Short FR on Phnom Penh 10-13 Aug
First time step foot into Phnom Penh. Stayed in Secrets Hotel at St. 136 two block away from Route 136 bar. It is the old Lance Court Hotel after some renovation. I got offer from their website with USD52.5 Deluxe Room for 3 nights which is a bargain. Nice room with in-room safe which is my primary requirement for selecting hotel room.
You can get a SIM card at the airport when you come out from the arrival hall. All telcos have their counter in front of the arrival hall exit. I got one SIM from Smart for USD 6 for 20 GB (7 days) (claim by the counter staff there). Others like Metfone and Cellcard also offer quite similar package for USD 5 for 7 days.
Bar: went to bars along St 136, St 130, St 104 and St 51. Most bars offer happy hour draught beer at USD 0. 5-0.75 usually until 7 pm. However most good looking girls will usually start to come in around 7-8 pm with most crowded at 9 pm. Barfine USD 10 and lady drink USD 3. 5. Took girls from the bar one 2 nights, one from St 104 (Bar One Zero Four) and another one from St 136 (Mr Butterfly). The one from St 104 cost me USD 70 LT which turned out to be a good catch. Really accommodating and good attitude. Had 3 shots with her and leave at around 10 am when I told her I want to go to breakfast. Whereas the one from St 136 cost me USD 100 LT which was a disaster for me. Will tell me in later post. Personally I feel that bars at St 104 and St 130 have the best quality of girls. Look out for Angry Bird, Bar One Zero Four, Intoxica, Cheries. My POV, don't blame me if you got something different. LOL.
Shanghai bar at St 51 has few lookers too but you have to talk to them directly to check if they are going out with customer. Not all will go. Saw a SYT and try to hook up with her but it failed. Too bad.
Massage: went to Soul Garden City, Luxury World Hotel and St 252 Massage. Did not take any girl for whatever reason. Soul Garden seems to have better quality. Generally the charge is room USD 7-10 plus girl tips for the FJ. Girls are from either Cambodia or Vietnam.
KTV: went Naga World 88 KTV at level 2. Girls from Cambodia, Vietnam and Cambodia. Girl tips is 50 and LT 150,200 or 300 (varies on girls, tips will be waived), you need to ask the mummy specifically what is the particular girl's LT price. Took on Cambodia girl for LT 200. Overall OK, nothing to shout about. Johnny Walker Gold Reserve 750 ML USD 130 and Angkor beer USD 4/ can. Mixer is chargeable (coke / soda 3. 5) and each girl sit with you the KTV will charge USD 16 to the bill. Also surveyed Prince KTV and Cobra KTV. Generally girl tips 30 and LT 150-200. Saw quite a lot of lookers in Prince.
Freelance: Didn't go to much places except Naga's Darling Darling and area near to Naga hotel reception at ground floor. Quality quite good but did not get the quotation.
Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar=problem? Never had any.
[QUOTE=RickRock;2217322]Sorry for your experience. Butterfly Bar, Candy and the other one owned by the same lady have a lot of horror stories going back years. Pill padding, fights, all kinds of bad shit. They're best to be avoided in my opinion. Never heard anything good about any of them. On top of that 100 is a crazy price for a few hours of sleeping and one round of sex. Usually they only try it on if they work in a rip off joint or they don't really want to go with a guy. It is still very usually for bar girls to sleep all night with a customer for 30 to 50 dollars. For perspective you could've spent 30 at Cyrcee and got just as much sex with a better performer and then back to your room for a peaceful sleep without any arguments![/QUOTE]Yes. I've been told that the Butterfly Bar, Candy Bar and 69 Bar on 136 have the same owner. Candy Bar and 69 Bar have been my "home bars" on about 4 trips into PP. Never had any problems at all. No bill padding, witnessed no fights between customers or between the girls. Doesn't mean that it hasn't happened. I just never witnessed or experienced same. I never had a problem hiring a starfish from either of those bars. Performance, departure times agreed to were honored. Maybe I was just lucky? I like to believe that it is a combination of 40 years of mongering experience and careful vetting during pre-employment interviews that provides a measure of "luck". (And, yes, it is always a roll of the dice. I've been "had" a few times, but not in those bars. All in BKK.
SS.
Beg to disagree with Candy Bar
I had a very unpleasant experience at Candy Bar earlier this year over Happy Hour prices. I arrived toward the end of Happy Hour and ordered a drink but was charged full price. When the bill was put in my chit container on the bar, the time registered on the bar chit was in advance of the Happy Hour conclusion buy clearly after checking my watch it was not. I questioned this at the time and had verification from 2 other customers and called for the manager. A most aggressive female came forward and defended the bar staff and the erroneous charge. I left immediately, not consuming my drink and only leaving sufficient Riel on the bar to cover the advertised Happy Hour price. I will never enter Candy Bar again even though I have taken girls from there previously.
Happy mongering, Johnie.
Checking out the Bars and leaving promptly.
[QUOTE=Paolo99;2220633]The +$5 was for barfine or was it a tip? During my last trip girls at Alaska were very agressive. They were very unhappy that I entered and got out immediately of the bar, I'm pretty sure that some of them called me all kind of names in Khmer.
Do you guys do this kind of stuff? Going in a bar and going out straight after when you see nothing interesting, or do you just enter bars when you saw a cute girl outside?[/QUOTE]I do this most of the time. And you don't need to be a keen observer to see that entering and immediately departing is routinely done by most bar crawlers. No problem. It's SOP for most guys. If the place doesn't rock your boat, move on. Attractive girls outside will certainly grab my attention and is more likely to get me to take a look inside. As far as payment is concerned, everybody has their own pay scale. Both the customer and the provider. And those scales fluctuate and are usually negotiable. $70 long time (and less) and $30ST has been acceptable for me consistently. I don't "tip". This is just my personal experience and is only to add to your knowledge base.
SS.
Short Trip Report and My 2 Cents.
This is going to less on the reporting part and more on my thoughts.
I was in Phnom Penh for 2 weeks last month and I absolutely fucked zero girls, pros or non-pros. This was not what I intended at all when I arrived in Phnom Penh but I wasn't planning on fucking too much either. I absolutely hate the girly bar scene so that pretty much wipes out 3/4 of the monger options for me. No joke, for the entire trip, I've never step foot once in any girly bars and I only went to pontoon twice. Pontoon is actually a decent nightclub. The lights and lasers were cool and I liked most of the music the DJ was playing. And I love how the staff never pressured me into buying any drinks. The girls are not pushy either. The drink that I did order both time I was there was spirit, which was way over priced at $3. 75. You can buy the same can in the mini-mart for less than a dollar. I'm not sure about the prices for alcohol but I'm pretty sure they are over priced as well.
The first night, I arrived at 11 pm which was way too early as there were barely any girls at that time. I say the best time to go is around midnight to 1 AM. Anyways, I did not see any girls that made me want to pull so I left after I finished my drink. The second night, I arrived at midnight and soon after, a beautiful girl, 7/10 in the face, came in and stood next to me. She had long jet black hair and was elegantly dressed. She had some flowery perfume on that made me very attracted to her. We exchanged a couple awkward smiles and then finally I decided to ask her if she is available for the night through google translate. She quoted me $100, I was like hell no and countered $40 which she refused. So that was the end. Again, I left at around 2 AM after I finished my drink and I noticed that she was still there without a client.
To me, the only women on earth who I would pay $100 to fuck are Brazilians. These Cambodian girls in the girly bars and pontoon aren't worth that much money. No disrespect to them, as I know they quote the price they quote in order to survive. But that doesn't mean I have to pay it.
I then came to realize that if I'm willing to put in some work that I could easily date non-pros but it was too late for this trip. I'm by no means handsome. Just average looking, but I was getting looks from young normal Cambodian girls everywhere I was going. One time I went into a mini-mart by a gas station near the Russian market and the three cashier girls immediately screams, smiles at me, and waves at me. At first, I didn't even know what was going on. I thought they were directing it at someone behind me but there was nobody behind me. Another time I was in the supermarket, the two cashier girls who rang me up were delighted to talk to me. I was both surprised and happy that they spoke some English. There was also a young Cambodian girl that sits at a street corner selling Cambodian sweets. She was so cute I fell in love with her. So every other afternoon I would go to her, give her a smoothie drink that I bought for her, and buys a box of her sweets (R3000). I tried to talk to her but a) she only speaks Cambodian and b) she is extremely extremely shy. She can barely make eye contact with me when I talk her (but her face lights up like a Christmas tree when she sees me, she's even cuter when she smiles). I would've needed at least a month to crack her. I really hope she is still there when I go back. I guess what I'm trying to say is I think there is enough young good looking normal girls that I really don't need the girly bars or freelancers for sex. Of course, its not as easy to bed normal girls as pros. A lot of work and time is needed. But if I am given the choice to fuck a normal girl or a pro, I would 100% go with the normal girl. This is just my option I would like to share with everyone. I am by no means trying to disrespect any member on here.
