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[QUOTE=Opebo]
These establishments have customers, Giotto, because men from certain countries, such as England, Germany, and the US do not have access to sex in their homelands. They come to Thailand and a few other destinations because these are the only places where they can have easy access to sex.
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Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?
[QUOTE=Old Thai Hand]I'm just being a bit contankerous. Firstly, I don't hate Patts nearly as much as I make out. I don't think I could live there. But, it's good for the occasional weekend away with my buddies, just for something different. As far as my girls being prettier than yours...as a good friend of mine always says when I pontificate a little too much..."They're ALL fashion models in the dark". BTW, occasionally I like some earthy brown meat, instead of all that refined white meat, all the time, again for something different. The beauty is, one can have it all here.
final note on food: I wasn't suggesting that people are going to get sick on street food immediately. My issue with it is negatvie long-term health effects. I sat in a taxi today on Phetchaburi Road and watched as office people lined up for food that was being repeatedly belched on by an old bus. Just imagine the crap falling on all those moo ping on the grill.
But, then again, one could get murdered by the Russian mafia or run over by a baht bus tomorrow. And just breathing BKK air every day is probably slowly killing me. So, maybe I'll throw caution to the wind and go get some mango somtam ;), khanom jeen and a chunk of kai yang on soi 22 for dinner.[/QUOTE]
Well said! I am done mongering in Bangkok. It's overpriced, and you don't get the same service as you would from the girls in Pattaya. I live here, and instead of wasting my money in this horrid city I just get out once a month to Pattaya and pull girls there. The businessmen can have their overpriced *****s.
[QUOTE=Lover Boy #2]Germany....you must be joking?!?!?!?!? Why make a comment when you don't know what you are saying?[/QUOTE]
Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out [url]www.sandyssuperstars.com/[/url].
[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Agreed - why do some arseholes make such gratuitously stupid comments. There is certainly no requirement for Brits to visit LOS for P4P. There is an extremely active and competitively priced scene in UK, particularly in the MP sector. In the north you can easily find a beautiful and willing partner for an hour for 70-80 pounds. OK not exactly Pattaya prices but the quality is very high. Check out [url]www.sandyssuperstars.com/[/url].[/QUOTE]
Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.
Here...try this place....the intensity of the sexual experience would rival Thailand any day of the week;
[url]http://www.aboutus.org/Planet-Happy-Garden.info[/url]
....better sauna experience than is availalbe anywhere in Thailand....lounging on the lawn with semi-naked beauties in summer, legitimate business with health checks and licenses.....
(food, weather, cost of living.....all different stories...but that was not the subject)
Opebo....from reading your posts...better you stay in Thailand!!
P.S. The "gear" on those "Sandy's" girls would be very hard to beat. I always try to achieve that look when in Thailand by buying the gear for a long term keeper from a local lingerie shop......but they never seem to achieve the full look....and "keep the shoes on in bed" seems to bring a strange look in Asia...while in Germany it is expected!!
[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Agreed also. A few of us have been trying to pump a bit of life into the Manchester UK Section of ISG over the last few months, and you are right in your suggestion that Brits don't have to travel abroad to get a decent P4P fuck at a relatively decent price, particularly in Manc. Btw, Sandys has it's merits (nice premises, decent-looking girls), but it's reputation is built mostly on an aggressive internet marketing campaign that would make Giotto proud, and it'll cost you £100 per hour (£50 for 30 minutes) for a basic, no extras (owo, etc) service.
Sorry for going off-topic. Just clarifying.[/QUOTE]
Also sorry for the probable non relevance but its all mongering related. Agreed that Sandy's has a tremendous internet site and is slightly higher priced because of this but the quality of the surroundings and the pornstar/centrefold nature of the girls are second to none. I must admit I'm a big fan. Before I returned home to the Philippines from a visit to UK recently, I paid a visit and had an absolutely tremendous hour with a young Yorkshire blonde Minx called Kirsty, which was the equal or better than any ST experience in the Far East. For a bit cheaper but even more raunchy experience in less salubrious surroundings, I would recommend Arabesque in Bury (and also Bolton) and Executive Lounge on the other side of the Pennines in grotty Hull! Check out my reviews under the same handle on *********. I am a big adherent of the MP scene in UK where quality and vfm are second to none in the top parlours. Probably not as good (or as cheap) as a soapy/oily in Bangkok/Pattaya but not far off and a completely refreshing change.
P.S Sorry I'm not supposed to mention the top punter related site in UK although it has a completely different remit than this;)
There seem to be a recent increase in the number of crime related incidents involving fake Police Officers in Pattaya; this one is a lot more painful than some of the others. Ouch!
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Construction Worker shot in the groin by 4 men dresses as Police Officers.
[i] In the early hours of Saturday Morning, Police Lieutenant Choosak from Banglamung Police Station made his way to a Constructors Campsite located near the train track in Naklua to investigate a shooting. Khun Surachai aged 28 was injured in the shooting and rushed to Hospital. Through the pain he was able to explain to Police that he was awoken by the sound of a Cockerel. He woke up and went to use the Toilet. On the way he spotted 4 men who were apparently wearing uniforms similar to Police Officers. One of the men approached Khun Surachai and told him to go back to bed as they were in the process of purchasing Yabba Tablets as part of an undercover Police operation. Khun Surachai was suspicious of the men and did not comply. One of them then produced a gun in anger and shot him in his groin area. Police confirmed that no such undercover operation was taking place in the area at the time and suspect the men were not Police Officers or volunteers, however all possible avenues of investigation are being explored at this time as Police hunt for the shooter and his accomplices.[/i]
[QUOTE=Run Mann][i]Those low priced Freelancers/SW could end up costing a whole lot more than any overpriced go-go girl. These stories about Falangs being drugged by Freelancers are reported with some frequency but you have to wonder how many more are not reported. Frugal Mongers take note and be aware of who you are picking up, the 300b short time is not always 300b as you can see in this story below, be safe.[/i][/quote]
Most hotels in Pattaya require that the lady leave her Identification Card at the hotel desk, when she goes inside the room with her man.
A lot of farangs ignore this rule. And the hotel mangement often doesn't enforce it. But if you want to stay safe. Then make sure your lady leaves her ID at the hotel desk.
When other people know who she is. And the police can easily trace her. Then even the criminally inclined ladies probably won't try to take advantage of you.
All adult Thais are supposed to have this ID, which is issued by the Thai government. And virtually all Thais carry this ID with them. Because simply not having this ID can lead to arrest by Thai police.
When you take a lady from a beer-bar. Then perhaps you can ignore this rule about leaving the lady's ID at the hotel desk. Because people at the bar know who she is and how to find her. But when you take a lady from the Walking Street or the Beach Road. Then finding her in case of trouble is a lot harder. And with these ladies you definitely should insist that they leave their ID at the hotel desk.
But besides being drugged at your hotel room. There have been cases of farangs being drugged at large crowded disco places, such as Marine Disco and others. And the best way to avoid trouble there is to avoid drinking anything.
And I say this based on my own experience. A long time ago I was at one of those Disco places with a group of freelancers, whom I've known for a few days. I didn't think twice about accepting a drink from one of them. Because by then I knew them relatively well. And it turned out that they did put something in my drink.
I was fortunate enough not to pass out there. Perhaps they didn't put enough stuff in my drink. And after they got tired of waiting for me to pass out. We all went back to our usual bar. Where a short time later I did pass out. But they didn't take anything from me because of all the witnesses there.
I wasn't completely fortunate though. Because after that incident I felt sick for 2 or 3 days. This knock-out stuff they put in your drink is not good for you. And you can even die from it, if they happen to put too much of it in your drink.
[QUOTE=Evil Penivel]It is based on the famous Beer Garden on Soi 7 in Bangkok. Apparently the opening night in Pattaya was a huge success. Read about it [URL="http://www.pattayabeergarden.com/"]Pattaya Beer Garden[/URL].
Evil[/QUOTE]I visited the Beer Garden multiple times mid July. On low season it was disappointment. Absolutely no free lancers there and not that many customers either. It is good place to eat with nice ocean view if you already have company. It is good place to have a beer if you do not want any hassle from anybody. Including waitresses. I also liked their music video selection.
OTH,
Back in the states for 2 months and I'm just getting over my jetlag. I didn't mean to sound so down but I had medical insurance all my life until the last 2 years. I do have a expat medical policy now but after all the research on medical coverage I'm not so sure how much it is going to cover if I ever get real sick.
I have always kept myself in real good shape but find myself now somewhat restricted particularly when I come back to the states. I have always enjoyed the snow and am a expert skier and can't even do that since I don't want to get hurt. The cost to go to the hospital just for a broken leg would take a big chuck from my savings since I don't get a pension right now. Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurance. Example, just last summer I got a infection under my arm and I couldn't take the pain any longer. I was considering flying back to Bangkok to get it taken care of but in the end had to go to the general hospital to take care it. In the end I didn't qualify for general assistance because I had too much money in the bank so I had to pay full price for the service. Two thousand bucks! If I had insurance they would have gladly taken 500.00 from the insurance company. If I had it done in Bangkok or Pattaya it would have cost me maybe 3,000 baht.
After all my research I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblown! Some of these hospitals seem topush so hard to make money to pay for all the upgrades in the hospitals are making recommendations for operations and procedure when they are not necessary. Now living in Thailand I eat Thai nearly everyday and I understand what you are all saying about where the food comes from and how it might be prepare and it could drive one crazy and that's what it is doing to me maybe but I don't have much choice. How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooling? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
Good luck to all and enjoy the food and I'll just have to learn to relax more in the LOS!
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]I'm starting to feel that the medical services being raved about on 60 minutes is overblown[/QUOTE]The "tourism" part of medical tourism to Thailand is fine. It's the "medical" part that has the problems.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan].... How do you tell your wife not to use so many oil in their cooking? I just don't want to sleep with my 5 dogs that we have!
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I suggest you tell her that you like boiled food more than fried food. Boiling food does take a little more time and work. But she probably won't mind doing it, if you ask her nicely without criticising her cooking skills.
I've also had a problem with too much oil in my stir-fried food prepared by my Thai lady. So much oil doesn't taste good. And it is bad for your health.
But that's what you have to deal with when you choose your lady for her nice-looking body rather than for her good cooking skills.
Dan7373,
Not her body but for her personalilty. She is a good cook but she isn't just cooking for me although I'm the only farang that is eating. She buys the proper cooking oil and the food taste so good but they seem to use so much of it when they cook. Have you ever seen how much oil is used to fry a egg?
It seems in the Thai culture asking nicely is exactly that, being critical! When it is my turn to cook I usually steam the vegetable but although I don't like my food too spicy I always spice it up with a small pepper and lots of garlic for the rest of the family. As for western food I use only olive oil. Basically it's a matter of education and working around the their style without unintentionally offending anyone.
LBM
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]OTH,
Your quote for a leg operation in the U.S. I'm not sure where that came from since I have had 2 knee operation in the past and that's when I had great insurance and I could tell you even then what the insurance company paid out to the doctor and hospital was way more than what you quoted and they were taking alot less than if a patient had no insurancethe LOS!
LBM[/QUOTE]
The operation I had was the same as the one Tiger Woods just had. It's fairly routine and doesn't require staying in the hospital in the US. But, I had to stay in for 2 days here. I got the US quote off the Internet. My sister has also had the same operation in Canada, as well as 2 knee replacements and she told me the 350,000 baht quote from Bangkok Hospital was obscene. Bumrungrad quoted 150-180,000 - basically the same as the US quote. I eventually had it done at a govt. hospital for 84,000 by supposedly the top ortho surgeon in Thailand. My leg hasn't been the same since and I've been in and out of hospital for the last 6 months.
Has this forum gone to shit or what!!! leave the small talk to PM's and report useful information about chicks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!