Rio de Janeiro Reports

For some reason I had never been to terma Cancun. This would have to be remedied today. I entered around 6 or so, and really enjoyed the American top-40 music they played at somewhat moderate volume level. The lighting in the boite was slightly too dark in the boite for my taste, though. Also, at 7 a life band played at considerably higher volume, and in the end they switched to funk at high volume. Not good for having conversations. Oh well.

Cancun is a bit more expensive than 4x4. But on Fridays they have a nice deal in that your first R50 in consumption are taken off your bill. By the time my buddy Travelerb69 showed up at it was around 10. I had just decided on my final selection of a girl for the evening, Emily. She is fair-skinned and blond. She was also dancing up a storm to the tunes of the Brazilian rhythms that the band produced. And she smiled a lot and spoke a little English. She also passed the audition with flying colors. Very enjoyable session, too. She gave me her phone number and wanted to come over to my hotel later. She is 27, has no kids; so she could stay out late. But I didn't call. I was in town for too short to start something more serious with her. I am a safado, but even I have my limits. She is simply to nice a girl to lead her on, f*ck her the whole night for free, and then skip town a day later.

Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.

Here is the newest addition of the continuing saga of Euro100 in the Rio sex candy store.

My regular Rio-mongering buddy Travelerb69 was also in town, and we agreed to hunt together again. The plan was to kick it off by meeting at 4x4 at 3:30 in the afternoon. I walked the few blocks from my hotel to the terma, but had overestimated the time it would take to do so. Therefore I was showered, shaved, and robed in the terma at 3:15. I sat down next to the stripper stage. Fany spotted me right away. At about 3:17 she was on the stage and dancing for me. When her top came off, I knew there was no escape for me. And so did she, of course. She just had this amused grin on her face and her eyes locked into mine during the whole strip. The predator (her) was playing with the prey (me). The strip lasted one song only, and at 3:20 Fany was on my lap and her tongue halfway down my throat. The only question remaining was now if I could postpone heading to the room until after my wingman would arrive. Nope! At 3:40 there was still no sing of my buddy and Fany had me horny as hell.

In my book the hour at 4x4 is still the best deal in the upscale terma landscape. And one hour with Fany is heaven. But this time she was in a special mood. With me she likes to start the session in cowgirl with dry-humping. This time she grabbed my index finger while doing this, put lube on it, and made me insert the finger into her culo. After about 35 minutes I already had popped twice, but Fany was still not done with me. I tried to retreat to the shower and rinse off. She let me, but when I came out and tried to dry off, she dragged me onto the bed and sucked the living daylights out of little euro. As great as this is, you have to remember that this was my first session after merging from sex prison, and that I was not properly 'warmed up'. Somebody recently posted that this is like getting calluses on your hands, if you try to hit a lot of golf balls after not touching your clubs for a long time. Well this was like major abuse of the clubs, resulting in shaft bending (literally, actually, as couple of times) , and hitting balls until the groves on the clubface wear out. I knew already that there was no way that I could have another session that night.

Back in the boite I spent some more time with Fany. This afterglow stuff is one of the things I really really love about the terma experience. Then my buddy showed up, and the night was saved. (He had showed up at 3:45, figured correctly where I might be, and had then also taken a session.)

We left 4x4 around 9, had dinner. Then we got a text from Bubba Boy, telling us he was heading to 502. We joined him and his buddy there. The other three guys sessioned, but I had to pass. It was 11, and I headed back to the hotel. (Fany had just worn me down.) In passing I might mention that 502 has now raised its prices almost to 4x4 levels. The 1-hour session now is R190, which is too steep for this place. I will take 502 off my list for a while.

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy; 1194020]Cartman's favourite line for when dealing with a GDP is Question: "how do you know a GDP is lying" Answer: "her lips are moving". IE just can't believe anything they say.

Background:

I like to give most girls the benefit of the doubt. I like to have mini relationships with them, in that they can come over a couple of days a week, maybe get the odd perfume as a gift, taken out to nice restaurants etc but no cash. I am picky with the girls I like to have these mini relationships with. They generally must be new to the industry so they are not too hard core and generally be doing something with their lives. Students that work at prives with no kids are the best for this. Preferably that don't live at home. I really screen the hell out of them because I really don't want hassles where I live. I have actually have never had anything stolen from me in 8 years of visiting / living in Brazil. So I guess screening is the best prevention.

The Story:

I won't send her another message but am thinking will get something from her in a week or so, will be interesting to see what she says."to be continued"[/QUOTE]Very interested in this story BB. I have something going on with an ex-Termas girl and I am trying to get into this Puta's head and figure her out. She says she is not working anymore and has a "normal" job where she works long hours and makes little money. I have asked if she has a namarodo and how can someone so beautiful be single. She dodges the questions. I am cool with this due to my personal situation (that I have not owned up to either) but I just want to hae some laughs and have a night of great sex and suedo romance for less $$$. I do not mind 2nd fiddle as long as I get to play!

On another note, when it comes to GDP's and theft.

I met two Americano Mongers that are ex-pats at the Balconi. They go there several times a week and often take hme GDPs. They are friends with the owner of the Balconi (they pointed out his GF. Nt very attractive). Anyway, They have never experienced any serious theft. They said "Oh yeah, after we get to know them little things end up missing. More like borrowing. But never anything serious." Sounded like there had been upteen years worth of hobbying. Maybe it is the fact that they ae not touristas.

[QUOTE=Euro100; 1194160]Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.[/QUOTE]Obrigado! Nice reports. Please compile to RODs when you wrap up!

Praca Bandeira bus stop, or Francisco Eugenio on the north side? By subway you mean Sao Cristavao station? I think most of us are coming in from the south, the way shown on Sperto's treasure map.

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What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?
When you make a comparison to VM, I start thinking about covered BJs and lackadaisical fucks..rsrs

[QUOTE=Bubba Boy;1194020]When we finally hook up I basically say, look I have been around the block a few times, I know you still are seeing your boyfriend and that's cool. Just don't lie to me, I m happy just seeing you occasionally and see what works out with your boyfriend but just don't lie to me. I tell her how I know she is still with him, it is very very hard to deny proof like this, but she sticks to her lies (I have 100% proof she is still seeing him but guard this at this time). At this point I have basically decided she is not trustworthy enough to come over anymore so I just play it cool, shoot my load in her mouth and make my way home. She sends me a text msg saying how concerned she is that I think that she is lying and that really she is telling the truth. I just couldn't take it anymore, I send her the last little bit of proof I had been guarding via text. It was the knock out blow. 100% proof she had been caught in her lie. No reply to the text, nothing and this was 3 days ago. I won't send her another message but am thinking will get something from her in a week or so, will be interesting to see what she says."to be continued"[/QUOTE]Think you handled this just about right but maybe you should have held on to your winning hand a little longer. Women in general are pretty irrational about these things, and then when you add brazilian women and in particular brazilian gdps, well now you've entered the twilight zone, LOL! Your victory over her becomes a pointless one because she probably feels you humiliated her or manipulated her on purpose. Not to mention she now knows you have ways of spying / keeping tabs on her while she may not, yet, have that kind of leverage on you. That either freaked her out or pissed her off or both.

When you combine your status as foreigner / ex-pat / non-brazilian (not sure about your status but that's my guess) with the fact you met her in a p4p venue (thus making you a foreign puteiro, the "worst of the worst") she probably feels she doesn't have to give you much loyalty, respect, honesty. I wouldn't waste a lot of energy fighting these perceptions. It is what it is, just go with the flow and enjoy what you can with these chicas.

I have more of a libertine kind of philosophy so these kinds of issues are not such a big deal to me (loyalty and honesty from a part-time, full-time, or ex-hooker? I mean, come on, LOL!). Let them have their lies, let them even think they're getting the better part of the deal. I usually just tell these girls I believe in "liberdade e felicidade para voce e tambem para mim" and if they have a problem with that "buscar outro homem." The problem here is the natural jealousy and possessiveness of these chicas, that's why I don't demand / require the full honesty thing anymore, the chicas can't handle that (very few women can actually, whether they're p4p or civvies).

So I used to believe (like you) in the need for more honesty but my motto now is more like "liberdade e privacidade." Your average brazilian gdp has an almost pathological need for distrust, jealousy, deception, et al, in their lives; or maybe it's just a cultural thing of the estrangeiro respecting the gdp's "privacy". Or it could be a woman thing: to cede that much honesty and trust to a man, especially if he's a foreign monger, is seen as foolish, dangerous, putting her in the weaker position, etc. I think it's sexist outdated nonsense but there's probably still a bit of a double-standard about a man's fidelity / honesty valued less than a woman's (thus, you requiring more honesty from her would seem an unfair deal to her, you're giving up less than she is; like I said, sexist but still very common thinking).

Whatever it is, I would just back off and let her have her thing with her bf (a local who shares language / culture / upbringing brings things to the table we can't, like hanging out with him and not standing out like a sore thumb) as long as she doesn't mistreat you on days you spend together (I'd say being more than one hour late means time to start scooping out other fish in the barrel).

If I were you, if there's an event that interests you, I'd just call her up in a week or two and ask her if she wants to go. If she mentions anything just say no hard feelings, e nada. Give the impression that this was something you didn't even really care all that much about, as long as you can pop in her mouth in the post-date aftermath, heh, heh.

[QUOTE=Puta Playa; 1194283]Obrigado! Nice reports. Please compile to RODs when you wrap up!

Praca Bandeira bus stop, or Francisco Eugenio on the north side? By subway you mean Sao Cristavao station? I think most of us are coming in from the south, the way shown on Sperto's treasure map.

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What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?

When you make a comparison to VM, I start thinking about covered BJs and lackadaisical fucks. Rsrs[/QUOTE]Yes, coming from the south, from the Praca Bandeira bus stop or the metro. That's the only way to walk past the biker bar toward VM that I know of. With my apologies to Sperto, I made a copy of his map and put in the location of Masaico.

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5 years ago 502 was great. The service was up to 4x4 levels, but the girls were just a notch below 4x4. The whole place has basically not changed a bit since then. The only different to now is price. Back then I got a really great 40-minute session for R70, if I remember correctly. And now they are more than twice as expensive, but giving you still the very same thing.

The BJ from Gabi was BB, and the service very good. Culo was on the menu, but I did not take her up on it. (I am not into anal; the only exception I made on this trip was for Fani, well, because she demanded it.) Forget my VM reference and check it out yourself.

Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Rio (and Sao Paulo) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 whyear old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which 5 termas and / or clinica / massage provides the biggers and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that stunners can be found (English speaking non-pros, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Aibolit

[QUOTE=Puta Playa;1194283]What is meant by 502, 5 years ago? I am wondering about the level of service. T502 is excellent service for me now. What about 5 years ago, how was it?[/QUOTE]I looked for a while, because I wanted to remind myself how 502 was. It took some time, but here is an old post of mine that describes the place: [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3004-2006-Rio-de-Janeiro-Reports&p=502251#post502251[/url]

[QUOTE=Euro100;1194160]Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.[/QUOTE]Sorry, you say "MV" and then "VM." Is Mosaico (which is actually also the name of Globo's internet fund, fun times) near MV (30) or are you saying it is near Villa Mimosa (VM)? And if it's the latter, you really felt OK heading out there at 1 in the morning? I am just going to be really surprised if there is hot Terma talent hanging out "after hours" at this type of place. Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

Anyway, any more details would be appreciated. Is it covered on gpguia?

-Cartman

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1194385]Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Rio (and Sao Paulo) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 whyear old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which 5 termas and / or clinica / massage provides the biggers and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that stunners can be found (English speaking non-pros, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Aibolit[/QUOTE]1. You will see a lot of big bundas, regardless. I'd suggest 4x4 for sheer quantity: some you like mixed in with a lot of big asses you don't. Or L'Uomo in Copacabana. Or try the websites of some of the privates (per Sperto's list) to see if any bodytypes catch your eye.

2. Shrug I'd get to 4x4 before 5pm for the free entrada if you have time. Or privates at 11am. Or higher end T's any time after 7 (or before 7 to catch the free entrada at L'Uomo I think).

3. Stunners is a matter of taste. On a short-trip you won't find English speaking non-pros lmao. Though I suppose you could throw yourself into a Friday night in Lapa and talk up strangers. Without speaking Portuguese you are really limiting your options. The girls in Zona Sul T's will have the most chance of speaking English, you may find a few in Centro.

Now don't be a tool and you can thank us by writing up your experiences in as much detail as you can muster.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1194397]Sorry, you say "MV" and then "VM." Is Mosaico (which is actually also the name of Globo's internet fund, fun times) near MV (30) or are you saying it is near Villa Mimosa (VM)? And if it's the latter, you really felt OK heading out there at 1 in the morning? I am just going to be really surprised if there is hot Terma talent hanging out "after hours" at this type of place. Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

Anyway, any more details would be appreciated. Is it covered on gpguia?

-Cartman[/QUOTE]Yes, VM. Sorry. Below I also posted a map with the exact location of this place.

Safety: I feel completely safe in that area at 1 am, safer than at the beach in Copacabana. There are tons of people on the street there at that time, and also at 3 am. Many teenagers, who just want to party, too. The biker bar is also just a place where regular people hang out. Nothing scary. Even inside VM I do not sense any danger. There is even some level of police presence. Of course one has to follow certain precautions to make oneself not an easy target, as almost anywhere. I have walked to VM from the bus stop about three times, and we have taken the car there another three times. Never an incident.

More details on Mosaico: There is a bouncer sitting on a bar stool outside and he hands you either a plastic card (Friday) or a score sheet (Saturday) to keep tabs of your tab. You enter through the glass door under the awning, and to your right is the (only) bar. It is also the only fairly well lit location in the whole joint. So if you want to get a look at your girl before committing, I suggest you take her to the bar and buy her a drink. Also on the right and next to the bar is a wall with a long vinyl-covered beach with three small tables; good for hanging out at the least possible sound level. To your left as you enter you see a flight of stair. The cabinas are up there. Under the stairs you cross into the main boite. Bring ear plugs! The boite is about 10 m by 10 m in size and has a stripper stage with pole on the far side. I think there are two wide steps that lead from the foyer into the boite, and lost of people seem to always stand right there. The boite has seat all along the wall, except for the right corner, where the DJ booth is. The lights consist of a green laser hitting a mirror ball and a few black-lights. In other words, it is very dark in the boite. If you do not go left into the boite, but head straight on from the foyer, you pass a both with bullet-proof glass, where you settle your tab in the end, and where you pay for the girl and room, and finally the bathroom.

I did too little exploring upstairs to know how many room they have. My 40-minute room had a wide bed (not like L'uomo!) with real sheets, which get changed between sessions. Unfortunately, no dimmer. So we had the choice of either humping in total pitch-black darkness, or having the proceedings illuminated by a single while 60W bulb. However, we passed also by a nicer room with a shower, which is used for the 60 minute sessions. My guess is that they have somewhere between 5 and 10 rooms avaiable.

On Friday there were at least 15 girls there; three or four of them were quite doable for me, and perhaps I should not have jumped so quickly on Gabi. Keep in mind that is very dark in the boite; so I did not even get a good look at half of the girls. Also, the rooms were in short supply on Friday night, and Gaby and I had to wait for about 30 minutes. She insisted to grind her bunda into me during that time right under one of the ceiling mounted loudspeakers. I probably got some hearing loss as a result.

Is it covered on gpguia? I really don't know, because I have never even been to that forum. My Portuguese is not worth shit, and it would be a complete waste of my time to try.

[QUOTE=Eric Cartman; 1194397]Most of the Terma girls I know head home at 12 or 1 for their 1-2 hr trip back to Nova Iguazu or wherever.

-Cartman[/QUOTE]FWIW, I've noticed that many girls tend to arrive at Club Florida around 1 am. These girls are apparently coming there from the Centro termas. They normally look better than the Club Florida regular girls that you'll find earlier in the night.

[QUOTE=Aibolit; 1194385]Gentlemen,

I greatly enjoyed reading many of the valuable stories of the esteemed members of this forum. I'm heading to Rio (and Sao Paulo) soon. Sadly, I speak zero Porto. I wonder, if any of you will consider addressing my few simple questions below. Your wisdom will be breatly appreciated:

1. I always prefer young, slim, model-looking skinny girls. Big bundas and the ladies that are over 25 whyear old are just not for me. I also prefer light-skinned girls on most occasions. While I understand that gems can be found almost everywhere, I don't have too much time to look. So, I wonder which 5 termas and / or clinica / massage provides the biggers and surerest selection of young slim stunners with zero flabbiness on their legs, butt, belly, etc?

2. What are the best times of the day to visit the places you suggest? What type of rooms are advisable to use there with the girl?

3. Any other places, aside the ones mentioned above that stunners can be found (English speaking non-pros, perhaps).

Many thanks in advance for your insights!

Aibolit[/QUOTE]If you do not speak Portuguese, then perhaps you should restrict yourself to the termas. You will on average have much better luck finding some English-speaking girls in the Copa termas. Assuming that price does not matter, then I would suggest (in that order) : Centaurus, Monte Carlo, L'uomo (all in Zona Sul) .4x4, and finally Cancun (both in Centro). Most of them are good to visit from around 4 pm and stay open until midnight or 1 am. They can get very busy already starting at 5 or 6 pm. (BTW, the free early entrance deal at L'uomo does no longer exist! We asked.) The centro termas are closed on the weekend, and on Sunday your only option is L'uomo. Rooms: ummm, if price is no consideration, then always go for the super suite. I would, however, recommend against this. After all, you are not there to admire the furniture. Generally. 1 hour sessions are preferable to 40 minute sessions, and what you select in terms of length will determine what room you get. The room is the last thing you need to worry about.

Non-pros: perhaps the higher-class bars in Ipanema, or the university. But in my opinion you are wasting precious time trying to go that route. Pros are pros for a reason, just like a golf pro is better at gold than the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Euro100;1194160]Instead, Travelerb69 and I had another target lined up for the night. We left Cancun around 1 and headed for Mosaico. (Note that this is new intel; this place has not been reported on in this forum.) Mosaico is a terma, but only in name, sort of like 502. You leave your clothes on. It really only gets going around midnight, but supposedly it stays open until the sun comes up. Rumor has it that regular terma girls, who have not made their money target for the night, go there after hours for a little additional income. Where is Mosaico? Pretend you are going to MV and walk from where the bus or subway drops off past the biker bar. Just as you round the corner and turn into the street where VM is, there is on the right first a place where a lot of young people hang out, and then the next place has a black awning and a small patio, which is tiled in black and white squares. This is it.

We entered, got a plastic card with a number on it (to charge your drinks to your tab) , and we were told that the entrance was R20 and included 3 beers. The place has some of the rowdiness of VM, the funk music is deafeningly loud, and the lights are very dim. Not everybody's taste, I realize, but treasures can be had here. In the first hour we were there we saw 3 strip shows, and several other girls were grinding their bundas in the area around the stage. My eyes fell on a bleached blonde, Gabi, and I decided I had to give here a test drive. 40 minutes are R90, which is not bad. We actually had to wait another half hour before a room became available. By VM standards the rooms this place are sparkling clean. You have fresh sheets (stained, though) , a fairly large bed, and a real lock on the door. The hour-session rooms even have a shower. Gabi was not much to report on, but I just took one for the team.

Bottom line: Masoico is about like 502 was 5 years ago. Since it is open late, this can be a valuable option in your list of mongering targets.[/QUOTE]
Nice reports, Euro.

Mosaico opened a few years ago. It was a gringo (german guy) that opened the place (I don't know if he still is the owner). A kind of upscale VM-casa. He stirred up quite some angry emotions in Vila Mimosa when he opened his place. The reasons were several; he was a gringo, he opened the casa without permission from the Associação da Vila Mimosa, the casa was more "sofisticated" than the other VM-casas and he charged higher prices than other casas in VM. I boycotted the place as I considered it just as a overcharging VM-casa.

I had several girls in VM that used to work at Mosaico. They all left and went back to the ordinary VM-casas because of the lack of customers at Mosaico.

After reading Euro's report I might give Mosaico a try.

[QUOTE=Phunluv; 1194289]Think you handled this just about right but maybe you should have held on to your winning hand a little longer. Women in general are pretty irrational about these things, and then when you add brazilian women and in particular brazilian gdps, well now you've entered the twilight zone, LOL! Your victory over her becomes a pointless one because she probably feels you humiliated her or manipulated her on purpose. Not to mention she now knows you have ways of spying / keeping tabs on her while she may not, yet, have that kind of leverage on you. That either freaked her out or pissed her off or both.

When you combine your status as foreigner / ex-pat / non-brazilian (not sure about your status but that's my guess) with the fact you met her in a p4p venue (thus making you a foreign puteiro, the "worst of the worst") she probably feels she doesn't have to give you much loyalty, respect, honesty. I wouldn't waste a lot of energy fighting these perceptions. It is what it is, just go with the flow and enjoy what you can with these chicas.

I have more of a libertine kind of philosophy so these kinds of issues are not such a big deal to me (loyalty and honesty from a part-time, full-time, or ex-hooker? I mean, come on, LOL!). Let them have their lies, let them even think they're getting the better part of the deal. I usually just tell these girls I believe in "liberdade e felicidade para voce e tambem para mim" and if they have a problem with that "buscar outro homem." The problem here is the natural jealousy and possessiveness of these chicas, that's why I don't demand / require the full honesty thing anymore, the chicas can't handle that (very few women can actually, whether they're p4p or civvies).

So I used to believe (like you) in the need for more honesty but my motto now is more like "liberdade e privacidade." Your average brazilian gdp has an almost pathological need for distrust, jealousy, deception, et al, in their lives; or maybe it's just a cultural thing of the estrangeiro respecting the gdp's "privacy". Or it could be a woman thing: to cede that much honesty and trust to a man, especially if he's a foreign monger, is seen as foolish, dangerous, putting her in the weaker position, etc. I think it's sexist outdated nonsense but there's probably still a bit of a double-standard about a man's fidelity / honesty valued less than a woman's (thus, you requiring more honesty from her would seem an unfair deal to her, you're giving up less than she is; like I said, sexist but still very common thinking).

Whatever it is, I would just back off and let her have her thing with her bf (a local who shares language / culture / upbringing brings things to the table we can't, like hanging out with him and not standing out like a sore thumb) as long as she doesn't mistreat you on days you spend together (I'd say being more than one hour late means time to start scooping out other fish in the barrel).

If I were you, if there's an event that interests you, I'd just call her up in a week or two and ask her if she wants to go. If she mentions anything just say no hard feelings, e nada. Give the impression that this was something you didn't even really care all that much about, as long as you can pop in her mouth in the post-date aftermath, heh, heh.[/QUOTE]I have been around a ton of GDP's, surprisingly they don't all lie. Sure, they may bang other guys discretely etc, I bang other girls discretely so I don't have a huge problem with this. I never say that I am only with them, I avoid any of their questions in this regard rather than lie. I have had a few relationships with GDP's which have been pretty cool. Once I see a GDP just constantly lying, it is time to cut them free. They tend to just cause headache after headache. The particular GDP in my "musing", I won't see anymore, maybe bang her in the prive in that she works if there is nothing else there, but I will be very wary about her coming over anymore. There are tons of girls available to call over rather than a known trouble maker. Basically I have cut her out, the last little dig was childish on my part, but every now and again it is worthwhile to call them out on their crap. I mentioned that it will be interesting to see what she will say to me next time our paths cross, but only from a interest point of view. Don't really care what she says really.