Medellin Reports

[QUOTE=Turgid;3088046]Actually $1100. It works out to less than travelling abroad when you consider airfare, hotels, food, etc. Also, I've reached the stage where I don't need to bang every day.[/QUOTE]I also don't need it everyday. I might be out there during a trip everyday hustling, and if it happens it happens, and I'm grateful. And if it doesn't, for whatever reason, then it doesn't. And I'm not bothered. There's always tomorrow! Hell, on long trips I purposely take days off anyway just because I want to. Long ago I lost the need to have to try to "get some" every single day. Sometimes fucking is vastly overrated LOL!

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088041]Oh I've had that happen for sure. Often times they start so far off, it's almost impossible to rein them in.

I've had a few come to me in the 500 k range. I say "2 hrs, sexo natural. 250 k + Uber". And some will say "Vale!" A few come back with 300,350 or 400.

Guys need to quit getting hung up on a particular girl and enjoy the abundance that's there.[/QUOTE]That has generally been my experience with negotiating with Medellin chicas from Tinder as well. Offer them something lower, and maybe half will come back with a price between 350 and 450 (but including oral natural, not sexo natural. I don't usually ask for that, I just take it from the chicas who give it to me freely). Starting earlier this year, I have even been saying things like Mr. E. says, like "uff, tan caro", or "no bueno". That seems to help too.

On very rare occasions I will find one who will agree to as low as 300 or 250. But then there are others who set their starting price very high, and won't even bother negotiating. Some are nice about it, others will reply with something like "LOL, no gracias" and then delete all their messages in the chat. I do tend to go for some of the hottest chicas on there, though.

One chica who I would describe as only cute rather than hot was asking for 700k (she did look quite young and had braces, so maybe she gets a lot of men who are looking for that hitting her up). When I told her that was too expensive, she replied, "Why? It's only around $200 US dollars. That's practically nothing!"

[QUOTE=ChicoBonito;3088076]When I told her that was too expensive, she replied, "Why? It's only around $200 US dollars. That's practically nothing!"[/QUOTE]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3087924]IThat said, next trip, I'll blow some silly money on one of these broads just to say that I did.[/QUOTE]Like the guy that posted he met the girl of his dreams and paid 1 million pesos for the worst experience of his life.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088090]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.[/QUOTE]Going to have to disagree here. The majority of pricing is based on the local market. Theres no way all the weekend millionaires can fuck enough girls to really move the market. I'll bet you that same girl who asks for $200 usd from you fucks 10 of the local colombian for half that. Maybe less. Because there just aren't that enough men who are willing to come to Colombia to pay that much. There are better options.

Just because there exists the saudi princes who fly girls out and pay them 10 k, all the princes in the world couldn't fuck enough girls to really move the market. There's only so much rich dick to go around.

What you're seeing is the high level mark effect, since she got that a few times, that's what she's always going to start asking for. Did you try to bargain with her? All the girls in MDE are $200 usd hookers until rent is due.

Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088041]Guys need to quit getting hung up on a particular girl and enjoy the abundance that's there.[/QUOTE]This is the key. There are so many girls in medellin. Supply far outstrips demand. Most of the weekend millionaires do not realize this.

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Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.[/QUOTE]Absolutely, but if they know you're a foreigner, they are likely to start high and hope you don't know better. Most guys experienced in the hobby have a good idea what they should pay. But there are plenty of guys who don't know better that will pay a ridiculous asking price.

[QUOTE=Kazeu;3088094]What you're seeing is the high level mark effect, since she got that a few times, that's what she's always going to start asking for. Did you try to bargain with her? All the girls in MDE are $200 usd hookers until rent is due.

Just talk to colombians and you'll get an idea of the real pricing.[/QUOTE]I hear you. I don't disagree. Gringo pricing is a real thing and that won't go away.

I have also learned to not underestimate how delulu females are. Someone paid her that in the past, so that's her price anchor for foreigners now. Whether she gets it regularly really isn't part of the equation. As far as she's concerned, she's worth $200 or $300.

I don't bargain for pussy. Either it's the price I ask for, or I move on to the next. I've had too many bad experiences with chicks who thought I was getting over on them for a cheap price.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088123]I hear you. I don't disagree. Gringo pricing is a real thing and that won't go away.[/QUOTE]This isn't gringo pricing. This is STUPID gringo pricing. Some idiot didn't know the market and paid an inflated price. Now the chica leads with the inflated price. It's not the price she'll accept; it's not the price she normally gets. She's just hoping that the next gringo she meets is an idiot like the one that paid the inflated price. But gringo pricing is the normal tax we gringos pay for just about everything in Colombia and we accept it to get along. We should never, ever, ever, accept the STUPID gringo price.

[QUOTE=TheCane;3088047]I also don't need it everyday. I might be out there during a trip everyday hustling, and if it happens it happens, and I'm grateful. And if it doesn't, for whatever reason, then it doesn't. And I'm not bothered. There's always tomorrow! Hell, on long trips I purposely take days off anyway just because I want to. Long ago I lost the need to have to try to "get some" every single day. Sometimes fucking is vastly overrated LOL![/QUOTE]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3088174]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.[/QUOTE]This is why I'm glad Asian women mostly aren't my thing (have fucked some Asian stunners though yes). Asia is so far away that it would be torture! My principal playgrounds are Latin America and Europe, both far more accessible to a traveling gringo.

[QUOTE=CatBert55;3088145]This isn't gringo pricing. This is STUPID gringo pricing. Some idiot didn't know the market and paid an inflated price. Now the chica leads with the inflated price. It's not the price she'll accept; it's not the price she normally gets. She's just hoping that the next gringo she meets is an idiot like the one that paid the inflated price. But gringo pricing is the normal tax we gringos pay for just about everything in Colombia and we accept it to get along. We should never, ever, ever, accept the STUPID gringo price.[/QUOTE]Why ask a chica what she wants, tell her what you always pay. If for no other reason than it tells her you are not a stupid gringo, problem solved.

[QUOTE=ChrisD1680;3088090]Guys have been going down to Meddy and throwing mad money around. The market is forever fucked. Any of these women under 25 are on social media, and are understanding the world a lot more. The days of arbitrage in just about any market are pretty much done.

Thankfully, I don't really go for the hottest chicks. I generally like a cute girl who is grounded, versus a very hot shark. My dick just doesn't get as hard, nor hard as often to properly enjoy that kind of splurge.

My little 20 yo, Vee, came and hung out with me the day before I left. We didn't have sex, but we had lunch at Unicentro, went and bought souvenirs, and just generally enjoyed the time. Saw her leering through the window of a bookstore, so I asked if she wanted to go in, and her eyes lit up. All she wanted was a cookbook for dessert recipes. Love how cute and chill she is.

This is a rare kind of chica on a dating app in Medellin, though. Maybe 1 in 20 based on my own experience. She's not Paisa, which is probably part of that.[/QUOTE]The market is only fucked if we let be fucked. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it, don't ask these broads how much they charge tell them what you pay and walk if they don't agree. We gringos have the money in our pockets hence the power to control the pricing because Colombians sure don't pay it. I live in Manizales and the pricing is much different, I pay a lot less than Medellin for top shelf but I live here. I recently had conversations with two Colombians and they told me that I was paying double what I should be paying so do the math, same formula for Medellin with different numbers.

[QUOTE=Manizales911;3088179]The market is only fucked if we let it be fucked. We gringos have the money in our pockets hence the power to control the pricing because Colombians sure don't pay it. I recently had conversations with two Colombians and they told me that I was paying double what I should be paying.[/QUOTE]That says to me that you aren't practicing what you preach. If you're a gringo paying double in Manizales, then you're contributing to that market getting fucked. Well, maybe not since it's a place that hasn't been infested with gringos (yet), and one guy won't fuck up an entire hoor market by himself by overpaying. But at the very least, you're getting yourself fucked in a way you don't want to be. Paying double! Now that you have this knowledge, what are you going to do about it? If you continue to pay double, you're the one getting fucked over.

[QUOTE=Exoticspirit;3088174]I agree with you gents. As I get older I don't need to pop daily either. But in some ways this makes a stay in MDE (and many other places in Latin America) a bit challenging because for me in MDE, once you've already seen Comuna 13, Parque Arvi, gone to Guatape, there's nothing else really in the city that interests me so risk of boredom sets in. Sure I can take walks, check out the food scene and all that but heck, I can do those things at home too, plus the food scene in Latin America (with Peru as the exception) isn't that great anyway. I've been finding that Latin America is a big contrast to Asia where even when I'm not mongering, there are tons of things in Asia that can keep me busy. So an extended stay in Asia for me is way easier than one in Latin America which is kind of unfortunate for me since like many of you, getting to Latin America is a lot easier than flying halfway around the world to Asia.[/QUOTE]Kind of what I was saying before. Medellin isn't a great tourism spot. You can spend maybe a weekend there. Then you're kinda just stuck. Now they are trying to "catch" mongers in parque lleras. So stupid. I would never want to stay in Poblado if it weren't for the attraction of parque lleras. Too damn hilly. Not really walkable. I have a feeling all those airbnbs are going to suffer in the future.