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[QUOTE=BobVila;2389908]Is the restaurant The Old Dutch and is on soi Cowboy? Does the ST hotel has a name?[/QUOTE]Old Dutch is gone and replaced by Kazy Kozy, so its not that. It was not really opposite Bacarra anyway. I guess there is a small restaurant after Cock'a'too bar, that is hardly noticed. Google suggests a name Spritz, but I don't know if that is correct now or not. Forgot to have a look last night as was a bit drunk.
[QUOTE=DanCee;2389990]I've stayed here and liked it. Can you say more about this please, in what way do they behave here that they cannot in Soi3 or 5? General mongering or over the top rowdiness?
I like the location, it is quiet and although the address is Soi 2 there is a pedestrian entrance from Soi 4 just past Omni Tower.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dan,
The reason they like it is the access from Soi 4 without having to pass reception. 3 or 4 will stay at The Grace or similar with their wives and families and book 1 room at Lohas building 2 or 3 for a boys party. They will then hoover up a (what is the correct collective noun?) bunch of LB's for a gang bang, with the emphasis on bang.
There is a Google review from about a year ago from some guy who endured this. He was lucky, security didn't open the door. My experience was far more graphic and unpleasant. Like him I found management to be blasse about the issue, and staff saying it happens repeatedly.
[QUOTE=GettingFedUp;2390338]Dan,
The reason they like it is the access from Soi 4 without having to pass reception. 3 or 4 will stay at The Grace or similar with their wives and families and book 1 room at Lohas building 2 or 3 for a boys party. They will then hoover up a (what is the correct collective noun?) bunch of LB's for a gang bang, with the emphasis on bang.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for that.
Avoid Building 2 and 3 for sure then. I stayed in Building 1 where accessing to the elevators you are more likely to encounter staff but not actually passing reception either so YMMV.
Perhaps a 'bitchiness of LBs' as a collective noun.
[QUOTE=DanCee;2390404]Perhaps a 'bitchiness of LBs' as a collective noun.[/QUOTE]Got it.
A "Todger of Ladyboys".
Here is an overview of ST hotels, posted by The Pimp. Did not check the locations, they may be closer to The Pimp than to the Nana / Cowboy area of Sukhumvit. But to me they do look good!
[URL]http://www.pimppost.com/best-love-hotel-in-bangkok/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DanCee;2390466]Got it.
A "Todger of Ladyboys".[/QUOTE]Dan,
Both your suggestions have merit, but I would suggest "a carvery of LBs" in view of the amount of spit-roasting going on.
[QUOTE=BestTimeEver;2390633]Here is an overview of ST hotels, posted by The Pimp. Did not check the locations, they may be closer to The Pimp than to the Nana / Cowboy area of Sukhumvit. But to me they do look good!
[URL]http://www.pimppost.com/best-love-hotel-in-bangkok/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Too bad these places are far away from most of the action on Sukhumvit.
I just did a ST at Ruamchit hotel above Thermae, it is legitly a nice hotel that is clean and modern for $800 baht which is for room and comes with condoms apparently.
[QUOTE=BestTimeEver;2390633]Here is an overview of ST hotels, posted by The Pimp. Did not check the locations, they may be closer to The Pimp than to the Nana / Cowboy area of Sukhumvit. But to me they do look good!
[URL]http://www.pimppost.com/best-love-hotel-in-bangkok/[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks good! Has anyone tried the X-it hotel? This one looks really really nice.
[QUOTE=FishermanBert;2393113]Looks good! Has anyone tried the X-it hotel? This one looks really really nice.[/QUOTE]Definitely get out Google maps before you make any decisions. X-IT would be a horrible fail in this regard. A full half hour plus by cab from the Nana Thermae etc area. You really should pick location first. If you are willing to pay $80/ night (not much more than X-IT) you can have your pick of nice hotels in the thick of it. Both the Mercure Sukhumvit 11 and the Novotel Sukhumvit 4 are brand names in this price range. And even more choice and less $$ if you want to go local.
And of course u can pay a lot less if u just want somewhere moderate to do the deed. Point is — location first, hotel second.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2393400]Definitely get out Google maps before you make any decisions. X-IT would be a horrible fail in this regard. A full half hour plus by cab from the Nana Thermae etc area. You really should pick location first..[/QUOTE]Spot on. That is way out in Lat Phrao area renowned for horrible traffic jams, and nearly as far as Fashion Island (Raam Inthra). Highly inconvenient to be that far out and its even well beyond the Pimp Club mentioned recently. I have visited Fashion Island before as used to know a Thai girl that lived up that way. Actually I still know her (platonic) and was her mother's house way up there.
Suitable location matters a lot and should be somewhere easy for taxis for when you need to go to the airport too. I generally stay beyond Soi 21 but not too far past. Others prefer close to Nana, but I really don't go to Nana bars much. Can't say there are any bars I really like at Nana a lot. So I am like closer to others things including the best MP areas, the BTS and the MRT, Villa Markt, my favourite Sports Pub, etc. At night I could get a taxi to Pat Pong in just 15 minutes. Coming in from Lat Prao though is pretty much a nightmare, perhaps tolerable on the MRT, if queues to get on are not long (could be in the peak).
[QUOTE=BestTimeEver;2390633]Here is an overview of ST hotels, posted by The Pimp. Did not check the locations, they may be closer to The Pimp than to the Nana / Cowboy area of Sukhumvit. But to me they do look good!
[URL]http://www.pimppost.com/best-love-hotel-in-bangkok/[/URL][/QUOTE]We can mostly ignore this except for guys using the Pimp Club. Some of these Hotels maybe near that club (or not so near). Married rich Thai guys of course, can't take the girl home, so they need a Hotel.
Drive in ST Hotels with curtains to hide the guests getting out of the car, often feature in Thai Soapy TV series mostly concerning very wealthy Thai men. Usually in the Soapy story, the girl gets a shock to find she is being driven to a ST Hotel. She had not yet decided she wanted to fuck the guy, most likely. This is regarding non-hooker girls being taken there. Perhaps she was hoping the guy was going to propose (or quit his wife if married) but then finds out that perhaps no, he just wants to fuck her only, so her path to his riches is not looking the best. Some soapies portray it like a rape or forced liaison with the ST Hotel not trying to stop it in the slightest. So even Thai kids watching soapy TV, will know all about ST Hotels, and what it means when the car parking area has curtains. LOL
Years ago I used to watch a lot of Thai soapies only to improve my Thai language skills for listening to normal Thai conversation, since they are pretty childish and boring for the most part. Some of the comedy ones can be better if we get a laugh. Others can be really quite nasty. I gave up Thai soapies long ago. Takes to much time. Scandinavian soapies are much higher quality.
Getting back to ST Hotels, the PB (Playboy) Hotel would be the most well known one in the Sukhumvit area. The Strand is one at Pat Pong. There are lots of little ones near the gogo bar areas. Ruamchit for the Thermae.
Beware that many ST Hotels that are very cheap can also have very poor standard rooms, possibly with very stinky plumbing (one experience of mine).
Hey, if you want to be in the suburbs then give X-it Resort a try by all means. The location has its perks. It is sort of close to Fruity Spa Kapoo Club & Spa and Maiake G-Club, for example, plus there are a number of really good Thai restaurants up that way. You will definitely get a different view of BKK by staying there.
But I too prefer to stay closer in. It is more convenient. I might hit Nana 150 x over the number of times I visit Fruity or Maiake per trip or trips. But I have given up on staying on Soi 11 and lower down due to the changing demographics. Is that politically incorrect? Too bad, it's the truth. I don't like a vast majority of those people and they don't like me. But I still like the hotels from the Sofitel (Soi 13) upward. I even enjoy going as far up as the Marriott Soi 57 Exec Apartment Hotel. Thoglor / Ekkamai has a good mix of restaurants, bar bars and clubs plus it is only 2 stops away on the BTS from Cowboy. Unfortunately, Marriott has raised the price on this hotel and I refuse to go along with the $15/ night increase, cheap bastard that I am, so for the last 2 trips I have booked the Marriott Park Exec Apartment Hotel on Soi 24 instead. I like Soi 24. It is quiet, but not too quiet and fairly convenient if you don't mind motorcycle taxis plus you got all the oilies at your disposal plus the small bars on Soi 22 for late, late night shenanigans.
I also like to stay over in the Chit Lom area for a few nights early in a trip when I am into going to Patpong. It is very quiet around Chit Lom after midnight except for the 5-star hotel FL bars like Mixx, Spasso & the corner 24 hour McDonalds, ha ha, but it is only a 7 to 10 minute taxi ride from there to Patpong after the trains have stopped running so I like it, but again, only for a few nights per trip.
Other Locations:
Chao Phraya River is a great location for 1st time BKK'ers interested in cultural shit or if you are bringing your own girl to BKK and maybe you don't want her to see what is going on in the red-light district. Ha Ha. There are some outstanding hotels along the river and priced accordingly. There are also a couple of discos or clubs nearby so it is possible to pick up some FL girls if you want and of course Patpong is only 10 or 15 minutes away. It is, however, a very different trip if you stay over here.
Khao San Road is where backpackers and other frugal and cultural visitors like to stay. I have never been there at night, but I hear there are SW's out and about, duh, after all this is BKK. I would love to hear some reports on this, but I am not going to hold my breath waiting.
Ratchadaphisek Road: I only mention this area as an alternative to the X-it Resort location. The area of Ratchadaphisek that I am thinking of is close to Huai Khwang. When the Lord was still open for business, I seriously thought of staying here for a few nights at the Swissotel across the street. I mean how bad could it be? And it is location location for many of the Soapies. Mini has an apartment nearby in back of the Cultural Center so that would be another incentive, but since the Lord is no more, I doubt I will ever book the Swissotel. It is just easier and more convenient to stay on or near Sukhumvit and to take a taxi or the MRT to Maria Hotel and Spa when I get the urge or when I want to visit Mini at her apartment.
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2393400]Definitely get out Google maps before you make any decisions. X-IT would be a horrible fail in this regard. A full half hour plus by cab from the Nana Thermae etc area. You really should pick location first. If you are willing to pay $80/ night (not much more than X-IT) you can have your pick of nice hotels in the thick of it. Both the Mercure Sukhumvit 11 and the Novotel Sukhumvit 4 are brand names in this price range. And even more choice and less $$ if you want to go local.
And of course u can pay a lot less if u just want somewhere moderate to do the deed. Point is location first, hotel second.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up! And I was going to try this place on my first trip ever in BKK! Any other good hotel you can recommend for a first timer so I don't get lost? Somewhere guest friendly too? Thanks!
[QUOTE=FishermanBert;2393494]Thanks for the heads up! And I was going to try this place on my first trip ever in BKK! Any other good hotel you can recommend for a first timer so I don't get lost? Somewhere guest friendly too? Thanks![/QUOTE]Would help a lot if you state how long you might be in Bangkok, major purposes, and hotel price range, any special requirements. So you want a good answer, it is better to put more effort into the question.
Even X-IT has a price range of 2000 Baht to 5000 Baht per night. We don't know if you considered a Jacuzzi to be essential. Most Hotels won't have it.
I would suggest a Hotel close to Sukumvit road, and not far from both BTS line (skytrain) and MRT (underground). Some possibles: On8, Dream Hotel, Silq, Grand Mercure Asoke Residence, Arize, Sakura Sky (if low budget), Lotus, S31, Mermaid, Dynasty Grand, Majestic Suites, Pullman Grand, Fx Asoke. Lots of others.
More Expensive: Column, Radison Blu, Sheraton, Marriott.
Choice depends on requirements and how much you want to spend. Book online a small number of nights, in case you want to move elsewhere, before long, or go to Pattaya.
Time of year, local events and holidays can also have a huge impact on the availability of rooms, and their price. My last visit I tried to get into the JW Marriott, but something was going down, and the few available rooms were 6 x the usual price. I ended up at the Marriott Mayfair Executive Apartment, which was great. With my points they put me on the upper levels and gave me a 2 bed / 2 bath apartment, which was of no real use - 555. The Mayfair was great, but not particularly convenient, and taxi drivers had a tough time, and needed assistance finding it.
As long as you aren't too far off the beaten path, you'll be OK. But definitely shoot to be close to a BTS sky train.
[QUOTE=Syzygies;2393594]Would help a lot if you state how long you might be in Bangkok, major purposes, and hotel price range, any special requirements. So you want a good answer, it is better to put more effort into the question.
Even X-IT has a price range of 2000 Baht to 5000 Baht per night. We don't know if you considered a Jacuzzi to be essential. Most Hotels won't have it.
I would suggest a Hotel close to Sukumvit road, and not far from both BTS line (skytrain) and MRT (underground). Some possibles: On8, Dream Hotel, Silq, Grand Mercure Asoke Residence, Arize, Sakura Sky (if low budget), Lotus, S31, Mermaid, Dynasty Grand, Majestic Suites, Pullman Grand, Fx Asoke. Lots of others.
More Expensive: Column, Radison Blu, Sheraton, Marriott.
Choice depends on requirements and how much you want to spend. Book online a small number of nights, in case you want to move elsewhere, before long, or go to Pattaya.[/QUOTE]