Bogota Reports

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362172]Are you serious? Are you really bragging about this? This is how you treat a "friend"?[/QUOTE]I am plenty of people's friend; I am nobody's bank. There is a difference. You however, after being someone's bank, is saying how terrible an entire nationality is. I should be the one asking if YOU are serious.

[QUOTE=Elvis 2008;2362373][b] I was concerned about losing my gal to another guy[/b]: a guy with rip roaring abs or one [b] who gave her more cash.[/b][/QUOTE] I guess you still don't know what the Beetles were singing of when they said that money can't buy me love.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;2360037]Spot on from JjBee. Listen up to all your "hopeless romantics", first I must admit that I too use to fall into this category but here in Colombia the very best advice that I can give anyone is do NOT take anything or anyone serious, especially the chicas. I will be the first to admit that I had to learn this life lesson.

I don't give a shit how well they fuck you in bed or how they can look into your eyes and your feeling that they are touching your soul, how when they tell you that "age difference does not matter" or how they treat you when around in public. Enjoy it ABSOLUTELY but never take anything serious.

I know it is difficult but please follow this advice. I can spend days detailing real experiences that I have had and some ongoing, hell just twice in the past 2 days with 2 different paisas proclaiming their undying love and devotion to me and guess what? Yep this same chicas are some of the girls that some of you think is all into you..[/QUOTE]Your mailbox is full. Did you make it to Cucuta? And any idea how to motivate / pay bus fare (for a vnz girl and know if she will show up?

How's the scene in Santa Fe and Chapinero on Sunday and Monday night?

Going next week but only have time those nights, 9/1 and 9/2.

Santa Fe is always better not alone, so looking for a wingman. I want to try la 49 as well given the recent good reports.

I'm young and like to party / drink, I'm fluent in Spanish.

Hit me up if I'm Bogota those dates.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2362424]I am plenty of people's friend; I am nobody's bank. There is a difference. You however, after being someone's bank, is saying how terrible an entire nationality is. I should be the one asking if YOU are serious.

I guess you still don't know what the Beetles were singing of when they said that money can't buy me love.[/QUOTE]If you can lose a girl to a guy with a better body, or more money, you never had her in the first place.

The whole "all Venezuelans" stuff is pure garbage.

I haven't had experience with all Venezuelans yet. I guess I have some catching up to do. I did have experience with 1 Venezuelan. The first 2 times I was trying her out as a webcam model. She had potential. If she'd known some English, she would have done well. The third meeting with her she said she didn't want to do the webcam, but she would be happy to earn the money making it up to me. We spent about 2 hours just talking, working into a bit of foreplay, which became an excellent, long session. If I wasn't busy with everything else, I'd have gotten around to a few more dates.

Plenty of time went by and she hit me on Whatsapp. Chatted a bit. Told her my current situation, she told me hers. After that she checked in a few more times. Never asked for anything, never mentioned any problems.

Hit her up again in June, to let her know I'd be back in July. She was in Venezuela, but hoping to get back to Medellin before I arrived. No request for money, no sob story. Told me what she was working on and that was all. Once I was on the ground I checked in again and learned she hoped to be in Medellin while I was there.

She arrived, let me know and we set up a date to see a movie. I paid for a coffee. I offered to pay for a beer, she declined. I paid for the movie and I had my taxi drop her where she's staying, on my way home.

The next day she called to ask for a favor. I was expecting she would finally ask for money. Instead, she asked if she could use the apartment to take some pictures. She showed up, paid her own taxi and I took some pics and video of her. We chatted for a while. I wasn't feeling a strong urge to get her into bed, she wasn't feeling it either, so I walked her out, flagged down a taxi and said goodbye.

We're still in contact. When I return, we'll probably get together again. Maybe another movie, maybe dinner, or maybe she'll be spending the night with me. The one thing I'm certain she won't do is turn into a gold digger.

She also seems to have had no problems learning capitalism. She's been paying her own way. When I met her for the movie I had to wait while she bought a new Samsung A50 at the Claro store. She even offered to pay for the coffee.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362499]If you can lose a girl to a guy with a better body, or more money, you never had her in the first place..[/QUOTE]Are you really quoting a guy who misquoted me? Seriously? Don't let the fact that I didn't lose the girl to a guy with more money or a better body get in the way of your opinion though.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362499]The whole "all Venezuelans" stuff is pure garbage.

I haven't had experience with all Venezuelans yet. [/QUOTE]Then why would you post anything else?

Let me ask you and ME this question then given your incredible "knowledge" on Venezuela.

Venezuela has larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia so why is Saudi Arabia a rich country and Venezuela a poor one?

[QUOTE=Santrago;2362467]How's the scene in Santa Fe and Chapinero on Sunday and Monday night?

Going next week but only have time those nights, 9/1 and 9/2.

Santa Fe is always better not alone, so looking for a wingman. I want to try la 49 as well given the recent good reports.[/QUOTE]I have been hanging out with an ISG member, a cool guy. Maybe he will reach out to you like he did me. It was fun having a wing man, but I don't think Santa Fe is all that dangerous. I met up with Woodman one night. He is a great guy and gave me the lay of the land. I have been 4 X: once during the day by myself, once with Woodman, and twice with the other guy from ISG. I was with two girls from the street who were standing in front of the hotels. They were young, and they were okay. They didn't really know how to give head all that well and I negotiated oral without for 50 k with each of them.

I have been with Asakira twice. She is a 21 year old Venezuelan stripper who I think is at least a 9 and moves like a 10. I did TLN for $100 with her one night in my hotel. I saw her back at Troya and went upstairs with her. The sex was again unfucking real, and this time I paid around 70 k or $20.

After being with Asakira and talking to Woodman and the ISG member, I really saw no reason to go to any of the Chaperino spa places, casas, or high end clubs. It seems like a complete waste of money.

Routard's guide to Colombia is one of the best pieces I have seen written on this site, and I have read it two or three times. He did a great service to the forum with his guide.

We headed out to the clubs he mentioned in primer de mayo, and I don't think either of us were all that impressed. There were much more aggressive men pushing you into the clubs than in the Santa Fe area, and while the female: male ratio on a Saturday night was way better than Santa Fe, the prices weren't all that great. We were quoted 40 k for a show or lap dance, 100 k, and were told by one girl that she doesn't do shows. In Santa Fe, I paid 20 and 25 k for shows. Maybe if you found a great gal in primer de mayo, it would be worth going to, but I thought Santa Fe was safer, cheaper, and better.

I have been using Colombian Cupid, Latin American Cupid, and seeking arrangement to find regular women or semi-pros and it has been a lot of work, but it has yielded some very pleasant experiences. If you want GFE+++, that is the way to go.

When I was here and in Medellin a decade or so ago, I wasn't that impressed. The Colombian women appeared to be very scared, and I couldn't for the life of me get any one of them to kiss, give BBBJ or do GFE+++. I think what has changed at least for me has been using the google translator. Even though I only speak a little Spanish, I have been able to communicate with these women using GT with no problem at all, and that fear is gone. I can see why guys are so crazy for Colombian women now. They are really tender, loving, sweet, and good hearted. I still think the Brazilians overall perform better, but the Colombian women have made me feel much more special. They love to please their man.

Yeah, there are the idiot foreigners who have way overpaid some women and once a woman is paid a ton one time, she thinks that she is worth that from then on. I had one woman who wanted $300 for an hour, one who wanted $500 a day and went down to $400, and finally, an English speaking Colombian who wanted $700 for a whole day. I couldn't believe the women asked for this much and there are guys out there dumb enough to pay it.

I came to Colombia to find an intimate, sugar baby type relationship with a woman who has the potential to grow into more than that. I was hoping to find one prospect, and I have found three so far, and the trip is only half over.

I also found an amazing 19 year old swimsuit model who is kind of half of a sugar baby. I really don't know what term to use for a woman who fucks for money but won't fuck just anybody for money. The best I could come up with is sugar baby escort. Anyway, I invited her to Cancun and asked if she could find one of her modeling friends to come with her for a friend of mine. She was thrilled with the suggestion. She sent a picture of her friend and I asked that she bring her along the next time we met. She asked me, "Oh, you want to do a threesome?" That wasn't my intention but I wasn't going to say no.

It has been an amazing trip for me, and all I can say is God bless Colombia. If you can't have fun here, I am not sure you can have fun anywhere.

Well you're making me want to take this trip to Bogota.

Really enjoyed the write up.

Hope I can get this success like you did.

Maybe I can meet up you some time next month.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362373]YK,

I get you guys are trying to be helpful, but the cynicism you and me show towards women is pretty incredible. I don't regret my relationship with my fiance it all. There is something to be said for wanting to lay in her arms all night versus just fuck, the special way a woman in love looks at you. I have been cynical too. I didn't think I could fall in love again, didn't think it was in me to want to be monogamous with someone again, but I did. We were together for 2 years. What broke us up was that she didn't understand how free markets were. This company she "worked" for was very slick, but that is all they were, and she, being from a socialist country, fell for a multilevel marketing scheme that I doubt she would have fell for if she lived in a capitalist country. People from Venezuela are different because of what they have been told, what they have seen, and you can talk to the average Colombian about Venezuelans, and they will share their views which are practically identical to mine.

It's different than when the USSR fell and Russian women stormed the scene in the late 1990's. Those women were kept in the dark, but it is similar in that Venezuelans have to learn the rules of capitalism. They come from a country where they see people eating out of the trash, leaders who derided capitalism but stuffed their pockets full of cash. The American Dream doesn't exist in Venezuela. If you work hard, had a long term perspective, and provided solutions in the market place, you were a sucker. The government would steal you blind..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362499]

The whole "all Venezuelans" stuff is pure garbage.[/QUOTE]Haha, no doubt about it.

Obviously can't lump all people from a country in one basket.

As of lately, the coolest girls I'm meeting in Colombia are the Venezuelans.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362651]I really don't know what term to use for a woman who fucks for money but won't fuck just anybody for money. [/QUOTE]A liar. That's what you call her when she tells you she's exclusive or selective. They're not. Unless you're completely repulsive they'll do you and just charge more.

Took a stroll down Santa Fe during daylight and the amount of women there is insane. All young hotties all over average price is 25,000 to 30,000 pesos- about 5 bucks. It is totally insane. I've been here several times and I've have not seen anything like it elsewhere. You will find anything to please your desires here.

Dude,

While it might be true in some cases, I did send 80 bucks a few months back to a Colombian girl I knew when she got laid off. I came back to Bogota and she just fucked me for 3 days and two nights (hell I'm still recuperating). All I has to do is get lunch / dinner and pay her cab to get her clothes from home on the second day. While I do speak Spanish I don't think is safe to assume all are gold digging leeches. On that note I bought some tequila to a young hottie in zona rosa. She came to my apartment all night with me. She was buzzing hard and just wanted to party. Cost? A bottle of tequila and her cab fare.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2362161]If you want to see the truth of #2, go hang out around Western Union and watch. You'll see the hot chicks go in to pick up money. They'll almost always have 2 guys with them. One is the boyfriend. The other is his friend. After they get the money, she'll take them out partying.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362651]After being with Asakira and talking to Woodman and the ISG member, I really saw no reason to go to any of the Chaperino spa places, casas, or high end clubs. It seems like a complete waste of money.[/QUOTE]The problem with Santa Fe is that the girls are just way more used and disease ridden than the clubs or agency escorts. In general, I know there are exceptions. There was this guy on this forum whose strategy was to bareback as many girls in Santa Fe as possible. And he didn't like club girls or escorts because they refused to bareback with him. So the chances of getting something like Herpes or whatever is a lot higher with street girls. I don't judge anyone, but it's just not my scene.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362651]............I also found an amazing 19 year old swimsuit model who is kind of half of a sugar baby. I really don't know what term to use for a woman who fucks for money but won't fuck just anybody for money...........[/QUOTE]I know what term to use.....a non-pro.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2362651]...............Yeah, there are the idiot foreigners who have way overpaid some women ..............[/QUOTE]I have no problem with foreigners overpaying Colombian working girls. I am happy for the girls to get a little extra cash. That way they can spend a little more money caring for themselves to look and feel better when its time to service me.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362822]I am happy for the girls to get a little extra cash. That way they can spend a little more money caring for themselves to look and feel better when its time to service me.[/QUOTE]

I agree with you, Turgid, but the key phrase there is a little extra cash. It's hard to know exactly how much to give. It is easy to say no though when you have women demanding extreme amounts. So far, all the women I have been with have wanted to see me again.

[QUOTE=Turgid;2362820]I know what term to use.....a non-pro.[/QUOTE]

I like that term a lot better than liar.