Giotto, Can you PM me and let me know how the breakfast waitress is doing as she is away till July. Any details would be appreciated. My best to the other employees and hope they are safe.
Really appreciate your reports.
Mackin
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Giotto, Can you PM me and let me know how the breakfast waitress is doing as she is away till July. Any details would be appreciated. My best to the other employees and hope they are safe.
Really appreciate your reports.
Mackin
[QUOTE=Mackin]Giotto, Can you PM me and let me know how the breakfast waitress is doing as she is away till July. Any details would be appreciated. My best to the other employees and hope they are safe.
Really appreciate your reports.
Mackin[/QUOTE]Mackin,
She was too horny, and got pregnant. Now - she is in the final stage of production, or in the first stage of developing child support skills.
She is fine - for sure - don't worry. She will be back soon.
Giotto
PS: You are the father, right :) ?
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]What about Rabbits.
...
[/QUOTE]Tansak KTV,
Rabbits were not seen here for a long time already - so there is no sign outside. Frogs are really a plague ... :)
Giotto
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]...
You sure there isn't any Scots blood in you?[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,
I forgot to mention ... the sign outside - "No Frogs, No Scots" :) .
Giotto
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]...
The Hotel manager wasn't able to get to work Wednesday, due to living in the red zone, but I saw, posted on the internet, some amazing photos he personally took of "Central World" burning and other aspects of the crisis like soldiers emerging from tanks. Today I teased him about whether he was thinking of a new profession as a news photographer.
...
[/QUOTE]Links to Auntie Guido's pictures:
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/people/Guido-Ruhnau/1546874445#!/album.php?aid=29479&id=1546874445[/URL]
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/people/Guido-Ruhnau/1546874445#!/album.php?aid=29481&id=1546874445[/URL]
Giotto
Giotto, Yes she was pregnant when I visited in Jan and Feb. . Can't claim any responsibility for this one. Already the bun was in the oven before I arrived. You were there all along, anything to say for yourself????
Again my best to the sisters and the husband who always provided great restaurant and bar tending service.
Mackin
[QUOTE=Giotto]Links to Auntie Guido's pictures:
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/people/Guido-Ruhnau/1546874445#!/album.php?aid=29479&id=1546874445[/URL]
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/people/Guido-Ruhnau/1546874445#!/album.php?aid=29481&id=1546874445[/URL]
Giotto[/QUOTE]Oh christ tell me he doesn't play farmville like most the filipina population does.
But great shots.
[QUOTE=Giotto]I forgot to mention ... the sign outside - "No Frogs, No Scots" :)[/QUOTE]
It is good to hear that business is still good so you can turn away customers. :p
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam]It is good to hear that business is still good so you can turn away customers. :p[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,
Hmmm, let me think - it might make sense to remove that sign under the given circumstances ... but Scots, do they really spend money somewhere :) ?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]Sonic Bam,
Hmmm, let me think - it might make sense to remove that sign under the given circumstances ... but Scots, do they really spend money somewhere :) ?
Giotto[/QUOTE]
And whilst at it - howzabout some nice plastic chairs/recliners around the pool? Cain't go out to monger around much these days anyway - at least Liverstone guests can contemplate their navels around the pool then.
Want a good deal on plastic charis?
SEAJ
[QUOTE=M P Lurker]
The pool has beautiful tempurature water as some days are very f'ing hot which obviously warms the pool a little! Not many mosquitos at this time for some reason.
[/QUOTE]
It should be, being on the roof. Should warm up nicely in the hot sun. :)
Hope every one is safe and well.
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim]It should be, being on the roof. Should warm up nicely in the hot sun. :)
Hope every one is safe and well.
Slim[/QUOTE]
On the roof??
Are you sure you're thinking about Livingstone's Lodge? With the pool just right outside the Sports Bar - where well behaved/good service ladies are at?
Yeah Giotto - what's on the roof? Mosquito breeding ground pools?
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...
Yeah Giotto - what's on the roof? Mosquito breeding ground pools?
...[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Just ask myself the same question. No idea what's on the roof, but I know what's NOT on the roof: The Pool!
Giotto
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]...
Want a good deal on plastic charis?
...
[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Economy still bad? No buyers for your plastic chairs?
As you know - it's not for us, we prefer Teakwood chairs :) !
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]SE Asia Joe,
Economy still bad? No buyers for your plastic chairs?
As you know - it's not for us, we prefer Teakwood chairs :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Yeah - terrible economy. Nobody wants to buy any of my 2 chairs. Even when I tell them that I'll sell both of them for the price of one.
And your teak wood chairs - time for you to replace the plastic naugahide. Must already be getting all gunked up with all that.....gunk.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Giotto]SE Asia Joe,
Just ask myself the same question. No idea what's on the roof, but I know what's NOT on the roof: The Pool!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Giotto, go back a couple of years or so. The pool on the roof was a big thing. Someone who claimed having stayed at LL, complained abt this and that, and talked about the pool on the roof. Come to find out, he was mistaking your place with another.
[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, go back a couple of years or so. The pool on the roof was a big thing. Someone who claimed having stayed at LL, complained abt this and that, and talked about the pool on the roof. Come to find out, he was mistaking your place with another.[/QUOTE]
What are you talking about? Don't you remember how the pool got to where it is now? The crappy plastic chairs that SE Asia Joe were stacked under the roof to keep it from collapsing. But when they dried out and collapsed the pool came crashing down to ground level. IIRC the thing that finally made them gave way was a rabbit working overtime.
For fun and frolic.
How typical!!
Liverstone Lodge.
Ahh welllll.... a bit of levity in all this gloom and doom.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Pita123]What are you talking about? Don't you remember how the pool got to where it is now? The crappy plastic chairs that SE Asia Joe were stacked under the roof to keep it from collapsing. But when they dried out and collapsed the pool came crashing down to ground level. IIRC the thing that finally made them gave way was a rabbit working overtime.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=1Ball]Giotto, go back a couple of years or so. The pool on the roof was a big thing. Someone who claimed having stayed at LL, complained abt this and that, and talked about the pool on the roof. Come to find out, he was mistaking your place with another.[/QUOTE]Mr. Vice President,
I am well aware of that story. And I think - Nvslim too :) .
Giotto
So if one were wanting to travel to Bangkok, will anytime this summer be ok again?
Would hate to miss a chance to be at the Lodge.
It's 3:30 am in the morning, one of the Curfew days ...
We had a good crowd here tonight, and half of the guests are still here. Somehow unbelievable.
The guests of the restaurant and the Sports Lounge came from Novotel Lotus (too boring) and Renoir (closed). I plaid pool with Alex (Renoir) until right now, and outside people were having fun in the pool, girls, guys ...
Haven't seen that for months now.
Curfew? I will talk to the army tomorrow an ask them to extend the curfew until the end of this year ... :)
Giotto
Hi Giotto,
I'm planning on spending some time at the lodge in late June and wanted to take advantage of one of your promotions, either staying for 5 days or 8 I haven't finalized plans yet.
I can't send you a PM with my details, however, I have stayed there before (this time last year) so you should have my real name details, etc. Is that sufficient notice to be able to use one of your specials? I can re-confirm the details when I have made my booking, or contact the e-mail address for the lodge if that works better for you.
[QUOTE=Giotto]
SE Asia Joe,
Just ask myself the same question. No idea what's on the roof, but I know what's NOT on the roof: The Pool!
Giotto
[/QUOTE]
It was a joke. Last year, some one wrote a bad report about a place he thought was LL and commented the pool was on the roof.
Slim
p.s. Its terrible when you take time to make a joke and it bombs.
[QUOTE=Giotto]I plaid pool with Alex (Renoir) until right now, .....I will talk to the army tomorrow an ask them to extend the curfew until the end of this year ... :)
Giotto[/QUOTE]
You need the army's curfew to help you play with a Stick and balls? :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You need the army's curfew to help you play with a Stick and balls? :D[/QUOTE]Leave the Bürgermeister alone Frenchy.
Soon you'll be 80 years old like Giotto and you'll see that you'll need all the help you can get to get it up as well.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Leave the Bürgermeister alone Frenchy.
Soon you'll be 80 years old like Giotto and you'll see that you'll need all the help you can get to get it up as well.[/QUOTE]
well, no offense, but you'll get there before me ;)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]well, no offense, but you'll get there before me ;)[/QUOTE]Yeah I'll be there before you (but not by much)
But even if I make it to 80 (if some husband / BF / bar owner 555 doesn't shoot me first) I'll always be 18 in heart (and brains).
Once I got to screwing age I decided to stay there. Why the hell grow up.
[QUOTE=Tansak KTV]Leave the Bürgermeister alone Frenchy.
Soon you'll be 80 years old like Giotto and you'll see that you'll need all the help you can get to get it up as well.[/QUOTE]The Rabbit KTV,
I placed the sign out there again: "No Rabbits, no Frogs, no Scots!"
BESTARD :) !!!
Giotto
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You need the army's curfew to help you play with a Stick and balls? :D[/QUOTE]Froggy,
I am not sure that I really need a curfew - but for the business it turned out positively the past few days.
Yesterday again - until 4 am in the morning, a crowd from the surrounding buildings and hotels, lots of girls (one customer came in with 6 (six) girls) partying in and around the swimming pool.
I will meet the PM later to discuss the extension of the curfew :) ...
Giotto
[QUOTE=Beller Ophon]Hi Giotto,
I'm planning on spending some time at the lodge in late June and wanted to take advantage of one of your promotions, either staying for 5 days or 8 I haven't finalized plans yet.
...
[/QUOTE]Beller Ophon,
If you are an ISG member you are entitled the the ISG promotion. Then you can send a PM to me - and there will be no problem.
If not you need to contact our managemeng (info@livingstones.co.th) - all hotels have problems right now and offer certain incentives to get customers in. Should not be a problem either :) .
C U .
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]
I will meet the PM later to discuss the extension of the curfew :) ...
Giotto[/QUOTE]
Thaksin has returned?
LOL
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Thaksin has returned?
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,
Not yet ... good idea, curfew extension forever !!!
Its packed here again right now - I am laughing my ass off. Obviously the word of mouth is around that there is at least some action here in Soi 33.
Groups of customers getting in, demanding to keep the bar open until the end of the curfew (4 am) ...
Ok, what can I do, I think we have to 'suffer' this curfew :):):). As we all know - life is so hard!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]Ok, what can I do, I think we have to 'suffer' this curfew :):):). As we all know - life is so hard!o[/QUOTE]
Two more nights of extended suffering. What is one to do?
[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,
Not yet ... good idea, curfew extension forever !!!
Its packed here again right now - I am laughing my ass off. Obviously the word of mouth is around that there is at least some action here in Soi 33.
Groups of customers getting in, demanding to keep the bar open until the end of the curfew (4 am) ...
Ok, what can I do, I think we have to 'suffer' this curfew :):):). As we all know - life is so hard!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
On the other hand you are obeying to government orders:
helping the people to observe the curfew not letting them go out till 4a.m.:)
[QUOTE=Giotto]Mr. Marketing Director,
Not yet ... good idea, curfew extension forever !!!
Its packed here again right now - I am laughing my ass off. Obviously the word of mouth is around that there is at least some action here in Soi 33.
Groups of customers getting in, demanding to keep the bar open until the end of the curfew (4 am) ...
Ok, what can I do, I think we have to 'suffer' this curfew :):):). As we all know - life is so hard!
Giotto[/QUOTE]
errrrr..... short time room at the Liverstone?
Special to 4 am room?
SEAJ
[quote=se asia joe]errrrr..... short time room at the liverstone?
special to 4 am room?
...
[/quote]se asia joe,
no such thing at livingstone's. but available around the corner - peep inn :) !
giotto
ps:
peep inn is the hotel where you always stay. that one with the plastic chairs.
[quote=giotto]ps:
peep inn is the hotel where you always stay. that one with the plastic chairs.[/quote]
these are in urgent need of fixing btw... i hear the chairs have a big hole in the middle...
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]These are in urgent need of fixing BTW... I hear the Chairs have a BIG hole in the Middle...[/QUOTE]Groggy,
How can you know??? ... I understand!!! ... :)
Giotto
Giotto, are you buying second-hand plastic chairs from Akane now?
It seems that your talks with the PM went well, eh?
[quote=giotto]se asia joe,
no such thing at livingstone's. but available around the corner - peep inn :) !
giotto
ps:
peep inn is the hotel where you always stay. that one with the plastic chairs.[/quote]
ahhhh.... i see.
you've also taken over the peep inn huh?
seaj
I have a plane ticket and nowhere to stay... Can I assume the Sports Bar is still open and well-stocked?
Giotto,
Soon I will be on my way, when I get there, I will remind you it is me.
A Yank is coming!
[QUOTE=Giotto]SE Asia Joe,
Economy still bad? No buyers for your plastic chairs?
As you know - it's not for us, we prefer Teakwood chairs :) !
Giotto[/QUOTE]The guests of the restaurant and the Sports Lounge came from Novotel Lotus (too boring) and Renoir (closed). I plaid pool with Alex (Renoir) until right now, and outside people were having fun in the pool, girls, guys.
Its that time of year again and time to book my holidays.
Whats the situation in BKK like now?
Are things still very quiet there? Any more riots?
Any info would be great.
[QUOTE=Mick Ireland 1]Its that time of year again and time to book my holidays.
Whats the situation in BKK like now?
Are things still very quiet there? Any more riots?
Any info would be great.[/QUOTE]
Everything quiet, you wouldn't know anything had been going on unless you look carefully. Check out the main Bangkok thread.
(It wouldn't surprise me if there is some sort of incident involving the noisy c*nt in the room next door though, not only does he appear to have brought a herd of buffaloes with him, the poor girl he was with last night had to endure about 4 hours of his non-stop chatter. Mind you at least she was getting paid for it.)
After years of planning, designing, checking, re-designing, checking, changing the web designer company, planning, designing ... we finally activated our new Livingstone's Lodge website today.
Please - check it out and give me a feedback.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]After years of planning, designing, checking, re-designing, checking, changing the web designer company, planning, designing ... we finally activated our new Livingstone's Lodge website today.
Please - check it out and give me a feedback.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
Well done, Dr. G. Looks real good and nice interface. I think there is one typo. It should be "The Livingstone's Entrance on Sukhumvit 33" instead of "The Livingstone's Entrance in Sukhumvit 33"
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Well done, Dr. G. Looks real good and nice interface. I think there is one typo. It should be "The Livingstone's Entrance on Sukhumvit 33" instead of "The Livingstone's Entrance in Sukhumvit 33"[/QUOTE]Thanks, Duni.
Not a typo - bad German English :) !
Will be corrected soon ...
Giotto
Giotto, Very nice pictures and web sight.. Just change the wording that was just mentioned. Looking forward to another visit after the first of the year.
[QUOTE=Giotto]After years of planning, designing, checking, re-designing, checking, changing the web designer company, planning, designing ... we finally activated our new Livingstone's Lodge website today.
Please - check it out and give me a feedback.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice and honest pics.
The pic of the jakuzzi doesn't really show how huge it is, though. Would be better to put a little flash movie of Miss X and Miss Y with the underwater-lightshow on ;)
[QUOTE=Giotto]Thanks, Duni.
Not a typo - bad German English :) !
Will be corrected soon ...
Giotto[/QUOTE]
A real Typo: The Street name Daeng Udo_ is missing its final "m" on Map page. Udo looks like an Italian word or part of the manager's name? ;) Only someone who knows Thai would probably notice. Udom is a common word in Thai names.
However, I am impressed, by a site well done.
It is a very fine site.
Being horribly picky, I didn't feel I quite understood the observation on the home page that "Livingstone's will be rated "Best Value For Money" Venue". Will it? By whom? Who says?
I notice also that you don't choose to draw attention to the full range of added-value options at the Lodge. I am sure this was a thoughtful and considered choice on your part.
Hope that helps. All good wishes.
Nice job, G.
I might have to come in and say hello with Mini Me.
[QUOTE=Reporter2010]
I notice also that you don't choose to draw attention to the full range of added-value options at the Lodge. I am sure this was a thoughtful and considered choice on your part.
Hope that helps. All good wishes.[/QUOTE]
I fully agree and always noticed that also on the previous website.
This even enabled me to charge a short stay in my travel expenses as anybody in accounting, curious and visiting the LL home page, would not have found much, lol
Unless he is a monger too and visits regularly ISG, lmao!
But in that case a simple question; "how do you know?" could create camradery and the end of any further question (or maybe some indication on latest arrivals):)
[QUOTE=Reporter2010]...
Being horribly picky, I didn't feel I quite understood the observation on the home page that "Livingstone's will be rated "Best Value For Money" Venue". Will it? By whom? Who says?
I notice also that you don't choose to draw attention to the full range of added-value options at the Lodge. I am sure this was a thoughtful and considered choice on your part.
...
[/QUOTE]Reporter2010,
Thanks. This "Best Value For Money" bullshit will be removed - somehow I missed it...
The idea behind the new design was to take out all hints reg. the events and girls, to make it easier for business travelers to book our hotel rooms. All infos about "added-value options" can be found here in the ISG.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto]Reporter2010,
Thanks. This "Best Value For Money" bullshit will be removed - somehow I missed it...
The idea behind the new design was to take out all hints reg. the events and girls, to make it easier for business travelers to book our hotel rooms. All infos about "added-value options" can be found here in the ISG.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
The new web site is really nice and IMHO is an accurate reflection of the facility. The one thing you can't show on an internet page is the hospitality shown to your guests! I can't wait for my next visit!
Hi there,
Checking back, its been a long time since anyone posted a field report (seems since the troubles). Not my first time in BKK but am checking to LL for the first time on Thursday for a couple of nights and just wanted to see if the SB was still active?
Thanks
... only worry though is the Sports bar really big enough to be able to hold the Belgian Grand Prix in it ??
Well done.
E.
[QUOTE=Excess]... only worry though is the Sports bar really big enough to be able to hold the Belgian Grand Prix in it ??
Well done.
E.[/QUOTE]
It can, they run 1/42 scale models :)
but..who is going to be impersonating Mr Max Mosley (in case he returns to GP's?)
[QUOTE=Ian Oxon]Hi there,
Checking back, its been a long time since anyone posted a field report (seems since the troubles). Not my first time in BKK but am checking to LL for the first time on Thursday for a couple of nights and just wanted to see if the SB was still active?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Ian Oxon,
Sure, still open. Whether active, hmmm, we had better times, there are not too many customers here in Bangkok right now.
Still - the bar is open. Get over here!
Giotto
It's been very quiet here. I hope all is well at the lodge and the sports bar.
May the economy pick up and every body get rich.
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim]It's been very quiet here. I hope all is well at the lodge and the sports bar.
May the economy pick up and every body get rich.
Slim[/QUOTE]Nvslim,
Business was a catastrophe until mid of August. Its right now getting better - hopefully it stays like this. It was a real frustrating time before.
Now we have 20 + girls again in the Sports Lounge - and the customers are back too. Looks good at the moment, not too busy but a good crowd. No complaints :) ...
Hope to c u soon back at the Lodge.
Giotto
Hi Giotto,
I'm making a rare visit to Thailand this week. Unfortunately I have to stay elsewhere due to Company requirements, but hopefully I will get down to see the famous place for a beer.
What time does the SB open and shut?
WM
[QUOTE=Wolfie Mike]Hi Giotto,
I'm making a rare visit to Thailand this week. Unfortunately I have to stay elsewhere due to Company requirements, but hopefully I will get down to see the famous place for a beer.
What time does the SB open and shut?
WM[/QUOTE]Wolfie Mike,
The girls come to work at 5 pm, usually customers come around 7 pm.
The bar closes at 1 am.
C U.
Giotto
Before I went to Livingstone's, I had become rather jaded towards Thailand in general and with the area around Nana Plaza (Soi 4, Soi 5, Soi 7, Soi 7/1) in particular. After my freaky night in Bangkok which I dutifully recorded in the Bangkok Reports thread, I was weirded out with Thailand. After my great experiences in Haiti and China, I was rather down on Thailand. I stayed at Livingstone's around the first week of September and there for three days.
All in all, Livingstone's restored my liking for Thailand. While I was there, I accomplished absolutely nothing ... which is good. I wanted and need a rest and Livingstone's certainly accomplished that. It is extremely relaxing and comforting. Giotto is a great conversationalist but there is a caveat. Like me, he likes to talk about a great variety of subjects and not just about BJs, BJ bars, etc. If you are into intelligent conversation, Giotto is delightful. I also met NicFrenchy who is also a great guy.
Breakfast did not seem to have a time limit and you are able to have breakfast right night to the pool, a delight in itself. The breakfast is ordered by checking off a list of what you would like. I was confused by the term "Farmer Bread" but it turned out to be slices of French bread, at least that is what it looked like to me. The staff were very nice and accomodating there as well.
The night I was at the Sports Bar, it was rather busy. Of course, sports in general bores me to tears and football ... well, let us say I am adverse to football, soccer, etc. However, I did meet a nice girl, about 28. She was not the prettiest girl I have ever seen there but there was something that I did really like about her. We switched back and forth from Thai to English in our conversation. I decided to "keep" her. The bar fine is an amazingly 1,000 baht (especially as the baht is soaring in value, and is 1,500 before 11:00 p.m.!!!) and the all night rate was 2,500 baht, However, it was worth every satang of it. She was simply great in bed, a veritable tigress. She really knows how to do it. You will have to ask Giotto who she is. He will tell you, but please be nice to her.
In any case, I kept her for 3 days! She really provided the GFE which I think was sincere enough. I was, of course, very nice and respectful with her. I invited her out to lunch and dinner a lot. On my last day, she even bought me a couple of presents. No Thai girl has ever done that for me!!!
From now on, whenever I am in Bangkok, I will make Livingstone's my home.
My company embargo to visit LOS has finally been lifted; unfortunately can't stay at my favorite Inn. But looking forward to stopping over for drinks, dinner and whatever in early Oct.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]...
Like me, he likes to talk about a great variety of subjects and not just about BJs, BJ bars, etc.
...
From now on, whenever I am in Bangkok, I will make Livingstone's my home.[/QUOTE]Cunning Linguist,
BESTARD!
Admit it - we only talked about BJs, BJ bars, etc. - and "farmers bread" :) . But to talk to you is anyway difficult - you always use at least 5 languages simultaneously.
Anyway - good to meet you, come back soon.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist]Before I went to Livingstone's, I had become rather jaded towards Thailand in general and with the area around Nana Plaza (Soi 4, Soi 5, Soi 7, Soi 7/1) in particular. After my freaky night in Bangkok which I dutifully recorded in the Bangkok Reports thread, I was weirded out with Thailand. After my great experiences in Haiti and China, I was rather down on Thailand. I stayed at Livingstone's around the first week of September and there for three days.
All in all, Livingstone's restored my liking for Thailand. While I was there, I accomplished absolutely nothing ... which is good. I wanted and need a rest and Livingstone's certainly accomplished that. It is extremely relaxing and comforting. Giotto is a great conversationalist but there is a caveat. Like me, he likes to talk about a great variety of subjects and not just about BJs, BJ bars, etc. If you are into intelligent conversation, Giotto is delightful. I also met NicFrenchy who is also a great guy.
Breakfast did not seem to have a time limit and you are able to have breakfast right night to the pool, a delight in itself. The breakfast is ordered by checking off a list of what you would like. I was confused by the term "Farmer Bread" but it turned out to be slices of French bread, at least that is what it looked like to me. The staff were very nice and accomodating there as well.
The night I was at the Sports Bar, it was rather busy. Of course, sports in general bores me to tears and football ... well, let us say I am adverse to football, soccer, etc. However, I did meet a nice girl, about 28. She was not the prettiest girl I have ever seen there but there was something that I did really like about her. We switched back and forth from Thai to English in our conversation. I decided to "keep" her. The bar fine is an amazingly 1,000 baht (especially as the baht is soaring in value, and is 1,500 before 11:00 p.m.!!!) and the all night rate was 2,500 baht, However, it was worth every satang of it. She was simply great in bed, a veritable tigress. She really knows how to do it. You will have to ask Giotto who she is. He will tell you, but please be nice to her.
In any case, I kept her for 3 days! She really provided the GFE which I think was sincere enough. I was, of course, very nice and respectful with her. I invited her out to lunch and dinner a lot. On my last day, she even bought me a couple of presents. No Thai girl has ever done that for me!!!
From now on, whenever I am in Bangkok, I will make Livingstone's my home.[/QUOTE]Newbie to Thailand and Giotto's place.
Two questions, how much is the ST rate and what time does the girl stay until the next morning with TLN. Am I correct in that at 1500 BF and 2500 TLN that works out to approx. $131. USD? Ouch.
[QUOTE=Cunning Linguist] Giotto is a great conversationalist but there is a caveat. Like me, he likes to talk about a great variety of subjects and not just about BJs, BJ bars, etc. If you are into intelligent conversation, Giotto is delightful. I also met NicFrenchy who is also a great guy.
[/QUOTE]
Was a pleasure Meeting you, be sure to let me know next time you pop in the Lodge, i'll come over for a Coffee
[QUOTE=Manizales911]Newbie to Thailand and Giotto's place.
Two questions, how much is the ST rate and what time does the girl stay until the next morning with TLN. Am I correct in that at 1500 BF and 2500 TLN that works out to approx. $131. USD? Ouch.[/QUOTE]
The Bar fine is 1500 before 11:00 p.m. and 1000 after 11. I understand it goes down further around closing time if I am not mistaken.
I don't know about short time but I imagine it would be around 1500 but I don't know. It is subject to negotiation. The long time fee would be between 2,000 and 3,000 baht though there are some that pay more though I doubt less. However, you get what you pay for. The service was much better than in other places (e.g. Nana) but that is MY experience. Your mileage may vary.
I'm not sure if this is the appropriate thread or not. But I wanted post a quick thanks for a wonderful stay.
I just left Bangkok this morning after a very short two-day stay; and I must say, I really enjoyed staying at the lodge.
This was my first time in Bangkok alone. And was my first chance to experience the hobby in that city. I'm glad I listened to all the positive posts here and decided to stay at Livingstone's. It was a nice balance to the craziness at Soi Cowboy and Patpong I experienced during my first night out (I didn't even get to Nana. Got lost LOL). To be honest, I would have been more than satisfied spending both evenings in your Sports Bar. I had a lot of fun last night and it was a pleasure meeting a particular someone as well as the rest of the girls.
I visited Bangkok once before as a vanilla tourist and my final reaction then was I didn't really care to return; but after this visit, I'm surprised to say that I actually miss Bangkok.
G.
Returned to LOS after 1 year hiatus - stopped by and had dinner & drinks at the Sports Bar. Lots of different faces, new girls but same great service. My wingman is staying at G's, and BF a girl 10 minutes after sitting down.
Unfortunately I had to go home alone to make some family and business calls....although Mrs. G did point out a very young, tall and long legged beauty. Mr. G was overseas attending to other business.
[QUOTE=Golly Woggle]I'm not sure if this is the appropriate thread or not. But I wanted post a quick thanks for a wonderful stay.
I just left Bangkok this morning after a very short two-day stay; and I must say, I really enjoyed staying at the lodge.
...
[/QUOTE]Golly Woggle,
glad you liked it ... and sorry that I missed you, I was in China for a few days.
Next time ... :)
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Traveler1234]Returned to LOS after 1 year hiatus - stopped by and had dinner & drinks at the Sports Bar. Lots of different faces, new girls but same great service. My wingman is staying at G's, and BF a girl 10 minutes after sitting down.
...
[/QUOTE]Mr. Marketing Director,
BASTARD! First - not showing up for work for more than a year, and then sneaking into the Lodge when I am not there ... that's too much!
Move your a... over here, bastard :) !
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
Thailand the land of smiles. Should be the land of the vertical smile. Was in Bangkok for only about 48 hours. Stayed at Livingstones. Just can't beat Giotto and crew. Great location the Jr Suite with the bath tub for two really improved the performance of the local talent. Just jump into the tub with the jets on. Lots of bubble bath. Champagne
Did go to Eden there had been so many positive reviews and it is a great place to spend an afternoon. Eden should be listed in the 7 sexual wonders in the world. With 18 Spa in Macau.
Cowboy is fun but the good news of the Japanese being in Bangkok is they are paying the talent more. Sol 33 by Livingstones has several little clubs for the Japanese. Picked up a girl on the street on her way to work. Took her for short time and it was so good made a deal to pick her up at 1:00 AM. For the night. The sports bar at Livingstones is always good.
Livingstone’s Lodge
I am once again settled into Bangkok. This report is mostly for the new guys looking to come to Bangkok and really have no idea where to start on their adventure here. I’m sure the seasoned mongers will snicker to themselves as they read this but I think that there are a lot of lurkers that are trying to learn exactly what and where to go once they get here. If we all remember our first time in Thailand it was pretty much over whelming.
This is where, in my opinion, Livingstone’s comes into play, staying here is like having the ultimate Travel Agent/Advisor all in one, whether you tap the fountain of information that is the headmaster of Livingstone’s (Giotto) or the other mongers you meet here, it will give you a handle on how to control the sensory overload you experience when you first get here.
I know that there is probably going to be a lot of mockery from the old veterans, but I think that this issue needs to be brought up occasionally to help the upcoming group of guys starting out. It’s really easy to take Livingstone’s and Giotto’s crew for granted; they make it so easy to enjoy yourself when you get here. There are many nights I never leave the Lodge because Giotto has made it so easy to benefit from all he has to offer there. It’s a great place to start off from and of course to come back to after the affairs of the day. Giotto never forces anything on anybody but you would have to be a fool not to tap the knowledge that he has to give. I personally have not found a better “home” in Bangkok to operate out of, Giotto has done all the legwork as far as information that you need to know when you get here, take advantage of it and most importantly, don’t fall in love with your first “experience”, the girls here will treat you like no other place you have been, but remember for them it’s just business as usual, just treat them with respect and 95% of the time you will get it in return.
Coming to Livingstone’s is like going on an all inclusive Cruise Ship with Bangkok being the Ocean.
I don’t have any interest in Livingstone’s except that I appreciate a first class operation and always look forward to coming back here. Now all you veterans let it fly!
Weird One
[QUOTE=Weird One]Livingstone’s Lodge
I am once again settled into Bangkok. This report is mostly for the new guys looking to come to Bangkok and really have no idea where to start on their adventure here. I’m sure the seasoned mongers will snicker to themselves as they read this but I think that there are a lot of lurkers that are trying to learn exactly what and where to go once they get here. If we all remember our first time in Thailand it was pretty much over whelming.
This is where, in my opinion, Livingstone’s comes into play, staying here is like having the ultimate Travel Agent/Advisor all in one, whether you tap the fountain of information that is the headmaster of Livingstone’s (Giotto) or the other mongers you meet here, it will give you a handle on how to control the sensory overload you experience when you first get here.
I know that there is probably going to be a lot of mockery from the old veterans, but I think that this issue needs to be brought up occasionally to help the upcoming group of guys starting out. It’s really easy to take Livingstone’s and Giotto’s crew for granted; they make it so easy to enjoy yourself when you get here. There are many nights I never leave the Lodge because Giotto has made it so easy to benefit from all he has to offer there. It’s a great place to start off from and of course to come back to after the affairs of the day. Giotto never forces anything on anybody but you would have to be a fool not to tap the knowledge that he has to give. I personally have not found a better “home” in Bangkok to operate out of, Giotto has done all the legwork as far as information that you need to know when you get here, take advantage of it and most importantly, don’t fall in love with your first “experience”, the girls here will treat you like no other place you have been, but remember for them it’s just business as usual, just treat them with respect and 95% of the time you will get it in return.
Coming to Livingstone’s is like going on an all inclusive Cruise Ship with Bangkok being the Ocean.
I don’t have any interest in Livingstone’s except that I appreciate a first class operation and always look forward to coming back here. Now all you veterans let it fly!
Weird One[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more!
One thing has to be improved!
Definetely!
I always have a hard time (no pun intended) to open the jam/marmalade container for breakfast!
The matter has to be addressed!
Giotto and Guido, please combine forces....
other than that, my 30hrs stay of this week and the 3 days of last week have been great
Staff is always nice and helpful, very attentive too.
The Sports Bar girls are also nice and respect is owed to all of them.
There is a newby in the group from this week
The report from my wingman who had the opportunity to stay with her monday night has been positive.
And mine was postive too: good conversionalist in english too, attentive in the room and enjoying being pleased.
I might be pop in 2 weeks for just an overnight, not much expected other than a friendly enviroment! Not to be taken for granted when traveling around
[QUOTE=Cdndriftwood]Thailand the land of smiles. Should be the land of the vertical smile. Was in Bangkok for only about 48 hours. Stayed at Livingstones. Just can't beat Giotto and crew. Great location the Jr Suite with the bath tub for two really improved the performance of the local talent. Just jump into the tub with the jets on. Lots of bubble bath. Champagne
...
[/QUOTE]Cdndriftwood,
Thanks for staying with us (though I have no idea who you are :) ).
Can you guys please come down to my desk (outside, between hotel bar and swimming pool, I really suffer a hard life :) ) and introduce yourself? Otherwise I have no idea who is writing here ...
Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
Stayed at Livingstones about a month or so ago, my second stay. First time was in march this year.
As enjoyable as my first stay - I really like the facilities. The Sports bar was great, I enjoyed being beaten at pool by the nice ladies.
Ah man, I need a holiday. Wish you guys would stop talking about the place.
[QUOTE=Bionicman]One thing has to be improved!
Definetely!
I always have a hard time (no pun intended) to open the jam/marmalade container for breakfast!
The matter has to be addressed!
Giotto and Guido, please combine forces....
...
[/QUOTE]Seriously, Bionicman,
what do we have to do with your jam/marmalade container in the morning?
I strictly refuse to get involved. The concept is: Take a girl out at night, and during breakfast she will open your "containers" ... hopefully all of them :).
BASTARD!!!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Seriously, Bionicman,
what do we have to do with your jam/marmalade container in the morning?
I strictly refuse to get involved. The concept is: Take a girl out at night, and during breakfast she will open your "containers" ... hopefully all of them :).
BASTARD!!!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
that's a good strategy!
I might pass by for an overnight next monday
book me a girl for the Sports Bar, one of your choice, I am not so picky to be willing to select a jam/marmalade container opener.
Make sure there are some marmaladecontainers (not apricot, on this I am picky!) in the room already or whatever those little small portion in a soft tin are called.
I'll keep her for the night so I can teach and train her how to handle that and I shall return it to the establishment in the morning after fully skilled.
I trust her presence with be complimentary!
Oooooops..ok..ok I just tried!
Maybe see you (again) next week for the 3rd time in... 4 weeks
Lufthansa and Thai give me miles... as a frequent flyer...by the way (just a hint)
take care
[QUOTE=Bionicman]that's a good strategy!
I might pass by for an overnight next monday
...
take care[/QUOTE]arrived quite late last night for a short time stay. Still in time to catch a repeat at the bar :)
And, despite all odds of taking breakfast alone, I managed with the jam container opening: life is not so bad!
Heqading abck to europe with good memories of 3 stays at LL in appr 4 weeks.
See you next year, folks!
Hi G,
I'll be landing on Nov 2 - can I get the discount still ? I know it says ends on Oct 31 but I thought I'd try.
GC
[QUOTE=Global Citizen]Hi G,
I'll be landing on Nov 2 - can I get the discount still ? I know it says ends on Oct 31 but I thought I'd try.
GC[/QUOTE]Global Citizen,
The low-season after-red-shirt-protest discount ends on 31.10.2010.
This ISG discount will be prolonged, and prolonged - endlessly :) :
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=869143&postcount=19[/URL]
C U .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Bionicman]One thing has to be improved!
Definetely!
I always have a hard time (no pun intended) to open the jam/marmalade container for breakfast!
The matter has to be addressed![/QUOTE]Bionicman,
Your are totally right. I am staying the first time here at the Lodge and I had my problem with the marmelade too. I was about to throw them into the pool LOL
Apart from that, I enjoy my stay here very much. It is really a little oasis in a very busy city. Now sitting at the pool, looking at lovely ladies, having a beer or two. Life can be worse.
Timewind
[QUOTE=Timewind]Bionicman,
Your are totally right. I am staying the first time here at the Lodge and I had my problem with the marmelade too. I was about to throw them into the pool LOL
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[/QUOTE]Ok, ok,
Before this becomes a serious issue and will be discussed on the front page of "The Times" - we will take marmelade off the breakfast menu!!! No problems with any "container" any more :) ...
Don't you have other problems, you BESTARDS :) ???
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Ok, ok,
Before this becomes a serious issue and will be discussed on the front page of "The Times" - we will take marmelade off the breakfast menu!!! No problems with any "container" any more :) ...
Don't you have other problems, you BESTARDS :) ???
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
If I were you I would be happy your guests have only problems as such!
We shall not report this to red shirts, don't worry.
LL is indeed an oasis in the centre of the city.
I forgot to mention the great attitude of the girls at the Sports Bar, but I know it is none of your business. Your mission is the marmalade container.
You have a mission by overwhelming demand!
Hello Giotto,
I read your report on using the Airport Link train a while back, and was considering using it (although will be pretty wrecked by the time I fly in).
I then found the Airport Express bus, which drops off at a few of the larger multinational hotels for THB150. As you seem to be relatively close to some of these hotels (Sukhumvit Soi 20 -Novotel Hotel, Sukhumvit seem to be closest according to google maps), is this a viable way to get to the lodge from the airport in the mid afternoon, or would you recommend the train or taxi (they both seem to get mixed reports)?
[url]http://www.bangkokairportonline.com/node/55[/url]
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]I then found the Airport Express bus, which drops off at a few of the larger multinational hotels for THB150.[/QUOTE]
It will be better than the train. AE3 goes down Sukhumvit, I'd be surprised if they didn't let you get down at soi 33, at least if you don't have a lot of luggage.
[QUOTE=Franco Cozzo]Hello Giotto,
I read your report on using the Airport Link train a while back, and was considering using it (although will be pretty wrecked by the time I fly in).
I then found the Airport Express bus, which drops off at a few of the larger multinational hotels for THB150. As you seem to be relatively close to some of these hotels (Sukhumvit Soi 20 -Novotel Hotel, Sukhumvit seem to be closest according to google maps), is this a viable way to get to the lodge from the airport in the mid afternoon, or would you recommend the train or taxi (they both seem to get mixed reports)?
[url]http://www.bangkokairportonline.com/node/55[/url][/QUOTE]Franco Cozzo,
Novotel Lotus is 50 m away from Livingstone's ... that should be ok. I don't know about a Novotel hotel in Soi 20. Soi 20 is about 500 m from here.
I would take a taxi ...
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Franco Cozzo,
Novotel Lotus is 50 m away from Livingstone's ... that should be ok. I don't know about a Novotel hotel in Soi 20. Soi 20 is about 500 m from here.
I would take a taxi ...
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
I take a taxi too to go to LL... not the end of hte world to spend some 300TB...certainly not a damage to a mongerer wallet
Frnaco Cozzo: when you are in soi 33 tell the taxi driver to go past Novotel (often they think that is your detination) by some 50mtrs, after a couple of bars you will see the LL sign (as in their web) and also two elephant teeth...:) that is your destination. You will have to walk some 20 mtrs to the inside of the alley and if it si the right time (afternoon onweard) some girls will help you. What a great way to be welcomed at LL!
[QUOTE=Bionicman]...
What a great way to be welcomed at LL![/QUOTE]Naahhh,
usually we hand out marmelade containers at the entrance :) ...
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
Well here I am in Malaysia listening to a Project Manager tell me how he got canned and then I recommend he goes to Bangkok to enjoy himself. And lo and behold what does he say but "i have been there" and describes the lodge off pat - now this is a coincidence or what and yes my impression of said individual went up a notch or so.
Now the real question is will he read this and then add the dots together !!
[QUOTE=Tamurlane26]...
Now the real question is will he read this and then add the dots together !![/QUOTE]Tamurlane26,
I think I know him ... does he have a father :) ?
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=671399[/URL]
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
He was so rusty he was unable to join the dots together so ran to the desert instead. As for the other clown the Singapore Hockey Club lost its member and he ended up trying to face off the locals in Sentosa where he lost the puck. End result he was never allowed back to the lodge.
As for our rusty friend there is still hope although having been offered a night with a TV from DiA he is beginning to wonder if the offer from Giotto of rust removal with WD40 is a possibility !!
Perhaps Santa will open the stocking early and grant him his wish
Had a Great Time with Pita123 last night and the food recommendations from Mr Guido were spot-on! I'll come back for that German Sausage dish... amazing.
Giotto, Sorry I did not say goodbye, I saw you were really busy with all these girls in the Pool.. for the Pool Party :D
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]..... recommendations from Mr Guido were spot-on! I'll come back for that German Sausage dish... amazing.[/QUOTE]
I'd watch out for the German sausage recommendations from Guido ......
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]...the food recommendations from Mr Guido ...German Sausage ...
Giotto, Sorry I did not say goodbye, I saw you were really busy with all these girls in the Pool.. for the Pool Party :D[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,
Good to see you again, you seam to be very busy lately ...
Did not watch you leaving with Mr. Guido either, I hope you had fun with the German Sausage :) .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Did not watch you leaving with Mr. Guido either, I hope you had fun with the German Sausage :) .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
HEY !!!
I am very disappointed by you and Livingstones.... You always said that it is a very Discreet Place? and you go on telling everyone about my "german Sausage" history with Mr Guido :(
I left the Pool Party even before the girls ended up in the pool... must have been an early night :D
I plan to be in Bangkok later this month. I am checking the availability of rooms at the Lodge in any case. If I do get a room, this would be my first time at the Lodge.
I have gone through most of the reports in this forum. Overwhelming !
As of now, I have a question. Like most of you, I do not like to sleep alone at night. With in-house talent available, it would always be the first choice. I wonder what the going rate, or rates, are like for the Sports women at the Lodge for a full night's sojourn.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Ghatotkach]I plan to be in Bangkok later this month. I am checking the availability of rooms at the Lodge in any case. If I do get a room, this would be my first time at the Lodge.
I have gone through most of the reports in this forum. Overwhelming !
As of now, I have a question. Like most of you, I do not like to sleep alone at night. With in-house talent available, it would always be the first choice. I wonder what the going rate, or rates, are like for the Sports women at the Lodge for a full night's sojourn.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
Sports women? The bar has evidently upped itself. Good going, Dr.G.
BF 1500 before midnight I beleive.
LT negotiable 2500+
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]HEY !!!
I am very disappointed by you and Livingstones.... You always said that it is a very Discreet Place? and you go on telling everyone about my "german Sausage" history with Mr Guido :(
I left the Pool Party even before the girls ended up in the pool... must have been an early night :D[/QUOTE]Froggy,
I don't know anything about your relationship with Mr. Guido. And I did not write anything about your relationship with Mr. Guido. And I also don't wonder why you don't write so much in the ISG any more since you are in this "relationship" with Mr. Guido. I also don't know anything about your history with Mr. Guido.
I know, that you left the Pool Party BEFORE the girls ended up in the pool. I ask myself, how you know, that the girls ended up in the pool - if you left before. But - I think somebody told you - may be Mr. Guido?
All I know is your preference for German saussages. You like German saussages. Don't you? You said so. Remember?
Guido - he likes German sauss... damned, up to you.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
PS.: He sucks [good], doesn't he?
[QUOTE=Duniawala]Sports women? The bar has evidently upped itself. Good going, Dr.G.
BF 1500 before midnight I beleive.
LT negotiable 2500+[/QUOTE]Sir,
The Barfine (let's call it FED-bailout) is 1,500.00 before 11 pm. It's 1,000.00 THB until the bar closes. After the bar closes its THB 700,00.
Compared to the 3.3 trillion USD the FED spend to bail out financial institutions, banks etc. in late 2008 our bail-out fine is really cheap (its bar fine, don't worry, same thing, different word).
Go for Bernanke - GO FOR LIVINGSTONE'S. Obama forever (ohhh ,,, may be not).
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto]Sir,
The Barfine (let's call it FED-bailout) is 1,500.00 before 11 pm. It's 1,000.00 THB until the bar closes. After the bar closes its THB 700,00.
Compared to the 3.3 trillion USD the FED spend to bail out financial institutions, banks etc. in late 2008 our bail-out fine is really cheap (its bar fine, don't worry, same thing, different word).
Go for Bernanke - GO FOR LIVINGSTONE'S. Obama forever (ohhh ,,, may be not).
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
Thanks for the correction, Dr. G. It's been a long time since I have been there.
And whats this thing going around about German and French sausages? Clarification needed. :)
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1099771]Froggy,
I don't know anything about your relationship with Mr. Guido. And I did not write anything about your relationship with Mr. Guido. And I also don't wonder why you don't write so much in the ISG any more since you are in this "relationship" with Mr. Guido. I also don't know anything about your history with Mr. Guido.
I know, that you left the Pool Party BEFORE the girls ended up in the pool. I ask myself, how you know, that the girls ended up in the pool. If you left before. But. I think somebody told you. May be Mr. Guido?
All I know is your preference for German saussages. You like German saussages. Don't you? You said so. Remember?
Guido. He likes German sauss. Damned, up to you.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
PS. : He sucks [good], doesn't he? [/QUOTE]Ok ok, that's enough. I will not even comment on that, you know us Frenchies don't bend that way. I only like the German Sausages that Mr Guido Cooks. And besides. The one that ended up in my mouth the other night was way too thin to count as a sausage. But hey, who am I to judge. Ask Pita123, he tried the sausage as well.
Hahahahaha
[QUOTE=Duniawala; 1100121]Thanks for the correction, Dr. G. It's been a long time since I have been there.
And whats this thing going around about German and French sausages? Clarification needed. . [/QUOTE]Not sure what you mean. [i]*quietly escaping through the back door*[/i]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1103733]Ok ok, that's enough. I will not even comment on that, you know us Frenchies don't bend that way. I only like the German Sausages that Mr Guido Cooks. And besides. The one that ended up in my mouth the other night was way too thin to count as a sausage. But hey, who am I to judge. Ask Pita123, he tried the sausage as well.
Hahahahaha[/QUOTE]Oysters are really my preferred taste. Tonight going to fry up some Argentinan sausages.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1103736]Not sure what you mean. [i]*quietly escaping through the back door*[/i][/quote]Did you need to get the key from Guido?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1103733]Ok ok, that's enough. ... German Sausages ... Mr Guido ...ended up in my mouth ...[/QUOTE]Froggy,
Yep, that's really enough! No more details, please :) !
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1104325]Froggy,
Yep, that's really enough! No more details, please. !
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[/QUOTE]That "Quote" was tainted! You really have a gift for manipulating the truth LOL.
OK, Fine, next time I come I will force you to eat that German Sausage all on your own. .
Here is wishing all at the Lodge a Happy and Prosperous New Year.
May your worst days in 2011 be better than your best days in 2010.
Slim.
P. S.
Another year slipped by and I still have not made it to BKK. Maybe 2011 will be my year.
Note: Header in first message did not translate properly.
Wishing you all at the Livingstone a very happy and prosperous new year.
-D
Wishing all our friends and customers out there a Happy New Year 2011. May you all stay healthy and experience some happy moments this year.
Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.
Giotto.
PS: Froggy, may you overcome your "Sausomania" this year and re-convert.... continuing your monger life as before!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1107744]Wishing all our friends and customers out there a Happy New Year 2011. May you all stay healthy and experience some happy moments this year.
Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.
Giotto.
PS: Froggy, may you overcome your "Sausomania" this year and re-convert. Continuing your monger life as before![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1107744]Wishing all our friends and customers out there a Happy New Year 2011. May you all stay healthy and experience some happy moments this year.
Hope to see you back at the Lodge soon.
Giotto.
PS: Froggy, may you overcome your "Sausomania" this year and re-convert. Continuing your monger life as before! [/QUOTE]Thanks for the greetings! I look forward to my next visit and soon! I truly enjoyed the hospitality!
[QUOTE=Giotto;1107744]PS: Froggy, may you overcome your "Sausomania" this year and re-convert.... continuing your monger life as before![/QUOTE]Well, why blame me because I like the German Sausage that's on your menu? And so well recommended By Mr Guido?
And yes, I am kind of back to Mongering but maybe not as often as before. You can expect a few reports here and there
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1107984]Well, why blame me because I like the German Sausage that's on your menu? And so well recommended By Mr Guido?
[/QUOTE]Froggy,
Mr. Guido again, that's already a kind of obsession.
And. The German Sausage on our menu is FOOD. That's a complete different thing. ! You should ask ... ahemm ... Guido!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1108152]The German Sausage on our menu is FOOD.[/QUOTE]Yes, that's what I am referring to, the FOOD. What the hell were you thinking?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1108292]Yes, that's what I am referring to, the FOOD. What the hell were you thinking?[/QUOTE]Froggy,
Nice try. But we both know the truth :) .
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1108309]Froggy,
Nice try. But we both know the truth. .
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[/QUOTE]And now everybody knows. .
I did try to steer the frog toward the young calf cream sauce I so enjoyed. But he stuck with the old German sausage.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1108833]I did try to steer the frog toward the young calf cream sauce I so enjoyed. But he stuck with the old German sausage.[/QUOTE]Yep,
That's what I thought. It's so sad.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1109023]Yep,
That's what I thought. [b]It's so sad. [/b]
Giotto.
[/QUOTE]There! I got it. I was wondering why you were so interested. I GOT IT now. You are just jealous and sad because I took a sausage that was allocated to you. Well if that's the case, I will have 2 sausages next time.
And for the record, Mr Pita123 was really ogling the sausage. I tried to offer him a piece but I think he was scared of the Reaction of the Boss. So Mr Giotto? Anything we should know?
[QUOTE=Duniawala;1108594]And now everybody knows. .[/QUOTE]Yeah, looks like I'm proper fucked now. .
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1109144]There! I got it. I was wondering why you were so interested. I GOT IT now. You are just jealous and sad because I took a sausage that was allocated to you. Well if that's the case, I will have 2 sausages next time.
So Mr Giotto? Anything we should know? [/QUOTE]Froggy,
Strategy of distraction? Nice try again.
2 sausages next time. Livingstone's will be a gay club soon. What a shame. . . :)
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1109203]Livingstone's will be a gay club soon. [/QUOTE]Ah really? A new fantasy of yours? See, I always told you you should follow your dreams and talk openly about your preferences. Well, looks like you have finally decided to tell us all the truth.
Good luck with the Gay Club, I'll stick to the ladies (if you don't mind)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1109255]..., I'll stick to the ladies (if you don't mind)[/QUOTE]Yep.
The queens :) ...
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
I was 4 Nights in Livingstone in January. Really good location, clean, and the staff is polite and usefull. They have Tiger draft beer, and the Thai cuisine is good.
I think that I will stay there again next time that I will be in BKK (hopefully soon! .
Just out of sheer curiosity. Till when is the Sports Lounge open? And do the lovely girls I read about in this forum have a closing time?
[QUOTE=Ghatotkach;1117523]Just out of sheer curiosity. Till when is the Sports Lounge open? And do the lovely girls I read about in this forum have a closing time?[/QUOTE]1 AM and up to them (and you).
Naw,
I'm joking. This is an Oklahoma Rat. Bangkok Rats are wussies and quite small in comparison. :)
Hi,
Firstly hope I spelt it properly. I am considering coming over during the 2nd Week April. Work dates set the timing.
Are there any special concerns during this time?
Getting the suasage wet it expected!
Seriously though, shall I try to shift my visit? I come to BKK for girls and great food and beer.
Boater Bot
I should pop in at the LL during the Songkran festivities, Sunday night to wend morning.
As I am familiar with the celebrations, apart getting eventually wet in the pool area, LOL, how is it going in general at the Lodge and sports bar? Business as usual? Worth walking to Nana from there? Or better enjoy inhouse or soi 33 facilities only?
A word of advice will be useful to many.
Thanks
[QUOTE=PosterLion; 1118546]Naw,
I'm joking. This is an Oklahoma Rat. Bangkok Rats are wussies and quite small in comparison. .
[ATTACH=CONFIG]145967[/ATTACH][/QUOTE]In case you can't tell its a gator with a wild boar in its mouth.
Slim
Hi Giotto.
I too may be back at LL April 9-15, Will the Sports Bar girls be there or do they all go home for vacation?
Thanks,
P
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1121880]Hi,
Firstly hope I spelt it properly. I am considering coming over during the 2nd Week April. Work dates set the timing.
Are there any special concerns during this time?
Getting the suasage wet it expected!
Seriously though, shall I try to shift my visit? I come to BKK for girls and great food and beer.
Boater Bot[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1122115]I should pop in at the LL during the Songkran festivities, Sunday night to wend morning.
As I am familiar with the celebrations, apart getting eventually wet in the pool area, LOL, how is it going in general at the Lodge and sports bar? Business as usual? Worth walking to Nana from there? Or better enjoy inhouse or soi 33 facilities only?
[/QUOTE]Bionicman,
Songkran. Business as usual here at the Lodge. Normally lots of customers, hopping from bar to bar.
I personally would NOT walk from here to Nana during that time period. But that depends on your personal preferences. If you like to take an hours long shower in public. . Songkran is everywhere, but especially in the bar areas (Nana, Cowboy, Soi 33).
It's always fun to sit outside at the entrance and watch the Thais playing on the street. That's basically enough Songkran for me.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Plasmids; 1122244]Hi Giotto.
I too may be back at LL April 9-15, Will the Sports Bar girls be there or do they all go home for vacation?
[/QUOTE]Hi, Plasmids,
Most of them will be here, some will be bar-fined from returning customers. And a few go home to their families.
Should be business as usual.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Boater Boy; 1121880].
Getting the suasage wet it expected!
[/QUOTE]Boater Boy,
I cannot commend on the sausages. Please contact NicFrenchy, he is the sausage "special"ist. .
Be prepared that it is a wet season. And if you walk around you cannot avoid to get wet. Mobiles and money in a plastic bag / cover. And then it is basically great fun.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
First time in Thailand. Spent 1 week with wife at Park Plaza (very nice). Now without wife at Livingstone's Lodge (on day 8 of 9 here).
First of all finding the hotel is very simple and yet the taxi driver will not know the name so you can tell him the Novotel Lotus on Soi 33. Looking just past the Lotus, the taxi driver and I missed the hotel first time around the block because it is just a driveway and two large elephant tusk in front (which stick out less than you would think.) The hotel is set back. After exploring the hotel a bit is seems much larger than the 20 rooms that they specify in the brochure. The general condition of everything is very good, if I had to guess I would rate 3. 5 stars. Décor in the bathrooms can be a little dark (see their pictures). But, what sets the hotel apart is the incredible friendliness of the staff. I do not mean just a polite service type friendly – I mean more like friends you know and can confide in. Everyone goes out of their way to give advice and ask what you are up to. Also, it is very easy to talk to other guest (because we all here have a lot in common). Of course, you can quite openly ask the staff anything. The attitude here is that this is your holiday; you want to relax and have a good time without worry.
I find the food to be very good where ever I go in BKK. Livingstone's is no exception. They are especially good with the Thai food.
In the evening, there are about 9 ladies working in the hotel sports bar. Most of them are very very attractive, all are higher class then the typical bar girl and all seem to provide the GFE (I tried 3 of them). There is NO pressure to buy drinks or to take one of these ladies. Every night the ladies dress in a different theme (traditional Thai, maid, long gown etc). It is quite nice to see them all in a coordinated dress. One of the most enjoyable experiences is to start the night with a lady at the hotel restaurant by ordering a Hot Pot. Your lady will do all the work preparing the food and serving you. It's delicious and just a pleasure. Yes, life can be good! In the room, these ladies do not immediately 'go to work', rather there seems to be a little courting required before you see the passion come out. It works for me.
I was not around for one of their monthly swimming pool parties, so I have no idea how that would be. There is a smoking building (the main one) and an out building for non smokers (me).
Location is great. On this street, Soi 33, is a number of upscale hostess bars as well as massage places. A few places have live music. During the heat of the day, what better way to spend 1 or 2 hours than an excellent massage. Ask 'Sum' (the boss' girlfriend and manager) for recommendations for massage places.
The rooms are on the large side. I was upgraded to a junior sweet because my deluxe room was not ready at the time I arrived. That room was huge with a double Jacuzzi. Unfortunately, I ended up leaving it two days later because of problems with the air conditioner (now fixed). Since I did not want to wait for the repair, I moved into a 'superior' room (the smallest room). This room is much smaller and no separate shower but, like I said, the rooms run large so this is no problem for me.
The next street over, Soi 31, has several great restaurants also (especially the Sushi restaurant 'O' something).
Would I stay here again? Well, if I wanted to relax, talk to people, have immediate access to really nice ladies, have a hotel with a very good restaurant, close to other restaurants, close to sky train and subway etc at a fair price then yes. Was it a 5 star hotel that you want to use to impress business associates? – No (well, I guess it depends what their interest is).
[QUOTE=TOMtravels;1122759]Ask 'Sum' (the boss' girlfriend and manager) for recommendations for massage places.[/QUOTE]Always appears to me that Som is the boss. . . .
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1122408]Bionicman,
Songkran. Business as usual here at the Lodge. Normally lots of customers, hopping from bar to bar.
I personally would NOT walk from here to Nana during that time period. But that depends on your personal preferences. If you like to take an hours long shower in public. . Songkran is everywhere, but especially in the bar areas (Nana, Cowboy, Soi 33).
It's always fun to sit outside at the entrance and watch the Thais playing on the street. That's basically enough Songkran for me.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Wet days are in the agenda. I know, same as eventually taking a cab to move to Soi 4 (to check the water there too!)
Hope to survive the walk from taxi to reception, though as I arrive on 10th late in the evening (will Songkran already on then?)
Anyhow, Guido is getting my booking, so count for one sure guest from ISG.
Happy b'day, Giotto! A significant, round number this year? :)
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1123020]Happy b'day, Giotto! A significant, round number this year? :)[/QUOTE]Thanks,
Na, no round number. Getting younger every year now. .
Giotto
Happy Birthday Dr. G. Hope your Birthday was full of nubile women of disrepute. :)
Belated birthday wishes. Hope all is well.
Happy birthday, many more to come.
Just my luck to arrive on a national holiday today. Really quiet on the streets. Is Livingstones sports bar open tonight Friday 18 feb 2011?
[QUOTE=Asian Phetish;1124649]Just my luck to arrive on a national holiday today. Really quiet on the streets. Is Livingstones sports bar open tonight Friday 18 feb 2011?[/QUOTE]Asia Phetish,
I got this a bit late. Yes, we were open yesterday :) - we are open on all holidays.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1123167]Thanks,
Na, no round number. Getting younger every year now. .
Giotto[/QUOTE]I'll start counting backwards as well when I hit that number. :p
Day 1
Trying to expel the thought of the smelly Chinese grand-motherly type of girl which took me to one of those no-doubt slum lord ran apartment complexes for a little dirty session, I chased via taxi to terminal 3 of the gorgeous Dubai airport. I felt sorry for whoever was sitting next to me for I must have smelt like a slumlord playboy, you know that mix of love odors and the poor excuse of cologne camouflage.
Usually love the Emirates flight to BKK, but I was restless / anxious to arrive (flight time only 5h25m). Getting through customs was a breeze, spotted a short line with Japanese business men and moments later I was in the land of many smiles. Tried to get a rental phone at one of the booths with a big sign saying 'rental phones', alas after waiting in line for longer than I care to mention I was told this service was only for Thai nationals.
Before I go on I must let you know that I've been sensing a definite sense of bad karma, mojo or word to that effect since my journey started from my little forward operating base somewhere near Baghdad, Iraq, missed Blackhawk rides, sleeping at heli-pads missing my original flight to Dubai, rescheduling arrangement etc. Etc. We've all had this feeling, the man in the sky was up to no good for me in particular.
I printed out the handy map for taxi drivers which can be found on the Livingstone's site ([url]http://www.livingstones.co.th/map.php[/url]). After getting to the front of the line the lovely girl asked me where I wanted to go to which I sheepishly said Bangkok which was cause for some giggling. She went on asking where exactly in Bangkok which would make sense eh. I frantically jogged my memory and gurgled something like Sukhomvit out, she of course said. What? I then tried to re-produce the map which I had in my wallet but I always stash everything in my carry on because of easy passage through the metal detectors. Couldn't find the damn thing and by then angrily let her know to just get me a damn cab to which she complied, no doubt to the relief of the people waiting behind me. Got in the cab, gave the cabbie the map and off we were to our jungle resort in the heart of Bangkok. The drive to Livingstone was a freaking long judging by the 700+THB cost and the time spent in traffic jams, but hell I'm from the Netherlands, can't say I'm not used to that.
the welcome on the early monday morning to the livingstone lodge was great, a friendly and proficient looking girl guided me through my early check in. i booked in before the official check in time but this was not even mentioned. she showed me a couple of rooms, i booked the junior suite, the one with the lovely jacuzzi. the first room had a little jacuzzi and so i sheepishly asked told her it didn't look like the one from the pictures, she directed me to another room which had this lovely huge jacuzzi. great, just what i wanted. i could already picture a couple of hot girls waiting in it for me.
the hotels rooms are very nice, love the bed linen. i spent 300 days out of the year under pretty austere conditions so i'm probably not the best judge but the bed and covers are heavenly. mind you after jumping on it happily a couple of times this was not the first thing i tried out (in case you are wondering, yes my inner child is wide awake, no pillow fights on this point either).
i called up mango's massage for some company in my jaccuzi, it was still early but a couple of girls were already unavailable. maybe still sleeping who knows. they let me know bo ([url]http://mangomassagesoi24.com/index.php?p=1_6_ladies[/url]) would be available in 30 minutes so i decided to wait. the wait was well worth it, i had a little terrace where i could smoke as in my room was non-smoking so i ending up smoking a lot making it an observation post for incoming friendlies. sure enough i spotted her after about 20m and welcomed her into my humble abode. i'the read a bit about her under the review section of mango's and also on isg i think and the positive things about her are all true, i never knew porn stars could be this friendly. the serviced offered seemed endless and with a smile, well i never tried peeing in her face or anything or some of the stuff you read about but most acronyms known on isg she welcomed and even encouraged and i tried my best to remember all acronyms and apply them diligently, no i didn't have a checklist.
we started off in the jacuzzi after working out expertly how the jacuzzi controller works, i've worked in it most of my life and still do, so after pressing all the buttons it starting working. lovely how all the twirling water masks all the under water groping of my hungry hands. i think i booked her for about 12 hours but she didn't complain when she figured out that my stamina was pretty good, a real pro in other words. not sure if i'the already acquired viagra and cialis by that time but that's another story to which i'll come to time and energy permitting. i'm writing this 10 days after the fact so my memory can be a bit off at times. not like you'the know anyway &61514;
to be continued.
Great report so far. Looking forward to more. A few notes.
First, why rent a phone? Just get a prepaid SIM and put into any unlocked phone.
700 THB for the taxi? You were certain taken for a ride!
And lastly, what does a proficient girl look like?
[QUOTE=Dutchtech; 1129112]Day 1
The drive to Livingstone was a freaking long judging by the 700+THB cost and the time spent in traffic jams, but hell I'm from the Netherlands, can't say I'm not used to that. [/QUOTE]No flaming but you mut have reached LL from BKK via Pattaya! .
Seriously speaking should have been around a 300 TB fare (some succeed for less, not including the toll of the motorway as it can be bypassed) , just as a side info for yr next trip
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1129176]No flaming but you mut have reached LL from BKK via Pattaya! .
Seriously speaking should have been around a 300 TB fare (some succeed for less, not including the toll of the motorway as it can be bypassed) , just as a side info for yr next trip[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm off a hundred thb but this was a metered taxi and it did take us foreeeeeever, I know Bangkok traffic is bad, but that Monday morning I would have probably been quicker walking. Oh and we did take the toll road, driver returned my change and everything. Good guy.
Didn't see any flaming BTW.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1129161]Great report so far. Looking forward to more. A few notes.
First, why rent a phone? Just get a prepaid SIM and put into any unlocked phone.
700 THB for the taxi? You were certain taken for a ride!
And lastly, what does a proficient girl look like? [/QUOTE]My xenophobic employer doesn't allow me have personal electronics where I work, they do allow me to create and manage computer networks. I've long ago given up in trying to find logic in some of this shite, yes shite. I bought a phone with prepaid at MBK if I got that right, on Giotto's advice. Could have gottten one for 700thb opted for a deluxe 900 model LOL, never had such a crappy phone but it rings.
And lastly, what does a proficient girl look like?
Well firstly give a damn non native speaker a break alright and secondly I would picture a proficient girl as one with a mini skirt, school uniform, a dildo in hand and asking me if she can please do my tax returns after we're through having sex.
Thought it was something like 700thb though. I know it's pretty steep.
[QUOTE=Pita123; 1129161]Great report so far. Looking forward to more. A few notes.
First, why rent a phone? Just get a prepaid SIM and put into any unlocked phone.
700 THB for the taxi? You were certain taken for a ride!
And lastly, what does a proficient girl look like? [/QUOTE]P. S. Thanks for the encouragement, as Giotto knows, I don't write, guess I'm a classic lurker.
[QUOTE=Dutchtech; 1129203]Maybe I'm off a hundred thb but this was a metered taxi and it did take us foreeeeeever, I know Bangkok traffic is bad, but that Monday morning I would have probably been quicker walking. Oh and we did take the toll road, driver returned my change and everything. Good guy.
Didn't see any flaming BTW. [/QUOTE]It is always critical to discuss about prices here as often both parties take it the wrong way. Scroll on other threads and you will see what I mean.
Nevertheless it is always good to mention what an appropriate price is to give some direction for the benefits of all and for the newbies.
Happy you took it the right way.
There are scams with metered taxis in Thailand, running very fast!
I once boarded a taxi at BKK and after 100 meters off the terminal he activated the meter with no success. Tried another time: no work, sorry.
I felt a price scam was ahead of me, but being midnight (and Sport Bar@LL closes at 1am!) I didn't bother too much and told him to take the highway. When we finally arrived at LL he asked me 400 incl toll! Fair price with no meter records and over midnight! Gave him 50b tip. Whether he cheated his (taxi) employer is another story, LOL. Not my problem, me only farang none of my business!
[QUOTE=Dutchtech;1129208]P. S. Thanks for the encouragement, as Giotto knows, I don't write, guess I'm a classic lurker.[/QUOTE]Hang in and keep on reporting. I was at LL 5 years ago, it was a life changing experience!
Hp
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1129230]It is always critical to discuss about prices here as often both parties take it the wrong way. Scroll on other threads and you will see what I mean.
Nevertheless it is always good to mention what an appropriate price is to give some direction for the benefits of all and for the newbies.
Happy you took it the right way.
There are scams with metered taxis in Thailand, running very fast!
I once boarded a taxi at BKK and after 100 meters off the terminal he activated the meter with no success. Tried another time: no work, sorry.
I felt a price scam was ahead of me, but being midnight (and Sport [email]Bar@LL[/email] Closes at 1am!) I didn't bother too much and told him to take the highway. When we finally arrived at LL he asked me 400 incl toll! Fair price with no meter records and over midnight! Gave him 50b tip. Whether he cheated his (taxi) employer is another story, LOL. Not my problem, me only farang none of my business! [/QUOTE]Yeah no kidding, I (willing and knowing) got ripped off a couple time now coming back from spicey / swing disco. Keep meeting this guy there which is gracious enough to bring me back to Soy33 for a mere 200thb. Laughed in his face a couple of time but a few times my female (tired) company twisted my arm into his 'racket'. Ah well, hardly going to be your financial ruin but as a Dutch national it's principally not right, we're supposed to be the ones ripping off folks.
[QUOTE=Hp Xt; 1129425]Hang in and keep on reporting. I was at LL 5 years ago, it was a life changing experience!
Hp[/QUOTE]Thanks to Giotto it has become obvious that people are immortal beings who have forgotten their true nature. I've met the Thetan, my individualized expression of the cosmic source, or life force, named after the Greek letter theta My Thetan is an intrinsically good, omniscient, non-material core capable of unlimited creativity.
Hmm speaking of life changing experiences though. One night in Bangkok sure did (and has) always made me humble then again I wouldn't call myself a 'hard man' as the song goes. LL sure is a cool place with great people but please, please please, no life altering stuff for the remainder of my stay, the immobilized / infected or whatever ankle along with the array of other mishaps was enough for this trip / year. (Knock on wood). Stuff mainly unrelated to LL BTW, maybe I'll elaborate on some of it in the second report if I you promise not to tell anyone about all this embarrassing shite. It's 15:00 here, about time for a beer and. Hey just had a thought. Maybe call a Mango Girl, love ordering out. Well I hope you guys are reading this while working in a cold rainy dreary country. Don't worry, my work and living conditions / hours will be far worse than any of yours in a couple of days again when I fly back to my hell hole work site so no need to be jealous or to let me know what an asshole I am for rubbing it in
P. S. Scientology for those who missed that Boston legal episode or South Park or took a deep look into Tom Cruise's eyes. Scary shit guys, you can pick out a ladyboy easier.
Right I was getting that beer.
[QUOTE=Dutchtech; 1129827]Thanks to Giotto it has become obvious that people are immortal beings who have forgotten their true nature. I've met the Thetan, my individualized expression of the cosmic source, or life force, named after the Greek letter theta My Thetan is an intrinsically good, omniscient, non-material core capable of unlimited creativity.
Hmm speaking of life changing experiences though. One night in Bangkok sure did (and has) always made me humble then again I wouldn't call myself a 'hard man' as the song goes. LL sure is a cool place with great people but please, please please, no life altering stuff for the remainder of my stay, the immobilized / infected or whatever ankle along with the array of other mishaps was enough for this trip / year. (Knock on wood). Stuff mainly unrelated to LL BTW, maybe I'll elaborate on some of it in the second report if I you promise not to tell anyone about all this embarrassing shite. It's 15:00 here, about time for a beer and. Hey just had a thought. Maybe call a Mango Girl, love ordering out. Well I hope you guys are reading this while working in a cold rainy dreary country. Don't worry, my work and living conditions / hours will be far worse than any of yours in a couple of days again when I fly back to my hell hole work site so no need to be jealous or to let me know what an asshole I am for rubbing it in
P. S. Scientology for those who missed that Boston legal episode or South Park or took a deep look into Tom Cruise's eyes. Scary shit guys, you can pick out a ladyboy easier.
Right I was getting that beer. [/QUOTE]After reading the first paragraph and the P. S. I'm thinking this won't be the first beer of the day. .
[QUOTE=Dutchtech; 1129827]Thanks to Giotto it has become obvious that people are immortal beings who have forgotten their true nature. I've met the Thetan, my individualized expression of the cosmic source, or life force, named after the Greek letter theta My Thetan is an intrinsically good, omniscient, non-material core capable of unlimited creativity.
Hmm speaking of life changing experiences though. One night in Bangkok sure did (and has) always made me humble then again I wouldn't call myself a 'hard man' as the song goes. LL sure is a cool place with great people but please, please please, no life altering stuff for the remainder of my stay, the immobilized / infected or whatever ankle along with the array of other mishaps was enough for this trip / year. (Knock on wood). Stuff mainly unrelated to LL BTW, maybe I'll elaborate on some of it in the second report if I you promise not to tell anyone about all this embarrassing shite. It's 15:00 here, about time for a beer and. Hey just had a thought. Maybe call a Mango Girl, love ordering out. Well I hope you guys are reading this while working in a cold rainy dreary country. Don't worry, my work and living conditions / hours will be far worse than any of yours in a couple of days again when I fly back to my hell hole work site so no need to be jealous or to let me know what an asshole I am for rubbing it in
P. S. Scientology for those who missed that Boston legal episode or South Park or took a deep look into Tom Cruise's eyes. Scary shit guys, you can pick out a ladyboy easier.
Right I was getting that beer. [/QUOTE]It's good to see that Charlie Sheen is posting on the Giotto's forum these days!
Just kidding, Dutchtech, I enjoyed your posts. It does sound like you're "winning." Wish I could be there at LL. . .
[QUOTE=Pita123;1129833]After reading the first paragraph and the P. S. I'm thinking this won't be the first beer of the day. .[/QUOTE]Could well be not the last but with the same reading you did, my question is "was it the first (beer) of the day?"
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1129986]Could well be not the last but with the same reading you did, my question is "was it the first (beer) of the day?"[/QUOTE]Well I don't really get the debate but I'll try to clarify. I said 'It's 15:00 here, about time for a beer ', yes first beer of the day.
In Pattaya right now, staying in an ultimately obscene room at the penthouse hotel: dancing pole, some strapping swing SM looking thingie, jacuzzi and freaking mirrors and disco lights everywhere. You're almost embarrassed bringing a girl back to your room. I certainly was when I ran into an old gf and brought her here. But then got over it and strapped her ass into the torture device and thoroughly explored its options. Hell why I am I writing about it when I can be doing it. Fuck now, write later
P. S. 'If you're questioning my sanity there's a good chance you're sane'
[QUOTE=Dutchtech;1130630]Well I don't really get the debate but I'll try to clarify. I said 'It's 15:00 here, about time for a beer ', yes first beer of the day.[/QUOTE]No debate. We were both joking and actually saying the same thing. We both said that based upon your style of posting it may not be the first beer of the day. All in good fun. If I were in BKK now I'd buy you a round.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1130735]No debate. We were both joking and actually saying the same thing. We both said that based upon your style of posting it may not be the first beer of the day. All in good fun. If I were in BKK now I'd buy you a round.[/QUOTE]Technically the day starts at midnight so there's a high probability it wasn't really my first beer anyway. Wish I could take you up on the offer my friend. Pattaya is fun and it's good to meet up with some old friends but I prefer the BKK nightlife and the TLC at LL.
P. S. LL staff, my foot has taken on normal shape again despite my renewed efforts to sabotage the healing process.
And it seems like that nobody else has been here either!
So. What's the story?
Is Livingstone's Lodge still open?
Is Giotto still involved with Livingstone's Lodge?
What's the latest here?
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1148248]And it seems like that nobody else has been here either!
So. What's the story?
Is Livingstone's Lodge still open?
Is Giotto still involved with Livingstone's Lodge?
What's the latest here?
SEAJ[/QUOTE]I can swear LL is up and open! Believe it or not, there is some maintance work being done at the roofs at the pool.
Food is always excellent. I enjoyed twice the argentinian beef carpaccio as a light meal in the Sports Bar: perfect as you do not end too much filled up.
Talking about the Sports Bar, the range of ladies has nothing to fear competition.
Yet no as glamourous as the go-go's but you do not go to the Lodge for glamour.
Not all ladies too strong in english but there are enough to enjoy conversation in the albion language, should you plan to discuss the fate of the world in the "aftermath".
Names? Discretion is the word at the LL.
Giving them out will ruin the pleasure of the discovery.
I do not think there is any starfish around (and I do not mean in the pool)
Staff is always very friendly and cater to all your needs (well. Not all, the Sports Bar is for that!)
G&G are at still the helm:
Giotto supervises the world from his PC's and Guido is always helpful (did you get that frame sorted, G?).
Mrs G. Is a discrete controller of the whole lot (thanks for that cold towel Monday last!)
Still some troubles in opening the jam lids at breakfast. But everyone has to face his challenges in everyday's life.
That seems to be mine when I am at the LL. I think I can survive that!
LL is still unbeatble as a nearly downtown location, definetely where the action is, and still a nice island of relax when you are at the pool, saved from the daily morning chopper landing on a nearby roof.
Brush a bit more the deep side of the pool and it will be immaculate and match the 5* hotels! (hey G, I need to put some "downs", otherwise readers think I am getting free nights by this written brochure!)
Somebody was once talking about plastic chairs in here if I well remember. No need! But some sunbeds would not be out of place.
PS: not pushing on a personal basis, but introducing a fidelity program could be a nice idea to activate a bit of repeats and attract newcomers
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1148261]I can swear LL is up and open! Believe it or not, there is some maintance work being done at the roofs at the pool.[/QUOTE]Why would the pool need roof work when it's on the top of the building? :)
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1148364]Why would the pool need roof work when it's on the top of the building? .
Slim[/QUOTE]LOL. The roof I mention is the one around the pool.
But. What LL are you talking about? Pool on top of the roof? Mumble mumble. The water leaking in your room was not because there is a pool above your room!
Just kidding. Of course, before somebody think there are water leaks in the rooms.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe;1148248]And it seems like that nobody else has been here either! So. What's the story? Is Livingstone's Lodge still open? Is Giotto still involved with Livingstone's Lodge? What's the latest here? SEAJ[/QUOTE]I was at LL recently to meet friends for a drink. The entire facility looked great. Pretty ladies in the bar. I was greeted warmly, despite not showing my face for awhile.
And, yes, as with most institutions, Dr. G was on duty and alert! ;)
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1148261].
LL is still unbeatble as a nearly downtown location, definetely where the action is, and still a nice island of relax when you are at the pool, saved from the daily morning chopper landing on a nearby roof.
Brush a bit more the deep side of the pool and it will be immaculate and match the 5* hotels! (hey G, I need to put some "downs", otherwise readers think I am getting free nights by this written brochure!)
Somebody was once talking about plastic chairs in here if I well remember. No need! But some sunbeds would not be out of place.
PS: not pushing on a personal basis, but introducing a fidelity program could be a nice idea to activate a bit of repeats and attract newcomers[/QUOTE]Bionicman,
As you know I am still alive. But not writing here as much as before. After all those years I leave it to others to write the reports about places and experiences. Not much new I can add.
[b]Sunbeds:[/b]. We prepare an area for sun-bathing now, including sunbeds, will be in place when you come next time.
[b]Fidelity Program:[/b]. Thought about that already, will go into details now.
BTW, we have a new attraction since a few weeks. [b]a F1 trikot with an autograph of Vettel himself :) ! [/b]
Still no plastic chairs.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1148984][b]Fidelity Program:[/b]. Thought about that already, will go into details now.[/QUOTE]How about an "Infidelity Program" for those of use that use LL as a "no tell motel" from time to time?
Have to keep all the bases covered in the competitive world of international hostelry.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1148984]Bionicman,
As you know I am still alive. But not writing here as much as before. After all those years I leave it to others to write the reports about places and experiences. Not much new I can add.
[b]Sunbeds:[/b]. We prepare an area for sun-bathing now, including sunbeds, will be in place when you come next time.
[b]Fidelity Program:[/b]. Thought about that already, will go into details now.
BTW, we have a new attraction since a few weeks. [b]a F1 trikot with an autograph of Vettel himself. ! [/b]
Still no plastic chairs.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]
Well Gioto. Like it or not, the whole Giotto forum has died without your active participation.
So much so that I was truly wondering if the place even actually existed or if you're still involved with it or not anymore.
OK, you ARE still owner of the place etc. But that you don't seem to care any more about maintaining this site do give me a "sort of message" that you are no longer really interested in the well being of your own establishment.
Please understand that this is not in any way to be construed as a criticism (not, Not at all). Rather for you to reconsider the necessity for you to maintain this site to justify the amount of money AND previous effort you had put into it.
Just a little heads up from a little guy who hates naugahide as cheap. Truly cheap!
Muauahahaha!
HA HA HA!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1150206]Well Gioto. Like it or not, the whole Giotto forum has died without your active participation.
OK, you ARE still owner of the place etc. But that you don't seem to care any more about maintaining this site do give me a "sort of message" that you are no longer really interested in the well being of your own establishment.
[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Sorry, that I cannot live up to your expectations. But I also cannot follow your logic about not being interested in the well being of my own establishment.
We are right now using this time period of the starting low season to perform necessary renovations. After now 5 years of running the hotel some rooms, roofs, piping systems etc. need an overhaul, to keep the standards up.
As for this site: I am still reading it, giving my comments on reports if necessary, and if I have something to write I will write. We will also offer a special discount for ISG members for this low season in an attempt to counter the usual low seasons low occupancy.
Since Mrs. Giotto is reading this site, too [after some ISG members tried to impress her with showing her my [old] massage parlor report] my dick was cut off, sliced into pieces and given to the ducks. Ever since my sex drive died. So what can I write about?
May be I will be the Bangkok politics commentator during the upcoming elections (and the ongoing silencing activities of the reds by the ruling elite) , and write about the next Thai stock market crash after the elections, when the political landscape will open the eyes of investors that the polarization in Thai politics gets worse, compromises cannot be found and the country is moving towards chaos.
Meanwhile I am enjoying my existence as eunuch, trading some stocks and developing some Java software. Could write about that, too. Let me think :) .
Giotto
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1150755]SE Asia Joe,
We are right now using this time period of the starting low season to perform necessary renovations. After now 5 years of running the hotel some rooms, roofs, piping systems etc. Need an overhaul, to keep the standards up.
Since Mrs. Giotto is reading this site, too [after some ISG members tried to impress her with showing her my [old] massage parlor report] my dick was cut off, sliced into pieces and given to the ducks. Ever since my sex drive died. So what can I write about? [/QUOTE]Hope you get over with the renovations soon and have more time for the ISG. Haven't visited the place yet, but it is on the top of my list during the next visit.
Loved your stories. Look forward to some updates to that section, Especially with all the work going on.
Magic M
[QUOTE=Magic Moments; 1151507]Hope you get over with the renovations soon and have more time for the ISG. Haven't visited the place yet, but it is on the top of my list during the next visit.
Loved your stories. Look forward to some updates to that section, Especially with all the work going on.
Magic M[/QUOTE]You will not be disappointed.
I rate that Giotto made it is so that the LL is a kind of "exclusive" place.
Some might not like it, some might, some might find cheaper options.
As somebody puts it, we do not like the same food, .
Certainly the Lodge has a great degree of general comfort in all senses, not merely and only practical.
[quote=giotto;1148984][b]sunbeds:[/b]. we prepare an area for sun-bathing now, including sunbeds, will be in place when you come next time.[/quote]herr doktor.
planning a trip in the near future. how is the sunbed area coming along, is it finished? photos on the website don't show it yet. also, how much are you doing in the way of renovations, how busy / noisey is it?
i've got loyalty points to burn at a hotel very near you (not peep inn) but would be breaking with tradition by not staying at your establishment.
cheers fur noo!
[quote=sonic bam; 1152511]herr doktor.
planning a trip in the near future. how is the sunbed area coming along, is it finished? photos on the website don't show it yet. also, how much are you doing in the way of renovations, how busy / noisey is it?
i've got loyalty points to burn at a hotel very near you (not peep inn) but would be breaking with tradition by not staying at your establishment.
cheers fur noo! [/quote]when i was there some 4 weeks ago the bar / pool roof renovation was run with no noise in the rooms (and i had a room above the sports bar)
they are suing human labour and no caterpillars! lol.
but true it is not affecting the rooms.
We are right now using this time period of the starting low season to perform necessary renovations. After now 5 years of running the hotel some rooms, roofs, piping systems etc. Need an overhaul, to keep the standards up.
As I have stayed there before, not much renovation required. Regular maintenance I suppose. Just fix the low water pressure in the shower. Booked for 1 week in July.
As I have stayed there before, not much renovation required. Regular maintenance I suppose. Just fix the low water pressure in the shower. Booked for 1 week in July.
[quote=sonic bam; 1152511]herr doktor.
planning a trip in the near future. how is the sunbed area coming along, is it finished? photos on the website don't show it yet. also, how much are you doing in the way of renovations, how busy / noisey is it?
i've got loyalty points to burn at a hotel very near you (not peep inn) but would be breaking with tradition by not staying at your establishment.
cheers fur noo! [/quote]sonic bam,
some necessary work on the roof was a bit noisy. but that's done / finished already. and. all should be finalized this month. it's only a small team of workers, not busy here at all.
i did not know that one can get loyalty points for peep inn :) .
giotto
I miss the Sausage.
[quote=nicfrenchy;1158540]i miss the sausage.[/quote]nicfrenchy,
get over here. the auntie is waiting for you. peep inn is close.
giotto
If the renovations are finished then it is time for the centenary dinner and the return of Johnny Singlish. Don't roll out the red carpet only the zimmer frame. Watch this space
Giotto.
July I will be haunting the lodge again.
X
It has been a year since my last visit, which far exceeds my comfort level. I can't wait to see the "new" additions! Sorry to hear about your recent "emasculation", I am sure that a gentleman of your talents will find a way to work around this small setback.
[QUOTE=Tamurlane26;1160740]If the renovations are finished then it is time for the centenary dinner and the return of Johnny Singlish. Don't roll out the red carpet only the zimmer frame. Watch this space[/QUOTE]Singlo,
Please. Ask your father to join, that somebody takes care of you. I mean - I don't have that much time to teach again and again, and - as we both know :) - you can learn a lot from your father.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1160961]It has been a year since my last visit, which far exceeds my comfort level. I can't wait to see the "new" additions! Sorry to hear about your recent "emasculation", I am sure that a gentleman of your talents will find a way to work around this small setback.[/QUOTE]Sky Ryder,
Yep. I am suffering a lot. Life is hard. I can tell :) .
Damned, that hard, enough for today. I walk over to the bar (10 m, 20 girls, 1 Gin & Tonic :):)). What torture this life is. .
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
I hear both practice elections and actual elections will take place in mid June and July.
What effect will this have for the average mongerer? What days will be bad ones (for beer and entertainment)
Please explain to me Oh Wizzard of the Tusks.
[QUOTE=Monger Virgin; 1162688]I hear both practice elections and actual elections will take place in mid June and July.
What effect will this have for the average mongerer? What days will be bad ones (for beer and entertainment)
Please explain to me Oh Wizzard of the Tusks. [/QUOTE]Monger Virgin,
LOL.
Easy answer: business as usual, except alcohol from Saturday 6 pm to Sunday midnight. Possibly some girls will go home for the elections. But I have my doubts. Making money is much more important for the girls than the elections.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
Thank for your insight.
Specifically is July 2 the only bad Saturday? Or are there others to be aware of?
I am assuming the paper cup rule will be envoked on Saturday after 6PM.
Or you buy 5 beers on last call at 6PM.
[QUOTE]Auf die Frage "Welches ist für Sie das schönste Musikstück" finden sich als Antworten unter den ersten zehn Stücken neun Kompositionen aus der klassischen Musik (9. Sinfonie von Beethoven an erster Stelle mit 67 Nennungen, ansonsten 5. Sinfonie und Mondscheinsonate, auch von Beethoven, Zauberflöte und kleine Nachtmusik von Mozart, Matthäuspassion und Toccata und Fuge d-Moll von Bach, Ring des Nibelungen von Wagner und Winterreise von Schubert) – und nur eine einzige Komposition aus unserer Zeit, die "99 Luftballons" von Nena![/QUOTE]Froggy,
What's wrong in France?
I just read the above quoted piece in "Die Welt". And that really made my day...
Rough translation (for the French, who do not speak German) :
Question: What's the most impressive piece of [German] music:
Answers (first 10) :
- 9th Symphony, Beethoven
- 5th Symphony, Beethoven
- Moonlight Sonata, Beethoven
- Magic Flute (Zauberfloete) , Mozart
- A little Night Music (Kleine Nachtmusik) , Mozart
- St. Matthew Passion (Matthaeuspassion) , Bach
- Toccata and Fuge in the-minor, Bach
- The Ring of the Nibelung (Ring der Nibelungen) , Wagner
- Winter Journey (Winterreise) , Schubert
[b]- 99 red balloons (99 Luftballons) , Nena[/b]
99 red balloons. Nena!!! Mentioned together with Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Schubert. What has happened to the French, have you people suffered a kind of brain damage?
OK, ok, I get it. I understand, that I shall now mention Mr. Nicolas Sarkozy amongst the 10 most important French politicians like Charles de Gaulle, Francois Mitterand, Madame de Pompadour, Fanny Hill and Josephine Mutzenbacher.
I have a question, too: [b]Have you guys there on the other side of the Rhine River lost your mind? [/b]
Giotto
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
PS: Wagner was the preferred composer of A. Hitler.
[QUOTE=Giotto;1163291]99 red balloons. Nena!!! Mentioned together with Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Schubert. What has happened to the French, have you people suffered a kind of brain damage?[[/QUOTE]Err, go to the root cause of the problem. Who actually inflicted that fecking song on the world? Don't blame our Franzosisch freund for his compatriots bad taste. If Nena never pumped it into the world then this debate would not exist! German problem.
No excuse for the sausage issue though.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1163291]Froggy,
99 red balloons. Nena! Mentioned together with Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Schubert. What has happened to the French, have you people suffered a kind of brain damage?
OK, ok, I get it. I understand, that I shall now mention Mr. Nicolas Sarkozy amongst the 10 most important French politicians like Charles de Gaulle, Francois Mitterand, Madame de Pompadour, Fanny Hill and Josephine Mutzenbacher.
I have a question, too: [b]Have you guys there on the other side of the Rhine River lost your mind? [/b][/QUOTE]In France, Jerry Lewis is a comedic genius.
[QUOTE=Giotto;1163291][b]- 99 red balloons (99 Luftballons) , Nena[/b][/QUOTE]Nena is soooooo hot! I love that song!
WAS SO HOT. I think I will pass on Gabriele Susanne Kerner circa 2005. I'd take a young Thai Mango massage girl any day. Life is cruel. It takes no prisoners. But Gabriele had a good time for awhile. Of that I am sure.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1163676]WAS SO HOT. I think I will pass on Gabriele Susanne Kerner circa 2005. I'd take a young Thai Mango massage girl any day. Life is cruel. It takes no prisoners. But Gabriele had a good time for awhile. Of that I am sure.[/QUOTE]I'd still do her so long as I could have a Mango the next day.
[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1163676]WAS SO HOT. I think I will pass on Gabriele Susanne Kerner circa 2005. I'd take a young Thai Mango massage girl any day. Life is cruel. It takes no prisoners. But Gabriele had a good time for awhile. Of that I am sure.[/QUOTE]I saw Nena close by not long ago, she is still a good MILF and cougar.
Can even pass, the german will understand, as a caffelatte mutti.
Wondering what she thinks if she knows she became a topic on ISG, rolf!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1163698]I saw Nena close by not long ago, she is still a good MILF and cougar.
Can even pass, the german will understand, as a caffelatte mutti.
Wondering what she thinks if she knows she became a topic on ISG, rolf! [/QUOTE]Ohhhh boy.
You saw her really close?
[QUOTE=Osuul; 1163759]Ohhhh boy.
You saw her really close? [/QUOTE]Yep, I did! Super well aged. Maybe with a "Little help from her (surgery?) friend" LOL
Hi Giotto.
I'll be over in BKK next month and plan to spend a large proportion of time in the sports bar as per my last trip. Just checking. Is the Sports bar 'well stocked' in September?
Thanks,
P
Hey Giotto,
Any chance the staff will be working on Friday?
[QUOTE=Mando Dog; 1185820]Hey Giotto,
Any chance the staff will be working on Friday?[/QUOTE]Mando Dog,
Business as usual on Friday.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Plasmids; 1185487].
I'll be over in BKK next month and plan to spend a large proportion of time in the sports bar as per my last trip. Just checking. Is the Sports bar 'well stocked' in September?[/QUOTE]Plasmids,
You never know what happens within 2 weeks, but the Sports Bar is 'well stocked' right now, so there shouldn't be any 'shortages' in September.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1186058]Plasmids,
You never know what happens within 2 weeks, but the Sports Bar is 'well stocked' right now, so there shouldn't be any 'shortages' in September.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Chatted with a lovely girl named Juk, I think. Gorgeous. Didn't have much money, so didn't ask about a barfine.
Are you hanging in there beside the pool, smoking and drinking coffe?
For anyone that does not know, at LL you can get breakfast whenever you want. Right know I'm in a hotel in Europe with including breakfast, but I have never managed (yet) to get up in time for it. Ha ha, crazy Giotto. I have to come back soon :)
Hey Giotto,
I am in Thailand for another few days and loved the Lodge. Any specials going on for ISG people?
If not, would still like to buy you a beer. I imagine you have many many stories to tell.
Peace
[QUOTE=Martinbluther69; 1189007]Hey Giotto,
I am in Thailand for another few days and loved the Lodge. Any specials going on for ISG people?
If not, would still like to buy you a beer. I imagine you have many many stories to tell.
Peace[/QUOTE]Martinbluther69,
As usual. The ISG promo (General Information thread).
As for the stories. For sure, this is a crazy country, there are always stories to tell.
C U.
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
Hey Giotto it's that time of the year again, wanted to know if your Sports Bar has it's usual cadre of lovelies, will be there around October 10th for a couple of weeks, will you be around then?
Weird One
[QUOTE=Weird One;1197305]Hey Giotto it's that time of the year again, wanted to know if your Sports Bar has it's usual cadre of lovelies, will be there around October 10th for a couple of weeks, will you be around then? .[/QUOTE]Weird One,
It's weird, but I am still around :) .
Business as usual, girls waiting for you at the Sports Lounge. Get over here!
Giotto
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1197610]Weird One,
It's weird, but I am still around. .
Business as usual, girls waiting for you at the Sports Lounge. Get over here!
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url][/QUOTE]Great news as I look forward to another visit to THE place to stay in Bangkok.
I can never understand guys who carp at the prices on Soi 33 nor of the BFs at Livingstone Lodge. If you spend £500 on an airfare and double that on hotels what the hell is an extra £10-15 on a lady?
Compared to the lower end of Sukhumvit Soi 33 and the Lodge are havens from the tawdry sex of the rest of Sukhumvit
Good to be back. Bugger of a drive in from the airport. Gridlocked trying to get off the free way on to Suk adding 45 min to the journey. Quick check in, shower, out for a rub, couple of beers at the Irish pub then back to the Lodge for chicken cashew nuts, a Singha or two and chat with the Burgermeister. Not so bad, I'm happy with that.
Monsieur Giotto,
C'mon, this isn't that bad at all.
Counter question: what are your 10 most impressive pieces of French music?
Let me guess: "Je t'aime (moi non plus)" is certainly in your list, non? .
Wagner: well, he might have been Hitler's favourite composer, but he actually couldn't anticipate this, when he wrote the music, non. Still, a bit too theatralic, for my taste.
Levitian.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1163291]Froggy,
What's wrong in France?
I just read the above quoted piece in "Die Welt". And that really made my day.
Rough translation (for the French, who do not speak German) :
Question: What's the most impressive piece of [German] music:
Answers (first 10) :
- 9th Symphony, Beethoven.
- 5th Symphony, Beethoven.
- Moonlight Sonata, Beethoven.
- Magic Flute (Zauberfloete) , Mozart.
- A little Night Music (Kleine Nachtmusik) , Mozart.
- St. Matthew Passion (Matthaeuspassion) , Bach.
- Toccata and Fuge in the-minor, Bach.
- The Ring of the Nibelung (Ring der Nibelungen) , Wagner.
- Winter Journey (Winterreise) , Schubert.
[b]- 99 red balloons (99 Luftballons) , Nena[/b]
99 red balloons. Nena! Mentioned together with Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and Schubert. What has happened to the French, have you people suffered a kind of brain damage?
OK, ok, I get it. I understand, that I shall now mention Mr. Nicolas Sarkozy amongst the 10 most important French politicians like Charles de Gaulle, Francois Mitterand, Madame de Pompadour, Fanny Hill and Josephine Mutzenbacher.
I have a question, too: [b]Have you guys there on the other side of the Rhine River lost your mind? [/b]
Giotto.
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
PS: Wagner was the preferred composer of A. Hitler.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Levitian; 1204338].
C'mon, this isn't that bad at all.
Counter question: what are your 10 most impressive pieces of French music?
Let me guess: "Je t'aime (moi non plus)" is certainly in your list, non? .[/QUOTE]Levitian,
Where did you dig out this report? I wrote that one years ago ...
Cannot answer your counter question. I am not aware that there are any mentionable French composers :) .
Giotto
[url]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/url]
Hi.
I am planning a trip in about two weeks time, but I am concerned about the ongoing flood situation in Thailand. Are there any indications it might hit downtown Bangkok? What is the situation at the Lodge. Are the nice girls in the Sports bar still there, or have they gone home to help their families?
-h
[QUOTE=Harry Dude; 1207021]Are the nice girls in the Sports bar still there, or have they gone home to help their families?
-h[/QUOTE]There were certainly some very fetching ladies there last week. Uniform for one night, Saturday night I think, was very short tight white shorts. Some very pert bottoms trotting back and forward from the Sports Bar. Back there on Thursday for two nights.
Giotto,
Greetings from jersey! I've been put in charge of planning a 3 day bachelor / stag party for one of my high school buddies that is finally tying the knot. There are going to be 10 of us high school friends spending approx 72 hrs or so in Bangkok in the first week of feb. The timing of the event also happens to coincide with our 20 year high school reunion.
When discussing lodging options, I suggested your oasis in the middle of the busy city.
Can you PM me and let me know what we would be looking at for 10 rooms (I see you only have 7 junior suites) for two nights in terms of prices. Also need to plan the festivities for the trip, so maybe a party bus or limo or the like for the two nights out on the town. I was thinking we would take our party favors with us from the sports bar and then hit the gogos and the disco's to see if any of the ladies were inclined to pick up some more beauties for extended nights of carnal indulgences.
Have you ever hosted bachelor parties at your property before? If not, would you be open to such a theme. I warn you that the boys are a bunch of wild ones, most of them being world traveled, but crazy none the less.
I have a vested interest in steering the party to the lodge, because that way I can fade away and not be worried if everyone is having enough fun.
Cheers,
JSS
G.
Hope the ladies in the Sports Bar are wearing very short and skimpy Father Christmas costumes tonight. Wish I was there to see for myself. Hopefully be back in a couple of months.
Have a good Christmas!
Hi.
After what seems like many years, I'm coming back to BKK and plan on staying where I used to stay, I. E. Livingstones.
Am only staying for two nights. In the past I benefited from the various promotions and see that previously returning ISG members would get a free room upgrade. This does not seem to be the case now. Can I benefit from any other promotions?
Thanks!
[QUOTE=The World; 1231195]Hi.
After what seems like many years, I'm coming back to BKK and plan on staying where I used to stay, I. E. Livingstones.
Am only staying for two nights. In the past I benefited from the various promotions and see that previously returning ISG members would get a free room upgrade. This does not seem to be the case now. Can I benefit from any other promotions?
Thanks![/QUOTE]G has gone awful quiet. What gives with the normal opportunities to advertise the merit of the Lodge and the Sports Bar?
Hi Giotto,
Have not seen a post from you in a long while.
Are still around running things tere?
I hope all is well. I hope you did not move to Greece.
Kind regards,
Oldload
[QUOTE=OldLoad; 1249082]Hi Giotto,
I hope all is well. I hope you did not move to Greece.[/QUOTE]OldLoad,
LOL. Greece. GREECE! I hate you, too. .
Things are quiet here, but still ok. Thailand sucks. There is always something, either a Tsunami, or demonstrations, or elections, or a coup, or an occupation of the airport, or floods, or bombs in Bangkok.
I really suffer a lot. Getting in the morning from the bedroom to the coffee machine close to my working desk costs me about 20 seconds. Hell! .
Soi 33 is quiet. Drinks (and I think even girls, if I read about the ridiculous prices paid in Nana and Cowboy) are cheaper here then in other Bangkok entertainment areas. Don't really understand this Gogo- and Beer bar fever of the standard tourists. But. That's how it is right now. Strange somehow. On many days I have all my "treasures" for myself. It's. Hell! . Those girls are getting that horny, and I am getting old!
The Thai stock market is doing well, just trying to break the tops of last year. I have to sit here during the morning and afternoon session and watch the stock prices rising. Hell! .
Life is hard. I can tell.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1250827]OldLoad,
LOL. Greece. GREECE! I hate you, too.
Things are quiet here, but still ok. Thailand sucks. There is always something, either a Tsunami, or demonstrations, or elections, or a coup, or an occupation of the airport, or floods, or bombs in Bangkok.
I really suffer a lot. Getting in the morning from the bedroom to the coffee machine close to my working desk costs me about 20 seconds. Hell! .
Soi 33 is quiet. Drinks (and I think even girls, if I read about the ridiculous prices paid in Nana and Cowboy) are cheaper here then in other Bangkok entertainment areas. Don't really understand this Gogo- and Beer bar fever of the standard tourists. But. That's how it is right now. Strange somehow. On many days I have all my "treasures" for myself. It's. Hell! . Those girls are getting that horny, and I am getting old!
The Thai stock market is doing well, just trying to break the tops of last year. I have to sit here during the morning and afternoon session and watch the stock prices rising. Hell! .
Life is hard. I can tell.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Wish I was there, rode the euro up and played it down. Waiting for the Greek tragedy, still cannot see what is holding it up. Still playing with the tech curves for forecasting. Wish I was foreplaying at the lodge with the real curves.
What a super place you have there! A one stop shop. Was in The Maldives a few weeks ago, but flew home via Germany. Hope to get by this year!
Thinking about the Lodge gets the old heart ticking harder!
[QUOTE=JerseyShoreSun; 1221184]Giotto,
Greetings from jersey! I've been put in charge of planning a 3 day bachelor / stag party for one of my high school buddies that is finally tying the knot. There are going to be 10 of us high school friends spending approx 72 hrs or so in Bangkok in the first week of feb. The timing of the event also happens to coincide with our 20 year high school reunion.
When discussing lodging options, I suggested your oasis in the middle of the busy city.
Can you PM me and let me know what we would be looking at for 10 rooms (I see you only have 7 junior suites) for two nights in terms of prices. Also need to plan the festivities for the trip, so maybe a party bus or limo or the like for the two nights out on the town. I was thinking we would take our party favors with us from the sports bar and then hit the gogos and the disco's to see if any of the ladies were inclined to pick up some more beauties for extended nights of carnal indulgences.
Have you ever hosted bachelor parties at your property before? If not, would you be open to such a theme. I warn you that the boys are a bunch of wild ones, most of them being world traveled, but crazy none the less.
I have a vested interest in steering the party to the lodge, because that way I can fade away and not be worried if everyone is having enough fun.
Cheers,
JSS[/QUOTE]How did this work out?
I am part of a 7-8 man Bachelor party trip as well in end of May. Might want to steal some ideas from your trip if something worked out particularly well.
Giotto maybe you could pm me as well and let me know about your hotel (? Sorry never visited so quite sure what the setup is) and services.
Just went there, it was fun chatting with the girls and the burger was pretty good.
Currently staying at the lodge. This place is so relaxing and right in the middle of BKK. Walking distance to great shopping and many many bars. The staff are so friendly and helpful. I will return here for sure, can not find this anywhere else.
10/10.
Superraven
I agree. It's an excellent place and I look forward to being there next week.
GE.
[QUOTE=SuperRaven; 1277959]Currently staying at the lodge. This place is so relaxing and right in the middle of BKK. Walking distance to great shopping and many many bars. The staff are so friendly and helpful. I will return here for sure, can not find this anywhere else.
10/10.
Superraven[/QUOTE]
Yes I checked out other hotels, can not beat the fact that breakfast is included and internet.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1277988]I agree. It's an excellent place and I look forward to being there next week.
GE.[/QUOTE]
I'm back at Livingstone's after a few days in Pattaya, and glad to be here. What the hell do people do all day in Pattaya anyway?
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1282206]I'm back at Livingstone's after a few days in Pattaya, and glad to be here. What the hell do people do all day in Pattaya anyway?[/QUOTE]They have sex I guess.
[QUOTE=GoodEnough;1282206]I'm back at Livingstone's after a few days in Pattaya, and glad to be here. What the hell do people do all day in Pattaya anyway?[/QUOTE]What do they do in Bangkok? Visit the temple?
One cannot go to the Lodge without knowing Mr Giotto so for the first time ever. He allowed me to post his pic.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1286514]One cannot go to the Lodge without knowing Mr Giotto so for the first time ever. He allowed me to post his pic.[/QUOTE]I did not know that Big C can cause brain damage :) ...
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1286555]I did not know that Big C can cause brain damage. .
Giotto[/QUOTE]Hahahahahahaha.
All,
Somehow I think we need to start up this thread again.
Today I tried to find my report about Rin, that I wrote in 2006. It was a bit complicated due to some forum reorganization activities, which obviously had not actualized the links. Finally I found it. And I read what was going on in this thread in 2006. Good fun! Really good fun!
Where are we today? Livingstone's Lodge has a very low occupancy rate, business is very slow. There is an overcapacity of hotel rooms in Bangkok, and the room rates are simply too low to really make money with a hotel.
The ISG is dominated by Cheap-Charly price discussions,"do-not-tip" recommendations. And stupid comments from serial antagonists like Harold444 or offensive posts from The Pro (luckily semi-retired). What makes it all worse is that even French people can comment here now. So we all have to suffer the knowledge of my fatherly friend - Grandpa NicFrenchy. What a mess :) ...
Where are all the fun posters gone? OTH was removed by [b]the Force[/b]. We all know that. And we all know that without quality writers we also have a lot of quality readers. Right, Jackson? [b]Or may be not ?????[/b] Did you see what happened to the Thailand forum after OTH had to leave? I told you what was going to happen - but you knew it better!!! We have so much quality now. Harold444 and The Pro. Congratulations.
Where are the others? Posterlion? 1Ball? Sir Duniawala (at least he pops up sometimes in between)? Piper1? Thor93? And - so on, and so on ... . WHERE ARE ALL THE [size=+2][b]BESTARDS[/size][/b]?
OK, ok, let's somehow start something new. We still have our Grandpa, his sausages. And Auntie Guido. That should be enough to get started. And then we might find some more writers, the Bestards of the future. Let's see.
Let's get started.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
NicFrenchy,
Thanks for coming by yesterday - with your new girlfriend (--> picture). Pleasure talking to you - as always.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1295455]All,
Somehow I think we need to start up this thread again.
Today I tried to find my report about Rin, that I wrote in 2006. It was a bit complicated due to some forum reorganization activities, which obviously had not actualized the links. Finally I found it. And I read what was going on in this thread in 2006. Good fun! Really good fun!
Where are we today? Livingstone's Lodge has a very low occupancy rate, business is very slow. There is an overcapacity of hotel rooms in Bangkok, and the room rates are simply too low to really make money with a hotel.
The ISG is dominated by Cheap-Charly price discussions,"do-not-tip" recommendations. And stupid comments from serial antagonists like Harold444 or offensive posts from The Pro (luckily semi-retired). What makes it all worse is that even French people can comment here now. So we all have to suffer the knowledge of my fatherly friend. Grandpa NicFrenchy. What a mess. .
Where are all the fun posters gone? OTH was removed by [b]the Force[/b]. We all know that. And we all know that without quality writers we also have a lot of quality readers. Right, Jackson? [b]Or may be not? [/b] Did you see what happened to the Thailand forum after OTH had to leave? I told you what was going to happen. But you knew it better! We have so much quality now. Harold444 and The Pro. Congratulations.
Where are the others? Posterlion? 1Ball? Sir Duniawala (at least he pops up sometimes in between)? Piper1? Thor93? And. So on, and so on. WHERE ARE ALL THE?
OK, ok, let's somehow start something new. We still have our Grandpa, his sausages. And Auntie Guido. That should be enough to get started. And then we might find some more writers, the Bestards of the future. Let's see.
Let's get started.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Wellll, first thing first!
You got to re-organize your troop of sycophants.
Or is it just troop of psychos?
LMAO.
Second, you got to throw some frilly covers over all your naugahide.
Third. Come up with more imaginative And SUBSTANTIAL discounts / scheme for us ISG members to come back and stay with you!
And last but not least. Get cracking yourself. The thread lived when you lived and died when you disappeared.
SEAN. Errr. Just sayin', thass'all
as with any call to arms there are those like myself who cannot resist the opportunity to respond to such a challenge! the global economy looking the way it is, it is no longer a strange thing to see retirees re-enter the workforce (cough. giottotopoulides. cough). and he is right. for every avid writer there are tens that read the constant ballet that is present in these forums.
not so long ago on the edge near the end of the world. the familiar smell of kerosene laden fuel fills the air as i partake in the traditional ceremony that is the cigarette after check in but before boarding. my arms can rest now that my luggage will not be seen by my eyes for another 11 hours or so. this is the time i desperately try to hold on to, to make this moment last longer than any other, the precursor to a journey for which i have planned in my mind for the last 6 months. but this journey is different. i have travel companions. a friend whom i've known for many years, exactly how many years is somewhere around 14-16 years, we debate this topic every time it comes up and it usually results in me giving into his somewhat better judgment. i've never been one to argue, as a matter of fact i hate it, so much so i try my very best to avoid it. it has been a while since i have travelled with people; i hope there will not be arguments.
the southern sky is beautiful to others but not to me. yes it is my home and for the better part of my life it is all i've known, but my home feels elsewhere now. it has been this way for a while. and for the first time in a long time, two people who have never seen this home before will have the pleasure of being introduced to it. i have done all the leg work for the past 6 years, my tastes are particular but hardly refined. when i come to know what i like, i tend to stick with it.
time to fly now, we are leaving on a jet plane, and even though we know exactly when we will be back again, it is not this moment i am looking forward to, actually, it is the furthest idea from my mind. an aging boeing 747 will be the conveyance of choice today. she is showing her age with her interior moulds showing that familiar yellow glue stains around her panels. the once great marsupial that adorns her tail has changed its shape for the 4th time in her 91 year history and she has never seen sorrier times. this will not be a comfortable flight. the plane is full. only 9 hours and 20 minutes to go. full thrust.
landed safely without incident and the race ensues to get through the majestic airport that is suvarnabhumi. i love this airport, if you ask me why the next time you are there inside her doors, look up. my travel companions struggle to keep up with me as i dart through parcels of people who aimlessly and inefficiently make their way through to customs and immigration. first sign of life, the red l. e. d signs above the immigrations officer that say: foreign passport. damn! i picked the wrong queue; i correctly profiled the queue members but made a false assumption about the immigration officer himself. mental note. pick the officer wearing headphones listening to his music or radio station of choice.
bags gotten and through the doors, i hear my friend remark about the waterfall that has encompassed his lower extremities, i am not worried, he will adjust to the heat and humidity. we take a large taxi from the rank and make our way past the billboards that seem to have multiplied since my last trip. it is night time so there will not be much to see, however my travel companions are consumed by the vehicles on the rama roads as we snake our way towards sukhumvit. as many times as i have made this journey the route that we take from the airport never seems to repeat itself. every driver seems to have their flavor. i do not mind. we come the back way down the famous painter's road. i am peering out the driver's side window looking for the elephant tusks. like a beacon in the night they call to me their siren song.
a familiar face greets me as we walk in off the soi. i politely nod as i walk up the alleyway entrance. my friends follow close as if to say don't go too far ahead that we lose you. they don't realize that if they do lose me, where we are going now is where you will find me, at any point in our trip.
the doctor is in. g's voice rattles through reception asking me 'who let you in here? ' i reply 'for a place that has no doors, how will you keep me out? ' g smiles and one arm extends out to welcome, i slap it away and i hug as best i can the tall man. g hates it when i do this. the bestard! mrs. g follows suit and jumps up, and if there is one task for the trip that i must complete successfully it is to catch her and don't let go.
i make introductions hastily with my friends as we finalize the check in procedure. i command my friends forcefully so there is no confusion. 'boys, go to your rooms, change into shorts, i will be by the pool'. they follow the commands with gusto and minutes later we are surrounded by the fairy lights that have haunted my dreams for 6 months.
simply put. i am home.
i order a mixed selection of what would be finger foods from the menu, just before the first singha's arrive. marinated chicken in banana leaf, mexican and greek spring rolls, bacon wrapped prawns / shrimp and the ever so crowd pleaser; fresh spring rolls. we cheers to partaking in the miracle that is human flight, we have nothing but time and the sportsbar to conquer. mrs g. is in the middle of her dinner and she joins us for our snack. beers are flowing and my friends cannot get over the food and ambiance. there is a family with some children on the other side of the restaurant and we keep our festivities to a mild roar. it seems quiet but this won't last for very long.
as i walk to relieve myself i courageously sneak a peek through the sportsbar windows and glass door. i see her. she is there, my heart melts and surely somebody upstairs has decided that for all the turmoil at work i have endured for the last 6 months, we will grant you a reprieve, a resolution to a question that has been plaguing you from the very start. an unknown has become a known. if she was schrödinger's cat, well my friends, i have succumbed to open the box, it's alive and well.
to be continued.
vqf
[QUOTE=Giotto;1295455]The ISG is dominated by Cheap-Charly price discussions,"do-not-tip" recommendations. And stupid comments from serial antagonists like Harold444 or offensive posts from The Pro (luckily semi-retired). What makes it all worse is that even French people can comment here now. So we all have to suffer the knowledge of my fatherly friend - Grandpa NicFrenchy. What a mess :) .[/QUOTE]I may be a Grandpa but you are completely Senile!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297091]NicFrenchy,
Thanks for coming by yesterday. With your new girlfriend (- picture). Pleasure talking to you. As always.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]I know you liked her, the way you were caressing her ass, YES, I saw you. You are lucky I am trying not to hit people with my cane anymore, or I would have sticked it up your ass, leaver her alone! She's mine
You Bestard! You are the Biggest Fogging Bestard of All Time! Mr Kurt Wagner has special discounts at the Lodge and I do not know about it? All this time I am on the lookout for a hotel, and you don't give me a discount? WTF is wrong here?
Or you don't want me in the Hotel? Affraid my lady will crack the bed? Hahahahaha
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1297122]I may be a Grandpa but you are completely Senile![/QUOTE]Yep, Grandpa.
I was waiting last night in Londoner, watching England vs. Italy. And who did not show up? The senile French Grandpa! Too tired, after the afternoon round with your new girlfriend ... ?
OMG, if I only think about how that might look like - I somehow don't feel good now ... .
Giotto
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1297111]...
You got to re-organize your troop of sycophants.
Or is it just troop of psychos?[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe, welcome back!!
You are the first returning sycophant. Or may be a psycho :) ? Right now. I am not sure.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Second, you got to throw some frilly covers over all your naugahide.[/QUOTE]Nope. My lovely chairs stay as they are. Period!
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]Third. Come up with more imaginative And SUBSTANTIAL discounts / scheme for us ISG members to come back and stay with you![/QUOTE]We are right now discussing about a surcharge for ISG members. Especially for the French. Let me think.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe]And last but not least. Get cracking yourself. The thread lived when you lived and died when you disappeared.[/QUOTE]Yep, it is so sad. I have to get active again. Must suffer for the sycophants, go to massage parlors and GoGo bars, organize night tours for the members, checking the quality in Climax and Insomnia. What a hard life this will be. I was retired already :) .
Can somebody please explain that to my GF :( ?
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1297128]You Bestard! You are the Biggest Fogging Bestard of All Time! Mr Kurt Wagner has special discounts at the Lodge and I do not know about it? All this time I am on the lookout for a hotel, and you don't give me a discount? WTF is wrong here?
Or you don't want me in the Hotel? Affraid my lady will crack the bed? Hahahahaha[/QUOTE]The simple problem is, that some Froggies obviously cannot read ... .
Check this out:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2536-Giotto-s-Lodge-General-Information&p=1291763&viewfull=1#post1291763[/URL]
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297138]The simple problem is, that some Froggies obviously cannot read. .
Check this out:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2536-Giotto-s-Lodge-General-Information&p=1291763&viewfull=1#post1291763[/URL]
Giotto[/QUOTE]1, 500++ I doubt you will give me that rate, too low, you will add a surcharge for me based on weight?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1297296]1, 500++ I doubt you will give me that rate, too low, you will add a surcharge for me based on weight?[/QUOTE]Froggie,
Cannot do that. If I added a surcharge based on the weight of your girlfriend [b]and your weight[/b] - would be cheaper for you to simply buy the hotel.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297091]NicFrenchy,
Thanks for coming by yesterday. With your new girlfriend (- picture). Pleasure talking to you. As always.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks alot, now I have to get a new keyboard and a fresh bowl of grits.
Slim
[quote=venomqf; 1297116]as with any call to arms there are those like myself who cannot resist the opportunity to respond to such a challenge! the global economy looking the way it is, it is no longer a strange thing to see retirees re-enter the workforce (cough. giottotopoulides. cough). and he is right. for every avid writer there are tens that read the constant ballet that is present in these forums.
not so long ago on the edge near the end of the world. the familiar smell of kerosene laden fuel fills the air as i partake in the traditional ceremony that is the cigarette after check in but before boarding. my arms can rest now that my luggage will not be seen by my eyes for another 11 hours or so. this is the time i desperately try to hold on to, to make this moment last longer than any other, the precursor to a journey for which i have planned in my mind for the last 6 months. but this journey is different. i have travel companions. a friend whom i've known for many years, exactly how many years is somewhere around 14-16 years, we debate this topic every time it comes up and it usually results in me giving into his somewhat better judgment. i've never been one to argue, as a matter of fact i hate it, so much so i try my very best to avoid it. it has been a while since i have travelled with people; i hope there will not be arguments.
the southern sky is beautiful to others but not to me. yes it is my home and for the better part of my life it is all i've known, but my home feels elsewhere now. it has been this way for a while. and for the first time in a long time, two people who have never seen this home before will have the pleasure of being introduced to it. i have done all the leg work for the past 6 years, my tastes are particular but hardly refined. when i come to know what i like, i tend to stick with it.
time to fly now, we are leaving on a jet plane, and even though we know exactly when we will be back again, it is not this moment i am looking forward to, actually, it is the furthest idea from my mind. an aging boeing 747 will be the conveyance of choice today. she is showing her age with her interior moulds showing that familiar yellow glue stains around her panels. the once great marsupial that adorns her tail has changed its shape for the 4th time in her 91 year history and she has never seen sorrier times. this will not be a comfortable flight. the plane is full. only 9 hours and 20 minutes to go. full thrust.
landed safely without incident and the race ensues to get through the majestic airport that is suvarnabhumi. i love this airport, if you ask me why the next time you are there inside her doors, look up. my travel companions struggle to keep up with me as i dart through parcels of people who aimlessly and inefficiently make their way through to customs and immigration. first sign of life, the red l. e. d signs above the immigrations officer that say: foreign passport. damn! i picked the wrong queue; i correctly profiled the queue members but made a false assumption about the immigration officer himself. mental note. pick the officer wearing headphones listening to his music or radio station of choice.
bags gotten and through the doors, i hear my friend remark about the waterfall that has encompassed his lower extremities, i am not worried, he will adjust to the heat and humidity. we take a large taxi from the rank and make our way past the billboards that seem to have multiplied since my last trip. it is night time so there will not be much to see, however my travel companions are consumed by the vehicles on the rama roads as we snake our way towards sukhumvit. as many times as i have made this journey the route that we take from the airport never seems to repeat itself. every driver seems to have their flavor. i do not mind. we come the back way down the famous painter's road. i am peering out the driver's side window looking for the elephant tusks. like a beacon in the night they call to me their siren song.
a familiar face greets me as we walk in off the soi. i politely nod as i walk up the alleyway entrance. my friends follow close as if to say don't go too far ahead that we lose you. they don't realize that if they do lose me, where we are going now is where you will find me, at any point in our trip.
the doctor is in. g's voice rattles through reception asking me 'who let you in here? ' i reply 'for a place that has no doors, how will you keep me out? ' g smiles and one arm extends out to welcome, i slap it away and i hug as best i can the tall man. g hates it when i do this. the bestard! mrs. g follows suit and jumps up, and if there is one task for the trip that i must complete successfully it is to catch her and don't let go.
i make introductions hastily with my friends as we finalize the check in procedure. i command my friends forcefully so there is no confusion. 'boys, go to your rooms, change into shorts, i will be by the pool'. they follow the commands with gusto and minutes later we are surrounded by the fairy lights that have haunted my dreams for 6 months.
simply put. i am home.
i order a mixed selection of what would be finger foods from the menu, just before the first singha's arrive. marinated chicken in banana leaf, mexican and greek spring rolls, bacon wrapped prawns / shrimp and the ever so crowd pleaser; fresh spring rolls. we cheers to partaking in the miracle that is human flight, we have nothing but time and the sportsbar to conquer. mrs g. is in the middle of her dinner and she joins us for our snack. beers are flowing and my friends cannot get over the food and ambiance. there is a family with some children on the other side of the restaurant and we keep our festivities to a mild roar. it seems quiet but this won't last for very long.
as i walk to relieve myself i courageously sneak a peek through the sportsbar windows and glass door. i see her. she is there, my heart melts and surely somebody upstairs has decided that for all the turmoil at work i have endured for the last 6 months, we will grant you a reprieve, a resolution to a question that has been plaguing you from the very start. an unknown has become a known. if she was schrödinger's cat, well my friends, i have succumbed to open the box, it's alive and well.
to be continued.
vqf[/quote]all,
don't miss this one. a new member, his reports will pop up a bit late, and then it disappears somewhere down in the post queue.
giotto
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1297460]Thanks alot, now I have to get a new keyboard and a fresh bowl of grits.
Slim[/QUOTE]Slim,
You are safe for now. He left for some days, so we don't have to expect more pictures of his beautiful GF right now. Only bad news is: HE WILL BE BACK :) .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
PS: I attached a picture from Froggie's childhood
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297756]Slim,
You are safe for now. He left for some days, so we don't have to expect more pictures of his beautiful GF right now. Only bad news is: HE WILL BE BACK. .
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
PS: I attached a picture from Froggie's childhood[/QUOTE]You BESTARD! Yes, you can count on me being back, and you will feel my BIG foot up your Small ass
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1297816]You BESTARD! Yes, you can count on me being back, and you will feel my BIG foot up your Small ass[/QUOTE]LOL,
I can imagine your [b]F-Cups[/b] bouncing up and down, when attempting to kick ... You are so sexy! ROFLMAO!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1297870]LOL,
I can imagine your [b]F-Cups[/b] Bouncing up and down, when attempting to kick. You are so sexy! ROFLMAO!
Giotto[/QUOTE]If I may?
But IMHO your recent attempts at reviving the thread is going down like a damp squid.
Think what you used to post up; soulful, interesting, informative snippets and useful How-to instructions especially for those not quite so familiar with LOS. Not all this diatribe and jibing and throwing nonsense insults at each other.
Boring, childish and will certainly just give the impression that the Lodge is primarily for a bunch of frat boys up to frat boy shenanigans.
Too much hanging around the empty swimming pool, just contemplating where has all the tourists gone perhaps?
SEAN. Hey, am really just trying to help out / definitely NOT trying to just stir your ire up. But please feel free to ignore if you think inappropriate.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1298047]If I may?
But IMHO your recent attempts at reviving the thread is going down like a damp squid.
Think what you used to post up; soulful, interesting, informative snippets and useful How-to instructions especially for those not quite so familiar with LOS. Not all this diatribe and jibing and throwing nonsense insults at each other.
Boring, childish and will certainly just give the impression that the Lodge is primarily for a bunch of frat boys up to frat boy shenanigans.
Too much hanging around the empty swimming pool, just contemplating where has all the tourists gone perhaps?
SEAN. Hey, am really just trying to help out / definitely NOT trying to just stir your ire up. But please feel free to ignore if you think inappropriate.[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Got your message, but let us not take things too seriously.
We will have a mix of background information, childish jokes, chit-chat, fun stories and whatever the readers like to read / post. For serious mongering information we have the threads in the Thailand forum, where all the specialists are adding their knowledge. This are the threads that lost the majority of their readers in the past few years, because the best writers were "retired" but the idiots survived.
The "Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok" forum will NOT be too serious, it will allow "Boring, childish" posts and "throwing nonsense insults at each other", within certain limitations. And then stories will pop up. You can find the first newbie story below already.
[b]Livingstone's Lodge shall be a relaxing fun place, where certain background information regarding the "purpose of this forum" is available[/b]. If we want to do serious marketing for the hotel we will NOT do that here - for that other websites like Agoda, TripAdvisor, FlyerTalk etc. etc. are available. Here, in this forum - we take things easy.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
All,
Tonight we will watch the semi-final of the Euro 2012
[b][size=+2]Germany vs. Italy[/size][/b]
in our Sports Lounge. Many of our regular customers will come to cheer Germany into the final [hopefully].
Everybody out there is welcome to join us!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1298107]All,
Tonight we will watch the semi-final of the Euro 2012
In our Sports Lounge. Many of our regular customers will come to cheer Germany into the final [hopefully].
Everybody out there is welcome to join us!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Whole Europe (except Italy) is hoping for Germany. Hate the slimy Italiens. Rock solid germans is the way. Is your sports bar a combined BJ bar nowdays? If yes then its worth to get the express plane from Sweden to LL.
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298120]Is your sports bar a combined BJ bar nowdays?[/QUOTE]Not a bad idea, need one on Soi 33. There's that little alcove room in the back area, put up a curtain and away you go!
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298120]Whole Europe (except Italy) is hoping for Germany. Hate the slimy Italiens. Rock solid germans is the way. Is your sports bar a combined BJ bar nowdays? If yes then its worth to get the express plane from Sweden to LL.[/QUOTE]You speak for the whole of Europe now? Your stats are wrong. I am in Favor of Italy, (oh and Screw the Swedes while you're at it, LOL)
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298175]You speak for the whole of Europe now? Your stats are wrong. I am in Favor of Italy, (oh and Screw the Swedes while you're at it, LOL)[/QUOTE]Hm, you are french right? If so does 2-0 say anything to you? .
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298120]Whole Europe (except Italy) is hoping for Germany. Hate the slimy Italiens. Rock solid germans is the way. Is your sports bar a combined BJ bar nowdays? If yes then its worth to get the express plane from Sweden to LL.[/QUOTE]Kid,
Thanks for the support [Germany]. But NO BJ bar in Livingstone's. BESTARD! Stay where you are :) .
Giotto
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298180]Hm, you are french right? If so does 2-0 say anything to you? .[/QUOTE]Does the quarter Finals say anything to you? Oh no, you did not get that far. So you can Zip it. Hahahahaha
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1298107]All,
Tonight we will watch the semi-final of the Euro 2012
In our Sports Lounge. Many of our regular customers will come to cheer Germany into the final [hopefully].
Everybody out there is welcome to join us!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Halftime and the Italians 2 goals up? A bit of work required by the Germans in the second half.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1298295]Halftime and the Italians 2 goals up? A bit of work required by the Germans in the second half.[/QUOTE]Fuck!
Giotto
Though I had expected that Mrs. Merkel had called Mr. Monti in such a critical moment - it obviously did not happen. But please be aware that Germany will not buy any Italian bonds / notes any more in near future :) .
I personally think we should not play Italy any more. Once Italy is to be played / in our group we should retire and travel home.
We obviously cannot deal with this team. Bionicman, say something, but - I hate you very much.
SHIT!
Giotto
[b]Btw. : I am Giotto!
[size=+4]Sono Italiano!!!!![/size][/b]
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1298340]Though I had expected that Mrs. Merkel had called Mr. Monti in such a critical moment. It obviously did not happen. But please be aware that Germany will not buy any Italian bonds / notes any more in near future. .
I personally think we should not play Italy any more. Once Italy is to be played / in our group we should retire and travel home.
We obviously cannot deal with this team. Bionicman, say something, but. I hate you very much.
SHIT!
Giotto[/QUOTE]Go imagine I watched the match in a large plaza surrounded by sausages in their home ground. Good thing the folks were quite international (spotted a few Asian cuties, but hey. You don't feed yourself in the working fields. So had just to dream) so there was less tension. At half time, as some rain drops started to come down I used that to go back in my hotel. Didn't want to be in troubles for the obvious win. Today I will walk in the office with an happy smile (albeit sleeping alone) and be what has to be. Giotto probably is not alone (in not loving Italians) we shall survive. Appointment is in 2 years, Mr G. But first we need to qualify for the world cup.
Ahahahahahahha ahahahahahaha ahahahahahaha ahahahahaha Where are the KRAUTS? Where's the SAUERKRAUT? Ahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298582]Ahahahahahahha ahahahahahaha ahahahahahaha ahahahahaha Where are the KRAUTS? Where's the SAUERKRAUT? Ahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha[/QUOTE]Germany's total defeat!
The soccer team, today Frau Merkel on the European playground, and I feel sick, too [Wheat Beer Poisoning] :):) . Looks as if world comes to an end.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298582]Ahahahahahahha ahahahahahaha ahahahahahaha ahahahahaha Where are the KRAUTS? Where's the SAUERKRAUT? Ahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha[/QUOTE]Is this Nic 45 or Nic 12? Maybe his account is hacked? O_o
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1298767]Is this Nic 45 or Nic 12? Maybe his account is hacked? O_o[/QUOTE]Kid,
he is in his sixties. He is (and he always was) a small-brained ugly fat French frog-eater. He is like that. I always feel sad when I meet him.
Forgive him his ignorance :) .
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
I have definitely no idea what can be done with Twitter. But I bought this new Samsung Galaxy SIII for my Thai mobile number. And activated 3 G (surprisingly that works here in Bangkok, even though the licensing procedures and regulations are legally not finalized). I downloaded the Twitter app and got started. Up to now I played around a bit.
A strange guy called [b]Giotto_BKK[/b] Is running around out there in Bangkok. Whenever he goes somewhere, and it is of interest for the purpose of this forum, he will tweet. I think everybody knows that I enhanced the definition of "purpose of this forum" a bit. It will not exclusively be about girls, beer bars, gogos or massage parlors. But about pubs, restaurants, late night spots, discos, Sukhumvit street bars etc. etc. .
I thought this [b]Giotto_BKK[/b] guy will write something like this:
"Just entered Baccara, Soi Cowboy. Plenty of girls (at least 40) , lots of customers, mostly Japanese. My neck hurts, because I watch the girls without underwear through the glass ceiling. Sadly I forgot my telescope - cannot see anything!"
... or ...
"Checked out the new English pub that replaced the Bulls Head in Soi 33/1. Royal Oak. Some people sitting outside, inside empty. Had Chili con Carne, was not impressed! Magners cider (tap). Ok!"
I will give it a try. If I see after a while that some followers are interested in this night tour tweets I will check out how I can connect that to this forum. Right now - let's tweet :):):) !
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1298968]Forgive him his ignorance :) .[/QUOTE]Talking about ignorance, who just got on to Twitter? And does not even know how to use it?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1298986]Talking about ignorance, who just got on to Twitter? And does not even know how to use it?[/QUOTE]Look, *****,
I at least try to reactivate my brain cells and learn how to work with Twitter. [b]Giotto_BKK[/b]. You remember?
Tomorrow there will be another Twitter start-up talking about the stock markets, the financial crisis, Thai politics and Bangkok related issues. I think nobody would ever try to write about those issues in 140 bytes comment length. That's a challenge! Let's try to explain the problems of the world - with a few words! Then even you, *****, might understand something [very unlikely though]. Ahhh, I get it now, Twitter was developed for the French :) !
Will need to think about the name for that on Twitter. Doctor G?
Besides me - what are you doing, *****? I mean - what are you contributing to the society besides useless comments on the ISG and the attempt to spreading BigC to innocent women all over Bangkok :) ?
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
Guys,
I was out in Patpong yesterday. I was tweeting. Until my mobile gave up (low battery). Will complete all the info tomorrow. Don't forget [b]Giotto_BKK ![/b]
Giotto
PS: There is one fantastic Gogo bar in Patpong. Found it yesterday. Real quality in there.
This morning I found out why my mobile had given up that fast (low battery). Instead of a pictures my camera made videos. .
I learn a lot this days. Today I learned how to take snapshots with the VLC media player out of a video. I extracted some pictures and [post-]tweeted all that. Right now you can find the pictures of you follow or search for [b]Giotto_BKK[/b] On Twitter.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1299092]Giotto.
PS: There is one fantastic Gogo bar in Patpong. Found it yesterday. Real quality in there.[/QUOTE]This picture you use on twitter, is it you in the 50s or someone you just... like :)
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1299169]This morning I found out why my mobile had given up that fast (low battery). Instead of a pictures my camera made videos. .
I learn a lot this days. Today I learned how to take snapshots with the VLC media player out of a video. I extracted some pictures and [post-]tweeted all that. Right now you can find the pictures of you follow or search for [b]Giotto_BKK[/b] On Twitter.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Ahahahahahahahaha you can't even operate a fricking phone and you're going to give people lessons on the online stock market? OMG, please lord, help us, what is this world coming to.
[QUOTE=Kid Icarus;1299175]This picture you use on twitter, is it you in the 50s or someone you just. like :)[/QUOTE]Kid,
LOL, that picture was uploaded from NicFrenchy a few weeks ago. I thought it is a brilliant picture for the virtual figure [b]Giotto_BKK[/b] on Twitter!
Giotto
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1299244]Ahahahahahahahaha you can't even operate a fricking phone and you're going to give people lessons on the online stock market? OMG, please lord, help us, what is this world coming to.[/QUOTE]Froggie,
Cameras and phones - that's difficult stuff. Stock markets - that's easy :) .
Giotto
A good read:
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2012/reader7520.htm[/URL]
We are still waiting for Froggies instructions. And in the meantime we can learn from Napster.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1299636]A good read:
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ReadersSubmissions2012/reader7520.htm[/URL]
We are still waiting for Froggies instructions. And in the meantime we can learn from Napster.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice Story.
Hi Guys: I just wanted to thank Guido, Giotto, and the rest of the crew at Livingstones in Bangkok.
I had a fanfuckingtastic time there over the past 4 days. 2 hours off the plane I met Mam in the bar downstairs, who kept me company,
And later acted as my tour guide to this wonderful city. Since this is a p4p based site, I felt obliged to post a sexy picture, but I don't have any of me
With my shorts down, so this one have to do. The next one is of Guido. He looks a little grumpy in this pic, but that just because he doesn't like photos. Guido gave me some great advice about where to go and what to do. These guys will take care of you.
This was my first trip to BKK, but I will definately be coming back, and for damn sure will stay at Livingstones again.
BR Sharky
Played some pool with the Frenchman yesterday.
I was surprised - he really plays very well. But the funny part of it is the moment, when he tries difficult shots, and the cue ball is a bit our of reach. Then he has to place his HUGE belly somewhere on the table, without touching the balls. That's a really difficult issue for him :):):) ...
Froggie - whats about losing 50 kg? Then everything gets better, and you also might be able to go out for mongering purposes again. What do you think :) ?
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1301949]Played some pool with the Frenchman yesterday.
I was surprised. He really plays very well. But the funny part of it is the moment, when he tries difficult shots, and the cue ball is a bit our of reach. Then he has to place his HUGE belly somewhere on the table, without touching the balls. That's a really difficult issue for him. .
Froggie. Whats about losing 50 kg? Then everything gets better, and you also might be able to go out for mongering purposes again. What do you think. ?
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Hahahahaha you BESTARD!
I will make you pay for this
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1301955]Hahahahaha you BESTARD! I will make you pay for this[/QUOTE]He should pay for your dietary consultant! .
Just chatted with Froggie. It's getting worrisome, what does he mean with that:
"I will ram my cue far up your ass!"
He is gay :(:( !!! Sausages! Cue up the ass! As the Auntie told us long time ago already .
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1302350]Just chatted with Froggie. It's getting worrisome, what does he mean with that:
"I will ram my cue far up your ass!"
He is gay. ! Sausages! Cue up the ass! As the Auntie told us long time ago already.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Who are you talking about?
[QUOTE=Sharky Skinner; 1301915]Hi Guys: I just wanted to thank Guido, Giotto, and the rest of the crew at Livingstones in Bangkok.
I had a fanfuckingtastic time there over the past 4 days. 2 hours off the plane I met Mam in the bar downstairs, who kept me company,
And later acted as my tour guide to this wonderful city. Since this is a p4p based site, I felt obliged to post a sexy picture, but I don't have any of me
With my shorts down, so this one have to do. The next one is of Guido. He looks a little grumpy in this pic, but that just because he doesn't like photos. Guido gave me
Some great advice about where to go and what to do. These guys will take care of you.
This was my first trip to BKK, but I will definately be coming back, and for damn sure will stay at Livingstones again.
BR Sharky[/QUOTE]Sharky Skinner,
Thank you very much for staying here at Livingstone's Lodge. It was a pleasure to have you with us.
Come back soon!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL]
Hi Giotto,
I just read your detailed massage parlor report.
Unfortunately it was written in 2007.
Are there any updates (that I have not found)?
If not, WHERE do I find any reliable updates to get me ready for my BKK-visit in October?
Thanks,
Alex
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1298047]If I may?
But IMHO your recent attempts at reviving the thread is going down like a damp squid.
Think what you used to post up; soulful, interesting, informative snippets and useful How-to instructions especially for those not quite so familiar with LOS. Not all this diatribe and jibing and throwing nonsense insults at each other.
Boring, childish and will certainly just give the impression that the Lodge is primarily for a bunch of frat boys up to frat boy shenanigans.
Too much hanging around the empty swimming pool, just contemplating where has all the tourists gone perhaps?
SEAN. Hey, am really just trying to help out / definitely NOT trying to just stir your ire up. But please feel free to ignore if you think inappropriate.[/QUOTE][QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Got your message, but let us not take things too seriously.
We will have a mix of background information, childish jokes, chit-chat, fun stories and whatever the readers like to read / post. For serious mongering information we have the threads in the Thailand forum, where all the specialists are adding their knowledge. This are the threads that lost the majority of their readers in the past few years, because the best writers were "retired" but the idiots survived.
The "Giotto's Lodge in Bangkok" forum will NOT be too serious, it will allow "Boring, childish" posts and "throwing nonsense insults at each other", within certain limitations. And then stories will pop up. You can find the first newbie story below already.
Livingstone's Lodge shall be a relaxing fun place, where certain background information regarding the "purpose of this forum" is available. If we want to do serious marketing for the hotel we will NOT do that here. For that other websites like Agoda, TripAdvisor, FlyerTalk etc. Etc. Are available. Here, in this forum. We take things easy.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Hmmmmm!
A hive of activity here. Somebody remember to turn off the lights after all the kids finished name-calling and playing here will ya!
LMAO!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1302936]Thank you very much for staying here at Livingstone's Lodge. It was a pleasure to have you with us.
Come back soon!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstones.co.th[/URL][/QUOTE]Is Livingstone Lodge something similar to Black Beard Resort in Dominican Republic, where girls sit around the bar and the pool and are available virtually all day long? How many girls are typically around and is it noisy party hotel?
Never been to Thailand but I am thinking to hit it around Thanksgiving. I am thinking of spending time in BKK, Phuket (beaches) and couple days to see Pattaya. Would anybody have any suggestion to this itinerary?
Thanks.
H
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1313753]Is Livingstone Lodge something similar to Black Beard Resort in Dominican Republic, where girls sit around the bar and the pool and are available virtually all day long? How many girls are typically around and is it noisy party hotel? Thanks.H[/QUOTE]No, this would be a wrong picture. I don't think anything like this is available in whole Asia. Not even in the Penthouse Hotel in Pattaya, this being a clearly mongering hotel.
LL is a quiet place in the heart of BKK, fully GF but very discrete. Lots might happen but it is all behind the doors of the rooms.
You will not get much signs at breakfasts, like you see in some places, with guests with local "nieces"'having breakfast together. Mainly because breakfast is nearly all day long so, so spreaded around, LOL. Still, breakfast has a Thai menu. Indications many Thai (girls) have breakfast there, but you don't see them checking in with the hotel guest when he arrives, so figure out how this happens.
There is a inhouse sports bar, and as any bar of that kind in Thailand, there are hostesses not letting you feeling alone, in case you are. Somebody got to eat those Thai breakfasts, right? It doesn't all come for cheap, maybe this represents a natural selection of the guests.
PS by the way, I think that Black Beard (in Haiti, not in Dominican Republic, being also the island hosting both called Hispaniola) is past history....gone with the wind.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1313764]There is a inhouse sports bar, and has any bar of that kind in Thailand, there are hostesses not letting you feeling alone, in case you are. Somebody got to eat those Thai breakfasts, right? It doesn't all come for cheap, maybe this represents a natural selection of the guests.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply and clarification.
So hostesses of LL sports bar are available to make you company and you can bring yourself company.
How easy is to find p4p company in BKK other then bar girls, I read about, where you pay bar fee? Is LL bar similar type with bar fee?
I like FKKs in Germany and I like relaxed environment where you can make small talk with girls to see if there is some chemistry. I do not like to pick girls based on looks only, I did not like Macau saunas for that reason, you have no interaction with girl except to look into them. How is in Thailand?
H
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1313774]Thanks for the reply and clarification.
So hostesses of LL sports bar are available to make you company and you can bring yourself company.
How easy is to find p4p company in BKK other then bar girls, I read about, where you pay bar fee? Is LL bar similar type with bar fee?
I like FKKs in Germany and I like relaxed environment where you can make small talk with girls to see if there is some chemistry. I do not like to pick girls based on looks only, I did not like Macau saunas for that reason, you have no interaction with girl except to look into them. How is in Thailand?
H[/QUOTE]Of course if you find a girl there that suits you, why not? The advantage of taking inhouse girls is that there is no bad surprises in terms of whom you bring in your room. Same is also if you take from known bars, as the girls are known there. I don't want to scare you as it is not the case, but sometime taking a stranger girl, mainly FL's, be her for ST or LT might result in unexpected troubles. Not the rule, mind you, but it happens. If you are a first comer go for the safe route, till you get familiar with the environment and learn how to read through the lines. Lots of FL give good performances in all terms, so rules are not engraved in stone, but available for reading.
Nobody being a GF hotel you can bring in a take away from elsewhere and they will not object. Rooms are always booked for two occupants, and the beds, being thai girls often tiny, can take, well, a good party on. Again, Mind you, Thai girls not over enthusiasts of 3-somes, so even if you take two back home, one might take looooong showers whilst you enjoy the other one, get it? YMMV.
Walk from Soi 33 to Soi 4, it is a good 20-30' walk, don't do it under the hitting sun, and as much as you approach the so called low sukhumvit you will see the scene, venture in the side soil, see the bars, the MP', RTFF to learn about the oilies. Soap massages, spot the FL on the street, enjoy food of any kind at Gulliver and you will not miss some glances at you. Or take after dinner drinks at Bangkok Beat.
I know, pretty much obvious destinations for guys with lot of mileage in BKK, but ideal to plunge in for a newcomer.
Browse one evening in Soi cowboy, one in nana plaza, and their go-go bars and girls, spend time in the terrace bars nearby Nana Plaza and nana parking, and you will learn how things happen. You will also recognise the LB from where you can stay away if that is not your scene (LOL, there are quite some, there must be a demand!).
Bar fines are paid to the bar, as the name suggests, and is a way to reimburse the bar for the girl being away and not working (and not generating drink incomes through the customers they stay with at the table).
Prices vary, some places can be steep, each one its own and it is up to the individual to chose to pay it or abort the night of passion with the girl. FL don't have BF of course, rarely go ST, and are cheaper in general. BF is the same whether you take the girl ST or LT.
I would stay away from the places offering shows as ping pong balls etc. Overexpensive circus act, but each one his own.
Always think first with big head and not with small head.
Make sure you don't wear beer goggles when selecting the girl.
Don't decide to "marry" for the whole period of your stay the first LT girl you meet. She might be a diamond, but you are going to neglect yourself all the discoveries in the following days. And you will come back with just ONE report here, and unaware of the big potential BKK has to offer.
Hope You have some basic guidelines here.
Would there be any chance of an update on the current levels of barfines / ladies' fees at Livingstone's Lodge?
Details were published on the forum once, but a long time ago now.
Bionicman,
Thanks for the great info.
When I get there I will be starving and will need a lot of pops first several days. Then after that few per day is fine. I prefer ST so I plan to hit MPs and Oilies that are well described here. Annie's I heard is a must visit. I never tried GF so it may be fun to try for few days.
What are the prices in BKK these days? How much does it cost bar lady from Livingston Lodge for ST (1-2 hours)? How about from other places and FL?
I plan to spend about 1 week in BKK and 1 week in Phuket for some beach, vacation and fun. I am not sure if Pattaya is worth spending few days at the expense of the other 2 locations. Pattaya looks to me like too much of mongering and only mongering. I am thinking to take a day trip just to see it. What is your opinion, is BKK and Phuket plenty for 2 weeks in Thailand? What else is worth visiting like Phuket to be good vacation destination but that there is plenty of fun available, too?
H
[QUOTE=Hedonian;1314062]Bionicman, Thanks for the great infoH[/QUOTE]I don't think the inhouse ladies are meant for ST, but of course I think you can discuss the matter. I once took one kind of "forcely" ST as she could not stay over 3am and I picked her up after midnight. This was clear at negotiation time.
Then each one his own. This is why it is hard (no pun intended) to suggest one place rather than another one.
Oilies are probably more suitable for draining the plumbings, you might also take in account a couple of BJ bars, for instance.
It is all in ISG, do some homework and you will get the idea of the average prices and fees. And if and when a tip (a real tip) is needed.
I have never been to Pattaya but I share the same opinion: worth for 24hrs meet and greet, unless one is really in a mission.
[QUOTE=Travel2; 1313592]Hi Giotto,
I just read your detailed massage parlor report.
Unfortunately it was written in 2007.
Are there any updates (that I have not found)?
If not, WHERE do I find any reliable updates to get me ready for my BKK-visit in October?
Thanks,
Alex[/QUOTE]Travel2,
Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. .
Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1314915]Travel2, Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy. Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey bro', can you share contacts? LMAO!
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1315064]Hey bro', can you share contacts? LMAO![/QUOTE]LOL.
Can!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Hi Giotto,
Your not too old I am too old. I guess I will have to my dead ass back there and wake you up!
I guess married life with your beautiful woman could keep you "occupied". Or tied up?
Try to be there in Aug or Sept.
Bestard!
Oldload
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1314915]Travel2,
Sadly no more update after 2007. I am much too old for all that. .
Updates are available in the massage parlor threads in the main Thailand forum. Read the reports from Syzygies and NicFrenchy.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldLoad; 1316908]Hi Giotto,
Your not too old I am too old. I guess I will have to my dead ass back there and wake you up!
I guess married life with your beautiful woman could keep you "occupied". Or tied up?
Try to be there in Aug or Sept.
Bestard!
Oldload[/QUOTE]OldLoad,
Spot on!
I could write a new version of scientific MP analysis. But I would hardly survive it. My wife reads the forum, and whenever I write something there are one or two local Bangkok expats who love to discuss with her what I wrote. For what reasons ever.
This is how it is, so I am a bit restricted in my options. And I know, that I have to explain the picturesque phrases and writing style of this report soon.
And of course - my beautiful wife is demanding, and I am that old. LOL.
Get back over here, it's too empty! We need some more customers for some more fun!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1317022]My wife reads the forum, and whenever I write something there are one or two local Bangkok expats who love to discuss with her what I wrote. For what reasons ever.[/QUOTE]The reason is that they are some Shitheads. I can't imagine how stupid or Moronic a person could be to do that. Tell us the names of these Assholes.
Giotto,
My handle was not always OldLoad, perhaps you noted the low number of posts. I used to contribute many years ago in a number of another forum (the old Jackson forum) forums until someone I thought I knew well put 2+2 together and tried use it against me. It did not work, but it sure made it difficult for me. That is a story for telling over a few beers by the pool. I do know this: Life is too short worry about these little people with no life of their own. We have the fun, they are just small minded little insignificant insects that wish they could do what we do and live as large as we do. How many people could move to Bangkok buy a hotel and surround himself with beautiful young women? (talking about insects have you sprayed for insects around the pool? Or are waiting to feed them an old fat man (me).
OldLoad.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1317022]OldLoad,
Spot on!
I could write a new version of scientific MP analysis. But I would hardly survive it. My wife reads the forum, and whenever I write something there are one or two local Bangkok expats who love to discuss with her what I wrote. For what reasons ever.
This is how it is, so I am a bit restricted in my options. And I know, that I have to explain the picturesque phrases and writing style of this report soon.
And of course. My beautiful wife is demanding, and I am that old. LOL.
Get back over here, it's too empty! We need some more customers for some more fun!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldLoad; 1317542]Giotto,
My handle was not always OldLoad, perhaps you noted the low number of posts. I used to contribute many years ago in a number of another forum (the old Jackson forum) forums until someone I thought I knew well put 2+2 together and tried use it against me. It did not work, but it sure made it difficult for me. That is a story for telling over a few beers by the pool. I do know this: Life is too short worry about these little people with no life of their own. We have the fun, they are just small minded little insignificant insects that wish they could do what we do and live as large as we do. How many people could move to Bangkok buy a hotel and surround himself with beautiful young women? (talking about insects have you sprayed for insects around the pool? Or are waiting to feed them an old fat man (me).
OldLoad.[/QUOTE]OldLoad,
Sure thing. Let's talk it through over a few beer at the pool.
As for the mosquitoes - we usually spray twice a months, and provide some organic lemongrass spray for our customers (mosquitoes hate that staff). Still - there are always some left, whatever we do. If you expect them to enjoy you --- you will not be disappointed :) .
Back to the massage parlor report: All guests of the hotel, restaurant and Sports Lounge have of course access to [the rest of] my [remaining] knowledge. Just talk to me, and I will give advice as good as I can.
Everybody knows, that I never mentioned provider names here at the forum, because I know, that most providers described to deliver superior service then disappear very fast. But in a discussion over a beer, to one or the other guest - sometimes names are mentioned :) .
C U soon back at the Lodge!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1314062]Bionicman,
Thanks for the great info.
When I get there I will be starving and will need a lot of pops first several days. Then after that few per day is fine. I prefer ST so I plan to hit MPs and Oilies that are well described here. Annie's I heard is a must visit. I never tried GF so it may be fun to try for few days.
What are the prices in BKK these days? How much does it cost bar lady from Livingston Lodge for ST (1-2 hours)? How about from other places and FL?
I plan to spend about 1 week in BKK and 1 week in Phuket for some beach, vacation and fun. I am not sure if Pattaya is worth spending few days at the expense of the other 2 locations. Pattaya looks to me like too much of mongering and only mongering. I am thinking to take a day trip just to see it. What is your opinion, is BKK and Phuket plenty for 2 weeks in Thailand? What else is worth visiting like Phuket to be good vacation destination but that there is plenty of fun available, too?
H[/QUOTE]Hedonian,
Let me get involved here and give you some answers.
I think your strategy is basically right. When you come here, very excited, try the soapies and oilies during the first few days. Those providers are very professional and know what a man needs. Once you are more relaxed you can go for GFE.
Oily and Soapy prices are mentioned in the massage parlor thread[s]. Gogo bar prices are discussed as of THB 1,500.00 - THB 2,500.00 for ST and THB 3,000.00 - THB 4,000.00 LT. Freelancer (lower Sukhumvit) are starting with THB 1,000.00, some even lower for whatever service and time period they want to deliver --- and depending on looks and age.
In Livingstone's the girls prices are business of the girl. We do not get involved into that. It definitely depends on the decision of each single girl. As Indication I would say, that the girls will ask for THB 2,000.00 ST and THB 3,000.00 LT. But there are girls that will ask for more.
I also like your travel plan spending a week in Bangkok and another week in Phuket. Alternatively you could select the beaches of Koh Samui, Krabi, Koh Samet etc. Etc. , but you need to take a provider there, you will not find enough selection (may be in Lamai / Samui).
Due to the fact that I simply don't like Pattaya (a shithole in my POV) I will never recommend to go there.
Hope that helps a bit.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1313687].
A hive of activity here. Somebody remember to turn off the lights after all the kids finished name-calling and playing here will ya!
LMAO![/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
LOL, you are way to negative, man.
Just give it some time. Pacienza, mio amico!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto;1317797]In Livingstone's the girls prices are business of the girl. We do not get involved into that. It definitely depends on the decision of each single girl. As Indication I would say, that the girls will ask for THB 2,000.00 ST and THB 3,000.00 LT. But there are girls that will ask for more.[/QUOTE]You fucking BESTARD! You thought you could hide the fact that you have new Young girls in your bar? Why did you not tell me? I had to come to the Bar to find out? NONSENSE. I MUST be AWARE immediately.
By the way, new girls look good.
Can I get a FREE Sample?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1317941].
By the way, new girls look good.
Can I get a FREE Sample?[/QUOTE]Froggy,
Short answer: No!
Surcharge for you, as usual.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1317956]Froggy,
Surcharge for you, as usual. Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Importing french mustard for german sausages is getting expensive, I can well understand why you add a surcharge.
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1314062]Bionicman,
I plan to spend about 1 week in BKK and 1 week in Phuket for some beach, vacation and fun. I am not sure if Pattaya is worth spending few days at the expense of the other 2 locations. Pattaya looks to me like too much of mongering and only mongering. I am thinking to take a day trip just to see it. What is your opinion, is BKK and Phuket plenty for 2 weeks in Thailand? What else is worth visiting like Phuket to be good vacation destination but that there is plenty of fun available, too?
H[/QUOTE]Hi Hedonian,
I understand your dilemma. I've been coming to Thailand about every six months for the last 6 years. I discovered LL about 3 years ago and now make it my home base during each trip. It's become my 'dream' home away from home. I have gotten to know Giotto over the years and he has given me some very useful knowledge each time I visit. He tells it like he sees it but in the end it's up to you and fate. I normally split my time between Pattaya and BKK starting and ending up at LL. Pattaya is a mongering paradise and I wouldn't pass it up if I were you. I make it a point to start out with the MP's during the days, hit the go-goes, cruse the Sois and sample the sports bar at night for the first few days and then do the same thing at the end of my visit.
This last trip in July I had 3 weeks and wanted to see the islands of Ko Samui, Ko PiPi and Phuket. So I spent my first few days at LL, as usual and planning my adventure. I had a number of chats with Giotto and he gave me basically the same advice he is giving you. I tried finding a traveling companion in BKK and even asked one of the LL girls without success I went off to Pattaya for a few days to give it a try and had a great time but again I didn't find anyone I'the like to travel with. So I came back to LL for and couple of days before heading to the Islands. (BTW, I showed up un-announced and it turned out that LL was full but Giotto saved the day by fixing a toilet by himself so I'the have a room) Anyway, to make a long story short, I ended up going to Ko Samui by myself and found a girl the first night that I ended up staying with and took to Krabi and Ko Pipi and ended up bringing back to LL before I send her on her way. I never made it to Phuket but Ko Samui, Krabi and Ko Pipi were fantastic. My experience was that there are plenty of girls in Ko Samui to choose from and I'm sure that is true in Phuket too if you are an experienced mongerler. But one thing you should know is watch out for your heart and your wallet if you travel with a Thai girl and remember to give yourself at least three days 'get your head on straight again'. Hence, remember to give yourself time at the end to sample the MP's and go-goes again and remember it's all really a dream.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1317990]Importing french mustard for german sausages is getting expensive, I can well understand why you add a surcharge.[/QUOTE]Bionicman,
Thanks for reminding me of this gay French / German interaction. Disgusting! I will double the surcharge.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
BESTARDS!
Both of you Muppets
[QUOTE=Go Forit; 1318048]...
Pattaya is a mongering paradise and I wouldn't pass it up if I were you. I make it a point to start out with the MP's during the days, hit the go-goes, cruse the Sois and sample the sports bar at night for the first few days and then do the same thing at the end of my visit.
...
[/QUOTE]Go Forit,
Thanks for your comments. Got your message. :):) . BESTARD!
Guys, listen to the man! I am not a friend of Pattaya. But obviously it can be enjoyable.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1317797]Hedonian,
Let me get involved here and give you some answers.
I think your strategy is basically right. When you come here, very excited, try the soapies and oilies during the first few days. Those providers are very professional and know what a man needs. Once you are more relaxed you can go for GFE.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Go Forit; 1318048]Hi Hedonian,
I understand your dilemma. I've been coming to Thailand about every six months for the last 6 years. I discovered LL about 3 years ago and now make it my home base during each trip.[/QUOTE]Giotto, Go Forit,
Thank you for your feedback, it really helps a great deal in my anticipation of hitting BKK ground right. Also the rest of Thailand in 2 weeks, too. I cannot wait to get there.
Giotto,
I would like to stay at your place. I am arriving at the end of November with my wingman and we will need 2 rooms reserved. How should I go about this? Should I just send e-mail at your site?
Thanks.
H
[QUOTE=Hedonian; 1319182]Giotto, Go Forit,
Thank you for your feedback, it really helps a great deal in my anticipation of hitting BKK ground right. Also the rest of Thailand in 2 weeks, too. I cannot wait to get there.
Giotto,
I would like to stay at your place. I am arriving at the end of November with my wingman and we will need 2 rooms reserved. How should I go about this? Should I just send e-mail at your site?
Thanks.
H[/QUOTE]Hedonian,
E-Mail to info@livingstoneslodge.com
Then we discuss all details.
Much appreciated :) !
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
We are renovating. Attached some pictures.
Fans of the light wooden walls of the Superior Room area (101 - 108) will be disappointed. The walls are exchanged by stone walls now, and will provide some better sound protection.
All bathrooms are renovated already, Wallpaper is next. And - the swimming pool !
BTW, the noisy part of the renovation lies behind us already, the renovation will be completed until the end of this month.
Giotto
Stayed at LL for a few nights over the last two weekends. Initially thought G was away on business as The Burgermeister's office by the pool had been vacated but he has moved into the office by reception as Auntie has moved on to run a restaurant in Patpong. There has been a turn over in staff but the best ones are still there.
As G says there are renovations going on, pretty major as well, but I didn't hear anything when I was there. What G has planned sounds excellent. The pool cleaning was underway on Saturday. You have to admire G's negotiating skills when he has the guests grafting in 30deg heat scrubbing the tiles of his pool. Luckily I avoided this but watching reminded me of.
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th_aBzrV37M&feature=youtube_gdata_player.[/url]
The ladies in the Sports Bar looked as beautiful as ever and in need of company.
As usual, a great few days at LL. Cheers Giotto.
Swimming Pool: Before and After.
Industrial cleaner removed the rust (a combination of Phosphoric and Nitric Acid).
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingsstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Re-Filling the pool. 25 truck loads of water.
The renovation is done!
Giotto
[URL]http;//www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Can't wait to see what the renovations will look like, it was already a great place. Congratulations!
The swimming pool after renovation in daylight!
Done, end of the rust-in-tiles story!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1344810]The swimming pool after renovation in daylight!
Done, end of the rust-in-tiles story! Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Well done Mr. G. Oooooops. Herr G.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1344810]The swimming pool after renovation in daylight!
Done, end of the rust-in-tiles story!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Looks Great. I didn't really see any issues during my visit, and what a peaceful oasis in the heart of all the madness!
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam; 1340305]Stayed at LL for a few nights over the last two weekends. Initially thought G was away on business as The Burgermeister's office by the pool had been vacated but he has moved into the office by reception as Auntie has moved on to run a restaurant in Patpong. There has been a turn over in staff but the best ones are still there.
As G says there are renovations going on, pretty major as well, but I didn't hear anything when I was there. What G has planned sounds excellent. The pool cleaning was underway on Saturday. You have to admire G's negotiating skills when he has the guests grafting in 30deg heat scrubbing the tiles of his pool. Luckily I avoided this but watching reminded me of.[/QUOTE]Sonic Bam,
Yep, things have changed here a lot, and for the time being I run the show by myself. No more outside office at the swimming pool.
A short overview about the actual changes of the past 3 months:
- The swimming pool was always a discussion point in the internet, people thought it was dirty. It was never dirty, but rust hat turned the blue tiles green. It's fixed now.
- The Superior Rooms were destroyed by a massive termite attack. We found termites in nearly all walls and the ceiling. We took all walls and ceilings out and put Ytong walls in. That fixes also the "noise problem": before you could easily hear what was happening in the room next to you. That's over now.
- Before we had 8 Superior Rooms, from now on we will only have 6 of this room category. 2 are combined for an Executive Double room with an Double Jacuzzi and a lot of space. Of course. A higher rate will be charged.
- All other rooms (Deluxe and Executive) are now upgraded with LED (!) flat-screen TV's and DVD Player with iPad / iPhone docking station (HDMI connection to the TV).
- Many bathrooms got a complete overhaul. More shower curtains were installed around Jacuzzis, Wallpaper work is done on the floors.
Besides the renovation / upgrades of the rooms we are running a massive marketing campaign, are listed in several more internet booking sites already. And it's quite successful. We are nearly fully booked right now until Christmas, and the bookings for January to March are coming in already. Things are clearly turning around.
If somebody wants to book please do it on our website
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
or via our facebook page
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/LivingstonesLodge[/URL]
The room rates are same on all websites, and if you book via an OTA (online travel agent like Agoda) we lose the commission, and you win nothing.
We still negotiate discounts, but only for guests staying longer than 15 days and for returning customers. Otherwise there is no such thing as discount any more here at Livingstone's Lodge.
If you like the facebook page - appreciated, that helps us a lot. But remember, that is facebook, not the ISG. [b]No mongering activities shall ever be mentioned there.[/b]
Sonic Bam,
Thanks for staying here, it was a pleasure as always. Looking forward to seeing you back at the Lodge in the first quarter of 2013!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
PS: Attached 2 pictures of the new TV's and DVD players
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1345254]Sonic Bam,
Yep, things have changed here a lot, and for the time being I run the show by myself. No more outside office at the swimming pool.
A short overview about the actual changes of the past 3 months:
- The swimming pool.
The room rates are same on all websites, and if you book via an OTA (online travel agent like Agoda) we lose the commission, and you win nothing.
We still negotiate discounts, but only for guests staying longer than 15 days and for returning customers. Otherwise there is no such thing as discount any more here at Livingstone's Lodge.
If you like the facebook page. Appreciated, that helps us a lot. But remember, that is facebook, not the ISG. [b]No mongering activities shall ever be mentioned there. [/b]
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
S[/QUOTE]Wow! A beehive of activities! Congrats on making LL just that much better!
But IMHO, LL's greatest attraction had always been Giotto the man himself. His willingness to be friends with guests, no-nonsense advise and guidance on just about anything LOS / Bangkok and of course the no-nonsense methods to his whole operation; an invaluable port of sense / fairness when one is totally surrounded by the madness, insensibility and havoc of Bangkok.
My best wishes for your continued success Biermeister!
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1344810]The swimming pool after renovation in daylight!
Done, end of the rust-in-tiles story!
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]How long before some drunk stands on the side and pisses in the pool?
Hope you put the chemicals in that turns colors when you whiz in the clean pool. Would be funny to catch some cute little bunny relieving herself.
Looks great. LL is still on my bucket list.
Slim
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1341513]Swimming Pool: Before and After.
Industrial cleaner removed the rust (a combination of Phosphoric and Nitric Acid).
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingsstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Giotto, you look so different in this picture, LOL.
[QUOTE=Sonic Bam;1340305]Stayed at LL for a few nights over the last two weekends. Initially thought G was away on business as The Burgermeister's office by the pool had been vacated but he has moved into the office by reception as Auntie has moved on to run a restaurant in Patpong. There has been a turn over in staff but the best ones are still there.[/QUOTE]Turnover in staff? Are Wan and Miao (?) there still?
I haven't been there since June, when I had a fabulous time there. I seem to recall Giotto in the Sports Bar late at night recording the weird dancing going on.
I had an equally fabulous time there in April.
Time to go back soon. I am thinking January.
-h
I am mulling over a trip to BKK in early Feb 2013. This will be my first trip there and I am scouring over the forum to get the scoop first hand.
I am really liking the sound of LL and how well they are supported by ISG members. Soon as I book my flight I'll check again for the room availability.
Just curious how things are that time of year as I am mostly used to tripping in South America (specifically Rio) and know there are certain times of the year the girls travel to Europe, etc.
Cheers!
GS
[QUOTE=GreatScott; 1358320]I am mulling over a trip to BKK in early Feb 2013. This will be my first trip there and I am scouring over the forum to get the scoop first hand.
I am really liking the sound of LL and how well they are supported by ISG members. Soon as I book my flight I'll check again for the room availability.
Just curious how things are that time of year as I am mostly used to tripping in South America (specifically Rio) and know there are certain times of the year the girls travel to Europe, etc. Heers! GS[/QUOTE]I don't think many thai (working) girls to Europe (if they know where Europe is) in any period of the year. You might have some girls temporarily moving to Singapore for a few week shift at OT, but that is it. During Songkran (April) the presence of WG is slightly reduce as they take the festivities to go and see families back home.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1358430]I don't think many thai (working) girls to Europe (if they know where Europe is) in any period of the year. You might have some girls temporarily moving to Singapore for a few week shift at OT, but that is it. During Songkran (April) the presence of WG is slightly reduce as they take the festivities to go and see families back home.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info! Sounds like Feb may be a good fit.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1345254]Sonic Bam,
Yep, things have changed here a lot, and for the time being.
Besides the renovation / upgrades of the rooms we are running a massive marketing campaign, are listed in several more internet booking sites already. And it's quite successful. We are nearly fully booked right now until Christmas, and the bookings for January to March are coming in already. Things are clearly turning around.
Or via our facebook page.
[URL]http://www.facebook.com/LivingstonesLodge[/URL]
If you like the facebook page. Appreciated, that helps us a lot. But remember, that is facebook, not the ISG. [b]No mongering activities shall ever be mentioned there.[/QUOTE]Got a question for you Giotto:
Now that you're running a massive marketing campaign OUTSIDE of ISG, does that mean that the "tone and atmosphere" of the lodge will also change?
I mean, Facebook and Agoda even? Does this mean that you are throwing in the towel and now going to concentrate more on the regular tourist traffic?
Just wondering.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Harry Dude; 1357155]Turnover in staff? Are Wan and Miao (?) there still?[/QUOTE]Harry,
Both still here.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe;1359302]I mean, Facebook and Agoda even?[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
We are working with AGODA since 2006. Nothing new. Has also no impact on what's going on here besides the normal hotel business.
But to a certain extend you are right. We have to adjust to changes happening right now here in Soi 33. You can get an idea about what's going on if you read Stickman's weekly:
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Livingstones-Bangkok.htm[/URL]
We completely renovated the Lodge, we upgraded all Deluxe and Executive rooms with LED flat screen TV's and DVD players. So we will be prepared for whatever happens here in the future. And even if the mongering activities in Soi 33 die down. We will still know where the action is, and we will still be able to give the necessary advice to ISG members.
Right now. Business as usual, fun in the bar.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=GreatScott; 1358320].
Just curious how things are that time of year as I am mostly used to tripping in South America (specifically Rio) and know there are certain times of the year the girls travel to Europe, etc.[/QUOTE]GreatScott,
February is the peak of the high season. Many people here in Bangkok, the bars full, a lot of demand for girls.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1359405]But to a certain extend you are right. We have to adjust to changes happening right now here in Soi 33. You can get an idea about what's going on if you read Stickman's weekly:
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Livingstones-Bangkok.htm[/URL][/QUOTE]"Tell me what it's like to run a business here where your staff are all Thai and your customers all foreigners. You're German, and I think it's fair to say that you're fairly typically German. And by that I mean you are straight and systematic and like to do things properly. You don't suffer fools. How does a straight, honest businessman deal with staff who have the reputation of perhaps not being quite so straight and, shall we say, not say hard-working or task-focused?
Do I have to answer this question?
Yes!"
Sorry, I have not mastered the multiple quotes in one post thing but, Giotto, this had me RATFLMAO. I just have this picture in my head of you and Stickman sitting across the table by the pool naving this conversation. Just because we've talked of this before.
[url]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/url][/quote]"why is it that whenever i visit you here, i don't see many people around? you have this fabulous property, the room prices are reasonable, you have all this space and up behind us there over the pool you have a view of the city's skyscrapers. you call this an oasis in the heart of bangkok and for once that description really is accurate. why don't i see people here? are you the german version of basil fawlty?
who's basil fawlty?
<i explain who he is.
most likely i am! <we laugh together."
stop it! seriously, this interview is brilliant purely because i know this is you repying to stickman.
will nic know who basil is? som = sybil? careful!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1359405]You can get an idea about what's going on if you read Stickman's weekly:
[URL]http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/StickmanWeeklyColumn2012/Livingstones-Bangkok.htm[/URL]
We completely renovated the Lodge, we upgraded all Deluxe and Executive rooms with LED flat screen TV's and DVD players. So we will be prepared for whatever happens here in the future. And even if the mongering activities in Soi 33 die down. We will still know where the action is, and we will still be able to give the necessary advice to ISG members.
Right now. Business as usual, fun in the bar.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]"Basically we have 5 key points that we think make us an attractive place to stay. The location is close to the skytrain and we are walking distance to Emporium shopping centre, the skytrain and nightlife areas.
Second, we are Western managed.
Third, we have an all day breakfast. When I was travelling a lot in Asia doing business, I was not happy that I had to be limited to eat breakfast by 10 AM. Why not midday? If it was a buffet, I could understand, but in small places, this was not right. Here, a customer can sleep until midday or even until the afternoon and we will still make you breakfast, all included in the price of the room.
Fourth, we have very reliable wi-fi throughout the premises, by the pool, in all rooms, restaurant, bar. Everywhere! The rooms also have hard-wired internet access too.
Finally, we have a lot of space for people to relax."
Okay, Giotto, fair enough, your interview with Stickman has given me the best laugh I have had for a long, long time. Not because it is spin or untrue but because it is the complete opposite, the complete truth, but in a mix of your own honesty and Stickman's humour. I say that because it is almost the exact words and conversations we have had in the recent past. I know these are your thoughts. I would like people to understand that what Stickman has published is your honest opinion of where Soi 33 is at and what the Lodge has to offer. I endorse your 5 key points above, they are not bullshit, they are what make the Lodge special. Just saying.
Hope every one at the Lodge has a happy and safe holiday.
May prosperity find you in the new year.
Slim
[QUOTE=Nvslim; 1364372]Hope every one at the Lodge has a happy and safe holiday.
May prosperity find you in the new year.
Slim[/QUOTE]New age Christmas tree? It looks like a dick with green cum squirting out of it.
Merry Christmas and mongerful 2013 to all!
[b]Happy New Year 2013 to all of you out there. [/b]
Health and all the best!
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
I spent a couple of weeks at Livingstone's recently, leaving New Year's Eve. Bad timing, yes, but it was either leave then or never leave again (admittedly, a fate to be cherished, not avoided).
In spite of himself, that cantankerous German has created a delightful establishment and I would have no qualms spending the rest of my living days in Rm 118 and be buried at sea in the pool.
I might see you again real soon, Giotto, maybe in a couple of weeks.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1337878]We are renovating. Attached some pictures.
Fans of the light wooden walls of the Superior Room area (101. 108) will be disappointed. The walls are exchanged by stone walls now, and will provide some better sound protection.[/QUOTE]I am devastated to hear this news. I recall an incident where I was able to corroborate a report by another ISG member as I'd aurally witnessed his activities from the neighboring room during the previous night.
Hey Giotto,
I am curious as to how all the new renovations now look.
Care to regale us with some updated pictures of the improvements?
Thanks,
SEAJ
[QUOTE=Gaienmae08;1374402]I am devastated to hear this news. I recall an incident where I was able to corroborate a report by another ISG member as I'd aurally witnessed his activities from the neighboring room during the previous night.[/QUOTE]Gaienmae08,
LOL!
Sadly: Game over! Solid soundproof walls now.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1374491]Hey Giotto,
I am curious as to how all the new renovations now look.
Care to regale us with some updated pictures of the improvements?
Thanks,
SEAJ[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Renovation finalized in November. Attached some pictures, renovated Superior Double Room, a new Executive Double Room.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
Swimming Pool after Renovation.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/url]
Stickman took some pictures of the Lodge, when he interviewed me. Good fun, BTW, and he is really a hell of a photographer.
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1375183]Stickman took some pictures of the Lodge, when he interviewed me. Good fun, BTW, and he is really a hell of a photographer.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Very nice.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1375177]SE Asia Joe,
Renovation finalized in November. Attached some pictures, renovated Superior Double Room, a new Executive Double Room.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks!
Nice! Still an oasis amongst all the hustle and bustle of the Big Mango!
And glad to see my favorite chairs and dim lighting still survives! LOL.
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1375218]And glad to see my favorite chairs and dim lighting still survives! LOL.[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
LOL, the chairs did not only survive, we ordered more of them to keep you happy!
And the reason for the dim lighting is to prevent our customers seeing the chairs :) ...
Giotto
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1375183]Stickman took some pictures of the Lodge, when he interviewed me. Good fun, BTW, and he is really a hell of a photographer.
Giotto.
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Hey Giotto,
The picks look great! Looking at the photos make me wish I was back at the Livingstone Lodge!
Thanks again for your hospitality back in September. 2012. It's been 5 months since my Bangkok visit. I still recommend Livingstone Lodge, especially for Bangkok rookies. Giotto will definitely take care of you in his little oasis hotel. Good Luck!
One of these days, I'm going to have to come check this place out and stay for 3-4 days. Although, I'm no longer a serious monger, I don't think my sexy Thai SO FOTC would like that.
But I could see us enjoying the super duper Executive room and lazing around the pool. After all, I can still look and dream! .
MadVic
I have been heart sick with my desire to return to BKK. Just booked a room for a week in October. This place is great.
All,
The Lodge closed today, the ground floor will be renovated. The renovation will last about 3 months.
Ohh, I forgot to mention ... a new owner took over, and he will change the concept a bit. But all of you should come here later this year, to check it out. It will be great.
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All,
The Lodge closed today, the ground floor will be renovated. The renovation will last about 3 months.
Ohh, I forgot to mention. A new owner took over, and he will change the concept a bit. But all of you should come here later this year, to check it out. It will be great.
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Sadly, one would assume this thread will be closing down now that you have sold your fine establishment?
Sad day for the newbie mongers. This was THE place to go for first time visitors as well as old-timers. Have many fond memories of Room 206, with the double jacuzzi and of course the infamous Sports Bar.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All,
The Lodge closed today, the ground floor will be renovated. The renovation will last about 3 months.
Ohh, I forgot to mention. A new owner took over, and he will change the concept a bit. But all of you should come here later this year, to check it out. It will be great.
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]This is indeed lousy news. At least it is for us who has a special place in our hearts for the Lodge.
The best of luck to you Herr Giotto. In whatever new endeavor you are now embarking upon.
And hopefully our paths would again cross in the future. Hope you still got my phone and other contact details.
SEAJ
This sounds like bad news as you've always seemed a good guy providing a personalized service not easily found in this day and age. You mention that it should be great following renovations which suggests that this ownership change is good for you as well and you're not unhappy with this or is this situation not entirely of your choosing?
I recall you also opened a restaurant near Silom. Will you continue with that or is that finished as well?
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All,
The Lodge closed today, the ground floor will be renovated. The renovation will last about 3 months.
Ohh, I forgot to mention. A new owner took over, and he will change the concept a bit. But all of you should come here later this year, to check it out. It will be great.
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]
Are they going to keep the same name?
Very sorry to hear the news Giotto, especially since I was planning to come over for a few days next month. Thanks though, for all of the hospitality and personalized service extended in the past. I wish you all the best in whatever path you choose to pursue.
GE
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1440937]Sad day for the newbie mongers. This was THE place to go for first time visitors as well as old-timers. Have many fond memories of Room 206, with the double jacuzzi and of course the infamous Sports Bar.[/QUOTE]T1234,
As everybody will have noticed I have reduced the activities on the ISG already years ago. Soi 33 was dying, an ongoing process for years now, and there was nothing we could do to run our concept successfully. Now. Soi 33 is definitely dead.
Room 206. The building with this room does not exist any more, for 3 years already. A bar (Moulin Rouge) was built next to our building. The outcome was that the floor was vibrating from too loud music coming from that bar. Nobody could sleep in those rooms any more.
That's only one of numerous set-backs we experienced since around 2009.
Giotto
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1440974]...
The best of luck to you Herr Giotto. In whatever new endeavor you are now embarking upon.
...
[/QUOTE]SEAJ,
Thanks!
BTW, I know that you are keen to get those "Naugahyde" chairs, but the new owner opted to keep them. He loves them :) .
Giotto
All the best, Giotto, for your new chapter of life!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All,
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Sad to see you go my friend, I have many fond memories and relationships from Livingstone Lodge.
Aloha my friend,
A former pool guy
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1441133]T1234,
As everybody will have noticed I have reduced the activities on the ISG already years ago. Soi 33 was dying, an ongoing process for years now, and there was nothing we could do to run our concept successfully. Now. Soi 33 is definitely dead.
Room 206. The building with this room does not exist any more, for 3 years already. A bar (Moulin Rouge) was built next to our building. The outcome was that the floor was vibrating from too loud music coming from that bar. Nobody could sleep in those rooms any more...[/QUOTE]All the best, you have been a great help to lot of people and I must say you ran the place on your principles.
Alles Gute und auf Wiedersehen
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]Congratulations and Good luck!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1441133]T1234,
As everybody will have noticed I have reduced the activities on the ISG already years ago. Soi 33 was dying, an ongoing process for years now, and there was nothing we could do to run our concept successfully. Now. Soi 33 is definitely dead.
Room 206. The building with this room does not exist any more, for 3 years already. A bar (Moulin Rouge) was built next to our building. The outcome was that the floor was vibrating from too loud music coming from that bar. Nobody could sleep in those rooms any more.
That's only one of numerous set-backs we experienced since around 2009.
Giotto[/QUOTE]I was visited the Lodge this past May for ten nights. You and the staff are to be commended for establishing a great boutique resort hotel in the middle of a major metropolis. With all the hotels in the city, yours was my first choice. I realize the the surrounding business is now on the down swing, but the location is superb. Close to everything. Please, thank the house staff. Always felt welcome. Good luck to everyone at the Livingstone's Lodge.
Thank You.
[QUOTE=Bionicman;1441206]All the best, Giotto, for your new chapter of life![/QUOTE]Bionicman,
Thanks, all the best to you, too.
I got a lot of mails / PMs yesterday. To answer one of the most asked questions:
I will stay in Bangkok, I bought a small condo here (258 sqm :) ) , and I build a "House on the River" in Ayutthaya (a bit bigger :) ). Life is really bad :) :) !
As for my professional career: I will not do anything for a year or so, just relax, finalize the renovation and construction, buy furniture and discover some good restaurants (never had really time for that). And - I will check out the high end discos, clubs and massage parlors - those places, where the beautiful Thai working girls have moved to. Then - in a year or two - this will get boring, and I will start something new. No idea what. But something will come up.
[b]To all who want to keep in contact with me:[/b]
PM me your name and E-Mail address. I will create a group of "Undisclosed Recipients" in Outlook, and send news from time to time, that we stay in contact. Then, whenever you come to Bangkok, you can send a mail to me and we can then meet up here somewhere for a coffee or a beer. I can then brief you about the changes that have taken place in the Bangkok Nightlife (... that I know about).
B-Man, don't forget Singapore. Once in my life I want to do that one ... :)
Giotto
There will only be one Giotto. Best of Luck.
Weird One
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1441588]And. I will check out the high end discos, clubs and massage parlors. Those places, where the beautiful Thai working girls have moved to. Then. In a year or two. This will get boring, and I will start something new. No idea what. But something will come up.
B-Man, don't forget Singapore. Once in my life I want to do that one. Giotto[/QUOTE]It looks we are loosing an hotel host but might re-gain forum member in full activity.
S'pore: give me notice in due time and I can arrange, but I need really early notice as it is in high demand (ah ah ah you guys stop wondering what this is all about. I AM NOT a pimp! LMAO)
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All,
The Lodge closed today, the ground floor will be renovated. The renovation will last about 3 months.
Ohh, I forgot to mention. A new owner took over, and he will change the concept a bit. But all of you should come here later this year, to check it out. It will be great.
Thanks for all your support over the last 9 years. It was great meeting you.
Giotto (retired since 01. 07. 2013)
[URL]http://www.livingstoneslodge.com[/URL][/QUOTE]All the best for you in your future endeavours Giotto. When last I stayed in LL it was indeed getting a bit quiet, but I was treated like a king (and not only by the girls in the Sports Lounge) and will fondly remember the few nights I was in your hotel.
[QUOTE=Rjsss212; 1440995]This sounds like bad news as you've always seemed a good guy providing a personalized service not easily found in this day and age. You mention that it should be great following renovations which suggests that this ownership change is good for you as well and you're not unhappy with this or is this situation not entirely of your choosing?
I recall you also opened a restaurant near Silom. Will you continue with that or is that finished as well?[/QUOTE]Rjsss212,
Thanks for your positive statement in regards of our service.
I am absolutely OK with what's happening now. After some successful years until around 2008 Livingstone's Lodge lost money. Too many problems: Thaksin, demonstrations, airport occupation, killing of 100 demonstrators, floods, financial crisis, European debt crisis etc. etc. etc.). The tourism in Bangkok has changed. Years ago 90 of 100 tourists were Caucasians, now 90 of 100 tourists are Asians.
The LL concept needs to be changed, and this is right now happening. Our concept died somehow a few years ago.
I personally needed to stop the financial bleeding. The losses of the Lodge started to eat up my retirement savings. LL was listed with Sunbelt Asia in October 2012 already. And we needed quite a time to find a buyer. But finally we found one. And a real good one. A man with ideas. A man who really has a vision. A man who can make it here. And he might change all the road.
I am here right now, and I support this guy in the transition period. He gets my full support with everything he needs, and step by step I teach him about the "nervous system" of this property. I will be here as long as he needs me, at least for the next two months. And afterwards I will still return from time to time, when you guys return to here.
As for the restaurant in Silom (Patpong) - that's Guido's (my ex-manager) restaurant. I helped him to start it up. But that was it for me. I definitely prefer to spend my time on the balcony of my condo high above Bangkok or at my house on the river in Ayutthaya. But not in Patpong. No way!
Guys, don't worry about me. I am fine, and I will be fine!
For those of you hormone- and animal-instincts driven mongers (should I say "motherfuckers"?) who know me and had contact to me I will still be here. Get listed in the Outlook contact group! To all others except "some": Good bye, have fun, all the Best! To Harold... and "some" others: You are still idiots! Nothing changed! Fuck you!
Giotto
[QUOTE=Mackin;1441058]Are they going to keep the same name?[/QUOTE]Mackin,
The hotel upstairs will keep the name LL.
The ground floor will operate with a different name.
Giotto
I hope you keep the thread open. Maybe we can post our 'funniest LL stories'!
[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1441677]It looks we are loosing an hotel host but might re-gain forum member in full activity.
S'pore: give me notice in due time and I can arrange, but I need really early notice as it is in high demand (ah ah ah you guys stop wondering what this is all about. I AM NOT a pimp! LMAO) [/QUOTE]Make sure to include me. I live there.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1441812]Mackin,
The hotel upstairs will keep the name LL.
The ground floor will operate with a different name.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Maybe too early to discuss, but what's going to be happening in the ground floor, apart operating with a different name than LL? Restaurant? Bar? Gogo bar, MP, lounge bar. Just thinking loud. Oh well. We'll see!
[QUOTE=Pita123;1441839]Make sure to include me. I live there.[/QUOTE]A ah ah ah ah. You do not even know what we are talking about and you want to be included? Hilarious!
Ok, I will reveal it. It is a gay party! Still want to be included? LOL! Kidding, of course, before somebody reports this to Jackson for a ban!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1441804]Guys, don't worry about me. I am fine, and I will be fine!
For those of you hormone- and animal-instincts driven mongers (should I say "motherfuckers"?) who know me and had contact to me I will still be here. Get listed in the Outlook contact group! To all others except "some": Good bye, have fun, all the Best! To Harold. And "some" others: You are still idiots! Nothing changed! Fuck you![/QUOTE]In reading your previous posts, it was obvious that this was going to happen. When you're bleeding money, only bad things can happen if you can't stop the hemorrhage. I'm glad to know that you have a lifeboat to carry you to safety.
My best wishes to you!
Looks like the worldwide recession took a big toll on Thailand's tourist industry.
Had a good time at LL. Sorry to see you go.
With so much competition from lots of available hotel rooms in BKK, perhaps employing touts at the airport, promising first drink, first fuck free may reel in business...
[QUOTE=GoodEnough; 1441119]Very sorry to hear the news Giotto, especially since I was planning to come over for a few days next month. Thanks though, for all of the hospitality and personalized service extended in the past. I wish you all the best in whatever path you choose to pursue.[/QUOTE]GoodEnough,
No reason to be sorry. And if you get over here let me know, that we can meet up somewhere.
As for my path in the future:
I was basically thinking about getting up whenever I like to, then making the difficult decision what kind of breakfast I prefer for the day. Afterwards checking the mails and the stock markets before moving to the swimming pool, sunshine, palm trees, Campari Orange. Later in the days some research activities about the local female service provider market will be performed, and the outcome of that determines further activities at night.
From time to time I will pop up in PI and have you show me around, but I also think about spending some time in places like Boracay (and some other PI islands) , Bali (and some other Indonesian Islands) , Samui and Phuket (and some other Thai islands). Once the beach and pool life becomes too boring I will spend some days in Singapore, Hongkong, Shanghai or Jakarta (KL will be left out).
As you can see life will be damned hard, but I am prepared for a long period of suffering :):):) .
Hope to see you soon!
Giotto
Sorry to hear about you leaving the lodge. I still have visiting BKK and the lodge on my bucket list. Maybe just stop by if I get there to see what I missed.
Good luck in your future and keep ISG in mind when you see or do something noteworthy.
All my best,
Slim
It is indeed sad to know that LL is closing down. I have been to Bangkok only twice, and both the times I had pleasure of staying at Livingstones' Lodge. My first visit was in May 2006 and second one recently in Sep 2012. In my last trip, I could notice the way things had gone down on Soi 33 as compared to 2006. Anyway, wish you all the best, Giotto, for all your future ventures. As far as I am concerned, I guess I will have to look for a new place to live during my next trip to Bangkok.
Giotto, I haven't had the opportunity to visit the Lodge for a couple of years, but I never doubted that I would return one day. It seems I need a new plan now.
Please keep us posted about your future plans (and about anything else that you regard as noteworthy). That is, if your new role as early retiree leaves you enough time to write!
All the best,
YY
I have visited Bangkok two times and my most enjoyable evenings were spent at LL's sport bar. Mr. Giotto were always friendly and I will miss him next time I come to Bangkok.
[QUOTE=Hp Xt; 1441274]Sad to see you go my friend, I have many fond memories and relationships from Livingstone Lodge.
Aloha my friend,
A former pool guy[/QUOTE]Pool Guy,
Aloha. I cannot believe it, after all this years you are suddenly back. How have you been, BESTARD?
Guys, I don't really go. I just retire and others will run the Lodge. Send me your mail address and names, and we will stay in contact.
Aloha, Pool Guy, thanks for being here with me, right when we started the Lodge as well as now when I leave.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1443169]Pool Guy,
Aloha. I cannot believe it, after all this years you are suddenly back. How have you been, BESTARD?
Giotto[/QUOTE]Question: So, who now is going to feed the ducks?
Suggestion: Best place a large chunk of the money received from the sale into a Singapore bank. Far away from the Thai stock market leaving enough to dabble with. Hate to hear that the vultures got a lot of it, the ladies are a different matter that is an investment into your mental and physical heath.
Enjoy your break.
E:
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1443169]Pool Guy,
Aloha, Pool Guy, thanks for being here with me, right when we started the Lodge as well as now when I leave.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Dr. G,
I am ok and happy to be part of the Livingstone's history, look forward to your new endeavors for we BKK newbies, ha ha ha.
PG
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1440811]All, The Lodge closed today, ...[/QUOTE]
All my best wishes to you Giotto,
Livingstone Lodge was the very first Hotel I stayed in on my first visit to Thailand in October of 2006. I learned about the Hotel from all the rave reviews right here on the ISG forum and was delighted to discover that your place lived up to all my expectations and more. Those are good memories of a great time I won't ever forget.
I had the pleasure of meeting you only twice and both times enjoyed your congenial hospitality and good conversation about places to go and things to do in Bangkok. Livingstone Lodge was an island of western style culture in a sea of Asian exotica and the feeling of welcome you provided your guests was very much appreciated.
Maybe I'm wrong but I can't help but think that things started going downhill with the Lodge when Jackson split you off from the main Thailand forum, giving you your own forum which was almost like the kiss of death. It was bad for the Lodge, bad for you and bad for all your followers on the main forum who enjoyed your many worthwhile contributions.
I sincerely hope that you will enjoy your well earned retirement to the fullest while you are still young enough to do so properly. I was fortunate enough to retire at the age of 49; discovered Thailand and Pattaya – the greatest sex paradise on the planet -- at the age of 60, and these have definitely been the happiest years of my life. Retirement for me is never boring.
I also hope that you will stay on the ISG main Thailand forum and keep contributing your entertaining posts as usual.
Best regards,
Daddy07
I stayed a couple of times, hoped to be back some day.
My life has turned out weirder than I ever imagined, and the Lodge has a starring role among the weirder moments.
All the best, Giotto!
[QUOTE=Wandere; 1441283]All the best, you have been a great help to lot of people and I must say you ran the place on your principles.
Alles Gute und auf Wiedersehen[/QUOTE]Wandere,
Thanks. Pleasure!
And correct, I am a bastard. I run things as I like it, and I don't give a shit what others think about it.
Nevertheless - I was not really successful with the Lodge. And the market has removed me, as it should be. So, basically everything is ok.
Today, btw., I went out at around 9 pm, Arab food in the Soi 3 area. Sat there for a while, had my tea, and headed then to Bangkok Beat in Soi 7/1. Good crowd, and some nice long legs, as I remember - and asses. Wow, not that bad at all.
Left there and walked up Soi 11. Busy. Many young people. More and more girls. The girly business will destroy that road sooner or later, too, as it happened in Soi 33. Was at Oskar's, a fantastic bar / restaurant 2 years ago, but I was not that impressed any more. The crowd has changed, semi-professionals got in, and that does not really fit into Oskar's concept.
Climax then. As expected, all left over mongers in a room with all left-over girls. Good fun! Good band, with the feeling for the crowd. The people were singing. Well done, band.
2 am - sitting at the road around Soi 17. A final pint of Singha and a Chicken Noodle Soup. Now - it's 5 am :) . Life is bad!
Freedom, here I come!
Giotto
Hallo Herr Giotto,
I don't visit ISG too often nowadays, so I initially missed the announcement of your 'retirement'.
I have been staying at LL every year from 2008-2012 for several weeks each time.
This year, a serious health problem made me regretfully cancel my reservation, but it looks as if I'll be able to make it again next January.
But it won't be the same LL!
However good the new owner will be, he cannot (and of course should not even try to) recreate the wonderfull LL atmosphere which so clearly bore your and Som's personal touch and made me feel so at home.
Thank you, Good Luck and enjoy your new life!
Daddy San
of LL. When the power failed and I had to find my way from my room to the staircase and down, in the blackest of darkness. And then candles leading to the Sports Bar full of lovely hostesses.
May your new life be a good one.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1441320]Congratulations and Good luck![/QUOTE]Pita123,
Thanks, man. Same to you, too.
Right now no retirement at all. I am on construction sites all the time, watching bathrooms to be tiled, floors to be finalized, doors to be installed, staircases to be built. And besides that I am running an IT project in Shanghai. Later this your I will most likely have to develop some Apps. I need to select the right development tool for that.
Anyway - hope to see you again one day.
Giotto
Mr Kurt Wagner,
Are we finally rid of your ass? Please tell me you will also surrender your account and no longer pollute this board with your Cornichon Stories. I for one am glad this place is finally closed. Now all we need is for you to admit to the mental hospital and there will be balance in the world again.
It's about time you left!
Giotto,
Just read the news!
I was on my way over there in 2 weeks!
Your place offered more than any other place in Bangkok!
Sorry to see you close.
Will miss times drinking beer at the pool telling lies.
Will miss the German food!
And of course the wonderful hostesses!
Good luck and stay in touch!
I enjoyed your stories of how Thais think and act in their daily lives.
Continue posting from where you will be.
Giotto,
Sorry to see you close and as a consequence end your business association with ISG.
You certainly added some colour to this forum and although I did not necessarily agree with everything which you wrote, you were always interesting and worth reading for that reason alone.
I never visited the Lodge but it was always something which I intended to do.
Unfortunately now no longer possible.
Best of luck.
[b]CD[/b]
[QUOTE=Capt Dan; 1454178]...I never visited the Lodge but it was always something which I intended to do...[/QUOTE]
You can only postpone intentions to the point when it is too late.
Giotto,
Have just seen the notice of your selling the lodge.
I was really saddened by the news. You're a legend in the Bangkok scene and will be sorely missed by many people.
Wishing you all the best in your future life, take care of yourself.
[QUOTE=Enigma9;1493423]Niccy, I always thought you and Giotto were having friendly banter, but knowing Giotto as I do, I think he would be highly insulted by your post. I never met you (as far as I know) but met Giotto many times, many emails and phone calls, and he never spoke badly about you. What's up mon ami?[/QUOTE]If you really know Giotto, then you would know he was absolutely not insulted by NF's post. It was done in jest!
[QUOTE=Enigma9; 1493423]].
I always thought you and Giotto were having friendly banter, but knowing Giotto as I do, I think he would be highly insulted by your post. I never met you (as far as I know) but met Giotto many times, many emails and phone calls, and he never spoke badly about you. What's up mon ami?[/QUOTE]Pipeman? Wow.
Enigma9,
Don't worry, NicFrenchy has completely lost it since a few months. Years ago he still was a fun guy, but now he is spending most of the time in fast food restaurants trying to break records in gaining weight. And this had a massive impact on his brain capacity (I know that something like a "fatty liver" exists, NF obviously suffers of a "fatty brain").
Just ignore this mental dwarf. It's just not worth it to even read his posts.
How is life, man?
Giotto
[QUOTE=Enigma9; 1493423]]Niccy,
I always thought you and Giotto were having friendly banter, but knowing Giotto as I do, I think he would be highly insulted by your post. I never met you (as far as I know) but met Giotto many times, many emails and phone calls, and he never spoke badly about you. What's up mon ami?
Ps. In Heart of Darkness / Apocalypse Now, it was Captain Kurtz, not Kurt. Your sly reference to Wagner would be insulting to many modern Germans such as Giotto.
BTW I personally know the ex-wife of the real "Kurtz" who the movie was based on (he is now an anti-war activist and his ex-wife runs a successful restaurant in Australia, and is very eccentric.
All good fun.
Cheers,
Piper[/QUOTE]Please don't talk to me about this half baked German of Austrian descent. Makes me sad that even after being left hanging out to dry and kicked out of his place he still somehow roams the upper sukumvit Area.
We really need to send this Giotto down where he belongs: Pattaya.
With the other Half Germans who think and dress like him, with flip flop and socks. How this man was able to be a senior here I don't know but the only thing senior about him is his old age.
RIP Giotto, let your thread die and move to Pattaya. Today.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1494939]Please don't talk to me about this half baked German of Austrian descent. Makes me sad that even after being left hanging out to dry and kicked out of his place he still somehow roams the upper sukumvit Area.
We really need to send this Giotto down where he belongs: Pattaya.
With the other Half Germans who think and dress like him, with flip flop and socks. How this man was able to be a senior here I don't know but the only thing senior about him is his old age.
RIP Giotto, let your thread die and move to Pattaya. Today.[/QUOTE]Enigma9,
As you see, there is nothing more to say. He is - done! But most likely not because of "fatty brain". It's a kind of brain dissolution, brain cells in nitro thinner. Something like that.
NF now resides in Pattaya. More or less he has moved into McDonalds, Beach Road. There are the few moments in his life that he does not eat, and he remembers that there was more in life. Then - he tries to get it up! But his 1. 2 mm erection is of course not discoverable.
NF is still proud to be a Senior at the ISG. He once told me that this was the biggest achievement of his life. I think this tells us everything we need to know about NF.
I wish him all the best.
Giotto
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1495010]Enigma9,
As you see, there is nothing more to say. He is. Done! But most likely not because of "fatty brain". It's a kind of brain dissolution, brain cells in nitro thinner. Something like that.
NF now resides in Pattaya. More or less he has moved into McDonalds, Beach Road. There are the few moments in his life that he does not eat, and he remembers that there was more in life. Then. He tries to get it up! But his 1. 2 mm erection is of course not discoverable.
NF is still proud to be a Senior at the ISG. He once told me that this was the biggest achievement of his life. I think this tells us everything we need to know about NF.
I wish him all the best.
Giotto[/QUOTE]Lord oh Lord, have you not reached Pattaya yet? Huh? Still polluting the upper Sukhumvit Area where some of us Rich and Famous chose to live, hoping not to have to bump into roaches like you?
Do everyone a favour, go home.
Look at you: [url]http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/681216-american-suspected-of-shoplifting-goats-cheese-from-north-pattaya-supermarket/?utm_source=newsletter-20131113-0815&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news[/url]
Pathetic that you have to hide the fact you are an Austrian, make yourself pass as an american.
Ok ok, I have got a few PMs about the last posts regarding Giotto.
Apparently I am being a dick. Well, ok, I'll say this: He deserves it 100 times! That brainless Austrian Farmer.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1497221]Ok ok, I have got a few PMs about the last posts regarding Giotto.
Apparently I am being a dick. Well, ok, I'll say this: He deserves it 100 times! That brainless Austrian Farmer.[/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,
Whilst there is no question that you [b]definitely are a dick[/b] ... what's about this obsession in regards of my nationality? German, Austrian or American? Who gives a shit?
What counts: I am [b]not French! [/b]
Now creep back to your bench at McDonalds and choke some burgers, then you at least shut up.
Giotto
Much as I enjoy re-fighting Agincourt and battles beyond over many centuries, 'tis time to stop pissing on each other and bring usup to date on the Lodge.
I stayed there 3-4 times over the last ten years, I took girls from the Sports Bar (ridiculous bar fine and one time the girl refused to kiss claiming mouth ulcers). Another lady I never bar-fined but had dinner around the pool with her many nights and enjoyed her company. Had I not had to leave early I was planning to take her to Koh Samui, fuck untested, because she was just 'nice. '
So stop f*cking about and up-date us on the Lodge.
[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1497255].
So stop f*cking about and up-date us on the Lodge.[/QUOTE]What Lodge?
Giotto
PS: [b]He is a dick! [/b]
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1497585]What Lodge?
Giotto.
PS: [b]He is a dick! [/b][/QUOTE]Ask a sensible question, vide the thread heading and you get a nonsensical answer.
Perhaps someone who has not been obviously on the hard stuff can provide a sensible answer.
[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1497614].
Perhaps someone who has not been obviously on the hard stuff can provide a sensible answer.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah,
Someone. Please!
Giotto
PS: Dick counter is rising.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1497630]Oh yeah,
Someone. Please!
Giotto.
PS: Dick counter is rising.[/QUOTE]Some complete *rs*h*l* has taken over what was once a useful site.
I had hoped for up-dates on Livingstone Lodge. All I have got is crap from an idiot away with the yaba varies or local whiskey.
Thanks but I will move on and see if there is intelligent life on another thread.
[QUOTE=Traveler1234;1493655]If you really know Giotto, then you would know he was absolutely not insulted by NF's post. It was done in jest![/QUOTE]Absolutely! Despite his many flaws and birth defects, Giotto is all in all a nice Bloke. Shame he left us and went on to open the LIVINGSTONE LODGE PATTAYA
[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1497671]Some complete *rs*h*l* has taken over what was once a useful site.
I had hoped for up-dates on Livingstone Lodge. All I have got is crap from an idiot away with the yaba varies or local whiskey.
Thanks but I will move on and see if there is intelligent life on another thread.[/QUOTE]Scorchin,
It's still the exactly same Giotto writing here, without yaba or whiskey influence (that's NicFrenchy, burger (and who knows what else) addiction!). I apologize for not keeping up with your intelligence, but sadly I never could.
I always thought that this is a fun website, and finding women for sex is not a dead-serious business, but obviously I am wrong. Nevertheless - you should also try to develop some humor, quite useful once in a while.
All you need to know is written below. The Lodge as you know it does not exist any more. What else do you want to know?
[b]The[/b] Complete *rs*h*l* Giotto
PS: NicFrenchy is a dick. No question at all.
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1497792]Scorchin,
You should also try to develop some humor, quite useful once in a while.[/QUOTE]It is just not very good at dealing with you ridiculous remarks and those of your so allied inter locuters- maybe other Europeans will understand.
I away from here for really amusing exchange of views and to find reliable pussy. More than this crap thread can help with.
[QUOTE=Scorchin; 1497795]It is just not very good at dealing with you ridiculous remarks and those of your so allied inter locuters- maybe other Europeans will understand.
I away from here for really amusing exchange of views and to find reliable pussy. More than this crap thread can help with.[/QUOTE]Actually Giotto was right not to answer, especially if you can't even take 2 minutes to read back 1 or 2 pages. All the answers to your questions were already answered.
If you want fresh pussy I suggest you move to a more appropriate Thread, we all know there was never anything fresh about the Lodge!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1498171]...
If you want fresh pussy I suggest you move to a more appropriate Thread, we all know there was never anything fresh about the Lodge![/QUOTE]NicFrenchy,
Good one :) !
Giotto
PS: You definitely are a dick!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy; 1498171]...
All the answers to your questions were already answered.[/QUOTE]
PS II: Please allow me one answer: How do I answer an answer to a question that was already answered :):):) ?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1498171]If you want fresh pussy I suggest you move to a more appropriate Thread, we all know there was never anything fresh about the Lodge![/QUOTE]You seemed to enjoy the sausage.
[QUOTE=Pita123;1498442]You seemed to enjoy the sausage.[/QUOTE]Pita123,
You are right, he loved the sausages. He came again and again, only for our "different types" of sausages (the roll, Auntie's etc.).
Giotto
PS: He is a gay dick!
[QUOTE=Giotto; 1498463]Pita123,
You are right, he loved the sausages. He [b]came[/b] Again and again, only for our "different types" of sausages (the roll, Auntie's etc.).
Giotto.
PS: He is a gay dick![/QUOTE]I "Came"? Now how would you know that?
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy;1499425]I "Came"? Now how would you know that?[/QUOTE]Tracked by the forensic through the DNA evidences
Was trying to book a room in Bangkok and ran across the following.
Sad, truly sad.
The only redeeming factor is that prices are now really cheap at $42.19 / night.
And apparently, downstairs LL is now all light and swish and Mediterranean (?).
Glad to see though, that the upstairs hotel rooms are still all the same. Dark, wonky, schlocky and with the award winning 100% leather-Naugahyde chairs still in its pride of place!
[QUOTE]Suchi A. Couples United Kingdom, April 25, 2014
Extremely poor. Ruined our stay in Bangkok.
Close to BTS station.
2. 7.
Don't be fooled by the nice pictures, this hotel does not service like a proper hotel and completely ruined our stay. The owners of this hotel are not treating it like one and we faces countless issues during our stay, On our first day we were given about three keys that didn't work, until the staff finally went up themselves to sort it out. The shower drain was blocked causing the bathroom floor to flood and the tv wasn't working. They never seemed to serve food, I asked for breakfast and the kitchen was closed for some reason. We changed rooms and this time the air con wouldn't cool down the room properly. We kept complaining and they told us it the air con just takes time. An hour later, the air con still wasn't doing its job. The bathroom was also missing a shower rail and the shower drain was filled with hair from the previous guests. After enough nagging we were upgraded to deluxe. The room seemed fine at first, but again the air con wouldn't go below 28 degrees which caused sleeping difficulties. The jacuzzi was dirty and moldy and the boiler kept leaking and spraying whenever the shower was on. We returned one night with a strange sewage smell in our bathroom. By this time we've had enough and had unfortunately had to lash out at the staff. This completely ruined our stay...[/QUOTE]Hmmmmm, wonder where I'll stay at in Bangkok now?
SEAJ
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1561396]Was trying to book a room in Bangkok and ran across the following.
Sad, truly sad.
The only redeeming factor is that prices are now really cheap at $42. 19 / night.
And apparently, downstairs LL is now all light and swish and Mediterranean (?).
Glad to see though, that the upstairs hotel rooms are still all the same. Dark, wonky, schlocky and with the award winning 100% leather-Naugahyde chairs still in its pride of place!
Hmmmmm, wonder where I'll stay at in Bangkok now?
SEAJ[/QUOTE]SE Asia Joe,
Don't know what to say.
Some of our old customers stay at S33 and found it ok (though no pool and low quality breakfast). Bless residence is another option, if you want to be close to Soi 33. But. Much more expensive, and not "dark, wonky, schlocky".
Holiday Inn on the corner to Soi 22 or S31 on the corner to Soi 31 could be options.
Nevertheless - none of this hotels provide teak wood leather chairs of the quality levels we had at Livingstone's :) . You better stay home enjoying yours ...
Giotto
Hi, I know this is a bit off topic but can you recommend a good dentist in Thailand?
Thanks.
Years back one of my crowns popped on flight from HK / BKK. I dropped into Bumingrad Hospital. They have a excellent dental facility, many expats in waiting room, and they took good care of me.
[QUOTE=Horatio;1583829]Hi, I know this is a bit off topic but can you recommend a good dentist in Thailand?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Dental White Clinic, Soi 22.
Giotto
Last post in June this year?
Good to have a couple of beers and chew the fat with you and Mrs G over the last couple of nights! Cheers, fella!
A fond remembrance when Herr Giotto ran Soi 33.
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