General Info

Drugs here are decriminalized but not fully legalized. Posession of up to a certain amount on the street is legal. They can't come into your place and bust you without a warrant obtained by probable cause that you are dealing. But you also can't just smoke a joint on the street and blow it in a cops place. Consuming in a public places is still illegal, and it's a more serious charge if there are minors in view. If they catch people 420ing in a bar, they will permanently shut the bar down. There are of course places where LEO doesn't go.

The banking system here is completely different than the US. It can be hard or impossible to even open a bank account, depending on which bank you deal with. Colombian credit cards don't work at all like US ones. They aren't revolving credit, you have to pay them back on stricter terms. Interest rates are higher, both for taking out loans and for getting interest on your accounts, but they are plummeting just like everywhere else in the world. A lot of things like bankruptcy rules are very different too. A business that has debts equal to more than 50% of its assets can be considered legally bankrupt here. And developers have to have 70% of units sold before they can break ground on a new project, which is why pre-construction apartments are such good deals here.

[QUOTE=Bologna;1530385]you don't have to be a master, just depends on what your goals are.[/QUOTE]Hi Bologna, thanks for the tips. I am trying to learn some Spanish for my first trip to Dominican Republic next January. I'll order Madrigal's book from amazon. Com and already delved into Spanish for Dummies. I've also joined dominicancupid. Com and have gotten some "hits" from some busty beauties there who only speak Spanish so that is my motivation: to able to converse with some Dominican beauties who I hope to bang when I am there.

[QUOTE=Bologna; 1530458]So Socker PM's me this.

Socker, your post wasn't there as I was writing mine up and it's straight out of my head, not your post. We were writing ours up at the same time but you posted yours first. I did read yours though and it seems like we have similar paths in learning, which in my mind means it's probably good advice.

So, Socker, maybe you can not insult people who are lending something positive to the board.[/QUOTE]

Baloney,


Because you don't seem to have any original thoughts you should stick w / very infrequent posting. Your post mirrors my post almost verbatim so what am I suppose to think except that you are rewriting my thoughts on the subject, like a freaking schoolmarm who needs to correct others and has zero character. At first I thought you were just a schoolmarm (maybe well intended) but now I think you're a loser. You're a wuss that could not reply via pm about your

Plagerism. You think exposing my sarcastic pm will garner you credit. Bro, that's exactly what you need is credit or credibility.

You could of PMed me but you're a misguided wuss. That's my opinion and you can rewrite it if you like.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1530772]Baloney,

Because you don't seem to have any original thoughts you should stick w / very infrequent posting. Your post mirrors my post almost verbatim so what am I suppose to think except that you are rewriting my thoughts on the subject, like a freaking schoolmarm who needs to correct others and has zero character. At first I thought you were just a schoolmarm (maybe well intended) but now I think you're a loser. You're a wuss that could not reply via pm about your

Plagerism. You think exposing my sarcastic pm will garner you credit. Bro, that's exactly what you need is credit or credibility.

You could of PMed me but you're a misguided wuss. That's my opinion and you can rewrite it if you like.[/QUOTE]Amigos, please, sounds like a Kindergarten class.

We've all had similar experiences in learning the language, and unique experiences and perspectives as well.

Really.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1530772]Baloney,

Because you don't seem to have any original thoughts you should stick w / very infrequent posting. Your post mirrors my post almost verbatim so what am I suppose to think except that you are rewriting my thoughts on the subject, like a freaking schoolmarm who needs to correct others and has zero character. At first I thought you were just a schoolmarm (maybe well intended) but now I think you're a loser. You're a wuss that could not reply via pm about your

Plagerism. You think exposing my sarcastic pm will garner you credit. Bro, that's exactly what you need is credit or credibility.

You could of PMed me but you're a misguided wuss. That's my opinion and you can rewrite it if you like.[/QUOTE]Lighten up man, it's posts / insults like that, that discourage people to stick around this forum. Just ignore my posts then amigo.

Ricker, Baloney, MiamiSammy, and Socker, thanks to each of you for taking the time to give me some great advice. Baloney's comprehensive writing was especially helpful, and reading Socker's personal experiences in his improvement of his Spanish was insightful because I've had some of the same feelings, although my Spanish skills are not nearly as good as any of you guys.

What I understood loud and clear was that I can't continue to be so lazy and undisciplined when it comes to learning Spanish. Reading about all of the effort and devotion to learning the language that were written makes me feel like such a loser. I've ordered a good Spanish-English language and have a kindle version of Madrigal's book and I'm going to "just do it." Besides the obvious benefits, it will be good exercise for the mind.

Again, thank you. Man, I was just feeling a lot of good energy, jajajaja

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1530958]Ricker, Baloney, MiamiSammy, and Socker, thanks to each of you for taking the time to give me some great advice. Baloney's comprehensive writing was especially helpful, and reading Socker's personal experiences in his improvement of his Spanish was insightful because I've had some of the same feelings, although my Spanish skills are not nearly as good as any of you guys.

What I understood loud and clear was that I can't continue to be so lazy and undisciplined when it comes to learning Spanish. Reading about all of the effort and devotion to learning the language that were written makes me feel like such a loser. I've ordered a good Spanish-English language and have a kindle version of Madrigal's book and I'm going to "just do it." Besides the obvious benefits, it will be good exercise for the mind.

Again, thank you. Man, I was just feeling a lot of good energy, jajajaja[/QUOTE]Once you get started, make sure and find a conversation group. They're easy to find in any town in the US, especially college towns and are the best way to improve your skills. Look in the paper or just call the Spanish department at your local community college. They're generally free and often there are several different times every week, depending on the size of your town. It's basically casual and formal Spanish students sitting in a group and just talking in spanish. You've always got better speakers to help you improve, and they can also help you on the little subtleties that help make you a more natural speaker. The real key is that learning a language is like exercising- as long as you keep pumping iron your guns will grow. When you hang back, U-turn back into a 98# weakling. When you're a 98# weakling, the other guy gets the girl. Don't let the other guy get the girl. Learn you some serious Spanish, dude.

[QUOTE=Legal Tender; 1530958]Ricker, Baloney, MiamiSammy, and Socker, thanks to each of you for taking the time to give me some great advice. Baloney's comprehensive writing was especially helpful, and reading Socker's personal experiences in his improvement of his Spanish was insightful because I've had some of the same feelings, although my Spanish skills are not nearly as good as any of you guys.

What I understood loud and clear was that I can't continue to be so lazy and undisciplined when it comes to learning Spanish. Reading about all of the effort and devotion to learning the language that were written makes me feel like such a loser. I've ordered a good Spanish-English language and have a kindle version of Madrigal's book and I'm going to "just do it." Besides the obvious benefits, it will be good exercise for the mind.

Again, thank you. Man, I was just feeling a lot of good energy, jajajaja[/QUOTE]

Most here have a clue, some do not.

Thanks Legal Tender for having more then a clue. Good luck w/ the spanish.

Looks like this now.

Can't really RTFF anymore.

Forget about actually finding a TR.

Jaja,

[QUOTE=Socker; 1533350]Looks like this now.

Can't really RTFF anymore.

Forget about actually finding a TR.

Jaja, [/QUOTE]I agree. I recommend a thread clean up.

Conversation groups are a great place to meet the chicas, too.

Yo!

Is there a driver or guide topic? I thought there was one but did a quick scroll down and did not see it. Please feel move this to the right topic if possible.

Anyway my Buddy is a taxista. Good dude, honest, good peoples, as dependable as a Paisa can be, and want's to offer up his services. He has the hook up with like 10-15 girls he can introduce you to, the hook up for all sorts of party favors, and knows the lay of the land so casa trips are not a problem.

He asked me about rates. So let me ask you guys. How is this done usually? Is there a flat rate? Daily hire? I'm just trying to help him out with some clients on the slow days and stuff.

If you want his contact info LMK and I'll speak up for dude as being reliable and trust worthy.

Limited English but he has an app you can talk right into and it spits out the phrase in the correct language.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1534233]Yo!

Is there a driver or guide topic? I thought there was one but did a quick scroll down and did not see it. Please feel move this to the right topic if possible.

Anyway my Buddy is a taxista. Good dude, honest, good peoples, as dependable as a Paisa can be, and want's to offer up his services. He has the hook up with like 10-15 girls he can introduce you to, the hook up for all sorts of party favors, and knows the lay of the land so casa trips are not a problem.

He asked me about rates. So let me ask you guys. How is this done usually? Is there a flat rate? Daily hire? I'm just trying to help him out with some clients on the slow days and stuff.

If you want his contact info LMK and I'll speak up for dude as being reliable and trust worthy.

Limited English but he has an app you can talk right into and it spits out the phrase in the correct language.[/QUOTE]I think I was qouted 35, 000 per hour by Hector last month. You can probably get a better hourly rate for a full day of their services.

There are a ton on the word / pdf in the Medellin list. Same list as the casas strip joints in the bottom.

[QUOTE=Socker;1534407]I think I was qouted 35, 000 per hour by Hector last month. You can probably get a better hourly rate for a full day of their services.[/QUOTE]

These are from My List.

Sorry they so old.

It would be nice if someone would call them and let us know if they are still willing to be a guide.

[b]DRIVERS OR CHICA GUIDES[/b]

1. Juan Carlos speaks good English and is cool and is honest and doesn't gouge the gringo. He'll take you on "special trips" or help you find casas, chicas. Etc. Rates: 25k hour. 60k airport pickup. Tel: 311-303-8435, 313-732-6366.

2. Bucky. Tel: 311 745 2192, 312 6409. Speaks English.

3. Jaime Mira Estrada. Tel: 314 870 6228, (57) 317-793-5404. jaime-medellintaxi@hotmail.com [url]http://www.medellintaxi.com/[/url]

4. William. He lived in the USA for 5 years so he speaks perfect English. Rates: 22k Hour. 3 hours or more 20k per hour. Cell: (573) 300-677-8058. willisbestsupport@gmail.com [url]www.willisbestguidemedellin.com[/url]

5. Jimmy, he speaks English. Cell: 314 870 62 28.

6. Robert makes sure you have a good time and you enjoy the stay. Feel free to call his USA landline 954-530-9981 or cell 300 242 19 33.

7. Dino Speaks Spanish only. Cells are: 300 610 7211 or 315 315 5010, Home 371 7683.

8. Cesar's cell number from USA is 011-57-315-514-3390. From Medellin you just call the last 10 numbers: 315-514-3390. Cesar does not speak much English.

9. Gustavo has lived in the USA, speaks very good English, understands and can relate to your needs.

You can contact Gustavo directly, cellular in Medellin 311-388-3861.

10. Hector, speaks good English. Tel: 315 661 4187, 300 786 1119.

11. Fernando, no English but knows everything in Medellin. Tel: 300-475-2504. His Cells: from the USA 01157-310-826-7678, 313-618-8670.

12. Nick, speaks English. Tel: 300 780 7504.

13. Robinson, speaks English. Tel: 300 386 0760, 311 307 8913.

14. Andrea, she speaks English and has no car. Tel: 311 387 0007.

15. Linton, cell is 311-714-9712. He doesn't speak English but he knows where the street girls are. And he charged what was on the meter. Highly Recommended!

16. John Jairo, This guy was really good about taking us on a tour of the SG's and Chica clubs. Tel: (310) 518-3818.

17. Alvero, speaks English. Cell number from Medellin: 316-252-2882. From the USA: 011-57-316-252-2882.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1534233]Yo!

Is there a driver or guide topic? I thought there was one but did a quick scroll down and did not see it. Please feel move this to the right topic if possible.

Anyway my Buddy is a taxista. Good dude, honest, good peoples, as dependable as a Paisa can be, and want's to offer up his services. He has the hook up with like 10-15 girls he can introduce you to, the hook up for all sorts of party favors, and knows the lay of the land so casa trips are not a problem.

He asked me about rates. So let me ask you guys. How is this done usually? Is there a flat rate? Daily hire? I'm just trying to help him out with some clients on the slow days and stuff.

If you want his contact info LMK and I'll speak up for dude as being reliable and trust worthy.

Limited English but he has an app you can talk right into and it spits out the phrase in the correct language.[/QUOTE]

He was my driver from the airport. Cool guy speaks english and is very professional. He knows all the houses and joints. Tell him your budget 50-200k and hell take you somewhere.

[QUOTE=World Travel 69; 1534548]These are from My List.

Sorry they so old.

It would be nice if someone would call them and let us know if they are still willing to be a guide.

4. William. He lived in the USA for 5 years so he speaks perfect English. Rates: 22k Hour. 3 hours or more 20k per hour. Cell: (573) 300-677-8058. willisbestsupport@gmail.com

[url]www.willisbestguidemedellin.com[/url][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1535179]I challenge that this forum is for sex in Medellin only. Certainly that's the primary function, but the auxillary information about places to stay as well as what to eat and what not to eat is all part of the deal. No, I don't want this to turn into the Food Network, but I appreciate the additional information in one place, rather than trying to glean little bits and pieces from all over. For those of you who support more relaxed parameters of discussion, thank you. For those purists who don't eat and sleep on park benches, I'm in awe.[/QUOTE]If you want a dysfunctional Medellin Forum then continue w / the mish mash that has been going on there for several months. It's not about anyone's personal preference it's about functional or disfunctional. My guess is that actual "on the ground" information is less then 5% of the Medellin Forum content. The "who, where, and how much" is about 5%, the other 95% is general information. So if this is what the guys here want then so be it. The dysfunction of the forum will not hamper me that much, it is embarrassing for some reason, I guess because I have respect for the guys on the forum. But why do they keep throwing empty pizza boxes on the floor to the point the forum is unusable? It makes no sense.

Page after page of telephone info, restaurant info, Wendy in Miami, drug enforcement, immigration policy, hotels, learning espanol and much much more extraneous issues that have no connection w / the,"who, where, and how much" in the Medellin mongering scene. Like I said in another post regarding newbies getting info on their own, RTFF is not a practical quick learning tool, or a way anyone can get to info such as "who, where, and how much.

This is my opinion, all the extraneous issues fall under General Information. The simple fix here is general information belongs in the forum, General Information. (I know, I'm a genius)

If guys have the where w / all to post in more specific forums I / e hotel, food, political, living in, then by all means post away. But the simple easy fix is throw everything in General Information.

As it is now, the Medellin Forum is a joke, a well intentioned dumping ground of international topics. If that's what's best for Medellin mongers well then carry on bros.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1535297]If you want a dysfunctional Medellin Forum then continue w / the mish mash that has been going on there for several months. It's not about anyone's personal preference it's about functional or disfunctional. My guess is that actual "on the ground" information is less then 5% of the Medellin Forum content. The "who, where, and how much" is about 5, the other 95% is general information. So if this is what the guys here want then so be it. The dysfunction of the forum will not hamper me that much, it is embarrassing for some reason, I guess because I have respect for the guys on the forum. But why do they keep throwing empty pizza boxes on the floor to the point the forum is unusable? It makes no sense.

Page after page of telephone info, restaurant info, Wendy in Miami, drug enforcement, immigration policy, hotels, learning espanol and much much more extraneous issues that have no connection w / the,"who, where, and how much" in the Medellin mongering scene. Like I said in another post regarding newbies getting info on their own, RTFF is not a practical quick learning tool, or a way anyone can get to info such as "who, where, and how much.

This is my opinion, all the extraneous issues fall under General Information. The simple fix here is general information belongs in the forum, General Information. (I know, I'm a genius)

If guys have the where w / all to post in more specific forums I / e hotel, food, political, living in, then by all means post away. But the simple easy fix is throw everything in General Information.

As it is now, the Medellin Forum is a joke, a well intentioned dumping ground of international topics. If that's what's best for Medellin mongers well then carry on bros. [/QUOTE]Duly noted. I'd suggest that the "General" heading as it's currently designed is for General information about Colombia. Maybe Medellin needs to have a sub-category of "Medellin: General Info" to avoid confusing you. I get the whole functional / dysfunctional thing, but you lost me with the pizza boxes.

More general info.

If it pertains to Medellin pussy directly then it should be in the Medellin Forum.

That means most info about the Hotel Medellin Plaza, that means all mongering clubs I / e Liquid Strip, or non pro clubs where guys want to get lucky, everything that has to do directly w / getting Medellin pussy should be on the Medellin Forum.

General gossip (Wendy in Miami) , great restaurants, good / bad doctors, hotel prices and GF policies, safety issues, drug issues, are all not directly connected to Medellin pussy hence should be in General Information.

I'm sure there's more ways to clean the place up and make it more usable for the new or veteran guys that come in but that's all I can think of now.

For the Medellin Forum to improve it doesn't have to become perfect but it will need guys to stay on topic and police themselves from time to time.

Okay, other fish to fry.

[QUOTE=Socker; 1535333]More general info.

If it pertains to Medellin pussy directly then it should be in the Medellin Forum.

That means most info about the Hotel Medellin Plaza, that means all mongering clubs I / e Liquid Strip, or non pro clubs where guys want to get lucky, everything that has to do directly w / getting Medellin pussy should be on the Medellin Forum.

General gossip (Wendy in Miami) , great restaurants, good / bad doctors, hotel prices and GF policies, safety issues, drug issues, are all not directly connected to Medellin pussy hence should be in General Information.

I'm sure there's more ways to clean the place up and make it more usable for the new or veteran guys that come in but that's all I can think of now.

For the Medellin Forum to improve it doesn't have to become perfect but it will need guys to stay on topic and police themselves from time to time.

Okay, other fish to fry.[/QUOTE]Well, it's nice to be set straight and have my priorities properly aligned. Maybe Jackson could post these guidelines somewhere if they are in fact the official protocol. If not, I'll just file this under my "opinions are likeat$$holes, everyone has them" file.

Rock on.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1535442]Well, it's nice to be set straight and have my priorities properly aligned. Maybe Jackson could post these guidelines somewhere if they are in fact the official protocol. If not, I'll just file this under my "opinions are likeat$$holes, everyone has them" file.

Rock on.[/QUOTE]Absolutely file it there. It's wishful thinking on my part that life HERE could be easy and sensable.

Cheers Miami

Oh...pizza boxes on top of pizza boxes = useless info piled layer after layer until the space is unusable.

I bounce between the Medellin, Jakarta and AC forums. One out of these 3 forums has mostly general information, while the other 2, Jakarta and AC have relevant current pussy hunting info about that particular town. The Jakarta thread just says,"Jakarta" and yet the guys there stay very close to,"who, where, and how much". Here in the Colombian Forum the Med thread says distinctly, Medellin Reports". Now for me that means trip reports, it's not vague, Medellin Reports, it's very clear. Some might think it should read,"Medellin Specifics" but it doesn't. It reads, Medellin Reports but what is plain and simple to some is convoluted to others. Why? Only nature has the answer. A portion of the Colombian mongers do not care about site integrity or ease of use, they only about who wins the debate.

My reason for throwing away valuable time on this is to make it easy to find the important details. For me the important details are, who, where, and how much. That is Jackson's intent on every forum and by filling the main thread in a forum w / extraneous gossip and back and forth back slapping page after page is not quality. A few here will defend it. Why? Because it's easier to be lazy on the front end and just post everything in one thread. The one thread that is being wrecked is the most popular thread by 100%. The Medellin thread has 14, 000 reports, next highest is Cartagena w / 6, 000.

I also think this discussion is a good thing (not necessary in other forums tho) because both sides of the issue have valid points. My firm belief is that the Medellin Reports should be less convoluted.

How to do this in a practical manner? Every post should start out about the, who, where, and how much. Anything that is directly related to that and comes up in a TR belongs on the Medellin Reports forum. What does not belong are post that have no, who, where, and how much. So if Gungadong is in El Centro checking and partaking at the casas and he finds a gem of a restaurant and it is included in his TR it belongs in the Medellin Forum. If Gungadong makes a post asking where are the good restaurants in El Centro then that is complete Bullshit.

It's that simple.

The best argument against fixing the Medellin Reports forum is that who wants to put every different topic in the right container. I agree w / this, it is a pain in the ass to post in all these different forums but if and when one can that's what they should do. It's that simple. I will try and do this as well.

My method though is using General Information because it is easy and a fun read once inside. So what's a better system? Throw very bit of info in the Medellin Reports along w / gratuitous heaps of back slapping? Or cleaning it up a bit and posting general info (all of the above) in General Information. Posting, who, where, and how much in the Medellin Reports. There will always be additional info attached to the,"who where, and how much" because it's part of the meat of the issue. The meat belongs in Medellin Reports as it is w / most other forums where quality info is exchanged by guys who want to help each other live it up.

Like Jonsie said, there is no perfect solution. Rational thought will hopefully win the day. It's a no brainer, the Medellin Reports should stick to the subject matter. Who, where, and how much is the pussy.

Good Luck...

[QUOTE=Socker; 1536224]I bounce between the Medellin, Jakarta and AC forums. One out of these 3 forums has mostly general information, while the other 2, Jakarta and AC have relevant current pussy hunting info about that particular town. The Jakarta thread just says,"Jakarta" and yet the guys there stay very close to,"who, where, and how much". Here in the Colombian Forum the Med thread says distinctly, Medellin Reports". Now for me that means trip reports, it's not vague, Medellin Reports, it's very clear. Some might think it should read,"Medellin Specifics" but it doesn't. It reads, Medellin Reports but what is plain and simple to some is convoluted to others. Why? Only nature has the answer. A portion of the Colombian mongers do not care about site integrity or ease of use, they only about who wins the debate.

My reason for throwing away valuable time on this is to make it easy to find the important details. For me the important details are, who, where, and how much. That is Jackson's intent on every forum and by filling the main thread in a forum w / extraneous gossip and back and forth back slapping page after page is not quality. A few here will defend it...[/QUOTE]The problem seems to be that nobody really seems to care quite as much as you do. Give it a rest.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1536320]The problem seems to be that nobody really seems to care quite as much as you do. Give it a rest.[/QUOTE]It's actually comical, a debate on where to place your reports, ideas, opinions, etc within the forum.

Ideally, Socker is obviously right. Posting in the various sections, like Hotels, Food, etc would be great. Would keep information, reports, etc organized.

At times guys do make their posts in the corresponding sections, however, as we know, the main Medellin forum does go off on it's tangents LOL.

I don't think it's anything to get upset about or rave about really.

When things start to go off tangent, anyone can post that they're moving their reply to the appropriate section and Viola (wala) , the conversation usually moves.

The newbies, just like the vets did when new, have to weed through and find what they want, and then again, the Medellin Lists section usually stays fairly relevant, and that's what'll get ya going in the right direction.

Have fun amigos!

Hey guy's,

New to this site have a trip planned for BOG in mid April. Anybody know of a good place to catch a flight from BOG to MDE?

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1536320]The problem seems to be that nobody really seems to care quite as much as you do. Give it a rest.[/QUOTE]But it is extremely hard to do. Mammy you can stick "give it a rest" up your butt. I don't need your condescension or your 2nd smart ass comment about my legitimate complaint.

I just read all of your 29 post and guess what? You are the guy filling the Medellin Report forum full of boring crap about nothing. You are constantly brown nosing, asking for help, giving your fatherly advice, and telling people to "give it a rest" when in reality you have contributed ZERO to this forum. ZERO!

This is the most entertaining post of your impressive 29. Dated 2/09/14. THIS IS WHAT YOU GOT!

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Long time monger, first time in Colombia.

I'll be enjoying the sights for the first time in Medellin / Bogota for the last few days of Feb, first few of March. I've got good Spanish, know the customs and history pretty well and would like to trade off wingman duties or add on to an existing party. PM or reply- if nothing else lets share a beer and compare notes once we get down there.

Miami Sammy.

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Greetings,

It appears from your post that you don't quite understand the Forum's Private Message service.

To use the Forum's Private Message service, both you and the Forum Member you are trying to contact must be either a subscriber or a Senior Member.

For more information, please read:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-subscriptions.php?[/url]

If you cannot afford $20 dollars to buy a subscription, then perhaps you can convince another forum member to purchase a subscription for you.

Jackson.

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And you're telling me to "give it a rest"? Mammy why don't you,"give it a vacation" a LONG ONE!!

All of your post have no information at all, some brown nosing, and a lot of asking for help and information, just leeching like a deadbeat.

You should have thought about your track record before becoming a "know it all" in the Colombia section. Like I said earlier, I don't like you.

Ironically my cause here (the Medellin Reports forum) would benefit you the most.

I don't want to hear any more suggestions from you, PERIOD!

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1536377]It's actually comical, a debate on where to place your reports, ideas, opinions, etc within the forum.

Ideally, Socker is obviously right. Posting in the various sections, like Hotels, Food, etc would be great. Would keep information, reports, etc organized.

At times guys do make their posts in the corresponding sections, however, as we know, the main Medellin forum does go off on it's tangents LOL.

I don't think it's anything to get upset about or rave about really.

When things start to go off tangent, anyone can post that they're moving their reply to the appropriate section and Viola (wala) , the conversation usually moves.

The newbies, just like the vets did when new, have to weed through and find what they want, and then again, the Medellin Lists section usually stays fairly relevant, and that's what'll get ya going in the right direction.

Have fun amigos![/QUOTE]Claro q I'm in the Shocker and Ricker camp on this one. Information should be places in the correct place for the next guy to be able to use. What's the point of having a community if nothing worth while comes of it?

Sammy Miami. You give it a rest.

You guys are really arguing about this? There's nothing on tv?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777; 1536630]Claro q I'm in the Shocker and Ricker camp on this one. Information should be places in the correct place for the next guy to be able to use. What's the point of having a community if nothing worth while comes of it?

Sammy Miami. You give it a rest.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro. I did not intend to come down so hard on MS but as I read his post history (all crap, all in Med. Reports) I just lost my composure a bit. Guys w / no standing shouldn't be disrespecting the board members here who have contributed to this forum, plain and simple.

Cheers, life is great!

Crime in Colombia. An interview w / the Cali mayor. Interesting insights from Rodrigo Velasco the mayor.

[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/07/13/they-could-have-killed-me-very-easily-a-colombian-mayors-fight-against-homicide/[/url]

HP: You, as a public figure, were somewhat insulated from direct intimidation by the cartel.

RGV: Right. For example, I never accepted [their repeated proposals to meet with them]: I would say, "Well, any city problem that you would like to discuss with me? Welcome.… The moment that you need something that I can solve, I will talk. The moment I need something that you can do, I will let you know…" I never saw them or met them.


HP: They were willing to accept that approach?


RGV: They accepted it, reluctantly. They could have killed me very easily. It would be peanuts. But they said: "We, the Cali cartel, are different from the Medellin cartel.” They have highly educated people, U.S. graduates in business. So they follow the Italian Mafia concept of threatening and bribing, rather than killing.

Been in a LDR with this Colombiana since last June but would like to be certain she's not with me only for the visa or that she has a local novio too.

What are the best tricks in the book to test or catch her?

Am asking the mongers who have seen it all haha.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1544240]Been in a LDR with this Colombiana since last June but would like to be certain she's not with me only for the visa or that she has a local novio too.

What are the best tricks in the book to test or catch her?

Am asking the mongers who have seen it all haha.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Where to start? Long distance almost always never end up well.

How often do you visit her? Anything less than every other month and you get to "what's the point?"

Red flags:

1. Does she have facebook? If so, who are her friends? Prepagos? Gringos? Very bad.

2. Does she have a full time job? If not, what do you think she's going to be doing with all that free time?

Testing I normally don't like because it never ends well for a relationship. If you must, have a friend chat her up and see if she buckles.

Before you even consider getting her a visa. Stay for an extended period of time (maybe a month) and just observe for strange calls, hanging out with friends etc.

Good luck!

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1544240]Been in a LDR with this Colombiana since last June but would like to be certain she's not with me only for the visa or that she has a local novio too.

What are the best tricks in the book to test or catch her?

Am asking the mongers who have seen it all haha.

Thanks[/QUOTE]If you don't live in Colombia it's guaranteed that she has a local novio, one can't expect a young hot blooded Colombiana to go without sex and male companionship while you are gone.

That said, the way to find out is to befriend some local guys that know her but aren't that close to her and take them out partying on your nickel a few times and then sit him down and tell him you'll bring him a gift from the U.S. if he can give you proof of her infidelity, don't ask him to find out IF she is sleeping around, this will make you out to be a fool because even if you don't think that she is doing it, the local guy KNOWS she is.

Interesting advice Manizales.

In fact I befriended an American who got deported there a year ago and who's struggling a bit. Am sure he'd be willing to play spy game in Bocagrande LOL.

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund;1544338]In fact I befriended an American who got deported there a year ago and who's struggling a bit. Am sure he'd be willing to play spy game in Bocagrande LOL.[/QUOTE]Boca Grande? You mean La Dolce Vida Boca Grande? That says it all. If you have to test someone why even be with them at all?

No Mr. E she works full time 6 days out of 7 in a restaurant in Bocagrande.

I might be a newbie but never in my life I'd put any faith or hope in a LDV chica.

And it's good information. Thanks.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy; 1545933]Here's a list of the 50 most dangerous cities in the world, based on murder per capita, including America cities.

[url]http://www.businessinsider.com/the-most-violent-cities-in-the-world-2013-11?op=1[/url][/QUOTE]

[url]https://www.facebook.com/267407409972649/photos/a.336454526401270.72784.267407409972649/345130325533690/?type=1&theater[/url]

Where would I go, what's the cost? I want top of the line chicas!

[QUOTE=BlueChange; 1547629][url]https://www.facebook.com/267407409972649/photos/a.336454526401270.72784.267407409972649/345130325533690/?type=1&theater[/url]

Where would I go, what's the cost? I want top of the line chicas![/QUOTE]Head to eastern Europe.

Send us a report back.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1548055]Head to eastern Europe.

Send us a report back.[/QUOTE]This is from a FB page dedicated to Colombian Girls. Are you sure these girls don't stick around Medellin or are they all shipped over to Europe?

I wouldn't put any faith in anyone.

Best bet is put your faith in 75. 00 bucks for a good time with an LDV Chica.

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1544553]No Mr. E she works full time 6 days out of 7 in a restaurant in Bocagrande.

I might be a newbie but never in my life I'd put any faith or hope in a LDV chica.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BlueChange;1548370]This is from a FB page dedicated to Colombian Girls. Are you sure these girls don't stick around Medellin or are they all shipped over to Europe?[/QUOTE]I hear the women in Bulgaria rock. Please investigate and send a report.

[QUOTE=MiamiSammy;1548529]I hear the women in Bulgaria rock. Please investigate and send a report.[/QUOTE]Funny you say that.

My last trip to London I acually met a girl from Bulgaria and she did rock me!

Crazy! LOL

Thanks for all the advices guys but at last I got the proof I needed about her cheating so instead of us meeting in Cancun mexico Friday like she expects it I am paying her a surprise visit on Wednesday haha!

I am going not only to confront her but as well to get back the money I lent her for her visa application.

Someone is going to cry big time.

[QUOTE=Ricker; 1548649]Funny you say that.

My last trip to London I acually met a girl from Bulgaria and she did rock me!

Crazy! LOL[/QUOTE]I hear they speak Spanish? Nothing like hearing "Oh, mas Papi!" in a different accent, no?

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1548664]Thanks for all the advices guys but at last I got the proof I needed about her cheating so instead of us meeting in Cancun mexico Friday like she expects it I am paying her a surprise visit on Wednesday haha!

I am going not only to confront her but as well to get back the money I lent her for her visa application.

Someone is going to cry big time.[/QUOTE]To crush you heart, but no VISA need for Colombians going to Mexico.

My dos pesos Amigo,

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1548664]Thanks for all the advices guys but at last I got the proof I needed about her cheating so instead of us meeting in Cancun mexico Friday like she expects it I am paying her a surprise visit on Wednesday haha!

I am going not only to confront her but as well to get back the money I lent her for her visa application.

Someone is going to cry big time.[/QUOTE]I would be careful,she might call her Colombian novio or a family member and you may have to deal with them. Personally I would just shut down the gravy train and move on amigo.

I was talking about a visa for the united states. The trip to Mexico was just to help her get some travel history since she never travelled outside Colombia.

I appreciate the advice Manizales but she won't know where I'll be sleeping and also I doubt she'll do anything that could ruin her chances to come over here which is something she desperately wants.

Luckily for me my cousin is a computer tech genius so we've been through her emails and found the jackpot.

She'll need to fool the next gringo and with her beauty it won't take long LOL.

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1548664]Thanks for all the advices guys but at last I got the proof I needed about her cheating so instead of us meeting in Cancun mexico Friday like she expects it I am paying her a surprise visit on Wednesday haha!

I am going not only to confront her but as well to get back the money I lent her for her visa application.

Someone is going to cry big time.[/QUOTE]This bozo should really look at a bit of Colombian modern history. They've moved on, but make no mistake, there are plenty of folks still in Colombia that know how to tie a Colombian necktie. This guy went down to exploit folks- no judgment per se- but it seems the exploiter got exploited. And by god, that's not fair, is it? [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue].

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LOL. Get the money back? Confront her? Why waste more time and money? Obviously she used the money for something. I'm sure she didn't have you send it just so she could put in her savings account.

Came back last week in one piece!

Got two thirds of my money so I can't complain.

From what I heard she nearly fainted when she realized I was in town according to one of the waiters working at the restaurant.

But the worst part was her not even wanting to admit it and begging me to let her show me her love or that someone else wrote the emails using her hotmail address or that she is so afraid of God she would never cheat on anyone etc.

LOL it was pathetic and sad.

Anyone know if the pharmacies carry ritalin or aderall in Medellin? Had a prescription in the states but haven't seen it here.

Thanks

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1559844]This should not be in Columbia forum.[/QUOTE]Logic that is.

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund; 1554406]Came back last week in one piece!

Got two thirds of my money so I can't complain.

From what I heard she nearly fainted when she realized I was in town according to one of the waiters working at the restaurant.

But the worst part was her not even wanting to admit it and begging me to let her show me her love or that someone else wrote the emails using her hotmail address or that she is so afraid of God she would never cheat on anyone etc.

LOL it was pathetic and sad.[/QUOTE]Is the restaurant any good and can you recommend?

I have been silent for a while now, but I really don't understand these Cheap Charlie remarks. I have been to most of Latin America, and have been mostly a Budget monger, but at times in Lima (Davids girls) , and in CTG I pay the 150K in LDV. Also one time in BAQ (trip reports # 792, and #793) I overpaid. I really mentioned those two reports as it was one of my best experience's, and you guys might find it a good read after my moaning here. LOL.

Well lets get to IMHO the heart of the matter. Who causes more harm in the Monger Community? Is it the guys who offer girls they know from past trips for 200k on the ISG forums. Is it the guys who say " Hey I'm on vacation. And I don't care what I spend "? I don't see these fellows getting degrading labels. It is a free world when out of sex prison so men can do as they please. That is great.

I noticed for me that overpaying just did not make sense to me. At first I would give 20K for the BBBJ, but one day I had no change, but a 10K note. I gave that, and the smile I got was just like it was 20 K. My last trip to MDE while in Mayorista I noticed the selection was terrible compared to years past. A lot of Grandmas, and Gorditas. It seems the better girls are on the Social networks, and getting top dollar that way.

Maybe if someone can come up with a label for the top dollar guys I will get off my soapbox.

If you are a big spender or a Budget Monger I wish you all the luck in the world.

To answer Hilltopper the name of the restaurant is El Muelle and yes I would definitely recommend it. Especially the seafood.

[QUOTE=Mats Naslund;1561254]To answer Hilltopper the name of the restaurant is El Muelle and yes I would definitely recommend it. Especially the seafood.[/QUOTE]Oh okay, are you talking about the two story restaurant that sits on Playa Laguito a block from Hotel Dann? If so, do you prefer to sit upstairs or downstairs? Or maybe you are referring to El Muelle de la Marina? I know the one on Playa Laguito and can concur, but I've never been to the one at the Marina.

Plane ticket check. Apartmento confirmed check. 1 more day in the States. 6 days in Cartagena. How are the ladies looking at LDV? Heard here that the quality has gone down some. Traveling solo is is safe to head out to Electra by myself or should I try to hook up with someone? Trip report to follow. First time to Cartagena. Been to Thailand, Panama, Curauso, dr, hoping Cartagena lives up to what I have read here. See ya there.

The one on Playa Laguito. Downstairs would be my suggestion.

Hey guys,

I'm trying to find a new amante. I tried creating a profile on Colombia Cupid but every time I get to the final step it tells me that the site is no longer available. Is this true and if so what other sites can I use or you guys can recommend to meet close to non prepagos ladies?

[QUOTE=Amigox; 1562276]Hey guys,

I'm trying to find a new amante. I tried creating a profile on Colombia Cupid but every time I get to the final step it tells me that the site is no longer available. Is this true and if so what other sites can I use or you guys can recommend to meet close to non prepagos ladies?[/QUOTE]Where are you from? They may have blocked your country from signing up.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1563049]Where are you from? They may have blocked your country from signing up.[/QUOTE]USA and I tried setting up my profile on my home computer, work computer, and cell phone with no luck.

I notice that the limit on cigars is 50. Even the USA lets you bring in 100. That sucks if I stay for a month.

I was thinking of bringing 100 anyway or bring 50 regular size cigars and 50 or so cigarillo size cigars. I wonder if they would be able to tell (or would it matter) that they are cigars but in cigarette size?

Has anybody offered to pay tax on declared goods and is it worth it?

Thank You for the information.

Has anyone had Colombian immigration give them more time than the 180 days per year on a tourist visa? I've been here since January, only left the country for 2 days and by my math that should put me at 180 days on July 1st. When I extended my visa at immigration in Medellin they wrote in 26 Juli 14, which I take to mean July 26th. That is definitely over 180 days so will immigration at the airport catch that if I tried to leave on July 26th? The extra days would be convenient, but not if they hand me a nice fat multa on the way out.

I guess I could go back to immigration and ask them but since it looks like they goofed up in the first place I'm not sure I will get a correct answer out of them. Does anyone know if the computers the immigration guys swipe your passport through automatically flag something like over 180 days on a tourist visa? And would it be a good enough defense that immigration stamped my passport with the wrong date? I can see them saying "yeah we gave you more time than you are allowed but you should have known you dumb gringo. Here's a multa for a billion pesos".

I should just play it safe and leave on July 1st, but an extra week or so really would work out great. That is if I don't have to pay out the ying yang on the way out.

Hands down you will be fined and possibly barred from entering the country again.

[QUOTE=Napalm;1572539]Has anyone had Colombian immigration give them more time than the 180 days per year on a tourist visa? I've been here since January, only left the country for 2 days and by my math that should put me at 180 days on July 1st. When I extended my visa at immigration in Medellin they wrote in 26 Juli 14, which I take to mean July 26th. That is definitely over 180 days so will immigration at the airport catch that if I tried to leave on July 26th? The extra days would be convenient, but not if they hand me a nice fat multa on the way out.

I guess I could go back to immigration and ask them but since it looks like they goofed up in the first place I'm not sure I will get a correct answer out of them. Does anyone know if the computers the immigration guys swipe your passport through automatically flag something like over 180 days on a tourist visa? And would it be a good enough defense that immigration stamped my passport with the wrong date? I can see them saying "yeah we gave you more time than you are allowed but you should have known you dumb gringo. Here's a multa for a billion pesos".

I should just play it safe and leave on July 1st, but an extra week or so really would work out great. That is if I don't have to pay out the ying yang on the way out.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Napalm;1572539]Has anyone had Colombian immigration give them more time than the 180 days per year on a tourist visa? I've been here since January, only left the country for 2 days and by my math that should put me at 180 days on July 1st. When I extended my visa at immigration in Medellin they wrote in 26 Juli 14, which I take to mean July 26th. That is definitely over 180 days so will immigration at the airport catch that if I tried to leave on July 26th? The extra days would be convenient, but not if they hand me a nice fat multa on the way out.

I guess I could go back to immigration and ask them but since it looks like they goofed up in the first place I'm not sure I will get a correct answer out of them...[/QUOTE]I have seen a few of these situations and I will give you the best answer I can.

If you enter the country over 180 without proper documents you will not get in.

In your situation I would leave on July 26th. I have had friends that have done it many times. These guys have entered the country with minimal time, let's say 2 weeks to 6 weeks, and applied for extensions and received them from immigration for 60 days. Upon leaving, no problems. The airport is going to see a form stamped from immigration through July 26. You applied for an extension and received it through this date. You can always call immigration and ask them what date they show you good through. I would not alert them and lead them to this error.

I am going to be up against it this year. If return after late August, which I don't plan to, I will have 15 days left. I will immediately go to immigration and apply for extension. I have nothing to lose. If they give extra days I won't hesitate to take them.

On a different note, I stayed 100 consecutive days once and knew I was over the limit. All I needed to do was go to immigration to apply for extension. I was too disorganized and never made. Paid two fines which totaled $280. I read a few articles online that stated this would happen and it did.

Don't hesitate to call immigration or US Embassy offices to find things out and ask "off the record" questions. Be vague and don't give your info. Present your situation, of them stamping over by less than a month, and see what they say. I actually tried to call a US Embassy abroad today but they were closed for Memorial Day.

No guarantees when you are finding loopholes. Buena Suerte.

[URL]http://www.colombia.travel/en/international-tourist/practical-information/travel-to-colombia-information-and-advice/upon-departure[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1572571]Hands down you will be fined and possibly barred from entering the country again.[/QUOTE]No way. Yes he will be fined but he won't be banned from entering the country again.

Thanks for the replies and input. As it turns out it will be just as convenient to take my ass out of country on time, so that is what I will do. No point in rocking the boat if you don't need to!

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1572662]I have seen a few of these situations and I will give you the best answer I can.

In your situation I would leave on July 26th. I have had friends that have done it many times. These guys have entered the country with minimal time, let's say 2 weeks to 6 weeks, and applied for extensions and received them from immigration for 60 days. Upon leaving, no problems. The airport is going to see a form stamped from immigration through July 26. You applied for an extension and received it through this date. You can always call immigration and ask them what date they show you good through. I would not alert them and lead them to this error.
[/QUOTE]That's what it seems like to me, that if they stamp my passport through July 26th, that I should be good through July 26th. But then again this is Colombia, and what I think doesn't count for much! I do recall now that the lady even told me when I was at immigration that I didn't have 90 days left, then she goes and gives me like 100 days.

Hey gents, Member here on ISG and for years have been looking to take a step from good ol Tijuana to something more distant and thrilling. Even contemplated Thailand, but as luck would have it I got word at work that I will need to be in Colombia for 2 days on business! I am still in awe and really excited. I will have a partner but after 2 days he can head back or do whatever the hell he wants because I sure as hell am staying a few more days and take advantage!

Here is the question, I will be in Medellin and not sure if I should stay there or take a flight to Cartagena or any other place in Colombia. I have Read the Forum and know there is good action to be had in Medellin.

Keep in mind I would be a complete rookie and have never been to Colombia.

Pros:

I know spanish.

Not new to mongering.

Cons:

Going solo.

Have 5 days only.

Never been here and do not know where to stay or where to go.

Obviously I will read more and more from the forum, but any advice for this Colombia newbie would be greatly appreciated.

That depends on where you are working.

Cartagena would be the last choice. Because it is too time consuming to find action.

If you are working in Bogota, start there. There is much to see and do there. See my lists and maps for action.

[QUOTE=SlickVick;1579365]Hey gents, Member here on ISG and for years have been looking to take a step from good ol Tijuana to something more distant and thrilling. Even contemplated Thailand, but as luck would have it I got word at work that I will need to be in Colombia for 2 days on business! I am still in awe and really excited. I will have a partner but after 2 days he can head back or do whatever the hell he wants because I sure as hell am staying a few more days and take advantage!

Here is the question, I will be in Medellin and not sure if I should stay there or take a flight to Cartagena or any other place in Colombia. I have Read the Forum and know there is good action to be had in Medellin.

Keep in mind I would be a complete rookie and have never been to Colombia.

Pros:

I know spanish.

Not new to mongering.

Cons:

Going solo.

Have 5 days only.

Never been here and do not know where to stay or where to go.

Obviously I will read more and more from the forum, but any advice for this Colombia newbie would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1579639]That depends on where you are working.

Cartagena would be the last choice. Because it is too time consuming to find action.

If you are working in Bogota, start there. There is much to see and do there. See my lists and maps for action.[/QUOTE]I will be staying in Medellin. So from reading up it seems that I should just stay put since it seems a good place.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1579639]That depends on where you are working.

Cartagena would be the last choice. Because it is too time consuming to find action.

If you are working in Bogota, start there. There is much to see and do there. See my lists and maps for action.[/QUOTE]Hey guys,

Quick question. I wonder why Cartagena would be the last choice. I was recently there. I could not find it any easier to pick up girls. Actually there were some I just didn't have the time for and are mow on my list for next time. I do agree if you are already in MDE stay there. No need to go elsewhere. But I don't understand why it woukd be hard to find girls in CTG. Just curious.

If you look on the List and Maps you will see that there are very few places to find action.

Most of the action is at night.

It is also more expensive.

It is a tourist and port town, so prices are higher.

I do like Cartagena for tourist things to see and do.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1579878]Hey guys,

Quick question. I wonder why Cartagena would be the last choice. I was recently there. I could not find it any easier to pick up girls. Actually there were some I just didn't have the time for and are mow on my list for next time. I do agree if you are already in MDE stay there. No need to go elsewhere. But I don't understand why it woukd be hard to find girls in CTG. Just curious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlickVick;1579661]I will be staying in Medellin. So from reading up it seems that I should just stay put since it seems a good place.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's the best plan. There is only about one day's worth of general sightseeing stuff, so that plus nightime activities make a two day Medellin free time perfect. (I assume that the two days are free time, in addition to your work responsibilities). Cartagena is a nice tourist desetination, but very mediocre for punting. Its not worth the effort. Save Cartagena for another trip in the future. Paisas are better anyway.

Make sure to go on the Pablo Escobar tour. Not only is it interesting, but its also a decent general tour of the city.

[QUOTE=NCal2014;1579878]Hey guys,

Quick question. I wonder why Cartagena would be the last choice. I was recently there. I could not find it any easier to pick up girls. Actually there were some I just didn't have the time for and are mow on my list for next time. I do agree if you are already in MDE stay there. No need to go elsewhere. But I don't understand why it woukd be hard to find girls in CTG. Just curious.[/QUOTE]Cartagena is great as well, and easy to find women. As most guys know though, it's just different.

For the inexperienced especially, can be much more expensive.

I like Cartagena, and have fun there, for me however, it's good for a couple or few days only.

Medellin is home base for me.

For the guy that's already in Medellin already for work.

I suggest, like others have, to stay put and enjoy the scene there.

Have fun!!

Vai Brasil na Copa!!

Thanks for the tips guys. Great starting point and now I will focus on reading up on MDE. I am not sure just yet what hotel I will be put up at, but after my work is done and I stay longer I want to stay somewhere close to the action. I have read over and over that Masion is the best bet, but is this the only option to make things easy? Are there any nice hotels by the best casas? I am very much more into getting girls into my room.

I am pretty well comfortable now with the currency conversion and as I said, speaking good spanish is a plus.

Colombia just beat Japan 4-1 in the World Cup soccer championships. They all 3 games in their bracket, have 9 points, and will go on to the round of 16. Who knows how far they will go. Congrats to their team.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1585873]Colombia just beat Japan 4-1 in the World Cup soccer championships. They all 3 games in their bracket, have 9 points, and will go on to the round of 16. Who knows how far they will go. Congrats to their team.[/QUOTE]I was at a bar with a young CO couple, they were so excited, nice kids. Like most Paisas they were nice.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1585914]I was at a bar with a young CO couple, they were so excited, nice kids. Like most Paisas they were nice.[/QUOTE]So far 10 countries have made it to the World Cup round of 16. Seven are Latin American countries: Mexico, Costa Rica, Colombia, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina and host Brazil. Its home continent advantage.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1586190]So far 10 countries have made it to the World Cup round of 16. Seven are Latin American countries: Mexico, Costa Rica, Colombia, Chile, Uruguay, Argentina and host Brazil. Its home continent advantage.[/QUOTE]It will look like America Cup!

My Two Cents.

You can find a hotel in el centro. There are plenty and that puts you within walking distances from casas for day time and also strip clubs for night time. All you need is to print out the map and go on casa run.

If you only have 2-5 days, that is what I recommend.

Let us know how it goes.

[QUOTE=SlickVick;1580969]Thanks for the tips guys. Great starting point and now I will focus on reading up on MDE. I am not sure just yet what hotel I will be put up at, but after my work is done and I stay longer I want to stay somewhere close to the action. I have read over and over that Masion is the best bet, but is this the only option to make things easy? Are there any nice hotels by the best casas? I am very much more into getting girls into my room.

I am pretty well comfortable now with the currency conversion and as I said, speaking good spanish is a plus.[/QUOTE]

Not so sure about that. I have a feeling Holland is going to win this one guys!

[QUOTE=Kukulkan;1586358]It will look like America Cup!

My Two Cents.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1586462]Not so sure about that. I have a feeling Holland is going to win this one guys![/QUOTE]If Mexico beats Netherlands, then the next matches will be peace a cake.

Hi from Cancun guys.

My two cents.

My 2 c cents worth is that the final match will be Brazil vs. Argentina with Brazil winning.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1586737]My 2 c cents worth is that the final match will be Brazil vs. Argentina with Brazil winning.[/QUOTE]I second that.

[QUOTE=Kukulkan;1586935]I second That.[/QUOTE]Do not forget about the United States LOL!

Colombia keeps winning in the FIFA World Cup, beating the Suarez-less Uruguay team 2-0 today. Rodriguez is the hero with 2 gooooals. The announcer on the radio said they were celebrating in Bogota. Brazil is next, should be a good match.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1587986]Colombia keeps winning in the FIFA World Cup, beating the Suarez-less Uruguay team 2-0 today. Rodriguez is the hero with 2 gooooals. The announcer on the radio said they were celebrating in Bogota. Brazil is next, should be a good match.[/QUOTE]Yep, I'm in brazil. They're dancing in the streets here!

That was a tense match against Chile.

My two favorite latin American teams playing next.

Colombia and Brazil.

Yikes.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1586737]My 2 c cents worth is that the final match will be Brazil vs. Argentina with Brazil winning.[/QUOTE]These 4 European teams have been very strong in this world cup.

I consider them stronger and more apt for the last round than both Brasil and Colombia.

Germany is both individually and as a team considerded superstrong.

France has been re-born and now, finally, plays according to it's normal high standard.

Colombia will not survive the Brasil match.

Argentina will fall against tuff Belgium or even harder Holland. Believe me!

France or Germany will immediately stop a Brasilian team that, considered the hitherto opponentes formal mediocre strengths, not works as a team, in sharp contrast to Germany, who's play flow like Beethoven music.

Western European teams knocked out so far in the World Cup: Portugal, Spain, England, and Italy. Who will be next? I still think its Brazil as the team to beat. They have one big plus; home field advantage. Its hard for other teams to overcome that.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1588014]These 4 European teams have been very strong in this world cup.

I consider them stronger and more apt for the last round than both Brasil and Colombia.

Germany is both individually and as a team considerded superstrong.

France has been re-born and now, finally, plays according to it's normal high standard.

Colombia will not survive the Brasil match.

Argentina will fall against tuff Belgium or even harder Holland. Believe me!

France or Germany will immediately stop a Brasilian team that, considered the hitherto opponentes formal mediocre strengths, not works as a team, in sharp contrast to Germany, who's play flow like Beethoven music.[/QUOTE]Germany is weak on the back end. There 4 big strikers are not great on defense.

Brasil will lose to Colombia.

Do not dismiss the team-oriented lack of superstars US team.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1588140]Hmmm. Your opinion reveals more about you, than about the reality of these countries. The reality is: All countries are good countries. If you have money![/QUOTE]A couple of years ago I asked a waiter in a Tijuana Restaurant to compare living in Tijuana to living in the bay area where he grew up. He was 35 or so and he moved from the bay area to Tijuana 15 years prior.

He said the money making is better in the US and the living is better in Tijuana. I think he had a few kids and probably lived well away from the zona. For me there is an honesty I feel in other countries that I don't feel anymore in my own country.

I have childhood friends that have left the USA to live else where in peace. Far far away from the maddening March of political correctness and the manipulation of reality by the media and special interest groups.

The US is my home but it has truly lost it's way imo. It's not easy for me to stomach my hometown on a daily basis. When I cross the border, Tijuana reminds me of my hometown in a simpler time because of it's blue collar roots and the freedom the individual has there.

For me I'll retire (part time) in a country run by men like my country used to be. That's the ideal if you enjoy personal freedom, far away from big brother and the nanny government.

One thing I've noticed (over the years) is that countries and high schools have a Rah Rah mentality. We're the greatest!

In my country women have forgotten their way. They have it all now, power, money, a majority vote, and power over men. They have won the battle of the sexes.

Eventually this will come back to haunt them. IMO.

Can someone PM me and tell me the address, website, or phone number to reserve?

Thanks,

SM

I've been advised that a USA Programmed and subscribed Direct T. V. Box will receive the programming in Colombia. Anyone have an ideas on how to get Yankee programming?

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1588373]I've been advised that a USA Programmed and subscribed Direct T. V. Box will receive the programming in Colombia. Anyone have an ideas on how to get Yankee programming?[/QUOTE]Slingbox. If you have a USA based cable TV account sling it to Colombia then hook your TV up to your computer and / or Apple TV or similar device. It will also allow you to watch on an Iphone and IPad.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1588373]I've been advised that a USA Programmed and subscribed Direct T. V. Box will receive the programming in Colombia. Anyone have an ideas on how to get Yankee programming?[/QUOTE]Streaming from MLB. TV.

I just back from a week in Cancun with my Colombian girlfriend. Colombians need a passport to enter Mexico and this easy to obtain. She had to go to two places locally in Medellin and the cost was about $100 USD total. She had to return to one of the places a few days later a pick up her passport. Very easy.

I had read of a few instances where Colombian women were denied entrance into Cancun. I was advised by another board member to have her bring at least $500 so she had $900 upon arrival. I had no problems with immigration. A few basic questions and on our way we went. It was nice to have the cash on hand upon arrival though. Great trip but I would not return. I will take South Florida and The Florida Keys in a second over Cancun. My girlfriend needs a Visa to enter the US though. I want to add that I am 40 and my girlfriend is 29. Also, on my trip to Cancun, and my previous trip to San Andres, I only saw one couple where the age gap was 25+ years involving a Gringo. I saw this couple in customs in Cancun. Unfortunately, they were way behind me in the line so I can't say if they made it through or not.

I was required by Copa Airlines to show proof of my return ticket to the US from Medellin. This happened in the airport in Cancun upon trying to return to Medellin. A manager let me use a computer to access my emails and print out my itinerary. If necessary I would have purchased a fully refundable one way ticket from Medellin to the US and then cancelled upon arrival in Medellin.

The next step for me and my girlfriend is to get a tourist visa to the US. This process should take less than a month. I was told that the acceptance rate currently is a whopping 85% and all tourist visas are for 10 years. I will report back either way. I want to add that I am not looking to get married or live with my girlfriend in the States any time soon. The goal is a couple of short visits to the States per year.

[QUOTE=Socker;1588303]A couple of years ago I asked a waiter in a Tijuana Restaurant to compare living in Tijuana to living in the bay area where he grew up. He was 35 or so and he moved from the bay area to Tijuana 15 years prior.

He said the money making is better in the US and the living is better in Tijuana. I think he had a few kids and probably lived well away from the zona. For me there is an honesty I feel in other countries that I don't feel anymore in my own country.

I have childhood friends that have left the USA to live else where in peace. Far far away from the maddening March of political correctness and the manipulation of reality by the media and special interest groups.

The US is my home but it has truly lost it's way imo. It's not easy for me to stomach my hometown on a daily basis. When I cross the border, Tijuana reminds me of my hometown in a simpler time because of it's blue collar roots and the freedom the individual has there..[/QUOTE]+1. I totally agree.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1591242]The next step for me and my girlfriend is to get a tourist visa to the US. This process should take less than a month. I was told that the acceptance rate currently is a whopping 85% and all tourist visas are for 10 years. I will report back either way. I want to add that I am not looking to get married or live with my girlfriend in the States any time soon. The goal is a couple of short visits to the States per year.[/QUOTE]How is her financial situation? Does she have a good job? Is her family well off (owns a house at least)? Does she have money in the bank? If she is a poor barrio girl, I don't think she will get a visa.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1592795]How is her financial situation? Does she have a good job? Is her family well off (owns a house at least)? Does she have money in the bank? If she is a poor barrio girl, I don't think she will get a visa.[/QUOTE]The guy at the visa place in El Centro says the current acceptance rate is a whopping 85% for tourist visas. I spoke to another guy here that is pretty well connected and he says that Colombian girls are getting into the US easier also. Need to fill out an application online, print it out, and bring it to El Centro. Cost is $165 and needs to be paid in El Centro. Every person is accepted and then a date is set, normally in about two weeks, in which all applicants are required to travel to Bogota. The decision is made that day. All tourism visas are good for 10 years.

I have heard that the most important thing, in being accepted, is stability in Colombia. Having a family that lives in a decent neighborhood, kids, good job, bank account, etc. Obviously the thing that they are screening for is Colombians not looking to return to Colombia.

I will report back after the process either way.

Just for giggles; It is fun to scroll down this page and read the various world cup predictions. Go Germany!

Consolation for Colombia. It is amazing to watch this guy play.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1593789]Just for giggles; It is fun to scroll down this page and read the various world cup predictions. Go Germany![/QUOTE]You were Right, Germany Got it.

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1594345]Consolation for Colombia. It is amazing to watch this guy play.[/QUOTE]Great player during the World Cup no doubt, but did not do much before so don't see why he is valued so much, reminds me of the Senegal forward al haji. Was outstanding during the World Cup in France and than was a complete flop.

[QUOTE=SailorJim;1193859]The Colombian Cupid sites are a no win, putas posing as regular girls, saying they are looking for a meaningful relationship and marriage. This so they can get the tourist to fall in love and send money every month. Bring up sex for your vacation and prices come into the discussion- The puta is always a puta.

There are casa girls and mayorista girls on these sites and when you contact them on the site for sex they are wanting to charge LOTS of money. Yet you can have her at the casa, no dinner, no presents, no waste of time, for 35K. And you are not walking the streets with a known puta. The girls on these sites totally play the dumb tourist. Which is why the vets and smart new comers don't even discuss these here. Until now. Don't waste your time, go for the done deal.

Sad thing is tourists come down looking for a wife, fall in love, send money every month, get married, start singing "My Girl" by the Temptations, bring her back home and after she gets citizenship she bolts, was fucking other guys the whole time before and afer and you are left paying alimony and singing Smokey Robinson "The Tears of a Clown."[/QUOTE]Yes. And No.

Among the most pretty one's they are either fake or golddiggers. A vast majority are like that.

Among the normal looking girls the half might be Golddiggers, or just plainly are asking for money after a short personal presentation and act that it is normal, while the bad reputation of Medellin and Colombia thus remains at "hookers and drugtraffickers paradise" while the other serious half, luckily unaware of this, looks for a normal relationship.

It's like a pyramid. The more beautiful, the more risk. Colombianas have amongst them a minority, but a very active such, of girls that are total psychopaths. It's incredible, but's it's a real social phenomenen! Meet one or two, just for the experience, for example at the 100% hoax site Amolatina. What you will experience with Amolatinagirls is what to be expected thereafter, in various versions. And; Yes, you can be a handsome guy! These girls don't care at all! They are like Cobras, focusing on killing their pray, wihtout any wish neither ability to feel some sort of empathy for their victim. The money goes to plastic surgery and luxury consumption.

All / Even local men say the same thing. I have several Medellin friends that avoid the local girls, even though they consider the girls to be along the most attractive one's in the world! Why: because they are always looking for money! You can't have a real relationship. That's the price of beauty in Medellin. It's good for us "putoneros", we just love to pay for sex, and then, fully relaxed, focus on something that has real value, while the prepago runs to Studio F and waste her sex-money, and do so until she can't! Conception of time, does not enter their world, just as little it does Cat's or Dog's world's! They just are HERE & NOW!

The result is that romantic sites are PR for prepagos. And for honest girls that don't think at all in those terms, if they knew what is constantly going on (the Cupid owners don't want to know, but they know) they would abandon those sites to never come back!

Cupid is though serious, in comparison, to Amolatina, latinamericanlove which are 100% rip-offs. $US100 get's you nothing, maybe $US500, will by you a fake date. It's legal as long as we accept it. Horrific!

At Cupid sites and at Latineuro you might meet a honest person, even though the probability is very low, but paying relatively little money it's worth a try! While at Amolatina or Latinamericanlove the girls and the owner have an agreement. Which is logical, but really sick moral, and in the end improductive, since it scares away the guys and everyone that have heard or read of their stories.

I only have experience with Cupid and my 9 years of experience is the total opposite of you guys'. I have only met 2 gold diggers in person (one in Bogota and one in Cartagena) and they were promptly cut off as soon as I saw their angle. You have to nip that shit in the bud as soon as it starts. You are not a bank. But as soon as you agree to start giving or sending a woman money then that is exactly what you will be. Tell them no from the start. Don't be afraid to lose out on the pussy. There will always be pussy. And if worst comes to worst you can go right out and buy some direct for probably much cheaper. I have never had to give a cupid girl money or gifts and I am not about to start doing it today.

The site AMOLATINA. I mean I have met a totally "artificial"girl from the site I just hated her, her looks was 100% the result of modern science but very unnatural, I did hardly belive what I saw. And personality, was even worse! I had to control myself not explode of pure irritation. I also exchanged emails with five of the girls. This was in 2009. I put together that it was the girls at the office in Poblado that wrote the emails. Now it's more advanced, with girls online, getting payed by AMOLATINA and has that as a work. It's easy money for them, but for you it's waste of money and it's a cultural thing that brings shame on Colombia.

In May 2014 I entered LATINAMERICANLOVE and payed totally 100 USD for chatting etc, as an experiment, an expensive one, but from my point of view necessary. After paying the 100 USD I sent a few messages and started chatting with the girls. Or really; I DID NOT. "The girls" did only chatt in English. I chatted in Spanish and the girls from Medellin answered in English. When asked to answer in Spanish the conversation either died or she said " I just want to practise my English". Ridicolous! I entered to look around and get a picture what the site was about and I found out it was a total scam. How does such business go on? I mean, who stays longer than a day or two. Well, avoid.

And there are more of scamsites. It's like the sites over Russian mail Order brides. You pay money that represents months of incomes for a normal person in Colombia, in just an hour, a day or a fake date. I will come back with a review over other sites related to Colombia.

All sites are about $. All! But in different styles. Good reviews are often totally fakes. On Cupidmedias sites you can find a pretty girl, but before that you are likely to run into several internet-scammers. Here the girls operates independently. Cupidmedia of course know about this, but don't care, which actully might hurt their longterm interests. Colombianas are pestering foreigners to make them send money, to have sex for money or what would become a relationship for money. Peruanas, Argentinas, Chilenas, NO. Colombianas, it's part of their culture. Goodhearted members of this forum says that it is bad luck, I say it's a social law, as valid as any physical or matematical law!

These two sites are 100% scam sites.

Here is a thorough review of AMOLATINA.

AMOLATINA:"Guys is it s a big scam. Just compare these profiles to the ones on Facebook. Notice the different cities, the ones that are in a relationship, etc. Besides do you really think attractive young ladies are sitting home on their computer 121-18 hours a day to talk to old men instead of out partying unless they were benefiting financially from it.

Maria 1176219, real name Carolina Camacho, profile says Buga, FB says Cali and Lesbian.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/caroline.camacho.1/about?ref=br_tf[/URL]

Day 1172772 (I am sure she is online right now), real name Liedy Orozco Toro, profile says Cucuta, FB says Cali. If you look at here timeline compared to the hours she is online to chat no way it could be her. Nor based on what seems to be success do you really think it would be her.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/[/URL]#leidyorozcotoro? Fref=ts.

Liedy Johanna 1179798 . She's actually a Colombian Porn Star, says it right on her FB timeline. Profile says one city FB says another.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/[/URL]#johanna. Gonzalez. 58323?fref=ts.

Jennifer 1173378. Does this girls timeline look like she is looking for a man, yet she is online most nights.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/[/URL]#jennifer. Castilloospina? Fref=ts.

I have 100's like this from this site. Plus it is obvious that there are "groups" that are online at the same time, thus it is actually the agent chatting with you for multiple girls not the girls.

Total scam. Please do not waste your $$$ on this site or any of their family of sites. ".

[URL]http://www.newser.com/story/191758/student-could-get-8-years-for-sharing-paper-online.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1592795]How is her financial situation? Does she have a good job? Is her family well off (owns a house at least)? Does she have money in the bank? If she is a poor barrio girl, I don't think she will get a visa.[/QUOTE]Hioctane,

You were correct.

This was a gut punch. Normally I am ready for the worst, when decisions are completely out of my control, but I was not prepared for this.

My Colombian girlfriend is 29 years old. 2 kids. 12 and 11 years old, lives in the same house her entire life with her parents and her kids.

Same job for 4 years as a secretary for lawyer. Letter of recommendation from lawyer with job details.

Letter from me stating that I would be with her and financing her trip.

Unfortunately not good enough.

The things that they focused on were as follows:

Do you own a house?

Do you own a car?

Do you have any relatives in the US?

How much money is in your bank account?

What is your job and how much do you earn?

Total cost was $700 which included airfare for 2, taxis, and the application itself ($175).

First taxi I take the next day in Medellin has a driver that received his US Tourism Visa one week earlier. The driver has a brother in the US, owns his taxi, owns his house in Belen, etc.

I will look at this again just before and during my January 2015 trip. I was told that writing a letter to the US Embassy might help. I will talk with an immigration lawyer back in the US. Her mother has a second house, albeit in a shitty area of Medellin, that she can officially sign over to her. I could put $5-$10 million pesos in her bank account also. We shall what happens, if and when, I cross that bridge.

Her mother bets me that she will get rejected on her future attempts. Typical attitude of a poor Colombian woman who has watched lots of poor get rejected in favor of the rich.

Applicants are allowed 3 attempts for a US Tourism Visa. I was told in Medellin the acceptance rate was 85% but found out in Bogota the actual acceptance rate is 60%.

If anyone has any suggestions please post them here or send me a pm.

Thanks in advance.

That sucks VJ.

Unfortunately a big bribe could help.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1609354]Hioctane,

You were correct.

This was a gut punch. Normally I am ready for the worst, when decisions are completely out of my control, but I was not prepared for this.

My Colombian girlfriend is 29 years old. 2 kids. 12 and 11 years old, lives in the same house her entire life with her parents and her kids.

Same job for 4 years as a secretary for lawyer. Letter of recommendation from lawyer with job details.

Letter from me stating that I would be with her and financing her trip...[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that Jeff. From what I understand, she needs at least $10,000 USD in the bank. They also want to see that she has a good job and will be able to support herself while she is in the US (promising to support her won't cut it).

[QUOTE=Shamester;1609597]That sucks VJ.

Unfortunately a big bribe could help.[/QUOTE]Bribe a U.S. Embassy official, you can't be serious.

Sorry to hear about your girls visa. Same story if you plan to get a UK visa for a Colombian. Wired part, UK is part of the EU, Colombians can travel anywhere within the EU without a visa, only for the UK they require one.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1609354]Hioctane,

You were correct.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Hey VJ,

Supposedly in March things will change dramatically. Similar experience, no reason given. Drop me a Pm.

HB.

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1610293]Sorry to hear about your girls visa. Same story if you plan to get a UK visa for a Colombian. Wired part, UK is part of the EU, Colombians can travel anywhere within the EU without a visa, only for the UK they require one.[/QUOTE]I had read back in April this was proposed by spain for all eu countries and to take effect sometime in 2014 but today searching the net I can find nothing confirming the acceptance only the proposal, can you enclose a website confirming.

[QUOTE=VegasJeff;1609354]
I will look at this again just before and during my January 2015 trip. I was told that writing a letter to the US Embassy might help. I will talk with an immigration lawyer back in the US. Her mother has a second house, albeit in a shitty area of Medellin, that she can officially sign over to her. I could put $5-$10 million pesos in her bank account also. We shall what happens, if and when, I cross that bridge.

Her mother bets me that she will get rejected on her future attempts. Typical attitude of a poor Colombian woman who has watched lots of poor get rejected in favor of the rich.

Applicants are allowed 3 attempts for a US Tourism Visa. I was told in Medellin the acceptance rate was 85% but found out in Bogota the actual acceptance rate is 60%.

If anyone has any suggestions please post them here or send me a pm.

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Why are you putting yourself through all of this trouble? Our Southern border is wide open. Have her go to Honduras, Guatemala, or Mexico and hoof it into Arizona or California on foot. She may get gangbanged by the Coyotes bringing her over from time to time, but once she's here she doesn't have to worry about being sent back (apparently)!

Only suckers play by the rules (lol).

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1610293]Sorry to hear about your girls visa. Same story if you plan to get a UK visa for a Colombian. Wired part, UK is part of the EU, Colombians can travel anywhere within the EU without a visa, only for the UK they require one.[/QUOTE]Although the UK are a part of the EU, they are not a party to the "Schengen Agreement," which accounts for the visa discrepancy. For example, I as a US national am limited to 90 days out of 180 days in the Schengen countries, but I can then spend an additional 90 days in the UK, so it's advantageous from that point of view.

Well, not really, since you'd have to pay me a lot of money to ever go to the UK again.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1610321]I had read back in April this was proposed by spain for all eu countries and to take effect sometime in 2014 but today searching the net I can find nothing confirming the acceptance only the proposal, can you enclose a website confirming.[/QUOTE]If I remember correctly, this came into effect in July, but I will try to see where I got the info and update again.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1610321]I had read back in April this was proposed by spain for all eu countries and to take effect sometime in 2014 but today searching the net I can find nothing confirming the acceptance only the proposal, can you enclose a website confirming.[/QUOTE][URL]http://colombiareports.co/visa-dropped-colombians-europes-schengen-area/[/URL]

This website confirms Colombians don't require a visa within the EU, just for the UK they do! Great as I am from the UK!

Casually marry her. My friend does it all the time in Central America. He's down there now w / his new 4 day old bride and plans to bring her back to the USA.

It sounds like you have a good thing going on w / your chica. If she is trustworthy and accepts any conditions you might have then marry her.

I hope things work out for you.

For me, I'm very happily married and I have a couple months of freedom per year.

Good Luck.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1610474]Although the UK are a part of the EU, they are not a party to the "Schengen Agreement," which accounts for the visa discrepancy. For example, I as a US national am limited to 90 days out of 180 days in the Schengen countries, but I can then spend an additional 90 days in the UK, so it's advantageous from that point of view.

Well, not really, since you'd have to pay me a lot of money to ever go to the UK again.[/QUOTE]She should change her religion to being a muslim, then she will get a UK visa no problem, not only that, she will also get a house and claim benefits.

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1610558][URL]http://colombiareports.co/visa-dropped-colombians-europes-schengen-area/[/URL]

This website confirms Colombians don't require a visa within the EU, just for the UK they do! Great as I am from the UK![/QUOTE]The law passed but has it been put into effect? Today I looked at 4 sites and all say visas required for germany and spain and other eu countries by colombianas. I was in Colombia in 2012 when the news stated no more visas for colombianas visiting mexico, but I think it took about 6 months for the law to come into effect. I wanted to take my Colombiana novia to Mexico but had to wait several months before Copa would sell us tickets from MDE to Cancun without having a visa.

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Hello everyone,

Can someone suggest any good websites for meeting Colombianas before my visit?

I have used latinamericancupid. Com in the past but not very impressed by it.

Thanks in advance.

Will a cell phone purchased in the Dominican Republic work in Colombia? Also, if I remember correctly, there's a place to get sim cards as you exit the airport in MDE. I get in at 8 pm but assume that the kiosk will still be open.

Thanks for any intel.

Lance

[QUOTE=LanceManion;1612312]Will a cell phone purchased in the Dominican Republic work in Colombia? Also, if I remember correctly, there's a place to get sim cards as you exit the airport in MDE. I get in at 8 pm but assume that the kiosk will still be open.

Thanks for any intel.

Lance[/QUOTE]Yes, unlocked. For LTE see frequencies 1,700 and / or 2,600.

[QUOTE=Questner;1612420]Yes, unlocked. For LTE see frequencies 1,700 and / or 2,600.[/QUOTE]Many thanks for the quick response.

Best,

Lance

[QUOTE=Questner;1612420]Yes, unlocked. For LTE see frequencies 1,700 and / or 2,600.[/QUOTE]You can buy a new cell phone in el centro, downtown Medellin for 45 k cop, a samsung for 55 k, $30 USD a good brand and good model and well worth the extra 10 k, so I would not pay to have a phone unlocked. Several years ago a phone I bot in in the DR, would not work with a Colombian sim card. I have lost count of the number of people I know who have had a cell phone ripped from their hand in Colombia, so better to lose a samsung than a BB. It is the BBs and Iphones not the 55 k ones that are stolen. This is more of a problem in el centro than up in gringolandia, El Poblado.

I am thinking the same as Bart. I vaguely remember the cell I bought in DR not working with a SIM card in another country.

Any unlocked quad band GSM phone should suffice.

[QUOTE=BeersTerry;1612808]Any unlocked quad band GSM phone should suffice.[/QUOTE]If you use regular GSM and choose between the handsets, here are the frequencies:

Claro (GSM) 850/1900 Mhz.

TIGO (GSM) 900 Mhz.

Telefónica Móviles (GSM) 850/1900 Mhz.

[QUOTE=HanshinBaka;1610316]Hey VJ,

Supposedly in March things will change dramatically. Similar experience, no reason given. Drop me a Pm.

HB.[/QUOTE]Guys,

I appreciate the feedback.

I met with a guy who specializes in Immigration Law and he also assists foreigners with getting established and doing business in Medellin. $50 for a 30 minute consultation. We talked for almost 90 minutes.

I was surprised to find out that my situation is somewhat rare. A guy who has a girlfriend for 2 years and wants her to visit only a few times per year. I was told that it would be smart to distance myself from the situation and put all emphasis on her qualifying independently. He said that mentioning the opposite sex while applying for a Tourism Visa is a negative. It better for her to find someone she knows that has a Visa and to say she will be traveling to Florida with this person to Disneyworld for example. I was also told that it is important to wait at least 6 months before applying again which I had planned on doing anyway.

We shall see what happens going forward. If I reapply I will post my experience either way.

[URL]www.colombiavisas.com[/URL]

Beware all on Thomas McDevitt from Jupiter Florida. He trashed my apt. In Medellin. Do not rent to him or trust him. He is drug addict.

Any experience by one of the members? I'm planning a birthday party in a restaurant for my wife and intent to invite some 20 family members and friends, before leaving Medellin. I was told that it was possible to get a refund of the VAT. Is that true? If so, where do I apply for that and what are the conditions?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1619992]Any experience by one of the members? I'm planning a birthday party in a restaurant for my wife and intent to invite some 20 family members and friends, before leaving Medellin. I was told that it was possible to get a refund of the VAT. Is that true? If so, where do I apply for that and what are the conditions?[/QUOTE]Value Added Tax is for durable goods, not perishable goods. If someone was to buy her a TV there and she wanted to take it out of the country then she would need to show the TV in the original box and the receipt to customs upon leaving the country in order for the VAT to be returned to her. You can't leave the country and say you ate and drank so and so and would like the tax returned to you because there should not even be a VAT on food in the first place. There could be other taxes on perishables, but not a value added tax.

If anyone is in Bogota, got a few spare tickets for Paris Hilton, she will be DJing at a private club this coming Friday 19th Sept in Bogota.

Drop me a line if you are interested.

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[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1620133]Value Added Tax is for durable goods, not perishable goods. If someone was to buy her a TV there and she wanted to take it out of the country then she would need to show the TV in the original box and the receipt to customs upon leaving the country in order for the VAT to be returned to her. You can't leave the country and say you ate and drank so and so and would like the tax returned to you because there should not even be a VAT on food in the first place. There could be other taxes on perishables, but not a value added tax.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reaction! Somebody sent me the following.

Looks like food is included.

Devolucion de IVA para turistas extranjeros.

Coomeva Turismo informa a todos sus asociados que mediante el decreto 2925, del Ministerio de Hacienda why Crdito Pblico, se reglament la devoluciand del IVA a los turistas extranjeros por la compra de bienes en Colombia como confecciones, calzado, perfumes, marroquinera, discos compactos, artesanas, licores, alimentos de consumo, juguetera, esmeraldas why joyas artesanales.

El decreto permite que la identificaciand del turista, como requisito de la devoluciand, no slo sea el pasaporte, sino tambiand el documento nacional de identidad en los casos que es vlido para ingresar al pas (Ecuador, Per, Chile, Bolivia why Brasil).

Las compras se deben efectuar con tarjeta de crdito why a la tarjeta se le abonar la devoluciand.

following hernando de sotos writing, but he of course excludes the genetic and cultural components.

i agree with that.

but for the sake of reasoning; why are colombian females as they are; they have an attitude towards sex & money that are the opposite of the one in the northern europe or new england.

colombians say that i come from a part of the world where people create something, not just make a fortune by stealing from // at the very moment // the weaker ones.

europeans created what has become a worldwide institution; the private property.

but if genes and culture doesn't cope with our "natural" view of owning property?

colombian females are notorious looking for sex for money and the country's prepagos are a export product that in the end brings in an enormous quantity of $$ also fixed exportations, colombian females marrying and living permanently might give an economic loss, but it also shows how good many colombians can have it; being beautiful they draw a lot of attention and rich guys from all over the world are eager to marry those ideal latin females.

the most important cultural difference is about property;.

colombians doesn't belong to you as an anglo-saxon wife would do. she has made a deal. for her and her fellow colombians this is 100% obvious, and it is ok for them.

their indian-african-european culture does not give the same emphasis on property as do the european / northamerican.

they don't see it with the same seriousness as we do.

only the elite, about 5% of the population, pure spanish, portuguese, and even 40-130 years ago "outsourced" north-american families are using the private property right to its full extent. hence they are the dominating class in colombia, brazil ecuador, peru, etc.

it's a cultural thing. the colombians are easy to get along with, they are not aggressive like anglo-saxons or even more arabs / jews about business, they help each other out to much greater extent.

when it comes to females and p4 p sex, the colombian girls doesn't feel they make a huge cultural error; they are 100% deceptive and unreliable and are known for that as well for their beauty! they consider it being at a money paradise, primarily known for this in panama, where, a fellow isg member reported"; there are 11 out of 10 colombian females here working as prepagos, pestering everyone". they don't care, they are like that, even in colombia and it's a fixed cultural trait that will not change with a growing economy, instead it might become worse. the females earn the same $$ as do their male counterparts and are not likely to enter a marriage without proper economical benefits, hence a period of growth will create more girls looking for money. mostly among foreigners, but with much more self-confidence than used to be; they can now choose among the various prospects made of well-off men from the 1th world!

what is a normal thing for a colombian from estrato 1-2 or even 3, and in some social cases up to even 4-5, maybe not 6, is a huge error in the culture created by europeans.

colombians doesn't have this view that they make an error, it's not about poverty. they doesn't feel that they are harming you in a fundamental way.

the cultural and genetic components are so much stronger than the written law!

it's typical colombian. it's ok to being a racist against europeans or gringos and get away with it, something that media never would dare to tell us!

i need more time and discussion to put this into a whole, but this a beginning.

my basic thought; colombians sell themselves in colombia, and are // in // famous in other countries to just being there as prepagos, and it's true.

beauty is fundamental for the business, that is one explanation; but also the culture / genetic; they doesn't feel it's a major crime, it's like it's ok!

the families back in colombia know all about it, but negating the money that comes from their "hardworking economist daughter" is never on their minds. all are part of this societal self-deception. you as a foreigner reacts, colombians plays along.

this is also why, as hernando de soto fixed his fundamental point to, but for other fundamental reasons, that makes it hard for 3rd world countries and former communist countries to enter the motorway to "prosperity".

i would say that in eastern europe, the conditions are hard-hard. people obey and treat each other with harshness, never has a democracy worked, or conditions alike it worked on the other side of elbe!! // not true if you compare gini-coefficient though /.

and rich people are rich, poor people are poor. i say there is a genetic component that are strong, at least a cultural one, more politically correct.

latin america has the same fundamental problem; growth comes late, the rise are impressing today, but has been delayed by at least 20 years and the fundamentals has not changed at all; the whole of latin america are very vulnerable and there will be crisis, maybe at the whole "continent" simultaneously. for the moment a high growth, but still on a level around $us10.000-capita while eu has 34.500 in average. that gap must be halved to make latin america a power to count with; international affairs depend on how much you have to offer back in products, especially high-tech and we have yet not seen that "take-off" that was so classical for usa, japan, taiwan, thailand or brazil and turkey lately. just being trusted by global enterprises of take part of developing and producing high-tech is a level yet to achieve for most latin american countries; industries that give the producing country more economic feedback than the country from where the companies owners come from.

i think the progress we see today will have a swift end not to long away in the future!

argentina, a potentially economic regional power, isn't that since it's ruled by powerful families, that see to their own and their allies good. the country comes second. it's a cultural trait; argentina is simply not a country that we from the first world take for granted; it's a culture very shallow, football is a uniting cultural trait, but history or values are not so deep or creating "social capital" that is so vital for reaching that speed at which high continuously growth comes automatically.

that create even worse problems, the country is stagnating since the 60th.

back to the private property issue; i might not like gated communities, but they are a fundamental expression of how this institution function natural in the developed west, even if exaggerating here, just to make an example. ways of living in the west are very black-white, gated or formally not gated, it's an expression of our view about property.

colombians, lacking this trait, respecting the law, but doesn't have the natural urge to see everything in rights / obligations as do western people, there is a cultural / genetic trait that will create problems to move up and beyond the $us20.000 level, a classical hindrance for emerging countries, while failing to securing the rights of the growing middle class.

that pattern is cultural / genetic and is the greatest obstacle that the world has today in economics, aside the environmental issues of course. how to find a revolutionary theory as was keynes in the 1930th?

can these problems be understood to their full extent and from there the nobel prize level latin economists can start creating laws and politics that open up for a continuous high growth, without creating havoc for the upper class, since they are naturally sceptical and will ultimately bring in help from the usa if threatened to loos it's powers.

there are no real reasons why poverty must exist. communist cuba made it 1962 and onwards their proper way, giving education and health care to all the people, rising the average life expectancy from 48 to 78 years in a few decades! and this while an 100% embargo was in effect made out to bring the country on it's knees!

there must be solutions equally efficient for a market oriented economy.

colombians can learn how to respect the private property, while europeans are born into it, see life through this pattern, and therefore it's so much stronger, being an social institution, not just a legal, formal institution!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1624759]Following Hernando de Sotos writing, but he of course excludes the genetic and cultural components.

I agree with that.

But for the sake of reasoning; why are Colombian females as they are; they have an attitude towards sex & money that are the opposite of the one in the northern Europe or New England.

Colombians say that I come from a part of the world where people create something, not just make a fortune by stealing from // at the very moment // the weaker ones.

Europeans created what has become a worldwide institution; the private property.

But if genes and culture doesn't cope with our "natural" view of owning property?

Colombian females are notorious looking for sex for money and the country's prepagos are a export product that in the end brings in an enormous quantity of $$ Also fixed exportations, Colombian females marrying and living permanently might give an economic loss, but it also shows how good many Colombians can have it; being beautiful they draw a lot of attention and rich guys from all over the world are eager to marry those Ideal Latin Females...[/QUOTE]If it becomes law, Colombia may become more politically liberal.

Food for thought.

Hi,

I am headed back to CTG in Nov. Do any of you have experience with Copa airlines. They go through Panama City with less than 1 hour between connecting flights? How is that possible to go through customs that quickly. Do you frequently wind up not making the connection (it is later at night) and wind up on an early AM flight. This has happened to me before with Avianca through Bogota. A few days before the flight they contact you and say late flight cancelled, need to go in AM.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=TravelDoc10;1629486]Hi,

I am headed back to CTG in Nov. Do any of you have experience with Copa airlines. They go through Panama City with less than 1 hour between connecting flights? How is that possible to go through customs that quickly. Do you frequently wind up not making the connection (it is later at night) and wind up on an early AM flight. This has happened to me before with Avianca through Bogota. A few days before the flight they contact you and say late flight cancelled, need to go in AM.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]You should be just fine. Copa is my favorite airline and I use them when I can. Airport in Panama is easy to get from gate to gate. 10-15 minute walk from one end to the other. My layovers have been more or less an hour in the past and I make the walk from gate to gate in 5 minutes usually. No need to pass through customs as you are not staying in Panana. I highly recommend Copa flights through Panama City.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=TravelDoc10;1629486]Hi,

I am headed back to CTG in Nov. Do any of you have experience with Copa airlines. They go through Panama City with less than 1 hour between connecting flights? How is that possible to go through customs that quickly. Do you frequently wind up not making the connection (it is later at night) and wind up on an early AM flight. This has happened to me before with Avianca through Bogota. A few days before the flight they contact you and say late flight cancelled, need to go in AM.

Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]I have flown it many many times. You do not go through customs nor do you claim your bags if you have a connecting flight to Colombia.

For me this statement by SavPros is huge. I am always wondering why this and why that and SavPro provides one of the answers here.

[QUOTE=SavePros321;1632541]

Porn is not big in Colombia because if a guy there wants to bang a female HE just visits a casa or street pro. They don't need to jack off to porn. Porn is only big in countries where prostitution is illegal, like the US. I think the last time I've ever paid for a porn DVD or online subscription was 2004. There is just to much of the free shit online to ever have to spend money on it ever again.[/QUOTE]The plain fact in countries like the USA is that if you don't have a willing wife or girlfriend having sex is Illegal. If you're an average looking Joe (here in sex prison) you will have to break the law to have a little intimacy and that's getting harder to do (now) because there is more scrutiny from the PC government.

Women have the upper hand here. Nature made us all different but women in the USA don't tolerate the differences. They don't like it when men enjoy themselves sexually and so p4p here is illegal.

Everyday the noose gets tighter.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1633066]The -General Section- would be perfect for this type of Porn in Colombia debate.[/QUOTE]Haha, Ricker, you might as well let them wreck the Medellin Reports Forum.

It's futile Ricker. They just don't want to make it easy for guys who need Medellin info.

The General Info section is for extraneous bullshitting.

So anyway, how's it going these days Ricker Bro?

[QUOTE=Socker;1633506]Haha, Ricker, you might as well let them wreck the Medellin Reports Forum.

It's futile Ricker. They just don't want to make it easy for guys who need Medellin info.

The General Info section is for extraneous bullshitting.

So anyway, how's it going these days Ricker Bro?[/QUOTE]It's funny you ask.

I'm stuck in Dallas for a few days on business.

Went out to a strip club tonight.

Talked to a couple average looking strippers at best.

They said I could go to the Champagne room with the both of them, for an hour, for $1500.

Hahaha, is basically what I told them.

I'm heading back to Brazil in a couple days I said, and they looked at me like deer in the headlights. LOL.

These girls actually think they're worth that $.

Hmmmmmm.

I did get along great with the sexy chocolate waitress though.

Everytime I bought a drink, maybe 3, I gave her a nice tip, maybe $30 total.

We talked for a while and when leaving she passed me her number.

So maybe Dallas could actually get fun, LOL.

Sorry this has nothing to do with Colombia, it is general, however.

Take care amigo.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1633693]It's funny you ask.

I'm stuck in Dallas for a few days on business.

Went out to a strip club tonight.

Talked to a couple average looking strippers at best.

They said I could go to the Champagne room with the both of them, for an hour, for $1500.

Hahaha, is basically what I told them.

I'm heading back to Brazil in a couple days I said, and they looked at me like deer in the headlights. LOL.

These girls actually think they're worth that $.

Hmmmmmm.

I did get along great with the sexy chocolate waitress though..[/QUOTE]Hey Ricker,

Congrats on getting that black waitresses number. Bravo!

Here in Atlanta that is par for the course on any given night, but you don't have to go to a strip club. Hot young black women all over the place, ready to hook up, and if you're an in shape, handsome white guy it's even easier. Closest thing to Colombia. Young black women here are very friendly and open and don't mind larger age differences.

Again Congrats Ricker. Like always, you the' man!

I'll be in Medellin for 5 days next week. Is it worth renting a car from the airport?

Is it safe to drive and better than taxis?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=LuvFake;1636717]I'll be in Medellin for 5 days next week. Is it worth renting a car from the airport?

Is it safe to drive and better than taxis?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Taxis are easy and cheap. You can get them from anywhere. Drivers are friendly and cool to interact with. 5 k -15 k for ordinary distances within the city.

If using from the airport confirm the price immediately with the driver. Should be 60-70 k depending on where you are going. Use the white taxis if available. I usually tip an extra 10 k upon arrival at the apartment.

I seem to remember reading something last year about the USA Relaxing the visa requirements for Colombians in 2015. Anyone have some intell on this?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1636780]I seem to remember reading something last year about the USA Relaxing the visa requirements for Colombians in 2015. Anyone have some intell on this?[/QUOTE]No intel, but I know a lot of broke ass chicks who are still getting them. Mind you they are educated chicks and not hookers.

Voy para nueva york. Si quieres nos podemos ver alla. Piensalo y me avisas.
No gracias.
Uf que grosero.
Ya tenia tus chances.
Bueno estas que te mueres por verme y me dices que no.Tu te lo pierdes.
La vida es asi!
Si tu no quierea hay muchos hombres.Tu no eres el unico.

[QUOTE=LuvFake;1636717]I'll be in Medellin for 5 days next week. Is it worth renting a car from the airport?

Is it safe to drive and better than taxis?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Guess the question is why? In only a 5 day trip you won't have enough time to see the city much less checking out the neighbouring small towns. Save the driving to the cheap cab drivers. Have a few drinks and enjoy yourself. Hell I'm going for 5 weeks in 10 days and wouldn't think of renting a car. I enjoy the idea of not having to worry about driving. May rent a motorcycle to go check out the countryside for a couple days. But in the city. Check out the metro a couple times a grab a cab. IMHO.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1636780]I seem to remember reading something last year about the USA Relaxing the visa requirements for Colombians in 2015. Anyone have some intell on this?[/QUOTE]Colombia has been lobbying the US for a waiver on visas for Colombians, but the US isn't even considering it at this time. The US Embassy has been more generous in the past though, regarding giving tourist visas to Colombians as the other poster stated.

I believe that in 2015 Colombians will not be required to have a visa to visit most European countries.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1636817]No intel, but I know a lot of broke ass chicks who are still getting them. Mind you they are educated chicks and not hookers.

Voy para nueva york. Si quieres nos podemos ver alla. Piensalo y me avisas.
No gracias.
Uf que grosero.
Ya tenia tus chances.
Bueno estas que te mueres por verme y me dices que no.Tu te lo pierdes.
La vida es asi!
Si tu no quierea hay muchos hombres.Tu no eres el unico.[/QUOTE]I've had a few amigas get show down and her moms has one and her daughter. The reason she was told was that her mom stayed longer than the X days she was allowed or some junk like that.

Two others shot down for other reason not discussed. Looks like ATM the the rules are still hard to earn.

Is this a transcript from a FB chat or something?

[QUOTE=LuvFake;1636717]I'll be in Medellin for 5 days next week. Is it worth renting a car from the airport?

Is it safe to drive and better than taxis?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No, just stick with the taxis. It is not better than taxis, taxis are cheap. Medellin is not a place to be driving your car, someone else's car, or any car. Best left to the professionals.

Give me her # Mr. E- I'll see her! LOL.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1636817]No intel, but I know a lot of broke ass chicks who are still getting them. Mind you they are educated chicks and not hookers.

Voy para nueva york. Si quieres nos podemos ver alla. Piensalo y me avisas.
No gracias.
Uf que grosero.
Ya tenia tus chances.
Bueno estas que te mueres por verme y me dices que no.Tu te lo pierdes.
La vida es asi!
Si tu no quierea hay muchos hombres.Tu no eres el unico.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1636842]I've had a few amigas get show down and her moms has one and her daughter. The reason she was told was that her mom stayed longer than the X days she was allowed or some junk like that.

Two others shot down for other reason not discussed. Looks like ATM the the rules are still hard to earn.

Is this a transcript from a FB chat or something?[/QUOTE]It was from whatsapp the other day. A chick that I used to mess with in Barranquilla. We have been knowing each other 6 years. I was introduced to her by a friend in Bogota who is from Barranquilla, who is actually in the States right now.

I was going to be a nice guy and let the chick come stay in my house while she studied English. The problem was that she would need to send money back for the care of her daughter. I told her that she could do chores around the house and cook and I would give her $200/ month to send. Mind you I'm only there about 4 days/month anyway. (I would have stayed there more if she had come.) It went from her buying her ticket, to me paying for half her ticket, to me buying all of her ticket, to me laughing my ass off because there was no way that shit was happening.

She finished her degree in July and was supposed to come then. Come to think of it, another chick I know from Barranquilla has a visa as well. Maybe it is something to do with the coast.

Anyone have any information on how to book reservations online with this airlines? When I get to the part of paying, it will not accept any of my credit cards (which all have $0 balances on them, so it's not a credit issue). I believe it has to do something with the payment gateway interface, so I was wondering if anyone found a way around this? If needing to get a Colombian credit card, is it possible to do before arriving to Colombia?

[QUOTE=Bijou;1640534]Anyone have any information on how to book reservations online with this airlines? When I get to the part of paying, it will not accept any of my credit cards (which all have $0 balances on them, so it's not a credit issue). I believe it has to do something with the payment gateway interface, so I was wondering if anyone found a way around this?[/QUOTE]Use a different browser.

[QUOTE=Bijou;1640534]Anyone have any information on how to book reservations online with this airlines? When I get to the part of paying, it will not accept any of my credit cards (which all have $0 balances on them, so it's not a credit issue). I believe it has to do something with the payment gateway interface, so I was wondering if anyone found a way around this? If needing to get a Colombian credit card, is it possible to do before arriving to Colombia?[/QUOTE]Yo! I had an issue ith Satena or Avianca. It was a browser issue. So maybe update or use a different browser?

I've never booked on Viva. If they have a Country option on their home page select Colombia vs USA?

[QUOTE=Bijou;1640534]Anyone have any information on how to book reservations online with this airlines? When I get to the part of paying, it will not accept any of my credit cards (which all have $0 balances on them, so it's not a credit issue). I believe it has to do something with the payment gateway interface, so I was wondering if anyone found a way around this? If needing to get a Colombian credit card, is it possible to do before arriving to Colombia?[/QUOTE]I have no trouble with Firefox, try it if you are using another. Viva Colombia gives you the option of using the Colombia site or other country site. I booked a flight 2 months ago and the cost paying in pesos on the colombian site versus using the other country site and paying in $ was nearly one half less. I was using a Canadian Bank visa card, my statement showed debited in pesos then converted to $cad. Colombian credit card very difficult to obtain even if living in Colombia.

[QUOTE=Bart1;1640816]I have no trouble with Firefox, try it if you are using another. Viva Colombia gives you the option of using the Colombia site or other country site. I booked a flight 2 months ago and the cost paying in pesos on the colombian site versus using the other country site and paying in $ was nearly one half less. I was using a Canadian Bank visa card, my statement showed debited in pesos then converted to $cad. Colombian credit card very difficult to obtain even if living in Colombia.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I believe that I previously tried with different browsers to include IE, Chrome, and Firefox. I also tried going though the Colombian site, but still had the same problem. My friend (also in US) had same problems, but I will try again. I just have a feeling it has something to do with US credit cards. I will try again and will report. Thanks.

Call them!

[QUOTE=Bijou;1640830]Thanks for the advice. I believe that I previously tried with different browsers to include IE, Chrome, and Firefox. I also tried going though the Colombian site, but still had the same problem. My friend (also in US) had same problems, but I will try again. I just have a feeling it has something to do with US credit cards. I will try again and will report. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

It's not possible to buy a ticket using a credit card issued by a US bank. I know because I tried. It is the same problem in Peru with their domestic airlines. However, it is more problematic with Viva because unlike Peruvian airlines, they do not have offices to buy tickets. I did find a travel agency in Cali to buy a ticket to Medellin but most agencies do not sell tickets for Viva. Their website says to buy a ticket at their airport office at least four hours before their scheduled flight.

I went to the office two hours before my flight as I had a ticket already purchased at the above Cali travel agency and noticed their airport office was closed. So, in short, they are not user friendly for non-Colombians.

One time I got lucky and found an inexpensive flight with Avianca from MDE to Santa Marta and used my US credit card without a problem.

[QUOTE=Bijou;1640534]Anyone have any information on how to book reservations online with this airlines? When I get to the part of paying, it will not accept any of my credit cards (which all have $0 balances on them, so it's not a credit issue). I believe it has to do something with the payment gateway interface, so I was wondering if anyone found a way around this? If needing to get a Colombian credit card, is it possible to do before arriving to Colombia?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LuvFake;1636717]I'll be in Medellin for 5 days next week. Is it worth renting a car from the airport?

Is it safe to drive and better than taxis?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I would not recommend renting a car with a city that has so many other transportation options. Medellin has an excellent transportation system with what people called busetas that do travel within the city to many neighborhoods every day, early morning to late evenings and less than 2 USA, there is train called El Metro also travel daily early morning till 1030 pm and is less than 2 dollars a ride and which travel north, south, west, and east of Medellin, super safe, quick and reliable. There are yellow taxis in the city and are not that expensive. I never used them cause I don't like to take take taxis in any country, but people told me were cheap and you could see them everywhere. There is also a buseta at the airport that can take you to the city center and makes two stops (San Diego Mall and the City Center near Nutibara Hotel) for about $4. 50 dollars). The busetas in the airport are very comfortable buses and are pretty reliable and they leaves the airport to the city every 30 minutes. The taxis from the airport to the City are expensive or over $50 dollars cause it is a long ride to the city. It is best to take the busetas to the city and from there take a taxe to your Hotel.

There is a tourist information desk at the Medellin airport and they can give you information or direct you to.

Different transportation options. Also I only recommend the buseta option if you travel light. If you have large luggages, no, then you must take a taxi or rent the car (and pray the car does not get stolen or you get into.

An accident in a foreign country).

Hi guys,

I'm a 30 years old German and new to this forum. I saved up all my holidays this year to go for a bigger trip in January, February or March 2015. What I'm searching for is not a total sex holiday: I've seen places like Pattaya already, but I didn't really like them. Instead I had my best times in other places (Cebu, Phuket, Taipei, Singapore) with non-sexworker girls. It's something like that again I'm trying to find, paysex is just supposed to be a puzzle part in it or the fallback plan in case nothing else is working out. I know it's more difficult to get the normal girls, but I'm gladly investing some time hitting on exotic Asians or Latinas compared to an awful flirt with a German girl. First I was thinking about Vietnam and Cambodia because I've been to some the places in South East Asia and love it there. But now I decided to check out some place in Latin America first because:

1. I've never been to any american country at all and I am excited about it.

2. I speak mediocre Spanish already which gives me hope that I might have a more intense and fulfilling holiday than in Asia because the language barrier is high there.

What I was thinking about was taking a trip to DomRep and Cuba (each about 2 weeks). Reasons: Caribbean islands, hot girls, affordable prices, relatively high security level.

But now I was surprise checking some pics of Colombian girls and I seem to like them better. Security level there makes me worry a bit though. Since I keep on reading and reading I get more and more confused about where to go. I think reading more travel reviews will make it even worse. Maybe you can help me by answering some of my questions to give me a direction.

Which country would you recommend for me as total America newbie? (Spanish or English speaking, low prices, low chance of robberies or weapon shit). Is Columbia a good choice then?

Which countries do you get the best value for money? I guess high English level makes countries more expensive in general. Am I right with Cuba, DomRep and Columbia already?

I read about Medellin and Sosa for example as sex paradises. Maybe I should check one of these as introduction for my holiday, but then which are the places to go if I want to get hot and easy non-sexworkers as well? In the past I have good experiences with bigger cities because you can find more open-minded girls than in villages or sex tourism places where they all expect money. But maybe smaller places are OK in Latin America if you speak Spanish? I don't know. In Phuket I was able to find both.

My impression from the pics was that the Colombian girls have generally lighter skins, more variation in hair types, more beautiful faces (I know that's a very individual point) and better shaped bodies than in Cuba and DomRep. Is it true in average or am I totally wrong and biased by the pics? How about the amount of fatties in these countries?

Hope you can help me a bit because I'm running out of time with my plannings and still too indecisive. I will reward you with an enthralling holiday review.

Best regards.

Wigolon.

If you're looking for non-pros more than pros, I probably wouldn't spend significant time in Medellin or Cartagena. The girls in those two cities are quite used to foreign men and getting non-pros can be tough. Yes, Colombian women, on average, are lighter-skinned than Cubanas or Dominicanas. But there are still plenty of dark / African descent chicas in Colombia.

As far as bodies, it's a matter of opinion. I personally think Cubanas and maybe Dominicanas have better NATURAL bodies than the Colombianas. Alot of the Colombian chicas with hot-looking bodies have silicone "augmentation. ".

Safety is generally not a huge issue in Colombia, as long as you exercise normal precaution. I would say DR is more dangerous, though I've never had a problem there.

Is travelling in comfort real important to you? If you don't need super luxury, I might do Cuba. It's the safest out of the places you mentioned. And you don't have the hassles that us and. Americans do in visiting. And it's a very interesting place to visit aside from the mongering.

Forget about Sosua -- it is very overrated. Numerous curvy naturally beautiful women that provide poor service.

Strongly suggest reading the forums and go to Colombia.

Combo: thanks a lot for that post, very helpful.

On Colombia:

I understand that it's probably hard to get non-pros in Medellin or Cartagena. Any places that you could recommend instead? How about Bogota? Or should I head for the smaller cities?

On Cuba / DR:

Thanks for the Cuba arguments. No, luxury is not important for me. The only luxurious thing I really found worth paying more for in SEA was aircon. Anyway, from what I read it's not THAT hot and humid as it is in Singapore (quite difficult to get a relaxing sleep without it there). So I guess I can do without aircon in the Caribbean.

It's certainly a plus if there's a lot to see besides mongering Cuba. BTW I read even in Puerto Plata there's a lot of other stuff to do. Another big plus for Cuba and DR that I found out today is that they offer non-stop flights from Berlin to Cuba (Varadero) and DR (Puerto Plata, Punta Cana). That's great because I really hate stops on long distance flights. I guess Punta Cana is not really the place to go though because it seems to be a total family tourism place.

However, your arguments support my plan of considering Cuba as a good destination. I'm still thinking about a holiday split because I have a whole month. So maybe 2 weeks Cuba and 2 weeks DR. Or instead of DR 2 weeks Columbia maybe. The flight could become a really expensive part in this one though. On the other hand, I would have to fly to DR anyway because surprisingly there are no ferries at all serving between Cuba and DR.

On Other countries:

My research about the other countries: I already sorted out Costa Rica (expensive), Venezuela (crazy and dangerous), Brazil (Portuguese). What I cannot judge on are Panama, Ecuador and Peru. All I know is that Colombians are supposed to be hotter. I'm not a fan of silicon either though. Is there a place with the looks of Colombian girls but less augmentation?

Shamester: Can you be a little more specific? What is it that makes Columbia so much better? Girls giving better performance for money or anything else as well?

[URL]www.argentinaprivate.com[/URL]

[QUOTE=Shamester;1643126]Forget about Sosua -- it is very overrated. Numerous curvy naturally beautiful women that provide poor service.

Strongly suggest reading the forums and go to Colombia.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1642897]Hi guys,

I'm a 30 years old German and new to this forum. I saved up all my holidays this year to go for a bigger trip in January, February or March 2015. What I'm searching for is not a total sex holiday: I've seen places like Pattaya already, but I didn't really like them. Instead I had my best times in other places (Cebu, Phuket, Taipei, Singapore) with non-sexworker girls. It's something like that again I'm trying to find, paysex is just supposed to be a puzzle part in it or the fallback plan in case nothing else is working out. I know it's more difficult to get the normal girls, but I'm gladly investing some time hitting on exotic Asians or Latinas compared to an awful flirt with a German girl. First I was thinking about Vietnam and Cambodia because I've been to some the places in South East Asia and love it there. But now I decided to check out some place in Latin America first because:

1. I've never been to any american country at all and I am excited about it.

2. I speak mediocre Spanish already which gives me hope that I might have a more intense and fulfilling holiday than in Asia because the language barrier is high there.

What I was thinking about was taking a trip to DomRep and Cuba (each about 2 weeks). Reasons: Caribbean islands, hot girls, affordable prices, relatively high security level..[/QUOTE]You need to go to cities and towns off the map, Colombia has a ton of them.

If you are looking for normal girls, good places are towns 1 or 2 hours from Cali, or in Huila.

Girls are not used to seeing gringos here, so fairly easy to pick up. A little Spanish speaking will help.

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1643287]You need to go to cities and towns off the map, Colombia has a ton of them.

If you are looking for normal girls, good places are towns 1 or 2 hours from Cali, or in Huila.

Girls are not used to seeing gringos here, so fairly easy to pick up. A little Spanish speaking will help.[/QUOTE]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.

This is in Colombia?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1643288]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.[/QUOTE]

Based on your comments and insecurities, I would recommend Medellin over Sosua. I would not pick Cuba asa place because prostitution is not legal there. Medellin and Sosua are both sex paradises as you said. But they are both different experiences. Sosua is a poor town, but it has an amazing clear beach and there are bitches everywhere at night time. Medellin is an amazing mountain town, but there is no beach. The Dominican women are more of the hustlers type and they will often ask for extra favors, take your shampoo, deodorant, condos's if you let them. The DR girls will make you feel sorry for them and ask you in their misery poor lives and said "papy can I have those condoms since you are leaving, can I have that coconut oil, the baselin, that extra phone you have, etc, etc. I find the Dominican more affectionate than the Colombian thought and more easy to find GF experience than Colombians but this varies from person to person. The Colombian women in Medellin are less hustlers type and you find more lighter skin women than the DR. Lots of black and Haitian women in the DR. You are right about many of you assumptions in regard to the looks of Colombian women. The pictures don't lie. They are hot. In Medellin, is where you find the most beautiful Colombian women (and this coming from me a Dominican born guy). Colombian women are obsessed with their bodies and they take good care of the body and many are fit and go to gyms and enhance their features with surgery cause of these body obsession. The Dominicans not so much, but you find fatties and thin women in both countries. If you are looking for a girlfriend, you will find them anywhere if that is what you are looking for and if it it is P4 P the Sosua and Medellin are great destinations. Medellin is not what it used to be in regards to violence and crime. It much safer than the past. The DR has a lot of crime too, so does NY, Chicago, London, Thailand, India, Brazil, Mexico, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Russia, etc. Crime exist anywhere in the world and just like in any major big city of the world you just have to apply common sense and be careful. Don't worry about your mediocre Spanish. Some is helpful, but take the trip as an opportunity to improve it and take lessons from the locals. Both Medellin and Sosua will give you great value for your money. In any case, don't break your head trying to make a decision. Just pick the place that is giving you the greatest urge to go, and book a flight. If it is Medellin or Sosua, there are a lot of resources in this board you can check.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1642897]Hi guys,

I'm a 30 years old German and new to this forum. I saved up all my holidays this year to go for a bigger trip in January, February or March 2015. What I'm searching for is not a total sex holiday: I've seen places like Pattaya already, but I didn't really like them. Instead I had my best times in other places (Cebu, Phuket, Taipei, Singapore) with non-sexworker girls. It's something like that again I'm trying to find, paysex is just supposed to be a puzzle part in it or the fallback plan in case nothing else is working out. I know it's more difficult to get the normal girls, but I'm gladly investing some time hitting on exotic Asians or Latinas compared to an awful flirt with a German girl. First I was thinking about Vietnam and Cambodia because I've been to some the places in South East Asia and love it there. But now I decided to check out some place in Latin America first because:

1. I've never been to any american country at all and I am excited about it.

2. I speak mediocre Spanish already which gives me hope that I might have a more intense and fulfilling holiday than in Asia because the language barrier is high there..[/QUOTE]

Cerebro,

I'm glad you said dominicanas are more affectionate than colombianas. I hope so for my sake.

I disagree with your take on Cuba. It's ilegal on paper but very tolerated by gov. And widely accepted by society. And I'll take cubanas over colombianas any time! So legality is a non-issue. Just stay out of Havana!

But Medellin is the most pleasant town I've ever lived in. Perfect incouraging weather, great healthy food options EVRYWHERE. Great transportation options. And very economic cost of living. Just no beaches!

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1643387]Based on your comments and insecurities, I would recommend Medellin over Sosua. I would not pick Cuba asa place because prostitution is not legal there. Medellin and Sosua are both sex paradises as you said. But they are both different experiences. Sosua is a poor town, t used to be in regards to violence and crime. It much safer than the past. The DR has a lot of crime too, so does NY, Chi...... check.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1643700]Cerebro,

I'm glad you said dominicanas are more affectionate than colombianas. I hope so for my sake.

I disagree with your take on Cuba. It's ilegal on paper but very tolerated by gov. And widely accepted by society. And I'll take cubanas over colombianas any time! So legality is a non-issue. Just stay out of Havana!

But Medellin is the most pleasant town I've ever lived in. Perfect incouraging weather, great healthy food options EVRYWHERE. Great transportation options. And very economic cost of living. Just no beaches![/QUOTE]Well, I BrazilsoccerO, I will disagree with you with some of your comments about Cuba. I think prostitution is widely spread there, but it does not mean that is widely accepted. Just like in Colombia and Dr. Where it is legal, it is also widespread, but it does not make it or means that it is widely accepted by society. I don't know much about the government being tolerant about it, but if they are so tolerant about it why don't they make it legal? Another problem with traveling to Cuba at least from the USA is that it is Communist country and according to the US Department of State "Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction". I would not argue with that. I can take easily a plane to Cuba from the USA, but upon my return how.

Do I explain to US Immigration officials what I was doing in Cuba and that I am not.

Breaking the law? There are too many potential problems for USA Citizens for traveling to Cuba. For that reason alone, I take Cuba out of my mongering list of countries even those jjineteras as they call the bitches are amazing beautiful. Another thought, lets say you get arrested in Cuba for being with a prostitute where this trade is "illegal on paper", how do you explain in a Cuban court of law that you are not breaking the law?

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1643288]I hear Paida or how ever you call it is AwwesOme for non pros and even regular girls.[/QUOTE]I pronounce it Pea-a-da. Anyway I met a girl from Pereira and she was awesome. 28 years old 1 kid and a killer natural body. I met her on LAC. She was staying in Bogota trying to find work, well she found work. With me She met me 3 times at my apartment early afternoon to late at night. We went out for dinner all 3 nights and had girlfriend sex too many times to count but we never discussed any type of payment. Sunday, I found myself strolling the closed highway with her and her daughter with all the other families, having ice cream ect. It was fun jajajja The night before I left she asked me to call her everyday and to keep in touch because she wanted to have a serious relationship and would wait for my return. At the time I was going to Bogota once every 6 weeks or so. She never once asked for money but I took good care of her for the 3 days we were together. I gave her some perfume and a Lancme makeup kit, lots of restaurants. One of my favorites is Andre's Carne in Chia. I then tried to give her $300 which she initially refused but soon accepted when I told her "I know your not prepago but I want you get something nice for your hija" LOL I love this type of trip. I'm not sure if she works this angle with every American who visits or not but it made for a great trip for me.

To travel to Cuba, Fly to Cancun then to La Havana. Cuba don't stamp your passport.

Cuban, police will not arrest you, they will arrest the Jinetera.

My two Pesos.

Just chilling here in Cancun.

Kukulkan

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1643764]Well, I BrazilsoccerO, I will disagree with you with some of your comments about Cuba. I think prostitution is widely spread there, but it does not mean that is widely accepted. Just like in Colombia and Dr. Where it is legal, it is also widespread, but it does not make it or means that it is widely accepted by society. I don't know much about the government being tolerant about it, but if they are so tolerant about it why don't they make it legal? Another problem with traveling to Cuba at least from the USA is that it is Communist country and according to the US Department of State "Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction". I would not argue with that. I can take easily a plane to Cuba from the USA, but upon my return how.

Do I explain to US Immigration officials what I was doing in Cuba and that I am not.

Breaking the law? There are too many potential problems for USA Citizens for traveling to Cuba. For that reason alone, I take Cuba out of my mongering list of countries even those jjineteras as they call the bitches are amazing beautiful. Another thought, lets say you get arrested in Cuba for being with a prostitute where this trade is "illegal on paper", how do you explain in a Cuban court of law that you are not breaking the law?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1644431]
Pereira

I pronounce it Pea-a-da...[/QUOTE]Why do you pronpounce it like that?

How about the "r"s?

They're not silent, LOL.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1645267]Why do you pronpounce it like that?

How about the "r"s?

They're not silent, LOL.[/QUOTE]That is funny- I had no idea what he was on about.

[QUOTE=Kukulkan;1645147]To travel to Cuba, Fly to Cancun then to La Havana. Cuba don't stamp your passport.

Cuban, police will not arrest you, they will arrest the Jinetera.

My two Pesos.

Just chilling here in Cancun.

Kukulkan[/QUOTE]Thank you Kukulma. So to get the Jineteras, I have to travel from USA to Mexico then to Cuba and that way avoid the USA radar. Sounds to me like cocaine trafficking and flying close to the water to avoid radar detention. Also, two plane tickets to by to get to Cuba and hope that my USA passport does not get stamp by a Cuban official. I think that is crazy. I would rather stay in Mexico fucking the bitches there. Even if the passport does not get stamp in Cuba, I think it is a terrible risk to take when traveling to Cuba. USA Citizens are prohibited to travel to Cuba as tourist. Just think if by any chance (e. G. An unfortunate accident or a police or hooker set up you end up in a Cuban jail), do you think the US will help you in getting you out of there when you are not supposed to be there in the first place? And what are you going to say that you were doing in Cuba? They can keep you in jail in Cuba forever by just accusing you as a Gringo spy. When the USA stops the restrictions to traveling to Cuba or it becomes legal to travel there, then I will travel and ride the lovely Jineteras.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1646815]Thank you Kukulma. So to get the Jineteras, I have to travel from USA to Mexico then to Cuba and that way avoid the USA radar. Sounds to me like cocaine trafficking and flying close to the water to avoid radar detention. Also, two plane tickets to by to get to Cuba and hope that my USA passport does not get stamp by a Cuban official. I think that is crazy. I would rather stay in Mexico fucking the bitches there. Even if the passport does not get stamp in Cuba, I think it is a terrible risk to take when traveling to Cuba. USA Citizens are prohibited to travel to Cuba as tourist. Just think if by any chance (e. G. An unfortunate accident or a police or hooker set up you end up in a Cuban jail), do you think the US will help you in getting you out of there when you are not supposed to be there in the first place? And what are you going to say that you were doing in Cuba? They can keep you in jail in Cuba forever by just accusing you as a Gringo spy. When the USA stops the restrictions to traveling to Cuba or it becomes legal to travel there, then I will travel and ride the lovely Jineteras.[/QUOTE]It is NOT illegal for a USA Citizen to go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to do business with Cuba or a USA Business to conduct business with Cuba. Therefore an airline cannot travel directly to Cuba and a USA Citizen can not buy a ticket in the USA To go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to buy Cuban made goods and bring them into the USA..The problem is as you pointed out, if you go to Cuba and you find yourself in trouble of any kind or need help you are shit out of luck.

Cerebro:

Thanks for your opinion! Actually after I read more about Cuba now, I've become really unsure if I still want to go there. I mean it's most probably nice to experience that Cuban 50's-like lifestyle (though I'm neither a fan of old timers nor cigars) with all the hot girls of different races around. But though it's apparently possible to get chicas into certain casa particulares or some hotels where they allow one girl, I totally don't like the thought that you cannot walk around freely and without worries together with a girl there: I don't want to get annoyed by security or police because I'm walking with a Cubana, for me it's an important part of the holiday to do that. Not only staying inside the safe room. I don't like this jail lifestyle. Furthermore I don't want to be responsible for the girl's destiny if they catch her for being with a tourist and throw her into real jail. And I guess all of this shit can happen even with non-hookers. (One of the sources: Google "Sex in Cuba: 5 Tips for Hooking Up".

Another con for Cuba is the long travelling distance. I would fly in directly from Germany to Varadero (only option, everything else is indirect and very expensive). And if I want to see Santiago de Cuba as well, I'd have to take an 815 km long trip to go there from Varadero, just to take even more than the same distance back to Havana which is the only place I can fly to Colombia from. The alternative would be to skip Santiago and the whole east of Cuba, but I'm not sure if it's worth the 2 weeks stay then.

What adds up are the other things you need to accept due to the poverty: boring food and rooms without luxury are ok for me, but big difficulties to find internet is a pain in the ass, especially for further planning of the trip. Anyway censored is actually something that I can hardly accept.

Colombia is currently my favorite destination. Thanks for the tip on Pareira by the way.

So I'm still desperate about finalizing my flight plans. Current mood says drop Cuba and take DR in again as first destination. Then I don't have all of the listed cons (few food choices, no internet, police crap, long travelling distances). And incredibly cheap flight from Germany to Puerto Plata. Then flight from Santo Domingo to Bogotá. On the other hand. Maybe it's not possible to travel around safely like it is in Cuba, so maybe the argument for walking around freely with a chica doesn't even apply? What do you think? Better choice than Cuba?

[QUOTE=Manizales911;1646858]It is NOT illegal for a USA Citizen to go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to do business with Cuba or a USA Business to conduct business with Cuba. Therefore an airline cannot travel directly to Cuba and a USA Citizen can not buy a ticket in the USA To go to Cuba. It is illegal for a USA Citizen to buy Cuban made goods and bring them into the USA..The problem is as you pointed out, if you go to Cuba and you find yourself in trouble of any kind or need help you are shit out of luck.[/QUOTE]Manizales911,

Thanks for the additional information about the legality for USA Citizens to go to Cuba. I still stand from what I said, thatit is prohibited for USA Citizens to travel to Cuba. If not, why you can't fly from the USA and instead have to go to Mexico. Some even go to great lenghts to get a Mexican passport to pretend to be Mexicans and not get their USA Passport stamped? Also, on your note.

That it is okay to travel but not to do any business with Cuba. How can you prevent not doing any business? Aren't we doing business with Cuba when we book flight to Cuba, book a hotel, charge a credit card, buy food in Cuban restaurant or supermarket, conduct a P4 P business transaction with a jinetera, etc, etc. I think People from the USA that go to Cuba are putting themselves at a huge risk for violating USA law. I took the information of the prohibition from the Department of State website: [URL]http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/country/cuba.html[/URL].

The following is noted:

TOURIST VISA REQUIRED:

Tourist travel to Cuba is prohibited under USA Law for USA Citizens and others under USA Jurisdiction.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1646975]Cerebro:

So I'm still desperate about finalizing my flight plans. Current mood says drop Cuba and take DR in again as first destination. Then I don't have all of the listed cons (few food choices, no internet, police crap, long travelling distances). And incredibly cheap flight from Germany to Puerto Plata. Then flight from Santo Domingo to Bogot. On the other hand. Maybe it's not possible to travel around safely like it is in Cuba, so maybe the argument for walking around freely with a chica doesn't even apply? What do you think? Better choice than Cuba?[/QUOTE]Wigolon,

As A USA Citizen, my views on traveling to Cuba are rather bias because of the restrictions that we have to travel there. I can.

Not really comment on the Cuban Jineteras because I have never been to Cuba. So your idea of going to DR and / or Colombia seems best to me. Both countries will give you great value for your money. To me is about the same cost. If you go to DR, take a flight to Puerto Plata airport and stay in Sosua. Don't go to Punta Cana is more for family tourism. Sosua is a beach town located in the same municipality of Puerto Plata so it is not to far from the airport. It is were the best chicas and P4 P action in the DR. Chicas from all over the Dominican Republic go to Sosua, so it is where you will find the most variety and beautiful women. There are a lot of dark skin Dominican and Haitians Chicas there if you like the morenas and big booties. There are not that many white Dominicans and they are the minority. P4P is negotiable and ranges from $30 to $50 for 1-2 hours. The Haitians tend to be cheaper. Sosua has a beautiful clear water beach. The weather is hot and humid all year long. Please note that there are a lot hustlers including the chicas in most touristic towns including as this is a sort of a way of life there. Dominican women are more desperate financially than the Colombians so they tend to be very needed and they will make you feel sorry for them and ask you often for extra money for their babies, for taxi, for your personal items. Therefore, you have to be firm and say I am sorry but can't give the items you requested because you need that cream, the shampoo, the shavers, the condoms, etc. They are also tend to be very affectionate and that is part of their Hustling charm which makes it difficult for many man to say no when they ask for extras. Also, Sosua is a typical ghetto Dominican town, very poor and with many delinquents. So you always have to be cautious whenever you go out, but being cautious applies to being anywhere in the world you go. In Sosua, you must find a chica friendly hotel or Aparta hotel near the beach and the main strip to reduce the walking at night by yourself or taking taxis or motoconchos. You need a chica friendly place to to bring your chica because there are not that many places where you could do the fucking in. That is more for the casas in Colombia. Here is an aparta hotel near the beach and strip and not too expensive or about $50 per night / studio: [URL]http://perladesosua.com/.[/URL] There is also a small surfing town called Cabarette next to Sosua that has a nice beach strip with lots of nice bars and restaurants and many chicas at night. I stayed in the.

Cabarette town last August and found a nice beach front apartment for $30 per night [URL]http://sanssoucicabarete.com/.[/URL] If you decide to go to Colombia, I would recommend Medellin over Bogota. The general consensus is that the people from Bogota are not as friendly as in Medellin and are more snobby. Medellin is located way up in the mountains. No beach is the only negative I could think of. The weather in Medellin is Spring all year long. It is a cosmopolitan and great beautiful city. The women are absolutely beautiful. They are not as needed as the Dominican and they are less hustlers or don't ask much for extras. In the bars and clubs and some strip clubs, you have to approach them. Not like in the DR where they are hunters and will approach you often. Many white Colombian women in Medellin and not too many black women. If you like black women, you won't like Medellin cause they are the minorities, the reverse of the DR. Prices from the chicas ranges from $15 to $75 for 30 min to 2 hours and depending on the place and service. You have many options of where to stay. You could rent a studio apt with 1) board member Aunsa at the town of Laureles for $35 dollar and up a night and he offers help in orienting you to places in Medellin. I also found a nice apartment in Laureles for $30 per nigh.

2) [URL]http://tuapartamentomde.com/[/URL] or you could rent with another board member 3) [URL]http://www.colombiajake.com/[/URL] for $35 per night and and he also has tours to the casas and offers services like hooking up with Colombian women. I never tried Colombiajake but perhaps in my next trip to Medellin, I will book with him. There is another board member (Bbrocs) who rents apartment in the poblado area near parque Lleras beginning at $70 per night 3) [URL]http://www.pobladorentals.com/index.php?f=2&mid=1.[/URL] You can also book for a few days at the famous mongering place hotel casa blanca / la mansion. Recommended by many board members and for newbies who want mongering support and chicas on site. This place has changed names many times and is now called 5) hotel medellin [URL]http://www.hotelmedellinm.com/.[/URL] Good luck with your trip. And don't forget to write a report on your adventure.

Americans can travel Legally to Cuba and also spend money there but have to acquire a 'license'.
Here are the current different licenses on the Government site that I copied.

General Licenses.
The Regulations currently contain eight general licenses authorizing travel-related transactions involving Cuba. General licenses constitute blanket authorization for those transactions set forth in the relevant regulation. No further permission from OFAC is required to engage in transactions covered by a general license. Individuals wishing to engage in the following activities involving Cuba should first review the general license contained in the Regulations to determine whether their travel-related transactions are covered by a general license:

1) visiting "close relatives" who are nationals of Cuba or visiting "close relatives" who are USA Government employees assigned to the USA Interests Section in Havana, Cuba;.
2) official business travel by officials of the USA Government, foreign governments, or Intergovernmental organizations of which the United States is a member;.
3) journalistic activities by persons regularly employed as journalists by a news reporting Organization or by persons regularly employed as supporting broadcast or technical Personnel;.
4) professional research conducted by full-time professionals in their professional areas Attendance at certain professional meetings or conferences organized by international Professional organizations, or participation in certain telecommunications-related Professional meetings;.
5) educational activities by faculty, staff, and students of accredited USA Graduate and Undergraduate degree-granting academic institutions;.
6) religious activities under the auspices of a religious organization located in the United States;.
7) the commercial marketing, sales negotiation, accompanied delivery, or servicing in Cuba of telecommunications-related items that have been authorized for commercial export or( Revised 6 May 10,2012.) Re-export by employees of, or an entity duly appointed to represent, a telecommunications services provider;.
8) the commercial marketing, sales negotiation, accompanied delivery, or servicing in Cuba of agricultural commodities, medicine, or medical devices by employees of a producer or Distributor or an entity duly appointed to represent a producer or distributor Specific licenses are not issued for transactions that are authorized pursuant to the provisions of a General license. Those individuals who determine that their activities are Authorized by a general license must be able to document that their travel qualifies under that general License and must keep records that are required to be furnished to OFAC or other law enforcement Officials (e. G. , USA Customs and Border Protection) upon demand for a period of five years after the Travel transactions take place.

Specific Licenses:

OFAC will consider the issuance of specific licenses on a case-by-case basis to permit travel-related Transactions where the proposed activity is not covered by a general license but is addressed by one of The statements of licensing policy listed in section 515.560 (a) and set forth in related sections of the Regulations.
A specific license applicant must wait for OFAC to issue the license prior to engaging in Travel-related transactions.
Individuals wishing to engage in the following travel-related transactions involving Cuba should first Review the specific license policies to determine whether their activities may qualify for a specific License:

1) visiting a close relative who is neither a national of Cuba nor a USA Government employee Assigned to the USA Interests Section in Havana, Cuba;.
2) journalistic activities for a free-lance journalistic project;.
3) professional research and professional meetings that do not qualify for the general license.
4) academic educational activities not authorized by the general license for accredited USA Graduate or undergraduate degree-granting academic institutions.
5) educational exchanges not involving academic study pursuant to a degree program and that Take place under the auspices of an organization that promotes people-to-people contact.
6) academic seminars, conferences, and workshops related to Cuba or global issues involving Cuba and sponsored or co-sponsored by the traveler's accredited USA Graduate or Undergraduate academic institution;.
7) religious activities not authorized by the general license for religious organizations located In the United States (Revised 7 May 10,2012.)
8) athletic competitions by amateur or semi-professional athletes or teams selected by the Relevant USA Federation;.
9) participation in a public performance, clinic, workshop, other athletic or non-athletic Competition, or exhibition in Cuba;.
10) activities intended to provide support for the Cuban people;.
11) humanitarian projects in or related to Cuba designed to directly benefit the Cuban people.
12) activities by private foundations or research or educational institutes that have an Established interest in international relations to collect information related to Cuba for Noncommercial purposes,
13) activities related to the exportation, importation, or transmission of information or Informational materials;.
14) the marketing, sales negotiation, accompanied delivery, or servicing in Cuba of exports That appear consistent with the export or re-export licensing policy of the Department of Commerce and that are not authorized by a general license; and
15) the marketing, sales negotiation, accompanied delivery, or servicing of medicine, medical Supplies, or certain telecommunications equipment by a USA -owned or -controlled firm in A third country to Cuba.

I applied for a license about 10 years ago and was rejected and hence I took a flight from Mexico to Havana. The travel company in MX provided the visa and medical insurance too. Cuba will not stamp your passport if you ask them not to. I had a lot of fun. Since the additional changes in Travel policy by President Obama, there are flights from Miami and also the West coast of USA to Cuba. These have to be booked through the travel agents for those 'educational' visits to Cuba for Americans from USA.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1647122]Americans can travel Legally to Cuba and also by a USA -owned or -controlled firm in A third country to Cuba.

I applied for a license about 10 years ago and was rejected and hence I took a flight from Mexico to Havana. The travel company in MX provided the visa and medical insurance too. Cuba will not stamp your passport if you ask them not to. I had a lot of fun. Since the additional changes in Travel policy by President Obama, there are flights from Miami and also the West coast of USA to Cuba. These have to be booked through the travel agents for those 'educational' visits to Cuba for Americans from USA.[/QUOTE]Lifeisabeach,

Great so all I need is a license. Let me think. I know now I will apply for a license as a pussy researcher. I will tell the US officials that I am writing a book titled "Riding the Cuban Jineras and their effect on leche production. Maybe my license be accepted unlike yours.

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1647339]Lifeisabeach,

Great so all I need is a license. Let me think. I know now I will apply for a license as a pussy researcher. I will tell the US officials that I am writing a book titled "Riding the Cuban Jineras and their effect on leche production. Maybe my license be accepted unlike yours.[/QUOTE]Much easier now to travel legally since the loosening of the travel embargo by President Obama. Just book through the these special travel agents in USA for their 'tours' to Cuba without having to go through the license process.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1647433]Much easier now to travel legally since the loosening of the travel embargo by President Obama. Just book through the these special travel agents in USA for their 'tours' to Cuba without having to go through the license process.[/QUOTE]Thanks Lifeisabeach for all the information. For now, I will pass on traveling to Cuba or until they fully lift the embargo and / or travel restrictions. It is still too much of hassle. Also, those tours have too many restrictions and are packed with regulated boring activities (like going to the museum and historic sites, and I am not any interested in learning about the Cuban revolution, Fidel or Che Guevara). My main interest in going to Cuba is to ride the Cuban jineteras and interact with the locals. Also to abide by the US rules these trips for US Citizens forbids the interaction with Cuban locals or leaving the tour, or going to the beach / bay by yourself, so you always within the confines of the tour people. For P4P, I will stick to Colombia and DR, and add more countries where it is unrestricted to travel and also where P4P is legal.

You don't want to go and have fun?

We were there for Valentines Day.

The people were very friendly. Just don't take photos of the police.

It is not a big hassle to get their.

You can even go from Tijuana, Mexico.

Put a blank piece of paper in your passport, to be removed before getting back to the USA.

Oh yes, Cash only, no credit cards. At the time we were there you could phone home from the hotel Nacional.

I heard that maybe you can use the internet?

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1647653]For now, I will pass on traveling to Cuba or until they fully lift the embargo and / or travel restrictions. It is still too much of hassle. Also, those tours have too many restrictions and are packed with regulated boring activities. [/QUOTE]Cerebro, I was hoping that President Obama would totally lift the travel embargo by his executive powers but he has been appeasing the anti Castro residents in Florida for votes. I heard that there is less resentment now and maybe he may lift the travel restrictions before he leaves office. It is easy to go to Cuba. Over 10 years ago, I booked through a Mexican travel agent in Tijuana, Mexico and flew from there. At that time there were more restrictions on the Cubans and only the Cubans who worked at hotels could go to Hotels. Raul made a change where Cubans could rent rooms in hotels. Does that mean that guys can bring Cuban women back to the hotels? There were some Latin Americans staying at the hotel and I would eat dinner with a couple of the younger girls, legal age and then an European guy and myself will go bar hopping with the girls later and back at the hotel we would be screwing. During the day, some times I went on tours to see the country and other days would do some sight seeing in Havana and then go to the central park in the old town, not where the tourists go. People would be playing chess and poetry will be going on. I would sit on the benches with the locals and ask guys sitting close to me to bring some girls, which they would. We would then go a girl's friend's apartment and I would screw the girls there for a couple of hours. I recall that I used to pay about $20.00 to the girl and $5. 00 for the room rental. Every woman was available at that time, single or married. I even used to have some guys at the market offer their daughters and so forth. It's better to have an apartment than stay in a hotel. I do not know the mongering scene now there. Cuba is off my list of countries as I have been there and I usually only visit a country once unless it blows me away. Life is short, just do it. Nothing bad can happen even if you get sick there as Cuba has a good medical system. Just don't wear a "I love Cuba" tee shirt on the flight back and while crossing the border!

Flying to Cuba is simple for US citizens.

Locate a country where Cubana Air flies. Travel to that country and purchase a round trip package deal.

Cuba will not stamp your passport. Pay the departure tax. Destroy your tickets.

My suggestion is Toronto, Canada.

I actually decided to do DR and Colombia. But then I checked all the flight prices and found out that the flight from DR to Colombia is as expensive as the flight from Europe to DR or from Colombia to Europe!! How is that possible? All are around 430. Seems like cheap flights are not at all established as they are in Europe, US or Asia. I was actually guessing it would be around 100-200€.

Do you think that's worth it? Or should I just skip DR then, save 400 and do Colombia only? Not sure about that. I know you can actually spend a lot of time in any country if you want. But I want to get an impression of Latin America and maybe doing only one country is not really representative for the flair. But maybe the only thing I'm really missing when I skip DR is easy girls?

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1650661]I actually decided to do DR and Colombia. But then I checked all the flight prices and found out that the flight from DR to Colombia is as expensive as the flight from Europe to DR or from Colombia to Europe!! How is that possible? All are around 430. Seems like cheap flights are not at all established as they are in Europe, US or Asia. I was actually guessing it would be around 100-200.

Do you think that's worth it? Or should I just skip DR then, save 400 and do Colombia only? Not sure about that. I know you can actually spend a lot of time in any country if you want. But I want to get an impression of Latin America and maybe doing only one country is not really representative for the flair. But maybe the only thing I'm really missing when I skip DR is easy girls?[/QUOTE]Don't break your head. Just pick one country this year. Then the following year, you could try another. Also, let say you pick Colombia. From Bogota you could flight to Medellin, Cali, and Cartagena Colombia or you could go by bus to those towns (very long rides, some a whole day) and also you could flight from Bogota to Lima-Peru, Quito-Equador, and Panama. The price for those flights are reasonably price just check the website from viva Colombia [URL]http://www.vivacolombia.co/.[/URL] You you do your accommodation booking, you should not make long term reservations, just to keep you flexible in terms of making travel plan changes whenever you decide to make a city or country change.

Ok there were some changes in the prices recently: only 214 EUR for a flight from Santo Domingo to Bogota. And for a ridiculously low extra charge of 4 EUR the same Airline will take you to any other city in Columbia from Bogot right afterwards. So I was thinking about this:

Flight from Germany to DR (Puerto Plata).

1. Sosua.

2. Cabarete.

3. Santiago de LOS Caballeros.

4. Santo Domingo.

Flight from DR (Santo Domingo) to Colombia (Cartegena).

5. Cartagena.

6. Medellin.

7. Bogota.

Flight from Colombia (Bogota) to Germany.

So what do you think about my plan?

Am I wanting too much? Should I kick places out?

How about Pereira? Is it more worthy to visit then the three mentioned in Colombia?

If you have miles with Star Alliance, 10 k will get you one-way flight between DR and Colombia on Copa, which is an excellent airline.

I'm like you, I like to have a beach vacation (DR) but also hit Medellin or Cali. I've done it several times w/o a hitch.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1650661]I actually decided to do DR and Colombia. But then I checked all the flight prices and found out that the flight from DR to Colombia is as expensive as the flight from Europe to DR or from Colombia to Europe!! How is that possible? All are around 430. Seems like cheap flights are not at all established as they are in Europe, US or Asia. I was actually guessing it would be around 100-200.

Do you think that's worth it? Or should I just skip DR then, save 400 and do Colombia only? Not sure about that. I know you can actually spend a lot of time in any country if you want. But I want to get an impression of Latin America and maybe doing only one country is not really representative for the flair. But maybe the only thing I'm really missing when I skip DR is easy girls?[/QUOTE]

It depends, how long is your vacation?

Keep in mind that Bogota, Cartagena and Medellin are at flight distances unless you want to take a 24 hours bus which some people do. I can't stand being on a bus more than 3 hours.

Also, see if you flight from Puerto Plata not the capital Santo Domingo to Colombia.

While in DR those towns Puerto Plata, Sousa, Cabarete, Santo Domingo, Santiago are all good and there are all accessible via nice buses called Caribe tours and metro bus. Sousa to Santiago is about and hour. Sousa is a town of Puerto Plata. Cabarete is the next town to Sousa or 5-10 miles away. The capital Santo domingo is 3-4 hours from Sousa.

As for your Colombia itinerary, it's more challenging its a huge country and as I mentioned all those towns Medellin Bogota Cartagena are far apart unless you planning to do some serious road travel.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1650992]Ok there were some changes in the prices recently: only 214 EUR for a flight from Santo Domingo to Bogota. And for a ridiculously low extra charge of 4 EUR the same Airline will take you to any other city in Columbia from Bogot right afterwards. So I was thinking about this:

Flight from Germany to DR (Puerto Plata).

1. Sosua.

2. Cabarete.

3. Santiago de LOS Caballeros..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1650992]So what do you think about my plan?[/QUOTE]Your plan is fucking perfect. The you way you have it laid out appears that you have already done it. You must have done some serious research. Thanks for having your shit together before you asked.

1. Puerto Plata/Sosua/Cabarete (same area)
2. Santiago (you don't need more than 1 day here)
3. Santo Domingo/Boca Chica (same area)

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1651023]Your plan is fucking perfect. The you way you have it laid out appears that you have already done it. You must have done some serious research. Thanks for having your shit together before you asked.

1. Puerto Plata/Sosua/Cabarete (same area)
2. Santiago (you don't need more than 1 day here)
3. Santo Domingo/Boca Chica (same area)[/QUOTE]I actually prefer Santiago more. They have a couple of nice freelance clubs there.

Not much P4P action in Santiago, but the women are beautiful there, and there is a lot of chances to hook up with local civilian girls. Since Wigolon is looking for opportunities to get real girlfriends and because that is one of his priorities, Santiago may be a good city to spend a few days. I grew up in Santiago and lived there 20 years. The Best places to hook up (not hookers) with the civilian girls when I was there (25 years ago) was in las discotecas / dance places and while attending Utesa university. Now, things are very different and there are many more options, and there is also more P4P than when lived there, but it is still not big on that category. Flying out of the country from Santiago or Puerto Plata than from the Capital Santo Domingo is also better unless you are staying in the Capital.

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1651063]I actually prefer Santiago more. They have a couple of nice freelance clubs there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1651634]Not much P4P action in Santiago, but the women are beautiful there, and there is a lot of chances to hook up with local civilian girls. Since Wigolon is looking for opportunities to get real girlfriends and because that is one of his priorities, Santiago may be a good city to spend a few days. I grew up in Santiago and lived there 20 years. The Best places to hook up (not hookers) with the civilian girls when I was there (25 years ago) was in las discotecas / dance places and while attending Utesa university. Now, things are very different and there are many more options, and there is also more P4P than when lived there, but it is still not big on that category. Flying out of the country from Santiago or Puerto Plata than from the Capital Santo Domingo is also better unless you are staying in the Capital.[/QUOTE]I am talking about Passion and Casa Blanca which are P4 P clubs. Passion was pretty big as I recall.

Since the beginning of this month, Canadian citizens traveling to Colombia have to pay a COP160,000 or $80 entry fee.

The measure was imposed in response to Canada's entry fee for Colombians.

According to Colombia's Foreign Ministry, Canadians can still travel to Colombia without having to get a visa first, but have to pay the entry fee when passing through Migration either at the airport.

Above is copied from the Dec 09 issue of Colombia Reports, the online newspaper from Bogota.

I decided to it like this now:

DR: Santiago.

DR: Cabarete.

Col: Medellan (flight from Santo Domingo).

Col: Barranquilla (flight from Medellin) - Cartagena - Barranquilla - Santa Marta.

Col: Bogota (flight from Santa Marta, staying only 2 days before going home).

Any recommendations on cheap, safe and chica friendly hotels (no hassle with discussions) in the mentioned places are appreciated!

Flight from DR to Colombia still not booked because it remains expensive. I hope that will change within the next weeks. Otherwise I'll have to pay 450€ just for that flight.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1656491]I decided to it like this now:

DR: Santiago.

DR: Cabarete.

Col: Medellan (flight from Santo Domingo).

Col: Barranquilla (flight from Medellin) - Cartagena - Barranquilla - Santa Marta.

Col: Bogota (flight from Santa Marta, staying only 2 days before going home).

Any recommendations on cheap, safe and chica friendly hotels (no hassle with discussions) in the mentioned places are appreciated!

Flight from DR to Colombia still not booked because it remains expensive. I hope that will change within the next weeks. Otherwise I'll have to pay 450 just for that flight.[/QUOTE]Santiago: Plaza Monumental or Alberto's Suites. Santiago will have the cheapest accommodations of your entire trip. $25.

I recommend staying in Sosua and just going to Cabarete during the day if you want to see the beach there or windsurf or kitesurf. Check Sosua Hotels thread. $40-$60.

Medellin: Don't know. Never been there. My buddy stays somewhere downtown though for like $25 and takes the bus from the airport for like $3.

Barranquilla: Hotel Sorrento $45. Don't recommend staying in BAQ unless there is some chick you are planning to meet. Even then, I would just have her meet me and take a van or bus together to Santa Marta. There is not a damn thing to do there except go to the mall.

Cartagena: Hotel Playa or rent apartment. I rented an apartment first, but changed to the hotel because the apartment was terrible. Cartagena will have the most expensive accommodations of your trip. The apartment I had was like $40 and the hotel was basic and cost $80.

Santa Marta: El Rodadero area. Just walk around and the people who rent apartments will find you. There is a Hotel Sorrento there as well. $50.

Bogota: Hotel La Sabana or El Virrey.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1656491]I decided to it like this now:

DR: Santiago.

DR: Cabarete.

Col: Medellan (flight from Santo Domingo).

Col: Barranquilla (flight from Medellin) - Cartagena - Barranquilla - Santa Marta.

Col: Bogota (flight from Santa Marta, staying only 2 days before going home).

Any recommendations on cheap, safe and chica friendly hotels (no hassle with discussions) in the mentioned places are appreciated!

Flight from DR to Colombia still not booked because it remains expensive. I hope that will change within the next weeks. Otherwise I'll have to pay 450 just for that flight.[/QUOTE]Don't know if you saw my previous post. But if you have miles with Star Alliance, for 10 K miles you can fly between Santo Domingo and MDE, Cali, Bogota. If you don't have miles now, you could probably purchase 10 k miles for less than 450 Euros.

Mr enternational, thanks a lot for the suggestions! I began checking out the ones for santiago, now I know they are valuable. Albertos suite doesn't have a website nor email though, a bit annoying for the first destination. So I think I will go for hotel plaza monumental. If I plan to bring chica should I book for 2 persons right away? Otherwise too small bed, problems bringing her up? Is there like a general rule for DR and Colombia regarding that?

Combo: thanks for the miles tip. I will check it out.

[QUOTE=Wigolon;1657578]Mr enternational, thanks a lot for the suggestions! I began checking out the ones for santiago, now I know they are valuable. Albertos suite doesn't have a website nor email though, a bit annoying for the first destination. So I think I will go for hotel plaza monumental. If I plan to bring chica should I book for 2 persons right away? Otherwise too small bed, problems bringing her up? Is there like a general rule for DR and Colombia regarding that?

Combo: thanks for the miles tip. I will check it out.[/QUOTE]Never too small a bed at Plaza Monumental. Actually each room has 4 or 5 beds. 2 or 3 of them will be waterbeds. If you PM me I will send you the contact info for Albertos.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1657712]Never too small a bed at Plaza Monumental. Actually each room has 4 or 5 beds. 2 or 3 of them will be waterbeds. If you PM me I will send you the contact info for Albertos..[/QUOTE]Unfortunately I can't send PMs.

Do you know if I book for 1 person, will they nag me if I bring a girl?

Damn! Avianca currently has a 2 for 1 miles offer, but only available for membere since before one month. :

That would have been a really good price. But Now I still need to wait for the flight to get cheaper. Anyway I registered for the miles thing, the current offer runs out tomorrow. I hope they make a new one like that immediately, then I still have a chance.

Are Colombians able to travel to Spain without a Visa at this time, like per se 1st or 2nd of January? I have found conflicting stories when researching this, so does anyone know 100 percent what the answer is to my question. Obviously the Embassy Offices are closed during the Holiday Season so I can't call.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1660960]Are Colombians able to travel to Spain without a Visa at this time, like per se 1st or 2nd of January? I have found conflicting stories when researching this, so does anyone know 100 percent what the answer is to my question. Obviously the Embassy Offices are closed during the Holiday Season so I can't call.[/QUOTE]It would appear that the answer to your question is no, assuming that this information is still current:

[URL]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Colombian_citizens[/URL]#cite_note-169.

[URL]https://www.timaticweb.com/cgi-bin/tim_website_client.cgi?SpecData=1&VISA=&page=visa&NA=CO&AR=00&PASSTYPES=PASS&DE=ES&user=KLMB2C&subuser=KLMB2C[/URL]

I did read some news about talk about changing this, but I don't think this change has come to pass yet.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1660960]Are Colombians able to travel to Spain without a Visa at this time, like per se 1st or 2nd of January? I have found conflicting stories when researching this, so does anyone know 100 percent what the answer is to my question. Obviously the Embassy Offices are closed during the Holiday Season so I can't call.[/QUOTE]The answer to my question is no. The latter part of 2015 they will be able to.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1660960]Are Colombians able to travel to Spain without a Visa at this time, like per se 1st or 2nd of January? I have found conflicting stories when researching this, so does anyone know 100 percent what the answer is to my question. Obviously the Embassy Offices are closed during the Holiday Season so I can't call.[/QUOTE]While the European Parliament had already decided on waiving the visa requirement for Columbian nationals (along with nationals of some other countries) the implementation in EU Member States is still pending. If things go well, it may be implemented in summer 2015 subject to successful negotiations with Colombia. But do not rely on this. It can take longer.

I'm thinking of adding Colombia to my short list of future mongering destinations. So far I've been mongering in Holland, Germany, and Morocco, as well as my home, the UK.

Could people who have been to any of these countries give a comparison with Colombia? I'm mainly into purely P4P rather than getting to know a local and seduce her into bed. Looking around the forum I seem to see a lot of people seem to be chatting up locals and then bedding them, with or without direct payment, but I really prefer places where things are crystal clear and with a good ambiance, safe environment and where I can browse around before parting with any money.

I've most enjoyed the German FKK style so far and found Germany and Holland very easy to get around in with barely knowing a single word of the local language. Morocco quite frustrating but potentially great being able to watch all the working girls dance in the clubs and score a GFE. Albeit too many scammers and risks involved. So how would the Colombia scene compare with these places?

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1661744]I'm thinking of adding Colombia to my short list of future mongering destinations. So far I've been mongering in Holland, Germany, and Morocco, as well as my home, the UK.

Could people who have been to any of these countries give a comparison with Colombia? I'm mainly into purely P4P rather than getting to know a local and seduce her into bed. Looking around the forum I seem to see a lot of people seem to be chatting up locals and then bedding them, with or without direct payment, but I really prefer places where things are crystal clear and with a good ambiance, safe environment and where I can browse around before parting with any money.

I've most enjoyed the German FKK style so far and found Germany and Holland very easy to get around in with barely knowing a single word of the local language. Morocco quite frustrating but potentially great being able to watch all the oworking girls dance in the clubs and score a GFE. Albeit too many scammers and risks involved. So how would the Colombia scene compare with these places?[/QUOTE]I have mongered in Germany, Spain, Morocco, and Colombia. IMO, Colombia is better than Spain, definitely better than Morocco, but does not measure up to the FKKs in Germany. P4P is widely available in Colombia, at different price levels, from $20 US for a quickie in downtown casa to $100 for an hour of fun with a high-end girl. I suggest you RTFF the Colombia forum for more details on what's available there.

[QUOTE=DarkSmurf;1661744]I'm thinking of adding Colombia to my short list of future mongering destinations. So far I've been mongering in Holland, Germany, and Morocco, as well as my home, the UK.

Could people who have been to any of these countries give a comparison with Colombia? I'm mainly into purely P4P rather than getting to know a local and seduce her into bed. Looking around the forum I seem to see a lot of people seem to be chatting up locals and then bedding them, with or without direct payment, but I really prefer places where things are crystal clear and with a good ambiance, safe environment and where I can browse around before parting with any money.

I've most enjoyed the German FKK style so far and found Germany and Holland very easy to get around in with barely knowing a single word of the local language. Morocco quite frustrating but potentially great being able to watch all the working girls dance in the clubs and score a GFE. Albeit too many scammers and risks involved. So how would the Colombia scene compare with these places?[/QUOTE]The closest thing in South America to the FKKs of Germany is the Termas in Rio. In fact I think those might be the only two places in the World with that kind of setup. Too bad as it's a fantastic concept.

I imagine we can't ID the girls, so how to protect myself from trouble besides going with girls that have cellulite? Where are the [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] girls in Bogota, Medellin and Baranquilla? What places are best to avoid and can we be sure that all the girls in a house are OK?

This girl can be a new superstar, only seen 1 barzilian chick being more sexy. She is Mexican or Coloombian. Anyone knows her artist name. Looking desperatly to identify her.

[URL]http://www.keezmovies.com/video/busty-latina-blowjob-4868942[/URL]

I am planning my first San Jose, Costa Rica / Medellin, Colombia trip for later this year but I can't find any airfares for less than $500 for what should be a very short flight. Any smaller airlines I should be looking at? I'm looking but I haven't been able to uncover any. Thanks.

[QUOTE=Lou32;1670433]I am planning my first San Jose, Costa Rica / Medellin, Colombia trip for later this year but I can't find any airfares for less than $500 for what should be a very short flight. Any smaller airlines I should be looking at? I'm looking but I haven't been able to uncover any. Thanks.[/QUOTE]My wingman just came SJO PTY MDE on Copa. Check on that. The ticket for BOG MDE was like $130 for the longest then I looked on a Tuesday night and it was $72. So try checking on a Tuesday night as well. My wingman said Costa Rica was a waste of time by the way.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1670445]My wingman just came SJO PTY MDE on Copa. Check on that. The ticket for BOG MDE was like $130 for the longest then I looked on a Tuesday night and it was $72. So try checking on a Tuesday night as well. My wingman said Costa Rica was a waste of time by the way.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the head's up! Yeah, I haven't been to either CR or Colombia and it is really hard to tell which is the better first time option.

Some guys LOVE CR while other men hate it.

I've never heard anyone claim that Colombia is not a good time, however.

[QUOTE=Vatore007;1662140]I imagine we can't ID the girls, so how to protect myself from trouble besides going with girls that have cellulite? Where are theCodeWord902 girls in Bogota, Medellin and Baranquilla? What places are best to avoid and can we be sure that all the girls in a house are OK?[/QUOTE]Are there girls out there with fake ID's?

[QUOTE=Lou32;1670450]Thanks for the head's up! Yeah, I haven't been to either CR or Colombia and it is really hard to tell which is the better first time option.

Some guys LOVE CR while other men hate it.

I've never heard anyone claim that Colombia is not a good time, however.[/QUOTE]I usually see Avianca has better price than COPA, for bog to mde also on the Avianca site if you use the Colombia site rather than international, you see prices in COP rather than $. Over the past 3 years sometimes the colombian site will except an Canadian bank visa card and debit in COP but other times it will not accept my card. In December I had to go to a Avianca office in mde to buy a mde to bog ticket, but a week ago I bot a bog to mde ticket with canuck visa card online price 66,000 cop or $33.00 cad international site price was $95. Cad.

[QUOTE=James02;1671401]Are there girls out there with fake ID's?[/QUOTE]Does it snow in Canada in the winter? Do I love Colombianas?

[QUOTE=Bart1;1671497]Does it snow in Canada in the winter? Do I love Colombianas?[/QUOTE]Of course there will be every where girls with fake ID; But if its one in 10000 then it ant a lot.

Those Colombia have a high reputation for girls with fake ID (like Thailand).

And is there a way of knowing if hear ID is fake or not.

[QUOTE=James02;1671899]Of course there will be every where girls with fake ID; But if its one in 10000 then it ant a lot.

Those Colombia have a high reputation for girls with fake ID (like Thailand).

And is there a way of knowing if hear ID is fake or not.[/QUOTE]Sorry I typed that wrong (don't know how to edit my post).

I ment; Do the Colombians have a hight reputation for girls with fake ID?

Question not a statment.

[QUOTE=Aunsa;1640464]Have a few spare tickets left for Pit Ball and Nicky Jam this Friday in Medellin and Saturday in Bogota.

PM me if interested.[/QUOTE]This scammer Aunsa is amazing. Besides renting imaginary apartments in Rio, Medellin, Cartagena, and England. He is also selling tickets for concerts of Pit Bull, New Directions, Beyonce, tickets for the world soccer cup, private parties, whatever you want, this guy will try to fool you to steal your money. Be careful if the guy PMs you asking you to meet for beer in Bogota or anywhere or trying to rent you his imaginary apartments. Aunsa will clean your wallet for sure.

Paulina Vega from Baranquilla wins miss universe this year. Well deserved. She is a stunning beauty and looks much better in pics outside of the contest. Google "Paulina Vega" in Google images. As usual many beautiful latinas, including the runner up.

I am living in Colombia for 6 months or more and would like to have some wingmen to help me meet the Latin ladies. (I know basic Spanish. If you know some too Spanish that's helpful) I want to to meet non pros for a relationship. I already know how to find pros and semi pros and can help you with that if you want.

Anyone know of a good English speaking guide for Cartagena?

Hi folks,

I'm planning to visit Colombia (probably Medellin, but am flexible) in June / July for a few weeks. I want to study Spanish at a language school while I'm there. Stay somewhere where I can study and sample some of the local delights (nightlife etc).

Has anyone got any recommendations they can share?

Thanks so much guys.

Learned my lesson long ago to check on local holidays before scheduling a trip, especially to Colombia, they seem to have more holidays and holy days then any other Latin American country I've been to. So anyway planning to go to Bogota in March. They have a national Holiday on March 21st, St. Joseph day. How big of a deal is this holiday and will it have any impact on my hobby?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1680470]Learned my lesson long ago to check on local holidays before scheduling a trip, especially to Colombia, they seem to have more holidays and holy days then any other Latin American country I've been to. So anyway planning to go to Bogota in March. They have a national Holiday on March 21st, St. Joseph day. How big of a deal is this holiday and will it have any impact on my hobby?[/QUOTE]Yes, they use any excuse to have a holiday! Most casas and businesses are closed. BTW, I think you meant March 23rd. Most national holidays are on a Monday (and I looked it up). If you ask, most people don't even know what the holiday is for. Just that they will be closed!

[QUOTE=Hioctane;1680479]Yes, they use any excuse to have a holiday! Most casas and businesses are closed. BTW, I think you meant March 23rd. Most national holidays are on a Monday (and I looked it up). If you ask, most people don't even know what the holiday is for. Just that they will be closed![/QUOTE]Correct, they always move the holiday to Monday, got to love Colombia jajaj! Doesn't appear to be a big holiday. I'm sure banks ect will be closed but I would think the bars and prepagos will be business as usual.

For what? What are you looking for him to guide you to? Cartagena is laid out pretty simple.

[QUOTE=Shamester;1676350]Anyone know of a good English speaking guide for Cartagena?[/QUOTE]

There's a lot of English spoken in the Spanish colonial, walled-in old town. Just get a map and go for it.

What makes a great gift for your favorite chica is to bring down an older laptop you are no longer using and convert it to windows spanish. I had one converted 3 years ago and today just picked up a converted 4 year old win7 10"notebook I had brought down this trip. The same guy did it again for only 30 k cop. PM me for store address. Obviously it is a pirated program so I do not want Billy Gates or Obuma and on another seek and destroy mission.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1680864]There's a lot of English spoken in the Spanish colonial, walled-in old town. Just get a map and go for it.[/QUOTE]I cannot believe what I am reading above, as the mind of the old man must be deteriorating to make an inaccurate post like this. Definitely clueless. Do not come to Cartagena and expect to find any English speakers, as they are far and few in between no matter what area you are in.

[URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

I've known about this drug for many years. I've never been a victim or even seen it but it does exist and an average of 3 dosing are reported a day in Bogota. In a city of 8 plus million the odds are in your favor but always be aware. Area bars in Sante Fe are probably the most likely target but could happen anywhere. Never leave your drink unattended.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1688245]I cannot believe what I am reading above, as the mind of the old man must be deteriorating to make an inaccurate post like this. Definitely clueless. Do not come to Cartagena and expect to find any English speakers, as they are far and few in between no matter what area you are in.[/QUOTE]The last time I was in old city I saw and heard lots of English speakers, they were all wearing plaid shorts, sandals, small backpack, camera strapped around their neck, and a tour map in their hand.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1688415][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

I've known about this drug for many years. I've never been a victim or even seen it but it does exist and an average of 3 dosing are reported a day in Bogota. In a city of 8 plus million the odds are in your favor but always be aware. Area bars in Sante Fe are probably the most likely target but could happen anywhere. Never leave your drink unattended.[/QUOTE]When I tried to open in Colombia, this is what I saw.

This video contains content from Fox International Channels, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

This same guy did one for Buenos Aires, Argentina also.
[url]http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xv02tk_national-geographic-scam-city-buenos-aires_shortfilms[/url]

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1688415][URL]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

I've known about this drug for many years. I've never been a victim or even seen it but it does exist and an average of 3 dosing are reported a day in Bogota. In a city of 8 plus million the odds are in your favor but always be aware. Area bars in Sante Fe are probably the most likely target but could happen anywhere. Never leave your drink unattended.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bart1;1688596]When I tried to open in Colombia, this is what I saw.

This video contains content from Fox International Channels, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.[/QUOTE]Try to google, Scam city, Bogota videos. You my be able to get it that way.

I am planning to go to Colombia in the next few months. I will be going to Medellin for sure. I like to visit another city as well. Between Bogota, Cali and Cartagena, which one is better to visit and has a better nightlife. I may stay in the country for 10- 12 days. Any feedback in great.

March 22 2015:

For the first time in a decade, the top 10 happiest countries in the world are all in Latin America, according to the 2014 Gallup Positive Experience Index.

Paraguay placed first out of 143 countries, with its people reporting the most positive emotions on a daily basis, according to the survey. Gallup researchers released the results for the United Nations' third annual International Day of Happiness today (March 20).

To gauge happiness levels around the world, researchers interviewed about 1,000 people in each country, either in person or over the phone. All of the participants were age 15 or older, and answered questions about how happy they felt the day before.

More than 70 percent of the respondents worldwide said they experienced enjoyment; smiled or laughed; felt well rested; and thought they were treated with respect, the poll found. What's more, half of the participants said they had learned or did something interesting the day before the interview, according to the poll.

Gallup researchers compiled a "positive experience index score" for each country based on the responses to these five questions. Overall, the world has an average index score of 71 out of 100, but all of the Latin American countries that ranked in the top 10 scored higher than that.

Here are the 10 happiest countries, listed with their positive experience index scores:

1. Paraguay, 89.

2. Colombia, 84.

3. Ecuador, 84.

4. Guatemala, 84.

5. Honduras, 82.

6. Panama, 82.

7. Venezuela, 82.

8. Costa Rica, 81.

9. El Salvador, 81.

10. Nicaragua, 81.

The United States received a score of 79, making it the 15th happiest country in the world, tied with 11 other countries, including Argentina and Canada.

People reported feeling happy even in war-torn countries, "perhaps testimony of the resiliency of the human spirit," Gallup officials said in a statement.

[QUOTE=Sun08;1693265]I am planning to go to Colombia in the next few months. I will be going to Medellin for sure. I like to visit another city as well. Between Bogota, Cali and Cartagena, which one is better to visit and has a better nightlife. I may stay in the country for 10- 12 days. Any feedback in great.[/QUOTE]What do you like? Salsa-dancing or beach, islands, historical-architecture?

Honestly, CTG has more going on- and you can always pop over to Barranquilla or Santa Marta from there.

Have fun!

I can not believe that it is on the list.

[URL]http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/english/alertswarnings/honduras-travel-warning.html[/URL]

[URL]http://www.hrw.org/world-report/2014/country-chapters/honduras[/URL]

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1697951]March 22 2015:

For the first time in a decade, the top 10 happiest countries in the world are all in Latin America, according to the 2014 Gallup Positive Experience Index.

Paraguay placed first out of 143 countries, with its people reporting the most positive emotions on a daily basis, according to the survey. Gallup researchers released the results for the United Nations' third annual International Day of Happiness today (March 20).

To gauge happiness levels around the world, researchers interviewed about 1,000 people in each country, either in person or over the phone. All of the participants were age 15 or older, and answered questions about how happy they felt the day before.

More than 70 percent of the respondents worldwide said they experienced enjoyment; smiled or laughed; felt well rested; and thought they were treated with respect, the poll found. What's more, half of the participants said they had learned or did something interesting the day before the interview, according to the poll.

Gallup researchers compiled a "positive experience index score" for each country based on the responses to these five questions. Overall, the world has an average index score of 71 out of 100, but all of the Latin American countries that ranked in the top 10 scored higher than that.

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1697953]What do you like? Salsa-dancing or beach, islands, historical-architecture?

Honestly, CTG has more going on- and you can always pop over to Barranquilla or Santa Marta from there.

Have fun![/QUOTE]Thanks. Basically looking to see which of the cities offer better nightlife and has better / more bars, discos, and casas.

Besides the tourist sites.

[QUOTE=Sun08;1698263]Thanks. Basically looking to see which of the cities offer better nightlife and has better / more bars, discos, and casas.

Besides the tourist sites.[/QUOTE]Possibly the easiest question ever to answer on the forum, Bogota, Bogota, Bogota.

[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...f1c_story.html[/URL]

Drug Enforcement Administration agents allegedly had "sex parties" with prostitutes hired by local drug cartels overseas over a period of several years, according to a report released Thursday by the Justice Department's watchdog.

The report did not specify the country where the parties occurred, but a law enforcement official familiar with the matter identified it as Colombia.

Seven of the 10 DEA agents alleged to have participated in the gatherings — most of which took place at an agent's "quarters" leased by the USA Government — admitted to having attended the parties, the report found. The agents, some of whom had top-secret security clearances, received suspensions of two to 10 days.

Former police officers in Colombia also alleged that three DEA supervisory special agents were provided with money, expensive gifts and weapons from drug cartel members, according to the report.

"Although some of the DEA agents participating in these parties denied it, the information in the case file suggested they should have known the prostitutes in attendance were paid with cartel funds," according to the 131-page report by Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz.

The findings were part of a much broader investigation into the handling of allegations of sexual harassment and misconduct from fiscal 2009 to 2012 at federal law enforcement agencies — the DEA, the FBI, the USA Marshals Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.

Horowitz said the investigation was "significantly impacted and unnecessarily delayed" by repeated difficulties his office had in obtaining relevant information from the FBI and the DEA. When he did receive the information, he said, it "was still incomplete. ".

In a statement, a spokesman for the Justice Department said officials took the issues raised in the inspector general's report seriously and are "taking steps to implement policies and procedures to help prevent them from happening in the future. ".

The investigation was launched in response to congressional inquiries following the 2012 prostitution scandal in Cartagena, Colombia, involving Secret Service agents.

At the time, one Secret Service advance agent implicated in the scandal told investigators that he had met with a prostitute as a result of an informal party that DEA agents hosted with Colombian women, according to officials briefed on the inquiry.

Ten of the 13 Secret Service personnel implicated were pressured to resign or retire, or were forced out of their jobs. Three were able to keep their positions, after it was determined that they had not violated their security clearances.

At the time, one Secret Service advance agent implicated in the scandal told investigators that he had met with a prostitute as a result of an informal party that DEA agents hosted with Colombian women, according to officials briefed on the inquiry.

Ten of the 13 Secret Service personnel implicated were pressured to resign or retire, or were forced out of their jobs. Three were able to keep their positions, after it was determined that they had not violated their security clearances.

"The Department of Justice may not be taking adequate steps to prevent its own employees from buying sex and thereby contributing to the demand for the human sex trade," Grassley wrote to Acting Deputy Attorney General Sally Quillian Yates.

I have read media reports that Venezuelan girls have invaded the Colombian border town of Cucuta, and are offering sex services on the cheap there.

Well, if there any girls who give Colombianas a run for their money when it comes to beauty, it is Venezuelan women.

So, I thought, if a girl is a real beauty, she wouldn't stay stuck in Cucuta for long, and will leave to greener pastures (and more money) to bigger cities in Colombia.

Anyone on the ground that noticed Venezuelan P4 P girls in our usual hot-spots like in Medellin or Cali or Cartagena?

Because, if you can find both Colombianas and Venezuelan P4 P girls in Colombia, it will become the next best thing since heaven! .

[QUOTE=Sun08;1693265]I am planning to go to Colombia in the next few months. I will be going to Medellin for sure. I like to visit another city as well. Between Bogota, Cali and Cartagena, which one is better to visit and has a better nightlife. I may stay in the country for 10- 12 days. Any feedback in great.[/QUOTE]I have been to all the major and some minor cities in CO. My vote for the second city would be CTG, especially if you are only going for a few days. If you have many days, Bogota would get up there but it lot easier to manage and get the best what the city has to offer in a smaller and more manageable city like CTG.

Has anyone here been successful in opening a Colombian bank account, and if so how did you do it? I keep getting told that I need to have proof of income here in Colombia. I have read that you can open an account with your cedular extranjeria, passport, and proof of residency (utility bill or the like) but the proof of income in Colombia no can do. This was at Citi BTW. I wanted to open an account with them since I have a Citi account in the states but I am open to other banks if need be. Might have to try HSBC next.

Really only need the account to bring money in to buy a house. Otherwise I would just keep rocking the ATM like I've been doing for the last 4 years.

Surely there are some gringos here with Colombian bank accounts but no jobs?

[URL]http://fusion.net/story/107578/crisis-pushes-venezuelan-women-to-sell-sex-in-colombia/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1700465]I have read media reports that Venezuelan girls have invaded the Colombian border town of Cucuta, and are offering sex services on the cheap there.

Well, if there any girls who give Colombians a run for their money when it comes to beauty, it is Venezuelan women.

So, I thought, if a girl is a real beauty, she wouldn't stay stuck in Cucuta for long, and will leave to greener pastures (and more money) to bigger cities in Colombia.

Anyone on the ground that noticed Venezuelan P4 P girls in our usual hot-spots like in Medellin or Cali or Cartagena?

Because, if you can find both Colombianas and Venezuelan P4 P girls in Colombia, it will become the next best thing since heaven![/QUOTE]

It is possible to make contact with famous pornstars; I now have 2 friends from the Culioneros series.

Natasha and Isabella.

They are not hotter than any other hot Colombiana, but if you think that kind of carefree and openminded girls are your thing, it really turns you on, having seen what they love to do; it's an amazing feeling to communicate with them!

I migt marry one of them in the future, which would be a "convenience" marriage for her, but it does not include only her; she has friends and more!

This lays a bit in the future though; work and creating a funcional business comes first; but this kind of things, 100% impossible to happen in Sexprison Europe or Northamerica, just represents what is unbelievable good in Colombia; you have friendly people, good climate, economical living, sports, culture, etc; girls are just an superextra that comes on top of all this, even without it Colombia would still be a great place to live!

You don't have to be a star to make this come true, meeting model girls and thelike; a normal European guy can do, if he is a gentle man and nows his way around!

Money is the world's greatest afrodisiac; that is true of Colombian girls; they work as an dooropener and it does not have to be 1000's of $USdollars or €uros, amounts that you pay for a haircut in a nice saloon at home get you a de luxe babe in her apartment in Medellin, Calì, and Cartagena, while Bogotà sometimes seems to be up to 100% more expensive and with the cold humid climate I just payed $US1500 to escape from!

It is interesting to see what salaries are in Colombia at the [URL]http://www.tusalario.org/colombia/Portada/tusalario/compara-tu-salario[/URL].

A doctor at a company with 10 years experience makes 3. 4 M COP - 5. 1 M COP, which is $US1350-$US2000. How much does such a person make in the US? Five to ten times more?

As a normal income guy, single, working a lot before a longer stay in Colombia; you enter a many time fully developed society, since you don't have to visit the parts that are not, and suddenly you can afford stuff on a daily basis that fills your every need; and girls are interested in you, and the cultures approve of her being it, and you of her!

Yes, Colombia is the next best thing since Paradise, and her sisters in Venezuela, are very Welcome!

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1703175]It is possible to make contact with famous pornstars; I now have 2 friends from the Culioneros series.

Natasha and Isabella.

They are not hotter than any other hot Colombiana, but if you think that kind of carefree and openminded girls are your thing, it really turns you on, having seen what they love to do; it's an amazing feeling to communicate with them!

I migt marry one of them in the future, which would be a "convenience" marriage for her, but it does not include only her; she has friends and more!

This lays a bit in the future though; work and creating a funcional business comes first; but this kind of things, 100% impossible to happen in Sexprison Europe or Northamerica, just represents what is unbelievable good in Colombia; you have friendly people, good climate, economical living, sports, culture, etc; girls are just an superextra that comes on top of all this, even without it Colombia would still be a great place to live![/QUOTE]One question. Why do you always take the conversation to marrying a paisas and putting her on a track? It sounds like you're trying to pimp your wife? Then break down the stats of how much a Colombian _ makes and yeah.

Why? Can't you just enjoy the fun of it all and the natural beauty? Why do you always take it to the math side of thing?

The second part: Which Natsha and Isabela?

I am a fan of that series and I would disagree that they are hotter than most every other Colombian girl I will say they are hot and I would like to make a personal movie with one or both of them.

LMK if this is possible.

Colombianos find Venezuelan girls beautiful though I don't. The price of Venezuelan pros around Cucuta are higher than Colombian pros.

[QUOTE=Sympalogy;1700465]I have read media reports that Venezuelan girls have invaded the Colombian border town of Cucuta, and are offering sex services on the cheap there.

Well, if there any girls who give Colombianas a run for their money when it comes to beauty, it is Venezuelan women.

So, I thought, if a girl is a real beauty, she wouldn't stay stuck in Cucuta for long, and will leave to greener pastures (and more money) to bigger cities in Colombia.

Anyone on the ground that noticed Venezuelan P4 P girls in our usual hot-spots like in Medellin or Cali or Cartagena?

Because, if you can find both Colombianas and Venezuelan P4 P girls in Colombia, it will become the next best thing since heaven! .[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1703497]One question. Why do you always take the conversation to marrying a paisas and putting her on a track? It sounds like you're trying to pimp your wife? Then break down the stats of how much a Colombian _ makes and yeah.

Why? Can't you just enjoy the fun of it all and the natural beauty? Why do you always take it to the math side of thing?

The second part: Which Natsha and Isabela?

I am a fan of that series and I would disagree that they are hotter than most every other Colombian girl I will say they are hot and I would like to make a personal movie with one or both of them.

LMK if this is possible.[/QUOTE]I wanted to say to guys that has never been in Colombia; yes, it is a Paradise, and you can afford it and you can meet the girl of your dreams, even a man with average looks, maybe not all guys, but far many more than back home! Personality are also a strong factor that are valued much higher here; I get friends and girlfriends since I'm a "persona amable", while it's a fundamental weakness in an aggressive Anglo-Saxon society!

That was a dream, a fantasy, marrying a pornostar / prepago. We all have such and the girls often ask me; what is your sexual fantasy; and we can talk about erotic subjects freely, and of course girl / friends sometimes ask how much girls make in SexPrison, about porno, female erotic stars, as Colombia has many famous bikini-models from Mejor Cola de la Valle, Chica's car Audio, etc. If any arrangement, marrying such a girl in the future; That's would be a miracle; I love miracles!

Half consciously half subconsciously I wright for guys so they don't do the same irreversible mistake as myself; I did not believe the good reports about Colombia back in 2005; so I went to Argentina and Peru instead; I only visited Bogota for a week 2006. That was a mistake based on the view that Colombia is / was South America's Lebanon and Medellin it's Beirut! Which was true back in the 90's. I lost 4 years, which could have been my very best ones, and I hope to prevent other guys from doing the same! There is an enormous difference between Colombia and Peru and Argentina; Colombia wins hands down in very central aspects; without necessarily loosing big on other parameters. It is easy to think that Latin America is much the same, but the difference is sometimes striking; that they all speak Spanish in all the countries (except Brazil, but it's very close) often leads us automatically to the conclusion that the culture are very similar, but it's not!

I apologize that I mixed up $$$ and the joyful living. It is strange that I -just as you say, I often write like that- since in my real life I'm very carefree about $$$ and just do what you advice me to; Just enjoy!

The Colombia feeling, The Cali-feeling, The Medellin-feeling, The Cartagena-feeling; I think Cartagena has the most magical feeling. When coming to Colombia, I just laugh of happiness, and many times living in Medellin; I stood on my balcony, or in the Bodytech gym, La 70; just thinking; I'm in Medellin and it's amazing, It's Amazing!

Natasha is the girl in "La Vecina" and Isabella is "Luchy", just Google; Natasha / Isabella / Luchy + Culioneros.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1703581]I wanted to say to guys that has never been in Colombia; yes, it is a Paradise,
The Colombia feeling, The Cali-feeling, The Medellin-feeling, The Cartagena-feeling; I think Cartagena has the most magical feeling. When coming to Colombia, I just laugh of happiness, and many times living in Medellin; I stood on my balcony, or in the Bodytech gym, La 70; just thinking; I'm in Medellin and it's amazing, It's Amazing!

Natasha is the girl in "La Vecina" and Isabella is "Luchy", just Google; Natasha / Isabella / Luchy + Culioneros.[/QUOTE]OK man. I see all that other stuff is just you sharing your love and fantasy of mede. Cool. But back to Natasha and Luchy. Are they available?

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1703532]Colombianos find Venezuelan girls beautiful though I don't. The price of Venezuelan pros around Cucuta are higher than Colombian pros.

.[/QUOTE]I personally view the Venezolanas as the most beautiful, physically, in general.

Number 2 are the Colombianas, followed by the Brazillians.

The best I've met for girlfriends or more are the girls of northeastern Brazil, hands down.

Amazing beauty and sweet hearts.

I am in country #45 right now, including every Spanish-speaking country in South America and all but one in Central America, and I concur that venezolanas, on average, are the best looking women in Spanish-speaking Latin America (meaning excluding Brazil, where I have only been on the Amazon, not to any of the cities). Too bad everything else about the country sucks out loud. The most beautiful women overall, I would say, are Danish women. Obviously that depends on your tastes but not too many guys don't like tall, green-eyed blondes. I fucked a Danish tourist a couple of times last month in Guatemala and she was so tall, I had to go [B]up[/B] on her.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1703623]I am in country #45 right now, including every Spanish-speaking country in South America and all but one in Central America, and I concur that venezolanas, on average, are the best looking women in Spanish-speaking Latin America (meaning excluding Brazil, where I have only been on the Amazon, not to any of the cities). Too bad everything else about the country sucks out loud. The most beautiful women overall, I would say, are Danish women. Obviously that depends on your tastes but not too many guys don't like tall, green-eyed blondes. I fucked a Danish tourist a couple of times last month in Guatemala and she was so tall, I had to go [B]up[/B] on her.[/QUOTE]Just goes to show perspective.

A couple Dutch buddies of mine can't stand the Danish girls and just love these Brasileiras!

Just like me!

I can see why Dutch wouldn't be interested in Danes since there are also plenty of tall blonds in The Netherlands. However, to me, the Dutch women are a bit more [I]zaftig[/I] and tend to look more wholesome and apple pie-ish, whereas the Danes have more of a sly and naughty look about them, similar to Slovak women whom I also rate fairly highly. OTOH colombianas have way too much silicone (or whatever they use these days) for me. Also they tend to apply perfume with a Wagner Power Painter and I'm sensitive to that. There are about five brasileras in my hotel in Honduras right now and while all are doable, none is particularly striking. I had a very good looking brasilera I fucked off and on for a couple of years in Argentina but she wasn't a very good person. I'll be studying porto in Portugal later this year and maybe that will motivate me to go to Rio. Or not; I can't take heat and humidity and even less so in my declining years. I can read porto pretty much but I can't understand it.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1703700]I can read porto pretty much but I can't understand it.[/QUOTE]I hear ya brotha.

I came to Brazil speaking pretty good spanish, and picked up portuguese pretty quickly once I decided to study a bit.

The good news is, as you know I'm sure, the basic language structure is the same, with some nuances and pronounciation differences.

I've grown to really like the portuguese language; spanish with a flair.

Do supermarkets in Colombia, ie. Centro Medellin, carry decaf instant coffee? I can't remember. Thanks a lot.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1707226]Do supermarkets in Colombia, ie. Centro Medellin, carry decaf instant coffee? I can't remember. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]Matt -- I don't know if supermarkets carry decaf instant coffee but at Juan Valdez coffee shop I've seen it for sale.

Yes all the big ones do.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1707226]Do supermarkets in Colombia, ie. Centro Medellin, carry decaf instant coffee? I can't remember. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

April 21 2015: Bogota (AFP)
Authorities in Colombia have arrested 298 people in a nationwide operation against child sex offenders, prosecutors said. More than 1,180 arrest warrants were issued for the April 20-21 operation, and 298 people have been detained so far, the office of the country's top prosecutor said. This year, authorities have received 11,729 reports of such crimes involving 12,921 minor victims, they added. The bulk of the crimes were alleged sexual assaults against minors under the age of 14. UNICEF said in its latest report on children in Colombia that 86 percent of sex assault investigations were for crimes against minors.

Please post the article link.

Gracias amigo.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1710750]April 21 2015: Bogota (AFP)
Authorities in Colombia have arrested 298 people in a nationwide operation against child sex offenders, prosecutors said. More than 1,180 arrest warrants were issued for the April 20-21 operation, and 298 people have been detained so far, the office of the country's top prosecutor said. This year, authorities have received 11,729 reports of such crimes involving 12,921 minor victims, they added. The bulk of the crimes were alleged sexual assaults against minors under the age of 14. UNICEF said in its latest report on children in Colombia that 86 percent of sex assault investigations were for crimes against minors.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1710981]Please post the article link. Gracias amigo.[/QUOTE]
http://news.yahoo.com/colombia-arrests-298-sweep-against-child-sex-abuse-033418710.html;_ylt=AwrXnCWoJDhVzVUAODnQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjR0MTVzBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM3BHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--

I have now worked out a plan that gives me; 5 times a year for 5 weeks in Colombia, and sustaining my full-time employment at home! Which though requieres a fix of my current creditstatus, but that is nothing that can be done properly in 7-16 months, depending on which mood I'm into; flojo or juicioso!

That will be living in paradise 50% of my time! A dream comes true, yes, it demands restrictions on how many prepago and novias I can have and what to do with them; but I hope non-economical factors; like going to the gym on a daily basis can substitute to some extent for what money before has bought, and some more language-skills and so on!

I have during the last year, since 2009 and even before, noticed a pattern; "all" females that are attractive are always occupied, from Monday morning to Sunday late Night; even my X-novia in Medellin (currently a very good friend) seems to be occupied 24/7; is that for real or is it an attitude?

I have tons of Sparetime and I can't imagine being occupied 24/7, I would crack immediately!

Last girl, from Latineuro; 30 yo with a 12 yo son; works as nurse full time and then spend 3 hrs and the gym 8 pm-11 pm, on a daily basis; another chica almost the same, and a 3rd etc.

Work, studies, the gym, dominating mother, children, or without one or 2 of this; or even three; always occupied; the 30 yo even complained that extranjeros wanted to chatt with her; "trabajo y tengo compromisos why no tengo tiempo para chatear".

What does this Calvinistic attitude in a Catholic country attitude comes from? The contrast to The Barrio Girls and Prepago / Models are striking; many do litterlarly nothing! If they have to; its "aburrido". And they have kids! And moms!

One paisa friend told me about what is Colombians greatest problem and what is reflected in the corrupt and egoistic (and group egoism) "higher up in the social hierarchy"; let someone else do it; for the lower class its the local government, for the rich its the heavliy underpayed poor; "Mentalidad de pobre".

But then you have the total opposite; persons that work, studies, take care, goes to the gym; and are doing so more than 16 hours a day! And do it for life, My X-novia even goes to the hospital; for being burnt out! Yes, its true, she burns herself out!

The mentality about how to rationalize work has its own Catch 22; the shops are full of people that earn minimum-wage. They can be cut in half if the wages raise to a proper level, lets say + one millon pesos; but can employment keep up with such rationalisations? There are people everywhere, all earning minimum-wage. For a person from Northern Europe; 1/4 do the same work here, much due to a very high capital input, which in turn needs a lot of engineers and lawyers since the system becomes very advanced both technically and juris. When that "wave" comes to Colombia, what will happen with millions of persons that today hope of better payment and will maybe end up unemployed? The mentality is that you care about your own group and / or family; that pattern of conflict prevails, especially in Argentina, where rich and influent families does well, while the whole society does not; and it has been like that since the 60's! Now Argentina experience another cyclical economic crisis, a thing that is now a permanent fenomenen! Which pattern does Colombia follow; is the current growth due to factors that are temporarily good and when they change, low economic growth per capita comes back, poverty, civil war? Much of the investments since 2009 has been a one-time thing since Colombia has been the less worse alternative, chosen before the domestic market or Brazil, that risk / yield has been temporarily to expensive! What happens with all those, 100's of thousands apartments and houses that are being built in Colombia today if the economy slows down after a Greek failure and exit, which will trigger a crisis like that of 1998; followed by Venezuela, Brazil and Argentina (again).

The girls want me (us) to surrender; they say they have no time for socializing; and that men only look for sex; then I (we) have to come with a counter-bid; I" can pay you what you earn if you just blablaha" etc, I seems to me that it is their "strategy" to provoce such male behaviour of being a good provider. One of the long-time most popular girls on Colombiancupid one time forgot to put of her Skype when having discussed a date with me; he was telling her female friend about her strategy; how to treat foreign men so that she got the most out of it; all her beahaviour are more or less a theater; and it is easy to fall in a trap!

They keep you alone to make you feel miserable and then, when you are at your lowest, they "negociate". You, me; we loose!

Its an intelligent strategy; but what is the guy are honestly in love? They then push away a willing family provider? Yes, I'm sure that happens. Since this strategy is actually more of a behaviour than a conscious thought since a reality check seldom is done; "what the other part think is purely presumed, never investigated.

Its typical Colombian; the people have no experience of foreigners and treat us, me like either gods or living wallets in a mix that makes me confused from time to time!

I though this might be of interest:

After considering all of the facts and authorities set forth above, then, the Court finds, under the totality of the unique circumstances of this case, that the imaging and search of the entire contents of Kim's laptop, aided by specialized forensic software, for a period of unlimited duration and an examination of unlimited scope, for the purpose of gathering evidence in a pre-existing investigation, was supported by so little suspicion of ongoing or imminent criminal activity, and was so invasive of Kim's privacy and so disconnected from not only the considerations underlying the breadth of the government's authority to search at the border, but also the border itself, that it was unreasonable.

United States v. Jae Shik Kim, 2015 USA Dist. LEXIS 60306,72-73 (D. The. See. May 8, 2015).

Mexican immigration is really cracking down on any girls traveling to Mexico. Last Friday they flew 13 girls back, including a friend of mine who was coming to visit me, and who has a legitimate job in Santa Marta, a bank account, and had the equivalent of one thousand dollars in her possession. She also had photo copies of my Mexican residency, a copy of my passport, and other identifying documents of mine, as well as a business card of my attorney in Mexico. They told her flat out that they believed she was coming to Mexico to work as a prostitute and the money she was carrying was probably a prepayment by the person or business she would be working for. I have had several girls in the past year vacation with me in Mexico without any problem, but there are now so many girls from South and Central America coming to work as prostitutes that they are cracking down on any females traveling without male companions.

Note: the 13 girls were from various flights and days, but were being held in immigration lock up until they could be put on flights back to there home areas. The 13 left the immigration jail together this past Saturday.

How do you find those girls on Facebook? Do you google online or there is a better way.

Thanks

Latineuro offers many hot girls that want to have a relationship with foreign men.

They want to spend money, but not be "putas".

Travelling, gifts, help her with her university etc; that is OK, some spending loose. But NEVER in a more sex = money -way.

+90% get very offended by this, even if it's +90% the same-same in the end.

Play the good gentleman and let her play the good girl, it works like a charm.

Compared to US / EU prices maybe 10-30% for a girl that is +8 up to 10's!

I just love this [URL]Latineuro.com[/URL] site. All girls look good, very good.

There are other sites; I just use Colombiancupid and Latineuro, anyone uses other sites with good results?

Sponsorship seem to be a form that works out for many girls with very good looks and more class; LegalTender; help us, teach us your "scholarship"-strategy!

The good thing with such relationships; it often leaves time and $$$ for some ST sex activities at the side.

Has anyone from the East Coast used JetBlue to fly into MDE (Medellin), yet? There is a 55 min connection in FLL to change planes if you fly in from the NYC area, I was wondering if that was easy to accomplish. Also if JetBlue misplaced your checked luggage on this routing. Last time I flew United connecting in Bogota, they misplaced my luggage and I had to wait over 48hours for them to get it to me.

On their schedule there is even a 30 min connection but I figure that would be playing with fire?

[QUOTE=Almotu;1741066]Has anyone from the East Coast used JetBlue to fly into MDE (Medellin), yet? There is a 55 min connection in FLL to change planes if you fly in from the NYC area, I was wondering if that was easy to accomplish. Also if JetBlue misplaced your checked luggage on this routing. Last time I flew United connecting in Bogota, they misplaced my luggage and I had to wait over 48hours for them to get it to me.

On their schedule there is even a 30 min connection but I figure that would be playing with fire?[/QUOTE]I'm from Europe, Scandinavia, but should be able to go via NYC-FLL-MDE.

What is the price for the flight?

NYC-FLL.

FLL-MDE.

From CPH (Copenhagen) to FLL to MDE it`s the most economical, but with a lot of hour waiting, complicated flightscheduele. But with detailed planning and some luck it can be both economical and fast. with Norweigan on momondo.com

The best is still CPH-MAD (Madrid)-MDE. There are a place nearby the MAD airport for 27 a night, but you need to stay 3 nights, but if you are recurring traveller it`s not needed. Staying and enjoying 1-3 nights in MAD is`t that bad nor expensive.

Thanks bro!

But he wanted to know about Jet Blue, a low cost carrier. He could always go direct from NY to Medellin on Avianca if that was not a concern.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1741271]But he wanted to know about Jet Blue, a low cost carrier. He could always go direct from NY to Medellin on Avianca if that was not a concern.[/QUOTE]Yes, I understand.

I was just looking at different alternatives and more info. In general.

Searching with [URL]www.momondo.com[/URL]; The best prices I get; flight from NYC (via FLL) to MDE for $US412, October 7th- November 4th with Spirit, JetBlue slighly more expensive.

From FLL only, I get $US 277, with Spirit. JetBlue / Avianca is again more expensive at $US381.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1741066]Has anyone from the East Coast used JetBlue to fly into MDE (Medellin), yet? There is a 55 min connection in FLL to change planes if you fly in from the NYC area, I was wondering if that was easy to accomplish. Also if JetBlue misplaced your checked luggage on this routing. Last time I flew United connecting in Bogota, they misplaced my luggage and I had to wait over 48hours for them to get it to me.

On their schedule there is even a 30 min connection but I figure that would be playing with fire?[/QUOTE]I personally would never do that route again. Unless it were free.

Recently. There was "traffic" at JFK and THEN they tell us that the plane had been "overfueled". Another 45 min delay.

We arrive to FLL like 14 minutes after the other flight was supposed to have left and it was gone baby!

There were 5 of is stranded in FLL for 24 hrs till the next day's flight.

What a joke!

[QUOTE=Almotu;1741066]Has anyone from the East Coast used JetBlue to fly into MDE (Medellin), yet? There is a 55 min connection in FLL to change planes if you fly in from the NYC area, I was wondering if that was easy to accomplish. Also if JetBlue misplaced your checked luggage on this routing. Last time I flew United connecting in Bogota, they misplaced my luggage and I had to wait over 48hours for them to get it to me.

On their schedule there is even a 30 min connection but I figure that would be playing with fire?[/QUOTE]Could be worse. My upcoming flight has a 7 hour layover in FLL. It was either that or pay literally double for a 2-hour layover via another airline. WTF am I going to do in one of the least popular international airports for 7 fucking hours?

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1741271]But he wanted to know about Jet Blue, a low cost carrier. He could always go direct from NY to Medellin on Avianca if that was not a concern.[/QUOTE]I got myself all worked up over nothing. Initially I was going to Rio during Thanksgiving. Prices was around $650 R/T in May on the two frequent flyer programs that I use the most: AA & United. Try booking now and the prices are closer to $800 R/T (AA) and $850 R/T (UA)! So I started looking to changing my destination back to Medellin again (would be trip #3 for 2015) Found JetBlue itinerary at $497 R/T all in, so that's why I am asking about connection time in FLL. But it looks like I fly AA for about $580 R/T, Copa & Avianca for $600 R/T so it looking like I won't be a TrueBlue convert anytime soon.

Lmarcone, with them leaving you stranded, did they compensate you with anything? Hotel room? Travel voucher?

[QUOTE=Almotu;1741431]I got myself all worked up over nothing. Initially I was going to Rio during Thanksgiving. Prices was around $650 R/T in May on the two frequent flyer programs that I use the most: AA & United. Try booking now and the prices are closer to $800 R/T (AA) and $850 R/T (UA)! So I started looking to changing my destination back to Medellin again (would be trip #3 for 2015) Found JetBlue itinerary at $497 R/T all in, so that's why I am asking about connection time in FLL. But it looks like I fly AA for about $580 R/T, Copa & Avianca for $600 R/T so it looking like I won't be a TrueBlue convert anytime soon.

Lmarcone, with them leaving you stranded, did they compensate you with anything? Hotel room? Travel voucher?[/QUOTE]Hotel room and a $20 food voucher.

[QUOTE=Almotu;1741066]Has anyone from the East Coast used JetBlue to fly into MDE (Medellin), yet? There is a 55 min connection in FLL to change planes if you fly in from the NYC area, I was wondering if that was easy to accomplish. Also if JetBlue misplaced your checked luggage on this routing. Last time I flew United connecting in Bogota, they misplaced my luggage and I had to wait over 48hours for them to get it to me.

On their schedule there is even a 30 min connection but I figure that would be playing with fire?[/QUOTE]I am actually taking that route next week so I will let you know how it goes. I am not crazy about the midnight arrival time but whatever, my vacation days are flexible. I have had connecting flights < hour without problems (with Spirit no less). As long as you don't need to check in your bag again you should be fine. Usually in FLL you just need to walk a few steps to the connecting flight.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1741334]I personally would never do that route again. Unless it were free.

Recently. There was "traffic" at JFK and THEN they tell us that the plane had been "overfueled". Another 45 min delay.

We arrive to FLL like 14 minutes after the other flight was supposed to have left and it was gone baby!

There were 5 of is stranded in FLL for 24 hrs till the next day's flight.

What a joke![/QUOTE]Wow. Usually airlines will delay the connecting flight (if it is only 14 minutes) and their next flight is the next day. It will cost less to do this than having to put everyone up in a hotel and food voucher.

[QUOTE=Sun08;1738960]How do you find those girls on Facebook? Do you google online or there is a better way.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Best way is to stay at the Mansion once and start building your network.

I had a six hour layover in Mexico City.

Never again will I fly through Mexico City.

They make you go through Customs, Immigration and Security for nothing.

I was In Transit, but they don't give a fuck.

I could have made an earlier flight back home, if it wasn't for their bullshit.

[QUOTE=JoBobTheClown;1741391]Could be worse. My upcoming flight has a 7 hour layover in FLL. It was either that or pay literally double for a 2-hour layover via another airline. WTF am I going to do in one of the least popular international airports for 7 fucking hours?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1742956]I had a six hour layover in Mexico City.

Never again will I fly through Mexico City.

They make you go through Customs, Immigration and Security for nothing.

I was In Transit, but they don't give a fuck.

I could have made an earlier flight back home, if it wasn't for their bullshit.[/QUOTE]Agree with you 100%. Got to be the most fucked up international airport in the world. My wait times for transit was 1. 5 hrs in lines for immigration.

There was a young lady that fainted waiting in the lines. Out of dehydration after coming off of a 9 HR flight from BA. No airport staff came to help her and they won't let us go get water for her. I used to whine about PVR and CUN airports but MEX makes them look like a dream. Truly pathetic.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1743017]Agree with you 100%. Got to be the most fucked up international airport in the world. My wait times for transit was 1. 5 hrs in lines for immigration.

There was a young lady that fainted waiting in the lines. Out of dehydration after coming off of a 9 HR flight from BA. No airport staff came to help her and they won't let us go get water for her. I used to whine about PVR and CUN airports but MEX makes them look like a dream. Truly pathetic.[/QUOTE]Mexico is fucked BUT I take advantage of duty free tequila to bring home.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1743017]Agree with you 100%. Got to be the most fucked up international airport in the world. My wait times for transit was 1. 5 hrs in lines for immigration.

There was a young lady that fainted waiting in the lines. Out of dehydration after coming off of a 9 HR flight from BA. No airport staff came to help her and they won't let us go get water for her. I used to whine about PVR and CUN airports but MEX makes them look like a dream. Truly pathetic.[/QUOTE]It is the same if you transit through the US. You have to go through immigration and depending which airport you are going through can take up to 1. 5 hrs, then customs and then security.

I used to go to Colombia via Miami, but no more, had enough of the rude immigration officials. I now transit through Panama or Bogota.

When we go to the casa I think most of of look for certain extras (for me, kissing and BBBJ).

How do you guys negotiate that? I try to pick a girl that smiles / etc. I usually negotiate before picking the girl (if I wait, I may get a no). But in this case they often ask for a specific tip. The downside to this is sometimes the extras are done poorly, and I still have promised a tip (so I pay it).

Do people have other approaches to getting better service? I guess its the luck of the draw, but maybe I can improve the odds.

I never had a problem st ctg or mde airport. Was always in and out quick. As far as states I have global pass so I'm out within minutes.

[QUOTE=Superboy1;1743038]It is the same if you transit through the US. You have to go through immigration and depending which airport you are going through can take up to 1. 5 hrs, then customs and then security.

I used to go to Colombia via Miami, but no more, had enough of the rude immigration officials. I now transit through Panama or Bogota.[/QUOTE]

I been to many place in my years of mongering but because of what is happening to the Haitians in the DR I want to try something new. So which city in Colombia would you suggest for my first trip. I am planning this trip as if I'm traveling alone but usually I have a wingman. Planning on staying less then a week and will be flying form ORD so I don't want to waste a lot of time with layovers. Look for something safe with action 24/7 with some tourist area to take photo of. I would appreciate any comments on Bogota, Medellin, Cali and Cartagena good or bad. For a comparison I been to the Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya, Bangkok, San Jose, Panama, Rio, Sosua, Boca Chic and Santa Domingo.

[QUOTE=DickHertz;1745381]I been to many place in my years of mongering but because of what is happening to the Haitians in the DR I want to try something new. So which city in Colombia would you suggest for my first trip. .[/QUOTE]What is happening to Haitians in DR? When I was there last week they looked just fine.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1745413]What is happening to Haitians in DR? When I was there last week they looked just fine.[/QUOTE]The deportation of Haitian or anyone who looks Haitian even if there are citizens of the DR. There was articles in the news last month but the story has died down.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1745413]What is happening to Haitians in DR? When I was there last week they looked just fine.[/QUOTE]I think he's answering the call (from the American media) to boycott Dominican tourism.

Is he a tax-paying DR citizen?

It's their country to do as they please.

Who's to judge? Won't stop me from living my life.

[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1745470]I think he's answering the call (from the American media) to boycott Dominican tourism.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1742956]I had a six hour layover in Mexico City. Never again will I fly through Mexico City. They make you go through Customs, Immigration and Security for nothing. I was In Transit, but they don't give a fuck. I could have made an earlier flight back home, if it wasn't for their bullshit.[/QUOTE]I could never understand why passengers in transit had to go through customs / security etc. At stop overs on international flights back to USA. It's happened to me in Singapore, Dallas, New York, Lima etc. Then I learnt that this that the USA government asked other countries to do after 911. It is annoying and time wasteful and outdated policy.

[QUOTE=LifeIsABeach;1745547]I could never understand why passengers in transit had to go through customs / security etc. At stop overs on international flights back to USA. It's happened to me in Singapore, Dallas, New York, Lima etc. Then I learnt that this that the USA government asked other countries to do after 911. It is annoying and time wasteful and outdated policy.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with the US government. At most airports there is no secure area for people who are only passing through to be while awaiting their next international flight. A person can just walk out of the airport anytime then all of a sudden they are in a country illegally. To keep this from happening the passenger is just processed into the country regardless. A couple of places that immediately stand out where this does not happen are Tokyo Narita, Nagoya, and Bangkok. There you only have to pass through security because there is no way out of their international departure gates without going through immigration and customs.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1745539]Is he a tax-paying DR citizen?

It's their country to do as they please.

Who's to judge? Won't stop me from living my life.[/QUOTE]I am not a resident of DR but where I choose to spend my money is my prerogative.

[QUOTE=DickHertz;1745381]I been to many place in my years of mongering but because of what is happening to the Haitians in the DR I want to try something new. So which city in Colombia would you suggest for my first trip. I am planning this trip as if I'm traveling alone but usually I have a wingman. Planning on staying less then a week and will be flying form ORD so I don't want to waste a lot of time with layovers. Look for something safe with action 24/7 with some tourist area to take photo of. I would appreciate any comments on Bogota, Medellin, Cali and Cartagena good or bad. For a comparison I been to the Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya, Bangkok, San Jose, Panama, Rio, Sosua, Boca Chic and Santa Domingo.[/QUOTE]Wow you beat me to this question. I was just going to post the exact same question on what's the best place in Colombia for my first trip. This will only be my 2nd international trip with the first being Costa Rica. I've not set a date yet though, but Colombia seems to be one of the most hyped. Definitely interested in hearing what fellow board members recommend.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1745581]It has nothing to do with the US government. At most airports there is no secure area for people who are only passing through to be while awaiting their next international flight. A person can just walk out of the airport anytime then all of a sudden they are in a country illegally. To keep this from happening the passenger is just processed into the country regardless. A couple of places that immediately stand out where this does not happen are Tokyo Narita, Nagoya, and Bangkok. There you only have to pass through security because there is no way out of their international departure gates without going through immigration and customs.[/QUOTE]Off topic but I am tempted to respond because I travel a ton and travel topics are of interest to me.

Mr E is right on. It has nothing to do with USA. Like Me E said, most airports do not invest in the infrastructure needed to physically separate transit passengers from exiting passengers.

[QUOTE=DickHertz;1745381]I been to many place in my years of mongering but because of what is happening to the Haitians in the DR I want to try something new. So which city in Colombia would you suggest for my first trip. I am planning this trip as if I'm traveling alone but usually I have a wingman. Planning on staying less then a week and will be flying form ORD so I don't want to waste a lot of time with layovers. Look for something safe with action 24/7 with some tourist area to take photo of. I would appreciate any comments on Bogota, Medellin, Cali and Cartagena good or bad. For a comparison I been to the Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya, Bangkok, San Jose, Panama, Rio, Sosua, Boca Chic and Santa Domingo.[/QUOTE]I have answered this question many times. By that I mean it is good question and worth addressing at least once every six months.

IMHO it is Cartagena. That city meets all your criteria and perfect Colombian city for a first timer who is not on a deep budget.

BTW, unless you stick to Casas and street girls, you will find mongering in big cities in CO more expensive than some of the other places you mongered, especially compared to DR (I Think).

[QUOTE=DickHertz;1745381]I been to many place in my years of mongering but because of what is happening to the Haitians in the DR I want to try something new. So which city in Colombia would you suggest for my first trip. I am planning this trip as if I'm traveling alone but usually I have a wingman. Planning on staying less then a week and will be flying form ORD so I don't want to waste a lot of time with layovers. Look for something safe with action 24/7 with some tourist area to take photo of. I would appreciate any comments on Bogota, Medellin, Cali and Cartagena good or bad. For a comparison I been to the Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya, Bangkok, San Jose, Panama, Rio, Sosua, Boca Chic and Santa Domingo.[/QUOTE]Please excuse my ignorance. Whats up in the DR x Haitians?

My 10 cents is Cartagena or Cali, Beach, water, tourist stuff to do. Girls.

IMO Mede and Bogota Lack the golf, fishing, hiking, etc that the cost cities have to offer. If you're looking for a batchelor party type trip. Drinks, clubs, restaurants, party, party favors; p.

Mede is the way to go with Bogota a distant 4th IMO (I used to go for work, a blessing and a curse).

Prices in Colombia run the gambit. Nothing like SEA cheap. Cheaper than CR, Panama, The Islands and maybe DR.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1746551]Please excuse my ignorance. Whats up in the DR x Haitians?

My 10 cents is Cartagena or Cali, Beach, water, tourist stuff to do. Girls.

IMO Mede and Bogota Lack the golf, fishing, hiking, etc that the cost cities have to offer. If you're looking for a batchelor party type trip. Drinks, clubs, restaurants, party, party favors; p.

Mede is the way to go with Bogota a distant 4th IMO (I used to go for work, a blessing and a curse).

Prices in Colombia run the gambit. Nothing like SEA cheap. Cheaper than CR, Panama, The Islands and maybe DR.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. It looks like my choose have been narrowed between Cartagena and Medellin because Cali is not easy for me fly to.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1745581]It has nothing to do with the US government. [/QUOTE]Actually it is. Check out the state Department. I have missed my connecting flights each and every time. I was hoping that they would get rid off this policy with their last changes to rid off some of their policies, they still stuck with this. Yes, there areaging airports and infrastructure but it has happened to me in new newer airports too. Two unrelated topics.

I am planning a Colombia and Dominican vacation with time split between the two countries. I am trying to build an itinerary of (NYC area) USA to Medellin to Santiago, DR back to the USA (NYC area).

So far I am at about $2,000 in airfare for the three legs. I have to believe that there is a cheaper regional carrier that goes between Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Any of you Latin America travel vets have any tips? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Lou32;1747986]I am planning a Colombia and Dominican vacation with time split between the two countries. I am trying to build an itinerary of (NYC area) USA to Medellin to Santiago, DR back to the USA (NYC area).

So far I am at about $2,000 in airfare for the three legs. I have to believe that there is a cheaper regional carrier that goes between Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Any of you Latin America travel vets have any tips? Thanks![/QUOTE]Colombias go Colobia-Panama-DR so I'd say look for the same path but in reverse. Maybe try one ways I heard it's cheaper.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1748009]Colombias go Colobia-Panama-DR so I'd say look for the same path but in reverse. Maybe try one ways I heard it's cheaper.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the head's up but Panama to Dominican Republic flights are $1,000.

I may just skip the Dominican Republic and head straight to Bogota or Cartagena.

Spirit flies from La Guardia to PTY for $193 plus whatever robbery they charge for your luggage. PTY to SDQ is $500 RT non-stop on Copa and PTY to MDE is $233. MDE to NYC is $253. So you could fly into PTY, do a round trip to SDQ and back to PTY, and then two more one ways. That would cost you around $1,250 with luggage fees on Spirit.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1748467]Spirit flies from La Guardia to PTY for $193 plus whatever robbery they charge for your luggage. PTY to SDQ is $500 RT non-stop on Copa and PTY to MDE is $233. MDE to NYC is $253. So you could fly into PTY, do a round trip to SDQ and back to PTY, and then two more one ways. That would cost you around $1,250 with luggage fees on Spirit.[/QUOTE]Thanks, great info!

Now I just have to ask myself if I'm willing to spend so much time dealing with Spirit but at least that is an option.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1748467] MDE to NYC is $253..[/QUOTE]How come it is so much cheaper to fly MDE-NYC than it is MDE-FLL?

Taking a friend to Colombia next month. He is learning Spanish with some tapes, but does anyone have a list of useful Spanish phrases that he could study?

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1748749]How come it is so much cheaper to fly MDE-NYC than it is MDE-FLL?[/QUOTE]Because there is a larger supply of seats to be sold on the NYC route than the FLL route. Remember Economics 101: the higher the supply, the lower the price. Just like when De Beers took over the diamond market. They limited the supply of diamonds going out so that the price would rise. Diamonds (which are intrinsically worthless - it's a damn rock for goodness sake) could be bought at next to nothing if they put the ones they are hoarding into the market. Same as the oil producing countries do. They slow down the production and the price goes up. Same reason I refuse to pay a lot for pussy. There are billions of them walking around just like acorns falling off of trees. There is nothing that makes one worth $100 in my eyes. Now if you happened to go to some remote location where there were only 2 or 3 pussies available then $100 may be justifiable.

Lou23, I just booked a business class from Ohio to MIA, then from MIA to MDE combined total $450 one way. I timed a few hours layover in MIA so just in case of delays, I will not miss my flight to MDE. I used delta and Avianca, man was it cheap. Also, I fly on Tuesdays as these are the less traffic days so more open seats and less demand. I checked other sites to compare, yes it does take time but I saved about $500 bucks. I know booking a round trip is sometimes cheaper but I am a open end traveler, I leave when I feel like leaving and don't put the pressure to try and do a lot of things in a little time frame. Good luck.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1748944]Lou23, I just booked a business class from Ohio to MIA, then from MIA to MDE combined total $450 one way. I timed a few hours layover in MIA so just in case of delays, I will not miss my flight to MDE. I used delta and Avianca, man was it cheap. Also, I fly on Tuesdays as these are the less traffic days so more open seats and less demand. I checked other sites to compare, yes it does take time but I saved about $500 bucks. I know booking a round trip is sometimes cheaper but I am a open end traveler, I leave when I feel like leaving and don't put the pressure to try and do a lot of things in a little time frame. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Now I'm thinking about Cuba instead, LOL! So many options!

[QUOTE=Lou32;1748976]Thanks. Now I'm thinking about Cuba instead, LOL! So many options![/QUOTE]I did that too! I booked a flight from MDE to Cuba, lay over from Bogota to Cuba. Round trip is $420. I know I just kept it flexible and a day or two saves me $120. Good luck.

[QUOTE=SBeach25;1748994]I did that too! I booked a flight from MDE to Cuba, lay over from Bogota to Cuba. Round trip is $420. I know I just kept it flexible and a day or two saves me $120. Good luck.[/QUOTE]SBeach, which airline did you book MDE to Cuba through? Avianca? Copa?

Thanks in advance.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1749386]SBeach, which airline did you book MDE to Cuba through? Avianca? Copa?

Thanks in advance.

The Tall Man.[/QUOTE]Avaianca.

Just keep your dates flexible. Its cheaper that way.

The problem with Avianca is it is impossible to sleep on their flights. Why? Because their flight attendants are so hot that your dick gets so hard you don't have enough skin left to shut your eyes. My favorite airline.

[QUOTE=IguanaSix;1748751]Taking a friend to Colombia next month. He is learning Spanish with some tapes, but does anyone have a list of useful Spanish phrases that he could study?[/QUOTE]This is a small size phrases book that you can carry and read anywhere.

Here is a link.

[URL]http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-American-Spanish-Phrasebook-Dictionary/dp/1743214472/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1437454625&sr=8-2&keywords=lonely[/URL]+planet+Colombia+spanish.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1749423]The problem with Avianca is it is impossible to sleep on their flights. Why? Because their flight attendants are so hot that your dick gets so hard you don't have enough skin left to shut your eyes. My favorite airline.[/QUOTE]I hope I can sway a number to meet up with one while I'm in MDE. I'll try some charm. LOL. Yeah, I agree. Loved them while traveling to Panama.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1749423]The problem with Avianca is it is impossible to sleep on their flights. Why? Because their flight attendants are so hot that your dick gets so hard you don't have enough skin left to shut your eyes. My favorite airline.[/QUOTE]Cold not agree with you more. Hot, sexy and pleasant!! My favorite airline too. They are cheap too.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1749423]The problem with Avianca is it is impossible to sleep on their flights. Why? Because their flight attendants are so hot that your dick gets so hard you don't have enough skin left to shut your eyes. My favorite airline.[/QUOTE]To me it is because of that shitty headrest that sticks out too far. I want to lay my head back; I don't want it to be pushed forward.

The first is the best, if you can get it.

[URL]http://www.amazon.com/Hot-Spanish-Girls-David-Appell/dp/1885948220[/URL]

[URL]http://www.amazon.com/Spanish-Among-Amigos-Phrasebook-Second/dp/0071754156/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1437490800&sr=1-1&keywords=Spanish[/URL]+Among+Amigos.

[QUOTE=DonSmith10;1749441]This is a small size phrases book that you can carry and read anywhere.

Here is a link.

[URL]http://www.amazon.com/Lonely-American-Spanish-Phrasebook-Dictionary/dp/1743214472/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1437454625&sr=8-2&keywords=lonely[/URL]+planet+Colombia+spanish.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lou32;1747986]I am planning a Colombia and Dominican vacation with time split between the two countries. I am trying to build an itinerary of (NYC area) USA to Medellin to Santiago, DR back to the USA (NYC area).

So far I am at about $2,000 in airfare for the three legs. I have to believe that there is a cheaper regional carrier that goes between Colombia and the Dominican Republic. Any of you Latin America travel vets have any tips? Thanks![/QUOTE]I don't know current Price but Insel air will get you from MDE to DR.

Howdy guys!

European guy here.

Been doing some wild stuff on the european scene (mostly Germany ffk and prague) but dream of planting my feet on south american soil and look for the talent.

Aint got no spanish under my belt but hope to learn some basic this fall.

Anyways, I am a newbie and want to know what country or countries wud be the best bet for me. I love latinas.

Peace.

Mr adams.

[QUOTE=MrAdams;1753661]Howdy guys!
European guy here.
Been doing some wild stuff on the european scene (mostly Germany ffk and prague) but dream of planting my feet on south american soil and look for the talent.
Aint got no spanish under my belt but hope to learn some basic this fall.
Anyways, I am a newbie and want to know what country or countries wud be the best bet for me. I love latinas.
Peace.
Mr adams.[/QUOTE]Now are we to take you seriously? You have been posting for several years on different boards but only with questions. Not a single report or accounts and tips to help others based on your "wild stuff" in Europe. A schoolboy perhaps?

On the offchance that you are not a troll, some basics are, South America is like a different universe. There is plentiful options in every country you go to, and cheaper than Europe. Brazil, the largest country, speaks Portuguese, not Spanish, and has some of the most sophisticated and varied options. It is vast, with roughly the land mass of all of Europe and covers three time zones, so not much point in giving you a whole wiki on the subject of paid sex until you are more up to speed. The choice of country, until you know them, is more likely to depend on things like your available cash for airfares, what you want to do other than sex and, if you were a budget traveller, how good you are at learning to be streetwise quickly.

But so far, you are all questions and no input. Has it never occurred to you that this is a forum where mongers try to [I]help each other[/I].

[QUOTE=MrAdams;1753661]Howdy guys!

European guy here.

Been doing some wild stuff on the european scene (mostly Germany ffk and prague) but dream of planting my feet on south american soil and look for the talent.

Aint got no spanish under my belt but hope to learn some basic this fall.

Anyways, I am a newbie and want to know what country or countries wud be the best bet for me. I love latinas.

Peace.

Mr adams.[/QUOTE]I will respond to your question in the hope you will write a trip report after you make your choice.

I will only comment on the spots I have visited so there could be better choices for you than I am commenting on.

1. Peru- So many things to do, and see. Great food, and women.

2. Colombia- A no brainer.

3. Nicaragua- Quite a few drawbacks, but a good spot once you learn the ropes.

4. Costa Rica- Expensive, but hits the spot.

5. DR- Nice beaches, but a place where you have to be on your toes.

6. Mexico- Mostly over priced. Not my cup of tea.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1753844]I will respond to your question in the hope you will write a trip report after you make your choice.

I will only comment on the spots I have visited so there could be better choices for you than I am commenting on.

1. Peru- So many things to do, and see. Great food, and women.

2. Colombia- A no brainer.

3. Nicaragua- Quite a few drawbacks, but a good spot once you learn the ropes.

4. Costa Rica- Expensive, but hits the spot.

5. DR- Nice beaches, but a place where you have to be on your toes.

6. Mexico- Mostly over priced. Not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]John Gault,

I have been to Medellin a couple times and it is an obvious no brainer (I have tried to contribute a bit on the Medellin board for other newbies). However you seem to rank Peru above Colombia. Never even considered Peru, is all the action in Lima? Is this a viable option for a non-Spanish speaker? How do you rate this compared to Medellin?

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1753844]I will respond to your question in the hope you will write a trip report after you make your choice.

I will only comment on the spots I have visited so there could be better choices for you than I am commenting on.

1. Peru- So many things to do, and see. Great food, and women.

2. Colombia- A no brainer.

3. Nicaragua- Quite a few drawbacks, but a good spot once you learn the ropes.

4. Costa Rica- Expensive, but hits the spot.

5. DR- Nice beaches, but a place where you have to be on your toes.

6. Mexico- Mostly over priced. Not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]What you failed to mention is it has been years and years since you have been in some of these places due to you falling in love, so things quite possibly have changed.

[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1753891]John Gault,

I have been to Medellin a couple times and it is an obvious no brainer (I have tried to contribute a bit on the Medellin board for other newbies). However you seem to rank Peru above Colombia. Never even considered Peru, is all the action in Lima? Is this a viable option for a non-Spanish speaker? How do you rate this compared to Medellin?

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Both have great weather while Lima does a winter, but it is mild. Lima is a great, and very safe city if you stay in the Mira Flores area. The food in Lima is the best in my travels. There seemed to me to be more English spoken in Lima then MDE. The price of fun is more reasonable in MDE then Lima by quite a bit. So that is a drawback if you travel a little light in the pocket. I like Lima better as I can go to a great sports bar in Lima, and bet horses, and sports. After all how much mongering can you take?

[QUOTE=OldParr;1753897]What you failed to mention is it has been years and years since you have been in some of these places due to you falling in love, so things quite possibly have changed.[/QUOTE]It has been about 18 months since I'll been to Colombia, and about four, and a half years since Lima. In the time since I have followed the boards in both citys, and the only thing that has seemed to change is a better exchange rate favoring the dollar.

Of course if I have been outdated then fellows who have been in these spots lately can step in to air their opinions.

As for you I think Mexico is where you can import your vast expertise while fellows like Hilltopper have become the new CTG go to guy. You were once great in that area, but as they say in horse racing (you can't keep up the pace) .

As far as falling in love well that is what makes the world go round.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1753844]I will respond to your question in the hope you will write a trip report after you make your choice.

I will only comment on the spots I have visited so there could be better choices for you than I am commenting on.

1. Peru- So many things to do, and see. Great food, and women.

2. Colombia- A no brainer.

3. Nicaragua- Quite a few drawbacks, but a good spot once you learn the ropes.

4. Costa Rica- Expensive, but hits the spot.

5. DR- Nice beaches, but a place where you have to be on your toes.

6. Mexico- Mostly over priced. Not my cup of tea.[/QUOTE]An extremely notable omission - Brasil.

[QUOTE=MrAdams;1753661]Howdy guys!

European guy here.

Been doing some wild stuff on the european scene (mostly Germany ffk and prague) but dream of planting my feet on south american soil and look for the talent.

Aint got no spanish under my belt but hope to learn some basic this fall.

Anyways, I am a newbie and want to know what country or countries wud be the best bet for me. I love latinas.

Peace.

Mr adams.[/QUOTE]I'll make my pitch for Medellin. This gives me an opportunity to share a video (now 8 years old) that's a tribute to the girls of Medellin. I spend about one-third of my time in Medellin and I'm in the dis-accumulation phase of my life. For several years have provided scholarships for half a dozen girls in Medellin. Reviewable after each semester. That's whose on my menu. But if it's a 30 minute sexual interlude for less than twenty bucks, you can't beat visiting one of the many houses of pleasure that are ubiquitous in Medellin. Medellin is called the "Ciudad de la Eterna Primavera" - the City of Eternal Spring for a reason. The climate is "perfecto. " The people are friendly, and in my experience, the most beautiful and sexual women available. There is truth in advertising sometimes: The only problem with Colombia is that you'll never want to leave. Digressing, I don't post often but for some members who have not seen it, and for guaranteed revisit of fond memories for the veterans, enjoy this: [URL]https://youtu.be/vfjw28fSVfI[/URL].

Only good energy!

[QUOTE=Combo;1754223]An extremely notable omission - Brasil.[/QUOTE]Yes Brasil most surely would be on my list, but I stated I only rated spots I visited.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1754398] I don't post often but for some members who have not seen it, and for guaranteed revisit of fond memories for the veterans, enjoy this: [URL]https://youtu.be/vfjw28fSVfI[/URL].

Only good energy![/QUOTE]Legal Tender. Thanks for the link to your video, Medellin girls really know how to rock a pair of jeans and a tank top (of course it would be nice to somehow import the yoga pant trend as their flat stomachs and excellent backsides would look perfect in them). Just shockingly beautiful. Been there twice this year and looking to get back for a longer trip over Christmas. Hoping to play Santa there. You ever been at the Mansion at Christmas (last 2 weeks of December)? How is it then?

I don't think ANY of those girls are still in circulation.

Alee Quintero, Geraldine an Eliana Marcela are though! LOL.

Oldies but goodies.

[QUOTE=Hutzesq;1754459]Legal Tender. Thanks for the link to your video, Medellin girls really know how to rock a pair of jeans and a tank top (of course it would be nice to somehow import the yoga pant trend as their flat stomachs and excellent backsides would look perfect in them). Just shockingly beautiful. Been there twice this year and looking to get back for a longer trip over Christmas. Hoping to play Santa there. You ever been at the Mansion at Christmas (last 2 weeks of December)? How is it then?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1754411]Yes Brasil most surely would be on my list, but I stated I only rated spots I visited.[/QUOTE]The only thing on your list is actually Florida where you have permitted a girl to put a ball and chain around your ankles. Pussy whipped is another expression to describe it. Sad but true, and now you are to scared to experience the life a monger again because of the fear of a woman. I am just keeping it real. I find it very sad when a grown ass man permits a woman to control and influence his decision making. Where I am from it is a called being a sissy, and it is looked down upon as being weak.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1754677]I don't think ANY of those girls are still in circulation.

Alee Quintero, Geraldine an Eliana Marcela are though! LOL.

Oldies but goodies.[/QUOTE]I remember this video. It was a plus on why I should study spanish in Colombia vs Peru or Costa Rica. LOL. Yeah, some girls do seam to survive the test of time.

Whats up fellas.

First off I'm Latino and Spanish speaker and I enjoy traveling to Mexico. I have read a lot about Colombia and its beautiful girls. I'm interested in Non-Pros in the college age range. To those who are experts on this region what do you is your advice to me to make this trip a successful one.

Thanks for your responses in advance.

NV365

[QUOTE=Needvacation365;1755064]Whats up fellas.

First off I'm Latino and Spanish speaker and I enjoy traveling to Mexico. I have read a lot about Colombia and its beautiful girls. I'm interested in Non-Pros in the college age range. To those who are experts on this region what do you is your advice to me to make this trip a successful one.

Thanks for your responses in advance.

NV365[/QUOTE]You're asking about non pros on a working girl message board? LOL!!

Time. If you have a long trip planned, speak Spanish (as stated you do) and are decently handsome than you should have no problem. You meet girls in Mexico, Colombia, Boston, LA, Las Vegas, etc the same way. You say Hello!

If she thinks your attractive you're good to go. If not see you later and move on. Having money is a plus and prob a must as well. Pussy ain't never free, drinks, diner, taxi. That's all on you and if you think you're going 50/50 think again!

You. If you are young (either of age or heart. Please guys don't start the young vs old debate and the tired ass argument that "Some girls like older guys. " We all know what side the butter is buttered)) good looking, language skills (check), smart funny, out going, cool, interesting, in good shape, good dancer (said you're Latino so I'm going to check that off ahhahha) and have money, well dressed. You'll be fine.

Than you'll be fine. At least a combo of these things; be the best you possible. If you're some creepy, old (or mind no just body. Plase guys) gross slob, bald in a bad way (George Castanza vs Vin Diesel), dressed like you stepped off a cruise ship (IE not appropriately, not funny, not interesting, not cool, not a good dancer. You're not getting laid anywhere!

Recap:

Normal girls are the same in any and every country, clubs, malls, bars, everywhere, Bartenders and waitresses are always the hardest pulls because they get chatted up all the time!

You always pay; gas grass or ass nobody rides the pussy wagon for free.

Be the best you can be. If you more of the negative traits than the positive you need to look in the mirror and try to improve yourself. Best foot forward and all that good stuff.

PLEASE guys don't start the Old vs Young argument. If you're of advanced years and pulling chicks it's probably because you always have dud to the traits on the good list. Good for you! And Keep on rocking out!

If you ain't pulling chicks back home there is a reason why. Lots of young guys DO NOT have game either!

This will be trump to the Old vs Young argument. When we go out do we look for the old, chubby, worn out, lady in the ill fitting dress? Or do we go look for the young, thin / shapely, alive and happy, girl in the tight sexy dress?

We are just talking about getting laid here guys.

Real talk. And yes I pull girls back home and non pros. FYI so you know I'm not full of shit.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1754720]The only thing on your list is actually Florida where you have permitted a girl to put a ball and chain around your ankles. Pussy whipped is another expression to describe it. Sad but true, and now you are to scared to experience the life a monger again because of the fear of a woman. I am just keeping it real. I find it very sad when a grown ass man permits a woman to control and influence his decision making. Where I am from it is a called being a sissy, and it is looked down upon as being weak.[/QUOTE]Wow it took you 3 days to think up this post?

If having a real relationship with a non pro is what you call being weak then I guess you have a called a lot of members on ISG weak also.

LOL.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1755268]Wow it took you 3 days to think up this post?

If having a real relationship with a non pro is what you call being weak then I guess you have a called a lot of members on ISG weak also.

LOL.[/QUOTE]The difference is they still monger and enjoy the fruits of Colombia and other places, but are not scared to venture out in fear of what another woman may think. That is the big difference. Hope to see you venture out again in the near future.

[QUOTE=Needvacation365;1755064]Whats up fellas.

First off I'm Latino and Spanish speaker and I enjoy traveling to Mexico. I have read a lot about Colombia and its beautiful girls. I'm interested in Non-Pros in the college age range. To those who are experts on this region what do you is your advice to me to make this trip a successful one.

Thanks for your responses in advance.

NV365[/QUOTE]I suggest you try the internet dating sites prior to your arrival.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1755254]You're asking about non pros on a working girl message board? LOL!!

Time. If you have a long trip planned, speak Spanish (as stated you do) and are decently handsome than you should have no problem. You meet girls in Mexico, Colombia, Boston, LA, Las Vegas, etc the same way. You say Hello!

If she thinks your attractive you're good to go. If not see you later and move on. Having money is a plus and prob a must as well. Pussy ain't never free, drinks, diner, taxi. That's all on you and if you think you're going 50/50 think again!

You. If you are young (either of age or heart. Please guys don't start the young vs old debate and the tired ass argument that "Some girls like older guys. " We all know what side the butter is buttered)) good looking, language skills (check), smart funny, out going, cool, interesting, in good shape, good dancer (said you're Latino so I'm going to check that off ahhahha) and have money, well dressed. You'll be fine.

Than you'll be fine. At least a combo of these things; be the best you possible. If you're some creepy, old (or mind no just body. Plase guys) gross slob, bald in a bad way (George Castanza vs Vin Diesel), dressed like you stepped off a cruise ship (IE not appropriately, not funny, not interesting, not cool, not a good dancer. You're not getting laid anywhere!..[/QUOTE]First of all thanks for your long response. I appreciate it.

I'm not of old age. So you can scratch that. I get what you're saying about you got to be yourself and if you can't pick up girls here you can't pick up girls there. That is all well in good. And it makes sense in a uniform world. But what I have learned from my travels is that girls vary from country to country and you better believe from city to pueblo based on their culture, economic status etc. Ii think you touched on that a little bit.

What I really want to know is the ins and outs of female pursuit in Colombia. Mostly where are the cities I should consider what places I should spend my time malls beaches etc. Is flirting with these girls a safety risk etc.

I made up a list a few years ago for Medellin.

You can start there.

[QUOTE=Needvacation365;1755064]Whats up fellas.

First off I'm Latino and Spanish speaker and I enjoy traveling to Mexico. I have read a lot about Colombia and its beautiful girls. I'm interested in Non-Pros in the college age range. To those who are experts on this region what do you is your advice to me to make this trip a successful one.

Thanks for your responses in advance.

NV365[/QUOTE]

One brunette, one blond and one black girl.

But they have seen the inside of the mansion- so are they still "non-pro"?

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1755719]I made up a list a few years ago for Medellin.

You can start there.[/QUOTE]

I have like 750 reals from past Brazil trip, will I be able to exchange them for pesos? Any body know?

[QUOTE=RacShack;1755873]I have like 750 reals from past Brazil trip, will I be able to exchange them for pesos? Any body know?[/QUOTE]Always change to USD, euro, or GBP first. You will get screwed royally going from minor currency to minor currency.

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1755254]You're asking about non pros on a working girl message board? LOL!!

Having money is a plus and prob a must as well. Pussy ain't never free. . . .

Please guys don't start the young vs old debate and the tired ass argument that "Some girls like older guys. "

If you're some creepy, old (or mind no just body. Plase guys). . .

Recap:

You always pay; gas grass or ass nobody rides the pussy wagon for free.

PLEASE guys don't start the Old vs Young argument.

This will be trump to the Old vs Young argument.

We are just talking about getting laid here guys.

FYI so you know I'm not full of shit.[/QUOTE]There is no such thing as free sex. Our daddy's didn't get it, and neither do we. Women want security and protection, even though what gives them that is subjective. To some it's the latest cell phone, to others it's being able to take care of a child, parent or grandparent or just survive modestly. Some require a promise of a lifetime others offer a few hours of their time for a gift of appreciation. Now that truth makes this banter about young and old disrespectful and irrelevant. Youth and it's attributes have demonstrable benefits, burdened by lack of experience and proven stability. That's why it's called youth. Women aren't nearly as visually orientated as men are. For very 100 tit bars there might be one strip club featuring men for women.

It isn't even a thick wallet that attracts women, it's being interested in them and their lives, even if you only spend a night or afternoon. And, not surprisingly there is an appreciation for stability, success and maturity. Everyone recognizes class, and yes it's obvious that you're not full of shit.

Only good energy, amigo.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1755957]Always change to USD, euro, or GBP first. You will get screwed royally going from minor currency to minor currency.[/QUOTE]Are you saying do that over their in Bogota? And then change to pesos.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1756049]There is no such thing as free sex. Our daddy's didn't get it, and neither do we. Women want security and protection, even though what gives them that is subjective. To some it's the latest cell phone, to others it's being able to take care of a child, parent or grandparent or just survive modestly. Some require a promise of a lifetime others offer a few hours of their time for a gift of appreciation. Now that truth makes this banter about young and old disrespectful and irrelevant. Youth and it's attributes have demonstrable benefits, burdened by lack of experience and proven stability. That's why it's called youth. Women aren't nearly as visually orientated as men are. For very 100 tit bars there might be one strip club featuring men for women.

It isn't even a thick wallet that attracts women, it's being interested in them and their lives, even if you only spend a night or afternoon. And, not surprisingly there is an appreciation for stability, success and maturity. Everyone recognizes class, and yes it's obvious that you're not full of shit.

Only good energy, amigo.[/QUOTE]Oh legal! Couldn't resist eh? Hahhaha! I addressed the "pussy never free" in my original post and keep in mind the OG poster was talking about picking up "non-pros" not how to get a wife. That being said YOUNG has a huge roll in the game of attraction. We're talking about a sprint you're talking about a marathon.

First one to convince this girl to bed wins! LOL! I'll put my money on the young handsome guy 10/10 times and twice on Sunday. The rest you're talking about is what matters in the long run, building a bond and relationship, nobody talking about that! LOL! Even if it came down to two guys in their 50-60's fighting over a girl; a young pretty girl. Everything being close if not equal except one guy was handsome? WHo she going to pick? The handsome guy! Looks matter! Youth Matters!

[URL]https://screen.yahoo.com/sexual-harassment-000000677.html[/URL] this SNL sketch sums it up. Truth in humor.

"Women want security and protection." Actually they want security usually means financial security and stability and attention! I've said it 100 x times! Attention from the guy they want not just any old compliment. See linked Video above.

"It isn't even a thick wallet that attracts women,. " I bed to differ and there are several places such as LA, Miami, NYC, Las Vegas where this claim falls flat. As some rich guy will have several hot women with him. It's not for the conversation or because he is interesting!

You ever have a dating site girl or FB chica ask you to send her a picture? It's not to see if you're a nice guy! It's to see how gross or handsome you are. Even working girls don't want to sleep with gross dudes. They just put up with it. Looks matter en every aspect of our lives!

According to Bloomberg Exchange this morning, its 2965 COP to the $1.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1756643]According to Bloomberg Exchange this morning, its 2965 COP to the $1.[/QUOTE]Damn your not kidding - 2,965! I think its time to change my plans for my upcoming Cuba trip to Colombia!

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=RacShack;1756071]Are you saying do that over their in Bogota? And then change to pesos.[/QUOTE]You should have done it before leaving the country that the currency is from. You are subject to lose 20% of what it is really worth trying to exchange minor currencies by swapping in a different country. And it is definitely not a good idea to use the exchange places in the USA. I would just save it for the next trip to Brazil.

Hi,

I was wondering if anybody knows number to good driver for Bogota, English speaking, I checked list tried to call a couple but numbers rather disconnect or don't speak English!

Thanks for any help!

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1756049]

It isn't even a thick wallet that attracts women, it's being interested in them and their lives, even if you only spend a night or afternoon. And, not surprisingly there is an appreciation for stability, success and maturity. Everyone recognizes class, and yes it's obvious that you're not full of shit.

Only good energy, amigo.[/QUOTE]It appears that the Colombian society today is like the west in the 80's- people are fascinated by material wealth. Driving BMW and having a big screen TV is fashionable to them. It doesn't matter if you have read Shakespeare or know the Marriage of Figaro, or have contributed tons of money to academic institutions. You will look good and trendy if you wear $200 jeans and have a nice apartment. To the most people in Colombia, the price determines the value, rather than vice versa.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1761605]It appears that the Colombian society today is like the west in the 80's- people are fascinated by material wealth. Driving BMW and having a big screen TV is fashionable to them.[/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with Colombia. That has to do with being young. I am 43 and have owned 2 Lexus in the past 17 years. In high school, college, and the military I was the Polo kid. Now I shop at Goodwill and if I ever need another car then it will be a used Toyota Corolla.

"Laptop Evidence Suppressed, Feds Drop Criminal Case Against Businessman.

Investigators can't treat a laptop like a handbag during warrantless border searches, Judge Amy Berman Jackson in Washington held. ".

In her order suppressing the laptop evidence, Jackson wrote:

"The imaging and search of the entire contents of Kim’s laptop, aided by specialized forensic software, for a period of unlimited duration and an examination of unlimited scope, for the purpose of gathering evidence in a pre-existing investigation, was supported by so little suspicion of ongoing or imminent criminal activity, and was so invasive of Kim’s privacy and so disconnected from not only the considerations underlying the breadth of the government’s authority to search at the border, but also the border itself, that it was unreasonable."


Read more: http://www.nationallawjournal.com/legaltimes/id=1202735022176/Laptop-Evidence-Suppressed-Feds-Drop-Criminal-Case-Against-Businessman#ixzz3jIC9tN41

According to Bloomberg Exchange the Colombian Peso is trading at 3,022 to the US dollar. Finally went over the 3 K mark; dollar going a lot further now.

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1761605]It appears that the Colombian society today is like the west in the 80's- people are fascinated by material wealth. Driving BMW and having a big screen TV is fashionable to them. It doesn't matter if you have read Shakespeare or know the Marriage of Figaro, or have contributed tons of money to academic institutions. You will look good and trendy if you wear $200 jeans and have a nice apartment. To the most people in Colombia, the price determines the value, rather than vice versa.[/QUOTE]Not sure why you specify the 80's. It seems to me the West / the US hasn't changed much in their enthusiasm for "things" in the 90's, 2000's, or 2010's. In fact I'd say our society is as materialistic right now as it's ever been.

The peso- dollar exchange makes me want to spend December in Colombia.

I heard that it can grow to 3500 pesos for a $.

Just got here yesterday and am staying in Poblado. The international exchange rate is over 3100 to the dollar but no one will give me more than 2850. At the airport, there were two exchange rates at the cambios. One was 2850 and the other was 2860. So I changed just enough to get to Poblado thinking it is always better in town. Tried three exchange houses and all were stuck at 2850 so I went to BancoColombia and stood in line only to find out that is what they are paying as well.

Finally, I used the ATM which gave me 3100 but that rate doesn't factor in the bank charges. Got to get a Schwab card.

I uunderstand that everybody needs to make a little money in the money exchange business but this seems exorbitant.

The key words in your post are "airport" and "Poblado."

10 part series on Netflix.

[URL]https://www.netflix.com/title/80025172[/URL]

I have watched two so far, it is very interesting.

Netflix is free for the first 30 days.

The series is complete, so you can watch the whole thing before 30 days.

Oh yes, there are a lot of beautiful chicas in the movie. Lot's of sex.

I haven't been to Colombia in about 2 years. Is Viagra still readily available OTC in every pharmacy?

[QUOTE=DadFun555;1768745]I haven't been to Colombia in about 2 years. Is Viagra still readily available OTC in every pharmacy?[/QUOTE]Yes, the generic product. About 50 to 80 cents per 50 MG depending on the pharmacia.

In fact, you have many options now.

Spray generic Viagra ("Lysto") - spray under tongue about 15 minutes before. Very good as a quick booster.

Chewable generic Viagra. Gets into your system a bit faster than regular.

Liquid Cialis (generic) - haven't tried it, but some guys swear by it.

[QUOTE=DadFun555;1768745]I haven't been to Colombia in about 2 years. Is Viagra still readily available OTC in every pharmacy?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;1768801]In fact, you have many options now.

Liquid Cialis (generic) - haven't tried it, but some guys swear by it.[/QUOTE]I'd be interesting in knowing where to find / buy this product in Medellin. I asked at least ten different pharmacies if they carried generic Cialis which is Tadalafil. None offered the liquid product to me. That was in February so maybe something has changed. But strange that they'd have it in one form and not another.

Guys, not too long ago I met a fantastic girl in Brazil.

The more time we spend together, the better we get along, the more I respect and admire her and the more I genuinely care and love her.

The chemestry between us is crazy good!

I mongered for a long time, and had lots of fun, however, the time was right for me to find someone "special".

Being together and traveling together and knowing that someone really 'digs' me is great and totally satisfies me.

The 'mongering game' is obviously fun and enjoyable, and I wish all you guys the best of the best in your travels.

I still get on the ISG, mainly to get some chuckles, check up on old mates, give a little advice at times, and make some occassional sarcastic remarks.

Thats all great! However.

The funny thing is and the main reason I'm sharing this is to say it's just crazy how there is a member of this ISG that messages my girlfriend to tell her I'm still posting on the ISG (she already knew about the site itself), that I'm posting about hook-ups (which I'm not), and that I'm generally a lying scumbag and that she should be with him, even though he's never even met her in person. Crazy guy for real!

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so pathetic really.

I've told my girlfriend everything about my past, and I know of hers.

We've put it in the past.

I'm happy now, only with her.

We talk about this guy too, that writes her, and it just baffles me how pathetic this dude is.

Dude, I know you'll read this post.

I know who you are, I'm a nice guy, but not stupid, and neither is she.

Just move on with your life.

Between Brazil and Colombia, you have literally millions of other girls to choose from!

I feel sad for you, for your actions, however, I wish you luck in moving on.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1769692]

Dude, I know you'll read this post.

[/QUOTE]Ricker you would be doing everyone a service if you outed the guy. If the person isn't trustworthy, members need to know. Buena suerte.

You can get it in the gift shop at the Mansion.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1769020]I'd be interesting in knowing where to find / buy this product in Medellin. I asked at least ten different pharmacies if they carried generic Cialis which is Tadalafil. None offered the liquid product to me. That was in February so maybe something has changed. But strange that they'd have it in one form and not another.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/[/URL]

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1770251][URL]http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/[/URL][/QUOTE]Oh Crap. I hope that that guy is not an ISG member and that the website CR authorities are accusing the American of promoting sex tourism is not ISG because then we will be all guilty. Here is another link from Spanish newspaper site [URL]http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/elmundo/detenido-un-estadounidense-promocionar-turismo-sexual-c-articulo-584054[/URL].

[QUOTE=LocoGringo;1770251][URL]http://qcostarica.com/american-arrested-in-costa-rica-for-promoting-sex-tourism/[/URL][/QUOTE]Isn't that Cubadave? I think Cubadave is 64 or 65 just like the guy arrested. Cubadave sort of left DR as fav P4P destination for CR after given a hard time in DR and being accused of promoting sex tourism there. I am curious if this the same guy because he is well known sex tourist, CR is now his fav destination, the age is close to the guy arrested, and is not the first time Cubadave is accused of promoting sex tourism. Any intel?

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1770286]Isn't that Cubadave? I think Cubadave is 64 or 65 just like the guy arrested. Cubadave sort of left DR as fav P4P destination for CR after given a hard time in DR and being accused of promoting sex tourism there. I am curious if this the same guy because he is well known sex tourist, CR is now his fav destination, the age is close to the guy arrested, and is not the first time Cubadave is accused of promoting sex tourism. Any intel?[/QUOTE]Just to answer my own post. Yes that was Cubadave and he is screwed. He is in jail. His sites are down and can't even find the youtube videos.

Cerebro

[QUOTE=Cerebro;1770286]Isn't that Cubadave? I think Cubadave is 64 or 65 just like the guy arrested. Cubadave sort of left DR as fav P4P destination for CR after given a hard time in DR and being accused of promoting sex tourism there. I am curious if this the same guy because he is well known sex tourist, CR is now his fav destination, the age is close to the guy arrested, and is not the first time Cubadave is accused of promoting sex tourism. Any intel?[/QUOTE]Man Mongering is meant to be in the shadows. A countries dirty little secret and when you broad cast that little secret and point a spot light on yourself. What you think going to happen?

He was warned and warned again, then given a hard time in DR and now. Reap what you sow.

Smile be nice and don't draw attention to yourself you ain't a Kardashian for crying out loud!

[QUOTE=SlamCity7777;1771718]Man Mongering is meant to be in the shadows. A countries dirty little secret and when you broad cast that little secret and point a spot light on yourself. What you think going to happen?

He was warned and warned again, then given a hard time in DR and now. Reap what you sow.

Smile be nice and don't draw attention to yourself you ain't a Kardashian for crying out loud![/QUOTE]He surely made some mistakes, but he was very helpful with the intel he provided. The sad part is he is now in a terrible place for being helpful to the Mongering community.

I wish him well.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1771954]He surely made some mistakes, but he was very helpful with the intel he provided. The sad part is he is now in a terrible place for being helpful to the Mongering community.

I wish him well.[/QUOTE]Contribute to the Cuba Dave Legal Defense Fund.
For some reason it doesn't open.

Florida Keys News.

Wednesday, September 16,2015.

'Cuba Dave' arrested in Costa Rica.

Traveler nabbed on prostitution charge.

BY ADAM LINHARDT Citizen Staff.

[EMAIL]alinhardt@keysnews.com[/EMAIL]

A 65-year-old Key West man who has long offered online tips for men seeking female companionship in the Caribbean and Latin America is being held in a Costa Rica prison on allegations he violated the country's prostitution laws.

Costa Rica authorities arrested David "Cuba Dave" Strecker on Sept. 4 at Juan Santamaria airport, while he was attempting to fly back to the USA, on charges he was promoting sex tourism by way of his blog and other online activities, Strecker said, in a phone interview with The Citizen from San Sebastiáand prison in San Jose.

Strecker faces at least four years in prison if he is convicted. A judge has denied him bail, deeming him to be a flight risk, Strecker said.

His Facebook pages, such as "CubaDave in Costa Rica," among others, appears to have been taken down. His website [URL]cubadave.com[/URL] — once filled with pictures of women and descriptions of his various sexual escapades as well as tips for others on topics ranging from avoiding [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] prostitutes to practical advise on transportation and hotels — now only features a synopsis of his current legal quagmire with links to [URL]PayPal.com[/URL] to help him pay for legal fees.

In a Miami New Times newspaper profile in 2013, Strecker described his travel philosophy and was referred to as a "self- described sex addict. " That profile featured a picture of his bedroom that was wallpapered with photos of women he reportedly had sex with at least a dozen times.

That profile also stated Strecker was detained in Sosua, Dominican Republic in October 2013 and had his laptop, cellphone and camera confiscated.

Strecker said he is accused of violating a 2012 Coast Rica law that makes it illegal for a third party to profit on prostitution, though prostitution itself remains legal there. He added that he is the first person to be arrested on the charge, according to his Costa Rican lawyer.

The construction worker said he was in Costa Rica for a 12-day vacation and that he has been visiting the country for more than a decade.

Strecker downplayed the sexual nature of his travels, saying that he provides tips to travelers on a wide range of things, from transportation to sightseeing advice, but admitted that he does often give advice on how to safely have sex with women for money.

Strecker is not accused of having sex with minors. He was adamant that he has never engaged in such activity and that he has never suggested to others where such activity can be found, not only in Costa Rica, but in other countries he's long visited — mainly Cuba and the Dominican Republic.

"In their mind, by me posting things or telling others how to safely do this, I'm promoting prostitution," Strecker said. "There are lots of other things to do in Costa Rica. That part of it is only part of the trip, but they're trying to make this look like that's all my focus is. ".

Strecker said the authorities were tipped off by an anonymous source. He believes that source is a former business associate who helped operate some of his websites or blogs who double-crossed him to avoid prosecution. The Citizen could not reach Costa Rican authorities and has no way to substantiate that allegation.

Ashley Garrigus, a spokeswoman for the Bureau of Consular Affairs with the USA Department of State in Washington the. See. , said the USA Embassy in San Jose was closed on Tuesday and the government was working on verifying Strecker's status in Costa Rica.

"Unfortunately, for privacy reasons, we can't always comment" on pending matters, she added.

Key West resident Hank Allen met Strecker in Cuba in 2003 and formerly worked with him at the same airline.

"I don't agree with everything that Dave does, but did he break the law?" Allen asked. "Prostitution is legal there. Dave doesn't have a wife or kids or anybody to shame except himself and he likes to be the center of attention. ".

[EMAIL]alinhardt@keysnews.com[/EMAIL]

Wish the best for you but like many before us, I married one 8 years ago. Now she has her residency and at least several bfs. I would have left her long ago but for our 6 year old. *****s will NEVER change their mentality. Don't fool yourself. When the cash dries up, so does she.

[QUOTE=Ricker;1769692]Guys, not too long ago I met a fantastic girl in Brazil.

The more time we spend together, the better we get along, the more I respect and admire her and the more I genuinely care and love her.

The chemestry between us is crazy good!

I mongered for a long time, and had lots of fun, however, the time was right for me to find someone "special".

Being together and traveling together and knowing that someone really 'digs' me is great and totally satisfies me.

The 'mongering game' is obviously fun and enjoyable, and I wish all you guys the best of the best in your travels.

I still get on the ISG, mainly to get some chuckles, check up on old mates, give a little advice at times, and make some occassional sarcastic remarks.

Thats all great! However.

The funny thing is and the main reason I'm sharing this is to say it's just crazy how there is a member of this ISG that messages my girlfriend to tell her I'm still posting on the ISG (she already knew about the site itself), that I'm posting about hook-ups (which I'm not), and that I'm generally a lying scumbag and that she should be with him, even though he's never even met her in person. Crazy guy for real!

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so pathetic really.

I've told my girlfriend everything about my past, and I know of hers.

We've put it in the past.

I'm happy now, only with her.

We talk about this guy too, that writes her, and it just baffles me how pathetic this dude is.

Dude, I know you'll read this post.

I know who you are, I'm a nice guy, but not stupid, and neither is she.

Just move on with your life.

Between Brazil and Colombia, you have literally millions of other girls to choose from!

I feel sad for you, for your actions, however, I wish you luck in moving on.[/QUOTE]

If you paint a target on yourself you might get hit. CR is probably much less corrupt than DR. He might stand a better chance. Either way he is screwed. If he gets lucky and gets bail and his passport back later he might want to run. Fast. I had a problem in DR and hit the airport quick on bail after recovering my passport.

In my case the chick making problems was a niece of an alcade.

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1772771]Contribute to the Cuba Dave Legal Defense Fund.
For some reason it doesn't open.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JohnGault;1771954]He surely made some mistakes, but he was very helpful with the intel he provided. The sad part is he is now in a terrible place for being helpful to the Mongering community.

I wish him well.[/QUOTE]He obviously pissed somebody off with connections. Pimping is illegal in CR. A facebook page offering to hook Gringos up with Ticas so publicly is never a good idea. Roberto, in Bar Idem has run that place for years (he's sick now and has been replaced) for the sole purpose of hooking guys up with many different types of girls and never had a problem. So putting 2 and 2 together shouldn't be too difficult. Lesson one, don't try to make money off your hobby and two, keep your info to this form and preferably via PM's, IMHO.

According to the story provided by LocoGringo, Cuba Dave has been denied bail. A judge has deemed him to be a flight risk. So he's stuck in a Costa Rican jail for now until his case comes up for trial. I'm curious how far the govt. Is going to take this case and what they will do with him. The story said they could keep him in jail for up to 4 years. Ouch.

And in the unlikely event they grant him bail, they sure as hell aren't going to give him his passport.

Travel Announcements (No questions or comments please). Using this thread could be dangerous.

Of course it is a longshot that they will bother a regular Monger, but my point is why put a target on yourself by giving them your travel plans. It really does not matter if your handle does not give your real first name. For example in say a flight to MGA which has few Gringos on it. They could look very cloesly at non Nico's on that flight. If they look at the boards, and see a poster giving all kinds of info then see he is coming to town then you are gift wrapping yourself.

I play percentages, and even if it is a 1,000 to one of getting stopped by these political correct Clowns I opt to not give them any edge on me.

If you want people to know you are in Country then do a trip report, and ask if anyone wants to meet for a drink. At least they can't locate you that way.

[QUOTE=ColombiaLover;1769774]You can get it in the gift shop at the Mansion.[/QUOTE]Thanks again C. L. For the heads up on this. Found that generic see is now sold in all the pharmacies in Medellin. The pharmacists told me that Eli Lilly's patents expired a couple months ago and tadalafil can now be legally sold. Of 8 pharmacies in el centro and Pablado the best price I found was across the street from Parque Pablado just south of the church. They offer 2 for 1 promotions on some packages and told me the promotions have no expiration date. With promo you can buy 2 pills of 20 MG for 18 mil or 56 pills of 5 MG for 130 mil.

[QUOTE=VegasCrazyGuy;1779933] the best price I found was across the street from Parque Pablado just south of the church. They offer 2 for 1 promotions on some packages and told me the promotions have no expiration date. With promo you can buy 2 pills of 20 MG for 18 mil or 56 pills of 5 MG for 130 mil.[/QUOTE]That's a great price for tadalafil. Basically 3 dollars for a 20 MG pill, for me that's superior to any generic Viagra option. Also the 5 MG pills sound convenient, because I chop up the 20 MG pills and they sometimes crumble. I have not seen those little guys anywhere yet.

[QUOTE=Buscar;1779967]That's a great price for tadalafil. Basically 3 dollars for a 20 MG pill, for me that's superior to any generic Viagra option. Also the 5 MG pills sound convenient, because I chop up the 20 MG pills and they sometimes crumble. I have not seen those little guys anywhere yet.[/QUOTE]Topdrugmart have 60 (MG tadalafil, just a little more expensive than the 5-10-20 MG pills.

Powerful stuff! I have a very long payed vacation since our operation is stalled, so during a "pornday" I tried out a mix of 150 MG sildenafil, 60 MG tadalafil and a pill that has 2 active ingredients; vardenafil (Levitra) and SSRI that is in and out of the blood within 24 hs!

2014 I ordered to Medellin 2 times and must have saved several 100 reds of $US since I used them often during a 5 months period.

It take it's time to get the parcel, the site is serious and I besides delays, the service and products are of very good quality.

The name is "Snovitra Super Power", it has 60 MG SSRI, dapoxetine and 20 MG vardenafil.

It works like a charm!

I had a solid warm-steel-wood when ever I wanted during at least 10 hours and a lot of erotic dreams after that.

I'm in my 45 yo period and it's kind of climacteria for us!

Somedays it's needed, other days no pills what so ever is needed!

But I want garanteed success; a Colombian girlfriend only knows about Viagra and doesn't care much, she is more concerned that you don't satisfy her.

A prepago is a waste of money if you are not ready to have a full wood for the hour you are paying 150 k pesos for.

The 2 component pill; it drives away anxiety and holds off early comings, something that prepagos are experts in provoking.

Paulo Cuelho says in a writing that a prepago in reality only work 11 minutes of the hour you pay for; a unpropotional big part of the hour is spend AFTER you have had orgasm.

These pills garantee that YOU, not the prepago get's the most value; I. E. She has to work for one hour instead of Paulos estimated 11 minutes!

[URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleven_Minutes[/URL]

I checked the website you recommended: [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL].

They have good prices.

You said they shipped to Colombia and no problems with customs! How about USA shipping? No problemas?

Sounds like a magical pill this "Snovitra".

Have you checked to see if colombian pharmacies have this pill??

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1786840]Topdrugmart have 60 (MG tadalafil, just a little more expensive than the 5-10-20 MG pills.

Powerful stuff! I have a very long payed vacation since our operation is stalled, so during a "pornday" I tried out a mix of 150 MG sildenafil, 60 MG tadalafil and a pill that has 2 active ingredients; vardenafil (Levitra) and SSRI that is in and out of the blood within 24 hs!

2014 I ordered to Medellin 2 times and must have saved several 100 reds of $US since I used them often during a 5 months period.

It take it's time to get the parcel, the site is serious and I besides delays, the service and products are of very good quality.

The name is "Snovitra Super Power", it has 60 MG SSRI, dapoxetine and 20 MG vardenafil.

It works like a charm!

[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BrasilSoccer0;1786853]I checked the website you recommended: [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL].

They have good prices.

You said they shipped to Colombia and no problems with customs! How about USA shipping? No problemas?

Sounds like a magical pill this "Snovitra".

Have you checked to see if colombian pharmacies have this pill??[/QUOTE]TDM24 use this method; you pay via your internetbank. Then after 2-3 , often more days, they have the money and send the order to the manufacturing company in india to send the parcel. First it goes to UK, London. There it is re-packaged and get a new EU-EU parcel, which customs not are aloud to touch, formally, they can, but in 9 out of 10 cases I get my pills!

They have separate instructions for the US, I think.

Getting the parcels to Medellin was no problem. But you have to remind them! I always get my products, they are serious. But sometimes it seems that an order can be forgotten in their internal system.

Since some months ago I have started to remind, remind, and it has speeded up the process.

An idea would be to, as I did, order it 2 months before you go to medellin, to an adress of a friend. No problem!

I don't know, but when I was sending something with Fedex from Colombia to Denmark, via the US, it was a lot of extra security rules and extra costs and it seems very complicated.

Who sends "drugs" in private parcels TO Colombia? We are a rare kind of importers, I guess!

The control into Colombia, for parcels at least can'be that complicated.

Sending money though, bank-to my x-novia`s bank was complicated; it was only like $200-300 , but still she had to answer a lot of control questions etc.


It was back 2013-14 I asked in the farmacias; they have sildenafil citrate almost for free, and the best was "masticable", chewable, they work quickly, very quickly!

But tadalafil and varenafil is still under monopol, which makes them super expensive, but soon it should be 10 years and then the patent.

Thats the latest info. I have , but things change rapidly in these days of rapid and enourmous international trade.

Anyone have more accurat info. on this issue?

SSRIs and Phosphodiesterase inhibitors (Viagra / cialis / Levita) combinations do work great. Depoxitine 30 MG (first SSRI dedicated for treatment of premature ejaculation) works really well but it is not as easily available. Paxil (Paroxitine) 10 MG works well also, in combination with ED meds. Paroxitine is readily available in CO for pennies. Reportedly, Lexapro aslo works well. Good luck and have fun.

I am not a doctor. All of this is summarized from the great world wide web.

BTW, I just called "Pasteur" pharmacy and they quoted me 78 k cop fo 4 tablets of 60 MG Depoxitine!! Too much and they don't have generic.

Have you used paroxitine and got good results? Cause it stays longer in your system and could lead to sexual disfunction,. Depoxitine is fast acting and flushes out of your system within 24 hrs that sounds safer to me.

[QUOTE=Vitrea;1786962]SSRIs and Phosphodiesterase inhibitors (Viagra / cialis / Levita) combinations do work great. Depoxitine 30 MG (first SSRI dedicated for treatment of premature ejaculation) works really well but it is not as easily available. Paxil (Paroxitine) 10 MG works well also, in combination with ED meds. Paroxitine is readily available in CO for pennies. Reportedly, Lexapro aslo works well. Good luck and have fun.

I am not a doctor. All of this is summarized from the great world wide web.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1786840]
The name is Snovitra Super Power, it has 60 MG SSRI, dapoxetine and 20 MG vardenafil.
[/QUOTE]Can I buy that in Medellin?

[QUOTE=Menteng;1787029]Can I buy that in Medellin?[/QUOTE]You buy via a webshop; [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL].

You pay bank internationalpayment.

Then they give you the trackingnumber. It is produced in india. If you are in Europe it goes via UK, London, after that customs don't control parcels from one EU country to another. They might do, if they suspect drugs, but in 9 out of 10 parcels I recieve it. If it I narcotics, like benzo, xanax, Valium, Tramadol, whe customs destroy it. If it is anabolic steroids or ED medecine like this one, they are obliged to return it to the sender.

The process from ordering at [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL]. Until you get it, it take a month, it can be much less or 2 months, so have it send to a friends adress way before you go, and build up a base of some 100-200 pills if you are a recurring traveller to medellin.

2014 in medellin still only sildenafil citrate was available, some brands very good and very cheap.

But as our friend wrote; 78 mil pesos for 4 pills! It's the same for Cialis and levitra, superexpensive!

I have used [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL] since 2011 and their products have been very good. At prices that are in general acceptable.

I suspect US customs are control feeaks, but I don't know, maybe our gringo friend here can inform us.

Another option is to order from Panama; a friends friend could send ED etc. Whatever I needed from Panama to medellin.

It was just before going home so I never tried that service, but it might be a solution. Prices that the panama guy wanted was about the twice of the from that [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL] for Cialis, Levitra.

Accidentally stumbled on a prepagos review board which seems to cover chicas from mileroticas:

[URL]http://www.foroprepagoscolombia.com/[/URL]

At Jackson: hope this is ok here?

I had a problem in Pereira.

My problem was that I did not make a reservation.

In the old days, when you booked online you paid more.

Not today.

The two problems for me was that I did not bring my passport, just the passport card, which they would not accept at Soratama Hotel.

So I stayed at the Ghl Hotel Abadia Plaza, which accepted the passport card.

But because I did not make reservation I paid US $86, instead of US $44 on [URL]bookings.com[/URL].

Although I did use [URL]bookings.com[/URL] for the second day.

[QUOTE=Dccpa;1769703]Ricker you would be doing everyone a service if you outed the guy. If the person isn't trustworthy, members need to know. Buena suerte.[/QUOTE]I second this. That's a be! T $h move! I don't even know who's involved but read some Ricker posts before, can hardly believe somebody would do that to him or any member, new or retired. But that's why sadly some of us here are forever single--got some serious mental / personality flaws like dude who tries to out a former member and then take his girl.

I'd normally try to insert a joke here, but damn, that is messed up.

I recently spent 10 days in Cali at the Cali Plaza Hotel. I made my reservation with [URL]Hotels.com[/URL]. Their initial discounted rate was $28 a night. But their policy of paying the difference in price if it goes down bet. The time of making the reservation and you go to the hotel gave me a rebate. The rebate of $6 a night knocked the price of the room down to $22 a night. The normal rate at the hotel is around $40 a night, so I saved quite a bit on the price of the room per night.

It pays to use these internet travel companies like: Trivago, [URL]bookings.com[/URL], Expedia, Travelocity etc. It can knock the price of the room down a lot.

[QUOTE=BayBoy;1792312]I recently spent 10 days in Cali at the Cali Plaza Hotel. I made my reservation with [URL]Hotels.com[/URL]. Their initial discounted rate was $28 a night. But their policy of paying the difference in price if it goes down bet. The time of making the reservation and you go to the hotel gave me a rebate. The rebate of $6 a night knocked the price of the room down to $22 a night. The normal rate at the hotel is around $40 a night, so I saved quite a bit on the price of the room per night.

It pays to use these internet travel companies like: Trivago, [URL]bookings.com[/URL], Expedia, Travelocity etc. It can knock the price of the room down a lot.[/QUOTE]No kidding?! I looked up the Santa Marta rates and posted a question and report said to NOT use any US site as there is a mean mark up. Cool. TY for the report.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1787076]You buy via a webshop; [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL].

You pay bank internationalpayment.

Then they give you the trackingnumber. It is produced in india. If you are in Europe it goes via UK, London, after that customs don't control parcels from one EU country to another. They might do, if they suspect drugs, but in 9 out of 10 parcels I recieve it. If it I narcotics, like benzo, xanax, Valium, Tramadol, whe customs destroy it. If it is anabolic steroids or ED medecine like this one, they are obliged to return it to the sender.

The process from ordering at [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL]. Until you get it, it take a month, it can be much less or 2 months, so have it send to a friends adress way before you go, and build up a base of some 100-200 pills if you are a recurring traveller to medellin.

2014 in medellin still only sildenafil citrate was available, some brands very good and very cheap.

But as our friend wrote; 78 mil pesos for 4 pills! It's the same for Cialis and levitra, superexpensive!

I have used [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL] since 2011 and their products have been very good. At prices that are in general acceptable.

I suspect US customs are control feeaks, but I don't know, maybe our gringo friend here can inform us.

Another option is to order from Panama; a friends friend could send ED etc. Whatever I needed from Panama to medellin.

It was just before going home so I never tried that service, but it might be a solution. Prices that the panama guy wanted was about the twice of the from that [URL]topdrugmart24.com[/URL] for Cialis, Levitra.[/QUOTE]Thank you!

Hello everyone,

Will be back down CO finally after a year long hiatus next week and in my free time and for hopefully less money looking to get some regular Dr. Consults and prescriptions filled. The Rxs do require Doctors notes and some CO triplicate control drug forms however they are legal with the proper paperwork. So my question is other than the expensive Clinicas and Hospitals are there walk in clinics or smaller less expensive Independent above the board Doc. Offices for this type of service?

This IS NOT about me being in CO and trying to get crazy high all day with black market hard drugs but is about trying to treat some pre-exisiting musco-skeletal and insomnia conditions that I either do not have the time to jump through all the hoops in the US and pay all the inflated US Dr. Visit fees (now even with insurance). Plus these treatments I only take at night when safe in bed so can rest and recover for nice long hard days of mongering.

A little about my monger life. Hooked on it since was 23 in the Navy (now 49) and have experienced it around the world. Been to CO and CR combined 60 times +/- the last 10 years.

Cheers,

Cocr (adding MX soon).

[QUOTE=Ricker;1769692]Guys, not too long ago I met a fantastic girl in Brazil.

The more time we spend together, the better we get along, the more I respect and admire her and the more I genuinely care and love her.

The chemestry between us is crazy good!

I mongered for a long time, and had lots of fun, however, the time was right for me to find someone "special".

Being together and traveling together and knowing that someone really 'digs' me is great and totally satisfies me.

The 'mongering game' is obviously fun and enjoyable, and I wish all you guys the best of the best in your travels.

I still get on the ISG, mainly to get some chuckles, check up on old mates, give a little advice at times, and make some occassional sarcastic remarks.

Thats all great! However.

The funny thing is and the main reason I'm sharing this is to say it's just crazy how there is a member of this ISG that messages my girlfriend to tell her I'm still posting on the ISG (she already knew about the site itself), that I'm posting about hook-ups (which I'm not), and that I'm generally a lying scumbag and that she should be with him, even though he's never even met her in person. Crazy guy for real!

It'd be funny, if it wasn't so pathetic really.

I've told my girlfriend everything about my past, and I know of hers.

We've put it in the past.

I'm happy now, only with her.

We talk about this guy too, that writes her, and it just baffles me how pathetic this dude is.

Dude, I know you'll read this post.

I know who you are, I'm a nice guy, but not stupid, and neither is she.

Just move on with your life.

Between Brazil and Colombia, you have literally millions of other girls to choose from!

I feel sad for you, for your actions, however, I wish you luck in moving on.[/QUOTE]I'm Happy for you buddy, this couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. From back in the day, I remember you as one of the few guys that got all sides of the game, how to get the girls to fall hard for you, to genuinely like being around you and not just your wallet, and then reap the big rewards. We had something in common, and its a part that many guys never get. I hope that this works out and you find happiness forever. As for the guy who gave up your handle to a girl here on ISG, why don't you go ahead and out him so others can be cautious?

The one thing almost every Latina has in common is they will do anything for their kids. So, I try to take 2 trips after Thanksgiving, the first week or two of December for a week or so and January 2nd or 3rd for a week. The point being, a lot of women with kids suffer thru most of the year because of absent fathers and a lack of support. Come Christmas they are desperate for money for Christmas. Most spend Christmas Eve with family thru and until new years day. The week between Christmas and New years is historically the worst time for our hobby. After new years is good again because most are broke and most likely spent the rent money. I have meet a lot of non pros and 'chippers' in December that probably you will never see during other times of the year. I've even had success with waitress and clerks around Christmas. The best part about it is, ok so maybe I'm a sucker, but I usually give them more money then usual and I feel good that maybe I made a nice Christmas for some poor kid.

[QUOTE=TimeToPlay;1797226]I'm Happy for you buddy, this couldn't have happened to a nicer guy. From back in the day, I remember you as one of the few guys that got all sides of the game, how to get the girls to fall hard for you, to genuinely like being around you and not just your wallet, and then reap the big rewards. We had something in common, and its a part that many guys never get. I hope that this works out and you find happiness forever. As for the guy who gave up your handle to a girl here on ISG, why don't you go ahead and out him so others can be cautious?[/QUOTE]Thanks amigo!!

Hope to catch you around!!

P.S., I don't know the guys handle on ISG that gave me up, just real name, and I just don't want to get into all that.

I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.

I just got back from Cali, Colombia. The airfare was $536 round trip, SFO to Panama to Cali. The are very few tourists in Cali.

Everything is most likely cheaper in Colombia, except in Cartagena.

The last time I was in the D. R. a long time ago, it was good with not many guys, but now there are too many guys.

So, the prices are higher.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1801024]I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Colombian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.[/QUOTE]

In Colombia you have different cities with different setups. If you go to Bogota you have Santa Fe, which is widely considered to be a dangerous part of town but if you use some common sense and don't act like you are confused and don't know where you're walking, then you will be fine. Lots of motel girls standing outside, some who are cute and most who are not. But the quality girls in terms of looks are in the clubs such as Atunes (daytime), El Castillo, Troya, Paisas, La Piscina, etc. You also have MP's and casas scattered throughout the city, and clubs outside of Santa Fe such as Pussy House. I have never had a problem finding a girl that I like, and to me they are better looking than DR chicas. Santa Fe gives you a good pump and dump experience, although if you go for an hour and get the girls number you can have GFE. YMMV.

If you go to Medellin, there are casas that are OK during the daytime. The area at night time is considered to be dangerous, but read about experiences in order to determine what you would need to do in order to minimize your risk. There are also clubs such as Fase Dos that have lots of hot girls. With any place whether it's a MP, casa or club, you can ask for the girls number and try to see her outside of work which tends to save a little bit of money. The other big thing with Medellin is FB chicas. There are a couple places such as the Mansion that cater towards people who want good looking girls, and they are right there. It's the easy thing to do, and some of the Mansion girls are very good looking. You have to be a guest to really see what is on-site though. But there are popular FB girls you can build up connections with, and eventually get in touch with other chicas. I usually go with the FB chicas, they generally give good GFE and you can have a TLN for 300 k to 400 k which comes out to just under $100 to $130. An hour will be about half that. I've been to Sosua plenty of times, and also Santiago and Santo Domingo. All have different setups as well, Sosua is point and click and it's hard to say there's any place like that in Medellin. In Sosua you can walk around a couple blocks, and get all that you need. Bogota and Medellin, it's different. They're very big cities, places are scattered around town, some in sketchy parts, so it takes a little bit more of an effort to get around but that should be expected of any large city. Colombian chicas won't approach you, and that's different from Sosua where you just need to sit down at Rumbas, and if you don't have girls coming to you all you need to do is look at one and she'll come over. In Colombia, don't expect too much of that. If you like a girl and there's no one talking to her, go up to her and introduce yourself, and try to talk in Spanish. So overall I would say that Colombia requires a little bit more of an effort, if you don't do any research and just show up you're not going to have a good time. You need to plan it out a bit if you can. The effort in the end, has been worth it to me. Flights are usually around the same as going to DR. If you need a beach there is Cartagena which I have done, but it's not a nice beach, and the hottest girls cost considerably more than Bogota / Medellin.

[QUOTE=OldKool;1801024]I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OldKool;1801024]I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.[/QUOTE]Colombian women? Is that a joke? Colombian women superior to DR women? Is that another joke? If you going to South Carolina, you should quit mongering.

Now seriously, if you are referring to DR vs. Colombia. There are pros and cons and that superiority thing does not apply because it all is a matter of taste, preference and the location where the women are.

Lets start with the DR. You will find darker women in the coast towns of Puerto Plata, Sosua, the Capital Santo Domingo and Boca Chica, Samana, Punta Cana. Sosua and Boca Chica are the best mongering destinations in the DR. You can find more variety and more lighter skin types in towns like Santiago, but also less P4 P there. The beaches in Sosua and Boca Chica are nice warm and clear blue water. The women in DR are beautiful. If you like natural women with no silicone surgery, the dark types, canella, dark chocolate Haitians, curly hair, waivy hair, straightened hair, and the minority white skin type, and lots of women with big booties and breast. DR women have bigger booties than Colombianas, I think. The DR girls are sweet and you could get lots of GFE experiences. But those GFE also can turn into big scammers and will try to get you as their western union novio. They will ask you for money all the time, for the baby's pampers, the children school, the sick mom, the sick father, the brother in jail, to buy them a moto, to buy them a computer, to pay for the school of their children, to pay the rent, to buy them a house, a car, to buy them clothes, to pay for the breast implant and butt surgery, and the list goes on and on. And they will be very sweet to you when the ask. E. G. In the first meeting after sex, "[i]Ay papi dame esos condones tu no lo necesitas y tu tienes muchos. Ay papito mi amor mi vida mi cielo dame ese iphone, tu tienes dos why el mio no sirbe.[/i]" DR girls are pure hustlers. They beat Colombianas in the hustler department. For a newbie, Sosua and Boca Chica is good to start. The weather in the DR is hot and humid in most places except for Constansa.

As for Colombians, it also depend on the location. If you like white women with black hair, cilicone enhanced women then Medellin is the place. There are tons on natural women and most are beautiful and sweet. Colombian women are definitely less needy than DR women but I found less GFE experience (but that is only personal experience), they are still sweet. The best mongering destinations in Colombia are Medellin, Bogota, and Cali. At the coast like in Cartagena, Barranquilla, and Santa Marta, they have darker complexions and less silicone. It is also more expensive in those areas but not necessarily better looking women. More scammers in Cartagena and very expensive. For a newbie, Medellin is a good place to start and is cheaper than Sosua and Boca Chica. In Puta prices, Medellin beats the DR and most other places in Colombia. The other places in Colombia like Carta, Barranquilla, Santa Marta are comparable to DR prices. I don't know if Bogota is cheaper than Medellin because I have not spent time in Bogota. The beaches are dumps in Colombia when you compared them to DR beaches. DR wins in the better beaches department. As for the food, I prefer Dominican food, but food are very similar. I think DR wins in the food area. The weather is hot and humid in some areas like Carta, Barra, Santa Marta, and is spring like in places like Medellin, Bucaramanga, and cold in Bogota. Colombia wins with the weather because of more variety.

I just got back from a trip to Cali and Medellin. Had a great time. For newbies rtff, and pm senior members for some great information. I'am a senior member but still reach out. Thanks wtg for keeping the list current and up to date. I got useful information from bayboy and dcfan post and a big thanks to vitrea for his contact info. Medellin wasn't bad weather wise, but Cali was so hot. Tip, if visiting Cali, instead of taking regular t shirts, take the quick drying t shirts like the ones they sell at under armour. You will thank me later.

The only negative thing that happened to me was that I lost my iphone. In it were pictures, prices and notes of my trip. Most of my post will be on memory, which wasn't good to start with. So forgive me if some of my post don't include names or prices. At almost all the casas, none of the girls would allow me to take pictures. The girls that did let me take pictures said not to post them. I guess it doesn't matter now.

I did alot of walking in both cities and never felt in danger. I was told not to call a cab from the street but that's all I did. Knock on wood, nothing bad happened. Actually most of the taxi drivers were honest and friendly. Lastly, like posters before me, most of the BJ's were covered. Of all the girls I saw, only three girls gave BBBJ.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1798215]The one thing almost every Latina has in common is they will do anything for their kids. So, I try to take 2 trips after Thanksgiving, the first week or two of December for a week or so and January 2nd or 3rd for a week. The point being, a lot of women with kids suffer thru most of the year because of absent fathers and a lack of support. Come Christmas they are desperate for money for Christmas. Most spend Christmas Eve with family thru and until new years day. The week between Christmas and New years is historically the worst time for our hobby. After new years is good again because most are broke and most likely spent the rent money. I have meet a lot of non pros and 'chippers' in December that probably you will never see during other times of the year. I've even had success with waitress and clerks around Christmas. The best part about it is, ok so maybe I'm a sucker, but I usually give them more money then usual and I feel good that maybe I made a nice Christmas for some poor kid.[/QUOTE]Very well said and I hope guys will search my key works in the title and find your advice! Super on point and 100% true. I'd like to add that there is a very festive mood this time of year with parties and chivas (bus things) going on plus the normal holiday parties. I would extend the "do no fly" zone till the Monday following Jan 1st because in Colombia that is familia time and they will go to the finca.

I came across two videos that was interesting to watch. You may find it useful as well.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkXn-TP98Pg[/URL]

[QUOTE=Sun08;1814574]I came across two videos that was interesting to watch. You may find it useful as well.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkXn-TP98Pg[/URL][/QUOTE]I watched both videos. Good stuff for everyone traveling to any country to watch.

True story. Five years ago, in broad daylight, on a main street in Bogota with my back pack on, a crew of two (one in a wheel chair directing and the other standing behind me trying to open my back pack while I am waiting for the walk light) tried to rob me, I grabbed the pathetic guys hand and forced him against the building and with about 40 people watching told him never try this on another person again. Now get this. The ringleader, in a wheelchair rolls up and he gives me shit and I loudly explain to this piece of shit that if he tries this again he will have nothing left as I would break both of his hands too.

The 40 people crowd were laughing and applauding. Good Colombians love to be vigilantes to street scum.

The Tall Man.

[QUOTE=Sun08;1814574]I came across two videos that was interesting to watch. You may find it useful as well.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkXn-TP98Pg[/URL][/QUOTE]Interesting info about the tricks used in the emerald biz. Had no idea, I'll bet even the large "legit" companies use those processes. Don't know anything about stones so I never even considered buying, I figured I'd get scammed and pay at least twice the real value or worse.

Unless you know what you're doing, buying stones in a foreign country is an invitation to get fleeced, might as well pay the premium and buy from a legit dealer in the states or in Europe.

As for the other scams, that's old news. My advice is be very alert in the crowded commercial areas of Bogota where there's lots of people on the streets shopping or going from store to store. Don't stop for anyone no matter what they try to distract you with and if someone brushes by you, move away quickly.

The scope scams aren't hard to avoid; Colombian women are conservative, they never make the first move, even the putas in Colombia are like this. Any chica that's flirting with you or approaches you cold is either a puta desperate to make some easy money, or possibly a member of one of those scope gangs the TV crew exposed.

Gringos who go down there and are not familiar with the Colombians and their habits and behaviors get easily confused by this, they compare with some of the women back home who behave in a similar flirty fashion, and so think that's normal down there.

Or they conflate the friendliness of Colombians in public daytime settings with night venues that have a more sexual atmosphere. Which as I've just explained is not the case at all.

Always make the first move, and ignore the more aggressive and assertive chicas, and you should be fine.

As for the drinks, I try to stick with beer bottles, or bottles of rum, LOL, it's harder to pour poison down a narrow bottleneck.

Once I order a drink in Bogota, it never leaves my hand until I finish it. I even take it with me to the bathroom, LOL, I don't care about any strange looks I get.

If I get distracted by someone who wants to chat with me, I'll instinctively bring the bottle to my chest, and cover the opening with my thumb.

[QUOTE=Sun08;1814574]I came across two videos that was interesting to watch. You may find it useful as well.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw7fMPIks4E[/URL]

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkXn-TP98Pg[/URL][/QUOTE]It's difficult to believe the guy who made the second video has traveled for any length of time. He made so many mistakes, I don't know if he did anything correctly. Even though he had a hotel room, he had all his valuables in that backpack. Then he says he doesn't know how they opened the zipper on his backpack. Take any pointed object, like a ballpoint pen, and stick in the zipper. It separates!

Here's just a few pointers for the inexperienced traveler. Once you are in your hotel, leave your valuables there except what you will need for the immediate trip away from the hotel. Carry a copy of your passport, leave the real thing in the hotel. While you are traveling, and not checked into a hotel, do not put all your valuables together. Put money and credit cards in various parts of whatever type of luggage you are carrying. Do not use a backpack to carry valuables; have them in something that you can see at all times. That's just a few of the major precautions, I'm sure others have more.

Anyone ever get a part time girlfriend pregnant in Colombia? I got one girl pregnant in DR and daughter is now 7. Never had problem with mother. Once I had test run to make sure baby was mine, I send money monthly which is minimal and visit a few times per year.

But now if true I got this girl pregnant in Colombia. So I am heading there next month to get things checked out. It wasn't an accident I just am wandering if they have more stringent laws. Hopefully I can just work it out with girl, once baby is confirmed mine. I don't have problem with money I just want to keep it a fair amount.

Anyone that's been in this situation any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1831450]Anyone ever get a part time girlfriend pregnant in Colombia? I got one girl pregnant in DR and daughter is now 7. Never had problem with mother. Once I had test run to make sure baby was mine, I send money monthly which is minimal and visit a few times per year.

But now if true I got this girl pregnant in Colombia. So I am heading there next month to get things checked out. It wasn't an accident I just am wandering if they have more stringent laws. Hopefully I can just work it out with girl, once baby is confirmed mine. I don't have problem with money I just want to keep it a fair amount.

Anyone that's been in this situation any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I think Colombia and most South American countries laws are not the same as in USA where you need to pay a lot of money for child support like a big portion of your monthly salary.

But the best thing you should do is stop banging those girls bareback.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1831450]Anyone ever get a part time girlfriend pregnant in Colombia? I got one girl pregnant in DR and daughter is now 7. Never had problem with mother. Once I had test run to make sure baby was mine, I send money monthly which is minimal and visit a few times per year.

But now if true I got this girl pregnant in Colombia. So I am heading there next month to get things checked out. It wasn't an accident I just am wandering if they have more stringent laws. Hopefully I can just work it out with girl, once baby is confirmed mine. I don't have problem with money I just want to keep it a fair amount.

Anyone that's been in this situation any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]No worries as there are hundreds of thousand of single mothers in Colombia raising there own kid from a dead-beat Colombian man. The laws are such that the men don't have to give a shit about impregnating a girl with absolutely no responsibility or consequences. NONE! Raising kids with help from the biological father is almost non-existant.

Stepping up and doing the right this is respectable in our culture but not in Colombia or anywhere else in Latin America for that matter.

The Tall Man.

Thanks for your in put! I am very aware of dead beat dads in Colombia. I am on good terms with Chicago. I just hope it stays that way.

Thanks again.

[QUOTE=Cursnoop;1831479]I think Colombia and most South American countries laws are not the same as in USA where you need to pay a lot of money for child support like a big portion of your monthly salary.

But the best thing you should do is stop banging those girls bareback.[/QUOTE]

Thanks but this wasn't just some one night stand. I'm not saying the girls an angel but I have known her over 3 years. Like I had mentioned it wasn't an accident but I really didn't think I still had it in me. I guess the stars aligned.

Yes I agree don't bareback just anyone.

Thanks for your input!!

[QUOTE=Cursnoop;1831479]I think Colombia and most South American countries laws are not the same as in USA where you need to pay a lot of money for child support like a big portion of your monthly salary.

But the best thing you should do is stop banging those girls bareback.[/QUOTE]

Use one of these. I live in medellin and always have them in my place. Also, don't be shy to ask the ladies what kind of contraceptive they use? "Con que planificas amor?

[QUOTE=YouCan;1831643]Thanks but this wasn't just some one night stand. I'm not saying the girls an angel but I have known her over 3 years. Like I had mentioned it wasn't an accident but I really didn't think I still had it in me. I guess the stars aligned.

Yes I agree don't bareback just anyone.

Thanks for your input!![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=QuackUp;1802560]I just got back from a trip to Cali and Medellin. Had a great time. For newbies rtff, and pm senior members for some great information. I'am a senior member but still reach out. Thanks wtg for keeping the list current and up to date. I got useful information from bayboy and dcfan post and a big thanks to vitrea for his contact info. Medellin wasn't bad weather wise, but Cali was so hot. Tip, if visiting Cali, instead of taking regular t shirts, take the quick drying t shirts like the ones they sell at under armour. You will thank me later.

The only negative thing that happened to me was that I lost my iphone. In it were pictures, prices and notes of my trip. Most of my post will be on memory, which wasn't good to start with. So forgive me if some of my post don't include names or prices. At almost all the casas, none of the girls would allow me to take pictures. The girls that did let me take pictures said not to post them. I guess it doesn't matter now.

I did alot of walking in both cities and never felt in danger. I was told not to call a cab from the street but that's all I did. Knock on wood, nothing bad happened. Actually most of the taxi drivers were honest and friendly. Lastly, like posters before me, most of the BJ's were covered. Of all the girls I saw, only three girls gave BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Planning my first trip to Medellin. Where can I get info without bothering you guys that have been around awhile.

[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2418-Medellin-Lists[/URL]

[QUOTE=MsgJam;1832217]Planning my first trip to Medellin. Where can I get info without bothering you guys that have been around awhile.[/QUOTE]

Hello fellow mongers,

Can you guys recommend some dating sites that have a lot of girls who are open to P4P.

I am not not looking for a wife or full time girlfriend, just looking to do some home work before my trip in July.

I am honest and upfront with the girls on my intentions. I am not trying to mislead them into thinking more than just a good time for money.

I am planning to go to Cartagena if that makes a difference of more activity on certain sites.

[URL]https://www.vice.com/read/cocaine-making-classes-in-colombia-303[/URL]

[URL]http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/i-went-on-a-make-your-own-cocaine-tour-in-colombia[/URL]

From what I understand, a small possession of cocaine for personal use in Colombia is legal. Please correct me if I am wrong.

My last trip I didn't have any problem finding coke to try, and was even given some as a gift by local Colombians when I expressed interest in trying their local product. I told them I bought some in Parque Lleras in Medellin and they laughed in my face telling me if was sub par to what they had. I am not talking about drug dealers, I am talking about what I seemed to be normal middle to upper class Colombian who spoke good English and ate or drank in the bars / restaurants around Parque Lleras. For them they said it was something they did on weekend as a pick me up or a little something extra to add to their party.

I am not a drug addict and I don't even do drugs when I am at home living a normal life or working a proper job, but when I travel I like to live life to the fullest and do what locals do.

Since I plan to make another trip to Colombia this summer, I am curious to go on one of these cocaine making tours, as an an experience and also try to try to product at it's more uncut form. So if anyone has info on how to join one of these tours, I very much appreciate it.

Please don't view this as a post to encourage anything illegal or expose an evil truth about Colombia.

Hola Dudes,

I'm a few days out from my first trip to Medellin, and had a question for the board. I'm currently booked at a Hotel in the heart of Poblado. Let's say I'm getting towards the end of my trip, and want to get out of the gringo area. What barrio would you recommend I checkout that still has a local area of cafes, restaurants, bars, and relatively safe, but less "Touristy" than Poblado?

Many Thanks,

Judd.

In the area of Carrera 70 and close to the Estadio Metro station.

[QUOTE=Judd;1835727]Hola Dudes,

I'm a few days out from my first trip to Medellin, and had a question for the board. I'm currently booked at a Hotel in the heart of Poblado. Let's say I'm getting towards the end of my trip, and want to get out of the gringo area. What barrio would you recommend I checkout that still has a local area of cafes, restaurants, bars, and relatively safe, but less "Touristy" than Poblado?

Many Thanks,

Judd.[/QUOTE]

Envigado, Sabaneta, Itagui, Bello.

[QUOTE=Judd;1835727]Hola Dudes,

I'm a few days out from my first trip to Medellin, and had a question for the board. I'm currently booked at a Hotel in the heart of Poblado. Let's say I'm getting towards the end of my trip, and want to get out of the gringo area. What barrio would you recommend I checkout that still has a local area of cafes, restaurants, bars, and relatively safe, but less "Touristy" than Poblado?

Many Thanks,

Judd.[/QUOTE]

Hey guys,

I'm going on my first trip to Medellin in a couple of weeks.

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel, so I have a concern about STD's with working girls. I think it's fair to assume that after fucking thousands of guys, these girls have contracted just about every STD on the planet?! The question is, how do we protect ourselves? I've read at length about STD's in general and I've decided to do the following: condoms 100% (sex and oral), not kissing on mouth or DATY, not fingering her. Is there anything else a man can do to protect from STD's?

I'm sure there are a lot of mongers who do the "bare bone" thing, but I'd like to hear from the mongers with similar concerns to mine and if there are any protection tricks you do when visiting Casas?

Thank you very much in advance. I want to put this fear behind so I can focus on the pleasures while I'm with the girls.

Newguy3

Second.

[QUOTE=Lmarcone;1835838]Envigado, Sabaneta, Itagui, Bello.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NewGuy3;1835952]Hey guys,

I'm going on my first trip to Medellin in a couple of weeks.

I've never been with a hooker or at a brothel, so I have a concern about STD's with working girls. I think it's fair to assume that after fucking thousands of guys, these girls have contracted just about every STD on the planet?! The question is, how do we protect ourselves? I've read at length about STD's in general and I've decided to do the following: condoms 100% (sex and oral), not kissing on mouth or DATY, not fingering her. Is there anything else a man can do to protect from STD's?

I'm sure there are a lot of mongers who do the "bare bone" thing, but I'd like to hear from the mongers with similar concerns to mine and if there are any protection tricks you do when visiting Casas?

Thank you very much in advance. I want to put this fear behind so I can focus on the pleasures while I'm with the girls.

Newguy3[/QUOTE]You are correct, working girls have every STD on the planet. This hobby may not be for you. It is better to live your life vicariously through others.

Yes, you should use a condom, but a condom may not protect you from HPV or crabs. I see on this site there is an advertisement for coastguard, That and a condom may give a little more protection, but nothing is 100 percent. Kissing and DATY you can contract herpes. Some guys use saran wrap, but I doubt it because those guys are hardcore into that. I personally don't kiss or DATY with girls, so I don't have a problem with that. It does nothing for me, so if I am paying, it doesn't make sense to me.

Yes it is a dangerous game and the more you do it, the higher your chance of contracting something. Yes you should use protection, unless you like to take risks and feel the numbers are on your side.

If anything using a condom is best used for making sure you don't have an unplanned pregnancy. Because not only will that mess up your life, but the life of others. Even a condom is not 100 percent, so maybe add some spermicide.

Most professional working girls will use a lactic feminine soap, but if you have any doubts bring your own. I always have it in shower and I show it to the girl and tell her to use it. Nothing ruins a session more than a stinky pussy!

Make a little "monger kit" of all your favorite brand, condoms, lube, soap, tooth paste and brush. Most everything you need can fit in cargo pant pockets but I have seen some guys wear a "fanny" pack fag bag.

Thanks Guys!

[QUOTE=MattPsyche;1836039]Second.

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Perfect info! This guy I would recommend go with the fanny pack.

[QUOTE=WebConnect;1836215]You are correct, working girls have every STD on the planet. This hobby may not be for you. It is better to live your life vicariously through others.

Yes, you should use a condom, but a condom may not protect you from HPV or crabs. I see on this site there is an advertisement for coastguard, That and a condom may give a little more protection, but nothing is 100 percent. Kissing and DATY you can contract herpes. Some guys use saran wrap, but I doubt it because those guys are hardcore into that. I personally don't kiss or DATY with girls, so I don't have a problem with that. It does nothing for me, so if I am paying, it doesn't make sense to me.

Yes it is a dangerous game and the more you do it, the higher your chance of contracting something. Yes you should use protection, unless you like to take risks and feel the numbers are on your side.

If anything using a condom is best used for making sure you don't have an unplanned pregnancy. Because not only will that mess up your life, but the life of others. Even a condom is not 100 percent, so maybe add some spermicide.

Most professional working girls will use a lactic feminine soap, but if you have any doubts bring your own. I always have it in shower and I show it to the girl and tell her to use it. Nothing ruins a session more than a stinky pussy!

Make a little "monger kit" of all your favorite brand, condoms, lube, soap, tooth paste and brush. Most everything you need can fit in cargo pant pockets but I have seen some guys wear a "fanny" pack fag bag.[/QUOTE]

You may want to look at it from this angle: Girls don't like STDs any more than you do, and they have to go on the assumption that the men who visit girls have every STD on the planet. That's why all the girls insist on condoms.

I have noticed that recently many girls in Colombia are more intense with hygiene, like spraying the guy's hands and pubic area with surgical alcohol before anything else happens. The most surreal thing I experienced was at one place the girl took a wet-wipe, made a hole in it, and stuck it over my dick so that the pubic areas wouldn't touch.

It's natural for NewGuy3 to be concerned about STDs, and likewise new girls are often more careful than old hands. There are clean girls and dirty girls, and there are clean guys and dirty guys, so be careful, but not paranoid.

I never ask for BBBJ but I've had a few girls do it without asking permission. From that, or from fingers, I once got a mycoplasma infection. Fortunately, most germs you are likely to catch can be diagnosed and then treated with antibiotics. I haven't tried, but I am sure Colombian doctors can do the diagnosis perfectly well, there are plenty of decent clinics, and fees are low (but you should consider travel medical insurance). Antibiotics are all available without prescription at any pharmacy, if you know what you need.

You give a lot of great advice. I always understand being careful. But I am not going to be paranoid.

For me BBBJ is mandatory. Will not even consider a Chica with out it. Only had a few that wouldn't do it so I didn't take them. Talking bar club girls beach girls that you can easily talk to before deciding to take them to apartment.

That's just me. Also I don't care about the best looking girls I would rather have a girl that likes to have a great time and generally wants to hang with me. She could be a 7 or a 10 but I have to feel some connection.

I don't just want the best looking one, I want a good party time. Which I find most of the time.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;1836512]You may want to look at it from this angle: Girls don't like STDs any more than you do, and they have to go on the assumption that the men who visit girls have every STD on the planet. That's why all the girls insist on condoms.

I have noticed that recently many girls in Colombia are more intense with hygiene, like spraying the guy's hands and pubic area with surgical alcohol before anything else happens. The most surreal thing I experienced was at one place the girl took a wet-wipe, made a hole in it, and stuck it over my dick so that the pubic areas wouldn't touch.

It's natural for NewGuy3 to be concerned about STDs, and likewise new girls are often more careful than old hands. There are clean girls and dirty girls, and there are clean guys and dirty guys, so be careful, but not paranoid.

I never ask for BBBJ but I've had a few girls do it without asking permission. From that, or from fingers, I once got a mycoplasma infection. Fortunately, most germs you are likely to catch can be diagnosed and then treated with antibiotics. I haven't tried, but I am sure Colombian doctors can do the diagnosis perfectly well, there are plenty of decent clinics, and fees are low (but you should consider travel medical insurance). Antibiotics are all available without prescription at any pharmacy, if you know what you need.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1831450]Anyone ever get a part time girlfriend pregnant in Colombia? I got one girl pregnant in DR and daughter is now 7. Never had problem with mother. Once I had test run to make sure baby was mine, I send money monthly which is minimal and visit a few times per year.

But now if true I got this girl pregnant in Colombia. So I am heading there next month to get things checked out. It wasn't an accident I just am wandering if they have more stringent laws. Hopefully I can just work it out with girl, once baby is confirmed mine. I don't have problem with money I just want to keep it a fair amount.

Anyone that's been in this situation any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Perhaps it is just my stubborn streak of middle class morality, but I do not want the responsibility for a child being brought up fatherless in some shit hole. Now I have been traveling and banging the locals for almost 30 years now. For all I know there is a blue eyes mini-me somewhere but I hope not. When I reached my mid-forties and was sure I wanted no more kids of my own, went to the doc and had them make it a medical impossibility. As Forest would say, 'one less thing to worry about'.

I personally would prefer to only have children in other countries. But I do not consider them shitholes. I am very happy with most of the countries and people I have met abroad.

Like I said, other then my kids here in US I have one in DR. Hopefully I have one on way in Colombia. I will know very shortly. None of my kids have been accidents and I take care of them all.

But to each his own. I would never get cut.

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;1836754]Perhaps it is just my stubborn streak of middle class morality, but I do not want the responsibility for a child being brought up fatherless in some shit hole. Now I have been traveling and banging the locals for almost 30 years now. For all I know there is a blue eyes mini-me somewhere but I hope not. When I reached my mid-forties and was sure I wanted no more kids of my own, went to the doc and had them make it a medical impossibility. As Forest would say, 'one less thing to worry about'.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1831450]Anyone ever get a part time girlfriend pregnant in Colombia? I got one girl pregnant in DR and daughter is now 7. Never had problem with mother. Once I had test run to make sure baby was mine, I send money monthly which is minimal and visit a few times per year.

But now if true I got this girl pregnant in Colombia. So I am heading there next month to get things checked out. It wasn't an accident I just am wandering if they have more stringent laws. Hopefully I can just work it out with girl, once baby is confirmed mine. I don't have problem with money I just want to keep it a fair amount.

Anyone that's been in this situation any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]I have a six year old daughter in Colombia, I take care of her financially, I pay for her to go to private school and such. Keep in mind that your children are automatically USA Citizens and if they are minors still when you hit 62 years old and go on S. S. You can claim them as dependents, you will receive 62% more per month until they reach at least 18 years old. You can also claim them on your tax return as dependents. You must get them a S. S. Number for this of course. If you need any info let me know. By the time my daughter has reached 18 she will have made me over $125 K,nice.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1836835]I personally would prefer to only have children in other countries. But I do not consider them shitholes. I am very happy with most of the countries and people I have met abroad.

Like I said, other then my kids here in US I have one in DR. Hopefully I have one on way in Colombia. I will know very shortly. None of my kids have been accidents and I take care of them all.

But to each his own. I would never get cut.[/QUOTE]Mr Can,

I sense I have insulted you with my comment and that was not my intention. Yes foreign countries are not shit holes, but I was picturing in my mind the child being brought up by poor single mother who could not adequately provide for them, especially once their prime earning years were over. If one does the right thing and takes respectability for supporting their children and provides both financial and parental support, I have no issue with it. Since I do not intend to do that, getting cut was for me the ethical way to go.

In countries like Colombia, WGs are monitored by health agencies, test regularly for everything, and have to attend classes where they are instructed on how to prevent STIs. If you come here to Colombia, worry much more about some girl you meet in a bar than a WG.

In most of the world WGs have a lower STI prevalency rate than the general population, and Colombia is no exception.

Hi guys,

I'm planning to visit Colombia for 2 weeks in April. I've read up on the scene there somewhat and I found that using Tagged is a good thing.

The thing is, I'm not sure how to approach the girls on it. Should I be forward and offer money straight away or should I try and nurture the relation with them and ask for sex much much later on? I do speak Spanish so that's not a problem.

Also, I've read that there are a number of scammer on Tagged. Would the tactic of eliminating girls with a single photo on their profile be good enough?

[QUOTE=PerfectLover;1839957]Hi guys,

I'm planning to visit Colombia for 2 weeks in April. I've read up on the scene there somewhat and I found that using Tagged is a good thing.

The thing is, I'm not sure how to approach the girls on it. Should I be forward and offer money straight away or should I try and nurture the relation with them and ask for sex much much later on? I do speak Spanish so that's not a problem.

Also, I've read that there are a number of scammer on Tagged. Would the tactic of eliminating girls with a single photo on their profile be good enough?[/QUOTE]Sorry but you are not a perfect lover, and you have no game. I am not being derogatory but being honest. If you do not know how to approach girls on a website, then the girls are going to eat you alive when you meet them in person. I would suggest you select another location other than South America. I know this is not what you want to hear, but I am speaking to you in reality.

[QUOTE=PerfectLover;1839957]Hi guys,

I'm planning to visit Colombia for 2 weeks in April. I've read up on the scene there somewhat and I found that using Tagged is a good thing.

The thing is, I'm not sure how to approach the girls on it. Should I be forward and offer money straight away or should I try and nurture the relation with them and ask for sex much much later on? I do speak Spanish so that's not a problem.[/QUOTE]If it is a hooker that you want then why go through all the trouble and wasting time on a dating site trying to find one? Why not wait until you are there and go to a known hooker spot or search for one on the myriad of hooker websites that exist? That is akin to driving around residential neighborhoods searching for cars that are up for sale when you could just go to a used car lot or ebay or autotrader and find what you are looking for in 3 minutes.

[QUOTE=OldParr;1839978]Sorry but you are not a perfect lover, and you have no game. I am not being derogatory but being honest. If you do not know how to approach girls on a website, then the girls are going to eat you alive when you meet them in person. I would suggest you select another location other than South America. I know this is not what you want to hear, but I am speaking to you in reality.[/QUOTE]PerfectLover is just a nickname, it has nothing to do with my prowess in the bedroom. Regarding having no game, I agree with you. If I had it, I wouldn't be asking for such advice.

Like everyone else here, I'd like to tap a Colombian chica for as little money as possible. I'm not poor or cheap, I just prefer to find a non-pro. However, I don't mind paying for a pro. The thing is, since my time is limited I'd like to set up as many (or any) girls as possible before actually landing. Since I'm new to mongering, I'd hate to offer money to a non-pro and offend her since I believe that the best GFE can be had from a non-pro.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1839998]If it is a hooker that you want then why go through all the trouble and wasting time on a dating site trying to find one? Why not wait until you are there and go to a known hooker spot or search for one on the myriad of hooker websites that exist? That is akin to driving around residential neighborhoods searching for cars that are up for sale when you could just go to a used car lot or ebay or autotrader and find what you are looking for in 3 minutes.[/QUOTE]For the hookers I intend to do just that, it's just that I'd like to set up something before I land so I maximize my time there.

Guys,

Be kind to our friend here. If he had perfect game he'd be fucking the models in his home town and not be on this forum.

Man, by all means come to beautiful Colombia and do your best here. See how far your Spanish gets you with all the non-pros while going to the pros to cure any blue balls. In my experience you're less likely to get eaten alive by female predators in Colombia than many other destinations. The politest prostitutes in the region.

Don't offer money to a non pro hoping it'll make her horny. Tell her what you want, like taking her to your hotel room, and leave it to her to say what she wants. If she's a prepago she'll tell you her fee. If she's looking for true love she'll likely need time to get comfortable with you which is difficult in one short trip.

No you didn't insult me, my skin is pretty thick as is my waistline. LOL. But not that I live in the countries I visit but I do visit frequently. I just never consider them shit holes. I have been in some rough places but most all the people I meet love there country and don't think of it as a shithole. Also I try to meet girls while not perfect are still very kool and especially Colombia dress to impress. I have met and stayed in touch with a few girls and enjoy there company.

I am totally looking forward to my trip next week. I love partying and meeting girls! But I also just enjoy getting away from all the work and bullshit I have to deal with in my normal daily life. My little 5-10 day excursions give me the break I need.

Happy hunting!

I can't wait!

[QUOTE=CharmCityDave;1838618]Mr Can, I sense I have insulted you with my comment and that was not my intention. Yes foreign countries are not shit holes, but I was picturing in my mind the child being brought up by poor single mother who could not adequately provide for them, especially once their prime earning years were over. If one does the right thing and takes respectability for supporting their children and provides both financial and parental support, I have no issue with it. Since I do not intend to do that, getting cut was for me the ethical way to go.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PerfectLover;1840165]Since I'm new to mongering, I'd hate to offer money to a non-pro and offend her since I believe that the best GFE can be had from a non-pro.[/QUOTE]So why are you even mentioning offering money to normal women is what I am not understanding?

But most of the non-pros that I have been with know that I come to their countries often. If they know it is your first time visiting or your visit is a one off thing then I do not know what type of results you can expect.

[QUOTE=PerfectLover;1839957]Hi guys,

I'm planning to visit Colombia for 2 weeks in April. I've read up on the scene there somewhat and I found that using Tagged is a good thing.

The thing is, I'm not sure how to approach the girls on it. Should I be forward and offer money straight away or should I try and nurture the relation with them and ask for sex much much later on? I do speak Spanish so that's not a problem.

Also, I've read that there are a number of scammer on Tagged. Would the tactic of eliminating girls with a single photo on their profile be good enough?[/QUOTE]I find Facebook to be better than Tagged, but they both worth the same way. And also free dating apps like Tinder as long as you are already in the area.

My technique is just start adding as many "Meet Me" and "Yes" swipes as possible. With Tag and Tinder it is all about the quantity to start. I have seen girls accounts and they get hundreds of requests a day. So it is easy for them to choose. The initial entry into a girls online account is the hardest, so you really need to start with some good pictures and a good bio write up.

Once you made a connection, then of course you add them as friends, but be careful with Facebook because they will flag your account. Tagged and Tinder don't seem to limit the amount of people you add as friends or messages sent.

Once they added you as a friend, you can start adding their friends who you think are hot. So in reality you don't have to set your target on the initial girl. Once a girl can see who you are friends with and share an mutual friend, they will be more likely to add you as a friend. Then you can start sending them a copy and paste message that you will be visiting on such and such dates. Again Facebook doesn't like spam and will flag your account if you go too crazy with the copy and paste messages. Facebook is more about patience. Tagged and Tinder is a free for all, but I personally get less results than I do with Facebook.

Most of time you can pick out the pros from the pictures. You will see them in fancy hotels and resorts that the normal girl will never be able to afford. Sometimes they mix in their normal every day house and family where you can see they come from poor area, but a lot of girls have multiple accounts.

The normal girls who are non pros won't have pictures by themselves in a fancy hotel. If they do have their own money and are in nice hotels, most likely their friends an family will also be in the pictures. You can try wasting time with those girls, but it will still cost you money and time. If you are a short vacation it may not be worth the effort, but if you are willing to put in the time, it may work out nice in the end. If they find out you are with prostitutes, most likely they won't want to mess with you and look as you as a playboy.

In the end it will always come down to how much time and money you want to spend. I consider my homework part of the trip. So I don't mind spending the time adding girls to my social network.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1840339]So why are you even mentioning offering money to normal women is what I am not understanding?

But most of the non-pros that I have been with know that I come to their countries often. If they know it is your first time visiting or your visit is a one off thing then I do not know what type of results you can expect.[/QUOTE]They are going to eat this man up. Offering money to a girl who is a non working girl is also a way for him to get his ass kicked, as you know Mr. Enternational with your vast experience how Latinas can be if they are insulted, and that is exactly what he is doing if he should offer money to a girl who is not in the pay for play scene.

Does the 100.000-150.000 exit fee apply to chicas your just taking for a quick session, or is just applied to chicas your taking out TLN?

Has anyone seen this article by the Washington Post? Do you know of anyone that has gotten infected while in Colombia?

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Zika has been linked to birth defects. Now it may be causing paralysis.

TURBO, Colombia The Zika epidemic flaring across the Americas has produced several hot spots with large numbers of cases. But there is no place quite like Turbo.

The mosquito-borne virus has spread rapidly here and across lowland Colombia, but the city is unusual for the subsequent outbreak of a rare, debilitating disorder known as Guillain-Barre syndrome, whose precise link to the virus remains unclear. Before Zika's arrival in Turbo, a mostly Afro-Colombian town of 60,000 set amid vast banana plantations on the country's north coast, doctors typically saw one case of Guillain-Barre a year, if that.

In the past six weeks, there have been five, all of them severe. Three patients have died. One is fighting for his life in an intensive care unit. The fifth, a 10-year-old girl, hasn't been able to move her legs in a week.

FULL ARTICLE: [URL]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/world/wp/2016/02/21/zika-has-been-linked-to-birth-defects-now-it-may-be-causing-paralysis/[/URL].

So was planning a trip to Colombia near the end of March since flights are cheap. Just found out that it's Holy Week during this time and stuff might be closed and people off with their families. Was wondering if it's worth taking a trip during this time or should I just find another place to visit?

Thanks for any advice you can give.

[QUOTE=Benargen;1846275]So was planning a trip to Colombia near the end of March since flights are cheap. Just found out that it's Holy Week during this time and stuff might be closed and people off with their families. Was wondering if it's worth taking a trip during this time or should I just find another place to visit?

Thanks for any advice you can give.[/QUOTE]Benargen.


FWIW, I have spent Holy Week in Medellin and it wasn't that bad outside of Thursday and (Good) Friday. I would say that through Wednesday the activity was about 80% of normal. Thursday and Friday things shut down and the only action was if you made plans with a girl you already knew. Then Saturday, things picked up again.

There are several recent posts in the Medellin reports section addressing this issue.

IMO if it's the only time you can go, I wouldn't be dissuaded.

[QUOTE=Combo;1846726]Benargen.

FWIW, I have spent Holy Week in Medellin and it wasn't that bad outside of Thursday and (Good) Friday. I would say that through Wednesday the activity was about 80% of normal. Thursday and Friday things shut down and the only action was if you made plans with a girl you already knew. Then Saturday, things picked up again.

There are several recent posts in the Medellin reports section addressing this issue.

IMO if it's the only time you can go, I wouldn't be dissuaded.[/QUOTE]Combo,

Thanks for the information. I did see the posting over in the Medellin reports but nothing super clear like what you just stated. I was actually looking to fly in Thursday and stay till Monday or Tuesday. From what you're saying, if I do get in Thursday night then Friday is tourist sight seeing day? Also if you had to pick between Medellin or Cartagena during this same time period which would you choose and why? I was thinking about Colombia because flying there is so cheap around that time but I could also do Budapest or somewhere similar in Europe.

[QUOTE=Benargen;1846746]Combo,

Thanks for the information. I did see the posting over in the Medellin reports but nothing super clear like what you just stated. I was actually looking to fly in Thursday and stay till Monday or Tuesday. From what you're saying, if I do get in Thursday night then Friday is tourist sight seeing day? Also if you had to pick between Medellin or Cartagena during this same time period which would you choose and why? I was thinking about Colombia because flying there is so cheap around that time but I could also do Budapest or somewhere similar in Europe.[/QUOTE]Haven't been to Cartagena during Holy Week, so I can't compare to MDE. However if you are arriving on Thursday, yes, you should just resign yourself to touristy things for Thursday and Friday. Saturday after Good Friday, things will pick up and by Monday, things will be back to normal. Would be nice if you get get there a few days earlier so you could set up something for Thursday and Friday.

[QUOTE=Combo;1846726]Benargen.

FWIW, I have spent Holy Week in Medellin and it wasn't that bad outside of Thursday and (Good) Friday. I would say that through Wednesday the activity was about 80% of normal. Thursday and Friday things shut down and the only action was if you made plans with a girl you already knew. Then Saturday, things picked up again.

There are several recent posts in the Medellin reports section addressing this issue.

IMO if it's the only time you can go, I wouldn't be dissuaded.[/QUOTE]I agree 100%, Thursday and Friday suck unless you've made prior arrangements or have reliable contacts.

Before and after, all systems Go!

I'm planning another Bogota trip for early April, problem is my passport expires on June 29,2016, a little more then 3 months after my arrival. Anyone have experience with the less then 6 month validity rule in Colombia?

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1849383]I'm planning another Bogota trip for early April, problem is my passport expires on June 29,2016, a little more then 3 months after my arrival. Anyone have experience with the less then 6 month validity rule in Colombia?[/QUOTE]You may not have to worry about Colombia. The airline may not even let you on the plane. They get big fines for letting people through who don't meet the requirements. Two times ago they would not let a guy on because his passport was considered damaged.

[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1849383]I'm planning another Bogota trip for early April, problem is my passport expires on June 29,2016, a little more then 3 months after my arrival. Anyone have experience with the less then 6 month validity rule in Colombia?[/QUOTE]Last July I asked the Immigration Agent in BOG as I was leaving how Colombia treated expiring Passports. He advised me that the Passport needed to be valid on the Day that you departed Colombia.

I entered on 12/26/15 and departed on 1/4/16 with a Passport that expired on 2/22/16 with no issues. Well, I did have one issue on entering.

When I arrived in CTG, the Immigration Agent had a Supervisor Title on his station and he asked me very sternly after trying to find a page to stamp. "Why do you come to Colombia so often?

I responded, "Tengo Novia". His stone face cracked a slight smile and he stamped my entry and I was off.

Many girls on Cupid or even Latineuro starts the "conversation" on whatsapp, " have no food", " I can't pay my rent, I will be on the street tomorrow".

A former star, rapidly falling in popularity, Lilibeth Winounawal, just few years ago, have no new tweets or followers, and back in 2011 she was host for an major international modelevent in Bogota.

She is awesome, but so are 100-1000 models.

2012 I met a model that had been on Peruvian TV.

After their contracts ends they have nothing more than bills.

That instagram-thread on the Medellin board could be interesting, since it can lead us to those girls that have 10-faces, as a guy remarket, she has to have a 10 face, no matter ig she has a 11 or even 12 body was his points.

Juliana Elejalde fucks her way through EAFIT, or doesn't study there at all. She has an IQ and worldview of a child, just like Lilibeth.

As Legal tender once got a recomendation of a real hottie dentalstudent. From her teachers!

Then, as for all us living in Artifcial Paradises, reality knocks on the door!

Lilibeth and Juliana are now 28/29/30 and still have not left the Estrato1-3, after having being a well payed pet for he Estrato 5-6 for several years.

Ao there the gringo option comes as a savior; it is a stigmatic thing to do, but left with no other options and running out on dope, headache and anxiety, panic comes.

Her normal schoolmates, some of them also having payed their tuition via some prepago work, but never leaving reality and focusing on their formal career.

They, the former nobodies, now she has to meet them, as an addict, going in therapy and gaining in weight since the fell-good and appetite-lowering drugs has run out.

I have been overly active on Cupid and Latineuro mostly, both sites are mainly, but far from total, connection zones for prostitutes meeting clients. Medium or ugly girls simply doesn't get attention at all, while men get beautiful girls, since they have so much more money.

Facing this, that their short but intense career are over, gringos, seen as Living Fat Wallets, but nobody you take home to introduce to your family, except that (she) he has promised them an exotic vacation.

Here the two extremes meets.

Normally we are not interesting for Colombian Girls. They want to advance. They have no contact with the Global Society.

Catching a Gringo Man is seen as cheating, it's not real. The family don't accept it. The sign the papers, but they hope he sends a lots of money and a have big life-insurance and she hopes her wild sexual energy + an overdose of Viagra, legally, kills him, and makes her a "millionaire", by Colombian standards.

People think that "Modelo de Protocolo" and "Mejor Cola de la Valle", Chica's Car Audio" pays accordingly to the attention. But it does not.

The models, they are also in the Pimp-girls book. They earn extra for being models, but the modeling itself is just a way to find the right path, which seldom happens.

Lilibeth, being "jubilada" in her profession, focus to publish fotos from Miss Colombia; and things like Las Las Vegas & Disney Land. , and 90% on herself in a few themes; her lips, her 3/4 naked body, dressed for success.

At the same time we have Universities with tuitions of 6-7 M COP per semester for Communication Social. The public-private Universities, which everyone can afford, one the other hand doesn't give you a job. The Estrato +4-6 have strong rules for which they let in their sphere.

Maybe Juliana, just like that dentist student, and less likely, Lilibeth, can get their diploma from the prestige Universities, without actually knowing shit, but that is also a talent, hiding that your are incompetent.

Any veteran Monger, like Frank Casio, KickBoxer, that have stories to tell; What happened with those Guapas that we admired so much 5-10-15 years ago?

I now have changed from typical Mongering, Paruq Lleras, La 70 life; and are planning to live in Medellin my 180 days a year, maybe get married, even it it means what it means, I can stay as I want to even become a Colombian citizen, after 3 years I think, probably more. You have to be married and having lived in Colombia in 3 years, but permanent Visa might exist, or just be flexible; €100 to live like a King in Venezuela doesn't seems to bad, but requieres planning, it's risky. Brazil with it's 14% central bank rate, is meeting a world economy that no longer buys their products, if they don't get a heavy discount, I. E. Let the BRL fall, the whole country is overpriced at least 50%, for us mongerers, 66-77%.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854309]Many girls on Cupid or even Latineuro starts the "conversation" on whatsapp, " have no food", " I can't pay my rent, I will be on the street tomorrow".

A former star, rapidly falling in popularity, Lilibeth Winounawal, just few years ago, have no new tweets or followers, and back in 2011 she was host for an major international modelevent in Bogota.

She is awesome, but so are 100-1000 models.

2012 I met a model that had been on Peruvian TV.

After their contracts ends they have nothing more than bills.

That instagram-thread on the Medellin board could be interesting, since it can lead us to those girls that have 10-faces, as a guy remarket, she has to have a 10 face, no matter ig she has a 11 or even 12 body was his points.

Juliana Elejalde fucks her way through EAFIT, or doesn't study there at all. She has an IQ and worldview of a child, just like Lilibeth.

As Legal tender once got a recomendation of a real hottie dentalstudent. From her teachers!

Then, as for all us living in Artifcial Paradises, reality knocks on the door!

Lilibeth and Juliana are now 28/29/30 and still have not left the Estrato1-3, after having being a well payed pet for he Estrato 5-6 for several years.

Ao there the gringo option comes as a savior; it is a stigmatic thing to do, but left with no other options and running out on dope, headache and anxiety, panic comes.

Her normal schoolmates, some of them also having payed their tuition via some prepago work, but never leaving reality and focusing on their formal career.

They, the former nobodies, now she has to meet them, as an addict, going in therapy and gaining in weight since the fell-good and appetite-lowering drugs has run out.

I have been overly active on Cupid and Latineuro mostly, both sites are mainly, but far from total, connection zones for prostitutes meeting clients. Medium or ugly girls simply doesn't get attention at all, while men get beautiful girls, since they have so much more money.

Facing this, that their short but intense career are over, gringos, seen as Living Fat Wallets, but nobody you take home to introduce to your family, except that (she) he has promised them an exotic vacation.

Here the two extremes meets.

Normally we are not interesting for Colombian Girls. They want to advance. They have no contact with the Global Society.

Catching a Gringo Man is seen as cheating, it's not real. The family don't accept it. The sign the papers, but they hope he sends a lots of money and a have big life-insurance and she hopes her wild sexual energy + an overdose of Viagra, legally, kills him, and makes her a "millionaire", by Colombian standards.

People think that "Modelo de Protocolo" and "Mejor Cola de la Valle", Chica's Car Audio" pays accordingly to the attention. But it does not.

The models, they are also in the Pimp-girls book. They earn extra for being models, but the modelling itself is just a way to find the right path, which seldom happens.

Lilibeth, being "jubilada" in her profession, focus to publish fotos from Miss Colombia; and things like Las Las Vegas & Disney Land. , and 90% on herself in a few themes; her lips, her 3/4 naked body, dressed for success.

At the same time we have Universities with tuitions of 6-7 M COP per semester for Communicacion Social. The public-private Universities, which everyone can afford, one the other hand doesn't give you a job. The Estrato +4-6 have strong rules for which they let in their sphere.

Maybe Juliana, just like that denstist student, and less likely, Lilibeth, can get their diploma from the prestige Universities, without actually knowing shit, but that is also a talent, hiding that your are incompetent.

Any veteran Monger, like Frank Casio, KickBoxer, that have stories to tell; What happend with those Guapas that we admired so much 5-10-15 years ago?

I now have changed from typical Mongering, Paruq Lleras, La 70 life; and are planning to live in Medellin my 180 days a year, maybe get married, even it it means what it means, I can stay as I want to even become a Colombian citizen, after 3 years I think, probably more. You have to be married and having lived in Colombia in 3 years, but permanent Visa might exist, or just be flexible; 100 to live like a King in Venezuela doesn't seems to bad, but requieres planning, it's risky. Brazil with it's 14% central bank rate, is meeting a world economy that no longer buys their products, if they don't get a heavy discount, I. E. Let the BRL fall, the whole country is overpriced at least 50%, for us mongerers, 66-77%.[/QUOTE]Very interesting observations. Not that I agree with everything but true in many regards and a good overall characterization.

The Tall Man.

She still ask for USD and like $500 LOL.

[URL]https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=589610618&fref=ts[/URL]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854309]Many girls on Cupid or even Latineuro starts the "conversation" on whatsapp, " have no food", " I can't pay my rent, I will be on the street tomorrow".

A former star, rapidly falling in popularity, Lilibeth Winounawal, just few years ago, have no new tweets or followers, and back in 2011 she was host for an major international modelevent in Bogota.

She is awesome, but so are 100-1000 models.

2012 I met a model that had been on Peruvian TV.

After their contracts ends they have nothing more than bills.

That instagram-thread on the Medellin board could be interesting, since it can lead us to those girls that have 10-faces, as a guy remarket, she has to have a 10 face, no matter ig she has a 11 or even 12 body was his points..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;1854309]Many girls on Cupid or even Latineuro starts the "conversation" on whatsapp, " have no food", " I can't pay my rent, I will be on the street tomorrow".

A former star, rapidly falling in popularity, Lilibeth Winounawal, just few years ago, have no new tweets or followers, and back in 2011 she was host for an major international modelevent in Bogota.

She is awesome, but so are 100-1000 models.

2012 I met a model that had been on Peruvian TV.

After their contracts ends they have nothing more than bills.

That instagram-thread on the Medellin board could be interesting, since it can lead us to those girls that have 10-faces, as a guy remarket, she has to have a 10 face, no matter ig she has a 11 or even 12 body was his points.

Juliana Elejalde fucks her way through EAFIT, or doesn't study there at all. She has an IQ and worldview of a child, just like Lilibeth...[/QUOTE]The whole model thing is like an pro athlete. Because you are young you will make a lot of money fast and for a short period of time but after that you value will decrease rapidly, and you will have no choice but to go try somewhere else. I have seen baseball / soccer athletes on the same pad. Start young going to big leagues and making a lot of money but after some shit went wrong / injury no team wants you anymore, you only choice is to go try in another country change environment.

The same with those chicas a guy told me once most of these models value decrease after 25/27 because there is always going to be fresh 18/19/20 yo old that a lot of guys like. But for me it doesn't matter I still like them chicas till at 35.

Sorry to bother you with questions, but I haven't found an answer (maybe I've just search badly). I've started to learn Spanish, so I decided to go to the Latin America. Colombia or Ecuador. Enjoy the nature, some diving, some mongering, improving my Spanish. I'm used to from Thailand and Philippines to take girl for a LT. I don't want to use internet services like DIA, because of too much emotional investment.

OK, to the question. Is common to take a girl in Colombia or Ecuador for LT? Is any chance to do so in smaller cities? I guess, it wouldn't be smart to do so with girls from the street. Can you advise me, how to enjoy the nights there and don't make something stupid? Whom I could, more or less, believe (hell, in Asia it was easy. I could believe anybody from a club or official bar)?

I'm not from US, so, I wouldn't like to pay US prices. I'm not talking about big cities, because I want to see the country. And I'm not brother of Brad Pitt.

Thanks

It's totally possible. Bottom line you meet girls and if you hit it off it's very possible that they would like to stay LT. Especially if your staying in nice places. Lasrpt time I was in Cartagena I had to tell two girls they couldn't stay and it had nothing to do with money. I wouldn't try to suggest just setting something before hand. Girls are very friendly in Colombia. Meet girls and see were it goes. Dress nice if even casually.

[QUOTE=Fake26;1857543]Sorry to bother you with questions, but I haven't found an answer (maybe I've just search badly). I've started to learn Spanish, so I decided to go to the Latin America. Colombia or Ecuador. Enjoy the nature, some diving, some mongering, improving my Spanish. I'm used to from Thailand and Philippines to take girl for a LT. I don't want to use internet services like DIA, because of too much emotional investment.

OK, to the question. Is common to take a girl in Colombia or Ecuador for LT? Is any chance to do so in smaller cities? I guess, it wouldn't be smart to do so with girls from the street. Can you advise me, how to enjoy the nights there and don't make something stupid? Whom I could, more or less, believe (hell, in Asia it was easy. I could believe anybody from a club or official bar)?

I'm not from US, so, I wouldn't like to pay US prices. I'm not talking about big cities, because I want to see the country. And I'm not brother of Brad Pitt.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1857918]It's totally possible. Bottom line you meet girls and if you hit it off it's very possible that they would like to stay LT. Especially if your staying in nice places. Lasrpt time I was in Cartagena I had to tell two girls they couldn't stay and it had nothing to do with money. I wouldn't try to suggest just setting something before hand. Girls are very friendly in Colombia. Meet girls and see were it goes. Dress nice if even casually.[/QUOTE]One thing I would add. I wouldn't advise getting too far off the tourist track. There are many areas in Colombia that are not safe for tourists. Get in the wrong area and your LT might turn into a much longer time, until someone pays the ransom. And that's not the worst possible outcome.

There are plenty of good options, just do your research.

Good advice!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1857953]One thing I would add. I wouldn't advise getting too far off the tourist track. There are many areas in Colombia that are not safe for tourists. Get in the wrong area and your LT might turn into a much longer time, until someone pays the ransom. And that's not the worst possible outcome.

There are plenty of good options, just do your research.[/QUOTE]

Thanks a lot. In Vietnam, Na Thrang, I wanted to get a T-shirt "I'm not from Russia". In Colombia, I will probably get a T-shirt "I'm not from US".

One important question. Whom I can, more or less, trust? I will be in somehow touristic areas, but can I leave a girl from bar or club overnight without fear, because they are checked by mamsan like in Asia? With freelancers its clear, but dunno about professionals.

Trust? You have to meet girls and get a feel for how things are going. I been going to Colombia a long time and often leave girls in my room sleeping. I get up early (: but I have known them for awhile. It's tuff to just ask who can you trust? I guess no one until you get to know them.

[QUOTE=Fake26;1858025]Thanks a lot. In Vietnam, Na Thrang, I wanted to get a T-shirt "I'm not from Russia". In Colombia, I will probably get a T-shirt "I'm not from US".

One important question. Whom I can, more or less, trust? I will be in somehow touristic areas, but can I leave a girl from bar or club overnight without fear, because they are checked by mamsan like in Asia? With freelancers its clear, but dunno about professionals.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone seen the live sex show at Luna Lunera, is it worth going to check out or not, rolling solo next trip, trying to find things to occupy my time, when I'm not fucking.

In any country do not wear anything that has a name on it.

No name on your t-shirts or caps.

Blend in.

If someone ask where your are from say California, don't say USA. That is what I do.


[QUOTE=Fake26;1858025]Thanks a lot. In Vietnam, Na Thrang, I wanted to get a T-shirt "I'm not from Russia". In Colombia, I will probably get a T-shirt "I'm not from US".

One important question. Whom I can, more or less, trust? I will be in somehow touristic areas, but can I leave a girl from bar or club overnight without fear, because they are checked by mamsan like in Asia? With freelancers its clear, but dunno about professionals.[/QUOTE]

What city do you want to know about.

There are not many Gringos bars in South America.

It is a lot different from Costa Rica or the the. Are.

There are Lists in their threads for most cities, with some other information about tourists areas.

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860909]What are the safe areas? How would a newbie going to a strange country know?

Do you know where a list is of the Gringo bars also and how to get to them safely?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1861002]In any country do not wear anything that has a name on it.

No name on your t-shirts or caps.

Blend in.

If someone ask where your are from say California, don't say USA. That is what I do.[/QUOTE]That is funny advice. I was in Nha Trang 3 years ago. As a Black guy from Georgia I do not think it mattered what I wore; I was NOT going to blend in. As a matter of fact, the only other Black guy I saw during my 10 day and 4 city tour of Vietnam was a guy in Hanoi who was from Washington, DC. I know this is an extreme example, but no matter how much you think you are blending in, they know their own people.

Think of it in reverse. If they came to your city (other than New York and Miami) would they blend in? I am in Dominican Republic now, and with all of the Black people that live here, if they came to Atlanta they would not blend in. There is nothing about them that says Black American, especially Black American from Atlanta.

By the way, I tell people I am from Thailand. I live there and have a driver's license from there. Nobody questions it because they really don't give a fuck. You could say you are from Mars and get the same response. It is one of those questions the same as how are you doing; just a form of being polite or breaking the ice.

You are right. It did not matter what I wore in China, Thailand, Korea or Japan, I did not fit in.

But, Central, South American and the Caribbean it is possible to not stand out in a lot of areas.

I disagree about Atlanta. The people from D. R. could fit in, so long as they dress the same. But of course the language would give them away.
Same as it would give me away.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1861021]That is funny advice. I was in Nha Trang 3 years ago. As a Black guy from Georgia I do not think it mattered what I wore; I was NOT going to blend in. As a matter of fact, the only other Black guy I saw during my 10 day and 4 city tour of Vietnam was a guy in Hanoi who was from Washington, DC. I know this is an extreme example, but no matter how much you think you are blending in, they know their own people.

Think of it in reverse. If they came to your city (other than New York and Miami) would they blend in? I am in Dominican Republic now, and with all of the Black people that live here, if they came to Atlanta they would not blend in. There is nothing about them that says Black American, especially Black American from Atlanta.

By the way, I tell people I am from Thailand. I live there and have a driver's license from there. Nobody questions it because they really don't give a fuck. You could say you are from Mars and get the same response. It is one of those questions the same as how are you doing; just a form of being polite or breaking the ice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860909]What are the safe areas? How would a newbie going to a strange country know?

Do you know where a list is of the Gringo bars also and how to get to them safely?[/QUOTE]How does a newbie find the safe areas in any country? Do some research. The US State Department website has lots of good information on most countries. They include things such as suggested or required vaccinations, current scams or criminal trends and areas of the country to avoid. That's a starting point.

From there, there are many travel blogs which report on current events in different cities and of course there is ISG. There's more information than you will have time to read.

Another source is review websites such as TripAdvisor. With everything, evaluate what you read. One hotel I recently read reviews on had several recent bad reviews. The hotel is used by some sex vacation companies, where an escort will meet and stay with a tourist for several days (for a hefty fee). All the bad reviews came from members of a Christian missionary group who thought a beach hotel in Juan Dolio, Dominican Republic would be a pure, wholesome place to pray. Oops.

If you're sociable, get on some different international matchmaking websites. You can find women who you might not have any interest in, but who are nice to talk to. Some are happy just to have a person to help improve their English. They can be very helpful by informing you of things which never make the news. Often they are a great source of information, not only about safety, but about things you never thought about, but could cause you problems.

As a general rule, stick to the beaten path. If you can book a flight to a city from your local airport, with 2 or less transfers, it's probably safe to visit. That doesn't mean the whole city is like a trip to Disneyworld, there are always areas best avoided.

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860909]What are the safe areas? How would a newbie going to a strange country know?

Do you know where a list is of the Gringo bars also and how to get to them safely?[/QUOTE]Problem is that the safe areas aren't the fun/cheap areas. If it is somewhere I am not familiar with then I just literally get in a taxi and say "Where the bit-ches aaaattttt?"

[quote=jjbee62;1861097]the us state department website has lots of good information[/quote]

rotflmfao.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1861284]rotflmfao.[/QUOTE]Why do you find that funny?

Notice, I didn't say the state department is a good place for mongering information. You won't find current prepago rates posted there (but I'm sure someone knows them). You won't find where the hottest girls are, or even where to buy condoms.

However, you will find warnings about the current political situation, specific dangers to US citizens, disease risks and crime trends as they relate to tourism. For a first time visitor, or an infrequent visitor, this is good information to have.

They tend towards the conservative side on some things, especially those things which may be illegal, but that's to be expected. For any new international traveler, that should be the first stop, especially since you can find passport, visa, entry requirements and length of stay rules there.

In all the trip research and traveling I have done especially traveling to Colombia and many other places, the last place I ever thought of going were the safest places. No way do I want to see the safest places I would rather me dead. .

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860909]What are the safe areas? How would a newbie going to a strange country know?

Do you know where a list is of the Gringo bars also and how to get to them safely?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1861661]


However, you will find warnings about the current political situation, specific dangers to US citizens, disease risks and crime trends as they relate to tourism. For a first time visitor, or an infrequent visitor, this is good information to have.

They tend towards the conservative side on some things, especially those things which may be illegal, but that's to be expected. For any new international traveler, that should be the first stop, especially since you can find passport, visa, entry requirements and length of stay rules there.[/QUOTE]Keep drinking the Kool-Aid, my friend.

There is much conversation about Venezolanas in Medellin thread but I think more of them are in Bogota. On my recent trip in Bogota 3 of the 7 chicas I was with were Venezolanas. On the same trip, I did not meet any Venezolanas in Medellin.

Here is a sample from one source which I did not use. I actually met them in the casas.

[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/chapinero-bogota/buscar.venezolanas[/URL]

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1861021] if they came to Atlanta they would not blend in.[/QUOTE]LOL they would fit in on Buford highway, Dekalb farmers market or Duluth. Hell just last week they were looking at me funny on Buford.

LOL jokes aside yes they would stand out like a sore thumb in Atlanta.

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1861052]You are right. It did not matter what I wore in China, Thailand, Korea or Japan, I did not fit in.
But, Central, South American and the Caribbean it is possible to not stand out in a lot of areas.[/QUOTE]It's Asia in general. Anyone from the west with our pale or "chocolate man" skin height and big noses stand out there immediately. As soon as they see us we might as well be in wheelchair with our hair dyed green.

Even their peripheral vision will spot us as an oddity.

We can't even pretend we are from the "far east" just roll with it.

With Latin America its a mixed bag. If someone with an eye for detail is studying you and paying close attention they will know. Despite what you wear or how you behave. They will see through it.

Others who are busy or just not thinking that much about you may ignore you and you fly under the radar.

[QUOTE=GringooFuk;1860909]What are the safe areas? How would a newbie going to a strange country know?

Do you know where a list is of the Gringo bars also and how to get to them safely?[/QUOTE]Medellin isn't really a big gringo tourist destination. Yeah we go but most tourists are from like Panama or other Latin American countries.

Like Mr. Enternational said just use the taxis. They are pretty standard and safe. If you get a chance download an app called "easy taxi" its pretty popular there. It lets you ring up a taxi like uber.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1863480]Here is a sample from one source which I did not use. I actually met them in the casas.
[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/chapinero-bogota/buscar.venezolanas[/URL][/QUOTE]Nice link. I took a look for the Medellin area (Antioquia). That site looks. Hmm. Interesting. I'll be there at the end of the month and may try it.

Thanks!

Thanks for this sir!

I have never seen this site before.

Nice to see many of them have whatsapp.

[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1863480]There is much conversation about Venezolanas in Medellin thread but I think more of them are in Bogota. On my recent trip in Bogota 3 of the 7 chicas I was with were Venezolanas. On the same trip, I did not meet any Venezolanas in Medellin.

Here is a sample from one source which I did not use. I actually met them in the casas.

[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/chapinero-bogota/buscar.venezolanas[/URL][/QUOTE]

Arriving in MDE for the first time this week, actually first time in Colombia, I made a first-time ATM withdrawal at the airport. No problem, once you understand you have to MOVE FAST or the machine will cancel the transaction if you dally. I tried a few other ATMs with no problems this week, including a Banco Bogota, next to Relax on Carrera 74. However, on Thursday night I needed cash, and I found two ATMs from two different Colombian banks on Carrera 70 rejected my card. I was getting a little worried and then tried the ATM at a nearby BBVA branch, and I withdrew money with no other problems. The next morning I decided to have a last session at Relax, and I tried to get cash out of the ATM, I had previously used. No dice. The ATM rejected the transaction, though it had given me money three nights earlier. I walked down the block to the BBVA branch and got money from their ATM with no hassle.

What made BBVA different from the Colombian banks? I am assuming that being a gigantic, global, "First World" bank might have been a factor. But, the lesson is that if one bank rejects your card, that doesn't mean all of them will. And if a bank's ATM does accept your ATM once, there is not guarantee it will accept it again, despite having adequate funds. So, if you are experiencing trouble using your Yanqui credit union debit card that still doesn't have a chip in it, you are not alone. You just need to find a better bank.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1866286]Arriving in MDE for the first time this week, actually first time in Colombia, I made a first-time ATM withdrawal at the airport. No problem, once you understand you have to MOVE FAST or the machine will cancel the transaction if you dally. I tried a few other ATMs with no problems this week, including a Banco Bogota, next to Relax on Carrera 74. However, on Thursday night I needed cash, and I found two ATMs from two different Colombian banks on Carrera 70 rejected my card. I was getting a little worried and then tried the ATM at a nearby BBVA branch, and I withdrew money with no other problems. The next morning I decided to have a last session at Relax, and I tried to get cash out of the ATM, I had previously used. No dice. The ATM rejected the transaction, though it had given me money three nights earlier. I walked down the block to the BBVA branch and got money from their ATM with no hassle.

What made BBVA different from the Colombian banks? I am assuming that being a gigantic, global, "First World" bank might have been a factor. But, the lesson is that if one bank rejects your card, that doesn't mean all of them will. And if a bank's ATM does accept your ATM once, there is not guarantee it will accept it again, despite having adequate funds. So, if you are experiencing trouble using your Yanqui credit union debit card that still doesn't have a chip in it, you are not alone. You just need to find a better bank.[/QUOTE]I had the same problem in Bogota, except the only ATM that worked for me was Citibank. I was about ready to panic after failing at 8 different ATMs.

Hoping that now I have a chipped card that won't be an issue next time.

As a rule, expect all Colombia-based banks' ATM's to require a chip card. You may find one that doesn't; but as Eszpresszo reported, it may work one day but not the next. Most of the ATM's have a message on the screen telling you a chip card is required, but the message is only in Spanish. I think Citibank ATM's will accept non-chip cards, but you have to pay the ridiculous ATM fees if you are not a Citibank customer. Also, Eszpresszo reported that BBVA ATM's accept non-chip cards.

Contrary to Eszpresszo's thinking about third-world banking, it is the US banking system that is technologically "third-world". Most of the civilized countries are now requiring all cards, debit and credit, to have a chip. The magnetic stripe is out-dated technology.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1866476]As a rule, expect all Colombia-based banks' ATM's to require a chip card. You may find one that doesn't; but as Eszpresszo reported, it may work one day but not the next. Most of the ATM's have a message on the screen telling you a chip card is required, but the message is only in Spanish. I think Citibank ATM's will accept non-chip cards, but you have to pay the ridiculous ATM fees if you are not a Citibank customer. Also, Eszpresszo reported that BBVA ATM's accept non-chip cards.

Contrary to Eszpresszo's thinking about third-world banking, it is the US banking system that is technologically "third-world". Most of the civilized countries are now requiring all cards, debit and credit, to have a chip. The magnetic stripe is out-dated technology.[/QUOTE]It was only my credit union debit card that doesn't have the chip yet. All my other cards, from US based banks (both credit cards and a Wells Fargo debit card I have from another checking account) have chips. However, the Wells debit card didn't work in the Colombian banks either, despite it being brand new and having a chip. But the WF card is only my backup card, while I have my reasons for preferring to use my credit union's debit card, with its magnetic stripe and all (and it never works that well at home, either). I recall seeing the locals having trouble with their cards, as well.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1866286]Arriving in MDE for the first time this week, actually first time in Colombia, I made a first-time ATM withdrawal at the airport. No problem, once you understand you have to MOVE FAST or the machine will cancel the transaction if you dally. I tried a few other ATMs with no problems this week, including a Banco Bogota, next to Relax on Carrera 74. However, on Thursday night I needed cash, and I found two ATMs from two different Colombian banks on Carrera 70 rejected my card. I was getting a little worried and then tried the ATM at a nearby BBVA branch, and I withdrew money with no other problems. The next morning I decided to have a last session at Relax, and I tried to get cash out of the ATM, I had previously used. No dice. The ATM rejected the transaction, though it had given me money three nights earlier. I walked down the block to the BBVA branch and got money from their ATM with no hassle.

What made BBVA different from the Colombian banks? I am assuming that being a gigantic, global, "First World" bank might have been a factor. But, the lesson is that if one bank rejects your card, that doesn't mean all of them will. And if a bank's ATM does accept your ATM once, there is not guarantee it will accept it again, despite having adequate funds. So, if you are experiencing trouble using your Yanqui credit union debit card that still doesn't have a chip in it, you are not alone. You just need to find a better bank.[/QUOTE]Good tip guys. Always use different banks and keep trying. Just like the girls YMMV with ATMs.

Another tip is to always notify the institution that you will be traveling. Often times I find they will let you do it even a month in advance. If not add it on your to do list before travel.

[QUOTE=FunLuvr;1866476]As a rule, expect all Colombia-based banks' ATM's to require a chip card. You may find one that doesn't; but as Eszpresszo reported, it may work one day but not the next. Most of the ATM's have a message on the screen telling you a chip card is required, but the message is only in Spanish. I think Citibank ATM's will accept non-chip cards, but you have to pay the ridiculous ATM fees if you are not a Citibank customer. Also, Eszpresszo reported that BBVA ATM's accept non-chip cards.

Contrary to Eszpresszo's thinking about third-world banking, it is the US banking system that is technologically "third-world". Most of the civilized countries are now requiring all cards, debit and credit, to have a chip. The magnetic stripe is out-dated technology.[/QUOTE]Yep. When handing a swipe card to a merchant in Europe they look at you as if you just gave them a punch card or floppy disk. To add insult to injury, yes USA has chip but its chip and sign not chip and pin. Still way off the mark and archaic.

The UK is even trying to dump checks [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8414341.stm[/URL].

Unemployment raises:

More persons reaching 16/18 years than the market can give jobs.

Totally, the number of jobs increase, but since they are so many entering the labor market, unemployment raises simultaneously.

944 k more persons have jobs, but 216 k more have become unemployed.

On the Medellin thread I claimed that unemployment had rose 3% in one month (compared with the same months the year before).

However it's complicated.

DANE can explain it correct: [URL]http://www.dane.gov.co/index.php/mercado-laboral/empleo-y-desempleo[/URL].

Is there a bank in Colombia that has branches in the US, whereby if I open an account in the US, I could get banking services in Colombia? HSBC maybe?

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1875327]Is there a bank in Colombia that has branches in the US, whereby if I open an account in the US, I could get banking services in Colombia? HSBC maybe?[/QUOTE]There is a Citibank office in Bogota (or was. Someone mentioned something about Citibank closing S. A. Offices), not sure what services besides ATM usage they might offer.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1875327]Is there a bank in Colombia that has branches in the US, whereby if I open an account in the US, I could get banking services in Colombia? HSBC maybe?[/QUOTE]I had HSBC in the States. It is not the same as HSBC Colombia or Peru. Although it is the same name I think banking rules are different in different countries so they do not operate the same. The people at the HSBC in Bogota could not even pull up my account. I would always get charged the ATM fee in Colombia and Peru and had to call them to refund it when I got back to the States. In other countries I was never charged the fee though.

The answer is no. If you want to open an account locally you need a cédula. Unless you're doing heavy banking in country just use CapitalOne for no forex. I myself have been down here for 10 years and have a cédula for 3 and only now opening an account!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1875327]Is there a bank in Colombia that has branches in the US, whereby if I open an account in the US, I could get banking services in Colombia? HSBC maybe?[/QUOTE]

I always bring cash as back up. Love Mac machines for rate and never had problem. One time I dropped ATM card at store but luckily retraced my steps and got it back the next day. But I always bring a few thousand US case I get into a jam.

[QUOTE=WorldJockey;1868032]Good tip guys. Always use different banks and keep trying. Just like the girls YMMV with ATMs.

Another tip is to always notify the institution that you will be traveling. Often times I find they will let you do it even a month in advance. If not add it on your to do list before travel.

Yep. When handing a swipe card to a merchant in Europe they look at you as if you just gave them a punch card or floppy disk. To add insult to injury, yes USA has chip but its chip and sign not chip and pin. Still way off the mark and archaic.

The UK is even trying to dump checks [URL]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8414341.stm[/URL].[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1875644]I always bring cash as back up. Love Mac machines for rate and never had problem. One time I dropped ATM card at store but luckily retraced my steps and got it back the next day. But I always bring a few thousand US case I get into a jam.[/QUOTE]Wow. Well I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who was paranoid about ATMs not working and carried cash instead. Your pay grade is a bit different from mine. I only carried a few hundred USD in case none of my cards worked (there was no way I was going to let any of the stateside "currency exchanges" rip me off for any amount of COP.).

So, if you don't mind me asking, what steps do you take to prevent theft? On my first (and only) visit I distributed my currency in three places: In an ordinary-looking leather belt with a secret stash pouch on the inside, some in my regular wallet, and the rest in a soft, neck wallet that I always tote abroad anyways, to keep my passport in. Luckily there were only brief minor detours in getting cash from ATMs, but I did bring enough to cover the minimum expenses for my stay. Without a safe in the hotel room, which is not a sure bet for security, I'd be nervous about carrying a few grand around. Advice for reducing risks or minimizing losses? I find myself thinking of Rob Schneider's stoner character on SNL, who was always contriving a "place to hide your weed".

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1875862]Wow. Well I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who was paranoid about ATMs not working and carried cash instead. Your paygrade is a bit different from mine. I only carried a few hundred USD in case none of my cards worked (there was no way I was going to let any of the stateside "currency exchanges" rip me off for any amount of COP.).

So, if you don't mind me asking, what steps do you take to prevent theft? On my first (and only) visit I distributed my currency in three places: In an ordinary-looking leather belt with a secret stash pouch on the inside, some in my regular wallet, and the rest in a soft, neck wallet that I always tote abroad anyways, to keep my passport in. Luckily there were only brief minor detours in getting cash from ATMs, but I did bring enough to cover the minimum expenses for my stay. Without a safe in the hotel room, which is not a sure bet for security, I'd be nervous about carrying a few grand around. Advice for reducing risks or minimizing losses? I find myself thinking of Rob Schneider's stoner character on SNL, who was always contriving a "place to hide your weed".[/QUOTE]I usually go to areas where there are a few ATMs around, in case one of them doesn't work I can try another or another. I go with Citibank most of the time and don't have any problems. Malls are usually a good spot for multiple ATMs.

I try not to carry large amounts of cash on me. If my hotel doesn't have a safe deposit box then I lock up my suitcase and put valuables in there. A friend of mine locks his suitcase then locks it to something solid in the room.

[QUOTE=YouCan;1875644]I always bring cash as back up. Love Mac machines for rate and never had problem. One time I dropped ATM card at store but luckily retraced my steps and got it back the next day. But I always bring a few thousand US case I get into a jam.[/QUOTE]I do the same exact thing, a couple grand in cash in case ATM issues and two ATM cards and always always enough cash for a quick exit to the airport in case shit goes down. Pacsafe keeps all my valuables secure.

I have been to Medellin many times in the last three years and never had a problem at the airport until my last trip.

Where I was asked a bunch of questions about why are you here so many times and contact info, is this to stop us.

From our hobby?

[QUOTE=Parchment10;1876288]I have been to Medellin many times in the last three years and never had a problem at the airport until my last trip.

Where I was asked a bunch of questions about why are you here so many times and contact info, is this to stop us.

From our hobby?[/QUOTE]Just be honest! Tell them Colombia has the most beautiful women and you are in love with their beautiful country! I got questioned by a Dominican customs woman about why I had so much baby oil and women's clothes. I told her the clothes were to get them to my room and the baby oil was for the sex after I got them there. She chuckled, waved me through, and said "thanks for being honest!

This is always one of the biggest questions when traveling. This ring especially true if you may bring a stranger (girl) back to your room.

How does one stash cash and passport?

If the hotel has a safe in the room or behind the counter I will only put a tiny fraction of my money in it. Just enough that may satisfy a thief to stop searching.

My wingman and I typically find hiding places in each others room then test each others hiding spots. I'll go to his room and he will ask me to find where he hid his money and vice versa. Same thing for passports.

Much of this of course depends on the place you're staying and your feeling about it. I will almost never walk the streets with my passport. Only a copy and maybe my DL.

That said I have begun to use more ATMs. I will find a few trusted ones early in the trip and hit them up. I have a capital one 360 account. They charge no transaction fees and it only has money on it for travel. This was if it gets stolen my regular account is relatively safe.

With using the ATM I obly carry a few hundred USD in case of emergency. Much easier to hide a card and a few hundred than a few thousand.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1875862]Wow. Well I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who was paranoid about ATMs not working and carried cash instead. Your paygrade is a bit different from mine. I only carried a few hundred USD in case none of my cards worked (there was no way I was going to let any of the stateside "currency exchanges" rip me off for any amount of COP.).

So, if you don't mind me asking, what steps do you take to prevent theft? On my first (and only) visit I distributed my currency in three places: In an ordinary-looking leather belt with a secret stash pouch on the inside, some in my regular wallet, and the rest in a soft, neck wallet that I always tote abroad anyways, to keep my passport in. Luckily there were only brief minor detours in getting cash from ATMs, but I did bring enough to cover the minimum expenses for my stay. Without a safe in the hotel room, which is not a sure bet for security, I'd be nervous about carrying a few grand around. Advice for reducing risks or minimizing losses? I find myself thinking of Rob Schneider's stoner character on SNL, who was always contriving a "place to hide your weed".[/QUOTE]

I find this true to returning to US also. I have only been put thru extra customs check a couple of times and was just honest saying I go there to party and have a good time with the beautiful women, which is true and they appreciated the honesty instead of some bullshit.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1876314]Just be honest! Tell them Colombia has the most beautiful women and you are in love with their beautiful country! I got questioned by a Dominican customs woman about why I had so much baby oil and women's clothes. I told her the clothes were to get them to my room and the baby oil was for the sex after I got them there. She chuckled, waved me through, and said "thanks for being honest![/QUOTE]

I do similar to other replies. In Cartagena I feel less worried then in Medellin where I take more precautions because I often stay in places with no doorman / front desk guy. So there's a lot more chance of a problem.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1875862]Wow. Well I am glad to hear that I am not the only one who was paranoid about ATMs not working and carried cash instead. Your paygrade is a bit different from mine. I only carried a few hundred USD in case none of my cards worked (there was no way I was going to let any of the stateside "currency exchanges" rip me off for any amount of COP.).

So, if you don't mind me asking, what steps do you take to prevent theft? On my first (and only) visit I distributed my currency in three places: In an ordinary-looking leather belt with a secret stash pouch on the inside, some in my regular wallet, and the rest in a soft, neck wallet that I always tote abroad anyways, to keep my passport in. Luckily there were only brief minor detours in getting cash from ATMs, but I did bring enough to cover the minimum expenses for my stay. Without a safe in the hotel room, which is not a sure bet for security, I'd be nervous about carrying a few grand around. Advice for reducing risks or minimizing losses? I find myself thinking of Rob Schneider's stoner character on SNL, who was always contriving a "place to hide your weed".[/QUOTE]

Greetings,

Some friends and I will be in Medellin at the end of June and I have a few questions I couldn't find after reviewing reports:

Is there a "ground zero" neighborhood in Medellin that's central to all the mongering action? I know in Panama it's the Veneto, but how about here?

Generally speaking, does Hotel Security add a chica fee to your hotel bill? If so, what's the typical damage?

Do pharmacies provide items without prescriptions? I'm mostly talking Viagras or equal BTW.

Are tourists usually hounded with handouts, tourist trap scams, etc? In other words, will we be bombarded as we enter and exit hotels, bars, restaurants, etc? Just want an idea what to expect.

Is there any particular neighborhood or establishment that we should avoid at all costs? Usually every country has a least one or more spots that stand out amongst the rest as "stay out".

Lastly, how's the water and food quality generally speaking? I haven't read anything bad about either, but thought I'd ask people who visit often or live there.

Thank you all!

Last time or second to last time I visited Bogota (circa 2009), a Hooters' had opened in Zona Rosa. Is it still there? If so, any success landing any Hooters girls? I had a great time with a non-pro Hooters girl. I think she ended up leaving Colombia temporarily to help train at a new Hooters in Argentina.

Any assistance is appreciated!

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1881221]Last time or second to last time I visited Bogota (circa 2009), a Hooters' had opened in Zona Rosa. Is it still there? If so, any success landing any Hooters girls? I had a great time with a non-pro Hooters girl. I think she ended up leaving Colombia temporarily to help train at a new Hooters in Argentina.

Any assistance is appreciated![/QUOTE]It was still there 18 months ago. I just stopped in for one beer, but none of the girls working there were especially hot.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1875483]There is a Citibank office in Bogota (or was. Someone mentioned something about Citibank closing S. A. Offices), not sure what services besides ATM usage they might offer.[/QUOTE]Correct. Citi's pulling out of retail banking in Colombia and Brazil.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1881282]It was still there 18 months ago. I just stopped in for one beer, but none of the girls working there were especially hot.[/QUOTE]Agreed: their girls are like their food, uninspiring.

[QUOTE=TonyTigre;1879927]Greetings,

Some friends and I will be in Medellin at the end of June and I have a few questions I couldn't find after reviewing reports:

Is there a "ground zero" neighborhood in Medellin that's central to all the mongering action? I know in Panama it's the Veneto, but how about here?

Generally speaking, does Hotel Security add a chica fee to your hotel bill? If so, what's the typical damage?

Do pharmacies provide items without prescriptions? I'm mostly talking Viagras or equal BTW.

Are tourists usually hounded with handouts, tourist trap scams, etc? In other words, will we be bombarded as we enter and exit hotels, bars, restaurants, etc? Just want an idea what to expect.

Is there any particular neighborhood or establishment that we should avoid at all costs? Usually every country has a least one or more spots that stand out amongst the rest as "stay out".

Lastly, how's the water and food quality generally speaking? I haven't read anything bad about either, but thought I'd ask people who visit often or live there.

Thank you all![/QUOTE]I'll answer the questions that I have some knowledge of.

Medellin is not like many mongering cities. There is no place where the chicas are waiting for you to select them and take them to your hotel. Well, Mayorista is somewhat like that but generally the chicas are in the lower half of the grading scale. There are many casas (primarily daytime) in the downtown area that have a variety of chicas. Those are for in-house consumption. Some of the chicas will visit you during the hours they are not working at the casa. You need a session with them and discuss if they are available outside the casa. At night, there are strip clubs, but I have never been to one.

Usually, only the high-end hotels will add a chica fee, if they even allow chicas in your room. Some do not. Ask the hotel about their guest policy and any extra charges before making a reservation.

Almost all drugs are available without a prescription. The exception being any habit-forming drugs. Generic Viagra is very cheap. Less than fifty cents for a 50 MG pill.

There are very few hawkers handing out advertisements. In the downtown area, occasionally you will run into someone handing out business cards for a casa.

There are areas you should avoid, but I can't list them. Some of the local people have told me to avoid the area around the Prado metro stop. I know the areas that are safe and I stay in those areas. I have not encountered any problem walking in Poblado or Laureles, day or night; and in the downtown area during daylight. Always be aware of your surroundings and don't flash expensive items like jewelry, expensive watches, Iphones and Samsung Galaxys. The police there are your friends, treat them like a friend.

Generally speaking, the food and water are safe. I have had two bad experiences, one with water and one with food. Tap water is safe to drink. I should have known better the one bad experience with water. I checked into the apartment and there was very little water pressure. The manager of the apartment said there was a broken water line in the area. Without thinking, I filled a water pitcher and put it in the refrigerator. A day after drinking that water I had very bad stomach pains. Never vomited, but the pains lasted about a day and a half. The food, I am fairly sure was some chicken wings I ate at a restaurant in Laureles. They did not taste right. I think they were pre-cooked and then deep fried when ordered. Probably not refrigerated in between. For lunch, I eat traditional Colombian food and have never had a problem. The traditional food outside Parque Lleras is very cheap. About $3 for a complete lunch.

I have visited Medellin 21 times, almost 200 days there.

Sometimes art imitates life. If you are interested in enhancing your time in Colombia, it makes sense to understand the culture: what is important to these beautiful girls? I highly recommend a TV series of several years ago called. "Sin Senos no Hay Paraso. " "Without tits there is no paradise. " It's on Netflix.

In Spanish, of course, but with English subtitles.

Only good energy, amigos.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1882147]Sometimes art imitates life. If you are interested in enhancing your time in Colombia, it makes sense to understand the culture: what is important to these beautiful girls? I highly recommend a TV series of several years ago called. "Sin Senos no Hay Paraso. " "Without tits there is no paradise. " It's on Netflix.

In Spanish, of course, but with English subtitles.

Only good energy, amigos.[/QUOTE]I just watched episode 1. Good show! Lots of pretty girls with hot bods; must've all been cast in Medellin!

Last year while I was in Bogota I used my Debit card which had no chip in a Citibank ATM and was able to get cash up to $500 US. I am reading here the Citibank is closed or closing in Colombia. Has anyone used a debit card with no chip recently in any other bank? What other banks allow more cask withdraw like 800 k+ colombian peso? Thanks.

[QUOTE=LegalTender;1882147]Sometimes art imitates life. If you are interested in enhancing your time in Colombia, it makes sense to understand the culture: what is important to these beautiful girls? I highly recommend a TV series of several years ago called. "Sin Senos no Hay Paraso. " "Without tits there is no paradise. " It's on Netflix.

In Spanish, of course, but with English subtitles.

Only good energy, amigos.[/QUOTE]Saw episode one and wow. Those girls are something else. If I were a cannibal, those girls wouldn't make it to season two. Love the sexy school girl look.

There is a new video from VICE on YouTube about illegal gold mining and the effects of Mercury poisoning. It is very interesting as it shows stuff the men use to fight impotence, and shows the military blowing mining equipment up with C4 explosives. These are all in Antioquia, and even Medellin in mentioned. [URL]https://youtu.be/z_KAOD6IZmE[/URL].

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1881221]Last time or second to last time I visited Bogota (circa 2009), a Hooters' had opened in Zona Rosa. Is it still there? If so, any success landing any Hooters girls? I had a great time with a non-pro Hooters girl. I think she ended up leaving Colombia temporarily to help train at a new Hooters in Argentina.

Any assistance is appreciated![/QUOTE]I'm fairly sure it is still open. I have been there twice and might stop by in a few days. You would have to try to swap numbers with them. I am not too familiar with the Hooters in Bogota though. I am very familiar with the Hooters in Medellin. I have tried many many times to get their numbers and stuff. They said they aren't supposed to do that with customers. They get hit on many many times every day. But I have seen some guys go there and it was obvious the guy is a boyfriend of one of the girls. I have joked and asked a girl in Medellin so many times, but she just takes it as a joke now. Except one time I said she can come by to clean my apartment. They she asked me when. Then I had to tell her I don't have an apartment in Medellin. If I had my own apartment there I might have got my foot in the door. I heard rumors that a few of the girls will make extra money on the side. A taxi driver that was there said he has 2 girls there that he can arrange for me to have sex with. I just never followed though. He seemed to pushy. The girls in the Medellin Hooters usually for 6 days a week, and 10 or more hours a day and they will be lucky to make $500 USD a month. It would be nice to rent one of these girls for a weekend, and give her a full months pay.

[QUOTE=LarryDavid;1885017]Saw episode one and wow. Those girls are something else. If I were a cannibal, those girls wouldn't make it to season two. Love the sexy school girl look.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I have to admit, I've been watching since it was suggested on this thread. I'm on episode 22 of season 1. It's pretty good. A good insight into the motivations these girls have (beyond just implants). And yes, amazingly hot girls. I'm picking up a little lingo also!

I have a friend who is a native Spanish speaker but wants to learn the English language by taking private one on one lessons via Skype. Does anyone have any recommendations for teachers that teach at a beginners level?

Your kindness in helping my friend out is very appreciated!

[QUOTE=OldParr;1890924]I have a friend who is a native Spanish speaker but wants to learn the English language by taking private one on one lessons via Skype. Does anyone have any recommendations for teachers that teach at a beginners level?

Your kindness in helping my friend out is very appreciated![/QUOTE]Is your "friend" a hot chica? If so, I'll teach her a thing or two!

In Bogota, posted by independent escorts: the phrase "solo domicilio. " In the strictest term, I would read this as only a house or private dwelling appointment. Am I reading this too literal and would it include appointments to hotels? Once again, my apologies for the ignorance. First trip to Colombia and trying to understand the nuances.

Thanks for any help.

Wondering if buses still get intercepted, inspected, robbed enroute by bad actors? Obviously, many locals take buses from city / town to town, but how safe is it for a gringo? I thought it would be a nice way to see the countryside. Any info would be appreciated.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1891811]Wondering if buses still get intercepted, inspected, robbed enroute by bad actors? Obviously, many locals take buses from city / town to town, but how safe is it for a gringo? I thought it would be a nice way to see the countryside. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The one time I suggested either the bus or renting a car for some cross country driving, my Colombian friend gave me a definite "No!" She did describe one bus trip to me, when flight cancellations forced her to use the bus. She described it as 16 hours of pure hell.

[QUOTE=BurmaJones;1891790]In Bogota, posted by independent escorts: the phrase "solo domicilio. " In the strictest term, I would read this as only a house or private dwelling appointment. Am I reading this too literal and would it include appointments to hotels? Once again, my apologies for the ignorance. First trip to Colombia and trying to understand the nuances.

Thanks for any help.[/QUOTE]Think it means she doesn't have her own location. She needs to come to you. In other words, outcall.

For a restaurant, "Domicilios" or "A domocilio" means they deliver. I would guess it's the same idea with prepagos.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1891811]Wondering if buses still get intercepted, inspected, robbed enroute by bad actors? Obviously, many locals take buses from city / town to town, but how safe is it for a gringo? I thought it would be a nice way to see the countryside. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Have driven rental car Medellin south to Armenia -- on the toll road -- and driven through the cities. Perfectly safe, very scenic. Rented car at airport Pasto, drove around and south to near border Ecuador. Very nice countryside, truth fishing. West to Tumaco: no one recommended doing that.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1892198] Pasto, drove around and south to near border Ecuador. Very nice countryside, truth fishing. t.[/QUOTE]The fishing was for truta. The 'preview report' displayed truta, yet post appeared as 'truth'. Why does this have to happen? Anyway, with car you can get to some great places, micro-climate zones, plus offer rides to girls everywhere.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1891811]Wondering if buses still get intercepted, inspected, robbed enroute by bad actors? Obviously, many locals take buses from city / town to town, but how safe is it for a gringo? I thought it would be a nice way to see the countryside. Any info would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Depends greatly on what part of the country. I've done the bus that goes through the Zona Cafetera (Armenia, Manizales, Pereira) from Medellin to Cali. It's reasonably safe and it's a lovely trip. Stunning landscape.

OTOH as Golfinho pointed out the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.

[QUOTE=Combo;1892300]Depends greatly on what part of the country. I've done the bus that goes through the Zona Cafetera (Armenia, Manizales, Pereira) from Medellin to Cali. It's reasonably safe and it's a lovely trip. Stunning landscape.

OTOH as Golfinho pointed out the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.[/QUOTE]Yeah, that's sorta the area I was thinking of. Also looking at Bogota to Medellin or Medellin to Cartagena or Bogota to Cali.

Thanks for the insight!

[QUOTE=Combo;1892300]Depends greatly on what part of the country. the Western and Southern parts of the country are probably not so advisable. Still a fair amount of Guerrilla and Para-military activity.[/QUOTE]Driving around the deep south with a friend -- a biologist with the Univ. At Pasto -- she said that after a private school bus was stopped and everyone robbed, that afterwards for their annual excursion to the coast at Tumaco, they always rented the oldest, most beat up bus they could find and were invariably left alone. No one advised to go along the southern areas in vicinity Pacific Coast. Wonder what its like though -- would encourage someone to go for it. Arriving by air into Pasto, it's spectacular, even better than Bucamaranga.

Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in Colombian Pesos)?

-Electricity.

-Water.

-Gas.

-Groceries (family of 5).

-Childcare.

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-Milk (baby formula).

-Bus ticket (say, Round trip Medellin-Bogota).

-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).

-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.

-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1892715]I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?
Please feel free to add anything I missed!.[/QUOTE]Wonder if the chicas know the monthly pension of a generic 20-year gringo grunt -- as in insight into their negotiating.

[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1892715]Just wondering if anyone with insight knows what a working girl's true needs are. Specifically, can we get costs on the following bills from the barrios (in Colombian Pesos)?

-Electricity.
-Water.
-Gas.
-Groceries (family of 5).
-Childcare.
-Milk (baby formula).
-Bus ticket (say, Round trip Medellin-Bogota).
-Clinic checkup (OBGYN).
-Low cost hotel for visiting working girls.
-Hair salon appointment.

I just figured being armed with these figures will give a good insight on factors in negotiating. Any thoughts?

Please feel free to add anything I missed!

Rodeo.[/QUOTE]That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1893103]Wonder if the chicas know the monthly pension of a generic 20-year gringo grunt -- as in insight into their negotiating.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Good point. So what is the best job to say you have?

I've brought my own Colombian sex source with me a few times in the last couple years. Here are some results.

On my first try I was already in Cancun Mexico, early last year and I read that Colombians do not need a visa to go to Mexico. So bought this hot college girl from Medellin a round trip ticket. She made it to Cancun, but they refused here and a couple other Colombian girls entry, and they were sent back to Colombia. I have seen this myself a few times. It was last month I took a flight from Mexico City to Bogota and I happen to sit near two Colombian ladies. I asked how long were they in Mexico. They said they got to Mexico today. But. They were flying back to Bogota. They got denied entry.

OK, second try. In the middle of last year I brought a nice and young 19 year old from Santa Marta with me. She normally works in Cartagena. She is only 19 and I keep telling her she will be more sexy when she is about 22 - 25 years old, but she is already sexy. She doesn't believe my story though. OK, so I planned for us to go to Panama a couple days and then Cancun. Again. Since I was with her and we said we are boyfriend and girlfriend if needed, we made it in to Panama and then Mexico. But we got searched in Cancun. I know that damn red light, green light isn't random. We each got red lights, two in a row. But we made it.

Later last year I was already in Guatemala. I don't know why I paid for her to come see me in Guatemala for there were already many girls there. But, I wanted to drive around to several places over a week. So I brought her with me. Guatemala also says no visa needed for Colombians. But they were going to send this short 19 year old Colombian girl back. I already told her to tell immigration that I am in Guatemala and will take care of her. She was lucky because the immigration guys were nice enough to let her connect her phone to WiFi. She started chatting with me on Whatsapp, and said they won't let her enter the country. I told her to tell them I am at the airport, ask them to talk to me. Well. Surprisingly a man comes walking to me and asks me if I'm "my name" and I said yes, then he asks to see my passport. Then he looks at it and says OK. So, she he goes back and lets my lady friend through.

This month, I took the same girl, almost 20 now, to Aruba, then we will go to Panama. Since December of 2015 Colombians will no longer need to apply for a visa to Aruba, and that goes for Curacao and Bonaire and I think St Maarten. We left from Cartagena and they searched us for drugs, and made us sign a consent to an X-Ray. I was afraid they weren't going to let her leave Colombia for whatever dumb reason. Immigration was asking her all kinds of questions with a mean look on his face. But he let me out easy. Anyways, we had a layover in Panama with no issues, then we land in Aruba and the Dutch people and locals go to the right. Colombians along with "others" go in the middle. A lady asked to see passports and sent most people to the middle. There were quite a few Colombian couples. Well, I had an American Passport, and she gave me the VIP treatment and said I can go to the left. I said I was with the Colombian lady, then the immigration lady said she has to go to in the middle, so you can go with her. So, it it Dutch and locals to the right, most people in the middle and Americans can go to the left. I imagine other Western countries can go to the left also.

Anyways, the Aruban customs lady did not ask one damn question to my Colombian girl, then stamped her passport and and greeted her in Spanish. Well, the immigration officer didn't ask me any question either. I was thinking, wow that as easy. We got our luggage, and had my customs form ready. Well customs kept waving everyone through and didn't even ask to see our form. So, Aruba was extremely easy, almost too easy. But I'm sure bags have lots of extra screening after you drop off your suitcase and before you get your suitcase back.

Something might have changed. Last year these two women didn't have any cellphone service in other countries. This time the girl I am with has her phone working in different countries.

Others: I have personally seen women turned away from Panama. But as we know, lots of them make it. Also my lady friend has been to Peru a couple times and she said it was very easy for her. So you can bring your lady friend there.

Upcoming: I am very close to agreeing to taking a non-working girl hot enough to be a supermodel with me to Europe. I use to fuck her sister who used to work in LE Palace in Panama. I wanted to have sex with the younger sister but the younger sister doesn't do such things. The Older sister got married last year, and the younger sister finally says she will go somewhere with me. She is not a working lady, otherwise I'd show some pictures of her. Colombians are supposed to be able to go to most European countries (Schengen) now with no Visa. When I was in Medellin last week I sent messages to a Energy girl (Medellin), and she said she was in Paris. I know of some girls from the Dominican Republic, one of them was the most famous on a forum, it had over 100 pages about her, name Hennessy. Her and her sister went to Spain about 6 weeks ago and they are still there working in Barcelona. I imagine they choose Spain because those girls can't speak any other language. When I was in Medellin there was a magazine called Don Juan. On the cover the story was about a rush of Colombian prostitutes going to Spain.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1893237]I've brought my own Colombian sex source with meLater last year I was already in Guatemala. I don't know why I paid for her to come see me in Guatemala for there were already many girls there.This month, I took the same girl, almost 20 now, to Aruba, then we will go to Panama. Since December of 2015 Colombians will no longer need to apply for a visa to Aruba, and that goes for h.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info although seems pretty pointless to take one to Aruba, Bonaire, mexico, Guatemala, panama. Why not Europe, or some place where you can't find someone (cheap and easy) to have sex with you? BTW, Colombianas can get into Peru easy enough. Its so different for Brasiliera passport holders who get into some places (and with longer stay times) than US citizens.

[QUOTE=Queens35;1893167]That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.[/QUOTE]Nah, not the kid! It could help to make her think you might though!

Any red meat eaters in town. I was recommend this Brazilian Steak house and wondered if anyone has been there or would like to join me for lunch tomorrow and go over some mongering tails. Amarelo Rodizio is the name of the place. It is in Poblado you can google it.

Cheers

I thought I heard that Avianca doesn't charge for catching earlier standby flights if empty seats are available. Anyone able to verify this or clarify their policy?

Thanks!

It's also almost impossible to know these things. Costs of living in Colombia vary insanely depending on which city, neighborhood, estrato and household spending habits. And even the bus fares can double or triple depending on where you're going and when.

[QUOTE=Queens35;1893167]That looks like a list that a gringo who supports a chica want to know the answers to so that he knows how much she needs to send monthly. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Golfinho;1893242]Thanks for the info although seems pretty pointless to take one to Aruba, Bonaire, mexico, Guatemala, panama. Why not Europe, or some place where you can't find someone (cheap and easy) to have sex with you? BTW, Colombianas can get into Peru easy enough. Its so different for Brasiliera passport holders who get into some places (and with longer stay times) than US citizens.[/QUOTE]I think it depends on what you want. The girl I brought with me to Aruba, I gave her $30 for a taxi in Panama, and 100,000 Colombian pesos so she will get home OK in Colombia. That was for 5 full days. It a good thing she doesn't eat much because it is expensive to eat in Aruba. I drove all around Aruba, which isn't a good idea in the little car I rented, but I didn't have to do it by myself. In Mexico, yeah, lots of ladies, even in Cancun there is a place I like. But me and her went to 4 or 5 of the Mayan ruin places, and a few cities. But, yeah, there are working women all of Mexico, but I don't like the Mexico City scene. Also, yep, no reason to bring a girl to Panama, but in Panama the price keeps going up. I am going to take a non-working lady to Europe in a few days. Panama City to Barcelona was the cheapest way I could find to Europe round-trip. A good flight that won't have to do the US layover is only $547. I know some Dominican Republic girls that went to Barcelona, but I will probably only be able to say Hi to them. I never had sex with the girl I am taking, and I happened to see her and her mom today. Her mom approves of me. I think the lady I am bringing knows sex shall be incurred during our travels in Europe. I tried to get with her before but she had a boyfriend and her older sister that I was fucking said stay away from me. Now, older sister wants younger sister to dump her boyfriend that lives in Miami, and she knows (or thinks) I am a good guy. The mom (thinks) I am a good guy also. I just don't know how to let the younger sister not get heart broken or something when we return because I'm not going to hang around Panama when we get back.

[QUOTE=SkyJump;1893585]Any red meat eaters in town. I was recommend this Brazilian Steak house and wondered if anyone has been there or would like to join me for lunch tomorrow and go over some mongering tails. Amarelo Rodizio is the name of the place. It is in Poblado you can google it.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Had lunch at that restaurant before I left. It was excellent and the cost is $45 K lunch or dinner. One of the best meals I have had in Colombia and have spent and over of 8 months there.

Hello guys!

I coming for 1 month in Colombia and I would like to ask you a few practical things before. I am not very used to prostitutes, but I think I'll give it a try in Colombia.

About where to sleep (for a few days, not weeks in the same place).

I am looking for a good way to have a private cosy room where I could bring up girls day & night, which means.

- close to central places.

- OK to bring a guest.

- not that expensive.

I don't expect you to give me address and so on but just. Where should I look for?

I was thinking AirBnB would be a good solution to have a private room but I wonder about bringing girls. Any thoughts about it?

So what do you prefer? AirBnB, Hotel, something else?

About STDs:

- Is it OK to kiss a prostitute? Like french kiss? Do you avoid doing it because and herpes and stuff like this?

- Is it OK to do BBBJ with a prostitute?

About safety:

I am wondering about taking my 1000 $ reflex camera, and my 300 $ cellphone. I am kind of used to travel with them but I don't want to be robbed or stressed because I am afraid of it.

Thank you for your answers guys.

[QUOTE=MagicPeter2;1899875]Hello guys!

I coming for 1 month in Colombia and I would like to ask you a few practical things before. I am not very used to prostitutes, but I think I'll give it a try in Colombia.

About where to sleep (for a few days, not weeks in the same place).

I am looking for a good way to have a private cosy room where I could bring up girls day & night, which means.

- close to central places.

- OK to bring a guest.

- not that expensive.

I don't expect you to give me address and so on but just. Where should I look for?

I was thinking AirBnB would be a good solution to have a private room but I wonder about bringing girls. Any thoughts about it?

So what do you prefer? AirBnB, Hotel, something else?

About STDs:

- Is it OK to kiss a prostitute? Like french kiss? Do you avoid doing it because and herpes and stuff like this?

- Is it OK to do BBBJ with a prostitute?

About safety:

I am wondering about taking my 1000 $ reflex camera, and my 300 $ cellphone. I am kind of used to travel with them but I don't want to be robbed or stressed because I am afraid of it.

Thank you for your answers guys.[/QUOTE]MagicPeter, Are you sure you want to "try" a prostitute?

First off leave your $1,000. Camera and expensive cell phone either at home or locked in the safe at your hotel. DO NOT wear anything shinny, expensive or even cheap junk costume jewelry.

And please find yourself a partner, someone that knows Colombia, preferably one that speaks Espanol, not judging you but you are clueless as to the risks, they are real, that are out there. Remember that "you don't know what you don't know".

Please go back through and read a minimum of 50 pages of the reports, get educated.

The questions about STD are valid, this hobby comes with risks so pick carefully, think with the big head.

Some will kiss, some will kiss you so passionately as you will have never experienced in your life, but some will not.

I will lets others comment about hotel and such. Again go back through and read reports, this is the best advice I can give.

Most of all have fun but play safe and always be mindful of your surroundings and stay clear of drugs and heavy drinking.

TTM.

[QUOTE=MagicPeter2;1899875]I am looking for a good way to have a private cosy room where I could bring up girls day & night, which means.

- close to central places.

- OK to bring a guest.

- not that expensive.

I don't expect you to give me address and so on but just. Where should I look for?

I was thinking AirBnB would be a good solution to have a private room but I wonder about bringing girls. Any thoughts about it?

So what do you prefer? AirBnB, Hotel, something else?[/QUOTE]I have used Airbnb when searching for an apartment. My observations are:

1: Look at the guest policy in the listing. Many of the listings will say whether or not guests are allowed. Before making a reservation, I always send a message and tell them my plans with guests, and ask if those are allowed.

2: If the guest policy is not explained in the listing, look at the person making the listing. If it is someone who lives outside Colombia, or is a foreigner living in Colombia, they will usually allow guests. Many will have some restrictions on overnight guests. Almost all require you to be quiet. If the person is a Colombian living in Medellin, chances are they will not allow guests.

As to a preference, it depends on your lifestyle. If you want your room cleaned every day, and clean towels every day, stay in a hotel. I think it is more difficult to find a hotel that allows guests and doesn't charge a fee for them than it is to find a room. For me, a room in a private residence is not private enough. Because I like privacy, I always rent an apartment. I don't recommend that for a first time visitor.

Whatever your choice, look for a place in Poblado or Laureles, especially if you will be out at night.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1900045]MagicPeter, Are you sure you want to "try" a prostitute?

First off leave your $1,000. Camera and expensive cell phone either at home or locked in the safe at your hotel. DO NOT wear anything shinny, expensive or even cheap junk costume jewelry.

And please find yourself a partner, someone that knows Colombia, preferably one that speaks Espanol, not judging you but you are clueless as to the risks, they are real, that are out there. Remember that "you don't know what you don't know".

Please go back through and read a minimum of 50 pages of the reports, get educated.

The questions about STD are valid, this hobby comes with risks so pick carefully, think with the big head.

Some will kiss, some will kiss you so passionately as you will have never experienced in your life, but some will not..[/QUOTE]Thank you for your answer.

First, I speak a very OK Spanish, I've been used to travelling and I've read many pages of the forum.

Sure, you don't know what you don't know, but you need to have the most accurate sense of it before knowing it. Otherwise you don't do anything and never take you camera.

Actually, it's just that your answer seems a little bit more alarming from what I've read so far.

I may not take my camera but I m really wondering about my cell 'cause if I buy another one I'll certainly don't use it when I come back.

I know Colombia is not a "safe" place but how do you "feel it" as a traveler? I've been to Peru and Brazil and have heard a lot of alarming things too and it was OK.

Do all of you guys prefer buying a less-expensive cellphone?

And about STDs.

Again I am asking you! What do you do? Do you avoid kissing at all cost? Do you avoid BBBJ at all cost?

Hi guys,

Looking for some advice.

Last year spent 6 months in Jomtien, had a great time, but was thinking as I love South American women so much more then Asian that I should check it out, been to Brazil a few times for holidays. No way going for 6 months, with Ziko & the costs there that is out, Argentina, same thing, been for holiday but don't fancy it for 6 months. So that brings me to the home of the worlds most beautiful women, Colombia, I have read many pages of reports on Medellin & on Bogota, I am not a beach person so no problem with that, am looking for a good standard of apartment in a safe area, decent local transport options, and good nightlife venues. From what I can gather there is nothing like WS in Pattaya, which is fine, but the advice and info I am looking for is, which city has a higher amount of better clubs, where will I get a good apartment with a decent pool, rough cost please, and also any other advice for a first time long stay visitor to Colombia. BTW my Spanish is very limited, a few words not conversational.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1902579]Hi guys,

Looking for some advice.

Last year spent 6 months in Jomtien, had a great time, but was thinking as I love South American women so much more then Asian that I should check it out, been to Brazil a few times for holidays. No way going for 6 months, with Ziko & the costs there that is out, Argentina, same thing, been for holiday but don't fancy it for 6 months. So that brings me to the home of the worlds most beautiful women, Colombia, I have read many pages of reports on Medellin & on Bogota, I am not a beach person so no problem with that, am looking for a good standard of apartment in a safe area, decent local transport options, and good nightlife venues. From what I can gather there is nothing like WS in Pattaya, which is fine, but the advice and info I am looking for is, which city has a higher amount of better clubs, where will I get a good apartment with a decent pool, rough cost please, and also any other advice for a first time long stay visitor to Colombia. BTW my Spanish is very limited, a few words not conversational.

Thank you.[/QUOTE]I can only speak for Bogota, so I'll share my little knowledge.

According to the last census population is 8 million, according to the people who live there, 11-12 million. It's a reasonably compact city, rather than a sprawling metropolis, think NYC, not LOS Angeles. It's located about 8500' above sea level, which gives it a mild climate. Daytime Temps in the 70's, nighttime in the high 40's. Humidity is usually low. Because of the mild temperatures, most apartments and hotels don't have air conditioning or heating, they don't need it. Mid afternoon, even after a long walk, my room was comfortable. If you get out of bed at 5 am it might be a bit chilly, but by 8 am it will be fine.

The average local attire runs from business casual to business formal. You won't see anyone in shorts and t-shirts are not common. The exception is during Ciclovia. Polo shirts, good jeans or slacks and a light jacket are pretty standard attire.

The better parts of the city are to the north, Usaquen, Santa Barbara, Parque 93 are a few of the better areas. For a long-term rental you can probably find a place for under $900/ month USD. If you're staying for 6 months, I'd recommend finding something for 2 weeks, then find a long-term place.

Transportation system is good. The main bus routes have dedicated lanes, so traffic jams aren't a problem. Cost is 1700 pesos, 1300 off-peak. There are smaller buses which run on the main streets. The fare gets you into the bus stop on the main routes. You can ride, transfer and change buses as often as you want for the one fare. During rush hour the buses are packed, not full, jam packed, can't move a muscle, there is no way anyone else can fit. Either wait for another bus, they come along every few minutes, or follow behind a good looking girl. When the buses aren't packed, there's occasional live entertainment, singing, guitar playing, they work the buses for tips.

The food is excellent. There are plenty of US franchises if you get homesick. You can even find a Starbucks, unless you would rather get better coffee at half the price at Juan Valdez, locations everywhere. The tap water is safe to drink and tastes fine, you won't need to keep a supply of bottled water. Most restaurants have open or outside seating, because of the altitude, bugs aren't a problem. Restaurant bills include a 10% propina (tip). It's optional, you won't need to leave an extra tip.

Bogota businesses are grouped together. You'll see 3 blocks where almost every business is a bicycle store, or a hardware store, or a pet supplies store. It's a little confusing.

Ciclovia- Every Sunday morning they shut down a lot of the main roads to cars and open them up for bikes, skateboards, roller skates, or however else you want to exercise. If you have a thing for hot women in yoga pants on bicycles, that's the time for it. You might consider buying a bike.

The main red light district is known as Santa Fe. It's located between the downtown / government / cultural center and Chapinero. Plenty of strip clubs, casas and street walkers to be found there. There are also a few other areas with p4 p options. Santa Fe is not particularly safe late night.

There are lots of museums, galleries and other cultural attractions, most located in the same area. There are also quite a few nearby attractions worth a visit. There should be plenty to keep you entertained. There are also schools to improve your Spanish. If you're going to be in Colombia for 6 months, you'll need more than just a few words of Spanish.

Regular nightclubs are mostly concentrated around Zona Rosa and Parque 93. Both are reasonably safe areas with plenty of shopping and dining options.

There's nothing like Walking Street. If you want Walking Street you should go to Pattaya.

Jjbee62,

Thank you very much for you very informative reply, very much appreciated. I am surprised by the temperatures you mentioned, I was not thinking of the elevation. I do enjoy relaxing in a pool, but it would need to be a lot hotter then you mentioned. But thanks again. Looks like I will be back to Jomtien LOL.

[QUOTE=Dasisextra;1903002]Jjbee62,

Thank you very much for you very informative reply, very much appreciated. I am surprised by the temperatures you mentioned, I was not thinking of the elevation. I do enjoy relaxing in a pool, but it would need to be a lot hotter then you mentioned. But thanks again. Looks like I will be back to Jomtien LOL.[/QUOTE]Medellin is at a lower elevation, about 5000', which should bring the temperatures up to something a little more comfortable for poolside. Daytime in Bogota would be okay, but not at night.

Hi all,

I'm coming to Colombia November. I'm doing 3,cities Bogota, Barq, Med. So it's my first time and could do withe some pointers.

I'm 41 I travel a lot I've done Thailand several times D. R also. I only booked Colombia because a female friend said you should go. So here it is. If never really used pros that much. I'm staying in high end hotels and hope to wing it as I go. Spanish is poor I'm currently learning. Love reading your comments I love Latin women and hope you guys can help me out with some advice.

Thanks.

Most guys that think they didn't use pros did. Most women are pros. What are you traveling for? You mentioned three Places.

Known for prostitution. How long are you staying? What are you looking to do? What advice are you looking for maybe I can help you.

[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1908258]Hi all,

I'm coming to Colombia November. I'm doing 3,cities Bogota, Barq, Med. So it's my first time and could do withe some pointers.

I'm 41 I travel a lot I've done Thailand several times D. R also. I only booked Colombia because a female friend said you should go. So here it is. If never really used pros that much. I'm staying in high end hotels and hope to wing it as I go. Spanish is poor I'm currently learning. Love reading your comments I love Latin women and hope you guys can help me out with some advice.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=YouCan;1908375]Most guys that think they didn't use pros did. Most women are pros. What are you traveling for? You mentioned three Places.

Known for prostitution. How long are you staying? What are you looking to do? What advice are you looking for maybe I can help you.[/QUOTE]Yes this is true. Basically I want to meet cute girls go to nice restaurants and party. I'm only there for 2 weeks so if it's good I'll return. I spent a lot of time in DR visiting friends and they said get your ass to Barranquilla it's warm and a lot of cute girls looking for the gringo. So I booked a 3 city vacation. I've joined CC but my Spanish is still raw. The downside about DR is daytime. I like to make most of the day. Barq I can go on beach maybe. Bogota is just for 3 days after I arrive there. And the one that I am really looking forward to is Med. I got a great deal on the best hotel. So I have to get my head down and learn the native tongue.

[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1908612]Yes this is true. Basically I want to meet cute girls go to nice restaurants and party. I'm only there for 2 weeks so if it's good I'll return. I spent a lot of time in DR visiting friends and they said get your ass to Barranquilla it's warm and a lot of cute girls looking for the gringo. So I booked a 3 city vacation. I've joined CC but my Spanish is still raw. The downside about DR is daytime. I like to make most of the day. Barq I can go on beach maybe. Bogota is just for 3 days after I arrive there. And the one that I am really looking forward to is Med. I got a great deal on the best hotel. So I have to get my head down and learn the native tongue.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for nice restaurants and nice clubs in Bogota you probably should be looking around either Zona Rosa or Parque 93. Decent hotels in both areas, or pick a hotel between the two, which puts both in walking distance.

It's good you are going to Bogota first. You'll have a few days to adjust to the altitude before going to Medellin.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1908945]It's good you are going to Bogota first. You'll have a few days to adjust to the altitude before going to Medellin.[/QUOTE]Well, no. It would be much better from that perspective to go to the lower city first and acclimate, then go to the higher city.

Earlier I wrote about taking Colombian girls to places like Mexico, Panama, Guatemala, and Aruba.

This time I took a non-working Colombian girl to Europe. I used to fuck her sister who used to work at LE Palace in Panama, but she got married. She finally gave her younger sister the go ahead to be with me. She works in Panama, but she definitely isn't a working girl, so we left from Panama. I found the cheapest way to get to Europe was Panama to Barcelona. I seen round trip tickets for $557, but I went with some $602 tickets because of better times and a shorter layover.

It was no problem for her to leave Panama, because she has a permit to work and live there and has a ID card for Panama. Some ignorant a-hole with Iberia airlines asked me when will I leave Panama when I return from Barcelona. I was thinking, WTF? This ignorant fucker. The other guys there seemed to be like don't worry about that, but he kept insisting on a ticket departing Panama. Well, I didn't have one. I float around the globe as I wish, usually with 1 way tickets, and it bites me in the ass once in awhile. I spent like 5 minutes on my phone and bought a ticket to Medellin, round trip, which was cheaper. They let me just hang out near the counter. When I said I have a ticket, I saw a lady, and she was helping me, and the ignorant fucker tells her to come talk to him. Seems like I was already given the go ahead to go on my flight. I just bought a ticket, and they didn't ask to see it, or anything about it. I was thinking about cancelling the flight, but going to Medellin seems good to me. Way better than Panama.

OK, so about her. We arrive in Madrid first. Immigration was actually quite easy. I made sure it was known we are traveling together and I am taking care of her. The only question he really asked was how much money do I have with me. He was happy that I have enough to take care of ourselves and let us pass. Customs was easy also. We enjoyed Barcelona. It is a good thing she knew she had to give me sex. We had sex after we ate dinner and got back to the room. But, I have to say she acts like she only has had 1 or 2 boyfriends her whole life. Not too exiting. But I got someone to take pictures of me when I want, LOL. I actually did not have tickets to other places. I just went with the flow. I know I wasn't going to be able to go screw hookers, but I wanted to see some places that I always wanted to see. We went to Paris, Prague, Amsterdam, Geneva, Rome, and back to Barcelona. There is no need to do any immigration or anything again after entering Europe the first time. So, you can take your Colombian beauty with you to Europe very easy. I just had to tell mine to stop saying gracias unless we were in Spain. I didn't give her 1 dollar or Balboa or peso when we returned and she never asked me to buy her any souvenirs, which is a good thing. I think I would have been much happier with a girl that had some experience though. In other words, a hooker would have been more fun, but probably would have asked for money, and ask me to buy things. A trade off I guess.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1908976]Well, no. It would be much better from that perspective to go to the lower city first and acclimate, then go to the higher city.[/QUOTE]I was wondering what he was talking about. When I go to Bogota the altitude usually gets to me for 2 days. In Medellin maybe half a day at most and I am OK with the altitude. Things such as ED drugs actually help with that. When I felt bad in Bogota a few times or Quito, I would take Cialis just to make me feel better.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1908976]Well, no. It would be much better from that perspective to go to the lower city first and acclimate, then go to the higher city.[/QUOTE]Not if he's spending most of his trip in Medellin and Medellin is the spot he's most looking forward to.

[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1908612]Yes this is true. Basically I want to meet cute girls go to nice restaurants and party. I'm only there for 2 weeks so if it's good I'll return. I spent a lot of time in DR visiting friends and they said get your ass to Barranquilla it's warm and a lot of cute girls looking for the gringo. So I booked a 3 city vacation. I've joined CC but my Spanish is still raw. The downside about DR is daytime. I like to make most of the day. Barq I can go on beach maybe. Bogota is just for 3 days after I arrive there. And the one that I am really looking forward to is Med. I got a great deal on the best hotel. So I have to get my head down and learn the native tongue.[/QUOTE]Your Spanish needs to be good to get around Barranquilla. You can find enough gringos in Medellin and Bogota but a little Spanish goes a long way there too.

On a 2 week vacation, you will be with hookers. They will hang around restaurants and clubs with you but guess what? They are working.

Does anyone have a line on contacting any available Colombian Porn Stars?

Such as:

Esperanza Gomez.

Paola Shumager.

Galiea.

Cielo.

Rianna.

Yoha Gálvez.

Johanna Gonzalez.

Jodi Bean.

Andrea Rincon.

Isabel Rincon.

Feel free to PM.

Thanks,

Rodeo.

Looking for a little help from those who have flown Avianca often. My understanding is that upgrades on Avianca are done via a highest bidder process. I'm curious as to what price range (on top of the fare) are those winning bids usually? Feel free to PM!

Thanks,

Rodeo

I'm now a member! My bank are hot on security so declined my payment. So I coming November first time to Colombia. Can't wait to make my own reports. Any ideas how to find hook ups on FB? I'm on CC but they are not up for it now they now I don't land for 3 months. 3 night in bog then I'm unsure. I booked flight to barq but been told it's quite. So maybe strait to med. Or cart.

[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1917912]I'm now a member! My bank are hot on security so declined my payment. So I coming November first time to Colombia. Can't wait to make my own reports. Any ideas how to find hook ups on FB? I'm on CC but they are not up for it now they now I don't land for 3 months. 3 night in bog then I'm unsure. I booked flight to barq but been told it's quite. So maybe strait to med. Or cart.[/QUOTE]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.

Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.

Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.

I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1918541]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.

Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.

Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.

I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.[/QUOTE]I agree with Soldierb. Cartagena is definitely worth visiting at least once. It's a interesting place to see from a tourist perspective, a unique city. However, 3-4 days is probably sufficient.

[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1918541]I am in Cartagena now and its not the same scene as 2009. My recommendations before would have been for you to hit Medellin for a majority of the days and then maybe 3 days of Cartagena because it is an amazing city and has decent chica options. I would now rank my favorite Colombian cities to monger in (after 30+ trips) Is Medellin, Bogota, Cali and then Cartagena. Bogota is growing on me while Cartagena is slipping for me.

Bogota just has sooo many different options (because it is a huge city) Santa Fe, the higher end brothels, lots of escorts services and it seems to me 90% of the girls I find online through CC or SA are from Bogota.

Cartagena is dropping because LDV is not the same as it was years ago, the talent level is dropping, the prices rising and the service is not as sweet IMO. Clock tower girls are really hit or miss and I just paid a girl 250 for ST there a night ago and in Bogota or mde that is about a normal TLN price.

I forgot how many days you have but I would do something like this 3 days Bogota, 6 days Medellin, 2-3 Cartagena and then back to Bogota for a couple days before you fly home.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys I will go after Bogata. I booked a flight to Barq so I'll just keep it and catch a bus or cab down to cart. Any recommendations on good hotels?

[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1918713]Thanks guys I will go after Bogata. I booked a flight to Barq so I'll just keep it and catch a bus or cab down to cart. Any recommendations on good hotels?[/QUOTE]I usually stay in an apartment. Many of the nice hotels are not very chica friendly. So if you plan on bringing 3-4 girls up a night then grab an apartment. Most of the times these days I bring one up per night so I book room for two people and she registers at front desk as my girl friend. This has worked at the Hilton, the Hampton Inn and the Hotel Caribe. But parading a girl in front of everyone at the Hilton or Caribe would depend on what she is wearing. If she looks classy I have had no problems registering her. I wouldn't take a girl in an obvious hooker outfit to either of those places. Just take her to a nearby motel and fuck her and then go back to the nice pools at either of those places and chill alone.

Hello gentlemen,

I need some help. I would like to travel to Colombia and it will be my first time. Any advice where I should go to live (hotel) and start (city) at as a newbie? I've been to Rio and Sosua.

The Mansion is perfect for newbies.

[URL]http://hotelmedellinplaza.com/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Gzilla;1928523]Hello gentlemen,

I need some help. I would like to travel to Colombia and it will be my first time. Any advice where I should go to live (hotel) and start (city) at as a newbie? I've been to Rio and Sosua.[/QUOTE]

This post is the first installment of my serialized reporting on my first trip to Colombia in late August and early September 2016. This first installment provides an overview of my trip and a comparison of my experiences in Medellin (MDE) and Cartagena (CTG). I will follow up with topical installments (instead of the usual chronological format) in the appropriate MDE and CTG sections, respectively.

Colombia had long been on my agenda due to experiences with Colombians in the US, which played a key role in the development of my taste for Latinas. I decided, however, to get my feet wet in Costa Rica (CR) and the Dominican Republic (DR) first when I read about the more challenging environment in Colombia, for which I would be better prepared with more experience under my belt. The lessons that I learned in CR and the DR and the improvements in my Spanish served me well in Colombia.

I had a two-week window for my trip. MDE was my top priority due to its well-deserved reputation for abundant hotties, its top-notch mongering scene, and the advantages of staying at the Mansion as a Colombia newbie. I figured that a week in MDE would suffice, leaving me wondering what to do with my remaining week. I decided on CTG, given its combination of a substantial mongering scene, an appealing Old City, and a range of non-mongering activities there. I chose to visit MDE first and CTG second because I figured that my manhood would be worn out and I would be low on leche after a week in MDE. I planned on mongering less in CTG because there were more non-mongering things that I wanted to do there and because my research on the CTG mongering scene suggested that it would be less appealing and rewarding for me than that of MDE.

Overall, I had a fantastic time and I plan to return to Colombia in the future. I found that Colombia's reputation for fine women is well-deserved; the chicas there were significantly hotter than those of CR and the DR. With that said, the specific body type that had initially attracted me to Colombians in the US tall & thick with big tits & ass was less pervasive than I had thought it would be, especially at the Mansion, where gringo tastes must have fostered a shorter and skinnier demographic than I would have preferred. The demographic at the two main CTG strip clubs (ISIS and Pleyclub) was the closest fit for my personal taste in body types, which seems to be closer to that of Colombians than that of my fellow gringo mongers. In CTG I was usually competing not with other gringos but with Colombians, who were often much quicker on the draw than me.

I found Colombian full service to be even more intense than I had anticipated; in my opinion, they significantly outperformed Costa Ricans and somewhat outperformed Dominicans in this area. These chicas clearly knew how to make effective use of their lower bodies in often remarkable ways. In several cases, the full service was so intense that I felt like I was doing a wild animal or a wild animal was doing me. In fact, one of my main criticisms was that some of the chicas were too rough for my taste, and I had to ask a few of them to slow down and soften up.

The quality of Colombian blowjobs was more inconsistent, from fantastic to nearly non-existent. I got a greater sense in Colombia than I did in CR and the DR that some chicas preferred to focus on full service and keep the blowjobs to a minimum, and that many chicas were reluctant to provide a blowjob finish due to fears of leche in their mouths. I also found that thinner chicas often gave better blowjobs and seemed more into it, whereas the more voluptuous chicas tended to focus more on full service.

One of the perennial frustrations of this hobby for me and other mongers has been that the hotter chicas are often weaker performers. In other words, they are often starfishes in bed and think that you will leche just by looking at them and putting your manhood inside them. This problem never surfaced for me in Colombia, as it did occasionally in CR and the DR. In fact, I found the opposite to be true: the hotter Colombian chicas were usually stronger performers than the less attractive (but still cute) ones. I am curious as to whether or not other mongers have had similar experiences in Colombia, as this experience may prompt me to revise my selection of chicas in future visits to Colombia.

MDE was simply fantastic from a mongering perspective and was by far my best overseas mongering experience yet. I plan to return to MDE repeatedly in the future. The downside of MDE is that it is low on non-mongering sights and activities that interest me; I need something to do when I am not actively mongering, if only in order to give my body time to recharge for the next session. I would have little or no reason to visit MDE if it were not a top-notch mongering destination.

I had lower expectations for the CTG mongering scene, but it was even less enjoyable for me than I had expected. I had a higher proportion of mediocre and negative experiences in CTG than I did in MDE, the DR, and CR; only Amsterdam yielded a higher proportion of such experiences. I did nonetheless have some great times with a handful of gems that I found in CTG just enough to outweigh the negative and mediocre experiences and my general distaste for the CTG mongering scene. CTG is, however, a more interesting city to visit than MDE and had more fulfilling non-mongering activities. In my case, scuba diving and exploring the Old City. Having crossed those non-mongering activities off my list and decided that the CTG mongering scene is not for me, I see no reason to return there. I did have a good time overall, though, and I am still glad that I went there once.

In my opinion, the MDE mongering scene wins hands down over that of CTG for the attractiveness of its chicas, the quality of their service, and the lower cost of obtaining those services (in terms of time, money, energy, risk, and hassle).

I had high expectations for the beauty of paisa women, and the women that I saw in MDE both chicas and the general population. Exceeded even those high expectations. I found the women in CTG both chicas and the general population less attractive than those in MDE, with the significant exception of CTG's two main strip clubs (Isis and Pleyclub). It was probably not a coincidence that the chicas in CTG that I found most attractive were frequently from MDE.

I found that the quality of service was consistently higher in MDE. I did not have a single negative or mediocre experience with any of the Mansion / Facebook chicas there, and my only two weak sessions there were in cheap Centro casas (you get what you pay for). In contrast, the quality of service that I received in CTG varied considerably, from fantastic to terrible, regardless of price or venue. In fact, two of my worst sessions there were also the most expensive, and one of my best sessions there was also the cheapest one.

A pet peeve of mine was the pervasiveness of CBJ in CTG; a slight majority of chicas there flatly refused BBBJ, and many of the minority that offered BBBJ charged extra for it. In contrast, I only encountered CBJ in MDE in two of my three cheap casa sessions that were also weak in other ways. I got the impression from the regular Mansion mongers and my own sessions and interviews at the Mansion that BBBJ was typical (but not universal) for Mansion / Facebook chicas.

MDE mongering was not only cheaper but yielded better value for my money, time, energy, and patience than CTG. For example, 300 K COP can get you a TLN with a hot Mansion chica (say 8 or 9) and GFE, BBBJ, etc. In contrast, some of the less attractive CTG chicas at the Clock Tower or La Dolce Vita (an average of 7 or 8) wanted 300 K COP for an hour, often without GFE, BBBJ, etc.

Finding suitable chicas was much more convenient in MDE, especially at the Mansion, where one can just walk downstairs to the pool or La Cueva or "order in" from Facebook. The concentration of so many casas so close to each other in Centro greatly facilitates casa runs there.

In contrast, the key CTG mongering venues are more geographically dispersed, and it sometimes took hours of searching at multiple venues for me to find a suitable chica. Exploring the CTG scene also imposes more overhead logistical costs beyond the cost of an actual session, I. E. Cab rides, drink minimums, cover charges, multas / salidas, etc. On a given night, these logistical costs could reach or exceed 150 K COP a typical rate for one hour with a Mansion chica. And you might not have even gotten laid yet! Many of the main CTG venues also do not start up until late at night, which can be a problem if you are not a night person or you want to wake up early to do other things during the day. My most consistently positive results in CTG came from a virtual venue: Tinder, to which I resorted when the traditional physical venues did not yield the results for which I had hoped.

The biggest differences for me, though, were in the respective atmospheres of each city's mongering scene and the attitudes and behaviors of their respective chicas. The MDE Mansion / Facebook chicas were always friendly and persistent in seeking business, but not pushy or aggressive. They were very well-behaved, and I experienced almost no drama or misbehavior with them a welcome contrast to CR, the DR, and CTG. The worst thing that any of them did to me was to have me buy her a drink and then walk off with it instead of keeping me company as she drank it. The level of camaraderie among the Mansion mongers was also an integral factor in my enjoyment of MDE and a welcome contrast to the relative isolation that I experienced as a solo monger in CR, the DR, and CTG. Some of the Mansion regulars went out of their way to show me the ropes as a MDE newbie, and we exchanged useful tips and feedback about the chicas that we saw or wanted to see.

The single worst feature of CTG for me was in the behaviors and attitudes of its chicas. They often displayed a brusque business-like impatience and a tendency to rush into a deal that made it hard or impossible for me to interview them to my satisfaction and set the right tone for a good session. Even more frustrating, once I did decide to bring an independent CTG chica to my apartment, was that so many of them asked for payment up front, which I always refused. One chica also tried to pull the "I meant dollars, not pesos" scam. I had to abort three sessions because of these issues, prompting one of these chicas to threaten to call the police. Such issues also detracted from two other sessions.

My two cents: perhaps MDE remains a top-notch mongering destination in part because there are fewer other reasons for gringos to go there, leaving the field open to dedicated mongers. In contrast, perhaps the large scale of non-mongering tourism in CTG has corrupted the local mongering scene by encouraging chicas to take advantage of mainstream tourists who do not know any better.

The presence, absence, and character of mongering institutions in each city are also factors. I suspect that the Mansion / Facebook chicas were so well-behaved and provided such good service in part because they wanted to maintain their reputations in this smaller, more closely-knit community and did not want to risk their access to the critical Mansion client base. (I wonder how those same chicas would have acted if I had met them through other means or in another setting). At the Mansion, I almost felt like I was part of a family or a close circle of friends.

In contrast, CTG left me with the sense that I was on my own in the Wild West, and there was no monger-friendly institution to keep the chicas in line and discourage bad behavior or poor performance for example, even something as simple as the Del Rey keeping out known troublemakers. Indeed, one of CTG's key mongering institutions, La Dolce Vita, evidently colludes with chicas to hustle mongers into buying them overpriced drinks. Perhaps what CTG could use is its own Mansion, Cocal, Del Rey, or New Garden. The lack of a major chica-friendly mongering hotel in CTG (unless you are Israeli and can get into Casa Benjamin) is not only a logistical issue but may also impede the development of a sense of community by driving and isolating mongers into their individual apartments.

So here are some questions with which I hope to initiate a fruitful discussion.

MDE regulars what non-mongering activities keep you busy in MDE when you are not either engaged in a session or searching for your next one? What do you do when you need to take time off to give your manhood a break and rebuild your supply of leche?

CTG regulars why does CTG appeal to you as a mongering destination, instead of or in addition to MDE? Why go to CTG when the mongering in MDE is (in my opinion) so much better? Is it the setting and appeal of the city of CTG itself and its non-mongering activities?

[QUOTE=GringoItaliano;1938303]This post is the first installment of my serialized reporting on my first trip to Colombia in late August and early September 2016. This first installment provides an overview of my trip and a comparison of my experiences in Medellin (MDE) and Cartagena (CTG). I will follow up with topical installments (instead of the usual chronological format) in the appropriate MDE and CTG sections, respectively.

Colombia had long been on my agenda due to experiences with Colombians in the US, which played a key role in the development of my taste for Latinas. I decided, however, to get my feet wet in Costa Rica (CR) and the Dominican Republic (DR) first when I read about the more challenging environment in Colombia, for which I would be better prepared with more experience under my belt. The lessons that I learned in CR and the DR and the improvements in my Spanish served me well in Colombia.

I had a two-week window for my trip. MDE was my top priority due to its well-deserved reputation for abundant hotties, its top-notch mongering scene, and the advantages of staying at the Mansion as a Colombia newbie. I figured that a week in MDE would suffice, leaving me wondering what to do with my remaining week. I decided on CTG, given its combination of a substantial mongering scene, an appealing Old City, and a range of non-mongering activities there. I chose to visit MDE first and CTG second because I figured that my manhood would be worn out and I would be low on leche after a week in MDE..[/QUOTE]First off what a great summarized detailed post, cannot wait to see more of the details of your exact spots and mongering experiences within each of the cities thread. Anyways I am no veteran or expert unlike some users here that claim they have been mongering in Colombia for decades, and I cannot compare the mongering environment of Medellin to anything else like you since I have not traveled anywhere else in the world for that hobby. As a Matter of fact the first time I went to Medellin I did not go at all for that intention, I went with my paisa friend that invited me to go there and visit his family with him and he is the one that introduced me to that environment, I was reluctant at first of course because I am super young and thought paying for sex was the stupidest waste of money ever but seeing how stunningly attractive Colombianas were and how fucking cheap it was to fuck them, cheaper than a what typical date costs me here in the states with my GF I was like literally "fuck it" LOL he was like my "Mansion" experience, thus I have never step foot in the mansion either. Either way with MDE within these two years I have made 10 trips, very affordable for me to fly there since I am in FL and as you noticed mongering, eating, lodging etc etc is super cheap with our heavier currency. I read and saw information here about each city, and with Cartagena I have no idea what mongering scene is there as I have never traveled there, I imagined it was kindly non existent and when I see the thread here in ISG and see how much less detailed it is with less activities and it is generally a more expensive sexual trip than in MDE I decided from that I would never go there to get Pussy LOL. Now Bogota seems to be a good mongering environment, I am going to go there for the first time in a few days and it looks like there a ton more options when it comes to pussy and it is a bigger city and more to do.

Now to answer your question:

[B]MDE regulars what non-mongering activities keep you busy in MDE when you are not either engaged in a session or searching for your next one? What do you do when you need to take time off to give your manhood a break and rebuild your supply of leche?[/B]

I have not made a solo mongering trip ever to Medellin, I usually enjoy peoples company whether it be my paisa friend for mongering or I either go for a non-mongering trip and stay over there with my non-pro Girlfriend over there. I did however came to find a lot of things to entertain myself over there, again I go for short period of times (5 day or 1 week vacations max) so it is hard for me to get bored, but in each trip out of ritual I always go up the rail and go to Parque Arby, I enjoy the natural view of the sky rail, ride a chiva, ride a bike in the mountains enjoy the natural scenery, so that takes my whole day right there honestly. I do also enjoy Soccer a lot so thanks to a close friend I made over there he introduced me to a few indoor soccer venues and street pick up spots, its an activity I can do between my recharges, also I can always relax in a nice bar in Parque Lleras or a cantina in el centro having a few beers talk to the locals and make new friends and shit. I am not Colombian, but I am of Mexican descent so with my Spanish I always try my best to expand my social circle, whether it be to meet more chicas, have friends to play soccer or any other activity I like, so at this point for me its really hard for me to get bored there because when I go there is always someone I know that has something interesting to do or to show me or someone I can always hang out with even if I traveled alone and even if I had no GF there, otherwise I can just hang with my GF there. If you do get yourself a chica or a semipro that will be happy to spend time with you then I highly recommend you travel up to San Jeronimo and bathe in some nice spring like swimming pools with your nice chica with the breathtaking view of the city getting turned up and lit with some aguila or aguardiente and smoking some "good shit", perhaps even rent a finca, trust me it is impossible to get bored there at all!

I will go to Bogota and then I will do a trip comparison like how you did with MDE vs CTG.

Hey guys,

Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali. For my sins, I seem to have got myself my very own puta Colombian here in Spain. (Be warned! The perils of mongering. The advantage is supposed to be. They go home. Remember this important detail! They don't move in & take over your life.) Now we have flights booked in February. Go see the family.

So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?

Any info would be welcome.

[QUOTE=AndalusExpat;1939304]Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali.
So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?

Any info would be welcome.[/QUOTE]Don't do it. Took a bus (or maybe it was a van, but I am sure we got it at the bus station) there once with one of my girls to go to her cousin's funeral. We were only there for the service and went back to Cali after. You will be bored out of your mind. Never go home with chicks. Let them do that on their own. You will be the odd man out.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1940610]Don't do it. Took a bus (or maybe it was a van, but I am sure we got it at the bus station) there once with one of my girls to go to her cousin's funeral. We were only there for the service and went back to Cali after. You will be bored out of your mind...[/QUOTE]I hadn't intended visiting a funeral. Particularly my own.

As you can see on the Map it is in between Cali and Pereira. I looks like a very small town.

[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1SEYbTvsoWZwmfJ2cDxAyXGiWUak[/URL]

[QUOTE=AndalusExpat;1939304]Hey guys,

Anyone give me a go-to on Tulua in the Valle del Cuaca. It's somewhere near Cali. For my sins, I seem to have got myself my very own puta Colombian here in Spain. (Be warned! The perils of mongering. The advantage is supposed to be. They go home. Remember this important detail! They don't move in & take over your life.) Now we have flights booked in February. Go see the family.

So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?

Any info would be welcome.[/QUOTE]

Yeah. I looked it over on street view. I'm actually staying at a place called Aguaclara. Barrio to the north. The Googlemobile seems to have passed through a couple streets. Apparently they own no cars. Only vehicles are motorcycles & horse & buggy. Quite encouraging, really. At least the locals aren't employed in knocking their wheels from the city, unlike some London suburbs I try & avoid. And kingpins in the international drug trade would probably run to BMWs, not Dobbin.

[QUOTE=AndalusExpat;1939304]So am I headed into the back yard of the Cali Coke Cartels, or what? Are there bears? Can you get a decent beer?
[/QUOTE]I passed through Tulua once driving in a car between Cali and Pereira (10 years ago). Pretty easy drive, decent highway, no security issues whatsoever. Plenty of policia and militares posted along the highway occasionally, a couple of no-hassle checkpoints. I felt secure. I hung out in Cartago a bit, which looks similar to Tulua. Very sleepy, quiet place, I. E. , boring. I find Aguila and Club Colombia beers satisfactory.

Surprised it hasn't come up. But FYI will be watching closely today's peace vote with the FARC.

[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1944471]Surprised it hasn't come up. But FYI will be watching closely today's peace vote with the FARC.[/QUOTE]Gimmedub,

I've been avoiding posting here because of the petty snipes and put-downs if you suggest you are paying 5 k COP more than some other person, and I'm not going to delve into a whole political analysis. But in brief, the status quo (which won) is probably not so good for the country in general in the long run, but benefits us mongers.

For the rich and middle class, there's not much upside to the deal. For the poor it's a different story. No deal = no peace = less foreign investment & economic development = continued poverty and inequality.

I really doubt there will be a re-negotiation. It took way too many years to get to this point. They are not going to start the process again and hack away at it for another 2-3 years.

So that means the war continues. The deal sucked for sure, but it's naive (foolish even) to think a better deal could be had. It's also naive to think Uribe or his proteges can totally stamp out the FARC; they'll go deep underground, lash out from time to time, but they'll always be there in the background, getting what they can from the trafficking and kidnapping and "protection" biz.

Apologies if I sound too cynical or politically incorrect. Status quo means an ever refreshing supply of young girls for the hooker scene.

Call me evil, but I was actually starting to worry that a peace deal would spark an economic "renaissance" in the country which would mean less girls getting into the pay-for-play biz. It's kind of funny, but I actually felt a twinge of guilt that the country has (barely) chosen to stick with the status quo; instead of letting go of the past, they are still stuck in it. As I said, it does probably benefit us, and apologies again if that sounds a bit cynical.

[QUOTE=Phunluv;1944823]Gimmedub,

I've been avoiding posting here because of the petty snipes and put-downs if you suggest you are paying 5 k COP more than some other person, and I'm not going to delve into a whole political analysis. But in brief, the status quo (which won) is probably not so good for the country in general in the long run, but benefits us mongers.

For the rich and middle class, there's not much upside to the deal. For the poor it's a different story. No deal = no peace = less foreign investment & economic development = continued poverty and inequality.

I really doubt there will be a re-negotiation. It took way too many years to get to this point. They are not going to start the process again and hack away at it for another 2-3 years.

So that means the war continues. The deal sucked for sure, but it's naive (foolish even) to think a better deal could be had. It's also naive to think Uribe or his proteges can totally stamp out the FARC; they'll go deep underground, lash out from time to time, but they'll always be there in the background, getting what they can from the trafficking and kidnapping and "protection" biz.

Apologies if I sound too cynical or politically incorrect. Status quo means an ever refreshing supply of young girls for the hooker scene.

Call me evil, but I was actually starting to worry that a peace deal would spark an economic "renaissance" in the country which would mean less girls getting into the pay-for-play biz. It's kind of funny, but I actually felt a twinge of guilt that the country has (barely) chosen to stick with the status quo; instead of letting go of the past, they are still stuck in it. As I said, it does probably benefit us, and apologies again if that sounds a bit cynical.[/QUOTE]I too have followed the vote and have had many discussions with my Colombian friends about this. Sad but true and the status quo will continue and the up side is that the dollars to peso exchange can only get better.

TTM.

[QUOTE=TheTallMan;1945082]Sad but true and the status quo will continue and the up side is that the dollars to peso exchange can only get better.

TTM.[/QUOTE]Correct sir, the peso took a hit today so now is the time to buy pesos if you can.

If anyone cares, I did an experimental transaction at a Citibank machine on October 6. I withdrew 1,200,000 pesos and the the conversion was done at 2927. I may have been able to withdraw a larger amount, just not sure. The girl at the bank told me that each USA Bank has its own arrangement with Citi about limits. I am BofA in the USA The ATM charge was $5.00. I will be using CapOne soon. No extra charges after local ATM fee. (yes I know about Charles Schwab).

Dear gents,

I'm a experienced Asia visitor and know my way around there. But I like to give Central / South America a chance as well.

I don't speak Spanish, I would love to monger and do some sightseeing in cities. I tend to make a combination visit to Colombia and Cuba but I'm open to any other suggestions.

I would appreciate some help here what countries / places to visit.

Important for me: easy to find the freelancers? Affordable prices?

Thank you so much in advance.

[QUOTE=AsianHeat;1947226]Dear gents,

I'm a experienced Asia visitor and know my way around there. But I like to give Central / South America a chance as well.

I don't speak Spanish, I would love to monger and do some sightseeing in cities. I tend to make a combination visit to Colombia and Cuba but I'm open to any other suggestions.

I would appreciate some help here what countries / places to visit.

Important for me: easy to find the freelancers? Affordable prices?

Thank you so much in advance.[/QUOTE]If I did not speak Spanish (I do), and wanted to go to Latin America for the first time to monger and sight-see, I would go to Costa Rica. But the cities are not where the good sight-seeing is; however, it's a small country and many beautiful sight-seeing trips can be made from San José. I would say that the only Latin American country where less English is spoken than in Colombia would be Paraguay, or maybe Bolivia. Colombia is also more dangerous than most mongering destinations. If you want even more English than in Costa Rica, you could go to Panamá. It's fucken hot there, but if you are okay with Asia, I would guess heat doesn't bother you too much. Colombia would be cheaper but almost every bar in Costa Rica has a few free-lancers coming and going. Flights to Colombia tend to be expensive as compared to Costa Rica or Panamá, so it would take some time to make up the airfare difference with the cheaper hookers, like probably at least a week. Don't know where you are based, but right now a good deal is to fly to Central America through Toronto.

Hi,

I will be going to Medellin in a week. I like to get the help of anyone there. Mansion decided to not let me in and wanted me to stay there. I don't want to leave it up to the girl to show me around. These were friends from my buddy who when 1 year ago. Please PM me. I'd like get some help there.

[QUOTE=Dickhead;1947354]If I did not speak Spanish (I do), and wanted to go to Latin America for the first time to monger and sight-see, I would go to Costa Rica. [/QUOTE]Thanks for this excellent info Dickhead (I don't feel comfortable calling you this after I send you my appreciation).

Somehow Colombia attracts me more then most other countries in Central / South America, but if speaking Spanish is highly, very highly recommended I better let this idea go for now and consider your option.

Still thinking of a combination Medellin / Panama / San Jose but I need to look into that.

Thanks again for your info, its appreciated.

The other significant difference in Colombia as opposed to the other countries you mention is there is way, way more silicone (or whatever they use these days), both in tits and ass. If you like that, great, but if you don't, you might be kind of surprised. Pussy is somewhat cheaper in Colombia, though. However, some of that difference will go away without Spanish.

It was recommended to me that premium, brand named alcohol is pretty expensive in Medellin. Does anyone know how many bottles one can get via Duty Free coming into the country?

[QUOTE=Thedman;1956747]It was recommended to me that premium, brand named alcohol is pretty expensive in Medellin. Does anyone know how many bottles one can get via Duty Free coming into the country?[/QUOTE]Not sure, but the premises is faulty. For example, in the liqure store on the entry floor at Oviedo, the Single Malt Scotch selection is actually very reasonable. Yes, I am comparing it to Seattle, were costs are high, but still cheaper in Medellin for me.

[QUOTE=Psychman;1957535]Not sure, but the premises is faulty. For example, in the liqure store on the entry floor at Oviedo, the Single Malt Scotch selection is actually very reasonble. Yes, I am comparing it to Seattle, were costs are high, but still cheaper in Medellin for me.[/QUOTE]Thanks Psychman. I too coming from Seattle area and with the state taxes you're right, our stuff is crazy expensive.

Air travel within Colombia is almost too cheap to pass up. Point to point flights between most of the major cities are 50 k pesos or less, although you need to have a little flexibility to get the cheapest rate.

If you're flying into Colombia, pick the cheapest destination. Chances are you will save a lot of money.

Example:

IND to CLO round trip is $872.

IND to MDE round trip is $838.

IND to CTG round trip is $706.

IND to BOG round trip is $699.

BOG to CLO round trip is $69,900 pesos.

BOG TO MDE round trip is $99,900 pesos.

That's $25 to $33 round trip and most flights are only an hour or so.

The cheapest fares are on Viva Colombia, which also flies to Miami (one way, Miami to Bogota, leaving at 11:20 am tomorrow for $72.40).

[URL]http://www.vivacolombia.co[/URL]

On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]IMHO, in Colombia, weather your 35 or 75, shave it.

TTM.

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]As a general rule, most chicks don't want to get a mouthful of your pubic hair. I have found I have received better blowjobs from both working girls and plain Jane girls, since I trimmed. And I use the word trim, specifically. I don't think they are expecting you to have little boy crotch, just because most of them are shaved and have a little girl crotch, now.

And here is another perk. Your cock might be bigger than you think, once you get the pubes trimmed back. I thought my dick was getting smaller as I got older. What I wasn't paying attention to the was the fact that my pubes were getting longer and thicker, just like the hair up my nostrils and on the back of my ears. It has been said that as you lose hair on your head, it starts to pop up where you don't want it. Anyways, I trimmed mine back with a personal groomer and voila. My dick seemed to be its old self (almost). Turns out it had been obscured by the overgrowth of pubic hair. I should have paid more attention when my ex-wife was complaining that she didn't like to suck my cock anymore, because she didn't like the hair in her mouth. I didn't recall her having a problem with going down on me, only hours after we first met in Budapest. So, just think of it as trimming the hedges. Just that it is a lot easier, and a lot more fun (or at least a lot less grief). That goes for your scrotum and "taint" as well. I never got a good cat bath down between my legs until I trimmed it good. And if you want to know who gave it to me, check out my review of Anita on the Berlin forum.

I disagree. My body; except my the top of my head, has lots of hair and the Chicas have never complained in any of the 72 countries I have been in. Some said they even liked it.

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1960858]I disagree. My body; except my the top of my head, has lots of hair and the Chicas have never complained in any of the 72 countries I have been in. Some said they even liked it.[/QUOTE]Perhaps they said this because you were paying them, just saying it's possible. I agree with Tall Man but you don't need to shave it all off, neatly trimmed with a #1 spacer has worked well for me.

[QUOTE=Thedman;1956747]It was recommended to me that premium, brand named alcohol is pretty expensive in Medellin. Does anyone know how many bottles one can get via Duty Free coming into the country?[/QUOTE]I am from NY and the prices are pretty comparable.

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]I have have never heard that complaint although I either shave or trim it.

Your standard "nothing out of the ordinary" must be different than most people!

[QUOTE=JjBee62;1958920]Air travel within Colombia is almost too cheap to pass up. Point to point flights between most of the major cities are 50 k pesos or less, although you need to have a little flexibility to get the cheapest rate.

If you're flying into Colombia, pick the cheapest destination. Chances are you will save a lot of money.

Example:

IND to CLO round trip is $872.

IND to MDE round trip is $838.

IND to CTG round trip is $706.

IND to BOG round trip is $699.

BOG to CLO round trip is $69,900 pesos.

BOG TO MDE round trip is $99,900 pesos.

That's $25 to $33 round trip and most flights are only an hour or so.

The cheapest fares are on Viva Colombia, which also flies to Miami (one way, Miami to Bogota, leaving at 11:20 am tomorrow for $72.40).

[URL]http://www.vivacolombia.co[/URL][/QUOTE]That is how I always do it. It also give you an excuse to stay in the city that you land a couple of days to change things up.

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]I am surprised to hear that. I know Asian WGs are picky about that, but Colombian girls? Many of them are not shaved. I would suggest you buy a groomer and groom down there once a week. If you shave it completely, you would have to deal with the stubles. Girls will complain about that more.

[QUOTE=Cheerfull;1960669]On my last trip to MDE last summer, more than one chica complained about my pubic hair (I don't have that much, nothing out of the ordinary). One chica even offered to shave me! Another refused service, she said it was gross. Several gals stated Colombian guys always shave down there. I guess I'm old school; in my day and age guys never shaved down there; is this common now for guys to shave their pubic hair in USA and Colombia? Planning another trip in Dec. Thanks![/QUOTE]I recommend Veet chemical hair remover or a similar brand. Always test a small amount on your skin first and follow the instructions. I usually use an antiobiotic cream like polysporin after to heal any burns you may get. You may get burned occasionally so do this a week before your trip.

I've never shaved anywhere lower than my face and I've never had a girl comment. Maybe it's because I'm no more hairy than average, except on my head, where I do get comments.

My issue is that I like girls with natural hair, but I've never found one in Colombia yet. Except for one, but she was regular and never in business, and of the bohemian kind.

A few years ago, some girls were unshaved in Ecuador (Guayaquil, calle 18), but I guess that may have changed because of the global influence of internet porn where shaving is apparently the obligatory dress code. Anyone with recent experience in Ecuador?

So, where in the world can a guy still find girls with hair?

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1960880]but Colombian girls? Many of them are not shaved. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Arcangel;1960900]I've never shaved anywhere lower than my face and I've never had a girl comment. Maybe it's because I'm no more hairy than average, except on my head, where I do get comments.

My issue is that I like girls with natural hair, but I've never found one in Colombia yet. Except for one, but she was regular and never in business, and of the bohemian kind.

A few years ago, some girls were unshaved in Ecuador (Guayaquil, calle 18), but I guess that may have changed because of the global influence of internet porn where shaving is apparently the obligatory dress code. Anyone with recent experience in Ecuador?

So, where in the world can a guy still find girls with hair?[/QUOTE]I was in Lima a couple years ago and ran into two that I remember very well had a full muff of pussy hair. I didn't like it at all. When I was young, I had no problem with lots of pubic hair, but I think I've become accustomed to freshly trimmed snatch.

[QUOTE=Arcangel;1960900]I've never shaved anywhere lower than my face and I've never had a girl comment. Maybe it's because I'm no more hairy than average, except on my head, where I do get comments.

My issue is that I like girls with natural hair, but I've never found one in Colombia yet. Except for one, but she was regular and never in business, and of the bohemian kind.

A few years ago, some girls were unshaved in Ecuador (Guayaquil, calle 18), but I guess that may have changed because of the global influence of internet porn where shaving is apparently the obligatory dress code. Anyone with recent experience in Ecuador?

So, where in the world can a guy still find girls with hair?[/QUOTE]Asia. Lots of girls with arm pit hair and pubic hair. I personally find it disgusting.

[QUOTE=Lefeu;1960880]I am surprised to hear that. I know Asian WGs are picky about that, but Colombian girls? Many of them are not shaved. I would suggest you buy a groomer and groom down there once a week. If you shave it completely, you would have to deal with the stubles. Girls will complain about that more.[/QUOTE]Colombian girls not shaved? I think 95% are. In fact, I can't remember the last Colombian chick I was with that was not shaved!

I didn't really know much about this, but I did just seen someone on the Cartagena report about this. I'm in Panama at the moment and seen a young Colombiana that I know very, very well. I don't need to pay her for the first time that we meet if it has been awhile. I gave her $20 to cover taxis for an overnight last night. She's getting more and more lazy though.

Anyways, she normally works in Cartagena. She started at LDV, then moved on to Tinder in Cartagena. Now she hasn't been working in Cartagena much anymore because she said there are too many Venezuelan ladies in Cartagena and they are accepting much lower prices. She said sometimes the police go around looking to send them out of the country.

On my last night in Medellin, 13 November it was another dumb holiday and the usual places were closed, so I tried online for my first time in Colombia. Of the two girls that wrote back, one of them told me she was from Venezuela. The other girl might have been also, but she didn't say it. So I have to say there is a big trend of Venezuelan ladies coming in to Colombia. It is funny to see they have driven out some Colombian ladies from Cartagena. I have to say I fucked a Venezuelan lady in one of casas in Cartagena last year also. And in Suriname, if anyone goes there, there is a club that used to be quite mixed with various ladies. Now it is almost all Venezuelan ladies. Hmm. I see them flooding Curacao also. I guess if you and your family is going hungry, they need to get the hell out of Venezuela to make some money. Hmmm. Now that I think about it, I seen quite a few Venezuelan ladies in Quito, Ecuador just recently.

Viva the revolucion.

[QUOTE=Gagoo;1963286]Now she hasn't been working in Cartagena much anymore because she said there are too many Venezuelan ladies in Cartagena and they are accepting much lower prices.[/QUOTE]That is funny. In the Boca Chica Dominican Republic thread they are talking about the Venezuelans charging more than the Dominicans and Haitians, but in Cartegena they are undercutting the Colombians. But I guess in Colombia they pretty much look the same as the Colombians so they need a leg up, whereas in the Dominican Republic they may be seen as a novelty.

If anybody cares: On November 17 I withdrew 2,000,000 pesos at the Citibank ATM and the conversion was done at 3099 pesos / dollar. Citibank charges a flat add on fee of $5. 00 US. Next month I will pick up my new TD BANK online account card. Like the Schwab card the international fees will be rebated at the end of the month and there will be NO conversion charges. (Bank of America charged me approx. $17.00 for the previously mentioned transaction.).

Nothing in world beats Bogota!

I have a friend down in Bogota, he is having a blast. Just found the live poker game at Luckia's.

Nothing in world beats Bogota!

Has anyone tried using a prepaid travel cash card like Travelex Master Card in Colombia? Do they work in Colombia to withdraw money in COP from ATMs? The Travelex MasterCard have chips. I believe the Visa Prepaid cards do not have chips. Or does anyone know of any other prepaid cash cards that can be used in Colombia? This card is to avoid bringing too much cash in hand while travelling and not using your regular bank ATM cards for security purposes. I know people have mentioned about Citibank and Charles Schwab on this forum. But wondering if anyone has tried using a prepaid card.

Thanks for your response.

I am planning on staying in Medellin for about a month. Is there a way I can get high speed internet access so I can conduct business from there? Any suggestions? I have read that Colombia has good internet so I am hoping it will all work out.

I've been looking through Bogota. [URL]backpage.com[/URL] and several spas have the address as Location: Bogota, galleries.

Any insight to where that is?

I'm coming to Bogota a week from Tues and very excited!

[QUOTE=MarkGarden;2000899]I've been looking through Bogota. [URL]backpage.com[/URL] and several spas have the address as Location: Bogota, galleries.

Any insight to where that is?

I'm coming to Bogota a week from Tues and very excited![/QUOTE]Las Galerias is a shopping and nightlife district west of Chapinero. The southeast corner of the area is at Carrera 25 and Calle 53. There are a few massage parlors in the area, the one with all the ads, Attraction Spa doesn't seem to have any good reviews.

There are several decent cheap hotels in the area.

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From an earlier discussion on the subject, here is a typical webcam model response to the escort question.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2019949]From an earlier discussion on the subject, here is a typical webcam model response to the escort question.[/QUOTE]Well, I hope your response was, "So you are not a real puta? You are just pretending to be a puta?

I hate it when women who work in the sex industry act like they are not "sex workers". The hypocrisy is sickening. I once dated a woman who said she worked as a stripper at a "Gentlemen's Club" to put herself through college. She got offended when I suggested she had actually worked in the sex industry.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2019965]Well, I hope your response was, "So you are not a real puta? You are just pretending to be a puta?

I hate it when women who work in the sex industry act like they are not "sex workers". The hypocrisy is sickening. I once dated a woman who said she worked as a stripper at a "Gentlemen's Club" to put herself through college. She got offended when I suggested she had actually worked in the sex industry.[/QUOTE]I bet that attitude works wonders for you. Some people see a difference, others just see every woman as a puta. Which must make for an interesting Mother's Day.

No. I would never call a woman a puta, except under extreme circumstances. I believe every woman has the right to set her own boundaries. I would refer to the guy who assumed she was a puta, an asshole, but that's just me.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2020165]I bet that attitude works wonders for you. Some people see a difference, others just see every woman as a puta. Which must make for an interesting Mother's Day.

No. I would never call a woman a puta, except under extreme circumstances. I believe every woman has the right to set her own boundaries. I would refer to the guy who assumed she was a puta, an asshole, but that's just me.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more, first time I was in Brazil I went with a wingman. We were way out of the tourist track in a smaller city when we sat down to have some food and some beer. Then out of the dark came to stunners and sat down next to us, and it didn't take long time before they smiled at us when they saw our look to their side. We went over to their table after finishing the food and asked if they wanted something to drink. After the obligatory small talk my wingman said (since I spoke Portuguese) ask if they are putas I denied but after he insisted long enough I agreed to do it and the response was as expected. But the point is, it changed the good vibes for a while and it's not worth doing it (and also it is to disrespect them).

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2019965]Well, I hope your response was, "So you are not a real puta? You are just pretending to be a puta?

I hate it when women who work in the sex industry act like they are not "sex workers".[/QUOTE]Well in this case you would have to hate when men in the sex industry act like they are not sex workers seeing that the example was about a transvestite.

[QUOTE=Chicobarca;2020213]After the obligatory small talk my wingman said (since I spoke Portuguese) ask if they are putas I denied but after he insisted long enough I agreed to do it and the response was as expected. But the point is, it changed the good vibes for a while and it's not worth doing it (and also it is to disrespect them).[/QUOTE]How is it disrespecting a hooker by asking if she is a hooker? She already knows she is a hooker. Why is it best if the guy is kept in the dark about it? Better for both parties to know up front. The disrespect would come after when she expects money and the guy that fucked her says what do you mean money? I do not have any money. I did not know you were a hooker. I just thought you were a normal chick out for fun.

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2020256]Well in this case you would have to hate when men in the sex industry act like they are not sex workers seeing that the example was about a transvestite.[/QUOTE]I can guarantee that the example did not involve a transvestite. The partial attached picture was from the guy who figured camgirl = prepago. The girl in question is definitely all female.

[QUOTE=JjBee62;2020822]I can guarantee that the example did not involve a transvestite. The partial attached picture was from the guy who figured camgirl = prepago. The girl in question is definitely all female.[/QUOTE]I was not going on the picture, but on the line where he wrote: "I really know how to please sexy Tgirl like you."

[QUOTE=MrEnternational;2020872]I was not going on the picture, but on the line where he wrote: "I really know how to please sexy Tgirl like you. ".[/QUOTE]I assume it was a typo. That one is most definitely all female. Just had lunch with her today.

According to [URL]numbeo.com[/URL], both Santo Domingo vs. Medellin and DR vs. Colombia, are Santo Domingo and DR in a kind, average calculation 50% more expensive.

The countries have the same population-pyramid, GNP / capita, income distribution, minimum-wage, etc.

Colombia have it own industries, while I think the answer to why DR is so much more expensive is that they have to import everything, and only export agricultural products.

Colombia are expensive, the more advanced the product are. So if DR even does not have assembly plants for electronics, cars, homeware etc. It explains the difference.

I have lived in Colombia in long periods since 2006/09. I have never been to DR, I simply read here on the forum in periods, and got the conclusion that girls are way cheaper in DR, and "all seem available".

As a member on Dominican Cupid or Latineuro, especially the Cupid-Dominicanas, from age 18 (went to attack, and many really pretty ones responded.

Old veteran Ricker says they are little like asian people, does not respect your personal sphere, which they really do in Medellin.

But I got to know a few really hot girls, who didn't mind sending sexually explit photos. Katerine, she was 18-19, an 8-9, a pure 10 if you are into +18 girls, made skypeshows, on her own initiative. One memorable was when she was preparing to go to college and did a show in her little shool-dress. She wanted to get married, for life, and have children ASAP. Her sister, a taller model-type, 20-yo, was already married- and pregnant with- to a very good looking man in his 50-60th. And she came from a family, what can be considered DR: s middle-class.

Ricker, after have done the whole globe, finds the north east Brazilian girls to be the most autentic sweet hearts. Relaxed, with an aura of tranquility around the person, often with a smile, and helpful, not asking for anything in return. Brazil can become victim for the same thing that happend to Argentina 2002. I don't think it will happen, since foreign investor in Latin America goes to Brazil or Mexico, while the self-proclaimed superior portenos get 3% of Foreign Direct Investment.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2023760]I have lived in Colombia in long periods since 2006/09. I have never been to DR, I simply read here on the forum in periods, and got the conclusion that girls are way cheaper in DR, and "all seem available".[/QUOTE]You have the wrong conclusion partially. Organized prostitution is much bigger in Colombia so you will find a wide range of prices. There are nowhere near as many sex venues in DR. The cheapest place that I know of there is in the capital and costs 72 KCOP for 1 girl for 1 hour or 120 KCOP for 2 girls for 1 hour. Most other places that I label clip joints are going to want 240 KCOP for 1 girl for 1 hour. If you pick up a street walker in the capital she is going to want at least 90 KCOP for a short time. Last week when I was in a beach town freelance chicks were telling me 171 KCOP for short time and 285 KCOP for all night. And mind you I am not talking what I would consider high quality chicks. 99% of them sport fake hair which I can not get past.

Flip side about DR is you may be driving in the middle of nowhere and see a chick waiting for a bus or thumbing a ride. You can pick her up and give her a ride and stop by a love motel and fuck her.

Although DR has a couple of fairly big cities, the country is not as sophisticated or refined as Colombia. The country pretty much has a rural air to it with a large majority of the population uneducated and speaking a type of Spanish that you may be hard pressed to figure out. For instance most of the country pronounces (and writes in most cases) facebook as fayboo. Many will also say and write Western Union as Wester Junior.

[QUOTE=CJackSparrow;2023760]Old veteran Ricker says they are little like asian people, does not respect your personal sphere, which they really do in Medellin.[/QUOTE]I live in Asia and have no idea what this means. People in Asia mind there own business more than people anywhere else on the planet.