Jakarta

For those in the sex prison of the US.

This morning and she even brought me coffee. Do not ask for contact info. This one is mine. All mine! LOL

first time in jakarta.

gentleman, if you've never been to jakarta. read and read and read the forum. make a plan, take notes. if you're so inclined, pay that sex club tour guide his 200 dollars, it sounds like it's worth it.

jakarta is not easy to navigate.

my hotel was about thirty km from the airport, and the second time i taxi'ed from the airport to my hotel, it took about 40 minutes for the first 29 km, and 30 minutes for the last km. i would have been better off walking the last km, except i didn't know where the fuck i was, really.

it's a huge city: 14 million? unlike angeles, thailand, phnom penh, there doesn't seem to be any walkable district to have fun in.

i read the forum and wrote pages of notes and still found myself rather overwhelmed. (it's possible my attitudes at first were biased by a backache the first few days.) after a few days in jakarta i wanted out. i took 5 days and went to bali and relaxed at the hot springs hotel, no girls, just pure relaxation. then came back to jakarta for a few more days.

i stayed in north jakarta; don't know what the rest of jakarta is like.

hotels.

i took the advice of one of the mongers on the forum and got a hotel in north jakarta, because it seemed to be in the center of things: near classic, travel, stadium, etc. it was right behind the legendary stadium. it was less expensive than his recommendation. he said mercure, which was 100 dollars a night. not in my budget. (mercure did have a good computer / printer business center, a rarity in this neighborhood where there were not a lot of internet cafe's.)

my first hotel was 32 a night, hotel antonio. i wouldn't go there again: a big letdown after a great 40 dollar hotel in phnom penh, (the blue tongue). the rooms were unpleasant looking, no window, construction going on from 9am waking us late sleepers. the wifi in the room was ok. it did have a mirror above the bed. the place was old and worn out, but apparently has a new owner and name. no elevator to the third floor. the staff was ok.

i moved to hotel classic. paid about 50-60 a night. good breakfast buffet, very clean if unimaginative theécor in the rooms. only problem: no wifi in the rooms, only in the café downstairs. advantage: there are two clubs inside the hotel which have 40-80 cute young things ready to go. more on that later.

i also stayed at the hotel fave pasar baru a couple nights, because i was sure they would have good wifi in the rooms, and by then i understood the locations of north jakarta better and realized that the blue taxis could get me there cheaply. very clean, modern, slick theécor, ok breakfast. all these places were girl friendly.

taxis.

the legitimate blue taxis are inexpensive and use the meter. your hotel will usually have some ready for you or will call one for you.

the rest of the taxis are ridiculous.

i got a ride on a motorbike one day early in my trip, and gave the guy 20, 000 rupiah (two dollars) which seemed reasonable. he got really mad, demanded 50, 000, said it was a difficult route, etc. i just gave it to him. newbie mistake.

later, i got in a cab with a couple girls from a club, took a short ride to the stadium. the girls and the taxi driver seemed to be saying 100, 000, (10 dollars) and i was being agreeable in the way people who don't understand a language are agreeable. when we arrived, i knew it was about 2 dollar ride: i gave him 3. he was furious! he wouldn't take it. i left it on the seat. he got out of the car and continued to yell at me, as i walked away.

on the way to my hotel that night, the same situation. the girl and the driver seemed to be saying 5 dollars, i knew it was about 1. 50 ride, and i gave him three: he acted as if i had stolen his daughters virginity without paying a dowry.

better to negotiate first if you have to take a non-regulated ride: but how do you do that if you don't know how far the trip is going to be? the blue taxis were cleaner, a / see, and i always tipped and the drivers were always reasonable, and appreciative of the tip.

english.

even when i found someone who spoke english, i often couldn't understand them because of a thick bahasa accent. i'd end up asking for three repetitions then get back some simple information. (stadium is pronounced: stah dee ooohm)

massage.

when i'm in asia i like to get an hour of real massage most days, for 5-10 dollars plus tip. all the hotels had massage options; about 10-13 dollars an hour. all of the girls were available for a handjob. i wasn't interested, except once when i decided i wanted to look for a girl who looked like my lovely ex-girlfriend : she was indonesian / dutch / chinese. the girl in the fave hotel looked like her. and she, even more than the others, was quite aggressive about wanting to give me a happy ending. ok, how much? fifty dollars. i laughed. we finally got down to an extra ten dollars for a happy ending. for a few moments, before i came, the sensation was incredibly pleasurable, the best. made me understand why guys like these happy ending massages.

i had a backache when i arrived in jakarta, and down the street by hotel antonio were some massage places, so one day i went in an picked an older lady, maybe 40, for a massage. she gave an excellent massage, i took an extra half hour, then she asked if i wanted more optons. not interested. that's when i noticed she had taken off her skirt. and then the price: sticker shock. i was in a sex massage place, not a real massage place. i figured because the women in the massage place were unattractive, and the woman gave a great massage, it was a legitimate massage place. so, the price for an hour and a half massage was 35 dollars, whether or not i took the sex. oh well, still a bargain, and good for my back.

clubs (in north jakarta)

stadium.

i was looking forward to going to the stadium. i've had lots of experiences with ravers / techno music people at burning man, and at parties in california, but never really was a part of that scene, only an observer. from the forum i learned that they had world class dj's at the stadium, and i checked them out on youtube. that helped me feel more comfortable there: the youtube videos made me feel like i had already been there when i got to the main dance room.

i was there about 20 minutes when i got a fantasy fulfilled: a girl on ecstasy started nuzzling and rubbing on me, clearly a pro from her knowledge and hustling, but a pro on ecstasy, that was fun.

i told her i didn't have enough money, i think it was about 30-40 dollars. she said, no problem, got a credit card?

awesome. you go upstairs, check in at reception like a hotel, they take your credit card, you pay for the girl and the room together.

the room was ok, had a shower in it. the girl was about 23, cute, short, nice body, ok english. and quite enthusiastic, being on ecstasy. (just a little, she said.) one hour. like girls on ecstasy, she sometimes changed positions quickly, a little drug induced add, lol.

at the end, she kept trying to talk me into taking her to my hotel, for 100 dollars, i wasn't interested. claimed she got 1500 dollars sometimes, for a month. no thanks. but thanks for fulfilling a fantasy of mine, a hot girl on ecstasy, who is ready immediately to get naked and wild.

millie's.

i was looking forward to millie's, after reading about it on the forum: girls with tattoos, piercings, on drugs, offering to hold your dick in the bathroom, barely legal: that sounded like a lot of fun to me! and a lot like the kids who populate my liberal college town and some of the events i'm involved in.

when i went to millie's, it wasn't like that at all. i first went during the day by cab, because someone on the forum said it was dangerous, to understand what i was getting into. it's on the top floor of a mall. doesn't seem very dangerous, even at night. one of the forum reports said it's being renovated: maybe it used to be different. i went back at night. it was only a couple hundred people at most, though it looked like it could have gotten more crowded later. a small dance floor, surrounded by some stools. middle class looking kids, i didn't see tattoos or piercings. i sat next to some girls who were high. they do this funny kind of being high dancing, moving their heads like an indian doing that side to side head movement of agreement, but when they are high it's like they're doing it repeatedly while facing upwards and wearing sunglasses in the dark: stoned bahasa girls imitating stevie wonder. i started dancing with and talking to a not good looking, but friendly girl who spoke good english. for awhile i thought i might actually have a non-pro experience. then i started checking out a cute young girl. 21, dressed for clubbing, tight jeans, sunglasses. the friendly not-cute girl noticed, and said: do you like her? i said i did. she explained that the girl would want money.

i smiled and said: i have money!

i started talking to the girl: she spoke very little english: mostly, money, and stadium. so i took her and her friend to the stadium; she kissed me in the cab. her friend disappeared soon with an old chinese guy: clearly she was an independent businesswoman of the night. my girl and i danced for an hour, and it was kind of a gfe: you don't have to speak to each other when you're both facing the dj and your girl has your dick on her butt while you dance and you gently explore her body. advantage: you get to check out other girls at the same time.

eventually, this turned into a cherry girl type experience. we got to my hotel, cuddled, she promptly fell asleep; when i made progress at getting her clothes undone, she jumped up and asked for taxi money. oh well. i actually had a good time, no problem, i like cuddling and dancing with cherry girls once in a while, it was an erotic experience that lasted for hours. i had been feeling like i was too low on the girlfriend experience scale: this was like a first date, don't get too far sexually but it's fun.

hotel travel.

i went there once to check it out. kind of similar to hotel classic, with a lineup of girls in a club, and a hotel, but the rooms look like they are from an older era. prices about the same. the taxi driver didn't know where it was, it took awhile to clue him in.

classic hotel.

it's a nice hotel, the floors get polished every night, the rooms are very clean. i stayed in a room there for about five days. the second floor club opens at 2pm, closes in the am sometime. the fifth floor club opens at five pm, closes slightly later.

i started smiling like a happy lunatic the first time i went to the club, looking at all the hot and willing babes. there were about 60 girls in groups of about 10, each group had it's own color and style of a moderately sexy uniform. i was usually the only white guy there. the mamasans make a beeline for you immediately and call over girls; usually they would bring me a girl who spoke a little english. costs 32 dollars for an hour with one. 46 dollars for an hour and a half with two girls. if you take two girls, they have to be the same uniform / mamasan. the people in the fifth floor club didn't know anything about the 6 girls for 80 dollar deal of the past, and all the girls upstairs were indonesian, no russians or mexicans or anything else that i could see as people had described in the past. ages about 18 to 24 usually. one night when i went there, there were girls on stage dancing in only g-strings. i was a little surprised how the girl that the mamasan brought me was patiently waiting while i stared at one girl dancing who looked like a perfect asian hottie from my home state, only naked. and she patiently waited when the girl got off the stage, and i called her over for a sort of lapdance: heaven. the dancer wasn't available for fucking, but she smiled and kissed me well and danced tight and close and grinding, and when i licked her nipples, she patted me on the back like i was some poor lunatic she cared for. which i was. awesome. after she left, i understood the girl's patience next to me; i had gotten heated up, and soon took her and another girl to sex up.

threesomes.

most of the time i go for short time these days, but i'm used to short time being two hours; at classic its 90 minutes. the first threesome i had at classic was great fun, but seemed to end a little too soon. the second threesome, i hurried it a little. after that, i got used to the rhythm of the hour and a half.

the girls walk you to another part of the building, with excellent little rooms for hot sex: clean, bright, a sexy picture on one wall, with a big bed, a big mirror on one side and a glass walled shower on the other, and a tv. (during one of my threesomes, i was doggy with a girl in front while the helpful girl behind was standing over me stroking my balls. in the big mirror it looked like some of those ancient erotic sculptures of threesomes, on the walls of the ancient tantric temples at khajuraho). i always tried to walk behind the girls to the room, to enjoy them navigating the path in their high heels and tight dresses. once inside, a waitress will bring you drinks if you like. the girls take out some soap and mouthwash, and shower, and they wash you from dick to chest, lol. i got used to taking off my clothes and showering as soon as i got in the room, to make the most of my time. they are going to take another slow shower and mouthwash when they leave, so figure out how that works in timing for two girls.

threesomes in general are not the best for gfe: but these in particular are different from threesomes in angeles city, where you might get one or both of the girls excited. the girls at classic want you to get off, and most of them don't want you to lick them, or massage their pussy, and some even reject simple massage by a former massage therapist, me. (one of the girls, a pretty 24 year old milf that i did in a threesome then again later alone, spoke excellent english. she explained that she worked about 4-6 days a week, and fucked 1-4 guys every day. that's like 300 guys in the five months she worked there! and she gets 8 dollars for her time with the guy. makes you understand why these girls don't want you poking in their vaginas any more than necessary. she was the only christian girl, the rest were muslim. and she smiled a lot, and said she liked her job, she liked being naughty.)

i like shy girls, so i often wound up with one was outgoing, who spoke a little english, was more likely to be a single mom, and more into sex; with another more shy girl whose body was more tight, but gave less experienced service.

i had already experienced the weird blowjobs in cambodia where the girls act like your clear pre-cum is nasty. they suck a little, then hit your dick with a tissue, then repeat, until the bed is littered with tissues. (one of the girls not only put on a condom for the bj, she wiped my balls and scrotum with her mouthwash to disinfect it! i didn't realize it until i noticed my balls were hella cold and tingling unpleasantly.) a lot of the girls at classic are like that, but not all: some give good head.

over about four or five days staying at classic hotel, i had several threesomes at the classic club, and several individual sessions, all quite enjoyable.

twelve in one day.

i heard an old aussie in angeles city complaining one day that his drinking hole near swagman's was closed, because some young single guy had barfined the entire bar and taken them to the beach at subic bay. the old guy said 'you can't fuck 27 girls! '. i thought it was great: the guy made big money working hard on isolated oil rigs, he could afford it, and why not have the experience? if you can't fuck 27 girls, you can have fun trying.

i also read about hugh hefner's habit of thursday night scheduled romps with his mansion bunnies. they come into a darkened room with music, might have some ecstasy, wear some outfits he likes. his regular girl gets him hard with a bj, then 10 girls get on him and fuck him for a couple minutes each. maybe they are chanting 'go hef! '. his philosophy: every person has the right to try to act out their sexual fantasies.

i had been frustrated by the lack of gfe in north jakarta for me, but i was getting better at appreciating what i had. my last full day i got an idea: i'll fuck 12 girls in the next 24 hours.

i give sex parties, and i'd always felt that on the fourth girl i fucked at a party, it was too much: my arms would get tired out when i was on top of them. i'd start shaking a little. but these girls don't care about you getting them off, they are there for you to get off and them to get money for their motorcycle / phone whatever. so it would be easier on me. i semi-intentionally don't ejaculate much, and i like to fuck a long long time, so this could be fun.

here's the record of how what happened on my last 24 hours in jakarta.

saturday. 115am in classic terminal club, second floor.

i pick two girls. they were actually the best all day: both young and cute and good personalities. the one who was a bit shyer about sex, with the tissue blowjobs, was very pretty and had a body to die for: incredible firm see cup breasts, everything else in slim proportion. i'm six foot two, and she kept saying, with a worried look, are you really big? sometimes i joked that i was tiny, sometimes i joked that i was huge. when she saw me (i'm average size) , i told her i would be gentle. she didn't understand; her language for that is : slow, slowly. no problem, i like making girls happy, and i like going slow.

i told them i wanted to marry both of them, and take them home with me. (i do want to marry both of them. let me know if there's a country where i can get fifty. or six hundred. fiance visas, simultaneously.) the outgoing girl with braces was trying out her english, amusingly: 'i miss you' 'i love you' 'i like you'. by then i had an indonesian phrasebook and we used it sometimes. especially the phrase "saya senang" (i am happy!). i had also been to bali, and bought a sarong there. that was a great prop: i got them, and several of the other girls later, to use it as a sarong for barebreasted balinese dance moves, as a muslim arab headdress covering the eyes, as an indonesian scarf covering the hair, as a belly dancer, etc. the girls were laughing and showing off, trying dance moves and checking themselves out in the mirror. often i'd get behind them and feel them up, fantasizing about them in all those different ways.

315 am in the fifth floor classic club.

i pop some viagra.

the club is near closing time, but there are still lots of girls on the bleachers. i pick a girl; she doesn't want to come, she wants to go home and sleep or whatever. i'm fine with that, but the mamasan gets mad at her and makes her come over. i don't want her, but the mamasan is going to make her do it, and will get more mad at her if i don't take her, so, ok. another girl comes over willingly, and we go to the room. the first girl has started to wake herself up, dancing vigorously, and when we get to the room: it's the worst threesome i have all day, because the first girl is so intent on getting it over with. she keeps talking about getting out of there, going home, going home soon. first she orders not just drinks but a big can of fruit, all of which she stuffs in her purse. she's ordering the other girl around. they do give decent service, and i tell them to go home after less than an hour. they ask for a tip, which i had given to all the girls. i smiled and said 'what? after all that 'go home go home go home? no, just go home early, go to sleep. '

5am.

i head over to stadium. but it's closed. no more girls until classic terminal club opens at two pm.

6am

breakfast buffet at the classic, check my email, then get some sleep.

2pm.

i'm back at the club. by 230 i'm in the room with two girls. life is good.

4pm comic interlude.

this pair was ridiculous. one of the girls kept telling the other girl what to do, insistently, and the other would respond mildly, then the first would be insanely argumentative and bossy. like, constantly. i finally told the first girl (after i fucked her) , to sit on the bed, watch tv, and stop looking at me and the other girl.

6pm.

at last i get two hot girls who both give energetic service. the one i thought was shy, wasn't. and she had big breasts on a small slim toned body. alas, she was the girl who gave me head plus mouthwash on the scrotum. a bit distracting. but besides that, an excellent pair of girls. the more experienced milf was ok with me licking her pussy, a rarity in classic threesomes. i had to convince her it was fun for me. if the girl liked it.

saya senang.

8pm.

my last round. i'm getting a little tired. i pick a spinner and a very sweet looking girl. i like girls who are laughing and smiling, and they were. but when the little one came over, something about her smile was a little tight, it lowered my enjoyment a bit. so i figured i'd fuck her first, and save the better for last.

once i started with her, i got really turned on! out of all my indonesian girls, she was the one i did the most positions with, and fucked energetically from one part of the room to the other. something about that tiny slim body. at one point, i picked her up, walked across the room to where the other girl was standing naked: put the taller girl against the wall, then i fucked the little girl using the tall sweet girl for a backdrop. then back to the edge of the bed, etc, etc. then the sweet girl. by this time, i was getting tired. not tired of fucking, just needing some sleep.

all the girls gave blowjobs, ranging from pretty good to ridiculous. all the girls wanted condoms for fucking. i fucked them all for awhile. i've done it, it was good, i don't need to ever do it again. classic may be the best place in the world for fucking a dozen young hotties in one day without breaking the bank.

overall jakarta impression.

jakarta is difficult in some ways, but it has a lot to offer. the hot and sweet young things made me want to learn indonesian. there are plenty of options that i never got a chance to explore. i'll come back.

[QUOTE=Euremia;1419684]How about your experiences? Is she my girl common here?[/QUOTE]Generally speaking, if the girl likes you, she will go to great lengths. It varies (as always) as to what she is willing to do; some may not like anal sex, but generally almost anything goes. The whole BBBJ while watching TV also depends on how much the girl likes to do that. The longest I've had was almost 50 minutes. But you really do feel like you are THE MAN. LOL Make the best of what you have and enjoy it while you can.

MD II

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]First Time in Jakarta.

Gentleman, if you've never been to Jakarta. Read and read and read the forum. Make a plan, take notes. If you're so inclined, pay that sex club tour guide his 200 dollars, it sounds like it's worth it.

Classic may be the best place in the world for fucking a dozen young hotties in one day without breaking the bank.

OVERALL JAKARTA IMPRESSION.

Jakarta is difficult in some ways, but it has a lot to offer. The hot and sweet young things made me want to learn Indonesian. There are plenty of options that I never got a chance to explore. I'll come back.[/QUOTE]Will read & re-read this entire FR before I venture out to Classic.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]TAXIS.

The legitimate blue taxis are inexpensive and use the meter. Your hotel will usually have some ready for you or will call one for you.

The rest of the taxis are ridiculous.

I got a ride on a motorbike one day early in my trip, and gave the guy 20, 000 rupiah (two dollars) which seemed reasonable. He got really mad, demanded 50, 000, said it was a difficult route, etc. I just gave it to him. Newbie mistake.

Later, I got in a cab with a couple girls from a club, took a short ride to the Stadium. The girls and the taxi driver seemed to be saying 100, 000, (10 dollars) and I was being agreeable in the way people who don't understand a language are agreeable. When we arrived, I knew it was about 2 dollar ride: I gave him 3. He was furious! He wouldn't take it. I left it on the seat. He got out of the car and continued to yell at me, as I walked away.

On the way to my hotel that night, the same situation. The girl and the driver seemed to be saying 5 dollars, I knew it was about 1. 50 ride, and I gave him three: he acted as if I had stolen his daughters virginity without paying a dowry.

Better to negotiate first if you have to take a non-regulated ride: but how do you do that if you don't know how far the trip is going to be? The blue taxis were cleaner, a / see, and I always tipped and the drivers were always reasonable, and appreciative of the tip.[/QUOTE]Those taxis are absolute crap and run by the mafia. The reason you don't see legit bluebird taxis coming around when those taxis are waiting is because they are scared of the mafia. However, those taxis do wait 2 to 3 hours for a customer normally, so they do deserve a bit more than the normal fare. I will normally give them double the normal fare which results to around 50 to 60k for most central hotels in Jakarta. You ABSOLUTELY have to negotiate with them before entering the taxi. If they want too much, then start walking down the road. Once you get far enough away from them, the bluebirds won't be scared to pick you up. Problem is sometimes you have to walk quite a ways and there may not even be any taxis that happen by. If you have a girl in tow, those girls don't normally like to walk far. You can normally negotiate a decent price with those crap taxis though as long as it's done before ever entering the taxi.

Same with the motorbikes. Always negotiate first with them. (I refuse to take them though, they are maniac drivers.)

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]STADIUM.

I was looking forward to going to the Stadium. I've had lots of experiences with ravers / techno music people at Burning Man, and at parties in California, but never really was a part of that scene, only an observer. From the forum I learned that they had world class dj's at the Stadium, and I checked them out on Youtube. That helped me feel more comfortable there: the youtube videos made me feel like I had already been there when I got to the main dance room.

I was there about 20 minutes when I got a fantasy fulfilled: a girl on ecstasy started nuzzling and rubbing on me, clearly a pro from her knowledge and hustling, but a pro on ecstasy, that was fun.

I told her I didn't have enough money, I think it was about 30-40 dollars. She said, no problem, got a credit card?

Awesome. You go upstairs, check in at reception like a hotel, they take your credit card, you pay for the girl and the room together.

The room was ok, had a shower in it. The girl was about 23, cute, short, nice body, ok English. And quite enthusiastic, being on ecstasy. (Just a little, she said.) One hour. Like girls on ecstasy, she sometimes changed positions quickly, a little drug induced ADD, LOL.

At the end, she kept trying to talk me into taking her to my hotel, for 100 dollars, I wasn't interested. Claimed she got 1500 dollars sometimes, for a month. No thanks. But thanks for fulfilling a fantasy of mine, a hot girl on ecstasy, who is ready immediately to get naked and wild.[/QUOTE]Glad you had a good time, but I find this a bit humorous. As you said, for sure that girl was a "pro". And an employee of Stadium. I don't believe the girl you found was some free lance girl on ecstasy who decided to venture upstairs on a horny whim to earn a few extra bucks. When you first walk into that disco, the front bar area has mamasans and hard core hookers waiting there who are hired to work there and get a percentage of each time they take a guy upstairs. Stadium is not only a disco, it's a knock shop with professionals manning the floor. As far as I know, those are the only girls who can take a customer upstairs there, freelancers cannot. No doubt, your girl was one of the hardcore girls employed there. Are they on ecstasy? Absolutely. Are they a good time? Absolutely. I always like to get a shot in with one of them when I venture to Stadium.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog; 1420671]MILLIE'S.

I was looking forward to Millie's, after reading about it on the forum: girls with tattoos, piercings, on drugs, offering to hold your dick in the bathroom, barely legal: that sounded like a lot of fun to me! And a lot like the kids who populate my liberal college town and some of the events I'm involved in.

When I went to Millie's, it wasn't like that at all. I first went during the day by cab, because someone on the forum said it was dangerous, to understand what I was getting into. It's on the top floor of a mall. Doesn't seem very dangerous, even at night. One of the forum reports said it's being renovated: maybe it used to be different. I went back at night. It was only a couple hundred people at most, though it looked like it could have gotten more crowded later. A small dance floor, surrounded by some stools. Middle class looking kids, I didn't see tattoos or piercings. I sat next to some girls who were high. They do this funny kind of being high dancing, moving their heads like an Indian doing that side to side head movement of agreement, but when they are high it's like they're doing it repeatedly while facing upwards and wearing sunglasses in the dark: stoned bahasa girls imitating Stevie Wonder. I started dancing with and talking to a not good looking, but friendly girl who spoke good english. For awhile I thought I might actually have a non-pro experience. Then I started checking out a cute young girl. 21, dressed for clubbing, tight jeans, sunglasses. The friendly not-cute girl noticed, and said: do you like her? I said I did. She explained that the girl would want money.

I smiled and said: I have money!

I started talking to the girl: she spoke very little English: mostly, money, and Stadium. So I took her and her friend to the Stadium; she kissed me in the cab. Her friend disappeared soon with an old Chinese guy: clearly she was an independent businesswoman of the night. My girl and I danced for an hour, and it was kind of a GFE: you don't have to speak to each other when you're both facing the dj and your girl has your dick on her butt while you dance and you gently explore her body. Advantage: you get to check out other girls at the same time.

Eventually, this turned into a cherry girl type experience. We got to my hotel, cuddled, she promptly fell asleep; when I made progress at getting her clothes undone, she jumped up and asked for taxi money. Oh well. I actually had a good time, no problem, I like cuddling and dancing with cherry girls once in a while, it was an erotic experience that lasted for hours. I had been feeling like I was too low on the girlfriend experience scale: this was like a first date, don't get too far sexually but it's fun.[/QUOTE]This sounds like the only time during your stay where you took a girl not controlled by mamasans. I prefer those type of girls. But you let that girl off easy. In my opinion, no way was that a "cherry girl". More like a lazy girl who got off easy and got money for doing nothing. Those girls do get that way sometimes though when they come down from their X high. The first girl already told you "she would want money". Those girls know they have to have sex with you to earn that money. No money, no honey goes both ways. No honey, no money is what you need to tell that chick. I do like grinding into a girl all night like you did, but I hope you didn't give her more than 50k taxi money if all she did was cuddle. We can't have these girls expecting money for nothing.

[QUOTE=SleepyDog;1420671]I had been frustrated by the lack of GFE in north Jakarta for me[/QUOTE]North Jakarta is absolutely NOT the place you want to be if you want GFE. It sounds like every single girl you fucked on your visit was a hard core hooker controlled by mamasans. Those girls are rarely if ever GFE. You can find GFE in the places with free lancers or the dating web sites. But these days even the free lancers are much more hardened than they were 10 years ago.

If you are looking for GFE, I recommend south jakarta places like Blok M, Bats, CJ's, dating web sites, shopping malls, etc. The price is higher in south jakarta than the North Jakarta knock shops, but it really just depends what you are looking for. If you are looking for cheap, easy sex with no GFE, North Jakarta is the best area in Jakarta. And it sounds like you got plenty of that! Nothing wrong with that.

Vow, that is a great number. I've never scored more than 2 in a day. I also never use Viagra though. The longest session I had so far was about 2h, with a non pro.

[QUOTE=Master Diver II; 1420739]Generally speaking, if the girl likes you, she will go to great lengths. It varies (as always) as to what she is willing to do; some may not like anal sex, but generally almost anything goes. The whole BBBJ while watching TV also depends on how much the girl likes to do that. The longest I've had was almost 50 minutes. But you really do feel like you are THE MAN. LOL Make the best of what you have and enjoy it while you can.

MD II[/QUOTE]Yes I absolutely agree with that. I always try to be imaginative of what to do with her. Still, I have never made out more than twice with her in one whole afternoon / evening.

I studied the board well before arriving in town, so Mangga Besar and Hotel Travel in particular was the target area.

General observation: I found Indonesian to be exceptionally cleanly relative to the overall low standard of living for most people in Jakarta, in particular compared to Chinese and the quality of sanitary installation in Italy. Bathroom facilities where always clean and there were never any hygiene problem with any of the girls. Club girls are meticulous and even a street pickup will be safe and clean if you check for the basic signs (clean cloths, decent makeup and clean hair).

Day 1. 21:00. 22:30: Hotel Travel.

Location: Mangga Besar VIII Street 21. Google maps finds it. Head straight for the bar area, which has a separate entrance to the left of the Hotel (yes it's actually also Hotel).

The bar it completely safe for foreigners, you won't get hassled or ripped off (unless you get [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] drunk and wave money around, I guess). Prices are the same for everybody. The bar operates as a straight brothel, no hidden services. One hour, blowjob and one fuck. There is no cover charge, when you enter them hand you a customer number against which all drinks are charged. So you walk in, check the girls, have a beer and walk out and pay what you consumed. When you go upstairs you have to pay cash to the Mama-san; she will bring change. Prices for service are published at the bar. Massage is available for 175. 000, room with girl one hour is 325. 000, and better rooms cost more.

The Mama-sans act as waitresses and push the girls. The girls will never approach you, so simply take a seat in the front row and picked on (Mama helps pointing them out with a laser pointer). Most Mama-sans are 40+ fat housewife's (uughh) but there were actually one or two pretty cute 28is ones as well. Would be impolite to ask them upstairs.

Girls available are all local breeds. No "exotics" (Russians, Chinese etc) , those operate at higher prices.

Opening hours: 16:00 till 02:00.

Prices are cleanly broken down if you care to check the screen of the lady at checkout.

Beer: 30. 000.

Cocktail: 71. 000.

Room on hour: 165. 000.

Girl one hour: 150. 000.

Condom: 10. 000 (yes, it is listed as a separate item. They must have the tax auditors check this.)

I tipped the girl 100. 000 and had a Margarita so I came out at 496. 000.

If you choose to select a girl straight, skip the drinks and are a miser you will only pay said 325. 000.

Two girls for one hours will be 475. 000 (will they charge another condom?)

20 customers. 30-40 girls, looked like an all local audience. No other Caucasian customer and I guess no Chinese either.

Selected Yuni, nicely padded. 23 years old form Java. Pretty much no English, nice attitude but very basic service. CBJ and FS. A bit of a massage afterwards. Didn't kiss and didn't want me to DATY. She got the 100K tip for nice attitude. Next time I will ask the Mama-san for a girl who kisses.

Day 2. 21:00. 24:00: Stadium, Kartika and a freelancer.

1) Went to Stadium, looking for freelancers, which of course are not there. All the girls in the disco are on contract with the house. Wasted 90000 on 2 beers.

2) Over to Kartika, my first Thai style Soap from a well shaped 28 year old called Yanti. I asked for a girl that kissed, so I was pleasantly surprised that she accepted DATY as well. 350. 000 for the house and 100. 000 tip. Kartika closes at 23:00 so I found that I could have taken her back to the Hotel, though I guess they only do this if they like the customer. Well maybe tomorrow.

3) While walking to Burger King several non-pros sitting with their friends by the little shops tried to talk me up. Back from Burger King 10min later curiosity made me investigate a pair. A chubby one with a round baby face (my fetish so she got me) , her petite friend hardly 150cm in height and a boy who (jokingly?) was offered to me by said chubby.

Took the chubby back for 1h 300. 000. Good kisser, good fuck, no DATY. 22 years, crazy and impatient and out of the room after 40min but I forgive her for all the rest was excellent. Glodok shop assistant. Got her mobile number.

Day 3. 21:00. 01:00: Malioboro.

Malioboro was actually on the list of places to be ignored. More expensive then necessary at 800. 000 for local girls. 1.200. 000 for Chinese et al and 1. 800. 000 for non Asian beauties.

But Malioboro was high on the list of my local workmates "must see places in Jakarta" so I followed them there after dinner. I wasn't interested in the type of girls there, so nothing happened except a few lap dances. Starting at 50. 000 per lap dance. You buy a "shot" for the girl. Expect to buy 2-10 shots. 100. 000 cover fee. Total cost 250. 000 without alcohol. Malioboro is "upper class" so the girls are almost all young, slim and on average taller than elsewhere (which is the opposite of my fetish). Bar area is large and well lit, there are topless stage dances. A number of Chinese, Korean, Uzbek etc."exotic birds" are available. The local guys make it an ego trip to line them up and pick. Plain massages and a Spa area are also available. When you enter you can go to the locker room to drop your money, keys and empty your pockets. You don't want the girls to hurt themselves during the lap dance.

Day 4. 21:00. 23:00: The freelancer

Called the freelancer from Day 2 to my Hotel. OK again. 600. 000. I tried to strike a private converation despite the language barrier. Found she has a 4 year old child but a broken marriage. Gave her some presents for the kid. She wouldn't stay overnight as she wanted to be home when her little one wakes up and had to go to work in the morning.

Day 5. 22:00. 23:00: The freelancer. Girl drama.

She arrived late as the kid wouldn't sleep. This time I thought about her inviting her petite friend for a threesome, who had been sending her SMS all time asking about her whereabouts. I didn't read the "woman signals" properly though as I discovered too late that she was getting a bit jealous and disappointed that I was leaving Jakarta. When it was time for her to go home she was almost crying and asked me to delete her number. She almost forgot the chocolate I bought for her kid. 400. 000.

Though the week ended in a bit of a gloomy mood and (small) girl drama it was an overall good experience.

[QUOTE=Mtraveller; 1421224]I studied the board well before arriving in town, so Mangga Besar and Hotel Travel in particular was the target area.

Day 1. 21:00. 22:30: Hotel Travel.

Location: Mangga Besar VIII Street 21. Google maps finds it. Head straight for the bar area, which has a separate entrance to the left of the Hotel (yes it's actually also Hotel).

Opening hours: 16:00 till 02:00.[/QUOTE]Correction,

Opening Hours: 1. 30pm till 2am (Daily)

I see a lot of posts about people's exploits here lately, but very few photos.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1421291]I see a lot of posts about people's exploits here lately, but very few photos.[/QUOTE]Completely agree, Smooothy.

I will try and make a contibution during and after my next visit to Indonesia in June.

How about it, felllow members? Has your supply dried up? Some prolific posters have never even managed to upload even a single picture.

Regards,

Ko

Guys,

I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so fucking confusing, so I thought I would pose some questions for you all and would greatly appreciate any response. I am in Jakarta from the 1st July to the 7th July, staying at the Crowne for the first 3days and Mercure for the 2nd 3 days (thought I would get bot the south and north ends of Jakarta in. Anyway, my question is, what places do you recommend I visit? Thanks in advance and will post some feedback during my visit!

Landed here in CGK yesterday morning from SIN. I had enough time so wanted to explore the economical transport options. My hotel is Amaris in Mangga Besar so 25 K by Damri bus took me to Gambir. Spend some time at the war memorial statue. Outside of Gambir railway station took transjakarta bus to Amaris. In total 28. 5 K I reaches my hotel. Reception was excellent allowed me early check in. Went to Lokasari Plaza, managed to visit Cherry, Lokasari spa, Grand Comfort and the rates varies between 300- 500 and only Cherry allows the option to choose girls. The girls in the small shops and phrmacies are interested in talking but mostly knows Bahasa Ind only. Plaza Senayan is a good place to mingle with girls. From there went to Block M and visited D' s Place and TopGun. I was slightly early so went back to Kota area. Went to suncity, seemed like walking in China Town, the Mammy doesn't send girl with me since I am new. Left there, after dinner went to Stadium. Hospitality is good, every Mammy tried to make customers happy by sending girls. The entry fee was 80 K. Actually I feel like most of the girls are in both hooker dress and normal dress are hookers. The Mammy so aggressive to ask me to choose girl, and finally I had to request her not to send any girls to me. While all these things are happening I found a cute girl she was looking at me and smiling sometimes, came to me after some time. She hold me and started kissing and hugging. I was totally impressed by her attitude. In 10 mins finished my drink and went stairs for Chiki Chiki.

No need to explain about what happened in the room. She was awesome! With Lot of DFK, offered BBBJ at shower, CBJ, catbath ball sucking etc. We tried Miss, fwd and reverse cowgirl and cum in Doggy. After the play also she hugged me and kissed. Then I sucked her nipples for the next 10 mins. She was so happy with the 100 K tip. Imo 100 K is good tip in other areas except Batam. I have no restriction from her except anal. I have taken some of her photos sharing here. I have her number, may be I revisit her depends upon what I find in the afternoon today!

Sorry photos will be uploaded once get home, I can't from my Tab.

Thanks / Gajith

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1421542]Guys, I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so fucking confusing, so.

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My question is, what places do you recommend I visit? .[/QUOTE]Hello Farq40, mr first-poster: now you make [b]me [/b]confused. You are already confused by all recommendations and still you want [u]more[/u] recommendations? Do you use confusion like some kind of drug?

My recommendation is: Write all the venue names you already have on small notes, put them in a bowl and shake well, then pick 5.

Or follow the treads of [i]SleepyDog [/i]below.

Or call JAD.

[QUOTE=Farq40; 1421542]Guys,

I have read the boards and there are so many recommendations and it all gets so xxxxing confusing, so I thought I would pose some questions for you all and would greatly appreciate any response. I am in Jakarta from the 1st July to the 7th July, staying at the Crowne for the first 3 days and Mercure for the 2nd 3 days (thought I would get bot the south and north ends of Jakarta in. Anyway, my question is, what places do you recommend I visit? Thanks in advance and will post some feedback during my visit![/QUOTE]It's hard to get excited about helping out a total newbie with only one post (who are you?)

But it's also difficult to give you a definitive answer to your question because you will be in Jakarta just before the start of the fasting month of Ramadan, and many places close a few days ahead of Ramadan, while other places may remain open but with limited availability. Most lower-end spas will be closed a few days ahead of the first day of fasting (July 9 or 10) , with most of the working girls heading back to their home villages for 5 weeks. Other girls may hang around for another week or so but may be more difficult for a newbie to find.

RTFF! And you'll quickly discover that for the northern part of town, try Kartika Spa (and its neighbor Berlian, ask for Ina), Hotel Travel, Hotel Classic or the infamous Stadium (be careful with your wallet / passport / money / etc here). Hotel Malioboro and Hotel Alexis are slightly more expensive but are more likely to be open.

For the southern part of town, try the Maribaya Spa on the 6th floor of Hotel Melawai (which will defintely be closed a few days ahead of Ramadan) , and the many bars on Jalan Falatehan in Blok M. There's numerous posts on all of these places here on ISG.

Just read Shuga's post below and I agree with his final recommendation - cal JAD and you'll be guaranteed to get laid even if every spa in Jakarta is closed by the religious police.