured by it is a liar?[/QUOTE]The core issue is you as jumping in with an unproven assumption that people were injured by it. This same thing happened with the breast implant freakout claiming they were causing neurological diseases. The fact is that if you take 20,000 persons there will be some number (make it up, 10) who will get cancer tomorrow morning. Now if you give those 20,000 a shot of any kind, the same 10 will still get cancer tomorrow morning. Now those 10 will feel that maybe there is a connection and feel they can prove it ("I took the shot at 5 pm and 10 am Doctor checked me and said I just got cancer! The same issues that arose in all those breast implant lawsuits (many which won in court). Only after scientist showed that there was no increase in diseases between a non-breast implant population and those with implants that the who thing settled down. Same applies with any shot of this type. The ONLY way to scientifically prove it has negative effects is to take a non-shot identical population and a shot population and see if there is a difference in negative effects. So far, all studies show no statistic different (just as with breast implants causing neurological diseases). So currently there is no evidence that anyone has been injured by one of these shots. Yes, people have gotten VERY sick after getting one, but most likely they were going to get very sick anyways.

While I am at it, let me take another scientific view of this kind of fear. Say you have a disease that kills 100 in 1,000. Then you develop a shot that kills 1 in 1,000 but reduces the death rate of the disease to 10 in 1,000. Is that shot viable? I mean, it saves 89 in 1,000 over not taking anything. The shot sucks for some but saves more than it hurts. That is how the MMR shot works that all babies are recommended to get (the specific numbers are different, but the concept is the same. The MMR shot does hurt and kill some, but at far lower numbers than not taking it). So you can argue correctly that the MMR shot is not 100% safe, but you can also argue it saves way more lives than it hurts. Apply the same thinking of other shots, if you are able to prove they actually did hurt some. They may do this at a much lower rate than they save people.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2913793]It's the classic Red Herring Fallacy. You pointed to the facts that show that the Covid-19 vaccines do not contain aluminum[/QUOTE]Why would anyone think the Covid vaccine was the same as other vaccines when the government changed the definition of the vaccine with the Covid vaxx?

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2913793]The fact of the matter is that many lives were saved from the covid vaccines, math doesn't lie.[/QUOTE]What math? I looked for it and got this: This article is a preprint and has not been peer-reviewed. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice.

[QUOTE=Gabacho;2913793]You know these antivaxers just come up with their own fake science to make themselves feel better about being idiots. [/QUOTE]What the hell are you talking about antivaxxer? I just said the polio and measles vaccines make sense for people to take.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2914003]So currently there is no evidence that anyone has been injured by one of these shots.[/QUOTE]No evidence huh? Unreal.

[QUOTE=FlawlessZeal;2913790]Who wants to bet these mongers trust "Big Pharma" when it comes to buying viagra, ciallis, doxycycline, truvada, Hep-A / Hep-B / HPV vaccines, or any other drugs they get for medical care throughout the rest of their life.[/QUOTE]Any fool can know if viagra works in 30 minutes. But you can get the Hepatits A vaccine, and you do not know if it worked, and you do not know what the side effects are. Plus, vaccines are mandated, and unlike with drugs, vaccine manufacturers cannot be sued, so your comparison is as apples to oranges as it gets.

And now we have the idiot JJBee chiming in who got the vaccine and got Covid defending the drug companies. You cannot make this shit up.

Whether or not I should be, I am astonished a group of grown men are on here re-litigating coronavirus vaccines and political conspiracies. I'm pretty sure there are places on the Internet dedicated to this sort of thing. I'm starting to realize that it is more about me because it doesn't really matter what topic I am reading, before long a handful of completely unrelated comments appear. Usually about immigration, vaccinations, or American elections.

So any fool can see the 2020 election was stolen, and any fool can see that COVID was a myth, and any fool can see that the COVID vaccine is a hoax. Good thing I'm not any fool. For all the fans of [I]res ipsa loquitur [/I]out there, I had seven COVID shots and I'm not dead, so that proves absolutely the vaccine is safe ja ja.

Sorry, I meant [I]post hoc ergo propter hoc[/I] and not [I]res ipsa loquitur[/I].

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2914003]So currently there is no evidence that anyone has been injured by one of these shots. Yes, people have gotten VERY sick after getting one, but most likely they were going to get very sick anyways.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.theburningplatform.com/2024/04/04/cdc-releases-hidden-trove-of-covid-19-vaccine-injury-reports/[/URL]

The CDC, for years, declined to make the V-safe data public, instead publishing studies that described the reports as providing reassurance about the safety of the shots. However, according to data released in 2022, nearly 8 percent of the 10 million users required medical attention or hospital care after vaccination, and many others reported missing school, work, or other normal activities.

(And the vaccine was not even working in 2022.)

The first two tranches, comprising 780,000 reports from some 523,000 people, include dozens of reports of heart inflammation, hundreds of reports of facial paralysis, and thousands of reports of tinnitus.

And the fuckers at the CDC did not want to release the information:

The same judge who ordered the release of that data ordered the agency in January to disclose free-text entries from a different section where individuals could describe their experiences. USA District Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, appointed by former President Donald Trump, dismissed the government's arguments that processing the responses and redacting sensitive information would require too much work.

What do you mean people were likely to get sick anyway? How the fuck would you know that?

This the problem with you fucking Democratic douches. It does not matter how many millions of people got hurt as long as Trump got out of office.

I got the vaccine and I didn't get COVID so that proves it works. Okay, no it doesn't. But Woodman didn't get vaccinated and got COVID multiple times. That also proves the vaccine must work. Okay, no it doesn't prove anything. Juan Soto struck out on a fastball yesterday so that proves he can't hit fastballs. Oh and I had a whole bunch of aluminum toxicity in my system from all the vaccines I took, but then I wore a copper bracelet for six weeks and all the toxins are gone now. I know a guy who knew a guy who had a cousin whose friend got real sick from the COVID vaccine after he drank a liter of Southern Comfort. So I think maybe Southern Comfort causes COVID.

[QUOTE=DiscoverFL;2914003]The core issue is you as jumping in with an unproven assumption that people were injured by it. This same thing happened with the breast implant freakout claiming they were causing neurological diseases. The fact is that if you take 20,000 persons there will be some number (make it up, 10) who will get cancer tomorrow morning. Now if you give those 20,000 a shot of any kind, the same 10 will still get cancer tomorrow morning. Now those 10 will feel that maybe there is a connection and feel they can prove it ("I took the shot at 5 pm and 10 am Doctor checked me and said I just got cancer! The same issues that arose in all those breast implant lawsuits (many which won in court). Only after scientist showed that there was no increase in diseases between a non-breast implant population and those with implants that the who thing settled down. Same applies with any shot of this type. The ONLY way to scientifically prove it has negative effects is to take a non-shot identical population and a shot population and see if there is a difference in negative effects. So far, all studies show no statistic different (just as with breast implants causing neurological diseases). So currently there is no evidence that anyone has been injured by one of these shots. Yes, people have gotten VERY sick after getting one, but most likely they were going to get very sick anyways..[/QUOTE]All these Bullshitters seem to be American-Canadian-- [URL]https://www.realnotrare.com[/URL] There is undoubtably a bunch of fakers in Europe Asia and Australia too.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2914021]I got the vaccine and I didn't get COVID so that proves it works. Okay, no it doesn't. But Woodman didn't get vaccinated and got COVID multiple times. That also proves the vaccine must work. Okay, no it doesn't prove anything. Juan Soto struck out on a fastball yesterday so that proves he can't hit fastballs. Oh and I had a whole bunch of aluminum toxicity in my system from all the vaccines I took, but then I wore a copper bracelet for six weeks and all the toxins are gone now. I know a guy who knew a guy who had a cousin whose friend got real sick from the COVID vaccine after he drank a liter of Southern Comfort. So I think maybe Southern Comfort causes COVID.[/QUOTE]These People are All BullShitters-- The Covid Vax is Great!

And All these Doctors are Just Full of Shit too!! [URL]https://rumble.com/v4jpey3-novel-coronavirus-southwestern-intergovernmental-committee-mar.-152024.html[/URL].

[QUOTE=Huacho;2914021]I got the vaccine and I didn't get COVID so that proves it works. Okay, no it doesn't. But Woodman didn't get vaccinated and got COVID multiple times. That also proves the vaccine must work. Okay, no it doesn't prove anything. Juan Soto struck out on a fastball yesterday so that proves he can't hit fastballs. Oh and I had a whole bunch of aluminum toxicity in my system from all the vaccines I took, but then I wore a copper bracelet for six weeks and all the toxins are gone now. I know a guy who knew a guy who had a cousin whose friend got real sick from the COVID vaccine after he drank a liter of Southern Comfort. So I think maybe Southern Comfort causes COVID.[/QUOTE]These People are All BullShitters-- The Covid Vax is Great! [URL]https://www.realnotrare.com/[/URL].

And All these Doctors are just Full of Shit too!! [URL]https://rumble.com/v4jpey3-novel-coronavirus-southwestern-intergovernmental-committee-mar.-152024.html[/URL].

Hey guys, it's time to play a little game. I call it "Guess the hypocrite". Who among us was critical of anything to do with the virus but as soon as the vaccine was made available this person rushed to the local pharmacy and swishing his lard-ass, pushed people out of the way so that he could get to the front of the line and get his vaccination before they ran out.

There are several hints that should make it pretty easy but I'll throw in another one. This hypocrite is a prolific poster in the Stupid Shit in Medellin thread.

No minds have been changed.

No one has renounced their "religion" and started attending the other guy's church.

What is the point? Besides people venting their spleens? Or feeling they have more power over these matters than they really do?

Someone once told me that arguing with a cop is like wrestling with a pig.

Everyone gets dirty, but the pig loves it.

You can replace "cop" with almost anything, but the futility of the argument is obvious.

Whether it is vaccines or taxicab fare, do we really benefit from these extended arguments?

Is it possible we get very excited about these things. Even though we are completely powerless to change outcomes.
Because we have too much time on our hands and not enough face-to-face time with actual people?

Is there any way we could move the "great debate" to some Reddit sub forum?