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[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. It’s mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Most of the families you're going to see vacationing around in Colombia are, of course, Colombian. And of course, their voices matter.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Same as Dominican Republic. In DR all the families and couples go to Punta Cana. In Colombia all the families and couples go to Cartagena.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]I haven't seen many gringo tourist families with kids (lots of couples, though) in Colombia, but I have seen a lot of tourist families from other Latin American countries there. And of course families from other parts of Colombia vacationing in places like Medellin and Cartagena.
[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3084956]I haven't seen many gringo tourist families with kids (lots of couples, though) in Colombia, but I have seen a lot of tourist families from other Latin American countries there. And of course families from other parts of Colombia vacationing in places like Medellin and Cartagena.[/QUOTE]Yea, the couples are usually the wannabe hippies. Families from Colombia and other parts of south america don't have spending power that americans do and I think the average monger probably outspends them.
[QUOTE=AlexDeuce;3084852]It squeezes out other tourists, especially families, who spend infinitely more money per head. It's great short-term cash flow, but in the later years, when equity shifts, the hookers and the John's become a nuisance.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "when equity shifts"?
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]They're probably need even getting head.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084960]What do you mean by "when equity shifts"?[/QUOTE]You know how they always say the second owner makes the money in real estate? It's an old adage, but the same shit applies here. They put up with the early years of the note, when a larger portion of the payments goes toward interest. Over the life of the short commercial note, they build equity through principal payments and appreciation. By the time they pay off the note or sell the property, they can be sitting on a cash cow derived from monger income. They let the cash and equity grow to the point where the monger dollar isn't worth the headache anymore. As in Sosúa, the Philippines, Santo Domingo, etc. This shit is rinse and repeat.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]The hell they don't.
What the f— are you spending money on, tricking in the park? The families are eating, buying goods, running up room service, and the parents are drinking at the hotel bars. At most, you're in Gustos buying an overpriced bottle and a ***** they won't see a dime of. Even if the frequency of the visitors is lower, they still make more money overall, or PPA, as one would say in the restaurant business. It's not a guess here.
[QUOTE=Kazeu;3084939]Do families actually go to Colombia? I don't think I've ever seen a family go to Colombia. Its mostly long term mongers, short term mongers, digital nomads and hippie wannabes.[/QUOTE]Go out to some of the tourist places, Guatape, some of the beach areas on the Caribe, higher end hotels in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, etc. There is a huge tourism industry. Not so much in the same areas as mongers hang out, but I think the vast majority of tourist dollars coming in are from that type of tourism, not mongers.
[QUOTE=AmorPorFavor;3084911]They don't spend more than me per head I'm sure of that. Probably the same for many of us mongers.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. I take chicas out to great restaurants in el Poblado & Provenza & we eat good, usually steak, sometimes lobster.
[QUOTE=Zeos1;3084975]Go out to some of the tourist places, Guatape, some of the beach areas on the Caribe, higher end hotels in Bogota, Medellin, Cartagena, etc. There is a huge tourism industry. Not so much in the same areas as mongers hang out, but I think the vast majority of tourist dollars coming in are from that type of tourism, not mongers.[/QUOTE]I've been all over Bogota and stayed at all the nicest hotels the city has to offer. I can confidently say I know the city better than 99% of the mongers on this board and what it has to offer. I've been to Medellin and Cartagena as well, buts its been a while since I've been back. I can believe that local tourism is alive an healthy, who doesn't like to travel? My claim is that wealthy families that would spend a lot of money in Colombia, specifically more money than an average monger would, are *not* coming to Colombia. The original posters claim is that families spend more than mongers per head. I'm saying I don't see a lot of international families. Plenty of domestic and south american families sure.
Think about an average monger weekend warrior coming down. Those are the types that are going to medellin and overpaying for women. They're paying about 100 usd per day + food + drinks + dates and accomodations in the higher priced areas of medellin. Thats assuming 1 chica per day at 100usd per chica. A lot do significantly more than that since they are on a time crunch.
I think you're probably right that due to pure volume other types of tourists are spending in aggregate more than the monger type tourists. But monger are definitely on average spending more per head than those tourists.
I predict the girl situation in Lleras is at an end soon -- Immigration is Taking names and fingerprints.
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[QUOTE=HuskerDude;3084977]Totally agree. I take chicas out to great restaurants in el Poblado & Provenza & we eat good, usually steak, sometimes lobster.[/QUOTE]And you're probably one out 20 and most likely not shopping for puntang in the park.
Solution is simple. Don't go to park lleras or centro. Just stary with other venue casa and clubs. All these are occurring due to exploitation by steaming llera park in various social media. Colombia is not a safe country for solo or family tourism as per state department. This is good in a way.. rates will come down. Medellin places will be only for experienced and risk takers..