General Reports

[QUOTE=Jambo]I make yearly trips to Tim's Chop Suey, (TST), Kowloon. Can anyone suggest a shop for the best deal on a box of authentic Cuban cigars? Should I just get them at the airport shop on the way out?

I love sitting outside the clubs at Knutsford Terrace, smoking a Monte Cristo, and drinking Bourbon. But sometimes its hard to walk home. lol[/QUOTE]

Hey Jambo,

For your consumption in the territory, there are Davidoff stores in both the Peninsula Hotel (TST) and The Landmark Shopping Centre (Central). Wide variety and the cigars are kept in a temperature and humidity controlled room.

HK tobacco taxes are high (yes, I indulge in cancer sticks), and your best value for money is at the duty free shop at the airport. They have a reasonable selection of Cohibas, Romeo and Juliette and a few other brands. I usually get a box of R&C's on the way out. They have both hand and machine rolled.

Cheers,
BD

[QUOTE=WebConexxion]I went out to BBOSS in Tsim Sha Tsui, 14 Science Museum Rd last night. The place was reaally big and claims to be able to hold 3000 people. My friends and I where the only customers.

To sit down for the minimum drink charge is HK$520 when there is a show. Which I guess is to be always. Even if it just a guy singing on the stage. When they brought our drinks they also brought peanuts and fruit. I found out later if you eat them. They charge you. Just so you know.

The Mamason will bring out the girls and they where all pretty good looking. Tall and good looking. They are not working as maids that is for sure. They all seemed to have basic English skills.

Short time is HK$5000 (2 hours) and Over Night is HK$15000[/QUOTE]

These rates seem pretty expensive and I used to go there once a week albeit a few years ago. And I think you were being gouged. Did you go with someone that had been there before? Hearing that you were charged for the show, I'm assuming you went there for the first time without a regular. How much was the barfine from the club and what did they ask you to pay the gal directly for ST on top of the barfine?

If you have the time and really want to go upmarket clubbing, go to Macau. Buying just about any package at the Shun Tak Centre is going to be better value and you will almost be guaranteed a good time. For Hk$5,000 you could have 3 shots with gals in the 8+ range.

Just about every club rips off newbies, that's why local club monger always go first time with a regular. This doesn't happen that often in Macau as most guys buy a package and the charges are all set unless you upgrade the gals to "model" standard.

[QUOTE=Undercoverh]Also, I would bet that many of the girls there may be members of the [url]www.cherryblossoms.com[/url] which has a lot of HK PI maids on the website. In addition, in a different setting (e.g., club), these same girls are more than willing to meet for a price. But why pay big bucks for something you can get in PI for dirt cheap. In my opinion, most of the girls there are not attractive.
But, to each their own, if a guy likes that PI maid type, enjoy.[/QUOTE]Yeah I have had a membership to Cherry Blossoms and have a life time membership to all the FriendFinder sites (my friend owns them) and I found most of the girls are really looking for a real boyfriend or husband on those sites. I do not want to waste their time or lie to them to make them think I can be the one. I ask them right away. " are you looking for a BF (boyfriend) or FF (Fuck Friend). They say BF. I ask them if they are into monkey business and they where not interested. So I would rather just use the 141 site.

I agree that most of the maids are not good looking. Over 30 + years old and have pretty much been living a hard life. Like you said. To each his own if that is what a guy likes.

[QUOTE=Hat Trick]I agree with your theory WebCon, all the girls congregate at Central to catch up on the latest, then the pretty sexy ones pair up to eat, shop or hang out at bar scenes, etc. Incidentally, the mob en masse at open public squares bcos literally they have no where else to go on this tiny compact island.

One point I want to make is these girls are human beings. They've been displaced from their homeland due to economic hardship and survival. They do a tour of 1 or 2 years then go home. They are often homesick, miss their family and friends. Just goto any Internet bars on sundays in Central, causewaybay, or TST, you will see what I mean. They are chatting/emailing with their friends and family back home. 3 girls to a screen, standing room only. Most I-bars have a 50% off specials on sundays just to accommadate these temporary migrant workers. They can't spend much and they can't stay long.

With that said, they are young girls and they get lonely here. Some of the itchy/scratchy ones will have little problem finding partners in a liberal HK. Some shy ones will just have to keep their eyes open for their prince to save them.

But most monger here just wanna pluck out a decent looking one, treat them like a piece of meat, throw some bills behind them and score another one for King Midas.

Oh it's a good plan, don't get me wrong. I'm just saying the road to that kind of happy ending has many turns.

Good luck to you all.

HatTrick[/QUOTE]I pretty much agree with everything you say. For me I don't come to HK to fu*k Filipino's or Thai's when a flight to those countries are so cheap. I am really here for the 141 scene.

[QUOTE=Bob Builder]These rates seem pretty expensive and I used to go there once a week albeit a few years ago. And I think you were being gouged. Did you go with someone that had been there before? Hearing that you were charged for the show, I'm assuming you went there for the first time without a regular. How much was the barfine from the club and what did they ask you to pay the gal directly for ST on top of the barfine?

If you have the time and really want to go upmarket clubbing, go to Macau. Buying just about any package at the Shun Tak Centre is going to be better value and you will almost be guaranteed a good time. For Hk$5,000 you could have 3 shots with gals in the 8+ range.

Just about every club rips off newbies, that's why local club monger always go first time with a regular. This doesn't happen that often in Macau as most guys buy a package and the charges are all set unless you upgrade the gals to "model" standard.[/QUOTE]Yeah we pretty much figuring we where going to get ripped off being newbies. It was the first time for all of us being there. We where messing around in the strip clubs in Wanchai and where not impressed so we asked one of the touts out front where all the good looking girls are. She brought us to a taxi and told the driver where to bring us.

Maybe the prices have changes since you where last there but I am sure the price are still more than a strip club in Wanchai. These are the prices we where quoted: Short time is HK$5000 (2 hours) and Over Night is HK$15000. They said that is all inclusive and we did'nt have to pay the girls after that. So maybe they figured in for the girl and a healthy tip.

We did'nt bar fine and went back to Fenwicks and I will give my over all report and evaluation after I am done here. Even have some useful tips on how to get good coke !

I am going to Macau after and plan on hitting a few Saunas.

I just enjoyed Sunday yesterday. I went to Laguna in Wan Chai at 3:00 based on a preivous experience. Ironically, I found out about Sundays in Wan Chai from fellow member Ramn who I enjoyed beers and dinner with Saturday night. Many thanks Ramn!

I arrived at 3:00. Laguna was somewhat slow as there weren't more that 15 girls there. I grabbed a beer and waited. I am convinced that a majority of the Indonesian and Filipino Domestic Helpers hang out here on Sunday. Around 4:00-5:00 the place was packed with girls and men. I got the idea (personal opinion) that the girls like to party and dance with their friends because they have to report to work for the week at 7:00-8:00 Sunday night.

Case in point.... I met a hot girl at 4:00 who agreed to head back to my hotel in TST. She was all for the date but wanted to prolong her time at Laguna. My guess is she figured if we left Laguna at 5:30, had a short time at my TST hotel at 6:00-7:00ish, she'd be able to shower and head straight to work. Why not prolong the extra time partying with you friends and having fun?

I also found that the DH girls don't make much money so my guess is that they can supplement their income and turn a trick every Sunday (while having fun with their friends) they can make an extra 4000 HK per month.

Definetely check out Laguna on Sunday if you are in town next weekend. I've gone twice in my life and loved it!!!!

Greetings,

I have on been to Wan Chai a few times and pretty much focus on New Makati, Laguna, and Fenwicks. Based on my experience, Fenwicks is the best in variety (I prefer south americans and non asian) but it doesnt get hopping to later in the night.

I have never been to Neptune.

How does it stack up in variety and quality? What is it like at 8:00 at night? Is it a late night spot?

Thanks.

Hi,

I'm looking for a decent hotel on or around Queens Road Central in HongKong?
Does not have to be a mongering hotel, just a pleasant place to crash for the night , ie. no roaches, dives please.

Many thanks

[QUOTE=Surferr3]Greetings,
I have never been to Neptune.
How does it stack up in variety and quality? What is it like at 8:00 at night? Is it a late night spot?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]

I don't know of anywhere in Wanchai that is busy at that time of night. Neptunes does not get going till later. I would say crowd starts to come in about 10. But better later than that for best choice.

Having said that I have been to Neptune 9-9:30 and picked up a early bird and due to the early hour only payed $400-500. This gives them plenty of time to get back for prime time. Mostly these are girls I knew so could negotiate the price without too much fuss. If you are a new comer they might hold out for more or just want drinks.

If you want after works drinks go to Lan Kwai Fong, there will be a few bars with people there. Don't think you will find many pro's though.

A few girls I have been with went to some of the better class hotel bars early on, such as the Oriental. They ask a high price there and if they can't snag someone then go to Wan Chai and lower their price to meet the market.

If you don't mind paying then that might be an option.

BJK

[QUOTE=BJK]I don't know of anywhere in Wanchai that is busy at that time of night. Neptunes does not get going till later. I would say crowd starts to come in about 10. But better later than that for best choice.

Having said that I have been to Neptune 9-9:30 and picked up a early bird and due to the early hour only payed $400-500. This gives them plenty of time to get back for prime time. Mostly these are girls I knew so could negotiate the price without too much fuss. If you are a new comer they might hold out for more or just want drinks.

If you want after works drinks go to Lan Kwai Fong, there will be a few bars with people there. Don't think you will find many pro's though.

A few girls I have been with went to some of the better class hotel bars early on, such as the Oriental. They ask a high price there and if they can't snag someone then go to Wan Chai and lower their price to meet the market.

If you don't mind paying then that might be an option.

BJK[/QUOTE]
It is much easier to negotiate with the Thais than the Philipinas, because they mostly come on their own, whereas almost all Philipinas have "managers" who heavily control them and set them time frames, or they need to pay them more. Since Neptunes is the place for the Thais (There are Thais also in the other places, but not mainly).

[QUOTE=Tiger 888]It is much easier to negotiate with the Thais than the Philipinas, because they mostly come on their own, whereas almost all Philipinas have "managers" who heavily control them and set them time frames, or they need to pay them more. Since Neptunes is the place for the Thais (There are Thais also in the other places, but not mainly).[/QUOTE]

Agree with your post.
I don't tend to go with the managed filo's.
A few years ago there used to be more locally based filipina's part timing.
I think they must have tightened up on the visas and cracked down on DH who could live outside from their employer. Also Chinese girls are now a rarity.

I don't live in HK anymore so when I visit I can't always get the best deal from a known friendly provider. Still it is amazing how many times I recognise a girl from a year or two ago.
BJK

[QUOTE=Surferr3]I am convinced that a majority of the Indonesian and Filipino Domestic Helpers hang out here on Sunday. Around 4:00-5:00 the place was packed with girls and men. I got the idea (personal opinion) that the girls like to party and dance with their friends because they have to report to work for the week at 7:00-8:00 Sunday night.

I also found that the DH girls don't make much money so my guess is that they can supplement their income and turn a trick every Sunday (while having fun with their friends) they can make an extra 4000 HK per month.[/QUOTE]I am sorry but in my very humble opinion. These are NOT domestic helpers. The girls hanging out in Wan Chai are pros.

They may have at one time come over on a domestic helper visa.

OR they are told by their managers to tell anyone who asks starting from when they leave their province they are working as domestic helpers.

OR they have all figured out that it it works into the customers fantasy he is not fu*king a pro, just a "regular" girl only turning tricks part time.

If you want to see what real domestic helpers look like walk anywhere around the Central MTR station on Sunday. THOSE are domestic helpers. Again in my very humble opinion they are not very attractive. But like I said previous. To each his own.

Any decently hot girl from the Philippines or Thailand is NOT going to waste their time cleaning toilets and floors.

My theory is any decently hot girl that is REALLY a domestic helper has already been scooped up as some guys girlfriend and doesn't have to clean floors and toilets anymore. So that means any of the girls in Wan Chai are pros.

Sorry. I just see it how it really is. IMHO.

[QUOTE=BJK]Agree with your post.
I don't tend to go with the managed filo's.
A few years ago there used to be more locally based filipina's part timing.
I think they must have tightened up on the visas and cracked down on DH who could live outside from their employer. Also Chinese girls are now a rarity.

I don't live in HK anymore so when I visit I can't always get the best deal from a known friendly provider. Still it is amazing how many times I recognise a girl from a year or two ago.
BJK[/QUOTE]The Pinnays used to get multiple entry visas to China. So they could stay longer and just go to China for a week or two. Now they only get single entry visas to China which makes frewuent travel way more difficult. Furthermore the business is down in Wan Chai and many moved on to Shanghai where the return shall be better as I heard.

WebConexxion,

95% of the girls out in Wan Chai before 10pm on SUNDAY are domestic helpers.

Any other time and date, its probably 5% domestic helpers as the only ones out are those who live in dorm's and don't have to be home for the boss.

I think some of the people here are being a little hard on the domestic helpers. First off there are somewhere between 200,000 and 250,000 helpers living in Hong Kong. Very few of them are pretty but even if 1-5% are that it is 2,000-12,500 who are decent.

There are very few Thai domestic helpers left in Hong Kong. In the past few years the number of domestic helpers from Indonesia has overtaken the number of domestic helpers here from the Philippines. In addition over 80% of new domestic helpers come from Indonesia meaning that most of those from the Philippines have been here for a while thus they are older and may not be so good looking anymore. You don't see too many 20-23 year old philippinos any more in Hong Kong. (And I think most of the better looking and educated ones either make more money as a caregiver/nurse in the West, make US$1,000 working in a factory in Korea or can do just as well at home as they can being a slave here). Indonesians are happy to be here as it beats making HK$800 in Malaysia, HK$1,500 in Singapore. The HK$3,400 they make here is far better than they could do pretty much anywhere else plus given the reasonable closeness of the languages most can speak Cantonese.

One change that I have noticed in the past year or so is alot more helpers when they are in Laguana/Makahti on Sundays are looking for cash, even if they want a bf/gf type relationship they want their income supplimented. Of course there are still many that just want to have fun. I picked one up last Sunday - thought it was a little easier than normal but figured she must be horny. We went and had a great session and then at the end she came right out and said she wanted money for what we had done. I was a little surprised as I have never had someone ask for payment without making it clear before hand that she wanted cash. She was pretty good in bed and fairly decent looking (great breasts for someone so petite) and would fuck her again but didn't want the hassle of any attachment so I gave her $500 and sent her back to Laguana.

As for picking up domestic helpers Laguana and Makahti are the best on Sundays. Neptunes and Boracay are filled with lesbians mostly. Kowloon park is where the Indian construction workers and Nepelese security guards go to pick up. Kowloon city is where the few Thai girls left hang out but I have not been there is years. Central (Philippinos) and Victoria park (Indonesians) are where the ugly girls who can't get into clubs gather or when people just want to hang out with friends. I think it would be very difficult to pick up here - what girl is going to want to meet a guy in front of 20 friends and take off to a hotel room. There are also a lot of churches that are packed with helpers both Philippinos and Indonesians on Sunday morning and afternoons as well but likely not good places to hunt (although I have pulled a fair number of helpers that go to church religiously every Sunday morning).

On a Sunday before 9 or 10 almost everyone in Laguana or Makhati is a domestic helper - most of the regular working girls avoid it then as too many people are giving the goods away for free or very cheaply.

I guess what I am saying is there are a few thousand domestic helpers that are good enough looking to fuck around with just you need to know where to look.

As for Wan Chai on regular nights it has been slow lately. HK has come close to cutting the number of gweilos in half over the past 5 years so there are fewer customers. I know a lot of girls are complaining. More are going to Shanghia and I heard (don't know if it is true) that Singapore just started giving 30 day visas to Philippinos. Lack of demand may be causing people to try to raise their prices (much like P. Burgoes in Manila) thus further decreasing demand. There are so many Chinese alternatives in the city (or Macau or China). Lately I have found myself frequenting those establishments rather than Wan Chai so much. Not just because of prices but so many of the working girls in Wan Chai this past year have been rather ugly. It is getting harder and harder to find a pretty one with a good attitude.

That leaves the question then of where to go out tonight?