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I know the topic has been touched on over time, but any fresh recommendations for good legitimate massage (no happy ending necessary) in Bogota? I am not looking for the likes of the spa at JW, by the way (given the price).
Thanks in advance for any advice.
Haven't been to SA for a while and just plain forgot how beautiful and sexi Colombians are. Bogota may not be top of the line as Medellin, but I'm not complaining.
So to satisfy a curiosity, I decided to visit Mezzanines, the full service massage place in northern Bogota (Calle 104 #15 03: that means corner of Carrera 15). Super easy to find. Just go to the Hotel Dann Carlton and then go to the building on the kitty corner (no pun intended). Mezzanines is a bunch of massage offices, 4-5 in all, and the ones in the front of the building can be seen from the outside. In fact, you just walk up the outside stairs on the corner of the building (not some seedy indoor stairway, quite refreshing), which leads you right in front of a corner grocery store. You can go right to see the offices in the the front or go left to get to the offices in the back, it is one long rectangular pathway on the 2nd floor.
I went left, peeked into the first and none of the ladies there struck me. But in the second one, Vanessa was sitting right in the doorway and bingo, something clicked. She was very pretty, 7-8 on my scale, blonde highlighted hair and fair skin, not flacca, but more of a very sexy athletic body. She he bolt-ONS but her fantastic nalgas seemed very real. If spanish didn't come out of her mouth, you could easily see her as midwestern cheerleader.
She was a doll. The rooms are very small. This is definitely not a high scale operation. She covered the massage table with a blanket and gave me a mediocre massage, followed by a boobie rub and CBJ. But she really had to work for her money. As I get older, the pops take longer, but this is good. She allowed kissing and seemed to enjoy herself after a while. After numerous positions where she provided much of the energy & movement, she finally finished me off in a cross masturbation effort. I gave her a nice tip, she was really sweating for all the effort, very much earned it.
If you go to places like these with the appropriate expectations, and find a pretty girl who really aims to please and has talents, then it's a successful venture indeed!
[QUOTE=AtLuvHerSoGud;1700796]Hey guys,
I'm back in Bogot & hooked up with a working girl from Medelln who traveled to hang with me these 2 weeks. I meet her in Paisas in the Santa Fe district, so yesterday after I finally got settled in I went to see her and we went over to Paisas. I thought we were just going to check the scene & get a drink, but apparently her agenda was to meet up with some friends and go dancing.
While I waited around for her to find her friends, though, there were 3 chicas on the catwalk strutting their stuff, apparently billed at a "trio de Venezolanas," and one in particular was smoking hot. Tall, perfect body, pretty face, nice tits & ass. Whew! If my novia gets a headache, I'm going to have to go see if she's still around.
Anyway after a bit she pulls me away from my slobber fest and we jump over to this dance club called Toni-K in the Galeras neighborhood. It was her friend's birthday, so she asked if I would pay their cover & buy the first bottle. I agreed, and fortunately she talked the doorman into only posting for us 3 guys. We got a table upstairs near the DJ booth, and in front of it were 2 scantily clad gogo dancers who were just total "brick houses!" Not young, but kinda muscular but with curves in all the right places & great tits plus pretty faces. The place was loaded with couples & groups, but watching those 2 dancers shake & shimmy & twerk was amazing.
Hey, so I may really want to get back to Santa Fe at some point without my chica, in case anyone wants to meet up, particularly in the afternoons. This week may be slow because of Easter holidays here, but perhaps next week? (Reply back on here if you're interested. I'm not registered so can't message me privately.).[/QUOTE]Hi AtLuvHerSoGud,
Of course I am up to no-good at Santa Fe, this weekend? Just let me know, As well I cannot message privately! But would be great to meet!
Shizzle
There is so much on this thread it's difficult to digest.
Would like to go to Bogota but not sure about logistics.
My thinking is to partake in street puta but not sure what area and where to stay.
I read that Sante fe has the girls but not sure about safety. I know not go out after dark.
If this is the place, what hotel is accessible and secure.
Also, is it possible to get any Asians in Columbia.
Here goes, some new places, some repeated, hope this helps some of you in your hunting:
1) Aba Sensity Spa. Calle 78 and 13 A 20.
Normal fee and services. Fee 180 k / 60 minutes / massage / covered oral / multiple positions intercourse / one pop / no GFE.
Extras: did not ask.
Provider selected: Fernanda.
Was interesting in getting a decent massage and some play, cruised around ads and Sensity Spa looked promising. Headed that way and was greeted by Fernanda, nice facilities, she explained to me the fee structure (do not recall the details, but selecte the 60 minutes for 180 K), she then proceeded to introduce the other 3 ladies (all seemed in their early 30's, except Fernanda in her early 20's.).
Picked Fernanda, very pretty girl, beautiful face and nice hair, nice body. Told her I wanted a good massage, she told me she would do it. Disrobed, got on the massage bed face down and she started her "massage" (more a body rub) with clothes on, asked me to flipped, rubbed my chest and legs, the she started massaging Jr. At this point I asked her to remove her clothes, "all of them?" She asked (duhhh) yes I told her and she complied. By this point I was at attention, told her she get on top. Nice view of this beautiful girl riding me, after a few minutes I told her to get of and stand against the table and bend over. Entered her standing doggy, we had a full size mirror on the wall in front of us, fucked her hard, great view of her ass being pounded and her pretty face on the mirror and hearing her soft moans, nice. Nutted, afterwards she offered me the sauna, which I accepted, 15 minutes in the sauna (alone), took a shower, got dressed and left.
Worth it? It was only because I fucked a very pretty girl. Would I go back? Doubt it.
2) The Mezzanines location #8, carrera 17 with calle 103 NW corner of intersection, second floor.
Normal Fee: 90 k for 60 minutes, massage / covered oral / multiple position intercourse / one pop / no GFE.
Extras: negotiated 50 k additional "for everything" (GFE).
Provider selected: Valeria.
Went to the mezzanine #8 looking for an old friend, was greeted by Valeria and she was one of two girls that day but the other one was busy, Valeria is an attractive girl probably in her upper 20's, little thick, not the type of girl I would had selected in a typical line up but I said what the heck.
Got to the room (little space) disrobed and got on the massage table face down, Valeria started her massage, another body rub but better than Fernanda's. She would stop every once in a while, and figured she was disrobing. She then climbed on my back and started rubbing her tits all over my back, flipped over and she continue the rub down, and started with oral, I asked for oral without the cover and she told me it would be 80 K, told her too much, then she said it would be 50 k for everything (ok I agreed. She removed the cover and started a fair BBBJ, she then turn around and asked if I wanted to 69, hell yeah, started eating each other, she seemed to enjoy it, at some point I started to lick her ass and then toying with her asshole, no objections from her, after a good while she climbed on Jr. And rode me good, kissing and licking her nipples til completion. J.
Worth it?, yes to me.
Would I return?, we agreed to meet outside the place but could not line up our schedules, have her number and staying in contact (whatsapp) will see her next time but outside the Mezzanines.
3) Chicas Milenio calle 71 No. 14 A-24.
Normal Fee 40 k for 20 minutes, 50 K for 30 minutes 70 K for 60 minutes, covered oral / multiple position intercourse / one pop / no GFE.
Extras: negotiated 20 K additional for kisses, and breast play.
Provider Selected: Natasha.
Been there a few times (4-5 times) in past couple of years. Walked in the competition across the street, line up of 4 girls, passed. Walked into Milenio, lined up of 6 girls, selected Natasha, average look at best, but she seemed the friendlier kind which turned out to be on target. Went up to room, after negotiating extras, she fully disrobed, started kissing me and helped me disrobed. Covered Oral while on my back, she then rode me, after a while turn her over for K9, til completion. Talked a while and asked her for a massage, surprisingly she had strong hands and gave me what I would considered decent massage on my back and neck.
Worth it? The massage made it worth it.
Would I go back? Probably, That place is a hit and miss, low fee and conveniently located to where I usually stay (walking distance).
4) Bar la 70 - Carrera 17 No. 70 A-80.
Normal Fee 30 K for 20 minutes, 40 K for 30 minutes covered oral / multiple position intercourse / one pop / no GFE.
60 K for 60 minutes, covered oral / multiple position intercourse / TWO pops / no GFE. Picked the 60 and extras.
Extras: negotiated 40 K for kisses, and breast play.
Provider Marisol.
Was walking to Chicas Milenio and got a piece of paper in the street for this place. It is only a couple of blocks away from Milenio. 8 girls in the lineup, most average looking, two stood out, a tall pretty brunnete and the one I picked, Marisol, as her looks were a good representation of what I like, short (I'm short), nice ass and tits, flat stomach, good hips to waist ratio and pretty face.
Went up to the room, started with a covered BJ, then she on top, some kisses, breast licking and play, the k9 at the edge of the bed, guess she likes that position with knees together. Very nice view of her ass, great waist to grab hold off. Ate her off afterwards, she seemed to enjoyed it, started round two, more covered. BJ, etc etc.
Worth it? Marisol was worth it. Funny, while I was with her, I could hear a John (Juan) with one of the chicas next door. He was punding the shit out of her, room was shaking, and her her moaning, so I guess there is other girls that may be worth a try.
Would I go back? Yes, probably go back there before milenio. Low fee and conveniently located to where I usually stay (walking distance) just two blocks more than milenio. And They had a better line up.
5) Pussy House Calle 61 #13-64.
Did not partake in any action, but understand the fee for the girl is 60 K for 20 minutes, YMMV.
This is a location similar to the strip bars from Santa Fe (I do not go to Santa Fe), good line up, easily 30 girls in any given night, 2-3 girls continuosly on stage for 15 minutes shows til full nudity. Disco at the second floor, often I have taken the girls to the disco floor to dance, 50 k for half bottle of aguardiente, and 50 k for the girls whos stays with me a couple of hours, dancing, some touching, sometimes lap dances, works for me.
6) Twitter , and Whatsapp.
There is a good number of agencies and independents that advertise via twitter, from there you can also get discounts (promos) and numbers for contacts via whatsapp (just about everyone in Colombia with a cel has whatsapp), made contact with a couple of independents, very promising, but could not lineup schedules, and with Milenio, Bar de la 70 at walking distance, plus Pussy House a 5 minute cab ride away, hard to pass that.
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1712567]There is so much on this thread it's difficult to digest.
Would like to go to Bogota but not sure about logistics.
My thinking is to partake in street puta but not sure what area and where to stay.
I read that Sante fe has the girls but not sure about safety. I know not go out after dark.
If this is the place, what hotel is accessible and secure.
Also, is it possible to get any Asians in Columbia.[/QUOTE]I want to leave this at RTFF, but. Look at the maps, World Travel 69 pretty much has everything down with this maps. There is so much in there and for different parts of Bogota, from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa, to other parts of this huge city.
How's your spanish? If decent, you can have a very good time as opposed to someone who doesn't speak spanish and would stand out and risk not having a good time. As for logistics, you should really make sure you have your trip planned well. Bogota is a big city, there's lots to do, lots to see, and you want to be sure about where you are where you're going etc. As for where to stay, go with somewhere in Zona Rosa / Parque 93 if you want to be in a good, safe area. Santa Fe is risky, let's just put it that way. It does not mean you're going to have something bad happen to you, but if you are by yourself and it's your first time I'd advise you to pick another area and visit Santa Fe during the day. Check the maps for bars and casas.
Also, it's Colombia (not Columbia). Minor thing but really, as I work with Colombians I've come to discover that they can be annoyed when the name of their country is misspelled and I agree. The name is a part of their identity, so get it right as that's the least thing you can do. Yes you can find a few Asians, and mixed Asia, but it's not that easy and you should keep your expectations in check about finding them. You are in Latin America after all.
Anyone ready to hit Santa Fe tonight or tomorrow?
Even tough I live here, it's been a long time since I have been to Santa Fe.
Cheers,
Shizzle
Does anyone know if the Bhoeme Royal in Calle 82 No. 12 - 35 Bogota is girl friendly, I. E. Allowing escorts to meet you in your room?
Also, any recommended escort sites?
Thanks!
FP.
[QUOTE=Shizzle78;1712711]Anyone ready to hit Santa Fe tonight or tomorrow?
Even tough I live here, it's been a long time since I have been to Santa Fe.
Cheers,
Shizzle[/QUOTE]Please let me know more about Sante Fe.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=Vatore007;1700910]Can someone please tell me where Santa Fe is located in Bogota? I'm looking for a hotel now and would like something close by, but are there any 5 star hotels in that area?[/QUOTE]You'll be lucky to find a 1* hotel close to that dump. Stay somewhere safer.
Start Here.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2Ss[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1712858]Please let me know more about Santa Fe.
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vatore007;1700910]Can someone please tell me where Santa Fe is located in Bogota? I'm looking for a hotel now and would like something close by, but are there any 5 star hotels in that area?[/QUOTE]The nice 5 star hotels are in the North. BTW, I wouldn't expect 5 star hotels to be chica friendly in Colombia.
Use google maps. Santa Fe is about 50 minutes southeast of the airport.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1713742]The nice 5 star hotels are in the North. BTW, I wouldn't expect 5 star hotels to be chica friendly in Colombia[/QUOTE]That depends on what you consider "chica friendly", I have brought girls numerous times into 3 different 5 star hotels in Bogota (all American chains) and had no issues bringing them up to my room, never had to pay a chica fee. Discretion is the key. If you want to bring different girls whenever you want that do not "fit" the clientele (in other words, they are obvious working girls) then they may stop you.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1713846]That depends on what you consider "chica friendly", I have brought girls numerous times into 3 different 5 star hotels in Bogota (all American chains) and had no issues bringing them up to my room, never had to pay a chica fee. Discretion is the key. If you want to bring different girls whenever you want that do not "fit" the clientele (in other words, they are obvious working girls) then they may stop you.[/QUOTE]I do not believe this is true, it does not matter if it's a working girl or a regular girl. Especially if it's a reservation that was booked for one person or you arrive by yourself. When you check-in to a hotel as a single person, the hotel (4 or 5 star) notes that there is 1 person to the guest room. I will typically get asked "just you sir?" and it's noted on the reservation. You can say "yes" or "I have one other person that will be joining me. " with the latter generally being questioned a bit further. "Can you provide me with the name of the other occupant?" And that's where it has the potential to get a bit meh. Now this isn't always the case, but if you are bringing back different chicas and the same person is at the front desk / securiety there's a good chance you'll get stopped as they'll notice you checked in by yourself and are now bringing up another person to your room. From my experience, American chains are not "chica friendly" in Latin America but there are always hotels that will either not pay attention or not care. But it's safe to assume that they are not "chica friendly" rather than be caught in an uncomfortable situation (I have been stopped, and the chica I was with. Not a working girl but a DC chica). And this was a 5 star hotel, an American chain, and in the north of the city. It can help if the elevators are located in a spot that does not directly take you in front of the front desk or if you know of a side entrance that you can access. Or if it's a busy hotel and you coordinate things properly (as in bring in a chica early) with plenty of guests in the lobby or an event taking place where you can blend in then you have a chance of getting by, but only because you were not noticed due to other distractions.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1713846]That depends on what you consider "chica friendly", I have brought girls numerous times into 3 different 5 star hotels in Bogota (all American chains) and had no issues bringing them up to my room, never had to pay a chica fee. Discretion is the key. If you want to bring different girls whenever you want that do not "fit" the clientele (in other words, they are obvious working girls) then they may stop you.[/QUOTE]Seems like we've been over this hundred times. My experience has been the same as yours, it has never been a problem for me. In addition to your points, it also depends how you carry yourself, and more importantly how you treat the hotel staff, especially the security, and bell boys. Establishing a rapport with the staff will go a long way, and how they will bend the "rules" for you. Being fluent in Spanish helps with this also. Worst case scenario for me has always been, they make a copy of the girl's cedula.
Start Here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]
I recommend staying in this area.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1712567]There is so much on this thread it's difficult to digest.
Would like to go to Bogota but not sure about logistics.
My thinking is to partake in street puta but not sure what area and where to stay.
I read that Sante fe has the girls but not sure about safety. I know not go out after dark.
If this is the place, what hotel is accessible and secure.
Also, is it possible to get any Asians in Columbia.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1713854]I do not believe this is true, it does not matter if it's a working girl or a regular girl. Especially if it's a reservation that was booked for one person or you arrive by yourself [/QUOTE]So you are calling me a liar, funny. Believe what's your wish, the three hotels where I have not had issues are the Hilton, the Marriot and the Radisson. I always book single occupancy. What Nino Bravo states is right on target, and yes I have had to "register" them on ocassions, all that means is they take their information and that is for security purposes, does not show in the hotel bill and have not had to pay additional charges. But hey that has been my experience "Believe It or Not".
I live in Medellin but just got back from my first trip to Bogota. Overall it was a good time and definitely a place worth visiting, though I am still happy to live in Medellin. Some observations:
There certainly were some beautiful women in Bogota, in fact many more "types" than in Medellin, which is known for a particular look. I saw more thin women in Bogota which is a plus for me, and many stunners. On the other hand, I bumped into far more serious pros as well, many of whom had travel schedules to work in other countries already planned months in advance. They treated their jobs more seriously, some guys would appreciate this while others might not. Getting around town is a pain in the ass since the city is so spread out with houses and traffic is jammed, so be sure to stay in the area you think you will spend the majority of your time. Weather sucked compared to Medellin, by the way. The streets had more gorgeous bodies walking around than in Medellin, in my opinion, but the women also seem somewhat less approachable in normal situations (grocery store, etc). I suppose that is to be expected in larger cities. Also, women in Medellin have prettier faces, and possibly more likely to have fake tits or some other enhancements, again some guys might like it while others not.
I went to several casas and clubs. The best club I visited was Pussy House, the place was packed with talent and guys to take it in. I saw some of the better strippers I've seen in South America in the PH, sexy dances with many ladies of varied looks, everything from hot little black girls with a butt you could bounce a quarter off, to green eyed blonde dressed in pretend school gear. The place was full of pros, with chicas calling over their friends and mauling me while shoving their tongues down my throat. Interesting to say the least, can't remember the last time that happened to me in Medellin, then again, I usually prefer the more subtle come-on. I had enough fun that I returned two nights later and the experience was similar. Only thing about this club is they make you buy a bottle (after 9 pm?) in order to keep a booth and table, and if you're not buying fast enough or a bunch of high rollers come in, they keep shuffling everybody from table to table. At one point it felt like we were all switching tables every 20 minutes. Since most guys won't buy a bottle they have to stand around the stage. This can ruin the view for the rollers at the tables since they're looking at some guys ass in their face and can't see the stage, best to have a chica or two already on your lap at this point. Can't recall how much the rooms were upstairs, and girls quoted all sorts of prices as they're negotiated with the girl. All in all it was a great time.
Visited some other strip clubs in the same area, can't recall the names but they hardly worth mentioning, either lacking quantity, quality, or both.
The casas were numerous in the area just north of the Pussy House. Again, I am terrible with names and usually just keep hitting a list of addresses in a certain area until I find a gem. I wish I had taken better notes to update the map of Bogota, but as is usual in this industry, several of the casas on the map are now closed or at least weren't open midday when I visited. Some were however, and here is my take. Bogota casas have some beautiful chicas and many gave great service as well, even if a little too professional. Their looks made up for it, and by professional I don't mean they were mechanical so much as they tried really hard, which is not a bad thing. Unlike Medellin which is only paisas, I met women from all over the country (Barranquilla, Cali, etc) that were in Bogota to work, even some Venezolanas, one of which I really enjoyed with her big green eyes. Casa hopping is not as fun in Bogota as Medellin since walking the streets is not as pleasant and the weather always threatening to rain and somewhat chilly, people in general are not as friendly and warm, either. So the casas had plenty of talent, some really special and unique, for example one girl was a professional dancer (not stripper) and traveled a lot but didn't make much dancing so worked in the casa when home, legs and ass like steel. One thing I didn't like about the casas in Bogota is the water situation, none of them had hot water, and worse many (maybe half) didn't even have a cold shower on the menu! One hint, if having trouble finding casas that are still open or open your time of day, one can walk down Chile (Calle 72) between Cra. 7 and Caracus on south side of street and get bombarded in the afternoon with flyers for new or open casas.
I liked Bogota and am glad I visited, but still prefer Medellin hands down because the softness of the women here. It was strange that with so many ladies from different cities in Bogota, I can't recall meeting one Paisa there. Likewise, of all the 'rolas' I met, only one had been to Medellin. Maybe that's why Medellin paisas continue to have a distinct look, while Bogota has more diverse appearances being a capital city? Medellin is a large city to remain so homogeneous, and I'm not sure how that came about.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1713854]When you check-in to a hotel as a single person, the hotel (4 or 5 star) notes that there is 1 person to the guest room....I have one other person that will be joining me. " Now this isn't always the case...From my experience, American chains are not "chica friendly" in Latin America but there are always hotels that will either not pay attention or not care. But it's safe to assume that they are not "chica friendly".[/QUOTE]It seems to be always the case that vague generalities lead to nothing but thread pollution. If you could give the specific name of hotel and your experience therein, now safe to assume, that would be useful information.
[QUOTE=Golfinho;1715305]It seems to be always the case that vague generalities lead to nothing but thread pollution. If you could give the specific name of hotel and your experience therein, now safe to assume, that would be useful information.[/QUOTE]In Bogota there are furnished apartments for around $70 a night. Just arranged one for a visitor.
I am trying to figure your post out, maybe I am delusional, but can you give a little more info to someone who might be heading down there, like what "area" were you referring to? What is the best area for mongering? How about prices? I don't know if you bought a chica or not, your post is very vague
[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1715246]I live in Medellin but just got back from my first trip to Bogota. Overall it was a good time and definitely a place worth visiting, though I am still happy to live in Medellin. Some observations:
There certainly were some beautiful women in Bogota, in fact many more "types" than in Medellin, which is known for a particular look. I saw more thin women in Bogota which is a plus for me, and many stunners. On the other hand, I bumped into far more serious pros as well, many of whom had travel schedules to work in other countries already planned months in advance. They treated their jobs more seriously, some guys would appreciate this while others might not. Getting around town is a pain in the ass since the city is so spread out with houses and traffic is jammed, so be sure to stay in the area you think you will spend the majority of your time. Weather sucked compared to Medellin, by the way. The streets had more gorgeous bodies walking around than in Medellin, in my opinion, but the women also seem somewhat less approachable in normal situations (grocery store, etc). I suppose that is to be expected in larger cities. Also, women in Medellin have prettier faces, and possibly more likely to have fake tits or some other enhancements, again some guys might like it while others not.
I went to several casas and clubs. The best club I visited was Pussy House, the place was packed with talent and guys to take it in. I saw some of the better strippers I've seen in South America in the PH, sexy dances with many ladies of varied looks, everything from hot little black girls with a butt you could bounce a quarter off, to green eyed blonde dressed in pretend school gear. The place was full of pros, with chicas calling over their friends and mauling me while shoving their tongues down my throat. Interesting to say the least, can't remember the last time that happened to me in Medellin, then again, I usually prefer the more subtle come-on....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elmo5743;1715492]I am trying to figure your post out, maybe I am delusional, but can you give a little more info to someone who might be heading down there, like what "area" were you referring to? What is the best area for mongering? How about prices? I don't know if you bought a chica or not, your post is very vague[/QUOTE]Didn't intend to be so vague, just that I covered a lot of ground in only 4 days for a first visit, thus don't recall every detail. As I mentioned in the strip clubs, the ladies negotiate prices on their own so can be all over the place depending on what your requests are. The rooms are a fixed rate though, paid to the club, sorry but don't recall more on that end as I chose to get phone number and meet at short term hotel the next afternoon. The short term hotel was around 50 K for 3 hours, hot tub upgrade included but it didn't work!
I stayed in the Chapinero area, around the Chile (calle 72) area mentioned in the post so all the casas I visited were within 7-8 blocks in every direction, easy walking distance. Since it was daytime I went to casas I remember well the prices, and the varied from 30-35 K for half hour. I did get flyers from cheaper places offering promotional rates but they seemed like they offered minimal service for 27 K, and probably would upsell to full service or something to get back near the 35 K range.
I can't speak about the Zona Rojo or streetwalkers down that way since I didn't visit, I also didn't get much further north than my barrio since I also had business to do and limited time to explore. Chapinero was a decent area to start in my opinion, and not too far from good restaurants, in fact the best British food I've had in South America at a place called El Ingles. It's not a drinking pub but is a very good afternoon restaurant with great prices. I hit at least four casas each day to view the talent, so no shortage of casas in the area. It seems the best were usually the ones that actively promoted as I recall, maybe they were getting the word out when they thought talent was stacked in their favor, not always but more often than not.
My apologies for not recalling more details, I was on limited time and had lots of ground to cover. I didn't comment on specifics of the ladies BC I've learned it's futile at ISG, we all have different tastes. The main jyst of my prior write up was more of a comparison between Bogota and Medellin since I like Medellin enough to live here. Also, the casas were hit and miss just like anywhere, always. Just when one gets hot and everybody starts talking about, it's usually closer to the end of it's run, it wouldn't really matter if I had remembered which places had the best girls because it's likely changed already just 3 weeks later! Happens all the time, the best approach is to just keep going until you find what you're looking for, every man's taste is different and the ladies come and go. For what little I know about Bogota, I might have been in the wrong area the whole time!
Good luck.
[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1715246]I went to several casas and clubs. The best club I visited was Pussy House, the place was packed with talent and guys to take it in. I saw some of the better strippers I've seen in South America in the PH, sexy dances with many ladies of varied looks, everything from hot little black girls with a butt you could bounce a quarter off, to green eyed blonde dressed in pretend school gear. The place was full of pros, with chicas calling over their friends and mauling me while shoving their tongues down my throat. Interesting to say the least, can't remember the last time that happened to me in Medellin, then again, I usually prefer the more subtle come-on. I had enough fun that I returned two nights later and the experience was similar. Only thing about this club is they make you buy a bottle (after 9 pm?) in order to keep a booth and table, and if you're not buying fast enough or a bunch of high rollers come in, they keep shuffling everybody from table to table. At one point it felt like we were all switching tables every 20 minutes. Since most guys won't buy a bottle they have to stand around the stage. This can ruin the view for the rollers at the tables since they're looking at some guys ass in their face and can't see the stage, best to have a chica or two already on your lap at this point. Can't recall how much the rooms were upstairs, and girls quoted all sorts of prices as they're negotiated with the girl. [/QUOTE]I visit the Pussy House almost every time I'm in Bogota, to me is a little of the clubs of Santa Fe on the North side, safer and closer to where I stay. In the back of the main stage they used to have a see through shower where to girls would go on Friday and Saturday nights and do a lesbian show, Shower is now gone. . The second floor is a disco where they play salsa, merengue, bachata and regatton. Usually I hang around on the first floor, find the girl I want to hang around with, take her up to the second floor, get a half of aguardiente (50 K), talk, mess around and dance til the bottle is gone and go from there. They sometimes invite their friends over, always have a good time there. 3rd and 4th floors are the play room. Girls average 60 k for "el rato" (20 minutes.).
[QUOTE=JamesDandy;1715633]Didn't intend to be so vague, just that I covered a lot of ground in only 4 days for a first visit, thus don't recall every detail. As I mentioned in the strip clubs, the ladies negotiate prices on their own so can be all over the place depending on what your requests are. The rooms are a fixed rate though, paid to the club, sorry but don't recall more on that end as I chose to get phone number and meet at short term hotel the next afternoon. The short term hotel was around 50 K for 3 hours, hot tub upgrade included but it didn't work!
I stayed in the Chapinero area, around the Chile (calle 72) area mentioned in the post so all the casas I visited were within 7-8 blocks in every direction, easy walking distance. Since it was daytime I went to casas I remember well the prices, and the varied from 30-35 K for half hour. I did get flyers from cheaper places offering promotional rates but they seemed like they offered minimal service for 27 K, and probably would upsell to full service or something to get back near the 35 K range.
I can't speak about the Zona Rojo or streetwalkers down that way since I didn't visit, I also didn't get much further north than my barrio since I also had business to do and limited time to explore. Chapinero was a decent area to start in my opinion, and not too far from good restaurants, in fact the best British food I've had in South America at a place called El Ingles. It's not a drinking pub but is a very good afternoon restaurant with great prices...[/QUOTE]Appreciate the info that really helps! Just trying to decide where the hell I will go with my vacation end of May LOL.
If you're in Bogota and want to kill some time during the day go to Javerianna University on 7th ave and 39th st-- Lots of Beautiful girls walking around there.
Also Andino Mall / Zona T area is Great.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1713155]You'll be lucky to find a 1* hotel close to that dump. Stay somewhere safer.[/QUOTE]BullCrap-- Hotel Dann on 19th st and Hotel San Francisco on 10th Ave.
Just want to warn you guys there are are under 18 girls in Santa Fe. The Age of Consent vs Age of Majority in Colombia is 14. For an Americans that is illegal Although it would probably be hard to prove.
Here's some info on those laws; [URL]http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/is-sex-tourism-against-law.htm[/URL].
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Greetings Gentlemen,
The Age of Consent is the age in which girls can participate in consensual, non-commercial sex with their teen-age boyfriend without said teen-age boyfriend being charged with statutory [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url].
However, the Age of Consent is irrelevant to the members of this forum.
What you need to focus on is the [u]Age of Majority[/u], which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution and govern yourself accordingly.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Hey all,
Heading down to Bogota and will be there Saturday to Tuesday. Have a couple of girls set up but don't know which hotel to stay in. Was figuring to stay near Park 93 for the nightlife, restaurants and being close to everything. But flexible on location. Anyone know a comfortable girl friendly hotel they can recommend? Was going to stay at Lancaster house but don't know if its girl friendly. $50-$90/ night price range.
Thanks all as always. And if anyone is there around the time and wants to grab a drink I'm down.
This was my first time to Bogota. I stayed in Chapinero neighborhood. Its fine during the day, but seedy at night. Should not walk around at night. Taxis only. I stayed here. Awesome rooms, free breakfast, full kitchen, and chica friendly, and about a 15 minute taxi ride south to Santa Fe for he chicas, and about 20 min taxi ride to the north to Zona Rosa and Parque 93 if you want to hang out in the nice part of Bogota. 10-20 mil taxi depending on traffic.
Apartamentos Living 55 (Bogota, Colombia) - Condominium Reviews. TripAdvisor.
I went to Atunes during the day. It does not pick up until about 3 pm. I never saw more than 15 girls there at a time though. But they were all just as hot as the girls at La isla and Fase Dos in Medellin. Lots of guys sitting around drinking and hanging out but they were not pulling girls. Just drinking. Beers are 5 K. Bottle of Rum was 45 K. Waiters very nice. Good service. I was only gringo there everyday that I went. To take the girl upstairs to the room its 70 k for 15 minutes. 30 minutes is 140 K. Cold showers in room. No towels. Have to rinse your dick off and use toilet paper to dry off. That sucks. All the girls leave at 630 pm to get ready to move to the strip clubs across street at night. Ones I talked to were going to work at Paisa club, Fiebres, and El Castillo.
Went to Fiebres one night. From 8-10 pm American style strip club if your are in a small redneck town as far as the setup and decor. Girls gave good dances. Girls were very hot. Lots just standing around though waiting to be taken upstairs. Again, price was 70 k for 15 min. (what's up with the 5 min time limit in Bogota) No me gusta.
Another night I went to El Castilo. Man this place is nice! Way more comfortable chairs and tables, much larger than Fiebres, decor inside is really cool. Its very big. I went on a Monday night around 8 pm. About 15 girls walking around and sitting. Music was good. No dancers on stage. Just call a girl over to your table, and talk rates. First girl, a Paisa from Medellin, quoted me 200 K for 30 min and then when we went to pay for room she asked for another 40 K for room. I said no and took my money back. Found another girl, a Venezuelan, her price was 130 K including the room. Rooms are very nice, but again, no fucking towels. Wash your dick in sink and dry off with toilet paper. Damn. Ill go back to Bogota probably. But the Santa Fe area is major shit hole. North of 84st is the best part of Bogota. And that's a 25-30 minute taxi ride away at 25 mil for the taxi.
Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Cessna2100;1718294]This was my first time to Bogota. I stayed in Chapinero neighborhood. Its fine during the day, but seedy at night. Should not walk around at night. Taxis only. I stayed here. Awesome rooms, free breakfast, full kitchen, and chica friendly, and about a 15 minute taxi ride south to Santa Fe for he chicas, and about 20 min taxi ride to the north to Zona Rosa and Parque 93 if you want to hang out in the nice part of Bogota. 10-20 mil taxi depending on traffic.
Apartamentos Living 55 (Bogota, Colombia) - Condominium Reviews. TripAdvisor.
I went to Atunes during the day. It does not pick up until about 3 pm. I never saw more than 15 girls there at a time though. But they were all just as hot as the girls at La isla and Fase Dos in Medellin. Lots of guys sitting around drinking and hanging out but they were not pulling girls. Just drinking. Beers are 5 K. Bottle of Rum was 45 K. Waiters very nice. Good service. I was only gringo there everyday that I went. To take the girl upstairs to the room its 70 k for 15 minutes. 30 minutes is 140 K. Cold showers in room. No towels. Have to rinse your dick off and use toilet paper to dry off. That sucks. All the girls leave at 630 pm to get ready to move to the strip clubs across street at night. Ones I talked to were going to work at Paisa club, Fiebres, and El Castillo.
Went to Fiebres one night. From 8-10 pm American style strip club if your are in a small redneck town as far as the setup and decor. Girls gave good dances. Girls were very hot. Lots just standing around though waiting to be taken upstairs. Again, price was 70 k for 15 min. (what's up with the 5 min time limit in Bogota) No me gusta.
Another night I went to El Castilo. Man this place is nice! Way more comfortable chairs and tables, much larger than Fiebres, decor inside is really cool. Its very big. I went on a Monday night around 8 pm. About 15 girls walking around and sitting. Music was good. No dancers on stage. Just call a girl over to your table, and talk rates. First girl, a Paisa from Medellin, quoted me 200 K for 30 min and then when we went to pay for room she asked for another 40 K for room. I said no and took my money back. Found another girl, a Venezuelan, her price was 130 K including the room. Rooms are very nice, but again, no fucking towels. Wash your dick in sink and dry off with toilet paper. Damn. Ill go back to Bogota probably. But the Santa Fe area is major shit hole. North of 84st is the best part of Bogota. And that's a 25-30 minute taxi ride away at 25 mil for the taxi.[/QUOTE]1) a taxi from chapinero to downtown or the north should NEVER cost more than 10 k, 12 k if traffic is absolutely horrible.
2) it's been said here before, tip the cleaning lady 2000 pesos, that way you'll get 20 or even 30 minutes for the ST.
[QUOTE=BangoCheito;1718469]1) a taxi from chapinero to downtown or the north should NEVER cost more than 10 k, 12 k if traffic is absolutely horrible.[/QUOTE]Not necesarily true, Chapinero is a VERY large area, goes from Calle 39 To 100. I guarantee you that a taxi from 39 to 100 will cost you more than 12. A taxi from 61 and Caracas to 72 and Septima (a 5 minute ride) cost you a Minimum of 6 K sometimes 7 k. 10-12 K if you take a white taxi. I agree that 25 K is too much for a yellow taxi, but to state that should not cost more than 12 K is inaccurate, again, it depends of the distance.
Planning a first trip to Bogota in a few weeks with some friends. We have stayed at the Mansion and had a great time. Was wondering if there was anything similar or even remotely similar in Bogota that we could stay at?? Any help would be much appreciated.
Are there any freelance bars / clubs in Bogota where you can just go and meet Semi Pros? I like bars / clubs with good music / drinks, where you can sit have a drink and possibly meet a freelance / Semi pro? Or any reputable escort sites?
Thanks.
FP.
There used to be one, but I do not know if this newer location is the same thing.
O Hotel VIP Bogota, Calle 23 #7-36, (Old Address Carrera 19 A #122-33.) __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: _ Hours: _ [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QA406hVRRBI[/URL] [URL]https://www.youtube.com/user/hotelvipbogota[/URL].
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;1718804]Planning a first trip to Bogota in a few weeks with some friends. We have stayed at the Mansion and had a great time. Was wondering if there was anything similar or even remotely similar in Bogota that we could stay at?? Any help would be much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Georgest;1718438]Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You might want to try [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL]. They have an email address on the site and are pretty responsive to it, so you can complete the whole reservation by email. This allows you to use Google translate if you're not a Spanish speaker.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1716639]BullCrap-- Hotel Dann on 19th st and Hotel San Francisco on 10th Ave.[/QUOTE]My bad. Apparently you can find a better than 1* hotel there. It's still a dump and dangerous though, stay somewhere safe.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1723995]My bad. Apparently you can find a better than 1* hotel there. It's still a dump and dangerous though, stay somewhere safe.[/QUOTE]Again BullCrap-- You do not know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Mngr18;1716670]Hey all,
Heading down to Bogota and will be there Saturday to Tuesday. Have a couple of girls set up but don't know which hotel to stay in. Was figuring to stay near Park 93 for the nightlife, restaurants and being close to everything. But flexible on location. Anyone know a comfortable girl friendly hotel they can recommend? Was going to stay at Lancaster house but don't know if its girl friendly. $50-$90/ night price range.
Thanks all as always. And if anyone is there around the time and wants to grab a drink I'm down.[/QUOTE]Try this one: [URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co/destinations.htm[/URL]#/ list.
Chica friendly apart estudios at walking distance from Parque 93 or Zona T.
[QUOTE=Georgest;1718438]Any recommendation on good escort agency with English speaking operator? I am traveling to Bogota next week and I want to try the Escort sites, looking for decent site speaking English is a huge plus.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I was successful with a few agencies through their WhatsApp numbers. Angelitas is particularly responsive. The numbers are prominently displayed ion their sites. Email worked well with SolitasParaTi. Which has excellent escorts.
Anyone used Andes EcoTours for nature travel near Bogota? Not sure whether to trust anything on tripadvisor, but the company consistently gets high ratings. Other than on tripadvisor, I cannot find any commentary about the company.
After my week in Cartagena I had a night in Bogota before leaving home. I stayed in Cosmos 116. I can highly recommend it. A 4 Star hotel next to the unicentro. Safe area and fantastic rooms and service.
I was searching the web in my room and found Ana. Later she told me here real name is Diana. She quoted 200 K for 75 minutes including transport. In her advertisement she mentiond that she was a former Aguila girl. [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/ex-chica-aguila-modelo-paisa/122524/[/URL].
40 minutes later she was in front of my room. Okay not that hot, that I expected, but okay. Really big boobs and a big and firm butt.
We started with kissing and she gave me a nice BBBJ. After that, different positions. Everything was nice, she did everything I wanted, but nothing special. I think because she wasn't my type at all and because I'm spoiled by the two girls from Cartagena.
After a short rest we did a second round. At all again nothing special, although she was very committed. After that we talked a little bit and because she had no plans for the night asked me to go out with her to drink something. Because I was not tired at all, I decided to go with her. We hit to Bogota beer company almost next to the hotel. Because it was Friday the place was very crowded. We drank some beers and after a while she started kissing me. But I had no desire to stay with her more time so I deceided to go back to the hotel. She accompanied me. If I wanted, she would stayed for the night, because I could see, that see was sad, that I didn't invite her to stay. And she wrote me the next day, that she would like to stay and wanted to meet me again. Of course without money. Oh my god. These girls are really crazy.
At least I can summery from my Colombia trip, that you can have really nice times with girls in Colombia if you speak spanish and if you treat women well. A lot of them like to stay with you more days. I had a colombian wife so I know a little about the needs of colombian girls. For colombian girls it is extremely important that you are very polite. Than you can get all of them and you will get a fantastic service.
I will add pics of Ana / Diana at the photo gallery.
After a month of Spanish lessons in Peru, I am transiting through Bogota to the Dominican Republic and Cuba. I am not young, Asian and have no sex for a month.
Living in Charlie's Place Hotel (Carrera 8 d 106-84), which is clean and not too expensive (COP150 k a night). Not sure it is GF friendly. (They have condoms in the room but I never like over-nights.).
Walked to the "Mezzanine massage shops" at the intersection at Calle 106 #15, which means the corner of Calle 106 and Carrera 15. It is confusing to call that "opposite to Dann Carlton Hotel" which is not exactly at the intersection. Walking out of the Hotel, you need to turn right, walk for 30 steps and go diagonally across the intersection. Then walk up the obvious stairs towards the shop selling drinks and snacks. The massage shops are on your right (some say the left takes you to the back). I walked into the last shop (no. 8) randomly and choose the matured "Bailadria" (spelling? No one came out to try to drag me in, as suggested by some other posts. Bailadria is 25-30, pretty with ample breasts and ass and tight pussy. My basic Spanish is hardly adequate nor necessary, because of the service / price chart on the wall. From my bad memory, 50 k for basic massage and HJ, 65 K for CBJ and 85 K for completo. Chose the last option. Basic massage, teasing and then CBJ. She did suck my balls for quite a while and let me play with her pussy and suck her tits. She seemed to enjoy it and even showed me where sensitive spots actually were. Anyway, fucked me slow then fast as requested and I finished in no time. No shame after a month without, I suppose. Afterward, more massage, hugs and kisses and then bye. She did not give me the full hour but then I am not complaining. Men just try to run away after ejeculations, don't we! Must be in the genes.
I shall go back tomorrow and try the other shops nearby. The cost to me is negligibly low.
I dare not try other knocking shops in the South, like Santa Fe, being a very careful (and gutless) lad. Anyway, may try later after some stiff drinks. But my real actions come later in the DR and Cuba.
I find Bogota expensive and tiring, with its food not to my liking and the need to take taxis all the time. Good after Peru though, but hard to compete with the two hour no hole barred continuous action in places like Tulip in Bangkok. But then I like Western women and South American Chicas are interesting rarities to me.
Will write more if have anything to report.
Adios,
E
Thanks to the moderators for suggesting TransMilenia buses as a cheap alternative to taxis. Tried that today and I end up wandering North and South just to see the scenery. The lines are difficult for tourists to understand or navigate. Will try again tomorrow for Santa Fe.
Today, tried the first Mezzaninie massage shop on the left. This time I spent COP100 K for completo. Should have negotiate and there is no price or service schedule on the wall like No. 8 described before. Never mind. These shops do provide a safe and secure source of release in Bogota and I am grateful for it.
Some words on security. Two days ago a young and old pair pretended to be a tourist and policeman. The latter even showed me some sort of Police ID. After testing me out, the older gentleman asked to see my passport, saying might be I was in possession of drug or got into Colombia illegally. I patted him on the shoulder, said gracias, smiled and walked away. That was right in front of the Andino Centro Comercial, when I was searching for a beer. So be careful and do not take too much variables when walk about. These scams happen frequently in South America in general, I was told.
Remember they were trying to scam me and the whole things depends on my cooperation, believing in him being a policeman. No violence was attempted and it was not a robbery. May be I was lucky to be able to just walk away. If violence was involved however, I would have just emptied my pocket, given them what they wanted and then walked away, hopefully.
Adios,
E
[QUOTE=EricThePrick;1728438]Thanks to the moderators for suggesting TransMilenia buses as a cheap alternative to taxis. Tried that today and I end up wandering North and South just to see the scenery. The lines are difficult for tourists to understand or navigate. Will try again tomorrow for Santa Fe.
Today, tried the first Mezzaninie massage shop on the left. This time I spent COP100 K for completo. Should have negotiate and there is no price or service schedule on the wall like No. 8 described before. Never mind. These shops do provide a safe and secure source of release in Bogota and I am grateful for it.
Some words on security. Two days ago a young and old pair pretended to be a tourist and policeman. The latter even showed me some sort of Police ID. After testing me out, the older gentleman asked to see my passport, saying might be I was in possession of drug or got into Colombia illegally. I patted him on the shoulder, said gracias, smiled and walked away. That was right in front of the Andino Centro Comercial, when I was searching for a beer. So be careful and do not take too much variables when walk about. These scams happen frequently in South America in general, I was told...[/QUOTE]The TransMilenia are convenient but does take getting used to. The stop for Sante Fe is Calle 30.
How did you know the policeman was not real? What if he was? I am always unsure what to do in these situations. In Colombia, I am occasionally stopped at police checkpoints where there are a whole bunch of them so you are reasonable sure they are real.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1728772]The TransMilenia are convenient but does take getting used to. The stop for Sante Fe is Calle 30.
How did you know the policeman was not real? What if he was? I am always unsure what to do in these situations. In Colombia, I am occasionally stopped at police checkpoints where there are a whole bunch of them so you are reasonable sure they are real.[/QUOTE]Well, just how I felt. His English was too good and the fact that the fake tourist tested me out first. Why did he want to see my passport and not the young guy's. I travel a lot and no one took much notice of a retired 60 year old Asian man. We simple do not take much risk. We are not the drug type and we do not abandon our good life and try to smuggle ourselves into Colombia. Anyway, I had to decide in a fraction of a second what to do and walking away seemed the only feasible decision at the time. If he is real, then he could have stopped me then. I shall show him my photocopy of the passport etc. Again, I only carry COP100 k (enough for one fuck and a meal). If he is into violence then it will be a different ballgame but con men con and do not like violence, right? It is easier for them to walk away and look for other easier victims as well.
E
Used TransMilenia to go up and down Bogota the last three days. Simply go to any TransMilenia station and tell then the best you can that you want a ticket for three days (tarjeta durante tres dias). I paid COP18 k for 10 trips, which can be on buses from other companies as well. The rest involves getting used to the system and try things out. I had help of a smart phone, which has maps to tell me where I was, without using data roaming. The worst is some buses jump a few stops at a time, others stop everywhere.
Santa Fe is like a zoo (which I like). Have not partake but will try in later trips. Very safe in the morning, as suggested by others. Thanks again.
Havana and Sousa the next couple of weeks. Will report if I can.
Adios.
E
First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.
I spent some days in Bogota I stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel.
Their attention is good is comfortable wanted to have a little fun with a girl.
Because it was my first time and do not know a little research and I found.
With various agencies seems to me more secure, single look well so do not be fooled, I found.
With this agency [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL] me seemed serious, beautiful girls real photos.
Made the reservation to mail that appears on the web, they responded immediately, ask Paola.
Speaks good English take care with her a whole day went out to tour the city was ideal for my vacation.
We went to lunch and then to the hotel, we have a great time, she is very beautiful and sexy, it was a very good experience.
I will come back in four months and booking with another of his girls again.
[QUOTE=OppatPetter;1731341]I spent some days in Bogota I stayed at the Holiday Inn hotel.
Their attention is good is comfortable wanted to have a little fun with a girl.
Because it was my first time and do not know a little research and I found.
With various agencies seems to me more secure, single look well so do not be fooled, I found.
With this agency [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL] me seemed serious, beautiful girls real photos.
Made the reservation to mail that appears on the web, they responded immediately, ask Paola.
Speaks good English take care with her a whole day went out to tour the city was ideal for my vacation.
We went to lunch and then to the hotel, we have a great time, she is very beautiful and sexy, it was a very good experience.
I will come back in four months and booking with another of his girls again.[/QUOTE]I'm wondering what is the cost for you to take Paola out for the whole day? Also, does she offer BBBJ, DATY, CIM, COF all those service without extra charge?
Really, you did not see this.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2Ss[/URL]
[QUOTE=You69Me;1730731]First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1731558]Really, you did not see this.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kl47iMyOV2Ss[/URL][/QUOTE]Does anyone know when was the last time this map was updated. I think a number of places in the Calle 40's and 50's have closed.
Since I am not there, it is hard to check out every place.
So, I have to update it when someone (You) tells me which places are closed or new ones that have opened.
So, you [b]think[/b] places are closed. How do you know that. I hope you are there to tell us which ones.
[QUOTE=Cm6363;1731833]Does anyone know when was the last time this map was updated. I think a number of places in the Calle 40's and 50's have closed.[/QUOTE]
Can anyone answer this please.
[QUOTE=You69Me;1730731]First question.
Where is the best place to exchange cash you $ dollars in Bogota. Bogota locals say near the Gold Museum you get the best exchange rates. In Medellin the Airport provided the best exchange rate.
Second question.
Is there any mongering in Candelaria district.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
I was wondering how much do chicas ask in brothels in norte of Bogota. I know its more then girls in Santa fe.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Sunty;1732509]Hey guys,
I was wondering how much do chicas ask in brothels in norte of Bogota. I know its more then girls in Santa fe.
Thanks![/QUOTE]Not really, spas in the north around calle 71, can be as low as 30 k for 20 mins, do your research in this thread and you will see. (If you are looking for a bar like in Santa Fe, to go stripping til fully nude, Pussy House in 61 going rate is 60 k Poker beer 4 K).
Thanks for the info.
Santa Fe is not really an option for me. I think its wiser for me to stay in the north, safer.
Massagesinbogota dot com
[QUOTE=Sunty;1732651]Thanks for the info.
Santa Fe is not really an option for me. I think its wiser for me to stay in the north, safer.[/QUOTE]
Went to Lalosclub but was kinda dead. I have experience in st marten. Clubs like Carolinas.
I heard from a chica that Casanova is good. Can anyone give some info. It should also be in norte.
I'm transiting through Bogota for one night on my way to Ecuador tomorrow. Being a bit travel weary I wasn't in the mood to head out to any casas or MPs. So as I sometimes do, I called a girl from mileroticos. Of course there were tons of hot looking chicas on the site, and it's always a roll of the dice as you never know exactly who is going to show up at your door, but I've had unusually good luck in the past. Got a very good vibe on the phone from a girl who goes by the name of Anny. She was very sweet and accommodating. She showed up close to on time and my jaw dropped when I opened the door. To each his own, but by my tastes she was gorgeous, exactly what I was looking for. Perfect smooth cinnamon skin, spectacularly silky long black hair, a drop dead smile with perfect teeth, a great all natural body with ample breasts, and best of all a superb attitude. For a 20 year old, and she really looked about 20, she was amazingly talented in the sack. DFK, awesome BBBJ, sweet, sexy, no rush, and great rhythm. The view in reverse cowgirl and standing doggy with her gorgeous hair trailing down her back was an all timer. I gave her $100 US for the hour, and considered it a bargain for the convenience and the experience. If Bogota wasn't such a busy, noisy, crowded place, I'd make it a point to stay just to see her again.
I've got a few free hours tomorrow AM and have another girl lined up for an early session. She sounded just as sweet and fun as Anny on the phone so my hopes are high.
At Viajero11 your post is obviously promoting mileroticos.
[QUOTE=Viajero11;1735097]I'm transiting through Bogota for one night on my way to Ecuador tomorrow. Being a bit travel weary I wasn't in the mood to head out to any casas or MPs. So as I sometimes do, I called a girl from mileroticos. Of course there were tons of hot looking chicas on the site, and it's always a roll of the dice as you never know exactly who is going to show up at your door, but I've had unusually good luck in the past. Got a very good vibe on the phone from a girl who goes by the name of Anny. She was very sweet and accommodating. She showed up close to on time and my jaw dropped when I opened the door. To each his own, but by my tastes she was gorgeous, exactly what I was looking for. Perfect smooth cinnamon skin, spectacularly silky long black hair, a drop dead smile with perfect teeth, a great all natural body with ample breasts, and best of all a superb attitude. For a 20 year old, and she really looked about 20, she was amazingly talented in the sack. DFK, awesome BBBJ, sweet, sexy, no rush, and great rhythm. The view in reverse cowgirl and standing doggy with her gorgeous hair trailing down her back was an all timer. I gave her $100 US for the hour, and considered it a bargain for the convenience and the experience. If Bogota wasn't such a busy, noisy, crowded place, I'd make it a point to stay just to see her again.
I've got a few free hours tomorrow AM and have another girl lined up for an early session. She sounded just as sweet and fun as Anny on the phone so my hopes are high.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I'm going to Bogota in a few days, and I'd like to take an escort (or someone else) to my room. But contrary to Bangkok, this seems to be a problem here? I planned to stay in Movich Buro 26, close to the airport, but they do not seem to be open to accepting any 'guests'.
Is my information wrong, or what should I expect if I bring a girl to the hotel?
Which hotels are actually 'girl-friendly'?
Thanks for any feedback.
D
Nope. Not promoting mileroticos at all. I've just had very good luck with the site in various cities in Latin America. You can check my other posts that mention various casas, termas, prives, independent providers, etc. None of which I'm promoting. Just trying to share some information that may be useful to others. So at the risk of sounding like I'm really promoting mileroticos, I had a morning date today in Bogota with another girl from the site. Sofia, a young and very cute girl, showed up right on time. Like Anny last night, she was sweet, fun, affectionate, a little on the chunky side but in a very sexy way, killer smile, and provided very good service, including a sweet BBBJ. 150 CP for the hour. Of course, ymmv, and I've almost never met a website girl who spoke English so decent Spanish is a must.
Regarding chica friendly hotels, I stayed at the Casa Dann Carlton where I had made a reservation for two. No problems. I just made sure each girl showed up with discreet attire and an ID. The friendly staff even called me when she arrived to make sure it was ok. No, I'm not promoting the Casa Dann Carlton. I stayed there because it's the only hotel I could find in Bogota that has an indoor pool long enough to do laps, and I'm an avid swimmer.
Dann Carlton is guest-friendly. However, if you are choosing to stay near the airport then just know the Dann Carlton is north Bogota about 30 minutes from the airport. And that's assuming no traffic. 45 minutes to an hour with traffic which is terrible in Bogota during rush hour.
The thing to know about hotels is that a lot of it comes down to you and your guest, along with the hotel itself. How big is the lobby? Where are the elevators located (near main entrance and close to front desk or is it more discreet and you can get by without the front desk seeing you?) Nevertheless, I'd recommend booking the reservation for 2 guests. If you walk in with your amiga, you'll probably just have to register her. Whether your hotel charges for extra guests, it depends on their policy but that's why it's best to book for 2 guests.
I was in Bogota this past weekend and stayed at a hotel in Zona Rosa. Booked a reservation for 2 guests. Walked in a couple times with different girls, the security guard asked the guest to register at the front desk which took her ID, made a copy, gave it back, asked me to sign off on it and off to the room. It didn't bother me, and there was no guest charge. It's slightly annoying having to go through that process, but it's more secure for the front desk to have the chicas info and ID copy in the case something highly unlikely happens and there's a need to reference that information. Bogota has LOTS of hotels, some have more lax policies than others. I'd also advise to stay in the area you'd like to stay in and feel most comfortable in. I like Zona Rosa and felt most comfortable there. Further south might have more lax guest policies, but I don't care much about that. Book for 2 guests, make sure the girl doesn't dress or smell like it's obvious, and you should be fine. Escorts typically know how to dress when asked to go to a hotel. They're not idiots. Enjoy your trip.
[QUOTE=Dingske2828;1735426]Hi,
I'm going to Bogota in a few days, and I'd like to take an escort (or someone else) to my room. But contrary to Bangkok, this seems to be a problem here? I planned to stay in Movich Buro 26, close to the airport, but they do not seem to be open to accepting any 'guests'.
Is my information wrong, or what should I expect if I bring a girl to the hotel?
Which hotels are actually 'girl-friendly'?
Thanks for any feedback.
D[/QUOTE]
Sup guys. Had some fun in lidos in norte of Bogota. Here a little thanks for info.
This is my first post here. I would like to share as all of you do. I have been going to Colombia for 10 years now and have meet some great women there. I am starting my first post with a story about a women I have know there for 5 or 6 years. We meet through some friends and became friends. She was in university and I would take her out and give she some money to help with school (200 hundred US). After some time it became a regular thing. We would go out for a night or a couple of hours when I was in Bogota have dinner and always sex at the end of the night or sex at the start of the evening. She was always ready and willing. Great sex very girlfriend like. You know the sex you have when you fist start dating. She really enjoys giving oral sex and if you cum that's not a problem she will get you hard again. As for the sex she has the smallest most beautiful pussy, you don, t fine that everyday. If I had to say how she looked like I would say Cindy Crawford. She also speaks English which is a great help to me, I will bring her with me for work sometime and she will translate for me. I can speak bad Spanish so she is an asset for me. The last time I seen her she told me that she is now doing this with other business men and making money. She went to school for business so she learned, smart girl. I have meet many beautiful women over the years in Colombia but she has to be one of the best. This is my post hope it is enjoyed. I will write more in the future. I am happy to answer any question or help anyone with Colombia. Been going for 10 years and had zero problems.
Been finding really cute girls at different strolls 18-19-20 YO and Hot Milfs too! Paying $25.000 to $50.000 Depending on extras like BBJs and going in raw for a bit.
At Puntz79.
A traveler should know that different language has a different spellings for the same word.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1712681]I want to leave this at RTFF, but. Look at the maps, World Travel 69 pretty much has everything down with this maps. There is so much in there and for different parts of Bogota, from Santa Fe to Zona Rosa, to other parts of this huge city.
How's your spanish? If decent, you can have a very good time as opposed to someone who doesn't speak spanish and would stand out and risk not having a good time. As for logistics, you should really make sure you have your trip planned well. Bogota is a big city, there's lots to do, lots to see, and you want to be sure about where you are where you're going etc. As for where to stay, go with somewhere in Zona Rosa / Parque 93 if you want to be in a good, safe area. Santa Fe is risky, let's just put it that way. It does not mean you're going to have something bad happen to you, but if you are by yourself and it's your first time I'd advise you to pick another area and visit Santa Fe during the day. Check the maps for bars and casas.
Also, it's Colombia (not Columbia). Minor thing but really, as I work with Colombians I've come to discover that they can be annoyed when the name of their country is misspelled and I agree. The name is a part of their identity, so get it right as that's the least thing you can do. Yes you can find a few Asians, and mixed Asia, but it's not that easy and you should keep your expectations in check about finding them. You are in Latin America after all.[/QUOTE]
Where is the best place to exchange cash USD in Bogota?
Can anyone answer this please.
[QUOTE=You69Me;1741444]At Puntz79.
A traveler should know that different language has a different spellings for the same word.[/QUOTE]The poster I was responding to was speaking english, and was doing it in the Bogota section of the Colombia Forum. Not the Columbia Forum. Or the Kolombia Forum. Or the Kohlumbiah forum. Colombia is the name of the country.
Also, after 3 weeks you are still asking where the best place to exchange your $ in a huge city of 12 million is. Did you attempt to to RTFF? Even if you did, how could you not spend any time googling this in the last 3 weeks? Seriously?
If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1741458]The poster I was responding to was speaking english, and was doing it in the Bogota section of the Colombia Forum. Not the Columbia Forum. Or the Kolombia Forum. Or the Kohlumbiah forum. Colombia is the name of the country.
Also, after 3 weeks you are still asking where the best place to exchange your $ in a huge city of 12 million is. Did you attempt to to RTFF? Even if you did, how could you not spend any time googling this in the last 3 weeks? Seriously?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You69Me;1741561]If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.[/QUOTE]My recent stay was in Chico navarra, right next to Banco Colombia. I only changed $200 at the airport cambio thinking the rate at the bank would be better. Not so. At the airport I got 2400 something and at the bank I got 2200 something. I usually go to the cambios in the mall, seems like I get the best there. In some countries like Coast Rica the bank is the way to go but in Colombia it is probably the last place to go, bad rate, long lines and a lot of red tape. Also in Rio the cambios pay much better. Most likely because it's the best way for the mob in Rio to launder money. A sure sign your in a mob cambio in Rio is there are no armed guards at the door. You go to the bank and they lock the door behind you and have guards with Uzzi's, the mob uses a jewelry store with one little old guy sitting at the counter. Go figure!
LatinaLover#1,
Thanks that was very helpful I remember getting the quickest service and the best rate at the Medellin airport.
Downtown Medellin the casa de cambios would charge omission and the banks were slow. In Costa Rica Scotia bank has the best rates specially if you have euros. In Brazil private people offered the best exchange rate.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1741712]My recent stay was in Chico navarra, right next to Banco Colombia. I only changed $200 at the airport cambio thinking the rate at the bank would be better. Not so. At the airport I got 2400 something and at the bank I got 2200 something. I usually go to the cambios in the mall, seems like I get the best there. In some countries like Coast Rica the bank is the way to go but in Colombia it is probably the last place to go, bad rate, long lines and a lot of red tape. Also in Rio the cambios pay much better. Most likely because it's the best way for the mob in Rio to launder money. A sure sign your in a mob cambio in Rio is there are no armed guards at the door. You go to the bank and they lock the door behind you and have guards with Uzzi's, the mob uses a jewelry store with one little old guy sitting at the counter. Go figure![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=You69Me;1741561]If I had a clue where the best place is to exchange cash you $ Dollars in Bogota is I would not ask here. It does not matter how many people live in a city. There are mostly only 2 options banks or private exchange. I'm surprised that no one know here.
Google and many other search engines are about commerce.[/QUOTE]Third floor in the Andino Mall, zone rosa, Bogota, I found a money exchange place. I think it was New York Money. Something like that. Very good rate of 2400 to the dollar. So I agree the malls are better for your dollar changing. Forget the banks, long lines, red tape, etc. And a lot of banks don't change money.
A local just gave me this link and told me that the malls use this rate +-100 pesos.
[URL]http://www.colombia.com/cambio_moneda/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BatInTheCity;1742873]Third floor in the Andino Mall, zone rosa, Bogota, I found a money exchange place. I think it was New York Money. Something like that. Very good rate of 2400 to the dollar. So I agree the malls are better for your dollar changing. Forget the banks, long lines, red tape, etc. And a lot of banks don't change money.[/QUOTE]
While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct. This is in a residencial neighborhood. Across from it is another casa that I did not go to but based on the map, it is cheaper in price. I walked in to the house and there were six girls sitting in the front patio. You can not see them from the street. Two of them seem to be fine and rest I did not like. So I decided to take my chance in spite of not having a good feeling about the place. The charge is 120 k for one hour. I selected Tatiana. There are few room downstairs and four rooms upstairs. We went upstairs. There was no shower either in the room or outside of the room. There were two washrooms. May be the showers are downstairs. The room had a bed. It was neither dirty nor clean. Just barely adequate. Although the girl was nice and friendly, in the room she wanted to upsell for other stuff but I am neither used to it and nor like the idea of negotiating. I talked to her a bit. It was interesting when she said most of the customers are Chinese and Japanese. I finished the session early as I did not like the room with no shower and was not that interested in her either. Overall, if you care about quality of the place and the chicas, you won't find it here. I won't go back to this place and won't recommend it either.
Too bad across the street has a better selection.
I am sure the prices are most likely a little higher than I have posted.
Calle 71 #14 A-24.30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 40 k 20 min. , 50 k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.
[QUOTE=Sun08;1749733]While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct. This is in a residencial neighborhood. Across from it is another casa that I did not go to but based on the map, it is cheaper in price. I walked in to the house and there were six girls sitting in the front patio. You can not see them from the street. Two of them seem to be fine and rest I did not like. So I decided to take my chance in spite of not having a good feeling about the place. The charge is 120 k for one hour. I selected Tatiana. There are few room downstairs and four rooms upstairs. We went upstairs. There was no shower either in the room or outside of the room. There were two washrooms. May be the showers are downstairs. The room had a bed. It was neither dirty nor clean. Just barely adequate. Although the girl was nice and friendly, in the room she wanted to upsell for other stuff but I am neither used to it and nor like the idea of negotiating. I talked to her a bit. It was interesting when she said most of the customers are Chinese and Japanese. I finished the session early as I did not like the room with no shower and was not that interested in her either. Overall, if you care about quality of the place and the chicas, you won't find it here. I won't go back to this place and won't recommend it either.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1749798]Too bad across the street has a better selection.
I am sure the prices are most likely a little higher than I have posted.
Calle 71 #14 A-24.30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 40 k 20 min. , 50 k 30 min. , 70 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.[/QUOTE]Really? I was aware of the other case but I went to 'chica 2000' thinking it must be a better / cleaner / higher quality place. Thanks for maintaining the map.
[QUOTE=Sun08;1749733]While in Bogota on a Wednesday evening I looked at the map that W-T-69 maintains and decided to visit the 'chica 2000' casa. That is close to calle 72. The address on the map is correct..[/QUOTE]Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
The Marriott is a long way from anything. [url]http://www.bing.com/local?lid=YN8041x11295453406612811837&id=YN8041x11295453406612811837&q=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota+Bogota+Capital+District&name=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota&cp=4.581264~-74.1667[/url]
[QUOTE=Sammi123;1750402]Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1750496][URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
The Marriott is a long way from anything. [url]http://www.bing.com/local?lid=YN8041x11295453406612811837&id=YN8041x11295453406612811837&q=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota+Bogota+Capital+District&name=JW+Marriott+Hotel+Bogota&cp=4.581264~-74.1667[/url][/QUOTE]Disagree, there is plenty of action near the JW on 73. Chicas milenio and chicas 2000 are only 15 minutes walk away, several other agencias in a 5 minute walking radio from there, Pussy House is a 5-7 minute taxi ride from the JWMarriott, several higher class agencies are 15-20 minute walk away.
I know that area very well it is my playground. Sammi123, if you are a member message me, will steer you right.
I know better than that.
I looked at the Bing Map which has it in the wrong place.
Yes, Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000 are the ones I walk to the most.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1750665]Disagree, there is plenty of action near the JW on 73. Chicas Milenio and Chicas 2000 are only 15 minutes walk away, several other agencias in a 5 minute walking radio from there, Pussy House is a 5-7 minute taxi ride from the JWMarriott, several higher class agencies are 15-20 minute walk away.
I know that area very well it is my playground. Sammi123, if you are a member message me, will steer you right.[/QUOTE]
The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.
[QUOTE=Sammi123;1750402]Can you point me to the map?
I'll be at the JW Marriott, which I presume will not be chica friendly. Since there will be other people I know at the hotel, I'm also not too excited about bringing a girl up to the desk and registering her. Which mean I am left with finding Casas / in call locations.
I am hoping to find a good place close the the JW Marriott, since I am a little nervous about walking a long distance having not been to Bogota / Columbia before.
Appreciate any suggestions / advice.[/QUOTE]
There is a mall called Granahorrar. There you will find very good exchange rates. There are various options there. But probably the best rate you can get is taking money from the ATM Machine.
[QUOTE=You69Me;1741446]Where is the best place to exchange cash USD in Bogota?
Can anyone answer this please.[/QUOTE]
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Hi,
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm battling to find the maps often referred to.
I'll be visiting Bogota for the first time soon and will be based in the La Gran Via area, Calle 99 I think.
Any advice or recommendations?
Thanks
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[QUOTE=Zebra007;1755239]Hi,
Excuse my ignorance, but I'm battling to find the maps often referred to.
I'll be visiting Bogota for the first time soon and will be based in the La Gran Via area, Calle 99 I think.
Any advice or recommendations?
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BusinessTrav;1755097]?....But probably the best rate you can get is taking money from the ATM Machine.[/QUOTE]May not be the best rate but would it be a competitive good rate and very convenient as most Colombian ATM accept most major US ATM networks. I always take my COlombian cash out of the ATMs.
[QUOTE=BusinessTrav;1755095]The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.[/QUOTE]Is a matter of how comfortable you feel in Bogota, how well you blend in, your Spanish, how adventurer you are and how much you want to spend. I agree that outcall service may be the best option IF you get the right girl, attitude and service, but that can be tricky unless you get a solid recommendation or can read the locals revuews. It is however one of the most expensive options (Yes I know cheap considering US standards). But if you are looking for a quick, cheap and decent fuck, where you can pick the girl, and feel comfortable "exploring", then incall is the way to go. Both instances are a hit and miss, but if budget is not an issue I agree outcall may be a better option, BUT that is for first timers or seasoned visitors (depending on my mood, I may do an outcall). I definitely would not recommend a first timer to go to Santa Fe alone, unless of course you blend in, act as you belong and have good spidey senses. Knowing Spanish is always a big plus. All this my opinin of course.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1755444]Is a matter of how comfortable you feel in Bogota, how well you blend in, your Spanish, how adventurer you are and how much you want to spend. I agree that outcall service may be the best option IF you get the right girl, attitude and service, but that can be tricky unless you get a solid recommendation or can read the locals revuews. It is however one of the most expensive options (Yes I know cheap considering US standards). But if you are looking for a quick, cheap and decent fuck, where you can pick the girl, and feel comfortable "exploring", then incall is the way to go. Both instances are a hit and miss, but if budget is not an issue I agree outcall may be a better option, BUT that is for first timers or seasoned visitors (depending on my mood, I may do an outcall). I definitely would not recommend a first timer to go to Santa Fe alone, unless of course you blend in, act as you belong and have good spidey senses. Knowing Spanish is always a big plus. All this my opinin of course.[/QUOTE]Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1756139]Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.[/QUOTE]Enough has been writeen about Santa Fe, opinions differ.
In MY opinion.
Pros,
Plenty of girls, good selection, good rates, convenient all in a 2-3 block radio.
Cons.
Unsafe (don't have to look for trouble, trouble may find you).
Plenty of girls and selection and good rates elsewhere in Bogota (but have to know where to go).
Higly likely the girl will rush you as there is more business to make, same applies elsewhere, but more so in Santa Fe.
Recommendations:
If first time visitor, go during the day for your first time to Santa Fe. Get to know the lay of the land.
Dress down, try to blend in.
The obvious, use of common sense.
In MY opinion, it is safer to get in and out via the transmillenio, you are in a crowd no alone. Transmilenio however stops running late at night I believe.
Unless you know the person Trust Nobody.
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1756139]Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.[/QUOTE]Most people will say Santa Fe is not safe. In my very first trip to Colombia, Bogota was a stopover and I decided to avoid Santa Fe due to reading about it being unsafe. My very next trip which had me in Bogota for 3 days, I decided to check it out after talking to people who had good experience.
Pros. Lots of choices. From the girls in the daytime clubs, the street motels, and nightclubs, you can see all types. I thought Atunes was excellent and daytime selection was fantastic, plenty of 7's and 8's, and even a few 9's here and there. For daytime action, it's hard to beat. In the evening, it really varies. La Piscina has some good looking ones, as does Paisas. I personally thought the best looking chicas (my opinion) was at El Castillo. It is also on the higher end cost wise, but overall I consider Santa Fe to be good for the cost. I tried other clubs in Zona Rosa and Park 93 area, but the selection of girls was downright disappointing as compared to Santa Fe. I hit up the mezzanine massage parlors near the Dann Carlton, some cute ones there. However I did have one not so good experience there, but I'd go back to try some of the other chicas. Anyways, back to Santa Fe.
Cons. Safety, if you really don't know what you're doing and are not going to act normal and nervous at all times, then this would be a problem. Santa Fe is not big, but I highly recommend looking at a map and knowing the streets you need to go to. I took the Transmilenio, you will see El Castillo become visible as it's the closest club to the TM stop. Get off at the stop and walk down. 2 blocks, look at the maps on here. They are very accurate. Stick to the two-three blocks, do not venture out further as you get into tranny territory. Don't carry your wallet in your back. I was walking from the TM stop to Santa Fe and noticed an Indian guy with a fat wallet in the back pocket that was about as subtle as a baboon's ass. He also looked around like he thought he knew where he was going, but it was obvious that wasn't the case. People like that become instant targets for wandering eyes, and in Santa Fe there are plenty of them. I had a good conversation with a bouncer that works at Whiskey California (I think that's the name) and he told me Santa Fe is not safe past 10 PM. Why? Because you don't know anyone around here. There are lots of people walking around who are simply looking for vulnerable visitors. And while others might say differently, I would not take a taxi from Santa Fe. There are some hookers who basically don't have the best of intentions, and might offer to call a cab for you who is waiting close to the motel. I'd avoid this. Take the Transmilenio, or call for a cab yourself. My personal experience with Santa Fe was that I can see why people would say it's unsafe. I was there during the daytime, when it was OK safety wise. And I was there at night, when there were still plenty of people walking around. I did not have any negative experiences, nor run ins, I act like I know where I'm going, and I don't make an effort to stand out. The latest I was there was 11 PM. I don't know how it is past that time, but I stuck to the three blocks, and I did not feel any danger. I also did not drink, and was fully aware at all times. If someone has a drink or has lost some ability in awareness, then that would be an issue. So in my opinion, I can't say it was dangerous for me but I can see why others can and I'd always recommend to play it safe. If you're there in the daytime, no need to worry. If you're there are night, once you get into 11 PM onwards, the sketchiness increases with lots of wandering eyes and if you pay attention to detail as I do, you'll be able to spot those who are walking around in a groups of 2 or 3 just looking for people. If you use common sense, you can have a great time. Santa Fe does have some very good options and I think the value is excellent.
Santa Fe is not safe. I've seen guys doing bumps in the bathroom, brawls on the street with guys getting stabbed with broken bottles / lots of blood loss, and of course the usual pickpockets.
That said I do enjoy a quick drop into Atunes or a night at Paisas every once in a while to see if there's any new talent worth inviting out the following day.
As far as taxis go. Never had an issue grabbing one randomly at day or night. Knock on wood then again I make sure to only travel with cash and ID.
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1756139]Please inform me about the plusses and minuses of Sante Fe. Safe, not safe, use common sense etc. I am 50, speak Spanish and Anglo Saxon.[/QUOTE]Thank you everyone for your replies. I don't believe Santa Fe will be on my agenda.
Go in the day light.
There are lots of chicas in front of the short time motel / Hotels.
[QUOTE=Fuddzie;1756807]Thank you everyone for your replies. I don't believe Santa Fe will be on my agenda.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BusinessTrav;1755095]The JW Marriott is escort friendly, and you don't have to register the girl before 10 pm. For a first timer in Bogota I would definitely not go to any incall locations. Outcall services are the best if you are travelling for business.[/QUOTE]BusinessTrav thanks for the advice. Yes, I have noticed that no one is stopping you bringing someone up with you in the JW Marriott. Does seem to be perfect for outcall. What advice do you have in terms of reliable places to call for outcall. My spanish is so so, so the person answering would need to be able to converse at least some in English.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1604292]I put it on the map.
Carrera 14 #79-70 Piso 2. 10+ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: (1) 476 51 00, Cell 313 334 20 13. Hours: _ [URL]https://www.facebook.com/colorin.spa.7?fref=ts[/URL].
They list two others on this site. [url]http://serviciosprepagos.com/colorin-spa-sala-de-masajes-tematica/?age-verified=1601e638c8[/url]
I Had the wrong address for Apsolut Spa.
Carrera 16 # 80-66. 20 Chicas. Prices: Massage 30k, 200k Complete. Tel: 611 2518, 611 2603. Hours: Monday to Friday 10:00 a.m. to 8:30 p.m., Saturdays: 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m., Sunday and holidays: 11:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. [url]http://www.absolutspa.com[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks Wt69 checked in today at saint Simon, great place, went to colorin spa after check in another great advice, 8 girls took Vanessa, hot 23 yr old (25) LOL awesome service ok massage, had the circle bed room, great BBBJ finger pussy ass loves her ass fingered, overall great experience! I'm here another 9 days! I love this place already, prob going to a place called la mansion, looks expensive but WTF, then prob check out pussy house! Got a great feel about Bogota so far.
Thanks to excellent advice from Toreador I went to Chicas 2000.
Saw a stunning redhead there (Jennifer) . Actually saw her twice. She gives a very nice CBJ and the sex was good, though I didn't go for any extras (which she will do). Most of all I found her to be exceptionally hot (a 9) and was very friendly. Highly recommend.
As a first timer, with so-so Spanish, I felt very comfortable at Chicas 2000. I wanted to try Chicas Milenio as well but it seemed to be closed.
It was a short (10-15 min) and safe and easy walk from the JW Marriott. JW Marriott also seems to be Chica friendly for outcall, and I recommend it as a great place to stay. I just didn't feel comfortable in Santa Fe, and I personally do not think it is a good option for first timers, especially if your Spanish is not excellent and you cannot blend in.
The key with Santa Fe is to just not dress up and flash any type of wealth, and just blend in (know where you are going). Even if you miss a turn or two, don't stop to look at your cell phone out in the open. You can get inside one of the small restaurants / stores and do that more discreetly. I don't think Santa Fe is really that much more unsafe than any other red-light district in the world. But I haven't stayed past 11 PM anyways, in the early evening hours between 7 and 10 PM I didn't have any issues going club to club, stopping by somewhere for some street food etc. , going inside a store to get a pack of gum etc. I also wasn't dressed out in clothes making it seem like I was going out to the club either. T-shirt with light jacket on top, jeans, casual walking shoes. No watch visible, no designer stuff. One Plus One smartphone in one pocket that I didn't pull out, and money clip with ID in another pocket (both in front of course) and I just walk as if I know where I'm going. I did miss a turn during my very first time which was during the day, and I noticed it as soon as I noticed the increasing amount of trannies. Went inside a restaurant to use the restroom, pulled out my phone, checked directions, put my phone back in and then went on my way towards the right street. That's when I realize that Santa Fe (the place you are looking for) is not that big of an area, you can walk around it in 5-7 minutes probably if you don't stop anywhere. During the daytime and in the evening, there are just lots of people walking around and you'll see cops not too far in the distance.
So again, while Santa Fe is definitely not the safest part of Bogota, I do think that some of the danger is being hyped up a bit much. That's not to say one should not be cautious, above everything you must use common sense and don't take a chance on not being cautious. But daytime and early evening, if you take the suggestions above. You'll be OK. The worst thing I ever saw happening in the 3-4 times I went there, just a lot of homeless people walking around and a lot of eyes looking for pockets to pick. I did not see anyone getting shot, people bleeding everywhere, robberies taking place, drug deals going down everywhere, and police chasing after criminals. As you might believe by reading some of the posts on Santa Fe. I also did not look for that either, but my sense of awareness is very good. Bumps in the restroom of clubs, OK. Sure that happens. But I certainly didn't feel like my level of security was greatly reduced because of what might be going on in a restroom. The one other thing I'd add is, make sure you know where your drink is coming from and don't leave your drink alone.
Stopped by Gaticas in Chapeneiro twice today between 12 and 2 pm. Only three women working, though the lady-man who works the lounge area claimed there were more. I dislike her, or he, or whatever. The place is a dive bar. She, or he, will not let you wait to see if you want to partake. It is beer or chica as soon as you walk in. Worthless spot.
I then headed down the street towards the church near Bar 64. I block from it is a little spot with 2 chicas run by the same people as 64. Both were 5's. I took the MILF Vanessa. 25 K. Nothing special. But no hassles and quiet spot.
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[QUOTE=Puntz79;1758097]The key with Santa Fe is to just not dress up and flash any type of wealth, and just blend in (know where you are going). Even if you miss a turn or two, don't stop to look at your cell phone out in the open. You can get inside one of the small restaurants / stores and do that more discreetly. I don't think Santa Fe is really that much more unsafe than any other red-light district in the world. But I haven't stayed past 11 PM anyways, in the early evening hours between 7 and 10 PM I didn't have any issues going club to club, stopping by somewhere for some street food etc. , going inside a store to get a pack of gum etc. I also wasn't dressed out in clothes making it seem like I was going out to the club either. T-shirt with light jacket on top, jeans, casual walking shoes. No watch visible, no designer stuff. One Plus One smartphone in one pocket that I didn't pull out, and money clip with ID in another pocket (both in front of course) and I just walk as if I know where I'm going. I did miss a turn during my very first time which was during the day, and I noticed it as soon as I noticed the increasing amount of trannies. Went inside a restaurant to use the restroom, pulled out my phone, checked directions, put my phone back in and then went on my way towards the right street. That's when I realize that Santa Fe (the place you are looking for) is not that big of an area, you can walk around it in 5-7 minutes probably if you don't stop anywhere. During the daytime and in the evening, there are just lots of people walking around and you'll see cops not too far in the distance..[/QUOTE]Never felt in danger once, after reading all the hype I went to see for myself, it was Sunday around 4 pm every club was dead had a few beers I'm glad I stuck around around 6-7 pm still no body bisy except for troya got packed real quick around 50-60 girls lots of nice talent, I got quick (20 min) BBBJ from Angie (or close to that name) from Cali , 45 k total, I tried to stick around to see the good reviews about a tun but they never got busy, I think it was a Sunday thing?
Yup, Sunday's are quiet and if I'm not mistaken a couple of the clubs are not open that day. If you go on a Friday / Saturday it can be pretty busy. I don't mind a quiet Sunday. The hype on danger is hype. Enough people talk about it, make it look like the worst thing, who knows what is true and what isn't, but people will eventually convince themselves that if they do go they're going to end up in a bad situation. But I just don't think the area is any more dangerous than sketchy parts of Detroit or Chicago or DC, etc. And you make it more dangerous for yourself if you aren't smart and don't use common sense. Santa Fe is right there from the TransMilenio, you can see El Castillo as the bus approaches the stop and from there you pretty much head towards that and there you go. Still, I have had girls tell me that Santa Fe is dangerous after 9 PM and I found it to be OK until 11 PM. But first timers should try the daytime first and perhaps come back and try out the early evening. That's what I did and worked out without any issues. And some of the talent in Santa Fe such as Atunes during the day is totally worth it. In the evening I found El Castillo to have the best talent, but also the most expensive.
[QUOTE=RacShack;1758626]Never felt in danger once, after reading all the hype I went to see for myself, it was Sunday around 4 pm every club was dead had a few beers I'm glad I stuck around around 6-7 pm still no body bisy except for troya got packed real quick around 50-60 girls lots of nice talent, I got quick (20 min) BBBJ from Angie (or close to that name) from Cali , 45 k total, I tried to stick around to see the good reviews about a tun but they never got busy, I think it was a Sunday thing?[/QUOTE]
What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.
[QUOTE=SunsetStrip;1758613]Stopped by Gaticas in Chapeneiro twice today between 12 and 2 pm. Only three women working, though the lady-man who works the lounge area claimed there were more. I dislike her, or he, or whatever. The place is a dive bar. She, or he, will not let you wait to see if you want to partake. It is beer or chica as soon as you walk in. Worthless spot.
I then headed down the street towards the church near Bar 64. I block from it is a little spot with 2 chicas run by the same people as 64. Both were 5's. I took the MILF Vanessa. 25 K. Nothing special. But no hassles and quiet spot.
SS[/QUOTE]Went by mezzanines kr15-103 a cross from Dan Carlton hotel, like 4-5 massage places on second floor, good choices fun little spot, had a 19 yr old, made her put on sexy mask hanging on wall and suck me off BBBJ cum in mouth, 85 k, I'm enjoying daytime action here, but having trouble with night action, went to the forty 49 cr 1393-83, junk total ripoff, lalos car15 88-33 junk rip off, Casanova and la piscina calle 86 a 14-45, junk total rip off girls quoting 90 us to leave 300 USA For them, am I missing something? Wrong nights? I'm here 6 more nights, looking for night club atmosphere with music and working girls running around! Please help.
Read the forums, there's a lot of info. Take a look at World Travel 69's maps, they're very helpful and you can figure out a nice hotel from there. On girl friendly it's going to be a hit or miss, if you're discrete you can get by. All hotels are "girl-friendly" but it's a matter of them charging you for your extra guest or not. A few will just require them to register and you don't get charged, while others will ask you to pay a fee for every girl. Dann Carlton is in a pretty good location and is girl friendly.
Do not stay in or near Santa Fe, especially as a newbie. As for rates, it takes a little bit of time for those things to catch up to the market rates. I have not heard of anything changing on the ground as of yet. A few weeks from now, who knows. Even if prices went up a little bit, you're still able to negotiate and it's still a very good value as compared to other places.
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;1759146]What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
Apologies if I'm posting this in the wrong place, this is my first post on the forum. I'm pretty new to the P4P scene, although I've lived in Colombia for a few years and have done very well with the regular women. Anyway, I'm in Bogota for the week, and would like to check out Santa Fe with somebody who has a bit more experience with this stuff (I'm under the impression it's a bad idea to roll there solo). I'm a cool dude, white American, early 30's, fluent Spanish. If anyone is up for a night out I'd be more than than happy to buy the beers!
Cheers
[QUOTE=Lowkey1;1759146]What is a nice place to stay with girls somewhat close. I am assuming Sante Fe is not a place I want a hotel. I would like the action to be somewhat close but what do you recommend and clearly girl friendly and approx rates. Anything similar to the Mansion in Medallion? ID kill for an arrangement or situation like that. Also have you noticed prices went up since the dollar started getting better? Or is it a true value and we get more for our money? I know hotel rates sometimes follow the rise and fall of the dollar to local currency. Any help would be great. Trying to come in town within the next week. Total newbie to the area but not to the scene or the country.[/QUOTE]Hi lowkey1,
My best bet in Bogota will be: [URL]http://www.suitesreal.com/[/URL].
Booked as For 2 Persons, and you are all set.
My two Colombian Pesos.
Kukulkan
Just Hi from Cancun.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1759167]Read the forums, there's a lot of info. Take a look at World Travel 69's maps, they're very helpful and you can figure out a nice hotel from there. On girl friendly it's going to be a hit or miss, if you're discrete you can get by. All hotels are "girl-friendly" but it's a matter of them charging you for your extra guest or not. A few will just require them to register and you don't get charged, while others will ask you to pay a fee for every girl. Dann Carlton is in a pretty good location and is girl friendly.
Do not stay in or near Santa Fe, especially as a newbie. As for rates, it takes a little bit of time for those things to catch up to the market rates. I have not heard of anything changing on the ground as of yet. A few weeks from now, who knows. Even if prices went up a little bit, you're still able to negotiate and it's still a very good value as compared to other places.[/QUOTE]World Traveler 69 has literally been everywhere. I should just ask him first before posting LOL. Anyhow there a link to his maps? And if this was a super active thread then RTFF would be ok, but when info gets to be a month or two or a year old its better to ask the question fresh again because things change quickly and some people may have new insight. So I have def read it and looked back a few months and the exact questions I wanted to know was not answered. ID love a copy of this map so a link would be killer right now.
Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Kool99;1759795]Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I was there not long ago, the address had changed a year or so ago but I don't remember what it is, I have it written down somewhere. Sometimes the taxi guys will say things like that to take you to another place that will pay them commission. Try and do your homework before getting in to a taxi.
[QUOTE=Kool99;1759795]Hi all,
Can anyone confirm if Juan Pablo is still operating and where? Last time I was in Bogota, the Taxi driver told me it was closed. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]Was their tonight, it's open 20 or so girls! Pay in Pasos, girls want 300 k or 200 USA! You figure it out! LOL enjoy!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1759887]I was there not long ago, the address had changed a year or so ago but I don't remember what it is, I have it written down somewhere. Sometimes the taxi guys will say things like that to take you to another place that will pay them commission. Try and do your homework before getting in to a taxi.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. If you do find the address, please post it here for me. Much appreciated.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago[/URL]
[QUOTE=Kool99;1760095]Thanks for the reply. If you do find the address, please post it here for me. Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
Hi everyone,
I will be in town this weekend until Monday. Is anyone around that would like to go out and have some fun?
Maybe go to a night club or swingers club in the north?
I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1761077]I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]For a threesome, whether escorts or at a brothel, I highly recommend doing at least one of the chicas (and preferably both) beforehand. You really need to know first-hand how a girl conducts herself in la cama to see if she's a good candidate for a threesome.
[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1761077]I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Go to pussy house sit back relax watch the show, and grab two girls for 120 k total, I've had so much fun their this week, love teaching them young hot babes how to deep through (15 k extra without condom.) but worth every penny, calle 61#13-64. I was their at least 4 time this week and never had to pay 5 k cover that I read was in place! My first trip to Bogota, I really had a blast!! Very very good value, and want to thank Worldtravelr69 for guiding me through whole trip, even while I was here! 10 days here my body is beat up after fucking all week, need another vaca! Quito, and Sousa on my list of things to do!
Depends on what you are looking for, if you are looking for girl on girl action, you odds are not good finding that at a spa or brothel, it will be a hit and miss, more than likely a big miss. But ask, you never know, just be aware if they tell you they will, does not necessarily means is what you expect, they may give each other a little kiss, rub each other tis, and not much more than that, if you ask be specific of what you want. If you want girl on girl for sure action, you best bet is to get that service from a agency with good reputation like Solitas para ti, they advertise threesomes (or used to), make sure it say "show lesbico", not sure if she is still with them but Patty from solitas used to be advertised with partners for thresomes, she is a good time, great attitude, so so face but awesome body, or just tell the operator what you are looking for. If you go that route be ready to pay probably around 400 K. Another route is to look for that service in mileroticos, but that, though less expensive, is also full of surprises good and bad, hit and miss as well, and may not get the girls in the pics, I would not recommend. If you goal is to only be with two girls, then you can get that most anywhere if you ask. Don't expect girl on girl but you never know, may be your lucky day. There is a SPA in the North side that as part of their menu (yes you walk in and they give you a menu with different service options and "packages" I took, there threesome for an hour, (beers included. Ha-ha) for 170 k ftotal Both girls rubbing on me, oral from both, but not at the same time, kisses from both 10 k each (had to pay extra), fuck one or the other, but zero girl on girl. Good luck, and do report your experiences.
[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1761077]I will be in both Bogota and Medellin, have read this thread and followed for several years but never posted anything since I never went. My question would be pertaining to a threesome. Would the experience be better via escort agency or at a brothel. Does anyone have any insight regarding cost and experience.
Thanks.[/QUOTE].
In need of a dentist in Bogota. Nothing major, just a cleaning and filling but my dentist doesn't have any openings before I leave. Staying in Chica Navarre near unicentro commercial. Any help greatly appreciated.
I will be coming to Bogata in early October for a weekend visit. Even though I am a regular visitor to Cartagena and other Colombian locales, this will be my first visit to Bogata outside of one enormously rainy Monday evening several years ago. On that Sunday, I would probably fly to Cali or MDE for several days before ending my trip in Cartagena and Santa Marta.
I hear the Bogata nightlife can be pretty good especially on the weekend and wanted to know if anyone has recommendations for clubs and restaurants. Do any FL's go to these clubs? My previous research indicates the Zona Rosa area is good but also have heard other areas are popular as well. Also, is there much going on Sunday evening -- clubs, casa, or otherwise?
In addition, I would like to find a decent boutique style hotel in walking distance of the clubs etc. With the increasing value of the USD, I notice some of these boutique hotels listed on Trip Advisor are starting to be more affordable. I should also note that I am hoping a little hottie who I met in Santa Marta last October and now lives in Bogata may join me on my appointed rounds. She is now attending university in Bog to which I gladly and nobly contributed some of her tuition fees last year.
Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.
[QUOTE=RedLegend;1765618]Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.[/QUOTE]I'll be there in a couple of weeks. Not sure if I'll have time to update due to work schedule, but I have been using google street view and have also noticed just from that, that there are a lot of new buildings going up where the knocking shops used to be. I prefer massage parlors anyway, and there is plenty of info on those.
I try to keep the Map updated after someone posts something.
Which places did you visit that are Closed or Open?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago[/URL] The last date for this place is two years old.
[QUOTE=RedLegend;1765618]Does anyone have an updated version of WT's maps for Bogota?
I've been in town for a couple of days and certainly most of the bars in the north of the city are no longer in business. Did find one massage place which delivered to expectations.
Also is Juan Pablos still on Carrera 18 near the Dann Carlton? Read one post which said it had moved.
And is the famous Pussy House still in operation.
Have 24 hours to nail this city. Literally - any updated pointers on where to go would be appreciated. Otherwise I may have to head into Santa Fe.
Thanks boys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1765799]I try to keep the Map updated after someone posts something.
Which places did you visit that are Closed or Open?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago[/URL] The last date for this place is two years old.[/QUOTE]Hi WT 69,
Thanks for responding. All the bars indicated between Calle 86 a and around Calle 80 are closed and indeed some have been replaced by cafes and restaurants as this zone upgrades itself.
Most of the massage places however are still open, so my day was actually quite fun filled and there is a rather dusky escort girl winging her way to my hotel right now.
I also took a look at some of the bars between Calle 90 and 100, but didn't sense there was anything still moving there.
Next time I hit town. I will look you up in advance.
Cheers,
Red
Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.
Chica Friendly hotels-.
I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.
Second place I stayed at was the W hotel. I wanted to go big for the weekend and got one of their nicer rooms. I was a little worried about bringing a girl into a 5 star hotel. However I had zero problems. One of the reasons was the layout of the hotel. The official front entrance and lobby where you would pass the front desk can be avoided by going to another entrance that faces the shopping mall and other high rises in that area not as much security and no front desk personnel. The very good club and disco are located on the 3rd floor so not a problem to have a girl meet you in lobby and then say you are going to the disco and then later from there take the other elevators up to your room.
W is a great hotel, I was impressed and the girls from the barrio were speechless.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1766204]Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.
Chica Friendly hotels-.
I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.
Second place I stayed at was the W hotel. I wanted to go big for the weekend and got one of their nicer rooms. I was a little worried about bringing a girl into a 5 star hotel. However I had zero problems. One of the reasons was the layout of the hotel. The official front entrance and lobby where you would pass the front desk can be avoided by going to another entrance that faces the shopping mall and other high rises in that area not as much security and no front desk personnel. The very good club and disco are located on the 3rd floor so not a problem to have a girl meet you in lobby and then say you are going to the disco and then later from there take the other elevators up to your room.
W is a great hotel, I was impressed and the girls from the barrio were speechless.[/QUOTE]I stayed at the Bogota casa Dann Carlton all last week. Great prices, and the elevator to my floor was near the front door, not the front desk. So it seems it s chica friendly. I had an Amiga with me all week, and registered her, but I could have brought up anyone. Only $100 per night for us both, great rate for a luxury hotel. Five minute taxi to park 93.
You mention the disco in the W Hotel. So is that a good place to find pro or non-pro's or is it mostly couples and non-contenders?
I will be in Bogota the weekend of Oct 2 and have decided to stay somewhere near Parque 83 as that appears to be a nice entertainment district.
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1766249]You mention the disco in the W Hotel. So is that a good place to find pro or non-pro's or is it mostly couples and non-contenders?
I will be in Bogota the weekend of Oct 2 and have decided to stay somewhere near Parque 83 as that appears to be a nice entertainment district.[/QUOTE]I doubt there are many pros in either of these places. It is very upscale and a large percentage of the guys either had a sport coat or a shirt and tie at least in the bar between 6-8 pm. I felt a bit awkward in jeans and a t shirt. It was a great after work meet up place. I was waiting for a girl to come so we could go to dinner and sat next to a guy from panama that was doing the same. He was an international businessman maybe in his late 40's, dressed very nice. He was waiting for he said Miss Barranquilla 2012 who placed 2nd or 3rd in miss Colombia. I thought OK whatever. He wasn't joking, when she arrived she was a knockout.
The AU disco I went to on both Friday and Saturday night. Dress code is more casual than the bar but is still a very upscale disco. I didn't see any pros there. There are a shitload of girls though out with work friends. I saw several groups of 10-15 people where they were all sharing a bottle of something. I would say with some Spanish and some game one could hook up there with someone. I had girls with me both nights so didn't try.
Overall both the bar and disco are worth it if you are close to that area. Not sure I would travel across town though just for it.
[QUOTE=BatInTheCity;1766239]I stayed at the Bogota casa Dann Carlton all last week. Great prices, and the elevator to my floor was near the front door, not the front desk. So it seems it s chica friendly. I had an Amiga with me all week, and registered her, but I could have brought up anyone. Only $100 per night for us both, great rate for a luxury hotel. Five minute taxi to park 93.[/QUOTE]I would guess your experience at the Dann Carlton would be the same as any other 5 star place. If you register one girl and she is the only one that comes in and out with you then you will have zero problem. If you plan on having several different girls a day then you might have to choose something other than a 5 star. But the layout of the hotel can also help you out if you know that. For example at the W, if you enter through reception where you likely will have a girl arrive in taxi you have to get past the doorman, the reception desk and up one elevator, then go past another security guy and concierge desk for the 2nd set of elevators that take you to the rooms. HOWEVER, if you enter the W from the other side facing the mall and the courtyards you skip the doorman / reception desk and one security guy. On Friday night I had a very classy, well dressed girl arrive on first floor, no problem. I tipped the security guy on third floor though and we went to our room. The next night I had 3 very trashy hood rats with me that didn't belong within 100 m of the W. However we entered from the mall side and past the guard that I had tipped the night before and no problema.
All in all, a majority of the time in south america if you are discrete you will have no problems. I knew however my last night in town I was not going to be discrete at all hence the extra tipping and recon of an easier entrance.
Hi,
New to the forum and first night here in Bogota.
So since I'm staying in chapinero central, I decided to check out the bars close by as per the map provided by Wt69.
Either I'm reading the addresses wrong or they don't exist. Instead what I found were pet shops and jewelry pawn shops on.
Avenida Caracas.
As for the no name? Bar, it was not found either. Just residential streets with a couple of stores.
Has anyone been to any of these 3 mentioned? Have they moved? Or closed?
So I had a little time to kill before a new novia came over so I wanted to give an escort agency a try. I used solitas at [URL]http://solitasparati.com[/URL]
Called on the phone around noon and ordered a girl for 3 pm. Not sure if the operator speaks English or not for you non-Spanish learners out there. But she was pleasant enough and asked what I wanted. Since the whole week I was with different typical Colombian morenas I had her help me find a Rubia. I also said I did not want siliconas. She guided me to a Liliana and I checked her pictures online while talking and she looked amazing!! So I said yes please and we agreed for 3 pm. Lilianas page.
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/es-es/acompa%C3%B1antes/liliana.aspx[/URL]
I did some errands and showered and waited and sure enough at 3:00 pm the hotel reception called and asked if I was expecting this girl. I said yes of course and up she came. She knocked and when I opened the door. I tried to hide my overwhelming disappointment. It wasn't that "Liliana" wasn't attractive she was, but her add said 25 years old and friends she hasn't been 25 in a long time. My guess is she was about 37. Still attractive at her age and dressed in a suit like she was coming from a bank or business meeting. I considered just sending her back with some taxi money but her price was only 200 k and by now there would be no way to get a replacement here and out before my date showed up at 7 pm. So off to the couch we went and talked for 10 minutes, a very nice conversation and then she went to the bathroom to change. Out she came a few minutes later in a sexy blue teddy. Her body still looked very good as it did in the photos but I just couldn't get into the session. She started with very light french kissing but I didn't care. She then went for a CBJ and again I couldn't care. Now in retrospect as I am writing this what I should've done is just find some oil and ask for a sexy massage but she continued with her CBJ and then got on top of me. It was OK, but already at this point I was clock watching yes I! We switched to doggy and were going at this just a little while and she is telling me to pound her harder until I cum. I then decided I am not going to waste my leche on her but save it for my girl at 7 pm. So since I had her in doggy her head in pillow and the bathroom behind me, I began pounding her harder and then at end did a pretty good job I must say of faking an orgasm, I then pulled out of her grabbed my cock and condom covering it so she couldn't see and went to bathroom to "clean up" after I returned she did the same and then we talked for a few minutes and she said her hour was up and got ready to go. Once ready I gave her the 200 k and off she went. Nice lady and still fit and attractive for her age but MILFs are not really my thing and hard for me to get into it when I had a 21 year old coming a few hours later. I will try solitas one more time the next time I am in Bogota but will insist on one of the 19 yr old only.
Hi does anyone know of any action in Zona Norte area. Staying near Pepe Sierra bus station. I should have picked a better location but can do much now as its only a short stay. And I found a escort via backpage Bogota who happen to have a whattsapp number ***** wanted 150 usd. I'm like this working girl must be on something LOL. Any info is gladly appreciated.
[b][I]Rincon del Chico[/b][/I]
1. Angeles, Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 5 / 6. 6 Chicas. Prices: CBJ 60k 45 min., Complete 70k 45 min. Tel: 215 4536. Hours: 10am to 8pm, Sunday 11am to 6pm. [url]www.zonasensual.com[/url]
2. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 8. 5 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 60k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: 10am to 8pm.
3. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 9. 5 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 40k CBJ, 50k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: 10am to 8pm.
4. Abadesas, Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 10. 4-5 Chicas. Prices: 40k 15 min., 50k 30 min., 60k 45 min., 100k hour, includes massage, HJ, CBJ, and intercourse, 140k Take Out. Tel: 215-4518, 620-9358, Cell: 311-214-8104. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9:30am-8:30pm, Sunday 10am to 6pm.
5. Av. Carrera 15 # 104-03, Mezzanine 13. 4 Chicas. Prices: 25k HJ, 35k HJ++, 70k hour Complete. Tel: _____. Hours: Monday to Saturday10am to 9pm, Sunday 10am to 7pm.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.k5hsIHWzsfeY[/URL]
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[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1767856]Hi does anyone know of any action in Zona Norte area. Staying near Pepe Sierra bus station. I should have picked a better location but can do much now as its only a short stay. And I found a escort via backpage Bogota who happen to have a whattsapp number ***** wanted 150 usd. I'm like this working girl must be on something LOL. Any info is gladly appreciated.[/QUOTE]
With 1 stop round trip airfares from Podunk, USA to Bogota, at under $400, American Airlines seduced me into booking a trip. Looks like I will be going to Bogota December 1-10. With late arrival and early departure, I only have 8 days to do anything (2-9). Any special fiestas, celebrations that time of year?
[QUOTE=Dccpa;1768426]With 1 stop round trip airfares from Podunk, USA to Bogota, at under $400, American Airlines seduced me into booking a trip. Looks like I will be going to Bogota December 1-10. With late arrival and early departure, I only have 8 days to do anything (2-9). Any special fiestas, celebrations that time of year?[/QUOTE]I jumped on it when AA first put the route on sale 4 days ago, got mine for $280. Then this morning supposedly they cut the prices even further, but not for the time and dates I've already booked.
My trip won't be until early next year, but I started my research already. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. Interesting stuff!!
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768479]I jumped on it when AA first put the route on sale 4 days ago, got mine for $280. Then this morning supposedly they cut the prices even further, but not for the time and dates I've already booked.
My trip won't be until early next year, but I started my research already. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. Interesting stuff!![/QUOTE]Sweet deal for you. My airport has less traffic, so I never get the lowest fares. The AA sale for my airport didn't start until last night and ended about 12 hours later. All the other days I checked, the AA fares were higher and were routing me through DFW & MIA, adding another 12-14 hours each way. The same ticket that was $394 this morning is now almost $1000. I would have preferred United so that I could fly through IAH, but not for $400 more.
Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself. I've been to Rio and Amsterdam and wandered around at night with no problems. I've been in the meat packing district in NYC at 4 am Before they made it "trendy" and survived as well. I've viewed youtube videos of the Bogota Street scene filmed during the day and didn't appear to be problematic, although the streets were pretty desolate, and I'm sure I'd attract some attention, even though I do a good job of blending in.
So question #2. Not that I plan on being out in the Santa Fe district at 4 am, but how safe after nightfall are Santa Fe and Chapinero? I assume Santa Fe is the rougher neighborhood and I read an old blog from someone on another site saying they saw thugs on street corners brandishing machetes. Is it really that bad, and if so, who then goes there at night, based on all the taxi scams I've read about.
Hoping that Bogota has gotten safer, but if it's dangerous beyond comprehension. I might have to limit my activities to purely daytime hours.
Use Uber from the airport and no Bogota isn't that bad as long as you keep your wits about you.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1768528]Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself..[/QUOTE]
1. There's a taxi line right outside arrivals, you'll of course be asked by plenty of people if you want a ride and skip the taxi line. Just ignore that. I have not had an issue with the taxi line at El Dorado, you get into the taxi you're directed to, the meter is set, and off you go. To get around the city, ask the hotel or any restaurant you're at to call a taxi for you, they'll give you the code for the taxi that is arriving. If you have a smartphone, you can always use Uber and I've never had an issue with it other than the ETA of the driver being off due to bad traffic or the GPS being off slightly and the driver waiting a block or two off from my actual location. The other app is Tappsi.
2. Santa Fe safety. Ahhh where to begin? You'll read plenty of people saying it's very unsafe even for locals. I've gone in the daytime and in the early evening to mid-evening hours and I did not have an issue. Of course I also don't draw attention to myself and act like I know where I'm going. Santa Fe, the area you're looking for is not very big. You're talking just a couple calles that you can walk through in 5 minutes (assuming you don't stop anywhere). But of course, you're going to stop somewhere and check out the talent which at some places is going to make you think "yup, this is why I came to Colombia. " Places like Atunes (which is a daytime place and closes in the early evening). I've never seen guys with machetes and people getting stabbed, or robberies taking places, or chaos everywhere as some might lead you to believe. Everyone has their own experience, but I have never seen it. I also chose not to stay late, and some bar workers at the clubs advised not to stay past 11 as the area becomes more sketchy with people just looking for people to take advantage of. The biggest danger is just being in an area which is not exactly glamorous, and a lot of homeless people and sketchy people with wandering eyes. Honestly, having traveled to many major cities and walking through red light districts in those cities. I don't think it's much different. It's not the safest looking area, but it is what it is and there are lots of people walking around looking for exactly the same thing you're looking for. Also, once you get off the Transmilenio stop, the clubs are just one street away so it's very close to the mass transit stop there and there are cops / security right there. Don't carry a wallet in your back pocket, don't pull out your massive smart phone (if you have one) every few minutes or walk while sending messages on whatsapp to your potential lays, act like you know where you're going, and don't look like a wealthy visitor that has lots of money to spend. And you will not face any issues. My very first visit to Bogota, I actually held off on going to Santa Fe because of all the things I read on here. But I kept wondering about the reports where people went without an issue and did my own research, I asked people who have actually been there, and got some honest answers. Just about everyone said it's not safe late at night, just like it's not safe in certain parts of NYC late at night, or in Chicago, or in Frankfurt, or Berlin, or Amsterdam, or Bangkok, etc. So on my next trip I decided to go in the daytime (3-4 PM and stayed until 6 PM). I was there until 8-9 PM the day after that, and then up to 11 PM after that. I did not stay past 11 PM, and I don't know what happens after that time or well into the late hours. My experience was that I did not face any issues, and at no point did I feel like something bad was going to happen to me or around me, and I also didn't think about it either. I walked around like I had been there hundreds of times before. It wasn't an issue for me, and I hope that everyone has a safe and enjoyable trip there and does their proper research before they visit Santa Fe. There is a risk to everything, but if you use some common sense. You'll more than likely be sharing stories of the gorgeous women you saw and had the opportunity to nail at an unbelievable price and how you love Colombia and can't wait to be back.
Look forward to reading that report, have a safe trip. .
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1768528]Long time poster to the SXM thread. Now taking my journeys beyond the Caribbean and into the lovely country of Colombia. Thanks to all for the valuable intel I've garnered from reading the previous posts. I booked my trip about a month ago, so not sure how screwed I got on airfare based on some recent posts. I decided on staying at a place on Calle 56, which I figured is just about the midpoint from Santa Fe and the Mezzanine parlors up north on Calle 104. I think I'm in Chapinero which according to the maps shows quite a bit of action.
Only 2 questions. I'm a bit confused about the taxi situation from the airport. Seems they used to have a taxi office where you would go in and get a ticket based on your destination. Is this still the deal? I've viewed Youtube videos about the card the driver is supposed to display and the meter should be set to 25 and all the other happy horseshit about surcharges they can add on to the fare. I just want a safe and reasonable ride from the airport to my hotel, so any recent taxi tips would be appreciated.
Also, Santa Fe and the Chapinero areas after dark. I'm a world traveler that knows rule #1 is don't draw attention to yourself. I've been to Rio and Amsterdam and wandered around at night with no problems. I've been in the meat packing district in NYC at 4 am Before they made it "trendy" and survived as well. I've viewed youtube videos of the Bogota Street scene filmed during the day and didn't appear to be problematic, although the streets were pretty desolate, and I'm sure I'd attract some attention, even though I do a good job of blending in.
So question #2. Not that I plan on being out in the Santa Fe district at 4 am, but how safe after nightfall are Santa Fe and Chapinero? I assume Santa Fe is the rougher neighborhood and I read an old blog from someone on another site saying they saw thugs on street corners brandishing machetes. Is it really that bad, and if so, who then goes there at night, based on all the taxi scams I've read about.
Hoping that Bogota has gotten safer, but if it's dangerous beyond comprehension. I might have to limit my activities to purely daytime hours.[/QUOTE]
Appreciate the feedback. Here's a bit more background on my trip and any members with experience, feel free to comment. I decided on staying at the Abitare 56 Hotel on Calle 56 near Avenue 7. Price seemed right and the website drew me in for a junior suite under 30 bucks a night. Not sure if the place is chica friendly, but I booked the room for 2. A couple of trips ago to SXM, I met a really sweet Colombian chica who I've been in contact with via facebook. We did a couple of TLN's while I was on the island. She actually hated working at Hypnotic and left the island early this past March just before I was to arrive on island for another visit. You can read the details on the SXM thread and see her pic there as well. Anyway, she intends to meet me at El Dorado airport and spend the majority of my time in Bogota with me, so when I check in the hotel, she very well could be with me. Not 100% sure if she will show. She's from Ibague which is fairly close to Bogota, and I still can't get an answer of what she's doing now that she's back in Colombia. If she shows, my visit to Santa Fe may not happen at all. I'm hoping she just spends the weekend with me and the couple of days before and after, I can check out the other talent in the city. But, she's sweet and has a killer body and wasn't a shark or a pro like some of the girls in Caroline's in SXM. So we shall see how this plays out. I can either be in heaven with this Latin lovely my entire trip, or in hell, trying to figure out an exit strategy to get her back home, after being with her 24 hrs. A day for a few days.
Assuming she's with me and based on where I'm staying I think there's a big disco called Theatron nearby. Heard it's primarily gay, but with a hot girl at my side and 9 dance floors, I've read that it's a happening place on the weekends and worth checking out. I've read about the Bogota Brewing Company as being a cool place as well. La Candelaria and the north part of Chapinero seem to have lots of nightlife, so may check those areas out as well.
I've gotten the lowdown on Santa Fe, but what about Chapinero? I'm guessing it "appears" safer than Santa Fe, but anything can happen anywhere, anytime. For example, read that if you want to walk up Monserrat, do so on the weekend when the trail is busy, not during the week. Seems that 11 pm Is the curfew for walking and if out after that have the club / bar call a cab.
Also, in the area of Chapinero, Avenue 15 between I'll guess Calle's 55 to 60, and probably in many other areas, trannies are all over the place. Not my thing, but appears that many of these Colombians are quite convincing in their appearance as being as hot as a real chica. I've figured out where to avoid in Santa Fe for this, but wonder about any areas in Chapinero that one should be cautious about. Especially if they are mixed in with normal chica hangouts.
Again, if my chica does show, I'm assuming she's pretty familiar with Bogota and I'll have a novia and tour guide all wrapped in one. She'll be able to handle the taxi and logistic and where to go and what to do issues. Guess I'll change some money at the airport and then look for the New York Money change booths in the shopping malls the day after I arrive. Guess I'll have to leave the shorts and swimwear at home, since Bogota is not St. Maarten! LOL! I'll share my experience upon my return!
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768479]. So far I've been using google street view to check out the Santa Fe neighborhood. [/QUOTE]Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768811]Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?[/QUOTE]From the pictures it sure looks like it. I do not know the stret numbers but there is a gas station. From there draw a line down the blocks. You want to stay to the side that is closest to the expressway. The street that gas station is on and everything to the otherside of it is tv zone.
I was in SF last week and will post a report soon.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768811]Am I getting near tranny area?[/QUOTE]Oh, I forgot. If it looks too good to be true, it usually is. Sigh.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1768758]Guess I'll change some money at the airport[/QUOTE]Bad idea. Use your debit card at an ATM instead.
Chapinero is fine, at night you just need to use common sense and carry yourself with some authority. Walk like you know where you're going. I'm not a Bogota expert and it takes a little bit of time to get used to knowing where you're going but what makes it easier is knowing where the mountains / hills are since Bogota is pretty much laid out like a long strip. North to south so it's not bad at all. If I ever think I missed a turn, which has of course happened, I'll walk into a convenience store or restaurant and pull out my phone in there if I just really need to see where I'm going. The less visibility, the better. I think you know the drill. I stayed in Zona Rosa, specifically at the Sofitel Bogota. Yes a more upscale place but I read it's chica-friendly (and it is) and there's a Bogota Beer Company right in the corner along with many other restaurants and bars / clubs. The talent in the clubs however was disappointing. Especially compared to Santa Fe, I almost got the impression that the clubs in Zona Rosa has much lower quality than Santa Fe girls. But, I could have missed out on places and my timing could have been off too.
I like Hypnotic and Carolina's in SXM for Colombian talent, there are some beautiful women there and I've had good experiences (especially Hypnotic). Just keep in mind though, you're going to the motherland. Where the talent is actually produced. GFE is probably more easier in SXM though, but you also pay much more in SXM. If you speak some Spanish then GFE shouldn't be much of an issue to obtain in Bogota, and there are of course many many more chicas. It's a very big city, so not surprising. Ibague looks close on a map, but it's not. About 4 hours by road, and Colombian women can be hit or miss on that. I have been in contact with a couple chicas from my time in SXM who are from Bogota or nearby, and I had promised them that I'd be in touch when I arrive. One trip to Santa Fe made me forget them.
Maybe I'll hit them up if I just really get bored and have run out of women to find, they were good lays and I had TLN with them a more than once. So maybe. .
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1768758]Appreciate the feedback. Here's a bit more background on my trip and any members with experience, feel free to comment. I decided on staying at the Abitare 56 Hotel on Calle 56 near Avenue 7. Price seemed right and the website drew me in for a junior suite under 30 bucks a night. Not sure if the place is chica friendly, but I booked the room for 2. A couple of trips ago to SXM, I met a really sweet Colombian chica who I've been in contact with via facebook. We did a couple of TLN's while I was on the island. She actually hated working at Hypnotic and left the island early this past March just before I was to arrive on island for another visit. You can read the details on the SXM thread and see her pic there as well. Anyway, she intends to meet me at El Dorado airport and spend the majority of my time in Bogota with me, so when I check in the hotel, she very well could be with me. Not 100% sure if she will show. She's from Ibague which is fairly close to Bogota, and I still can't get an answer of what she's doing now that she's back in Colombia. If she shows, my visit to Santa Fe may not happen at all. I'm hoping she just spends the weekend with me and the couple of days before and after, I can check out the other talent in the city. But, she's sweet and has a killer body and wasn't a shark or a pro like some of the girls in Caroline's in SXM. So we shall see how this plays out. I can either be in heaven with this Latin lovely my entire trip, or in hell, trying to figure out an exit strategy to get her back home, after being with her 24 hrs. A day for a few days.
Assuming she's with me and based on where I'm staying I think there's a big disco called Theatron nearby. Heard it's primarily gay, but with a hot girl at my side and 9 dance floors, I've read that it's a happening place on the weekends and worth checking out. I've read about the Bogota Brewing Company as being a cool place as well. La Candelaria and the north part of Chapinero seem to have lots of nightlife, so may check those areas out as well.
I've gotten the lowdown on Santa Fe, but what about Chapinero? I'm guessing it "appears" safer than Santa Fe, but anything can happen anywhere, anytime. For example, read that if you want to walk up Monserrat, do so on the weekend when the trail is busy, not during the week. Seems that 11 pm Is the curfew for walking and if out after that have the club / bar call a cab.
Also, in the area of Chapinero, Avenue 15 between I'll guess Calle's 55 to 60, and probably in many other areas, trannies are all over the place. Not my thing, but appears that many of these Colombians are quite convincing in their appearance as being as hot as a real chica. I've figured out where to avoid in Santa Fe for this, but wonder about any areas in Chapinero that one should be cautious about. Especially if they are mixed in with normal chica hangouts.
Again, if my chica does show, I'm assuming she's pretty familiar with Bogota and I'll have a novia and tour guide all wrapped in one. She'll be able to handle the taxi and logistic and where to go and what to do issues. Guess I'll change some money at the airport and then look for the New York Money change booths in the shopping malls the day after I arrive. Guess I'll have to leave the shorts and swimwear at home, since Bogota is not St. Maarten! LOL! I'll share my experience upon my return![/QUOTE]
I know Sunday is very slow in Bogota, but where are the best bets for action? If I remember correctly Atunes is open in the afternoon and closes early, and a handful of other SF clubs are open. Are any of the clubs up on the north side open on Sunday?
[QUOTE=DadFun555;1769431]I know Sunday is very slow in Bogota, but where are the best bets for action? If I remember correctly Atunes is open in the afternoon and closes early, and a handful of other SF clubs are open. Are any of the clubs up on the north side open on Sunday?[/QUOTE]Atunes does close earlier on Sunday, you can always check out the other clubs in the early evening hours. Places like Troya are Fiebre are hit or miss but I've seen Troya be packed on a Sunday night. El Castillo doesn't open until 8 PM but it can get busy as the night goes on and I generally find the talent there to be among the best looking in SF. Good looking though does not necessarily equate to good performance, keep that in mind. If you aren't able to get to Atunes you can always go for the MP's, some of which are open on Sundays. The mezzanine (near Hotel Dann Carlton) has good options although service is hit or miss.
Some of the times are posted in the List Thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists{tagreplacement0}{tagreplacement1}[/URL]
Ten days away from my first trip to Colombia. The chicas (assuming they are chicas) in the two pics attached to this previous post, look much more appealing than what showed up in a few youtube videos. I'm guessing these are streetwalkers since the area seems fairly desolate. Now here is where I need some guidance. As in anywhere, streetwalkers pose health, safety and drug issues, so I'd gather that with all the other talent in Santa Fe, stay clear of streetwalkers. Not bad to look at though. Next question, how do they operate? Guess if you had a car, you could invite one in for a CBJ, but for the pedestrian crowd, where do you hook up? Is this where the "love motels" come into play? (Short term joints? How safe / clean are they? And what do they charge? Do you run the risk of running into trouble by going to one, such as getting jumped / mugged either in the room or leaving it? I wouldn't expect the Hilton or even a Motel 6 for that matter, but a bug infested mattress laying on a floor with a light bulb hanging from the ceiling, seems quite possible after looking at this neighborhood and Santa Fe in general. I know there are many other choices to pick from. Just gathering as much advance Intel as possible. Can't wait to see the "motherland" of Colombian beauties, as Puntz79 referred to the country! It's going to be like being a kid in a candy store I hope! LOL!
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768811]Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?[/QUOTE]
Check out Motel LasPalmas. It's on WT 69 map. It looks decent from the photos and the short term rates are published next to the variety of rooms. There is also another motel in the map a few blocks to the west of that location.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1770047]Ten days away from my first trip to Colombia. The chicas (assuming they are chicas) in the two pics attached to this previous post, look much more appealing than what showed up in a few youtube videos. I'm guessing these are streetwalkers since the area seems fairly desolate. Now here is where I need some guidance. As in anywhere, streetwalkers pose health, safety and drug issues, so I'd gather that with all the other talent in Santa Fe, stay clear of streetwalkers. Not bad to look at though. Next question, how do they operate? Guess if you had a car, you could invite one in for a CBJ, but for the pedestrian crowd, where do you hook up? Is this where the "love motels" come into play? (Short term joints? How safe / clean are they? And what do they charge? Do you run the risk of running into trouble by going to one, such as getting jumped / mugged either in the room or leaving it? I wouldn't expect the Hilton or even a Motel 6 for that matter, but a bug infested mattress laying on a floor with a light bulb hanging from the ceiling, seems quite possible after looking at this neighborhood and Santa Fe in general. I know there are many other choices to pick from. Just gathering as much advance Intel as possible. Can't wait to see the "motherland" of Colombian beauties, as Puntz79 referred to the country! It's going to be like being a kid in a candy store I hope! LOL![/QUOTE]
Was in Santa Fe last night until about 10 pm Checked out La Piscina. About ten chicas and I was not impressed. From there I tried to find Las Vegas but the door corresponding to the address on the list / map was unattended and a couple doormen tried to get me into a place around the corner. They were unresponsive when I asked if it was the Las Vegas and another doorman told me that the Las Vegas had closed.
I wandered up and down the streets around the main drag but didn't see anything to entice me. So finally I went to El Castillo. Lots of nice chicas there. About 20 or more but they kept coming and going.
When I left about 10 pm, it was really starting to pick up. I did not feel unsafe in Santa Fe but clearly you need to pay attention to everything going on in the street when you are walking around.
Jumped on the Transmilenio and headed up to Chapinero to check it out. Checked out what was Lewinskys and is re-opening as a no name club. But around midnight last night I couldn't find it. I was handed.
Another brochure announcing the inaugural for it again today so I'll try again tonight.
This was my second night in a row at Pussy House. Lots of chicas but nothing really hot. Checked out both floors both nights. Maybe I'm too picky but I thought El Castillo was way better talent.
Want to try Santa Fe again tonight but a little later after checking out a couple other Chapinero clubs.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1768811]Street view of corner of Cr 16 and CL 20.
Am I getting near tranny area?[/QUOTE]Ha ha. I've been google-mapping around the whole Sante Fe sector also. What you don't show in that pic is just to the right where you cut it off, on the building with the graffiti, it says "red comunitaria trans" or community network trans in English. Also just half way down that block is the Bar Shangay. Pretty obvious now? There was a YouTube video that also showed some trannies standing a block down in a corner where there's a convenience store (Cr 16 and CL 21). I'll tell you a secret that I've noticed. Sometimes, one of the prettier (real) girls will stand near the tranny area, I don't know if it's for a false sense of safety or they feel there's less competition or maybe some of them make friends with one or two of the trannies (although I always thought that's a very closed group for obvious reasons). So it pays sometimes to walk right to the border so to speak. If you're not sure, just say "hola" and 90% of the time you can tell right away from the voice. They know the deal, they know you're trying to verify so they'll almost always respond in a way that makes it clear. If you're still not sure, best to pass it by, LOL!
Thanks, I checked out the website. But think the place is up in the Calle 63 area, which is not exactly around the corner from Santa Fe. Place appears to be in Chapinero. Got to love the rates though. Looks like around six bucks an hour for the room. To get there with chica in tow, I'd guess you'd have to hail a cab from Santa Fe, which everywhere I read says it's not advisable. Call from hotel or bar to get code or something. Good to know about the place though in the event something develops in that area, since I'm staying on Calle 56, but closer to Avenue 7. . I guess as a new visitor to the Santa Fe area, I'll stick with Atunes, La Piscina, El Castillo, Friebe. And use the in house service. Also, I think I wouldn't have to pull a Crocodile Dundee and grab anyone's crotch in these places to verify gender! LOL! I had no real intention of connecting with any streetwalker, and those in the two recent pics posted, apparently aren't the real deal, but dam, they sure fooled me from a curvalicious perspective!
[QUOTE=Tomasb;1770143]Check out Motel LasPalmas. It's on WT 69 map. It looks decent from the photos and the short term rates are published next to the variety of rooms. There is also another motel in the map a few blocks to the west of that location.[/QUOTE]
Went back to Santa Fe about 10 pm Last night. First, I checked out Atunes but not much quality. The doormen told me they are open every day (including Sundays) from 2 pm To 2 or 3 am.
From there I headed over to Paises. About 20+ chicas and a number of quality chicas. Grabbed Barbie, a slim blonde with a great body named Barbie (about 5'7" with fake tits and ass) and bought her a beer. Spent about 15 minutes talking with her. But decided against settling soon soon. Wanted to hit some other places. I told her I might be back for her and she answered by telling me to be careful on the street.
Next on the list was La Casona. But there was nothing to look at there. Talked and flirted with some of the chicas hanging in the doorways along the street.
My intention was to end up at El Castillo but I went into Fiebre first just to check it out. As I entered, I see a chica sitting in the raised area just inside the front door snorting some blow from off the back of a guy's hand. The place was packed. No room to even stand against a wall. I have no idea how many chicas but there were lots and lots. And hot looking chicas everywhere I looked. This place was rocking and the strippers were the best I had seen in my limited time in Bogota. It was so packed that there was constant jostling as people passed by. Had my ass grabbed a few times by chicas. After about twenty minutes or so I decided on a very hot looking chica named MaryAnn. Bought her a drink and tried to talk but it was difficult with the music. Up until this point, it had been a fun time and while I saw no other obvious gringos, no one besides the girls seemed to pay me any attention. But while I'm chatting up this chica, I started getting some really hard stares from some young punks sitting right in front of us. Even to the point of them standing up and turning around to glare. I just ignored them but it made me a little uncomfortable. I decided to try out this chica. When we went over to the bar area, some drunk old Colombian grabs her ass and won't let go. She turns to me like I should say or do something but I figured she could deal with it herself. I'm not about to start something with a drunk in a place like that. We go upstairs and no sooner than we get in the room when she starts with the bullshit. Everything that we negotiated below was off the table. I recognized that I had chosen poorly. She had not shown any particular interest in me prior to my speaking to her but she was smoking hot. I told her just get to it. CBJ and a fuck and I left while she was still dressing. It was around midnight so I cruised over to near the 23rd Street station, hailed a cab without incident and went back to the hotel in Chapinero.
It's the second time in recent days I've seen someone on the Colombia forum mention walking into some place and see a girl snorting blow and being very visible. While that's not my thing, I'm a little surprised that people are very surprised considering where you are. I've seen it at clubs in Santa Fe both discreetly and not so much, and I've also seen it at nicer places not only in Bogota but in Cartagena and Medellin as well. The very first time I witnessed this, I'll admit. It was a little surprising. Probably because those who are from the US like myself recognize this as being illegal. But I've been to many clubs in the US, and this happens all the time albeit more discreetly and not out in the open. It doesn't bother me much in a way, and I simply recognize it as coming with the territory. Most (not all) of the girls I've been with in Colombia have asked me if I wanted to do some, and I politely declined. I've walked down the streets of Cartagena (in Centro) in the evening and been asked by touts if I wanted a tour, chica, or coke and I simply decline. So each time I visit and see this, it becomes easier to ignore. I'm not sure if that's the right attitude to have, or if there's anything in particular I'm supposed to look out for that could be an issue for my own safety. Perhaps you guys have different experiences and can share if this has affected your mongering trip in any way. I know where I am, and I know certain things are more easily attainable than other parts of the world, so being able to recognize that and ignore it has never caused much of an issue for me.
You do understand that possession of cocaine is legal in Colombia, right? Right? Up to one gram, and it is also legal to give it away.
[QUOTE=Dickhead;1771149]You do understand that possession of cocaine is legal in Colombia, right? Right? Up to one gram, and it is also legal to give it away.[/QUOTE]Yes, I understand. But do others? Hence the reason why I'm commenting. People act surprised and mention that they saw girls at a club snorting, and I'm curious how I'm supposed to use that information since whenever it is mentioned, it's generally geared towards the safety factor.
Your mailbox is full.
Very interesting that you met "C".
Nope. I had no idea that 1 g. Of coke was legal. I had not been there in thirty years and stopped using myself many years ago.
Nonetheless, Fiebre was a very happening place on a Saturday night. Next time, I think I'll try midweek.
I stayed in Chapinero at 55 con 10. Pussy House was a 5 minute walk.
While I was there, I was handed a number of cards for different houses in the area.
One was a no name at the same address as the old Lewinsky's, but I had no luck finding it open. It advertised chicas from 15 K and a lesbian show for 90 K.
I also checked out one called Sola Universitarias at Calle 61 No. 16-72 but, again, had no luck.
Others which I did not look for:
Masajes Relajantes, Atendido por Universitarias, Relax Total Calle 59 No. 10-19 Of. 201.
Odaliscas Spa, from 27 K, two chicas 34 K, Sauna and Jacuzzi, Domicilios Se recibe personal10 am To 8 pm Carrera 17, No. 53-26.
So this was my first time to Colombia, I was coming from a week in Rio. So here goes. Got to the airport around 5:30 pm, went through customs and got my bags. Exchanged some money the rate was 1 usd to 2700 peso. I knew I was going to get ripped a little but whatever. So I leave and head toward the exit. I got one of the security guys to get me a cab. However this wasn't a yellow cab it was like a gypsy cab and the guy gave me a receipt. He led me to the parking lot which had his son awaiting to take me to my destination. Charge was 70 k from airport to Batan area. On the way out I took a yellow cab and was like 27k peso. I needed to get where I needed to go so I didn't sweat it but knew it was a little high. So we finally get there the driver. I feel like I'm in California the way the houses are designed. Did have a guard at the beginning of the street and he gave me the keys. So the driver lets me out and says 75 k I say the receipt says 70 k, he also didn't have exact change. He states " propina voluntario" so he basically got a tip due to not having correct change. So to sum it up I didn't some tourist things and checked the city out a little since I only had 2 days there. I am impressed with the Transmillenio however a city of 8 million it can get tight in them buses. Now to the mongering. Thanks to WorldTravel69 as I posted on here for information regarding Zona Norte and he was quick to respond with some address. I found all and a couple were closed along Calle 15. The closed locations were 106-58 and 106-60. I didn't see where the entrance for the " massage " was at the Hotel Dan Carlton. I ended up going to 104-03 mezzanine 13. Had about 6-7 girls chose Sofia, prices are 60 k-HJ, 70 k-BJ,80-k FS all with massage. Paid upfront as well. The massage was ok, the sex was ok but I think the small rooms killed it for me. Take out is available as well since I got her number. I checked all the other mezzanines as well but looks like the same set up. Would I repeat maybe maybe not who knows. Bogota was sunny and light showers on and off throughout the day.
Sofia is a very average at best performer. She is one of the best looking ones there, more "hot" than cute or beautiful and she grabs your attention. But in the room, and yes very small room, she is just OK. In fact I'd say she's not worth it at all, but because she's very attractive it's what lured me in. Her body has some signs of wear, although she's 26. At least she says she is, and she has had two kids if I'm not mistaken. Trust me, there are a lot of better options at the Mezzanine.
[QUOTE=KingOfCrunk;1773532]So this was my first time to Colombia, I was coming from a week in Rio. So here goes. Got to the airport around 5:30 pm, went through customs and got my bags. Exchanged some money the rate was 1 usd to 2700 peso. I knew I was going to get ripped a little but whatever. So I leave and head toward the exit. I got one of the security guys to get me a cab. However this wasn't a yellow cab it was like a gypsy cab and the guy gave me a receipt. He led me to the parking lot which had his son awaiting to take me to my destination. Charge was 70 k from airport to Batan area. On the way out I took a yellow cab and was like 27k peso. I needed to get where I needed to go so I didn't sweat it but knew it was a little high. So we finally get there the driver. I feel like I'm in California the way the houses are designed. Did have a guard at the beginning of the street and he gave me the keys. So the driver lets me out and says 75 k I say the receipt says 70 k, he also didn't have exact change. He states " propina voluntario" so he basically got a tip due to not having correct change. So to sum it up I didn't some tourist things and checked the city out a little since I only had 2 days there. I am impressed with the Transmillenio however a city of 8 million it can get tight in them buses. Now to the mongering. Thanks to WorldTravel69 as I posted on here for information regarding Zona Norte and he was quick to respond with some address. I found all and a couple were closed along Calle 15. The closed locations were 106-58 and 106-60. I didn't see where the entrance for the " massage " was at the Hotel Dan Carlton. I ended up going to 104-03 mezzanine 13. Had about 6-7 girls chose Sofia, prices are 60 k-HJ, 70 k-BJ,80-k FS all with massage. Paid upfront as well. The massage was ok, the sex was ok but I think the small rooms killed it for me. Take out is available as well since I got her number. I checked all the other mezzanines as well but looks like the same set up. Would I repeat maybe maybe not who knows. Bogota was sunny and light showers on and off throughout the day.[/QUOTE]
I met a girl online from barrio Galerias, she's a nurse, we and my buddy and his girl went to a tango restaurant last night. It was a good change of pace to see Tango close up.
The name of the place is Pena Esquina del tango. Best to get there by 9 for a good table and have time to eat before the show. BTW we all had the baby beef that was excellent and I think it was about 12 or 13 bucks for a very tender, nice size steak and fries and salad.
I'm living now in Colombia. I'm not a monger anymore, paying for sex seems ridiculous once you live here. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, started to investigate new areas and became swinger.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their pants on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Colombians have no issue with race or origin, but with social difference yes. They need to know that they are fucking within their social class, therefor you have the clubs in the north for the upper scale and the clubs in the south of Bogota for the poorer social classes. As no one form the north even imagine going south, I know that there are some swing clubs in the south but have absolutely no info about them.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
Here are the best clubs in Bogota:
[B]Spa SW [/B] [URL]http://swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted.
The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed.
Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most.
The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals.
The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
[B]Interspa[/B] [URL]www.intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted.
It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
[B]Europeo[/B] [URL]www.europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks.
Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty.
But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123][CodeWord123][/url] the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with waterguns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
[B]Zafiro[/B] [URL]www.zafirosclub-sw.com[/URL] Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open everyday from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open everyday also for single men.
It's by far the biggest club in area, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great here, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
[B]Monastery [/B]Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closed Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened since a month with a new management.
It is simply my preferred place, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.
A few tips:
- Even if there are clubs that open for single men, I simply don't recommend it. It's so easy to pick up a pro that is willing to escort you all night for 200 000 that it is no worth the frustration you feel being a single man in a swing couple, begging for sex, quarreling with the other single men for a peace of space.
- If you go with a pro, I definitely recommend Europeo as you will find for sure a couple that is willing to swing.
- Once you are in the club with your pro, try to spot the swing couples, and within the swing couple try to spot those who are not real couples. At the end of the night, when everybody is waiting at the entrance for a taxi, try to get o couple of phone numbers. There are always swing girls that are looking for a swing buddy to go to swing clubs.
- If you have a novia or an amiguita willing to escort you but inexperienced in swing, bring her first to Monastery. It's by far the one with the best facilities and with the most educated people, not a hardcore swing atmosphere, but couples that like to experiment.
Gents,
Headed to Bogota for the first time. Visiting my cousin who is a pro athlete there, but he'll be traveling for my first two days so I'll be entertaining myself. He's setting me up with a local he knows who's supposed to be a savvy, cool fella, however I'd still be interested to hear some rec's if you gentlemen would be so kind.
Staying on calle 53 and know absolutely nothing about the city and speak no Spanish. Looking for a nice club to go to to have a good time where a solo guy wouldn't necessarily be out of place? If I did decide to indulge myself with a couple ladies, where might I look? Not much luck searching online since I don't know Spanish. Thanks in advance for any help!
I'll be checking into my hotel on Calle 56 on Thursday of this week. Since you're a regular member, I don't think you can do private messaging. I myself have never been to Colombia, but I've spent the past 8 weeks doing my homework. Here's a few suggestions for you.
1) As has been said time and time again. Read the forum. Go back at least a year and a half since older posts beyond that may reference places that are no longer in business.
2) Study World Travelers maps. Bogota is the third largest city in the America's and is quite spread out. You need to have a basic understanding of how the city is laid out and the grid of Calles vs. Carrerras.
3) Go to your local library or Barnes and Noble and again, read up on the city regarding all the regular stuff it has to offer. Since you're being set up with a local, seems you'll have a built in tourist guide that should help with logistics.
You need some Spanish, especially if you're solo, but again with a local wingman, he should have your back. Bogota is a cosmopolitan city, but English is not the primary language. You're in Colombia, it's Espańol! Some of the more touristy spots I'd assume will have English signage and bilingual staff, but the local girls may not speak a lick of English, so you better cram in some basic Spanish phrases to get some common understanding going.
Again, you need to go back at least 50 pages in this forum and do your reading. After that, you may have a few unanswered questions still, but there are many informative posts that should give you an idea of what to expect once you arrive.
[QUOTE=FrancoisUno;1773840]Gents,
Headed to Bogota for the first time. Visiting my cousin who is a pro athlete there, but he'll be traveling for my first two days so I'll be entertaining myself. He's setting me up with a local he knows who's supposed to be a savvy, cool fella, however I'd still be interested to hear some rec's if you gentlemen would be so kind.
Staying on calle 53 and know absolutely nothing about the city and speak no Spanish. Looking for a nice club to go to to have a good time where a solo guy wouldn't necessarily be out of place? If I did decide to indulge myself with a couple ladies, where might I look? Not much luck searching online since I don't know Spanish. Thanks in advance for any help![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1773984]I'll be checking into my hotel on Calle 56 on Thursday of this week. Since you're a regular member, I don't think you can do private messaging. I myself have never been to Colombia, but I've spent the past 8 weeks doing my homework. Here's a few suggestions for you.
1) As has been said time and time again. Read the forum. Go back at least a year and a half since older posts beyond that may reference places that are no longer in business.
2) Study World Travelers maps. Bogota is the third largest city in the America's and is quite spread out. You need to have a basic understanding of how the city is laid out and the grid of Calles vs. Carrerras.
3) Go to your local library or Barnes and Noble and again, read up on the city regarding all the regular stuff it has to offer. Since you're being set up with a local, seems you'll have a built in tourist guide that should help with logistics.
You need some Spanish, especially if you're solo, but again with a local wingman, he should have your back. Bogota is a cosmopolitan city, but English is not the primary language. You're in Colombia, it's Espaol! Some of the more touristy spots I'd assume will have English signage and bilingual staff, but the local girls may not speak a lick of English, so you better cram in some basic Spanish phrases to get some common understanding going.
Again, you need to go back at least 50 pages in this forum and do your reading. After that, you may have a few unanswered questions still, but there are many informative posts that should give you an idea of what to expect once you arrive.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply! Checked into my place on calle 53, so pretty close to you. Met up with the Colombian guy, pretty cool. We're going to hit up a spot later tonight, I'll let you know how it goes. Let me know if you want to link up after you arrive.
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Are there places in Bogota that you can recommend where the atmosphere is casual and there is availability of semi-pros, students, or pros that are interested in being with foreigners.
Just returned from a first time week in Bogota. Primary purpose behind the trip was to meet up for a few days with a chica I met in SXM, that lives in Ibague, which is a 3 hour bus ride from Bogota. Needless to say, we did connect and had a fairly good time. I'll spare everyone the details. She did meet me at the airport and we did spend a few days together. It was all right, but I wanted to experience the other offerings of the city and ended up salvaging a final few days to myself. I'm going to present this in bullet point form as to the Pros and Cons of Bogota for my initial visit. Be forewarned that some of my comments reflect my OPINION and may not necessarily be what you think or have experienced, so take what I write for what it's worth and remember that everyone is entitled to an opinion.
PRO's.
- Upon entry into the country, El Dorado Airport's new International Terminal is quite impressive. Clean, state of the art, and probably the safest place in Colombia!
- Citibank ATM right in the airport with English instructions and very good exchange rate. Contact your bank before leaving for Colombia and tell them you intend to use your ATM card in Colombia. Avoid using it for debit purchases though, since there are skimming / fraud problems that can happen.
- Best bang for your buck right now is Colombia. Look up the dollar vs. Peso rate and you'll see why.
- La Candaleria is a great tourist area. Oldest part of town, many cafes, restaurants and historical stuff to see.
- If you want to earn some points from the man upstairs after all the debauchery you partake in, visit Monsterrat on a Sunday. Be gutsy like me and walk up the 3000 meter plus incline trail. Totally safe on a Sunday. Vendors along the way selling food and drink. 2 dollar Poker beer comes out to like 66 cents or something like that. Historical Church at the summit. Unbelievable view, vendors, food, real party atmosphere. If you want a picture of yourself and a llama, this is for you! LOL!
- Centro area has great shopping. From high end / upscale stores to flea market type setups. I learned about the shopping from my novia.
- Transmilnio Bus system is pretty good. My chica had a card and I loaded 10000 mil on it and off we went. Just keep everything in your front pockets, since the buses get packed.
- This really isn't a pro, but more of an observation. The street signs are placed on the building at the corner of the Calle and Carrera intersection, so you have to kind of hunt them out to get your point of reference. Calles are streets running east to west, Carrerra's are avenues running north to south.
- I stayed at the Abitaire 56 Hotel in the Chapinero area (Calle 56). My chica friend checked in with me and there was no problem or extra charge, since I made the reservation for 2 and all they asked for was to make a copy of her passport as they did mine.
OK. So for fear of losing all I've typed I'm going to post this and come back with the Con's of Bogota. Again, from my perspective.
OK, so Bogota, isn't the Caribbean. But by the way, bring sunscreen! My face got roasted. Despite the coolness and the elevation. You're almost at the equator and the sun if super strong. Leave the shorts at home and bring a light jacket.
Cons.
- Bogota is huge in terms of land area. Although I did my fair share of walking, you'll need to either master the Transmilenio bus system, or rely on taxis. When you get picked up the meter should start a 25 and there should be a rate card in the pocket in the seat in front of you. There are surcharges though that you need to watch out for. I. e. If you go from one zone to another and some other BS. I think enough's been written about taxi's on this forum.
- Traffic. Too many cars, and if you don't watch out, you can get killed. You need to be super vigilant crossing any intersection and don't rely on the crosswalk light. Look both ways all the time. Aside from the cars, Bogota is motorbike / cycle central. They drive just as nuts as the taxi guys.
- Never, and I repeat never, rent a car in Bogota, unless you have a burning desire to experience having to utilize the Collision Damage Waiver aspect of the insurance coverage. I saw the back end of no less than a half dozen accidents during the time I was there.
- You can get seriously hurt by just walking down the street. There are tons of electrical utility box covers that are off leaving good sized holes in the sidewalk that go down far enough for you to either break or twist an ankle of fall flat on your face. Watch where you walk.
- The people. I found them to be impersonal and not friendly at all. I was the only gringo in Chapinero from what I saw. I was basically ignored and when I tried to engage someone in Spanish, they were very standoffish. I only encountered a few people that could speak any English. These people were cordial, but for the most part, I didn't get a warm and fuzzy feeling from the locals.
- Dogs. Colombians, and especially the security firms, have a fascination with aggressive breed dogs and they love to showcase them with muzzles on them. This was somewhat intimidating.
- Santa Fe. Needless to say, as someone posted on here in the past, it's a dump. I will give a separate post with more details.
- Casas in Chapinaro, Calle's 60 and north. Went to one on Calle 71. Chica Millenio or something to that effect. It had a bunch of guys hanging out in front and this was 10 in the morning. Guy asked me if I were looking for chicas and I didn't have a good vibe to the area so I said no. Was in somewhat of a residential area near a college type building.
- The mezzanine near Dann Carlton Hotel. Checked this place out my last day en route to the airport. Sampled the goods in one of the establishments. Talk about a broom closet! You've got to be kidding me! Talent was about the best I saw my entire trip. Actually the best talent I saw was at the airport, probably leaving Bogota and going to SXM or somewhere else.
I rise early and made it a point to be back in my hotel by sundown, since Chapinero can be somewhat seedy itself. I can cross Colombia off my bucket list and be proud to say I survived without any MAJOR incident, but I'll get to that in my Sante Fe report. I can see why the real hotties want to go elsewhere since there's more money to be made outside of Colombia. The chica I was with in the mezzanine, quoted 100,000 mil for full service and I didn't even question it, since $35 bucks it what is was going to come out to, and I needed to ditch pesos, before I left the country.
I don't think I'll be returning to Bogota, but it does offer some cultural attractions and I'm sure at night, things pick up in the clubs, but quite frankly, I didn't want to deal with the unknowns, being a first time visitor.
Hope some of this is helpful and be safe in Colombia!
So after I "shed" my novia, I decided to walk from Calle 56 down to Santa Fe this past Saturday. I felt pretty comfortable about the walk down Carrera 14 since the Transmilenio went through it and I had scouted the route out taking the bus with my novia to La Candaleria the day before. I had no problem making the walk to Santa Fe, aside from just being vigilant about crossing every street, looking out for traffic. Again, I can't reiterate enough, you can very easily get hit by a car / taxi / sport motorcycle if you don't pay attention.
So I make it to Santa Fe and I'm not impressed. Place smells, is dirty and since it's a Saturday, it's a zoo. Hold that thought about it being a zoo on a Saturday. The complexion will change drastically in a couple of days. So since the place is so busy, I blend in rather well wearing black jeans, black T-shirt, light black jacket and black sneakers. I walk around and go places I probalby shouldn't have and have no problem. I find a little supermarket called Danny's Supermercado and the lady working there is nice and it's 2000 mil for a beer which she had to unlock the freezer to get for me, but this became my HQ or Fortress of Solitude, since I knew her price schedule and she was a good vendor. (Again, we're talking less than a buck for a beer, takeout).
Now since it was a Saturday it was very busy in Santa Fe. But what was different was that tons of guys on the sport bikes, (not Harley's), were driving around like idiots scoping out the chicas standing outside of what appeared to be parking garages. It was a traffic nightmare and more of a nightmare to try to cross the street. I'm walking around and quite frankly, nothing interested me. It would be a stretch to say there was a six out there during the day. The talent level was very disappointing and quite frankly, I still can't figure out how the system works, nor did I have any interest in finding out.
Now I arrived in Santa Fe around noon and now I've pounded quite a few beers and need to take a leak. The clubs such as Atunes, Friebe, etc. On Carrerra 16 aren't open yet, so I'm looking for somewhere to take a whiz. I walk down toward Calle 19 and notice I've entered the tranny zone but see a small bar with it's door open, so I figure I'd duck in, buy a beer and take a leak. A tranny follows me in and propositions me, I say no gracias, and then she goes to the hallway adjoining the bar to what appeared to be the entrance to their short term hotel where they do their business. Anyway, I order a beer, spy the urinal and take a much needed leak for 2500 mil, beer included. Now I'm looking around and the place is full of guys and some are watching some Colombian comedy show on TV and others are gazing upwards and I notice they've got a TV placed up on the second floor showing tranny porn. I finish my beer take another leak and off I go. I scout around the 22 and 23 Calles and again, nothing I would even give any thought to.
Around the corner there is some commotion going on. Some locals getting into it, but for all the "Police" patrols in Santa Fe during the day, nobody can be found. So while on that subject let's talk about the "Police".
There are several layers of police in Colombia. National Police which you see at the airport, Military Police because Bogota is after all the capital, Dignitary police, helping with escorting diplomats, real police, those that carry a weapon, and the junior cadet, crossing guard, want to be police, that have a fluorescent vest on and carry a nightstick, but act like girls in a brothel checking there cell phones all the time.
Santa Fe is patrolled by the crossing guard police, which are about as useful as tits on a bull. You'll see why in my next post.
So now the hour is a bit past 2 pm And from what I read, that's when some of the clubs open up. I head over to Atunes, which is now open and I'm greeted like a celebrity and there's no one there, since the club just opened. I found all the other joints mentioned here, but guess I was too early to get a full appreciation. The street scene / window? Scene didn't impress me at all, so after a couple of hours circling the same blocks, I opted to head back to my hotel, with no interest in returning at night either by foot or taxi, although it would have been taxi for sure.
I might have missed out on the first team later in the evening, but if they were anything like the day shift, I'm glad I did.
OK, so now after having experienced Santa Fe this past Saturday, and taken a respite from the mongering scene by climbing Montserrat on Sunday, I decided to check Santa Fe district out during the day, again this past Monday. I walk my usual route and get to Santa Fe, but am surprised how few people are there for a Monday vs. The Saturday. The place is somewhat of a ghost town but traffic is still heavy for a block on Calle 23 with taxi drivers gawking at the talent standing out on the street. So now here's where the wheels started to fall off for me.
I get to the center of the action and there's a panhandler in the street that locks on to me and says, hey, gringo, give me some money for food (in Spanish). I ignore him and zig and zag my way out of there. I'm amazed at how desolate the place is compared to 2 days previously. Now for point of reference, it's about 12:15 pm In the afternoon, broad daylight. There were some chicas out and some might have been new, but I decided to wander down to Danny's supermarket and grab a beer to have in hand for my tour. What I did notice was a high concentration of tranny's that had moved north from their usual spot and how they had skillfully tried to integrate themselves in amongst the girls working out of the parking garages.
So just before I go into Danny's to grab a can of Aguila (local beer), some crack head tranny makes eye contact with me and is on me like flies on shit. "It" starts rambling on in Spanish, I duck in to by my beer with 20000 mil and "it" sees me getting change. I stay in the store a bit thinking "it" will move along and this son of a * is waiting for me outside. I leave and head up toward where more people are and this piece of shit won't go away. I keep saying, no gracias, no gracias and get to a real busy area, thinking "it" will tale off, and no, this scumbag is still up my ass. Now I'm feeling agitated and decide to head to the Avenue with traffic and potentially crossing guard cops. I make it out to the Avenue and start heading north and this crackhead tranny is still telling me to give "it" money. Now I'm pissed and see two "police" ahead. I yell at "it" and say and getting the police and "it" is still not phasesd. So I get to the 2 police cadets and tell them that this piece of shit is harassing me and get "it" off my back. They stare at me like deer in the headlights. I continue walking north and still can't shake this jerk and now notice "it's" got a bottle of mace / pepper spray in it's hand threatening me. I could have taken this POS out with one punch to the face or broken the skinny bitches arm to get it to drop the pepper spray, but in a fleeting moment, it dawned on me, that how would it look if I punched out a Colombian tranny. I'd be charged with assault. And trust me after the way things turned out, it was the right move to restrain myself.
So seeing "it" being aggressive with pepper spray in hand I decide to turn around and head back to the two dumbfounded "police". Now we've got a full fledged incident going on. She's screaming, I feel totally unprotected by the cops from a legal perspective (I'm 6'2" but this tranny saw me eye to eye) so I'm not looking for them to protect me, I just want them to get this idiot off my back. I giving my best in Spanish explaining that this thing is harassing me and these wannabe kid cops are looking at me like I've got 3 heads.
Now this just so happens outside a guy who had an upholstery shop and he's taking everything in. I look to him ask him if he speaks any English, he says yes, I explain that I was just walking and this crackhead is all over me. He tells me to go use the bathroom in the back of his shop, meaning he's trying to help diffuse the situation, as now we have 6 police cadets appear and a mob scene brewing.
I go to the back of his store and his wife and sister come to me and say, just pay her and get rid of her? Pay "it", for what? I didn't do anything wrong. Now we're up to 9 police cadets and they are offering me nothing in terms of covering my back or being my advocate.
The store owner comes back to me and says that I owe this Tranny for a blowjob she gave me and that I didn't pay and she won't leave until she's paid. I say what? You've got to be fucking kidding me? I'm angry and laughing at the same time to think that these fucking idiotic kid cops would think that I would stoop so low as to let this potentially AIDS infected crackhead anywhere near my junk.
So now we've got a Mexican standoff and the only person at this point that I have any respect for is the shipowner. Since he was cool about telling me to go use his bathroom to get me away from the situation, I now say to him I don't understand totally and hand him my cheat pad with pen and say "escribe por favor". He writes in English to me that to make this go away, give the fucking tranny 8 bucks, bite the bullet and that will get these cops off your back and I know you didn't do anything wrong. Now remember I just bought a beer for 2000 mil so I think if I pull out 8 mil on the button, they're going to further believe "it's" story. So I grab 10000 mil and slap it in the cops hand and for all that theatrics, it was one hell of a show for about three dollars and 33 cents.
What a f*cking scam, extortion game. I know the money is negligible, but it's the principle. At no point was I asked for my passport or any identification, which one would think would be the first thing these cops would ask for to validate my identity. It was almost as if they've seen this game played before.
Bottom line, I had this impression before this happened, and unless the 10's come out at night, or even a bevy of 8's, avoid Santa Fe. Just my opinion from a seasoned world traveler.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1778107]OK, so now after having experienced Santa Fe this past Saturday, and taken a respite from the mongering scene by climbing Montserrat on Sunday, I decided to check Santa Fe district out during the day, again this past Monday. I walk my usual route and get to Santa Fe, but am surprised how few people are there for a Monday vs. The Saturday. The place is somewhat of a ghost town but traffic is still heavy for a block on Calle 23 with taxi drivers gawking at the talent standing out on the street. So now here's where the wheels started to fall off for me.
I get to the center of the action and there's a panhandler in the street that locks on to me and says, hey, gringo, give me some money for food (in Spanish). I ignore him and zig and zag my way out of there. I'm amazed at how desolate the place is compared to 2 days previously. Now for point of reference, it's about 12:15 pm In the afternoon, broad daylight. There were some chicas out and some might have been new, but I decided to wander down to Danny's supermarket and grab a beer to have in hand for my tour. What I did notice was a high concentration of tranny's that had moved north from their usual spot and how they had skillfully tried to integrate themselves in amongst the girls working out of the parking garages.
So just before I go into Danny's to grab a can of Aguila (local beer), some crack head tranny makes eye contact with me and is on me like flies on shit. "It" starts rambling on in Spanish, I duck in to by my beer with 20000 mil and "it" sees me getting change. I stay in the store a bit thinking "it" will move along and this son of a * is waiting for me outside. I leave and head up toward where more people are and this piece of shit won't go away. I keep saying, no gracias, no gracias and get to a real busy area, thinking "it" will tale off, and no, this scumbag is still up my ass. Now I'm feeling agitated and decide to head to the Avenue with traffic and potentially crossing guard cops. I make it out to the Avenue and start heading north and this crackhead tranny is still telling me to give "it" money. Now I'm pissed and see two "police" ahead. I yell at "it" and say and getting the police and "it" is still not phasesd. So I get to the 2 police cadets and tell them that this piece of shit is harassing me and get "it" off my back. They stare at me like deer in the headlights. I continue walking north and still can't shake this jerk and now notice "it's" got a bottle of mace / pepper spray in it's hand threatening me...[/QUOTE]First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
Second, this board points out that Sanfate is not the best, unless you fully understand the underground and dirty scene that is beyond "paisas" and the other places in that are and the best to avoid any of this is to be with a local.
[QUOTE=PeterSmith;1777714]Are there places in Bogota that you can recommend where the atmosphere is casual and there is availability of semi-pros, students, or pros that are interested in being with foreigners.[/QUOTE]Zona T (zona rosa)(specifically for students).
Obviously, you have no clue about American phrases and terms and what their underlying meaning is. And since you appear to be clueless, this had nothing to do with Mexicans. Next, you obviously didn't read my post or understand it, since I didn't deserve to be harassed for just walking down a street. My trip reports were intended to be informative and useful for others so they can learn from members previous experiences and be further armed with as much intel as possible, in the event they decided to venture to Santa Fe. I suggest that you give your fingers a rest and post only when you have something of value to give back to the board.
[QUOTE=PipiLoco;1778212]First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
Second, this board points out that Sanfate is not the best, unless you fully understand the underground and dirty scene that is beyond "paisas" and the other places in that are and the best to avoid any of this is to be with a local.[/QUOTE]
Very sorry ClubTed for your bad experience. I came also to Colombia after my amazing experiences in SXM, but that was nearly 10 years ago. At that time traffic was not the issue it is now, there were very few foreigners who dared to come to Colombia and girls looked at me in the street with open mouth. I had the blast of my life and felt in love of the country forever. I guess it was also because I was 10 years younger. I now live here, love the country, the people, the food, the culture, the music, the party atmosfere. Bogota has changed a lot however, traffic made the people change in stressed and unpolite people, foreigners are not as exotic anymore as it used to be. Another reason of your bad experience is that you hardly speak spanish. Without spanish you lose 90% of the interaction with the people which is the best part of Colombia and dangerous situations get easily out of hand.
I don't want to look as if I'm giving lessons, but Sante Fe just is one of the most dangerous areas in Colombia. Yes, Colombia is not as dangerous as it is used to be, you will not get kidnapped or killed by guerilla, but petty crime and scams have an extremely high rate. Going as a foreigner, first timer, alone, and without speaking spanish in the zona de tolerencia is just looking for trouble. It just isn't worth it. The experience you will get in SXM, Curacao or Aruba is way better than Santa Fe. There is a simple reason for that: in the Caribbean, the girls are alone, far from their country and their family and have deep emotional needs. Going to Colombia just for the pro scene is not worth it.
Learn Spanish, meet the girls you met in SXM in their normal life, do a couple of all nighter from the upper scale clubs, try the amateur scene, get out of Bogota and you will have the experience of your life in Colombia.
Thanks for the reply Routard! I remember reading many of your posts on the SXM board. Aside from the one incident I enjoyed Colombia and had no other problems. Yes there are tons of cars and I figured out that the people walking around wearing surgical masks, weren't medical professionals. They're trying to preserve their lungs due to what I assume is the poor air quality. Their are many walking around with surgical masks. First I thought there was some epidemic going around. LOL! I speak enough Spanish to get by. I just ran into the wrong whack job this past Monday. In retrospect, I should have given "it" 2000 mil when I left the mercado and that might have done the trick. But hey, then I wouldn't have had a story to tell, would I?
This past Sunday, they closed down Carrerra 7 (southbound) and it was loaded with joggers and bicyclists. I walked from Calle 56 (my hotel) all the way down to the base of Montserrat. Didn't see the Cable car working, so I decided to do the pilgrimage and walk up the path to the summit. Made it to the top, hung out for a bit, then made the descent and walked all the way back to my hotel at Calle 56 without incident.
Again, had it not been for this one isolated incident this past Monday, I would have pulled off a flawless trip. I just wanted to share my story, so that others could take note and be forewarned about what they might get themselves into by going to Santa Fe. Again, it was like two different Santa Fe's. Saturday vs. Monday. Whether you're in Bogota, or NYC, if you run into a desperate crackhead tranny at the wrong time, shit can happen anywhere.
Thanks for reaching out and glad you're doing well in Colombia! As for me. I prefer walking around in shorts and a tank top, so SXM might be calling me next month!
[QUOTE=Routard;1778328]Very sorry ClubTed for your bad experience. I came also to Colombia after my amazing experiences in SXM, but that was nearly 10 years ago. At that time traffic was not the issue it is now, there were very few foreigners who dared to come to Colombia and girls looked at me in the street with open mouth. I had the blast of my life and felt in love of the country forever. I guess it was also because I was 10 years younger. I now live here, love the country, the people, the food, the culture, the music, the party atmosfere. Bogota has changed a lot however, traffic made the people change in stressed and unpolite people, foreigners are not as exotic anymore as it used to be. Another reason of your bad experience is that you hardly speak spanish. Without spanish you lose 90% of the interaction with the people which is the best part of Colombia and dangerous situations get easily out of hand.
I don't want to look as if I'm giving lessons, but Sante Fe just is one of the most dangerous areas in Colombia. Yes, Colombia is not as dangerous as it is used to be, you will not get kidnapped or killed by guerilla, but petty crime and scams have an extremely high rate..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PipiLoco;1778212]First and for most what Mexicans had to do with this situation and if you were using the term "mexicans" to point out two Colombians arguing / talking then sir you deserve what just happen to you.
[/QUOTE]So funny, I had to respond.
The guy, ClubTed, said he was in a Mexican standoff.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1778107]
So now we've got a Mexican standoff and the only person at this point that I have any respect for is the shipowner. [/QUOTE]
It's an expression, not a put down.
Wikipedia dictionary:
"A Mexican standoff is a confrontation between at least three parties in which no party can proceed nor retreat without being exposed to danger".
No reason to get all angry over a common expression dude, Lol
[QUOTE=Ricker;1778345]So funny, I had to respond.
The guy, ClubTed, said he was in a Mexican standoff.
It's an expression, not a put down.
Wikipedia dictionary:
"A Mexican standoff is a confrontation between at least three parties in which no party can proceed nor retreat without being exposed to danger".
No reason to get all angry over a common expression dude, Lol[/QUOTE]I apologize, guess I didn't read far enough to get the whole thing. Moving on with the Santa Fe situation, yes that section is pretty bad mainly because a lot of the organize crime "meetings" if you could say that take place among other underground (guns purchases, gun exchange, drugs and money laundering) stuff, sometimes take place during the night at the places such as paisas. But everything is not bad, a lot of the 8-10 girl will go there (mainly from Medellin and Cali) and you could score big for not much and not just your typical 20 m action.
Hey Club Ted. Thanks for the great reports. I really appreciate your information since, like you have done, I have been contemplating venturing away from SXM on some future mongering trip. While I have considered Aruba and Curacao, I did meet a very lovely (and talented) chica earlier this year in SXM and was giving serious consideration to paying a visit to the fatherland. Although I surely would like to spend some quality time in Bogota with my "novia" I would like to have the chance to venture out solo to test the waters too. Now I am a little hesitant to possibly have my time spoiled by some unfortunate incident such as the one you described. Having spent quite some time in Peru and Bolivia many years ago I still am comfortable with speaking Spanish. This may or may not, however, be of help in resolving a tricky situation as you have presented. Who knows. Like you said you could run into problems anywhere but in NYC or here in LA I'm sure you nor I are too likely to place ourselves in a location that could lead to similar problems.
In spite of my intentions to be a bit more adventurous, I resisted the urge am planning on another visit to SXM. While a visit to Colombia is still on the bucket list the fact that I am now very comfortable visiting the casas on SXM, knowing kind of how things work, the relative ease of "point and shoot" mongering on the island sounds more and more appealing. We will see. If I am fortunate enough to repeat the fantastic experiences I've had with the ladies on SXM in the past, the urge to go seek more in Bogota could still be in the cards.
Damn, didn't know you were in Bogota through Monday. I was there Sunday night until Tuesday morning. I was in Santa Fe on Monday from about 4 PM until 9:30 PM at night, I should have hit you up. Sorry you had a bad experience, I actually had a good time this past Monday but you have to hit the right clubs at the right time. Atunes was actually good (not great) in the late afternoon, and La Piscina had a few beautiful chicas in the early evening. El Castillo was the last place I hit up and was absolutely solid, but you left before it opens at 8 PM. I honestly think if you had hit up more of the clubs later in the evening, you would have liked it more but if your experience earlier in the day isn't going well then I can understand why you wouldn't want to give it a shot at night either. Santa Fe is going to be one of those places where you either have the tolerance for the negative things, or you simply don't and it leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
I went to Chicas Milenio as well, I want to say about 10-12 chicas and 3 that I would say are very good looking. The rest were mostly OK, I selected a tall chica for an hour. Price was 100 k for an hour which included BBBJ, DFK, CFS, and Anal. The only thing she offered extra was BBBJ which I paid 40 k for, the standard rate was 60 k for an hour that included CBJ and CFS. It was my first time there, and it is directly across from Chicas 2000. It's one block down from one of the universities, fairly easy to locate and there are a couple guys standing outside the casas that will give you the hint you're at the right place.
Bogota is definitely not easy, and it's a city that can overwhelm people. The traffic is horrible, but the Transmilenio works for me and this time around I stayed at the JW Marriott on Calle 73. Very nice hotel and in a location which has some good eating options within walking distance. At night though (especially on a Sunday night), it gets quiet enough to where it might be better to take a taxi. Security at the hotel was pretty tight too especially during the day, and it was quite busy. You can walk to the Transmilenio station in maybe 12-15 minutes and Chicas 2000/ Milenio is right near the station as well. Made it easy to go from there to Santa Fe although the buses were packed, as always.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1778342]Thanks for the reply Routard! I remember reading many of your posts on the SXM board. Aside from the one incident I enjoyed Colombia and had no other problems. Yes there are tons of cars and I figured out that the people walking around wearing surgical masks, weren't medical professionals. They're trying to preserve their lungs due to what I assume is the poor air quality. Their are many walking around with surgical masks. First I thought there was some epidemic going around. LOL! I speak enough Spanish to get by. I just ran into the wrong whack job this past Monday. In retrospect, I should have given "it" 2000 mil when I left the mercado and that might have done the trick. But hey, then I wouldn't have had a story to tell, would I?
This past Sunday, they closed down Carrerra 7 (southbound) and it was loaded with joggers and bicyclists. I walked from Calle 56 (my hotel) all the way down to the base of Montserrat. Didn't see the Cable car working, so I decided to do the pilgrimage and walk up the path to the summit. Made it to the top, hung out for a bit, then made the descent and walked all the way back to my hotel at Calle 56 without incident.
Again, had it not been for this one isolated incident this past Monday, I would have pulled off a flawless trip. I just wanted to share my story, so that others could take note and be forewarned about what they might get themselves into by going to Santa Fe. Again, it was like two different Santa Fe's. Saturday vs. Monday. Whether you're in Bogota, or NYC, if you run into a desperate crackhead tranny at the wrong time, shit can happen anywhere.
Thanks for reaching out and glad you're doing well in Colombia! As for me. I prefer walking around in shorts and a tank top, so SXM might be calling me next month![/QUOTE]
Ted,
Parts of your story are hilarious. Some good lessons there for all of us. However, for a seasoned traveler I think you made a few errors. One, by basically running from the tranny you became prey. Two, nobody says "no gracias", I believe waving your index finger back and forth saying "no moleste", would probably have worked better. In any case you should have talked to her / him and to diffuse the situation. Once you realized 'it' wasn't going to give up, I would have said that I just finished up with a girl and won't be ready for a while but here's 5000 pesos, (less then $2) go have a beer on me. I really believed it would have worked better. I have been confronted a time or two by aggressive panhandlers and putas in Santa fe always stood up to them and spoke firmly and they eventually got the message. Also, you expected the cops to protect you from a tranny?? Remember you are in a city where they see people getting shot and stabbed on the street for their cell phone daily, protecting a gringo sex tourist from a tranny is little more then amusement for them. As far as the most dangerous place in Colombia goes, I believe it to be Buenaventura, I know some Colombians who must go there for business on occasion and they won't even go out for dinner at night, they order delivery to the hotel. All in all I love Colombia and Bogota. The traffic has become intolerable from the 70's to the park 93 area, especially with some recent road closures in the area, so I try to stay in Chico Navarre area around CL. 109. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Thanks for your input. In retrospect, you are correct, I could of / should of handled things differently. Just didn't expect the tag-along to go beyond a block, and especially during broad daylight. And the can of pepper spray / mace wasn't expected, but I guess it was better than a knife! This was my maiden voyage to Bogota, and I garnered a ton of intel and feel much better equipped to make a return trip, if I were to do so. Nothing against Bogota, but the urban setting just doesn't do it for me. Kind of thought I was in New York City. I'm a tropical, shorts and tank top guy and love the water and a place with a pool, and unfortunately, Bogota doesn't offer that. But I'm glad I checked out Colombia. That's more than anything anybody that's plopped down on a barstool in their local tavern can say! And I had the balls to do it by myself. I have enough frequent flyer miles to cover a free flight to the Caribbean or back to Colombia. SXM is my honey hole, but have Curacao on the bucket list, but have read mixed reviews about the lineup and read they bumped the price up as well. Maybe I'll return to Bogota and try to reclaim my 10000 mil, wouldn't that be a hoot! LOL! ClubTed OUT!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1778618]Ted,
Parts of your story are hilarious. Some good lessons there for all of us. However, for a seasoned traveler I think you made a few errors. One, by basically running from the tranny you became prey. Two, nobody says "no gracias", I believe waving your index finger back and forth saying "no moleste", would probably have worked better. In any case you should have talked to her / him and to diffuse the situation. Once you realized 'it' wasn't going to give up, I would have said that I just finished up with a girl and won't be ready for a while but here's 5000 pesos, (less then $2) go have a beer on me. I really believed it would have worked better. I have been confronted a time or two by aggressive panhandlers and putas in Santa fe always stood up to them and spoke firmly and they eventually got the message. Also, you expected the cops to protect you from a tranny?? Remember you are in a city where they see people getting shot and stabbed on the street for their cell phone daily, protecting a gringo sex tourist from a tranny is little more then amusement for them. As far as the most dangerous place in Colombia goes, I believe it to be Buenaventura, I know some Colombians who must go there for business on occasion and they won't even go out for dinner at night, they order delivery to the hotel. All in all I love Colombia and Bogota. The traffic has become intolerable from the 70's to the park 93 area, especially with some recent road closures in the area, so I try to stay in Chico Navarre area around CL. 109. Thanks for sharing your experience.[/QUOTE]
We should thank ClubTed for his honesty in what could be perceived as an embarrassing incident. It actually sounds very funny in print, but I bet it was kind of scary when it actually happened.
I think you did alright, you shouldn't totally cross off Santa Fe. You probably bit more than you can chew because the street scene in Santa Fe is definitely more intense than similar street areas in Medellin, and solid Spanish is pretty much a necessity (in my opinion) to play the street game safely and the right way.
So I'd say just avoid the street scene for now and check out the famous night spots in the early evening (Paisas, Piscina, Castillo). These venues can get pretty pricey compared to the daytime street scene, but basically you cab it there and back to your place (or a nearby love motel if you don't want to do the girl in-house) so there's no real security issue, you're not walking around alone at night.
I'm surprised you didn't check out La Forty-Nine; it's a famous spot on Calle 49 (get it?) near where you where staying in Chapinero. Would have been a quick, cheap, and easy cab ride there and back. The club itself is not cheap, especially if you're coming in with the first-time gringo vibe, but I still think it's worth a visit. It's a fun, safe place to go and I've even had a delicious meal (one of those Colombian stews) there at 3 in the morning.
Going back to your incident, I have to point out the Danny supermercado is a known corner where some trannies hang. It's true their main "drag" (pun intended) is a block down starting at the corner of Carrera 16 and Calle 20 going down to Calle 19 but they also hang at the corner of Calle 21 where the Danny mini-mart is located. I've even seen some YouTube videos showing this.
Your mistake was hanging out too long in this area. You might give off a vibe of a type of gringo who's interested in trannies but is not ready yet to pull the trigger so to speak.
Also, this is more of an advanced psychology thing, so I don't blame you if you didn't know this, but never lock eyes with anyone you think might be a bit cracked in the head or is whacked out on drugs. They will latch onto you no matter what you say or do! I learned this the hard way myself with a crazy dude in the New York city subway; my incident was not as bad as yours, but I was kicking myself later at my error.
It's okay (important even) to establish brief eye contact with young guys walking your way (alone or in pairs) in Santa Fe and similar street areas. Just look at them briefly, put your hands in your jean or jacket pockets, and keep walking at the same pace nonchalantly. That lets them know you're not an easy mark or target.
As for the money thing, it's a tough call. If you plan to visit a street scene regularly, you don't want to be known as the gringo who gives free tips just because a bum or other character comes up to you and asks for a gift. But with today's exchange rates, it's not really so bad is it? It's important to carry a bunch of 1 and 2 thousand peso bills, not just as tips for taxistas, but for these kinds of situations. Even just tossing that tranny crackhead a coin or two might have been enough to shake him out of his obsession with you.
I'll admit that if a guy asks me for some change, and I'm in a situation where I feel a bit "cornered," I'll handle it like this: shrug my shoulders while digging into my pocket with the small bills, carefully taking out ONE bill while not showing any other, and just give it to the guy without looking at him. I don't say a word or establish eye contact. Then I try to leave the area as quickly as possible (in case it's a mark type of situation for a robbery).
Overall, good advice. I personally walk around Santa Fe wearing a non-branded jacket, basic jeans, and casual / tennis shoes with my hands in my pockets, and I blend in fine. During the day and early evening you'll see plenty of people walking around even in suits. And a person really needs to walk with some authority and look like they know where they are going. I had missed a turn on my very first to Santa Fe a few months back and walked into the Tranny area, did so for a couple blocks before I walked into a supermarket and looked at google maps on my phone (do this discretely and in a store / restaurant always for less visibility). Went down a street and over in the opposite direction to get back on track as I figured going the immediate opposite direction would make me walk by people I had walked by before, and possibly increase the risk for me and I wanted to give the impression that I knew where I was going. That's just how I think anyways. I also don't like to get stopped on the streets by anyone, whether they are trying to sell something, ask for something, even if it's just some money for whatever purpose. I keep walking at my normal pace, I'm sure that some pickpocketers work in teams and it's possible that they will use someone on the street to create a small distraction to stop a person. This is the way I look at these things in Colombia however, and others may view it differently and might be OK with giving a mil peso or two mils to diffuse a situation, and it really is a small amount. I prefer to get off the transmilenio stop and walk around the 2-3 blocks in Santa Fe, and I don't have any issues. I think knowing where the transmilenio stop is, is probably going to be your best bet if you think you're being followed or harassed by someone. The riders don't want to see disruptions and annoyances, and neither do the "police" that patrol the stops. At least in my experience.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;1779033]We should thank ClubTed for his honesty in what could be perceived as an embarrassing incident. It actually sounds very funny in print, but I bet it was kind of scary when it actually happened.
I think you did alright, you shouldn't totally cross off Santa Fe. You probably bit more than you can chew because the street scene in Santa Fe is definitely more intense than similar street areas in Medellin, and solid Spanish is pretty much a necessity (in my opinion) to play the street game safely and the right way.
So I'd say just avoid the street scene for now and check out the famous night spots in the early evening (Paisas, Piscina, Castillo). These venues can get pretty pricey compared to the daytime street scene, but basically you cab it there and back to your place (or a nearby love motel if you don't want to do the girl in-house) so there's no real security issue, you're not walking around alone at night.
I'm surprised you didn't check out La Forty-Nine; it's a famous spot on Calle 49 (get it?) near where you where staying in Chapinero. Would have been a quick, cheap, and easy cab ride there and back. The club itself is not cheap, especially if you're coming in with the first-time gringo vibe, but I still think it's worth a visit. It's a fun, safe place to go and I've even had a delicious meal (one of those Colombian stews) there at 3 in the morning.
Going back to your incident, I have to point out the Danny supermercado is a known corner where some trannies hang. It's true their main "drag" (pun intended) is a block down starting at the corner of Carrera 16 and Calle 20 going down to Calle 19 but they also hang at the corner of Calle 21 where the Danny mini-mart is located. I've even seen some YouTube videos showing this.
Your mistake was hanging out too long in this area. You might give off a vibe of a type of gringo who's interested in trannies but is not ready yet to pull the trigger so to speak.
Also, this is more of an advanced psychology thing, so I don't blame you if you didn't know this, but never lock eyes with anyone you think might be a bit cracked in the head or is whacked out on drugs. They will latch onto you no matter what you say or do! I learned this the hard way myself with a crazy dude in the New York city subway; my incident was not as bad as yours, but I was kicking myself later at my error.
It's okay (important even) to establish brief eye contact with young guys walking your way (alone or in pairs) in Santa Fe and similar street areas. Just look at them briefly, put your hands in your jean or jacket pockets, and keep walking at the same pace nonchalantly. That lets them know you're not an easy mark or target.
As for the money thing, it's a tough call. If you plan to visit a street scene regularly, you don't want to be known as the gringo who gives free tips just because a bum or other character comes up to you and asks for a gift. But with today's exchange rates, it's not really so bad is it? It's important to carry a bunch of 1 and 2 thousand peso bills, not just as tips for taxistas, but for these kinds of situations. Even just tossing that tranny crackhead a coin or two might have been enough to shake him out of his obsession with you.
I'll admit that if a guy asks me for some change, and I'm in a situation where I feel a bit "cornered," I'll handle it like this: shrug my shoulders while digging into my pocket with the small bills, carefully taking out ONE bill while not showing any other, and just give it to the guy without looking at him. I don't say a word or establish eye contact. Then I try to leave the area as quickly as possible (in case it's a mark type of situation for a robbery).[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Somebody could explain me where are located and how are named brothels (No lap dance, gentleman clubs or silly places like that!) of Bogotá where you can pay 10-30 euro per 1 hour? Is it Santa Fe? Do you know if there are some specialized to offer black girls?
Again, somebody could gently recommend me an hotel close to brothels for 30-60 euro per night?
Thank you very much.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1778904]Thanks for your input. In retrospect, you are correct, I could of / should of handled things differently. Just didn't expect the tag-along to go beyond a block, and especially during broad daylight. And the can of pepper spray / mace wasn't expected, but I guess it was better than a knife! This was my maiden voyage to Bogota, and I garnered a ton of intel and feel much better equipped to make a return trip, if I were to do so. Nothing against Bogota, but the urban setting just doesn't do it for me. Kind of thought I was in New York City. I'm a tropical, shorts and tank top guy and love the water and a place with a pool, and unfortunately, Bogota doesn't offer that. But I'm glad I checked out Colombia. That's more than anything anybody that's plopped down on a barstool in their local tavern can say! And I had the balls to do it by myself. I have enough frequent flyer miles to cover a free flight to the Caribbean or back to Colombia. SXM is my honey hole, but have Curacao on the bucket list, but have read mixed reviews about the lineup and read they bumped the price up as well. Maybe I'll return to Bogota and try to reclaim my 10000 mil, wouldn't that be a hoot! LOL! ClubTed OUT![/QUOTE]Now is a good time to visit Curacao believe me, I just left but will be back.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1779681]Went down a street and over in the opposite direction to get back on track as I figured going the immediate opposite direction would make me walk by people I had walked by before, and possibly increase the risk for me and I wanted to give the impression that I knew where I was going. That's just how I think anyways. I also don't like to get stopped on the streets by anyone, whether they are trying to sell something, ask for something, even if it's just some money for whatever purpose. I keep walking at my normal pace, I'm sure that some pickpocketers work in teams and it's possible that they will use someone on the street to create a small distraction to stop a person. This is the way I look at these things in Colombia however, and others may view it differently and might be OK with giving a mil peso or two mils to diffuse a situation, and it really is a small amount. I prefer to get off the transmilenio stop and walk around the 2-3 blocks in Santa Fe, and I don't have any issues. I think knowing where the transmilenio stop is, is probably going to be your best bet if you think you're being followed or harassed by someone. The riders don't want to see disruptions and annoyances, and neither do the "police" that patrol the stops. At least in my experience.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the extra tips, I should have thought of those.
If you walk back and forth the same street, it'll look like you're searching for your favorite chica or dealer; but if you're new to the scene, it could just look like you're lost.
Knowing how to quickly get back to the Transmilenio is a good idea. It's definitely true the bad guys work in bands, although they usually do so in crowded areas where Colombians do their street shopping. They will definitely use a distraction tactic, many times with a pretty chica trying to talk to you or ask you something. In Santa Fe, the general rule is that the chicas stand or sit around and you do the approach and take the initiative. So if a chica approaches you be careful, something might not be right.
Start here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/url]
Santa Fe will be your cheapest area.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1779731]Hi guys,
Somebody could explain me where are located and how are named brothels (No lap dance, gentleman clubs or silly places like that!) of Bogota where you can pay 10-30 euro per 1 hour? Is it Santa Fe? Do you know if there are some specialized to offer black girls?
Again, somebody could gently recommend me an hotel close to brothels for 30-60 euro per night?
Thank you very much.[/QUOTE]
May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1780168]Start here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/url]
Santa Fe will be your cheapest area.[/QUOTE]
Sad news, 65 year old New Yorker was shot and killed after being stopped and resisting a robbery attempt. Ocurred a couple of days ago just one block away from the mansion.
After all recent discussions of the dangers in Santa Fe, heed the warnings, follow the advices and be careful out there. More information and many good tips for safety in the Medellin reports thread.
[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002[/URL]
Alright so you're not RTFF clearly, but I'll give you some quick answers starting bottom up.
1. Stay in Zona Rosa if it's your first visit. Don't stay in Santa Fe or near Santa Fe. Chapinero is fine. Don't walk around late at night and by yourself. Santa Fe is the red light district, it's run-down, it's shady, but it's not a huge area. Maybe 2-3 blocks at most. You can walk around in 5-7 minutes if you walk at a nice pace and don't stop anywhere. Use caution at night, and look like you know where you are going. I mention my advice in previous posts, and the first few pages are filled with guidance / advice.
2. Performance is always YMMV. If a girl cares about the money, which they all do, she'll do what you agree with her to do (unless she wants to scam you). If you agree to BBBJ if she offers that, then chances are you'll pay for it and you'll get it. Some will do at no cost, but YMMV. Some will charge for kissing. Others will not. Talk about it before hand, and you'll hopefully get what you pay for. If you're smelly and have bad hygiene, don't expect much. Especially BBBJ even if you offer to pay for it.
3. The price is going to vary. Santa Fe for one hour is going to be around 100 k with other fees such as for the short time hotel etc. It can add up to 120 - 150 k. It's not much money, but depends on how much you want to pay. Try out a 20 min session and then see if you want more time in the future. Something like that. You can go to a place like Chicas Milenio / Chicas 2000 which has a pretty good selection of chicas and the price for an hour will be about 60 k - 80 k. YMMV with upselling. But that should get you a CBJ and CFS at least, and the rest you'll have to figure out.
Best of luck. And seriously, RTFF.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780302]May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1778089]So after I "shed" my novia, I decided to walk from Calle 56 down to Santa Fe this past Saturday. I felt pretty comfortable about the walk down Carrera 14 since the Transmilenio went through it and I had scouted the route out taking the bus with my novia to La Candaleria the day before. I had no problem making the walk to Santa Fe, aside from just being vigilant about crossing every street, looking out for traffic. Again, I can't reiterate enough, you can very easily get hit by a car / taxi / sport motorcycle if you don't pay attention.
So I make it to Santa Fe and I'm not impressed. Place smells, is dirty and since it's a Saturday, it's a zoo....[/QUOTE]Actually, you did Santa Fe all wrong-- Saturday is good but you have to go in the later afternoon and The night time is way better-- I prefer Wednesday Thursday night (Less Crowded--Lotsa Hot Chicas) for the Hotter street girls and for the clubs accept Attunes you have to go in the Evening Past 9 pm.
You would have had a different opinion. Sorry
By the way-- I do offer guide and visa services IM me if interested
[QUOTE=PipiLoco;1778468]I apologize, guess I didn't read far enough to get the whole thing. Moving on with the Santa Fe situation, yes that section is pretty bad mainly because a lot of the organize crime "meetings" if you could say that take place among other underground (guns purchases, gun exchange, drugs and money laundering) stuff, sometimes take place during the night at the places such as paisas. But everything is not bad, a lot of the 8-10 girl will go there (mainly from Medellin and Cali) and you could score big for not much and not just your typical 20 m action.[/QUOTE]Honestly -- I've been to Santa Fe hundreds of times (last time Saturday night) as I live nearby-- Never Ever had a problem with gangs. It's not Dangerous if you take normal precautions and are Street wise.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780302]May I ask you how much is the price for 1 hour with a girl in Santa Fe and how much is the price in Chapinero? I have seen within maps that there are a lot of brothels in Chapinero.
Performance are same in these two areas? Is possible to have the BBJ without condom?
Could be a good option to have the hotel in Chapinero moving with the taxi to Santa Fe?[/QUOTE]Prices in Chapinero and Santa Fe are similar-- Usually the price for a 15-20 minute session (un rato) is $35-40 thousand pesos for a street girl-- More for extras- the Clubs in Santa Fe can be more -- I have had sessions for $40-$60 thou.
BBJ Does exist -- But sometimes the girl will say yes and than when you get to the room it's a different story-- But usually not.
Sad to lose a fellow New Yorker. Guess my experience pales on what poor John went through. Just finished reading all the posts on the Medellin thread. It could happen in Bogota as well. Can actually happen anywhere, but Colombia and taxis and motorbikes and street thugs just don't seem to be a good mix.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1780387]Sad news, 65 year old New Yorker was shot and killed after being stopped and resisting a robbery attempt. Ocurred a couple of days ago just one block away from the mansion.
After all recent discussions of the dangers in Santa Fe, heed the warnings, follow the advices and be careful out there. More information and many good tips for safety in the Medellin reports thread.
[URL]http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/new-yorker-killed-botched-robbery-leaving-columbia-article-1.2376002[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1780408]Prices in Chapinero and Santa Fe are similar-- Usually the price for a 15-20 minute session (un rato) is $35-40 thousand pesos for a street girl-- More for extras- the Clubs in Santa Fe can be more -- I have had sessions for $40-$60 thou.
BBJ Does exist -- But sometimes the girl will say yes and than when you get to the room it's a different story-- But usually not.[/QUOTE]On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?
What do you mean for YMMV?
I supposed that prices were not so high. On Google maps the average price is 50 K for 1 hour. Are these maps totally not right?
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1780388]Alright so you're not RTFF clearly, but I'll give you some quick answers starting bottom up.
1. Stay in Zona Rosa if it's your first visit. Don't stay in Santa Fe or near Santa Fe. Chapinero is fine. Don't walk around late at night and by yourself. Santa Fe is the red light district, it's run-down, it's shady, but it's not a huge area. Maybe 2-3 blocks at most. You can walk around in 5-7 minutes if you walk at a nice pace and don't stop anywhere. Use caution at night, and look like you know where you are going. I mention my advice in previous posts, and the first few pages are filled with guidance / advice.
2. Performance is always YMMV. If a girl cares about the money, which they all do, she'll do what you agree with her to do (unless she wants to scam you). If you agree to BBBJ if she offers that, then chances are you'll pay for it and you'll get it. Some will do at no cost, but YMMV. Some will charge for kissing. Others will not. Talk about it before hand, and you'll hopefully get what you pay for. If you're smelly and have bad hygiene, don't expect much. Especially BBBJ even if you offer to pay for it.
3. The price is going to vary. Santa Fe for one hour is going to be around 100 k with other fees such as for the short time hotel etc. It can add up to 120 - 150 k. It's not much money, but depends on how much you want to pay. Try out a 20 min session and then see if you want more time in the future. Something like that. You can go to a place like Chicas Milenio / Chicas 2000 which has a pretty good selection of chicas and the price for an hour will be about 60 k - 80 k. YMMV with upselling. But that should get you a CBJ and CFS at least, and the rest you'll have to figure out.
Best of luck. And seriously, RTFF.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1780718]Sad to lose a fellow New Yorker. Guess my experience pales on what poor John went through. Just finished reading all the posts on the Medellin thread. It could happen in Bogota as well. Can actually happen anywhere, but Colombia and taxis and motorbikes and street thugs just don't seem to be a good mix.[/QUOTE]I think it's important to understand the type of robberies you may encounter in Colombia. The first is a wrong place, wrong time type. It can happen anywhere any time. It's a robbery of opportunity. You get spotted by a thief or gang working in unison. You look like you may have money or a watch or I phone, whatever but you become the target. They will observe you, give signals to each other and pounce in an instant. I've seen it happen on crowed streets near the metros. Don't get a false sense of security because there are a lot of people around, it can happen because they know no one will get involved. The other type is you become known by the wrong people because you have money or valuables. In this case it could have been the security in the hotel who tipped of the gang or a girl he had to his hotel room, who knows for sure but to avoid this type of assault the only thing he could have done was to order the taxi by telephone and sent to the hotel to pick you up. . Any time you catch a cab in the street this can happen. And never resist! I know, I know, we're all stand up guys who have balls and nobody's going to take my shit. Bla bla bla. BUT, they have guns and knives and your life means nothing to them. Never carry more cash around then you need and always give it up without even a word so as to live another day.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780798]What do you mean for YMMV?[/QUOTE]Your Mileage May Vary. The experience may not be the same from girl to girl, monger to monger, day to day.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780795]On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?[/QUOTE]They are street hookers, in front of motels. You might see one, you might see a few in front of each motel. You can find a gem or two on a good night, and you need to be patient and grab a good looking one as they seem to get taken pretty quickly on busy days / nights.
Street hookers are not difficult to find. I've seen some in Zona Rosa just a block or two from nice hotels / restaurants by street corners or just walking, later in the night. It's not that difficult to spot in my experience. Also, don't rely on those videos on YouTube. I saw a few (and likely the same) before I went to Santa Fe for the first time and was not impressed in the videos, I was actually concerned it was going to end up in disappointment. The good looking ones are in the clubs / bars, and there are plenty of them.
Mr. E answered the first question.
The maps are mostly updated, but prices could be off and prices can change as well. A girl can quote you what she likes. If it's 50 k for 1 hour, that's great. If it's 60 k, that's great too. If it's 100 k or 150 k, you know she's asking for more than the market rates (for those places). Remember that 100 k is $32 USD. For a one hour session with a good looking girl, that's a bargain in most regions. Use the prices on the map as a guide, you decide using your knowledge and gut if you feel you're being quoted market rates or being given higher pricing. You can negotiate and depending on your skills, she might take your offer. The more spanish you speak, and the less mentioning of "it's my first time in Colombia" you should get market rates most of the time or negotiating power in the very least. And YMMV.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780798]What do you mean for YMMV?
I supposed that prices were not so high. On Google maps the average price is 50 K for 1 hour. Are these maps totally not right?[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.
There are lists of places and Maps.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1782123]Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1780795]On youtube is possible to see some videos of Santa Fe. Some (not really beautiful) women who wait within something which seems the entrance of a "garage" or something like that.
Are these Street Hookers or they simply stay "around" the entrance of a brothel?
Concerning Chapinero I did not seen that on Youtube. Are there here Street hookers?[/QUOTE]The driveways / entrances where they wait are hotels -- and some clubs-- There can be really hot girls there too. But they are Street hookers. In Chapinero they have casas all the girls are inside.
Here is a good '"Girl Friendly hotel- Hotel Ibis, It's about 3/4 mile from Santa Fe and easy to get to Chapinero and points north.
[URL]http://www.accorhotels.com/es/hotel-7318-ibis-bogota-museo/index.shtml[/URL]
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/@4.6149806[/URL], -74.069188,3 a,75 y,48.7 h,93.8 t / data=!3 m6!1 e1!3 m4!1 sE97 Rb2 l7 Xb-LOYBc__zJ4 Q!2 e0!7 i13312!8 i6656!6 m1!1 e1.
[QUOTE=EuropeanMan;1782123]Hi guys,
Sorry if I ask again but I need another info.
My company biiked for me an hotel at Calle 92 / Autopista Norte. Somebody know where I can go walking around here paying 50.000-60.000 pesos per 1 hour.
I don't search Miss Colombia but only a places where to find black girls or girls with big tits and and I would also to avoid places where girls ask me 100 k pesos or more for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.
I flew into Bogota late Friday and did a quick cruise of my neighborhood where I am staying, which is in Chapinero on CRA 7 near Parque del Hippies though nary a hippie can be found. I selected this area because I am leaving Monday morning for other Colombia destinations and wanted to sample some of the local talent before moving on.
As this is virtually my first foray in Bogota and due to its extensive terrain, I decided to stay within walking distance of the Pussy House on CL 61 as this strip bar has several positive recommendations on ISG. It was about a 7 minute walk to the club and easy to find. When I entered, the guards gave me a cursory sweep but I should note there was no cover charge as mentioned on World Traveler guide. After entering, the waiter attempted to have me sit near the landing where the dancers perform. I wanted a couch to be a bit away from the action but as it turns out, the couches are for bottle service only. In fact, it's not possible to order alcohol by the glass. Instead I requested a beer for 5 COP and sat near the dancers platform. The talent was ok though nothing exceptional until a rather nice looking chica appeared in a fluorescent yellow cheerleader type outfit barely covering her perfect supple ass. Underneath she wore some lace black panties and garters. When she came my way, she offered a bright smile and then took my finger and allowed me to rub her shaved pussy. This act, as it turns out, would be as close as my finger and eye would get for the rest of my time with her.
I caught up with her after she left the stage and bought her a drink for 15 COP, another beer for me, and we were allowed to sit at a table. Shortly thereafter, she offered and performed for me a very enthusiastic lap dance. Her performance was so dynamic, it even captured the envious glances of a few nearby punters. Naturally, I knew an offer to go upstairs would be coming but was less than enthused because I don't really like how these rooms generally look and the overall ambience.
Michelle told me her price was $80 COP for 20 minutes, which I declined. Exasperated, she eventually increased the time to 30 minutes and lowered her price to $70 COP (=USD $23). Well, at that price I figured WTF, I might as well go for it. Since things appeared to go well in the main room and she told me that she would kiss, I figured the rest would take care of itself. Unfortunately, I figured wrong.
After quickly undressing in the dingy room, she applied some antiseptic to my privates for such a long time it felt like I was going to an operating room. After this hygenic and non-stimulating exercise, I attempted a bit of DATY to warm up the opposing party. She resisted it and would not even lay down as I tried to gently push her into the prone condition. Kissing? Not even close. Blow job? Haha! Then I tried to at least put my finger on her pussy and she strong armed me like a halfback would a linebacker in the NFL. She insisted on being on top but I finally threw her off as I was not enjoying her aberrant riding style at all. I finally got on top but the whole experience turned out to be totally forgettable. Additionally, the strategic lighting in the main room hid some serious stretch marks on her belly. Really, it was overall a complete disappointment especially after spending the winter in Bangkok and Bali where almost all the girls kiss enthusiastically and love a bit of DATY.
This was not a good start to my Colombian trip but going to write this one off. I guess they can't all be gems.
Is YMMV, I have had great experiences (meet them there and make arrangements for OOC meetings) also had no so great times. Plusses for me are: Close to where I normally stay, cheap cold beer, more private area and dance area on second floor, I feel safer there than Santa Fe, decent talent, opportunity for a cheap fun night (I usually negotiate with the girl for her company and lap dances on the second floor, we share a bottle and go from there.) One rule of thumb I learned, the hottest ones in the club, know they are the hottest, are masters at getting money away from you and are eager to move to the next target. I stay away from them and usually go for the more quiet not aggressive types, they appreciate the attention and usually treat me great and are in no rush to leave you (a big plus if you like to dance, most colombians love to dance).
Just spent yesterday in Santa Fe, and have to admit, was very bare. Would not advise to go on a Sunday, went around 6 pm, and one of the bars I was drinking in said they would be closing soon so I left!
OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had!
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1784451]OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had![/QUOTE]Try Atunes, late afternoon, lot's of girls 30/40,000 cop. Ran across a very beautiful and hot girl there for 40,000 cop, a little higher then some others were asking but she was fine. In fact I was surprised to find someone so polished there. Although Santa Fe usually disappoints, you never know when the diamond in the rough will pop up.
1, 2, and 3. Those are "motels". There are rooms and you pay the chica generally for the room and her services, and if not sure just ask her if that includes the cost of the room or not. I've come across ones that will quote the services and then the room when you go up to get a key. Services include the usual CBJ (or BBBJ) and FS. Anything else you'll have to make clear with her beforehand. Standard stuff, don't expect everything to be included and as always YMMV with extras. She might include it, she might not but that's why you settle at the start.
There are a few good looking street girls (the ones in front of the motels / garages). But you need to get inside the clubs where you'll see what you're looking for. Trust me I've been to SXM plenty of times man, and while you'll have beautiful chicas at Carolinas and Hypnotic, you'll find much more in one of the clubs in Bogota and a lot more variety imo. Go to Atunes in the daytime, and on a good day there will be 20-25 chicas easily. Some are all plastic, some are natural, and some have very cute faces and not the curves of the others. At night if you choose to stay late go to El Castillo and spend an hour there (and get with a chica). When it comes to looks, it will make you forget about SXM for that one hour. YMMV on overall service, and it's higher priced than a place like Atunes but it's still worth it overall. I like SXM a lot and plan to be there in the coming weeks, but overall costs and just things to do in general Bogota has A LOT and gives better value. Many good looking chicas go from Colombia to SXM. But you're in the motherland, and Bogota is massive. I was surprised when first walking around Santa Fe and remembering some of the videos I saw on youtube, from the outside it's accurate. But you don't get an idea of the quality of girls until you get inside one of the clubs.
[QUOTE=ClubTed;1784451]OK, so having made the maiden voyage to Bogota and gotten a good lay of the land, despite a hiccup, I'm looking for some guidance regarding the stationary working girls, hanging outside of what appears to be parking garages. I've come to the conclusion that there are 4 categories of "chicas" in Santa Fe:
1) Those in the clubs, of which I was in Santa Fe too early and didn't get a chance to view.
2) Streetwalkers, which I have no interest in.
3) Trannys, which I learned my lesson by getting scammed, but we won't go there again.
And lastly, 4) Chicas that would be similar to Amsterdam window girls, only they stay put outside of a parking garage or apartment or some type of fixed structure.
While in Santa Fe on the busy Saturday, I only came across 2 of these chicas I would have any interest in. One was a pretty hot MILF that quoted me 40 K COP. Never got around to discussing price with the other. So my question is 3 part.
1) Are there rooms hidden behind or within these apparent parking garages? Thought I saw quite a few doors. If so are they somewhat respectable?
2) Does the price quoted include the room? And if not, who do you pay. The chica?
3) Is the price quoted FS out on the street, or it that the baseline and do you now find yourself in an upsell situation?
Thinking of venturing back to Bogota, since I'm better informed and for the fact that the airfare is reasonable, the dollar is super strong vs. The COP, and you can't beat the price points. My last day in Bogota, I checked out the MP joints near the Hotel Dann Carlton and while disappointed, my outlay was 100,000 COP which was what? 35 bucks? Amsterdam is 50 euro for the basic in the RLD, which usually turns out to be a major disappointment, SXM is 50 bucks plus room key / fee, Campo in Curacao has gone up on their price structure. I'm still amazed at how little I spent during my visit to Bogota. Will also sample some places in Chapinero, now that I've done recon on them. WT's maps are very helpful. It's just that the city is so big, and places can be quite spread out. Having stayed on Calle 56, I walked down to Santa Fe, but there's no way I could have made it up to the Mezzanine without using a taxi. That's why it's important to hit places that are a) still open, and b) still economically friendly! And I still think the real hotties jump ship from Bogota and head elsewhere where there's more money to be had![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1782639]Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.[/QUOTE]Looking for guide to Bogota's seedier spots. 1st time trip coming up.
I cannot pm Woodman09 as he appears to have not cleared his inbox in a while. Anyone else out there who lives in Bogota and has time to monger?
Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogotá would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1785640]Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.[/QUOTE]Try guiacerza.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1785640]Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.[/QUOTE]Most girls at Spas, the Mezzanines and a number or the bars, at least Pussy House, are semi pros (don't work at hoking full time, go to school, have second "regular" jobs, go there only a couple of days a week for extra cash. Etc) just talk to them, I had girls from all those three venues meet me for multiple hour visits, and overnights, it is all about talking to them, having them feel comfortable with you, negotiating and coordinating. 200 K can go a long way, had a couple of girls overnight for 300 k, this after drinks, 200 k can get you minimum 2-3 hour date. Now, if you want to get that Aguila Model to do it, good luck. Most girls are very quick to give you their phone number, often you do not even have to ask, why do you think that is?
Try these:
GFE / Non Pro.
Bars / Discos Lots of other places in the Area.
Thanks to UrbanWildlife for this Bars and Discos List. [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=578570&postcount=50[/URL].
La Candelaria.
1. Quiebra-Canto, Salsa, Mixed, Age Group: 20-30's. Carrera 5 #17-76. Tel: 243 1630,341 2319. Hours: _ [URL]http://www.quiebracanto.com[/URL].
2. El Viejo Aleman, Carrera 5 and Calle 13-14. Age Group: 20-40's. Hours:
Zona Rosa. Lots of Bars, Restaurants and Dancing.
1. Gotica, (Dance), Carrera 14 # 82-40. Tel: 218-0712,218-0727 or 616 9320. Hours: _.
2. Latinoes, (Salsa), Carrera 11 #79-75. Tel: 211 8738. Hours: _.
3. La Corraleja, Calle 84 # 13-86 and 14 Carrera. Tel: 218-0089,218 1938. Hours: _ [URL]http://www.lacorraleja.com[/URL].
4. Salsa Camaca, Calle 82 # 14-38. Hours: Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
5. Rock Garden Pub, Carrera 13 # 81-37. Hours: _ [URL]www.rockgardenpub.com[/URL].
6. Tropical Cocktails, see. See. Altantis Plaza, Calle 81, L 215/16. Tel: 530 7428/26. Hours: _ [URL]http://www.tropicalcocktails.com.co[/URL].
7. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 12 # 83-12 and Calle 84. Hours: _.
8. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 13 and Calle 85. Hours: _.
9. The Irish Pub, Carerra 12 A # 83-50. Hours: _.
10. Beer Station, Calle 83 # 12 A 03. Hours: _.
11. Palos de Mogeur, Bar / Brewery / Restaurant, Calle 84 #12-09. Hours: _.
12. Penthouse180 (Degree), Club and Lounge, Calle 84 # 12-17. Hours: _.
Parque de la 93 - Lots of other places in the Area.
1. Red Lion, Calle 93 and Carrera 13. Tel: _ Hours: _.
2. Salto del Angel, Restaurant / Disco, Calle 93 # 93 A-45 and Calle 93 B. Tel: _ Hours: Disco after 11 pm.
3. Bogota Beer Company, Carrera 11 a # 93-94, L-2. Tel: 621 9914. Hours: _ [URL]http://www.bogotabeercompany.com/[/URL].
4. Tropical Cocktails, Calle 93 A #13 A-31. Tel: 530 7428/26. Hours: _ [URL]http://www.tropicalcocktails.com.co[/URL].
5. Tabu, Carerra 11 A # 93 b-12, Tel: 236 1019. Hours: _.
6. Kukaramakara Club Bogotá, Carrera 15 # 93-57. Tel: _ Hours: _ [URL]http://www.kukaramakara.com/menuanimadobogota.html[/URL].
7. Aroma why Tanga, Carrera 15 # 95-52. Tel: 636 0794. Hours: Monday to Friday, 6:00 pm to 3:00 am.
Santa Barbara.
1. Romanos Bar, Calle 107 and Av. Carrera 15. Tel: _ Hours: _.
SPORT BARS.
1. Dream Arena, Carrera 6 A #119 be – 72, Usaquen. Tel: _ Hours: _.
DATING.
[URL]http://www.romancelatina.com/en/faq.php[/URL]
Santa Rosa Malls.
1. see. See. Andinos, Carrera 12 at Calle 82.
2. see. See. Atlantis Plaza, Carrera 15 at Calle 81.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1785640]Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.[/QUOTE]
Good luck picking up a non-pro from a regular bar, you better be young, very handsome and have some serious picking girls up skills. Colombian women, tough friendly and approchable, go out in groups with friends, getting them away from those groups not a easy task, if you have good dancing skills, you may have a better chance, but not much. Not an impossible task, but again, good luck. I would not waste my time, but if you are up for the challenge. Go for it! Now, if you are interested in a non pro, my suggestion is look for and set up a date with via on line "friends" site (like amigos). , I had good luck through there in Mexico, Venezuela, Honduras and Colombia. Heads up, not easy but, may be much easier than picking up a girl at a regular bar.
Tinder is good for non-pros, I have had a bit of success on there but it's not as easy as Tinder in the USA There are reasons for this, but if you stay patient and have a little bit of luck it can work in your favor. CC is the same.
Go to the spa's / MP's and talk to the chicas. It's easy. If you really have some game, go to a Bogota Beer Company later in the evening and you might just get lucky. Getting laid in Colombia can be easy in places like Santa Fe, but it takes a little bit of patience and effort when it comes to semi-pros and especially with non-pros. 300 k for TLN can be had, so 200 k for a few hours is very possible. I'm surprised you got turned down on 250 mil, but YMMV.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1785640]Having been in Colombia so long I thought finding a semi pro in Bogot would be a snap but I'm still lost as to where to find them. Thought I had a solid one but when I offered 250 Mil for a morning romp today she said it's not enough.
That said where are the pickup spots? Been doing the Santa Fe thing but that's just pump and dump. Rather have an educated semi pro for 3/4 hours in my hotel room to relax. Order in food in between rounds, pool / jacuzzi etc.
Thoughts gents? Tinder is a bust, tried the malls but didn't go far. Colombian cupid didn't get many hits.[/QUOTE]
Here is the short of it. I have 48 Hours and its my first time. I want to find the hottest youngest girls in Bogota and money is absolutely not an issue. I want to go tru about 3-4 chicas a day and be in a safe area. Where should I stay and what should I do is the short version of this question? I land in Bogota in 3 days.
The details:
I'm 6'2 280 LB Full Spanish Guy Born and Raised in NYC. (Big Guy / Street Smart / Haven't gotten robbed yet Overseas /+Amen).
I'm in a very well known Motorcycle Club and if I bring my leather jacket (My Cut) (Nobody Fucks With Me).
I live in Hawaii and just happen to look like a huge Hawaiian guy (Girls will never know I'm Spanish).
(Wasn't going to let the girls know I speak perfect Spanish so I can hear the shit they are talking to their friends).
I'm financially well off and money is not an issue. (I usually wear nice clothes, big watches, and etc.).
I go to the Dominican Republic and Philippines several times a year for mongering.
(I know the deal and the girls mind sets).
I will only have 48 hours from the time I land to the time I depart Bogota. (First time to Colombia).
Usual habit overseas either Dominican Republic or Philippines:
5 Star Hotel or 4-5 Bedroom Villas.
Personal Driver for the week or I drive a luxury rental.
Have fun, ball out, and run tru about 2-3 chicas a day.
Usually make friends with these girls and the bar owners and keep in contact when back in the USA.
I like them 18 y-21 y MAX 24-26. No kids! No stretch marks!
I'm young, good looking, and the girls usually come back with me Happy as fuck because we have fun.
What I was planning (Before doing research):
I was going to stay in a hotel Dead Center Sante Fe because I usually like to be walking distance from the girls.
Found what I thought was a decent new hotel around the clubs in Sante Fe walking distance.
Was going to rent a full size car at the airport so I wouldn't have to worry about taking cabs or getting robbed.
Now from what I have researched in just the past 6 hours since I booked my tickets:
I'm not staying in Sante Fe. Or anywhere near that *****.
I'm not going to bring anything nice. Jeans and sweater.
I'm not going to bring tons of money nor carry tons of it on me.
I think I still want a rental depending on what you "masters" advice me.
This is going to be way different than anything else I have ever seen.
Hence, I have read many forums and learned from you masters over the years, but Tonight. I ask for some advice.
Where should I stay that's Chica friendly? (As long as it has a bed, TV, and AC I'm fine).
Where should I go for the girls in Bogota that will come back to my hotel and play nice! (BBBJ and everything).
Should I rent a car since I have no problem driving in third world countries?
I don't need a car if you guys can recommend a hotel that's in a good area and I can walk to bars / strips clubs / etc.
Any advice I should be aware of. And I don't plan to sleep much. Maybe a nap here and there but that's it.
Lastly, for those who respond and help me in this time of uncertainty. I thank you with my life. (Literally).
Goodnight gentleman,
Hawaii84
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As was I. She's a 6 ft, slim 19 yr old who works at a spa. Her logic was I paid 160/ HR at the spa so it should be 3 x that. My response was when I win the Baloto I'll call.
I'm back again next Thurs for 48 hrs. Going to hit up a few spots in Chapinero / Santa Fe and see how it goes. But overly surprised as I find it's much easier in Medellin / La Costa! 10 yrs. In Colombia but for the life of me can't figure out Bogota. My goal really is to find something on the side I can hang out with regularly. Last two were paisas. Volleyball body type. Trained them to be amazing in bed but alas they all wanted love and that's something I can't be bothered with.
Thanks for giving me that second wind. Won't write off Bogota just yet.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1786061]Tinder is good for non-pros, I have had a bit of success on there but it's not as easy as Tinder in the USA There are reasons for this, but if you stay patient and have a little bit of luck it can work in your favor. CC is the same.
Go to the spa's / MP's and talk to the chicas. It's easy. If you really have some game, go to a Bogota Beer Company later in the evening and you might just get lucky. Getting laid in Colombia can be easy in places like Santa Fe, but it takes a little bit of patience and effort when it comes to semi-pros and especially with non-pros. 300 k for TLN can be had, so 200 k for a few hours is very possible. I'm surprised you got turned down on 250 mil, but YMMV.[/QUOTE]
Hawaii84 keep in mind Bogota is more than 8,600 ft above sea level, so may want to take it easy for a bit. Believe me it affects your stamina.
I recommend against renting a car, Bogota traffic is crazy, is not easy to get around and you may have challenges finding parking, save yourself the headache.
Young and beautiful to take back to the hotel? May be disappointed at the clubs, Skip the clubs, order to go, [URL]www.solitasparati.com[/URL], register in their web site, you have pics, videos and menus for the girls.
Girl friendly hotel to bring 3-4 girls? That is a though one, If money is not an issue, I would find a nice hotel to sleep and rest and rent a room in of the several motels in Caracas near 60 street to play, there you can rent Sex theme rooms and or with jaccuzzi, sounds like for what you are looking for may be the way to go, those motels (Amueblados) are the "norm" for Bogotanos to meet and play (met a few girls there from the clubs, independents and from solitasparati) and are walking distance (couple of blocks away) from some strip Bars.
Hope that helps some, good luck, be careful, have fun and do report back.
P.S. Consider hiring a driver, it is safer, they will take care of you and inexpensive, there are a number of hired driver agencies in Bogota [URL]elitecarservicebogota.com[/URL] is one I'm familiar with.
Going to be in Bogota for a few days early November then Cartagena til Mid November. Wondering if any other guys would like to meet up and prowl around. After watching the Youtube video on the devils breath (sclopomine) I think it may be prudent to go out in groups versus solo. If interested PM me & we can discuss details.
Thanks,
JK214
With only 2 days to spend you will need to hit the ground running. Driving in Bogota for a first time visit is not recommended, driving around an Island like the DR is night and day different than a city of 8 plus million. If you like the taxi guy you grab at the airport make a deal with him or have your hotel call a cab for you and make a deal with him to take you where you want to go and have him wait or return at a specific time, very safe and not expensive. Private penthouse / apartments may be unavailable because most require 3 day stay but when I find a nice penthouse I want to stay for a day or two, I would pay for 3 days and leave when I need to, sometimes it comes in handy for late check out depending on my flight. Check [URL]Homeaway.com[/URL] for some really nice places to stay with no worries about chica friendly. I always tip the security guard in reception 10 or 20,000 cop and you will have a friend for life. Just don't flaunt a lot of money or jewelry because most taxi traps happen because of a tip, from the hotel clerks or the girls you see, just be alert for anything. Forget SF, very few allstars there, and the web site prepagos, most use fake pics and its a crap shoot on the quality of service. I'm sure you have experienced that in the DR. IF. Money is no object, go to Laylos, club 49 or Flirt hotel, some very hot girls who like to overcharge gringos. With your Spanish skills I'm sure you can land a 9 or 10 there and be very clear on what you want. These girls will want 500,000 cop or more but you should be able to chop them and if the sex is great and you want to repeat with them you'll get a better deal. I just returned from 8 days in Bogota and I have 3 or 4 non pros in the stable right now that give sex every bit as good as a Brasilera. I'd give you some numbers but I'm still in love, need another week or two to detox. LOL buena suerte!
Most useful thing ever written here. Especially #1.
[QUOTE=Hawaii84;1786156]
Now from what I have researched in just the past 6 hours since I booked my tickets:
I'm not staying in Sante Fe. Or anywhere near that *****.
I'm not going to bring anything nice. Jeans and sweater.
I'm not going to bring tons of money nor carry tons of it on me.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1782639]Hot Black Street girls in Santa Fe for $15.[/QUOTE]Woodman,
Drop me a line. I will be in Bogota Thursday, Oct 22. We'll get some drinks.
I have a large list of FB girls in Medellin and have met quite a few, but don't have any yet for BOG. If anyone wants to exchange some info for part-timers, GFE college girls etc. In Bogota, PM me. Thanks.
I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota and went to the ATMs outside of Customs. My Charles Schwab card would not work in the ATMs. Luckily I have more than one bank and one of my other cards worked. It was my dad and brother's first time in Colombia and I had forgotten to tell them to just use their ATM cards so they had brought money to exchange. The exchange rate at the booth was way below the interbank so I got money out of my bank for my dad and my brother used his ATM card as well. The taxi touts inside were asking 40k to go downtown. I went upstairs and outside to find someone dropping off a passenger and negotiated a 20k flat rate. We went downtown to my usual hotel which was 40k for each room.
After getting settled in we must have headed out about midnight to walk down to Santa Fe. I gave them a quick tour then we went inside of La Piscina. Now I usually stay away from this place and stick to the chicks in front of the casas, but since the exchange rate is so great I figured we might as well try it out. We sat down and ordered 3 beers for 6k each since that was the cheapest thing on the menu. There were no other patrons in the place. I immediately secured my girl. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 150k. I started laughing. It took nothing for her to get down to 100k. My brother grabbed a girl and bought her a drink. Later on when the bill was added up he found out said drink was 15k. I asked him how much his girl wanted and he said 80. I had to jump in. It took me negotiating with my girl to get 100k, but right off his girl was taking 80k? Well come to find out, his girl wanted US$80! I started laughing. I said if I am giving my girl 100k pesos there is no way you are getting US$80. It didn't take much to get her to accept 100k.
I told my dad that he had better hurry and choose one because I was on the way to the room with mine. He finally got one and I made sure she was okay with the same 100k that the other girls were getting. It was cool so off we went. We had to stop by the room cashier and pay 15k for the room along with the chica fee. She didn't have any change we we all had to claim our change later. The cashier asked for a tip. I told her when she comes to the room to fuck like the rest of the girls then she will get a tip. She said that would not be a problem. I told her next time then. We went up in the elevators to the rooms.
My girl was just what the doctor ordered. She made me think she was my girlfriend. We said that we loved each other when we were fucking. When time was up I took a couple of pictures and was on my way. As a tip, I let her keep the 10k change that was due back to me from the cashier. I met back up with my dad and brother downstairs and they said that their girls were on point too. We left out and the next spot was Troya. The time was 1:07am. There were some nice girls in there as well and it was full of patrons. I ended up asking one girl how much and she said 36k including the room. What the fuck? I told my dad and my brother that we had gotten ripped off at La Piscina and could have gotten 3 girls AND a beer for that price here. And besides that, all these years I have been going with street chicas when I could have been in Troya for about the same price. Troya is my kind of place and it is definitely where I will put out roots from now on.
We hit a few more places just to check them out. El Castillo was 160k. They would not let me bring my gym sack in. They made me rent a locker for 2k to keep it in. Waste of money since we just walked in and looked and asked a girl the price and left. The rest of the places were holes in the wall. My brother was hungry and wanted to get food so we were going to take a taxi into downtown to find something. The taxi guy told me that we were probably already at one of the best places. Ricuras El Gato at Calle 24 16-23. And there were policemen inside so you know it was probably one of the best choices. We each got the bbq wings and a bottle of water. My brother had an empanada too. The total was 40k600. After we ate we walked back to the hotel. On the way, I took a few pictures using my Samsung Galaxy S5. I ended up walking back to Santa Fe alone at maybe 3am and hitting one of the chicks in front of the casas. The next morning we were off to the airport to go to Medellin. The taxi to the airport was 18k.
I was RTFF and found this post from 2013 interesting.
However, I cannot find the name of the website referenced in this post. I did search on "Una Tablita" but did not see anything useful.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
BKKguru.
[QUOTE=Brainzzz;1447438]It seems the majority of the members / posters here prefer taking a stroll down to Santa Fe. However, I did some researching in the interwebs and came across this website (below). It is a blogsite dedicated to reviewing girls, written by the local Bogtanos written in Spanish. (Google translate is your friend). The majority of the reviews attach links and "una tablita" rating the girls based on their face, body, ass, tits, attitude, services, if the photos are real, etc.
Probably of more utility for those who prefer an outcall or are weary about Santa Fe at night, as most of the reviews come from agencies. Seems like the local favorite is an agency called solitasparati. There are links to the website and if you follow them on twitter they update you with discounts for the girls.
I referenced this site last weekend for domicillios. Some might prefer the outcall having a home court advantage so to speak. Called, talked to the madame who arranges the appointments, who quoted me on an hour delivery. 30min later I had a nice little present at my door. $130COP for the hour included DATY, CBJ, CFS. Good experience for me with this young universitaria. We made arrangements to exchange English lessons for her services in the future, no more paying for me.
Happy hunting[/QUOTE]
Althought I have never had any problem with any taxi drivers any where in Colombia, but I am being told that when in Bogota use UBER. That is safest as the company has all drivers info and they can easily catch him.
Regards,
John.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1786438]P.S. Consider hiring a driver, it is safer, they will take care of you and inexpensive, there are a number of hired driver agencies in Bogota [URL]elitecarservicebogota.com[/URL] is one I'm familiar with.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BKKguru;1788792]I was RTFF and found this post from 2013 interesting.
However, I cannot find the name of the website referenced in this post. I did search on "Una Tablita" but did not see anything useful.
Any help would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]I think you misread the post. The website he referenced is [URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]. Maybe by tablita he meant that there was a chart or something.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1788785]My girl was just what the doctor ordered. She made me think she was my girlfriend. We said that we loved each other when we were fucking.[/QUOTE]Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment. One of my favorites in Brazil always gets all emotional when I'm doing "that up and down" on her and starts telling me how much she missed my dick and that she loves my dick and wants my "leite" inside of her LOL!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1788785]I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Nice report, thanks for sharing. You gave me a good plan of attack when I go in Jan 2016.
Which hotel did you stay at? I'd like to have a night or two within walking distance of Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1788803]I think you misread the post. The website he referenced is [URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]. Maybe by tablita he meant that there was a chart or something.[/QUOTE]There is a Bogota review site that uses the tablita, and they do review amongs others girls from solitas para ti, heads up, the site has been known for some fake reviews used for pimping some of the girls. Forosprepagocolombia dot com.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1788818]Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment. One of my favorites in Brazil always gets all emotional when I'm doing "that up and down" on her and starts telling me how much she missed my dick and that she loves my dick and wants my "leite" inside of her LOL![/QUOTE]But who cares, It makes for a great time. My new novia is a nurse. She was actually crying real tears when I was leaving last month. Since I have been at this hobby for many years I only half believed it. Turns out she was crying because the money was leaving not me hahah. I had my buddy contact her a few days after I left and ask her if she was interested in meeting and she replied Yes! So while its fun and sexy and a nice ego boost, It's all an act and remember when you fall in love in a foreign country, your falling in love by yourself.
[QUOTE=TheCane;1788818]Hahaha that's some funny shit! I love it when they do that, even if they don't mean it. It's all a part of the fantasy. Or, maybe they do mean it in the moment.[/QUOTE]I tell them they will have to tell me that they love me. It is a part of their employment contract. A lot of guys opt for BBBJ, or skeet on tits, or whatever. I want the Te quiero mi amor special.
Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1789582]I tell them they will have to tell me that they love me. It is a part of their employment contract. A lot of guys opt for BBBJ, or skeet on tits, or whatever. I want the Te quiero mi amor special.[/QUOTE]You see. Everybody needs to feel loved. Even Mr. E LOL! And so many want to accuse the man of not having a heart hahaha!
Greetings!
I'll be taking my first trip to Bogota later this month. I'm excited to savor the local flavors! Reading the forums has been very helpful. I will be working for much of the time I'm there and probably can't really do much in the way of exploring. I'll need to order room service. I'm looking at a few different options for services to go through. Solitasparati seems to be a great option. Can anyone confirm this or offer better solutions for ordering in to my hotel? I'm hoping to have 3 or 4 visits with the 18 - 23 yo spinner types (Maria Pia looks perfect, from solitasparati).
Thanks in advance!
This is Colombia, many guys get the impression that getting laid is incredibly easy and it is if you pay for it. Not paying for it is a different story, but it's not impossible. First, you need to know some spanish. Not just buen DIA, como estas? And donde esta bańo? But be able to converse in spanish, ask questions, answer them, say something amusing etc. Many non-pros will be charmed by men who can attempt to speak spanish and know a bit. You could go to a Bogota Beer Company or a restaurant / bar in Zona Rosa and come across plenty of single women. Many who are in groups of friends. If you give the impression that you're just looking for sex, unless she's a pro or semi-pro you're not going to get very far. Colombian chicas are also very family oriented, they come first and a majority live with their family. If she sees you want something serious, you have a chance. And it might take a couple dates. If you're not a frequent visitor to Colombia, you should stick to just p4 p. Even frequent visitors such as myself stick to p4 p. I'll arrange dates on ColombianCupid and try Tinder and have had some luck, but not going to lie. It will take a little bit of work. If I didn't know much spanish, I'd be struggling. Being able to ask questions in spanish and take an interest in her life and getting to know her using spanish, that will help A LOT. Also, make an effort to learn to dance. Not the club EDM dancing that goes on in the USA / Europe.
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1789642]Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1789642]Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Go to Andres Carne DC grab a seat at the bar on the first floor, near the entrance. Now just watch the parade of beautiful women who stream in. Now if you speak Spanish, dress trendy and have some game, you may be able to move out a real non pro beauty. While being American in Medellin has lost it's advantage, in Bogota it's still a bit of a novelty especially to the normal women. So have it and let us know how it worked out for you.
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1790179]This is Colombia, many guys get the impression that getting laid is incredibly easy and it is if you pay for it. Not paying for it is a different story, but it's not impossible. First, you need to know some spanish. Not just buen DIA, como estas? And donde esta bao? But be able to converse in spanish, ask questions, answer them, say something amusing etc. Many non-pros will be charmed by men who can attempt to speak spanish and know a bit. You could go to a Bogota Beer Company or a restaurant / bar in Zona Rosa and come across plenty of single women. Many who are in groups of friends. If you give the impression that you're just looking for sex, unless she's a pro or semi-pro you're not going to get very far. Colombian chicas are also very family oriented, they come first and a majority live with their family. If she sees you want something serious, you have a chance. And it might take a couple dates. If you're not a frequent visitor to Colombia, you should stick to just P4P. Even frequent visitors such as myself stick to p4 p. I'll arrange dates on ColombianCupid and try Tinder and have had some luck, but not going to lie. It will take a little bit of work. If I didn't know much spanish, I'd be struggling. Being able to ask questions in spanish and take an interest in her life and getting to know her using spanish, that will help A LOT. Also, make an effort to learn to dance. Not the club EDM dancing that goes on in the USA / Europe.[/QUOTE]Spanish is not the difficult part because, I am Panamanian, the problem is and as you mentioned, the girls are family oriented etc etc. I have used tinder and it has its advantages, although tinder is viewed more like a chat engine rather than a hookup tool as seen in the USA (its useless in Panama). BBC is a nice place to go if you have a wingman, otherwise you will seem like an absolute idiot sitting and drinking by yourself, especially if you are as shy as me. This might sound ignorant on my end. P4P? And-E-Wayz thanks for the heads up, if any of you happen to be there next week, let me know and we can do some prospecting!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1790413]Go to Andres Carne DC grab a seat at the bar on the first floor, near the entrance. Now just watch the parade of beautiful women who stream in. Now if you speak Spanish, dress trendy and have some game, you may be able to move out a real non pro beauty. While being American in Medellin has lost it's advantage, in Bogota it's still a bit of a novelty especially to the normal women. So have it and let us know how it worked out for you.[/QUOTE]I know exactly what you mean and when you say parade, it is an understatement, I mean even the waitresses there are gorgeous. Medellin is more of a prospector city because I have seen it. As mentioned in my other reply, I do speak Spanish and even though it is an advantage when you have to communicate, I feel women there gear towards real foreigners, like those who really don't speak Spanish. I am from Panama so technically it doesn't apply to me.
I will keep all you in the loop and give you a recap of how my trip went. I have already uploaded a post to CL and that was a week ago, no nibs! Hopefully I'll have some great tales for you guys!
[QUOTE=CouldItBe123;1790130]Greetings!
I'll be taking my first trip to Bogota later this month. I'm excited to savor the local flavors! Reading the forums has been very helpful. I will be working for much of the time I'm there and probably can't really do much in the way of exploring. I'll need to order room service. I'm looking at a few different options for services to go through. Solitasparati seems to be a great option. Can anyone confirm this or offer better solutions for ordering in to my hotel? I'm hoping to have 3 or 4 visits with the 18 - 23 yo spinner types (Maria Pia looks perfect, from solitasparati).
Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Twitter has gotten a lot of steam as an advertising medium for independents and agencies. I hooked up with a girl that advertised in twitter and had great time, not a clock watcher, pretty with a great body an attitude, it turned out she is formerly from solitasparati.
How to find them, google "twitter escort Bogota", you'll find a few there, or go look who at catadorprepabta is following.
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1789642]Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks[/QUOTE]Hi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatró and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
Regards
I was here and going back and wanted to know what hotels are chica-friendly. I stayed in Hotel Cristales but not the best spot and still 35 k if you book in person /40 k online.
Anybody know similiarly cheap hotels in the area that you can bring a girl up in? I didn't actually try at my hotel so not even sure.
Troya is cool, and Paisas on the next block is supposed to be good like Troya also being very cheap.
Girls on the street there are usually 30 k and up, once in awhile can get an OK one for 25 k, but some definitely try for up to 50 k (doesn't mean they'll get it).
But if you go south of 19th, you are in the real shit and girls can be 15-20 k. Not recommended at night, barely safe in the daytime. Some of the girls are hot, but most are not even close the same quality as calle 23/24 in the zone.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1788785]I have been pretty lazy, but finally will do this report. At the end of August, me, my dad, and my youngest brother arrived in Bogota and went to the ATMs outside of Customs. My Charles Schwab card would not work in the ATMs. Luckily I have more than one bank and one of my other cards worked. It was my dad and brother's first time in Colombia and I had forgotten to tell them to just use their ATM cards so they had brought money to exchange. The exchange rate at the booth was way below the interbank so I got money out of my bank for my dad and my brother used his ATM card as well. The taxi touts inside were asking 40k to go downtown. I went upstairs and outside to find someone dropping off a passenger and negotiated a 20k flat rate. We went downtown to my usual hotel which was 40k for each room.
After getting settled in we must have headed out about midnight to walk down to Santa Fe. I gave them a quick tour then we went inside of La Piscina. Now I usually stay away from this place and stick to the chicks in front of the casas, but since the exchange rate is so great I figured we might as well try it out. We sat down and ordered 3 beers for 6k each since that was the cheapest thing on the menu. There were no other patrons in the place. I immediately secured my girl. I asked her how much she wanted and she said 150k. I started laughing. It took nothing for her to get down to 100k. My brother grabbed a girl and bought her a drink. Later on when the bill was added up he found out said drink was 15k. I asked him how much his girl wanted and he said 80. I had to jump in. It took me negotiating with my girl to get 100k, but right off his girl was taking 80k? Well come to find out, his girl wanted US$80! I started laughing. I said if I am giving my girl 100k pesos there is no way you are getting US$80...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Albarios;1790891]Hi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatró and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
Regards[/QUOTE]Do you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1789642]Hi guys,
I regularly travel to Colombia on business especially Bogota. It has been one of the hardest towns for me in getting action. I do however have a "GF" in Bogota but as many of you may agree, its not about just one. I am going to be in town next week and I wanted to learn from you guys, any easier way to get some action without having to actually pay? I know it may seem a bit picky on my part but hey, lets face it, it better to go fishing than just going to the store and buying fish.
I am very familiar with "zona T" and the 93 park area. A bit classier than going to the center of town but one thing I have learned from being in Bogota, girls are not easy! If we compare Medellin, Barranquilla, Cali where they are much more open minded, Bogota is about snotty or I am to good for you type of girls.
If you guys can give me some pointers or brotherly advice as to where in Bogota I can sit meet and pick up chicks, by all means let me know. I will be giving a full report on my business trip next week and letting you guys know how it went.
Free advice from my part: if you use Uber in Bogota from anywhere in the city to the airport, standard rate is 25 K (roughly 9 bucks)! That is cheap. Considering the exchange rate right now, Colombia is the place to be.
Let me know guys!
Thanks[/QUOTE]There are two sides of this and not sure what you mean. Either way, I don't think it's going to work. 1) You mean trying to meet some girl and make her your girlfriend or whatever. To do that, you are going to have to take her out and talk to her. You are going to have to spend time. Time is worth more than money on a short vacation. By the time you get her, maybe even later that night, the next day, or few days later, you could have shagged at least a few or maybe a dozen girls (also for quite likely less than what taking this "non-pro" out to dinners, etc costs). I barely see the point as I knocked down 6 in one day when I was there. Is the sex with the non-pro going to be all that "special"? Does she look that good? Maybe, maybe not.
2) You are just trying to save money, talk to some girl and hope you can lie your way into her pants by promising all these big things and lifestyle because you are a foreigner but not actually spend a peso. That can happen, but can also fail if you aren't even willing to take her out to eat (so you just wasted a bunch of time for nothing). Some of the girls can fall for this, and do, but I only recommend this is you've got good game and you are really just into the "chase". You might want to take her to a bar for drinks (or meet or pick her up there) and dancing for best results. But a few drinks at a bar / club can be more than some of the girls in the zone. It all depends on how you want to spend your time there and how much time you have, but I made it a mission to hit as much as I could as often as I could. Repeated with a few, and also have a few non-pro legitimate GFs that are definitely not in the biz and are talking about marriage and me getting them pregnant (if that is what you are talking about). But this is an investment in time and money too even if you aren't putting money directly in her pocket. If you are chasing high-quality girls with looks, personality and brains, you might not have much luck if you can't spend a peso on her. Or you better find cheap alternative and nearly free events, festivals, things to do (and food). Ass is so cheap, why bother?
My experience is "free ass" is always more expensive in not just time, but sometimes also money. I still do it though with some civilians and can get them to fall for me, but even I can admit it's a little cruel, but having sex with a "10" civilian is hard to resist if you are good at the chase. Doing shit together, like dinners, seeing sights / attractions, or just taxis and basic BS adds up pretty quick. If you are going to be in town for awhile and take advantage of your free ass, OK. But if only a couple of days, I don't recommend it for the risk of wasting time.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1791497]Do you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?[/QUOTE]He is definitely talking about Theatron you mention. It's the biggest club in the country and between all of the "little clubs" it has with different music scenes, it has a 10,000 person capacity. Entrance fee is 30,000 COP, but all you can drink until 2 am. Even though some people call it a gay hot spot, I think most people there are straight. Either way, tons of higher end girls and non pros. I can see why you guys can say going there or Andres DC (one of the most expensive restaurants in the country also) to find top talent is a possibility.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1791497]Do you mean Theatron? CL. 58 #10-34?[/QUOTE]Yes, you are right. It is between Carrera 9 and Carrera 13.
[QUOTE=CentroEspanol;1791247]I was here and going back and wanted to know what hotels are chica-friendly. I stayed in Hotel Cristales but not the best spot and still 35 k if you book in person /40 k online.
Anybody know similiarly cheap hotels in the area that you can bring a girl up in? I didn't actually try at my hotel so not even sure.
Troya is cool, and Paisas on the next block is supposed to be good like Troya also being very cheap.
Girls on the street there are usually 30 k and up, once in awhile can get an OK one for 25 k, but some definitely try for up to 50 k (doesn't mean they'll get it).
But if you go south of 19th, you are in the real shit and girls can be 15-20 k. Not recommended at night, barely safe in the daytime. Some of the girls are hot, but most are not even close the same quality as calle 23/24 in the zone.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I rented a whole apartment on a very safe part of Calle 24 at AirBnB for $29 dlls per night; the place and the building are very nice. Fiebre, Troya, Paisas, etc. Is not far and walking down Calle 24 is the safest way to arrive to the area.
I hope this helps.
Regards
So after reading the advice of some more experienced Bogota mongers I decided to give it another run and see what comes of it.
Thurs started at Pussy House where I picked up a chica there and brought her back for the night. 300 mil plus dinner was the tab. It was good not great, as even though I had her upstairs it seems that a few beers and some dark lighting makes things look a few points better than they really are. We cut ways Fri and I was free to do the Toreador chapinero tour.
Hit all three Casas in the 71 area during the day and evening and pounded one out in each place. 30 k each, no propinas. Beer 3 k.
One was a waste of time, one was a tight 19 yr old from manzinales that I put in doggie and just went to town. And the last was a 25 yr old fitness buff. I actually told her I just wanted a show but it was so hot and her kisses were so amazing that we ended up going at it. Did a repeat later that evening as well.
Earlier that week I was on seeking arrangement and had made a few contacts. Most are pros on there though with some ridiculous pricing 400 Mil / HR to which I counter with my 150 mil 2 hrs + 250 mil a night. However did meet up with a true semi pro. A bit bigger than I like but after some intellectual conversation and a glass of wine we ended up in bed going at it. She was a real naughty one. Deep throat, spitting, slapping hair pulling. In the end got her an uber and 200 k sending her on her way.
Next day hit up the mezzanine and got an 80 k BJ before the flight to Valledupar. Landed here and had enough energy for a couple rounds with a 22 yr old who I think I will wife up.
All in all Bogot can be cheap or expensive. Quality is 4-7.5. Didn't really see any 8's working. Did try and pickup a few university chicas on my way to / from the Casas but no dice.
As for SA. Well there's a couple chics I'm talking to so we'll see. However there was one HOT Barranquilla chica 9+ who I'm chatting with. We haven't gotten to speaking about money but fingers crossed she's only looking for a good fuck and 500.
Would I consider Bogota a prime Colombian destination. No but if I have to layover anyway might as well just go with the flow.
[QUOTE=Albarios;1790891]Hi, CptBoo.
Some friends recommended me the Theatr and which is a gay-lesbian bar but it is such a very good discotheque that you can find many straight women and men and the atmosphere is excellent to flirt and get laid. However, it is very advisable to go into the place with a male or female friend (s).
I hope you are lucky.
Regards[/QUOTE]Thanks man, I will be sure to check it out and see what the scene there is all about. If I go I will let you guys know.
[QUOTE=CentroEspanol;1791513]There are two sides of this and not sure what you mean. Either way, I don't think it's going to work. 1) You mean trying to meet some girl and make her your girlfriend or whatever. To do that, you are going to have to take her out and talk to her. You are going to have to spend time. Time is worth more than money on a short vacation. By the time you get her, maybe even later that night, the next day, or few days later, you could have shagged at least a few or maybe a dozen girls (also for quite likely less than what taking this "non-pro" out to dinners, etc costs). I barely see the point as I knocked down 6 in one day when I was there. Is the sex with the non-pro going to be all that "special"? Does she look that good? Maybe, maybe not.
2) You are just trying to save money, talk to some girl and hope you can lie your way into her pants by promising all these big things and lifestyle because you are a foreigner but not actually spend a peso. That can happen, but can also fail if you aren't even willing to take her out to eat (so you just wasted a bunch of time for nothing). Some of the girls can fall for this, and do, but I only recommend this is you've got good game and you are really just into the "chase". You might want to take her to a bar for drinks (or meet or pick her up there) and dancing for best results. But a few drinks at a bar / club can be more than some of the girls in the zone..[/QUOTE]To be honest the "free ass" strategy has worked for me in other countries. I still feel its better then paying for a prostitute. I have been here for 3 days now and I have already gotten laid once, so it does work. Yes it can be more expensive, but my recommendation is to get your game on before you come here as I did, there are many sites you can go to where you can start talking to some of these girls online and by the time you get here, they are ready for it.
You have to invest time, that's it time, money is only a part of it and considering the exchange rate as it is right now, you can't go wrong, it is relatively cheap here right now.
If any of you guys are here, lets get together and go out! See if we get lucky!
Hi guys,
Just going to give you a quick update on my trip so far to Bogota, as I mentioned in a previous post I have a lady friend here so getting down wasn't a problem. I have also invested time in going into sites before arriving and have met 2 girls, one which I have already gotten down again with as well. So out of 3 days, 2 lays! Not a bad number if I may say so.
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. I guarantee it is not that hard to get laid without having to pay for a prostitute. Zona T is usually busting as of Tuesdays, so tonight I am making my way there.
Again, if you any of you guys are here, let me know and we can hang out!
I'm around this Sat night if you're up for a drink. Not a major party nightclub guy but speak fluent spanish and can hold my own if you want to invite out a few of your friends.
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1792847]Hi guys,
Just going to give you a quick update on my trip so far to Bogota, as I mentioned in a previous post I have a lady friend here so getting down wasn't a problem. I have also invested time in going into sites before arriving and have met 2 girls, one which I have already gotten down again with as well. So out of 3 days, 2 lays! Not a bad number if I may say so.
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. I guarantee it is not that hard to get laid without having to pay for a prostitute. Zona T is usually busting as of Tuesdays, so tonight I am making my way there.
Again, if you any of you guys are here, let me know and we can hang out![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1792959]I'm around this Sat night if you're up for a drink. Not a major party nightclub guy but speak fluent spanish and can hold my own if you want to invite out a few of your friends.[/QUOTE]That would have been awesome dude, I actually head back home Saturday night. I also speak fluent Spanish, would have been great!
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1792844]To be honest the "free ass" strategy has worked for me in other countries. I still feel its better then paying for a prostitute. I have been here for 3 days now and I have already gotten laid once, so it does work. Yes it can be more expensive....[/QUOTE]Funny, "free ass", you feel its better, but can be more expensive.... I fail to see logic, is it the thrill of the hunt?, too much work in MY opinion, my stays in Bogota are for business and I have little time to go hunting in what will most likely be a hunt and fail mission that, even if sucessful, "can be more expensive". (Then is not free).
We all have our different thrills and preferences, my guess is that most on this forum, are looking for the easy and cheap lays. Good that you are having success and are having fun. Not putting down your report, thank you for sharing as there may be others that could gain something from it.
Note: I tried the "free ass" approach via friends chat groups, yes I succeded a few times (Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela) it is just too much time investment for what I want, and via P4 P I'm convinced you find better looking assess and better lays.
Finally if you visit frequently, is the friendship you may develop with the P4 P girls that may "pay off". Last night I had a threesome with a girl I regularly see (she usually stays with me 3-4 hours for her rate of 1 plus sometimes dinner), she invited a non-pro friend that needed a litle something. Everything went, girl on girl, anal, CIM, video, Etc. For 2 hours. I love P4 P, but again, that is MY preference. (Her non-pro friend now wants the three of us to go out together dancing...)
[QUOTE=Toreador;1793601]Funny, "free ass", you feel its better, but can be more expensive.... I fail to see logic, is it the thrill of the hunt?, too much work in MY opinion, my stays in Bogota are for business and I have little time to go hunting in what will most likely be a hunt and fail mission that, even if sucessful, "can be more expensive". (Then is not free).
We all have our different thrills and preferences, my guess is that most on this forum, are looking for the easy and cheap lays. Good that you are having success and are having fun. Not putting down your report, thank you for sharing as there may be others that could gain something from it.
Note: I tried the "free ass" approach via friends chat groups, yes I succeded a few times (Mexico, Colombia and Venezuela) it is just too much time investment for what I want, and via P4 P I'm convinced you find better looking assess and better lays.
Finally if you visit frequently, is the friendship you may develop with the P4 P girls that may "pay off". Last night I had a threesome with a girl I regularly see (she usually stays with me 3-4 hours for her rate of 1 plus sometimes dinner), she invited a non-pro friend that needed a litle something. Everything went, girl on girl, anal, CIM, video, Etc. For 2 hours. I love P4 P, but again, that is MY preference. (Her non-pro friend now wants the three of us to go out together dancing...)[/QUOTE]Thanks for your insight my friend, it really depends on each person and their own tactics to be honest. Colombia is hard to get to know people especially if you are always on business, I grant you that. Also the fact that paying for it seems a simpler option here, I grant you that as well. But, if you have the confidence in yourself to spend the time and get to know the girl, you may have her in bed in a day or too.
Consider this, a good Colombian hooker can run you about 200,000 pesos, roughly 100 bucks. With less than 50 dollars I can take her out and have a decent meal twice. That is all I need in my book to get her in to bed. Its all relative the way you look at it so if you say it more expensive, its the results that count. Thanks for your advice and I believe if we share strategies we can offer a better insight to the readers of this thread.
Thanks man.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1792077]So after reading the advice of some more experienced Bogota mongers I decided to give it another run and see what comes of it.
Thurs started at Pussy House where I picked up a chica there and brought her back for the night. 300 mil plus dinner was the tab. It was good not great, as even though I had her upstairs it seems that a few beers and some dark lighting makes things look a few points better than they really are. We cut ways Fri and I was free to do the Toreador chapinero tour.
Hit all three Casas in the 71 area during the day and evening and pounded one out in each place. 30 k each, no propinas. Beer 3 k.
One was a waste of time, one was a tight 19 yr old from manzinales that I put in doggie and just went to town. And the last was a 25 yr old fitness buff. I actually told her I just wanted a show but it was so hot and her kisses were so amazing that we ended up going at it. Did a repeat later that evening as well.
Earlier that week I was on seeking arrangement and had made a few contacts. Most are pros on there though with some ridiculous pricing 400 Mil / HR to which I counter with my 150 mil 2 hrs + 250 mil a night. However did meet up with a true semi pro. A bit bigger than I like but after some intellectual conversation and a glass of wine we ended up in bed going at it. She was a real naughty one. Deep throat, spitting, slapping hair pulling. In the end got her an uber and 200 k sending her on her way...[/QUOTE]Gents. Where is the Pussy House located?
Thanks.
200,000 COP is 100 bucks? Did I miss the dollar crashing or something? 100 bucks is much more closer to 300,000 than it is 200,000 COP. 289 k actually.
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1794107]Thanks for your insight my friend, it really depends on each person and their own tactics to be honest. Colombia is hard to get to know people especially if you are always on business, I grant you that. Also the fact that paying for it seems a simpler option here, I grant you that as well. But, if you have the confidence in yourself to spend the time and get to know the girl, you may have her in bed in a day or too.
Consider this, a good Colombian hooker can run you about 200,000 pesos, roughly 100 bucks. With less than 50 dollars I can take her out and have a decent meal twice. That is all I need in my book to get her in to bed. Its all relative the way you look at it so if you say it more expensive, its the results that count. Thanks for your advice and I believe if we share strategies we can offer a better insight to the readers of this thread.
Thanks man.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JoeySmith;1794193]Gents. Where is the Pussy House located?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]CL. 61 #13-64.13 is Caracas, so if by taxi, tell him 61 and Caracas, side of the mountains, it is about 25 yards from Caracas, left side. Do not look for a sign outside, the door will be opened, there will be a bouncer at the door (does a quick check for guns) music blarring and You can see the sign Pussy House while looking in the dooor.
[QUOTE=CptBoo;1792847]Hi guys,
My advice to any of you planning on coming, do your research and get your contacts ready before you arrive, I have some of the sites if you want them. ...[/QUOTE]I tried to PM but it says you're not accepting PMs, so let me ask, what dating sites were working for you? Tinder has been the best for me as a I travel. I did have some luck with colombiancupid in Cali but not sure that site has been worth it.
Are the girls on the web sites legit like the one below?
[URL]http://www.bogotaintima.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=JK214;1795083]Are the girls on the web sites legit like the one below?
[URL]http://www.bogotaintima.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Absolutely not. Use "Search this image on Google" and you will see they are images of some adult models.
Greetings.
Since Juan Pablo's closed I notice that there is not a lot of info on mongering places in the North. Are any of the places around 85 still in business? Some of us still do not feel comfortable going to Santa Fe. Would appreciate your advice.
Juan Pablo is not closed, I was there like 3 weeks ago. It just moved a block away from it's former location, but that was already a couple of year's ago.
I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.
[QUOTE=KrisCane;1800530]I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.[/QUOTE]Pros go for 60-70K COP for "el rato" (20 minutes).
Yes it is safe for a single guy once there, getting there may not be so safe if walking (depends of what direction you are coming from and what time of day), I would not walk from or to the south after dark or to from the west (the other side of Caracas, away from mountains) no so bad walking to or from the north. Better take a taxi.
I Just arrived to Bogota this morning, and staying close to the financial district. I am not unfamiliar with the Bogota scene, but always in want of and somewhat unsuccessful in finding a good legitimate massage in Bogota.
Any information on good massage salon (s), with or without happy ending?
And by the way, I stay away from the expensive hotel spas.
Any help would be appreciated, and feel free to send me a private message.
Digits.
If anyone will be around I'll be staying at the Hilton and looking to go out and have some fun, maybe some day activities as well. Send me a message.
Thanks,
Jim
Copied and pasted from the Dominican Republic board:
[QUOTE=OldKool;1801025]I was looking at flights to Columbia and they are cheaper then going to the DR. My question is to guys who have done both places. I have done some reading but haves questions. The hotels and food are very close. I have seen Columbian women and they seem to be superior to the DR girls. A lot more plastic surgery but that is ok with me. I would like to get some opinions comparing the 2 places.[/QUOTE]I can only compare Bogota and the DR, and Medellin is really the monger capitol of Colombia.
You know the routine in Sosua, say no 30 or 40 times until you find one worth a yes. Or you work the Cupid girls and line them up and hope they show. The cost of either is about the same.
With Bogota you're dealing with a city of 8 million (census) to 12 million (according to the locals) people. Except in the Santa Fe area, the Zona de Tolerencia, it's not anything like Sosua. Overall, the people there are healthier and more attractive than Sosua, but that might just be my preference. In 10 days there, I saw one woman I would consider obese and maybe 50 who I would call fat. I spent every day riding the Transmilenio and walking the streets, so I got a good view of the population.
Prices are comparable to Sosua for food, lodging and chicas. The only real difference is that, like any big city, Bogota has places you probably should avoid. Most of the worst areas are in the south and west. I stayed north, near Parque 93, a popular nightclub and shopping area. Great hotel for about $75 per night, breakfast included.
With Sosua, everything is either walking distance or a short motoconcho ride. With Bogota, as long as you can get to the Transmilenio, everything is pretty accessible. Cost is 1300 pesos off peak and 1700 pesos during peak times. Currently it's about 3050 pesos per dollar. The cost gets you into the station. From there take any bus, transfer as many times as you want. I spent a few hours just riding and getting a bigger view of the city. The altitude might affect you. It keeps the climate very comfortable, but the lower air pressure means you'll probably get winded quicker.
There are a few things to worry about in Bogota. Taxis, especially in the Santa Fe area, can be dangerous. Always better to call for a taxi than to flag one down, especially at night. There's a scam where two men will work together, one pretending to be with the police. They lure you somewhere to verify your identification and to make sure you aren't carrying drugs or counterfeit money. A couple were arrested at the airport several months ago. One other trick is to spike your drink. This happens occasionally in the strip clubs. When you head to the bathroom or while you're distracted, someone drops something in your drink. Then they lead you to a few ATMs, then back to your hotel, you wake up the next day and everything is gone.
I didn't try exploiting the cupid scene for my Bogota trip, but I'm sure it's an option. However, I expect the girls will be less easily impressed than in the DR. Bogota is a world-class city, they are less likely to be impressed with cheap gifts. I also didn't venture into Santa Fe, as it wasn't a mongering trip, but plenty of information is available.
The different strengths, IMHO, of Sosua, Bogota and Medellin.
Straight sport fucking, go to Sosua. It's safe, cheap and everything's within reach. Maybe best of all, there's plenty of fellow mongerers to chat with when you're not otherwise occupied.
For more varied mongering, go to Medellin. The casas have been recommended by many.
For a tourist vacation with mongering opportunity, go to Bogota. Take a ride up Monserrate, visit the gold museum and other cultural sights downtown, head out on Sunday morning to experience Ciclovia, hit the discos in Zona Rosa, enjoy a burger and beer at La Hamburgesa, and an arepa at La Areparia Venezolana. And either venture to Santa Fe, or pick up some of the streetwalkers, try the various massage parlors, use the many escort services, or use your magic on cupid to keep your bed occupied.
It really all depends on what you want to get out of the trip.
[QUOTE=KrisCane;1800530]I will be in Bogota end of January and staying just by University, seen on map that Pussy House is pretty much close, anyone know what's a average price of pros there and if it's save for single guy. I will be late so think to pass Red Light District as heard many opinion it can be quite rough at night.[/QUOTE]According to locals you should avoid Pussy House, too many bad experiences.
Red Light District is not that bad, I recommend you to walk down Calle 24 to arrive and leave the place, it is very safe. Within Zona Roja just walk fast and stay alert, I did not have any single problem during more than one week going there that way. Keep in hand some 500 COP coins to keep away hard feelings from guys asking for money, I hardly gave five coins (not even a dollar) to those who asked for money and they were really grateful.
Just keep in mind "No hay que dar papaya" (show valuable objects or walk distracted) to not get robbed.
I hope this is helpful.
[QUOTE=Digits;1801461]I Just arrived to Bogota this morning, and staying close to the financial district. I am not unfamiliar with the Bogota scene, but always in want of and somewhat unsuccessful in finding a good legitimate massage in Bogota.
Any information on good massage salon (s), with or without happy ending?
And by the way, I stay away from the expensive hotel spas.
Any help would be appreciated, and feel free to send me a private message.
Digits.[/QUOTE]I have a professional masseuse who works in a hospital as a physical therapist. She's Smokin Hot, speaks no English and gives a great deep tissue 1 hour massage for about $30. I've been seeing her for a few years now. Did try for a H. E. A few times but she is very professional and I got nowhere. I never pressed it for fear of losing her as a therapist. She will come to your apartment.
PM me for her info.
[QUOTE=Albarios;1802076]According to locals you should avoid Pussy House[/QUOTE]Would be interested to know about the "bad experiences" been there numerous times and never had an issue, locals are spoiled by Santa Fe, there is some pussy house bitching in one of the local hobby information boards, because the talent is not as good as Santa Fe or as good as it used to be. To me Pussy House remains a good, inexpensive and safer option than Santa Fe.(and easier to get to if you stay in Chapinero or the North side)
To me having a good time there depends on you. Manage your expectations, , have a good and fun attitude (don't be stuck up, flirt with the ladies, they like that), move around, don't be stationary, go see what is going on on the second floor, walk around the first. Try not to be in a rush, take your time, some jewels sometimes appear from the woodwork. Most important, when you see or find somthing you like, pull the trigger, don't wait (made that mistake a few times), call her over, walk to her, get a waiter to go get her, buy her a beer or whatever.
I should be there is a couple of weeks, will post an update when I complete the trip.
Is the Artisan by Marriott friendly?
OK, last I knew China and Colombia had pretty stable relations, I'm pretty sure the Artisan by Marriot is open to Chinese visitors! LOL! Ok, you had it coming since this is your first post! Obviously you meant is the hotel chica friendly, but your post has been sitting out there with a bullseye on it! Welcome to the forum. Here's my advice to you.
1) Take the direct approach and contact the hotel via email and ask what their policy is regarding guests / visitors. Since it's a Marriot, you'll probably be able to email them directly.
2) Read the Forum. ! There might be a post about this property. But I do believe there is a post or section on here specifically dedicated to chica friendly hotels.
3) You can probably sneak the girl in after you get a good lay of the land. I. e. Know where elevators are vs. Front desk. Is there a lounge or seating in the lobby that you can interact beforehand so as to not to draw the immediate attention of the front desk. Word of caution though. Chica friendly hotels usually ask to see the girls passport and quasi register her for your protection. They may even hold her ID until she leaves for your protection, making a call to your room to make sure you're ok before letting her leave. Again, read the forum for posts regarding this process.
4) If the property isn't 100% chica friendly, they may charge a modest guest fee, which is still a deal considering the USD vs. The COP exchange rate. And lastly.
5) Keep your valuables (watch, money, passport, whatever) pretty well hidden and out of site. An innocent visit to the bathroom on your part, or that quick shower you feel you need to take. Can have your wallet be gone. And you might not realize it till the next morning. And by all means. Be friendly to any Chinese you may encounter in the hotel!
[QUOTE=Tbubr;1805663]Is the Artisan by Marriott friendly?[/QUOTE]
So I've been researching Medellin and signed up to colombiacupid a week or so ago as that's where I planned to go. Was suppose to go this weekend to Medellin however a lady I've been chatting to from Bogota told me last night that she'll be in Medellin today and go back to Bogota tomorrow. Since the only flight I found arriving in Medellin today lands at around 10 pm we'd only have one night together so she said her son isn't at home and she's home alone all weekend in Bogota and she'll come pick me up at the airport and I can stay with her. This woman is smoking hot! I'm just 27 and I believe she is 30 although on my profile I put that I'm 32 I think. (From what I can tell Latinas love older men) Anyway hoping she hasn't told white lies as I have, I really hardly know her and have barely spoken to her so who knows. She says she's a lawyer so I'm hoping she's not a chapiadora though all women are I know. Just hoping she doesn't ask for money. HAs anyone done this, met someone at the airport for the first time in Colombia, I know men that have done that in other countries, just wondering if I should be worried about her intentions. Can anyone recommend a hotel? I will stay at her house from tomorrow til Sunday, then I guess stay in Bogota a few more days and then catch a flight to medellin. I really have no idea about where to go for P4 P in Bogota other than santa fe which I hear is just dangerous. So any help would be really appreciated so I can make the most of the trip.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808442]So I've been researching Medellin and signed up to colombiacupid a week or so ago as that's where I planned to go. Was suppose to go this weekend to
Medellin however a lady I've been chatting to from Bogota told me last night that she'll be in Medellin today and go back to Bogota tomorrow. Since the only flight I found arriving in Medellin
today lands at around 10 pm we'd only have one night together so she said her son isn't at home and she's home alone all weekend in Bogota and she'll come pick me up at the airport and I
can stay with her. This woman is smoking hot! I'm just 27 and I believe she is 30 although on my profile I put that I'm 32 I think. (From what I can tell Latinas love older men) Anyway hoping
she hasn't told white lies as I have, I really hardly know her and have barely spoken to her so who knows. She says she's a lawyer so I'm hoping she's not a chapiadora though all women are
I know. Just hoping she doesn't ask for money. HAs anyone done this, met someone at the airport for the first time in Colombia, I know men that have done that in other countries,
just wondering if I should be worried about her intentions. Can anyone recommend a hotel? I will stay at her house from tomorrow til Sunday,
then I guess stay in Bogota a few more days and then catch a flight to medellin. I really have no idea about where to go for P4 P in Bogota other than santa fe which I hear is just dangerous.
So any help would be really appreciated so I can make the most of the trip.[/QUOTE]Latinas Love Money.
Santa Fe is not dangerous for the average man.
This hotel is in Chapinero.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Grace-Hotel/646336122123645?pnref=story[/URL]
This Hotel is downtown near Santa fe.
[URL]http://www.ibis.com/gb/hotel-7318-ibis-bogota-museo/index.shtml[/URL]
Guide services available-- I'm an American in Bogota for 5 yrs.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808442]So I've been researching Medellin and signed up to colombiacupid a week or so ago as that's where I planned to go. Was suppose to go this weekend to Medellin however a lady I've been chatting to from Bogota ...she's home alone all weekend in Bogota and she'll come pick me up at the airport and I can stay with her. This woman is smoking hot! I'm just 27 and I believe she is 30 although on my profile I put that I'm 32 I think. () Anyway hoping she hasn't told white lies as I have, I really hardly know her and have barely spoken to her so who knows. She says she's a lawyer so I'm hoping she's not a chapiadora though all women are I know. Just hoping she doesn't ask for money. HAs anyone done this, met someone at the airport for the first time in Colombia,[/QUOTE]Why did you feel the need to lie? By and large I have found Colombianas to be pretty reliable women. And that is what I like about them the most. I can not recall having one tell me they would do something and not do it. My first time going to Colombia was in 2005 to see a lawyer that I met on Latin American Cupid. She was from Cucuta and rode the bus 14 hours to Bogota before I arrived. She did not speak English and I did not speak Spanish. But I spoke Portuguese and had a pocket dictionary, which helped a lot with communication. (Hey. Got to start somewhere.) Her and her male cousin who lives in Bogota met me at the airport. At the end of my trip she did ask me to buy her a plane ticket home to which I refused. I did not know a damn thing about Colombia then, but knowing what I know now I would have done it. For one, I didn't know that the ticket was probably no more than US$70. Since then I have met plenty of other women at the airport for the first time and I am now close to fluent in Spanish. No horror stories and no taxi kidnappings or robberies so far.
Doing as I say and not as I do, I would not recommend you put all of your eggs into one basket. Plan for the worst and hope for the best. It looks like you already have Santa Fe as a back-up which is a damn good plan. There is nothing dangerous about it. Maybe to people who are not used to the inner city or being approached by an occasional alcoholic or drug addict, then it could appear that way. But I have never seen anything adverse happen there.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808442]From what I can tell Latinas love older men[/QUOTE]How have you come to that conclusion? In my experience women are women the world over and if they like a person then age matters less. They are not superficial like most of the guys on this forum who swear they must have a woman 18-20 years old, maximum 50 kg, no stretch marks, and no kids. I am 43 years old. I have been going to Latin America starting with Brazil in 2001. I have been older than some of my Latinas and some have been older than me. Again, just like anywhere else in the world.
Thanks mr E.
To answer your question I lied because in Latin culture from what I understand women tend to go with older men for two reasons, 1 for financial stability and most importantly because in their culture Latin men tend to get a younger wife after the first one of the same age later down the line. This goes across all classes of Latin women and wealth, it's just how they think. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Anyway I'm able to be online now because I have had to change my flight for tomorrow as got stopped for speeding and had to pay a ridiculous fine in the USA, I know if I had been in England they would have taken my license and given me some points so at least I'm in America but the fine was ridiculously huge, speeding and turning without signalling, and because I'm a foreign national I had to go to the police station to pay there and then so it couldn't wait till I come back. Live and learn, at least no accidents and no loss of license.
Back on topic I looked at the reports of distinction page and there are no reports In There for Bogota that date after 2013 so can someone point out to recent and decent reports, I started reading from page 21 from this thread but I'm not seeing any decent info. Could someone take the time to pm me with relevant and concise info on Bogota.
Also the friend I was suppose to meet today is actually a lawyer too and she sent me her flight info and to my surprise she has a doctorate, it will be nice to go to a country where it seems people are generally well educated as opposed to Dominican Republic.
Also if anyone is interested in cheap flights or hotels you can pm me for a quote, I hope it's ok to say this here.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808827]To answer your question I lied because in Latin culture from what I understand women tend to go with older men for two reasons, 1 for financial stability and most importantly because in their culture Latin men tend to get a younger wife after the first one of the same age later down the line. This goes across all classes of Latin women and wealth, it's just how they think. Correct me if I'm wrong. [/QUOTE]No you are not wrong, Latinas generally speaking like older men but no need to lie about it like E. Said. Its also not really the age per se that they dig its the maturity and financial stability that an older man usually brings to the table. However if say a 24 yr old guy acts mature, dresses nice, has a stable career the Colombians will be all over that. What they hate is guys their age that have zero pesos in their pocket, have mullets for a haircut, etc. Bottom line-- be who you are.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808827]I started reading from page 21 from this thread but I'm not seeing any decent info. Could someone take the time to pm me with relevant and concise info on Bogota.[/QUOTE]Really? 21 pages? I guess you missed this post 11 pages back hidden under "chica friendly hotels".
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1766204[/URL]#post1766204.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1808827]Also the friend I was suppose to meet today is actually a lawyer too and she sent me her flight info and to my surprise she has a doctorate, it will be nice to go to a country where it seems people are generally well educated as opposed to Dominican Republic.[/QUOTE]I agree it will be nice to spend some time with an educated Latina however you are not only putting all your eggs in that one basket you are putting the bacon, the toast and everything else. Why make such a solid commitment with someone as you said "I've hardly talked to" ? Meet her for dinner and see from there.
You seem too scared to go down to Santa Fe, here is an escort agency that some friends of mine highly recommended, my experience however was so so, as you can also read 11 pages ago!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1766962[/URL]#post1766962.
ClubTed has several reports from 8 pages back as well! More than you need to get started. The information is here, not a lot of as say Cartagena or Medellin but its here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1778067[/URL]#post1778067.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1808900]Really? 21 pages? I guess you missed this post 11 pages back hidden under "chica friendly hotels".
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1766204[/URL]#post1766204.
I agree it will be nice to spend some time with an educated Latina however you are not only putting all your eggs in that one basket you are putting the bacon, the toast and everything else. Why make such a solid commitment with someone as you said "I've hardly talked to" ? Meet her for dinner and see from there.
You seem too scared to go down to Santa Fe, here is an escort agency that some friends of mine highly recommended, my experience however was so so, as you can also read 11 pages ago!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1766962[/URL]#post1766962.
ClubTed has several reports from 8 pages back as well! More than you need to get started. The information is here, not a lot of as say Cartagena or Medellin but its here.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1778067[/URL]#post1778067.[/QUOTE]I touched down in Bogota yesterday afternoon, (left my brand new coat in my closet so that was smart). My new friend came to pick me up from the airport, what I noticed is that driving here is a real problem, as in too much traffic, the drive to her house in chia took over and hour. And then we went out for dinner it just took forever getting there and back. Friend is real nice, looks better than in pics and we get on well, but I'm dying to get to medellin because of the cold and the traffic, I can't imagine myself going up and down Bogota purely because of the traffic. Can anyone suggest where to get a sim card so I can start using internet when outside her house mainly for GPS. Lastly I can't get to medellin until Tuesday as my ticket and hotel guy is taking the weekend off, so he'l book my ticket and hotel on Monday for Tuesday, though I already booked a hotel in Medellin since Wednesday but had issues travelling on Wednesday to medellin and so booked ticket to leave Thursday but as you guys read I couldn't make that flight so here we are. Can someone suggest where to monger near chia, as I'll be here til Tuesday I guess. I will look at the Bogota North map.
[QUOTE=ILikeBigButts3;1809527] but I'm dying to get to medellin because of the cold and the traffic. Lastly I can't get to medellin until Tuesday as my ticket and hotel guy is taking the weekend off, so he'l book my ticket and hotel on Monday for Tuesday, though I already booked a hotel in Medellin since Wednesday but had issues travelling on Wednesday to medellin and so booked ticket to leave Thursday but as you guys read I couldn't make that flight so here we are. Can someone suggest where to monger near chia, as I'll be here til Tuesday I guess. I will look at the Bogota North map.[/QUOTE]Why can't your lawyer friend help you find a local sim card? When you were with her in your car that was the perfect time to ask her for help on a sim card.
What do you mean your "ticket and hotel guy" ? My ticket and hotel guy is [URL]kayak.com[/URL] or [URL]expedia.com[/URL] or google flights. First half of November I was first in Bogota and then in Medellin. After a week in lovely medellin I was craving this sweet little thing in Bogota that squirts all over me and I used my ticket and hotel guy ([URL]kayak.com[/URL]) and 5 minutes later had a round trip ticket to Bogota for $120 leaving the next day and my hotel. Done. 5 minutes. You seem to be making things a shit load more complicated than it needs to be.
Same thing with asking about mongering opportunities around Chia. Just use the escort service I provided you with, doesn't matter where the fuck you are in Bogota they will come to you.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1809982]Why can't your lawyer friend help you find a local sim card? When you were with her in your car that was the perfect time to ask her for help on a sim card.
What do you mean your "ticket and hotel guy" ? My ticket and hotel guy is [URL]kayak.com[/URL] or [URL]expedia.com[/URL] or google flights. First half of November I was first in Bogota and then in Medellin. After a week in lovely medellin I was craving this sweet little thing in Bogota that squirts all over me and I used my ticket and hotel guy ([URL]kayak.com[/URL]) and 5 minutes later had a round trip ticket to Bogota for $120 leaving the next day and my hotel. Done. 5 minutes. You seem to be making things a shit load more complicated than it needs to be.
Same thing with asking about mongering opportunities around Chia. Just use the escort service I provided you with, doesn't matter where the fuck you are in Bogota they will come to you.[/QUOTE]Hey mate, Yes she helped me get a TIGO SIM, thing is she is with me 24/7, and I am here til Tuesday because tomorrow my hotel and flight guy can book hotel and flight for me, I get every flight or hotel at half price as he works for expedia. Anyway she's gone to pick up some people at the airport and I have a couple hours to kill. I popped a cialis and even though I've already been laid today I will do try and find some P4 P. Is everything closed today? Trying hard to find the north Bogota map and make some calls, or is my best bet santa fe right now (around 8 pm on Sunday).
So guys, I was doing business for my company in Bogota, and I decided to have an adventure. Being a family man and all, it is hard to do it while at home. But I never had done that before, so I was really nervous. Besides, it was my first time in Colombia so I was a little concerned about the dangers. I started checking agencies 'cause I did not want to go to a brothel (not my thing). So I found several and started calling and sending whatsapp messages. Most of them did not have English service so it was really hard communicate. Finally, I ended with two options: Niisha why EliteColombianEscorts. In Niisha I booked Nataly and she came to my hotel. The problem is that for safety most hotel running identity checks using the national ID, and when she came to the lobby I had to go down and talk to the hotel staff. It was a little embarrassing. So, she finally went up, and it was wonderful. She has a perfect body and also a really, really pretty face. In terms of sex, it was OK. She has technique in which touches certain tantric points, and it makes you come really easy (like when you were a teenager. Remember? Next day, I wrote to EliteColombianEscorts. They use whasapp and it is more comfortable (although you got to remember erasing the chats after). The difference with Niisha is that I had to call, because they do not have whatsapp service, and it was a little difficult because they do have an English line, but still pronunciation for most Colombians is not perfect. Well, so in Elite Colombian Escorts I booked Diana, and they offered to arrange the meeting in a local love hotel called Dandy. So, as I was going all the way, I asked for a room with jacuzzi. They arrange for me to be picked up, and when I arrived to the hotel they were waiting for me. Once in the room, the nice surprise came when this gorgeous woman arrived. She is like a brunette version of Esperanza Gomez. The way she fucked is amazing. She has this blowjob style were she rotates her tongue and then goes deep (I am getting hard just writing this), and when she is on top of you she moves really fast. Anyway, I just wanted to share this experience.
John
I usually spend Christmas with family, but everyone is going out of town this year and it's actually cheaper for me to go to Bogota. I'm thinking about the 24-27. I have been to Bogota numerous times over the past 18 months, but I have never been during.
Christmas. Does anyone have any experience? I usually spend my time in Santa Fe. I've been to other parts of town, but once I got brave enough to go to Santa Fe, I can't go anywhere else.
Thanks in advance for any advice.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1813040]I usually spend Christmas with family, but everyone is going out of town this year and it's actually cheaper for me to go to Bogota. I'm thinking about the 24-27.[/QUOTE]You do not want to be in Latin America during Christmas and New Years. That is family time for them.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1813040]I usually spend Christmas with family, but everyone is going out of town this year and it's actually cheaper for me to go to Bogota. I'm thinking about the 24-27. I have been to Bogota numerous times over the past 18 months, but I have never been during.
Christmas. Does anyone have any experience? I usually spend my time in Santa Fe. I've been to other parts of town, but once I got brave enough to go to Santa Fe, I can't go anywhere else.
Thanks in advance for any advice.[/QUOTE]Things are slow in Bogota during The holidays, there will be working girls that will be available but more than likely slim pickings. You may want to consider Cali, la Feria de Cali is from Dec 25-30. My guess is that there will be a lot of action there as there is always on events like that.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1813221]Things are slow in Bogota during The holidays, there will be working girls that will be available but more than likely slim pickings. You may want to consider Cali, la Feria de Cali is from Dec 25-30. My guess is that there will be a lot of action there as there is always on events like that.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I will look at the cost of getting to Cali. If not, I just saw a great flight for El Salvador. I'm just trying to get to a warm Spanish speaking country with low costs for the Holiday.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1813390]Thanks for the advice. I will look at the cost of getting to Cali. If not, I just saw a great flight for El Salvador. I'm just trying to get to a warm Spanish speaking country with low costs for the Holiday.[/QUOTE]Be careful in El Salvador.
[QUOTE=JohnPayne;1810834]So guys, I was doing business for my company in Bogota, and I decided to have an adventure. Being a family man and all, it is hard to do it while at home. But I never had done that before, so I was really nervous. Besides, it was my first time in Colombia so I was a little concerned about the dangers. I started checking agencies 'cause I did not want to go to a brothel (not my thing). So I found several and started calling and sending whatsapp messages. Most of them did not have English service so it was really hard communicate. Finally, I ended with two options: Niisha why EliteColombianEscorts. In Niisha I booked Nataly and she came to my hotel. The problem is that for safety most hotel running identity checks using the national ID, and when she came to the lobby I had to go down and talk to the hotel staff. It was a little embarrassing. So, she finally went up, and it was wonderful. She has a perfect body and also a really, really pretty face. In terms of sex, it was OK. She has technique in which touches certain tantric points, and it makes you come really easy (like when you were a teenager. Remember? Next day, I wrote to EliteColombianEscorts. They use whasapp and it is more comfortable (although you got to remember erasing the chats after). The difference with Niisha is that I had to call, because they do not have whatsapp service, and it was a little difficult because they do have an English line, but still pronunciation for most Colombians is not perfect. Well, so in Elite Colombian Escorts I booked Diana, and they offered to arrange the meeting in a local love hotel called Dandy. So, as I was going all the way, I asked for a room with jacuzzi. They arrange for me to be picked up, and when I arrived to the hotel they were waiting for me. Once in the room, the nice surprise came when this gorgeous woman arrived. She is like a brunette version of Esperanza Gomez. The way she fucked is amazing. She has this blowjob style were she rotates her tongue and then goes deep (I am getting hard just writing this), and when she is on top of you she moves really fast. Anyway, I just wanted to share this experience.
John[/QUOTE]Your first time but not your last. You got a taste of the unforgiving fruit and yes you will be back, again and again. You only live once! You can't take money with you to the grave but you can take your memories! LOL.
And after a while but before you realize it meeting a girl in the hotel lobby, or escorting her out on the town, or heading in one of the brothels (as you call it) does and will become second hand and natural. Enjoy it all!
The Tall Man.
What are the best web-sites for connecting with "normal" latin american girls (not escorts).
I see "[URL]LatinAmericaCupid.com[/URL]" mentioned, but haven't set up a profile there yet.
A couple of web-sites I checked out were big international sites, but had very few LA or Bolivian listings.
(although I am going to Bolivia, I am asking the question here, because there is very little traffic in the Bolivia forum).
In the past I have used HI5 to connect with LA / Caribbean girls, but that doesn't seem as good as it used to be.
I don't speak Spanish, so need a site where women are looking to meet foreign men and have some English, or at least the site works in English.
Thanks for any advice.
GT.
Hi all,
Landing in Bogota in 6 hours from now. Will be there only for 2 days. I know I should RTTF and not ask for such basic help.
But, am on a time crunch, so thought of posting it directly.
I won't have a phone number (though Whatsapp will work) and I cannot have the girl visit me at my hotel.
So, I am looking for incall locations where I could get service. Looking for high-end girls (cost no issue, willing to spend 300-400 K per hour).
Could you please suggest some good locations where I can get incall service. Until now, I have stumbled upon info on some massage parlors such as Absolute spa, Mezzanine locations (Opposite Dann carlton), One relax center. Any other great ones out there? Or buildings that I can just walk into for a good selection?
Santa Fe looks like an option, but not sure of the quality or safety there. Usually prefer a bit more discreet option (such as the massage parlors above).
RTFF. Seriously. You are visiting during a time where there are not as many options as other times of the year. If you prefer a more discreet option, go with an MP. Can't exactly give you choices when you can't indicate where you are staying. It's only one of the biggest cities in the Western Hemisphere with 10 million people. So RTFF. Since you don't know about Santa Fe, it's safe to assume this is your first visit to Bogota. Don't go to Santa Fe if you can't or don't want to take the time to read up on it. The last time I was there an obvious first time visitor from South East Asia was walking around with his wallet bulging from his back pocket, wearing a gold watch, and walking around looking at his google maps app on what appeared to be a gold Samsung S6 Edge. You don't want to learn the hard way, and your post indicates you need to spend some time reading the last 8-10 pages.
[QUOTE=Rahulmangla2009;1818167]Hi all,
Landing in Bogota in 6 hours from now. Will be there only for 2 days. I know I should RTTF and not ask for such basic help.
But, am on a time crunch, so thought of posting it directly.
I won't have a phone number (though Whatsapp will work) and I cannot have the girl visit me at my hotel.
So, I am looking for incall locations where I could get service. Looking for high-end girls (cost no issue, willing to spend 300-400 K per hour).
Could you please suggest some good locations where I can get incall service. Until now, I have stumbled upon info on some massage parlors such as Absolute spa, Mezzanine locations (Opposite Dann carlton), One relax center. Any other great ones out there? Or buildings that I can just walk into for a good selection?
Santa Fe looks like an option, but not sure of the quality or safety there. Usually prefer a bit more discreet option (such as the massage parlors above).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Puntz79;1818188]RTFF. Seriously. You are visiting during a time where there are not as many options as other times of the year. If you prefer a more discreet option, go with an MP. Can't exactly give you choices when you can't indicate where you are staying. It's only one of the biggest cities in the Western Hemisphere with 10 million people. So RTFF. Since you don't know about Santa Fe, it's safe to assume this is your first visit to Bogota. Don't go to Santa Fe if you can't or don't want to take the time to read up on it. The last time I was there an obvious first time visitor from South East Asia was walking around with his wallet bulging from his back pocket, wearing a gold watch, and walking around looking at his google maps app on what appeared to be a gold Samsung S6 Edge. You don't want to learn the hard way, and your post indicates you need to spend some time reading the last 8-10 pages.[/QUOTE]Seriously guys, wouldn't it be a whole lot easier and less typing to just help a brotha out instead of chastising him? He covered off ad apologized in advance for his short timeline and his basic request.
Less work and would be a whole lot nicer.
Wouldn't it also have been easier for him to have read the forum, rather than deciding in the hours before boarding a flight to such a city like Bogota that he's going to just throw out this question without even giving details such as what area he will be in? And if you read my answer, while it's not exactly giving so much detail. It's still answering his question. This time of year is slow, not as many options due to chicas being with families, don't go to Santa Fe if this is your first time, stick to MP's. I can't exactly give the guy other options if he can't even say where he's staying. It's a big city, and location becomes even more important if you are going to be visiting during a time where it's much slower than other times of the year. There are lots of people who ask basic questions, that have been covered many many times, and we can't always be repeating answers if the person can't take the time to go back and read a bit. So is it easier for him to just have someone take the time and answer his questions? Yes. Is it easier for us? Of course not.
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;1818191]Seriously guys, wouldn't it be a whole lot easier and less typing to just help a brotha out instead of chastising him? He covered off ad apologized in advance for his short timeline and his basic request.
Less work and would be a whole lot nicer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Rahulmangla2009;1818167]Hi all,
Landing in Bogota in 6 hours from now. Will be there only for 2 days. I know I should RTTF and not ask for such basic help.
But, am on a time crunch, so thought of posting it directly.
I won't have a phone number (though Whatsapp will work) and I cannot have the girl visit me at my hotel.
So, I am looking for incall locations where I could get service. Looking for high-end girls (cost no issue, willing to spend 300-400 K per hour).
[/QUOTE]Ok, here are my. 02 cents.
If you are willing to spend 300 k for a girl, I doubt you will find what you are looking for (good looking, quality GFE service) at the mezzanines or SPAs. Though that is an option, I offer you two other better options for your consideration.
1) Go to a motel an order in from SolitasPara Ti. Motel I recommend "Amarte" on Caracas and 62. The room will cost you 60-70 K for 3 hours (6 on weekdays), you will Get a room at the hotel and give your room # to the agency before they will send the girl, usually will arrive in 1 hour or less. Motel does not ask for an Id, you ask for a room, they send you to a specific floor (depends on availability), an attendant meets you there and shows you the room, pay the attendant once you get a room and that's it. Girls from Solitas para ti (very good looking, young and usually good service for an hour) will cost between 140 k and 250 k (most around 180 k) depending on who chose.
2) look for independentes, some of them have incalls, some of them you will have to provide a location (Amarte). Lately I have been g etting girls that advertise in twitter, so if you do not have twitter, get it. Solitas para ti advertises in twitter with pictures, rates and videos of the girls (@solitasparati), here are a couple of independents with incalls Carol (@carol20 saenz) 180 k, she is a good time. Anaix (@paulaja52200387) 200 K, not sure but I believe Mariana Camacho (@paisamariana) has a place, she is 250 k, others that will need to come to you are, Carolina Hernandez (@carito_amores) great looking and sweet, 200 k. Tatiana Gomez (has a place) (@deliciosa227); Alejandra Soto (@ alejan14244597). And there are many others, add these to tweeter and explore who they are following and / or who follows them to get links to other girls.
WARNING. The independents may work out of apartments or hotels that may be in questionable parts of town.
Make sure to know where you are going to. Ask the hotel concierge how safe is that area.
You did not mention in your post how your Spanish is. If you have zero Spanish skill, good luck, you may struggle.
Hope that helps. Do report back.
Very helpful to the guy. Nice to see you spent your time sharing your local knowledge like a buddy, rather than scolding him like a nagging wife!
[QUOTE=Toreador;1818203]Ok, here are my. 02 cents.
If you are willing to spend 300 k for a girl, I doubt you will find what you are looking for (good looking, quality GFE service) at the mezzanines or SPAs. Though that is an option, I offer you two other better options for your consideration.
1) Go to a motel an order in from SolitasPara Ti. Motel I recommend "Amarte" on Caracas and 62. The room will cost you 60-70 K for 3 hours (6 on weekdays), you will Get a room at the hotel and give your room # to the agency before they will send the girl, usually will arrive in 1 hour or less. Motel does not ask for an Id, you ask for a room, they send you to a specific floor (depends on availability), an attendant meets you there and shows you the room, pay the attendant once you get a room and that's it. Girls from Solitas para ti (very good looking, young and usually good service for an hour) will cost between 140 k and 250 k (most around 180 k) depending on who chose..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;1818246]Very helpful to the guy. Nice to see you spent your time sharing your local knowledge like a buddy, rather than scolding him like a nagging wife![/QUOTE]Thanks a lot for the help! And am sorry for not RTTF. It happens to be a sudden quick business trip, but am free for next 2 days. So, didn't get the time to explore the forum info much.
Am staying near Carrera 11, Calle 90. Nil Spanish skills.
The Maps are the latest info.
The Lists are behind time.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rahulmangla2009;1818167]Hi all,
Landing in Bogota in 6 hours from now. Will be there only for 2 days. I know I should RTTF and not ask for such basic help.
But, am on a time crunch, so thought of posting it directly.
I won't have a phone number (though Whatsapp will work) and I cannot have the girl visit me at my hotel.
So, I am looking for incall locations where I could get service. Looking for high-end girls (cost no issue, willing to spend 300-400 K per hour).
Could you please suggest some good locations where I can get incall service. Until now, I have stumbled upon info on some massage parlors such as Absolute spa, Mezzanine locations (Opposite Dann carlton), One relax center. Any other great ones out there? Or buildings that I can just walk into for a good selection?
Santa Fe looks like an option, but not sure of the quality or safety there. Usually prefer a bit more discreet option (such as the massage parlors above).[/QUOTE]
Hello gentlemen,
First time coming to Bogota for 2 nights only and would really appreciate some info.
I did a lot of searching and couldn't find specific to what I'm looking for.
I found like a blog in Spanish relating all the different types of mongering options in Bogota and it mentioned these as the highest rated in terms of quality and price:
La mansion, Loutron, flirt Bogotá, Absolut spa, 's bar, Lalo's, Juan Pablo's and Angelo's VIP.
From the search I did on this thread about these places, I couldn't find anything recent and reliable.
I'm looking for the highest quality in girls with not bad service. Prices could be high.
Where should I start my search? I'm planning on going out both nights although one night I might consider going to a regular nightclub.
I prefer strip club type setting where you can see all the girls, have drinks, listen to music, chat and then make the selection.
Thanks fellas.
There should be a few on this map around Zona Rosa.
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/url]
[QUOTE=PDawg23;1818539]Hello gentlemen,
First time coming to Bogota for 2 nights only and would really appreciate some info.
I did a lot of searching and couldn't find specific to what I'm looking for.
I found like a blog in Spanish relating all the different types of mongering options in Bogota and it mentioned these as the highest rated in terms of quality and price:
La mansion, Loutron, flirt Bogot, Absolut spa, 's bar, Lalo's, Juan Pablo's and Angelo's VIP.
From the search I did on this thread about these places, I couldn't find anything recent and reliable.
I'm looking for the highest quality in girls with not bad service. Prices could be high.
Where should I start my search? I'm planning on going out both nights although one night I might consider going to a regular nightclub.
I prefer strip club type setting where you can see all the girls, have drinks, listen to music, chat and then make the selection.
Thanks fellas.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1818753]There should be a few on this map around Zona Rosa.
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/url][/QUOTE]Are the ones listed on the map all pretty much a no rip off place? Since there are a lot of rip offs in the strip club category.
If you are looking for the "highest quality in girls" in places like that, expect a significant upcharge from them to begin with. You have to know how to negotiate. It is difficult because some of this girls are extremilly hot, let the big head do the talking. What you need to know is that if they quote you 500 k - 600 K to start with, you may get them down to 250 k-300 k. You have to know they are a mix of pro and non-pros. They know they are hot, know you want them and will try to get the most they can out of you. The earlier in the evening the more difficult will be to get them down to a fair rate. Many of these girls are a one trick and they are done for the night. The later it gets, the more desperate they get and the easier is to negotiate. Dont talk to only one. Show them you are in control.
Warning. Extreme hotness is no indication of quality of service. Again, know how to negotiate services up front. Good luck.
P.S. You can find hotness And good service in other "cheaper" locations, prices at those locations have little if any upcharge since they are All pros.
Hi,
I am visiting Bogota and staying at the W hotel and would appreciate any helpful suggestions anyone has.
I am just here for 3 days and am looking for some female companionship and although I usually just ask the concierge if they can help out they don't seem to get the hint.
Am I staying at the wrong hotel or simply this is not done here?
Also I would prefer an independent to come to my room rather than go to somewhere in Bogota because its my first time here and very much stand out as a lost gringo.
Any local agencies that coordinate independents?
Thanks.
[URL]http://solitasparati.com[/URL]
First of all, I know nothing about Bogota. I have never been there, but I am interested in someday doing so.
These are the better reviews on the big American escort site. While it is normally an excellent site, it does have fake reviews for a South America. I got burned by one for Santiago, Chile. So I cannot vouch for these reviews at all, but this is all I can find, so I thought I would send you the links.
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/girl.php?e=Paula[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/detalle-modelo.php?kd=73[/URL]
[URL]https://www.worldelitecompanions.com/about/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Wjeffurry;1820029]Hi,
I am visiting Bogota and staying at the W hotel and would appreciate any helpful suggestions anyone has.
I am just here for 3 days and am looking for some female companionship and although I usually just ask the concierge if they can help out they don't seem to get the hint.
Am I staying at the wrong hotel or simply this is not done here?
Also I would prefer an independent to come to my room rather than go to somewhere in Bogota because its my first time here and very much stand out as a lost gringo.
Any local agencies that coordinate independents?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Hello,
I have RTFFed 25 pages or so, but it is a lot to remember, so please excuse me I am repetitive.
1. Have you had good or bad experiences with women at [URL]co.mileroticos.com[/URL] in Bogota? I see a few that I would like to visit or have visit me (pics I like, good come-ONS, lower prices). I'm guessing the chance of trouble is higher than businesses like [URL]solitasparati.com[/URL].
2. Do you carry condoms or do all the women have them.
3. I'm not clear on domicilio-address. Does it mean she comes to you or you go to her?
4. Have you gotten an STD in Bogota? How common do you think it is, with condom?
Looking forward to having good news to report.
Thanks,
BL
[QUOTE=BabeLove;1820079]Hello,
I have RTFFed 25 pages or so, but it is a lot to remember, so please excuse me I am repetitive.
1. Have you had good or bad experiences with women at [URL]co.mileroticos.com[/URL] in Bogota? I see a few that I would like to visit or have visit me (pics I like, good come-ONS, lower prices). I'm guessing the chance of trouble is higher than businesses like [URL]solitasparati.com[/URL].
2. Do you carry condoms or do all the women have them.
3. I'm not clear on domicilio-address. Does it mean she comes to you or you go to her?
4. Have you gotten an STD in Bogota? How common do you think it is, with condom?
Looking forward to having good news to report.
Thanks,
BL[/QUOTE]1. Have you had good or bad experiences with women at [URL]co.mileroticos.com[/URL] in Bogota? I see a few that I would like to visit or have visit me (pics I like, good come-ONS, lower prices). I'm guessing the chance of trouble is higher than businesses like [URL]solitasparati.com[/URL].
A. Milerotics is a hit and miss, most of them are legit, a large number are fake pics and services offered are again a hit and miss. Best of luck if you do not speak Spanish.
2. Do you carry condoms or do all the women have them.
A. In most instances (98% of time) they carry them, however locals recommend to bring your own as the what the girls carry are lower quality. I bring a stash of Trojans from the US when I visit Bogota.
3. I'm not clear on domicilio-address. Does it mean she comes to you or you go to her?
A. Domicilio or solo a domicilio is they come to you, to your hotel, apartment or you must rent an "amoblado o motel". In most cases, they will not come to you unless you have a specific location with room number. Most of the girls in Mileroticos are domicilio only, a good number of the girls in mileroticos are agencies that have in calls, a large number in the lower Chapinero area (not very safe). I met an independent from milerotic once at a street, and fro. M there we had to go find a place. It was a pain in the ass as she arrived late, and had advertised she had a place and didn't, so heads up.
4. Have you gotten an STD in Bogota? How common do you think it is, with condom?
A. No, and do not know but my guess is low, girls at spas and agencies are required to take classes and be tested (or so I have been told), a good number of the girls (higher percentage than the US in my opinion), will no do uncovered BJ, if they do, often there is an upcharge if you ask. Often you see the girls advertised "todo con proteccion" (everything covered).
Best of luck, do report back.
I guess you did not see the List Thread?
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[QUOTE=WJefFurry;1820029]Hi,
I am visiting Bogota and staying at the W hotel and would appreciate any helpful suggestions anyone has.
I am just here for 3 days and am looking for some female companionship and although I usually just ask the concierge if they can help out they don't seem to get the hint.
Am I staying at the wrong hotel or simply this is not done here?
Also I would prefer an independent to come to my room rather than go to somewhere in Bogota because its my first time here and very much stand out as a lost gringo.
Any local agencies that coordinate independents?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Thanks World Travel 69, I did not realize Eroticasbogota had been reviewed here (although the reviews are not very detailed. No indication of BBBJ, multiples, etc.). The prices are very reasonable by worldwide standards and anal is offered by several providers.
The concern I have with the reviews of Escortsincolombia on the American site is that all the reviews are by one person. Could be a traveller that is pleased with the agency, or it could be the agency owner himself.
My first Colombia trip will be to Medellin and staying at the Mansion, but I like the fact that Bogota's western-brand chains appear to be guest friendly. I am hoping there will eventually be more reviews of Eroticasbogota.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1820406]I guess you did not read the List Thread?
[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/[/URL]
[URL]www.eroticservicesbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://devel.latin-beauty.com[/URL]
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://colombia.en.craigslist.org/cas/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1820413]
My first Colombia trip will be to Medellin and staying at the Mansion, but I like the fact that Bogota's western-brand chains appear to be guest friendly. I am hoping there will eventually be more reviews of Eroticasbogota.[/QUOTE]Whether or not big western chain hotels are guest friendly depends on what kind of guest and how many you are bringing in a day. I've stayed at the W 3 times since August and have not had a problem because the two girls I see in Bogota do not dress or act like working girls and when they come visit me they register at front desk and then stay with me for 2-3 days. If that is what you define as chica friendly then I would agree a lot of the hotels are. If however you are bringing girls in that look like hookers every 4 hours then you will have a problem. At a minimum they will charge you for the extra guest even though you reserved a room for two persons. Your two persons are you and the first girl you bring in. Girl #2,3,4 and so on might incur you charges of $50 or more. So if you plan on several sessions a day I would definitely be looking at some of the apartment hotels that are available and don't care how many girls you take up a day.
Haven't reported in a while here goes. On Thursday took the bus from la Calera 3 k at 3 pm I'm staying outside Bogota for golf. Got me to 72 and 13 is that barrios unidos? Hopped on metro went south 9 stops 2 k got off at 24 that's Santa Fe. Used my GPS the whole way. Then walked away from mountains three streets turned right got sucked into trios. No talent got out walked around block turned right right again to other side of building troyas and paisas have entrances on both sides La Casona doesn't. ID been to Casona earlier in year went with Dania hot operated tightie costena. Amazing. Went in this time gave 50 k for a tab to mesero started drinking 5 k Aguila light. Not a lot of girls medium quality but way better vibe here than troyas or paisas you feel more like a party than strip joint. For half hour girls trying to get my eye. Turns out its same girl Dania looks a little different turns out she's been in bonair 2 months not so lean like I like but still hottest girl there. I bought here 4 whiskeys 8 k each wiith my beers paid aroun the 80 k total we went upstairs for 70 k 20 min 5 k for room 5 k tip to room girl. I busted in maybe 5 min LOL she did reverse cow till I finished she's a worker. No begging for tip from her she's nice go see her or message me ill go with. If I hear another SW say to me "muy poquito". . I'm going to lose it. Actually there was a real classy blonde Venezuelan there ill go see her you can have Dania. Walked back to metro to 72 bused home easy.
Remember were all in this together.
Tom Power
Thanks Soldierb11 for the hotel information regarding the W. If you do not mind me asking, are any of your long-time regulars proficient enough in English so that a non-Spanish speaker would enjoy a full day with her?
I had to upgrade my American site membership for an upcoming unexpected trip so I was able to see the details of the reviews for I referenced.
The one guy who constantly reviews the ladies from Escortsincolombia is a very experienced reviewer, so those reviews are not fake. However, he is easy to please. He has seen a couple of ladies throughout the world that I have also seen that he gave 10's in appearance and I would have given them 7's and 8's. He liked both Andrea and Paula, but he seemed to like Andrea ever so slightly better. Both do BBBJs, supposedly to completion, and Andrea did Greek. Of course this is secondhand information, so take it with a grain of salt.
The guy who reviewed Danna at Eroticasbogota has at least one other review. He said she did BBBJ but it did not appear to be to completion. She allowed multiples and enjoyed a shower together. She was bubbly and fun but not terribly experienced as she handed him the condom to roll on. Her English is very basic.
Hope this helps the guy with two posts who was trying to find an escort. If you see someone, please do a review and let everyone know the current guest-friendliness of the W for your adventures.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1820073]First of all, I know nothing about Bogota. I have never been there, but I am interested in someday doing so.
These are the better reviews on the big American escort site. While it is normally an excellent site, it does have fake reviews for a South America. I got burned by one for Santiago, Chile. So I cannot vouch for these reviews at all, but this is all I can find, so I thought I would send you the links.
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/girl.php?e=Paula[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/detalle-modelo.php?kd=73[/URL]
[URL]https://www.worldelitecompanions.com/about/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1820829]Thanks Soldierb11 for the hotel information regarding the W. If you do not mind me asking, are any of your long-time regulars proficient enough in English so that a non-Spanish speaker would enjoy a full day with her?.[/QUOTE]Sorry mongerer88 the girls are Spanish only.
Solitasparati. I've had a couple decent girls from there. Very punctual and professional looking. One girl was dressed like she just came from a job at a bank.
1. Solitasparati has some women who they say speak English, Paula for one. BTW, Solitasparati means lonely girls for you, I think. [URL]http://bogotaerotic.com/[/URL] says "Call us we speak English".
2. Please share your experiences with hiring chicas from co. [URL]mundosexanuncio.com[/URL].
Here are 3 I like that host. They are all in the Kennedy area. I wonder if they work at a house. Am I playing with trouble using this site?
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3. Thanks to Toreador responding to my earlier question.
I just want to thank the guys for their advice for my trip over Christmas. I did end up going to Cali. It was fun because of the festivals. I checked out La Viente. The male to female ratio was off because of the holidays, but it was still a good time. Avenida Sexta was pretty lively the nights of the 25th and 26th. Because I had to connect in Bogota. I did end up going to Santa Fe on the 27th of December. I went to Apollo VIP and Atun. It was pretty slow, but there were some good quality girls to be found. I needed to get away for Christmas. It was slower than normal, but it was still pretty good. Again, thanks.
I use Seeking Arrangements in the USA with Great success. I tried for Bogota last week.
I could not believe the response 80-100 US for TNL. It seems that the chicas are on vacation from University and need money.
Unbelievable!
Mel.
[QUOTE=Mel365;1825138]I use Seeking Arrangements in the USA with Great success. I tried for Bogota last week.
I could not believe the response 80-100 US for TNL. It seems that the chicas are on vacation from University and need money.
Unbelievable!
Mel.[/QUOTE]I am saying unbelievable as well. Because I believe that $100 for TLN in a 3rd world country is at least $50 too much. To put it in perspective, I remember my ex girlfriend making $7/day at her square gig. Also I just called and booked a hotel in Medellin at $32 for 3 days. And the place I stay in Bogota is $13/day. So yeah.
[QUOTE=Mel365;1825138]I use Seeking Arrangements in the USA with Great success. I tried for Bogota last week.
I could not believe the response 80-100 US for TNL. It seems that the chicas are on vacation from University and need money.
Unbelievable!
Mel.[/QUOTE]Unlike Mr E, I think 80/100 for TLN is the going rate for foreigners. OTOH, Mr E seems to always get it cheaper. Not easy to emulate him.
[QUOTE=Mel365;1825138]I use Seeking Arrangements in the USA with Great success. I tried for Bogota last week.
I could not believe the response 80-100 US for TNL. It seems that the chicas are on vacation from University and need money.
Unbelievable!
Mel.[/QUOTE]I agree, that's cheap, if that's coming from some of the more attractive women. Mel, in the USA and Colombia, do you just ask them upfront how much they want to spend the night? If so, are many insulted? The majority, but not all, of the ones I've contacted seem to want some kind of an ongoing relationship. And some say they're just looking for one guy.
I travel to Bogota on a fairy regular basis and ave typically been using Tinder and getting mixed results. Lots of dates / interest and a shot-ton of messaging / chat, but not so much in terms of getting them into bed. A few, one was great, but for the most part it is a huge amount of effort that is not commensurate with the results.
I have gone out to a few of the clubs, like Paisa and such, also to mixed results. All of them get into bed, but some are better than others and a lot of times they are sort of mechanical and not that into it, which holds little interest for me, plus the whole process of negotiating price and getting them to leave with you puts me off.
A few posters here have mentioned using Seeking Arrangements and I wanted to get more details on how well that works before I shell out $$ to join. Looking at the pics / profiles on there, there are a lot of young, beautiful girls willing to go out with you and spend time in exchange for being spoiled. Some seem sort of relationship focused while others are a little more obviously ready to be physical, so I imagine their expectations will run the gambit.
My questions are as follows:
1. What percentage, if any, of these are fake profiles?
2. I assume that regardless of which girl you talk to, that sooner or later, they understand that the goal is to become physical, whether they require time up front / chemistry first or not. Right?
3. Do girls there typically want some sort of shopping, dinner, pamper arrangement when you meet them, some sort of periodic allowance, or some sort of arrangement on a per trip / visit basis? I'm going to guess that it varies from girl to girl, but some insight from guys that have used it would be helpful.
Thanks in advance, getting back into the hobby a bit more after a long time off (you can see some of my posts from early 200's when I was traveling through SA for an extended period). Browsing the girls on that site are going to get me back to Colombia sooner rather than later if I can get the right chica to enjoy it with.
[QUOTE=Tiny12;1825542]I agree, that's cheap, if that's coming from some of the more attractive women. Mel, in the USA and Colombia, do you just ask them upfront how much they want to spend the night? If so, are many insulted? The majority, but not all, of the ones I've contacted seem to want some kind of an ongoing relationship. And some say they're just looking for one guy.[/QUOTE]$80-$100 is Cheap if you can spend 4-5 hours in bed the girl. I've been hooking up with Some girls at Troya Short GFEs upstairs for $20.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1828224]$80-$100 is Cheap if you can spend 4-5 hours in bed the girl. I've been hooking up with Some girls at Troya Short GFEs upstairs for $20.[/QUOTE]I guess it's all relative to what you negotiate. I've been able to do all night for 150 K out of Las Vegas. Then again, once I paid 120 K for a full hour upstairs at Apollo VIP. I know that if you're willing to wait until after midnight, the prices go down. Obviously, this is not something many are willing to do in Santa Fe. Also, on busy nights some of the girls don't make as much as they would like due to increased competition. As always YMMV.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1828565]I guess it's all relative to what you negotiate. I've been able to do all night for 150 K out of Las Vegas. Then again, once I paid 120 K for a full hour upstairs at Apollo VIP. I know that if you're willing to wait until after midnight, the prices go down. Obviously, this is not something many are willing to do in Santa Fe. Also, on busy nights some of the girls don't make as much as they would like due to increased competition. As always YMMV.[/QUOTE]Yep-- True-that. And my experience isn't necessarily the same experience because I may appeal more or less to a certain girl-- The same as regular dating. I've been meeting a lot of really hot girls at Troya in the afternoon and just having Good GFE Times.
Will write more later.
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Landed in Bogota a little past 11 pm. Checked into my hotel, then headed out to Santa Fe. Streets were full of people. Girls, guys, vendors, police, beggars, etc. First I hit Troya, girls were asking for 80 K for un rato upstairs. I wasn't going to decide so quickly, so stayed a while then left. Went to Fiebre Sex next. Found a tall hottie who asked for 50 K and 6 K for the room. Wham bam and busted my first nut in Bogota. Got hungry and went next door for a bowl of sopa de mondongo, beef tripe and rice soup, very delicious for 4 K. Had a good time chatted up two fellow diners, who were wearing street clothes, probably finished their shifts and were about to go home. Bought them sodas and offered one of them I'd take to my hotel to stay the night, I offered 150 K but she insisted she could only stay 2 hours. So no. Walked around a bit, by now it was 2 am and looked like some of the clubs, like Fiebre and Paisas, were closing and the crowd was moving across the street to the other clubs. Checked out a couple of them, sorry I forgot the names. Hung around a bit in the street, had fun joking and flirting with the chicas. In the end, nothing really struck my fancy so I'm back at the hotel now. I still have a few more days and a few cupid chicks lined up, so no rush. So far I'm liking this place, even on a Thursday night it was quite happening. There were lots of silicones, but lots of natural as well. Whites, blacks, skinny, thick, take your pick. Sure I had a couple of beggars and old hags following and tugging at me but just act firm and put that "don't fuck with me" face on and no hay problema. Only thing that sucked was my Tigo SIM from last September has expired and I didn't have my phone on me to collect numbers for later hookups. Too bad for my friends back home who'll have to deal with the mid-Atlantic snowpocalypse!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1828627]Yep-- True-that. And my experience isn't necessarily the same experience because I may appeal more or less to a certain girl-- The same as regular dating. I've been meeting a lot of really hot girls at Troya in the afternoon and just having Good GFE Times.
Will write more later.[/QUOTE]Hi Woodman,
I want to PM you but it says your box is full. Popular guy!
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1828849]Landed in Bogota a little past 11 pm. Checked into my hotel, then headed out to Santa Fe. Streets were full of people. Girls, guys, vendors, police, beggars, etc. First I hit Troya, girls were asking for 80 K for un rato upstairs. I wasn't going to decide so quickly, so stayed a while then left. Went to Fiebre Sex next. Found a tall hottie who asked for 50 K and 6 K for the room. Wham bam and busted my first nut in Bogota. Got hungry and went next door for a bowl of sopa de mondongo, beef tripe and rice soup, very delicious for 4 K. Had a good time chatted up two fellow diners, who were wearing street clothes, probably finished their shifts and were about to go home. Bought them sodas and offered one of them I'd take to my hotel to stay the night, I offered 150 K but she insisted she could only stay 2 hours. So no. Walked around a bit, by now it was 2 am and looked like some of the clubs, like Fiebre and Paisas, were closing and the crowd was moving across the street to the other clubs. Checked out a couple of them, sorry I forgot the names. Hung around a bit in the street, had fun joking and flirting with the chicas. In the end, nothing really struck my fancy so I'm back at the hotel now. I still have a few more days and a few cupid chicks lined up, so no rush. So far I'm liking this place, even on a Thursday night it was quite happening. There were lots of silicones, but lots of natural as well. Whites, blacks, skinny, thick, take your pick. Sure I had a couple of beggars and old hags following and tugging at me but just act firm and put that "don't fuck with me" face on and no hay problema. Only thing that sucked was my Tigo SIM from last September has expired and I didn't have my phone on me to collect numbers for later hookups. Too bad for my friends back home who'll have to deal with the mid-Atlantic snowpocalypse![/QUOTE]That's awesome! This is the reason I can't stay away from Santa Fe. Although many feel it's too dangerous, most of the people I've encountered are pretty honest. Another thing is that many of the girls will give you the same service or better for a lower price compared to some of the other parts of town. Thanks for the update. I'll be back for one night in February before I go to Carnival in Barranquilla. I can't wait.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1829181]That's awesome! This is the reason I can't stay away from Santa Fe. Although many feel it's too dangerous, most of the people I've encountered are pretty honest. Another thing is that many of the girls will give you the same service or better for a lower price compared to some of the other parts of town. Thanks for the update. I'll be back for one night in February before I go to Carnival in Barranquilla. I can't wait.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree. As a matter of fact, I just came back from the Pussy House and it sucked. How can it be so lackluster on a Saturday night? It wasn't because I went too early, as it was pretty packed with customers. I could count the total number of girls on my both hands. Compared to Santa Fe, the Pussy House is just too isolated as a destination. If it sucked, you can't go club-hopping as in Santa Fe. (I did go across the street to the other place, and it was no better.).
Before getting back to my hotel, I walked by Theatron to take a look. (Someone has written about picking up non-pros there.) This mega gay club had a mega gay crowd outside waiting to get in. I'd say for every one girl (who's probably going with her date) there must be 60 gays. Haters would say "you have no game", but that's not the type of odds I'd take.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1829494]Absolutely agree. As a matter of fact, I just came back from the Pussy House and it sucked. How can it be so lackluster on a Saturday night? It wasn't because I went too early, as it was pretty packed with customers. I could count the total number of girls on my both hands. Compared to Santa Fe, the Pussy House is just too isolated as a destination. If it sucked, you can't go club-hopping as in Santa Fe. (I did go across the street to the other place, and it was no better.).
Before getting back to my hotel, I walked by Theatron to take a look. (Someone has written about picking up non-pros there.) This mega gay club had a mega gay crowd outside waiting to get in. I'd say for every one girl (who's probably going with her date) there must be 60 gays. Haters would say "you have no game", but that's not the type of odds I'd take.[/QUOTE]AWW if you scared say you're scared.
Joined a walking tour in the morning, took in all the sights like Museo del Oro, Plaza Bolivar, La Candelaria, etc. I'd recommend this as a non-monger activity. Search for "free walking tour Bogota" (suggested donation 20 K).
Around 4 pm, went to Santa Fe and hit Atunes. It was quite packed with older businessman types. Selection of chicas was great. Most of them quoted me 60 K for un rato upstairs. Found one I liked and negotiated 50 K including room fee. Nice 69, and great riding skills to completion.
Rested up and around 10 pm returned to -- you guessed it -- Santa Fe. It's Friday night and the place is a carnival. Hit Troya first, quite a party atmosphere. Then to A'Tun (not Atunes). Now this place is interesting. It has mostly black girls and the DJ played Dr Dre, Mary J Blige and Snoop Dogg back to back to back. I was transported back to my Washington DC Skylark days in the mid 90's! Went to Venus next, wasn't great.
Random thoughts: Most Colombian guys seem to be contend just to go drinking with their friends. I don't see a lot of them going upstairs with chicks. The after-hours clubs I mentioned before are Apollo and Guauu ("wow".) Just like I was club-hopping, a lot of the girls go from club to club to where they feel it's happening.
By now, around midnight there were lines outside waiting to get into Fiebre Sex and Paisas. On the street I ran into a hottie I chatted with the night before. I invited her and her friends to sit in a booth with me inside La Casona. (La Casona has a good party atmosphere too). Turned out this girl is actually Venezuelan. She, her sister and two friends came together from Caracas over a 3-day, 6-legged bus trip! Conditions are so dire in Venezuela, she had temporarily suspended her medical school study and make this trek to earn income. We connected pretty well, not sure if it's because we're both outsiders. Pretty soon we were back at my hotel room for a very GFE TLN. In the morning gave her 200 K then walked her back to the dump of a hotel where she's sharing a room with her sister and 2 friends, 25 K per night split 4 ways.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1829518]Around 4 pm, went to Santa Fe and hit Atunes. It was quite packed with older businessman types. Selection of chicas was great. Most of them quoted me 60 K for un rato upstairs. Found one I liked and negotiated 50 K including room fee.
Rested up and around 10 pm returned to -- you guessed it -- Santa Fe. It's Friday night and the place is a carnival. Hit Troya first, quite a party atmosphere. [/QUOTE]Come on man. Stop fucking all the hos in my favorite spot. Besides it is much too dangerous there at night. You should stick to the Zona Rosa clip joints where it is safe and a drink will cost you the same as a Santa Fe chica. And don't forget to give lots of tips.
So I've sprouted for a SA account in Oct and more recently mid-Dec. Before I share my experiences I think it's worthwhile to also share a bit about myself. I'm a mid-30's non-Caucasian middle class, Spanish speaking male who's been playing in Colombia for 10 years and more recently living here for longer periods of time. I only spend a night in Bogota on average every month and while I am easy-going I'm definitely not a push-over. In short I can't stand bullshit and call them on it.
That said SA takes a lot of work to weed through the crap. I'd say the 8's-10's are on there expecting big money 500 mil+ for a few hours but they start out even higher like iPhones or shopping. My response is good f-ing luck as we're not on the same planet. The 6's-8's who are in the mid-20's can make it worthwhile and here's my experiences:
1) 22 yr old who isn't my build per-say (I prefer the tall slim volleyball types) but was fun chatting at dinner where she ended rubbing my chest and stroking me under the table at the JW. We didn't discuss any $ and ended upstairs where she gave some great head and an enthusiastic ride for a few hours. I gave her 200 mil and an Uber home.
2) 27 yr old who again not my build per-say but was fun chatting with. Dinner and drinks but only wanted to be wined and dined that night. No sex but no money either. I have a feeling though the next time would be straight to bed with no money expected as she made it clear she was only on the site because her boyfriend isn't paying enough attention to her.
3) 21 yr old who's a 7.5 - body could use a bit of toning at the gym. 250 mil straight to bed. Ended up spending 3 hrs together and a true GFE. Would I call again. Prob. If nothing more interesting pans out.
I've collected a few more whatsapp #'s of those who expect 200-300 mil for a few hours but it's clear they're pros while I was hoping for a more exclusive non-pro mistress type arrangement.
Would I spend more time / money on SA. Probably not as I think I can spend the same amount of time hunting in Santa Fe or Chapinero where I know it's 60 k (or less). That said unicorns may exist and that 9. 5 who wants to be only with you and expects 200 mil for the night is out there.
If you need a secure guided tour throughout Bogota's brothels, I'm your man.
Mr Two Fingers.
Sounds like way too much work for inconsistent results, if I had the luxury of patience and time I may give it a try. But in Bogota finding what you are looking for for cheap is easy, I'll stick to spas, agencies and indies. But thanks a lot for your report, much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1830207]So I've sprouted for a SA account in Oct and more recently mid-Dec. Before I share my experiences I think it's worthwhile to also share a bit about myself. I'm a mid-30's non-Caucasian middle class, Spanish speaking male who's been playing in Colombia for 10 years and more recently living here for longer periods of time. I only spend a night in Bogota on average every month and while I am easy-going I'm definitely not a push-over. In short I can't stand bullshit and call them on it.
That said SA takes a lot of work to weed through the crap. I'd say the 8's-10's are on there expecting big money 500 mil+ for a few hours but they start out even higher like iPhones or shopping. My response is good f-ing luck as we're not on the same planet. The 6's-8's who are in the mid-20's can make it worthwhile and here's my experiences:
1) 22 yr old who isn't my build per-say (I prefer the tall slim volleyball types) but was fun chatting at dinner where she ended rubbing my chest and stroking me under the table at the JW. We didn't discuss any $ and ended upstairs where she gave some great head and an enthusiastic ride for a few hours. I gave her 200 mil and an Uber home.
2) 27 yr old who again not my build per-say but was fun chatting with. Dinner and drinks but only wanted to be wined and dined that night. No sex but no money either. I have a feeling though the next time would be straight to bed with no money expected as she made it clear she was only on the site because her boyfriend isn't paying enough attention to her.
3) 21 yr old who's a 7.5 - body could use a bit of toning at the gym. 250 mil straight to bed. Ended up spending 3 hrs together and a true GFE. Would I call again. Prob. If nothing more interesting pans out.
I've collected a few more whatsapp #'s of those who expect 200-300 mil for a few hours but it's clear they're pros while I was hoping for a more exclusive non-pro mistress type arrangement.
Would I spend more time / money on SA. Probably not as I think I can spend the same amount of time hunting in Santa Fe or Chapinero where I know it's 60 k (or less). That said unicorns may exist and that 9. 5 who wants to be only with you and expects 200 mil for the night is out there.[/QUOTE]
For some reasons that is beyond logic, Pussy House is always slow on Saturdays, I was there las Thursday and it was jumping. Thursdays and Fridays are the two best days. However I must agree Pussy House does not compare to the places in Santa Fe, but it is a good option on Chapinero (to me anyway), and yes, the place across the street sucks big time, there is another place on Caracas and 64 I believ it is that is my plan be from Houston, it is a hit and miss, I have had a good time there before, met two hotties for OOC fun, one of them (a solid 8 in my book) was ready to head to Cartagena with me for a three night sex vacation for one mill. (well worth it to me) but I had to cancel, who knows I may take on that trip one of these days.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1829494]Absolutely agree. As a matter of fact, I just came back from the Pussy House and it sucked. How can it be so lackluster on a Saturday night? It wasn't because I went too early, as it was pretty packed with customers. I could count the total number of girls on my both hands. Compared to Santa Fe, the Pussy House is just too isolated as a destination. If it sucked, you can't go club-hopping as in Santa Fe. (I did go across the street to the other place, and it was no better.).
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My subscription in the big American review board is about to expire, but for completeness I thought I might mention that a review just appeared for Mariana of Eroticasbogota and it was pretty mediocre. No DATY, the BJ was covered, she was mechanical, and left after one shot (long before the hour was up).
I also wanted to note that my posts in this forum were in response to a post by WJefFurry requesting information about who might come to his hotel. I have an interest in Colombia so I noticed his post. Others more knowledgeable than me posted more useful information.
Did he say thanks? Did he do a trip report?
No, he did not. So WJefFurry if you ever come back to this forum, please contribute. Otherwise you represent everything that is wrong with ISG.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;1820829]Thanks Soldierb11 for the hotel information regarding the W. If you do not mind me asking, are any of your long-time regulars proficient enough in English so that a non-Spanish speaker would enjoy a full day with her?
I had to upgrade my American site membership for an upcoming unexpected trip so I was able to see the details of the reviews for I referenced.
The one guy who constantly reviews the ladies from Escortsincolombia is a very experienced reviewer, so those reviews are not fake. However, he is easy to please. He has seen a couple of ladies throughout the world that I have also seen that he gave 10's in appearance and I would have given them 7's and 8's. He liked both Andrea and Paula, but he seemed to like Andrea ever so slightly better. Both do BBBJs, supposedly to completion, and Andrea did Greek. Of course this is secondhand information, so take it with a grain of salt.
The guy who reviewed Danna at Eroticasbogota has at least one other review. He said she did BBBJ but it did not appear to be to completion. She allowed multiples and enjoyed a shower together. She was bubbly and fun but not terribly experienced as she handed him the condom to roll on. Her English is very basic.
Hope this helps the guy with two posts who was trying to find an escort. If you see someone, please do a review and let everyone know the current guest-friendliness of the W for your adventures.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwoFingersEsc;1830522]If you need a secure guided tour throughout Bogota's brothels, I'm your man.
Mr Two Fingers.[/QUOTE]Hello 2 fingers,
I will be going to Bogota in March. I may take you up on your services. But is there anywhere you can show me that is a "Bar / Nightclub type area" where non-pros (college girls looking for extra cash etc) who may be selling there services I prefer the experience where its like I am "picking them up" and going back to my place.
I agree 100%- definitely not worth the effort!
[QUOTE=Toreador;1830685]Sounds like way too much work for inconsistent results, if I had the luxury of patience and time I may give it a try. But in Bogota finding what you are looking for for cheap is easy, I'll stick to spas, agencies and indies. But thanks a lot for your report, much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TwoFingersEsc;1830522]If you need a secure guided tour throughout Bogota's brothels, I'm your man.
Mr Two Fingers.[/QUOTE]What would your fee be?
I am planning a little 4 day getaway down there.
I am Hispanic seasoned traveler but I am curious as to the benefit of a guide.
Anyone ever had experience with clubrosa. Co? Interesting ladies, some very attractive in my opinion. Contacted them via WhatsApp and they responded. Lots of questions for them but wondered if anyone had partaken? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1820470]Whether or not big western chain hotels are guest friendly depends on what kind of guest and how many you are bringing in a day. I've stayed at the W 3 times since August and have not had a problem because the two girls I see in Bogota do not dress or act like working girls and when they come visit me they register at front desk and then stay with me for 2-3 days. If that is what you define as chica friendly then I would agree a lot of the hotels are. If however you are bringing girls in that look like hookers every 4 hours then you will have a problem. At a minimum they will charge you for the extra guest even though you reserved a room for two persons. Your two persons are you and the first girl you bring in. Girl #2,3,4 and so on might incur you charges of $50 or more. So if you plan on several sessions a day I would definitely be looking at some of the apartment hotels that are available and don't care how many girls you take up a day.[/QUOTE]Can you suggestion some apartment hotels that won't charge for every body that you want through your door?
[QUOTE=Flyer1999;1831099]Can you suggestion some apartment hotels that won't charge for every body that you want through your door?[/QUOTE][URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL] Just book and pay for 2 persons and there will be no problem during all your stay. Your "guests" have to show cedula after 9 pm but that is for your own safety.
[QUOTE=Flyer1999;1831099]Can you suggestion some apartment hotels that won't charge for every body that you want through your door?[/QUOTE]Lloyds apartahotel. I posted a report on it in August.
One night I met up with a cupid chica. We've been communicating a few days before my trip, she was always very (too) eager to meet, so I know what the deal was -- when on the day we were supposed to hook up, she messaged me "are we meeting for real? If so I need to let the club know I won't go in and instead will spend time with you. " She asked for 500 K for TLN, I countered and settled on 300 K. In person she's every bit as pretty as her profile pics, although a little much on the skinny side. Turned out she's a student by day and working girl by night -- at "The Mansion". (Read back 20 pages or so and someone has written about this place.) Supposedly a high class joint in the north. She told me the club charges 300 K an hour for fun time PLUS 150 K for room fee. Not sure if she was exaggerating to make me think she deserved more. She also showed me some pics of her with a Florida gentleman who invited / paid her to go on a Cartagena vacation, never having met her and after communicating online only. Well guess what, her attitude sucked so I let her go after a few hours and 2 pops.
On another day I was up in the north seeing a dentist (thanks to a fellow board member's recommendation). Afterwards, since I was nearby, I thought might as well go pay the "Mezzanine" a visit. The name of the building is actually something else (which I've forgotten), but thankfully I identified the place by the big letters "Mezzanine". With shops next to one another in a retail setting, this reminds me of the BBSs in China. I walked up, turned the corner around the back and went to a random shop. Chose a young cutie, agreed to 100 K for an hour and went to work in the closet-sized room. She is a college student, has nice natural boobs, fun; and I asked her for possible later hookups. She said takeout is 180 K each time, and 500 K TLN. (what's up with 500 K and these girls in the north? Later in the day we exchanged WhatsApp and she asked if she could see me. I told her I want to, but I don't have 500 K. Then, doing my best Grownman impression -- I bartered for her service. You see, I have this 7" Android tablet that I bought on black Friday (2014, for like $30 LOL) and a bottle of designer perfume purchased from a T. J. Maxx. Although unopened and still new-in-box, these items are so old their depreciated value is like nothing to me. Negotiated 2 hours 2 pops for these gifts, she came to my hotel in the evening. A very GFE 2 hours was had, and she was very grateful for the gifts. This turned out to be the best fuck I had the whole trip.
Met up with Arcangel one afternoon and went browsing in Chapinero. Was handed a business card for a new place it looked like, Calle 59 #10-19, Only 2 below-average girls were available, both wearing some kind of uniforms that are cross-between medical and Star Trek. We were quoted some crazy price like 145 K for half an hour. No thanks. Kept on going, to "the Secret Place" on Calle 60-bis -- upstairs joint behind the metal door. Price was more in line with others, like 40 K for half hour (but only one girl was available -- who was kind of cute by the way.
Walked one block north to Calle 61 and Caracas, it was a strip club on a second floor. I didn't made the connection at the time, but this joint was Las Divas -- across the street from the Pussy House. In the early afternoon this place actually wasn't bad. I saw about 6 or 7 girls and at least half of them were doable. Quoted 50 K for half an hour but I didn't partake. I had to be somewhere else so I left Arcangel to take his pick.
Although Santa Fe has the "low class" reputation, cheaper pussies can be found in the casas in Chapinero. On the morning before my flight home, I went to Calle 64 #15-30, Banged out a nice looker for 30 K / half hour! 30 K is the basic fuck fee -- 10 K upsell for massage, 20 K for kissing on the lips, etc.
Odds and ends: Sundays are slow in Santa Fe. Girls take the night off and many clubs aren't open.
The bar "Texas" has the cheapest beer in Santa Fe for 3 K.
Ever wonder how the stage strippers make money when the Colombian dudes don't make it rain with peso bills? The clubs pay them directly. A girl told me 15 K for 3 songs is the going rate.
Tuesday night. Some places close early. The talent was off the chain though at Fiebre Sex! Pulled a young Chante Moore lookalike and 50 K later my sac was drained.
Join a bike tour or go ride on the Ciclovia on Sunday. Fun non-mongering activity.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1832420]Although Santa Fe has the "low class" reputation, cheaper pussies can be found in the casas in Chapinero. On the morning before my flight home, I went to Calle 64 #15-30, Banged out a nice looker for 30 K / half hour! 30 K is the basic fuck fee -- 10 K upsell for massage, 20 K for kissing on the lips, etc.[/QUOTE]Yeap, and many of these girls are semi Pros, young and / or brand new to the business, unlike most girls in Santa Fe. Not as convenient as Santa Fe but it is a matter of knowing where to go. On my last visit I went to Chicas 2000 on 71, at least 12 girls in the lineup, half of them very doable.
[QUOTE] Ever wonder how the stage strippers make money when the Colombian dudes don't make it rain with peso bills? The clubs pay them directly. A girl told me 15 K for 3 songs is the going rate. [/QUOTE]When not in stage they also make money from liquor sold to customers (if seating with them) from a 1/2 bottle of aguardinte sold, they get 12 k, customer buys them a Smirnoff, it is 3 k for them.
[QUOTE] Join a bike tour or go ride on the Ciclovia on Sunday. Fun non-mongering activity.[/QUOTE]The Ciclovia is one of many fun non-mongering activities in Bogota on a Sunday, want a challenge? Walk up Monserrate, enjoy the number of hot girls in tight yoga pants walking the path. No worries, there is beer and food along the way.
Parkinsons. Thanks so much for your reports, very informative, accurate and entertaining to read.
Had a layover. Long enough that I didn't want to just wait it out in the airport so took my suitcase to the storage area which is on arrivals at the end (door 1) and hopped an uber to Santa Fe.
Santa Fe was rocking. Started with a slim 23 yr old natural for $50 mil in paisas. Then after that walked around a bit and went inside California. Had a 3 mil beer and a 35 mil 22 yr old. Finally mustered enough energy for one more punt with a sexy natural 8 from fiebre for $56 mil.
Pinged my Uber back to the airport and slept through the red eye.
Total costs are $224 mil. Not a bad layover.
Hi guys.
Where can I buy genuine Cialis in Bogota. And how much will it cost.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SXLover;1839396]Hi guys.
Where can I buy genuine Cialis in Bogota. And how much will it cost.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I simply walked into a pharmacy and asked for a rubber. Pharmacist (nice guy) brought me a pack of condoms and a package of Cialis. I politely declined and took the condoms. Not sure if that always happens but I don't think it is hard to find at a pharmacy. Never asked price.
Just about at any pharmacy, will cost you around 40 k for a pill, better off with generic Viagra, like the real thing and very cheap. Don't ask for viagra, ask for sildenafil 50 mgs. They sell them in boxes of 2 and 4, I recommend brand MK. Will cost you about 12 k for a Box of 4.
[QUOTE=SXLover;1839396]Hi guys.
Where can I buy genuine Cialis in Bogota. And how much will it cost.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
Got my box of original cialis from Olímpica for 100 mil.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1839449]Just about at any pharmacy, will cost you around 40 k for a pill, better off with generic Viagra, like the real thing and very cheap. Don't ask for viagra, ask for sildenafil 50 mgs. They sell them in boxes of 2 and 4, I recommend brand MK. Will cost you about 12 k for a Box of 4.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I did try sidenafil but did not do job. Was not satisfied by results so I want to try Cialis.
Hey gents,
Been in Bogota for a couple months and plan to be here for at least a year. I'm living in Chapinero a stones throw away from Hippies Park. According to reports, this is a decent location for some mongering. While my main reason for being in Colombia is actually to learn Spanish, at the moment I don't think it's really at the level for any type of pick up. I don't look like the typical gringo and could pass for local. That is, until I open my mouth. Would my best bet be to shell out a bit more pesos for an escort + room (my current living situation wouldn't work), or to try my hand at a nearby brothel or strip club?
Hey guys,
Can anyone tell me if this hotel is chica friendly? I appreciate it.
Hotel Tequendama Bogotá 4-star hotel Avenida carrera 10 No. 26 - 21,110010 Bogotá, Colombia.
Viper10.
[QUOTE=Viper10;1845646]Hey guys,
Can anyone tell me if this hotel is chica friendly? I appreciate it.
Hotel Tequendama Bogot 4-star hotel Avenida carrera 10 No. 26 - 21,110010 Bogot, Colombia.
Viper10.[/QUOTE]It sure is. You just have to pay an extra $40 to get them past the front desk.
[QUOTE=Bracy;1845102]Hey gents,
Been in Bogota for a couple months and plan to be here for at least a year. I'm living in Chapinero a stones throw away from Hippies Park. According to reports, this is a decent location for some mongering. While my main reason for being in Colombia is actually to learn Spanish, at the moment I don't think it's really at the level for any type of pick up. I don't look like the typical gringo and could pass for local. That is, until I open my mouth. Would my best bet be to shell out a bit more pesos for an escort + room (my current living situation wouldn't work), or to try my hand at a nearby brothel or strip club?[/QUOTE]Have a look here: Pussy House Calle 61 #13-64. Its at 2 blocks away and a decent brothel.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1831733]WhatsApp and she asked if she could see me. I told her I want to, but I don't have 500 K. Then, doing my best Grownman impression -- I bartered for her service. You see, I have this 7" Android tablet that I bought on black Friday (2014, for like $30 LOL) and a bottle of designer perfume purchased from a T. J. Maxx. Although unopened and still new-in-box, these items are so old their depreciated value is like nothing to me. Negotiated 2 hours 2 pops for these gifts, she came to my hotel in the evening. A very GFE 2 hours was had, and she was very grateful for the gifts. This turned out to be the best fuck I had the whole trip.[/QUOTE]Hey man an even swap ain't no swindle. I being in the room like Monty Hall in lets make a deal. You should have through in that cheap ass 10 in hair you brought or exchanged it for toilet tissue. I brought 3 of them $30 tablets on-line. Guess what in am doing with them next week in the DR. Yep 3 all nighters 6+pops and 3 happy chicas.
[QUOTE=Routard;1845752]Have a look here: Pussy House Calle 61 #13-64. Its at 2 blocks away and a decent brothel.[/QUOTE]I went to a couple of the nightclubs on 86 A last night and I was the only customer at 10:30 PM. From earlier reports it appears you can go to Pussy House earlier in the evening but it is not absolutely clear in my mind.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1831733]Turned out she's a student by day and working girl by night -- at "The Mansion". [/QUOTE]I think she needs to update her story: The Mansion was torn down a year or two ago. .
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1847172]I think she needs to update her story: The Mansion was torn down a year or two ago. .[/QUOTE]Wouldn't surprise me if she was BS'ing me; however, seems like you need to update your Bogota knowledge.
From their own website, [URL]http://www.lamansionclub.com[/URL]:
"La Mansion nace en el ano 1990 calle 116 con autopista norte Bogota Colombia...... Hoy ubicada en un sector diferente pero muy prestigioso de la anterior direccion Carrera 14 A # 101 60 Rincon del Chico Norte. ".
From their FB page, advertising an after party on December 5, 2015:
"After Party hasta las 8 am rumba crosover desde las 10 am a 3 am why de 3 am hasta las 8 am electronica abran show de striper djs mujeres al desnudo baile en pista con 10 modeos en pasarela si no sabes donde rematar tu rumba aca es la entrada son 50 mil pesos por persona totalmente consumibles o grupo entra con botella de licor."
(sorry Jackson for the non-English text. Too lazy to translate, I just copied and pasted.)
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1847032]I went to a couple of the nightclubs on 86 A last night and I was the only customer at 10:30 PM. From earlier reports it appears you can go to Pussy House earlier in the evening but it is not absolutely clear in my mind.[/QUOTE]Yes, I confirm, it opens early. Don't know exactly but it should be something like 7 pm.
[QUOTE=Routard;1847419]Yes, I confirm, it opens early. Don't know exactly but it should be something like 7 pm.[/QUOTE]I was there on a Thursday evening.
Actually you should go to the Pussy House between 1500 to 1700 for the best selection.
At 1900, many of the girls leave the house. The guy to girl ratio soars. The best lookers are all upstairs. I was told the house mostly services the professionals from the local area after work.
I was also told that Friday evenings are the best. There will be 100 to 120 girls in the house.
It is very easy to get phone numbers. I received 3 in about 90 minutes. The girls are working this house only 3 to 4 hours a day so they have time.
Upstairs is nasty. The room smelled. There are no towels.
I paid 70000 pesos to the girl and 10000 for the room.
I feel like the the waiters are trying to take advantage of a non-Spanish speaker. One of the girls ordered a bottle for 100000 pesos. I thought screw it and bought it even though I did not want to drink it. It turned out for the best as I was able to buy many girls a drink. It was a way to tip the dancers on the stage by giving them a shot. It was the means to collect phone numbers.
I thought the girls ranged between fives and sevens.
Thanks for the info.
I am assuming the price was for an hour?
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1847431]I was there on a Thursday evening.
Actually you should go to the Pussy House between 1500 to 1700 for the best selection.
At 1900, many of the girls leave the house. The guy to girl ratio soars. The best lookers are all upstairs. I was told the house mostly services the professionals from the local area after work.
I was also told that Friday evenings are the best. There will be 100 to 120 girls in the house.
It is very easy to get phone numbers. I received 3 in about 90 minutes. The girls are working this house only 3 to 4 hours a day so they have time.
Upstairs is nasty. The room smelled. There are no towels.
I paid 70000 pesos to the girl and 10000 for the room.
I feel like the the waiters are trying to take advantage of a non-Spanish speaker. One of the girls ordered a bottle for 100000 pesos. I thought screw it and bought it even though I did not want to drink it. It turned out for the best as I was able to buy many girls a drink. It was a way to tip the dancers on the stage by giving them a shot. It was the means to collect phone numbers.
I thought the girls ranged between fives and sevens.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1847555]Thanks for the info.
I am assuming the price was for an hour?[/QUOTE]The 70000 and 10000 pesos price was for a half hour and they knocked on the door as we were finishing. In a nightclub type situation you spend time with the girl in the club. So overall it was probably an hour but only 30 minutes in the room.
Also there are many motels within eyesight of the Pussy House so you could probably take the girl out of the club if you wanted a longer time. And like I said they all gave me their phone number which I do not intend to use.
First of all, a big thank you to the creators and managers of this site, and to those who have posted all the useful info, including Toreador who answered my questions. You have guided me to women who have enriched my life. I am past the stage where I could meet and fuck women as beautiful as these, so it is a blessing to be able to buy it.
So here is a report of my recent visit. I only know a little Spanish and my vocab is so small that I can't understand much, but I know sexo and how much does it cost and for how long, and some compliments and with that had no trouble getting naked with a beauty. I agree with others who say there can be a lot of choice in the clubs and I was often a kid in a candy store trying to decide. Is that great or what? One thing I noticed was there were not a lot of flat stomachs, which I attribute to all of the starchy foods here. Rarely a deal breaker, but not my preference. Also, all encounters started with CBJ and sex in as many positions as I wanted, so I will not repeat that below. Every woman seemed eager to please in the rooms, which was a nice surprise, since I am old and fat. Out on the club floor, it was easy to see which ones were OK with that just by saying Hello, as I walked by. I am not a fast comer, so they all had to work for their money.
First stop was Mezzanines at 11 AM on a Sunday At the top of the stairs, I coud see number 8 down at the end, so I went there, opened door and was met by a woman who seemed to be coming out, but she said Hello, and started explaining the services. I chose 1 hour for 100 k, like most posters did. There was one other woman there but I liked the first and wasn't given a choice anyway. She took me to a little room. First was a back massage. I've never had one before, so I cannot rate it, but it felt good, especially the tit rub part. The sex was good. Directions, easy: get to Dann Carlton hotel, walk out front door, turn right, walk to the cross street, turn left and cross the main street, turn right and cross the cross street. You will now see gray concrete stairs on the outside of a red brick building. Go up the stairs and you will see number 8 at the end to your right or you can go straight and around the corner to the other ones.
That Sunday evening I took a cab to Santa Fe. A report said Troya would be open but when I got there it looked closed. I didn't know the entrance was back a bit so it might have been open but I didn't notice any activity. I could see that Fiebres was open so went in and got a beer from the bar and stood off to the side to get my bearings. The club was nicely full with a lot of men drinking bottles at the tables. I had heard that the custom is to order a bottle of aguardiente and drink the whole thing. Some of these groups were getting lap dances. There were strippers on the stage sometimes. Mostly clothed but eventually getting down to naked for a bit. Men do not give tips like in the US but offer little shots of booze which they always drank. This was the same in later clubs. It didn't take long to realize that men have to make the first move as the women rarely initiate conversation. I eventually saw one standing nearby who was energetically bopping to the music. She had a nice rack, so I touched her arm to get her attention and she turned with a blazing, friendly smile and I was sold. She is a bit older than average, but not a problem for me. We tried to talk a bit but as in all clubs the music is so loud that I could barely make out any words. One of the best lays of the trip. 60 k. She gave me here name Veronica and number but I stupidly trashed it before telling you, sorry. Afterwards, I had another beer and was just enjoying the scene. A short cute spinner came up and asked if I wanted to go upstairs. She had a nice way of rubbing my crotch with her hip. I didn't think I was up to it so declined, but now wish I had tried, biggest regret of the trip. When I was ready to leave, I set down my bottle and headed for the door where there was light so I could read my note on how to ask for a taxi. A big bald goon started yelling at me to buy a drink. I couldn't say I had already had 2 and he kept yelling so I left like I was going to anyway. Asshole. There were yellow cabs right outside so I picked one that wasn't motioning for me to get in, no problems getting home.
A second Sunday, I went back to Fiebres and as soon as I walked in, a waiter gave me the do you want a drink hand signal. I said yes, cerveza and he led me to a table and kicked 2 guys off, I protested but he basically made me sit and brought a bottle of aguardiente, I said no, cerveza, and he then brought a quart of Corona and maybe the hottest woman in the place, tight light blue dress with a football-like number on front, big tits, small waist, nice ass and legs! And she spoke some English! I bought her a whisky and the waiter brought a whole bottle with a pitcher of ice and glasses, so I had to say no, but she knew what I wanted and set him straight. She asked if I wanted sex for 100 k and I said yes. She started putting my hands on her legs and asked if I wanted a dance and I asked if she meant baile erotico for 20 k and she said yes and I said por favor. It was great. She stripped and showed off her great bod and did some good rubbing. She then put back on her lacy bra and thong and sat down with the dress on a chair. I started nicely stroking her back and legs. She put my hands on her tits and squeezed them. I fondled for a while, lowered my hands, and she soon put them back! A bit later I said sexo and we went up. After some CBJ, I told her to show me her conyo and she spread her legs wide (good lighting) and let me look and rub. Then she said to lick / kiss it, not sure what she said but I got the idea. Then good sex with good realistic moaning. She was great. Back downstairs I finished my beer (I had given most of it to the room manager upstairs and got a big thumbs up) revealing in what a lucky bastard I am, and grabbed another cab back to the hotel no problems. Hey, I just wrote a Penthouse Forum letter!
The next day, Monday morning, I walked to Santa Fe from my hotel NE of there. I hand drew a map from google maps and had no problems getting there and knew I was there when I started seeing street putas in their stalls. I saw plenty that I wanted to get with, got grabbed nicely by one, and talked price for a BJ with one black woman with huge tits, but she said all or nothing so I passed. Previous posts made me leery of going with one, so I just looked and scoped out where the clubs were, saving my energy for later. Being daytime, there were many people going about their business and I felt totally safe just wandering around enjoying all the enhanced beauty. I got over to where the trannys were, heard some deep voices in dresses, funny. One thing I hadn't read about here is the parade of gaukers on motos and in cars driving by and staring. (Not a judgement, exactly what I was doing really.) I was expecting to see a tour bus at any moment!
At 1 PM, I moved to a different hotel Chapinero and started exploring, using the map. World Traveller 69 should get some kind of humanitarian award. Thank you so much!
El Paraiso at Car 15 #63-26 early afternoon, 2 women parade, one full-figured, one had what I think are indigenous features, so I chose her. Her teeth braces were kind of scary, but the CBJ was good and I liked her pointy natural tits. She worked hard to get me off, but wouldn't go back to CBJ, saying would need another condom, I didn't push it.
I was worried about the uncomfortableness of having to choose one woman from a lineup, but at the 2 places I went, they come out from another room one by one and then you tell the manager which one you want and she comes back. I only wish they would go slower, more like a fashion show. I suppose I could have told them to do that, and will next time.
After a rest, I could not find Abejitas La 63. (I later realized I had my careterras and calles mixed up and then I found it easily, duh, but it wasn't a good time for me then so didn't go in.).
So, I scoped out Hotel Amarte (on the map) as recommended in a post (thank you), said I just wanted to see the basic room (no picture on their web site). They are nice, nicer than my hotel room. The attendant woman who showed me asked if I was looking just for me (I guess you can stay there by the day, too) or for with a chica. I said chica with some gusto and she repeated it in a funny way, maybe because I am too old to be her father.
I looked at Amarte because I was trying to set up a domicilio (she comes to you) for a threesome with show lesbi and anal for 180 k for an hour, Taty why Cami. I called the 3 numbers, finally getting to leave a message on the third one. Didn't get a callback so called again the next morning, got an answer but couldn't get it arranged, probably due to my poor Spanish. I did get to ask if anal was indeed included and she (not even sure who) said no. I sadly said ok and started to set up the time and place when the line went dead, so I gave up.
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/por-las-dos-180000-la-hora-de-placer-para-ti-whats-app-3124999634/5039089/[/URL]
I also somhow discovered Hotel Las Palmas next door. Web site says 30 k for 12 hours weekdays. I didn't go in this one. If you were going to do domicilios, it might be good to just stay here, maybe even at a discount. Anybody done this? I noticed maybe 6 other love hotels nearby.
On my way home, a guy outside his place handed me his card for Club Reservado Bar Palmara with a pic of a super-hot chick. Went up, 4 chubby young girls, I left, guy seemed to want 2 k, but I could have been mistaken. I should have stayed a bit to see what the real deal was.
That (Monday) evening, I went to Pussy House. With that name, you just have to go there. This time, the waiter was out on the street and followed me in. There were maybe 15 guys and about that many women. I let him take me to a table and he promptly brought over a woman. Since I don't carry a lot of money on my outings, I wanted to make sure I wasn't ordering something I couldn't pay for. We got that straightened out and I apologized to Laura who probably thought I was saying I didn't want her. I bought her a beer. She was thin, fairly small, mid-length brown hair, 22, and wore a strapless leopard print mini-dress with sexy black shoes. She could speak a little English, but when she couldn't overcome my lack of Spanish, she fired up a translator on her smartphone and we had a good time translating back and forth. (These are cool and I recommend having one if your Spanish is weak. They need internet I think so they will use up data if Wifi is not available.) While I prefer to make my own choice, I was very happy with who I was given. I don't remember the price but I never paid more than 100 k, I think she asked 70. Very good CBJ and fuck. When I came and pulled out, she laid on top of me and let me stroke her pussy and clit and if she didn't come, it was superb acting. I loved it. Back downstairs, my waiter immediately brought me another pretty woman, but I wanted some alone time to enjoy my high, so I sat at the stage and watched a good dancer in a bikini. She is the only one I saw who asked for propinas. I was glad to give it and she spread her legs and let me rub her pussy through the fabric as I gave it to her. So many beauties, so little time. I walked home a few blocks, still lots of people out. I never stayed out late since I never had a problem finding a woman I wanted to be with.
Tuesday. I had checked this forum and saw the post about Calle 64 # 15-30, (thank you Parkinsons!) and decided to try it. As I was walking over a guy handed me flier for that very place. Rosquillas "trato como novio" (treatment as boyfriend) 8 AM-9 PM daily. As I entered I saw 2 guys going into rooms. The manager asked if I wanted a drink, no, and explained that the price was 35 k for a half hour and pointed out the 2 available women. Both were kinda thick, but I picked the one with the long black hair and we got to it. I asked about BBBJ, she said 20 k, I said OK, she said pay now, I paid and it was well worth it and she did it for as long as I wanted. I stood for it which I like. Fuck was OK and she was nicely attentive. I didn't detect any boyfriend treatment, whatever that is. As I was leaving, a really hot small woman was waiting. Bad timing, you can't be lucky all the time. At 35 k, I would have liked to return, and should have.
A couple hrs later I tried Gaticas (on the central map). Ordered a beer and a woman started up the parade. They went by really too fast to get much of a look, especially since it was pretty dark. I picked one with big tits and a schoolgirl outfit, told the woman but she misunderstood my bad Spanish in the loud music, so I had to say no to the one who came out and get the one I wanted. I paid her the 50 k and asked her to get me change for another 50. She started playing around oh a tip for me and put it in her cleavage. That was fun but I said I needed change. She went over to another woman and then took me to the room. I again asked for the change and we had an argument, she insisting she didn't have my 50 k. I eventually gave in and said lets fuck. We were just about to start when the power went out and she took me to a room with windows and asked for a propina, before we started. After the CBJ and some fuck, I went limp (she was big inside and I didn't like being taken, should have left beforehand), and she couldn't get me hard again so I left. Won't be going back there. By the way, I didn't notice in the parade that she had a corset on. Corset women are usually hiding something.
I rested up and tried to take the bus to Santa Fe. (This is the big divided highway just for the big red double buses along Av Caracas, and others. I didn't know how to use it but walked up to the booth with my 2 K and said Calle 22 and she had another worker swipe a card and let me through. I didn't think I would use the bus much so didn't get a card. I ended up using it 3 times. Twice the booth person put my 2 k on another person's card and told them to let me through the turnstile. Great. There is a Calle 22 stop which lets you off right at El Castillo.) This time the person wouldn't help and I was in a hurry so just grabbed a cab for less than 20 k. I wanted to get to Atunes before it closed. It doesn't have a sign so you need to know the number. I was surprised at how cavernous it is. Got a beer, took a tour to scope out the women, not as many as I expected at 5:30 Tuesday. One came and stood beside me, nice figure in a tight little black dress and the long black hair that I like. We smiled and I asked her to sit with me. We tried to converse and when I got stuck I said wait and pulled out my phone, calling it Senor Espanol and fired up Google Translate, thank you Laura. That helped and we soon were headed upstairs, enjoying her ass and legs as I followed. Everything good, I really liked her, too. Fun, nice tits and when I asked to see her pussy, she did a nice spread for me and let me rub it and put fingers inside. Downstairs, sat for a bit and decided to check out some other places.
The street was full of people and partially blocked off. Went into Venus next door. It was nicely crowded, very similar to Fiebres as described above. The waiter who parked me at a table asked if I wanted a chica, but I said no and just watched the scene and the dancers. The next couple of places I tried were empty, went to Troya, which was nicely full with plenty of beauties. Got a beer and sat at a table. After a bit a thinner, good looking woman came and stood nearby. I bought her a beer and we chatted. She wasn't affectionate and I wasn't getting any signals from down there, so I said no when she asked about fucky fucky. She took off with her beer, don't blame her a bit. Moved around the club, checking out the women and watching the stage dancers (one was very porky, some guys like that I guess), asked one for a lap dance but she declined. I then tried El Castillo but it was empty, having only opened 30 minutes earler. La Piscina also empty but both had some amazing women. I was kinda tired and didn't think I would be able to perform again, so I took the bus back to Chapinero and 6 hours later had to go to the airport.
I am on such a high from my (mostly) great time there, that I want to move there! Probably not practical, but it seems so cheap vs USA and I could enjoy a beautiful woman whenever I wanted. I am already improving my Spanish!
(Excerpted from my previous post to make it easier for the Mapman).
Calle 64 # 15-30.
Rosquillas "trato como novio" (treatment as boyfriend) 8 AM-9 PM daily.
The manager said and I paid 35 k for a half hour.
[QUOTE=BabeLove;1847947]... women who have enriched my life. I am past the stage where I could meet and fuck women as beautiful as these, so it is a blessing to be able to buy it.
I am on such a high from my (mostly) great time there, that I want to move there! Probably not practical, but it seems so cheap vs USA and I could enjoy a beautiful woman whenever I wanted. I am already improving my Spanish![/QUOTE]Good intro and conclusion! Thanks for the report.
I too had a great time in Bogota. Prices are cheap, and there are so many mongering options!
[QUOTE=BabeLove;1847947]I am on such a high from my (mostly) great time there, that I want to move there! Probably not practical, but it seems so cheap vs USA and I could enjoy a beautiful woman whenever I wanted. I am already improving my Spanish![/QUOTE]Great report Babelove, glad you had a great time, and yes, Bogota is a fun place to have fun with the ladies and cheap, but. Don't settle on Bogota just yet without giving Buenos Aires a shot. Just saying.
[QUOTE=BabeLove;1847947]First of all, a big thank you to the creators and managers of this site, and to those who have posted all the useful info, including Toreador who answered my questions. You have guided me to women who have enriched my life. I am past the stage where I could meet and fuck women as beautiful as these, so it is a blessing to be able to buy it.
So here is a report of my recent visit. I only know a little Spanish and my vocab is so small that I can't understand much, but I know sexo and how much does it cost and for how long, and some compliments and with that had no trouble getting naked with a beauty. I agree with others who say there can be a lot of choice in the clubs and I was often a kid in a candy store trying to decide. Is that great or what? One thing I noticed was there were not a lot of flat stomachs, which I attribute to all of the starchy foods here. Rarely a deal breaker, but not my preference. Also, all encounters started with CBJ and sex in as many positions as I wanted, so I will not repeat that below. Every woman seemed eager to please in the rooms, which was a nice surprise, since I am old and fat. Out on the club floor, it was easy to see which ones were OK with that just by saying Hello, as I walked by. I am not a fast comer, so they all had to work for their money.
First stop was Mezzanines at 11 AM on a Sunday At the top of the stairs, I coud see number 8 down at the end, so I went there, opened door and was met by a woman who seemed to be coming out, but she said Hello, and started explaining the services.[/QUOTE]After reading your report I couldn't help but check the prices to Bogota. Surprisingly I found a package for 3 nights with flight for under $500. In my mind I'm already there. Anyone ever stay at the Lancaster House? It was given four stars by reviewers.
[QUOTE=Routard;1845752]Have a look here: Pussy House Calle 61 #13-64. Its at 2 blocks away and a decent brothel.[/QUOTE]All of my previous mongering has been done in east and SE Asia and this was my first experience in Bogota, and my first time with a Latina.
So I took my first trip there last night (Tuesday) around around 10:30 pm. It was actually further down my list of places to go to, but since every other place I'd heard about along calle 61 seemed to be closed or non-existent, I settled for Pussy House. I walked in, sat down and ordered a beer. There were only about 4 or 5 girls in there, with one of them dancing on stage. It was pretty slim pickings, but for a Tuesday night, I wasn't really expecting much. I sat there for maybe about 10-15 minutes sipping my beer, which I guess is too long to not choose a girl? One of the employees came up and told me (possibly asked me, the music was loud, and my Spanish isn't the best) to choose a girl. As I was set on not returning home high and dry, I pointed to a girl who seemed decent enough. That is, as decent as a girl can look and a smoky, dimly lit area. She came over and sat down and we went through the formalities. I ask how much and she tells me 50 mil. I didn't bother negotiating. After I pay the 50 mil at the bar, we go upstairs to a room and pretty much get straight to it. First thing I noticed was that the tight skirt was wearing really did a great job packing a lot in. A bit surprised but not at all deterred, I still got down to business. While in general, sex is better than no sex, I must say that this was slightly underwhelming. A big part of that is due to the fact that she was rushing me (major boner-killer). Afterwards, we got dressed, she gave me her number and I headed home. Oh, and I haven't ruled out the Pussy House because of this. I know that day / time of day play a major part in this.
I'm thinking of checking out Banos Turcos (calle 60 #14-13) next. Has anyone here ever been or can maybe recommend one of your go-to places?
Hi everyone,
I was able to fly into Bogota at 5 pm on Friday. I stayed at Hotel Tequendama. It was $108/ night for the junior suite. Hotel was nice (older style) and is located minutes away from Santa Fe. I had no problems bringing girls back once they registered at the front desk. I asked the forum if there was a fee, and someone said $40 to bring the girl up to the room. I was not charged anything to bring a girl up. For me, I love Fiebre in Santa Fe. Friday and Sunday nights are the best. Friday get there by 7:30 pm or else you won't have a table. We stayed there all night and I love the up tempo music, bottle service and the crowd. I never have seen a crowd that gets so excited just to see a girl strip. LOL. Anyways, Fiebre is my go to place Friday and Sunday nights in Bogota. Never lets me down, and at least 30 doable girls. Saturday started at 2 pm at Atunes, had plenty of girls to choose from, but too business minded for me. After Atunes, ate at the charcoal grill place across the street, couple places down from Fiebre. Really good and freshly grilled. Went to Fiebre from 6-9 pm (not as good on Saturday's), and then went to Lido's. The only place where the girl was bad was Atunes, but at Fiebre and at Lido's (took her home all night) the girls were awesome and willing to please. At Lido's you have to pay 150 k for the room, or 150 k for the fee to take the girl home. I opted to take the girl back to the hotel, and promised her 300 k (not too much negotiation) for all night. She was fantastic. Only problem with Lido, for me it is a little boring. I like the more nightclub and up beat music that Fiebre has to offer. Not the boring, all girls sitting around like Lido. Girls at Lido were really good looking, but they are also at Fiebre where you can get 15 min for 60 k. I always have a great time in Bogota, and will keep coming for years to come.
Viper10.
Can anyone tell me if this hotel is chica friendly?
Hotel NH Collection Royal Teleport, Calle 113 #7-65, Bogota.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=PoneLover;1852151]Can anyone tell me if this hotel is chica friendly?
Hotel NH Collection Royal Teleport, Calle 113 #7-65, Bogota.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Most hotels if not all are chica friendly for short time. Will charge double occupancy rate if she is staying whole night.
[QUOTE=SXLover;1852433]Most hotels if not all are chica friendly for short time. Will charge double occupancy rate if she is staying whole night.[/QUOTE]Thanks SX Lover.
Anyone had any experience using [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL] ? Photos accurate? Yes I know they will look somewhat better in the pics than real life. What about attitude and performance? Yes I know YMMV.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=SXLover;1852433]Most hotels if not all are chica friendly for short time. Will charge double occupancy rate if she is staying whole night.[/QUOTE]I had girls spend the night numerous times at high end hotels in Bogota, they may charge you a required "insurance" fee (like 3 USD) for her, not sure about the NH in Bogota, but I had zero issues with the NH in Buenos Aires. As others have suggested, a sure bet is to book a room for two people from the get go.
Note that if you invite her up tou your room, there is no way for the hotel to know that you intend for her to spend the night, and no, they are not going to call to check, been there, done that.
[QUOTE=PoneLover;1852852]Thanks SX Lover.
Anyone had any experience using [URL]eroticasbogota.com[/URL] ? Photos accurate? Yes I know they will look somewhat better in the pics than real life. What about attitude and performance? Yes I know YMMV.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]About 2 years ago I spent a lot of time researching all of the Bogota escort services. Almost every one was using fake pictures at that time. I don't know if that's changed or if I checked eroticasbogota, but you may want to do a Google image search to decide.
After looking at the site, I would assume the pictures are reasonably accurate. I know that I didn't check it before. Just be sure to pay with pesos. Their posted USD prices are $20 above current exchange rate.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1852909]Note that if you invite her up tou your room, there is no way for the hotel to know that you intend for her to spend the night, and no, they are not going to call to check, been there, done that.[/QUOTE]But they do know what is going on in their place of business. They see when the girl comes and they see when the girl leaves, so maybe they mark that down. I have thought that I have gotten away with it several times, only to be hit with the fee upon checkout.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1852909]I had girls spend the night numerous times at high end hotels in Bogota, they may charge you a required "insurance" fee (like 3 USD) for her, not sure about the NH in Bogota, but I had zero issues with the NH in Buenos Aires. As others have suggested, a sure bet is to book a room for two people from the get go.
Note that if you invite her up to your room, there is no way for the hotel to know that you intend for her to spend the night, and no, they are not going to call to check, been there, done that.[/QUOTE]Thanks guy for all the helpful info. Final question. If she comes from an agency, from your experience, will they call me to come down to reception when she comes and resisters? Know other people staying here so don't like that but suspect it may be unavoidable.
Thanks
[QUOTE=PoneLover;1853118]Thanks guy for all the helpful info. Final question. If she comes from an agency, from your experience, will they call me to come down to reception when she comes and resisters? Know other people staying here so don't like that but suspect it may be unavoidable.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The MO of the agencies is you have to give them your room number before they will send a girl to you, they may call you to verify you are in fact in the room (yeap, experienced that). When they arrive they (hotel) will call you to let you know you have a visitor. I seen guys come down to get them, and I have seen cases the staff brings her up to the room. Guess it depends on the hotel and the rapport you have with them, also my guess is that you could ask for that. They are no fools, they know what is going on. Talk to the hotel staff, tell them you want to be discreet. If they do, make sure to tip them well. A good tip can go a loong way.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1852949]But they do know what is going on in their place of business. They see when the girl comes and they see when the girl leaves, so maybe they mark that down. I have thought that I have gotten away with it several times, only to be hit with the fee upon checkout.[/QUOTE]Never had that happen to me, and I had girls spend the night numerous times, maybe depends on the hotel, maybe it depends on the hotel fare you pay, maybe I just been lucky. I travel on business so the hotel fare that applies to me is contracted, may or may be the difference.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1853971]I travel on business so the hotel fare that applies to me is contracted, may or may be the difference.[/QUOTE]Me too. And that is the exact time that Tequendama wanted that $40 for me bringing a guest in. And this was a normal chick who had come up with me to stay on a previous visit.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1853997]Me too. And that is the exact time that Tequendama wanted that $40 for me bringing a guest in. And this was a normal chick who had come up with me to stay on a previous visit.[/QUOTE]I recently stayed at the Estelar chain. I registered as a single since it was less expensive. Guests do have to register at the desk. If they stay an hour or two then there is no charge. If guests spend the night there is a 40 mil peso surcharge or around $13 dollars at the time I was in Colombia. I think it is important to read the hotel contract you sign and know your own personal style. I personally do not like sleeping with strange women in my bed although I do lose out on the sometimes good wake up sex because of it. I have other acquaintances on the Board who really enjoy all nighters.
[URL]http://www.absolutspa.com.co/[/URL]
This place was considers itself an upscale pale and charges 260000 pesos. The girl actually asked for 300000 pesos but I began to walk. For an upscale place at least in price, those massage tables pictured are fairly narrow and not the best to fuck on. The girl was very good-looking but when she removed her clothes she had some very ugly stretch marks. I feel like if you pay a premium as compared to the other houses that kind of thing should be screened by management. Service was good. Place was very clean. Girls are pretty here so it might be worth mining this place for an outcall girl.
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com/[/URL]
I think this place was 140000 pesos for an hour plus 35 k to 50 k tip for BBBJ. The lineup is not great looking but the girl I chose being in her late twenties had incredible skills. Very strong massage to start. Actually did not have intercourse as the girl got me off between the Russian and the BBBJ. Decent sturdy larger massage table. Place was clean enough. I think this place is worth checking out. I had a good time here.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1853997]Me too. And that is the exact time that Tequendama wanted that $40 for me bringing a guest in. And this was a normal chick who had come up with me to stay on a previous visit.[/QUOTE]Ok, point taken, I have not had any issues at the Hilton, Marriot on 26 or at the time the Radisson (now part of the NHhotels Chain), I also once registered on my own at the embassy suites for 3 guests (planned threesome) booked it on Hilton points, had to register them when they arrived but had no issues (no extra charges). I've been to the Tequendama for business meetings but never overnighted there.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1854095][URL]http://www.avispitas.com/[/URL]
I think this place was 140000 pesos for an hour plus 35 k to 50 k tip for BBBJ. The lineup is not great looking but the girl I chose being in her late twenties had incredible skills. Very strong massage to start. Actually did not have intercourse as the girl got me off between the Russian and the BBBJ. Decent sturdy larger massage table. Place was clean enough. I think this place is worth checking out. I had a good time here.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report, been tempted to try avispitas for a while now as it is not far from where I usually stay, but darn so many choices! May have to give it a try, keep them as a plan be or see (or the, E. Jaja), heading back to Bogota for a few days in the near future.
Facebook page is [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Abadubai-spa-1461868567458239/info?tab=page_info.[/URL].
This spa is closest one to the American chain hotels near Calle 72 that many of the business guys on the Board reserve. I chose a black girl from Cartagena. Large natural breasts on a petite frame. We really got into it for some reason. She enjoys having her breasts kissed. The facility is nice and clean. I think she did the BBBJ without asking for the tip. I paid 180000 pesos so maybe she figured BBBJ in her asking price. This spa was my second favorite of the ones I visited near Zona Rosa T.
I went there around 11:30 AM. I did not see anything that I really liked. Manager said it would have more girls after 2:00 PM. I went to Avipista which was a two minute walk. In fact all of these spas in Zona T are close to each other.
[URL]http://sensity-spa.webnode.es/[/URL]
When I go to Medellin I stay in El Poblado area, what is a similar area in Bogota, I understand it is a much bigger city.
I been told Zonta T?? But when I type that in AirBnB it shows too many listings all over the place. I need a more specific address.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1854542]I went there around 11:30 AM. I did not see anything that I really liked. Manager said it would have more girls after 2:00 PM. I went to Avipista which was a two minute walk. In fact all of these spas in Zona T are close to each other.
[URL]http://sensity-spa.webnode.es/[/URL][/QUOTE]
Best facility of any of the places that I visited. However there was no sex involved here or better you probably need to be a regular or have some magic words to say. The massage without sex cost 100000 pesos.
There were two confusing things about this place. When I was seeing the lineup another gentleman was there who was extremely well-dressed so I do not think it was lacking in customers. As I was leaving, sounds from another room certainly seemed as if a girl was getting thoroughly pounded. Maybe they are not interested in serving tourists. Anyway I would avoid if you in Bogota on just a short stay.
It wasn't a huge loss as I just went to another place a block away and got my rocks off. The 100000 pesos would have included a hand job but I stopped her.
[URL]http://www.mantracolombia.com/index.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854549]When I go to Medellin I stay in El Poblado area, what is a similar area in Bogota, I understand it is a much bigger city.
I been told Zonta T?? But when I type that in AirBnB it shows too many listings all over the place. I need a more specific address.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Check where the upscale hotels are located. Parque 93.
If I am not mistaken anything after Chapineros and on the North East side. Barrios Unidos, Nogal, Rosales, Retiro, Chico, Santa Barbara, Usaqueen.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
I might be there in May.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1854542]I went there around 11:30 AM. I did not see anything that I really liked. Manager said it would have more girls after 2:00 PM. I went to Avipista which was a two minute walk. In fact all of these spas in Zona T are close to each other.
[URL]http://sensity-spa.webnode.es/[/URL][/QUOTE]
This is what I come up with:
[b]Abadubai Spa[/b], Carrera 12 a #77 a-25, piso 2. __ Chicas. Prices: 180k hour. Tel: 649 5700. Hours: Monday to Saturday 9:00 am - 9:00 am, Sunday 10 am to 6 pm. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Abadubai-spa-1461868567458239/info/?section=hours&tab=page_info[/URL].
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1854474]Facebook page is [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Abadubai-spa-1461868567458239/info?tab=page_info.[/URL].
This spa is closest one to the American chain hotels near Calle 72 that many of the business guys on the Board reserve. I chose a black girl from Cartagena. Large natural breasts on a petite frame. We really got into it for some reason. She enjoys having her breasts kissed. The facility is nice and clean. I think she did the BBBJ without asking for the tip. I paid 180000 pesos so maybe she figured BBBJ in her asking price. This spa was my second favorite of the ones I visited near Zona Rosa T.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854549]When I go to Medellin I stay in El Poblado area, what is a similar area in Bogota, I understand it is a much bigger city.
I been told Zonta T?? But when I type that in AirBnB it shows too many listings all over the place. I need a more specific address.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]It depends. I stayed in the Parque 93 area, but it wasn't a mongering trip. Still, it was within a reasonable walk of the mezzanine across from Hotel Dann Carlton and Zona Rosa, and convenient to the Transmilenio for anything further out. If you're wanting to be close to Zona T, probably in the area between Calle 13 and 28 and between Carrera 7 and 30.
Here two of the better areas. Zona Rosa a little better for restaurants and action.
North end of this Map.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/URL]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854549]When I go to Medellin I stay in El Poblado area, what is a similar area in Bogota, I understand it is a much bigger city.
I been told Zonta T?? But when I type that in AirBnB it shows too many listings all over the place. I need a more specific address.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]
Their web site shows lots of sex.
[b]Mantra Spa[/b], Carrera 13a #. 78 - 71. __ Masajitas. Prices: Massage 100k, extras: ___???. Tel: Cell: 313-865-09-03, Fijo: 466-09-21. Hours: 9 am to 10 pm. http://www.mantracolombia.com/index.html
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1854555]Best facility of any of the places that I visited. However there was no sex involved here or better you probably need to be a regular or have some magic words to say. The massage without sex cost 100000 pesos.
There were two confusing things about this place. When I was seeing the lineup another gentleman was there who was extremely well-dressed so I do not think it was lacking in customers. As I was leaving, sounds from another room certainly seemed as if a girl was getting thoroughly pounded. Maybe they are not interested in serving tourists. Anyway I would avoid if you in Bogota on just a short stay.
It wasn't a huge loss as I just went to another place a block away and got my rocks off. The 100000 pesos would have included a hand job but I stopped her.
[URL]http://www.mantracolombia.com/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
I put down Zona Rosa. Attached is what came up. Is that safe and decent area?? Thanks in ADvance.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1854635]Here two of the better areas. Zona Rosa a little better for restaurants and action.
North end of this Map.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=zWlQAAF5dKfU.kA2CvHXdbch4[/URL][/QUOTE]
That is the old part of town.
Below Santa Fe.
The newer part, similar to El Poblado is in the Calle 80's. (Zona Rosa).
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854648]I put down Zona Rosa. Attached is what came up. Is that safe and decent area?? Thanks in ADvance.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Tomorrow I will be in Bogota first time. Do you know that Hotel Estalar de la Feria is girl friendly?
I will stay 2 days only. During the day, I will be busy for business. I will not have much time to check different spots.
Please advise me the best spots shots I can give after 6 pm.
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1854648]I put down Zona Rosa. Attached is what came up. Is that safe and decent area?? Thanks in ADvance.[/QUOTE]Zona Rosa, the north end is Calle 85, south end Calle 76 (roughly) between Carrera 7 and 18. Lots of night clubs, upscale shopping malls and lots of smaller shops. A pretty safe area.
Try El Retiro or Chico.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1854650]That is the old part of town.
Below Santa Fe.
The newer part, similar to El Poblado is in the Calle 80's. (Zona Rosa).[/QUOTE]
This one does not have a website but it is easy to find. It is located on Carrera 13 A No. 79-71 Tercer Piso. I went early on a Saturday morning and did not see anything I liked in the lineup so I left. I realize this is not a prime time to go. I guess you can follow them on twitter and maybe see pictures of the talent.
[URL]https://twitter.com/viaspa1?lang=en[/URL]
Facility looked good to me which was why I went.
Found the girl I liked the best on this trip at this Spa so I went twice. The second time I had two shots in the hour so before I left she asked for 70000 peso tip which I gave her. As we started into the second round, she said that it was only one time so I felt it it was fair. I was already tipping her 35000 pesos for the BBBJ. Try to get the rooms with the bed. This place features Venezuelan girls. In fact, I ran into many Venezuelan girls in Bogota. Is Venezuela in the same relationship to Bogota as Paraguay is to Buenos Aires?
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/Colorin-spa-430438557113998/[/URL]
For me, the Clubs were not that interesting. Girls were not that high of quality. I felt like I was always being asked to buy drinks. The local facilities were not very clean. Part of the problem is that I do not speak Spanish. I felt treated like a tourist and they were trying to maximize revenue.
Even with no Spanish, I did not feel threatened in the Clubs but if a situation would have escalated I would have not understood what was going on.
As the reports indicate I spent more time in the mid-level spas. If you like the spas and want a cheaper price got to ones in Chapinero between 60 and 72 rather than Chico. I was staying around 87 and 15 so the the Zona T spas were closer. On a previous trip I had gone to the Chapinero places and they are okay in the daytime. I was too lazy to save $30 I guess.
My instinct is the prepago outcall is the best choice in Bogota but then you are in a foreign country spending time in your hotel room waiting for a girl. If I lived there I would explore what I could develop from that angle.
For a non-Spanish speaker, Medellin rated over Bogota on this trip. La Isla and Fase Dos were better night clubs. Spas and I imagine casas were equivalent. However in Medellin I was able to meet other English speakers easily and in Bogota I met nobody.
Restaurants are better in Bogota.
Great summary of your impressions Big Boss Man. What do you mean by if the relationship with Bogota and Venezuela is the same as Paraguay and Buenos Aires? Right now times are tough in Venezuela due to their government, so that is why you are seeing the girls. In Santo Domingo there are some Venezuelans walking around selling chocolate and other odd things trying to make a buck.
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1855016]Great summary of your impressions Big Boss Man. What do you mean by if the relationship with Bogota and Venezuela is the same as Paraguay and Buenos Aires? Right now times are tough in Venezuela due to their government, so that is why you are seeing the girls. In Santo Domingo there are some Venezuelans walking around selling chocolate and other odd things trying to make a buck.[/QUOTE]Did I write it wrong? In Buenos Aires, many of the working chicas are from Paraguay. They are known for their looks and performance in bed. My all-time favorite is Paraguayan and in fact I still keep in touch with her. When I was in Bogota, I seemed to run into many Venezuelans working. Also if you peruse the classified ads you see many Venezuelans. [URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota[/URL].
These prices are rediculous.
[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/laura-universitaria-de-cuerpo-escultural-que-te-dejara-boquiabierto-su-striptease-id-rym7v[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1855092]Did I write it wrong? In Buenos Aires, many of the working chicas are from Paraguay. They are known for their looks and performance in bed. My all-time favorite is Paraguayan and in fact I still keep in touch with her. When I was in Bogota, I seemed to run into many Venezuelans working. Also if you peruse the classified ads you see many Venezuelans. [URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1855096]These prices are rediculous.
[URL]http://www.photoprepagos.com/laura-universitaria-de-cuerpo-escultural-que-te-dejara-boquiabierto-su-striptease-id-rym7v[/URL][/QUOTE]The price in this ad includes anal. Most ads that I viewed asked for a 100000 to 150000 peso tip for anal. A girl in a one of the spas asked for 150000 pesos to perform anal. In terms of posted prices for prepago ads these prices are not out of line. This price is certainly less than what you would pay in the numerous Zona T night clubs. Whether or not these posted prices are negotiable is another matter and I do not know the answer. Lower prices can be found in the Chapinero casas between Calle 50 and Calle 72. Also you should go to Santa Fe Red Light district. There is actually something for everybody and all price points in Bogota.
[QUOTE=BigBossMan;1855340]The price in this ad includes anal. Most ads that I viewed asked for a 100000 to 150000 peso tip for anal. A girl in a one of the spas asked for 150000 pesos to perform anal. In terms of posted prices for prepago ads these prices are not out of line. This price is certainly less than what you would pay in the numerous Zona T night clubs. Whether or not these posted prices are negotiable is another matter and I do not know the answer. Lower prices can be found in the Chapinero casas between Calle 50 and Calle 72. Also you should go to Santa Fe Red Light district. There is actually something for everybody and all price points in Bogota.[/QUOTE]It's all a matter of perspective. 300,000 COP is $100. In the US you couldn't touch that for less than $300/ hour and if she's smart she'd probably be getting $500 or more. Then again, in Santa Fe 100,000 COP isn't too hard to find, but probably not looking like that.
If you search the various prepago agencies in Bogota you'll find prices from 150,000 to 1,500,000. From the high end, 300,000 doesn't seem too bad. Of course the real questions with any of them is, how accurate are the pics and how good is the service?
I was comparing to Medellin. Depending on if you went to a CASA, or met a girl who worked at a CASA and asked her to come over your place.
Or the Facebook, Mansion girls. 150-200 COP, possible TLN for 300,000.
And then the Strip Clubs fees, Fase Dos I think 180 and some take out fee.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1855383]It's all a matter of perspective. 300,000 COP is $100. In the US you couldn't touch that for less than $300/ hour and if she's smart she'd probably be getting $500 or more. Then again, in Santa Fe 100,000 COP isn't too hard to find, but probably not looking like that.
If you search the various prepago agencies in Bogota you'll find prices from 150,000 to 1,500,000. From the high end, 300,000 doesn't seem too bad. Of course the real questions with any of them is, how accurate are the pics and how good is the service?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SurfLooker;1855464]I was comparing to Medellin. Depending on if you went to a CASA, or met a girl who worked at a CASA and asked her to come over your place.
Or the Facebook, Mansion girls. 150-200 COP, possible TLN for 300,000.
And then the Strip Clubs fees, Fase Dos I think 180 and some take out fee.[/QUOTE]The escort agencies are always overpriced compared to the talent at clubs and casas. If you compare Bogota casas and clubs prices to Medellin, you'll find prices about the same, and if you compare Medellin and Bogota Prepagos you see prices are pretty close.
Problem with agencies is you're also paying the owner / operators of the agency, not just the girl. In fact, in the example below the girl probably doesn't see more than 200 of the 300 k per hour rate, probably just half (150).
That's why Facebook and Whatsapp is getting so big nowadays, although that method obviously has its drawbacks as well; it can also be even more hit-and-miss than the agencies until you get your sea legs and develop your contacts.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;1855619]Problem with agencies is you're also paying the owner / operators of the agency, not just the girl. In fact, in the example below the girl probably doesn't see more than 200 of the 300 k per hour rate, probably just half (150).
That's why Facebook and Whatsapp is getting so big nowadays, although that method obviously has its drawbacks as well; it can also be even more hit-and-miss than the agencies until you get your sea legs and develop your contacts.[/QUOTE]The advantage of the agency is that you know someone will answer the phone. If the girl you are looking for is not available than the agency might be able to offer alternatives. In fact, some of the wisdom that I have learned from the Board is that if you call an agency you should probably have two or three girls in mind as preferences. The one girl I found through a taxi driver in my one week in Colombia took 30 hours to secure an appointment. However she was quite fresh and probably the best of the week. I showed her picture to some Medellin veterans and nobody recognized her. The other girls the taxi driver showed me were actually recognized as girls who frequented the Mansion. I am certain the taxi driver was tipped as part of the 200000 pesos I paid her.
I'm so spoiled-- I go to Santa Fe 2-3 times a week sometimes-.
I love getting a Hot Streety Sweety for Less than $15 And BBBJ sometimes.
Anyhow -- I love Troya when I want to Splurge But I find myself hunting down certain Street.
Girls as I have the benefit of knowing where the quality is-- And I get used to just Spending that much ($13).
For the Holy holidays I have been to busy going to mass so I have skipped SF.
Went to Troya tonite saw Cielo a Hot MILF Manizalita-- Deep throat Even as I was on the way out! Total GFE foe about $18.
I was with her a few months ago for the same (1st).
So I guess I will see her Wednesday as tomorrow is a Training day.
Guide services available.
Last week I spent 4 days in Cartagena, 4 in Medellin, and 1 overnight in Bogota because of delta airlines horse shit with spelling inconsistencies in my boarding pass (first name Czech spelling vs American spelling inconsistencies).
My one night in Bogota was spent in the living 55 hotel that was mentioned here earlier, no clue if it's chick friendly, it's in a shadier area of Bogota I presume, but it very nice for the 100 K COP cash I paid -photo attached-; the area near the airport / commercial is extremely safe looking in contrast and including nice hotels chains.
I went to dinner at Andres restaurant. It's a wicked cool looking place, definitely worth going if you're looking for a more upscale food option (100 K COP bill for drinks and steak, comparable to the nice places in Cartagena's old city and Medellin). Walking in I saw more white Spanish looking Colombians there than all my time on Colombia. Like I walked into a fancy restaurant in Madrid.
A friend I met in Medellin advised I go to el Castillo. I believe it's one of the premiere clubs in Bogota. It's in that shitty part of Bogota, Santa Fe I guess, and at the corner of the place waiting for my uber, which are available all over Bogota (unlike Cartagena and Medellin) and I sincerely recommend over the taxis, I was approached by two different weirdos at the same time from different directions and was like no thanks, please back the fuck off.
The club itself has no entry fee, and is a pretty nice setup from my experience in Colombia. Bottles are 100-300 K. Club started filling up with a lot of men which was unusual from my time in Colombia (this was a a Wednesday night). Girls are attractive, probably as attractive as la isla in Medellin, no complaints there. However drink prices are steepish; I paid 50 K COP for a diet coke and a whiskey for a chick), I assume I was supposed to get change but the guy just kept it. He told me it was 150 K COP for 30 min. That was on the more expensive end by Medellin standards, but livable I guess for Bogota's better club.
I picked a hot girl who ended up being from Venezuela (I would rate her a 8. 5, one of the hotter girls in the club) -pic attached-. I don't speak Spanish and communicate via Google translate. We danced for a while at my table. She was hot, it was hot. She then told me it was 170 K for 15 min, 250 for 30 min. I was like WHAT? That makes it as expensive at Cartagena's infamous pley club. I didn't expect that in Bogota. She made it sound like that was the house price, and negotiation wasn't a thing. It was my last night in Colombia and I had actually skipped Venezuela to go to Colombia instead for safety reasons so I thought 250 K for 30 min, fine, whatever, my last hours in Colombia, a hot Venezuelan will be poetic, plus I was sure she was supporting an entire family in that country's economic turmoil, so let me be ripped off. And she said I could take a photo of her too. I didn't bring that much with me after the drinks and high cost, so I asked if they accepted cards which they did (I had not used my card anywhere but bank ATM my whole time in Colombia until then). We went the to cashier chick, she swiped my card and gave me a receipt for 390 K to sign! I was like no, and refused to sign it. I never really negotiate with anyone if the price isn't fair-ish, and just thankfully decline. Here I had to Google translate that they needed to cancel it. The additional fees on top of the 250 K were the house / card fees or whatever, I wasn't listening or cared. My chick was pissed once we finally got it canceled (I tipped the cashier chick like 6 k to save some face in all the nonsense of canceling the charge). My chick didn't even want to sit with me for an apology drink I told here I would get. She told me if I had 170 K COP in cash I could still do 15-20 min. I had that much in cash and I felt like shit at that point about the whole thing, so I agreed. She got happier after that. We went up to the rooms, they were unused, my guess the girls don't get that many takers, just lots of bottle-service chat / dance action (similar to la isla given the prices). Rooms were big. I started getting undressed and she took my phone to take some selfies, I forgot about that in all the mess. We had a nice session, she tongue kissed me too. I'm not upset with the 170 K for the session. But I would not repeat for that much at that club, or any club in Colombia after my time in Fase dos in Medellin. We said our goodbyes. On my uber ride back, near my hotel around a turn where a club was closing, these 3 weirdo crack heads started talking to me through the window, and actually started chasing the uber in full sprint for a bit when it start to pull away. It was the only time I felt in danger in Colombia. I mean imagine if these guys met me outside the security of a car, I would literally have to run from them in the middle of the night in a city I know nothing about.
Anyway, I'm very attractive, so I'm especially offended when I get ripped off for my own reasons, valid or not, and hate it. I *think* my friend said he paid 60 K for 15-20 min at el Castillo, so I have no idea if girls have different prices or what, so that just confused the whole affair for me. And on top of the weather always sucking in Bogota (I don't travel 10 hours from California to have to wear a jacket) and the danger I felt, I will not be coming back to Bogota. Fase Dos stripclub in Medellin (180 k for hour with any girl, no horse shit) on the other hand. Take me back.
In terms of the online agencies. Can anyone recommend a decent one which does not do the typical bait and switch?
Is this hotel by Marriott chica friendly?
How about the JW Marriott?
Trip in a few months.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;1858212]
Anyway, I'm very attractive, so I'm especially offended when I get ripped off for my own reasons, valid or not, and hate it. I *think* my friend said he paid 60 K for 15-20 min at el Castillo, so I have no idea if girls have different prices or what, so that just confused the whole affair for me. And on top of the weather always sucking in Bogota (I don't travel 10 hours from California to have to wear a jacket) and the danger I felt, I will not be coming back to Bogota. Fase Dos stripclub in Medellin (180 k for hour with any girl, no horse shit) on the other hand. Take me back.[/QUOTE]I'm trying to figure out where in California you could be from that never requires a jacket. Even Ridgecrest is chilly this time of year and having spent a winter almost homeless in San Diego, I know how miserable the weather can be.
As far as weather goes, year round, Bogota beats just about any place on the planet. Humidity is low, temperature almost never leaves the 45-80° range, cool at night, warm during the day, 12 hours of daylight year round. No swarms of mosquitoes or flies to deal with. Just not much to complain about. Even many of the more upscale hotels don't have air conditioning or heating. Other than rainy season, you're almost guaranteed good weather.
Granted it's a potentially dangerous city, and Santa Fe isn't the best area, especially at night, but what do you expect in a city of 8 (census) to 12 (ask a local) million people? Try a midnight stroll in South Bronx or Ford Heights in Chicago, or East San Diego, Compton, Watts. Every city has places best avoided at night.
I'm a bit confused about the relationship between being attractive and getting upset about being ripped off? Don't ugly people get upset when they are ripped off? I always thought that was universal.
I'm not trying to beat you up over the report. It just seems you let the one real issue, overcharging your card, taint everything about your brief stay. Bogota is better than that, but it requires some research and you were tossed into a situation where you didn't have the time for the research.
The guys who chased the Uber outside the club, just a guess, had probably called for one and thought you had grabbed their ride. I'm not saying it couldn't happen on the street, but not many thieves are going to chase after a moving car.
All my annoying criticism aside, thanks for the informative report.
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;1858212]Anyway, I'm very attractive, so I'm especially offended when I get ripped off for my own reasons, valid or not, and hate it. I *think* my friend said he paid 60 K for 15-20 min at el Castillo, so I have no idea if girls have different prices or what, so that just confused the whole affair for me.[/QUOTE]Well they figured since you are so beautiful you can afford to get ripped off. Us ugly guys get freebies and cheapies because they feel sorry for us.
I think your friend was wrong, or confused, or possibly had not even been to Castillo. I reported last August that Castillo was 160k. (Or maybe you didn't hear the "1" part when he said it.) I am not sure why anyone would pay that when they can go around the corner to Troya and get girls just as good for 36k. I walked into Castillo, asked the girls the prices, and walked right back out.
Be careful when using Uber. The chick came to see me at the airport and said she paid 25k for a taxi there. She wanted me to spend the night with her so we went to a hotel close to her house on the north side. When we were leaving about 4am the guy at the hotel for some reason could not get a taxi on the phone. So I called up an Uber that was close. I did not know until after I got my receipt that there is a 15k surcharge for airport trips. The total ended up being 39k. Highway robbery. And the funny thing was that as soon as we were pulling off in the Uber a taxi appeared in front of the hotel.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1858380]I'm trying to figure out where in California you could be from that never requires a jacket. Even Ridgecrest is chilly this time of year and having spent a winter almost homeless in San Diego, I know how miserable the weather can be.
As far as weather goes, year round, Bogota beats just about any place on the planet. Humidity is low, temperature almost never leaves the 45-80 range, cool at night, warm during the day, 12 hours of daylight year round. No swarms of mosquitoes or flies to deal with. Just not much to complain about. Even many of the more upscale hotels don't have air conditioning or heating. Other than rainy season, you're almost guaranteed good weather.
Granted it's a potentially dangerous city, and Santa Fe isn't the best area, especially at night, but what do you expect in a city of 8 (census) to 12 (ask a local) million people? Try a midnight stroll in South Bronx or Ford Heights in Chicago, or East San Diego, Compton, Watts. Every city has places best avoided at night.
I'm a bit confused about the relationship between being attractive and getting upset about being ripped off? Don't ugly people get upset when they are ripped off? I always thought that was universal.
I'm not trying to beat you up over the report. It just seems you let the one real issue, overcharging your card, taint everything about your brief stay. Bogota is better than that, but it requires some research and you were tossed into a situation where you didn't have the time for the research.
The guys who chased the Uber outside the club, just a guess, had probably called for one and thought you had grabbed their ride. I'm not saying it couldn't happen on the street, but not many thieves are going to chase after a moving car.
All my annoying criticism aside, thanks for the informative report.[/QUOTE]OK. Well not sure what the weather report has to do with anything LOL. But to clarify, I don't fly on vacation 10 hours to wear a jacket. I hate the fucking cold. It's why I would never live on the east coast. Why I would never vacation in Europe in the winter or go to Alaska LOL. And it's why I don't want to go to Bogota on vacation. Compared to Medellin which had amazing weather for me and Cartagena, which was hot but still preferable to Bogota's cold weather for me, Bogota would have to be better in all other aspects for me to care enough to have to walk around in pants and a jacket. And it wasn't for me. The dudes who chased the uber did not think it was their vehicle, they didn't even look like they knew what uber was LOL. They also weren't with each other. They saw me a gringo in the back window and came up to the back Window where I was sitting and were calling and motioning to me through it. Twice between the car moving slowly around the corner. And then sprinted after it when it started moving around the turn. It was really weird. I guess I can see why you're defending the place, I guess you like it. But don't try to make up explanations for my experiences. I didn't post that here because I'm a timid, unconscious, non-exploitative individual. I posted it because it was the weirdest encounter I had in all my time traveling in Colombia and made me uncomfortable. I get that there are places in America that would be met with similar danger or unease. But why are you comparing these things. I went to Cartagena. I went to Medellin. I went to Bogota. I disliked Bogota the most for the reasons I posted. Why would I go to Bogota when I can get better weather and the same mothering experience at the same or better price. If there is a fase dos copy in Bogota, I'd be happy to know it. But I doubt there is and even if there was, I will still say, okay. The weather still sucks.
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;1858212]My one night in Bogota was spent in the living 55 hotel that was mentioned here earlier, no clue if it's chick friendly, it's in a shadier area of Bogota I presume[/QUOTE]I stayed in the same hotel in Jan. Chapinero is not the best, but I wouldn't say it's a shady neighborhood.
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;1858212] On my uber ride back, near my hotel around a turn where a club was closing, these 3 weirdo crack heads started talking to me through the window, and actually started chasing the uber in full sprint for a bit when it start to pull away. It was the only time I felt in danger in Colombia.[/QUOTE]However, it is known as a gay neighborhood. So those guys were probably just high and horny after hitting the clubs and wanted a piece of their gringo ass. The reason, is as you stated:
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;1858212]Anyway, I'm very attractive[/QUOTE]The hotel is chica-friendly, BTW.
First report here so apologies if I break any of the forum etiquette. This is based on two trips to Bogota in Oct of last year and Jan of this year.
Hotel / Lodging: I stayed the first time at Dann Carlton (the one on Calle 94). No problem with girls coming to the room with me--when I called the agency I just met the girl in the lobby. That was done on the recommendation of the agency; I don't know if it would have been possible to have the girl come up directly by talking with the front desk. No guest charges.
Second trip I stayed at an AirBnb that turned out to be an ApartHotel in the Parque 93 area (luxury hotel 93 park on airbnb) No additional charge and no difficulty in having the girl come up. I called the agency, front desk called when she arrived and that was it. No problems and no charges.
I preferred the airbnb for other reasons but either one is a good option.
Cell phone. I got a cheap local phone from Claro to use. Better to carry around and easier to have a local number.
Girls. I used solitasparati agency both trips. Photos are real and there's no bait-and-switch. It's a good idea to have at least three girls in mind when you call, since on multiple occasions I called and the girls weren't available that day. One time, none of the three were available but the lady who answered the phone recommended a similar type based on my picks. It's a pretty easy, drama free solution and you really do know what you're getting, at least physically. Service level varied by girl, but in general was good. They seem to have a fair amount of turnover with the girls so the only one still listed on their site that I know is Linda and service was good not great. No clock watching but not real GFE either. She is gorgeous though. I didn't use any other agencies (they have an affiliated agency called Niisha that I also used but the sites are interconnected) so I can't say how it compares but the lack of bait-and-switch was refreshing. If you have a local phone you can call the girls directly on their days off. You can negotiate that for either a cheaper rate or a longer stay (I went with the latter).
Loutron. I went there on a Wed afternoon just after it opened (maybe around 1 pm). The place is a little hard to find- it's a private house and a side street running parallel to the main street. It's directly across from an office tower and you enter through the garage. Security wands you and you go inside for the presentation of the girls. When I went there were about 7 girls, ranging from 5-7. I went with Jasmine, a girl from Bogota, maybe early 20's. Attractive but not strikingly so but good chemistry and good performer. I got a couple of beers while here and I don't remember the exact final tally (sorry, it was a while ago) but I remember thinking it was high. Maybe COP 350 k. The location was convenient where I was staying so I went. Hard to judge the place on an off-hours visit. I'm in no hurry to return but if I were local to it I'd check it out and a better time.
I didn't try any of the casas / MPs.
I have a Bogota trip scheduled the end of this month and find myself low on Popi's favorite pills. I hit about 4 pharmacies 2 months ago while in Bogota but I was surprised the prices to be way higher then Rio or Costa Rica. Anyone know of a good place to buy generics?
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1865613]I have a Bogota trip scheduled the end of this month and find myself low on Popi's favorite pills. I hit about 4 pharmacies 2 months ago while in Bogota but I was surprised the prices to be way higher then Rio or Costa Rica. Anyone know of a good place to buy generics?[/QUOTE]I haven't been since January (coming back 30 April for couple of weeks), but I was able to get some fairly reasonably at the Farmatoda near Commercial Gran Estancia (Conferias / Corferias area. Calle 24, I think) These pharmacies are all over the place.
Day 1 Friday beginners luck.
After spending two nights of my vacation in South Beach Florida, I decided to stop wasting my time and booked a flight through Google flights. I got a great deal, a round trip flight from Fort Lauderdale to Bogota for just $160 via Spirit Airline. This is my first trip to Bogota, but already been to Medellin, Cartagena, Barranquilla and Santa Marta. Once I landed in Bogota, I checked if there was a bus going to the center of town and I found the Metro millennium bus for just 2000 cop or 70 cents usd just outside the terminal were the taxis were waiting. So I ditch the taxi. I travel light with just one backpack not too large so traveling this way is easy and don't like to take taxis to avoid scams and save more money. I also love walking and like to explore areas that way. I speak Spanish fluently and can pass easy for a local. A local oriented me with the metro millennium bus use and how to get to the city center in San Diego. He told me to get off at San Diego stop and from there I started walking around to begin to familiarize myself with the streets, carreras and barrios.
4 pm.
After getting out of the metro millennium bus, I went for a walk to explore the San Diego, Las Candelarias, and Santa Fe. I used WT69 map and information from the ISG Bogota listing and trip reports. I walked most time during this trip and hanged out in San Diego, la Candelaria and Santa Fe areas during day and evening hours. I also used my iPhone Google map application from time to type and discreetly as I walked around.
While walking in the Santa Fe area by Kra 15,14 and 16 and calle 19 and 20, I think I ended up in the worst part of Santa Fe with lots of transgerders, many fatties, older women, some girls sniffing glue, junkies, ugly women, etc. Most were standing on corners and sidewalk. I began to wonder if I made the right decision for coming to Bogota to see this depressing scene. I have to say that I considered myself new to mongering and I don't like or am not used to picking streetwalkers. If I am going to get laid here I will have to get out of my comfort zone. The positive was that I did not feel threatened in this area and it was still light hours. It was an interesting block and I stopped by a block were there were some women on calle 21 and 22 and Kra 16, but the quality was really bad. I stopped at something that looked like a cafeteria to drink some coffee and pan de bono and to watch a little the activity of those women. After a few minutes I spotted a petite girl with a nice ass and pretty face. She was pretty good to be in that area so I thought she is was a rare find. Just the way she dressed with no makeup and no so revealing like the others, she was an 8-9 in my ratings. She was standing next to an obvious hooker with excessive make up showing too much. The girl did not look like she belonged there. This girl did not have high heels and had a mini dress and was playing with her phone and was not trying to attract customers. After I finished with my coffee and pan de bono, I walked towards the two women. I don't like to pick girls where people are watching on the street and I felt as if people where watching me as I moved. I prefer seeing a line up in an MP place than this. In any case I stopped where the two girls were standing and made eye contact with the spinner. She smiled at me, the friend next to her left as soon as I started talking to her. I only said Hi. She said Como estas y que quieres or how are you and what you want. I asked her what she offered and she replied everything you want, sexo. I said okay how much? She quoted me 25 k or 8.5 USD for 20 minutes and the room included. I said then let's go and did not negotiate the price. Right where she was standing there was short term hotel and she walked me in and she paid the room. The session was not great but it was pretty good, a standard blow job with a condom and then sex missionary and her sideways. She had a find ass and I like her face. Some kissing in the mouth and face, not tongue, and kissing of her breast was allowed. She smelled good too. I asked her where she is from and to my surprise she said she was a Paisa from Medellin and was 22 with no kids. She was a really nice barrio girl with little education. After I was done, she got dressed and left quickly. I regretted not asking for her whatsapp. I left happy and ended up eating at a cheap restaurant a nice fried Mojarrra fish in Santa Fe. This area is a bit shady but did not seem intimidated or in danger while walking cause a lot business opened and people outside day and night. I saw police patrolling the area and checking people's ID.
6 pm.
I did not make any hotel reservations and just started to look around. I walked around for more than an hour and ended up in the barrio las candelarias and the cultural center of Bogota. I was trying to find a good hostel but most were booked because it was Friday and I was in the most touristic area and also University area. Universidad de Los Andes, Universidad Tadeo Lozano and La Universidad del Rosario, are some of the schools in the area. Then I found Hotel Dorado at Kra 4 No 12 D-72 in a very nice area of Candelaria, full of cool bars and restaurants. The hotel was only 27 k or 9 USD and I paid without asking any questions. But as soon as I got to my room, I found that this hotel is a dump inside, the bed cheap, the mattress cheap, the sheets and cover were cheap and bathroom was shared and outside the room. I regretted not looking at the room before paying, but then I thought it is just for a night and the next day I could find a better one or a hostel. This area however is as great area to stay, it has the universities near and there was party atmosphere everywhere and lots of young people from the universities and tourists, backpackers. It is also a colonial, an artsy area, Yippy Yappy, rock and roll, punk type of area. The loud music in the area and partying did not stop until 4 am so I did not get a good sleep.
Day 2 Strip club and finding el Dorado land.
4 pm--7 pm.
I went for a walk to Santa fe and did not see anything inspiring. The walk was 20 minutes from my hotel. I was trying to find the girl at day one but I did not see her on her spot. I left and walked towards the San Diego area. In the San Diego area I stumble into two guys that gave me a business card to go to their clubs, one called Stripper Show at Kra 10 No 15-13 and another called Casa Show International pasarelas at Kra 8 No 19-31 and I went inside Casa Show. I got a beer for 3.5 k. There was stripping and the quality was good, more than 15 girls inside and many customers too. I noticed as beautiful girl with a curvy figure, tanned skin, dark hair and eye. Said she was 25 and from a town called El Dorado. She look from the middle east and was and easy 9 in my rating. Nice big bubble ass too. I noticed some older man sitting with some of the girls and drinking with them. Nice music, nice place. The girl I liked passed by me and made eye contact with me. I followed her and stopped next to her to say Hi and we started talking. She was more beautiful closer and she was quite friendly and giggly. I offered her a drink and we sat down near a girl that was stripping. I told her not to get a drink too expensive because I did not know the prices. She picked a creamy drink that cost 7 K or 2.5 usd, compared to the beer price that was expensive.
I began to negotiate because I didn't want to spend my money in drink. And she got another 7 k drink. Next she quoted me 47 K or 16 Usd with the room included. I think it was 40 K for her and 7 for the room. She kept the change and said with a smile thanks for my tip. She took me to a room in the place and she paid a guy for the room. This girl new how to suck a dick and that ass was just fantastic To my disappointment, I noticed that the girl wanted to finish me quickly and was aggressively trying to jerk me off with her hands and while blowing me. I asked her to stop since I was hard enough to start and then she climbed on me without even asking me, but I did not mind and had sex in just that position. She had such a fine ass that I could feel it the whole time bouncing my balls. This a good fuck. It was not great because she was trying to rush me the whole time and stopped being friendly and affectionate as soon as we started. She left the room quickly after I was done. I felt used LOL. The total damage with this girl, 2 drinks for her and 2 beers for me was 70 k or 23 usd. After leaving the place, I realized that the day earlier I found a jewel and I let her get away. I wanted to find that Paisa spinner again but did not have her number.
8 pm.
I walked back to Santa Fe and As I walked I realized that I had not been to the best part of Santa FE after I walked passed La Pisicina Night Club at Kra 15 and Calle 23 and began to see lots of brothels with girls standing at the front porch on calle 23,24, 22, and Kra 15,16 and 14. It was like a combination of Tijuana with girls standing everywhere and by passing by the casas it felt like window shopping in Amsterdam red light district. I passed many casas with girls standing inside the casas entrance and saw the signs for Club Las Paisas Kra 16 a calle 23-58, El Castillo calle 23 no 14-19 Troya Club Kra 16 no 23-89, Atunes Kra 16 no 23-19, and Las Vegas Club Kra 15 23-7. The quality was much better in this area, and the street and avenues on the back of the Piscina Club. Since I just got drained and am not into sport fucking I went back to my hotel. I also needed a day to recharge. I noticed some hotels right in the center of the action and although I felt safe in the Santa Fe area, I did not want to stay in that area at all because it is sort of too low class and prostitutes where everywhere. I will need to recharge and gather my energy for the next day. I was happy that I found El Dorado land or two dorados because the girl at the strip club also said she was from a city call El Dorado. I found a decent local hotel for 37 k or 13 usd hotel Espana at Kr 7 No 23-20. This hotel is not high class but it has a good bed, the room is clean and has a bathroom. And it is just 10 minutes walk to Santa Fe and is located right on avenida 7 which is a really good avenue to be at, to walk, to find shops, restaurants and it is safe. This hotel does not appear to be chica friendly.
Day 3- Sunday window shopping 101 and a day to forget about.
11 am.
I walked to Santa Fe, and went sort of window shopping through the casas. There are no windows but the girls stand in the front of the houses or inside the car garages. The girls at most casas don't set their foot outside of the houses. Most stand inside. Perhaps this is regulation. I spotted one I liked at a Casa but I don't remember the name of that casa. She said her name was Camila and was 22 and from Cali. She quoted me 40 k for 20 minutes and 7 k for the room. I did not negotiate just said yes. This was a bad decision. This was one of the worst fuck I got in Colombia. This girl did not want to fuck at all and when we got in the room she did not want to blow me either and said something about her braces that she could not suck my dick. I was about to stop and leave but since I paid already I wanted to get a release regardless of her poor attitude. I told her to LE met play with her ass since she has as beautiful ass and she let me play with it. I had sex in one position with her doggy style and had a release somehow, but it did not feel good at all. Jerking off myself would have felt better. She left the room soon as I got my release. This seems to be the pattern that I experience with most of the girls from Santa Fe. They leave the room without washing their pussies as soon as you are finished and they get ready for the next victim.
Day 4- Paisas in a day piscina.
12 pm.
I went to Santa Fe again. This time I walked on the blocks behind la piscina and circle the streets and avenues nearby again doing my now routine window shopping. Honestly, I don't like picking up girls this way. I like more re private settings. I stopped at a casa that have some attractive young girls standing at the front of the house. I saw one I like, a white spinner with long dark hair and shapely body and began to negotiate. Well, I have not really negotiated in all my encounters and had agreed to what the girls tell me because sex is so ridiculous cheap here. The girl said 40 K (13.50 USD) with the room included for 20 minutes. I said lets go. I got the standard blow job, she let me kiss her face and lips, no tongue. Sex in three positions and she was warm and accommodating. No bad for 40 K. The girl told me she was from Medellin. Then I had an existentialist revelation and asked myself why I was in Bogota and not Medellin. The girl also told me that the casa is called La Piscina de DIA and that the girls from La Piscina night club frequent the place during the day the day. The day piscina casa is located at Kra 15 no 22-69.
I got stopped several times by Police in the Santa Fe area who asked me for ID and whoever that passed then. I had my passport with me and the police was polite with me. Please note that it is illegal not to have your ID in Colombia and you could get arrested for not having ID.
As I walked back to my hotel, a guy gave me a card of MP erotic place at Kr 10 no 21-68 3rd floor. I don't know if this place is good or bad. Well tonight, I'm checking in a hostel in las Candelarias, either hostal aventureros [URL]www.hostalaventureros.com[/URL] kra 3 and 12 c-82 or hostal fatima www. Hostalfatima. I'm doing this just because I like to interact with other travellers, want to do some touristic things. I also want to be in a more social environment than alone in hotel and both noted hostels are well situated jwith free breakfast and 25 k per night.
Conclusions:
This city of Bogota is huge. There is a lot to be said about the mongering scene. I can only speak a bit of Santa Fe red light area. Just a couple of days is not enough to get a taste of just Santa fFe Zona Rosa. If you are into the sex clubs and strip sex clubs and picking girls on the street, then this is your paradise. For me, I got spoiled by Medellin and preferred Medellin to Bogota. I prefer looking at the chicas in more private settings and not in places where many people are watching. Also, I am not much into going into the clubs at night and this scene to be most prevalent form of mongering such as going to La Piscina, Troya, Paisa clubs, Las Vegas, etc. I think that the girls in Medellin even in the cheap casas are cleaner and wash themselves after a session. Maybe it has to do with the weather in Bogota and the fricking cold water in the shower that no one want to touch. The weather here is cool or cold and can get very chilly at night. Most places don't have hot water in the shower and the water feels like ice. In that sense I prefer Medellin. This city is also safe in relative terms depending of where you are and much safer than years ago. There are areas I was told that you should not walk (el Cartucho now called la L and Bronx) area near avenidas Caracas kra 14) barrios San Victorino, Parque Metropolitano, Los Martines y Zona Franca. I was told that people get robbed a lot or killed there to get their organs as there is some type of organized organ trafficking. Probably five years ago, I would have been killed or kidnapped just walking the way I was walking alone during the day and evening hours in Santa Fe, but today is pretty okay during the day and evening. I don't recommend walking alone at night or even during the day if you don't speak Spanish in Santa Fe. But day time is okay even if you look like a gringo. You still have to exercise good judgment and not to attract too much attention, and be vigilant or you are going to get screwed just like anywhere else in the world.
Cerebro
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;1865613]I have a Bogota trip scheduled the end of this month and find myself low on Popi's favorite pills. I hit about 4 pharmacies 2 months ago while in Bogota but I was surprised the prices to be way higher then Rio or Costa Rica. Anyone know of a good place to buy generics?[/QUOTE]What prices were you paying in those places? Just last week in Medellin, I walked into the first pharmacy I saw on La 70, and picked this up for 3000 COP. Two 50 MG tablets for $1 US.
[QUOTE=Cerebro;1867930]This city of Bogota is huge. If you are into the sex clubs and strip sex clubs and picking girls on the street, then this is your paradise. For me, I got spoiled by Medellin and preferred Medellin to Bogota. I prefer looking at the chicas in more private settings and not in places where many people are watching. Also, I am not much into going into the clubs at night and this scene to be most prevalent form of mongering such as going to La Piscina, Troya, Paisa clubs, Las Vegas, etc. [/QUOTE]As someone who've benefited from your reports (Barranquilla) before, I wish you'd had RTFF my man! I don't think my style is any different than yours; please go back and read my reports back in January this year.
Are you still in Bogota now? For day time casa action, go to Chapinero. You'll find your familiar environment there, like inspecting a line-up then choose your girl. There are dozens of casas in Chapinero and prices are equal to what you paid those street walkers. You may also collect some phone numbers / Whatsapp to arrange for outside encounters.
You say you're not much of a night / strip club person but just do this for me bro -- go hit up Troya and Fiebre Sex tonight. There's no pressure of buying drinks or any of that bullshit. Just have a relaxed time, get one of the many hot girls sit and chat with you. If you found one who has a good vibe, then take her upstairs. The ones that I have all waited till I finished getting dressed and left together, some even holding hands LOL. I guarantee you, the talent level at Fiebre Sex you'll be happy with.
Finally, I wouldn't have stayed in La Candelaria. I know you don't mind, but hanging with millennial back-packers and having shared bathrooms is not my idea of fun. Spend US $15 more and get a decent private hotel room elsewhere! Besides, if you stayed further uptown, you would've walked North to South and hit the best part of Santa Fe first and saved yourself the trouble of trannies, junkies and fuglies.
It's not too late to salvage your trip! I have not been to Medellin yet (will go there in July), but I was pleased with the girls in Bogota.
As I got more comfortable with window casa shopping, picking girls at the street, and visiting the clubs in the Santa Fe area, my trip got better and better. These are my final notes:
Day 5 Finding a great apartment and GF.
2 PM.
I found an apartment day rental through [URL]booking.com[/URL] at El Barrio las Candelarias Apartaestudio Candelarias Majica at Calle 12 be No. 3- 95, Candelarias. Centro Historico, Bogota for just 50 K per night or 17.
USD. This is a fantastic apartment and very private, good class, safe and well situated just the way I like it, just a regular apartment. The place is a 10 minutes taxi ride to Santa Fe or walking 20-25 minutes.
I think This place is a rare opportunity and I decided to book it for the remaining of my trip. Here is the link: [URL]http://www.booking.com/hotel/co/candelaria-magica.html[/URL].
5 pm-8 pm.
In the afternoon, I went for a walk to Santa Fe as I did every day. Some of the faces of the women that stand at the casas are becoming familiar and some are recognizing me from my walks and a few girls.
Asked me for cigarettes or coffee whenever I stopped to buy coffee from the coffee street vendors near their casas. This is a good thing to do to look at the girls as they stand. I stopped to drink.
Some coffee at a Casa next to La Piscina night club. I think the name of that casa is El Encanto for the sign written at the front. I spotted some good lookers here standing inside. And one white petite pretty.
Girl with dark long hair in particular was calling my attention. She was wearing jeans and sneakers, nothing revealing. She was smiling at me as our eyes met. After I drank my coffee, I approached her. She said.
She was from Manizales and quoted me 40 K for 15 minutes plus 7 K room. Since I like her, I told her that I needed at least 30 minutes with her. She agreed to go for 60 k for haft plus 14 k for the room. Her name.
She said was Dulce (means sweet) Maria. And She was absolutely sweet and gorgeous, her face like a doll, and her body smooth and well proportioned in all the areas. The best part was that this girl was my.
First GF encounter in Bogota and was a very easy going girl and not like those hard core women. She took me to a room inside and she paid the room after I gave her the money. The room was nice and clean.
With a clean bed and shower. She said she has been in Santa Fe for 4 days and wanted to leave to Manizales this week and that she has been in the business for 3 months and was doing this type of work.
Because she lost her job and needed her money to survive and for a 5 year old daughter she has to support and left in Manizales and pay her rent there. This girl was super sweet and the session felt like love.
Making not just sex and got a great release while kissing her mouth and face. After the great session, I got her contact number and told her I wanted to see her again. She said the same. She did not have.
Whattapp or did not use any type of social media and did not have a Smart phone just one of those cheap tiny phones. She was very simple and was not impressed and was not interested in having technology.
After that I went back to my apartment with a happy face.
Day 6 Exploring some Santa Fe clubs.
11 AM.
In the morning I walked from my place to Santa Fe. This walk takes me about 15-20 minutes because I walk fast and I enjoy it exploring the areas this way. I was trying to find Dulce Maria, but I did not see her.
I ate my lunch in Santa Fe and went back to my apartment after that.
5 pm.
I went back to Santa and tried to find Dulce Maria with no success. I called her number but her phone was off. I decided to check the clubs in the area. At 6 pm, I went inside Paisa Club. There was a stunning.
Typical Paisa stripping with nice round ass, long legs, dark hair, light skin. There were about 5 girls inside. The Club environment makes it difficult to interact with the girls. There were only 4 guys in the clubs and.
Nobody was talking to the girls. The girls seemed shy and were not aggressive. I got a beer for 5 K and drank my beer. I watched the beautiful stripper and wanted to pick her but was sort of shy. I hesitated.
Too much, when she finished her dance, she got dressed and left the club. Dammed I thought to myself, I left that cute get away. The way it works in this club if you are not already talking with the stripper is.
That you have to tell a waiter to communicate to her that you are interested in having her and he will pass the message to the stripper and then she will come to you easily. I left this club after the girl left.
Because the other girls were not as attractive and I wanted to hit myself in the head for not acting to get the stripper quicker.
6 PM.
I went to the Club next to Paisa Club which is Fiebre Sex (sex fever). This club was more vivid and had a lot of more customers and girls than Paisa Club. Also, here it is much easier to interact with the girls.
That kept walking around the bar. There was a girl with an amazing body stripping and everyone was paying attention to her. She was a like a 10 in all areas, amazing bubble ass and figure, and knew how to.
Dance. This place I recommend. Thanks to Parkinson for recommending it. I spotted a mulata girl with a nice figure, very voluptuous and shapely at the bar and began chatting with her. The girl said she was.
From Cali and was 28. I offered her a drink and she got a beer. The beers here were 6 K. The girl was nice and I admire her big bubble ass as I drank with her. We started talking business right away. She quoted.
Me 60 K for 20 minutes and that she was paying for the room. I agreed and we went. I had a really good session with this girl and got her whatsapp. The rooms at this club are clean and I notice some porn video.
In the room. This girl was not total GF but was closed to it and was affectionate all the way. I admired her face and bubble ass and big breast the most during the session. All was natural. With another session.
She could become a GF provider. After this session, I got her whattapp, and I went back to my place with another happy face.
Day 7 More club tours and looking for Dulce Maria.
6 pm I checked again Paisa Club and Fiebre Sex, but it was too early to be at these two clubs and I did not stay long. There were girls in there already but not many customers. I also went inside Texas Club at.
A corner at Cra 16 and Calle 23. There were lots of girls outside. This club is much lower end than Paisa Club and Fiebre Sex. The girls were of lesser quality, and many barrio girls here. If you are patient, you.
Could probably find a Barrio Gem here. However, I noticed a lot of girls with questionable ages or too young here, and decided to leave. Actually, I stayed a little long because my stomach was acting up and.
Needed to take a crap. I asked to use a bathroom and the only bathrooms with toilet were in the rooms to fuck. So I told them I would pay and they only asked me 2 K to use the bathroom. I got to see the room.
As I was in the bathroom. The beds seem very dirty and cheap. There were a lot of customers and girls in this club but none to my liking and I left. Across from this club was another club (Punto de Oro) also on.
A Cr16 and Calle 23 and I went inside to check it out. It was the same quality as Texas (low end type) and the beers were cheap, 3 K. There were many barrio girls hanging outside the bar too. I left this club and.
Then checked Troya at Cr 19 calle 23-89. This club is nice and lots of people and girls here. This is another middle / upper end type club like Paysa and Fiebre Sex Club. I got a beer for 6 k. I did not take any girls because.
I kept thinking about Dulce Maria. So I decided to check if Dulce Maria was at her previous spot (El Encanto, next to La Piscina Club). There is another club I checked called Las Vegas and lots of girls here too but.
The quality here was sort of lower end and lots of barrio girls here. I left after seeing not many customers.
8 pm.
I found Dulce Maria standing at El Encanto casa. She seemed happy and surprised to see me and I had 30 minutes session with her. I did not get enough of her and asked her if she wanted to leave the casa and.
She agreed to leave with me. So we took a 10 minutes taxi to my apartment studio in Las Candelarias. We had dinner there and another session in my place. I think I gave her 120 K total and she was with me.
From 8 pm at the casa till 11 pm at my place. I offered her a taxi to go home to her place but she said she was staying too far and was too expensive and it was better to take the transmilleniun bus home. From.
Dulce Maria I found that the girls don't work at the casas. They are only allowed to hang out in the casas if the owner agrees so that they bring then customers for the short term rooms. All the money the girls.
Get from the customers is theirs. Most places charge 7 k for 15 minutes or 20 minutes or 14 K for 30 minutes and so on. So when she told the people at the Casa that she was leaving, they did not tell her.
Anything. I only heard someone responding to her, "Te vas tan temprano?" which means leaving so early?
Day 8 Another date with Dulce Maria.
PM.
I called Dulce Maria to come to my place and she agreed to see me at my place in Las Candelarias at 6 pm. She said she was not going to work at the Casa to be with me. I had some type of date with her, did some touristic.
Things with her or actually I showed her the historic area of Las Candelarias which she did not know. Had dinner with her and some fun in the apartment with her. I like that she dresses like a normal girl or college.
Girl and not like those street girls with their high heels and revealing clothes. She is Dulce just like her name. This was another great day with her and I rewarded her well for her time and how she treated me.
She was wearing jeans and a nice black leather jacket, and white sneakers. She said she was leaving to Manizales on a bus at midnight because she was missing her daughter too much and had made enough.
Money to be there for a couple of weeks. After I had dinner, walked around and had a session with her in my apartment, I walked her to a transmilleniun terminal where she took her bus home by 10 pm. I just.
Thought after she left what a cute girl this Dulce Maria was. This girl made this trip so worthy.
Day 9 Last day and last bang.
I only had a couple of hours in the morning to check Santa Fe. I went for a walk at 9 am. It was really cold in the morning. To my surprise I found a few good lookers this early in the morning at La Piscina de DIA and at Las Vegas casa.
I chose a nice looking morena at Vegas. She quoted me 30 K for 15 minutes and 7 K for the room. I did not do much interviewing and this was a mistake. This girl was beautiful with a nice ass, but she was not.
That responsive at all and had an attitude of defiance the moment with got to the room. And the cold weather combined with a girl with a bad attitude did not help. I don't know where this girl was front. I.
Wanted the girl to turn around to do her doggy style but she refused. And we argue while I was trying to have sex. She was masturbating in the room and wanted me to masturbate. I think this was the worst.
Session of my trip. I had a bad session or probably the worst session of my trip with her and no release wasted the money here. After that I decided to check another place because I did not want to leave this trip with.
Such a bad memory. Lucky for me that I found another girl from Manizales at La Piscina de DIA. This girl was light skin, slim and tall and a shapely figure. She said she was 25 and she was the total opposite of.
The previous one. I had the best blow job from my whole trip and I almost came in her mouth. She was blowing it passionately as if she was really enjoying it. She was complacent and turned around when.
I asked her and I ended up the session doing her doggy style. And what a fine ass she had. It was a really good ending to finish my trip.
Conclusions: I like this trip, but did not love it. I did not like the cool or cold weather of Bogota, but thankfully all worked out. The girls are less clean here and this is related to that cold weather factor and cold.
Water in the showers. I like the variety of women and many options that you can find in Bogota. I have to say that I learned a lot when I got out of my comfort zone, hunting for street girls on the streets of.
Santa Fe and the clubs, which I am not used to, as well as the casas. Will I repeat Bogota? Sex is super cheap here and the options are numerous, but I don't know if I would repeat. I think I would rather go to.
Medellin than Bogota. Most of the girls I like that I found in Santa Fe were Paisas anyway so why come to Bogota when I could get all those Paisas and more in Medellin and in a warmer climate? If it was not.
For finding that sweet girl Dulce Maria from Manizales, I would have been disappointed.
Cerebro
Hello everyone,
I have read the forum in the past to get tips on places to visit. I had a great experience in Moscow a few years back. In any case, I am visiting Bogota for the first time. I have visited Cali a few times and had a great time in Clinica Dr Amor [URL]http://www.clinicadoctoramor.com/[/URL]# where is a Casa and many chicas just parade in front of you, but chicas are divided in prices, where average girls are 60 k and hour and model / operadas are about 200 k hour.
I am wandering if any of you have visited Clinica Dr Amor and if there is anything similar in Bogota? I like the idea of selection and prices depending on your taste for the day. Also, a nice House. Any other suggestions are welcome. Thank you guys and I will report.
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Hello everyone!
As I have not been to lovely Bogota (and yes, I'm referring to the ladies) in at least 7 years, I was excited to learn of a Friday night layover there en-route to Brazil (9 pm-4 am)! Any recommendations for accommodations. Really, just a nice place to bring a prepago and get a shower before the next flight? I'd like to stay in Zona Rosa if possible since I'm somewhat familiar with the layout there. I normally would try to rent an apartment, but I think given my limited time, I should go with a hotel for simplicity so I don't have to do too much coordination. Any advice is greatly appreciated!
Thanks!
Fellow deviants,
Just wondering, can someone please guide me to any current maps of places of interest in Zona Rosa, Parque 93, and Santa Fe? I'd really appreciate it! Trying to plan out my short time there! Looking at booking at Boheme Royal or Andino Royal. I've stayed in both, but if I remember right, the Chica policy changes at their whim. Any current Intel?
BTW, if anyone is wondering about my pedigree on this forum, I've been around! Just search my handle! It's just been awhile and I am extremely happy to be making my return!
Yippie Kiyay,
Rodeo
The Maps are in this thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL]
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1874420]Fellow deviants,
Just wondering, can someone please guide me to any current maps of places of interest in Zona Rosa, Parque 93, and Santa Fe? I'd really appreciate it! Trying to plan out my short time there! Looking at booking at Boheme Royal or Andino Royal. I've stayed in both, but if I remember right, the Chica policy changes at their whim. Any current Intel?
BTW, if anyone is wondering about my pedigree on this forum, I've been around! Just search my handle! It's just been awhile and I am extremely happy to be making my return!
Yippie Kiyay,
Rodeo[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1874455]The Maps are in this thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks a bunch, I really appreciate it!
Thanks for all this great info. I will be in Bogota for the first time next week on business, but looking to play a little too. I will be staying in a hotel near World Trade Center.
Based on your report and Parkinson's, a casa with a line up in Chapinero and Fiebre Sex are good places. Is this true for someone who speaks a little Spanish? How about transportation to these places- is taxi the safest? I tend to like to get to know the girl first (chat a little) and spend about an hour with them GFE with 2 pops. Any recommendations?
Is the reason for getting their WhatsApp so that the message / call is free or to be more anonymous? I have no experience with WhatsApp?
I appreciate your report and any help you can provide!
[QUOTE=Cerebro;1870494]As I got more comfortable with window casa shopping, picking girls at the street, and visiting the clubs in the Santa Fe area, my trip got better and better. These are my final notes:
Day 5 Finding a great apartment and GF.
2 PM.
I found an apartment day rental through [URL]booking.com[/URL] at El Barrio las Candelarias Apartaestudio Candelarias Majica at Calle 12 be No. 3- 95, Candelarias. Centro Historico, Bogota for just 50 K per night or 17.
USD. This is a fantastic apartment and very private, good class, safe and well situated just the way I like it, just a regular apartment. The place is a 10 minutes taxi ride to Santa Fe or walking 20-25 minutes.
I think This place is a rare opportunity and I decided to book it for the remaining of my trip. Here is the link: [URL]http://www.booking.com/hotel/co/candelaria-magica.html[/URL].
5 pm-8 pm...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1875855]Thanks for all this great info. I will be in Bogota for the first time next week on business, but looking to play a little too. I will be staying in a hotel near World Trade Center.
Based on your report and Parkinson's, a casa with a line up in Chapinero and Fiebre Sex are good places. Is this true for someone who speaks a little Spanish? How about transportation to these places- is taxi the safest? I tend to like to get to know the girl first (chat a little) and spend about an hour with them GFE with 2 pops. Any recommendations?
Is the reason for getting their WhatsApp so that the message / call is free or to be more anonymous? I have no experience with WhatsApp?
I appreciate your report and any help you can provide![/QUOTE]Whatsapp is a texting app, so people can text over wifi. Lots of people use it instead of texting. If you're trying to find women through social media or dating sites, it's a good idea to have Whatsapp.
You can use taxi, but it's a good idea to have your hotel call for one. Flagging one down isn't always a good idea. Your other option is the Transmilenio. There are smaller buses that run up and down Carrera 7. The main buses run down Autopista Norte, a bit of a walk to the west.
There used to be women who worked the street in front of Hotel Dann Carlton (Cra 15 and Calle 103) at night. The place known as the "mezzanine" is just across the street from Dann Carlton. A search should give you the details.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1875855]Thanks for all this great info. I will be in Bogota for the first time next week on business, but looking to play a little too. I will be staying in a hotel near World Trade Center.
Based on your report and Parkinson's, a casa with a line up in Chapinero and Fiebre Sex are good places. Is this true for someone who speaks a little Spanish? How about transportation to these places- is taxi the safest? I tend to like to get to know the girl first (chat a little) and spend about an hour with them GFE with 2 pops. Any recommendations?
Is the reason for getting their WhatsApp so that the message / call is free or to be more anonymous? I have no experience with WhatsApp?
I appreciate your report and any help you can provide![/QUOTE]Hotel near world trade center is a good distance from Santa Fe but a very short distance fromthe Mezzanines. If your preference is an hour GFE then I would not recommend Santa Fe, girls there are Pros +++, while the girls at the agencies, and spas (including the Mezzanines) are for the most part more semi-pros, you chance there is much better there to find what you are looking for, and you will probably pay less for the hour than in Santa Fe. (my opinion), other good options are indys that advertise via twitter. Most offer hour long (or longer) GFE services.
Taxis, most taxis in Bogota subscribe to "easy taxi" a safer option than just hauling a taxi off the street. Note that you will need internet access to use the apps. Uber I believe operates in country, another option is get as indicated by jjbee, hotel to get you a taxi but, get the taxi driver to give you his name and number, when you need him just call him, trust me they will welcome the business, make sure to tip him and he will be loyal to you.
In LatinAmerica whatsapp is the most popular app for chatting, most everyone has it, getting it depends on how long you will reman in country and how often you will visit Latin America. If you will be in country just a few days with no plans of returning frequently I would not bother.
Be safe, use common sense, trust your instincts, let your big head stay in control, have fun.
Although I don't know the casas in Chapineros, it is a good options for you based on Parkinson's reports and what you are looking for. I can't say much about the places in Chapinero cause I don't have first hand experience there. As for Santa Fe, sex and encounters tend to be fast unless you willing to pay for the time. The sessions in Santa Fe are usually 15-20 minutes sessions, but the good thing is that those sessions are supper cheap, about 30-40 K or 10-13 dollars for that time. For that short time period is difficult to get a GF experience but if you find something you like, you may find GFE if you pay for more time.
For day action (morning to evening), I recommend you visit La Piscina de DIA and El Encanto (Next to La Piscina night club) casas. Some of the best clubs in Santa Fe are: Fiebre Sex, Paysa Clubs, and Troya Club. Also La Piscina night club is good, but the girls are more expensive. Your little Spanish may be a problem because most girls don't speak English, but money often does wonders and I am sure the putas would be motivated to communicate with you just as you with them. As for the taxis, I don't like to take taxis not even in the USA so I am the wrong person to ask. In Colombia, I prefer to walk and take public transportation. If you are nervous about taking a random taxi, have the hotel you go to arrange a taxi for you.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1875855]Thanks for all this great info. I will be in Bogota for the first time next week on business, but looking to play a little too. I will be staying in a hotel near World Trade Center.
Based on your report and Parkinson's, a casa with a line up in Chapinero and Fiebre Sex are good places. Is this true for someone who speaks a little Spanish? How about transportation to these places- is taxi the safest? I tend to like to get to know the girl first (chat a little) and spend about an hour with them GFE with 2 pops. Any recommendations?
Is the reason for getting their WhatsApp so that the message / call is free or to be more anonymous? I have no experience with WhatsApp?
I appreciate your report and any help you can provide![/QUOTE]
Can you please tell me how the Mezzanines work? Or if I ask at my hotel, will they know I am looking for an escort? How is that different than a spa? Can I walk to Mezzanines from WTC hotel?
Thanks so much for the information.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1876614]Hotel near world trade center is a good distance from Santa Fe but a very short distance fromthe Mezzanines. If your preference is an hour GFE then I would not recommend Santa Fe, girls there are Pros +++, while the girls at the agencies, and spas (including the Mezzanines) are for the most part more semi-pros, you chance there is much better there to find what you are looking for, and you will probably pay less for the hour than in Santa Fe. (my opinion), other good options are indys that advertise via twitter. Most offer hour long (or longer) GFE services.
Taxis, most taxis in Bogota subscribe to "easy taxi" a safer option than just hauling a taxi off the street. Note that you will need internet access to use the apps. Uber I believe operates in country, another option is get as indicated by jjbee, hotel to get you a taxi but, get the taxi driver to give you his name and number, when you need him just call him, trust me they will welcome the business, make sure to tip him and he will be loyal to you.
In LatinAmerica whatsapp is the most popular app for chatting, most everyone has it, getting it depends on how long you will reman in country and how often you will visit Latin America. If you will be in country just a few days with no plans of returning frequently I would not bother.
Be safe, use common sense, trust your instincts, let your big head stay in control, have fun.[/QUOTE]
It looks like you are staying on Calle 99. It is a short walk from there. Very safe.
They are small massage places.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1Y7d556oDwhh_X83ZCec7ItKPaXQ[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1877638]Can you please tell me how the Mezzanines work? Or if I ask at my hotel, will they know I am looking for an escort? How is that different than a spa? Can I walk to Mezzanines from WTC hotel?
Thanks so much for the information.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1877638]Can you please tell me how the Mezzanines work? Or if I ask at my hotel, will they know I am looking for an escort? How is that different than a spa? Can I walk to Mezzanines from WTC hotel?
Thanks so much for the information.[/QUOTE]The mezzanines are a number of spas (5-6) on the second floor of a shopping plaza. Walk up the stairs, you'll see a small "convenience" store (a large window, not a walk in store) depending on the time of day there may be a handful of patrons sitting in front drinking beer, do not mind them. If you go right of the store, just walk down all the way down and there is you first one, that is my favorite. You walk in, you'll see the girls hanging around, probably will flirt with you, one of them will take you to one of the rooms, and bring the girls to you one by one. You pick one or move on to the next mezzanine. Heads up, if you decide to stay there or any of the other mezzanines, know that the rooms are VERY small, you do the deed in a typical massage table, and walls are paper thin. If you are comfortable with all that you are good to go. The girl will tell you how much for the service, for how long. Service is basic you can negotiate extras with the girls. There are 2 mezzanines to the right of the store, and I believe 3 maybe 4 to the left and around. Feel free to walk in, check the girls and walk out to check the girls at the next one. They are used to that, but my experience has been that the one at the end on the right has the prettiest girls, a little bit more but. What is 5 uSD extra?. Service for the hour I believe is 80k, 50k for 30 mins. Or along those lines. It has been a year or so since I visited. A plus with the mezzanines is that you can easily get the girl's cell phone for an outside meet, I had a couple of great times with girls I met there and later came to my hotel.
Yes you could walk to the mezzanines from WTC, probably a 10 minute walk (been there done that), just make sure you know where you are going, there is a cross street under the overpass that can throw you off. Good luck and do report back.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1877638]Can you please tell me how the Mezzanines work? Or if I ask at my hotel, will they know I am looking for an escort? How is that different than a spa? Can I walk to Mezzanines from WTC hotel?
Thanks so much for the information.[/QUOTE]Here's a picture of the Mezzanines. Just go up the stairs and either go to the right or the left. There are several doors with only a number on the door. No signs, nothing to show what's there. You may hear a woman call out to you when you walk past. Toreador covered the rest. The rooms are tiny, the massage I had was good. The extras are negotiable.
You can find this place on the northwest corner of Calle 104 and Carrera 15. I grabbed the photo from Google Street view.
Thanks for the pics. I walked there from WTC before dark today. I felt safe but wanted to check it out first. Went to the right of empty store and saw the chicas at two Mezzanines. I was not impressed maybe 6-7's. I went to left and entered mezzanine 13, better selection there. Prices 60-70 K for 30 minutes depending on what you want. I did not indulge but may go back tomorrow.
Do you pay before or after massage etc, I assume before?
It was getting dark when walked back to WTC. About 15-20 min walk one way. If I can get free from work before they close tomorrow I will enjoy and report.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1878147]Here's a picture of the Mezzanines. Just go up the stairs and either go to the right or the left. There are several doors with only a number on the door. No signs, nothing to show what's there. You may hear a woman call out to you when you walk past. Toreador covered the rest. The rooms are tiny, the massage I had was good. The extras are negotiable.
You can find this place on the northwest corner of Calle 104 and Carrera 15. I grabbed the photo from Google Street view.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1878314]Thanks for the pics. I walked there from WTC before dark today. I felt safe but wanted to check it out first. Went to the right of empty store and saw the chicas at two Mezzanines. I was not impressed maybe 6-7's. I went to left and entered mezzanine 13, better selection there. Prices 60-70 K for 30 minutes depending on what you want. I did not indulge but may go back tomorrow.
Do you pay before or after massage etc, I assume before?
It was getting dark when walked back to WTC. About 15-20 min walk one way. If I can get free from work before they close tomorrow I will enjoy and report.[/QUOTE]My experience was after you get in the room the girl negotiates what you want, then collects before.
Did not get to go back Th night due to dinner with colleagues and left on Friday AM. Will try to get back there for all pleasure, no business. I want to also try Panama as have read good things on this site.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1878561]My experience was after you get in the room the girl negotiates what you want, then collects before.[/QUOTE]
I was just in Bogota this weekend. A few of the clubs were closed last week with a sign on the door that says "Sellado" (sealed). I know that Venus and A'Tun were closed for sure. I don't know how long it will last. One of the girls I know said it was because the owners did not pay the police enough. I have no idea how true that is, but it sound right to me. Strangely enough, a lot of the girls and staff from Venus were at Guadalajara on Primero de Mayo. One of the girls I know from Venus invited me to come out there. Since I'd never been out there, my wing and I took the trip. We got out there at about 1 am early Friday night / Saturday morning. It's pretty interesting. Primero de Mayo feels more spread out than Santa Fe. It also seems to have a mixture of regular clubs and bars along with the type of strip clubs you'd find in Santa Fe. The girl I knew from Santa Fe said that she preferred Guadalajara over Venus because in Primero de Mayo is safer for the girls and that more of the clients buy lap dances and take the girls upstairs as compared to Santa Fe.
I don't know all the prices in Guadalajara because I took the girl I know out. The takeout fee is 50 K. I think lap dances are 20 K. I think 20 min is from between 50-70 K. Also, I paid 100 K for a bottle of Ron Medellin. Also, I went into one club called Materas on Primero de Mayo before I went into Guadalajara. The only thing I remember from that place was that the selection of girls was terrible and that Poker beer in a can was 4 K. I hope this info helps.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1880697]I don't know all the prices in Guadalajara because I took the girl I know out. The takeout fee is 50 K. I think lap dances are 20 K. I think 20 min is from between 50-70 K. Also, I paid 100 K for a bottle of Ron Medellin. Also, I went into one club called Materas on Primero de Mayo before I went into Guadalajara. The only thing I remember from that place was that the selection of girls was terrible and that Poker beer in a can was 4 K. I hope this info helps.[/QUOTE]Nice report. I've scoped out that strip of clubs on Primero de Mayo on Google Maps before, but never been there in person. What was your feeling security-wise, do you think the strip is more dangerous than Santa Fe or about the same? I see a love motel just a couple blocks down from Guadalajara, a very short cab ride away. Also, just to confirm, you said takeout fee was 50 k? You mean the multa to take the girl out of the club right? That's a pretty low fee compared to most other venues. I guess the managers realized better to get a small piece of the action than nothing by jacking the price up so high, the chicas and guys just swap numbers and take the business outside.
[QUOTE=Phunluv;1880776]Nice report. I've scoped out that strip of clubs on Primero de Mayo on Google Maps before, but never been there in person. What was your feeling security-wise, do you think the strip is more dangerous than Santa Fe or about the same? I see a love motel just a couple blocks down from Guadalajara, a very short cab ride away. Also, just to confirm, you said takeout fee was 50 k? You mean the multa to take the girl out of the club right? That's a pretty low fee compared to most other venues. I guess the managers realized better to get a small piece of the action than nothing by jacking the price up so high, the chicas and guys just swap numbers and take the business outside.[/QUOTE]Yes, it was 50 K for the multa. I thought that was low too. The places I'd been to before wanted 70 K and up. Also, it felt like Guadalajara was just a little better run than some of the clubs in Santa Fe. But this is just my initial feeling. This was my first time in Primero de Mayo and I only spent a few hours there. I didn't know the place existed until WT 69 updated the map. Primero de Mayo definitely felt more safe. I think that's because there are also regular guys and girls out there to go clubbing. Although, the part of Santa Fe that I frequent (Between Calle 24-22 and Carrera 14-16 A) isn't really dangerous. It's just that it [U]feels[/U] grimey and dangerous, and the beggars are a bit more relentless. I still haven't completely let my guard down, but I've come to realize that a lot of what looks dangerous to us when we visit other parts of the world is just the result of poverty.
[QUOTE=Sokta169;1881183]Yes, it was 50 K for the multa. I thought that was low too. The places I'd been to before wanted 70 K and up. Also, it felt like Guadalajara was just a little better run than some of the clubs in Santa Fe. But this is just my initial feeling. This was my first time in Primero de Mayo and I only spent a few hours there. I didn't know the place existed until WT 69 updated the map. Primero de Mayo definitely felt more safe. I think that's because there are also regular guys and girls out there to go clubbing. Although, the part of Santa Fe that I frequent (Between Calle 24-22 and Carrera 14-16 A) isn't really dangerous. It's just that it [U]feels[/U] grimey and dangerous, and the beggars are a bit more relentless. I still haven't completely let my guard down, but I've come to realize that a lot of what looks dangerous to us when we visit other parts of the world is just the result of poverty.[/QUOTE]Sokta, thanks for the report on 1 de Mayo, and I can't agree more with your assessment of Santa Fe.
After WT69 mentioned 1 de Mayo, I was looking up on all I could find about the place. On YouTube, the videos on 1 de Mayo are all about the disco-type clubs there. Will definitely make a trip there next time, as I was told 1 de Mayo is also the Mecca of roast pigs in Bogota.
Hey,
Has anyone heard of Donde Juan Pa V. I. P. ? Is it the same as Juan Pablo's in Parque 93? Just saw a YouTube video of the place and it seemed to have some quality standards for the putas. Not sure if I can put a link here or not.
Hey guys,
Need a little help. I have been to either Lidos or Loutron. The place I have been to you walk inside the bar is to the left and then it opens up to a big atrium (2 floors). Is that Lidos or Loutron? Is Lido now called Angelos VIP? Can someone tell me the difference between the two? The atmosphere? Probably headed there tonight since Fiebre on Saturdays seems to be too packed with guys. Thanks!!
Viper10.
Hey everyone,
Can those on the ground in Bogota provide insight on what Atunes (in particular) is like late Friday night (say, after 10 pm) and club hopping around Santa Fe (in general)? I'd be solo, so.
Please put that context into it.
Atunes on Fridays gets going around 2:30-3 pm. By 6 pm it is emptying out and people go to Fiebre early on Fridays (6-6:30 pm). I think Friday nights at Fiebre is one of their best nights. You can mix it up by going to Castillo and Troya a little later to check them out.
Viper10.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1883508]Hey everyone,
Can those on the ground in Bogota provide insight on what Atunes (in particular) is like late Friday night (say, after 10 pm) and club hopping around Santa Fe (in general)? I'd be solo, so.
Please put that context into it.[/QUOTE]
It's become my fav place now. Not loud, lights, can talk at a normal level and fixed pricing. 60 k /20 minutes. More semi's than at night. Was there last Fri. And hit three back-to-back-to-back. One tall Venezuelan with fake T's. One white small natural C's. And ended with a real puta hard bodied 22 yr old. All covered but given the volume I think I prefer all covered now!
[QUOTE=Viper10;1883958]Atunes on Fridays gets going around 2:30-3 pm. By 6 pm it is emptying out and people go to Fiebre early on Fridays (6-6:30 pm). I think Friday nights at Fiebre is one of their best nights. You can mix it up by going to Castillo and Troya a little later to check them out.
Viper10.[/QUOTE]
Last week I was looking up something on Google Maps and saw the Google Street View image pop up on my phone. That's pretty cool. Not only can I find an address and get directions, but I can see what the place looks like.
That got me thinking, so I decided to take a virtual driving tour around Santa Fe. Very informative and entertaining. Here are a few pictures the nice folks at Google took while mapping Bogota.
I'm in Bogota next week and want to know if anyone want to get hit some places in the weekdays. I've done this in other Colombian cities, just not in Bogota.
Hi all,
Thanks to all for the info and posts.
Newbies need to do 2 things.
1) RTFF (which means. Read The F*g Forum).
2) Become a paid member. 20 bucks isn't a lot. And IMHO spend the 20 bucks and it could potentially save you hundreds of dollars as you will have access to the expert advice of the senior members via PM (private messaging).
Anyways, I'll be in Bogota this Friday till Tuesday. Ill be staying at a 5 star hotel.
Anyone around?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1884492]That got me thinking, so I decided to take a virtual driving tour around Santa Fe. Very informative and entertaining. Here are a few pictures the nice folks at Google took while mapping Bogota.[/QUOTE]Ha, ha! Those pics look familiar. I've done the same a while back, be sure to select different dates in the Street View interface so you can see more images. Be careful though! Pics 3 & 4 are from the "tranny corner" and pic 6 is nearby in what I like to call "tranny alley" In fact, if you go back to the Street View, you'll see it says on the graffiti wall "red communitarian trans" which means community trans network. It's actually safe to walk through those areas, but I wouldn't linger there unless that's your sort of thing, LOL. By the way there is another tranny corner a short walk away closer to Carrera 14 because there's some kind of new "gender diversity center" that opened up there.
If you spend some time in street view, you'll notice there are corners or areas for dark-skinned girls and fat girls (and really young girls which you should steer clear from). I try to note spots where the prettier girls tend to congregate or work but I won't say anymore of this since this takes quite a bit of time and effort.
[QUOTE=Drexvilcl;1884883]I'm in Bogota next week and want to know if anyone want to get hit some places in the weekdays. I've done this in other Colombian cities, just not in Bogota.[/QUOTE]I'll be by the airport, will land tonight. Only here for the weekend.
I want to travel here but I am unsure how it works in this city. I am used to Germany FKK clubs. What is my best bet for a similar experience here?
Thanks guys.
Full report after trip.
[QUOTE=Global1810;1886936]I want to travel here but I am unsure how it works in this city. I am used to Germany FKK clubs. What is my best bet for a similar experience here?
Thanks guys.
Full report after trip.[/QUOTE]I may be wrong, but I don't think you will find anything in Bogota that is like a German FKK club. Bogota has strip clubs, casas, massage parlors, street walkers and escorts.
The major area for these attractions is Santa Fe, La Zona de Tolerancia. Santa Fe is a questionable neighborhood, especially after dark. Use some caution. There are other areas as well. If you check the Bogota Lists thread there's a map with many locations marked. If you check through this thread, there are quite a few reviews of many of the different spots.
If you don't speak any Spanish, Bogota may be frustrating. There aren't many English speakers. If you're looking for something to match the FKK clubs, you'll probably be disappointed. Finding comparable women is certainly possible, but the Bogota sex scene isn't exactly opulent. On the plus side, for the cost of the FKK club door fee, plus 30 minutes with 2 different girls, you can have 4 girls in Bogota, plus a nice hotel room for 2 nights and 4 good meals.
Spending one night in Bogota, will book a hotel by the airport. Any suggestions of guest-friendly hotels? PM me please. (While I found this question asked in the forum, I didn't find it answered publicly. Thus a request that may seem redundant to some.)
[QUOTE=CaptainMW;1887572]Spending one night in Bogota, will book a hotel by the airport. Any suggestions of guest-friendly hotels? PM me please. (While I found this question asked in the forum, I didn't find it answered publicly. Thus a request that may seem redundant to some.)[/QUOTE]I'd suggest not staying near the airport. If it's your first time in Bogota, stay in Zona Rosa or Parque 93. Numerous hotels. On a map, between Calles 82 and 100 ish. Call the specific hotel. Ask if you can speak to someone in English if you don't know Spanish and ask their guest policy. Ask again at check in. These are safe areas where you can walk or take a short taxi ride to the Chica clubs. Newbie26 should just be returning from his first trip, maybe he can shed some light on that question.
Enjoy!
[QUOTE=Global1810;1886936]I want to travel here but I am unsure how it works in this city. I am used to Germany FKK clubs. What is my best bet for a similar experience here?
Thanks guys.
Full report after trip.[/QUOTE]They don't have that kind of thing in Bogota -- Not organized anyway. Here it is just your typical cat houses.
IN Rio they have the Termas which may be more like the FKK clubs.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1882067]Hey,
Has anyone heard of Donde Juan Pa V. I. P. ? Is it the same as Juan Pablo's in Parque 93? Just saw a YouTube video of the place and it seemed to have some quality standards for the putas. Not sure if I can put a link here or not.[/QUOTE]Any info on the above?
I just got back from Bogota and because of time constraints couldn't go hit Santa Fe so it was much easier to use an escort agency.
I had a girl staying with me at night but since she has a regular job during the day I need something early and on time which can sometimes be a problem in Latin America.
I used [URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL].
([URL]niisha.com[/URL] is their sister agency).
I called them up the first morning around 930 am after my girl had left and I had breakfast and said I wanted someone to come over now. They had a few choices available at the moment and I choose "Luciana".
[URL]http://www.niisha.com/9/es-es/acompa%C3%B1antes/luciana.aspx[/URL]
She arrived about 1. 5 hours later and her body was a perfect little spinner body like depicted in her photos. It didn't look like a body that needed to be photoshopped at all. Her face was cute 7-8 range maybe and she was around 20 years old. Service was great, some LFK and even a quick BBBJ and we moved through several positions before I came. We then cleaned up and I paid her the 200 k pesos listed on her profile and she thanked me and was out the door. No harassing for tip or taxi money. Very professional but sweet.
I then called up immediately and ordered "Danna" for the next day. Sadly she is off the site for now and traveling in the US. She was recommended to me by the dude that speaks english that was at their office. He said she had nice face, sexy body and great personality. I have to agree with him on all 3. She showed up promptly at 930 am in a business suit. We talked for a few minutes to get started. The sex started out a little slow but got more passionate as the time went on. Paid her the 220 k listed on her profile and again no request for tip or taxi money and out she went.
Granted there are much better options in Bogota and cheaper too. But solitasparati is a solid agency that delivers on time performance.
Another vote of confidence for solitasparati. I called and asked them to send Ana Mile. She came a few minutes early, met me in the lobby and we went up to the room. She was great. A real spinner. Kept asking me what I wanted her to do. She indeed did everything I wanted to do, though she asked that I not come on her face. She took the agreed price happily and went on her way. Seems like a very professional operation that delivers what they promise. Sure, it costs a bit more, but you don't have to spend money on getting around or buying drinks. Five stars.
Be in MDE next week a few days (5) would a day trip to Bogota be recommended? Or stay a few nights in MDE and a couple in BOG? Any input appreciated.
[QUOTE=Sargent50;1898372]Be in MDE next week a few days (5) would a day trip to Bogota be recommended? Or stay a few nights in MDE and a couple in BOG? Any input appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you're only staying 5 days, just stick in MDE. Bogota isn't some place you can get much of a feel for with just a day trip. With only 5 days, why waste any time traveling back and forth?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1898474]If you're only staying 5 days, just stick in MDE. Bogota isn't some place you can get much of a feel for with just a day trip. With only 5 days, why waste any time traveling back and forth?[/QUOTE]Agree. Pick one or the other and stick with it.
Well the flight from Mde to BOG was only $45 one way and only took a hour so it was a thought. Didn't know if a day trip or couple days was sufficient. But thanks guess I'll stick with one or the other.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1898474]If you're only staying 5 days, just stick in MDE. Bogota isn't some place you can get much of a feel for with just a day trip. With only 5 days, why waste any time traveling back and forth?[/QUOTE]
Well, I turned 22 while in Bogota. And still a virgin.
Any recommendations / advise on how / where one should lose their virginity in Bogota?
Spanish is fairly decent, though not perfectly fluent.
[QUOTE=Illyid;1899131]Well, I turned 22 while in Bogota. And still a virgin.
Any recommendations / advise on how / where one should lose their virginity in Bogota?
Spanish is fairly decent, though not perfectly fluent.[/QUOTE]Honestly man, I would recommend you find a girl who likes you and has sex for fun. You are young, English speaker and you can communicate in Spanish. That makes you prime meat for most hot Colombianas. Work on your game, a little goes a long way in Colombia.
On the other hand, paying for sex is always a hit and miss affair. You have a good chance of getting with a girl who serves you mechanically, and if she has a bad attitude the experience could leave you scarred for life. I have never found a place where you have a 100% chance of a good time every time. It always depends on who's on duty. And most P4P places are not set up for vibing with a girl before you decide to have her. Admittedly, the chance of bad service is lower in Colombia than almost anywhere, but still, I would recommend a girl who's for real for the first time.
Talk to normal girls, invite her for anything fun (a walk, a drink, a concert etc.) and then take her back to your room and let nature take its course. Success may not happen on first attempt, but you will get there if you keep at it. Exercise makes you strong and this also applies to developing balls.
Not wanting to put much pressure on you, man, but you're laying the foundation here for your sex for the rest of your life, hehe.
Take it easy, go for it, and enjoy.
Dude,
You are 22 and able to have a conversation in Spanish? Get on Tinder and withing a day or two you will have enough girls interested in meeting you. Normal girls who will have sex with you just because they like you! You can fuck working girls when you are 60. That's never going to go away! Do yourself a favor and don't do P4P until you are much older!
[QUOTE=Arcangel;1899813]Honestly man, I would recommend you find a girl who likes you and has sex for fun. You are young, English speaker and you can communicate in Spanish. That makes you prime meat for most hot Colombianas. Work on your game, a little goes a long way in Colombia.
On the other hand, paying for sex is always a hit and miss affair. You have a good chance of getting with a girl who serves you mechanically, and if she has a bad attitude the experience could leave you scarred for life. I have never found a place where you have a 100% chance of a good time every time. It always depends on who's on duty. And most P4P places are not set up for vibing with a girl before you decide to have her. Admittedly, the chance of bad service is lower in Colombia than almost anywhere, but still, I would recommend a girl who's for real for the first time.
Talk to normal girls, invite her for anything fun (a walk, a drink, a concert etc.) and then take her back to your room and let nature take its course. Success may not happen on first attempt, but you will get there if you keep at it. Exercise makes you strong and this also applies to developing balls.
Not wanting to put much pressure on you, man, but you're laying the foundation here for your sex for the rest of your life, hehe.
Take it easy, go for it, and enjoy.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Illyid;1899131]Well, I turned 22 while in Bogota. And still a virgin.
Any recommendations / advise on how / where one should lose their virginity in Bogota?
Spanish is fairly decent, though not perfectly fluent.[/QUOTE]Just PM me when you are here. I'm living here and know tons of Colombianas interested in meeting young gringos.
[QUOTE=CaptainMW;1898150]Another vote of confidence for solitasparati. I called and asked them to send Ana Mile. She came a few minutes early, met me in the lobby and we went up to the room. She was great. A real spinner. Kept asking me what I wanted her to do. She indeed did everything I wanted to do, though she asked that I not come on her face. She took the agreed price happily and went on her way. Seems like a very professional operation that delivers what they promise. Sure, it costs a bit more, but you don't have to spend money on getting around or buying drinks. Five stars.[/QUOTE]Wondering if the 180 K price for her on website is for only 1 HR or more like 2 hrs?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1900985]Wondering if the 180 K price for her on website is for only 1 HR or more like 2 hrs?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]It varies by agency, but most of the posted rates are the minimum period. Some advertise 75 minutes, but I think most are 1 hour.
Hello guys,
I have been in Bogota for almost 15 days already, an afternoon I was in a restaurant in Zona Rosa north of the city, the next table was a such beautiful girl who was seeing me from that she arrive, she smiled me then I did the same, her table was so close the mine that she asked my name, I couldn't believe in Colombia Bogota girls were so friendly, that is not frequently in my country. After that we had a very nice afternoon talking she speaks basic English but I could understand her all, I couldn't stop to looking at her who was so sweet and beautiful, long black hair, sweet smile, something slanted eyes and very hot body! We was meeting for about one week without sex until finally we had it yesterday, it have been the best time I have had from I have been here, she is so hot, very good butt and thin, her movements when she was over me drove me crazy! Then we had a conversation and what was my surprise when she told me she works as a escort in a web internet as a second option of work because her first job is as a model in events, I didn't expect that or maybe I was a lucky Gringo LOL or I liked her to could had such wonderful time and sex.
For those new in the city and want to have real fun here she gave me the site where she is [URL]www.escortsmodelsvip.com[/URL] I totally recommend this girl.
Tell her a gringo friend of yours gave you her number. Tell her that you hear she is beautiful and you are looking for some fun.
Have fun and enjoy. She had a shaved beaver and loved getting oral. Her pink pussy in contrast with her clear skin was beautiful!
[QUOTE=TheGringo10;1904614]Hello guys,
I have been in Bogota for almost 15 days already, an afternoon I was in a restaurant in Zona Rosa north of the city, the next table was a such beautiful girl who was seeing me from that she arrive, she smiled me then I did the same, her table was so close the mine that she asked my name, I couldn't believe in Colombia Bogota girls were so friendly, that is not frequently in my country. After that we had a very nice afternoon talking she speaks basic English but I could understand her all, I couldn't stop to looking at her who was so sweet and beautiful, long black hair, sweet smile, something slanted eyes and very hot body! We was meeting for about one week without sex until finally we had it yesterday, it have been the best time I have had from I have been here, she is so hot, very good butt and thin, her movements when she was over me drove me crazy! Then we had a conversation and what was my surprise when she told me she works as a escort in a web internet as a second option of work because her first job is as a model in events, I didn't expect that or maybe I was a lucky Gringo LOL or I liked her to could had such wonderful time and sex.
For those new in the city and want to have real fun here she gave me the site where she is [URL]www.escortsmodelsvip.com[/URL] I totally recommend this girl.
Tell her a gringo friend of yours gave you her number. Tell her that you hear she is beautiful and you are looking for some fun.
Have fun and enjoy. She had a shaved beaver and loved getting oral. Her pink pussy in contrast with her clear skin was beautiful![/QUOTE]On a scale of 1 to 10, what are the chances that the first post on this forum from a newbie NOT associated in some kind of business relationship with this website is accurate?
[QUOTE=SkyRyder;1904734]On a scale of 1 to 10, what are the chances that the first post on this forum from a newbie NOT associated in some kind of business relationship with this website is accurate?[/QUOTE]What are the chances of any woman anywhere speaking to a guy first and asking his name? Besides that, no chick that is getting to know a guy is just going to come out and say she is an escort. And even besides that, no guy who has taken the time to get to know what he thought was a non-pro, then later finds out she is a prostitute, going to tell a bunch of strangers to go fuck this chick. Before anything he would be trying to talk her out of being an escort. Of course it is an advertisement.
Well, two options, this girl is very open mind or maybe she thought if she trust that she is an escort in someone who she knew one week ago she didn't have nothing to lose and maybe I could talk about her with my friends and make her advertising and of course I had to do it! She is delicious! Maybe is a girl with a dealer mind who doesn't matter confess that LOL I couldn't believe it neither, what a surprise! Good day guys!
Lucky guy.
Anyone have recommendations on a GF hotel in ZR nowadays? I'm thinking of the Royal hotels (Boheme Royal or Andino Royal). But haven't called to ask about the Chica policy yet. Should I book ahead or risk walking in for a room. It'll probably be 11:00 pm before I get there and I want to get right to the clubs to check out the talent. I'd prefer an apartment, but given the hour of arrival, for one night, that may not work. That and I'm not seeing anything in walking distance to the casas I like. Advice is appreciated.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1906730]Anyone have recommendations on a GF hotel in ZR nowadays? I'm thinking of the Royal hotels (Boheme Royal or Andino Royal). But haven't called to ask about the Chica policy yet. Should I book ahead or risk walking in for a room. It'll probably be 11:00 pm before I get there and I want to get right to the clubs to check out the talent. I'd prefer an apartment, but given the hour of arrival, for one night, that may not work. That and I'm not seeing anything in walking distance to the casas I like. Advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I've used Lloyds apartahotels 93. Very girl friendly, someday I had 4-5 up in total.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1906730]Anyone have recommendations on a GF hotel in ZR nowadays? I'm thinking of the Royal hotels (Boheme Royal or Andino Royal). But haven't called to ask about the Chica policy yet. Should I book ahead or risk walking in for a room. It'll probably be 11:00 pm before I get there and I want to get right to the clubs to check out the talent. I'd prefer an apartment, but given the hour of arrival, for one night, that may not work. That and I'm not seeing anything in walking distance to the casas I like. Advice is appreciated.[/QUOTE]I researched that a couple times, but I forgot most of the names because I just rent apartments there now. Use AIRBNB. There is one about a 2 blocks away from the Hard Rock, I stay there, and I stayed at a place near the Carulla 85 supermarket. I bring girls to those AIRBNB apartments many times, no questions asked. There is always security, but they don't ask about the girls.
I stayed at Hotel El Lago in a couple times. I never took a girl back there, but I specifically asked them if it was OK to bring a girl to the room and they said no problems at all. You might want to ask yourself to be sure. But they told me no problem.
I travel frequently to Bogota because I work in a company that consults with several organizations in the country. I wanted to try something new, instead of the usual, just work and drink and try to dance, I decided that I deserved to have an adventure. So I called several local agencies (solitas, amapola) but I don't speak Spanish, so it was hard. I found this agency, Elite Colombian Escorts, and they have this whatsapp service in which you can talk in English. So I send a message, and they send me several pictures of what they called the private catalog. Different types of girls and different levels. I decided to give a try, and I asked Luciana. I was somehow doubtful because the pictures looked too nice. But when she arrived was the girl in the pictures, a real model, 5-7, 20 something. Anyway. She came to my hotel and I fuck her, I felt like in a porn movie. Any way that's my story. Coming back to Colombia soon.
[QUOTE=UlisesTabares;1910469]I travel frequently to Bogota because I work in a company that consults with several organizations in the country. I wanted to try something new, instead of the usual, just work and drink and try to dance, I decided that I deserved to have an adventure. So I called several local agencies (solitas, amapola) but I don't speak Spanish, so it was hard. I found this agency, Elite Colombian Escorts, and they have this whatsapp service in which you can talk in English. So I send a message, and they send me several pictures of what they called the private catalog. Different types of girls and different levels. I decided to give a try, and I asked Luciana. I was somehow doubtful because the pictures looked too nice. But when she arrived was the girl in the pictures, a real model, 5-7, 20 something. Anyway. She came to my hotel and I fuck her, I felt like in a porn movie. Any way that's my story. Coming back to Colombia soon.[/QUOTE]Just curious why being able to talk in English is important to you? It's obvious from your post that English isn't your native language. If I had to guess, I would say Spanish is your native tongue.
Then there's the other question. Why would you come here to tell about one specific escort agency? Why didn't you come here and ask for advice first when you decided to try something new?
If you want someone to write convincing and authentic advertisements for your agency, just send me a PM. My rates are reasonable.
[B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.
I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!
Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.
- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.
- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.
- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.
- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.
- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.
- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.
- In terms of attitude, genuine passion and tenderness, Colombia comes first.
I used to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene to the other cities in Colombia, Medellin has the fame of the most beautiful girls in Colombia, but they are far too artificial with fake tits, boobs and low personality. The Medellin scene is also way smaller with way less options than the Bogota scene. The Cartagena scene is another option only for the beach, the safety and the touristic options available. When it comes to pure mongering, the scene is small, the girls are less beautiful, more expensive and spoiled due tourism.
[B]HOW TO GO[/B]
Most nationalities are allowed to stay 3 months without visa in Colombia with a possible 3 additional months. There is no mandatory vaccination except yellow fever if you intend to travel to the Amazone.
From Europe to Bogota, there are daily flights with Air France from Paris, KLM from Amsterdam, Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Iberia and Avianca from Barcelona and Madrid. This year 2 new airlines will start, Turkish Airlines but more interesting the low cost airline Air Europa.
From the Americas, Avianca, Copa, LAN will connect any Latin American country and the USA to Bogota as well as major Caribbean Islands. American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta have all direct flights to Bogota from the USA, as well as Air Canada from Canada, Aeromexico from Mexico, La Cubana from La Havana, Avior and Conviasa from Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas from Buenos Aires.
There are no direct flights between Colombia and Asia or Africa.
Don't forget to bring a coat even if Colombia is on the Equator, as Bogota is at 2600 m and temperature drops to 10see at night. Don't forget also to learn a bit of Spanish before to go, as most Colombians don't speak English.
[B]MONEY[/B]
The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300.
000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 400 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.
Minimum salary is 240 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.
[B]SAFETY AND HEALTH[/B]
For any emergency, call 123. Each neighborhood has a CAI, a local Police station.
Bogota has excellent private clinics as long as you can pay for it. If you have a health issue, I would recommend [URL]www.miclinicavip.com.co[/URL] CL. 97 #23-10,tel. (1) 7452727 as they are specialized in foreigner without local medical insurance.
Viagra and Cialis is available in any pharmacy without prescription.
Colombia used to be the most dangerous country in the world, but Pablo Escobar is dead, peace has been signed with the FARC, crimes and kidnaps have dropped drastically, Bogota being now in the average of South American cities of similar size, which is still high of course. Kidnap and crime is definitely not an issue anymore as long as you are not involved in politics and drugs.
Petty crime is the major issue nowadays. As soon as you arrive, put all your valuable belongings in a safe and keep only a photocopy of your passport and cash for the day. It's OK to walk in the street by night in the Norther Area (roughly between Calle 67 and Calle 153 between Autopista / Caracas and the mountains) but always use a taxi by night outside this area.
Foreign tourists are king in Colombia, police will never bother you as long as you are not involved in drugs of course. Crime is not targeting tourists and most Colombians will have a safe look on tourists in order that nothing will happen to them.
[B]WHERE TO STAY[/B]
Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly, there might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.
Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: [URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL], full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.
In order to avoid roaming cost and to allow the girls to contact you, best is to buy a local prepaid SIM card (Movistar or Claro) for 20 000 (or 90 000 including cellphone). Additional minutes can be bought at any Carulla or Exito store.
If you don't want to bring your girl at your own hotel room, this is a great love motel: [URL]www.amartesuite.com[/URL] Calle 62 #14-19. Actually there are dozens of love motel in the same block offering rooms with hourly.
Rate. Problem is that love motels respect privacy and will not ask for ID. For your own safety, don't bring a girl here from the street or from internet that has not been registered in a club or agency.
[B]LOCAL TRANSPORT[/B]
Local transport is a nightmare: traffic jams, overcrowded buses. If you are in Bogota just for a few days, easiest is to take the yellow taxis, a trip will cost you between 6000 and 12 000,20 000 for the airport.
If you start to get around, you can try the Transmilenio a bus system with stations as a metro system. A ticket is 2 000 and will bring you anywhere in the city.
I will not recommend to rent a car, it's expensive and traffic is too difficult even with a GPS. In addition you need to find every time a parking which will cost same as a taxi.
Directions are easy as streets and avenues have numbers. The mountain chain will indicate the east direction. From there, parallel to the mountain chain start the Carrera, 0 being the mountain chain, numbers increasing westward. The Calles start in the historic center, increasing going north. They increase also going south, with an additional S to indicate it's in the southern area of the city. A Diagonal is a Calle just that it's not exactly parallel to the others, and a Transversal is a Carrera that is not exactly parallel. Carrera 24 # 40-20 means that the direction is on Carrera 24 at 20 meters from intersection with Calle 40.
[B]ESCORTS[/B]
OK, you have just arrived in Bogota after a long flight, check-in at you hotel, shower, but it's already the evening and too lazy to go out. Easiest is to call an escort. Find hereafter the escort sites, all agencies:
[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/[/URL]
[URL]www.eroticservicesbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsbogota.com.co/[/URL]
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Can't really recommend anyone, as it all depends of the girl and I suspect most girls to be registered in several agencies, so it comes all to the same. Average price is 200 000 an hour. Needless to pay more, chances are the same girl will appear. Yes, you will rarely have the girl form the picture. It's not a rip off, but simply at the moment that you call, they have no idea who is available. Once you called, they will try to reach the girl and at the end send the girl they can contact. But don't worry, the girl will be as beautiful and as young as the picture and will give excellent GFE service including often DFK and BBBJ. Take care also to pay afterwards, not upfront.
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/[/URL] is an internet site with adds. You will find here some independent girls, but most adds will bring you back again to agencies. You will also find escorts advertising on Twitter and even through Tinder, but for your safety take care that she will go through a hotel desk where she needs to show ID.
[B]MASSAGE PARLORS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Next day, you slowly start to get around the hotel. There are several day options in Zona Norte, all massage parlors. They are all in safe and discrete locations without sign, 3-4 girls in a line up, prices between 40 000 and 150 000 for a massage, 80 000 up to 300 000 for a poor massage with fair sex including BJ, often on an uncomfortable massage table sometimes a bed. Payment is upfront. Most girls are beautiful but already with some mileage in my books, average age is 30-35 years. It's therefore not my favorite scene, but excellent if you are looking for a safe, relaxed and discrete scene. Anyway, entrance is free, so don't hesitate to visit several of them before making up your choice. Take out is usually not offered.
If you don't want to lose your time in visiting, just try my best recommendation: Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. It's a building with some stores at first level and a mezzanine above these stores. Just take the stairs to the mezzanine and you will find half a dozen of massage parlors with tinted windows and a number on the door. Most doors are half open with a girl at the entrance to invite you in. The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 40 000 for a massage and 80 000 for massage with sex. Each massage parlor has 3-4 young and above average girls, so plenty of choice.
The other massage parlors from North till South:
- [B]Abejitas[/B] Avenida Suba #103 b-73. [URL]http://www.abejitasmasajes.com/.[/URL] Open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, for sex 100 000/30 min and 180 000/60 min. 3-4 girls.
- [B]Princesita[/B] Av. Carrera 15 #116-59, Apt 202. Open every day except Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, 80 000 for massage with sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Loutron[/B] [URL]http://loutroncolombia.com/loutron-colombia.html[/URL] Carrera 11 A # 98-49. Open every day except Sunday from 12 am till 10 pm. It's by far the most upscale massage parlor. Great facilities, 4-5 girls make a line up as if they are top models on high heels and bikini. They are impressive at first sight, but at second look they have all fake boobs and too artificial for my taste. Pricing is 150 000 for massage and 300 000 for sex.
- [B]Absolut Spa [/B]Carrera 16 # 80-66.20 [URL]http://www.absolutspa.com[/URL] Open from 10 am till 8 pm every day except Saturday. Pricing 40 000 for massage, 80 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Colorin Spa [/B]Carrera 14 #79-70 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 9. 30 pm from Monday till Saturday, from 10 am till 5 pm on Sunday. Pricing 120 000/30 min and 160 000/60 min. 8 above girls.
-[B] Avispita[/B] Carrera 14 #79-62, at the second floor. [URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing 185 000 including sex. 2-3 above girls.
-[B] Apertua Via Spa[/B] Carrera 13 a # 79-71 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 10 pm. Pricing 180 000.2-3 above girls.
- [B]Sensity[/B] Calle 78 #13 a 20. Pricing is 180 000 including sex. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. From Monday till Saturday. 8 girls.
[B]EXCLUSIVE CLUBS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Night time, time for some more serious action! As you made a long trip to get here, you just are looking for the best that Bogota has to offer. Good news, the best clubs are in the Northern Area close to your hotel and each club is at walking distance of the next, although walking from the first south to the last north would be too far. They are the typical nightclubs rooms for sex. Also most have podiums with pole dance, there are seldom strip shows. Except Porky, the clubs have no signs, but obvious bouncers at the door indicate that there is a club. Here is where you will find the hottest girls in Bogota and of course also the most expensive. Average age between 20 and 30, very good looking and nicely dressed. There is usually a 150 000 fee for the club to go to the room or to leave the club with the girl, the rest is to negotiate directly with the girl, around 200 000 to 400 000 for a shorty and 300 to 600 000 for all night. For local standards, these prices are way over rated, but then again compared to what you would pay in USA or Europe for an escort, it's still a good deal as girls are very hot and service is excellent.
If you are just for a short trip to Colombia, an all nighter is definitely my recommendation as once back in Europe or USA it's virtually impossible to pay for making love all night with a young top model looking girl. What makes the service so good with all night? Well, first, the girl is not in her brothel territory but in your territory, she doesn't want to take the risk to deal with an unsatisfied customer while more vulnerable. Second, being out of the brothel environment, it helps both to forget that the relation is within a business agreement as Colombianas have a natural trend to be tender and sweet. Third, that night you will be her only client and sex partner, some nights she even has any client, she therefore will give the best of her. And last, payment is not upfront but when she leaves. That night she will be your girlfriend and risk is high to forget she is just a pro.
Only problem of these clubs apart from the high prices is the harassment of the crew to make you drink, you and the girl. Once you have ordered a bottle, pressure drops, but please check pricing before ordering. All these clubs have clear prices advertised, but prices are overrated at least for local standards. May be throwing big money in expensive clubs surrounded by beautiful girls is your idea of fun. I would.
Rather recommend to just take a glass, chose quickly a girl and get out of the club in order to keep the money for the sex.
There are no cover fees to get in these clubs; they are all in a walking distance from one another and in a safe area even at night. Most probably you will be spotted by some local dude that get a small commission to bring a customer to a club and that will bring you from one club to another. They will not really harass you, are not dangerous and at least will show you around all the existing clubs. These clubs start to open at 7 pm and close at 3 am every day.
Walking from South to North:
- [B]El Padrino[/B] Carrera 14 # 81-10. Tel. 320 425 7750. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/clubelpadrinointernacional/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. Impressive line-up, 40 very hot girls, no cover, pricing for the room or exit fee is 180 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Porkys [/B]Calle 83 #14 A-28. Tel 314 371 8000 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Porkys-Club...8361188396084/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. 40 very hot girls, no cover, exit fee 185 000, the girl will ask 200 000- 300 000 for a short time and 3000 000- 600 000 for all night. There are no rooms in the club, but the club has a hotel nearby at additional price. This club got some problems a while ago as employees ripped off clients with their credit card.
-[B] Lewinski [/B]Carrera 14 # 85-17. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This a smaller bar compared to the others. There are just half a dozen girls, but why not throw a look as entrance is free. There are no rooms inside and exit fee is 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]La Piscina del Norte [/B]Calle 86 A # 14-45, a black house easily to spot. Open daily from 7 pm till 3 am. Don't expect a swimming pool as you might fin dit in a FKK, it's just a decor pool. 30 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]VIP [/B]Calle 86 a # 14-57 next door of la Piscina del Norte, smaller and cheaper facilities. 15 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Red Garden[/B] Calle 86 A # 13 A-44. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. It's just lower class bar compared to the others, but it's just in front of the 2 former clubs, so why not have a look. There are just half a dozen girls way less beautiful than in the other clubs in the area. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 200 000- 400 000 for all night. Very few customers here, you can easily negotiate down the prices.
- [B]Lalo's:[/B] Cr 15 # 88-33. This is the most popular club, here you will find the best choice in term of looks and quantity. Impressive line-up, some 40 very sexy girls. It's also the most expensive one. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 165 000 for the room or for exit fee. Girls ask 200 000- 400 000 for a short time and 400 000- 800 000 for all night, as they have to pay daily 100 000 to the club.
- [B]Juan Pablo Zhivago [/B]Carrera18 and. 93 46. Open daily except Sunday from 7 pm till 3 am. Tel, 616 47 74. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago/.[/URL] This is my favorite club, as it's the only one that understands that clients don't want to be harassed by a crew of waiters in smoking. Therefore it's a popular club for Asian expats ready to spend money as long as it's in a safe and quiet environment. As it cutters to Asians, they have even Karaoke rooms, but no rooms for sex. No cover, no strip-tease shows, no one to harass you to sit on a table, to drink or to be with a girl. There are only 15 girls, but due to the quiet environment, it's here that you have most chance to find a truly occasional student just trying to pay her college. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Lido [/B]Carrera 14 # 95-33. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. This club disappeared from the radar when they built a building on the former location. The new location is just a block away from the historic one. Open daily from 6 pm till 6 am. High end and large facilities, 30 hot girls. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Punto G[/B] Carrera 15 #95-80. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. It's a new club, a block away from Lido. Just 10 girls, probably because they just start in the business, but the club has potential. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night.
-[B] Lancaster[/B] Carrera 15 #106-58. Tel 520 68 19 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/people/Lancaster-Paris/100008354311188.[/URL] This club also disappeared from the radar when they closed their location in Calle 90, but they opened again much Northern. Open from Monday till Saturday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 160 000 for take out or for the room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night. There are only 10 girls, not really worth the visit as it's also further away from the rest of the clubs.
- [B]OZ Club[/B] Calle 74#20-39 [URL]www.ozclub.com.co[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This one is not in the Northern Area anymore, but it's a high end club, at least regarding the pricing. At first I believed it was just a "barra why tanga" and that no sex was offered, but yes they do. 20 000 cover and for this you get a private strip show, although there are also public strip shows. The facilities are nice, but there are only 10 girls. Pricing for sex is to be negotiated with the girl, but expect 200 000 including the room. There is also take out, bar fine is 140 000 and the girl will probably ask 200 000 till 400 000 for all night.
[B]DAY BROTHELS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
After a night full of action, you start to get used to the city and are looking for a more local exotic scene than the high scale clubs catering for tourists and wealthier locals. You don't need to wait till the evening; there is a great day scene of small brothels in Chapinero at very low cost price. This scene is basically on Avenida Caracas between Calle 72 north and calle 53 south. On this 2 km long axis, there is a convenient Transmilenio. Chapinero is a popular neighbor with a lot of students and small businesses, quiet and safe during day time.
My good friend Zing23 did a great investigation job in this scene when he stayed a couple of months in Bogota and World Travel 69 did a great job as usual for updating his map.
All these brothels open daily between 9 am and 9 pm, a lot are closed on Sunday. Pricing? Hard to believe, but between 20 000 and 30 000, which means between 7 and 10 $! Ugly girls? Not at all! Most are young girl next door (well next door if you live in Colombia of course!) between 20 and 30 years old, working on daytime as working at night is always more difficult to explain to family. What is the counterpart of all that good news? There is no! A great scene for the mongerer looking for unlimited sex as cost is not an issue anymore.
I have listed the brothels from north to south as you can easily and safely walk from one brothel to another, visiting the neighborhood, hop from one pussy to another. The brothels have all the same type of facilities: a bar with cheap drinks, a line-up of half a dozen girls, no cover, no pressure to enter or to leave, rooms in the venue. Facilities are cheap but clean. There are usually no showers available however for the customer.
Hard to recommend specific place, as it all depends of the girl of course not of the brothel. If you take your time to visit the different places, you can find some real gems. The basic service includes total nude, BJ, multiple position sex. If you chose the option of additional time (30 min or 60 min instead of 20 min), you might expect more than just a quickie: BBBJ, DFK and GFE if there is some chemistry with the girl.
Take out is usually not offered and most girls will decline meetings in the evening as they have chosen this scene because they can't work during night time for personal reasons.
If I have to recommend one, it would be Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. It's also the only one that is open daily day and night, from 9 am till 3 am. It's also the one with most girls, between 10 and 15 on a shift. It is also one of the most expensive whatever it means: 30 000 pour 20 min, 40 000 pour 30 min. If you want to visit only one, it should be that one. Chicas 2000 is just in front, worth to visit also.
When walking from one brothel to another, you will start to recognize the houses that are brothels: no signs, no rooms, but an open door with a guard at the entrance. There are also a couple of dudes in the street that will spot you and hand you over ID cards with addresses of a brothels.
Find here after the list from North to South:
- [B]Tantra [/B]Carrera 20 #72-30. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Princing massage+sex 40 000/20 min 60 000/30 min. 80 000/ trio. 5 girls.
-[B] Alcazares [/B]Carrera 26 #71 B-61. Open from 9 am till 7 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 42 000/30 mn. 4 Girls.
- [B]Chicas Milenio[/B] Calle 71 #14 A-24. Open from 9 am till 2 am every day. Pricing 30 00/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Chicas 2000[/B]Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Bar La 70 [/B]Carrera 17 # 70 A-80 [URL]www.paradise-bogota.com[/URL] . Open daily from 8 am till 9 pm. Pricing 25 000/20 min 30 000/30 min. A great place to hang around, 8 girls.
- Calle 68 #17-85. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. Only 4 average girls.
- [B]Acuarius [/B]Carrera 19 #67-93. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 4 average girls.
- [B]Video Bar[/B] Carrera 19 # 67-47. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 3 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]La Bonita [/B]Carrera 15 #67-24. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 25 000/20 min and 30 000/30 min. 6 girls.
-[B] Tantra [/B]alle 67 # 15-10. Nice White House but with only 4 average girls. Open from 9 am till 8 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min.
-[B] Las Vegas Club[/B] Calle 67 # 16-23. Nice night Club facilities with rooms. Open from 9 pm till 9 pm every day. 10 girls.
-[B] Bar Las Divas[/B] Carrera 17 # 66-32. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- Carrera 17 # 66-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. 3 average girls and pricing is to be negotiated. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Bless Bar [/B]Carrera 15 #66-22. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Palmeras Real[/B] Carrera 15 # 66-17. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min, 32 000/30 min and 64 000/60 min. 10 young and nice girls.
- [B]La Mansion del Placer[/B] Carrera 16 #65-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 60/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 66 # 17-08. A new place Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min and 50 000/30 min. Only 2 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Lottus Bar [/B]Calle 65 # 13-61.
- [B]Gaticas[/B] Av. Caracas # 64-36. Open daily from 9 am till 11 pm, pricing is 30 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 65 000/60 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Bar Reservado "La 64" [/B]Calle 64 #15-30. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 64#15-18 Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]El Paraiso[/B]Carrera 15 # 63-26. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Palmira[/B]Calle 63 # 16 A-42. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min. 5 girls.
- [B]112 Masajes [/B]Calle 62 #13-31. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 60 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min. Just two average girls, not worth the price.
- [B]El Tercer Piso [/B]Calle 61 A # 13 A-39. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Sex on the Way [/B]Carrera 9 #57-76. Open daily from 10 am till 8 pm. Clean facilities and 9 girls, but way more expensive than the others. 60 000/20 min, 90 000/30 min and 120 000/60 min.
- [B]Lewinski Bar[/B] Calle 57 #9-35. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. Clean facilities, 6 girls.
- [B]Alisch Spa [/B]Carrera 17 # 53-36. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. There is sauna and Jacuzzi available. 4 girls.
[B]NIGHT CLUBS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
You are looking for a night brothel, don't want any more the high end clubs from the Northern Area with overrated prices, but don't want also to take risks in the infamous Zona de Tolerencia, here a great advice, there are 2 great night clubs in the Chapinero area: Pussy House and La 49. I always had very good experiences here, expect good service.
[B]Pussy House [/B]Calle 61 #13-64. Open from 5 pm till 2 am from Monday till Saturday. No cover. The neighborhood looks unsafe, no sign, but everything looks better once inside. The first floor is a stripclub with pole dance, bar, you shaped sofas. The second floor is a nightclub where couple dance on salsa music. Rooms are in the third and fourth floor. There are 30 to 50 girls between 20 and 30 years old. No cover, cheap drinks, 120 000 for an exit fee but most go to the room, pricing is 70 000/30 min. A private strip dance is 40 000. As drinks are cheap, you can stay here, drink and have fun all night, no need to worry for the final bill. It's a popular club and there are a lot of clients on Friday and Saturday.
There are a few low level night clubs in the area taking advantage of the popularity of Pussy House.
- [B]Las Divas [/B]Calle 61 # 13-81, just in front of Pussy House. Open daily from 1 pm till 2 am. A strip club with some rougher atmosphere. No cover. There are some 20 average girls here, not at the level of Pussy house.
- [B]Salome [/B]Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
- [B]Nueva Pasarela [/B]Calle 64 # 13-73. Open daily except Sunday from 5 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
-[B] Innova Pasarela[/B] Calle 62 #13-46. More a night club than a day brothel, open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 5 girls.
- Calle 62 #13-46. Open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
[B]La Forty Nine (La 49)[/B] Carrera 13 # 49-77 tel. +57 tel. (1) 2888773 [URL]http://fortynineclub.com/.[/URL] It's a monument in Bogota, with its kitsch facilities easy to recognize on Carrera 13, several movies have been shot here. It has better facilities than Pussy House and is also more expensive. Night club with pole dance and strip shows in the main floor, restaurant and rooms in the basement, mezzanine with a great view on the entire club and more rooms on the second floor. No cover. There are 30 girls between 20 and 30 years old. As prices are higher than Pussy House, there are less customers: 120 000/30 min in the room. It's still a great option compared to the more expensive northern clubs or the less safer clubs in Zona de Tolerencia.
Again here there are a couple of clubs in the neighborhood taking advantage of the notoriety of la 49. The most obvious is the next door club, as you might easily enter the wrong door. But once inside, it's obvious that it's not the notorious 49: poor facilities and just a couple of average girls. Other low level nightbars:
- Calle 49 # 13-70. Open from Monday till Saturday from 1 pm till 2 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- Calle 49 #13-98. Open from 10 am till 3 pm from Monday till Wednesday, from 9 am till 5 pm from Thursday till Saturday. No cover, strip show. 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]STREET ACTION IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
OK, you start to feel more comfortable with the Bogota scene, you are now ready for the infamous Zona de Tolerencia. It's not my favorite scene, but then again, it's not to be missed for a punter visiting Bogota as nowhere else in Colombia you will find so many sex workers per square meter.
Main problem of the zona de Tolerencia is that everything is tolerated, not only prostitution. There are some real creepy dudes here. It's always busy, there is always police in the area, it's not that you risk your live. But pickpockets, drunk dudes, a trans that start a scandal, claiming money for a blowjob he never gave. Enough possible experiences that might ruin your stay.
My advice would be to visit the area first during daytime and get used to the area. By night, don't walk outside the main block where there is police presence and bouncers. If you are drunk, you should definitely not walk outside, do everything with a taxi. Best would be anyway not to drink and have a wingman by night.
On daytime, you can easily take the Transmilenio and get out at station Calle 22. You will notice the building of La Piscina, Zona de Tolerencia is behind that building: Carrera 15,16 why 16 A between Calle 23 and 24.
Street action starts at 9 am and ends at 3 am. At peek time, there are probably 200 girls waiting in front of the numerous motels. Typical motels are Doll House, Las Vegas, El Encanto, Pasada Nare, Manizales.
There are also numerous smaller bars where girls hang out for a short time in the nearby motel.
Pricing is 20 000 till 30 000 plus 7 000 for the room. As the girls are waiting in front of motels or inside bars, you might easily mistake it for a brothel or a club. There is a huge difference however, the girls are not working for the motels or the bars, don't decline ID to them unlike what is happening in brothels and clubs. Therefore, robbing, rip off or simply bad service is much more likely with street action. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, some good looking. To be honest, I can't report about the service, but don't expect more than mechanic and unhygienic sex. I therefore won't advice this scene, as you can get much better service in a much safer environment for the same cost in the numerous day brothels of Chapinero.
There is also street action in the peripheral area of Zona de Tolerencia. Needless to say, don't walk in this area by night. South of the Zona de Tolerencia, which means between calle 23 and calle 19 is the TV and other monsters area. Be very careful here!
On the other side of Caracas, there is another street action area, on Carrera 13 why Carrera 13 A between Calle 24 and Calle 18. This is the area of the ugly old women. They usually wait in front of a house or a building's door. If this is your way of having fun, pricing are as low as 20 000. Again, I can't and don't want to report about quality of service.
[B]CLUBS IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
Apart from street action, the Zona de Tolerencia has the highest density of brothels and clubs of Bogota, you can literally have sex 24 hours a day 7 days a week, therefore it is very popular. It's not my favorite scene, girls who work here are hard core pro's. It's not exactly the place where you might find your shy innocent student working occasionally here to pay her bills. But then again, it's maybe not what you are looking for. If you are looking for your hot and nasty "bomba Latina" with fake boobs giving great PSE, here is the place to be. Average age between 20 and 30 years old.
The next issue is safety. Again, I would recommend to visit it first during day time. On night time, watch your back. Having said this, the clubs inside are safe, so it's perfectly safe to come and go with taxi and enter directly in any of the clubs. All clubs have rooms but there is also the option to go out for all night for 200 000 up to 400 000. I would however not suggest to come and look for your princess of the night in la Zona de Tolerencia, There are day clubs, nightclubs and even clubs that start after midnight when most clubs close till next morning when the first clubs open again.
The landmark is the famous [B]La Piscina[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/La-Piscina-...4720090119266/[/URL] Carrera 15 # 23-64, no cover. Open daily from 1 pm till 3 am. As it is on Caracas, you can actually access the club without even entering the Zona de Tolerencia. They have a private and safe parking lot. This is the most famous brothel of Colombia, several movies have been shot here. The swimming pool is a nice deco, but is not for using as. Nice and calm place with strip shows around the swimming pool and rooms upstairs. Nice girls also but usually the quantity is a bit disappointing, usually a dozen. Pricing is more than the other clubs, 120 000/30 min. You can actually exit on both side of the club, which is to say Caracas and Carrera 15, which is directly in the Zona de Tolerencia.
The best brothel of the Zona de Tolerencia however by far is [B]El Castillo[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/ElCatilloVipClub/[/URL] Calle 23 # 14-19. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am, no cover. You can't miss this club, with a huge kitsch sign, at the entrance of the Zona de Tolerencia, La Piscina being on the left side and el Castillo on the right side. Great facilities, impressive deco, a huge strip club on the main floor and nice rooms upstairs. Here there are up to 40 very hot girls, most with fake boobs however. It's also by far the most expensive of the Zona de Tolerencia, 150 000/30 min. The only downside of this place is the pushy staff in smoking similar on what happens in the high end clubs of Zona Norte. Drinks are pricey also here by the way, so check price list. Bust is to order a bottle and get rid of the pushy staff for the rest of the night and enjoy this place with impressive girls.
All other clubs are in a similar pricing range, 60 000/30 min, no cover. Most clubs have obvious signs and strip shows here the list of clubs in the order of the walking path to visit Zona de Tolerencia, starting from the entrance between la Piscina and El Castillo.
- [B]California Night Club [/B]Calle 23 #15-22. Open from Thursday till Saturday between 2 am and 10 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- Calle 23 # 16-02. Open daily between 3 pm and 2 am. A club on the corner. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B] Punto de Oro [/B]Carrera 16 #23-01, on the other corner. Open daily between 10 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
Here, turn right into Calle 16 A, the busiest street of Zona de Tolerencia secured and closed to traffic by night with police presence and bouncers.
- [B]Atunes[/B] Carrera 16 A # 23-19. This is the temporary location of Atunes, as the historical one on Carrera 16 a # 23-88 has been closed by authorities. As Atunes did a great job on the deco, there is even a huge aquarium, it looks like this temporary location might be for long term. Open daily between 10 a m and 10 am. No cover, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's probably the most popular brothel after El Castillo. It's also not so noisy and dark as the other clubs, a nice place to have a bear and relax.
- [B]Eclipse [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-32. It's one of the 4 after hour clubs. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Venus [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-43. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Fiebre Sex [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-50. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Fiebre-Sex-846028748743688/.[/URL] Open daily between 1 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Las Paisas [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-58. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paisas-Club/187764624697832.[/URL] Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Apollo [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-59. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B]Guau Night Club [/B]Carrera 16 A # 69. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]La Casona [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-76. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Kiss[/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-89. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Atonys [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-88. Open daily between 12 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room. Actually it's the historic location of Atunes, started under new management.
Turn right on Calle 23 and again right on Carrera 16.
-[B]Troya [/B]Carrera 16 # 23-89. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Troya-Night-CLUB-343205905774849/.[/URL] Open daily between 2 pm and 3 pm. No cover, strip shows, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. One of the better clubs, on Friday and Saturday it's packed and there is a cover fee of 10 000 to limit the customers. Actually it has also an entrance on Carrera 16 A where there is a parking.
- [B]Lion [/B]Carrera 16 #23-51. Open daily between 3 pm and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's a new club, it has potential to grow.
Around the Zona de Tolerencia, on the other side of the Transmilenio, there are a couple of other brothels just for the record. It's OK to visit on day time, on night I would not recommend this area. Anyway, they are also not worth it:
- Carrera 10 # 19-38. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/30 min in the room. 10 girls.
- Cara Show Carrera 8 #19-31 Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. No cover, strip show. Pricing si 40 000/30 min. 10 girls.
[B]CLUBS IN PRIMER DE MAYO[/B]
Although it's the second most important prostitution area of Bogota after the Zona de Tolerencia, no one had ever reported this scene on ISG until why accidentally discovered it when visiting a swinger club in the area. As usual, World Travel 69 did a great investigation job to update his map will all the brothels of this area.
Truth is that Primer de Mayo is far south of the city, but it's also the most important rumba area of Bogota after Zona T. The area however is way not as safe as Zona T as we are in the south of the city. Watch your back here, even if the area is busy on night time due to the numerous regular night clubs, casinos and bars.
All these brothels are strip clubs with obvious signs. However, the scene is confusing as it's not easy to make the difference between a brothel, a strip club without sex (called "barra why tanga' such as Midas, barra la you, Barra la Tanga, Tantalos, Tanga why Aroma, Faraonas). A regular disco and a gay club.
The scene is along Avenida Prime de Mayo between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali. A Milestone is the Mac Donald. Stay on the side of the Mac Donald, as on the other side of the boulevard is the gay sector and some can be aggressive.
Would I recommend it? Well, it's not my favorite scene, but if you like Zona de Tolerencia, you will like Primer de Mayo. The atmosphere in this neighborhood is different, there is no street action and day action but once in the clubs, facilities, girls and service are similar to Zona de Tolerencia, Angelos being the Castillo and Guadalajara being the Troya of Primer de Mayo. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, from average to nice. Service is mechanical, BBBJ and DFK are not included.
Starting from Carrera 68 to Avenida de Cali:
- [B]Los Angeles VIP [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #68 I-21, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. It's an upscale stripclub, no cover, open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. If facilities are great, there are only 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pasarela Show [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-28. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Coliseo Romano [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-30. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Fiebre [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-42. Open daily from 5 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show. 10 girls, pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Castle Blue [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-46. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Guadalajara [/B]Av 1 de Mayo #69 B-53, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strips show. One of the best, 20 girls. Pricing is 70 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pereira[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-16. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Angelos [/B][URL]http://www.angelos.com.co/[/URL] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-20. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow. The most upscale club in the area with impressive facilities. However just 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min.
- [B]Septimo Cielo [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-28. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Azafatas[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-58. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Moroco [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-69. On the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. No sign, just a door with stairs to the first floor. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Happy Night [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-68. Open daily from 8 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]THE SWINGER SCENE[/B]
I lost interest in the mongering scene as paying for sex seems ridiculous when living in Colombia. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, and discovered the swinger scene of Bogota. The great thing about the swinger scene is that you have sex with women that really enjoy sex and don't do it just for the money.
I know most punters are not interested in swinging. But give it a try, instead of bringing your pro to a motel, go with her to a swinger club. You will not have sex only with her, but also with other women. Swinger clubs that are open to single men will usually throw a couple of single pro in the crowd so that sex is guaranteed even for single men. You should not be shy however for having sex in public, as the rooms are always open.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their clothes on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Fun for Colombians means not just sex, it means socializing together, making jokes, dancing and drinking. Atmosphere is therefore way better than in European swing clubs where people just fuck silently and I would say sadly.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
- [B]Spa SW[/B] [URL]http://swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted. The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed. Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most. The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals. The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
-[B]Interspa[/B] [URL]www.intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted. It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
- [B]Europeo[/B] [URL]www.europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks. Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty. But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to fuck the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with water guns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
- [B]Zafiro[/B] [URL]www.zafirosclub-sw.com[/URL] Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open every day from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open every day also for single men. It's by far the biggest swing club, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
- [B]Monastery[/B] Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closest Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened with a new management. It is simply my preferred place to go with my novia, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.
- [B]Theli y Luna [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69 02 [URL]https://twitter.com/theliyluna>[/URL] Open from Thursday till Saurday from 8. 30 pm till 2. 30 am. It's a black door right next the Mac Donald. Entrance is 70 000, facilities not at the level of the swingers club of Zona Norte of course. The atmosphere is very relaxed, 3 average working girls do their best that everybody socialize with everybody. It's a bit like a German partytreff more than a swinger club. Few other couple, most guests are single men fucking for free the working girls. Fucking 3 girls including the drinks for just 70 000, hard to find cheaper! The sex is very disappointing however, a quick mechanical fuck on street action level. Worth the unique experience however.
- [B]Piscina Normandie [/B]Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] Last, but not least, here is the best kept secret of Bogota. It's a regular swimming pool during the week end but a swinger club from Monday till Wednesday from 3 pm till 10 pm. I guess the mothers would be horrified to learn what is happening during the weekdays in that swimming pool where their children swim!
Monday 60 000 for couples or single men, Tuesday 60 00 for couples and 99 for single men, but sex guaranteed as there are working girls and Wednesday only couples for 69 000. Indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna, nice facilities. But best is the atmosphere, as Viviana does her best that everybody socializes together. She has each time new ideas: a colored wristband to indicate availability of the women: red is no, yellow is maybe and green open to anything! All the women together giving soap massage to each man, amazing so many female hands touching your body! Sometimes she organizes a unique event: inverse gang bang! A team of 6 girls gang banging each single man, a once in a lifetime experience!
Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff.
Just about all the answers are right here. Very thorough and informative report Routard. Thank you.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia.[/QUOTE]
Great report.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.
I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!
Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.
- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.
- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.
- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.
- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.
- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.
- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.
- In terms of attitude, genuine passion and tenderness, Colombia comes first.
I used to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene to the other cities in Colombia, Medellin has the fame of the most beautiful girls in Colombia, but they are far too artificial with fake tits, boobs and low personality. The Medellin scene is also way smaller with way less options than the Bogota scene. The Cartagena scene is another option only for the beach, the safety and the touristic options available. When it comes to pure mongering, the scene is small, the girls are less beautiful, more expensive and spoiled due tourism.
[B]HOW TO GO[/B]
Most nationalities are allowed to stay 3 months without visa in Colombia with a possible 3 additional months. There is no mandatory vaccination except yellow fever if you intend to travel to the Amazone.
From Europe to Bogota, there are daily flights with Air France from Paris, KLM from Amsterdam, Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Iberia and Avianca from Barcelona and Madrid. This year 2 new airlines will start, Turkish Airlines but more interesting the low cost airline Air Europa.
From the Americas, Avianca, Copa, LAN will connect any Latin American country and the USA to Bogota as well as major Caribbean Islands. American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta have all direct flights to Bogota from the USA, as well as Air Canada from Canada, Aeromexico from Mexico, La Cubana from La Havana, Avior and Conviasa from Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas from Buenos Aires.
There are no direct flights between Colombia and Asia or Africa.
Don't forget to bring a coat even if Colombia is on the Equator, as Bogota is at 2600 m and temperature drops to 10see at night. Don't forget also to learn a bit of Spanish before to go, as most Colombians don't speak English.
[B]MONEY[/B]
The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300.
000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 400 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.
Minimum salary is 240 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.
[B]SAFETY AND HEALTH[/B]
For any emergency, call 123. Each neighborhood has a CAI, a local Police station.
Bogota has excellent private clinics as long as you can pay for it. If you have a health issue, I would recommend [URL]www.miclinicavip.com.co[/URL] CL. 97 #23-10,tel. (1) 7452727 as they are specialized in foreigner without local medical insurance.
Viagra and Cialis is available in any pharmacy without prescription.
Colombia used to be the most dangerous country in the world, but Pablo Escobar is dead, peace has been signed with the FARC, crimes and kidnaps have dropped drastically, Bogota being now in the average of South American cities of similar size, which is still high of course. Kidnap and crime is definitely not an issue anymore as long as you are not involved in politics and drugs.
Petty crime is the major issue nowadays. As soon as you arrive, put all your valuable belongings in a safe and keep only a photocopy of your passport and cash for the day. It's OK to walk in the street by night in the Norther Area (roughly between Calle 67 and Calle 153 between Autopista / Caracas and the mountains) but always use a taxi by night outside this area.
Foreign tourists are king in Colombia, police will never bother you as long as you are not involved in drugs of course. Crime is not targeting tourists and most Colombians will have a safe look on tourists in order that nothing will happen to them.
[B]WHERE TO STAY[/B]
Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly, there might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.
Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: [URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL], full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.
In order to avoid roaming cost and to allow the girls to contact you, best is to buy a local prepaid SIM card (Movistar or Claro) for 20 000 (or 90 000 including cellphone). Additional minutes can be bought at any Carulla or Exito store.
If you don't want to bring your girl at your own hotel room, this is a great love motel: [URL]www.amartesuite.com[/URL] Calle 62 #14-19. Actually there are dozens of love motel in the same block offering rooms with hourly.
Rate. Problem is that love motels respect privacy and will not ask for ID. For your own safety, don't bring a girl here from the street or from internet that has not been registered in a club or agency.
[B]LOCAL TRANSPORT[/B]
Local transport is a nightmare: traffic jams, overcrowded buses. If you are in Bogota just for a few days, easiest is to take the yellow taxis, a trip will cost you between 6000 and 12 000,20 000 for the airport.
If you start to get around, you can try the Transmilenio a bus system with stations as a metro system. A ticket is 2 000 and will bring you anywhere in the city.
I will not recommend to rent a car, it's expensive and traffic is too difficult even with a GPS. In addition you need to find every time a parking which will cost same as a taxi.
Directions are easy as streets and avenues have numbers. The mountain chain will indicate the east direction. From there, parallel to the mountain chain start the Carrera, 0 being the mountain chain, numbers increasing westward. The Calles start in the historic center, increasing going north. They increase also going south, with an additional S to indicate it's in the southern area of the city. A Diagonal is a Calle just that it's not exactly parallel to the others, and a Transversal is a Carrera that is not exactly parallel. Carrera 24 # 40-20 means that the direction is on Carrera 24 at 20 meters from intersection with Calle 40.
[B]ESCORTS[/B]
OK, you have just arrived in Bogota after a long flight, check-in at you hotel, shower, but it's already the evening and too lazy to go out. Easiest is to call an escort. Find hereafter the escort sites, all agencies:
[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/[/URL]
[URL]www.eroticservicesbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsbogota.com.co/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.angeleslatinasescort.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amadax.co[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagosbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]www.class-models.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.mujeresbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-bogota-escorts-vip[/URL]
Can't really recommend anyone, as it all depends of the girl and I suspect most girls to be registered in several agencies, so it comes all to the same. Average price is 200 000 an hour. Needless to pay more, chances are the same girl will appear. Yes, you will rarely have the girl form the picture. It's not a rip off, but simply at the moment that you call, they have no idea who is available. Once you called, they will try to reach the girl and at the end send the girl they can contact. But don't worry, the girl will be as beautiful and as young as the picture and will give excellent GFE service including often DFK and BBBJ. Take care also to pay afterwards, not upfront.
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/[/URL] is an internet site with adds. You will find here some independent girls, but most adds will bring you back again to agencies. You will also find escorts advertising on Twitter and even through Tinder, but for your safety take care that she will go through a hotel desk where she needs to show ID.
[B]MASSAGE PARLORS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Next day, you slowly start to get around the hotel. There are several day options in Zona Norte, all massage parlors. They are all in safe and discrete locations without sign, 3-4 girls in a line up, prices between 40 000 and 150 000 for a massage, 80 000 up to 300 000 for a poor massage with fair sex including BJ, often on an uncomfortable massage table sometimes a bed. Payment is upfront. Most girls are beautiful but already with some mileage in my books, average age is 30-35 years. It's therefore not my favorite scene, but excellent if you are looking for a safe, relaxed and discrete scene. Anyway, entrance is free, so don't hesitate to visit several of them before making up your choice. Take out is usually not offered.
If you don't want to lose your time in visiting, just try my best recommendation: Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. It's a building with some stores at first level and a mezzanine above these stores. Just take the stairs to the mezzanine and you will find half a dozen of massage parlors with tinted windows and a number on the door. Most doors are half open with a girl at the entrance to invite you in. The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 40 000 for a massage and 80 000 for massage with sex. Each massage parlor has 3-4 young and above average girls, so plenty of choice.
The other massage parlors from North till South:
- [B]Abejitas[/B] Avenida Suba #103 b-73. [URL]http://www.abejitasmasajes.com/.[/URL] Open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, for sex 100 000/30 min and 180 000/60 min. 3-4 girls.
- [B]Princesita[/B] Av. Carrera 15 #116-59, Apt 202. Open every day except Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, 80 000 for massage with sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Loutron[/B] [URL]http://loutroncolombia.com/loutron-colombia.html[/URL] Carrera 11 A # 98-49. Open every day except Sunday from 12 am till 10 pm. It's by far the most upscale massage parlor. Great facilities, 4-5 girls make a line up as if they are top models on high heels and bikini. They are impressive at first sight, but at second look they have all fake boobs and too artificial for my taste. Pricing is 150 000 for massage and 300 000 for sex.
- [B]Absolut Spa [/B]Carrera 16 # 80-66.20 [URL]http://www.absolutspa.com[/URL] Open from 10 am till 8 pm every day except Saturday. Pricing 40 000 for massage, 80 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Colorin Spa [/B]Carrera 14 #79-70 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 9. 30 pm from Monday till Saturday, from 10 am till 5 pm on Sunday. Pricing 120 000/30 min and 160 000/60 min. 8 above girls.
-[B] Avispita[/B] Carrera 14 #79-62, at the second floor. [URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing 185 000 including sex. 2-3 above girls.
-[B] Apertua Via Spa[/B] Carrera 13 a # 79-71 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 10 pm. Pricing 180 000.2-3 above girls.
- [B]Sensity[/B] Calle 78 #13 a 20. Pricing is 180 000 including sex. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. From Monday till Saturday. 8 girls.
[B]EXCLUSIVE CLUBS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Night time, time for some more serious action! As you made a long trip to get here, you just are looking for the best that Bogota has to offer. Good news, the best clubs are in the Northern Area close to your hotel and each club is at walking distance of the next, although walking from the first south to the last north would be too far. They are the typical nightclubs rooms for sex. Also most have podiums with pole dance, there are seldom strip shows. Except Porky, the clubs have no signs, but obvious bouncers at the door indicate that there is a club. Here is where you will find the hottest girls in Bogota and of course also the most expensive. Average age between 20 and 30, very good looking and nicely dressed. There is usually a 150 000 fee for the club to go to the room or to leave the club with the girl, the rest is to negotiate directly with the girl, around 200 000 to 400 000 for a shorty and 300 to 600 000 for all night. For local standards, these prices are way over rated, but then again compared to what you would pay in USA or Europe for an escort, it's still a good deal as girls are very hot and service is excellent.
If you are just for a short trip to Colombia, an all nighter is definitely my recommendation as once back in Europe or USA it's virtually impossible to pay for making love all night with a young top model looking girl. What makes the service so good with all night? Well, first, the girl is not in her brothel territory but in your territory, she doesn't want to take the risk to deal with an unsatisfied customer while more vulnerable. Second, being out of the brothel environment, it helps both to forget that the relation is within a business agreement as Colombianas have a natural trend to be tender and sweet. Third, that night you will be her only client and sex partner, some nights she even has any client, she therefore will give the best of her. And last, payment is not upfront but when she leaves. That night she will be your girlfriend and risk is high to forget she is just a pro.
Only problem of these clubs apart from the high prices is the harassment of the crew to make you drink, you and the girl. Once you have ordered a bottle, pressure drops, but please check pricing before ordering. All these clubs have clear prices advertised, but prices are overrated at least for local standards. May be throwing big money in expensive clubs surrounded by beautiful girls is your idea of fun. I would.
Rather recommend to just take a glass, chose quickly a girl and get out of the club in order to keep the money for the sex.
There are no cover fees to get in these clubs; they are all in a walking distance from one another and in a safe area even at night. Most probably you will be spotted by some local dude that get a small commission to bring a customer to a club and that will bring you from one club to another. They will not really harass you, are not dangerous and at least will show you around all the existing clubs. These clubs start to open at 7 pm and close at 3 am every day.
Walking from South to North:
- [B]El Padrino[/B] Carrera 14 # 81-10. Tel. 320 425 7750. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/clubelpadrinointernacional/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. Impressive line-up, 40 very hot girls, no cover, pricing for the room or exit fee is 180 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Porkys [/B]Calle 83 #14 A-28. Tel 314 371 8000 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Porkys-Club...8361188396084/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. 40 very hot girls, no cover, exit fee 185 000, the girl will ask 200 000- 300 000 for a short time and 3000 000- 600 000 for all night. There are no rooms in the club, but the club has a hotel nearby at additional price. This club got some problems a while ago as employees ripped off clients with their credit card.
-[B] Lewinski [/B]Carrera 14 # 85-17. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This a smaller bar compared to the others. There are just half a dozen girls, but why not throw a look as entrance is free. There are no rooms inside and exit fee is 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]La Piscina del Norte [/B]Calle 86 A # 14-45, a black house easily to spot. Open daily from 7 pm till 3 am. Don't expect a swimming pool as you might fin dit in a FKK, it's just a decor pool. 30 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]VIP [/B]Calle 86 a # 14-57 next door of la Piscina del Norte, smaller and cheaper facilities. 15 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Red Garden[/B] Calle 86 A # 13 A-44. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. It's just lower class bar compared to the others, but it's just in front of the 2 former clubs, so why not have a look. There are just half a dozen girls way less beautiful than in the other clubs in the area. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 200 000- 400 000 for all night. Very few customers here, you can easily negotiate down the prices.
- [B]Lalo's:[/B] Cr 15 # 88-33. This is the most popular club, here you will find the best choice in term of looks and quantity. Impressive line-up, some 40 very sexy girls. It's also the most expensive one. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 165 000 for the room or for exit fee. Girls ask 200 000- 400 000 for a short time and 400 000- 800 000 for all night, as they have to pay daily 100 000 to the club.
- [B]Juan Pablo Zhivago [/B]Carrera18 and. 93 46. Open daily except Sunday from 7 pm till 3 am. Tel, 616 47 74. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago/.[/URL] This is my favorite club, as it's the only one that understands that clients don't want to be harassed by a crew of waiters in smoking. Therefore it's a popular club for Asian expats ready to spend money as long as it's in a safe and quiet environment. As it cutters to Asians, they have even Karaoke rooms, but no rooms for sex. No cover, no strip-tease shows, no one to harass you to sit on a table, to drink or to be with a girl. There are only 15 girls, but due to the quiet environment, it's here that you have most chance to find a truly occasional student just trying to pay her college. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Lido [/B]Carrera 14 # 95-33. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. This club disappeared from the radar when they built a building on the former location. The new location is just a block away from the historic one. Open daily from 6 pm till 6 am. High end and large facilities, 30 hot girls. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Punto G[/B] Carrera 15 #95-80. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. It's a new club, a block away from Lido. Just 10 girls, probably because they just start in the business, but the club has potential. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night.
-[B] Lancaster[/B] Carrera 15 #106-58. Tel 520 68 19 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/people/Lancaster-Paris/100008354311188.[/URL] This club also disappeared from the radar when they closed their location in Calle 90, but they opened again much Northern. Open from Monday till Saturday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 160 000 for take out or for the room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night. There are only 10 girls, not really worth the visit as it's also further away from the rest of the clubs.
- [B]OZ Club[/B] Calle 74#20-39 [URL]www.ozclub.com.co[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This one is not in the Northern Area anymore, but it's a high end club, at least regarding the pricing. At first I believed it was just a "barra why tanga" and that no sex was offered, but yes they do. 20 000 cover and for this you get a private strip show, although there are also public strip shows. The facilities are nice, but there are only 10 girls. Pricing for sex is to be negotiated with the girl, but expect 200 000 including the room. There is also take out, bar fine is 140 000 and the girl will probably ask 200 000 till 400 000 for all night.
[B]DAY BROTHELS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
After a night full of action, you start to get used to the city and are looking for a more local exotic scene than the high scale clubs catering for tourists and wealthier locals. You don't need to wait till the evening; there is a great day scene of small brothels in Chapinero at very low cost price. This scene is basically on Avenida Caracas between Calle 72 north and calle 53 south. On this 2 km long axis, there is a convenient Transmilenio. Chapinero is a popular neighbor with a lot of students and small businesses, quiet and safe during day time.
My good friend Zing23 did a great investigation job in this scene when he stayed a couple of months in Bogota and World Travel 69 did a great job as usual for updating his map.
All these brothels open daily between 9 am and 9 pm, a lot are closed on Sunday. Pricing? Hard to believe, but between 20 000 and 30 000, which means between 7 and 10 $! Ugly girls? Not at all! Most are young girl next door (well next door if you live in Colombia of course!) between 20 and 30 years old, working on daytime as working at night is always more difficult to explain to family. What is the counterpart of all that good news? There is no! A great scene for the mongerer looking for unlimited sex as cost is not an issue anymore.
I have listed the brothels from north to south as you can easily and safely walk from one brothel to another, visiting the neighborhood, hop from one pussy to another. The brothels have all the same type of facilities: a bar with cheap drinks, a line-up of half a dozen girls, no cover, no pressure to enter or to leave, rooms in the venue. Facilities are cheap but clean. There are usually no showers available however for the customer.
Hard to recommend specific place, as it all depends of the girl of course not of the brothel. If you take your time to visit the different places, you can find some real gems. The basic service includes total nude, BJ, multiple position sex. If you chose the option of additional time (30 min or 60 min instead of 20 min), you might expect more than just a quickie: BBBJ, DFK and GFE if there is some chemistry with the girl.
Take out is usually not offered and most girls will decline meetings in the evening as they have chosen this scene because they can't work during night time for personal reasons.
If I have to recommend one, it would be Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. It's also the only one that is open daily day and night, from 9 am till 3 am. It's also the one with most girls, between 10 and 15 on a shift. It is also one of the most expensive whatever it means: 30 000 pour 20 min, 40 000 pour 30 min. If you want to visit only one, it should be that one. Chicas 2000 is just in front, worth to visit also.
When walking from one brothel to another, you will start to recognize the houses that are brothels: no signs, no rooms, but an open door with a guard at the entrance. There are also a couple of dudes in the street that will spot you and hand you over ID cards with addresses of a brothels.
Find here after the list from North to South:
- [B]Tantra [/B]Carrera 20 #72-30. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Princing massage+sex 40 000/20 min 60 000/30 min. 80 000/ trio. 5 girls.
-[B] Alcazares [/B]Carrera 26 #71 B-61. Open from 9 am till 7 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 42 000/30 mn. 4 Girls.
- [B]Chicas Milenio[/B] Calle 71 #14 A-24. Open from 9 am till 2 am every day. Pricing 30 00/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Chicas 2000[/B]Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Bar La 70 [/B]Carrera 17 # 70 A-80 [URL]www.paradise-bogota.com[/URL] . Open daily from 8 am till 9 pm. Pricing 25 000/20 min 30 000/30 min. A great place to hang around, 8 girls.
- Calle 68 #17-85. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. Only 4 average girls.
- [B]Acuarius [/B]Carrera 19 #67-93. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 4 average girls.
- [B]Video Bar[/B] Carrera 19 # 67-47. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 3 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]La Bonita [/B]Carrera 15 #67-24. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 25 000/20 min and 30 000/30 min. 6 girls.
-[B] Tantra [/B]alle 67 # 15-10. Nice White House but with only 4 average girls. Open from 9 am till 8 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min.
-[B] Las Vegas Club[/B] Calle 67 # 16-23. Nice night Club facilities with rooms. Open from 9 pm till 9 pm every day. 10 girls.
-[B] Bar Las Divas[/B] Carrera 17 # 66-32. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- Carrera 17 # 66-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. 3 average girls and pricing is to be negotiated. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Bless Bar [/B]Carrera 15 #66-22. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Palmeras Real[/B] Carrera 15 # 66-17. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min, 32 000/30 min and 64 000/60 min. 10 young and nice girls.
- [B]La Mansion del Placer[/B] Carrera 16 #65-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 60/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 66 # 17-08. A new place Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min and 50 000/30 min. Only 2 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Lottus Bar [/B]Calle 65 # 13-61.
- [B]Gaticas[/B] Av. Caracas # 64-36. Open daily from 9 am till 11 pm, pricing is 30 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 65 000/60 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Bar Reservado "La 64" [/B]Calle 64 #15-30. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 64#15-18 Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]El Paraiso[/B]Carrera 15 # 63-26. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Palmira[/B]Calle 63 # 16 A-42. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min. 5 girls.
- [B]112 Masajes [/B]Calle 62 #13-31. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 60 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min. Just two average girls, not worth the price.
- [B]El Tercer Piso [/B]Calle 61 A # 13 A-39. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Sex on the Way [/B]Carrera 9 #57-76. Open daily from 10 am till 8 pm. Clean facilities and 9 girls, but way more expensive than the others. 60 000/20 min, 90 000/30 min and 120 000/60 min.
- [B]Lewinski Bar[/B] Calle 57 #9-35. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. Clean facilities, 6 girls.
- [B]Alisch Spa [/B]Carrera 17 # 53-36. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. There is sauna and Jacuzzi available. 4 girls.
[B]NIGHT CLUBS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
You are looking for a night brothel, don't want any more the high end clubs from the Northern Area with overrated prices, but don't want also to take risks in the infamous Zona de Tolerencia, here a great advice, there are 2 great night clubs in the Chapinero area: Pussy House and La 49. I always had very good experiences here, expect good service.
[B]Pussy House [/B]Calle 61 #13-64. Open from 5 pm till 2 am from Monday till Saturday. No cover. The neighborhood looks unsafe, no sign, but everything looks better once inside. The first floor is a stripclub with pole dance, bar, you shaped sofas. The second floor is a nightclub where couple dance on salsa music. Rooms are in the third and fourth floor. There are 30 to 50 girls between 20 and 30 years old. No cover, cheap drinks, 120 000 for an exit fee but most go to the room, pricing is 70 000/30 min. A private strip dance is 40 000. As drinks are cheap, you can stay here, drink and have fun all night, no need to worry for the final bill. It's a popular club and there are a lot of clients on Friday and Saturday.
There are a few low level night clubs in the area taking advantage of the popularity of Pussy House.
- [B]Las Divas [/B]Calle 61 # 13-81, just in front of Pussy House. Open daily from 1 pm till 2 am. A strip club with some rougher atmosphere. No cover. There are some 20 average girls here, not at the level of Pussy house.
- [B]Salome [/B]Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
- [B]Nueva Pasarela [/B]Calle 64 # 13-73. Open daily except Sunday from 5 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
-[B] Innova Pasarela[/B] Calle 62 #13-46. More a night club than a day brothel, open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 5 girls.
- Calle 62 #13-46. Open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
[B]La Forty Nine (La 49)[/B] Carrera 13 # 49-77 tel. +57 tel. (1) 2888773 [URL]http://fortynineclub.com/.[/URL] It's a monument in Bogota, with its kitsch facilities easy to recognize on Carrera 13, several movies have been shot here. It has better facilities than Pussy House and is also more expensive. Night club with pole dance and strip shows in the main floor, restaurant and rooms in the basement, mezzanine with a great view on the entire club and more rooms on the second floor. No cover. There are 30 girls between 20 and 30 years old. As prices are higher than Pussy House, there are less customers: 120 000/30 min in the room. It's still a great option compared to the more expensive northern clubs or the less safer clubs in Zona de Tolerencia.
Again here there are a couple of clubs in the neighborhood taking advantage of the notoriety of la 49. The most obvious is the next door club, as you might easily enter the wrong door. But once inside, it's obvious that it's not the notorious 49: poor facilities and just a couple of average girls. Other low level nightbars:
- Calle 49 # 13-70. Open from Monday till Saturday from 1 pm till 2 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- Calle 49 #13-98. Open from 10 am till 3 pm from Monday till Wednesday, from 9 am till 5 pm from Thursday till Saturday. No cover, strip show. 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]STREET ACTION IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
OK, you start to feel more comfortable with the Bogota scene, you are now ready for the infamous Zona de Tolerencia. It's not my favorite scene, but then again, it's not to be missed for a punter visiting Bogota as nowhere else in Colombia you will find so many sex workers per square meter.
Main problem of the zona de Tolerencia is that everything is tolerated, not only prostitution. There are some real creepy dudes here. It's always busy, there is always police in the area, it's not that you risk your live. But pickpockets, drunk dudes, a trans that start a scandal, claiming money for a blowjob he never gave. Enough possible experiences that might ruin your stay.
My advice would be to visit the area first during daytime and get used to the area. By night, don't walk outside the main block where there is police presence and bouncers. If you are drunk, you should definitely not walk outside, do everything with a taxi. Best would be anyway not to drink and have a wingman by night.
On daytime, you can easily take the Transmilenio and get out at station Calle 22. You will notice the building of La Piscina, Zona de Tolerencia is behind that building: Carrera 15,16 why 16 A between Calle 23 and 24.
Street action starts at 9 am and ends at 3 am. At peek time, there are probably 200 girls waiting in front of the numerous motels. Typical motels are Doll House, Las Vegas, El Encanto, Pasada Nare, Manizales.
There are also numerous smaller bars where girls hang out for a short time in the nearby motel.
Pricing is 20 000 till 30 000 plus 7 000 for the room. As the girls are waiting in front of motels or inside bars, you might easily mistake it for a brothel or a club. There is a huge difference however, the girls are not working for the motels or the bars, don't decline ID to them unlike what is happening in brothels and clubs. Therefore, robbing, rip off or simply bad service is much more likely with street action. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, some good looking. To be honest, I can't report about the service, but don't expect more than mechanic and unhygienic sex. I therefore won't advice this scene, as you can get much better service in a much safer environment for the same cost in the numerous day brothels of Chapinero.
There is also street action in the peripheral area of Zona de Tolerencia. Needless to say, don't walk in this area by night. South of the Zona de Tolerencia, which means between calle 23 and calle 19 is the TV and other monsters area. Be very careful here!
On the other side of Caracas, there is another street action area, on Carrera 13 why Carrera 13 A between Calle 24 and Calle 18. This is the area of the ugly old women. They usually wait in front of a house or a building's door. If this is your way of having fun, pricing are as low as 20 000. Again, I can't and don't want to report about quality of service.
[B]CLUBS IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
Apart from street action, the Zona de Tolerencia has the highest density of brothels and clubs of Bogota, you can literally have sex 24 hours a day 7 days a week, therefore it is very popular. It's not my favorite scene, girls who work here are hard core pro's. It's not exactly the place where you might find your shy innocent student working occasionally here to pay her bills. But then again, it's maybe not what you are looking for. If you are looking for your hot and nasty "bomba Latina" with fake boobs giving great PSE, here is the place to be. Average age between 20 and 30 years old.
The next issue is safety. Again, I would recommend to visit it first during day time. On night time, watch your back. Having said this, the clubs inside are safe, so it's perfectly safe to come and go with taxi and enter directly in any of the clubs. All clubs have rooms but there is also the option to go out for all night for 200 000 up to 400 000. I would however not suggest to come and look for your princess of the night in la Zona de Tolerencia, There are day clubs, nightclubs and even clubs that start after midnight when most clubs close till next morning when the first clubs open again.
The landmark is the famous [B]La Piscina[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/La-Piscina-...4720090119266/[/URL] Carrera 15 # 23-64, no cover. Open daily from 1 pm till 3 am. As it is on Caracas, you can actually access the club without even entering the Zona de Tolerencia. They have a private and safe parking lot. This is the most famous brothel of Colombia, several movies have been shot here. The swimming pool is a nice deco, but is not for using as. Nice and calm place with strip shows around the swimming pool and rooms upstairs. Nice girls also but usually the quantity is a bit disappointing, usually a dozen. Pricing is more than the other clubs, 120 000/30 min. You can actually exit on both side of the club, which is to say Caracas and Carrera 15, which is directly in the Zona de Tolerencia.
The best brothel of the Zona de Tolerencia however by far is [B]El Castillo[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/ElCatilloVipClub/[/URL] Calle 23 # 14-19. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am, no cover. You can't miss this club, with a huge kitsch sign, at the entrance of the Zona de Tolerencia, La Piscina being on the left side and el Castillo on the right side. Great facilities, impressive deco, a huge strip club on the main floor and nice rooms upstairs. Here there are up to 40 very hot girls, most with fake boobs however. It's also by far the most expensive of the Zona de Tolerencia, 150 000/30 min. The only downside of this place is the pushy staff in smoking similar on what happens in the high end clubs of Zona Norte. Drinks are pricey also here by the way, so check price list. Bust is to order a bottle and get rid of the pushy staff for the rest of the night and enjoy this place with impressive girls.
All other clubs are in a similar pricing range, 60 000/30 min, no cover. Most clubs have obvious signs and strip shows here the list of clubs in the order of the walking path to visit Zona de Tolerencia, starting from the entrance between la Piscina and El Castillo.
- [B]California Night Club [/B]Calle 23 #15-22. Open from Thursday till Saturday between 2 am and 10 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- Calle 23 # 16-02. Open daily between 3 pm and 2 am. A club on the corner. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B] Punto de Oro [/B]Carrera 16 #23-01, on the other corner. Open daily between 10 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
Here, turn right into Calle 16 A, the busiest street of Zona de Tolerencia secured and closed to traffic by night with police presence and bouncers.
- [B]Atunes[/B] Carrera 16 A # 23-19. This is the temporary location of Atunes, as the historical one on Carrera 16 a # 23-88 has been closed by authorities. As Atunes did a great job on the deco, there is even a huge aquarium, it looks like this temporary location might be for long term. Open daily between 10 a m and 10 am. No cover, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's probably the most popular brothel after El Castillo. It's also not so noisy and dark as the other clubs, a nice place to have a bear and relax.
- [B]Eclipse [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-32. It's one of the 4 after hour clubs. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Venus [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-43. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Fiebre Sex [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-50. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Fiebre-Sex-846028748743688/.[/URL] Open daily between 1 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Las Paisas [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-58. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paisas-Club/187764624697832.[/URL] Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Apollo [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-59. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B]Guau Night Club [/B]Carrera 16 A # 69. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]La Casona [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-76. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Kiss[/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-89. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Atonys [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-88. Open daily between 12 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room. Actually it's the historic location of Atunes, started under new management.
Turn right on Calle 23 and again right on Carrera 16.
-[B]Troya [/B]Carrera 16 # 23-89. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Troya-Night-CLUB-343205905774849/.[/URL] Open daily between 2 pm and 3 pm. No cover, strip shows, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. One of the better clubs, on Friday and Saturday it's packed and there is a cover fee of 10 000 to limit the customers. Actually it has also an entrance on Carrera 16 A where there is a parking.
- [B]Lion [/B]Carrera 16 #23-51. Open daily between 3 pm and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's a new club, it has potential to grow.
Around the Zona de Tolerencia, on the other side of the Transmilenio, there are a couple of other brothels just for the record. It's OK to visit on day time, on night I would not recommend this area. Anyway, they are also not worth it:
- Carrera 10 # 19-38. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/30 min in the room. 10 girls.
- Cara Show Carrera 8 #19-31 Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. No cover, strip show. Pricing si 40 000/30 min. 10 girls.
[B]CLUBS IN PRIMER DE MAYO[/B]
Although it's the second most important prostitution area of Bogota after the Zona de Tolerencia, no one had ever reported this scene on ISG until why accidentally discovered it when visiting a swinger club in the area. As usual, World Travel 69 did a great investigation job to update his map will all the brothels of this area.
Truth is that Primer de Mayo is far south of the city, but it's also the most important rumba area of Bogota after Zona T. The area however is way not as safe as Zona T as we are in the south of the city. Watch your back here, even if the area is busy on night time due to the numerous regular night clubs, casinos and bars.
All these brothels are strip clubs with obvious signs. However, the scene is confusing as it's not easy to make the difference between a brothel, a strip club without sex (called "barra why tanga' such as Midas, barra la you, Barra la Tanga, Tantalos, Tanga why Aroma, Faraonas). A regular disco and a gay club.
The scene is along Avenida Prime de Mayo between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali. A Milestone is the Mac Donald. Stay on the side of the Mac Donald, as on the other side of the boulevard is the gay sector and some can be aggressive.
Would I recommend it? Well, it's not my favorite scene, but if you like Zona de Tolerencia, you will like Primer de Mayo. The atmosphere in this neighborhood is different, there is no street action and day action but once in the clubs, facilities, girls and service are similar to Zona de Tolerencia, Angelos being the Castillo and Guadalajara being the Troya of Primer de Mayo. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, from average to nice. Service is mechanical, BBBJ and DFK are not included.
Starting from Carrera 68 to Avenida de Cali:
- [B]Los Angeles VIP [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #68 I-21, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. It's an upscale stripclub, no cover, open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. If facilities are great, there are only 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pasarela Show [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-28. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Coliseo Romano [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-30. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Fiebre [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-42. Open daily from 5 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show. 10 girls, pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Castle Blue [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-46. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Guadalajara [/B]Av 1 de Mayo #69 B-53, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strips show. One of the best, 20 girls. Pricing is 70 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pereira[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-16. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Angelos [/B][URL]http://www.angelos.com.co/[/URL] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-20. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow. The most upscale club in the area with impressive facilities. However just 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min.
- [B]Septimo Cielo [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-28. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Azafatas[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-58. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Moroco [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-69. On the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. No sign, just a door with stairs to the first floor. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Happy Night [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-68. Open daily from 8 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]THE SWINGER SCENE[/B]
I lost interest in the mongering scene as paying for sex seems ridiculous when living in Colombia. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, and discovered the swinger scene of Bogota. The great thing about the swinger scene is that you have sex with women that really enjoy sex and don't do it just for the money.
I know most punters are not interested in swinging. But give it a try, instead of bringing your pro to a motel, go with her to a swinger club. You will not have sex only with her, but also with other women. Swinger clubs that are open to single men will usually throw a couple of single pro in the crowd so that sex is guaranteed even for single men. You should not be shy however for having sex in public, as the rooms are always open.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their clothes on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Fun for Colombians means not just sex, it means socializing together, making jokes, dancing and drinking. Atmosphere is therefore way better than in European swing clubs where people just fuck silently and I would say sadly.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
- [B]Spa SW[/B] [URL]http://swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted. The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed. Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most. The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals. The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
-[B]Interspa[/B] [URL]www.intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted. It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
- [B]Europeo[/B] [URL]www.europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks. Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty. But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to fuck the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with water guns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
- [B]Zafiro[/B] [URL]www.zafirosclub-sw.com[/URL] Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open every day from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open every day also for single men. It's by far the biggest swing club, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
- [B]Monastery[/B] Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closest Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened with a new management. It is simply my preferred place to go with my novia, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.
- [B]Theli y Luna [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69 02 [URL]https://twitter.com/theliyluna>[/URL] Open from Thursday till Saurday from 8. 30 pm till 2. 30 am. It's a black door right next the Mac Donald. Entrance is 70 000, facilities not at the level of the swingers club of Zona Norte of course. The atmosphere is very relaxed, 3 average working girls do their best that everybody socialize with everybody. It's a bit like a German partytreff more than a swinger club. Few other couple, most guests are single men fucking for free the working girls. Fucking 3 girls including the drinks for just 70 000, hard to find cheaper! The sex is very disappointing however, a quick mechanical fuck on street action level. Worth the unique experience however.
- [B]Piscina Normandie [/B]Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] Last, but not least, here is the best kept secret of Bogota. It's a regular swimming pool during the week end but a swinger club from Monday till Wednesday from 3 pm till 10 pm. I guess the mothers would be horrified to learn what is happening during the weekdays in that swimming pool where their children swim!
Monday 60 000 for couples or single men, Tuesday 60 00 for couples and 99 for single men, but sex guaranteed as there are working girls and Wednesday only couples for 69 000. Indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna, nice facilities. But best is the atmosphere, as Viviana does her best that everybody socializes together. She has each time new ideas: a colored wristband to indicate availability of the women: red is no, yellow is maybe and green open to anything! All the women together giving soap massage to each man, amazing so many female hands touching your body! Sometimes she organizes a unique event: inverse gang bang! A team of 6 girls gang banging each single man, a once in a lifetime experience!
Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff.[/QUOTE]
Bravo sir. Thanks for your effort! Your exclusive knowledge of the swinger scene is an eye-opener. I can't wait to get back to Bogota.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1911407]Bravo sir. Thanks for your effort! Your exclusive knowledge of the swinger scene is an eye-opener. I can't wait to get back to Bogota.[/QUOTE]I also want to thank Routard for an amazing review. Great stuff.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries......................[/QUOTE]Thank you Routard, I saved your report in my travel documents folder.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1911407]Bravo sir. Thanks for your effort! Your exclusive knowledge of the swinger scene is an eye-opener. I can't wait to get back to Bogota.[/QUOTE]Amazing report Routard. Thank you so much. I am also a fan of the European looking women and I frequent Bogota. I am planning to visit Moscow this year but after reading this report I am re-thinking my plan and might revert back to Colombia.
Any experience in Russia Routard?
Great report, Routard!! Already thinking of perhaps visiting Bogota and taking you up on the offer!! Thank you for taking the time to write it all. Cheers.
Thanks for all your congratulations, I really appreciate. The Bogota FAQ is a description of the scene with view from the punter's side and 100% objective info. Find hereafter description of the scene but with view from the working girl's side. Of course its way more subjective as it's just an interpretation of numerous discussions with the girls. Not easy to build a relation of trust, as the girls are in a selling mode and full of bullshit. They will always try to make you believe that they are new in the business, that they would never ever do this and that, that they have no boyfriend etc. However, I know some of the girls in their normal life, sometimes over a period of time of years, always making it clear that I'm not interested in "dating', simply friendship. I guess this time I will receive much more critics of my reports, as the subjective information is more open to discussion and disagreement.
1. How does a girl enter in this job? No it's not a bad pimp waiting innocent girls in front of the high school, offering free drug so that girls will become addicted after her first shot and ready to do anything for the next shots including going into prostitution. There is also no international conspiracy of a powerful criminal human traffic organization. Actually, in Colombia the organized crime is not interested in prostitution, prefer by far narco-traffic, extortions and kidnap for a living. Prostitution is simply not that lucrative in Colombia for brothel owners as I will explain it later with the figures. No, the explanation is way easier how girls get in prostitution: the desperately need of money. She comes from a low social class, has no one to support or help her, can't afford to pay for study, has no skills or experience and she desperately needs money. Most of the girls in prostitution had a baby when teenager, with a teenage father unable and unwilling to support her and her baby.
2. If there is no organized crime behind prostitution, are the girls pimped? Yes, some stupid girls are pimped and give money the earned from prostitution to the boyfriend they love. It's however a very small minority, as in latino culture girls are educated that boys always have to pay the food, drinks and leisure to the girls and that in a relationship men have to support the financial necessities of women. Girls have therefore a very strong attitude of independence when in prostitution. However, if the money is not for the boyfriend, it's definitively used to support family. As family usually has no clue that the girls are in prostitution, it is definitively not to be compared with pimping.
3. Are the girls addicted to prostitution? Yes, definitively as they discover how to earn quickly (I would not say easily) a lot of money without any skill, diploma or experience. However, it's just for a period of time, between 20 and 30 years old. In Colombia you will rarely see old women in prostitution as you might see it often in Europe or USA. Most girls get out of the business when they enter in a serious relationship with someone that can support her financial needs. I know and follow a lot of girls with facebook over the years. Girls get married, get children and have a normal life far from the prostitution world. I always wondered if the husbands had any clue of her past life, I guess not.
4. Does prostitution destroy the girls socially? Basically I would say that there are 2 types of working girls in Colombia: the day workers and the night workers. Girls working in day brothels or day massage parlors do it because they can't work by night for family reasons. Even if there is never a formal contract with the brothels, they keep usually with the same brothel and same timeframe as if they would go to work at office. They work in a safe environment, will never accept to see customers outside the brothel, have no emotional link with customers and family just believe they have a regular job. These girls are very stable socially. Some girls work by day and by night, but very soon will realize that working by night is way more interesting financially and will keep it to the night scene. The counterpart is that the night scene is way more dangerous, with creepy and drunk dudes, in an environment stimulating alcohol. Girls work hard, sleep little and start to drink or to take drugs to deal with it. They are usually far from family and are socially isolated as they live when other sleep and sleep when others live.
5. Does prostitution affect their sexuality or emotional balance? Surprisingly not that much, even if she is fucking a dozen guys a day, as far as I could see. Actually, the vast majority of sexual interaction has absolutely no effect on her, a simple quick moment with nearly no feelings or emotions. Some are bad experiences with a stupid jerk, including sometimes violent and dangerous experiences and some are nice moments with mutual chemistry including genuine orgasm. Prostitution nearly never affects sexual desire, on the contrary. Some girls were very inexperienced with poor sexuality before starting in the business. Prostitution made them more open minded to sexuality and creating a need of sexual satisfaction that surprisingly stays unsatisfied as the vast majority of sexual contacts are quick, poor in feelings and emotions. Girls are open to enjoy sex, including with customers, this is basically how some girls explained it to me.
6. Is a prostitute able to make the difference and enjoy making love with her boyfriend when having sex with dozens of customers? Yes definitively, it doesn't affect her private life. Just think about how you as a customer manage the difference of having sex with prostitutes and having sex at home. Believing that only men can have sex without emotional relation is a myth.
7. Are the girls exploited by brothel owners and other players in the sex industry? Definitively not in Colombia. This is how things work in the clubs of Zona de Tolerencia. Girls enter, give their false name, sometimes have to show ID to check they are not minor, put their stuff in a locker, go to work and at the end of the night get the money the club had safely collected for them. Girls are paid 60 000 to go to the room, and only 7 000 is for the club. As a comparison, in clean and legal Switzerland, 33% of earnings go to the brothel, in some countries is goes till 50%. In addition, the club pays the girls for each strip show she makes and the club gets the money only from the drinks. Girls are fee to enter and exit the clubs and jump from one club to another during the night. However, the higher end clubs have restrictions, starting with El Castillo and of course all the exclusive clubs in zona norte. Girls need to respect time schedule and cannot exit freely or has to pay the bar fine, between 80 000 and 150 000. This is because these higher end clubs have a living with customers doing all nighter and paying the barfine to go out the club with the girl. In exclusive clubs, the rooms are way more expensive, usually 150 000, but the client pays it directly to the bar and pays the girl her part, usually 300 000, so there is still a comfortable % of earnings for the girls. Keep in mind that in exclusive clubs, the cost of building is also way higher.
8. Are the girls checked for health? No definitively not, there is no legal obligation for that and clubs don't do it. The only legal obligation is that the girl needs to be over 18, that's the only thing the club will check.
9. Are the girls different from the exclusive clubs of Zona Norte and the brothels of Zona de Tolerencia? No, this is a myth, girls try different clubs, you might pay the very same girl 400 000 in Zona Norte and fuck her the very next evening for 50 000 in Zona de Tolerencia. You might even see her in front of a motel doing street action!
10. Why the hell would a girl accept to fuck for 50 000 if she can do it elsewhere for 400 000? Well, when she works in a club in Zona de Tolerencia, she earns some 400 000 a night with the strip shows and the different sessions in the room. If she goes to a club in Zona Norte, she will wait all night till she finally can earn that 400 000, and sometimes she might end up the night with nothing.
11. Why if it's for the same girl it's worth to pay her 400 000 if you can pay her 50 000 elsewhere? Because even if it's the same girl, she will definitively not behave and act the same way in one scene or another. In a club in Zona de tolerencia, you will just be one of the dozen anonymous guys she has to fuck without chemistry and in a small time frame, as they start to knock on the door after 10 min to free the room. In an exclusive club in Zona Norte, you will be the customer she has waited for all night. She has her daily sexual needs and you will be the only one to be able to fulfill it, so she will want to make love. If in addition you have chosen to take her out of the club and pay afterwards instead of upfront, your chances of getting GFE are nearly guaranteed.
12. If the same girls can work in Zona Norte as in Zona de Tolerencia, why the hell the girls seem more beautiful in Zona Norte than in Zona de Tolerencia? Well, simply natural selection. Girls try different clubs until they find the most suitable clubs where they can make most money. Only beautiful girls can cope with high competition of Zona Norte. Average girls will be the girls that will finish the night without one single customer and will prefer Zona de Tolerencia. In addition, Zona Norte has sometimes also genuine semi-pros that simply would not imagine working in infamous Zona de Tolerencia and fucking with dozens of drunk guys. They just need 2 or 3 customers a week to pay their studies.
13. How much does a girl earn in the different scenes? As explained earlier, the main difference is between the day scene and the night scene. In the day scene, a girl earns around 100 000 till 200 0000 a day in a brothel, which seems low, but 2 5000 000 or 5 000 0000 a month is a comfortable income in Colombia. In a day massage parlor, it might be closer to 200 000 than 100 0000 a day. At night, a girl earns around 250 000 till 500 000 a day, 500 000 on week end and 250 000 during the week, no matter if it's in a low level brothel or exclusive club as explained earlier.
14. How does a girl evaluate the acceptable price for an all nighter? The typical mistake a customer makes when negotiating an all nighter is to believe that the girl will evaluate the effort she has to make during that night. Actually the girl doesn't care if it's to escort a charming guy in a cool night event or to heavily sport fuck all night with a dirty sex addict. She will only look what she will not earn that night being not in the club. Roughly she earns 100 000 an hour during peak time, do the math. Therefore she will ask more money on Friday and Saturday night between 8 pm and 2 am than during week days or after 2 am.
15. Are the girls working in Colombia the same as those working in Saint Maarten, Aruba and Curacao? Any girl you will meet in Aruba, Curacao or Saint Maarten will tell you that she can only work abroad far from her family and would never be able to do it in her home country. A great selling talk I also believed when I mongered in these islands. Truth is that all working girls in Bogota have heard about success stories of a 3 months contract in these islands, want to work or have worked at least once in one of these islands.
16. Are the girls going to new horizons now that there is no visa anymore to go to Europe? Theoretically, a girl can easily go to Germany for 3 month and work in a FKK. But none talk about it so far, the cost of airline ticket seems a mental barrier to try such an adventure.
17. Is it possible to date a Colombian prostitute? It's quite easy get the telephone number and to meet a girl outside the club. It's not impossible to have a happy marriage with a former Colombiana working girl as all girls will end up in a normal life after sometime. However, chances are very high that she will simply see you as a privileged client and additional incomes. Look yourself in the mirror next her and be honest with yourself: do you both together really look like a genuine couple? Don't make a fool of you and if you are looking for a serous relationship, make it much more likely to succeed by finding her elsewhere than in a brothel.
18. Are all Colombianas potential prostitutes? This is a very common mistake made by gringos who can only meet prostitutes and therefore believe all Colombianas are prostitutes. Official statistics say that there are 14 000 prostitutes in Bogota. I believe it is way overestimated compared to the complete overview I made of the Bogota scene, but even 14 000 is not much for a city of 8 000 000.
I just can't believe the quality if women I see reported on. I've read several, experienced people I'm guessing, posting photos of outstanding super model material. I'm coming soon so I will experience for myself. A lot of the escort sites I've looked at the girls are stunning! I travel there November staying at good hotels. I'm staying in meds best hotel and I wonder how GF they are.
Can't wait to see if these girls are really the best in the world.
Routard,
Do you happen know which Virrey hotel? Is it B3 Virrey.
There seem to be several Virrey hotels in area.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
[B]WHERE TO STAY[/B]
Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly, there might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.
Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: [URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL], full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.
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[QUOTE=Corpo;1914752]Routard,
Do you happen know which Virrey hotel? Is it B3 Virrey.
There seem to be several Virrey hotels in area.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are several hotels in Bogota with th ename Virrey, there is even on in the center namesd liked that. The one I recommended is Viaggio el Virrey, a different one from B3 Virrey as the later is more expensive.
Do you remember if they charge a guest registration fee?
[QUOTE=Routard;1914763]Yes, there are several hotels in Bogota with th ename Virrey, there is even on in the center namesd liked that. The one I recommended is Viaggio el Virrey, a different one from B3 Virrey as the later is more expensive.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I see that you know a lot about prostitutes, I'm impressed. There's one thing I don't get though, if I go to El Padrino brothel around 8 pm on a Friday night, if I pay a woman 250 000 (besides the exit fee of 180 000), she'll stay with me the whole night, that's until 6 am on Saturday morning. My question is, why would any woman make such a bad deal? If you do the math with each north brothel that you talk about, it comes down to the same thing, What does "short time" and "the whole night" mean to you.
The reason why I ask these things is because I like The Santa Fe Red Light District a lot. Your're right about one thing, you could find the same woman at a high end north brothel and also at The Red Light District. Here's what happened to me last Sunday night at Fiebre sex (all people just call it Fiebre), I was with a friend and we got there at 11 pm on Sunday, both of us had to fuck, so we spent like 100 000 each. The only other brothel opened on that street that night was Troya (you know what I'm talking about). Trust me, You'll always find a beautiful woman to fuck at Fiebre, even on sundays for 60 000 (without asking for a lower price, you got to respect women). Around 1 am (Monday morning), my friend paid for the last private strip show 20 000 to this beautiful thin girl with natural big tits, small awesome round ass and he decided to ask her how much it would cost them to spend the night. The answer was 300 000 to stay from 1 am until 6 am (that's a bit less than 5 hours if you consider that you have to get to the hotel). I got her mobile phone number because my friend didn't bring his mobile phone, he had no intention on spending the night with her so we left. 10 minutes after we left, the girl called us to my mobile phone (she had my number because I gave her a call to check out if I had the right number before we left), twice and she also sent me a text message asking if the deal was on. This girl was in serious need of money on a very slow Sunday night and she was asking for 300 000 for 5 hours, my friend is from Dallas but we look like locals, there's no way that she wanted to take advantage of us. I'm going to repeat the question, Why would a woman at a north high end brothel stay for 10 hours with a guy for 250 000?
[QUOTE=Bogotan2016;1915100]Hi,
I see that you know a lot about prostitutes, I'm impressed. There's one thing I don't get though, if I go to El Padrino brothel around 8 pm on a Friday night, if I pay a woman 250 000 (besides the exit fee of 180 000), she'll stay with me the whole night, that's until 6 am on Saturday morning. My question is, why would any woman make such a bad deal? If you do the math with each north brothel that you talk about, it comes down to the same thing, What does "short time" and "the whole night" mean to you.
The reason why I ask these things is because I like The Santa Fe Red Light District a lot. Your're right about one thing, you could find the same woman at a high end north brothel and also at The Red Light District. Here's what happened to me last Sunday night at Fiebre sex (all people just call it Fiebre), I was with a friend and we got there at 11 pm on Sunday, both of us had to fuck, so we spent like 100 000 each. The only other brothel opened on that street that night was Troya (you know what I'm talking about). Trust me, You'll always find a beautiful woman to fuck at Fiebre, even on sundays for 60 000 (without asking for a lower price, you got to respect women). Around 1 am (Monday morning), my friend paid for the last private strip show 20 000 to this beautiful thin girl with natural big tits, small awesome round ass and he decided to ask her how much it would cost them to spend the night. The answer was 300 000 to stay from 1 am until 6 am (that's a bit less than 5 hours if you consider that you have to get to the hotel). I got her mobile phone number because my friend didn't bring his mobile phone, he had no intention on spending the night with her so we left. 10 minutes after we left, the girl called us to my mobile phone (she had my number because I gave her a call to check out if I had the right number before we left), twice and she also sent me a text message asking if the deal was on. This girl was in serious need of money on a very slow Sunday night and she was asking for 300 000 for 5 hours, my friend is from Dallas but we look like locals, there's no way that she wanted to take advantage of us. I'm going to repeat the question, Why would a woman at a north high end brothel stay for 10 hours with a guy for 250 000?[/QUOTE]She might be tired and want a comfortable, possibly luxurious room to sleep in? You know most of these girls don't exactly live in luxury.
Changing subjects, it's rarely a good idea to make a deal for TLN with a girl you haven't sampled at least once before.
Hi Combo,
I don't think that the luxury part matters at all, it's a business, they're in it for the money. Here's some advise to you, this is something I do, if you ever go to the Red Light District, don't show off, if you want to stay the whole night with a woman, don't say anything about luxury, the less information you give about yourself the better, most of the women I've met there are very honest, but that doesn't mean that they all are.
About staying the night with a woman you haven't been with before, you're right, why should you? Here's what I can tell you (at The Red Light District, because of the prices), for that beautiful woman we met that night, my friend paid her for a strip show 20000, for 15-20 minutes of sex it would've been 50000-60000. After spending around 80000, then you can decide if you pay 300000 to spend around 5 hours with her.
If you do the same at a north brothel (like El Padrino), and have sex with her at least once because it's the first time you've seen her, then you'll be spending with that woman at least 330000 (150000 + 180000, for a short while with the girl and the room), and then to stay the whole night (we still don't know how much time that is), you'll be paying another 430000 (250000 + 180000, the woman and the exit fee), plus the expensive drinks, it comes to 950000 total give or take. It's a big difference.
In my previous post I tried to put myself into the "high heels" of the girl and explain how she could see the acceptable price for TLN. Of course there is nothing scientific and sorry if I misleaded you and you understood from me that a girl from El Padrino would accept for 250 000 to go for 10 hours, it would be highly unlikeky. If you take her out at 8 pm, she will try to make it short and return to work after a couple of hours spent. If you are negotiating just before closing time, you can get a much better deal as she might end up the night without customer. The best deal I got in Juan Pablo is 200 000 to go to a nearby swing club between 11 pm and 2 am. After 2 am, she asked me to give her a ride to a club that went on till 6 am for some adicional incomes. Bottom line, the girl looks how she can optimize time in order to get the highest earnings and confort or luxury of the time spent with the guy is definitively not something that she will take into consideration.
Truth is that what makes the northern area expensive is the exit fee or the room fee while in Santa Fe there is no exit fee except for El Castillo. If ST on site makes Santa Fe way more cheaper, the girls actually ask for similar prices when it comes to TLN.
I agree 100% with you that ST or TLN is a very relative meaning when you take the girl out of the club, and best is to make it very clear what it means for you in term of exact time and pay afterwards.
[QUOTE=Corpo;1915013]Do you remember if they charge a guest registration fee?[/QUOTE]Yes, there is a very small diferrence in pricing for singl occupancy and double occupancy, as pricing includes breakfast, no matter if the girl will finaly have breakfast or not.
[QUOTE=Combo;1915298]She might be tired and want a comfortable, possibly luxurious room to sleep in? You know most of these girls don't exactly live in luxury.
Changing subjects, it's rarely a good idea to make a deal for TLN with a girl you haven't sampled at least once before.[/QUOTE]I guess I've been lucky; I don't think I've ever taken a girl on the premises in the North clubs. I'd always get there about 10, watch the scene, interview-charm-drink with-a few girls, watch their demeanor, get numbers, and choose one to take for the night after closing. This hasn't failed me yet (knock on wood). There's three or four good clubs in walking distance in Zona Rosa, so my friends and I called it "going shopping". Looking for the best product at the right prices and selecting when supply outweighs demand! Being that last guy that is a difference between a great night and going home empty handed makes a big difference in their mood!
[QUOTE=Bogotan2016;1915100]I'm going to repeat the question, Why would a woman at a north high end brothel stay for 10 hours with a guy for 250 000?[/QUOTE]There are a million different reasons. Maybe it's the time of month, desperate for money, no customers that night, thinks the guy is fat and ugly or handsome. Why do you care? It all comes down to what you can negotiate.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1914217]I just can't believe the quality if women I see reported on. I've read several, experienced people I'm guessing, posting photos of outstanding super model material. I'm coming soon so I will experience for myself. A lot of the escort sites I've looked at the girls are stunning! I travel there November staying at good hotels. I'm staying in meds best hotel and I wonder how GF they are.
Can't wait to see if these girls are really the best in the world.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Corpo;1915013]Do you remember if they charge a guest registration fee?[/QUOTE]Generally, I don't recommend hotels in Colombia. I prefer the apartment route. If you must use a hotel, at the minimum register for 2. Keep in mind that it doesn't guarantee anything. Some may want guests to arrive before 10 or guests to check in the same time as you. The more stars the hotel, the level of friendliness goes down. Also, my definition of friendly may differ than yours. To me it means no additional charge. Some guys take it to mean that they will at least allow a guest in (whether that is a small additional charge or large additional charge).
[QUOTE=Bogotan2016;1915507]Hi Combo,
I don't think that the luxury part matters at all, it's a business, they're in it for the money. Here's some advise to you, this is something I do, if you ever go to the Red Light District, don't show off, if you want to stay the whole night with a woman, don't say anything about luxury, the less information you give about yourself the better, most of the women I've met there are very honest, but that doesn't mean that they all are.
[/QUOTE]As Combo and Hioctane have said it could be many reasons why a girl will take the 250 k for a TLN as you first asked. And yes I have had many a girl stay with me for Luxury for a night. Countless examples really from the Philippines to Colombia and Brazil where some poor broke ass chicas will weigh their options after our first fuck. Do they want to sleep in a penthouse apartment and swim in the pool the next day or get on public transportation for 2-3 hours to return home and then next day return on the same transportation 2-3 hours back or just stay over for a TLN. (exact scenario from a Rio terma girl 3 months ago).
Another example from right here in Colombia, A chica in Bogota was delighted to stay with me for hours when I paid her only 150 k for a ST, why? Because my hotel had hot water, a simple luxury she did not have in her miserable place.
So yes girls sometimes will stay much longer if they feel comfortable or are enjoying "the luxury" that you have provided. Yes it is still a business and she will easily hop to another place if she has another appointment scheduled. Sometimes its all about the money for the girl (bills are due) , sometimes its about the money and a little luxury, sometimes its about the money and she likes the guy just a little.
I'm very sorry, but besides Combo, it seems like Soldierb11 and Hioctane are not understanding the question, It's not whether a woman would stay with you or not for the whole night asking for a certain amount. The question was very simple, Routard wrote that a woman at a north brothel in Bogota would stay with you the whole night for 250 000 and then he made it clear that due to his experience it was for a short period of time (two hours for 200 000). Do me a favor Soldierb11, I told my recent experience with facts, not making assumptions about anything, tell me the name of the brothel that you went to, the date and the fake name of the prostitute so we can have a serious conversation like the one I had with Routard. One more thing, for a woman to be interested in hot water here, she'd have to be very poor and that's not the case of the women that work at a north brothel, not even a woman that charges 35 000 for 30 minutes would be interested on bathing with hot water, now the luxury part it could be different.
It seems that both of you didn't read the original post. Could you do me a favor Soldierb11? Tell me the name of the brothel, the date, time and the fake name of the prostitute (if possible), that you paid 150 000 to for a TLN. For a woman here to be dazzled by hot water she has to be very poor. Why don't you read my first post like Combo did and then you can tell me where your very unlikely experience with that poor woman happened so I can check it out. If that's true and she's my type, then I'm going to pay her for a TLN.
I have received several responses from girls on dating sites that I wonder if they are using an expression I should know.
They refer to "having a taste" or "lots of taste" like these quotes.
"si desea con gusto".
"Asi que rico con gusto podemos salir why conocer. Why con gusto nos podremos es interesante conocerte un beso".
Is this an expression asking if I want sex with them? From the context it seems possible.
Translation please!
GT.
[QUOTE=Bogotan2016;1916444]It seems that both of you didn't read the original post. Could you do me a favor Soldierb11? Tell me the name of the brothel, the date, time and the fake name of the prostitute (if possible), that you paid 150 000 to for a TLN. For a woman here to be dazzled by hot water she has to be very poor. Why don't you read my first post like Combo did and then you can tell me where your very unlikely experience with that poor woman happened so I can check it out. If that's true and she's my type, then I'm going to pay her for a TLN.[/QUOTE]All I did was say girls can be tempted by many different things to change their normal operating procedure and turn a ST into a TLN for not much more.
I was only pointing out sometimes where the girls into account. You took that as an insult or something? Getting all fired up about that huh? "do me a favor Soldierb11" jajajajaj. If that is all it takes to get under your skin it will be interesting to see when someone actually disagrees with you.
The two examples that I gave that you crave the exact details for-.
1- Solarium in Rio, date Feb 19 her fake name was Jessica, real name Renata. She stays all night with me instead of going back to her place in nova iguacu a couple hours away. So she saved herself the two hours of going home that night and the 2 hours to go back to solarium the next day and then spent it at beach with me. You asked Bogotan what was the time? What do you want bro? The time I entered her for the first time? The time we finished and she could've gone home? The time we did it after the beach? The time she left to return to work?
2- the girl from Bogota was seen in piscina, her fake name I have no idea what it is, when she showed up at reception her real name was Kelly. Date was January 29 or 30. Again what time are you looking for? Time she entered the W or time she left the next day? Time she wrapped her lips around my dick?
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1916222]As Combo and Hioctane have said it could be many reasons why a girl will take the 250 k for a TLN as you first asked. And yes I have had many a girl stay with me for Luxury for a night. Countless examples really from the Philippines to Colombia and Brazil where some poor broke ass chicas will weigh their options after our first fuck. Do they want to sleep in a penthouse apartment and swim in the pool the next day or get on public transportation for 2-3 hours to return home and then next day return on the same transportation 2-3 hours back or just stay over for a TLN. (exact scenario from a Rio terma girl 3 months ago).
Another example from right here in Colombia, A chica in Bogota was delighted to stay with me for hours when I paid her only 150 k for a ST, why? Because my hotel had hot water, a simple luxury she did not have in her miserable place.
So yes girls sometimes will stay much longer if they feel comfortable or are enjoying "the luxury" that you have provided. Yes it is still a business and she will easily hop to another place if she has another appointment scheduled. Sometimes its all about the money for the girl (bills are due) , sometimes its about the money and a little luxury, sometimes its about the money and she likes the guy just a little.[/QUOTE]Well said! I have done this same thing dozens of times in Medellin and Rio. I haven't been to Bogota, so it may be different there. (I read this thread because I'm contemplating hitting Bogota this Winter). At the Mansion in MDE, I have paid girls 150 k for short-time, which turned into all-night for very little more (several times for just breakfast and a taxi home). Obviously, this won't always work. But if you get along well with the girl, and she has no other offer for her time, it most definitely can.
Con gusto= with pleasure.
Es un gusto conocerlo = is a pleasure to meet you.
Si desea con gusto = if you wish it will be a pleasure.
No, they are not asking you for sex, they are just being polite and showing interest to go out or whatever you ask.
Que gusto fue verte ayer = what a pleasure was to see you yesterday.
Con gusto podemos salir = with pleasure we can go out.
Get it?
[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;1916626]I have received several responses from girls on dating sites that I wonder if they are using an expression I should know.
They refer to "having a taste" or "lots of taste" like these quotes.
"si desea con gusto".
"Asi que rico con gusto podemos salir why conocer. Why con gusto nos podremos es interesante conocerte un beso".
Is this an expression asking if I want sex with them? From the context it seems possible.
Translation please!
GT.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1916222]As Combo and Hioctane have said it could be many reasons why a girl will take the 250 k for a TLN .....Sometimes its all about the money for the girl (bills are due) , sometimes its about the money and a little luxury, sometimes its about the money and she likes the guy just a little.[/QUOTE]And sometimes is as simple as the way you treat them. Had a couple of girls that work on the north side that stayed with me not only TLN but TEFS (todo el fin de semana = all weekend haha) without even asking for money (gave them 500 K at the end and were very happy). One of them became a regular and would stay with me 2-3 days at the time whenever I visited. Had the same experience at other Latin American cities. Treat them right, it goes a long way.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1916723]And sometimes is as simple as the way you treat them. Had a couple of girls that work on the north side that stayed with me not only TLN but TEFS (todo el fin de semana = all weekend haha) without even asking for money (gave them 500 K at the end and were very happy). One of them became a regular and would stay with me 2-3 days at the time whenever I visited. Had the same experience at other Latin American cities. Treat them right, it goes a long way.[/QUOTE]TEFS that's funny.
Continues on with my point that girls stay longer or accept lower prices at certain times for many reasons just depends on the girl, her vibe with you and how much she needs the money at the time (remembering the girls are very short sighted, if the bill ain't due tomorrow they don't seem concerned).
Another example for Bogota's logbook, in Rio February 3 at precisely 259 pm an escort from hotside shows up at my hotel. Fake name Thai, real name Isabella. We talk, hang out then we fuck and take showers and then sit on my bed and go through music we both like on my iPad and the hour is up. I ask her if she wants something to drink and share my acai (with granola Bogotan) that I had bought earlier. She takes a water and we continue listening to different songs we like and finally at 5 pm she asks if I want to fuck her again for another hour but it will cost more. I say sorry I am too tired and she leaves at 515 pm. Girl was having a good time and stayed longer.
Another example for Senor Bogotan. Was 2010 and was one of my summer trips to Medellin mansion that year. Please forgive me Bogotan for not knowing the exact date or time nor her fake name but it did start with a V. Well I was building rapport with the girl by the pool. She seemed into it and was fun and dancing and laughing at my stupid jokes, I gave her some alcohol I had brought out to the table by the pool. We head upstairs and I'm sure I'm going to have a great session. She is hot, I've built up the rapport and it was a fucking disaster! She went for a CBJ and that might have been the highlight of the session. So moral of the story-- You win some, you lose some.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1916718]Con gusto= with pleasure.
Es un gusto conocerlo = is a pleasure to meet you.
Si desea con gusto = if you wish it will be a pleasure.
No, they are not asking you for sex, they are just being polite and showing interest to go out or whatever you ask.
Que gusto fue verte ayer = what a pleasure was to see you yesterday.
Con gusto podemos salir = with pleasure we can go out.
Get it?[/QUOTE]Those are great phrases to use, good call!
Will be in Bogota Aug 7-13 if you feel like putting them to use! Shoot me a msg. Late 20's, pretty experienced monger doing BOG and MDE the week after for the first time apiece.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1916646]All I did was say girls can be tempted by many different things to change their normal operating procedure and turn a ST into a TLN for not much more.
I was only pointing out sometimes where the girls into account. You took that as an insult or something? Getting all fired up about that huh? "do me a favor Soldierb11" jajajajaj. If that is all it takes to get under your skin it will be interesting to see when someone actually disagrees with you.
The two examples that I gave that you crave the exact details for-.
1- Solarium in Rio, date Feb 19 her fake name was Jessica, real name Renata. She stays all night with me instead of going back to her place in nova iguacu a couple hours away. So she saved herself the two hours of going home that night and the 2 hours to go back to solarium the next day and then spent it at beach with me. You asked Bogotan what was the time? What do you want bro? The time I entered her for the first time? The time we finished and she could've gone home? The time we did it after the beach? The time she left to return to work?
2- the girl from Bogota was seen in piscina, her fake name I have no idea what it is, when she showed up at reception her real name was Kelly. Date was January 29 or 30. Again what time are you looking for? Time she entered the W or time she left the next day? Time she wrapped her lips around my dick?[/QUOTE]I'm glad you point that out. The thing is that La piscina is one of the most expensive places at the Red Light District. If it was January 30, it was a Saturday night, that place is always having a slow night at 9:00 pm, I'll buy it if you had sex before with her, bought a few drinks at the brothel and then took Kelly back to the hotel after the place was closed, I'm trying to meet you half way, it's just to difficult. So it wasn't the whole night.
If it was on a Sunday (January 31), it's even more difficult to believe, did you read my original post? At 1:00 am at Fiebre a woman asked for 300000 to stay for 5 hours. I only get pissed if people lie, since we're talking about Bogota, what's Rio got to do with this conversation, so countless times paying 150 000 for the whole night in Bogota actually means 0 times. Now that we're clear on the fact that you're lying, I'm laughing hahahahaha, thank you, hahajaha.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1916751]TEFS that's funny.
Continues on with my point that girls stay longer or accept lower prices at certain times for many reasons just depends on the girl, her vibe with you and how much she needs the money at the time (remembering the girls are very short sighted, if the bill ain't due tomorrow they don't seem concerned).
Another example for Bogota's logbook, in Rio February 3 at precisely 259 pm an escort from hotside shows up at my hotel. Fake name Thai, real name Isabella. We talk, hang out then we fuck and take showers and then sit on my bed and go through music we both like on my iPad and the hour is up. I ask her if she wants something to drink and share my acai (with granola Bogotan) that I had bought earlier. She takes a water and we continue listening to different songs we like and finally at 5 pm she asks if I want to fuck her again for another hour but it will cost more. I say sorry I am too tired and she leaves at 515 pm. Girl was having a good time and stayed longer.
Another example for Senor Bogotan. Was 2010 and was one of my summer trips to Medellin mansion that year. Please forgive me Bogotan for not knowing the exact date or time nor her fake name but it did start with a V. Well I was building rapport with the girl by the pool. She seemed into it and was fun and dancing and laughing at my stupid jokes, I gave her some alcohol I had brought out to the table by the pool. We head upstairs and I'm sure I'm going to have a great session. She is hot, I've built up the rapport and it was a fucking disaster! She went for a CBJ and that might have been the highlight of the session. So moral of the story-- You win some, you lose some.[/QUOTE]Again man, stick to Bogota, so what you actually do is treat a woman with respect as we all do and then instead of respecting her by giving her a bit more money, you take advantage of her because you're stingy. It's obvious that if you treat a person better they'll be nicer to you, still, I don't see any TLN for 150 000, all I read is about boring experiences of a guy with prostitutes in many cities, go to those sex forums and tell your boring experiences there, stick to Bogota.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1916723]And sometimes is as simple as the way you treat them. Had a couple of girls that work on the north side that stayed with me not only TLN but TEFS (todo el fin de semana = all weekend haha) without even asking for money (gave them 500 K at the end and were very happy). One of them became a regular and would stay with me 2-3 days at the time whenever I visited. Had the same experience at other Latin American cities. Treat them right, it goes a long way.[/QUOTE]Can I ask you something? A prostitute gets paid for sex, right? An escort gets paid for company and sex, right? If two girls stay with you for the TEFS without asking for money, are they still escorts or prostitutes at that moment? You made it clear that you treat women very nicely, I'm guessing you buy them a few drinks, make them laugh, buy them breakfast, lunch, dinner, all of that. Isn't it possible that you treat them too well and that sends the wrong message to them? Wouldn't it be cheaper to date?
Thanks, that is very helpful. It is easy to get the wrong message using translating apps!
Cheers (mucho gracias!
GT.
[QUOTE=Toreador;1916718]Con gusto= with pleasure.
Es un gusto conocerlo = is a pleasure to meet you.
Si desea con gusto = if you wish it will be a pleasure.
No, they are not asking you for sex, they are just being polite and showing interest to go out or whatever you ask.
Que gusto fue verte ayer = what a pleasure was to see you yesterday.
Con gusto podemos salir = with pleasure we can go out.
Get it?[/QUOTE]
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So I was trolling in Santa Fe and out of no where this super cute 18 yo white Colombian brunette. Super cutie! Walked up. Wanted 40 mil. She was real sweet petite hard body-- I asked if she Would 'Chupa sin Condom' She said Si! And we went into the hotel next to California Whiskeria. Super hot session!
Love it when I get that kind of action. The intense sex is hard to find that cheap! I'm older 53-- Does this girl have daddy issues? I'm glad to help her out!
So Sarita is going to be around for a month before she goes back to Armenia.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1918191]So I was trolling in Santa Fe and out of no where this super cute 18 yo white Colombian brunette. Super cutie! Walked up. Wanted 40 mil. She was real sweet petite hard body-- I asked if she Would 'Chupa sin Condom' She said Si! And we went into the hotel next to California Whiskeria. Super hot session!
Love it when I get that kind of action. The intense sex is hard to find that cheap! I'm older 53-- Does this girl have daddy issues? I'm glad to help her out!
So Sarita is going to be around for a month before she goes back to Armenia.[/QUOTE]I forgot to mention. She has super cute large B cups. This girl gave me great BBBJ. Letting me gag her good. Good times! I will be Seeing her soon!
You wouldn't happen to have gotten her whatsapp contact would you? I'm in Bogota until Friday. Last night I called an agency and saw Tatiana ([URL]http://bogota.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/las-mas-calientes-y-hmedas-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]-te-cumplirn-todas-tus-fantasas/3402343[/URL]), she is the one in the black panties with her butt facing you and the one taking a selfie. It was 160 K for 1 hour, definitely GFE lots and lots of kissing! She has a fantastic body, her face is cute but you can tell she is getting older. She offered to come back tonight without the agency all night for 250 K, I would take her up on it but I sleep with 1 woman in the states here I want to play.
Hi Woodman,
Would you be willing to share her contact info?
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This is Laura she works near 23 d and 15th at the new hotel she's from Pereira. She comes into town like every other month- GFE $60 mil for me anyhow.
[QUOTE=ldao;1918359]You wouldn't happen to have gotten her whatsapp contact would you? I'm in Bogota until Friday. Last night I called an agency and saw Tatiana ([URL]http://bogota.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/las-mas-calientes-y-hmedas-[url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900][CodeWord900][/url]-te-cumplirn-todas-tus-fantasas/3402343[/URL]), she is the one in the black panties with her butt facing you and the one taking a selfie. It was 160 K for 1 hour, definitely GFE lots and lots of kissing! She has a fantastic body, her face is cute but you can tell she is getting older. She offered to come back tonight without the agency all night for 250 K, I would take her up on it but I sleep with 1 woman in the states here I want to play.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Now. I don't want to share. At least until she Pisses me off. But there's hotties out there. Happy hunting.
I may contract her for some photos as I shoot girls sometimes for Score Group, so Hopefully will have those soon.
I was in BOG for work earlier this week and was free on Tues night so I decided to check out Pussy House in Chapinero. Located on a side street which looks kind of unsafe. But once inside, there is a long stage (2 strippers performing while I was there), a bar, and many tables and short couches. About 10-15 other girls were walking around or seating chatting / drinking with guys when I entered. 1st floor is main area, 2nd floor is a disco (not crowded), 3rd and 4th floors are where there are rooms for fun.
I watched the dancers from a small couch in the back for a while and did not see anything very good until after about 20 minutes, a half Asian / Latina spinner (Laura) sat at a couch with some other girls and a guy. She is early 20's and I soon caught her eye and motioned her over. My Spanish is decent so we talked for a while. I was drinking a 5 K peso beer; she ordered one from the waiter and hers was 15 K pesos (imagine that- still very cheap though). After some conversation, I asked how things worked upstairs. I wanted 30 minutes but she said only 20 minutes is allowed. She wanted 80 K but we settled on 70 K for 20 minutes for oral and sex with a cover. I initially asked for oral sin preservative, but she said no everything is with preservative. We also exchanged WhatsApp while we were talking earlier. Once we agreed on price we walked to the bar, I paid the bartender, who wrote Laura's name in a ledger and on a small sticky note and gave her one condom. Laura and I went upstairs to 4th floor where there was a young man that took the sticky note, wrote her name in another ledger, and asked for a tip. I thought WTF, why should he get a tip?? But I had a 2 K bill so I gave it to him and Laura and I entered a basic room with a poor excuse for a bed and a mirror on the ceiling. We had just finished after 15 minutes, when the guy knocks on the door. She went to use the bathroom while I dressed. We walked downstairs together and then I left.
If I ever go back I will use the facilities there but contact a girl via WhatsApp and have her come to me.
Just landed. Inbox me to show me the way!
What's the average 1 hour rate for GFE including BBBJ for:
Indies?
Escorts?
Brothels?
I know it all depends on your negotiation skills and your game. But wanted to ask personal experiences.
Good to see theres some hope for that down there. Used it on and off in the states. With some success, and some flakes as well.
Can be fun, but as you said its a lot more work.
[QUOTE=Gimmedub;1830207]So I've sprouted for a SA account in Oct and more recently mid-Dec. Before I share my experiences I think it's worthwhile to also share a bit
That said SA takes a lot of work to weed through the crap. I'd say the 8's-10's are on there expecting big money 500 mil+ for a few hours but they start out even higher like iPhones or shopping. My response is good f-ing luck as we're not on the same planet. The 6's-8's who are in the mid-20's can make it worthwhile and here's my experiences:
I've collected a few more whatsapp #'s of those who expect 200-300 mil for a few hours but it's clear they're pros while I was hoping for a more exclusive non-pro mistress type arrangement.
Would I spend more time / money on SA. Probably not as I think I can spend the same amount of time hunting in Santa Fe or Chapinero where I know it's 60 k (or less). That said unicorns may exist and that 9. 5 who wants to be only with you and expects 200 mil for the night is out there.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;1926594]What's the average 1 hour rate for GFE including BBBJ for:
Indies?
Escorts?
Brothels?
I know it all depends on your negotiation skills and your game. But wanted to ask personal experiences.[/QUOTE]GFE can go for $40 M to $500 M + It depends on how the girl feels about you. So-- there are no hard numbers-- I live here I Know.
Awesome Best list I have ever seen. You should open a business as a tour guide. At a minimum I will treat you to a night at one of your favorite when I come in town.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.
I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!
Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.
- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.
- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.
- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.
- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.
- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.
- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.
- In terms of attitude, genuine passion and tenderness, Colombia comes first.
I used to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene to the other cities in Colombia, Medellin has the fame of the most beautiful girls in Colombia, but they are far too artificial with fake tits, boobs and low personality. The Medellin scene is also way smaller with way less options than the Bogota scene. The Cartagena scene is another option only for the beach, the safety and the touristic options available. When it comes to pure mongering, the scene is small, the girls are less beautiful, more expensive and spoiled due tourism.
[B]HOW TO GO[/B]
Most nationalities are allowed to stay 3 months without visa in Colombia with a possible 3 additional months. There is no mandatory vaccination except yellow fever if you intend to travel to the Amazone.
From Europe to Bogota, there are daily flights with Air France from Paris, KLM from Amsterdam, Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Iberia and Avianca from Barcelona and Madrid. This year 2 new airlines will start, Turkish Airlines but more interesting the low cost airline Air Europa.
From the Americas, Avianca, Copa, LAN will connect any Latin American country and the USA to Bogota as well as major Caribbean Islands. American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta have all direct flights to Bogota from the USA, as well as Air Canada from Canada, Aeromexico from Mexico, La Cubana from La Havana, Avior and Conviasa from Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas from Buenos Aires.
There are no direct flights between Colombia and Asia or Africa.
Don't forget to bring a coat even if Colombia is on the Equator, as Bogota is at 2600 m and temperature drops to 10see at night. Don't forget also to learn a bit of Spanish before to go, as most Colombians don't speak English.
[B]MONEY[/B]
The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300.
000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 400 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.
Minimum salary is 240 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.
[B]SAFETY AND HEALTH[/B]
For any emergency, call 123. Each neighborhood has a CAI, a local Police station.
Bogota has excellent private clinics as long as you can pay for it. If you have a health issue, I would recommend [URL]www.miclinicavip.com.co[/URL] CL. 97 #23-10,tel. (1) 7452727 as they are specialized in foreigner without local medical insurance.
Viagra and Cialis is available in any pharmacy without prescription.
Colombia used to be the most dangerous country in the world, but Pablo Escobar is dead, peace has been signed with the FARC, crimes and kidnaps have dropped drastically, Bogota being now in the average of South American cities of similar size, which is still high of course. Kidnap and crime is definitely not an issue anymore as long as you are not involved in politics and drugs.
Petty crime is the major issue nowadays. As soon as you arrive, put all your valuable belongings in a safe and keep only a photocopy of your passport and cash for the day. It's OK to walk in the street by night in the Norther Area (roughly between Calle 67 and Calle 153 between Autopista / Caracas and the mountains) but always use a taxi by night outside this area.
Foreign tourists are king in Colombia, police will never bother you as long as you are not involved in drugs of course. Crime is not targeting tourists and most Colombians will have a safe look on tourists in order that nothing will happen to them.
[B]WHERE TO STAY[/B]
Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly, there might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.
Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: [URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL], full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.
In order to avoid roaming cost and to allow the girls to contact you, best is to buy a local prepaid SIM card (Movistar or Claro) for 20 000 (or 90 000 including cellphone). Additional minutes can be bought at any Carulla or Exito store.
If you don't want to bring your girl at your own hotel room, this is a great love motel: [URL]www.amartesuite.com[/URL] Calle 62 #14-19. Actually there are dozens of love motel in the same block offering rooms with hourly.
Rate. Problem is that love motels respect privacy and will not ask for ID. For your own safety, don't bring a girl here from the street or from internet that has not been registered in a club or agency.
[B]LOCAL TRANSPORT[/B]
Local transport is a nightmare: traffic jams, overcrowded buses. If you are in Bogota just for a few days, easiest is to take the yellow taxis, a trip will cost you between 6000 and 12 000,20 000 for the airport.
If you start to get around, you can try the Transmilenio a bus system with stations as a metro system. A ticket is 2 000 and will bring you anywhere in the city.
I will not recommend to rent a car, it's expensive and traffic is too difficult even with a GPS. In addition you need to find every time a parking which will cost same as a taxi.
Directions are easy as streets and avenues have numbers. The mountain chain will indicate the east direction. From there, parallel to the mountain chain start the Carrera, 0 being the mountain chain, numbers increasing westward. The Calles start in the historic center, increasing going north. They increase also going south, with an additional S to indicate it's in the southern area of the city. A Diagonal is a Calle just that it's not exactly parallel to the others, and a Transversal is a Carrera that is not exactly parallel. Carrera 24 # 40-20 means that the direction is on Carrera 24 at 20 meters from intersection with Calle 40.
[B]ESCORTS[/B]
OK, you have just arrived in Bogota after a long flight, check-in at you hotel, shower, but it's already the evening and too lazy to go out. Easiest is to call an escort. Find hereafter the escort sites, all agencies:
[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/[/URL]
[URL]www.eroticservicesbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsbogota.com.co/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.angeleslatinasescort.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amadax.co[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagosbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]www.class-models.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.mujeresbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-bogota-escorts-vip[/URL]
Can't really recommend anyone, as it all depends of the girl and I suspect most girls to be registered in several agencies, so it comes all to the same. Average price is 200 000 an hour. Needless to pay more, chances are the same girl will appear. Yes, you will rarely have the girl form the picture. It's not a rip off, but simply at the moment that you call, they have no idea who is available. Once you called, they will try to reach the girl and at the end send the girl they can contact. But don't worry, the girl will be as beautiful and as young as the picture and will give excellent GFE service including often DFK and BBBJ. Take care also to pay afterwards, not upfront.
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/[/URL] is an internet site with adds. You will find here some independent girls, but most adds will bring you back again to agencies. You will also find escorts advertising on Twitter and even through Tinder, but for your safety take care that she will go through a hotel desk where she needs to show ID.
[B]MASSAGE PARLORS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Next day, you slowly start to get around the hotel. There are several day options in Zona Norte, all massage parlors. They are all in safe and discrete locations without sign, 3-4 girls in a line up, prices between 40 000 and 150 000 for a massage, 80 000 up to 300 000 for a poor massage with fair sex including BJ, often on an uncomfortable massage table sometimes a bed. Payment is upfront. Most girls are beautiful but already with some mileage in my books, average age is 30-35 years. It's therefore not my favorite scene, but excellent if you are looking for a safe, relaxed and discrete scene. Anyway, entrance is free, so don't hesitate to visit several of them before making up your choice. Take out is usually not offered.
If you don't want to lose your time in visiting, just try my best recommendation: Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. It's a building with some stores at first level and a mezzanine above these stores. Just take the stairs to the mezzanine and you will find half a dozen of massage parlors with tinted windows and a number on the door. Most doors are half open with a girl at the entrance to invite you in. The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 40 000 for a massage and 80 000 for massage with sex. Each massage parlor has 3-4 young and above average girls, so plenty of choice.
The other massage parlors from North till South:
- [B]Abejitas[/B] Avenida Suba #103 b-73. [URL]http://www.abejitasmasajes.com/.[/URL] Open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, for sex 100 000/30 min and 180 000/60 min. 3-4 girls.
- [B]Princesita[/B] Av. Carrera 15 #116-59, Apt 202. Open every day except Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, 80 000 for massage with sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Loutron[/B] [URL]http://loutroncolombia.com/loutron-colombia.html[/URL] Carrera 11 A # 98-49. Open every day except Sunday from 12 am till 10 pm. It's by far the most upscale massage parlor. Great facilities, 4-5 girls make a line up as if they are top models on high heels and bikini. They are impressive at first sight, but at second look they have all fake boobs and too artificial for my taste. Pricing is 150 000 for massage and 300 000 for sex.
- [B]Absolut Spa [/B]Carrera 16 # 80-66.20 [URL]http://www.absolutspa.com[/URL] Open from 10 am till 8 pm every day except Saturday. Pricing 40 000 for massage, 80 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.
- [B]Colorin Spa [/B]Carrera 14 #79-70 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 9. 30 pm from Monday till Saturday, from 10 am till 5 pm on Sunday. Pricing 120 000/30 min and 160 000/60 min. 8 above girls.
-[B] Avispita[/B] Carrera 14 #79-62, at the second floor. [URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing 185 000 including sex. 2-3 above girls.
-[B] Apertua Via Spa[/B] Carrera 13 a # 79-71 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 10 pm. Pricing 180 000.2-3 above girls.
- [B]Sensity[/B] Calle 78 #13 a 20. Pricing is 180 000 including sex. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. From Monday till Saturday. 8 girls.
[B]EXCLUSIVE CLUBS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Night time, time for some more serious action! As you made a long trip to get here, you just are looking for the best that Bogota has to offer. Good news, the best clubs are in the Northern Area close to your hotel and each club is at walking distance of the next, although walking from the first south to the last north would be too far. They are the typical nightclubs rooms for sex. Also most have podiums with pole dance, there are seldom strip shows. Except Porky, the clubs have no signs, but obvious bouncers at the door indicate that there is a club. Here is where you will find the hottest girls in Bogota and of course also the most expensive. Average age between 20 and 30, very good looking and nicely dressed. There is usually a 150 000 fee for the club to go to the room or to leave the club with the girl, the rest is to negotiate directly with the girl, around 200 000 to 400 000 for a shorty and 300 to 600 000 for all night. For local standards, these prices are way over rated, but then again compared to what you would pay in USA or Europe for an escort, it's still a good deal as girls are very hot and service is excellent.
If you are just for a short trip to Colombia, an all nighter is definitely my recommendation as once back in Europe or USA it's virtually impossible to pay for making love all night with a young top model looking girl. What makes the service so good with all night? Well, first, the girl is not in her brothel territory but in your territory, she doesn't want to take the risk to deal with an unsatisfied customer while more vulnerable. Second, being out of the brothel environment, it helps both to forget that the relation is within a business agreement as Colombianas have a natural trend to be tender and sweet. Third, that night you will be her only client and sex partner, some nights she even has any client, she therefore will give the best of her. And last, payment is not upfront but when she leaves. That night she will be your girlfriend and risk is high to forget she is just a pro.
Only problem of these clubs apart from the high prices is the harassment of the crew to make you drink, you and the girl. Once you have ordered a bottle, pressure drops, but please check pricing before ordering. All these clubs have clear prices advertised, but prices are overrated at least for local standards. May be throwing big money in expensive clubs surrounded by beautiful girls is your idea of fun. I would.
Rather recommend to just take a glass, chose quickly a girl and get out of the club in order to keep the money for the sex.
There are no cover fees to get in these clubs; they are all in a walking distance from one another and in a safe area even at night. Most probably you will be spotted by some local dude that get a small commission to bring a customer to a club and that will bring you from one club to another. They will not really harass you, are not dangerous and at least will show you around all the existing clubs. These clubs start to open at 7 pm and close at 3 am every day.
Walking from South to North:
- [B]El Padrino[/B] Carrera 14 # 81-10. Tel. 320 425 7750. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/clubelpadrinointernacional/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. Impressive line-up, 40 very hot girls, no cover, pricing for the room or exit fee is 180 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Porkys [/B]Calle 83 #14 A-28. Tel 314 371 8000 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Porkys-Club...8361188396084/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. 40 very hot girls, no cover, exit fee 185 000, the girl will ask 200 000- 300 000 for a short time and 3000 000- 600 000 for all night. There are no rooms in the club, but the club has a hotel nearby at additional price. This club got some problems a while ago as employees ripped off clients with their credit card.
-[B] Lewinski [/B]Carrera 14 # 85-17. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This a smaller bar compared to the others. There are just half a dozen girls, but why not throw a look as entrance is free. There are no rooms inside and exit fee is 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]La Piscina del Norte [/B]Calle 86 A # 14-45, a black house easily to spot. Open daily from 7 pm till 3 am. Don't expect a swimming pool as you might fin dit in a FKK, it's just a decor pool. 30 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]VIP [/B]Calle 86 a # 14-57 next door of la Piscina del Norte, smaller and cheaper facilities. 15 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
- [B]Red Garden[/B] Calle 86 A # 13 A-44. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. It's just lower class bar compared to the others, but it's just in front of the 2 former clubs, so why not have a look. There are just half a dozen girls way less beautiful than in the other clubs in the area. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 200 000- 400 000 for all night. Very few customers here, you can easily negotiate down the prices.
- [B]Lalo's:[/B] Cr 15 # 88-33. This is the most popular club, here you will find the best choice in term of looks and quantity. Impressive line-up, some 40 very sexy girls. It's also the most expensive one. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 165 000 for the room or for exit fee. Girls ask 200 000- 400 000 for a short time and 400 000- 800 000 for all night, as they have to pay daily 100 000 to the club.
- [B]Juan Pablo Zhivago [/B]Carrera18 and. 93 46. Open daily except Sunday from 7 pm till 3 am. Tel, 616 47 74. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago/.[/URL] This is my favorite club, as it's the only one that understands that clients don't want to be harassed by a crew of waiters in smoking. Therefore it's a popular club for Asian expats ready to spend money as long as it's in a safe and quiet environment. As it cutters to Asians, they have even Karaoke rooms, but no rooms for sex. No cover, no strip-tease shows, no one to harass you to sit on a table, to drink or to be with a girl. There are only 15 girls, but due to the quiet environment, it's here that you have most chance to find a truly occasional student just trying to pay her college. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Lido [/B]Carrera 14 # 95-33. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. This club disappeared from the radar when they built a building on the former location. The new location is just a block away from the historic one. Open daily from 6 pm till 6 am. High end and large facilities, 30 hot girls. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
- [B]Punto G[/B] Carrera 15 #95-80. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. It's a new club, a block away from Lido. Just 10 girls, probably because they just start in the business, but the club has potential. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night.
-[B] Lancaster[/B] Carrera 15 #106-58. Tel 520 68 19 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/people/Lancaster-Paris/100008354311188.[/URL] This club also disappeared from the radar when they closed their location in Calle 90, but they opened again much Northern. Open from Monday till Saturday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 160 000 for take out or for the room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night. There are only 10 girls, not really worth the visit as it's also further away from the rest of the clubs.
- [B]OZ Club[/B] Calle 74#20-39 [URL]www.ozclub.com.co[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This one is not in the Northern Area anymore, but it's a high end club, at least regarding the pricing. At first I believed it was just a "barra why tanga" and that no sex was offered, but yes they do. 20 000 cover and for this you get a private strip show, although there are also public strip shows. The facilities are nice, but there are only 10 girls. Pricing for sex is to be negotiated with the girl, but expect 200 000 including the room. There is also take out, bar fine is 140 000 and the girl will probably ask 200 000 till 400 000 for all night.
[B]DAY BROTHELS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
After a night full of action, you start to get used to the city and are looking for a more local exotic scene than the high scale clubs catering for tourists and wealthier locals. You don't need to wait till the evening; there is a great day scene of small brothels in Chapinero at very low cost price. This scene is basically on Avenida Caracas between Calle 72 north and calle 53 south. On this 2 km long axis, there is a convenient Transmilenio. Chapinero is a popular neighbor with a lot of students and small businesses, quiet and safe during day time.
My good friend Zing23 did a great investigation job in this scene when he stayed a couple of months in Bogota and World Travel 69 did a great job as usual for updating his map.
All these brothels open daily between 9 am and 9 pm, a lot are closed on Sunday. Pricing? Hard to believe, but between 20 000 and 30 000, which means between 7 and 10 $! Ugly girls? Not at all! Most are young girl next door (well next door if you live in Colombia of course!) between 20 and 30 years old, working on daytime as working at night is always more difficult to explain to family. What is the counterpart of all that good news? There is no! A great scene for the mongerer looking for unlimited sex as cost is not an issue anymore.
I have listed the brothels from north to south as you can easily and safely walk from one brothel to another, visiting the neighborhood, hop from one pussy to another. The brothels have all the same type of facilities: a bar with cheap drinks, a line-up of half a dozen girls, no cover, no pressure to enter or to leave, rooms in the venue. Facilities are cheap but clean. There are usually no showers available however for the customer.
Hard to recommend specific place, as it all depends of the girl of course not of the brothel. If you take your time to visit the different places, you can find some real gems. The basic service includes total nude, BJ, multiple position sex. If you chose the option of additional time (30 min or 60 min instead of 20 min), you might expect more than just a quickie: BBBJ, DFK and GFE if there is some chemistry with the girl.
Take out is usually not offered and most girls will decline meetings in the evening as they have chosen this scene because they can't work during night time for personal reasons.
If I have to recommend one, it would be Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24. It's also the only one that is open daily day and night, from 9 am till 3 am. It's also the one with most girls, between 10 and 15 on a shift. It is also one of the most expensive whatever it means: 30 000 pour 20 min, 40 000 pour 30 min. If you want to visit only one, it should be that one. Chicas 2000 is just in front, worth to visit also.
When walking from one brothel to another, you will start to recognize the houses that are brothels: no signs, no rooms, but an open door with a guard at the entrance. There are also a couple of dudes in the street that will spot you and hand you over ID cards with addresses of a brothels.
Find here after the list from North to South:
- [B]Tantra [/B]Carrera 20 #72-30. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Princing massage+sex 40 000/20 min 60 000/30 min. 80 000/ trio. 5 girls.
-[B] Alcazares [/B]Carrera 26 #71 B-61. Open from 9 am till 7 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 42 000/30 mn. 4 Girls.
- [B]Chicas Milenio[/B] Calle 71 #14 A-24. Open from 9 am till 2 am every day. Pricing 30 00/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Chicas 2000[/B]Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Bar La 70 [/B]Carrera 17 # 70 A-80 [URL]www.paradise-bogota.com[/URL] . Open daily from 8 am till 9 pm. Pricing 25 000/20 min 30 000/30 min. A great place to hang around, 8 girls.
- Calle 68 #17-85. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. Only 4 average girls.
- [B]Acuarius [/B]Carrera 19 #67-93. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 4 average girls.
- [B]Video Bar[/B] Carrera 19 # 67-47. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 3 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]La Bonita [/B]Carrera 15 #67-24. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 25 000/20 min and 30 000/30 min. 6 girls.
-[B] Tantra [/B]alle 67 # 15-10. Nice White House but with only 4 average girls. Open from 9 am till 8 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min.
-[B] Las Vegas Club[/B] Calle 67 # 16-23. Nice night Club facilities with rooms. Open from 9 pm till 9 pm every day. 10 girls.
-[B] Bar Las Divas[/B] Carrera 17 # 66-32. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- Carrera 17 # 66-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. 3 average girls and pricing is to be negotiated. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Bless Bar [/B]Carrera 15 #66-22. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Palmeras Real[/B] Carrera 15 # 66-17. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min, 32 000/30 min and 64 000/60 min. 10 young and nice girls.
- [B]La Mansion del Placer[/B] Carrera 16 #65-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 60/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 66 # 17-08. A new place Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min and 50 000/30 min. Only 2 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]Lottus Bar [/B]Calle 65 # 13-61.
- [B]Gaticas[/B] Av. Caracas # 64-36. Open daily from 9 am till 11 pm, pricing is 30 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 65 000/60 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Bar Reservado "La 64" [/B]Calle 64 #15-30. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 64#15-18 Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]El Paraiso[/B]Carrera 15 # 63-26. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Palmira[/B]Calle 63 # 16 A-42. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min. 5 girls.
- [B]112 Masajes [/B]Calle 62 #13-31. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 60 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min. Just two average girls, not worth the price.
- [B]El Tercer Piso [/B]Calle 61 A # 13 A-39. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Sex on the Way [/B]Carrera 9 #57-76. Open daily from 10 am till 8 pm. Clean facilities and 9 girls, but way more expensive than the others. 60 000/20 min, 90 000/30 min and 120 000/60 min.
- [B]Lewinski Bar[/B] Calle 57 #9-35. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. Clean facilities, 6 girls.
- [B]Alisch Spa [/B]Carrera 17 # 53-36. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. There is sauna and Jacuzzi available. 4 girls.
[B]NIGHT CLUBS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
You are looking for a night brothel, don't want any more the high end clubs from the Northern Area with overrated prices, but don't want also to take risks in the infamous Zona de Tolerencia, here a great advice, there are 2 great night clubs in the Chapinero area: Pussy House and La 49. I always had very good experiences here, expect good service.
[B]Pussy House [/B]Calle 61 #13-64. Open from 5 pm till 2 am from Monday till Saturday. No cover. The neighborhood looks unsafe, no sign, but everything looks better once inside. The first floor is a stripclub with pole dance, bar, you shaped sofas. The second floor is a nightclub where couple dance on salsa music. Rooms are in the third and fourth floor. There are 30 to 50 girls between 20 and 30 years old. No cover, cheap drinks, 120 000 for an exit fee but most go to the room, pricing is 70 000/30 min. A private strip dance is 40 000. As drinks are cheap, you can stay here, drink and have fun all night, no need to worry for the final bill. It's a popular club and there are a lot of clients on Friday and Saturday.
There are a few low level night clubs in the area taking advantage of the popularity of Pussy House.
- [B]Las Divas [/B]Calle 61 # 13-81, just in front of Pussy House. Open daily from 1 pm till 2 am. A strip club with some rougher atmosphere. No cover. There are some 20 average girls here, not at the level of Pussy house.
- [B]Salome [/B]Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
- [B]Nueva Pasarela [/B]Calle 64 # 13-73. Open daily except Sunday from 5 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
-[B] Innova Pasarela[/B] Calle 62 #13-46. More a night club than a day brothel, open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 5 girls.
- Calle 62 #13-46. Open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
[B]La Forty Nine (La 49)[/B] Carrera 13 # 49-77 tel. +57 tel. (1) 2888773 [URL]http://fortynineclub.com/.[/URL] It's a monument in Bogota, with its kitsch facilities easy to recognize on Carrera 13, several movies have been shot here. It has better facilities than Pussy House and is also more expensive. Night club with pole dance and strip shows in the main floor, restaurant and rooms in the basement, mezzanine with a great view on the entire club and more rooms on the second floor. No cover. There are 30 girls between 20 and 30 years old. As prices are higher than Pussy House, there are less customers: 120 000/30 min in the room. It's still a great option compared to the more expensive northern clubs or the less safer clubs in Zona de Tolerencia.
Again here there are a couple of clubs in the neighborhood taking advantage of the notoriety of la 49. The most obvious is the next door club, as you might easily enter the wrong door. But once inside, it's obvious that it's not the notorious 49: poor facilities and just a couple of average girls. Other low level nightbars:
- Calle 49 # 13-70. Open from Monday till Saturday from 1 pm till 2 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- Calle 49 #13-98. Open from 10 am till 3 pm from Monday till Wednesday, from 9 am till 5 pm from Thursday till Saturday. No cover, strip show. 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]STREET ACTION IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
OK, you start to feel more comfortable with the Bogota scene, you are now ready for the infamous Zona de Tolerencia. It's not my favorite scene, but then again, it's not to be missed for a punter visiting Bogota as nowhere else in Colombia you will find so many sex workers per square meter.
Main problem of the zona de Tolerencia is that everything is tolerated, not only prostitution. There are some real creepy dudes here. It's always busy, there is always police in the area, it's not that you risk your live. But pickpockets, drunk dudes, a trans that start a scandal, claiming money for a blowjob he never gave. Enough possible experiences that might ruin your stay.
My advice would be to visit the area first during daytime and get used to the area. By night, don't walk outside the main block where there is police presence and bouncers. If you are drunk, you should definitely not walk outside, do everything with a taxi. Best would be anyway not to drink and have a wingman by night.
On daytime, you can easily take the Transmilenio and get out at station Calle 22. You will notice the building of La Piscina, Zona de Tolerencia is behind that building: Carrera 15,16 why 16 A between Calle 23 and 24.
Street action starts at 9 am and ends at 3 am. At peek time, there are probably 200 girls waiting in front of the numerous motels. Typical motels are Doll House, Las Vegas, El Encanto, Pasada Nare, Manizales.
There are also numerous smaller bars where girls hang out for a short time in the nearby motel.
Pricing is 20 000 till 30 000 plus 7 000 for the room. As the girls are waiting in front of motels or inside bars, you might easily mistake it for a brothel or a club. There is a huge difference however, the girls are not working for the motels or the bars, don't decline ID to them unlike what is happening in brothels and clubs. Therefore, robbing, rip off or simply bad service is much more likely with street action. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, some good looking. To be honest, I can't report about the service, but don't expect more than mechanic and unhygienic sex. I therefore won't advice this scene, as you can get much better service in a much safer environment for the same cost in the numerous day brothels of Chapinero.
There is also street action in the peripheral area of Zona de Tolerencia. Needless to say, don't walk in this area by night. South of the Zona de Tolerencia, which means between calle 23 and calle 19 is the TV and other monsters area. Be very careful here!
On the other side of Caracas, there is another street action area, on Carrera 13 why Carrera 13 A between Calle 24 and Calle 18. This is the area of the ugly old women. They usually wait in front of a house or a building's door. If this is your way of having fun, pricing are as low as 20 000. Again, I can't and don't want to report about quality of service.
[B]CLUBS IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
Apart from street action, the Zona de Tolerencia has the highest density of brothels and clubs of Bogota, you can literally have sex 24 hours a day 7 days a week, therefore it is very popular. It's not my favorite scene, girls who work here are hard core pro's. It's not exactly the place where you might find your shy innocent student working occasionally here to pay her bills. But then again, it's maybe not what you are looking for. If you are looking for your hot and nasty "bomba Latina" with fake boobs giving great PSE, here is the place to be. Average age between 20 and 30 years old.
The next issue is safety. Again, I would recommend to visit it first during day time. On night time, watch your back. Having said this, the clubs inside are safe, so it's perfectly safe to come and go with taxi and enter directly in any of the clubs. All clubs have rooms but there is also the option to go out for all night for 200 000 up to 400 000. I would however not suggest to come and look for your princess of the night in la Zona de Tolerencia, There are day clubs, nightclubs and even clubs that start after midnight when most clubs close till next morning when the first clubs open again.
The landmark is the famous [B]La Piscina[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/La-Piscina-...4720090119266/[/URL] Carrera 15 # 23-64, no cover. Open daily from 1 pm till 3 am. As it is on Caracas, you can actually access the club without even entering the Zona de Tolerencia. They have a private and safe parking lot. This is the most famous brothel of Colombia, several movies have been shot here. The swimming pool is a nice deco, but is not for using as. Nice and calm place with strip shows around the swimming pool and rooms upstairs. Nice girls also but usually the quantity is a bit disappointing, usually a dozen. Pricing is more than the other clubs, 120 000/30 min. You can actually exit on both side of the club, which is to say Caracas and Carrera 15, which is directly in the Zona de Tolerencia.
The best brothel of the Zona de Tolerencia however by far is [B]El Castillo[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/ElCatilloVipClub/[/URL] Calle 23 # 14-19. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am, no cover. You can't miss this club, with a huge kitsch sign, at the entrance of the Zona de Tolerencia, La Piscina being on the left side and el Castillo on the right side. Great facilities, impressive deco, a huge strip club on the main floor and nice rooms upstairs. Here there are up to 40 very hot girls, most with fake boobs however. It's also by far the most expensive of the Zona de Tolerencia, 150 000/30 min. The only downside of this place is the pushy staff in smoking similar on what happens in the high end clubs of Zona Norte. Drinks are pricey also here by the way, so check price list. Bust is to order a bottle and get rid of the pushy staff for the rest of the night and enjoy this place with impressive girls.
All other clubs are in a similar pricing range, 60 000/30 min, no cover. Most clubs have obvious signs and strip shows here the list of clubs in the order of the walking path to visit Zona de Tolerencia, starting from the entrance between la Piscina and El Castillo.
- [B]California Night Club [/B]Calle 23 #15-22. Open from Thursday till Saturday between 2 am and 10 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- Calle 23 # 16-02. Open daily between 3 pm and 2 am. A club on the corner. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B] Punto de Oro [/B]Carrera 16 #23-01, on the other corner. Open daily between 10 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
Here, turn right into Calle 16 A, the busiest street of Zona de Tolerencia secured and closed to traffic by night with police presence and bouncers.
- [B]Atunes[/B] Carrera 16 A # 23-19. This is the temporary location of Atunes, as the historical one on Carrera 16 a # 23-88 has been closed by authorities. As Atunes did a great job on the deco, there is even a huge aquarium, it looks like this temporary location might be for long term. Open daily between 10 a m and 10 am. No cover, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's probably the most popular brothel after El Castillo. It's also not so noisy and dark as the other clubs, a nice place to have a bear and relax.
- [B]Eclipse [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-32. It's one of the 4 after hour clubs. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Venus [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-43. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Fiebre Sex [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-50. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Fiebre-Sex-846028748743688/.[/URL] Open daily between 1 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Las Paisas [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-58. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paisas-Club/187764624697832.[/URL] Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Apollo [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-59. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
-[B]Guau Night Club [/B]Carrera 16 A # 69. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]La Casona [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-76. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Kiss[/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-89. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Atonys [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-88. Open daily between 12 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/30 min in the room. Actually it's the historic location of Atunes, started under new management.
Turn right on Calle 23 and again right on Carrera 16.
-[B]Troya [/B]Carrera 16 # 23-89. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Troya-Night-CLUB-343205905774849/.[/URL] Open daily between 2 pm and 3 pm. No cover, strip shows, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. One of the better clubs, on Friday and Saturday it's packed and there is a cover fee of 10 000 to limit the customers. Actually it has also an entrance on Carrera 16 A where there is a parking.
- [B]Lion [/B]Carrera 16 #23-51. Open daily between 3 pm and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room. It's a new club, it has potential to grow.
Around the Zona de Tolerencia, on the other side of the Transmilenio, there are a couple of other brothels just for the record. It's OK to visit on day time, on night I would not recommend this area. Anyway, they are also not worth it:
- Carrera 10 # 19-38. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/30 min in the room. 10 girls.
- Cara Show Carrera 8 #19-31 Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. No cover, strip show. Pricing si 40 000/30 min. 10 girls.
[B]CLUBS IN PRIMER DE MAYO[/B]
Although it's the second most important prostitution area of Bogota after the Zona de Tolerencia, no one had ever reported this scene on ISG until why accidentally discovered it when visiting a swinger club in the area. As usual, World Travel 69 did a great investigation job to update his map will all the brothels of this area.
Truth is that Primer de Mayo is far south of the city, but it's also the most important rumba area of Bogota after Zona T. The area however is way not as safe as Zona T as we are in the south of the city. Watch your back here, even if the area is busy on night time due to the numerous regular night clubs, casinos and bars.
All these brothels are strip clubs with obvious signs. However, the scene is confusing as it's not easy to make the difference between a brothel, a strip club without sex (called "barra why tanga' such as Midas, barra la you, Barra la Tanga, Tantalos, Tanga why Aroma, Faraonas). A regular disco and a gay club.
The scene is along Avenida Prime de Mayo between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali. A Milestone is the Mac Donald. Stay on the side of the Mac Donald, as on the other side of the boulevard is the gay sector and some can be aggressive.
Would I recommend it? Well, it's not my favorite scene, but if you like Zona de Tolerencia, you will like Primer de Mayo. The atmosphere in this neighborhood is different, there is no street action and day action but once in the clubs, facilities, girls and service are similar to Zona de Tolerencia, Angelos being the Castillo and Guadalajara being the Troya of Primer de Mayo. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, from average to nice. Service is mechanical, BBBJ and DFK are not included.
Starting from Carrera 68 to Avenida de Cali:
- [B]Los Angeles VIP [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #68 I-21, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. It's an upscale stripclub, no cover, open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. If facilities are great, there are only 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pasarela Show [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-28. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Coliseo Romano [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-30. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Fiebre [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-42. Open daily from 5 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show. 10 girls, pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Castle Blue [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-46. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Guadalajara [/B]Av 1 de Mayo #69 B-53, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strips show. One of the best, 20 girls. Pricing is 70 000/30 min in the room.
- [B]Pereira[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-16. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Angelos [/B][URL]http://www.angelos.com.co/[/URL] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-20. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow. The most upscale club in the area with impressive facilities. However just 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min.
- [B]Septimo Cielo [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-28. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
-[B] Azafatas[/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-58. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Moroco [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-69. On the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. No sign, just a door with stairs to the first floor. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
- [B]Happy Night [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-68. Open daily from 8 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/30 min.
[B]THE SWINGER SCENE[/B]
I lost interest in the mongering scene as paying for sex seems ridiculous when living in Colombia. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, and discovered the swinger scene of Bogota. The great thing about the swinger scene is that you have sex with women that really enjoy sex and don't do it just for the money.
I know most punters are not interested in swinging. But give it a try, instead of bringing your pro to a motel, go with her to a swinger club. You will not have sex only with her, but also with other women. Swinger clubs that are open to single men will usually throw a couple of single pro in the crowd so that sex is guaranteed even for single men. You should not be shy however for having sex in public, as the rooms are always open.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their clothes on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Fun for Colombians means not just sex, it means socializing together, making jokes, dancing and drinking. Atmosphere is therefore way better than in European swing clubs where people just fuck silently and I would say sadly.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
- [B]Spa SW[/B] [URL]http://swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted. The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed. Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action, mostly with clothes while the others are watching. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear. It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a couple of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most. The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient, the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals. The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that borrows me, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
-[B]Interspa[/B] [URL]www.intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted. It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
- [B]Europeo[/B] [URL]www.europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks. Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 2 others. What borrows me most is the ventilation problem and the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is that everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty. But here it comes, it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to fuck the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with water guns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
- [B]Zafiro[/B] [URL]www.zafirosclub-sw.com[/URL] Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open every day from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open every day also for single men. It's by far the biggest swing club, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
- [B]Monastery[/B] Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Open from Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 2. 30 am. 75 000 entrance with 40 000 for drinks. Credit cards are not accepted. The closest Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened with a new management. It is simply my preferred place to go with my novia, especially since they renewed it. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Same as Europeo, everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere looks like the one of Europeo, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small. Swing is however not as common as in Europeo but you will always find a couple that is willing to swing.
- [B]Theli y Luna [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69 02 [URL]https://twitter.com/theliyluna>[/URL] Open from Thursday till Saurday from 8. 30 pm till 2. 30 am. It's a black door right next the Mac Donald. Entrance is 70 000, facilities not at the level of the swingers club of Zona Norte of course. The atmosphere is very relaxed, 3 average working girls do their best that everybody socialize with everybody. It's a bit like a German partytreff more than a swinger club. Few other couple, most guests are single men fucking for free the working girls. Fucking 3 girls including the drinks for just 70 000, hard to find cheaper! The sex is very disappointing however, a quick mechanical fuck on street action level. Worth the unique experience however.
- [B]Piscina Normandie [/B]Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] Last, but not least, here is the best kept secret of Bogota. It's a regular swimming pool during the week end but a swinger club from Monday till Wednesday from 3 pm till 10 pm. I guess the mothers would be horrified to learn what is happening during the weekdays in that swimming pool where their children swim!
Monday 60 000 for couples or single men, Tuesday 60 00 for couples and 99 for single men, but sex guaranteed as there are working girls and Wednesday only couples for 69 000. Indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna, nice facilities. But best is the atmosphere, as Viviana does her best that everybody socializes together. She has each time new ideas: a colored wristband to indicate availability of the women: red is no, yellow is maybe and green open to anything! All the women together giving soap massage to each man, amazing so many female hands touching your body! Sometimes she organizes a unique event: inverse gang bang! A team of 6 girls gang banging each single man, a once in a lifetime experience!
Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff.[/QUOTE]
I arrived in Bogota with an Avianca flight from MEX on Friday, 19 August. Some weeks before the trip I had set up my profile on SeekingArrangements, a service I used with success in Mexico and was not disappointed: I met 3 young (21-23) chicas, all of them no / semi pros (students or single mothers) sweet, GFE and willing to satisfy my requests. I paid 300.000 COP for 6-8 hours or toda la noche.
Since I've read many questions about hotels in Bogota, I think it's useful to share specific info about my experience: I've stayed at Casa Dann Carlton on carrera 93 be #19-44. The hotel ISN'T girl friendly, but there is a way to by pass the problem. I checked in late at night and I was asked to provide the name of the person who was staying with me and when she arrived to spend the night she had to register with a valid ID. The next day I noticed that right after the entrance, on the left, there were 3 elevators that could take upstairs bypassing the reception. So I met the girls outside, on the street and walked with them to the elevators without being noticed or stopped by the guards. Obviously the chicas were dressed appropriately, in a sober and elegant way.
Hey guys,
I've took advice from this forum and changed my plans from a hotel to apartment.
I looked at Virrey but to small. I need a luxury 2 bedrooms large apartment that I can make some noise.
If anyone has advice please let me no. I'll be staying for 1 week in November.
Thanks.
Hi guys,
Doing my 1st Bogota trip, will be staying at the Viaggio teleport suites which based on the information I read its on a good area and walking distance from the high end nightclubs and restaurants. I have been to Medellin in 10 occasions these past two years so I thought I should try a new city for a change.
In the mongering subject it would seem that based on the info that Routard provided, I will deduce that the "Chapinero" area is like an El Centro equivalent to Bogota, for what it seems I will most likely do my dirty business there, and perhaps I may check out that no toleranzia zone to see if I find a diamond in the rough.
Now what about other non P4P stuff I can do? Like what normal nightclubs that are not brothels or places to find pros are good? Not just in the subject for getting laid but also the best to drink, installations, club environment, specials etc etc I like to go to clubs that are similar to lets say like Rio sur in Medellin.
What about touristic attractions? In Medellin they have parque Arby, or one could go San Jeronimo and enjoy its surrounding pueblitos and swimming pools, what does Bogota offer in that sense?
Finally the women, comparing Bogotians to Paisas, I cannot complain with Paisa. I noticed that in Medellin there is a lot of silicon, it does not reflect to the women, I found a lot of paisas to be very humble and down to earth chicks, maybe the only exception is that sometimes you might find your shallow women in el Poblado, though I don't find it to be that common, at least if we compare it to here to Miami it is not LOL. So can I expect those same positive qualities and attributes from a typical Bogota woman? Or perhaps maybe they are even more complacent than paisas?
Thanks for any info you all can provide me with. I will of course write a detailed and explicit report when I am done with said trip.
Medellin is nicer to live compared to Bogota, more organized city, better transport, better climate. However, Bogota is way bigger and has way more options than Medellin. Best place to go out by night is Zona T, plenty of bars, night clubs, restaurants, shopping malls etc. Irish Pub in Zona T is the typical expat bar, so here is also the place where girls who want to meet gringos come. Don't misunderstand me, it's not a semi-pro pick up place, girls are instead from upper class, have or want to travel abroad, speak or want to speak english and come here to remember the good time thay had or want to have in Europe or USA. Other incredible and unique place is Andres Carne de Res in Chia or Zona T, a must. A great place to relax during day time is Parque Virrey especially on Sunday when there is Ciclovia (roads closed to traffic and open only for pedestrians and bikes). As it's the park from the upper class neighborhood, here is where you will find the most beautiful girls of Bogota during daytime. As for touristic visits: Candelaria, the historc colonial city, Plaza Bolivar, the teleferico to Montserate with breastaking view over the city, Museo de Oro and Museo Nacional... Outside Bogota worth visits are the salt catedral of Zipaquira, the salto de Tequendama or Piscilago in Melgar, the biggest water park of Latin America. Melgar is some king of springbreak place where youth from Bogota come to have fun during week end as it's down the moutain with again tropical climate: swimming pools, hotesl, night clubs, fincas for rental etc...A great place to go out by night is Toni-K VIP as it's a high end open sky nightclub where all the girls are in shorts and Tshirts and end up drunk in the swimming pool.
[QUOTE=Routard;1933936]Medellin is nicer to live compared to Bogota, more organized city, better transport, better climate. However, Bogota is way bigger and has way more options than Medellin. Best place to go out by night is Zona T, plenty of bars, night clubs, restaurants, shopping malls etc. Irish Pub in Zona T is the typical expat bar, so here is also the place where girls who want to meet gringos come. Don't misunderstand me, it's not a semi-pro pick up place, girls are instead from upper class, have or want to travel abroad, speak or want to speak english and come here to remember the good time thay had or want to have in Europe or USA. Other incredible and unique place is Andres Carne de Res in Chia or Zona T, a must. A great place to relax during day time is Parque Virrey especially on Sunday when there is Ciclovia (roads closed to traffic and open only for pedestrians and bikes). As it's the park from the upper class neighborhood, here is where you will find the most beautiful girls of Bogota during daytime. As for touristic visits: Candelaria, the historic colonial city, Plaza Bolivar, the teleferico to Montserate with breastaking view over the city, Museo de Oro and Museo Nacional... Outside Bogota worth visits are the salt catedral of Zipaquira, the salto de Tequendama or Piscilago in Melgar, the biggest water park of Latin America. Melgar is some king of springbreak place where youth from Bogota come to have fun during week end as it's down the moutain with again tropical climate: swimming pools, hotesl, night clubs, fincas for rental etc...A great place to go out by night is Toni-K VIP as it's a high end open sky nightclub where all the girls are in shorts and Tshirts and end up drunk in the swimming pool.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much! You sure went beyond my expectations with your post, what a ton of valuable information and left me speechless. Thank you so much I am truly grateful, I will see when I get the chance to get paid subscription here to use messaging and see if I can contact you through there and the least I can do for you if you will be unoccupied would be to invite you to a pint at your favorite pub or bar! Again thank you for this valuable information, believe me that I will try to do everything I can that you suggested within my 5 day time frame that I will be there.
You are welcome! Oh! And I forgot your second question regarding differeces between girls of Medellin and Bogota. It's just how Colombians usuallly will answer such a question, as of course you can't generalize when you are describing a population of 8 000 000.
Girls in Medellin are the typical Paisa, ethnically European, beautiful, very feminine and sweat. Stereotype is also that they are superficial and operated, obsessed by their physical aspect with poor personality and intelligence.
Girls in Bogota are a bit more ethnically mixed, with however a strong tendency to be etnically European in the higger social classes of Northern Bogota and with more Indian mix in the lower social classes of south Bogota. Very few have fake boobs compared to Medellin and enphasis is not on physical aspect but on career. Yes, people have to struggle more in Bogota to survive, so stereotype is that girls in Bogota are smarter, more independant towards men and also more stressed due to traffic and long working days.
It's just a tendency, compared to girls in USA or Europe of course girls in Bogota are hundred times sweater. You can start talking to any girl in Bogota, they will always reply nicely, you can invite them to have a drink, or ask for her phone, they will nearly always answer positively and if they answer negatively, they will still be flattered and will never, ever be rude like Western girls.
Thanks for your magnum opus.
On Christmas eve I will have a 19-hour layover at Bogota Airport. I thought the easiest way to monger would be to get one of the escorts. Will escorts go to hotels at the airport. Are there any airport hotels that are not girl-friendly? Which agencies would respond to my calling in English?
Many thanks.
There are a couple of hotels close to the airport for business, but they are pretty pricey. All hotels in Bogota are girl friendly and escorts have no problen to visit hotels. At worst there might be a different price for single and double occupancy. Another option for a short time when in transit is Motel El Dorado Avenida Calle 26 #96 a-20, the typical love motel. However, for a 19 hour stop, there is time enough and it's not worth to keep it to the airport area. Agencys might atend you in english, it all depend of the operator that will atttend you at that moment. There are a couple of agencies especialized in foreign business men and always atend in English, but I would rather consider them as ripp off. Paying 5 or 10 times more just because the operator speaks english...
Try These:
1. [URL]http://www.viaggio.com.co/[/URL].
2. [URL]http://www.vrbo.com/61021[/URL].
3. [URL]http://www.aptscolombia.com/index.php/en/[/URL].
4. [URL]http://www.theapartmentbogota.com/[/URL].
5. [URL]https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/654822?sug=51[/URL].
6. [URL]https://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g294074-d1720257-Reviews-Chapinorte_VIP-Bogota.html[/URL].
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/url]
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1932943]Hey guys,
I've took advice from this forum and changed my plans from a hotel to apartment.
I looked at Virrey but to small. I need a luxury 2 bedrooms large apartment that I can make some noise.
If anyone has advice please let me no. I'll be staying for 1 week in November.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]
Best day for single men is Tuesday. Viviana has an amazing network within the swing world and she manages to bring every time enough single girls and open minded couples in order to have a the perfect balance between girls and men and to have guaranteed sex for the single men. The single girls are no prostitutes, I know some of them outside the club, they are swing girls and genuinely love sex. At first the concept seems similar to the German Partytreff, but the main difference is that you are not fucking with bored exploited Romanians but with truly amateur Colombianas that love to fuck. An amazing scene, everybody is naked, socializing, playing in the pool, having fun, drinking, talking and flirting. A dozen of naked bodies in the Jacuzzis with unknown hands grabbing your dick while you finger the pussies you have in your reach, kissing and fucking any girl you want or at least what your body allows. If paradise exists, it must be something close to this place. Couples, singles, guests, staff, hard to see the difference, anyone is fucking with anyone, all girls are open. Girls are between 20 and 35 years old without any artificial high heel s, mini skirt and fake boobs, truly next door girls, naked with sandals, no make-up and wet hairs from the swimming pool. Of course, you need to be open minded, not have a problem with nudity, having sex in public and in group. Don't be surprised that a girl starts to blow another dick while fucking you, or be shy because the guy that is joking with you turns out to be the husband of the girl you are fucking with. Don't treat the girls as prostitutes; be nice and cool as they fuck because they want to, not because they need to. If I did the effort to reveal my favorite place on ISG, do me at least the favor not to spoil it. Anyhow, if having inhibited, genuine group sex is your idea of fun, it's probably the best place on earth you can find, at least I don't know another place where single men can genuinely fuck with swing girls as much as you can do it in a German partytreff...[/QUOTE]Bogotá is the place to be mate: and you my man Rotard are a genius. I would love to start mongering in Bogotá as I love Colombian women. I've had some in HK and Guangzhou and now in BKK but there is nothing that can beat a true place like in Colombia itself.
You have opened so many more new doors and possibilities for us mongers in Dubai: Cheers man.
God bless your holy soul for writing this encyclopedia.
Someone put this is in ISG ROD and not Colombia ROD.
Peace.
I just got back from my first visit to Colombia and I had a good time and some fun sexy experiences.
I am more interested in non-pros and semi-pros than escorts, so I skipped all the escort sites and pussy houses.
I fished in Hi5 and [URL]latinamericancupid.com[/URL] for Girl Friend types, looking for a "normal girl" who might respond to financial or lifestyle incentives. Being 50+ and looking for a girl half my age, and having no Spanish and being in Bogota for only a few days, I had no expectation of finding a real freebie, but I wanted a girl who was not a pro.
The first thing is there are relatively few girls on these sites who speak a reasonable amount of English, so the no Spanish thing is a hugely limiting factor. And neither of those sites have tons of eligible profiles, so the pool gets small pretty fast, depending on your criteria.
Ultimately I found a couple of girls in Bogota and a couple in Manizales, where I was going to spend most of my time. I will file a separate report about Manizales.
The best prospect turned out to be Caroline, a 27 year old nurse who looked pretty hot (sorry I cannot seem to transfer her photo from WhatsApp to here). I mentioned my "Sexy Nurse" fantasy. She mentioned she had a "Sexy Policewoman" outfit but no sexy nurse costume. So I bought one to bring with me. And we chatted about a bunch of other sexy things, so she seemed a reasonably certain bet. At first she pretended to be shocked when I said I was married, but then she re-engaged, so I figured she had moved on from potential romance to commerce.
I tried to find out what her expectations were of me. Financial or otherwise. But she was coy about that, so I let it be.
After some complications we met up at my hotel. Morrison Hotel 84 in the Zona Rosa. She looked spectacular! Pretty enough face, though a few more miles than expected. But isn't that always the case? Painted on jeans and fuck-me shoes. And magnificent tits projecting half-way across the lobby, mostly exposed. My kind of girl!
She had a largish purse with her, which she proposed putting in my room while we went out for drinks (it was now past dinner time), thus presumably an over-night bag. Again, my kind of girl!
I think the hotel made me pay 80 K per night to register her, which I thought was steep, but not much to be done about it in the circumstances. We went out, had a couple of drinks, did some flirting via translation app, then went straight back to my hotel. Getting on the elevator, another couple was getting off that was much the same. Older, businessman-like guy with a sexy, sluttily dressed woman half his age. But I got the impression that they were a real couple, not short-term honey-mooners like Nursey and I.
Up in the room it didn't take long for Nursey to strip and shower and climb into bed with me. She wanted to know where her "sexy nurse" costume was and was disappointed when I explained my luggage had been lost and it might be a couple of days before I got it. But she was brave and well-equipped even without her costume. Those gorgeous tits I told you about (obviously, but nicely enhanced) and fantastic ass and very trim waist. Really a perfect figure. The only thing I did not like was tattoos on her belly leading down to her shaved pussy. But maybe some guys would like that.
She fucked like a champion (covered), including 69, cowboy, reverse cowboy and missionary, shouting "fuck me harder" at appropriate moments, and do cumming a couple of times herself and me once. The only thing I didn't like is she did only a minimal blowjob until a condom was on. Then she was reasonably enthusiastic.
In the morning we repeated this performance, although only after what seemed like numerous showers. Sure, you like a certain amount of hygiene, but sometimes it really interferes with the flow. Still no talk of money.
Then we went out shopping. A clean shirt for me and "a blouse or something" for her. Well, an hour later she has blouses, jeans and shoes all piled up on a store counter when I finally drag her aside and say we have to talk. Then we get into negotiations. The end point is I agree to pay her 300,000 COP (a little over $100 USD) per night, plus the blouse. She is okay with that, but clearly disappointed. I guess she thought she would earn big money and get a new wardrobe. Probably I should have dealt with this earlier, but she seemed reluctant to get into it and it helped the mood that it was not strictly a money exchange (at that point). But probably I should have given her an "allowance" before we went shopping so she could spend it if she wanted or keep the money.
We still had a nice day, although the mood was a bit dampened, with the occasion reference to the jeans I didn't buy her. The night was pretty good too, but not as spectacular as the first and everything was a bit more mechanical. But by the morning, when I had to leave, I was happy enough to be done with her, despite her spectacular tits and figure and reasonably good fucking. However, she always seemed to manage more organisms than I did, which I never think is fair when I am paying!
[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;1937908]I just got back from my first visit to Colombia and I had a good time and some fun sexy experiences.
Then we went out shopping. A clean shirt for me and "a blouse or something" for her. Well, an hour later she has blouses, jeans and shoes all piled up on a store counter when I finally drag her aside and say we have to talk. Then we get into negotiations. The end point is I agree to pay her 300,000 COP (a little over $100 USD) per night, plus the blouse. She is okay with that, but clearly disappointed. I guess she thought she would earn big money and get a new wardrobe. Probably I should have dealt with this earlier, but she seemed reluctant to get into it and it helped the mood that it was not strictly a money exchange (at that point). But probably I should have given her an "allowance" before we went shopping so she could spend it if she wanted or keep the money.
We still had a nice day, although the mood was a bit dampened, with the occasion reference to the jeans I didn't buy her. The night was pretty good too, but not as spectacular as the first and everything was a bit more mechanical. But by the morning, when I had to leave, I was happy enough to be done with her, despite her spectacular tits and figure and reasonably good fucking. However, she always seemed to manage more organisms than I did, which I never think is fair when I am paying![/QUOTE]So I'd like to give you some advice on improving your experience:
* Real non-pros or semi-pros when they go out with you in public do not want to be treated like a prostitute. Do not under any circumstances mention a flat rate and negotiate with them. It's a big no-no. I had a sugar baby for a year and the one time I tried that she lost her shit. If you're interested in paying for sex stick to pros. Especially with Colombians.
* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. Don't worry about the Spanish. My first chica spent six months teaching me. I just used google translate while I was learning.
* Colombians are usually subtle. Especially when communicating in a relationship. For example, it's common to hear them say "Rigalo mi. " which means "Gift me. " when ordering food or a drink. It's just a way of politely asking for things. When she says she wants something and you can't or don't want to give it, say "Si, pero dispuis. " which means "Yes, but later. " Again it's more polite than taking her aside and negotiating. She was probably horrified man.
* Don't ever fucking tell her you're married! Does she tell you she has a boyfriend? She doesn't want to know that shit. Think of it as a trip to Vegas. It's one big fantasy you both can have. She has the vagina and you have the dollars.
* If you are going to take her shopping, and I recommend that highly, do not let her walk around alone. Instead walk with her and comment on anything she gets. Become her fashion adviser. That lets you limit what she buys and impress her too. Always, when you're out with her, have her by your side. They like it. And it lets you be in charge. Most of these women want men who are in charge of shit. Eventually she will always clear any purchases with you first before she goes anywhere near the counter, on her own without guidance.
* Don't be an ATM machine but at the same time expect to pay for the privilege of fucking one girl regularly and having her there whenever you fly down there. I had a chica who would regularly pick me up from the airport, cook if I was renting an apartment, and have outrageous sex on her own without me ever prompting for it. But you're going to pay more.
* If she wants money she will let you know. She will bring up an expense she needs help with. Personally, if it's reasonable I just left the money in her purse without saying anything. Be subtle because she will be too.
* If you like the girl you just met, immediately take her to an upscale store like Versace or some shit and buy her an expensive pair of sunglasses. Something she can never afford on her own. Why? Because it will set the tone that she's in for a special relationship. She'll "feel rich" and different because she herself would never think to shop there. Why sunglasses? The most expensive ones aren't going to be over $300 and it's a one time purchase. If you choose to do this do it early, no more than three days after the first fuck.
* Don't discuss sex ever when you're first meeting her. Don't embarrass her.
This whole fucking hobby is just one big fantasy.
Finally, yes non-pros who are in it for the money will be more expensive than an hourly rate working girl, however, over time it pays off if you want less mechanical women. It's not outrageously expensive in Colombia. You're looking at a few grand every year in shit you buy or give her. Set a budget and train her to stay on it. If the budget and your game is good enough she will even leave her novio, but don't expect exclusivity for long or for it to be reliable.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. [/QUOTE]Nice post Yippie. Which bars you having most luck in these days?
After reading Routard excellent post and getting a cheap fare. $303.00 usd lax to Bog are / t. I went for a short stay. 2 nights in Bogota and 2 nights in Cali. On the recommendation of Routard, first night I went to Juan Pablo Zhivago. I liked this place but unfortunately, not sure if it was the flight or the elevation, but I had a mean headache. I got there around 00:30 and there were about 8 girls. Like Routard reported, no pushy waiters and there were at least 3 very hot chicas. I bought one girl a drink, her name was Dayan. Okay face but with a killer body. We got along very well but because of my headache, I told her wouldn't do anything tonight. She gave me her whatsapp # and said to call tomorrow and she would come by before work. That way I wouldn't have to pay the exit fee.
Next day got up early, did some touristy stuff, then tried to whatsapp the chick. Wouldn't go through. She didn't put in the country code. So as I tried putting it in, I accidentally erased part of the her number. Great going! So I lost out on her unless I go back to the club tonight and pay the exit fee. Which wouldn't have been a problem. At the time I was just finishing up at the Museo de Oro. I wanted to see some of the Santa fe clubs so I walked from there to Fiebre. It was around 14:00 so the walk was fine, no problems. Fiebre wasn't open so I just walked around absorbing all places that are here. It's like Tijuana's red light district only much larger. Went into many clubs but will only go into the ones where I took a girl up. Atunes, I believe her name was Alexandria. She looked like a playboy model. Cost $70,000 cop and the knock seemed like it came early at around the 15 minute mark. No GFE but shagging a hot young playboy type was worth it. Troyas and I believe her name was Luisa. Okay face with a killer body. $60,000 cop around 20 minutes. Again no GFE with CBJ then the shag. Seems like unless you are a regular, it's get in and get out. After Troyas, got something to eat and took a taxi to pussyhouse. I didn't really care for this place because of the pushy waiters. I can't remember the name of the girl but it was $70,000 cop for 1/2 hour. This chick at least DFK which was nice, CBJ then the shag. Another reason why I don't think I will be back here, there was no shower or wash basin in the room. I at least like to clean up a little. All I got here was tissue to wipe off. Same with the girl so I'm glad I didn't try DATY with her.
Finally after 3 sessions, I thought it would be a waste of money to go to Juan Pablo but I wasn't quite finished. So I went back to Santa fe and into El Castillo. Was kind of dead but unlike on Routards post no pushy waiters. At least not today. There were only 10 girls with about 5 customers. The girls were in like an alcove and never moved. Maybe it's different when the place is crowded. No strip show all the time I was there. I did take one girl up, can't remember her name either but she would smile at me every time I looked her way. It was $150,000 cop for the 1/2 hour and with the exception of the CBJ, it was pretty close to GFE. Non stop dfking DATY multiple positions and an overall good time. I did offer a tip for a BBBJ but was declined.
Even though the venues in Bogota are spread out, I really did enjoy my short time here. I only scratched the surface but now I'm wanting more. When I return, I will be back at Juan Pablos and finish what I started on this trip. The next day I went to Cali and spent two nights with my ATF there. One tip. While booking my Bogota to Cali flight, Viva Colombia was the cheapest but without baggage. I then tried expedia to see prices and most flight were around $160.00 to $180.00 usd one way. Way to high. So I changed my IP address to show a Colombia address and went onto latam website. I booked my flight from Bogota to Cali for around $60.00 usd and it was for are / t. So much for the American pricing. I have flown with Viva Colombia before and they were fine but sometimes the times could be way too early or way to late. With latam or Avianca you have more choices on departure times. Anyways, not sure if I just lucked out doing it this way, but it did work for me.
Again thanks to all the contributors and especially Routard for his fine post that any newbie going to Bogota should read.
[QUOTE=QuackUp;1938459]... So I changed my IP address to show a Colombia address and went onto latam website. I booked my flight from Bogota to Cali for around $60.00 usd and it was for are / t. So much for the American pricing. I have flown with Viva Colombia before and they were fine but sometimes the times could be way too early or way to late. With latam or Avianca you have more choices on departure times. Anyways, not sure if I just lucked out doing it this way, but it did work for me.[/QUOTE]Useful info. Can you provide additional details on how to do this? Was it through a VPN service like Hola? Also, in the past when I've tried to book on VivaColombia website using an American CC, I could never manage to pay for the flight I was trying to book, even when using the Colombian portal to enter the site. Did you run into any of this when changing your IP address to book the flight? Any suggestions on how to get around this?
Hi bijou,
I use ipvanish. I used this service because at the time I couldn't get into [URL]gpguia.net[/URL] a Brazilian site.
I went last week to Bogota for a few days with a wingman of mine (he does not have an account here unfortunately, he could have shared his experiences as well which was more than mine). The Viaggio apartments were a little far from where I wanted to be, parque 93 was much closer to Chapinero and Santa Fe so we rented a very nice apartment in parque 93 from airbnb, very economical 2 story 2 bedroom for $100 a night ($50 each splitting it with my homeboy) chica friendly with nice private security.
So me and my homeboy arrived there Thursday and well when we stepped outside the airport we requested a taxi to parque 93 to our apartment and we got a taxi for 40 K COP, great, but holy shit what traffic!! It was as bad as Mexico DF traffic!! We arrived at our apartment around 5 PM, dropped off our items and scurried to our first destination, which based off on Routard suggestion it was chicas mileroticos! Holy shit what an awesome environment!! It was not very crowded, like 8 of us dudes but young guys like us university guys, they had a working girl fucking a random dude right there, nice ass games like spraying whip cream to a girl and if you aim it right to their pussy you get a complimentary beer jajajajaa. It was great environment and wow a good selection of chicas, maybe because it was Thursday but more working girls than customers but fuck it even better for us, they were all 8's and a few 9's (9's relative to what you like) and yeah I chose a nice operated tits girl, mind you guys I am no good with names they introduced themselves to me and I here their fake ass names and they all go from one ear to another, but this puta was nice, very friendly bought her a beer and asked what does she offer in the menu, she said she is all in, she will do anything I requested as long as there was a negotiable commission, so I asked what was the rate and she responded 40 k for 30 minutes, and I said I would do a hour session and offer another 120 k for BBBJ, DFK, fuck and destroy her ass. She agreed and everything went excellent with that chick, it sucks that I can't remember the name for you all (cause rarely do I repeat putas, however I do lie to them and tell them I will if they treat me nice.).
My homeboy went with two chicks that night, not simultaneously but one right when we went in and another two hours afterwards, uff the second one he got was a nice thin dark skinned with a beautiful round ass, sexy as fuck! From there we went to eat in Zona T, mind you guys I was drunk as fuck at this point so I don't even know the name of the restaurant we ate, but it was delicious guys, Colombian food but a nice sit down restaurant (to make it easier it was a block from the shopping mall that has a forever 21) I was obnoxious as fuck but no matter when I am obnoxious I tip well the servers to justify my raunchy behavior. Then afterwards we went to a regular disco nightclub by the name of "Rush" nice ass environment, electronica music nice bitches we were probably the only foreigners there (even tho me and my homeboy are Hispanic) but yeah, we got ourselves a table and a bottle of Jose Cuervo for 140 k COP, we drank that shit and well I did try to spit some game to some Colombians but was not very successful like in MDE, neither my friend, and I actually did get threatened to get my ass kicked since I tried to flirt with a girl that was with her boyfriend LOL, like I said I had gotten fucking drunk and well regardless I had fun, and we left that place and walk to El Padrino since it was like a block away, went upstairs and for some reason all the bitches were staring at us made me mad, then I guess my homeboy went to fuck a Girl while I was a table there drinking a corona, and from there guys my memory dissipated, I erased cassette! I woke up the next morning in my apartment in my bed with just my underwear, my homeboy told me he paid a taxi to take me to the apartment since he went by himself to look for streetwalker action in Santa Fe, and I guess while I was walking up the stairs to my room I threw up all over my self and the stairs, and supposedly by my homeboy the private security took me to my room and when my homeboy came back the private security told him he had to clean up my mess which I guess he did, I woke up smelling like shit and vomit, my homeboy told me he picked up 3 different street walkers sessions in Santa Fe that night and yeah he does not have account to describe that experience, I was already game over.
Friday woke up, showered and went out to have breakfast, eggs and caldo de costilla at some tipical comedor from a block off the apartment. Then we went to chapinero, first tried to go to las Vegas club, but we found nothing we liked (except the bartender but she said she was not a working girl) and I guess we got approached by a manager or I really don't know what the hell he was, but he was Kevin "el flaco" and took us to more venues right next to where we at, he said his patron owned all 5 nearby, so we went to another one called casa Chile, it was good there I found better meat, did a trio with two nice ass chicks, do not remember their names but their were how I like them petite and slim, and I offered each an hour session plus 50 k each for BBBJ and DFK, and they both agreed, all together 200 k for those two chicks, great session until the 50th minute when they were fatigued, I even jokingly said I was going to order another 3 hour session and they did not laugh LOL. We walked to other venues, totally forgot the names of those casas man, but my friend fucked some from some casas and I did to other casas, totally forgot their names and place of the venues but it was everywhere the same price, 20 k 20 minutes, 30 k 30 minutes, 50 k 60 minutes. After that obsessive amount of sex we went to eat at some comedero around that area eating bandeja paisa and I ate a menundencia since I was still hungover from yesterday, we went back home and took a nap, we woke up had dinner and went to pussy house, that shit was like market style, we got a bottle of aguardiente tho and we did not get fucked by with servers, nice selection of chicks, I had a session with a nice skinny chick for 70 k but I forgot her name, went to the room and the motherfucking slick waiter in the roof asked for "propina" I laughed and gave him a 500 pesos coin, I probably imagined he would knock the door early but either way she was in her period which was a big turn off to me, I told her I could not fuck her then that I am not too fond of blood and the std effects of it, so I still had to fuck and saw a stunning 9 girl there called Catalina, I did remember her name, gorgeous, nice body, and she was nice at first! She quoted 100 k for sex, but she was worth it because she was a step above the other females, great session DFK, let me finger and suck her ass, but at the end she asked for a tip, I actually did not have any cash left LOL I told her that and I was sorry but she cursed at my ass in Spanish, very very disrespectful I actually got my feelings hurt, I was drunk and my homeboy could tell, even tho I was able to finish with her but that was so mean of her. Regardless we left and we headed to a night club but a weird ass night club called "vlak" middle of nowhere, looked like a very nice area, it was an underground house club, 40 k entrance fee and 12 k per beer (Heineken) super expensive!! But damn everyone there were tripping out big time, they look like they were on pills and coke, anyways it was getting late, stopped by a gas station with a el corral and I had like 4 fucking burgers I was drunk and hungry as fuck and we went back to sleep.
Next day we woke up, did normal human being touristic stuff like going to Candaleria, look at jewelry at calle Jimenez, went to the church and the artesanal markets, we even bought some "RHINO" cream in cause we needed to recharge our dicks, then we headed to Casa Milerotico since it had been my favorite venue thus far, so we went and it was just me and my homeboy and another person there at that time, but there were 5 chicks, none of the same ones from that night, but two good looking ones, it was a nice environment I was there chilling drinking and the fat ass who does the music was putting my requested songs. I did a half hour session with this nice brunette operated chick, nice chick, my friend afterwards took her and also gave her some chorizo. Then we socialized with the other dude that he could speak broken English (he was Colombian) he was cool as fuck so we decided to hang with him as well and from there we headed to Santa Fe and went to atunes, they went and fucked two each, I was just recharging drinking water trying to sober up since it was still early as fuck and I was already pretty drunk. Then after atunes went to eat caldo de res at some comedor there and then to Fiebre, we got ourselves a bottle of aguardiente and sat in the second floor and nice ass chicks, I choose a stunning skinny girl by the name of tatiana, she was very cute and very GFE, I did not request extras I just paid her 60 k for the session and very nice, and sweet, she did DFK, and I did DATY and suck the shit out of her ass (without the need of negotiating for those extras) regardless at the end of the session with her I did gave her 20 k pesos tip just because she was nice and sweet unlike that bitchy puta Catalina from pussy house. From there we made a stop at la picina and saw nothing we liked so we just dashed and got the fuck out of there, then we headed to a club recommended by andres the other guy we ended up hanging out with, and I don't know the name of it or which one it is, it has a second floor, but yeah we went there and jam packed and we sat down with a bottle of aguardiente and few girl approach us, they were talking about exit fees and shit and we were curious for how much, they said 100 k is the exit fee plus we would have to pay them 200 k for the all night til 7 am, so fuck it I chose a nice ass skinny chick there from Pereyra, her name was Salome, my friend choose another girl and we took them to apartment around 1 am and I fucked and cuddled my girl til like 4 am, after that I fell asleep in retrospective it was not really a good deal since it was for 3 hours of sex, basically 100 k an hour, but it is a bargain if you take the girl out lets say at 10 at night and you screw her til 4 AM, then its basically 50 k an hour much better but still its the same rate as fucking a chica in el chapinero. Next day we woke up, at 7 AM, said bye to the girls, went to eat breakfast and we went headed back to the airport.
My Conclusions? Mongering environment Bogota beats Medellin by a long threshold!! The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope!
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1942486]
on Routard suggestion it was chicas mileroticos! Holy shit what an awesome environment!! It was not very crowded, like 8 of us dudes but young guys like us university guys, they had a working girl fucking a random dude right there, nice ass games like spraying whip cream to a girl and if you aim it right to their pussy you get a complimentary beer jajajajaa.
[/QUOTE]Hi.
Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1942486] The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope![/QUOTE]CPlusPlus, thanks for an A++ report. I went to Bogota first before I visited Medellin, and I came to the same conclusion as yours.
Would like to take you for dinner and a night out on the town if you have the time.
Is that something you can find the time to do.
[QUOTE=Routard;1911247][B]GENERAL[/B]I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 2 years. This is a complete report about all the options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations during this year, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. If I don't mention one of them then it's because I couldn't find it for whatever reason (wrong info, wrong address, closed location). Or the place didn't offer sex, or the place offered sex but not with girls. No kidding! In the map there were a couple of gay clubs, needless to say I did not mention them here.
I have left the very best at the end of my report, don't miss it, the best kept secret of Bogota, never reported before on ISG!
Don't hesitate to contact me for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third..[/QUOTE]
Calle 71 #14 A-24. 30 Chicas in Shifts. Prices: 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 60 k hour. Tel: 249 2927,312 5074. Hours: 9 am to 3 am.
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA[/url]
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[b]Caution: Do not get as drunk as CPlusPlus! He was lucky not to get robbed or worst, in any country.[/b]
[QUOTE=SXLover;1942818]Hi.
Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Starfe1;1943921]Would like to take you for dinner and a night out on the town if you have the time.
Is that something you can find the time to do.[/QUOTE]Ure, cont.
[QUOTE=Routard;1944974]Ure, cont.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. Your message box is full.
Ure?
Your report on Bogota was a classic in my eyes. I've sent it to a few Ceo's to read.
[QUOTE=SXLover;1942818]Hi.
Where is this casa chicas mileroticos. Can you give address. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Wrote it wrong, it was milenio, World Travel 69 corrected me.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1943770]CPlusPlus, thanks for an A++ report. I went to Bogota first before I visited Medellin, and I came to the same conclusion as yours.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the compliment, but even I know it ain't no fucking A++ report LMAO I only remembered like half the "stage" names of the putas I banged there, I misspelled my favorite casa LOL, I had not remembered the last place I had gone where the exit TLN was 300 k (but I asked the guy that took us there and he told me, it was la 49, its the one you have to get up stairs in front of gas station.).
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1943985][b]Caution: Do not get as drunk as CPlusPlus! He was lucky not to get robbed or worst, in any country.[/b][/QUOTE]Totally agree with his sentiment!! Unfortunately I tend to drink more than what I can handle, part of my Mexican genes LOL those of you all that are of Irish or like Eastern European descent know the pain LOL. But in all seriousness I was lucky, my "friend" just got a random taxi and just basically dumped me there when I was unconscious, with no sense of concern, the Taxi driver had he had malice intentions, God knows what would have happened to me, but thank God everything good, I actually still had a large sum of cash still in my wallet, I was carrying an iPhone 6 and I still had it when I woke up, like I said everything good but yeah definitely would not recommend that to anybody out there, especially if you going to hang out in Santa Fe.
[QUOTE=Starfe1;1944998]Thanks for the response. Your message box is full.
Ure?
Your report on Bogota was a classic in my eyes. I've sent it to a few Ceo's to read.[/QUOTE]LOL. Damn Routard post was so good this dude created an ISG account and paid a subscription solely to meet up with this cat LOL. I wanted to meet up with Routard, I actually tried purchasing a paid subscription but my card was declined! So I just gave up on the idea of purchasing it and besides I am not sure if Routard would have been too please to hang out with my drunk, obnoxious and chauvinistic ass LOL.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1945185]
LOL. Damn Routard post was so good this dude created an ISG account and paid a subscription solely to meet up with this cat LOL. I wanted to meet up with Routard, I actually tried purchasing a paid subscription but my card was declined! So I just gave up on the idea of purchasing it and besides I am not sure if Routard would have been too please to hang out with my drunk, obnoxious and chauvinistic ass LOL.[/QUOTE]Don' worry, it's always a pleasure to meet fellow ISG members. I emptied my PM, so it's ok again to contact me through MP.
Thanks for the advice. I agree with most of it, but it is not always easy to follow.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
So I'd like to give you some advice on improving your experience:
* Real non-pros or semi-pros when they go out with you in public do not want to be treated like a prostitute. Do not under any circumstances mention a flat rate and negotiate with them. It's a big no-no. I had a sugar baby for a year and the one time I tried that she lost her shit. If you're interested in paying for sex stick to pros. Especially with Colombians.
[/QUOTE]I suppose you are right, I had already burned one lead by trying to agree on financial incentives up front. But I always worry that girls might have unrealistic expectations about what's in it for them. But now that I have been there once, I think I understand the drill a little better.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* I never used that website and stick exclusively to pick up bars. Don't worry about the Spanish. My first chica spent six months teaching me. I just used google translate while I was learning.
[/QUOTE]I would love to use pick up bars, but couldn't find any info on this. I assume you mean bars where non-pro girls go to hook up with foreigners, rather than hooker bars? Certainly in the mainstream places I went to in Zona Rosa there were no obvious opportunities to pick up chicas.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* Colombians are usually subtle. Especially when communicating in a relationship. For example, it's common to hear them say "Rigalo mi. " which means "Gift me. " when ordering food or a drink. It's just a way of politely asking for things. When she says she wants something and you can't or don't want to give it, say "Si, pero dispuis. " which means "Yes, but later. " Again it's more polite than taking her aside and negotiating. She was probably horrified man.
[/QUOTE]"Yes, but later" sounds like a good stalling tactic. Will use it next time.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* Don't ever fucking tell her you're married! Does she tell you she has a boyfriend? She doesn't want to know that shit. Think of it as a trip to Vegas. It's one big fantasy you both can have. She has the vagina and you have the dollars.
[/QUOTE]Actually I am glad I did tell her I was married in this particular instance. I wanted to be sure this was a "mutually beneficial" arrangement rather than a "real" date, because I only had two nights in Bogota and didn't want to do the "not on the first date" dance. Although I clearly would have got much better service if she thought this was real romance. Also, she had been played by a guy a lot like me (same demographic, same hometown) believing he would "take her away from all this", when really it was a "pump and dump". I like the GFE, but I don't like creating false expectations. I am not quite that much of a bastard. Of course that does not mean you have to be honest about everything, just there are limits to being dishonest.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* If you are going to take her shopping, and I recommend that highly, do not let her walk around alone. Instead walk with her and comment on anything she gets. Become her fashion adviser. That lets you limit what she buys and impress her too. Always, when you're out with her, have her by your side. They like it. And it lets you be in charge. Most of these women want men who are in charge of shit. Eventually she will always clear any purchases with you first before she goes anywhere near the counter, on her own without guidance.
[/QUOTE]Yes, I should have helped her pick out one thing, then paid for it and moved on. Rather than letting her think about a whole wardrobe. That could be "later".
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* If you like the girl you just met, immediately take her to an upscale store like Versace or some shit and buy her an expensive pair of sunglasses. Something she can never afford on her own. Why? Because it will set the tone that she's in for a special relationship. She'll "feel rich" and different because she herself would never think to shop there. Why sunglasses? The most expensive ones aren't going to be over $300 and it's a one time purchase. If you choose to do this do it early, no more than three days after the first fucks.
[/QUOTE]Good idea, the one time purchase part is key. Shoes have no top end and girls always want more.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1937930]
* Don't discuss sex ever when you're first meeting her. Don't embarrass her.
[/QUOTE]I don't quite agree with that. I am usually on a short visit and cannot afford long dating rituals. They need to understand I expect sex on the first date. So after a few initial emails, I put a lot of sexual innuendo in my messages, maybe even asking if she will be able to stay over night. Then expectations are very clear. And if the girl is squeamish about this, better to know in advance and move on to someone a little more jaded. In this case we had already worked out the whole "Sexy Nurse" fantasy (plus some other fun things) in advance, including explicit agreement to blow me. So I like that kind of guarantee!
Any way, thanks for the feedback. I am sure my next trip will be more successful, although this trip was a pretty good start!
[QUOTE=GentlemanTravel;1945714]
I would love to use pick up bars, but couldn't find any info on this. I assume you mean bars where non-pro girls go to hook up with foreigners, rather than hooker bars? Certainly in the mainstream places I went to in Zona Rosa there were no obvious opportunities to pick up chicas.
[/QUOTE]Hooker bars, or bars where a lot of gringos go and girls go to meet them. I'm thinking of places like LDV, Tu Candela in Cartagena or Habanos in Panama. I'm not aware of anything like this in Bogota but someone else may be able to respond.
You should always play the "ticket out of this place and into a new life" game with them because they've come to expect it. Just my opinion.
Hi all,
I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.
Adventurous guy fro Canada like to join forces with a fellow member to enjoy what Bogota has to offer.
I will be staying in the Sofitel Victoria as my research indicates this is a chica friendly place. I am reading diligently all reports here but as a Colombia novice, all advice is greatly appreciated!
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1946879]Hi all,
I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.[/QUOTE]
First I'd like to thank all of you who posted. This is a great resource with amazingly useful information!
I will be in Bogota from October 23 - 28th and would be nice to join forces with a fellow member to explore all that Bogota has to offer.
I am an older, but fit & athletic Canadian and will be staying at the Sofitel Victoria Regia as I understood from previous reports that beside being an excellent hotel, they are chica friendly.
I have no budget restraints, so free and capable to do whatever, but curious to explore all levels of fun.
I hope there is someone who is already there or just arriving the same time frame would be interested joining forces.
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[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1946879]Hi all,
I'm arriving in Bogota in 5 weeks, I plan on staying for 1 week then off to Medellin for 6 days. So my question is should I just stay for 4/5 days in Bogota then get to Medellin? Tough decision.[/QUOTE]OK, so it has been two days since you published your post and I was thinking maybe the RTFF vets would have been kind enough to answer your question (I guess not) so I will take a stab at it. I guess I have some experience since I have been at both places, Medellin and Bogota, Medellin countless of times and Bogota I made my first trip a month ago. You should have done it backwards in my opinion, Medellin is more newbie friendly and more english friendly and you could have gotten the rope of things better there. So I am not sure 100% what is your profile, the only thing I know is your Scottish and you mentioned you like to spend for quality service, quality women and quality stay. This is my opinion: If you like high end restaurants, hotels, nightclubs, brothels etc etc Bogota will be better, you will see, all that area in el Norte like Zona T and Parque de la 93 is a lot more high end and luxurious than the Poblado area of Medellin, Poblado you will encounter so many sandalitstas, potheads, old ass ISG members LOL you don't see that in Bogota, plus safety factor El Norte of Bogota is superior in that sense than Poblado in Medellin. If you a hard core mongerer, as in like you are the monger that hunts all kinds of hookers from a-z, whether it be from the streets, to casas, strip clubs, or escorts sites, Bogota is superior all around! Both in an economical sense and also in variety and options. Now for a Semi Pro environment, Medellin is better, I was in Bogota for a small period of time, but Medellin women are more approachable when it comes to all that, comparing normal nightclubs and all where I am looking for normal non p4 p chicks, Bogota did not bring me results like it has in Medellin, I have been able to get laid in Medellin in spite of all the pros and semi-pros there, without having to spend money on sex (only on buying drinks, and a little bit on food) but the clubs in Bogota are a lot more high end, fancier, with nicer installations and a better overall service. Things to do outside of sex in both places will be the same, no place is funner than the other IMO. People wise the same. Depending on your personality, if you a 100% solo rider then this does not apply to you, but if you expecting to socialize with other fellow mongers or people from Europe or the US, then that right there might make your stay at Medellin better, your chances of encountering a fellow European and American is higher in MDE than in Bogota. So with all that said I guess you can make a decision of whether you want to stay those extra days in Bogota or leave earlier to Medellin.
Hello enthusiasts,
I go to Bogota a couple times a year and my wing man had to back out. I am fully fluent in English / Spanish and dabble with pros and universitarias. Will anyone be in Bogota that week and doesn't want to venture out without at least one other gringo? I'm not into any drama and don't get drunk when I'm picking up chicas. My goal is to be swimming in a pool of Colombian pussy juice. Anyone like-minded? Message me.
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My Conclusions? Mongering environment Bogota beats Medellin by a long threshold!! The selection and variety of chicas and casas in el chapinero is far wider than that off el Centro of Medellin (and more economical!) Santa Fe Zona de Tolerancia beats Medellin's Centro and Mayorista by a long threshold too. It is not gringo friendly and touristic like Medellin, only saw one gringo monger in my 3 days there, if Medellin one becomes saturated with gringos and turns pussy into overpriced and spoiled like in CTG, Bogota will still be a last hope![/QUOTE]Came to much the same conclusion. Before I have even gone there. Tons of info on all of the various options available in BOG. Cheaper, but not so nice weather.
On another topic.
When I ventured to Lima. I always made a stop at the dentist and eye doctors. Wondering if anyone has tried out the opticos in BOG. In Lima got 2 pair good quality glasses and an exam for about 50 bucks. Just wondering about the prices there in BOG.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1947807]OK, so it has been two days since you published your post and I was thinking maybe the RTFF vets would have been kind enough to answer your question (I guess not) so I will take a stab at it. I guess I have some experience since I have been at both places, Medellin and Bogota, Medellin countless of times and Bogota I made my first trip a month ago. You should have done it backwards in my opinion, Medellin is more newbie friendly and more english friendly and you could have gotten the rope of things better there. So I am not sure 100% what is your profile, the only thing I know is your Scottish and you mentioned you like to spend for quality service, quality women and quality stay. This is my opinion: If you like high end restaurants, hotels, nightclubs, brothels etc etc Bogota will be better, you will see, all that area in el Norte like Zona T and Parque de la 93 is a lot more high end and luxurious than the Poblado area of Medellin, Poblado you will encounter so many sandalitstas, potheads, old ass ISG members LOL you don't see that in Bogota, plus safety factor El Norte of Bogota is superior in that sense than Poblado in Medellin. If you a hard core mongerer, as in like you are the monger that hunts all kinds of hookers from a-z, whether it be from the streets, to casas, strip clubs, or escorts sites, Bogota is superior all around! Both in an economical sense and also in variety and options. Now for a Semi Pro environment, Medellin is better, I was in Bogota for a small period of time, but Medellin women are more approachable when it comes to all that, comparing normal nightclubs and all where I am looking for normal non p4 p chicks, Bogota did not bring me results like it has in Medellin, I have been able to get laid in Medellin in spite of all the pros and semi-pros there, without having to spend money on sex (only on buying drinks, and a little bit on food) but the clubs in Bogota are a lot more high end, fancier, with nicer installations and a better overall service..[/QUOTE]Thanks for the advice, I'm meeting a local girl in Bogota she said she will help me as a guide and more! I met her on CC about 5 months ago so she's cool. When I go to Medellin I'm stay at a great hotel but also booked mansion for a couple of nights. Maybe I should have done it in reverse.
Hi all,
This might be a long shot but I'm looking to get a tattoo in Bogota. Has anyone got experience with an artist?
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1948395]Hi all,
This might be a long shot but I'm looking to get a tattoo in Bogota. Has anyone got experience with an artist?[/QUOTE]No experience. But there are shops-- there's a shopping center named Viva libre or something like that on 19th st and 4th ave (centro).
[QUOTE=Dtaylor1972;1948039]Came to much the same conclusion. Before I have even gone there. Tons of info on all of the various options available in BOG. Cheaper, but not so nice weather.
On another topic.
When I ventured to Lima. I always made a stop at the dentist and eye doctors. Wondering if anyone has tried out the opticos in BOG. In Lima got 2 pair good quality glasses and an exam for about 50 bucks. Just wondering about the prices there in BOG.[/QUOTE]Area optica 19th st and 13th ave in centro- Don't have prices though-- Many shops.
Hi guys,
Visiting this weekend. Which is generally regarded as the most up-market and luxurious brothel in Bogota? And with the classiest ladies.
Many thanks.
[QUOTE=Sinbad0007;1947688]Adventurous guy fro Canada like to join forces with a fellow member to enjoy what Bogota has to offer.
I will be staying in the Sofitel Victoria as my research indicates this is a chica friendly place. I am reading diligently all reports here but as a Colombia novice, all advice is greatly appreciated![/QUOTE]PM me if you want to hang out. I'm here in Bogota for a few months.
[QUOTE=Edenkid;1949484]Hi guys,
Visiting this weekend. Which is generally regarded as the most up-market and luxurious brothel in Bogota? And with the classiest ladies.
Many thanks.[/QUOTE]I would say Lalo's.
Been on a Pussy tear last few weeks. Roaming around Santa Fe-- Hitting up on the Street Sweeties. I think I must have boned like 10+ different girls in the last few weeks. Mostly Street girls. But some at Troyas.
Get all Veed up and hit some hot ass little fuck. Go have a coffee and do it again! Last night 3 times 2 with my new GirlFriend hooker- Super cute with natural D cups-- BBBJ!
But I meet so many hot little fuck. I may actually get some photos of the latest soon.
Lots. Really hot looking pussy on the streets for $35 mil.
I just got back from boning this Hot little 18 yr old (my new GF hooker) from Medellin. Hit it twice for $90 mil.
If you hang out a bit you can find quality pussy on the streets of Santa Fe. It's never been better!
That's what I'm talking about!
Flew in last night and got to Fiebre at about 10 pm. Place was packed and I was surprised how much new talent there was. Probably didn't recognize 80% of the girls. My buddy lives in Bogota and goes to Fiebre once a week and said he didn't even recognize a lot of the girls. I love Fiebre. Definitely my number 1 spot in Bogota. Probably going to head to Lido's tonight as Friday nights are usually awesome there. My buddy just did his veneers at a real nice place in Bogota and is very happy with them. 18 teeth cost him 9 k and it took only 2 days. He went to the states and had a dentist check them out and he said they did a good job. It would of cost him 27 k in the states. Crazy!
Viper10.
[QUOTE=Viper10;1952406]Flew in last night and got to Fiebre at about 10 pm. Place was packed and I was surprised how much new talent there was. Probably didn't recognize 80% of the girls. My buddy lives in Bogota and goes to Fiebre once a week and said he didn't even recognize a lot of the girls. I love Fiebre. Definitely my number 1 spot in Bogota. Probably going to head to Lido's tonight as Friday nights are usually awesome there. My buddy just did his veneers at a real nice place in Bogota and is very happy with them. 18 teeth cost him 9 k and it took only 2 days. He went to the states and had a dentist check them out and he said they did a good job. It would of cost him 27 k in the states. Crazy!
Viper10.[/QUOTE]Yeah-- Fiebre is the Bomb. I go there But I get really Busy with the Streety Sweeties! A lot of Great clubs Paisas, Troyas. So much good pussy, so Little time. There's a new club named Lion on CR 16.
I will be in Bogota next week any good recommendation?
[QUOTE=Routard;1951124]I would say Lalo's.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I arrived on Monday (17th) and everywhere seemed closed for the public holiday! Was on a layover. Till next time! Thanks for the reply.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1952502]Yeah-- Fiebre is the Bomb. I go there But I get really Busy with the Streety Sweeties! A lot of Great clubs Paisas, Troyas. So much good pussy, so Little time. There's a new club named Lion on CR 16.[/QUOTE]By the way-- A lot of the girls from Fiebre, Paisas --others work at Attunes and Troy for the early crowd.
Also I must have been pussy drunk when I wrote that English challenged post about the street girls in Santa Fe.
First time mongering in Bogota but have been to Medellin several times. I only had one afternoon free to have fun so I decided to follow Routard's recommendation and hit up a couple of the massage places at Av. Carrera 15 #104-03, as it wasn't too far from where I was staying. First round was pretty standard fare. Nice looking chica with a great rack and ass to go with it. Fairly decent massage followed by better then average CBJ and then FS in CG position. I didn't last long once she climbed on but no complaints.
I went and got a bite to eat and a drink and went back for round two. This time I hit the jack-pot. The massage place was the first one in the row. I think the chica's name was Iliana or Juliana, I can't remember for sure. Thin figure and long hair dyed a deep maroon color. I paid the 80 K for 40 minutes and assumed she would use up a chunk of the time with a massage and then would rush to get me off like the first chica had done. Boy was I wrong. What actually occurred was almost GFE service except for everything being covered. Once we were undressed she came up to me and put her arms around my neck and nibbled on my ear when I bent over to hug her. She then turned around and rubbed her ass against my cock. A LFK which became DFK when I squeezed her ass. She turned back around to face me when I cupped her breasts and pushed them towards my face. She moaned softly when I sucked on her nipples, which responded by becoming erect. I reached between her legs and was a bit surprised to find that she was wet. She squirmed as I fingered her and gasped when I found her sweet spot. At this point I was quite hard so she put on the cover and began a nice BJ while I continued to finger her. Then I lay her back on the massage table and went down to the why. She was really into it, squeezing my head with her thighs and putting her face her face to the padded wall to muffle her now quite load moans. When I came up for air she leaned over and gave me a long DFK. Then I climbed back up and the table and told her I was ready for the main event. We went through a number of positions including CG, ACG, K9 and mish before I finally popped. We were both pretty sweaty at this point so we cleaned each other off. A few minutes of cuddling and I got dressed. She gave me another DFK before I left. Definitely not what I expected!
Planning a week in BOG in early December. Looking for non mongering activities like tennis and poker during the day. Wondering if anyone knows of any tennis clubs where you can pay to play or any poker rooms (low-limit holdem).
I found a place called Liga tennis Bogota online, does anyone have any firsthand info?
Thanks in advance.
Routard,
Thanks so much for your tremendous additions to this site. I've lived in Bogota for about 5 months and would like to buy you a few drinks in appreciation. Just not sure how to private message yet.
Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Cońo (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times. It opens in the afternoon but I never went there before 6 pm. If you've never been there you could miss it, even from 10 feet away. The only light comes from inside and at times there is only one guy in front. Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it. But inside it's a large strip club with 2-4 dancers at any one time. Note: many of the girls sitting around are not dancers but want to go upstairs for "un rato". I was quoted 60-90 mil and never bargained. Reasonable service with no real standouts (but Tania who is very beautiful). You can take your date upstairs and it's more like a bar without a stage. Also, count your change as it's not uncommon for waiters to short you. Across the street and about 30 yards closer to Calle 14 is Divas (Calle 61 #13-79), which also is very discreet from the outside. The club is smaller and up a flight of stairs. Similar pricing at 50-80 mil. Sandra is in her 30's and provides decent service and has been working there for a few years. Note: Divas seems to treat its women well, which is important to me. Both of these places, as for most clubs in Zona de Tolerencia, are loud as fuck.
Spent more time in Zona de Tolerencia, especially on Carrera 16 a. There are so many clubs in this area, especially on this street, that it makes me feel very safe. Fun starts in the afternoon. Venus is always fun with a good show, but is always crowded. Casanova is good and Ana, the black waitress is trustworthy. Also, they seem to treat the women well. Valentina provides great service, is very nice, not a drinker, and is smoking hot (I like them natural). She and her friend Sari (provided a good 3-way show. Prices for a short time typically run 50 mil in these places. The waiter in Atunes was pushy and dishonest. Piscina in nicer than many down there, at least the room are, and more expensive. Note: any of these waiters can hook you up with "party favors" if you're into that.
The love hotels in Chapinero are a good value. I used Las Palmas on Calle 62 but there must be a dozen in the area. $10-15 for 4-6 hours with clean sheets.
[QUOTE=JasonM;1954717]Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Cono (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times.... Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it.[/QUOTE]That's probably because locals know it as Pussy House or Pussy's House.
Reports are always welcomed, regardless new info or not!
[QUOTE=JasonM;1954717]Trying to give back, but not sure if any of this is new info. I was in Bogota for 3 weeks and will give what updates I can. Went to Casa de Coo (Calle 61 #13-64, it's on the map) several times. It opens in the afternoon but I never went there before 6 pm. If you've never been there you could miss it, even from 10 feet away. The only light comes from inside and at times there is only one guy in front. Most taxis from Zona de Tolerencia don't know it. But inside it's a large strip club with 2-4 dancers at any one time. Note: many of the girls sitting around are not dancers but want to go upstairs for "un rato". I was quoted 60-90 mil and never bargained. Reasonable service with no real standouts (but Tania who is very beautiful). You can take your date upstairs and it's more like a bar without a stage. Also, count your change as it's not uncommon for waiters to short you. Across the street and about 30 yards closer to Calle 14 is Divas (Calle 61 #13-79), which also is very discreet from the outside. The club is smaller and up a flight of stairs. Similar pricing at 50-80 mil. Sandra is in her 30's and provides decent service and has been working there for a few years. Note: Divas seems to treat its women well, which is important to me. Both of these places, as for most clubs in Zona de Tolerencia, are loud as fuck.
Spent more time in Zona de Tolerencia, especially on Carrera 16 a. There are so many clubs in this area, especially on this street, that it makes me feel very safe. Fun starts in the afternoon. Venus is always fun with a good show, but is always crowded. Casanova is good and Ana, the black waitress is trustworthy. Also, they seem to treat the women well. Valentina provides great service, is very nice, not a drinker, and is smoking hot (I like them natural). She and her friend Sari (provided a good 3-way show. Prices for a short time typically run 50 mil in these places. The waiter in Atunes was pushy and dishonest. Piscina in nicer than many down there, at least the room are, and more expensive. Note: any of these waiters can hook you up with "party favors" if you're into that.
The love hotels in Chapinero are a good value. I used Las Palmas on Calle 62 but there must be a dozen in the area. $10-15 for 4-6 hours with clean sheets.[/QUOTE]I will have to go to Pussy house sometime-- I live 5 minutes from Santa Fe though- so it's a long way to Chapinero.
About Venus- If you are into boning a stripper on stage, that happens there! My friend did it.
Hi everyone,
I am planning a two weeks visit to Bogota in spring. I have done my homework on safety (stay in Chapinero area and avoid the south, call for taxi never flag one on street, don't go out after dark, don't carry a lot of cash or bank card with me, order food for delivery instead of walking to restaurants.) and also done my home work on escorts and will call for outcall (I am certainly not going anywhere close to tolerance zone day or night) and the only one trusted by all is Solitasparati agency who has young good looking escorts with real pictures (if you know other ones please advise). That said I am only after looks (real pictures) not services as I am not seeking any sex or even anything sexual (maybe a striptease or private dances) but rather companionship which included dancing, hugging and kissing. I love Latin ladies with light skin to be my companions for short or long time and plan to call for two every day. I do have the following questions which only people on the ground can know the answers and appreciate the responses.
1 - Everywhere in Bogota (airbnb apartments or hotels) have doorman / security so my guests will have to report at the reception. Would this be a problem especially with so many younger ladies coming to my apartment everyday (I am seeking companionship of ladies in their 20's about half my age) the security will likely get suspicious and who know call the LE? How can I avoid this? Have you gents have had this problem in Bogota before? Do you have any specific suggestion who may not require registration or announcement of visitors (I know it is for my own safety but I don't feel comfortable with my visitors having to register).
2 - I am very sensitive if it is even remotely possible to not knowingly see an [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] (as why I choose Bogota over Medellin). Can I ask the ladies to show me their ID (date of birth must be before 1997 to make them legal age which I think is 19) or they would refuse? Yes I know Solitasparati is very reliable but still if I suspect the lady is under 19 I reserve the right to ask for age verification ID or they will be offended or refuse?
3- I have read that seeing escorts is legal in Colombia but only in tolerance zones (the dangerous zones that I will avoid) so does that mean it is illegal for me to invite escorts to my place which will be in safer areas like Chapinero which is outside of tolerance areas? I would like to do everything legally but if it is illegal and LE sees this what would be the penalty (just fine or jail?) I would like to have fun but don't wish to get myself into any trouble.
4 - I hear about strip bars in safe areas (like Lalo for example) where you see the lady first and then pick (as I said looks is the only factor not services as I am not seeking sex or anything sexual). Are these clubs safe to go? I know they are very expensive but safety is my concern. Are they any dance bars (like discos) where I can go safety and meet a none-pro?
In advance thank you very much for responses.
BV.
I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.
Curious if anyone has visited it:
[URL]http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/[/URL]
I put it on the Map, but the address they show on their map is not at the same address as this.
? Autosur #51 d-43 apto 201. 435'38.6"N 7408'04.2"W 10+ Chicas. Prices: BJ 35 k 10 min. , 55 k 10-15 min. , 70 k 30 min. , 120 k hour. Tel: 310-280-8067. Hours: 24 hours, except Wednesday and Sunday 9 am to 7 pm. [URL]http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/[/URL].
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=13ocBQUflm57FfMBszPYYRZskdtM[/url]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1956234]I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.
Curious if anyone has visited it:
[URL]http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1956234]I was browsing milerotic and found this website for a brothel in Bogota. I have to say it made me LOL a lot, especially the video section.
Curious if anyone has visited it:
[URL]http://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/[/URL][/QUOTE]That looks like they have mostly average girls. That area is way off the beaten track of areas discussed here. I know there is a Love Motel area South on Caracas- So there's more strolls there- probably casas too.
Bogota is a megaopolis.
For me there are so many nice Chicas in my neighborhood (I live 5 minutes walk from Santa Fe) It's hard for me to go anywhere else.
1. USA, Sweden and France are as far as I know the only countries in the world where LE might arrest a client for using prostitution service. No one cares in Colombia if you go with prostitutes as long as they are not minor of course. People care however for safety of foreign guests, so don't feel offended if security ask ID of the girl, it's for your own safety.
2. Girls will not be ofended if you ask for ID. People are used in Colombia to flash their cedula ten times a day.
3. Prostitution is officially illegal in Colombia, but largely tolerated and not only in zona de tolerencia. These laws go for the girls and of course the pimps. Clients are not concerned.
4. Night Clubs in Zona Norte are extremely safe regarding physical safety. Major risk is that the bill might end up high, especially with foreigners. Just don't forget to ask each time for price before ordering drinks or service from the girls.
It seems Tinder works in Medellin, CTG, etc after reading those threads; however, does anyone have experience with it in Bogota?
Also, I am thinking of staying at a hotel called Charlie's Place in Usaquen. Is that too far from "the action" of Chapinero and Sante Fe? I did not think it would be due to taxis and Uber being so cheap there.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;1956773]
Also, I am thinking of staying at a hotel called Charlie's Place in Usaquen. Is that too far from "the action" of Chapinero and Sante Fe? I did not think it would be due to taxis and Uber being so cheap there.[/QUOTE]Depends on when you're trying to get to Chapinero or Santa Fe. Traffic can be quite bad. There are quite a few hotel options between Zona Rosa and Chapinero at reasonable prices.
Another option is to find a place close to Autopiste Norte. The Transmilenio buses have dedicated lanes, so they aren't held up by traffic.
I don't know if there's a traffic app for Bogota. If there is, might be a good idea to try and figure out when is the best time to head south.
[QUOTE=Routard;1956768]1. USA, Sweden and France are as far as I know the only countries in the world where LE might arrest a client for using prostitution service. No one cares in Colombia if you go with prostitutes as long as they are not minor of course. People care however for safety of foreign guests, so don't feel offended if security ask ID of the girl, it's for your own safety.
2. Girls will not be ofended if you ask for ID. People are used in Colombia to flash their cedula ten times a day.
3. Prostitution is officially illegal in Colombia, but largely tolerated and not only in zona de tolerencia. These laws go for the girls and of course the pimps. Clients are not concerned.
4. Night Clubs in Zona Norte are extremely safe regarding physical safety. Major risk is that the bill might end up high, especially with foreigners. Just don't forget to ask each time for price before ordering drinks or service from the girls.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for response and advice Routard. Yes there are many other countries too which have adopted the Swedish model in which it is illegal for clients to buy sex only and not for sex workers to sell! Thanks I will ask for age verification ID if I suspect the lady is under 19. Prostitution is actually legal in Colombia as long as it is within the tolerance zones. Glad to hear that night Clubs are safe in Zona North. What I really like is the companionship rather than sex so may be I get have companionship by just buying them drinks and would be a lot cheaper than $165000 for room and another $200000 to $400000 for sex. However I am concerned about having to walk back home (likely a few blocks away) late at night as most travel advisories are asking tourists not to go out after dark for safety reasons! Even catching a taxi on street is not safe. Not fun.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1956808]Depends on when you're trying to get to Chapinero or Santa Fe. Traffic can be quite bad. There are quite a few hotel options between Zona Rosa and Chapinero at reasonable prices.
Another option is to find a place close to Autopiste Norte. The Transmilenio buses have dedicated lanes, so they aren't held up by traffic.
I don't know if there's a traffic app for Bogota. If there is, might be a good idea to try and figure out when is the best time to head south.[/QUOTE]You can use Moovit here it very user friendly and can be configured to give you the required info in English.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1955874]Hi everyone,
I am planning a two weeks visit to Bogota in spring. I have done my homework on safety (stay in Chapinero area and avoid the south, call for taxi never flag one on street, don't go out after dark, don't carry a lot of cash or bank card with me, order food for delivery instead of walking to restaurants.) and also done my home work on escorts and will call for outcall (I am certainly not going anywhere close to tolerance zone day or night) and the only one trusted by all is Solitasparati agency who has young good looking escorts with real pictures (if you know other ones please advise). That said I am only after looks (real pictures) not services as I am not seeking any sex or even anything sexual (maybe a striptease or private dances) but rather companionship which included dancing, hugging and kissing. I love Latin ladies with light skin to be my companions for short or long time and plan to call for two every day. I do have the following questions which only people on the ground can know the answers and appreciate the responses..[/QUOTE]It sounds like you are new to prostitutes in general! Might I suggest as your first trip in Colombia to stay at the Mansion in Medellin and let some guys more experienced show you the ropes.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1957303]It sounds like you are new to prostitutes in general! Might I suggest as your first trip in Colombia to stay at the Mansion in Medellin and let some guys more experienced show you the ropes.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response and advice Hioctane. I will consider the Medellin mansion but I am really looking for high class escorts and for companionship only. But you are correct I haven't been with prostitutes.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1957142]Thank you very much for response and advice Routard. Yes there are many other countries too which have adopted the Swedish model in which it is illegal for clients to buy sex only and not for sex workers to sell! Thanks I will ask for age verification ID if I suspect the lady is under 19. Prostitution is actually legal in Colombia as long as it is within the tolerance zones. Glad to hear that night Clubs are safe in Zona North. What I really like is the companionship rather than sex so may be I get have companionship by just buying them drinks and would be a lot cheaper than $165000 for room and another $200000 to $400000 for sex. However I am concerned about having to walk back home (likely a few blocks away) late at night as most travel advisories are asking tourists not to go out after dark for safety reasons! Even catching a taxi on street is not safe. Not fun.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, these clubs have always taxis waiting in front. If not, justa ask the club to call one.
[QUOTE=Routard;1957570]Don't worry, these clubs have always taxis waiting in front. If not, justa ask the club to call one.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much again. Great to know. I was reading your great report earlier on everything in Bogota including strip bars and Lolas come on the top in terms of best looks though likely with no strip shows which is something I like so I may look for other bars with strip shows but great to know about taxis waiting though travel advisories are advising not to catch a taxi on street and always call because of what has happened in the past to tourists (and again thank you so much for your fantastic contributions to this forum).
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1957603]Thank you very much again. Great to know. I was reading your great report earlier on everything in Bogota including strip bars and Lolas come on the top in terms of best looks though likely with no strip shows which is something I like so I may look for other bars with strip shows but great to know about taxis waiting though travel advisories are advising not to catch a taxi on street and always call because of what has happened in the past to tourists (and again thank you so much for your fantastic contributions to this forum).[/QUOTE]Many of the warnings about Bogota are outdated. There are risks, just like in any city with 10 million people, but it's not high risk, especially if you stay to the north.
For a strip club that I don't think has been reviewed, try Aroma why Tanga (silly ISG spell check strikes again. Replace "why" with the letter that is pronounced like why in English). They have a website and 2 locations.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1957688]Many of the warnings about Bogota are outdated. There are risks, just like in any city with 10 million people, but it's not high risk, especially if you stay to the north.
For a strip club that I don't think has been reviewed, try Aroma why Tanga (silly ISG spell check strikes again. Replace "why" with the letter that is pronounced like why in English). They have a website and 2 locations.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the info JjBee62. Glad to hear all that. I found Aroma and Tanga in Bogota. It is on Calle 93 and Carrera 15 close to my apartment. It says it is a bare pop.
Just got into Bogota today. I'm staying in Chapinero. If anyone's around and wants to go out let me know.
There was this massage place I used to go to. Full service. It had a room with mirrors and a plastic air mattress type of thing on the ground. Anyone remember which one it is?
Let's start out with the positive, since the negative is killing it, Bogota isn't as cold as its painted out to be. I could walk around in jeans and a shirt. The second, it didn't feel dangerous in my barrio, Calle 95 esquina Carrera 14. I took a walk to the pharmacy and walked around in the bar area close to Lalos.
First club to visit, Lalos: It felt / was dead and I managed to pay 105 000 for a vodka and Redbull.
Then to the Mansion, I think they called it. One or two blocks away from Lalos. More girls, better ambiance, but 50 000 for a straight vodka.
I notice that I'm getting fucked, in Spain the drinks would cost 30-45 for a vodka redbull in a high end club. In Spain the girls comes to the clients to start a convo, didn't happen in either of these places.
I also went to a third club in the same area more or less but existed quickly.
I have to ask, are there any places, big clubs like in Spain where you can speak to and get a feeling of the girls before choosing her?
It looks like there are two of them:
[B]Aroma & Tanga Tradicional[/B]
Carrera 15 # 95-48 Local 2. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 257 2057. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/[/URL] [URL]http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html[/URL].
[B]Aroma & Tanga Deluxe[/B]
Carrera 14 A # 83 - 63. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 738 9005. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/[/URL] [URL]http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html[/URL].
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.668438538035902%2C-74.05318770117259&z=18[/url]
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1957809]Thank you very much for the info JjBee62. Glad to hear all that. I found Aroma and Tanga in Bogota. It is on Calle 93 and Carrera 15 close to my apartment. It says it is a bare pop.[/QUOTE]
I think they are just strip clubs. Probably overpriced drinks and low contact lap dances. I plan on checking on them, but won't be there until April.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;1958333]It looks like there are two of them:
[B]Aroma & Tanga Tradicional[/B]
Carrera 15 # 95-48 Local 2. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 257 2057. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/[/URL] [URL]http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html[/URL].
[B]Aroma & Tanga Deluxe[/B]
Carrera 14 A # 83 - 63. __ Chicas. Prices: _ Tel: 738 9005. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Aroma-y-Tanga-91527377781/[/URL] [URL]http://aromaytanga.com/Soy-el-dueno-de.html[/URL].
[url]https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.668438538035902%2C-74.05318770117259&z=18[/url][/QUOTE]
I took a cab to Chicas Milenio Calle 71 #14 A-24 around 4 pm, with a price of 40 mil peso for 30 minutes I did not expect the quality to be too high, but I was positively surprised this time, thanks to Routard. Around 8 girls came to greet me and I chose a girl called Angela. She had big, natural boobs and a very nice smile. The quality of the session wasn't memorable but good considering the price and for being a brothel where its not so easy to chat the girls up before the deed. CBJ and no kissing, except from her nibbling my ear a little. But she did have a pleasant attitude and there are good looking girls there.
I returned there later in the night but left quickly as the quality of the available chicas had deteriorated to sh*t.
This is where I plan to stay for my spring visit (the one on 93 called Casa Dann Carleton) but I am not so sure now because of this. I am renting an apartment for 3 guests in that hotel but I am only one person in there so if they try to charge me extra (even a small amount) I wouldn't take it very kindly. And what do you mean clear my plans with reception? You mean tell him that I am bringing girls from escort agency to my room! To be honest even though it is for my own safety I don't like my guests having to register at reception. Also this hotel has 400 rooms likely about a thousand guests at any time so how on earth would they know that someone walking in the hotel and going towards the elevator is a registered guest or a visitor? Do they stop everyone every time we walk in? On Another note I read somewhere that Sofitel is girl friendly (whatever that means) but it doesn't have apartments (rooms only) at elevated prices. Anyone has recent experience with either? Please share if you do (this post is older).
Thanks a bunch.
[QUOTE=Mel365;706626]I had no problem bringing in chicas when I was staying at the hotel. I stayed there for a total of 4 weeks on 3 separate trips. I now have an apartment. The clerk at the front desk speaks great english tall bald headed guy. Just clear your plans with him. They will charge you 4000 pesos for additional security per guest per night. They only want to see her cedula. No problems for me. Just get pre authorized before leaving for the night. You can also get a pass to go to the other dann carleton on 93? Street to use their spa, gym, sauna, massage. And swimming pool. , there is also a small restaurant at the pool, the chicas really loved this.
Mel[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1958746]This is where I plan to stay for my spring visit (the one on 93 called Casa Dann Carleton) but I am not so sure now because of this. I am renting an apartment for 3 guests in that hotel but I am only one person in there so if they try to charge me extra (even a small amount) I wouldn't take it very kindly. And what do you mean clear my plans with reception? You mean tell him that I am bringing girls from escort agency to my room! To be honest even though it is for my own safety I don't like my guests having to register at reception. Also this hotel has 400 rooms likely about a thousand guests at any time so how on earth would they know that someone walking in the hotel and going towards the elevator is a registered guest or a visitor? Do they stop everyone every time we walk in? On Another note I read somewhere that Sofitel is girl friendly (whatever that means) but it doesn't have apartments (rooms only) at elevated prices. Anyone has recent experience with either? Please share if you do (this post is older).
Thanks a bunch.[/QUOTE]Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.
What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?
You will get one of these answers:
1. We do not allow additional guests. Only people registered for the room are allowed.
2. We only allow X number of guests per day. Guests must sign in with the front desk.
3. There is a charge for each guest (first one might be free). The charge is #X pesos. Guests must sign in with the front desk.
4. We have no guest restrictions, but guests must sign in with the front desk.
I doubt if you will get answer #4 from any Dann Carlton hotel. My guess is that you will be limited to 1 guest / day and there will be an additional charge.
The hotel has a responsibility to all their guests (and to the stockholders). Those guests include families with children and many others who are morally opposed to staying in a hotel full of prostitutes. While your prepagos might be professionally dressed, if the hotel doesn't require them to check in, soon they will get women showing up who dress like prostitutes. Which causes the hotel problems.
You have options. You can get a room down in Chapinero and then use the love Motels to entertain your escorts. You can get a room for 3 or 4 hours for less than $10 US.
You can find an Airbnb host that doesn't worry about guests (they still may need to show ID to security).
You can find a cheap hotel in Santa Fe, where they expect (and can probably recommend) escorts to visit frequently.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1958845]Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.
What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?
You will get one of these answers:.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for extensive response JjBee62. Appreciate your time and info. Yes this is all surprise to me as where I live visitors just walk to elevator and nobody questions them but I have been only to large hotels where there are so many people which it is impossible to tell who is guest and who is visiting. But I have to accept Colombia is another country and they have their own strange rules. BTW just to clarify I have no intention to see prostitutes just high class escorts and I am seeking companionship only (so looks rather than services is my goal). For that I only have to stay in classy hotels otherwise they likely won't come to some cheap love motel in unsafe downtown area, I guess but I am not myself going anywhere near those areas or those motels for my own safety after what I have read about Bogota. Even for Airbnb they have to check in with the security and have to be announced and if I receive two visitors a day I am sure the security may wonder after a few days. Also I am noting that seeing escorts (sex or not) is only legal in tolerance zones (the area that I won't go near) not in Chapinero though I don't know how serious it is to be outside that area is police is called. I will take your advice and will contact hotels to see what their policies on guests are. Thanks again.
Salome Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
Back in Bogota for a bit and thought I'd check out what 60 k /60 minutes would buy me. Only 2 girls on offer. Actually 70 k /60 minutes plus 10 k "propina voluntario". What a filthy fucking shit hole. Kissing / DATY extra. No taking her shoes off, no fingering. She couldn't put on a condom to save her fucking life and kept stopping evry couple of minutes to check it was still on ok. No lube (and as dry as the Sahara), no cleanups. Actually quite friendly before and after but totally uninterested during. Just say no.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1958868]Thank you very much for extensive response JjBee62. Appreciate your time and info. Yes this is all surprise to me as where I live visitors just walk to elevator and nobody questions them but I have been only to large hotels where there are so many people which it is impossible to tell who is guest and who is visiting. But I have to accept Colombia is another country and they have their own strange rules. BTW just to clarify I have no intention to see prostitutes just high class escorts and I am seeking companionship only (so looks rather than services is my goal). For that I only have to stay in classy hotels otherwise they likely won't come to some cheap love motel in unsafe downtown area, I guess but I am not myself going anywhere near those areas or those motels for my own safety after what I have read about Bogota. Even for Airbnb they have to check in with the security and have to be announced and if I receive two visitors a day I am sure the security may wonder after a few days. Also I am noting that seeing escorts (sex or not) is only legal in tolerance zones (the area that I won't go near) not in Chapinero though I don't know how serious it is to be outside that area is police is called. I will take your advice and will contact hotels to see what their policies on guests are. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]The high class escorts are prostitutes, same as all the other escorts. Whether or not you personally have sex with them doesn't matter. In Colombia they are called Prepagos, which means pre-paid. Whether you pay 180,000 pesos and fuck every hole, or pay 1,500,000 and just hug the woman while she reads you a fairy tale, her job classification is Prostitute.
Sex with prostitutes is effectively legal anywhere in Colombia. Because no police officer so going to waste time trying to catch some tourist getting a BJ.
They only reason you might get in trouble is if you do something really stupid:
Have sex with an obvious [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902][CodeWord902][/url] person.
Beat up a prostitute (excuse me, high class escort).
Refuse to pay your high class escort.
Try to fuck a high class escort in public.
That is strange JjBee62 as I thought of escorts differently. I thought escorts (usually educated and classy attractive ladies and who are not working in a brothel or street and only visiting selective gents) are paid for their time and companionship and whatever else that may or may not happen like sex or the one you mentioned is entirely their choice and between consenting adults if they like you whereas prostitutes will have to provide a series of pre-defined or pre-agreed services including sex for the pay that they receive. It shows how little I know about this new hobby and have a lot to learn!
The chances of me engaging in any of those so called very stupid activities (I call it sickening activities only by a sicko) is absolutely zero unless the agency sends me someone under the advertised age which even that will not happen as I will demand age verification ID if I even suspect it. I read that in Colombia some police (I am sure a small minority) are corrupt and they charge you with something stupid (like a simple traffic violation for example especially if they see a tourist) so that they extract large sums of money from the tourists or the guy at reception may try to blackmail and do same but I am sure these are very rare.
Around 2 pm I took a cab to Palmeras Real*Carrera 15 # 66-17, I saw a black door which I think was the entrance but nobody was there and I didn't knock. Instead I let one of the guys on the street take me to another place across the street to a green house facing another red casa on cra. 16 Calle 66-22. Maybe 6 girls, none of them interested me. Another guy took me to a White House on cra. 16 #65-41. There I saw two or three girls that I liked, I chose Paula, 25 mil for 20 minutes, just like yesterday it was CBJ and no kissing, she was even more beautiful but the service was a little colder than yesterday with Angela.
[QUOTE=Soldierb11;1766204]Just returned from a week in Bogota and didn't have a problem at either place I stayed.
Chica Friendly hotels-.
I stayed first at Lloyds apartasuites Parque 93- was only about $65 and was a small apartment with actual separate bedroom so not a studio. Small kitchen but more than adequate for any type of cooking. Bathroom decent as well, free WiFi. Zero issues with bringing girls in. The desk would call me and say "senor, we have miss Alejandra here to see you". And then I would say send her up. Hotel is located near Parque 93 which has a lot of clubs and restaurants and is a good location IMO.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much Soldier for this very useful post. A great many tourists are looking for a specific info like this as I have noticed that a great many have asked for girl friendly hotels but very few responses. Your post is a year and a half old and I hope that Lloyds has remained so since then. Appreciate any updates on Lloyds by anyone with a recent visit.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1959003]That is strange JjBee62 as I thought of escorts differently. I thought escorts (usually educated and classy attractive ladies and who are not working in a brothel or street and only visiting selective gents) are paid for their time and companionship and whatever else that may or may not happen.[/QUOTE]I love your defintion of escort LOL! I guess she will see you as a real strange dude if you don't have sex with her! I confirm that in Bogota the very same girl can do escort, work in a massage parlor, in a high end club, in a low class brothel or in the street, and sometimes even in the very same day! She just tries a bit of everything and goes on with the option where she can earn most money. And it's not necessarely in a high end club that she might earn most.
Regarding the cops, don't worry. Tourists are king in Colombia, police will never try to bother them. And in 10 years in Colombia I have never ever heard that someone got trouble with police for fucking a prostitute. Except of course if you do very stupid things such as going with a minor, not paying or beating a prostitute.
Was hoping someone could help me find an Orthopedist in Bogota that speaks reasonable English. I injured my hip about three weeks ago and it could be related to back issues. I don't have medical coverage, so I might as well have it treated, or at least looked at here. If you have a general practitioner in Bogota that speaks reasonable English, I could start there as I need an EKG too.
I have had a great experience here in the past with dental work, so I hope to find similar quality medical care.
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1958845]Bogota hotels are security conscious, especially in the northern tourist areas. They tend to pay attention to who comes and goes. Maybe they won't notice one prepago, but if you're planning on a steady stream of women, they will definitely notice. It doesn't matter if you pay for 6 rooms, claiming 2 people in each room, the hotel is still going to check Identification of anyone who comes to visit. I think (but am not going to look it up right now) it's the law.
What the other guy means is that you need to ask the hotel about their guest policy. You should do that before you pay for the reservation. You can call or send an email. Just ask "what is your hotel's policy regarding guests?
You will get one of these answers:
1. We do not allow additional guests. Only people registered for the room are allowed.
2. We only allow X number of guests per day. Guests must sign in with the front desk.
3. There is a charge for each guest (first one might be free). The charge is #X pesos. Guests must sign in with the front desk..[/QUOTE]I always find a cheap apartment on airbnb near Santa Fe. Around $25. Nice apartments and no BS hassles with hotels.
[QUOTE=ShooBree;1958193]Let's start out with the positive, since the negative is killing it, Bogota isn't as cold as its painted out to be. I could walk around in jeans and a shirt. The second, it didn't feel dangerous in my barrio, Calle 95 esquina Carrera 14. I took a walk to the pharmacy and walked around in the bar area close to Lalos.
First club to visit, Lalos: It felt / was dead and I managed to pay 105 000 for a vodka and Redbull.
Then to the Mansion, I think they called it. One or two blocks away from Lalos. More girls, better ambiance, but 50 000 for a straight vodka.
I notice that I'm getting fucked, in Spain the drinks would cost 30-45 for a vodka redbull in a high end club. In Spain the girls comes to the clients to start a convo, didn't happen in either of these places.
I also went to a third club in the same area more or less but existed quickly.
I have to ask, are there any places, big clubs like in Spain where you can speak to and get a feeling of the girls before choosing her?[/QUOTE]Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!
Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1960862]Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!
Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.[/QUOTE]There may have been some confusion. I'm guessing he bought the bottle of vodka.
Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.
Girl I ended up seeing- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela[/URL].
Girl I wanted to see- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana[/URL].
Well I arrive early Tuesday, a long ass 11 hour plus flight from London. I'll be in Bogota 1 week then to Medellin, so I'm looking for any recommendations On a nice chica to be my first. Yes a massage is probably good to help my jet lag. Should I just take a chance with a call in escort? Or does anyone have a old or new! Good girl they have come across on their hunting?
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;1960978]Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.
Girl I ended up seeing- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela[/URL].
Girl I wanted to see- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana[/URL].[/QUOTE]Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1961105]Yes I agree your first choice was better, but it ended well. I was going to use this agency so I'm glad of the report.[/QUOTE]
I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.
Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1961130]I expect this is common for this and most prepago agencies. You make a request and they send someone. Maybe the one you requested has another appointment, or has the flu, or just doesn't feel like working. Instead of taking the risk you will pick another agency if your choice isn't available, they send someone else. Rather than admit it, they just claim a mistake.
Let's face it, once she's in your room, the chances of you sending her away are much less.[/QUOTE]LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.
[QUOTE=KillaCam11;1960978]Had my eye on Tatiana from La Celestina. Agreed to 5 hours for 700 k, gave my hotel info, she was only 1.5 hours late, it was around 4 pm traffic was probably bad. Get a call from front desk, told them to send her up. She arrives, we talk for a bit as I am suspicious this is not the girl from the pictures since her boobs were a lot smaller. Then I finally show her the picture of Tatiana and she says that is Lina and there must be a mistake on the website. I talk to the guy at the agency he confirms this as well. I highly doubt it was a mistake as Tatiana is advertised as Tatiana on numerous sites including their Twitter. She probably wasn't available and they just sent Lina in her place. So what the hell Lina is a hot paisa tell her to stay, face 9 body 9 unless your a boobs man but what an ass, attitude 10. She was not GFE even at the price, didn't matter her looks and personality made up for everything. She was very chill, got her beer from the bar and went to town. Ate her pussy and tongue punched that bum hole, was delicious. She was down for all positions, she says she loves anal but it was extra, I passed on that. All in all I would repeat despite the price and lack GFE.
Girl I ended up seeing- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gabriela[/URL].
Girl I wanted to see- [URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-tatiana[/URL].[/QUOTE]I don't know the donation you made but Tatiana was for 290 K and Lina for 255 K so if you made a Tatiana donation to Lina then this could be another reason for switch though as Jjbee mentioned unavailability of Tatiana is the more likely reason but they must not switch. If it was me I would have told them when I contacted them that if another lady is send I would refuse to see her and will also refuse to pay for her taxi in order to deter them from bait and switch. It is not cool. BTW, did the operator speak English when you called? Did the lady spoke English? Thanks.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961202]LaCelestina is the largest agency in Bogota and have relatively good looking ladies too so it is hard to eliminate them though I agree it is not cool that they send another girl whoever is available. May be the alternative is to tell them when contacting them that unless the very same lady in pictures is send I will refuse the lady with no payment. That way they think twice before doing the bait and switch. The only agency reviewed to always send really ladies in pictures in Solitasparati but unfortunately they have few English speaking and for someone like me who will be there for companionship and don't speak a word of Spanish then English speaking ladies is essential so I can't put aside this large agency. If you know of other agencies who will never do bait and switch please share.[/QUOTE]Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.
Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.
First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.
Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.
If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?
Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.
Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.
You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1961485]Good luck finding an agency that never does bait and switch. If you find them, ask if you can ride their unicorn.
Also good luck finding an escort who speaks English well enough to carry on a long conversation. While they do exist, very few are going to be fluent in English, unless you stay in the 1 million Peso and up per hour range.
First the bait and switch. Unless the escort agency is just one independent woman, bait and switch is going to happen. Every escort is not going to be available every time they are requested. Most people who are calling for an escort aren't going to wait 2 days for an appointment. So the person who does the bookings is going to accept your appointment and send someone. And you're going to end up paying them.
Your plan to tell them you won't pay just means they will not send anyone. Why should they waste their time with you? Why deal with the hassle because the website picture is 2 years old and you don't believe it's the same girl? Believe it or not, they have other customers who are a lot easier to deal with.
If they do send someone and you refuse to pay, even for the transportation, expect problems. Problem number 1, you just ended any chance of ever getting an escort from that agency (and often one person runs several different agencies). Problem number 2, you don't speak the language, you're a foreigner and you just refused to pay a debt you agreed to pay. If she makes a scene, guess whose side the Spanish speaking police officer is going to take? Guess what the hotel is going to think about a guest who disturbs other guests because he is hiring prostitutes and refusing to pay them?
Why would you go to Colombia to hire escorts that you don't want to have sex with, when you don't speak the language? That makes less sense than going to a vegetarian restaurant, demanding they cook you a steak and then just stare at the food without eating it.
Fluent English speakers are not common in Colombia. While many people speak some English, they aren't able to have a conversation. What you say you want, extended companionship without any sex, is going to require conversation. It requires conversation because the escort expects to show up, spend a few minutes talking and then have sex, followed by a little more talk, cleanup, get dressed, get paid and say chao. Most English speaking escorts know exactly enough English for greetings, a few compliments, discussing prices and saying goodbye.
You really need to rethink your plan. Go to Toronto. You'll spend about the same amount, you'll have no trouble finding companionship only escorts, there will be no language barrier, you don't have to worry about crime and the police won't bother you. Plus, if you're going in April, the weather will be the same or better than in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.
So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.
When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.
As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.
Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.
I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961531]Other site have consistency reviewed solitasparati as the agency who will send ladies in pictures and they alone have plenty of beautiful ladies though only 6 of them speak English.
So you are saying bait and switch is something acceptable in Colombia and happens every time? If clients refuse be & S then it won't happen so often.
When I call I will tell them exactly who I want. I tell them if she is not available then I go for the second choice and third and fourth and. Option until I reach the one who is available. I will be there two weeks and I have selected about 50 ladies which I plan to see less than half of them. If after giving them a long list and still they send me another lady this would be a deliberate attempt by them to deceive (and I also will tell them that after all these options if they send me another lady I won't pay anything in writing). They (the agency) will also receive bad reviews on all Colombia related review boards if in spite of all these they still carry out bait and switch.
As why I have chosen Colombia even though I don't want sex or sexual activities (I do wish her companionship and a dance and hugs and kisses but I am not ready for pay for sex. Call me a moron if you wish) because I have met a few Colombian ladies in Montreal (one married colleague and the rest in Montreal strip bars) and they are all beautiful and friendly. I can only spend a little time with them while in strip bar. I really love Colombian girls and want their companionship for many hours.
Yes I hope that I can find those who can carry out at least some broken conversation in English but your post is not encouraging I try to learn some Spanish then.
I don't know any Colombian lady or ladies in Toronto so what would be the purpose of going to Toronto! Also I believe in North America it is illegal to invite strippers home for companionship (even if no sex or any sexual things happen it is likely still illegal but I am not sure) and for sure I am not going to break the law of the land. Out of question.[/QUOTE]Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.
Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.
And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?
Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.
After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.
I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.
You remind me of a guy who wanted to marry the first stripper to give him a lap dance. I'm not trying to be insulting, but you are looking in the wrong place for the wrong thing.
Do yourself a favor and forget your plan. It won't work.
Go to Colombian Cupid and Latin American Cupid and Seeking Arrangements. Put up ads with some good pictures, pay the subscription and start communicating with the ones you like. You can find women who are interested in you, women who share your interests. You can find women who want to spend time with you, instead of women who just want you to pay them.
When you call an escort, you get someone who is paid to have sex. Having sex is what she's good at. Would you go to a strip club and pay a dancer to play the piano? Chances are she doesn't know how and doesn't want to. You can pay an escort for a strip tease, but paying her isn't going to create any chemistry, it isn't going to make her want to chat in a language she doesn't know well. It isn't going to make her like you.
You can spend time getting to know the women, finding out how well they handle English and learning some Spanish. Then you will have real experiences with Colombian women instead of sitting in a hotel room with a beautiful woman who can't wait to get her money and get away from you.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1961922]Solitasparati probably fulfills 300 appointments every week. How many reviews have you seen? 5? 10? 50? I'm sure they, along with other agencies, try to satisfy their customer's requests. But they also know the customer will accept whoever shows up. It's not always an attempt to deceive the customer, it's just business.
Are you under the impression that Colombian escort agencies are struggling? Desperate to please every customer? Bogota is a city of more than 10 million people. It is one of the top financial and business locations in South America. The escort agencies have plenty of customers.
And how many of those customers are going to read your bad reviews? Do you think the Bogatanos who see the same escort every 2 weeks are going to drop her, because you flew 4000 miles to see someone else? The foreign businessmen who call for an escort each time they hit town are going to change because you complain about a woman who you didn't even let in your room?
Maybe making threats to businesses is the way things are done in Montreal. I don't see that going over well in Bogota, but go right ahead and try. Don't pay any attention to any advice given to you. Ignore all the experiences of the people on the board. You clearly know all the answers.
After you, in English, demand a Spanish speaker meet all your requirements or face your bad reviews and refusal to pay, I'm certain everything will work out just like you want.
I almost want to schedule my stay in the same hotel, just for the entertainment value.[/QUOTE]The point I was making that clearly you didn't get was that (regardless of how many reviews I have seen for solitasparati) I haven't seen even one review indicating Bait and Switch unlike other agencies.
I didn't make threats. Review board like this are not for threats and retaliations to businesses if you think that or that I made threats you are wrong. Review boards like this are for sharing the good news about good escorts or agencies so that others know and enjoy the good time as well and as well as sharing the bad things about bad escorts / agencies so that they avoid and not to pay the same price you. That is wasting their time and money. It is a contribution rather than threats and I won't tell this to agency beforehand.
So somehow it is the agency (that you say all do bait and switch) and somehow in your post you made me the bad guy! Incredible! Bait and Switch is a bad practice and should not be encouraged or accepted as a norm (and I am not talking about escorts only but anything worse is be & S of an apartment not in pictures and that happens too and should be discouraged and others warned).
As for the other post thanks for advice but LOL I am coming for a two weeks trip and fun not to get married long distance on net who I don't know and spend the rest of my life with and if she divorces me and goes back home then take half my wealth (half the very little that I have).
In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.
Finally I know you mean well and your intention is to help out so I thank you very much for your responses and advice remembering people are different with different likes and dislikes and risk tolerance levels.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961960]In Colombia it appears escorts are very inexpensive and based on what I have seen I can fulfill my fantasy for 6 hours with an attractive lady who is likely a university student and classy and clean as good as the ones you meet in dance bars (likely one or two per day) for about $200-$300 or 500,000-900,000 COP to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). It would cost me more than 5 times that in Toronto not to mention that it is likely illegal too in North America and I have a very low risk tolerance level (I never break the law of the land). In the past I believe the name escort used to be non-sexual and she was going out with the guy to dance bars and official engagements or parties as girlfriends or even posed as wives and that is why they were called escorts (to escort someone out) later the sexual component was added but the name remained.[/QUOTE]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1962409]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.[/QUOTE]Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1962441]Well obviously you are on the ground with a thousand posts and more qualified to state the real situation than me who has never been to Colombia. That said some agencies declare them as university students (though that may be marketing I don't know) and those at solitasparati and few others have very reasonable rates. If what you say is true then they likely carry diseases so I am glad that I am seeking only companionship. That said many reviews I have read about Colombian escorts indicate many clients engaging in DATY and BJ (oral without condoms) with the escorts! In North America I have met many nude dancers in strip bars who dance in order to pay for their college / university and I know this as a fact as I have dated a few. I thought it may be a similar situation in Colombia as per description on their site describing their ladies as university students.[/QUOTE]I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1962409]If you think escort girls are more classy or clean, you are in for a rude awakening. They are all barrio girls with a dress and makeup on! This gives them the right to charge 2-3 x the going rate in Colombia? SMH.[/QUOTE]+1.
I've seen club girls working the street.
[QUOTE=Routard;1962633]I have met stunning escorts that gave great sex through escort sites. However, I could never make up a special relationship with them, as it is just what it is: one hour of sex in a hotelrooom. I would rather suggest you to go tho this club: Juan Pablo Zhivago. This club has a special atmosphere, very different from the other northern clubs with pushy waiters and loud music. Juan Pablo is more like a classy bar where you can talk to any lady and find out the one with mutual chemistry. Most don't speak english however, I hope you speak some kind of spanish. Most are indeed full time prostitutes, but if you have a close look to each of them, you might spot the true semi-pro that just tries to pay her studies. Try to spot the shy one, sitting alone, discrete, that doesn't make eye contact, no fake boobs, few make-up, normally dressed. It happenend often to me in this club. And if you take her out of the club, have a drink with her in Parque 93. You will have the companionship you are looking for ending up in genuine GFE at the end of the night. Take her phone, and next day make an appointment outside the club and treat her like a GF. I'm pretty sure you will get what you came to look for in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Priceless advice, I just land and I'm jet lag after 11 flight but I can't wait. I to might check out this bar. I'm staying inVvirrey.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1961960]...to spend time may be dance and dinner and maybe hugs and kisses, without any commitments or risks (and to me at least good time does not have to involve sex or sexual so people are different). I have a very low risk tolerance level.[/QUOTE]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1963116]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.[/QUOTE]I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.
Things like [URL]meetup.com[/URL] seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.
[QUOTE=Combo;1963159]I also don't understand targeting an escort service for a girl to keep you company. That would be about the last place I would look. The reason those sites say "university girls" or whatever is so guys think they're getting a girl that's not a run-of-the-mill prepago. Sure, some might be students. But not at a higher rate than a prepago you meet in any other venue. It's pure marketing.
Things like [URL]meetup.com[/URL] seem like a much better strategy. Heck, you might meet a girl that won't bill you per hour! Or the club Routard referenced.[/QUOTE]Or one of the sugar daddy or dating sites. But he's convinced the escorts are all university students, witty conversationalists, with excellent English skills, who don't have sex for money. They just provide companionship. Even though the escort websites all specify what sexual options each escort will provide.
At least some of the other options are being discussed for the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1960862]Do you speak Spanish? That is like $34 for a redbull vodka. I have never paid that much anywhere in Colombia. Ever!
Go to Atunes in Santa Fe. You will get a drink for around 5 k! The girls mill around and ST is around 60-70 k.[/QUOTE]I do speak Spanish and the cost was for a Vodka Red Bull, not a bottle of Vodka. The Red Bull wasn't included when purchasing a Vodka. It was my first night in Bogota so I simply decided to bite the bullet.
On Saturday I did take a cab to check out Pussy House in Chapineros but couldn't find it and didn't feel comfortable in that area, for instance a man was pissing on the sidewalk, you don't see that happening in Chico Norte. I considered going to Zona Tolerancia but decided against it because of the longer cabride and the fact that I was too pussy to go there when I didn't even feel comfortable / safe (not saying that it actually was dangerous) in Chapineros during the night.
I took a tour to see what places in Chapinero was opened on a Sunday. Casa Millenio and the house on the opposite both seemed closed with no one standing outside and the doors closed. So I took a walk to the area with a lot of casas between the 64th and 66th where you can find Palmeras, Mansion de la Placer and so on. The quality of the girls had declined, still worth it for 25 mil, but I decided to head for the "massage" places at calle 104 on cra 15. I did find it without any problems, I went into four of the places, just as in Chapinero daytime brothel district I wasn't impressed by the selection. One or two of the girls stood out by their looks, but not like earlier in the week. I was quoted 90-100 mil for an hour of sex, I decided to get it on with Julie from Venezuela. She seemed to be in her thirty's, short, decently cute and I liked her body. First the negative, it was CBJ, as usual in the places I've been to in Bogota. Now the positive, everything! She was pretty tight and most importantly, she gave 100%! From the moment we started to the finish after 60 minutes when the knock on the door came. It was GFE, PSE so I was totally finished afterwards.
I found it interesting that my best experience in Colombia was with a girl from Venezuela.
Overall I think Bogota is great for those wanting to fuck many decent looking girls without spending too much money. I myself prefer to maybe have one or two great fucks a day with a gorgeous girl which provides a stellar service. In some ways I think I might have been better off going to Madrid or Malaga. But I did the enjoy the weather and visiting a new place.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1963116]This is what you're looking for:
[URL]https://www.meetup.com/Idiomarte/[/URL]
From what you said, you just want to be in the company of good looking Colombian women.
Ambitious career-minded girls will want to speak English with you. It's possible that you encounter someone who'll escort, I mean, accompany you to enjoy the city.
The S in ISG stands for sex. We're here to discuss finding local women for oral sex, vaginal sex, anal sex, sex in a brothel, sex in a hotel. You're looking for the wrong thing in the wrong place. Not being facetious, just honest. Hope you have a good trip.[/QUOTE]Even though S in ISG stands for sex as you mentioned but I still find this forum useful ([blue][Message to Admin deleted][/blue]). For example I found out from this and other Bogota review site that solitasparati is a good reliable agency with young ladies and good looks (looks is what I am after not services). Also I found out that Lloyds Hotel apartment is likely the best I can find (girl friendly, inexpensive and in the safest location) beside some members like Routard, JjBee and yourself have provided me valuable info on other clubs and links where I may be able to find ladies for companionship only.
Thank you to all.
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So got this girl coming from agency, Kathy huge natural tits great body. But ill confirm when she has done her duty. 250 for BBBJ sex and taxis. Maybe a lot but I don't care she was hard to find. I will update later.
Kathy came to hotel, no problem about ID or ask for extra money. She spoke no English and was very shy. Body was nothing like photos she has had a kid and tits like my dogs ears. So I help undress her she gave a decent BBBJ. Pussy was tight but she smelled dirty. Can't understand why some girls just can't jump in shower first, if I could smell it I'm sure she could. I told her she looked different from her photo, she asked to see and yes a very nice old photo. I never had condom so I just said blow job is cool. I dragged her in shower she wanted to fuck without condom, that put me off so I got dryad and never came. Gave her candy buffalo wings and water when she left. Not so much of a thank you. Cute girl but you can tell she doesn't want to be there. I will upload agency photos of girls later.
Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.
Admirable custom, in any event. As a fallback, you can just invite people over early, or the night before, and wake up and start drinking. That's what I do.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1964154]Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.[/QUOTE]
So, it was my last day in Colombia. Based on reports here I decided to visit this place Juan Pablo Zhivago. Turned out it was really close to my apartment. It is on a quiet street and there is no sign, but there was a man standing outside who invited me in.
It was about 9 pm on Thursday. I sat at the counter and ordered a beer (30 mil). As it was said here, there is no pressure in this bar. All the girls presented themselves but left me alone after that.
There were about 12 chicas in the bar. Couple of them are really hot. Another 3 or 4 good looking. The others are average, but still no fatties or uglies.
I drunk my beer for 10 minutes and then invited one of the hot ones to join me. She was sitting alone, so I decided that she must be new here (maybe one of those students that just sell their bodies occasionally to pay the bills).
Her name is Sara, she has a petite body and nice be (or maybe even C) size boobs (all natural), roundish face, and that innocent look that immediately turns me on.
Anyway, I bought her a glass of Bailey's (35 mil) and we chatted for about 15 minutes. The girl is 20 years old. And she was indeed new in Zhivago, but worked in other places before. So, not so innocent after all. Claimed that she speaks English and studying German, but I haven't checked.
Finally, we talked business. She wanted 400 mil for a short time. I probably should've bargained, but I agreed on that price. Exit fee is 180 mil.
Back to my place. Girl's body didn't disappoint me, when she took off her dress. She also had one of the best looking pussies that I ever saw. Only CBJ unfortunately, but other than that the sex was great: passionate with a lot of kissing and moaning.
Massage shops.
Earlier that day I checked out massage places in Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. Visited out 5 shops. They quoted me 70-100 mil pesos for "servicio completo". All the girls were below average, and they expected me to fuck them in those tiny rooms on a massage table. I declined. Life should be better than this.
Anyway, I decided that Colombia is not really good for short trips (if you are looking for women of course). Organized prostitution means ugly girls or expensive (or both). And what the fuck with covered blowjobs everywhere?
Freelancers could be a good option, but requires a lot of time and some luck. Although I met one girl in Cali through Badoo. She provided a superb service for 100 mil. And she did a really good BBBJ. Unfortunately refused CIM, but I probably could've convinced her the next time. Too bad, I left the city before I could repeat.
Normal girls are really not easy and flacky. Especially when they find out, that you are there for just a short time.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1964154]Back in Scotland we like to do all day bar crawls on weekends. It's difficult to find a bar open before 12 here. Any guys have any info on bars open early. Feel free to join me.[/QUOTE]Check out Routard's excellent post on the day brothels in Chapinero. I'm sure some of the options serve alcohol.
After reading that last couple of reports, I am amazed at the insane prices some of you are paying. Whenever I go to Bogota, I never stray out of the Santa Fe area. There is action day and night and I never paid more than 70 k for a chica. A bit seedy sure, but the best bang for the money and you can find some real diamonds in the rough there.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1964319]After reading that last couple of reports, I am amazed at the insane prices some of you are paying. Whenever I go to Bogota, I never stray out of the Santa Fe area. There is action day and night and I never paid more than 70 k for a chica. A bit seedy sure, but the best bang for the money and you can find some real diamonds in the rough there.[/QUOTE]I believe the area you are recommending is very unsafe walking around especially for tourists day or night. It is a lot safer to get am apartment in Chapinero and call in escorts though more than twice the cost or pickup from recommendation bars like Zhivago and Lalos which are located in Chapinaro and no need to walk around to find them if a taxi is caught though more than 4 times more expensive. I am just explaining as why some may prefer to visit expensive bars or call expensive escorts as they may prefer safety to cost and I am one of them.
Well my first time in Colombia, I landed a super cool hotel B3 vierry. As many girls as you want day time. I even have the bar tender to call them. I have a friend she comes does my laundry speaks perfect English. She has never been asked or stopped for ID. It's a small hotel but is modern and super relaxed. Worth a look. And if you need help getting around if your a newbie like me I'll give you my friends details, she can help you with anything. Just take her for food and fun, she is a big advantage to a gringo that speaks poco Spanish.
Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and Spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1964993]Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]The main Bogota RLD is in the area known as Santa Fe. If you open up Google Maps and search "LA Piscina" you're there. During daytime the area is safe. Safe meaning you still have to be aware of pickpockets and scam artists, but you're unlikely to face a knife or gun. You still have to keep your wits about you, but you should be fine.
Most of the places girls are hanging out in front of aren't clubs. Some are short time hotels, some are just buildings where several girls share a cheap apartment. Cleanliness will vary, but you're not going to find any upscale accommodations.
There are 3 different zones where you should be looking. There are a couple of other zones, but aren't a good idea for tourists. Those zones are Santa Fe, Chapinero and Zona Norte.
Santa Fe is the bottom end of the options. On the plus side, it's possible to get a quickie for $10 USD, even less if you're not at all picky. There are also more options in the area than anywhere else in Bogota. There are some decent options, La Piscina, El Castillo, Atunes and several others, although the big clubs will cost much more. Still, by US standards they are a bargain. You won't find any fresh faced university girls and you definitely should check ID for any young girl off the street.
Chapinero is a step up, still a bargain price, but the average girl is better looking and the accommodations are better. Expect to spend $25 to $50 USD, for a younger, better looking girl in a nicer, cleaner room. There are plenty of Casas, clubs and massage places in the area and most of the area is reasonably safe day or night.
Zona Norte is where you'll find the top shelf girls, at top shelf prices. You can expect to pay at least $100 in the top clubs in the area, with door fee, room fee and chica fee, and your total could easily reach $200. There are other options in the area, such as the massage parlors where you can pay a much lower price.
Zona Norte has plenty of nice restaurants and upscale bars, a good place to hang out when you're not addressing the more basic needs. Chapinero also has lots of dining options and shopping options. Santa Fe is convenient to the old town museums and photo ops.
Two links you'll need:
Routard's "Everything you need to know about Bogota post-.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1911247&highlight=Milenio[/URL]#post1911247.
And World Travel 69's map overlays for Bogota-.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2205-Bogota-Lists&p=1675353&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1675353.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1964549]I believe the area you are recommending is very unsafe walking around especially for tourists day or night. It is a lot safer to get am apartment in Chapinero and call in escorts though more than twice the cost or pickup from recommendation bars like Zhivago and Lalos which are located in Chapinaro and no need to walk around to find them if a taxi is caught though more than 4 times more expensive. I am just explaining as why some may prefer to visit expensive bars or call expensive escorts as they may prefer safety to cost and I am one of them.[/QUOTE]By safe I mean you won't be held up by a gun or knife if you take the proper precautions. Don't wear anything flashy, jewelry etc. This goes will all parts of Colombia. There are sufficient reports for everyone to make their own decision.
How do you know what is safer if you have never been there before?
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1965084]By safe I mean you won't be held up by a gun or knife if you take the proper precautions. Don't wear anything flashy, jewelry etc. This goes will all parts of Colombia. There are sufficient reports for everyone to make their own decision.
How do you know what is safer if you have never been there before?[/QUOTE]I have done a lot of research for my possible spring trip from various related sites (likely the same reports you mentioned above) as how I know. But even without any reports usually the red light district in any country even safest ones like Holland is generally unsafe. It is not hard to conclude that sitting in a classy protected hotel with security guards around and calling in escorts is safer than walking around red light district looking for street sex workers in a generally known as unsafe country as per travel advisories provided.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1963972]Kathy came to hotel, no problem about ID or ask for extra money. She spoke no English and was very shy. Body was nothing like photos she has had a kid and tits like my dogs ears. So I help undress her she gave a decent BBBJ. Pussy was tight but she smelled dirty. Can't understand why some girls just can't jump in shower first, if I could smell it I'm sure she could. I told her she looked different from her photo, she asked to see and yes a very nice old photo. I never had condom so I just said blow job is cool. I dragged her in shower she wanted to fuck without condom, that put me off so I got dryad and never came. Gave her candy buffalo wings and water when she left. Not so much of a thank you. Cute girl but you can tell she doesn't want to be there. I will upload agency photos of girls later.[/QUOTE]Hi Scot,
Just curious as they appear to be so many beauties working as escorts in Bogota then why calling the one whose tits was like your dogs? Why you didn't call one of those ones in solitasparati or this one ([URL]http://www.prepagosbogota69.com/daniela.html[/URL]) or this one ([URL]http://escortsbogota.co/portfolio/leidy/[/URL]) or this one ([URL]http://lacelestina.co/escorts-prepagos-modelos-bogota-gina[/URL])? Are they also all fake or highly photo shopped? I don't know I have no experience with escorts in Bogota or elsewhere so as why I am curious to know.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1965122]I have done a lot of research for my possible spring trip from various related sites (likely the same reports you mentioned above) as how I know. But even without any reports usually the red light district in any country even safest ones like Holland is generally unsafe. It is not hard to conclude that sitting in a classy protected hotel with security guards around and calling in escorts is safer than walking around red light district looking for street sex workers in a generally known as unsafe country as per travel advisories provided.[/QUOTE]You can live it or read about it. Up to you.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1965546]You can live it or read about it. Up to you.[/QUOTE]This is the best answer I have ever read to answer the endless discussions about safety. I have visited 80 different countries including each from the top 10 most dangerous countries of the world. I have fucked probably 500 different girls, including the unavoidable AO, I practized most of existing extreme sports, took risks in my professional life. Regarding Colombia, druing the last 2 years, I have visited any corner of Colombia, the most remote areas, the most dangerous ares of the main cities, luckely, never ever happened to me or the people I love and live with, as I learned to protect my back. Yes, shit could have happened, but heck, what a life I had! Yes they can rob me, even kill me one day, but no one can ever take me back all the amazing experience I had in my life. .
[QUOTE=Routard;1965711]This is the best answer I have ever read to answer the endless discussions about safety. I have visited 80 different countries including each from the top 10 most dangerous countries of the world. I have fucked probably 500 different girls, including the unavoidable AO, I practized most of existing extreme sports, took risks in my professional life. Regarding Colombia, druing the last 2 years, I have visited any corner of Colombia, the most remote areas, the most dangerous ares of the main cities, luckely, never ever happened to me or the people I love and live with, as I learned to protect my back. Yes, shit could have happened, but heck, what a life I had! Yes they can rob me, even kill me one day, but no one can ever take me back all the amazing experience I had in my life. .[/QUOTE]What hasn't been said is the warnings about security are often outdated or exaggerated. This is especially true with red light districts.
Whenever you read reviews, first pay attention to the date of the review. For Bogota, most of the "too dangerous" reviews are 10 years old. Like any big city, there are risks to be aware of, but I will take Santa Fe over the worst areas of Chicago, a city 1/4 of the size of Bogota. That doesn't mean I would drink 10 shots of tequila and go stumbling around at 3 am, but I have no issues with walking through and checking things out.
The other thing to look for in reviews is attitude. Is the reviewer angry about something else and trashing everything?
Moralizing is another problem. Someone accidentally walks through Santa Fe and starts seeing the obvious prostitutes in every direction, maybe spots an exposed nipple, and hops online to preach. Of course, just seeing a bunch of women in scanty (especially by Bogota daytime standards) clothing, doesn't seem bad enough, so the street gets populated with heroin addicts, shooting up and knife wielding gangsters [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] and pillaging. Somehow the reviewer manages to escape with his life without contracting a horrible disease and feels the need to warn the world.
If you're aware and alert, there is no reason to avoid Santa Fe during the daytime, or in the evening if you stick to the main streets, use taxis and use some common sense.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1964993]Thinking of coming to Colombia soon for the first time. Have been looking at some videos online taken walking around the RLD of Bogota and Medellin. From what I can tell the RLD in Bogota is downtown, is that right? What I was wondering is, are these areas safe to walk around during the day for a gringo, albeit a dark haired and spanish speaking one such as me. I don't see any gringo's on the streets on those videos. What about the places the girls are hanging out in front of, are they clean and safe for some daytime action? I still have to do most of my research, and I am sure there are loads of clubs which are safer / better etc, but just looking at these videos I have already seen a few women who are just my type, dark hair, pretty, busty and curvy, skinny barbie girls are not my type at all! Any advice would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I live 5 minutes walk from Santa Fe- I'm a 54 yr old gringo. I speak Spanish OK. But they know I'm a gringo after I talk for a minute.
I have a tough appearance which probably helps me.
I went out last night met up with one of my Streety Sweeties BBJ- Hot quick session with Kassandra Hot 18 yr old paisa $40 mil!
Anyhow. Just be careful-- I go all the time-- don't pull your phone out and lose your attention to what is around you.
Have an attitude where you will not be intimidated-- Don't get sucked into perps trying to talk to you-- Don't be Afraid to ignore people. But Just be aware.
I have been here 6+ yrs had a phone taken out of my pocket once.
I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the Expensive casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English-.
I have known him for 6 yrs -- he always drive me too the airport when I make my USA trips.
He charges 70 mil an hour for driving and a small fee for intros-- PM me for his number-.
JjBee62 thanks for all your great advice! Had a look around there on google maps, think was taken maybe early morning as the streets are quite empty apart from some chicas here and there. Like I said I still need to research a lot, but I see many of the types I like, curvy and natural looking. On the escort websites for Bogota I see endless skinny Barbie types who all look the same to me, not my types at all. Are there any clubs with more BBW types, tits and ass? That is my type! More likely maybe in a club in Santa Fe than in Zona Norte maybe? From my experience the more expensive the place, the skinnier the chicas get! I note the discussions between you guys about the area being dangerous or not during the day, but I don't see the fun in a mongering vacation of just calling escorts to come to your apartment or hotel, you experience nothing that way (except for the sex of course).
Just so I understand correctly, for Chapinero and Zona Norte you are referring to clubs, right? Not chicks standing in front of short term hotels? Is that action reserved to the Santa Fe area? Another thing, when does the weather cheer up a bit, I don't want to be burnt to a crisp but will think twice about coming if it's overcast any rainy every day in Bogota and Medellin. I get enough of that living on Belgium! Is the weather better in Jan or Feb than it is now? And the elevation, thin air, has that affected anybody's mongering abilities, as it is at 2640 metres, and I am getting on a bit!
Info on Bogota is as recent as 2015 and it is not safe. Not much point to hide the facts as it may encourage some people to get too relaxed or loosen guards. Over 3000 street robberies in Chapinero alone which has a small population of 150,000 only and is supposed to be the safest place in entire Colombia (or that is what my potential airbnb hosts told me).
[URL]http://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-statistics/[/URL]
I have also read in reviews that people often complaining about looks too! Though I see plenty of beautiful pictures in Bogota escorts sites! (I attached a few in my previous post) so why not calling them instead? This makes me wonder and suspect that definitely most and likely all these beautiful pictures are fake? Or pictures or very old pictures? And to me looks is the only factor as I don't take services (I am seeking companionship only). And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1965870]Info on Bogota is as recent as 2015 and it is not safe. Not much point to hide the facts as it may encourage some people to get too relaxed or loosen guards. Over 3000 street robberies in Chapinero alone which has a small population of 150,000 only and is supposed to be the safest place in entire Colombia (or that is what my potential airbnb hosts told me).
[URL]http://colombiareports.com/bogota-crime-statistics/[/URL]
I have also read in reviews that people often complaining about looks too! Though I see plenty of beautiful pictures in Bogota escorts sites! (I attached a few in my previous post) so why not calling them instead? This makes me wonder and suspect that definitely most and likely all these beautiful pictures are fake? Or pictures or very old pictures? And to me looks is the only factor as I don't take services (I am seeking companionship only). And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.[/QUOTE]Bogota has a population of roughly 12 million, with a high population density. While Chapinero may have 150,000 population, it is surrounded on 3 sides by the rest of the city, with a lot of street traffic. If they have 3000 robberies per year, that's just over 8 per day. Figuring roughly 90,000 additional people per day (visitors and employees), it gives you about a 1 in 30,000 chance of being victim of a crime.
Of course, that's a low estimate because there are a lot of businesses in Chapinero and a lot of visitors. That is probably too high of a risk for you, but for most people it's acceptable.
For comparison, let's do the Chapinero per capita crime rate, 3000/150,000 = 2000/100,000. Now let's compare to the province of Quebec, Canada, 5909/100,000 (2006 statistics). So, the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Chapinero is 3 times safer than the 2nd safest province in Canada, considered by most to be one of the safest countries in the world. Clearly we should all be terrified.
Wherever you travel there are risks and there are ways to reduce the risks. If you're too worried about the risks, then stay home. The last thing Bogota, or any other city needs is a paranoid tourist who is terrified to leave his hotel room (not realizing that any escort who comes into your room may rob you. Also not realizing that thieves and scam artists hang out at the airport, because they know the incoming tourists are carrying lots of cash).
You want to stay in a safe, secure apartment, that will not check the ID of any of the roughly 25 strangers you plan to invite to your room and you're worried about safety?
You do whatever you think will work for you. You're obviously the expert. However, until you actually go to Bogota, walk the streets and visit the different neighborhoods, don't try to tell the people who combined have spent thousands of hours there, how safe it is.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1965950]Bogota has a population of roughly 12 million, with a high population density. While Chapinero may have 150,000 population, it is surrounded on 3 sides by the rest of the city, with a lot of street traffic. If they have 3000 robberies per year, that's just over 8 per day. Figuring roughly 90,000 additional people per day (visitors and employees), it gives you about a 1 in 30,000 chance of being victim of a crime.
Of course, that's a low estimate because there are a lot of businesses in Chapinero and a lot of visitors. That is probably too high of a risk for you, but for most people it's acceptable.
For comparison, let's do the Chapinero per capita crime rate, 3000/150,000 = 2000/100,000. Now let's compare to the province of Quebec, Canada, 5909/100,000 (2006 statistics). So, the incredibly dangerous neighborhood of Chapinero is 3 times safer than the 2nd safest province in Canada, considered by most to be one of the safest countries in the world..[/QUOTE]You are inventing statistics. As per link below for 2015 comparison there has been 48 robberies per 100,000 in Quebec. Even if you add all assault types it is still about 600 per 100,000 significantly less than 2000 for Chapinero.
[URL]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal50b-eng.htm[/URL]
There are travel advisories for Colombia and Bogota in place as we speak and the best comparison on relative safety are the two link below.
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Bogota[/URL]
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Montreal[/URL]
However, if you wish to deny the facts and statistics then that is your privilege but please don't advise others falsely as how safe Bogota is so that they make an inform decision regarding their travel plans and where or which parts of Bogota to visit and have their guards down.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1965870] And Routard's comment surprised me too as he was the one who recommended Zhivago (and again thank you for that) costing about 600 mil with fees and when someone asked why anyone would pay that much instead of 70 mil in Santa FE I defended his recommendation saying that may be some of us prefer safety (of North Bogota) to relatively unsafe Santa Fe but it appears that Routard wasn't impressed with my response based on his response! My apology.[/QUOTE]Don't worry, it was just a comment for my own life. Crime statitics will not prevent me from living my life and going anywhere in Colombia. But I understand perfectly that for other people safety is more important, so I recommend them other areas than Santa Fe. Anyone his own life. Most important is that you enjoy your stay, return home safely with good memories from Colombia.
I don't think you will have any trouble with the heat.
Yes to the question about chicas standing in front of motels in Santa Fe and not in the North.
January and February would be their Summer.
[QUOTE=Coupe66;1965819]
Just so I understand correctly, for Chapinero and Zona Norte you are referring to clubs, right? Not chicks standing in front of short term hotels? Is that action reserved to the Santa Fe area?
Another thing, when does the weather cheer up a bit, I don't want to be burnt to a crisp but will think twice about coming if it's overcast any rainy every day in Bogota and Medellin. I get enough of that living on Belgium! Is the weather better in Jan or Feb than it is now? And the elevation, thin air, has that affected anybody's mongering abilities, as it is at 2640 metres, and I am getting on a bit![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1966031]You are inventing statistics. As per link below for 2015 comparison there has been 48 robberies per 100,000 in Quebec. Even if you add all assault types it is still about 600 per 100,000 significantly less than 2000 for Chapinero.
[URL]http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tableaux/sum-som/l01/cst01/legal50b-eng.htm[/URL]
There are travel advisories for Colombia and Bogota in place as we speak and the best comparison on relative safety are the two link below.
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Bogota[/URL]
[URL]https://www.numbeo.com/crime/in/Montreal[/URL]
However, if you wish to deny the facts and statistics then that is your privilege but please don't advise others falsely as how safe Bogota is so that they make an inform decision regarding their travel plans and where or which parts of Bogota to visit and have their guards down.[/QUOTE]This.
By no stretch of the imagination is Bogotá, and especially SF, even close to safe, and it does a tremendous disservice to other to imply otherwise.
You probably won't get kidnapped by the FARC these days, but you do stand a significant risk of a paseo millonario, theft, and mugging at knifepoint and should take appropriate precautions.
I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.
70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.
Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.
Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.
I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.
I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.
Why do these kinds of posts bother me?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1966239]I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.
70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.
Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.
Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.
I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.
I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.[/QUOTE]
While the Northern parts of Bogota are safer, it's by no means a walk in the park. I've had many lady friends and student friends robbed at knife point or with a gun. Most occur near the bus stops or around the colleges and they usually work in teams so be aware of who's looking at you. Student backpacks are full of phones and laptops and they know it. In fact, many of them have been robbed multiple times. I cruised SF with Woodman a few years ago and his advice is spot on. However I felt the later it got the more vulnerable I felt. My advice would be to be out of there by 8 or 9 pm. Also, remember its always advisable to call your own taxi then to jump into any street cab. I have been traveling to Colombia 5 or 6 times a year for about 6 or 7 years now and have never encountered a problem but I still will never let my guard down even in the barrios of Chico Norte or Chico Navarra, where I usually stay.
Hi dear members,
This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).
It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.
It also is recommended below.
Bogotá.
Hotel El Virrey.
Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.
That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.
However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.
So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.
[QUOTE=Chesscat;1966503]Why do these kinds of posts bother me?[/QUOTE]Knowing Woodman I doubt he's on commision with the driver, even if he was, so what! This kind of info is very valuable for a newbee or even a seasoned travelers first Bogota visit. It enables a first time Bogota visitor to hit the ground running, a way to be spoon fed the lay of the land.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1966239]I want to take this opportunity to Help my Driver / friend Jairo get work-- he transports girls to all the UpScale casas up north and can hook you up-- But he doesn't speak a lick of English.
70 mil an hour for transportation to all casas.
Personal intro to chicas $50 mil.
Chicas start around $300 mil + transport- I believe that would be 2 hour date. Attached just a few chicas. There will be more- Jairo has to get photos -- he has Many Hot Chica contacts.
I will Field all requests for Jairo-- so PM me.
I'm available for guiding and reservations / travel arrangements.[/QUOTE]FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1966518]Hi dear members,
This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).
It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.
It also is recommended below.
Bogot.
Hotel El Virrey.
Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.
That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.
However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.
So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.[/QUOTE]There is no reply because it has been discussed frequently that hotels are generally not girl friendly in Colombia and many go the apartment route. If you really want to risk hotels, at least book for 2. And even then it is no sure thing.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1967254]FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.[/QUOTE]I am in Bogota once a month. If this cabby charges 7000 pesos and hour that is cheap. If he charges 70,000 then even the hotel cabs charge no more than 20,000 to $25,000 pesos per hour and $70000 is clear ripoff.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1967258]There is no reply because it has been discussed frequently that hotels are generally not girl friendly in Colombia and many go the apartment route. If you really want to risk hotels, at least book for 2. And even then it is no sure thing.[/QUOTE]Thank you for clarifications though I have read from established members like Routard here that in Chapinero hotels are generally girl friendly as why I asked. In apartments too the visitors must check-in at the reception (apparently in Bogota all apartments have doormen and security at entrance likely because of lack of security in the region). The doorman on duty calls the apartment via intercom and asks if the resident is expecting someone named (visitor's name). It is for safety and is a good thing but if you plan to call for 2 to 3 companions every day for a short time like I do then this may raise some suspensions with the security. Generally I have read exchange of money for sex is only allowed in designated areas and is illegal elsewhere like in Chapinaro. Now this may not be enforced (and I don't intend to take part in sex or sexual activity just companionship) but lack of enforcement doesn't make it legal.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1967254]FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.[/QUOTE]My thoughts exactly. In addition, he'd be paying much higher prices by having a third party (Woodman's contact) involved.
[QUOTE=Hioctane;1967254]FYI, pimping is illegal in Colombia. There is a fine line with getting paid to introduce and pimping. Sounds like another Jake in the works.[/QUOTE]I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.
Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.
By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.
[QUOTE=Marglo;1967334]I am in Bogota once a month. If this cabby charges 7000 pesos and hour that is cheap. If he charges 70,000 then even the hotel cabs charge no more than 20,000 to $25,000 pesos per hour and $70000 is clear ripoff.[/QUOTE]I know many Bianco taxi drivers charge that. I'm not collecting the fare and it may be negotiable. Anyhow he has intimate knowledge of the casa in the north. Like I said I'm just trying to help my friend.
This is what newbies and old timers need. Someone to trust to drive you around.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1967388]I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.
Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.
By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.[/QUOTE]
I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1967787]I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?[/QUOTE]I recently stayed in an Airbnb at Carrera 18, close to the Four Points Sheraton. Was a nice size place (52 sq meters), safe neighborhood, had a doorman, but he didn't ask for the girls ID or register her when I took her up. Cost was about $50 a night. It's called "Lovely modern apartment. Easy access to 93 park" on Airbnb if you want to take a look.
Will be posting a full report for Bogota shortly.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1967787]I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?[/QUOTE]Should be safe and the men there are very friendly. You are going to confuse the neighborhood by having women come to visit. Probably will disappoint a few guys as well.
Chapinero Alto is Bogota's main gay neighborhood.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1967787]I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?[/QUOTE] Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1967388]I'm just trying to help Jairo he is a hard working family man --I'm not making anything-.
Maybe I'll get some guide work. But I'm pretty busy with my own business so It's really not that important to me.
By the way Jairo is a Great driver and he knows a lot of girls. I hope to have some more photos soon.[/QUOTE]I was referring to Jairo. Getting paid to refer girls will get really dicy. Especially advertising it publicly like this.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1966518]Hi dear members,
This question has been asked many times but very seldom answered. People asking for a Chica friendly hotel in Bogota. I share what I can (based on hearsay because I haven't been there myself yet).
It is recommendation here recently that Lloyds apartment Hotel and B3 Virrey are both girl friendly (many thanks to those who posted the recommendations). I also read somewhere to avoid Embassy hotel as they take pictures of your visitors and treat them badly.
It also is recommended below.
Bogot.
Hotel El Virrey.
Sofitel Victoria Regia, Carrera 13#85-80 Cundinamarca.
That above two hotels are girl friendly, you can find other cities and countries too.
However, the first one is in a questionable area and second one is more than I can afford for a room.
So if you do know of any other in North parts of Bogota please let us all know.[/QUOTE]Tryp by Wyndham Usaquen.
I stayed here last February and did not have a problem bringing a lady to my room two nights in a row. I usually book the room for 2 when I travel. The lady was well dressed both times she came and we did not have a problem. All that being said, the lobby is small, so you're not going to sneak anyone in and someone dressed provocatively may get a different reception.
[QUOTE=Routard;1968041]Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.[/QUOTE]The location he is talking about is Carrera 72 near Calle 2. Probably the worst thing about the location is that it's always going to be an uphill walk to get back there. Safe area, quiet area, some nice restaurants not too far away, but that uphill walk, if you're not used to the altitude, can be rough.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1967346]Thank you for clarifications though I have read from established members like Routard here that in Chapinero hotels are generally girl friendly as why I asked. In apartments too the visitors must check-in at the reception (apparently in Bogota all apartments have doormen and security at entrance likely because of lack of security in the region). The doorman on duty calls the apartment via intercom and asks if the resident is expecting someone named (visitor's name). It is for safety and is a good thing but if you plan to call for 2 to 3 companions every day for a short time like I do then this may raise some suspensions with the security. Generally I have read exchange of money for sex is only allowed in designated areas and is illegal elsewhere like in Chapinaro. Now this may not be enforced (and I don't intend to take part in sex or sexual activity just companionship) but lack of enforcement doesn't make it legal.[/QUOTE]The general rule of thumb in Colombia is that the higher the stars, the less girl friendly a hotel is. Some 5 star hotels won't even let girls in. Others will charge you the price of the room for a girl. Guest policies change all the time too. It is just not worth the headache.
In Colombia, all high rise apartments have doormen. I don't know if it is for safety reasons or whatever. Most will call you if a girl comes. Very few if any will check ID. However, if you tip, they will pretty much do anything you want! If you plan to have lots of girls over, I would get friendly with the doormen and tip them.
Paying for sex is legal in Colombia. Just be discreet and you will be fine.
These 2 Viagra products have the Woodman Seal of Approval- They Work Great for going on a pussy tear. I like the chewable half a tab is good for 12+ hours.
The spray is good but kinda yuck tasting.
Good Price for the chewable 20 mil for 2 50 MG tabs at the corner of Calle 22 and 7th ave.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1967787]I decided against hotels and now am about to rent an apartment in Chapinero Alto I think on Callie 72 Carrier 1 or 2 not sure. I really like the apartment but what I read tells me that around Parque 93 is safer so I am two-hearted as I haven't found such a great apartment around parque 93 and usually it is more expensive. Would you experienced people on the ground say that Chapinero Alto is safe enough at least to walk daytime? Or early evenings as well?[/QUOTE]That part of Chapinero is kinda remote -- Hotel Grace is Better Near restaurants, a Good supermarket, Transmilenio, Daytime casas.
Catch Transmilenio at 63 d or 57th to Santa Fe 15 min.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/The-Grace-Hotel-646336122123645/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1967513]I know many Bianco taxi drivers charge that. I'm not collecting the fare and it may be negotiable. Anyhow he has intimate knowledge of the casa in the north. Like I said I'm just trying to help my friend.[/QUOTE]Just want to add, my Rich Venezuelan friend and I used to go to all the casas in the North 2-3 times a week. That is how I met Jairo and got to go to all the casas. I would not go now as I can get the same quality on the streets and clubs of Santa Fe. And my Rich friend who used to pay for everything is not around. He was a maniac and he died of a cocaine overdose RIP Jose.
[QUOTE=Routard;1968041]Your adress is confusying, but this looks like Rosales, or Zona G. It's one of the best neighborhood, as even the president has his appartment here. Zona G is where you find the best restaurants of Bogota. It's the favorite outgoing area for elder people, as there are no bars and discos like in Zona T or Parque 93. Not my favorite place, not fun enough, but yes it it safe.[/QUOTE]Yeah, agreed. 72&1/2 is a bit off the beaten track. P93 is much more happening and would be my preference.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1968282]That part of Chapinero is kinda remote -- Hotel Grace is Better Near restaurants, a Good supermarket, Transmilenio, Daytime casas.
Catch Transmilenio at 63 d or 57th to Santa Fe 15 min.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/The-Grace-Hotel-646336122123645/[/URL][/QUOTE]Also Head north to Zona Rosa / Parque 93 in taxi or TransMilenio.
Transmilenio is a great way to get around-- Sometimes the quickest too. But it can get Super Crowded at peak -- I mean Crazy. But you really don't want to be going anywhere at peak rush hour.
The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.
Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1968374]
Transmilenio is a great way to get around-- Sometimes the quickest too. But it can get Super Crowded at peak ...[/QUOTE]And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya!
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1969161]And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya![/QUOTE]Never had a problem, even the times when it was packed so tight we were all exchanging bodily fluids by osmosis. Then again I don't carry a wallet, minimize the cash I carry, split it between front pockets and keep aware.
But, if you like to carry a phonemail or wallet in your back pockets, you might not keep them long.
One trick is to be patient. If the bus you want is crowded (I won't say full, because there is no such thing as a full Transmilenio. There's always room for another 853 people.), just wait. Learn which routes stop at, or near your desired stop. Chances are one will be less crowded, or one will stop at the next station, where you can hop an empty bus back.
If you're not in a hurry, take a bus in the opposite direction, until you can grab the right bus with still empty seats. Easier to protect your pockets while sitting.
If you are on a bus that gets packed, don't worry about your stop. Keep your seat until the crowd thins, then backtrack. At most you'll lose an hour and you can hop back and forth between buses all you want, as long as you don't exit a station. For 2000 cop, it's a bargain.
Of course if you're in a rush and every second counts, you probably shouldn't be in Bogota.
[QUOTE=Sixty9;1968697]The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.
Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?[/QUOTE]It's Tadalafil genérico. But you can just say cialis genérico. It's still not cheap but cheaper. I don't remember the price exactly. All the farmacias carry it as well as generic Viagra.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1969161]And is a pickpocket's paradise: keep ya wits about ya![/QUOTE]If you put things in inner pockets and ride off peak. No Problem at all. I ride all the time.
[QUOTE=BaldeRojo;1969169]It's Tadalafil genrico. But you can just say cialis genrico. It's still not cheap but cheaper. I don't remember the price exactly. All the farmacias carry it as well as generic Viagra.[/QUOTE]Toured a few Pharmacy's a few trips back in Bogota and it seemed to me to be a little cheaper than the States but way more than in CR or Rio or Peru.
Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.
Thanks so much!
[QUOTE=Writer954;1970070]Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.
Thanks so much![/QUOTE]There is no chica fees for apartments when rented through airbnb (or elsewhere) I don't think. This is the first time I hear though this could happen with hotels in Bogota. I search for apartments in Bogota for weeks and contacted many and never came across one asking for chica fees expect may be some would charge extra for more than one guest chica or otherwise (and some say extra guest free) and that is for overnight stay. That said I didn't tell them directly about escorts visiting but just told them I may have visitors during my stay and with the exception of one (out of 50) they all said visitors are okay but they have to check in at reception (no ID left unlike hotels) and the security will call me and ask for permission. That said loud parties for all and overnight stay for some not allowed. Also my case may be different as I am seeking companionship and not sex or any kind of sexual activity just fully dressed companionship and limited wine and chocolate, so I assured my landlord there will be no disturbance of any kind or loud music or overnight stay. And in return they assured me that I can have visitors without any issues. Hope this helps.
[QUOTE=Writer954;1970070]Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.
Thanks so much![/QUOTE]This is a nice place in a Nice section of Chapinero.
[URL]https://www.facebook.com/646336122123645/photos/a.646340982123159.1073741827.646336122123645/788609424562980/?type=1&theater[/URL]
Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.
[QUOTE=Writer954;1970070]Has anyone rented a chica friendly vacation apartment in Chapinero? One without chica fees. I was looking on air bnb and flipkey. This will be my first trip to Bogota. However, I have had plenty of luck finding these in Santa Marta, Baranquilla and Cartagena.
Thanks so much![/QUOTE]Okay, thanks to you and BaldeRojo for the Information.
It seems that it will cost more than in Republica Domincana but still less than in Western Europe there ist dificult tu buy a Cialis generica.
Either Medellin or Bogota.
Medellin is smaller and easier to get around.
Bogota has more things to offer other than just getting laid.
Cali would be better than Cartagena for action and cheaper.
Safer, that depends on you.
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;1970260]Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PepolesBuddy;1970260]Which city is best for mongering? I'm looking for something similar to San Jose Costa Rica. Hoping to find something safer and cheaper.[/QUOTE]If you're looking for something similar to San Jose, Costa Rica, I suggest San Jose, Costa Rica.
The problem you will have is that you'll be too busy complaining that the new place isn't like San Jose, to enjoy the new place.
If having a tropical beach handy is important, Cartagena is your place. It's not cheap by Colombia standards, but many enjoy it.
If you don't want the high heat and humidity, Cali or Medellin would be good choices. Not too hot to walk around midday, comfortable temperature at night. Cali is a bit rougher than Medellin.
If you pick Bogota, take a jacket. You will need it most days, especially during the rainy season. Bogota can be intimidating. It's a big city with a very high population density. It has lots of options.
I suggest figuring out which climate you prefer first.
Back in Bogotá and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1970765]Back in Bogot and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.[/QUOTE]It always seems you have to chase down the ones you want, but the ones you don't want are all over you.
New member here, therefore my first posting. Before l begin, l want to thank everyone here for their valuable information, so many of you.
After watching an episode of Narcos with prostitutes (erotic as hell) and stumbling across this site, l decided to take a trip to just check out Bog and Mde.
I am East Indian in my 40's living in Estados Unidos, avid traveler and never done anything like this ever. Flew to Bog got a hotel near the national museum and made my way to the zona tolerancia the first night.
I was nervous at first after the bad rep it has from many posters here, but l decided to go anyways. And boy was l glad. The key is to get a drink be patient and you would always find your type. I have never had such an amazing time. My favs were Troyas, Fiebre and Paisas. I was there everyday for 3 nights and decided to try the ones in Zona Rosa. I had no problem hanging out in Zona Tolerancia even around midnight. People were friendly and very helpful. Was able to get original Cialis off the counter. My first time taking it and WOW.
Stayed 2 nights at the Sofitel. I walked into Piscina Norte which was nearby and was quoted 700000 K. I was shocked, and the Chica was about the same as l had in SF where l paid 70000 k. Outrageous prices and the same in El Padrino. And my adventures continued in Mde l had such a great time there too. Incredible time.
By the way l don't speak a word of Spanish, and used Google translate so do not let that discourage you from going. The hotels l stayed at were chica friendly. I had 3 that l called from a website and there were escorted by the hotel staff to my room.
Taxis were cheap and l had no problem flagging one from the street. I am light skinned therefore blended with the crowd. I can't wait to go back.
Thanks to everyone here. Feel free to ask me anything.
Was all around Santa Fe tonight (Tuesday) Nice Selection of Street Girls- Was with a friend and we went to Paisas, Fiebre, La Casona, Troya and all the rest-- Most were quiet with some Hot Girls 6's-7's-8's+- Troya was really happening with 20-25+ girls Lotsa Hotties- ratio was maybe 1.5 to 1 (men to women) I negotiated a deal for my friend for 70 mil.
I just Love Troya club with always strippers and Real lap dances going on- Hot chicas getting naked a table away in Full contact-- Just a bacchanal.
Will be out there tomorrow night with another friend.
Spent 5 hours with a client in Santa Fe mostly in Troya and Fiebre.
So many girls I wanted to fuck!
At least 50% of the girls at those 2 clubs.
I really love Fiebre nice high ceilings with balconies- So much action strippers and super hot lap dance happening all around. The whole time Hotties walking by flirting.
At one point a really busty Latina shook me down for a drink and was teasing me showing me her tits and pussy- I tried to grab it.
A big Colombian custom is to have 1 chica do a lap dance for 2-4 guys at once. It's fantastic!
I sit in the Club and I feel like I'm Ancient Rome or WestWorld- Just off the hook!
Weather you Bang a Street or Club girl in SF you use a room there.
-If the maid is there when you get to the room-- Always give her / him $1-$3 mil+ they may give you a few extra minutes before they knock.
Also if everything is good and you missed them on the way in flip them a mil or 2- It will pay off in the future if you go back.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1970765]Back in Bogot and swung by Pussy House the other night. I'd totally forgotten how passive Colombian WGs can be about engaging with johns. On the one hand it's nice to not have to be fighting them off all the time, but I really don't want to be chasing around the fucking room after a girl I like when I could just be sitting down enjoying a drink.[/QUOTE]Eye of the Tiger.
Had a great time hanging out with the Woodman. If you definitely want a wingman, he's a good choice. A good guy and knowledgeable! The clubs were fun, some jamming and some not. It was hard to figure out which one's were going to be hot that night, but everything is within walking distance of each other. Great places for cheap quickies with hot girls!
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1971584]Eye of the Tiger.[/QUOTE]Huh?
(obligatory extra unnecessary characters).
Here a seasoned gent in Chapinero for a few weeks available as your wingman.
My Spanish is pretty good and have a lot of experience in America Latina.
I do not know Bogota well but willing to explore.
Two guys are safer than one.
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We were two of us, have fun with friends in Santa Fe, Club La Piscina. The girls are very nice there Latina style. Evening was great. When we went home, my friend is from Germany wanted to go even look into other clubs. It was about 1:15 in the morning. I went for a taxi to the hotel. He was running around Santa Fe in one of the lower streets attacked him, smashed his head, took his phone, sneakers and money he had in himself. At night, the Santa Fee extremely dangerous, and there are policemen. Be careful and go not alone. We will not walk over there already. Zona Rosa is much safer.
[QUOTE=Stranlers;1972582]Dave here a seasoned gent in Chapinero for a few weeks available as your wingman.
My Spanish is pretty good and have a lot of experience in America Latina.
I do not know Bogota well but willing to explore.
Two guys are safer than one.[/QUOTE]Hi,
I will arrive in BOG today.
How to contact you to talk about going somewhere?
Regards.
[QUOTE=Obchodnik;1972722]Hi,
We were two of us, have fun with friends in Santa Fe, Club La Piscina. The girls are very nice there Latina style. Evening was great. When we went home, my friend is from Germany wanted to go even look into other clubs. It was about 1:15 in the morning. I went for a taxi to the hotel. He was running around Santa Fe in one of the lower streets attacked him, smashed his head, took his phone, sneakers and money he had in himself. At night, the Santa Fee extremely dangerous, and there are policemen. Be careful and go not alone. We will not walk over there already. Zona Rosa is much safer.[/QUOTE]Some may suggest that violence is a thing of the past in Colombia. This is a disservice to members and tourists to say that, Yes it is less likely to be kidnapped by terrorists but violent crimes including robbery and assaults is same or worse. Statistics shows even more violent crimes in Chapinero (where zone Rosa is located) than Santa Fe (I did attach a link before in one of my posts). Avoid all areas of Bogota after dark Especially late at night. Your friend is either too courageous (a big guy who can very well defend himself like the James bonds we see in movies) or too stupid to walk around at 1:15 am in Santa Fe Colombia.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1968281]These 2 Viagra products have the Woodman Seal of Approval- They Work Great for going on a pussy tear. I like the chewable half a tab is good for 12+ hours.
The spray is good but kinda yuck tasting.
Good Price for the chewable 20 mil for 2 50 MG tabs at the corner of Calle 22 and 7th ave.[/QUOTE]Wow! So there are both Sildenafil? Was this available at an actual pharmacy?
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1972941]Some may suggest that violence is a thing of the past in Colombia. This is a disservice to members and tourists to say that, Yes it is less likely to be kidnapped by terrorists but violent crimes including robbery and assaults is same or worse. Statistics shows even more violent crimes in Chapinero (where zone Rosa is located) than Santa Fe (I did attach a link before in one of my posts). Avoid all areas of Bogota after dark Especially late at night. Your friend is either too courageous (a big guy who can very well defend himself like the James bonds we see in movies) or too stupid to walk around at 1:15 am in Santa Fe Colombia.[/QUOTE]This.
If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1972971]Wow! So there are both Sildenafil? Was this available at an actual pharmacy?[/QUOTE]Yes- Most pharmacies.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1972973]This.
If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.[/QUOTE]If you think walking around, alone, at 1 am in any city of more than 10 million people, is safe, you're not smart enough to be let out of the house without adult supervision. Especially in the red light district.
However, to single out Bogota, as if the same thing wouldn't have happened in almost any comparable neighborhood in any major city, is doing Bogota a disservice.
Bad things happen when you do stupid things, no matter where you are.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1972988]If you think walking around, alone, at 1 am in any city of more than 10 million people, is safe, you're not smart enough to be let out of the house without adult supervision. Especially in the red light district.
However, to single out Bogota, as if the same thing wouldn't have happened in almost any comparable neighborhood in any major city, is doing Bogota a disservice.
Bad things happen when you do stupid things, no matter where you are.[/QUOTE]I can walk around at any time in any Canadian city and feel safe though you may argue that there is no city of 10 million in Canada and you are right but I have walked around in London England late at nights when I was younger (about 20 years ago) and felt safe and never mugged, robbed and assaulted. I must have done that at least 100 times and I think London has 10 million residents. New York is not as safe as London and I have never walked around in New York but I have a feeling Bogota is less safe. My point yes you are right in any city of 10 million it is not safe to walk around alone late at night but it is a lot worse in comparison in Bogota than other comparable European and North American cities of 10 million London being an example unless we compare Bogota to other dangerous South American cities then you are correct.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1972973]This.
If you think Colombia is safe you're not prepared.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your endorsement. The reason I have posted what I posted is that there are many articles on internet likely written by some tourists organizations or travel agencies depicting Colombia as now a safe place claiming that at one time it was unsafe but now it is much better even though they caution about showing off money or jewelry or expensive phones but still giving the impression that it is safe like major cities in Europe and North America. So people read these misleading articles and when they travel they feel they are as safe as home and start walking around after dark and alone and unprepared and hence fall victims. My posts are to counter those false assurances. Likely the German friend was a victim of those articles depicting Colombia now as relatively safe compare to past. Otherwise he must have been completely out of his mind otherwise to walk in red Light district in a country like Colombia at 1:15 am!
So, I am considering a visit to Bogota. Would it be a safe bet to merely take a cab to your destination in Santa Fe, and take a cab from your casa / club whatever? I'm thinking the management of most establishments can call you a cab.
Note, that I have visited Medellin without any problems, but I understand its a different ball game in Bogota. I like to try different places with every trip I take and understand Bogota has a much wider variety of mongering options than Medellin, which is saying a lot. Heck, the exchange rate is awfully good right now.
[QUOTE=Sixty9;1968697]The general information from Routard is excellent. Next year I will be in Bogota for 3 weeks. If the B3 Virrey hotel is girlfriendly, it could be a good option for me.
Is there a Cialis generica available in Colombia and in case what is the name of the drug?[/QUOTE]I stayed in B3 2 weeks ago, great little hotel. Roman behind bar daytime was telling me best places for girls. I had no problem bringing girls back in daytime. Nights are different you might have to pay.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1973006]Thank you for your endorsement. The reason I have posted what I posted is that there are many articles on internet likely written by some tourists organizations or travel agencies depicting Colombia as now a safe place claiming that at one time it was unsafe but now it is much better even though they caution about showing off money or jewelry or expensive phones but still giving the impression that it is safe like major cities in Europe and North America. So people read these misleading articles and when they travel they feel they are as safe as home and start walking around after dark and alone and unprepared and hence fall victims. My posts are to counter those false assurances. Likely the German friend was a victim of those articles depicting Colombia now as relatively safe compare to past. Otherwise he must have been completely out of his mind otherwise to walk in red Light district in a country like Colombia at 1:15 am![/QUOTE]You're like a broken record, repeating the same thing over and over.
Walk around Most anywhere in Manhattan at 1 am no problem, although I'd avoid the park. Walk around Queens, Brooklyn, or Harlem at 1 am and you're probably getting robbed. Walk around the Bronx and your funeral will be shortly after someone discovers your body.
Any major city has places you shouldn't go wandering around at night. Each city also has places that are fine at night, as long as you're not stupid. In Bogota (if you're not stupid) Parque 93 and Zona Rosa are fine day or night. However, if you start wandering around the dark back streets, you may find trouble.
RTFF. Everyone says "don't walk around Santa Fe at night. " "Taxi in, taxi out. " "Stick to the main, busy streets. " "Don't walk around alone. ".
Bogota is dangerous if you're stupid. Just like every major city. If you pay attention to the forum, if you don't do stupid things, you can successfully navigate Bogota with no problems.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1973007]So, I am considering a visit to Bogota. Would it be a safe bet to merely take a cab to your destination in Santa Fe, and take a cab from your casa / club whatever? I'm thinking the management of most establishments can call you a cab.
Note, that I have visited Medellin without any problems, but I understand its a different ball game in Bogota. I like to try different places with every trip I take and understand Bogota has a much wider variety of mongering options than Medellin, which is saying a lot. Heck, the exchange rate is awfully good right now.[/QUOTE]I've never had any major issues with a taxi in Bogota, however it's best to be smart as many have had issues. Yes, most decent establishments will call you a taxi, give you the license plate number and a code you give to them. Hailing a cab. Particularly in some of the shadier areas can be a problem that is best to just avoid. Uber is also a good bet or download the app Tapsi which also gives you some additional security.
[QUOTE=TrueScotsMan;1973181]I stayed in B3 2 weeks ago, great little hotel. Roman behind bar daytime was telling me best places for girls. I had no problem bringing girls back in daytime. Nights are different you might have to pay.[/QUOTE]Thanks for ihe info. I think mostly I will bring girls at night para toda la noche (TLN).
Do you know how much you have to pay in B3 for a girl for a night?
[QUOTE=ElCock;1972750]Hi,
I will arrive in BOG today.
How to contact you to talk about going somewhere?
Regards.[/QUOTE]I got in on Sat but haven't had a chance to go out. Would be awesome if we have a group to head out together!
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This guy clearly have never been to nice cities (E. G. , Singapore, Tokyo, Seoul, Havana-Cuba) . I've be careful to take his advice 'it's all good as long as you're not stupid'.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1973247]You're like a broken record, repeating the same thing over and over.
Walk around Most anywhere in Manhattan at 1 am no problem, although I'd avoid the park. Walk around Queens, Brooklyn, or Harlem at 1 am and you're probably getting robbed. Walk around the Bronx and your funeral will be shortly after someone discovers your body.
Any major city has places you shouldn't go wandering around at night. Each city also has places that are fine at night, as long as you're not stupid. In Bogota (if you're not stupid) Parque 93 and Zona Rosa are fine day or night. However, if you start wandering around the dark back streets, you may find trouble.
RTFF. Everyone says "don't walk around Santa Fe at night. " "Taxi in, taxi out. " "Stick to the main, busy streets. " "Don't walk around alone. ".
Bogota is dangerous if you're stupid. Just like every major city. If you pay attention to the forum, if you don't do stupid things, you can successfully navigate Bogota with no problems.[/QUOTE]
Hi guys,
Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.
[QUOTE=BaldeRojo;1973251]I've never had any major issues with a taxi in Bogota, however it's best to be smart as many have had issues. Yes, most decent establishments will call you a taxi, give you the license plate number and a code you give to them. Hailing a cab. Particularly in some of the shadier areas can be a problem that is best to just avoid. Uber is also a good bet or download the app Tapsi which also gives you some additional security.[/QUOTE]The code, regrettably, is not all it's cracked up to be. Its fixed -- the last 2 digits of the callers phone number. They did change it recently to a random number but I notice it's reverted so that was clearly too complicated for the good burghers of Bogotá. I think the code is designed to protect the taxi driver, and give the company some idea if the driver had actually picked up the right fare: it does sfa to protect the punter.
[QUOTE=Simba05;1973729]Hi guys,
Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.[/QUOTE]That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).
What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.
Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1974001]That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).
What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.
Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.[/QUOTE]If you are on the other side of the Pacific, you hardly deserve any pity. You have my envy.
[QUOTE=RedKilt;1974001]That has to be the best gold standard photo ever seen on ISG (for me anyway).
What an extraordinary body. And real and natural too.
Pity I am on the other side of the Pacific Simba.[/QUOTE]Love those country girls!
[QUOTE=Simba05;1973729]Hi guys,
Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.[/QUOTE]Nice High Beams!
[QUOTE=Simba05;1973729]Hi guys,
Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A young law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.[/QUOTE]Very nice, thanks for sharing.
Heading to Bogota next week. Have read the forum a few times and have a couple questions regarding security that I am hoping someone can help with. I will write a detailed report upon return. My question is, would it be safe to take a taxi directly to pussyhouse or la 49 at night, enter the club, and leave directly by taxi? Also, would it be safe to take a taxi at night directly to troyas / fiebre in Santa Fe, enter club, and leave directly by taxi after? Could the bouncers at the clubs be trusted to call me a legit taxi? Will the clubs be busy or dead from Dec. 17th to 22nd as this is close to Christmas (do all the chicas go home for the holidays, etc). Lastly, and I know this is a matter of personal taste, but are the high end club girls really any prettier than the girls at the chapinero day brothels. I have read that some work in both places. I expect to have most of my free time during the day, and it looks like the high end clubs will be closed until 7 pm, so chapinero sounds like the best option. Would I really regret not going to the high places for a night or two? I have been to SXM multiple times (mostly spend time at hypnotic and Carolina's) and most of the great girls I met there are from Medellin or Bogota, I never thought to ask if / where they might have worked in Bogota, so I have no idea what to expect in terms of quality from Santa Fe, chapinero, high end clubs. Anyways, any thoughts are appreciated. I will be travelling around the city pretty frequently doing the touristy stuff, but if you are looking for a wing man or going to any of the clubs during the day let me know and I'd be happy to meet up.
[QUOTE=CarolinasFan;1974267]Heading to Bogota next week. Have read the forum a few times and have a couple questions regarding security that I am hoping someone can help with. I will write a detailed report upon return. My question is, would it be safe to take a taxi directly to pussyhouse or la 49 at night, enter the club, and leave directly by taxi? Also, would it be safe to take a taxi at night directly to troyas / fiebre in Santa Fe, enter club, and leave directly by taxi after? Could the bouncers at the clubs be trusted to call me a legit taxi? Will the clubs be busy or dead from Dec. 17th to 22nd as this is close to Christmas (do all the chicas go home for the holidays, etc). Lastly, and I know this is a matter of personal taste, but are the high end club girls really any prettier than the girls at the chapinero day brothels. I have read that some work in both places. I expect to have most of my free time during the day, and it looks like the high end clubs will be closed until 7 pm, so chapinero sounds like the best option. Would I really regret not going to the high places for a night or two? I have been to SXM multiple times (mostly spend time at hypnotic and Carolina's) and most of the great girls I met there are from Medellin or Bogota, I never thought to ask if / where they might have worked in Bogota, so I have no idea what to expect in terms of quality from Santa Fe, chapinero, high end clubs. Anyways, any thoughts are appreciated. I will be travelling around the city pretty frequently doing the touristy stuff, but if you are looking for a wing man or going to any of the clubs during the day let me know and I'd be happy to meet up.[/QUOTE]In answer to your taxi question, all of the above, yes. At least I would feel safe doing that.
As for the other questions, hit up Chapinero first. If you're not satisfied with the looks, go north. If the looks are better than you expect, go south.
So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.
I have checked out short ventures from Medellin, a city which I think I have seen enough of. I also understand Barranquilla is the gateway to Santa Marta. And there are also options from Cartegena. I love coffee as my Hungarian screen name should suggest. I eventually want to visit coffee country just out of curiosity. I really want to see the coffee beans on the tree. But, I understand I will be in a place where P4P is not real obvious. Or no?
Feedback and suggestions please.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1974587]So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.
I have checked out short ventures from Medellin, a city which I think I have seen enough of. I also understand Barranquilla is the gateway to Santa Marta. And there are also options from Cartegena. I love coffee as my Hungarian screen name should suggest. I eventually want to visit coffee country just out of curiosity. I really want to see the coffee beans on the tree. But, I understand I will be in a place where P4P is not real obvious. Or no?
Feedback and suggestions please.[/QUOTE]Loads on options in and around Bogotá. There's an extensive colonial Candelaria in town and when you tire of that, small towns within a short trip: Guatavita, areáquira, Zipaquirá, Villa de Leyva,. Check out [URL]http://thecolombianway.co/en/our-trips/day-trips.html[/URL] for a bunch of other options.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1974587]So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? ...
Feedback and suggestions please.[/QUOTE]Locally in Bogota has many museums- Botero, money coin, Gold, police, military. More- All are Free accept Gold museum is free only on Sundays.
See the Palace of Justice (where Escobar attacked and killed many supreme court judges 1985) at Plaza Bolivar- [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlgvObUciU4[/URL].
Also the presidential Palace is there-.
Many other famous landmarks. Hotel Taquendama where they held Escobar's wife, mom and kids-- as seen in Narcos.
Also Montserrat a church high above Bogota in the mountains. La Calera is an area in the mountains with lots of great restaurants.
Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?
Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?
[QUOTE=Corpo;1976476]Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?
Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?[/QUOTE]I doubt you'll find any semi pros around, except later at night. During the day, except on weekends, it's fairly slow.
If you have the skills, (language, looks, charm and game) you may have some luck working the area at night, or possibly weekend afternoons when there's a band or some other entertainment in the park.
There used to be some who worked the area by Hotel Dann Carlton, on Calle 102, at night. Not sure if that's still a popular spot though.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1974587]So, what other sidetrip or ventures out of the capitol can anyone recommend? Bogota sounds like a superb mongering destination, but it seems to have it limits to touristic value. I'm the kind of guy who likes adventuring to ancient ruins, visiting small colonial towns, etc. I'm not big on beaches or backpacking. But I could definitely have fun on the water, nonetheless. It would all be made the sweeter by the availability of poon for sale. I've always savored the idea of visiting some of the types of places listed above followed by some P4P action. Regretably, many places that have excellent P4P options are often at a lack for other things. Berlin is an exception. Lots of freelancers and old-school bordellos, with a lot to see and do. I spent 9 days there last year, but would have liked to have spent 3 weeks just checking out all things I was interested as well as indulging in all the P4P activity.[/QUOTE]I recommend you visit Tunja, an and in city just 3 hours by bus from Bogot. It has a very beautiful Plaza and many colonial building and churches. From there you can go to Villa de Leyva or, in the opposite direction, take a route through the mountains to the Lago de Tota, the largest lake in Colombia surrounded by many little colonial towns like Mongui and Aquitania. Tunja is also big enough to have some sort of mongering scene, although I don't have first hand infos because when I went there I brought with me a 20 yo university chica from Bogotá, who kept me busy.
Thanks for all the suggestions about sightseeing around Bogota. Obviously, I can tell I did not give the capitol enough credit for attractions within the city itself. But after investigating further, Tunja and Leyva seem real interesting as they seem very off the beaten path.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1976491]
There used to be some who worked the area by Hotel Dann Carlton, on Calle 102, at night. Not sure if that's still a popular spot though.[/QUOTE]Yes, in that area there a stil some. Hard core street pros.
[QUOTE=Corpo;1976476]Has anyone had any experience or luck with semi-pro at any of the restaurants or bars around the Parque 93?
Maybe a certain time of the day or place they may visit before heading out to work?[/QUOTE]How about the El Ritero area. Is there any particular bar / restaurant that semi-pros may hang before going to work or possibly after?
Or if anyone can recommend some other areas not mentioned here.
[QUOTE=Corpo;1976723]How about the El Ritero area. Is there any particular bar / restaurant that semi-pros may hang before going to work or possibly after?
Or if anyone can recommend some other areas not mentioned here.[/QUOTE]If don't think there is any place in Bogota where semi pros hangout, day or night. Pros, that's an easy one. Non-pros, also easy, but semi-pros there just isn't any place where they congregate. You can find them on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram. You can find them on the different dating websites, but finding them in a bar or mall isn't very likely.
Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians!
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1976916]Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians![/QUOTE]Nothing wrong with them. They just happen to be Latin Americans, and Latin Americans typically don't speak good English, even when they move to the US. How many foreign languages do you speak on a conversational level?
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1976916]Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians![/QUOTE]Nothing is wrong with Colombians. They speak Spanish. It's the 4th most popular language in the world, not far behind English. Why would you expect a country of nearly 50 million to learn English just to accommodate you?
All of their neighbors speak Spanish, except Brazil, which uses Portuguese. English is not considered a necessity.
Why don't Canadians speak Spanish? It's a much more common language than French (ranked 14th), it's a reasonably simple language with (mostly) consistent conjugation and many cognates, and outside the US and UK, many common Canadian vacation destinations are in Spanish speaking countries.
Why don't more Americans speak Spanish? We share a border with the biggest Spanish speaking population in the world.
Instead of complaining that Colombians don't speak much English (something you've been told more than once) why don't you learn some Spanish?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1976977]Nothing is wrong with Colombians. They speak Spanish. It's the 4th most popular language in the world, not far behind English. Why would you expect a country of nearly 50 million to learn English just to accommodate you?
All of their neighbors speak Spanish, except Brazil, which uses Portuguese. English is not considered a necessity.
Why don't Canadians speak Spanish? It's a much more common language than French (ranked 14th), it's a reasonably simple language with (mostly) consistent conjugation and many cognates, and outside the US and UK, many common Canadian vacation destinations are in Spanish speaking countries.
Why don't more Americans speak Spanish? We share a border with the biggest Spanish speaking population in the world.
Instead of complaining that Colombians don't speak much English (something you've been told more than once) why don't you learn some Spanish?[/QUOTE]My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1977074]My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?[/QUOTE]Are you serious? They don't teach English in public school in many Latin American countries so don't expect it. Also, why is it that YOU don't learn a second language, but they have to?
If it was your first time in Colombia why did you go for two weeks? Next time pick up a phrase book and learn from it. Even a little Spanish goes a long way. When you put no effort they won't either.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1977074]My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?[/QUOTE]What second language do my fellow Americans speak? You must have not been many places if you believe what you wrote. So you think for a 2 week trip to your country someone from Colombia should have to learn English or should everybody have learned Spanish as one of their 2 languages before the person arrives?
There are Colombians who speak English, in the reception at my hotel, in the Airport and Colombians which I met in the clubs in the Zona Rosa.
And no, not every country speaks a second language. The US, UK, Australia to start with.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;1977141]Are you serious? They don't teach English in public school in many Latin American countries so don't expect it. Also, why is it that YOU don't learn a second language, but they have to?
If it was your first time in Colombia why did you go for two weeks? Next time pick up a phrase book and learn from it. Even a little Spanish goes a long way. When you put no effort they won't either.[/QUOTE]Actually I speak three languages (Spanish is not one of them unfortunately) and English is indeed my second language. Please find the facts before making a judgment.
I could get away from work only 2 weeks.
No in all countries that I have visited at least some of population speaks a second language (English being the second) even third world and they actually start teaching as second language in High School (I started in primary school when I was 6 years old). So it was a surprise to see that even educated people in Colombia don't speak a second language.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1977074]My point was that every country speaks a second language except Colombia. Canadians have a second language too and most speak French as second language (In English Canada) or English as second language (in French Canada). So for a two weeks trip to Colombia I learn Spanish huh?[/QUOTE]You need to get out more. Of the Canadians I deal with every week, in Ontario, not one speaks French. Most only speak English, unless they emigrated from another country. Of the Americans I've spent my whole life around, very few speak any language other than English. Once again, most exceptions are immigrants. Of the Mexicans I used to deal with, those who lived and worked closely to the US border, generally spoke some English, while those outside the border region spoke none.
And I thought it was only Americans who expect everyone else to learn English.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1977249]You need to get out more. Of the Canadians I deal with every week, in Ontario, not one speaks French. Most only speak English, unless they emigrated from another country. Of the Americans I've spent my whole life around, very few speak any language other than English. Once again, most exceptions are immigrants. Of the Mexicans I used to deal with, those who lived and worked closely to the US border, generally spoke some English, while those outside the border region spoke none.
And I thought it was only Americans who expect everyone else to learn English.[/QUOTE]Not sure how factual this is. If you mean fluent French in Ontario you are right but almost everybody speaks broken French in Ontario as French is the second language they teach at high school in Canada, unless they are high school drop outs then at least they know a bit if French all over. In Montreal everyone speaks both languages. I don't know about Americans so I can't debate about that.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1976916]Everyone knows that Colombians speak Spanish but in all countries there is also a second language where people start learning starting with junior high school and up. English is the most common second language in the world followed by a distant second French. Now to my surprise in Colombia a relatively progressive country it appears nobody speak English! Or any other second language even those college and university graduates! I have been to Greece (everybody speaks English very well) and in Western Europe and even Eastern Europe and everyone is able to speak at least broken English even in middle east a high percentage speak English so what on earth is wrong with Colombians![/QUOTE]Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1977323]Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.[/QUOTE]Thanks but it would be too late to learn now as I will arrive in Bogota in 3 weeks. I must have super mind to learn a fourth language in just 3 weeks. I am using Google translation to learn some very needy Spanish like expressions to ladies (te gustaría bailar, eres muy bonita, eres lindo, hermosa, te amo.) but I don't even know how to order food for one (for home delivery as I won't venture out after dark). I hope I come back in one piece and without starvation.
I am also trying to find a home country (so that it is not so damn cold) for retirement in 10 years. Greece was not where I like to live nor UK but France maybe but Paris is very expensive. With my retirement income I can live like a king in Bogota (though just middle class in Canada) so it is an ideal place. So now you guys know my purpose for the trip. Not sex or escorts (as you have been asking me why I am here if I don't want to have sex).
I also like to thank all you guys for help and advice you have given me. JjBee and others thank you so much (macho gracias).
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1977323]Anyone who visits Latin AMerica, could have told you this- Same in all of South America and Mexico- Learn Spanish- I recommend Pimsleur conversational Spanish for English speakers.[/QUOTE]He was already told this week's ago, but taking advice isn't high on his priority list. It only takes a few hours to pick up numbers, greetings, basic questions and a few useful phrases. Combined with a translation app, it's enough for most.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1977283]Not sure how factual this is. If you mean fluent French in Ontario you are right but almost everybody speaks broken French in Ontario as French is the second language they teach at high school in Canada, unless they are high school drop outs then at least they know a bit if French all over. In Montreal everyone speaks both languages. I don't know about Americans so I can't debate about that.[/QUOTE]In Montreal everyone doesn't speak both languages. I've had several phone conversations, arranging international shipments, where the resident English speaker had to be tracked down. And there are certainly people who've moved to Montreal without ever learning French. As for Ontario, taking a class in high school, doesn't automatically equal speaking the language.
Looking for some new friends to meet up, with. Ill be in Medellin, and Bogotá next month.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1977341]In Montreal everyone doesn't speak both languages. I've had several phone conversations, arranging international shipments, where the resident English speaker had to be tracked down. And there are certainly people who've moved to Montreal without ever learning French. As for Ontario, taking a class in high school, doesn't automatically equal speaking the language.[/QUOTE]No Canadians that I've ever met, who came from any province west of Ontario can speak French. They all confess to learning some in school. But, they all admit they forgot it rather quickly and have no use for it nor any use for French-speaking Canadians. These are serious Anglophones, I tell you, and I am not about to argue with them.
Anyone been to Lido recently? Any opinions or comparisons to Bar Zhivago?
Just got back from my first trip to Bogota. Spent 6 days there, and it was a pleasant trip with better than expectation on the mongering side. This was my third trip to Colombia this year. The previous 2 trips were to Medellin. I will do a comparison between the 2 cities according to my own experience later when I sum up the report.
I spent all 6 days around Parque 93 area. I got enough business to keep me busy here, and the traffic in Bogota just made it difficult to venture out, especially with all constructions aiming to improving the traffic going on in the area. It could have been better if I had figured out how to use the public transportation system, but I didn't spend the efforts to study that, and was not sure if that was what I wanted to take on my first trip.
For accommodation, I spent the first 2 nights at an apartment, but later move to a hotel for the rest of my stay. Although area around Parque 93 is arguably the best area in Bogota, It is still not comparable to the US standard in many aspects. Construction noise is unbearable during the day, and apartment buildings are close to one another, so the window blinds of my apartment remained closed at all time. I don't know if most of the buildings in Bogota have heating unit. Mine didn't, so it was quite cold this time of the year. I moved to Hotel Exe Bacata right next to Club Lido (not my intention) and glad that I made the move. I reserved for 2 persons, so didn't have problem or get charged for visiting chica. Paid around $80/ night for an upgraded room including breakfast for 2. There are many good hotels around at very reasonable price. Next time, I would probably stay around Calle 85 area. It seemed like there are a lot more restaurants, shopping malls and other activities. In Bogota, every building has security guards at the entrance, and mostly visitors have to register with them. So staying at an apartment doesn't really provide convenience for bringing back chicas.
On the mongering side, it wasn't the main purpose of my trip, so I only have limited experiences to report in a city so immense and full of all kind of opportunities. I only went to 4 clubs, bars and one massage parlor. The first night I went to Juan Pablo Zhivago. Small establishments with about 12 chicas the night I went. Very relax atmosphere, and no pressure of any kind to buy drinks for yourself or the chicas, but drinks are certainly expensive. I paid around 240 K for 3 Coronas for myself and 2 coronas for 2 chicas. Around 150 K if you want to use the onsite facility with the girl, and girls ask around 300-350 k for 1-2 hours. I didn't use their room there, but they gave me the impression that they are not clock watching. I went there late, so I hung around till the closing hour of 5 AM. Girls are all willing to go out with you after their shift there, and the club doesn't care. I picked a 21 year old spinner for 120 USD to go back to my apartment. We didn't discuss the time, but she just stayed until 10 AM in the morning. Outstanding GFE with the spinner, it was so good that we hooked up again 2 days later.
The second night I went to Lido. Before arriving here I went to another one close by, Punto, but it was very quiet with about 20 girls on duty. I was the one customer at 10:30 PM. All are very eager to please, but the average quality was not great. There were 2-3 cute ones, but the remaining was somewhat unimpressive. I left after my first Corona. Lido was a totally different story. While walking from Punto towards Lido, a solicitor came up and voluntarily wanting to show me the club even I told him I already knew the club. Since he can get some commission from the club without costing me anything, I let him walk me to the club. Lido is a much bigger clubs with many more girls. I estimated there were about 50-60 girls the night I went. I was told this is one of the best clubs in North of Bogota. Corona is 45 K and I didn't have to buy any drinks for the girls even some of them sticked around for an extended period of time. I just gave them propinas. I would describe this club an indoor version of Caf Habano in Panama City if you have been there, except Caf Habano, girls are mostly Paisas, and here you have them from every part of Colombia. There are many beautiful girls from young inexperience to more mature pro. After Lido, I don't see any reason to go back to Caf Habano. Chicas are a lot more relax working in their own turf unlike in Panama, they are facing a lot more pressure financially, therefore, not being able to provide as good service. Here I met a black girl that later hooked up with the next day. Natalie, a Calena with a pair of long legs and an ass to die for. She stayed with me for 2. 5 hours, 2 shots as agreed for 260 K. Just a little lame comparing to other great encounters I had in Bogota, but still quite engaging. Just being able to caress that incredible naked body is worth the cost.
I also went to Lancaster in the area during my stay. Another small interesting establishment with Asian style Karaoke rooms. I was explained that you can pick any girls and go sing or do anything you like in the private Karaoke room for 135 K to the house, and negotiate with the girls about what you desire. I was told it is more economical than the previous 2 bars I reported. My Corona cost me 38 K. I was exhausted from my day time activities, do again didn't take any girl on premise or back to the hotel. But out of the 15 girls there, 4-5 are quite beautiful.
In these clubs or bars, I think the prices are higher than other establishments in Bogota, but I would think the average quality of girls also reflects that. I think most of the customers just go there to drink and have a good time at the same time get the feeling of the girls. If they feel good about the girls, they get the contact info, and see each other outside for a lower cost, and to avoid the takeout fee. For the few hours I was there in each clubs, I must have collected 8-9 #'s for possible later encounters outside.
On my last day, I went to a massage parlor in Zone Rosa I think, Colorin. 120 K for 30 min. And 160 K for the hour. Place is OK, not too clean, but not dirty at all. They have suicide shower at the premises, but the water is not warm at all. Girls are at 6-7 range with a couple 7. 5. I got myself a light skin 7. 5 who provide fantastic GFE that I ended up extending another hour with her.
I had some uncertainty and doubts before coming to BOG. The trip turned out better than I expected. It is a big city with tons of opportunities one can explore with ease and convenience. I was planning hook up with Woodman and visit Santa Fe area, but staying in the North side made it very difficult to come down South especially after full schedule of day time activities. Have to apologize to Woodman here.
After the trip, I think I like Bogota better than Medellin for our hobby. Medellin is cheaper in every way. The city is smaller and prettier. The weather is more comfortable. But in my limited experience, GFE is more attainable in BOG than in Medellin. Almost every girl I talked to in the clubs I visited got better attitude than their counterparts in Medellin. And with the immense establishments one can explore, you are less likely to get bored in BOG. BOG is also more accessible wherever you will fly in from. The only drawback is the traffic. I didn't hit any day time casas on this trip, so I can't provide any experience on that and of course, this is only my personal limited experience.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;1977657]Just got back from my first trip to Bogota. Spent 6 days there, and it was a pleasant trip with better than expectation on the mongering side. This was my third trip to Colombia this year. The previous 2 trips were to Medellin. I will do a comparison between the 2 cities according to my own experience later when I sum up the report.
I spent all 6 days around Parque 93 area. I got enough business to keep me busy here, and the traffic in Bogota just made it difficult to venture out, especially with all constructions aiming to improving the traffic going on in the area. It could have been better if I had figured out how to use the public transportation system, but I didn't spend the efforts to study that, and was not sure if that was what I wanted to take on my first trip.
For accommodation, I spent the first 2 nights at an apartment, but later move to a hotel for the rest of my stay. Although area around Parque 93 is arguably the best area in Bogota, It is still not comparable to the US standard in many aspects. Construction noise is unbearable during the day, and apartment buildings are close to one another, so the window blinds of my apartment remained closed at all time. I don't know if most of the buildings in Bogota have heating unit. Mine didn't, so it was quite cold this time of the year. I moved to Hotel Exe Bacata right next to Club Lido (not my intention) and glad that I made the move. I reserved for 2 persons, so didn't have problem or get charged for visiting chica. Paid around $80/ night for an upgraded room including breakfast for 2. There are many good hotels around at very reasonable price. Next time, I would probably stay around Calle 85 area. It seemed like there are a lot more restaurants, shopping malls and other activities. In Bogota, every building has security guards at the entrance, and mostly visitors have to register with them. So staying at an apartment doesn't really provide convenience for bringing back chicas.
On the mongering side, it wasn't the main purpose of my trip, so I only have limited experiences to report in a city so immense and full of all kind of opportunities. I only went to 4 clubs, bars and one massage parlor. The first night I went to Juan Pablo Zhivago. Small establishments with about 12 chicas the night I went. Very relax atmosphere, and no pressure of any kind to buy drinks for yourself or the chicas, but drinks are certainly expensive. I paid around 240 K for 3 Coronas for myself and 2 coronas for 2 chicas. Around 150 K if you want to use the onsite facility with the girl, and girls ask around 300-350 k for 1-2 hours. I didn't use their room there, but they gave me the impression that they are not clock watching. I went there late, so I hung around till the closing hour of 5 AM. Girls are all willing to go out with you after their shift there, and the club doesn't care. I picked a 21 year old spinner for 120 USD to go back to my apartment. We didn't discuss the time, but she just stayed until 10 AM in the morning. Outstanding GFE with the spinner, it was so good that we hooked up again 2 days later.
The second night I went to Lido. Before arriving here I went to another one close by, Punto, but it was very quiet with about 20 girls on duty. I was the one customer at 10:30 PM. All are very eager to please, but the average quality was not great. There were 2-3 cute ones, but the remaining was somewhat unimpressive. I left after my first Corona. Lido was a totally different story. While walking from Punto towards Lido, a solicitor came up and voluntarily wanting to show me the club even I told him I already knew the club. Since he can get some commission from the club without costing me anything, I let him walk me to the club. Lido is a much bigger clubs with many more girls. I estimated there were about 50-60 girls the night I went. I was told this is one of the best clubs in North of Bogota. Corona is 45 K and I didn't have to buy any drinks for the girls even some of them sticked around for an extended period of time. I just gave them propinas. I would describe this club an indoor version of Caf Habano in Panama City if you have been there, except Caf Habano, girls are mostly Paisas, and here you have them from every part of Colombia. There are many beautiful girls from young inexperience to more mature pro. After Lido, I don't see any reason to go back to Caf Habano. Chicas are a lot more relax working in their own turf unlike in Panama, they are facing a lot more pressure financially, therefore, not being able to provide as good service. Here I met a black girl that later hooked up with the next day. Natalie, a Calena with a pair of long legs and an ass to die for. She stayed with me for 2. 5 hours, 2 shots as agreed for 260 K. Just a little lame comparing to other great encounters I had in Bogota, but still quite engaging. Just being able to caress that incredible naked body is worth the cost.
I also went to Lancaster in the area during my stay. Another small interesting establishment with Asian style Karaoke rooms. I was explained that you can pick any girls and go sing or do anything you like in the private Karaoke room for 135 K to the house, and negotiate with the girls about what you desire. I was told it is more economical than the previous 2 bars I reported. My Corona cost me 38 K. I was exhausted from my day time activities, do again didn't take any girl on premise or back to the hotel. But out of the 15 girls there, 4-5 are quite beautiful.
In these clubs or bars, I think the prices are higher than other establishments in Bogota, but I would think the average quality of girls also reflects that. I think most of the customers just go there to drink and have a good time at the same time get the feeling of the girls. If they feel good about the girls, they get the contact info, and see each other outside for a lower cost, and to avoid the takeout fee. For the few hours I was there in each clubs, I must have collected 8-9 #'s for possible later encounters outside.
On my last day, I went to a massage parlor in Zone Rosa I think, Colorin. 120 K for 30 min. And 160 K for the hour. Place is OK, not too clean, but not dirty at all. They have suicide shower at the premises, but the water is not warm at all. Girls are at 6-7 range with a couple 7. 5. I got myself a light skin 7. 5 who provide fantastic GFE that I ended up extending another hour with her.
I had some uncertainty and doubts before coming to BOG. The trip turned out better than I expected. It is a big city with tons of opportunities one can explore with ease and convenience. I was planning hook up with Woodman and visit Santa Fe area, but staying in the North side made it very difficult to come down South especially after full schedule of day time activities. Have to apologize to Woodman here.
After the trip, I think I like Bogota better than Medellin for our hobby. Medellin is cheaper in every way. The city is smaller and prettier. The weather is more comfortable. But in my limited experience, GFE is more attainable in BOG than in Medellin. Almost every girl I talked to in the clubs I visited got better attitude than their counterparts in Medellin. And with the immense establishments one can explore, you are less likely to get bored in BOG. BOG is also more accessible wherever you will fly in from. The only drawback is the traffic. I didn't hit any day time casas on this trip, so I can't provide any experience on that and of course, this is only my personal limited experience.[/QUOTE]Great report. Maybe I can fill in some of the blanks for your next trip.
Unless it is specified, most hotels have neither heat nor air conditioning. Unless you get a few cool, cloudy, rainy days in a row, heat isn't necessary. Hotels from Zona Rosa north generally run from $50 to $100 per night with breakfast included.
The construction is neverending and can be quite a pain with the noise. Worse, sometimes they'll have a problem requiring work late into the night.
I think there are more of the better (and more expensive) dining options around Parque 93, and more cheaper options and nightclubs in Zona Rosa. Around Calle 85 is a good location, as both areas are just a short walk away.
There are 2 public transportation systems, SITP and Transmilenio. SITP are the blue and green buses that run the major streets and Transmilenio is the big red buses that run dedicated lanes down the main thoroughfares. I've never used SITP, but the Transmilenio is easy. Most places there is a walkway crossing over the highway to reach the Transmilenio station. Go to the booth hand over 2000 pesos (or more) and they will hand a a card. You don't need to worry about the destination, just hand over the money. Use the card at the turnstile, then find the bus routes you want. Most routes run every few minutes. For the 1 fare you can change buses as many times as you want as long as you don't exit a station. Most stations are named for the cross street. There are route maps showing which route stops at each station. There is also an app for your phone.
I find the Transmilenio a cheap and easy way to get a general view of different parts of the city. If you just want to get a quick view of the different areas, hope the next uncrowded bus going the right way. Just keep switching buses until you find an area you want to check out more.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1977336]Thanks but it would be too late to learn now as I will arrive in Bogota in 3 weeks. I must have super mind to learn a fourth language in just 3 weeks. I am using Google translation to learn some very needy Spanish like expressions to ladies (te gustara bailar, eres muy bonita, eres lindo, hermosa, te amo.) but I don't even know how to order food for one (for home delivery as I won't venture out after dark). I hope I come back in one piece and without starvation.
I am also trying to find a home country (so that it is not so damn cold) for retirement in 10 years. Greece was not where I like to live nor UK but France maybe but Paris is very expensive. With my retirement income I can live like a king in Bogota (though just middle class in Canada) so it is an ideal place. So now you guys know my purpose for the trip. Not sex or escorts (as you have been asking me why I am here if I don't want to have sex).
I also like to thank all you guys for help and advice you have given me. JjBee and others thank you so much (macho gracias).[/QUOTE]Good luck. There is so. Much good pussy in Bogota- I am alway finding some new Hottie! Definitely helps that I can romance them a bit.
1 more thing- I forgot to mention Cuba- They actually do have more English speaking there, But you can find a lot of hot country girls that don't- I have been there 10 times and had they are the Sweetest Hotties.
There's a lot of Cuban blonds too! I had a super cute 18 yo GF hooker!
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Think UBER. Period. It is very difficult to spend $6. 00 for a ride. And that would get you across town in terrible traffic.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1977700]Good luck. There is so. Much good pussy in Bogota- I am alway finding some new Hottie! Definitely helps that I can romance them a bit.
1 more thing- I forgot to mention Cuba- They actually do have more English speaking there, But you can find a lot of hot country girls that don't- I have been there 10 times and had they are the Sweetest Hotties.
There's a lot of Cuban blonds too! I had a super cute 18 yo GF hooker!
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=125701&d=1259027594[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks FR info. I am not really that much after kitties but rather friendship. That said I think that unlike Colombia, in Cuba (being a communist country still) a lot of things are illegal. Now they may not be enforced (I am just guessing) but that doesn't change the fact that those activities are illegal (for example to have escorts around with or without sex for companionship only even).
On another note based on my extensive research there are few agencies which are reliable in Bogota (they are sending girls who advertise real pictures). One is Solitasparati, second is La Celestina and third is Eroticas. My question is to anyone on board Do you know if they do have English speaking agents who answers the phones? Calling and asking for details and passing address and setting time really need advanced Spanish one need to spend months or years to learn. I read on the other site that Solitas sometimes (not always) have a helpful young lady answering who speaks English. Not sure about the other two. Any intelligence on those ones?
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1978033]Thanks FR info. I am not really that much after kitties but rather friendship. That said I think that unlike Colombia, in Cuba (being a communist country still) a lot of things are illegal. Now they may not be enforced (I am just guessing) but that doesn't change the fact that those activities are illegal (for example to have escorts around with or without sex for companionship only even).
On another note based on my extensive research there are few agencies which are reliable in Bogota (they are sending girls who advertise real pictures). One is Solitasparati, second is La Celestina and third is Eroticas. My question is to anyone on board Do you know if they do have English speaking agents who answers the phones? Calling and asking for details and passing address and setting time really need advanced Spanish one need to spend months or years to learn. I read on the other site that Solitas sometimes (not always) have a helpful young lady answering who speaks English. Not sure about the other two. Any intelligence on those ones?[/QUOTE]You have close to 40 reports with nothing but questions, why don't you go and find out instead of terrorizing the forum with your questions and bad behavior.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1978033]Thanks FR info. I am not really that much after kitties but rather friendship. That said I think that unlike Colombia, in Cuba (being a communist country still) a lot of things are illegal. Now they may not be enforced (I am just guessing) but that doesn't change the fact that those activities are illegal (for example to have escorts around with or without sex for companionship only even).
On another note based on my extensive research there are few agencies which are reliable in Bogota (they are sending girls who advertise real pictures). One is Solitasparati, second is La Celestina and third is Eroticas. My question is to anyone on board Do you know if they do have English speaking agents who answers the phones? Calling and asking for details and passing address and setting time really need advanced Spanish one need to spend months or years to learn. I read on the other site that Solitas sometimes (not always) have a helpful young lady answering who speaks English. Not sure about the other two. Any intelligence on those ones?[/QUOTE]Some, if not most of the escort agencies have an email or a Whatsapp contact option. It may be easier to deal with them that way. You can use Google translate to make requests in Spanish and translate the responses.
Google translate works best if you stay with simple sentences. You might want to include "Disculpe. No hablo Espańol. " Which is "Excuse me. I don't speak Spanish. ".
For what you're looking for, maybe something like "Quiero una chica solo para bailar sexy. " "I want a girl only to dance sexy. " It's not eloquent, but it should get your point across.
Here are some translation problems you may run into:
Some will spell "quiero" as "kiero. " If you get a word with a "k" in it which won't translate, replace the "k" with "qu. ".
"Que, por que and porque (what or that, why and because)" will often be abbreviated. Q or K for que. Pq, pk, porq or pork for por que and porque.
Example:
"Por k no kieres tener sexo conmigo? Is "por que no quieres tener sexo conmigo?" Which means "why don't you want to have sex with me?" You will probably hear that, considering what you are looking for.
Just stick with simple sentences.
You're going to get overcharged, especially if you find an agency that speaks good English. They know your options are limited, and requesting an English speaking escort will limit your options further. Just accept that before you get on the plane.
If you're visiting looking at retirement options, I don't recommend Bogota. Bogota is the most expensive place to live in Colombia. Medellin is cheaper and has a better climate. It also is subject to a little less civil unrest. Protests in Bogota will occasionally shut everything down. Medellin also has a decent sized ex-pat community, so you'll have an easier time finding English speakers.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1978261]Some, if not most of the escort agencies have an email or a Whatsapp contact option. It may be easier to deal with them that way. You can use Google translate to make requests in Spanish and translate the responses.
Google translate works best if you stay with simple sentences. You might want to include "Disculpe. No hablo Espaol. " Which is "Excuse me. I don't speak Spanish. ".
For what you're looking for, maybe something like "Quiero una chica solo para bailar sexy. " "I want a girl only to dance sexy. " It's not eloquent, but it should get your point across.
Here are some translation problems you may run into:
Some will spell "quiero" as "kiero. " If you get a word with a "k" in it which won't translate, replace the "k" with "qu. "..[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for comprehensive response.
Yes actually this was exactly what I was thinking too. That is Google Translate and then text them at their cell or email them but I wasn't sure how often they open their text to read messages or read their emails as a direct call they will have to respond right away but yes in this regard I have no choice. I will translate, text and hopefully they will only text back because if they call then I will be both dumb and deaf.
There is an agency called Elite which seriously overcharge because they have English speaking providers however for example Solitasparati has indicated $200,000 for most ladies (even same for the few who speak English) and I seriously doubt that they would charge me $400,000 when their standard fee is 200 K just because I don't speak Spanish. That said you may be right about the other agency called La Celestina. The reason I say this is because Gina is advertised as $190,000 on their site (and she is English speaker) and on independent site but same agency ([URL]http://topescortbabes.com/escort/Gina_62778[/URL]) she is asking for 150 USD (which is $450,000. That is more than twice). This is the case with a few others English speaking in that agency as well. I think Solitas has more integrity as they haven't advertised on any other site asking for more.
Prices in Bogota is about half where I am now and I could retire early so Medellin is even cheaper than that! Wow. The heat and humidity makes me sick and that was one reason I chose Bogota over Medellin. My friend suggested Costa Rica and I reject that too because of the heat.
Again thanks so much for all your help. I will be soon investigating the dating sites too you recommended earlier. Colombian women are really beautiful.
[QUOTE=BogotaVisitor;1978305]Thank you very much for comprehensive response.
Yes actually this was exactly what I was thinking too. That is Google Translate and then text them at their cell or email them but I wasn't sure how often they open their text to read messages or read their emails as a direct call they will have to respond right away but yes in this regard I have no choice. I will translate, text and hopefully they will only text back because if they call then I will be both dumb and deaf.
There is an agency called Elite which seriously overcharge because they have English speaking providers however for example Solitasparati has indicated $200,000 for most ladies (even same for the few who speak English) and I seriously doubt that they would charge me $400,000 when their standard fee is 200 K just because I don't speak Spanish. That said you may be right about the other agency called La Celestina. The reason I say this is because Gina is advertised as $190,000 on their site (and she is English speaker) and on independent site but same agency ([URL]http://topescortbabes.com/escort/Gina_62778[/URL]) she is asking for 150 USD (which is $450,000. That is more than twice). This is the case with a few others English speaking in that agency as well. I think Solitas has more integrity as they haven't advertised on any other site asking for more.
Prices in Bogota is about half where I am now and I could retire early so Medellin is even cheaper than that! Wow. The heat and humidity makes me sick and that was one reason I chose Bogota over Medellin. My friend suggested Costa Rica and I reject that too because of the heat.
Again thanks so much for all your help. I will be soon investigating the dating sites too you recommended earlier. Colombian women are really beautiful.[/QUOTE]Medellin average high temperature is 27-28°see, with an average temperature of 22°see. Relative humidity from 65-70% year round. Bogota average high temperature is 19-20°see, with average about 16°see and relative humidity at 75%.
Most people find Bogota a little chilly, especially at night.
Guiding in Santa Fe last couple of nights-- As it gets closer to New Years the chica selection is Not as good as the Fantastic Norm-.
Usually I want to get with 60-80% of the girls I see-- at these holiday times -- it is down to 15-20%.
This includes around X-Max and Easter too.
Quick Tip for Santa Fe.
When catching a cab to Santa Fe- Make sure you tell the driver 'Barrio Santa Fe en centro'- I have had a few clients end up way up North at Santa Fe Mall instead.
My friend down there is enjoying Pussy House in Chapinero, $70 k and very much worth it.
[QUOTE=Chesscat;1980834]My friend down there is enjoying Pussy House in Chapinero, $70 k and very much worth it.[/QUOTE]Prices must have went up with the recent popularity. We were there a year or so ago and it was like 50 k.
But I agree at 50 or 70, very much worth it.
[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1981080]Prices must have went up with the recent popularity. We were there a year or so ago and it was like 50 k.
But I agree at 50 or 70, very much worth it.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's what you Pay at Troya or Paisas too-- Even better- I Like paying 40 Mil or less to a Super Hot Street Streety Sweety!
6000 Colombian people stripped off for photos in Bogota's main square.
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3627040/Thousands-Colombians-pose-naked-Bogota-photographer-Spencer-Tunick-s-latest-installation.html[/URL]
I love Colombia.
Looking for a guide, preferably an expat, but a trusted local would be good too! Its for a friend of mine who is doing his virgin trip to Colombia. Bogotá and (maybe) Cartagena. Feel free to PM me with any contact info!
Thanks in advance.
Rodeo.
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;1982412]Looking for a guide, preferably an expat, but a trusted local would be good too! Its for a friend of mine who is doing his virgin trip to Colombia. Bogot and (maybe) Cartagena. Feel free to PM me with any contact info!
Thanks in advance.
Rodeo.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Now -- your message box is full.
[QUOTE=You69Me;1982271]6000 Colombian people stripped off for photos in Bogota's main square.
[URL]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3627040/Thousands-Colombians-pose-naked-Bogota-photographer-Spencer-Tunick-s-latest-installation.html[/URL]
I love Colombia.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Tunik does that stunt all over the world.
Is there exist good forum (s) in Spanish where local mongers share their experiences? Something similar to GP Guia in Brasil would be great source of information.
[QUOTE=JoseCuervo;1983012]Is there exist good forum (s) in Spanish where local mongers share their experiences? Something similar to GP Guia in Brasil would be great source of information.[/QUOTE]I would not say its good but you can get some info from it.
[URL]http://www.foroprepagoscolombia.com/[/URL]
GF.
How real are the girls from La Celestina escort on their website? Does anyone have another recommendation or suggestion.
This company seems to be the most advertised. Also was thinking about meeting them at one of the Parque 93 bars instead of the hotel.
This way if not what I expected can easily turn away. Has anyone tried this?
[QUOTE=Corpo;1984570]How real are the girls from La Celestina escort on their website? Does anyone have another recommendation or suggestion.
This company seems to be the most advertised. Also was thinking about meeting them at one of the Parque 93 bars instead of the hotel.
This way if not what I expected can easily turn away. Has anyone tried this?[/QUOTE]From looking at their website, I expect they are fairly accurate. They have videos and pictures for each one, and the photos and videos all appear to be taken at the same location. While it's easy to enhance photos, I doubt any escort agency is going to spend the time and effort to enhance a short video.
The places I would worry about are the ones where the pictures aren't consistent. Or when a Google Image search shows several other hits.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1984645]From looking at their website, I expect they are fairly accurate. They have videos and pictures for each one, and the photos and videos all appear to be taken at the same location. While it's easy to enhance photos, I doubt any escort agency is going to spend the time and effort to enhance a short video.
The places I would worry about are the ones where the pictures aren't consistent. Or when a Google Image search shows several other hits.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. What's your opinion of meeting first at Parque 93 instead of hotel?
[QUOTE=Corpo;1984698]Thanks for the info. What's your opinion of meeting first at Parque 93 instead of hotel?[/QUOTE]My opinion is that it is easier to meet someone where there are not an abundance of people. At the hotel for instance.
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1982781]Hey,
Now -- your message box is full.[/QUOTE]Problem solved! Please free to PM me now.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=MrEnternational;1984712]My opinion is that it is easier to meet someone where there are not an abundance of people. At the hotel for instance.[/QUOTE]What he said.
With a possible exception. Sort of. If you're paying for multiple hours and need some time to get over the jitters, you might meet in the hotel and then go to Parque 93. For burgers and beers, try La Hamburgesa. Crepes why Waffles is also a good choice, or there's a Juan Valdez or Bogota Beer Company. Plenty of sit, eat and drink options.
The reason why you meet at the hotel is because she has a way to directly locate you. In Parque 93 you're just a guy trying to figure out if the girl you're seeing is the same as in the ad. Meanwhile, she's trying to figure out which guy checking her out is the customer.
Besides, you'll probably have a tough time convincing the agency to send a girl to the park. They send to homes, apartments or hotels, not to some general area.
I received a tweet from Viviana:'first reverse gang bang: you against 10 girls, sexual marathon'. It's at Piscina Normandia Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] It's a regular swimming pool on week-end but a swinger club from Monday till Friday, from 3 pm till 10 pm. Not sure the mothers would let their children play the water if they knew what is happening here during the week! Normal price is 60 000 for couples and 90 000 for single men on Mondays and Tuesdays.
I arrive at opening at 3 pm, the bar and reception is at the second floor. I kiss Viviana, she explains me the concept, receives the 99 000 and gives me the key my locker, sandals and a towel. I bump into a guy I met before in Europeo, it's his first time also in Normandia. We visit the venue together. A large swimming pool under a transparent roof, a Jacuzzi, hammam, sauna, massage room and disco area on the main floor. Bar, locker room and public room on the second floor. It's not the perfect clean German FKK facilities, but it comes close.
The welcoming team is waiting for us: 7 girls in bikini ready to give a 14 hands massage! All guests start with this soap massage. I lay down on the massage table and the 14 giggling girls start to rub my back. Amazing experience, 14 hands that touch my everywhere while I grab the assess and tits that are close. When I turn myself on my back, I discover 7 smiling faces watching at me. They are curious of my origin, but I don't even need to answer as one of the girls knows me from the swinger world and reveals my nationality. A few start to joke that they have never done that nationality and that they really loved to. I feel hands touching my dick, but have no idea from which of the faces they belong to. One girl start to give me a blowjob, another one starts to kiss me, a third one is rubbing my chest, two other my legs. I have one hand in a pussy that is getting wet while another hand is caressing a tit. 'Que dura la vida! I'm struggling not to come as I want to keep it for the rest of the event. They have fun seeing me struggling, go on with their torture and finally release me.
They start with another guy; I come to rest and can watch better the scene as when I was in the middle of the action. Girls are the typical next door girls, at least if you live in Colombia, between 20 and 30 years old. They don't look like regular prostitutes, no high heels but sandals, no make up or fake boobs, but natural bodies, wet hair from the swimming pool. I recognize a couple of them from the swing world. All seem to enjoy it as it is a unique event. For sure, it's not the seedy partytreff atmosphere with exploited Romanians. More girls arrive later, there are roughly some 10 single guys and even e few swing couple, an excellent ratio.
When all guests received their massage, all girls end up in the swimming pool. Most guys stay outside of the pool, we are only 2 guys to entertain 10 crazy girls. It's the typical ' Narco' atmosphere, party in a swimming pool with beautiful Colombianas in bikini. I have one girl in my arms, while kissing another. My hands can grasp as much pussies, tits and asses as I want. Soon everybody is naked in the swimming pool. It's paradise!
I notice a pretty petite Colombiana, I end up alone with her in my arms. I'm in her back, caressing her small frim boobs and her tight pussy. She dives under waterand starts to give me a submarine blowjob. When she is without air, she surfaces again to kiss me. My dick is hard and gets between her legs. I invite her to go out of the pool and lay more comfortable on one of the beach matrass. Normandia is one of the few swing clubs in Colombia that have free condom dispensers everywhere.
Trouble is, as soon as I believed to be alone with her, Viviana starts the next event of the evening, the famous inverse gang bang. She sends all the other girls to join us. Hey! I didn't expect that! As a sudden I have 5 girls surrounding me. They take control of the situation and order me to lay down. They are then taking turn to give me a blow job while I am caressing the closest pussies. Then the first one puts me a condom and takes me on cowboy. The others get crazy, claiming their turn. The second girl changes the condom and starts to fuck me. Amazing! It's the very first time I hear about that, being gang banged by half a dozen girls! Even in my craziest dreams it didn't happen! It's not a trio, it's a sexto! Making love with five girls at a time, that's simply unique!
When all 5 girls got their turn, they free me and I'm suddenly alone with a hard dick! I check around for a pussy to fuck and here is my luck. Another girl just arrived in the club and entered in the swimming pool. She is amazing, the most beautiful by far. She has a very white skin and a perfect body, probably very young to be so firm. I enter the pool; start to talk to her while caressing her under water. I'm way too horny to wait longer. I offer her to go out of the water. I sit on the edge of the pool, she stays in the water and starts to give me a blow job. My friend from the swing club joins us and starts to take her from behind while she gives me the blowjob. Behind my back, the next inverse gang bang is going on, I start to finger a pussy that got too close of me. I won't hold it much longer. I put a condom, enter in the water and start to take the girl from behind while my friend takes my place to get a blow job. I feel great in her pussy, and fuck her hard while bouncing on her voluptuous ass and grabbing with both hands her firm tits. In front of me I have a great view of the other girls that are banging a guy. I can' stand it longer anymore and explode my orgasm in her pussy.
I go to rest upstairs having a drink at the bar, and then enter the Jacuzzi. Soon my friend enter in Jacuzzi too as well as one of the girls we know both from the swing world. We chat about our previous experiences in swing club and how great the inverse gang bang event is. Viviana joins also and we congratulate her for the idea and the success. She promises to do it again at least every 3 months and will inform us through tweeter. Viviana is a legend in the Bogota's swing world, amazing the network of contact she has and the ability to find 10 single girls for such an event.
I comment to Viviana that this event is most probably unique in the world. The closest would be German Partytreff, but in German Partytreff girls are exploited Romanian prostitutes, while here the girls are genuine swing girls that do it because they want to, not because they need to. Also, in German Partry treff you can fuck as much as you want with as many girls you want, but you will never have them all together at the same time.
While discussing, other girls join us in the Jacuzzi. If above water it seems an informal conversation, under water is madness. I'm fingering one pussy left, another pussy right and have no clue who is giving me a hand job. I guess it's the girl in front of me as she smiles at me. I change position and come and sit next her. We start to kiss while we touch each other sexes. We decide to isolate us on one of the beds upstairs. We lay down, arm in arm, our legs twisted together and start to kiss passionately. After amazing multiple PSE sex, this time great intimate GFE. I feel how wet she is, I could slip into as my dick is stipulating her clitoris. I beg for a condom, she puts it imperceptibly while performing a blow job. I take her on missionary on a very slow rhythm while kissing her and maximizing contact between both bodies.
As I had already my orgasm, I can hold this rhythm enough till she gets her orgasm first. I then explode with my own orgasm. A guy approaches us, and starts to caress her. It doesn't care that much anymore as I have finished. I'm not sure however that she will agrees also, but soon I realize that both already know each other. We have conversation all three together, while I suddenly realize they are a couple. We chat a while, and after some time I decide to say good bye and leave the venue with my mind full of unforgettable memories.
I know most punters are reluctant to the swinger world. But it's not about bringing your wife so that other dudes can fuck them. Also, sex is guaranteed for single men. Of course it's not for the shy. You need to have no problem with staying naked and sharing space with other naked people, no problem with public sex, no problem with group sex and no problem having conversation with a guy while fucking his wife! But for me it's the greatest place of Bogota, if not in the world. I just cannot imagine another place where 7 girls would gang me for just 30 $! Remember also that the girls fuck because they want to, not because they need to, don't treat them as if they are hookers. The report is from the first reverse gang bang Viviana organized more than a year ago. She does it on a regualr basis every 3 months, starts to advertise 2 weeks in advance on twitter or on her internet site. Most of the time it's in Normandia, but once she did it also in Monasterio. If you can't plan your trip to Bogota for that event, anyway there are still every Tuesday the regular event in Normandia. Not a reverse gang bang, but just a few single girls available for the single men and some couples.
Routard, thanks for another great informative report on interesting option less reported or discussed. Combining your previous reports with World Traveloer's map is the best BOG guide one can have.
[QUOTE=Routard;1984892]I received a tweet from Viviana:'first reverse gang bang: you against 10 girls, sexual marathon'. It's at Piscina Normandia Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] It's a regular swimming pool on week-end but a swinger club from Monday till Friday, from 3 pm till 10 pm. Not sure the mothers would let their children play the water if they knew what is happening here during the week! Normal price is 60 000 for couples and 90 000 for single men on Mondays and Tuesdays.
I arrive at opening at 3 pm, the bar and reception is at the second floor. I kiss Viviana, she explains me the concept, receives the 99 000 and gives me the key my locker, sandals and a towel. I bump into a guy I met before in Europeo, it's his first time also in Normandia. We visit the venue together. A large swimming pool under a transparent roof, a Jacuzzi, hammam, sauna, massage room and disco area on the main floor. Bar, locker room and public room on the second floor. It's not the perfect clean German FKK facilities, but it comes close.
The welcoming team is waiting for us: 7 girls in bikini ready to give a 14 hands massage! All guests start with this soap massage. I lay down on the massage table and the 14 giggling girls start to rub my back. Amazing experience, 14 hands that touch my everywhere while I grab the assess and tits that are close. When I turn myself on my back, I discover 7 smiling faces watching at me. They are curious of my origin, but I don't even need to answer as one of the girls knows me from the swinger world and reveals my nationality. A few start to joke that they have never done that nationality and that they really loved to. I feel hands touching my dick, but have no idea from which of the faces they belong to. One girl start to give me a blowjob, another one starts to kiss me, a third one is rubbing my chest, two other my legs. I have one hand in a pussy that is getting wet while another hand is caressing a tit. 'Que dura la vida! I'm struggling not to come as I want to keep it for the rest of the event. They have fun seeing me struggling, go on with their torture and finally release me.
They start with another guy; I come to rest and can watch better the scene as when I was in the middle of the action. Girls are the typical next door girls, at least if you live in Colombia, between 20 and 30 years old. They don't look like regular prostitutes, no high heels but sandals, no make up or fake boobs, but natural bodies, wet hair from the swimming pool. I recognize a couple of them from the swing world. All seem to enjoy it as it is a unique event. For sure, it's not the seedy partytreff atmosphere with exploited Romanians. More girls arrive later, there are roughly some 10 single guys and even e few swing couple, an excellent ratio.
When all guests received their massage, all girls end up in the swimming pool. Most guys stay outside of the pool, we are only 2 guys to entertain 10 crazy girls. It's the typical ' Narco' atmosphere, party in a swimming pool with beautiful Colombianas in bikini. I have one girl in my arms, while kissing another. My hands can grasp as much pussies, tits and asses as I want. Soon everybody is naked in the swimming pool. It's paradise!
I notice a pretty petite Colombiana, I end up alone with her in my arms. I'm in her back, caressing her small frim boobs and her tight pussy. She dives under waterand starts to give me a submarine blowjob. When she is without air, she surfaces again to kiss me. My dick is hard and gets between her legs. I invite her to go out of the pool and lay more comfortable on one of the beach matrass. Normandia is one of the few swing clubs in Colombia that have free condom dispensers everywhere.
Trouble is, as soon as I believed to be alone with her, Viviana starts the next event of the evening, the famous inverse gang bang. She sends all the other girls to join us. Hey! I didn't expect that! As a sudden I have 5 girls surrounding me. They take control of the situation and order me to lay down. They are then taking turn to give me a blow job while I am caressing the closest pussies. Then the first one puts me a condom and takes me on cowboy. The others get crazy, claiming their turn. The second girl changes the condom and starts to fuck me. Amazing! It's the very first time I hear about that, being gang banged by half a dozen girls! Even in my craziest dreams it didn't happen! It's not a trio, it's a sexto! Making love with five girls at a time, that's simply unique!
When all 5 girls got their turn, they free me and I'm suddenly alone with a hard dick! I check around for a pussy to fuck and here is my luck. Another girl just arrived in the club and entered in the swimming pool. She is amazing, the most beautiful by far. She has a very white skin and a perfect body, probably very young to be so firm. I enter the pool; start to talk to her while caressing her under water. I'm way too horny to wait longer. I offer her to go out of the water. I sit on the edge of the pool, she stays in the water and starts to give me a blow job. My friend from the swing club joins us and starts to take her from behind while she gives me the blowjob. Behind my back, the next inverse gang bang is going on, I start to finger a pussy that got too close of me. I won't hold it much longer. I put a condom, enter in the water and start to take the girl from behind while my friend takes my place to get a blow job. I feel great in her pussy, and fuck her hard while bouncing on her voluptuous ass and grabbing with both hands her firm tits. In front of me I have a great view of the other girls that are banging a guy. I can' stand it longer anymore and explode my orgasm in her pussy.
I go to rest upstairs having a drink at the bar, and then enter the Jacuzzi. Soon my friend enter in Jacuzzi too as well as one of the girls we know both from the swing world. We chat about our previous experiences in swing club and how great the inverse gang bang event is. Viviana joins also and we congratulate her for the idea and the success. She promises to do it again at least every 3 months and will inform us through tweeter. Viviana is a legend in the Bogota's swing world, amazing the network of contact she has and the ability to find 10 single girls for such an event.
I comment to Viviana that this event is most probably unique in the world. The closest would be German Partytreff, but in German Partytreff girls are exploited Romanian prostitutes, while here the girls are genuine swing girls that do it because they want to, not because they need to. Also, in German Partry treff you can fuck as much as you want with as many girls you want, but you will never have them all together at the same time.
While discussing, other girls join us in the Jacuzzi. If above water it seems an informal conversation, under water is madness. I'm fingering one pussy left, another pussy right and have no clue who is giving me a hand job. I guess it's the girl in front of me as she smiles at me. I change position and come and sit next her. We start to kiss while we touch each other sexes. We decide to isolate us on one of the beds upstairs. We lay down, arm in arm, our legs twisted together and start to kiss passionately. After amazing multiple PSE sex, this time great intimate GFE. I feel how wet she is, I could slip into as my dick is stipulating her clitoris. I beg for a condom, she puts it imperceptibly while performing a blow job. I take her on missionary on a very slow rhythm while kissing her and maximizing contact between both bodies.
As I had already my orgasm, I can hold this rhythm enough till she gets her orgasm first. I then explode with my own orgasm. A guy approaches us, and starts to caress her. It doesn't care that much anymore as I have finished. I'm not sure however that she will agrees also, but soon I realize that both already know each other. We have conversation all three together, while I suddenly realize they are a couple. We chat a while, and after some time I decide to say good bye and leave the venue with my mind full of unforgettable memories.
I know most punters are reluctant to the swinger world. But it's not about bringing your wife so that other dudes can fuck them. Also, sex is guaranteed for single men. Of course it's not for the shy. You need to have no problem with staying naked and sharing space with other naked people, no problem with public sex, no problem with group sex and no problem having conversation with a guy while fucking his wife! But for me it's the greatest place of Bogota, if not in the world. I just cannot imagine another place where 7 girls would gang me for just 30 $! Remember also that the girls fuck because they want to, not because they need to, don't treat them as if they are hookers. The report is from the first reverse gang bang Viviana organized more than a year ago. She does it on a regualr basis every 3 months, starts to advertise 2 weeks in advance on twitter or on her internet site. Most of the time it's in Normandia, but once she did it also in Monasterio. If you can't plan your trip to Bogota for that event, anyway there are still every Tuesday the regular event in Normandia. Not a reverse gang bang, but just a few single girls available for the single men and some couples.[/QUOTE]
OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.
Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.
I don't think you would have any problems in the strip clubs- You would be a novelty though.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985317]OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other....[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985317]OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.
Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.[/QUOTE]Some quick answers:
Your girl will be welcome in the strip clubs, no one will bat an eye. I used to have a bisexual Colombiana girlfriend, we did it all the time. No guys will hassle your girl, obviously she is with you and there's plenty of available chocha in the club. As to the girls participating in a 3-way, I'd say only about 1 in 3 girls will go that way in my experience. The ones that do will usually charge you double since they are doing two people and money is why they are there. (Double still might be really cheap though.) Casas or swingers clubs we never tried so I can't speak to that.
As to your friend, in a way he's got a reason to be pissed, because you changed the whole idea of the trip 360 degrees when you decided to bring your girl. Yes, a part of him is probably jealous, but still it's a whole different idea than what he signed up for. For one thing he might not feel too comfortable mongering or whatever else in front of your girlfriend, especially when he's cheating on his girl at the same time. Honestly I wouldn't be able to trust her 100% if it was me. As we say "Bros before Ho's", and for all we know women feel the same way about it. (Maybe they say "Chicks before Dicks" LOL)
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985317]OK, so I am in a slight predicament, it is all my fault tho I did set myself up for failure fuck it sucks LOL. OK so first off, me and A close friend of mine we were planning to go to Bogota for a get away right now in February, but both of us have girlfriends here in the US, my relationship with my Girlfriend is totally different than his, he is very cunning / deceiving and what not, his girlfriend does not suspect or is aware of his mongering intentions when he leaves the country, luckily he uses the "visiting family" excuse since he is from Colombia (I am Hispanic too but I am not from Colombia) so he can go and do whatever, well with my current Girlfriend And I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not. So that worked out well with her, but that does not sit well with my close friend, when I told him about it he got on my fucking case, saying that if I brought my Girlfriend it will ruin the whole fucking trip, that I better not spend more time with her than with him, that this was supposed to be a bro trip, so like he was acting like a jealous girlfriend I actually laughed at the fact that he got that way and he got pissed, so like now there is this resentment going on prior to our trip, I feel like honestly he is jealous at the fact that I can have a girlfriend who is willing to go with me and do shit like that with me and in his situation he has to lie deceive and what not and does not have that for him, so I feel his resentment now, I hope he changes plus honestly I do owe him for a favor in the past, but if worst comes to it and he can't understand I will refund my ticket since I already purchased them and no fucking trip to Bogota, I am not going to put one over the other I don't care if I lose my money I told him I will reimburse his ticket and shit if we cannot work this out.
Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you have 2 problems.
First problem is, your buddy is acting like a little *****. Bros before hoes doesn't apply. It looks like you're pretty happy with your current situation. He's asking you to throw it away, because he can't bust a nut without you holding his hand.
If you go without her, it's over. It might take a month or two, but she'll walk. Is your buddy going to bring his girl over and blow you while she sits on your face?
If you try to leave your girlfriend in the hotel while you hit the casas with your buddy, you're going to have a highly pissed off girl.
There are compromises, but first your buddy needs to remove his tampon.
You're not going to be fucking 24/7. There's plenty of stuff to do in the daytime where the 3 of you can hang out. You can even hit one of the northern clubs or Pussy House, or La 49 as a group. Having your girl along might give him a better selection of girls. It's something different and women are curious. If he takes one to a room, you're not sitting bored waiting. If he wants to pull one for all night, you're not a 3rd wheel and if your girl can handle Spanish, he's more likely to get a better GFE. It's a competition thing.
It also opens up another opportunity for him. Two guys sitting in a bar isn't going to attract attention from women. One woman won't feel comfortable, she's outnumbered by strangers. Two women won't feel comfortable because it's an obvious hookup. But 2 guys, 1 girl is just social. It's safe. Getting another girl to join is easier, especially if your girl does the asking.
The only downside for him, he doesn't get to be alone with you.
The other problem shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't take her slumming in Santa Fe, but you shouldn't have issues from Chapinero north. Take her to one of the northern spas and get a couples massage, or get her a 4 hand massage.
Swing clubs should also be no problem. Can't speak for Colombia, but US clubs, the women run the show. If a guy approaches, politely send him away. If a couple approaches, tell them your rules. Just stick with what you're comfortable with.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985317]O I are very open and honest, I am the cutthroat honest motherfucker who says things how it is and tries not to sugarcoat the truth, and actually there is no need to she is very sexually open minded plus she is bisexual, we have already had threesomes here in the states with other women since she also has a sexual need for women but says she could never be romantically or emotionally in love with one LOL its all a sexual thing for her she still trusts me and what not, of course if you all ever been in that situation you all know that when you do a threesome with a significant other you cannot put so much feeling or desire on the third partner as to not hurt her feelings or cause jealousy, so it is definitely a lot different then a threesome you might have with two random hookers or swingers. OK so since me and my girlfriend have this kind of relationship I told her straight up the whole deal and that me and my friend had planned this since before we hooked up, I told her that and everything and as to why my friend is going and that we cannot tell his Girlfriend and bla bla and I knew this was coming but she said she wants to go too! LOL that she loves Latin woman and that she would fucking love to do putitours with me, go to swinger clubs go and travel and meet people and go to a different country etc etc all happy with the idea (BTW she is an American girlfriend, typical blond blue eyes pale gringa LOL but she has an Achilles heel that she loves pussy as much as she loves my dick LOL, works perfect for me) The idea of her going with me actually turns me on, having my cake and eating at the same time, as well as taking someone over there who I care for and would love to spend time with not just in the sexual sense but also in traveling and what not..[/QUOTE]
I am living her and have the same relationship with my girlfriend. Only difference, with your couple, I'm the gringo type and she is the Latina type, LOL! I confirm, there is no problem to hit the clubs with her, you can see it quiet often here that guys go with her novias in clubs for threesomes. I have been with my novia to different clubs, but also swing clubs. It doesn't mean that others guy will bang your girl friend because it's a swing club, my novia also doesn't fuck with other guys.
I understand that your friend is pissed off. I have been to clubs with my novia and other single buddy. My novia just doesn't care if the other guy goes and fuck hookers. It all depends of attitude of your novia, especially if she knows your buddies' girl friend. I believe you have to clear it out with your girlfriend before and explain it to your buddie that there would be no problem.
Regarding your technical questions, we never met hookers that refuse threesome. Some however would only interract with you, most have no problem with bisexual interraction. Some charge double, some even don't. Once I was even ruled out, both girls had so much fun that they just forgot me, lol! We have never been refused entrance to a club and never had to face disrespectful behavior of other guests. Only once in a swing club a guy was pissed off because I was fucking his wife while he couldn't fuck mine lol! But hey, these as the rules of swing clubs, mutual respect, anything might but nothing should. You should definitvely try a swing club, actually in Bogota it's more about voyeurism, feeling free to fuck your girl friend in a place were other people are fucking also, bisexual interraction between the women while couples are fucking, but very few share their novia with other dudes.
Just let me know when you are here, we could go out all together!
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985317]Now with that being said, assuming all goes well, and I take my bisexual girlfriend over there to Bogota, I was thinking are regular civilian women even allow to go to the casas and the strip joints? I mean here in the states women can go to strip clubs and have a drink and get a lap dance, but now that I think about it all the times I have been to Colombia I have never seen actual women customers in the brothels, I assume its probably because of machismo, so like my question for the veterans is can I take my gringa girlfriend to lets say Fiebre atunes casas in el chapinero etc etc LOL? And if yes do you think that there will be respect for her I mean I don't want dudes approaching her asking "cuanto cobra" and what not since she is not a working girl and she is there as my partner, plus how would that work assuming I take her and she picked a girl for me and her to fuck? Is there an upcharge, or most likely we would have to pay for 2 services for per session since is me and her, and would a lot of working girls be open about that LOL? Swing clubs I know we could do ok, even tho we have not done such a thing yet and I don't want to share her I kindly want to do swing club just so she can have another woman and also for the voyeurism, she and I enjoy being watched getting fucked, but again I don't want to share her so I am reluctant with swinger clubs. So yeah that's it basically, also do you all believe my close friend has the right to feel the way he feels? I mean yeah I probably would spend some extra time with her but he should compromise I think idk that's what I feel, but lets see hopefully I can still go next month all good, friend is happy girlfriend is happy and I am happy, and my friends girlfriend all clueless LOL.[/QUOTE]CPlus- you will have no problems going with your novia to any strip clubs of salons in Bogota. I live here and my Colombian novia is bisexual and we go a couple times a month with no problems. And you won't even be much of a novelty as I have seen other couple looking for a 3-some as well on occasion. So go have fun!
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1985478]Sounds like you have 2 problems.
First problem is, your buddy is acting like a little *****. Bros before hoes doesn't apply. It looks like you're pretty happy with your current situation. He's asking you to throw it away, because he can't bust a nut without you holding his hand.
If you go without her, it's over. It might take a month or two, but she'll walk. Is your buddy going to bring his girl over and blow you while she sits on your face?
If you try to leave your girlfriend in the hotel while you hit the casas with your buddy, you're going to have a highly pissed off girl.
There are compromises, but first your buddy needs to remove his tampon.
You're not going to be fucking 24/7. There's plenty of stuff to do in the daytime where the 3 of you can hang out. You can even hit one of the northern clubs or Pussy House, or La 49 as a group. Having your girl along might give him a better selection of girls. It's something different and women are curious. If he takes one to a room, you're not sitting bored waiting. If he wants to pull one for all night, you're not a 3rd wheel and if your girl can handle Spanish, he's more likely to get a better GFE. It's a competition thing.
It also opens up another opportunity for him. Two guys sitting in a bar isn't going to attract attention from women. One woman won't feel comfortable, she's outnumbered by strangers. Two women won't feel comfortable because it's an obvious hookup. But 2 guys, 1 girl is just social. It's safe. Getting another girl to join is easier, especially if your girl does the asking.
The only downside for him, he doesn't get to be alone with you.
The other problem shouldn't be a problem. I wouldn't take her slumming in Santa Fe, but you shouldn't have issues from Chapinero north. Take her to one of the northern spas and get a couples massage, or get her a 4 hand massage.
Swing clubs should also be no problem. Can't speak for Colombia, but US clubs, the women run the show. If a guy approaches, politely send him away. If a couple approaches, tell them your rules. Just stick with what you're comfortable with.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]My point was that his friend is now risking losing his current girlfriend if he goes to Colombia and fucks 20 chicas. He knows his "Bro" won't tell on him, but can he 100% trust that the "Ho" won't someday fill her in? I don't personally know any of the people involved so I can't make that judgement, but if I wanted to maintain the current relationship while having some fun on the side, I err on the side of caution.
[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1985641]My point was that his friend is now risking losing his current girlfriend if he goes to Colombia and fucks 20 chicas. He knows his "Bro" won't tell on him, but can he 100% trust that the "Ho" won't someday fill her in? I don't personally know any of the people involved so I can't make that judgement, but if I wanted to maintain the current relationship while having some fun on the side, I err on the side of caution.[/QUOTE]I understand where you're coming from, but the buddy isn't reciprocating. If see++ goes along, without the GF, he's going to catch hell even if he doesn't touch another girl. Meanwhile buddy gets to have all the fun he wants.
Perhaps he shouldn't have told his GF, except at some point, she would find out. They always do. In my mind, the safest thing to do is take her along.
It's something I learned in the swing clubs, years ago. Someone new to swinging would worry "what if we run into someone we know?" What can they say? "Me and Fred were at a swingers club last week, Fred was balls deep in this hot redhead, while she was munching on my box and her hubby was blowing a load on my tits, when in walks Nancy and John. I was so disgusted!" Nobody is going to say anything, because they have to incriminate themselves.
Same works with taking the GF along to the clubs and casas. She can't talk about it to anyone without explaining what she was doing in a brothel.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1985684]I understand where you're coming from, but the buddy isn't reciprocating. If see++ goes along, without the GF, he's going to catch hell even if he doesn't touch another girl. Meanwhile buddy gets to have all the fun he wants.
Perhaps he shouldn't have told his GF, except at some point, she would find out. They always do. In my mind, the safest thing to do is take her along.
It's something I learned in the swing clubs, years ago. Someone new to swinging would worry "what if we run into someone we know?" What can they say? "Me and Fred were at a swingers club last week, Fred was balls deep in this hot redhead, while she was munching on my box and her hubby was blowing a load on my tits, when in walks Nancy and John. I was so disgusted!" Nobody is going to say anything, because they have to incriminate themselves.
Same works with taking the GF along to the clubs and casas. She can't talk about it to anyone without explaining what she was doing in a brothel.[/QUOTE]I see your points, and I agree it's somewhat of a selfish move on the friends part.
I don't agree that the stigma / shame of her going into a strip club with her boyfriend would keep a girl like her quiet.
Girl A: "Your boyfriend fucked a bunch of girls when he was with us in Colombia. ".
Girl be: "OMG! Wait. How the hell would you know that?"
Girl A: "I went with them when they went to the strip clubs. He left us at the table and went into a private room with a prostitute and that's what they do there."
[QUOTE=TheShadow2;1985705]I see your points, and I agree it's somewhat of a selfish move on the friends part.
I don't agree that the stigma / shame of her going into a strip club with her boyfriend would keep a girl like her quiet.
Girl A: "Your boyfriend fucked a bunch of girls when he was with us in Colombia. ".
Girl be: "OMG! Wait. How the hell would you know that?"
Girl A: "I went with them when they went to the strip clubs. He left us at the table and went into a private room with a prostitute and that's what they do there."[/QUOTE]Where that falls apart is she will be participating. Her reputation also takes a hit. Most girls have no problem with a bi friend, but they get a little weird when they find out the bi friend is hiring prostitutes. There's a stigma.
Plus she would be going as an accomplice, which torpedoes any friendship she has with buddy's GF. Now that she knows about the trip, the safest thing is to bring her along and keep her satisfied.
It has been already 5 days since I spilled the beans about the situation, and it seems that is not resolving, basically like Shadow said, my friend is very paranoid and does not trust my girl, and as a matter of fact I am second guessing and thinking it through if I actually made the right decision with telling her the whole story, but I felt like I had to because she told me she had desires of traveling there anyways even before mentioning the perverted intentions of the trip (his GF on the other hand is not too interested and has a lot more to do here, her career school etc etc) And I was thinking too maybe its not going to end well, first off yes I have had a couple of threesomes with my partner here, and honestly they have not been the best threesomes I have had, even tho in my first post I sounded like it was the greatest thing ever, I remember the 1st one was with a lesbian friend she had, she actually was in love with my GF, but my GF did not reciprocate the feelings and she would join us and actually deal with me just to be with her, very super mechanical sex with that lesbian girl and she honestly hates and envies the living hell out of me, so those occasions were super awkward and uncomfortable (my GF was tired of how jealous and possessive she was trying to be so she told her to get the hell out of our lives LOL) then it happen again with another friend of her's, she was bisexual, but her lesbianism was stronger than her heteronism, unlike my GF who is more hetero than lesbian but still has a lesbian desire, with her it was a thing where my GF made the rules, I could only act according the way my GF wanted, if she did not feel comfortable or if she felt her friend was being to flirtatious with me she would stop it or make it mechanical, my GF is selfish now that I think about it and honestly I can see her get mad the moment a Working girl over there might focus more attention to me than her, and unfortunately with the rules me and her set up for the relationship I don't have much to say (rules are my my girlfriend cannot have sex with another man at all, she agreed then Rule 2# is that I obviously cannot be with another girl by myself, nor without her knowledge. I can only fuck another girl in the condition that we can share it and it has to be of her choosing and she decides and controls how the sexual situation goes).
Like I reiterated, I see a problem as to where this will go, she knows no Spanish for shit, so she cannot communicate with the chicas thus will not be able to control the sexual situation to her liking, and with that said there are more chances the chicas will focus more on me than the non Spanish speaking gringa and it will cause my GF to be super jealous and go crazy, especially since my GF likes to smoke weed and drink and obviously she will smoke a shit load while over there since its cheap so I am afraid she might act psycho in a situation gone bad, at the end of the day she might sexually liberal but she still a woman and they are unfortunately complicate creatures, even with this honest and cutthroat relationship me and her have, then of course it goes the situation where I can't be for sure she would not tell my friend GF about the situation, which again I regret telling my GF because now I am not sure what the future holds, maybe one day my GF and my friend fight and my GF acts like a * and retaliates by snitching, BTW my GF and his GF have no sort of communication nor are they close friends, they know each other but honestly my friend GR is not to fond of my GF and they don't talk at all, two totally different women, my friends girl is a very brazen, independent self righteous bitchy woman, but very clever and ingenious, the kind of woman you would want as a daughter minus the part that she is with a lying cheating boyfriend, my girlfriend is more of a one day at a time girlfriend, a lot more calm and mellow and liberal, smokes pot and drinks often and is not as formal / mature nor as clever or independent than my friend GF.
Let see how this plays out, I believe now with close analyzation I probably fucked up by being honest, even tho my relationship with her is all based on honesty but I did not meant to jeopardize my friends relationship nor have him be collateral damage, I think there could be a chance that there will be no Colombia trip and kind of let it go, or we could go because I honestly do desire other women even with the rules and stipulations my GF puts but again now the concern goes with how safe is my friend secret with my GF. I want to believe she won't say shit but like you all said when it comes to women you can never know. Again it helps that they have no sort of friendship nor relationship so my GF has no pity nor empathy to their situation, she knows she don't like her nor me so I think low key my GF is gloating and happy at the fact that she knows she is being cheated on. Again I just hope in some future if me and her don't work out she will not use the trip to blackmail my friend.
It is a recipe for disaster, I have thought it through and it is going to suck, my girlfriend is not ugly by any means, but she is not as hot or has the body type like many Colombians. Just thinking my girlfriend is a skinny ass barely no tits or ass girl and I can already see the future of her being so insecure and jealous when she will see all the chicas over there with nice silicon asses and tits, women with great proportionate body, which yeah she probably will love in a sexual sense but not when they become all friendly and feminine and flirtatious to me because that is how the culture is there, l see that is going to be a cultural shock to her that she may not be too fond of, especially since she will have the language barrier and thus the chicas over there will probably only be communicating with me, thus more reason my girl might feel more like shit. Goddammit should have thought of all these scenarios before I opened my fucking mouth.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985837]It is a recipe for disaster, I have thought it through and it is going to suck, my girlfriend is not ugly by any means, but she is not as hot or has the body type like many Colombians. Just thinking my girlfriend is a skinny ass barely no tits or ass girl and I can already see the future of her being so insecure and jealous when she will see all the chicas over there with nice silicon asses and tits, women with great proportionate body, which yeah she probably will love in a sexual sense but not when they become all friendly and feminine and flirtatious to me because that is how the culture is there, l see that is going to be a cultural shock to her that she may not be too fond of, especially since she will have the language barrier and thus the chicas over there will probably only be communicating with me, thus more reason my girl might feel more like shit. Goddammit should have thought of all these scenarios before I opened my fucking mouth.[/QUOTE]You can't unsay what's been said. Currently, the only thing in your favor is the 2 girls aren't friendly.
You can break up with her and postpone the trip, until she's completely out of your life. Or at least far enough out that she won't know about it. She still could say something, but now it's coming from a jealous ex, "crazy ***** will say anything. ".
You can change your rules. Your current rules, she gets no other dick, you and her only get other pussy together and she controls how much you get, aren't really fair to anyone. Go in the direction of full swinging.
Swinging is too broad of a term. There are a lot of variations. From mild to wild, here they are:
Girls play. Just like it sounds the girls make out, and go as far together as they want, the guys watch and participate only with their own girl.
Same room sex. Which is the next step. You end up with 2 or more couples, all having sex in the same room, often on the same bed.
Soft swap. Guys and girls play together, both guys play with both girls, but only penetration with your own girl.
Same room swap. After all the other stuff, penetration with other girls is allowed, but only together, only in the same room. This is also called Full swap.
Separate room swap. This can range from just switching girls and going to separate bedrooms, to switching girls and going on separate vacations.
Most swingers work up to full swap and stay there.
If your girl is more hetero, then she wants other dick, just like you want other pussy. She probably won't tell you she wants other dick, but unless you're the world's greatest lover, she would like some variety.
Swingers, as a group, tend to be less judgemental. It's more about the sex than having the perfect body. You'll find your own comfort zone, but you're unlikely to find people who will try to make either of you feel inferior. There are all types. I've seen a couple in their 70's fucking at the bar in a swingers club, I've seen couples that looked like Sumo wrestlers. I've seen couples in their 20's swapping with a couple in their late 50's.
Jealousy becomes less of an issue, because you're both getting more and better sex.
Of course, swinging requires more maturity and a strong commitment. It can cause breakups. On the plus side, if there is a breakup, all the swinging is never mentioned again.
If you take that route, you'll just have to figure out whether to split time swinging and being with your friend, or to bring him to a swingers club on a night when single guys are allowed. It will eliminate any worries about her blabbing to anyone.
Or, you can take her along and realize that you're not going to get everything you want. Your Spanish skills will help. You can explain clearly what you expect and that satisfying your girl is first priority. You don't get unlimited fucking with hot chicks, but you do get something out of it, and you'll probably spend less money.
You can go as planned without her. There's no way that ends well. You just have to ride it out and probably replace all the things she breaks or rips up.
Or you can cancel the trip. Which doesn't resolve anything. She can still say something.
You're right. You shouldn't have said anything, other than telling her you had committed to the trip before you met her. I still say the best bet, under the current rules, is take her, and do your best to keep her face buried in Colombian pussy. A few photos for future leverage might also help.
[QUOTE=Routard;1984892]I received a tweet from Viviana....[/QUOTE]I went there one Tuesday last month, must admit I was a bit disappointed. The decor is rather dated and not in best condition and my twin Colombian beęte noires -- plastic furniture and concrete -- is all over the place. My masajista wasn't comfortable with public fucking, think it might have been her first time working there. Every time I went to fuck a bunch of guys would appear from nowhere and be quite in our faces even though she wasn't responding to them. Only one couple, rather on plus size, and very few girls. Bit of a damp squib of an evening I'd have to say. I'd try it again, I guess, just in case I hit a poor night, but it's nothing like the warm vibe you get at swinger clubs in the US.
[QUOTE=CPlusPlus;1985837]my girlfriend is a skinny ass barely no tits or ass girl.[/QUOTE]Send her over. It'll make a change from all the fat Colombian silicone.
I promise not to leave her too sticky. .
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1986155]I went there one Tuesday last month, must admit I was a bit disappointed. The decor is rather dated and not in best condition and my twin Colombian bete noires -- plastic furniture and concrete -- is all over the place. My masajista wasn't comfortable with public fucking, think it might have been her first time working there. Every time I went to fuck a bunch of guys would appear from nowhere and be quite in our faces even though she wasn't responding to them. Only one couple, rather on plus size, and very few girls. Bit of a damp squib of an evening I'd have to say. I'd try it again, I guess, just in case I hit a poor night, but it's nothing like the warm vibe you get at swinger clubs in the US.[/QUOTE]Sounds like typical "single man night" at any US club I've been to. Typically the only couples who show for those nights are gang bang enthusiasts. The single guys tend to swarm any time they think there's a chance to see or touch a naked woman. Very unnerving to most women, especially if they're new to the scene.
Couples only events tend to be much better.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;1986155] I'd try it again, I guess, just in case I hit a poor night, but it's nothing like the warm vibe you get at swinger clubs in the US.[/QUOTE]The reverse Gang Bang is once every three months, the last one was early December and it was hold exceptionaly in Monasterio, much better facilities than Normandia. Viviana starts to advertise 2 weeks in advance once date is settled. As I mentioned in my report, during the reverse gang bang event there are 10 single girls while on usual tuesdays there are 2 girls.
[QUOTE=Routard;1986340]The reverse Gang Bang is once every three months, the last one was early December and it was hold exceptionaly in Monasterio, much better facilities than Normandia. Viviana starts to advertise 2 weeks in advance once date is settled. As I mentioned in my report, during the reverse gang bang event there are 10 single girls while on usual tuesdays there are 2 girls.[/QUOTE]Sounds a better event. Next one is in March.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1986266]Sounds like typical "single man night" at any US club I've been to. Typically the only couples who show for those nights are gang bang enthusiasts. The single guys tend to swarm any time they think there's a chance to see or touch a naked woman. Very unnerving to most women, especially if they're new to the scene.
Couples only events tend to be much better.[/QUOTE]Could well be: never been to a single man night in the US. But FFS guys, have they never seen a naked woman before? Show a bit of fucking subtlety!
Just got back from Bogota and I had a great time. I stayed at the Hotel San Francisco which is right next to the Santa Fe district. The street girls near the clubs were just adorable. I had to walk around a couple of times just looking at the incredible line up. For 50 k I had a nice thick chica work me like she was my girlfriend, multiple positions and very passionate it could have been an act but she had me believing. After I came she laid on top of me and started kissing me all over my neck and chest it was very nice. I had another girl for 40 k she was around 20 years old she had braces and a small tight smoking hot body with a very tight and very pretty pussy. While it wasn't as passionate as the night before, she knows how to please a man and she's definitely better than some of the skanks I have to put up with over here. The third woman was a little older but I wanted to try something different and it was quite good. With her years of experience she knows how to please a man and she did have a nice round ass, some gigantic tits and gave me a BBBJ before jumping on top and riding me like she was a jockey. As a single man not interested in ever getting married I wonder why we can't have a setup like this in America. One can wish and hope but knowing I can hop a plane and three or four hours be in chica heaven makes me feel better. I've been to Cartegena so I guess I'll try Medellin next.
Happy hunting.
Hi all,
Just finished reading up on the forum getting ready to return to Bogota for another season.
Last Year I found myself pretty much going to Santa Fe exclusively. I'm 6'4 330 lbs never really worry about safety but some ******* tried robbing me late one night in Santa Fe that was the first time in all my years anyone ever tried. I was done at paisas like 1 am and I was standing outside on the Troya corner carrera 16 calle 24 waiting for an uber thought ID do him a favor and have him pick me up on the next street because regular taxis could make a big stink so when he was near I walked towards the trans milenio on calle 24 and he was waiting on calle 15 just before I was about to get in this pretty big guy demands my cellphone and hes pointing his fingers through his shirt like a gun LOL. My first reaction was to push him away but worst of all the uber guy took off!! I ran after him the uber guy like a block before he would stop, adrenaline was pumping but I didn't get stabbed or shot. Ironically, I always told myself I would just give my money if I was ever robbed but first time it happens I do the wrong thing, what if I had been wrong about his fingers.
So I promise to give up my money next time no matter what even if it looks like fingers instead of a glock. LOL.
Here are some of my observations from last year I went to lidos, Lalos, La49, pussyhouse, nanxing, mezzanines, every joint north of the trannies in Santa Fe, and a universitaria from mileroticos, and all the talent is pretty much the same the hottest girl at lido in the north (300,000 for bottle of agua ardiente) is no better looking then the hottest girl in Fiebre (60,000 for a bottle agua ardiente) the lido girl has nicer clothes she's more eager to try her stupid English on you (yawn) and back at your room a little more girlfriend like than the Santa Fe girl but her body is no different than the top girl at La casona en Santa Fe. They look exactly the same. You can hunt high (Lalos or lido) and low (cuadra picha) the best place in all of Bogota is Santa Fe.
Not all of Santa Fe is the same la piscina and el castillo might as well be clip joints in Zona Rosa. Same prices. The girls on the streets out front of the love motels in Santa Fe are gross. They see a lot of clients especially the good looking ones I went in with a couple finally learned that they are just too busy, their rooms are sweaty from last guy yuck! Girls are zombies. The place to go in all of Bogota is a strip. You start at Troyas and work your way out the back of Troya down calle 16 a all the clubs on 16 a paisas fiebre la casona all have the same girls. They move around from Troya to paisas to la casona to fiebre mabye even across the street to Venus and Apollo but that's it. Also if you just sit and wait at a club they'll all pass through. They cost 70 k 5 k for the room and 20 minutes well 15 minutes if you don't slip the room girl a tip (she'll knock at 15 min or 20 min based on tip). This strip peaks between 6 and 9 pm catering to the after work crowd most of the hotties leave by 10 pm to return to the south after the pickings are slim. Not many of these girls are setup for a TLN you'd have to go to the clip joints for that even arranging by whatsapp another day is difficult to get them out for a TLN because they're more 3 pm to 11 pm working girls home to pretend with family friends that they work in restaurant. But everything's possible if you were willing to offer a Troya-to-Fiebre Strip girl 780,000 to spend a night at your hotel (180 k multa and 600 K ud pay at lidos not to mention 200 k in drinks) she would eat the corn out of your s*. And spend the whole night with you. I'm pretty much ok with 20 min in the back room however, I did meet a spinner that I wanted to spend more time with she was that cute! So what I did was took her from paisas to a love motel in Santa Fe at the end of carrera 16 at calle 25 is Hospedaje El Gigante she and I made sweet love LOL from about 5 pm to midnight there for 250 k 35 k for the room 33 k for the domicillo (roasted chicken) LOL I enjoyed that, also 20 k to do her nails at the salon on the corner. LOL. She was the best girl ever in 13 years. 350 k is probably what I spent my first time in Pelyclub Cartagena in 2004 for 45 min in house. ALso, sometimes from 6 to 9 pm in those clubs you'll see some real stunners especially the operadas (fake tits and ass) they'll usually be all caught up in the lap dances on the stage with the DJ working the crowds at those peak times when tons of Colombians are there to get a lap dance nothing else at those times they're to busy to give a gringo with plata the attention he deserves because 70 k isn't much compared to 10 to 20 k a song they'll get letting a Colombian guy motorboat them before they go home form work. Bear this in mind at those peak times at the Troya-to-Fiebre strip you might start talking up a girl who has no interest in anything other than a lap dance or drink. Its only for those peak hours. And that brings me to my final piece of advice. Where ever you are in Bogota if you're negotiating with some chica on ST or TLN trust your gut if its difficult getting her to order a drink, if it feels like she's difficult, if she's doing a lot of talking and not enough caressing there at the table, if it seems like she's cold, or all business or way to interested in telling you how it is, if she doesn't have a cell phone number and if she's bossy,. It aint going to get any better in the room. Be prepared at all times to just trust your gut and walk. Because you like me will find your sweet little doll just keep looking and don't settle and stick to the Troya-to-Fiebre Strip.
Remember, we're all in this together.
Tom Power.
[QUOTE=Drf1987;1987807]Just got back from Bogota and I had a great time. I stayed at the Hotel San Francisco which is right next to the Santa Fe district. The street girls near the clubs were just adorable. I had to walk around a couple of times just looking at the incredible line up. For 50 k I had a nice thick chica work me like she was my girlfriend, multiple positions and very passionate it could have been an act but she had me believing. After I came she laid on top of me and started kissing me all over my neck and chest it was very nice. I had another girl for 40 k she was around 20 years old she had braces and a small tight smoking hot body with a very tight and very pretty pussy. While it wasn't as passionate as the night before, she knows how to please a man and she's definitely better than some of the skanks I have to put up with over here. The third woman was a little older but I wanted to try something different and it was quite good. With her years of experience she knows how to please a man and she did have a nice round ass, some gigantic tits and gave me a BBBJ before jumping on top and riding me like she was a jockey. As a single man not interested in ever getting married I wonder why we can't have a setup like this in America. One can wish and hope but knowing I can hop a plane and three or four hours be in chica heaven makes me feel better. I've been to Cartegena so I guess I'll try Medellin next.
Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]I like San Francisco too. I'll be staying there this Monday. It's been almost 2 years since I've been. I walked to Santa Fe in daytime for girls in the little houses and then Atunes and then strip clubs at night. What time did you get the street girls approximately? You didn't make it to Atunes or strip clubs in Santa Fe?
[QUOTE=Drf1987;1987807]Just got back from Bogota and I had a great time. I stayed at the Hotel San Francisco which is right next to the Santa Fe district. The street girls near the clubs were just adorable. I had to walk around a couple of times just looking at the incredible line up. For 50 k I had a nice thick chica work me like ..
With her years of experience she knows how to please a man and she did have a nice round ass, some gigantic tits and gave me a BBBJ before jumping on top and riding me like she was a jockey. As a single man not interested in ever getting married I wonder why we can't have a setup like this in America. One can wish and hope but knowing I can hop a plane and three or four hours be in chica heaven makes me feel better. I've been to Cartegena so I guess I'll try Medellin next.
Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]Streety Sweeties-- That's what I'm talking 'about!
Since I Live down here I need to economize as I sometimes go 3-4 times a week and I have hooked up with street girls that could work at Lalos or Lido or wherever. I get to take my time and meet the Really Hot ones! I sometimes will Bone down twice and pay a total of $80 mil or less.
[QUOTE=Cessna2100;1988104]I like San Francisco too. I'll be staying there this Monday. It's been almost 2 years since I've been. I walked to Santa Fe in daytime for girls in the little houses and then Atunes and then strip clubs at night. What time did you get the street girls approximately? You didn't make it to Atunes or strip clubs in Santa Fe?[/QUOTE]Consider Hotel Ibus just a few blocks north $25 a night-- Girl Friendly.
[URL]http://hoteles.tiquetesbaratos.com/413693hoi-ibis-bogota-museo-bogota-cundinamarca/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1988515]Consider Hotel Ibus just a few blocks north $25 a night-- Girl Friendly.
[URL]http://hoteles.tiquetesbaratos.com/413693hoi-ibis-bogota-museo-bogota-cundinamarca/[/URL][/QUOTE]$25/ night? I take it that's the cash price. Online they are at $53 per night. Sometimes the discount offers aren't really a discount. At $25 it looks like a great bargain.
[QUOTE=Cessna2100;1988104]I like San Francisco too. I'll be staying there this Monday. It's been almost 2 years since I've been. I walked to Santa Fe in daytime for girls in the little houses and then Atunes and then strip clubs at night. What time did you get the street girls approximately? You didn't make it to Atunes or strip clubs in Santa Fe?[/QUOTE]I went around 6:30 pm. Right when it got dark. For some reason I guess because I hunt at night in the states I just couldn't do anything but look during the day. No I didn't make it to any of the strip clubs I saw what I liked on the streets and went for it.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1988540]$25/ night? I take it that's the cash price. Online they are at $53 per night. Sometimes the discount offers aren't really a discount. At $25 it looks like a great bargain.[/QUOTE]Whoops- I meant $35- That is what 2 people I know have paid recently.
[QUOTE=Drf1987;1988611]I went around 6:30 pm. Right when it got dark. For some reason I guess because I hunt at night in the states I just couldn't do anything but look during the day. No I didn't make it to any of the strip clubs I saw what I liked on the streets and went for it.[/QUOTE]Went to Atunes with a client about 3 pm on Friday, about 12-15 girls- Some nice lookers.
[QUOTE=TomPower;1987833]Hi all,
Just finished reading up on the forum getting ready to return to Bogota for another season.
Last Year I found myself pretty much going to Santa Fe exclusively. I'm 6'4 330 lbs never really worry about safety but some ******* tried robbing me late one night in Santa Fe that was the first time in all my years anyone ever tried. I was done at paisas like 1 am and I was standing outside on the Troya corner carrera 16 calle 24 waiting for an uber thought ID do him a favor and have him pick me up on the next street because regular taxis could make a big stink so when he was near I walked towards the trans milenio on calle 24 and he was waiting on calle 15 just before I was about to get in this pretty big guy demands my cellphone and hes pointing his fingers through his shirt like a gun LOL. My first reaction was to push him away but worst of all the uber guy took off!! I ran after him the uber guy like a block before he would stop, adrenaline was pumping but I didn't get stabbed or shot. Ironically, I always told myself I would just give my money if I was ever robbed but first time it happens I do the wrong thing, what if I had been wrong about his fingers.
[/QUOTE]Best strategy is to have as little on you as possible. Leave your iphone at the hotel and move around with a cheap one. Have on your person a debit card with very little balance on it. Also a small amount of cash which will do no harm to hand over.
Hello to all,
So I've been reading this forum for a few week and all of the comments, & I've viewed the infamous "map" on here. And honestly its all a lot to take in. So my goal with this post is to get some tips and solid destination advice. I'm capable of referencing the map and looking in my area but you all might be able to suggest better places.
I'm traveling to Bogota in a week on 2/2 - 2/6 Ill be staying at Doubletree Calle 100 Transversal 21 # 98-20. I never been there before & its me and the guys.
So if anybody is in the area ID love to meet up and see the city!
1. I've been reading the forum and obviously there are hundreds of "Palacetes (Chica Casa)" But can anyone suggest a couple destinations that are known to be "highly recomnended" or is there a General Consensu or several location that are just great? Any recent advice would be great.
2. Are there any "highly recommend" websites where I can view my options?
3. Maybe I'm slow, but the prices "40 k-60 k for full service" is that just $40-$60 dollars?
4. I've read that outcalls can be tricky at certain hotels, so ill proceed at my own risk but has anyone had any success with outcalls?
40,000 k is pesos and is $13.
[URL]https://www.oanda.com/currency/converter/[/URL]
[QUOTE=TravelXX;1990108]Hello to all,
So I've been reading this forum for a few week and all of the comments, & I've viewed the infamous "map" on here. And honestly its all a lot to take in. So my goal with this post is to get some tips and solid destination advice. I'm capable of referencing the map and looking in my area but you all might be able to suggest better places.
I'm traveling to Bogota in a week on 2/2 - 2/6 Ill be staying at Doubletree Calle 100 Transversal 21 # 98-20. I never been there before & its me and the guys.
So if anybody is in the area ID love to meet up and see the city!
1. I've been reading the forum and obviously there are hundreds of "Palacetes (Chica Casa)" But can anyone suggest a couple destinations that are known to be "highly recomnended" or is there a General Consensu or several location that are just great? Any recent advice would be great.
2. Are there any "highly recommend" websites where I can view my options?
3. Maybe I'm slow, but the prices "40 k-60 k for full service" is that just $40-$60 dollars?
4. I've read that outcalls can be tricky at certain hotels, so ill proceed at my own risk but has anyone had any success with outcalls?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=TravelXX;1990108]Hello to all,
So I've been reading this forum for a few week and all of the comments, & I've viewed the infamous "map" on here. And honestly its all a lot to take in. So my goal with this post is to get some tips and solid destination advice. I'm capable of referencing the map and looking in my area but you all might be able to suggest better places.
I'm traveling to Bogota in a week on 2/2 - 2/6 Ill be staying at Doubletree Calle 100 Transversal 21 # 98-20. I never been there before & its me and the guys.
So if anybody is in the area ID love to meet up and see the city!
1. I've been reading the forum and obviously there are hundreds of "Palacetes (Chica Casa)" But can anyone suggest a couple destinations that are known to be "highly recomnended" or is there a General Consensu or several location that are just great? Any recent advice would be great.
2. Are there any "highly recommend" websites where I can view my options?
3. Maybe I'm slow, but the prices "40 k-60 k for full service" is that just $40-$60 dollars?
4. I've read that outcalls can be tricky at certain hotels, so ill proceed at my own risk but has anyone had any success with outcalls?[/QUOTE]The Mezzanine is a Day time complex with lots of nice chicas in 4 -5 different shops- 90 mil + But that is for an hour or so calle 104 and carrera 15.
[QUOTE=TravelXX;1990108]4. I've read that outcalls can be tricky at certain hotels, so ill proceed at my own risk but has anyone had any success with outcalls?[/QUOTE]I leave the day before, to bad, I'm no expert but have already tried different venues.
Outcalls, I've tried Paula Gomez her whatsapp is 57 31XXXX8436, she has a website as well, good value for Bogota. Liz Mendez is a high end agency. I've used them a few times. Some girls are reasonable priced but others are to high for me. I call to discuss what I want so I'm getting the best value for my money. They speak english and will send pics via whatsapp, number is 57 312XXXX976.
From my short experience in Bog I liked the Pussy house and La 49 for night time action.
GF.
[QUOTE=TravelXX;1990108]Hello to all,
So I've been reading this forum for a few week and all of the comments, & I've viewed the infamous "map" on here. And honestly its all a lot to take in. So my goal with this post is to get some tips and solid destination advice. I'm capable of referencing the map and looking in my area but you all might be able to suggest better places.
I'm traveling to Bogota in a week on 2/2 - 2/6 Ill be staying at Doubletree Calle 100 Transversal 21 # 98-20. I never been there before & its me and the guys.
So if anybody is in the area ID love to meet up and see the city!
1. I've been reading the forum and obviously there are hundreds of "Palacetes (Chica Casa)" But can anyone suggest a couple destinations that are known to be "highly recomnended" or is there a General Consensu or several location that are just great? Any recent advice would be great.
2. Are there any "highly recommend" websites where I can view my options?
3. Maybe I'm slow, but the prices "40 k-60 k for full service" is that just $40-$60 dollars?
4. I've read that outcalls can be tricky at certain hotels, so ill proceed at my own risk but has anyone had any success with outcalls?[/QUOTE]1. As someone else mentioned, try the Mezzanine during the day. Picture attached below. It's on Carrera 15, on the northwest corner of Calle 104, a short walk from your hotel. Go up the stairs, there are 4 or 5 office suites, on each side, with blacked out doors. Inside each are 4 or 5 women. 90 k gets an hour of massage plus sex. If they charge more you can usually talk them down. It's a good place to start.
Most of the North, high end clubs are in the area. Check the map. They are much more expensive, in the 250 k range. Your hotel is a short ways from the Transmilenio, Calle 100 station. 2 k pesos will take you to Chapinero. Depending on which place you are going, check the map, get off somewhere between the Calle 76 and Marly stations. Just don't try it during rush hour. A Google search for Transmilenio stations will bring up a route map, or there is an app.
2. There aren't any highly recommended websites. You can try Mileroticos, but don't expect accurate pictures. One of the Mezzanine places advertises there.
3. Prices are in pesos. 40 k is 40,000 pesos. 40 k is $13.65 at the current exchange rate. Unless you're picking up streetwalker in Santa Fe, you probably will pay at least 70 k for full service, about $24. That price goes to $100 and up depending on where you are.
4. Send an email to your hotel and ask them what their guest policy is. Or you can call and ask. They may require you reserve double occupancy, they may charge a fee, they may have no restrictions, or they may not allow any guests. One option is to use a love motel. Prices are 19 k and up for 4 hours, $6. 50 and up. Any outcall can probably direct you to a nearby one.
Good luck.
My friend just got back, he liked Pussy House as well.
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;1990189]I leave the day before, to bad, I'm no expert but have already tried different venues.
Outcalls, I've tried Paula Gomez her whatsapp is 57 3125618436, she has a website as well, good value for Bogota. Liz Mendez is a high end agency. I've used them a few times. Some girls are reasonable priced but others are to high for me. I call to discuss what I want so I'm getting the best value for my money. They speak english and will send pics via whatsapp, number is 57 3125144976.
From my short experience in Bog I liked the Pussy house and La 49 for night time action.
GF.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Woodman09;1988928]Went to Atunes with a client about 3 pm on Friday, about 12-15 girls- Some nice lookers.[/QUOTE]I'm already looking at dates for a return trip. I've been gone for a little over a week and I miss it already.
Yesterday I booked 2 hours with a girl called Elizabeth from [URL]www.escortsincolombia.com[/URL]. It costs 200 $ for 2 hours (in call. She came directly to my hotel room) - but it was worth the money. Why? See here:
1) fast and friendly answer to my request. They send me a list of all currently available girls in the city.
2) On time at my hotel room.
3) Very good sex, but only with condom. But it was worth it!
4) Friendly and polite girl, she did speak English as well.
5) I could choose whatever position I wanted. After one hour I was so pleased that for the rest of the time she gave my a tantra massage.
Only negative point is the money (200 $, or 550.000 COP), but its worth it! Contact to agency in English, girl did speak English.
I will chose this agency again, if I m the next time in Colombia. But another girl. I always prefer a new girl.
Spam by a first poster with a name similar to his website.
This purported "escort site" has no details on the girls. Only way to contact "me" is via email. He is harvesting emails for his spam list. But there is a link to sign up for a course on how to pick up spanish girls. Limited Time! Only $77!
[QUOTE=ColombiaGirls;1991888]Yesterday I booked 2 hours with a girl called Elizabeth from [URL]www.escortsincolombia.com[/URL]. It costs 200 $ for 2 hours (in call. She came directly to my hotel room) - but it was worth the money. Why? See here:
1) fast and friendly answer to my request. They send me a list of all currently available girls in the city.
2) On time at my hotel room.
3) Very good sex, but only with condom. But it was worth it!
4) Friendly and polite girl, she did speak English as well.
5) I could choose whatever position I wanted. After one hour I was so pleased that for the rest of the time she gave my a tantra massage.
Only negative point is the money (200 $, or 550.000 COP), but its worth it! Contact to agency in English, girl did speak English.
I will chose this agency again, if I m the next time in Colombia. But another girl. I always prefer a new girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RubMeister100;1992033]Spam by a first poster with a name similar to his website.
This purported "escort site" has no details on the girls. Only way to contact "me" is via email. He is harvesting emails for his spam list. But there is a link to sign up for a course on how to pick up spanish girls. Limited Time! Only $77![/QUOTE]550 k for 2 hours, but it's worth it!
Why pay $75 for a hamburger, when you can get 15 hamburgers for the same price?
[QUOTE=ColombiaGirls;1991888]Yesterday I booked 2 hours with a girl called Elizabeth from [URL]www.escortsincolombia.com[/URL]. It costs 200 $ for 2 hours (in call. She came directly to my hotel room) - but it was worth the money. Why? See here:
1) fast and friendly answer to my request. They send me a list of all currently available girls in the city.
2) On time at my hotel room.
3) Very good sex, but only with condom. But it was worth it!
4) Friendly and polite girl, she did speak English as well.
5) I could choose whatever position I wanted. After one hour I was so pleased that for the rest of the time she gave my a tantra massage.
Only negative point is the money (200 $, or 550.000 COP), but its worth it! Contact to agency in English, girl did speak English.
I will chose this agency again, if I m the next time in Colombia. But another girl. I always prefer a new girl.[/QUOTE]Questions:
Why call it a review of Ximena if her name was Elizabeth? How big was the list? At any time there are at least 100,000 girls available in Bogota. How do they keep track of them all? You could choose any position? If I'm paying $200, she's going to be in positions she's never even heard of. Who would pay $200 for 1 position?
The big question: Why does it matter to you if she or the agency speaks English? Spanish is your native language. You are a long way from being fluent in English.
Once upon a time the Admins would block these obvious ripoff ads. I guess they have been too busy.
[QUOTE=Simba05;1973729]Hi guys,
Another find on SA which I would like to share with you. A law student (actually I brought her to university next day, so yeah, its real) which just got into this world on a complete amateur level. She is definitely not a real escort so she needs a little bit of talking before getting to it. But what I got then was more than I could expect. Full submissive GFE like in my dreams. And the best: everything you see is real and natural! If interested, PM me for contact information.[/QUOTE]Can I get the Contact information for the Law student?
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[QUOTE=JjBee62;1990247]1. As someone else mentioned, try the Mezzanine during the day. Picture attached below. It's on Carrera 15, on the northwest corner of Calle 104, a short walk from your hotel. Go up the stairs, there are 4 or 5 office suites, on each side, with blacked out doors. Inside each are 4 or 5 women. 90 k gets an hour of massage plus sex. If they charge more you can usually talk them down. It's a good place to start.
Most of the North, high end clubs are in the area. Check the map. They are much more expensive, in the 250 k range. Your hotel is a short ways from the Transmilenio, Calle 100 station. 2 k pesos will take you to Chapinero. Depending on which place you are going, check the map, get off somewhere between the Calle 76 and Marly stations. Just don't try it during rush hour. A Google search for Transmilenio stations will bring up a route map, or there is an app.
2. There aren't any highly recommended websites. You can try Mileroticos, but don't expect accurate pictures. One of the Mezzanine places advertises there.
3. Prices are in pesos. 40 k is 40,000 pesos. 40 k is $13.65 at the current exchange rate. Unless you're picking up streetwalker in Santa Fe, you probably will pay at least 70 k for full service, about $24. That price goes to $100 and up depending on where you are.
4. Send an email to your hotel and ask them what their guest policy is. Or you can call and ask. They may require you reserve double occupancy, they may charge a fee, they may have no restrictions, or they may not allow any guests. One option is to use a love motel. Prices are 19 k and up for 4 hours, $6. 50 and up. Any outcall can probably direct you to a nearby one.
Good luck.[/QUOTE]Thanks, You guys are the best! Question, do you guys speak Spanish? Cause I've heard you can talk these women down but I'm not bilingual at all. Also I didn't see Mezzanine on the map just wondering if you guys were aware of that or whoever manages the maps. Also for anybody that hasn't seen my previous post my guys and I will be in Bogota Feb 2nd-5th leaving on the 6th that morning just in case anybody familiar with the area was available.
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Well, here goes the awkward question. Where / how does everyone recommend losing their virginity in Bogota?
Studying in a school down here. Despite being conversationable in Spanish, I lack pretty much anything resembling game in Spanish.
Don't know if it matters, but I'm 22 and fit.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Illyid;1995147]Well, here goes the awkward question. Where / how does everyone recommend losing their virginity in Bogota?
Studying in a school down here. Despite being conversationable in Spanish, I lack pretty much anything resembling game in Spanish.
Don't know if it matters, but I'm 22 and fit.
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Are you just looking to get laid, or are you wanting to get into the dating pool with the Colombianas? Both ways will take care of the virginity problem, but need completely different approaches.
If you just want to get laid, the solution is easy. Take some money, depending on the area of Bogota, you'll need between 70 k and 300 k pesos, go to one of the many fine establishments and exchange the money for services.
There are 5 different options, ranked from lowest to highest cost.
1. Santa Fe streetwalker. You can probably get by with 30-50 k.
2. Santa Fe or Chapinero casas. Mostly in the 50-100 k range.
3. Massage spas. Located all over, 70-150 k.
4. Strip clubs. Located from Santa Fe to Chico, costs from 100 k to over 300 k, plus drinks, possible cover charge and tips.
5. Prepagos or online advertisers. Prices from 100 k to over 1000 k.
The first 2 I wouldn't recommend for someone just starting out. You want a good first experience. The last 3 are all better choices.
Massage Spa. You get a massage along with sex, which makes it a bargain. You get to choose from at least a few different women. The massage gives you a chance to get relaxed and comfortable, get over any nervousness.
Strip Club. Can be expensive, especially if you get carried away. You get a chance to interact with the different girls, which helps to make a choice. This usually involves buying overpriced drinks so be prepared to pay.
Prepago or Advertiser - 2 downsides, the cost and the unknown. Many advertisers use fake or misleading pictures, same with some prepago agencies. However, if you have the money, you can book for multiple hours, have dinner, talk, have sex, talk, have sex, etc.
[QUOTE=Illyid;1995147]Well, here goes the awkward question. Where / how does everyone recommend losing their virginity in Bogota?
[/QUOTE]You asked the same question 7 months ago. You still haven't done the deed? You go to school there and not once did you invite a girl to go over to your place for a study session?
If you couldn't get laid in Colombia and have been trying for over half a year, I think you need a lot more than just input from us. Perhaps you need to get over some issues with your culture and religion.
Thank you for the detailed write up, JjBee62. I appreciate it.
[QUOTE=Parkinsons;1995536]You asked the same question 7 months ago. You still haven't done the deed? You go to school there and not once did you invite a girl to go over to your place for a study session?
If you couldn't get laid in Colombia and have been trying for over half a year, I think you need a lot more than just input from us. Perhaps you need to get over some issues with your culture and religion.[/QUOTE]Ah, right. I completely forgot that I even posted here previously. Sorry about that.
Unfortunately, my school has about a 20:1 male to female ratio. The one girl that has the same hours as me is (crazily) religious and continuously goes on about how people should remain chaste until marriage.
[QUOTE=Illyid;1995907]Thank you for the detailed write up, JjBee62. I appreciate it.
Ah, right. I completely forgot that I even posted here previously. Sorry about that.
Unfortunately, my school has about a 20:1 male to female ratio. The one girl that has the same hours as me is (crazily) religious and continuously goes on about how people should remain chaste until marriage.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for dating instead of pros, here is all you need to know:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas[/URL]
[QUOTE=Routard;1996147]If you are looking for dating instead of pros, here is all you need to know:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. Thank you for the amazingly detailed post, Routard.
Arrived in Bogota around 3 pm. Put my bags down and got something to eat with my friend. After we ate, we walked to chica milenos. Easy 5-10 minute walk from apartment we are staying in Chaperino. There are two guys standing on opposite sides of the street. Both of them we waiving us in. We went into chica milenos first. There were about 10-12 girls. All average looking nothing spectacular. So we then walk over to the other casa that I didn't get a name for. There were only 4 averages girls available. Nothing special. We went back to chica milenos. I chose a girl with what seemed like a nice fake ass and titties. She was Blanca. My friend chose a girl more natural indo color small breast with nice hips. My experience was horrible. While putting on the condom I brought she ripped it with her nails. The other condom she used was not to my liking. While putting that one on she scratch my dick LOL. After all that, I trooped thru but stop because the pussy was so wack. I just told her to stop and I cleaned up in sink and waited for my friends down stairs. He said his girl was nice but kept covering her asshole like he was going to steal it. He didn't enjoy the experience. Total cost 30000 for 20 minutes. My friend paid 35000 for 30 minutes. The other casa prices were the same. 70000 k for an hour.
I wasn't satisfied so I walked around near bar 70. I went I to 3 different places. I'm not sure if I actually went to bar 70. I did go into a bar like establishment. In all of them there were only about 3-4 average girls. I chose one with a big ass for 40000 30 minutes. It was a good choice. She had a big ass and tight pussy and let me pound away.
I went back to the apartment. Took a nap. Woke up around 10 pm. Took an Uber to Santa Fe. My friend was exhausted so I went alone. I went to El Castillo, Venus, Troya, Fiebre, Atunes, paisas and two others I don't remember the name of. The only ones I really liked were troya and fiebre. El Castillo had a lot of girls 40-50 but the prices were 150000 k and the girl didn't look like the girls at Troya or fiebre. The other clubs had 10-15 girls but nothing spectacular. Everything spectacular I seen was at fiebre. I stayed two chocolate Colombians both from Montero's. To keep it short, I paid 60000 k for one and 70000 k for the other. Great sex and attitude. Gave tip for pics. Troya had just as many girls but not as hot. Oh, fiebre made me pay 6000 k to get in. Everyone paid. Funny side story. When I first arrived the police pepper spray this guy and it got all in the club. Everyone ran out so I could see all the talent. It allows me to walk around until this cleaned up the place. I didn't feel any safety concerns in Santa Fe at all.
[QUOTE=Global00;1997343]Arrived in Bogota around 3 pm. Put my bags down and got something to eat with my friend. After we ate, we walked to chica milenos. Easy 5-10 minute walk from apartment we are staying in Chaperino. There are two guys standing on opposite sides of the street. Both of them we waiving us in. We went into chica milenos first. There were about 10-12 girls. All average looking nothing spectacular. So we then walk over to the other casa that I didn't get a name for. There were only 4 averages girls available. Nothing special. We went back to chica milenos. I chose a girl with what seemed like a nice fake ass and titties. She was Blanca. My friend chose a girl more natural indo color small breast with nice hips. My experience was horrible. While putting on the condom I brought she ripped it with her nails. The other condom she used was not to my liking. While putting that one on she scratch my dick LOL. After all that, I trooped thru but stop because the pussy was so wack. I just told her to stop and I cleaned up in sink and waited for my friends down stairs. He said his girl was nice but kept covering her asshole like he was going to steal it. He didn't enjoy the experience. Total cost 30000 for 20 minutes. My friend paid 35000 for 30 minutes. The other casa prices were the same. 70000 k for an hour.
I wasn't satisfied so I walked around near bar 70. I went I to 3 different places. I'm not sure if I actually went to bar 70. I did go into a bar like establishment. In all of them there were only about 3-4 average girls. I chose one with a big ass for 40000 30 minutes. It was a good choice. She had a big ass and tight pussy and let me pound away.
I went back to the apartment. Took a nap. Woke up around 10 pm. Took an Uber to Santa Fe. My friend was exhausted so I went alone. I went to El Castillo, Venus, Troya, Fiebre, Atunes, paisas and two others I don't remember the name of. The only ones I really liked were troya and fiebre. El Castillo had a lot of girls 40-50 but the prices were 150000 k and the girl didn't look like the girls at Troya or fiebre. The other clubs had 10-15 girls but nothing spectacular. Everything spectacular I seen was at fiebre. I stayed two chocolate Colombians both from Montero's. To keep it short, I paid 60000 k for one and 70000 k for the other. Great sex and attitude. Gave tip for pics. Troya had just as many girls but not as hot. Oh, fiebre made me pay 6000 k to get in. Everyone paid. Funny side story. When I first arrived the police pepper spray this guy and it got all in the club. Everyone ran out so I could see all the talent. It allows me to walk around until this cleaned up the place. I didn't feel any safety concerns in Santa Fe at all.[/QUOTE]Nice report. Thanks for the contribution. Just a note: it's 60 k, 70 k, 150 k and 6 k, not 60000 k, 70000 k, etc. Someone is bound to come along and say "you paid $21,000 US (60,000,000)?
I can confirm Fiebre a great place to visit. Don't go to Piscina, El Castillo is better but still not worth visiting. Troya and Venus are better, but Fiebre was the best energy I've seen for long time.
Noted. Sleepy texting habit I guess.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;1997429]Nice report. Thanks for the contribution. Just a note: it's 60 k, 70 k, 150 k and 6 k, not 60000 k 70000 k, etc. Someone is bound to come along and say "you paid $21,000 US (60,000,000)?[/QUOTE]
I spent the day walking to the day casa in Chapinero from 11 am-1 pm.
Palmeras Real Cra 15 #66-17 20 k-40 k.
3 girls. Doable but very average. No session.
Tantra Spa CL 67 #15-10 20 k-35 k.
One average Indo looking girl. No session.
La Bonita Cra 15 #67-24 25-30 k.
4 girls. One with bolt ONS older looking, 3 others look natural average. No session.
Las Vegas CL 67 #16-23 25-35k.
Two fat girls. One skinny girl. No session.
Club reservado ac 63 #16 a-42 unknown price.
No girls. Guy eating and listening to radio told me to come back later. It's on the second floor up a flight of stairs. You will see beads hanging from doorway.
El Paraiso CRA 15 #63-25 25-35k.
One average Indo looking girl. No session.
Lotus Bar CL 65 #13-61 unknown price.
Ring the door bells (3 on each side) no answer.
Chicas 2000 (across from chicas milenos) 40 k.
5 girls. Two pretty. Three others average but doable. The one who I wanted had black hair Blanca fishnet dress with bolts one. I was about to session until she told me no photos. I declined. She got up mad at me and stopped in front of me and mimicked a horse kicking dirt on you LOL. Quite amusing. The other was a blonde hair Blanca with bolt ONS. She had a prettier face but not in shape like the other one. This guy was talking her head off and I didn't want to wait. No session.
Chicas Milenos 30-40 k.
Two chicks. The one I had a horrible session with yesterday turned around seen me and quickly left the area. The other was brown skin tall average look no titties or ass. No session.
Disappointed by the lack of day casa availability, I went to Sante Fe. More disappointment followed. I spoke to four girls. The first were two negras. Older looking nice bodies. Wanted 60 k. Not worth it when matched against the chick from fiebre. The third was pretty blonde with bronzed skin. Nice titties and ass. Older late 20's. She want 100 k and had an attitude LOL. Quickly walked away from her. Just as I was about to leave seen the best girl if the day. Blonde haired green eyes. Huge titties and ass. She was getting in a taxi and said she had to leave and couldn't session. No my day.
I gave up. Went to the apartment. Rested up. Went back to Sante Fe at around 11 pm.
Fiebre was first. Not as many girls as yesterday. But still some lookers. I tried to survey the area but this little waitress in a pink vest kept pestering me to buy a drink. I told her give me a second. She goes and gets a another guy and he says buy a drink or leave. So I left.
I go into Venus. About 20 girls. A few doables. But nothing I wanted so I left. Didn't ask for prices.
Went to Paisas. 30-40 girls. Again pestered to buy a drink. Quickly surveyed area then I left.
Troyas. About 50 girls. One stunner that I wanted. She had everyone's attention thought. Soon as she broke away she quoted me 120 k for 30 minutes. I tried to talk her down but she wasn't budgeting. And she had an attitude. I left there and went to atunes.
Atunes had less than 20 girls. Average looking nothing special.
Walked around the club to Lions. Ran into a chick I fucked in Panama. I didn't notice her she gained some weight. But I remember she had great pussy. Haven't seen her in two years and she remembered me. Said a quick Hello, and kept it moving. About 8 girls there.
Walked to others spots along the way to la piscina and El Castillo. Nothing special in any of them. Same goes for el Castillo and la piscina. They were practically empty. One stunner in la piscina. She wanted 120 k. No bueno para mi.
I circle back to fiebre. Buy a bottle water and shake it in the waitresses face LOL. She waves me off. The this tall Indo skinned girl. Small tits medium ass starts flirting with me. Has on this red lipsticks and keeps kissing me. She started at 120 k and then 100 k. I do a couple walk around. Most of what I like is busy. I don't want to wait. Red lipstick keeps trying to entice me. So I leave and as I'm calling my Uber home, I get a text from the girl from Panama. She says she wants to see me. I struck out all day so I tell her 100 k all night. She says 150 k and I don't budge. She says OK and ask for food and to pay for her taxi. Done deal. I go home get some food call her and Uber fuck all night and wake up to more sex in the morning for 100 k, Uber and some food. Sushin to a rainy day.
Just want to confirm that Hotel B3 Virrey is GF. I brought in 5 different chicas during 6 days, and never had problems. They don't even ask to register the chicas, which is very unusual in Bogota.
OK So I am that guy that was going to take his bisexual ex-girlfriend to Bogota, but it did not happen I ended up going with just me and my buddy afterall (the situation with her had nothing to do with said trip). Trying to summarize all this I went unfortunately for only 2 days as work demanded I did and I actually purchased a ticket for a week, as well as the other chicks ticket and all together I had to spend $180 on cancellation and modifying fee So anyways, I went and tried my best to enjoy and maximize the best our of my time, in summary I went to same mongering spots as I have done in my previous trips: Fiebre, Pussy House and Chicas Milenio were on their game in spite of what Global00 said, I thought Chicas Milenio had a very good selection of pussy and I had pretty good experiences there. I did a tour of Casas in el chapinero, besides Chicas Milenios I thought the selection was shit, chicas 2000 was more decent and then after that casa Chile had 2 girls doable, then we went like to ten casas within that area (thank you Routard and World travel 69) and nothing attracted me and my buddy. Normal Club wise not brothels I went again to el Norte I was slightly disappointed went to a few clubs in Zona T including Rush, andres DC and the Irish pub and I don't know but what a shitty level of condescension that day LOL seriously in Rush we were treated like KK, juvenile club for sure a bunch of high on coke and weed teens so it really was not a pleasant experience, Andres DC was all right nothing out of the ordinary actual it was dead that Thursday we went, and finally the Irish bar was right, I saw no expats or gringos I could interact with. I enjoyed el Teatron, a gay club but no homo that place had a nice vibe and price wise was good 6 k pesos on a lot of mid and top shelf drinks, including Absolut, Jack Daniels and Bombay, I would tip the bartenders 2 k and they would make them shits really fucking strong, $3 USD on basically double mixed drinks is fucking a bargain. Jaguar was also another club I enjoyed a lot, and I went to Vlak again and had a better experience there, a lot of folks with money go there but unlike those clubs like Rush and its surrounding areas they were not douchebags there were interesting and cool folks at that underground house club in Vlak, for sure a spot I enjoy a lot (just very strict in apparel but understandable).
In Fiebre I like Daniela highly recommend her for you guys $60 k a pop, nice ass with a tattoo on her right butt check LOL but it was not bad and the girl has a pretty face and is a really good fuck. Also if you all do Airbnb I recommend you be cautious, we got a nice apartment in calle 103 we were the 1st guest for our host, we went and on the first night I went back home and took 2 girls to the apartment and my friend took one, everything good but I am thinking the guy "el portero" (security guard) was a little bitchy snitch and told the host that we took women to the apartment and she gave me a bad review in Airbnb, the apartment was kept clean, nothing taken or broken since we were barely there and just slept there LOL but yeah unpleasant her attitude so always keep conscious about that, perhaps the reason was because she is a woman.
Now let me ask you folks, two friends of mine want to make a trip there, I know its serious because they are my coworkers one is actual my boss and we thinking about going by next month but basically is Mde Or Bog better to take them? Those two people know no English but I can serve as a translator, mongering wise Bogota is superior but environment wise I feel like MDE could offer more especially with the rail line and I feel there are more young gringos in MDE they can socialize with at clubs and shit like that as opposed to BOG, but again they want do a combo of shit including fucking bitches (pros and non pros) smoke weed, club and have fun (we are very young but we all make a very decent salary / living), so I will have to see what's up with that shit, I have been at both spots extensively and I prefer Bogota for working girls but I do enjoy the social scene in MDE, if anything some of the classism douchebagness in Zona T of Bogota is comparable to that of here in Miami LMAO and that's saying much! But fuck it I see what we do.
Day 3 was all about Sante Fe. It's Sunday. The day casas were closed. It rained. Went to Sante Fe around 4 pm. Walked around and there were a few streetwalkers nothing to mention. I went to Troya. It was only 8 girls there at the time. Spot a girl with fake ass and titties. Decent face. Blanca. Dark hair. I forget her name as usual. We negotiate for 50 k with photos. The sex was good she had a small pussy which surprised me from looking at her frame.
Went back to the apartment to eat and rest up for the night. Got up around 1130 pm. Went back to Sante Fe. There weren't as many ladies walking around. More places were closed. Went to Fiebre. Not al ot of girls there. I would say about 12 girls mostly doable but nothing like Friday night. I went to Paisas. About ten girls. A handful of doables but nothing I liked. I went back to Troya. Again about 15 girls here not as many dudes which was nice. There was a girl dancing on stage with a nice ass that looked real. So I waited for her to get done and get dressed.
Her name was Gabriela. She was a 20 year old Blanca from Cali. She has medium titties that sag but a nice soft natural ass (so it seems but who knows these days). We negotiate to 60 k with pics. I remember her name because she had tight tight pussy. For all the fucking I did this weekend, she made me cum quickly. Exchanged WhatsApp and waited around Troya to see if I could get a round 2.
I sat down for about 30 minutes. Seen a girl I seen before in the club the past night. Her outfit showed more of her body then before. Really nice frame with Indo skin. Her name was Sofia. She claimed to be 21 but I don't believe her. She looked 25 or older but her body was slamming. She tried to give me the gringo price for 100 k. I negotiated her down to 60 k with pics. The sex was good but not as good as Sofia. But I enjoyed playing with her body.
For a slow day, I actually did better than yesterday. My flight leaves at 3 pm tomorrow. I will see if I can sneak in one more.
[QUOTE=ACMilan84;1998059]Just want to confirm that Hotel B3 Virrey is GF. I brought in 5 different chicas during 6 days, and never had problems. They don't even ask to register the chicas, which is very unusual in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Only during the day or also at night?
[QUOTE=Sixty9;1998417]Only during the day or also at night?[/QUOTE]Two of them spent the night with me and there wasn't any problem. I have to say the chicas I met were semi / no pros who often came to meet me directly from the university or office, didn't look like prostitutes at all, and were appropriately dressed. I met them outside the hotel, went for a coffee at a nearby Juan Valdez and then walked in together, to the elevators. For those of you who might be concerned about that, there's no way to avoid the "walk of shame" at this hotel, as the reception is right after the entrance.
I'm starting to get a taste for this place. Sunny days are actually warm with locals complaining about the heat. Being from Texas I always find this amusing. I sandwiched a MDE trip between 2 nights before and after in Bog. First 2 nights I stayed at San Francisco hotel. Very close to Santa Fe zone and easy trip to and from the airport. They charged me chica fee of 42 k with room rate of 80 k before all the fees. I did book as single so maybe the reason. Reminded me of old Ramada Inn, clean and good location but very economical in every sense of the word. I wanted to try the day action in Santa Fe and the hotel location fit that objective. Total bust for me. Afternoons, after 1 pm, I began the rounds and found nada, either in street or in the open clubs. Nothing even worth talking to and I'm really not picky. I can go from flaca to gordibuena and everything in between. Females are like a box of chocolates to me. Atunes had about 10 girls. Definitely hit or miss, this time it was a miss. But being Bog, I knew of a lot more options thanks to contributors.
Got on the red bus line with my card, crammed in with everyone, felt like the metro in DF, and made it to Chicas Milenino spa and the one across the street. 60 k for hour, really like it here, nice variety and no pressure, order beer and sit, chat and drink till ready. Had one in a basic room with bed and shower. That night went to Pussy House, they open early like 5 pm, and found a paisa girl I liked. She was willing to come to my hotel around 10 pm for 250 k. Had a great time with no clock watching. I prefer sleeping alone so never go for tln.
Next day went to reserva, fairly new place called isis, la zona rosa cra15 # 83 38 Bogota contacto 3014XXXX67 Small place but clean, with 6 girls 170 k / HR and 25 k beers. Twitter is [URL]https://twitter.com/isisbogota.[/URL] Enjoyed a young'un from Llandero part of the country.
Flew to MDE then returned for 2 nights but stayed in AirBNB apt in Chapinero. No extra fees and apt very modern for 30 usd. Very good deals to be had for those willing to leave the safety of hotels. Visited the mezzanine spas near closing time. There are about 5 separate spas, all tiny in space both in lobby and rooms. Poked my head in all of them and 4 or less girls in each during this time frame. For me there was one doable in each but #15 spa had the best line up. I could have done any of them. I chose Mia and was happy with service. They disinfect your hands and penis before so be prepared. LOL. Rooms are TINY, I felt claustrophobic but was able to do the deed on spa tables. 100 k for hour. Sitting and chatting with all the girls afterwards I found myself very relaxed in their presence. It time for dinner so just shot it out there if any or all wanted to dine with me "as friends". To my surprise all of them accepted. So here I go to the Zone Rosa area near mall Andares with 4 lovelies in tow for dinner. They chose Crepes and Waffles, first time for me as I prefer non chain food. Had a great meal together with everyone talking and laughing and not one abusing my invite. Afterwards had a drink at BBC, which is where things turned interesting, LOL. Went to the john and while waiting in line a beautiful girl (also waiting in line) asked me where I was from, knowing I was extranjero, we talked briefly. One of the spa girls saw me and they all had fun with it when I returned to our table. Fast forward, I saw the same girl having a beer by herself, finding it strange as most Colombians do not go out by themselves. The girls encouraged me to go talk to her so I did. Viviana was her stated name, who knows right, and her story was amiga stood her up hence waiting by herself. I asked if she would like to go somewhere else together. Yes, turned into a fun night of dancing and drinking a few blocks away then for the first time in my life while out, she asks,"do you pay for sex or you do not pay for sex", I about spit out my beer. I said, "this is Colombia, of course I pay for sex". Went to apt then the rest you know, 300 k for very fun fun night. I'm 52 so only have a few nights of dining, drinking, dancing and dorking a year. I cashed in one of those nights and could not be happier.
Next day went back to mezzanine spa #15 near shift overlap at 2 pm to see complete lineup and again most doable for me. Chose one of the lovelies from the dinner before as I really liked her personality. There is a larger room so ask for that, I moved table away from wall, helped access in more positions. Worth waiting for in my opinion. Asked her to see me after her shift. She agreed but says it must be done discreetly. She met me for dinner then went back to my apt for nightcap.
Only been to BOG three times in 2 trips and each one has been different then the other. Going to try the swinger places on solo night as I have enjoyed them in Europe. It's not a scene for everyone but once in awhile I do enjoy it as surprises happen each time I foray into that erotic zone.
GF.
Castillo is closed. According local news, owners were involved in narco traffic. www.eltiempo.com/politica/justicia/hallazgos-en-el-prostibulo-el-castillo-en-bogota-ligado-a-la-mafia/16823049
Hey guys,
I'm looking for some good solid help!
Me and my friend are looking to have a great week in Bogota next month. We like to go to the nightclubs have some drinks then when we are ready hit up the strip clubs to take some women home. What best strip clubs would you guys recommend. We want to be able to have the right line up to choose from the hottest girls to take to our hotel in park 93. Also what times do the strip clubs close? What are the going rates for late night strip clubs to take a girl home. I like to be in the comfort of my own room and do as I please then be in a nasty uncomfortable room. Are all these clubs to get a girl in Santa Fe? For just some reason I don't feel comfortable with a street girl. I rather from an organization like strip club and a better environment.
Never been to Bogota, but have been to Rio where the strip Club's were very welcoming and organized have a few drinks pick what you like and leave. No pressure, air conditioned and simple. Anybody have any comparison between the two countries.
During the day, we like to get massages an actually a real one with happy ending. Then there are times we just want to go in and pick and fuck. What places would you recommend that are good for both.
I hear zona rosa are good for regular night clubs. Is Santa Fe the only area that has strip clubs? That place looks real sketchy on YouTube videos. I want to avoid as much sketchy situations as possible.
Also do I trust taxi drivers to bring us to the best places when it comes to these places?
Thank you guys.
[QUOTE=Johnson163;2001502]Hey guys,
I'm looking for some good solid help!
Me and my friend are looking to have a great week in Bogota next month. We like to go to the nightclubs have some drinks then when we are ready hit up the strip clubs to take some women home. What best strip clubs would you guys recommend. We want to be able to have the right line up to choose from the hottest girls to take to our hotel in park 93. Also what times do the strip clubs close? What are the going rates for late night strip clubs to take a girl home. I like to be in the comfort of my own room and do as I please then be in a nasty uncomfortable room. Are all these clubs to get a girl in Santa Fe? For just some reason I don't feel comfortable with a street girl. I rather from an organization like strip club and a better environment.
Never been to Bogota, but have been to Rio where the strip Club's were very welcoming and organized have a few drinks pick what you like and leave. No pressure, air conditioned and simple. Anybody have any comparison between the two countries.
During the day, we like to get massages an actually a real one with happy ending. Then there are times we just want to go in and pick and fuck. What places would you recommend that are good for both.
I hear zona rosa are good for regular night clubs. Is Santa Fe the only area that has strip clubs? That place looks real sketchy on YouTube videos. I want to avoid as much sketchy situations as possible.
Also do I trust taxi drivers to bring us to the best places when it comes to these places?
Thank you guys.[/QUOTE]All the answers are here:
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[QUOTE=Routard;2001517]All the answers are here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=1982221&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1982221.[/QUOTE]Wow amazing detailed review.
Thanks a lot! General is the man! LOL.
[QUOTE=Routard;2001517]All the answers are here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=1982221&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1982221.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know where the infamous map is?
I can't seem to find it on here.
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[QUOTE=Chango69;1971083]New member here, therefore my first posting. Before l begin, l want to thank everyone here for their valuable information, so many of you.
After watching an episode of Narcos with prostitutes (erotic as hell) and stumbling across this site, l decided to take a trip to just check out Bog and Mde.
I am East Indian in my 40's living in Estados Unidos, avid traveler and never done anything like this ever. Flew to Bog got a hotel near the national museum and made my way to the zona tolerancia the first night.
I was nervous at first after the bad rep it has from many posters here, but l decided to go anyways. And boy was l glad. The key is to get a drink be patient and you would always find your type. I have never had such an amazing time. My favs were Troyas, Fiebre and Paisas. I was there everyday for 3 nights and decided to try the ones in Zona Rosa. I had no problem hanging out in Zona Tolerancia even around midnight. People were friendly and very helpful...[/QUOTE]Hi Chango69,
Can you give details on the hotel you stayed at in Bogota and the websites you used?
I'm staying in the north and was only about 4 blocks from the mezzanine girls. (see the big report) 100,000 (about 40 $USD) for full sex. First time I went with Lina. Short light skinned colombian that gave me almost a full GFE experience. Wow, I thought. I will try that again with another girl. Not GFE. But still OK.
Just a tip about the places. Basically, the rooms are the size of a large walk with a tiny hard single massage table is. Tiny Bathroom. The places are clean however and when you walk up the stairs to the 2nd floor, the places are at the back. They have some kind of sensor because when you approach, all the doors open and beautiful girls all try and wave you in.
Today I went to Chaperino and found a "massage" place that was OK, $150,000 but so so. I also went to one of the day brothels "Chicas 2000" and had a session with a beautiful chica with large natural breasts, but very mechanical. $50,000 At least I've tried it. Much prefer FKK or flat rate brothels in Germany from a viewing pov.
Tonight I went to a couple of the strip club / brothels in the north. Lido was the last place. Very nice. Lots of space. Like a big strip club in the US, but I got there at 9 PM and the club was just opened.
Talked with a beautiful 21 year old (in English which was a plus) that wanted me to buy $20.00 drinks for her and her friend. When we discussed pricing for other things, I calculated I'd be paying somewhere around $300 for time with her plus the house fee. House fee was 150,000 and hers was 50,000.
So I left. Back at the hotel and just ordered in for $280,00 for 75 minutes. I will post after.
Hey Mark,
I'll be there next week staying about where you did. Which other strip clubs did you go to besides Lido up there and got any insight or comparison? $40 US is pretty steep just to chat up and test the goods. Especially for two!
I don't recall reading a girl exit fee on top of house fee? Maybe a vet could shed some light. Unless she had to pay to leave early maybe?
As for the $300 us I assume you were referring to is close to what I've read from some of guys here for drinks, exit fee, and all night girl time for North clubs.
Sorry, waiting for membership to go through taking a while since I had to do mail thing so no PM yet.
Thank you much.
[QUOTE=MarkGarden;2006446]I'm staying in the north and was only about 4 blocks from the mezzanine girls. (see the big report) 100,000 (about 40 $USD) for full sex. First time I went with Lina. Short light skinned colombian that gave me almost a full GFE experience. Wow, I thought. I will try that again with another girl. Not GFE. But still OK.
Just a tip about the places. Basically, the rooms are the size of a large walk with a tiny hard single massage table is. Tiny Bathroom. The places are clean however and when you walk up the stairs to the 2nd floor, the places are at the back. They have some kind of sensor because when you approach, all the doors open and beautiful girls all try and wave you in.
Today I went to Chaperino and found a "massage" place that was OK, $150,000 but so so. I also went to one of the day brothels "Chicas 2000" and had a session with a beautiful chica with large natural breasts, but very mechanical. $50,000 At least I've tried it. Much prefer FKK or flat rate brothels in Germany from a viewing pov.[/QUOTE]
I went to the one around the corner on the main street (Lido's was back one block). I suspect they are owned by the same guy. Girls were very pretty and well dressed but too expensive. She quoted me 200,000 for just a private dance and 700,000 for sex - (can't remember if that included the room fee) but I worked it out to be $300 total. If Money hadn't been a concern I might have gone for it. But still there's lots of cheaper options. I ordered in from a service and it cost $280,000 - and the front desk clerk brought the girl to my room!
[QUOTE=Kooper;2007834]Hey Mark,
I'll be there next week staying about where you did. Which other strip clubs did you go to besides Lido up there and got any insight or comparison? $40 US is pretty steep just to chat up and test the goods. Especially for two!
I don't recall reading a girl exit fee on top of house fee? Maybe a vet could shed some light. Unless she had to pay to leave early maybe?
As for the $300 us I assume you were referring to is close to what I've read from some of guys here for drinks, exit fee, and all night girl time for North clubs.
Sorry, waiting for membership to go through taking a while since I had to do mail thing so no PM yet.
Thank you much.[/QUOTE]
Viviana is the new owner of Monasterio. Monasterio will now open every day as follow:
Monday breakfast gang bang with single girls available 8 am 1 pm 70 000 for single men, 40 000 for couples.
Tuesday tantric for couples only (massage, candles, etc). 60 000 for couples.
Wednesday 2 pm 9 pm mixed with single girls available 70 000 for single men, couples gratis.
Thursday 5 pm 1 am mixed with single girls available 80 000 for single men, 60 000 for couples.
Friday 8 pm 3 am couples only 80 000.
Saturday 8 pm 3 am couples only 80 000.
Swing events in Normandia on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday will go on but under another management. My personal opinion is that Normandia is not worth anymore, Viviana has the network with the single swing girls and swing couples. It's great news, as Monasterio has way better facilities than Normandia.
The next inverse gangbang (10 single girls gang banging you alone) is planned on 16th of March from 4 pm till 10 pm, ofcourse in Monasterio now (Carrera 14 A#83-44). Prior reservation is needed on Whatsapp 3213637536 or twitter [URL]https://twitter.com/vivianasanta18[/URL].
[QUOTE=MarkGarden;2008119]I went to the one around the corner on the main street (Lido's was back one block). I suspect they are owned by the same guy. Girls were very pretty and well dressed but too expensive. She quoted me 200,000 for just a private dance and 700,000 for sex - (can't remember if that included the room fee) but I worked it out to be $300 total. If Money hadn't been a concern I might have gone for it. But still there's lots of cheaper options. I ordered in from a service and it cost $280,000 - and the front desk clerk brought the girl to my room![/QUOTE]People go to these high end clubs to establish contacts with the girls they desired and meet outside afterwards to avoid the high cost. At least, that was what I did. In the club, the girls are required to charge you the preset prices. Or you can wait till closing, then the girls can leave with you and charge their own prices. It seemed to me that those clubs I went didn't care either way. In fact, they don't even require you to buy lady drink. When I was in these clubs, I only buy drinks for the girls when I felt some connection with the girls. I felt very confortable in these clubs. But other than in Lido, there were very few clients in these clubs during the week. Of course, my experience was limited to the few I went to in the North. Planning another trip in 3 weeks. Will find out more.
I'm having such a great time in Bogota that I've decided to waste my return ticket home from Medellin and stay here only. I've been going to MDE for 5 years now. Couple times a year. The convenience and selection and variety in looks of women to choose from here in BOG blows MDE out of water. I've had tiny paisas from Medellin, curvy with huge tits and ass from Venezuela, models from Armenia, blondes from Bucaramanga, and cuties from Cali. It's a smorgousboard here.
Best of all all, the mongering is 10 min walk from hotel. No taxis and no traffic. Love it.
Girls are 40 K in the little casas on street and 60 K in clubs. That's $13/$20 for models. La Isla and Fase Dos Quality in Medellin. Action is from 10 am-2 am. Most of the girls visit from their hometowns for 1 week to 3 months then return home.
Now the 3 negatives.
1. Haven't been able to get BBJ yet but didn't try to upsell.
2. Red light district not for faint of heart. Its a 3 block radius. If you don't mind Medellin el centros worst streets, not the good ones, then you'll be fine. But clubs and Atunes are nice inside.
3. It's a short time culture here. Everything is 15-20 min. When you get in the room, get to business. Clock is ticking. I don't like it either but for the price I ain't bitching.
You can pay double for double the time or pay to take home the girls to your hotel. But with so much selection and beauty, and the price, I have not had the desire.
For hotel I stayed in Hotel San Francisco in El centro.
$45/ night on [URL]Booking.com[/URL]. Walking distance to Santa Fe.
Don't waste any time mongering in any other location other.
Than Santa Fe. North Bogota: Zona Rosa and Parque 93 very nice with good restaurants and beautiful people but 45 minutes from Santa Fe with traffic and expensive girls. They are just as hot in Santa Fe at 1/4 price. Historic Distiric called La Candaleria very nice for a daytime stroll and lunch. European feel.
Daytime girls: Atunes 1 pm-6 pm. 60 K for chicas. (Small Heineken sign above entrance). Also little houses on streets in Santa Fe. 40 K. 10 am-1 am.
Night time faves. Little houses on streets in Santa Fe again.
Paisa Club, Fiebres, Troya.
Thanks for the comparison. I have done plenty MDE and Cali but have yet to hit Bogota. I have been looking for a break down like this. So is this wide variety of girls you got from casas and clubs alone?
You said you can pay for the girls to leave the casa. Have you tried just exchanging numbers with the girls and hooking up later? In MDE this is like the easiest thing to do. I have yet to have a casa girl say no or a casa seem too interested in preventing it. That said is the hotel you mentioned girl friendly? What about other hotels in the area?
Thanks for letting me play 20 questions.
[QUOTE=Cessna2100;2009403]I'm having such a great time in Bogota that I've decided to waste my return ticket home from Medellin and stay here only. I've been going to MDE for 5 years now. Couple times a year. The convenience and selection and variety in looks of women to choose from here in BOG blows MDE out of water. I've had tiny paisas from Medellin, curvy with huge tits and ass from Venezuela, models from Armenia, blondes from Bucaramanga, and cuties from Cali. It's a smorgousboard here.
Best of all all, the mongering is 10 min walk from hotel. No taxis and no traffic. Love it.
Girls are 40 K in the little casas on street and 60 K in clubs. That's $13/$20 for models. La Isla and Fase Dos Quality in Medellin. Action is from 10 am-2 am. Most of the girls visit from their hometowns for 1 week to 3 months then return home...[/QUOTE]
Been to Cartagena before, but I imagine Bogota is a big different. Been to Costa Rica before (San Jose) and mongered there. Looking for any and all helpful advice and if anyone would be interested in hitting the town. I'm American, but don't hold that against me. Haha.
I too am traveling to Bogota for business in a few months.
I read through over a hundred pages here in the last couple of days, I wish I found this site years ago.
Thank you very much for all the info you guys provide including travelers and locals.
I am taking the advice and started to learn Spanish and joined a local group that helps beginners, also signed up for Salsa lessons.
I believe I can pick up a lot of vocabulary in the short period of time and speak short sentences to explain what I want and get around as a tourist.
What I fear is I won't be able to understand when people speak in Spanish. Always seems so fast and I have been told Colombian Spanish is a little clearer.
I just don't want to be a goof or worse offend anyone and they ask me to leave places.
Sorry to go on so long.
Basically I wanted to go a Strip Club like Pussy House have a drink, hopefully talk to a pretty lady in broken Spanish, dance some salsa.
I read you can just get private dances but, nothing extra vs the room rate.
I am easy going, always polite and respectful, I am funny in English and don't mind being laughed at. (I prefer laughing together, jajaja).
I have little game in English so I know in Spanish it will be zero.
I am guessing I can't have my phone out with google translate app running to help me.
Now assuming the strip club goes well I would try a day casa (would that be even tougher?
[QUOTE=MamalaPenga;2010781]Been to Cartagena before, but I imagine Bogota is a big different. Been to Costa Rica before (San Jose) and mongered there. Looking for any and all helpful advice and if anyone would be interested in hitting the town. I'm American, but don't hold that against me. Haha.[/QUOTE]
If you plan is to go to Pussy House to dance salsa with the girls, you will be up for a big surprise and potential dissapointing. Young girls are much more into Reggaton than salsa, most of the music the play at the second floor (where you can dance with the girls) is reggaton, if you do not know what that music is, look it up (popular artists are Daddy Yankee, Maluma, Nicky Jam and J Balvin. Many others), Dancing Regatton is not that difficult, usually the girls do most of the dancing. If you want to dance salsa, tip the DJ and ask him to play some salsa, is what I had to do a few times.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2011435]I too am traveling to Bogota for business in a few months.
I read through over a hundred pages here in the last couple of days, I wish I found this site years ago.
Thank you very much for all the info you guys provide including travelers and locals.
I am taking the advice and started to learn Spanish and joined a local group that helps beginners, also signed up for Salsa lessons.
I believe I can pick up a lot of vocabulary in the short period of time and speak short sentences to explain what I want and get around as a tourist.
What I fear is I won't be able to understand when people speak in Spanish. Always seems so fast and I have been told Colombian Spanish is a little clearer.
I just don't want to be a goof or worse offend anyone and they ask me to leave places.
Sorry to go on so long.
Basically I wanted to go a Strip Club like Pussy House have a drink, hopefully talk to a pretty lady in broken Spanish, dance some salsa.
I read you can just get private dances but, nothing extra vs the room rate.
I am easy going, always polite and respectful, I am funny in English and don't mind being laughed at. (I prefer laughing together, jajaja).
I have little game in English so I know in Spanish it will be zero.
I am guessing I can't have my phone out with google translate app running to help me.
Now assuming the strip club goes well I would try a day casa (would that be even tougher?[/QUOTE].
Look up piropos translations. It will give you some game. Stuff you would never say as a pick up line in English. They range from crude to respectful. Pick a few which suit your level. Yeah, you will be talking to a pro. But they appreciate and will react to the effort no matter how clumsy you are.
Don't limit yourself to dine out locations. There are plenty of solid opportunities for dine in experiences at your hotel. YMMV. Plenty of options here, but you can't go wrong with some of the well screened options from higher end agencies niisha / solitasparati have indication if they speak English.
If you have iPhone / iPad check out sexy Spanish. Fun to teach / learn a few phrases with a passionate teacher at your side (or above / below as you prefer).
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2011435]I believe I can pick up a lot of vocabulary in the short period of time and speak short sentences to explain what I want and get around as a tourist.
What I fear is I won't be able to understand when people speak in Spanish. Always seems so fast and I have been told Colombian Spanish is a little clearer.
[/QUOTE]
Similar thread on MDE forum. Looking for Bogota specific answer to my question. And there are of course people who visit one but not the other location.
Question: What are the best love hotels? I am looking for something upper end (with respect to the category) with jacuzzi and any other special features. I found a review site a few years ago but can no longer locate it. There appeared to be far more of these establishments then I've ever seen in person. Some $$$ in Bogota which don't seem connected to what you get for the COP. Chapinero or Parc93 area.
Tips.
I will preface that neither of these are paid placements and I receive no benefit from any of the things mentioned. If you are going for a short time quick visit (to the country or for the hobby), skip these tips.
1. Culture Smart: Colombia. This is a series of books for about 50 countries which gives insight into unique cultural aspects of the country & the Colombia book is no exception. I recommend these for any type of travel (business, pleasure, combo) where you're staying more than just a few days and want to understand where you are visiting rather than just seeing it. I've often shared what I've read in these books with people I'm visiting and often get the response "I've never looked at xxxxx in my culture that way, but that is completely accurate and very insightful".
2. If you have intermediate or better Spanish, learn a few piropos. They will serve you well with semi-pro / non-pro. Google will show you plenty of examples with translations. And creating your own will work too. They're significantly different from pickup lines you may be used to.
3. My best tip. Chaturbate ('chatur' in Colombia). This has become incredibly popular in Colombia -- probably well over 10.000 users with a few hundred online at any given time. There is a particular concentration of users in MDE, BOG & CLO. You'll find Colombians of all ages, types. SP / NP / neither. Most, but not all, are there for 'necesidad economica' and are broadcasting from a studio (which takes 50% of their earnings). You will find varying levels of English fluency. It will help if you have some yourself and / or use a translator. You'll also want to register and buy some tokens. In private, you can speed date and get to know them. If you tell many of them that you'll be visiting, they may volunteer to show you their city before you can even ask. If they don't volunteer, just tell them a few things you are interested in seeing. You'll be able to get whatsapp or twitter but you need to be very discrete about it as it is often prohibited by the studio and they can be monitored. Cam2 cam can be beneficial from multiple perspectives. There are a lot of benefits to this vs CC or anuncios or twitter.
Want to hear your feedback on these. And your best tips.
Thank you Toreador.
Sorry to clarify I don't care which music. I actually prefer Reggaton, I didn't know it was called that.
Awesome, that is even better I just signed up for salsa but, I suck at any dancing, I will switch to Reggaton.
I just meant I worried about my Spanish.
I will try to learn as much as I can but, I don't think I will be able to understand much of what is being said.
I am sure I can string together a few short sentences. I don't want to be rude and ask them to repeat everything slowly or pull out google translate even if allow in the club.
I was hoping if I was polite, respectful and tried to get along in broken Spanish they might find it cute.
My plan was to ease into the scene. I figured if I buy a couple of drinks and try to speak to a lady and then dance a bit upstairs and then a private dance or more.
Then maybe would try a day casa and / or outcall if all goes well.
[QUOTE=Toreador;2011745]If you plan is to go to Pussy House to dance salsa with the girls, you will be up for a big surprise and potential dissapointing. Young girls are much more into Reggaton than salsa, most of the music the play at the second floor (where you can dance with the girls) is reggaton, if you do not know what that music is, look it up (popular artists are Daddy Yankee, Maluma, Nicky Jam and J Balvin. Many others), Dancing Regatton is not that difficult, usually the girls do most of the dancing. If you want to dance salsa, tip the DJ and ask him to play some salsa, is what I had to do a few times..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Toreador;2011745]If you plan is to go to Pussy House to dance salsa with the girls, you will be up for a big surprise and potential dissapointing. Young girls are much more into Reggaton than salsa, most of the music the play at the second floor (where you can dance with the girls) is reggaton, if you do not know what that music is, look it up (popular artists are Daddy Yankee, Maluma, Nicky Jam and J Balvin. Many others), Dancing Regatton is not that difficult, usually the girls do most of the dancing. If you want to dance salsa, tip the DJ and ask him to play some salsa, is what I had to do a few times.
.[/QUOTE]I'm thinking of hitting Bogota in July. First trip. Is pussy house a brothel? Take out or do them in house? In santa fe? Also what hotel do you normally use? Thanks!
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2011884]I'm thinking of hitting Bogota in July. First trip. Is pussy house a brothel? Take out or do them in house? In santa fe? Also what hotel do you normally use? Thanks![/QUOTE]It's a strip club / disco / brothel with rooms on site, located in Chapinero. Take out is also available.
I prefer to stay farther north around Zona Rosa, Parque Virrey or Parque 93. Hotels tend to get pricier the further north you go. Just a block west of Pussy House are a bunch of love motels. Prices around $20 for 4 hours.
[QUOTE=Toreador;2011745]If you plan is to go to Pussy House to dance salsa with the girls, you will be up for a big surprise and potential dissapointing. Young girls are much more into Reggaton than salsa, most of the music the play at the second floor (where you can dance with the girls) is reggaton, if you do not know what that music is, look it up (popular artists are Daddy Yankee, Maluma, Nicky Jam and J Balvin. Many others), Dancing Regatton is not that difficult, usually the girls do most of the dancing. If you want to dance salsa, tip the DJ and ask him to play some salsa, is what I had to do a few times.
.[/QUOTE]If that is the case with Pussy House, where would be a good place to find chicas to dance salsa with for a lone visitor? Working or not. I found not too many working chicas are good in dancing salsa. The regular girl or semi working chicas are better with salsa dancing. I guess when you are struggling, you just don't have the desire and means to learn and dance Salsa.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2011885]It's a strip club / disco / brothel with rooms on site, located in Chapinero. Take out is also available.
I prefer to stay farther north around Zona Rosa, Parque Virrey or Parque 93. Hotels tend to get pricier the further north you go. Just a block west of Pussy House are a bunch of love motels. Prices around $20 for 4 hours.[/QUOTE]Cool! Thanks for the reponse. I plan on staying at the B3 vierry hotel in Chapeniero. This will be my first Bogota trip. Any other Chapeniero suggestions would be appreciated. I guess I'll make it to santa fe at some point
[QUOTE=BrotherP;2012046]Cool! Thanks for the reponse. I plan on staying at the B3 vierry hotel in Chapeniero. This will be my first Bogota trip. Any other Chapeniero suggestions would be appreciated. I guess I'll make it to santa fe at some point[/QUOTE]I can't personally recommend any of these places, but there are 3 massage parlors all owned by the same company that is also an escort agency. Via Spa and Colorin Spa are close to your hotel in Zona Rosa and Sex on the Way is in Chapinero. Prices run from 80 k to 170 k. They look promising, but I don't know if I'll have the time to check them out. The combined website is.
[URL]Http://serviciosprepagos.com[/URL]
First, thanks to you fellas who have provided the map and info about all the places and in and outs (World, Routard, and couple of the other guys). Without that information there is no way I could have explored as easily as I did for my first trip down there recently. I hope this helps anyone else who is first time in Bogota or a complete newbie like me who went for first time ever in Colombia.
Arrival. Arrived in the evening to El Dorado. Spoke to a great Colombian gal who lives in the USA The entire plane trip who was as sweet as could be. It was a great start. She was helpful and also said I was crazy. I'm not fluent in Spanish but can communicate in elementary terms for the most part as needed and would think someone coming here alone would want some basic Spanish as others said to make the trip more enjoyable (if staying for more than 2 or 3 nights). It sucked as for some reason we had to walk downstairs out of the plane and hop on buses to customs. This wasn't the norm the girl said. Follow sign says "Extranjero" for Foreigners (since there was a Colombian guy who actually mistakenly came in our line and you want to try to get to the front). Then, waited a solid full hour in line before getting to the customs person. I got some girl who just smiled and stamped and went on my way past her and to the right.
Money Exchange. I followed the signs and at the baggage claim there was a currency exchange to the right since I needed pesos since had none. Rate 2700 when I asked. It was the only one I saw there at baggage claim. I figured there had to be another one so once you walk past the baggage claim you then go through the final "customs" inspection where you hand the customs person your form and then put your luggage in the machine for your final brief inspection.
Right after this area in front of you are two other exchange places. I asked the first one on the left the rate and the girl quoted me 2200 pesos. I then went to the one 10 feet away in his small window and he said 2700 pesos. I then exchanged money with him and double checked on my currency converter and went walked out the exit.
Taxi. Here, I saw the Taxi sign if you look up and walk out the sliding doors. Immediately walking out was a guy dressed in a suit of course so he would look all official asking if I needed a Taxi along with a few other guys who I all said no to. I look to the left and to the right and see the stand that says "Taxi" with a line of 15 people to the right with all the Yellow taxis pulling in and a guy assisting people. After waiting in line I hopped in my taxi and handed the guy my directions and hopped on Google Maps to make sure he was going the correct way and did. I didn't really do research on cost prior and overpaid of course but was dead tired by this time as it was 12 am.
Location. It was a 20 minute ride right around Parque Virrey as I stayed in a place I found Airbnb walking distance to the clubs. I checked with my contact if guests were allowed and was told they were. There was security guy at front 24 hours a day and had no problems with girls the entire time coming to my room.
Altitude. This was noticeable the first morning I woke up and had a headache all day. It didn't hit me or cross my mind although I read it here but it was an obvious case of mild altitude sickness. I had a headache and very little appetite. I grabbed some Advil at the store and it worked fine and the symptoms disappeared. I was still a bit off the entire trip especially if I didn't keep some food in my stomach but after that second night felt better and made sure to pop in an Advil.
ATM. I setup with my bank WF beforehand online my travel plans so was hoping to have no issues. I went first to BancoColombia. You put in your debit card the same way as anywhere else you've used an ATM then you have the Option to choose your language. Follow the prompts. BancoColombia I tried twice but would not process my transaction. I then looked for the nearest Citibank and found one right by Parque93. Here you follow the same steps, I pressed English, and then you choose your amount. I pressed "other amount" and selected 800 cop. Transaction processed with no issues. I then proceeded to do the process again and take out another round of pesos. I came back on a Sunday and for some reason WF debit wasn't working so figured I'd try my CC (Cap One). The only difference with the credit card is it gave me options to take the money in pesos or dollars which you will see on the screen on the left and right respectively. I chose pesos and it saved me money when I checked once I came back home.
Uber. I used Uber once late from a Club and it was easy as could be. I then used it for my taxi ride back to the airport. I just used the same app I have on my phone I use here at home and the guy was outside the apartment within 8 minutes for the ride to the airport. It will tell you the pesos paid which was $15 us I think for uber black for the highest option, or maybe a little less.
Walking. Since my first trip, I strictly stayed in the North to make it easy on myself. I knew I'd pay way more but would bite the bullet. It was easy walking everywhere to all the North clubs every night I was there. During the day time, tons of places everywhere shop, eat, drink and walking around easy as well.
Supplies to Stock up. If your hotel or place has a fridge, check out for a Carulla is what I did on google maps if one was close and got some food, Gatorade, water, juice and you can buy liquor or beer there as well. Maybe vets no better options but that worked for me. I just paid in cash. The cashier asked me for phone number or something I guess like a perk program and just said no.
Overall. Everyone was nice I came across with my limited Spanish and I managed to help me as needed with no issues. I didn't explore lots of local eateries and the like as my appetite was nonexistent. So didn't get to venture out as much as I would have liked but will on another trip unless I try Medellin instead. I'll shoot the juicy stuff next post.
So, I had decided I was going to strictly pay more and keep to the walking distance from where I stayed around Parque el Virrey for my first trip ever here. I knew since staying up North it would all be way more expensive than Chapinero and of course Santa Fe. Still, I really prefer coming back to my own place and relaxing there instead of sessions in clubs / casas. I took the addresses provided by the guys here for the strip clubs in addition to research of possible girls to see at my place for quickies and potential numbers. My first night I arrived late and of course now realize it was probably more the altitude sickness that made me feel completely out of it that I crashed to sleep once arriving and didn't head out as it was only 12:30 am about and I had hoped to get a first night recon mission in at least. The ins and outs of a first trip and figuring it all out.
AGENCY. Since I was not feeling great my first full day, I decided to try out Solitasparati as it was mentioned here frequently as a reliable agency. As discussed here, it was all that. I recommend going to their twitter website because they update who is available throughout the day. Easy as can be. Basically, you just need to put in their whatsapp number and text you'd like to see if a girl you like is available and if not who else is available. If there are many available, they will text back what your type is or a specific girl to get an idea of type. After that, a list will be texted to you of what girls are available similar to your request. Next, I browsed the girls profiles and in some cases you can find their video on their twitter account to get a better feel for their looks and then text who you would like to see. They will confirm your name, address, and then how long. Within about 1 hour, the girl will arrive. I also texted since I could use google translate so there were less communication issues and I got what I wanted.
I basically did this routine for my first day, second day, and third day for my daytime action with three different girls. They start having girls available around 9-10 ish but I scheduled right after lunch each time for a nice day starter for an hour. Prices were 160-220 cop for the hour with incremental discounts if booking two hours.
The girls selected. Each girl who showed was the girl I chose. Matched pics or video. Two were great GFE fun. One local and one from MDE. I found the MDE girl much sweeter and cooler all around, but both were great. The third girl was less GFE and more businesslike and boring. She probably had the best body of three though so I can't complain for the hour. Plus, she still was accommodating and had no complaints.
Overall, I liked the convenience and simplicity so stuck with one agency for first trip. I could easily relax and get over my previous nights hangover in my shorts and shirt and have a good looking girl come over for a nice time. I would have tried a massage parlor or two but the sickness as mentioned above I wanted to rest the body for my night party walking instead. Next time, I will try a different agency or two I'm sure and follow some of this routine.
Indy. I connected with one Indy on twitter but she wasn't my first choice. No others were available but I wanted to try an Indy. The best part is pricing was basically two hours for the price of one at the agency. However, the girls pictures I thought were better than in person. Still good looking, but I would have rather just grabbed another solitas girl instead afterwards. Service wasn't anything exceptionally better either than the other three. I'd try a few other Indys though as some of their pics / videos look pretty darn good next trip if I can connect with one.
Two nights I did the club rounds in the North. I would have preferred my other two nights but the sick issues caused problems my first night and my last night I had an early flight and was pretty spent from all the drinking, girls, and fun.
Juan Pablo. My first night out this was my first stop. Plus, it was basically a 10 minute walk. Plus, I liked the idea of the casual vibe to get my feet wet at my first strip club experience here. I had a good idea where to walk and found it easily especially with the google maps street view provided by world and my own searching before coming. Escorted in and they were going to take me to couches where girls were but I said I would take the bar since I wanted to get my bearings. It was me and three other guys and then some other guys in the back rooms who I didn't see. I had a whiskey and checked out the girls. I won't need to mention drink prices as they were typical overpriced strip club prices up here in the North as I expected. $10-$15 US depending on what you got.
There were about 15 girls. After sitting down for a few minutes, each girl proceeded to come up to me and introduce themselves and shake my hand. This way I could get a face and body check along with name check. Had that happen at an MP before and was nice. There is music playing but no girls dancing on a pole, all were sitting down in their respective friend groups talking and giving me the eye as the new prey. Lookswise, there was only one real nice spinner girl I liked and most of the others nothing special. Not for what I was looking for on a first night. To me, she was about 8 and others all ranging 4-7 out of 10. I finished my drink and decided I would try Lalo's next since it was the closest and wanted to scope it out.
Lalos. A short 10 minute walk and I had a good idea where this was at from google street view searching as well along with addresses provided by guys here. I stored all these places in my phone so could easily check address under my places in google maps. Made it easy. Plus, a guy or two standing outside and I just said Lalos and escorted me in. I initially decided to sit on the couches here. I was handed a drink menu that has the prices of any type of drink or bottles you would want. I just grabbed my first Colombia beer. This place isn't large and no girls dancing on a pole as I know is normal and music playing. I decided to head to the bar to get a better view of the girls. It was now 12 am, and it was me and one other guy. There were about 15 girls here.
Looking around again I found one nice spinner girl again who was a solid 8-9 overall depending on what you like with great body and face. Only one other girl I thought was all that hot with the good curves about 7-9. The rest, nothing exciting and 4-7 range in my opinion. One actually was awfully manly I thought. The spinner girl wouldn't even look at me and the other I wasn't really checking her out. I decided after my beer that was enough as I wanted more options so decided I would try Lido next.
Helper. I headed out of Lalo's and starting head North since I knew Lidos off of the same Carerra and made it a block or so when one of the club recruit guys caught me. He said you want go Lido's and I said that's where I'm heading. I knew it was a good 20 minute walk and he was basically my wingman for the walk and I didn't need to pay attention too much since he took me right to the front door. I gave him some pesos for his company and efforts and he got me settled in Lidos entrance and let me be.
Lidos. All I can say is WOW. Now we're talking is what I was thinking upon entering. It was about 1:00 am or so in the morning now. Large place, about 10 times the size of Lalos / Juans. Nice long bar to the left. Nice dance floor. Couches to sit at positioned perfectly. A second story to watch down on the action. But best of all, about 30-50 girls all hanging out in the place. It was great. Almost all were top notch too from 7-10 range of all types. The number of girls there made it easy to find what one could like. My only problem was there were literally so many options that it was difficult to decide. Plus, I was soaking up all the wonderful atmosphere there. Randomly throughout the night a girl or two would do a striptease as well. Some people would dance usually with girl there. This was all on a Friday night too. FYI. I talked to one girl and had a drink who I liked and doing all the flirty stuff. I eventually got a quote and it was 700 cop. I proceeded to move around the room to another location. Ha! I was milking my overpriced drink which with my sickness and altitude I was basically a loosening up anyway easily now. I kept trying to make a decision and finally settled on a girl I had been watching who was close to me. I grabbed her and we sat down at one of the couches. It was loud in here to we moved to couches a bit further behind by bathrooms and could talk some over a drink. I agreed on short time of about 3 hours so I could crash for the night afterwards alone.
You head over to the end of the bar where guy writes up take out fee and pay the man the 150 cop. We grabbed a taxi back. So, this was my first longer stint and only second girl here being my first night. Basically, she was not all as good as she was putting on. She was willing to please, but then wanted to leave and head out for her next stop for the night. It is what happens on occasion when doing the take out before testing the goods. I usually try to screen better, but they put on a good show sometimes. I wasn't happy or satisfied, so she went on her way after about an hour. One note, she worked at one of the Santa Fe clubs which I'm sure she spends days at before making her way up North for her prey. Ha!
So, not fully exhausted and a bit renergized after a quickie I decided to head back to Lidos. It was around 3 am now or so. Still, the place was packed with plenty of girls and people and a complete party atmosphere. I was a bit drunk now as I had another drink at my place with the previous girl but enough of my wits about me to be safe. I watched for a bit until a little bit and what I thought was one of hotter girls arrived. I decided give her a go with the expected starfish treatment to complete my first night with a solid 10 with the fake rack, nice tight round butt, and sexy face. I paid the house fee and negotiated all night until like 8 am for 500 cop (so basically 100 cop an hour about). Well, I was wrong. This girl was a blast. All the GFE treatment the entire time. We both crashed to sleep and of course almost time to go and another morning round of fun. Great time and got her number.
Night one capped off and good times.
Kooper,
Excellent reports and detail, thank you.
A buddy and I are thinking about heading to Bogota in the next few weeks and your recent and up to date info is great.
Can you provide the names of the solitasparati girls you saw and maybe a little more detail about each girl and encounter as well as the lidos girls so we can get an idea.
My buddy and I are looking for all natural college co-ed spinner types, beautiful faces, slender and fresh, not the hard looking pros with silicon.
And did you stay in a hotel or an airbnb? Also what address do you have for lidos?
Thanks!
My second night to head out got started around 11 pm as I figured it was time to check out some of the other North clubs on the list and see what they're all about. Plus, it was a nice walk through Parque Virrey to see how things were on that end at night. I made way to Carerra 15 and began heading South. I got to the cross section of where Piscina Norte was and I'm spotted by my Helper friend from the previous night. I told him I was on my way to check out Piscina North and he said do VIP next door first as my fee to leave be a bit cheaper. I'm game.
I head in to VIP which is literally right next door. Small little narrow place with a bar. I have a seat at the bar and have a beer after they hand me the menu and I selected I believe. There were about 15-20 girls in here and a few were pretty darn hot. I wasn't expecting that many girls and at least five or more I would have taken out. They were playing music and some girls dancing on the mini dance floor. It was a cool little place. Of course, it was just me at this time but then a group of two guys walked in and stayed for about 15 minutes before leaving. I almost was going to sit with a girl or two but wanted to check out the other places so finished my beer and left with the intention of coming back.
My Helper / guide man was waiting for me in the bar. They don't bother you in the bar, they let you do your thing and will wait to see if you're going to get a girl or not. We went next door to Piscina Norte and this was a nice looking place inside. It was me and three other friends sitting together. I said down on the couch and all 15 of the girls came up and waiting for me to pick one. I wasn't biting and decided to grab a beer and watch one or two. Which, that was all that was worth watching. One, two at the most. It was much worse than VIP in there. One of the girls said it would pick up later after 2 am so maybe some better looking girls would filter in, I don't know. After contemplating grabbing the one solid 8 I finished my drink and was going to head back next door or closer to my place. My helper man then said to go to Whiskeria.
La Whiskeria was a short 5 minute walk around the corner. You walk in, go up some stairs real quick and it's a little bar with some small seating with a couch or two. I take a seat on the couch for a beer and out comes all 5 of the girls. And bam, there were at least two exactly what I was looking for. The waiter says who you want and I said one of those two so he calls them both over to have a seat. We talk, mingle, and have one drink and I negotiate all night for both to cap off my final night doing the club thing for a nice little threesome. Both great and mostly GFE because they were business too because they left exactly at agreed time and I was figuring there would be no hurry in the morning. But, the dirty deed time I couldn't be happier.
So, overall the strip club scene provided lots of options to browse through easily. I'm sure as the night went one more girls would show since it was only about 1:30 am when I got back to my place. My overall thoughts of strip clubs as it relates to the North and in general here.
Pros:
1) I enjoyed the ability to walk comfortably from place to place, it was convenient. I just wish Lido was closer because that was by far the best of the bunch in my opinion for what it provided.
2) It's a nice area around there and weekend definitely was busier.
3) Adding up all the clubs in the area it shouldn't be hard to find your type for paying a take out and negotiating short or all night.
4) Lidos I would think because it's large could easily be used strictly to get numbers and meet after club closes or another day. Its pretty easy based on the set up and people I would gather. Also, Lidos setup would be great if I had a wingman because you can grab a bottle and split the cost and just check out the girls and pick one or two sit down and see what's up.
5) It's easy. Walk-in. Have one drink. Call a girl over. Negotiate short or long time. Pay take out house fee. Walk to your place. Enjoy.
6) You can probably do lots of number gathering like others have said overall if have a longer stay for when they get off. I might be better doing short time one girl then another girl meet up after she gets off from another club. Will see next time.
7) The Helper guys seem to be good for first timer to find out where is what if that helps you. I tipped him some pesos for his help and he even walked me and the girls half way back to my place.
Cons:
1) The obvious, the cost for drinks is ridiculous and rivals typical strip club cost I incur back home.
2) Cost for the girls of what the asked could be quite high to start, but I noticed all were willing to negotiate down. As always, getting a rhythm down will be easier the second time around I get back here.
3) I really hate that girls are not dancing at some of the places. Also, some don't understand you need to at least fake walk around like you need to get something so I can check you out again besides the intro walk and show. I may have called a girl or two over if I new the rest was as pretty as their face. That's what made Lidos so great. The lighting was good in there, almost too bright as I wished it got a little darker at dance floor area. But with the set up and large place girls were basically standing or walking around so it was easy to check out the talent.
4) The usual you don't know what you get until after you get back to your place. Still, every girl was willing to please overall and I couldn't complain.
5) Some of girls are strictly hard core it was obvious and straight business. It may take a little time weeding through to find the sweet and cool chick that you click with. But then again, sometimes that is just the case anywhere I've been. But I do wonder if somewhere like MDE the girls overall would have less of that feeling in the overall numbers.
I had a nice time, but missed having someone else to hang with to enjoy the scenery and banter with. It makes it better and you can figure out what girls will probably be a good time when they're hanging together with you and a friend. Still, next time I know some of the ropes now and how to approach it all and where to go. I definitely want to head further south to Pussy House next time and La to check out what those are like.
Thanks to all who assisted with the maps, reports, and breakdown of the locations (Routard and World especially). Hope this helps someone out there.
With Semana Santa being right around the corner, do any of you vets see the weekend of April 22 being a problem with a low volume of chicas? Or would that possibly make it busier than normal being that they will take the prior week off?
The names I don't remember exactly to be honest, plus, any given day there is a mix of different girls who could be working based on their fairly large size lineup. I like more the slender girls with cute face and not enhanced for the most part just like you guys. Each girl I saw was that way. To me, 2 of the 3 I saw I felt were like girl-next-door types who were just simple and easy to hang with. The MDE girl by far the best and sweetest. I would have grabbed 2 of the 3 numbers for later meetups had I stayed there longer and they were not "pros". None were smoking 9-10, but just solid and easy fun for an hour and tight bodies. The girl with that was less into it had the hardest body but wasn't into the DFK and more there. The other two the MDE girl DFK and easy going with what I wanted and the other girl less into DFK but ok with what I wanted. I can't vouch for BBBJ as I'm not into that or need that as some guys do. I prefer to see the ass one way or another which was no problem with all of them and accommodating. Multiple shots no problem with 2 of the 3 although the one girl probably would have obliged if I wanted. Which is great for $80 and no hassle. All had cute or pretty faces, but I know that becomes opinion based. The MDE girl actually had worst face but best performance. First girl best face, slightly lower performance. And third girl 2nd best face and worst performance. Still, none were unattractive by any means and worth the hour or more for the simple day time action.
Still, there is more than one agency and I'm sure a few others provide the same with smoking hot girls and similar pricing. That's for me to try next trip!
As for Lido two girls I saw, one as I wrote was willing to please for the hour but I was just a prey for the night. She still up for DFK, fingering, multiple positions, and I din't get into it enough as she had me turned off for other stuff. The second one was pure GFE of anything and everything with no questions asked. Just pure bliss.
I stayed Airbnb during my trip and not a hotel. I got lucky with a great spot but it has it's limitations with what's available of the little things at the apartment provided (such as towels and cleaning daily). I sense at a hotel I could want more towels, daily maid service, and have some serve breakfast which is great. Next time I'm probably just do a hotel.
Overall, I usually slack at negotiating up front with what I want with a girl besides the time frame since it's usually works out fine since I try to grab someone who I get along with. Overall, I did find all girls were willing to please for the time with them and a great time. Looking forward to coming back again and having less altitude sickness to enjoy the days and adding a day or two longer and now knowing what places I like, where to go, and more exploring to do.
It's a nice different trip for fun. Albeit, in the North, overpriced compared the Santa Fe from what I've read and Chapinero. But still, worked well for me because I like in my own room / place and didn't have tons of time to get numbers for later meet ups.
[QUOTE=PerroChino;2013221]Kooper,
Excellent reports and detail, thank you.
A buddy and I are thinking about heading to Bogota in the next few weeks and your recent and up to date info is great.
Can you provide the names of the solitasparati girls you saw and maybe a little more detail about each girl and encounter as well as the lidos girls so we can get an idea.
My buddy and I are looking for all natural college co-ed spinner types, beautiful faces, slender and fresh, not the hard looking pros with silicon.
And did you stay in a hotel or an airbnb? Also what address do you have for lidos?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
I was going by your assumption that with the prior week off it will hopefully be busier / better since no one worked for the few days and will be ready to get back into the action. I'll be in CR doing the same thing so I certainly hope it's not a problem. As for Bogota, I'm not a vet, but based on what I saw even on a week after a holiday there are so many freakin options and people in the city (because it's populated) there will be no problem finding wonderful looking women to spend time with. Especially since even the "ugliest" of girls in Bog I came across I would still gladly spend time with for an hour or more. The women from what I saw in Bog, are just in general Beautiful in one way or another and lived up to the hype of what Colombia has to offer.
[QUOTE=Packeye;2013971]With Semana Santa being right around the corner, do any of you vets see the weekend of April 22 being a problem with a low volume of chicas? Or would that possibly make it busier than normal being that they will take the prior week off?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Kooper;2013225]My second night to head out got started around 11 pm as I figured it was time to check out some of the other North clubs on the list and see what they're all about. Plus, it was a nice walk through Parque Virrey to see how things were on that end at night. I made way to Carerra 15 and began heading South. I got to the cross section of where Piscina Norte was and I'm spotted by my Helper friend from the previous night. I told him I was on my way to check out Piscina North and he said do VIP next door first as my fee to leave be a bit cheaper. I'm game.
I head in to VIP which is literally right next door. Small little narrow place with a bar. I have a seat at the bar and have a beer after they hand me the menu and I selected I believe. There were about 15-20 girls in here and a few were pretty darn hot. I wasn't expecting that many girls and at least five or more I would have taken out. They were playing music and some girls dancing on the mini dance floor. It was a cool little place. Of course, it was just me at this time but then a group of two guys walked in and stayed for about 15 minutes before leaving. I almost was going to sit with a girl or two but wanted to check out the other places so finished my beer and left with the intention of coming back.
My Helper / guide man was waiting for me in the bar. They don't bother you in the bar, they let you do your thing and will wait to see if you're going to get a girl or not. We went next door to Piscina Norte and this was a nice looking place inside. It was me and three other friends sitting together. I said down on the couch and all 15 of the girls came up and waiting for me to pick one. I wasn't biting and decided to grab a beer and watch one or two. Which, that was all that was worth watching. One, two at the most. It was much worse than VIP in there. One of the girls said it would pick up later after 2 am so maybe some better looking girls would filter in, I don't know. After contemplating grabbing the one solid 8 I finished my drink and was going to head back next door or closer to my place. My helper man then said to go to Whiskeria.
La Whiskeria was a short 5 minute walk around the corner. You walk in, go up some stairs real quick and it's a little bar with some small seating with a couch or two. I take a seat on the couch for a beer and out comes all 5 of the girls. And bam, there were at least two exactly what I was looking for. The waiter says who you want and I said one of those two so he calls them both over to have a seat. We talk, mingle, and have one drink and I negotiate all night for both to cap off my final night doing the club thing for a nice little threesome. Both great and mostly GFE because they were business too because they left exactly at agreed time and I was figuring there would be no hurry in the morning. But, the dirty deed time I couldn't be happier.
So, overall the strip club scene provided lots of options to browse through easily. I'm sure as the night went one more girls would show since it was only about 1:30 am when I got back to my place. My overall thoughts of strip clubs as it relates to the North and in general here.
Pros:
1) I enjoyed the ability to walk comfortably from place to place, it was convenient. I just wish Lido was closer because that was by far the best of the bunch in my opinion for what it provided.
2) It's a nice area around there and weekend definitely was busier.
3) Adding up all the clubs in the area it shouldn't be hard to find your type for paying a take out and negotiating short or all night.
4) Lidos I would think because it's large could easily be used strictly to get numbers and meet after club closes or another day. Its pretty easy based on the set up and people I would gather. Also, Lidos setup would be great if I had a wingman because you can grab a bottle and split the cost and just check out the girls and pick one or two sit down and see what's up.
5) It's easy. Walk-in. Have one drink. Call a girl over. Negotiate short or long time. Pay take out house fee. Walk to your place. Enjoy.
6) You can probably do lots of number gathering like others have said overall if have a longer stay for when they get off. I might be better doing short time one girl then another girl meet up after she gets off from another club. Will see next time.
7) The Helper guys seem to be good for first timer to find out where is what if that helps you. I tipped him some pesos for his help and he even walked me and the girls half way back to my place.
Cons:
1) The obvious, the cost for drinks is ridiculous and rivals typical strip club cost I incur back home.
2) Cost for the girls of what the asked could be quite high to start, but I noticed all were willing to negotiate down. As always, getting a rhythm down will be easier the second time around I get back here.
3) I really hate that girls are not dancing at some of the places. Also, some don't understand you need to at least fake walk around like you need to get something so I can check you out again besides the intro walk and show. I may have called a girl or two over if I new the rest was as pretty as their face. That's what made Lidos so great. The lighting was good in there, almost too bright as I wished it got a little darker at dance floor area. But with the set up and large place girls were basically standing or walking around so it was easy to check out the talent.
4) The usual you don't know what you get until after you get back to your place. Still, every girl was willing to please overall and I couldn't complain.
5) Some of girls are strictly hard core it was obvious and straight business. It may take a little time weeding through to find the sweet and cool chick that you click with. But then again, sometimes that is just the case anywhere I've been. But I do wonder if somewhere like MDE the girls overall would have less of that feeling in the overall numbers.
I had a nice time, but missed having someone else to hang with to enjoy the scenery and banter with. It makes it better and you can figure out what girls will probably be a good time when they're hanging together with you and a friend. Still, next time I know some of the ropes now and how to approach it all and where to go. I definitely want to head further south to Pussy House next time and La to check out what those are like.
Thanks to all who assisted with the maps, reports, and breakdown of the locations (Routard and World especially). Hope this helps someone out there.[/QUOTE]Great trip reports Kooper. Sounds like you figured out how to enjoy Bogota.
Great trip report Kooper. It's very detailed, and anyone can feel how it is to discover Bogota for a firstimer. Good to know for those who have never been before in Colombia that a complete newbie can have great time and get around very easily and safely simply with the information provided on the board.
Hello,
I am going to bogota from april 11-18 and staying in Parque 93 in airbnb attik. Please shed some info. On places to visit during the night for high quality chicas.
Thank you.
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Without a doubt. Can't thank all you guys enough. Made it easier by far. Until next time.
[QUOTE=Routard;2014161]Great trip report Kooper. It's very detailed, and anyone can feel how it is to discover Bogota for a firstimer. Good to know for those who have never been before in Colombia that a complete newbie can have great time and get around very easily and safely simply with the information provided on the board.[/QUOTE]
Bogota, Colombia – Chapinero / Central Area (Feb 12, Sun to Feb 14, Tue).
Report on my couple days in Chapinero Bogota. I would note that I was there for work so only really had Sunday (nothing was open) and Monday afternoon plus night to check it out. I chose Chapinero as a starting point due to its central location and being relatively economical and safe. During the day at least.
Transportation.
Cost is 25 k to 30k from airport to most places in the city. Taxis do not have meters so everything must be negotiated. As in Barranquilla Uber also works pretty well, just be sure to sit in the front seat otherwise your driver will get accosted by taxi drivers and it could turn ugly!
Hotels.
I would look at getting an apartasuite in Chapinero (cheap day action) or El Norte (more expensive, but safer). In Chapinero Alto (strata 5 and strata 6 is highest) I was able to get a place for 150 k / nt that had a small kitchen and nice working area. It also included free breakfast. I'm just not mentioning here because it wasn't girl friendly. Also note that you do not have to pay the 19% VAT in Colombia for hotels as of this year as a foreigner. Just be sure to bring the print out and mention it to them at checkout. I saved 60 k over two nights.
Massage Parlors.
I spent a long time walking around Sunday in Chapinero and nothing was open aside from a bunch of horrible spots with girls I wouldn't touch with any of ya'lls dicks let alone mine. I'm just going to mention the places I think are worthwhile that I went to on Monday.
Chicas Mileno (Calle 71 #14 A-24): I went there at 3 pm on Monday. They had 12 girls that I would rate 5 to 8. 5, cost was 40 k for 30 minutes for room and 60 k for 60 minutes in room. The facilities are nicer than any of the other areas. In the room you negotiate for extras. At least I did as I chose the hottest girl. She was also a college girl (seriously) working for 1-2 months to make money. Beers were 4 k.
Chicas 2000 (directly across street, Calle 71 #14-23): Went around 4 pm on Monday. They had 5 girls of lower quality. Cost was around half of Chicas Melino.
Tantra Spa (Calle 67 # 15-10) .5+ girls. Prices: 25 k 20 min, 35 k 30 min, 70 k hour.
Strip Clubs.
Pussy's House (Calle 61 #13-64): Went 10:00 pm on Monday and it was dead ( 8 girls), but they were attractive and I could see the potential on the weekend. I talked with the staff and they said they have 30-40 girls Thu to Sat. Prices: Cover 5 k on weekend, negotiated, but starts at 80 k 30 min. 10 k Room, 120 k exit fee. Closed Sunday (live everywhere else ha ha).
Las Divas (Calle 61 # 13-79, across street from Pussy's House). Again. Dead when I went on Monday, but staff told me 15-20 Chicas on weekends. Prices: Negotiated, but start at 60 k 30 min.
Note that there are plenty of higher end awesome spots in the north and sketchy ones in the south, I just didn't visit them on this trip.
Non-Pros.
I found the quality in Chapinero to be quite poor, but I've heard the girls are much better looking in the wealthier areas to the north. The few girls I talked to also seemed to be colder and stand offish.
Restaurants.
The better restaurants are to the North around Parque 93 and not in Chapinero. The only place I can recommend in Chapinero Alto is 'Mistral' which was an awesome farm to table sandwich and salad place.
Spent a week in Bogota in an airbnb near Parque 93.
I'm mostly fluent in Spanish which was a must because none of the girls I talked to spoke English.
Couple things to report:
1. Don't expect to go out to the bars and pick up girls. I'm from the USA where I thought it's normal to go to bars and clubs and pick up girls. That's not the case here, I didn't find single girls at bars. And the bars aren't setup for pickup game unless you want to sit down at someone's table to run game. Clubs are loud and packed with people but that's not really my scene. My strategy was find a set of girls on a park bench in Parque 93 or Zona Rosa. Point to a bar nearby and tell them you don't want to go to a bar to drink by yourself and you will buy them some drinks if they join you. Most of the time they will agree. Now you have some girls to chat with at the bar, buy them a round of drinks. Go from there if you like them. If not, you can always pay the bill and go to a different area and try the same thing. This strategy worked for meeting a chica that came with me the following weekend up to the coast to chill at the beach. She didn't ask for money but did want some cheap gifts like souvenir necklaces and a purse. Naturally I paid for everything on the trip.
2. There is a casa next to Thearion cafe Cra. 18 #93-2 a 93-98, Bogotá. It's on the map. It's a nice little bar. Seems sketchy from outside though I was scared to go in at first. Inside is really nice and classy. There are 10-20 girls. In house or take out fee to the bar is 180 k plus your overpriced drinks for you and the girls. Ran me about 250 k. In house is like a private living room area with couches not a bedroom. Did that once wasn't too comfortable. Next time brought the girl back to my airbnb. In house girl was 250 k. Taking girl home was 400 k. When you get there and order a drink then all the girls will introduce themselves. Pick one and buy her a drink. All the girls I talked to wanted to drink whiskey which was a 30 k drink. Didn't feel rushed or hassled. 100% would go again if I'm back in Bogota.
3. Black Uber everywhere its cheap, but they aren't the best at directions.
4. Get a sim card at any store. Load it with credit easily using Recarga app. Everyone uses WhatsApp.
Enjoy.
[QUOTE=Kooper;2012339]Location. It was a 20 minute ride right around Parque Virrey as I stayed in a place I found Airbnb walking distance to the clubs. I checked with my contact if guests were allowed and was told they were. There was security guy at front 24 hours a day and had no problems with girls the entire time coming to my room.[/QUOTE]Hey,
Great reports Kooper! Very useful as I'll be visiting for the first time as well. Which airbnb did you stay at?
[QUOTE=Revolt625;2017714]Hey,
Great reports Kooper! Very useful as I'll be visiting for the first time as well. Which airbnb did you stay at?[/QUOTE]On my first trip to Bogota, I spent 3 days at an airbnb condo close to Parque 93, and gladly moved to a hotel nearby on the 4th day. The airbnb unit was OK. Host was nice and no problem to bring back girls. But it was cold as hell as most of the apartments in Bogota aren't equipped with heaters. And if you think airbnb will give you more privacy when conducting your activities, you are absolutely wrong. Each building has it's reception and security that watch everyone in and out, so you don't really gain advantage over a hotel. Most of the hotels in Bogota are girl friendly. You might need to register them, but the hotel don't raise an eyebrow about this, just make sure you book for 2 persons to avoid additional charges. Good hotels in Bogota are not expensive at all, and some condo type hotels provide similar environment as airbnb units but with more service and amenities, and breakfast too. So now I only stay in a hotel, and don't even look at airbnb anymore in Bogota. Just my 60 pesos.
Similar to my experience except for the cold part for me since I like it that way, although some of the girls were definitely cold and had to cuddle up close to me for warmth.
My stay was exactly like yours as there was security and I had no issues and there was definitely no specific privacy vs what I would expect at a hotel. My biggest pain was not having the daily room service for clean or extra towels and such since you can go through them quickly with multiple visits in a day and night and I know some offer breakfast and such too like you said. Also, if some issue arose with an appliance or plumbing I could hopefully just quickly move to another room which I suspect on airbnb it could be a bit of a hassle even with a good host.
That's why I was thinking definitely next time a hotel as well. But if you do decide to do airbnb I specifically asked my host before booking if guest were allowed at all times of day and night.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2017961]On my first trip to Bogota, I spent 3 days at an airbnb condo close to Parque 93, and gladly moved to a hotel nearby on the 4th day. The airbnb unit was OK. Host was nice and no problem to bring back girls. But it was cold as hell as most of the apartments in Bogota aren't equipped with heaters. And if you think airbnb will give you more privacy when conducting your activities, you are absolutely wrong. Each building has it's reception and security that watch everyone in and out, so you don't really gain advantage over a hotel. Most of the hotels in Bogota are girl friendly. You might need to register them, but the hotel don't raise an eyebrow about this, just make sure you book for 2 persons to avoid additional charges. Good hotels in Bogota are not expensive at all, and some condo type hotels provide similar environment as airbnb units but with more service and amenities, and breakfast too. So now I only stay in a hotel, and don't even look at airbnb anymore in Bogota. Just my 60 pesos.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone have suggestions for a group of guys? We have a group of about 8 guys headed down to Bogota. If it was the Dominican we would rent out a Villa, but doubt things like that exist in Bogota.
Our game plan is basically pound-town with girls we bring back. I was in Bogota a few months ago & already established relations with a few girls. Now the question is: finding somewhere safe, for a group of 8 + 8 girls we'd bring back.
Wondering if we just book out an entire floor of a hotel. But there has to be a better option? Suggestions?
You might get an answer or find one on this thread.
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2956-Bogota-Hotels-and-Rental-Apartments[/URL]
[QUOTE=CFront;2018540]Does anyone have suggestions for a group of guys? We have a group of about 8 guys headed down to Bogota. If it was the Dominican we would rent out a Villa, but doubt things like that exist in Bogota.
Our game plan is basically pound-town with girls we bring back. I was in Bogota a few months ago & already established relations with a few girls. Now the question is: finding somewhere safe, for a group of 8 + 8 girls we'd bring back.
Wondering if we just book out an entire floor of a hotel. But there has to be a better option? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]
I just got back from a 5 day trip to Bogota. Met up with a couple amigas that I have kept in touch with. Also ventured to a few places that I hadn't set my foot on. The old amigas were sweet as before, and were very happy to see me again, same steamy GFE. I gifted them 250 K for a couple hours and 350 K if they stayed the night.
The new places that I went to on this trip, one was the Mezzanine on corner of Carrera 15 and Calle 104. I don't remember which one that I went in. It was probably the third or fourth door on the back side of the building. After choosing the girl, they brought me to another tiny cubical at the end of the walkway. The girl I chose was a young spinner from the Colombian Caribbean coast with beautiful face and very proportional tight body. After warming her up she gave me one hour of incredible GFE for 80 K, and I rewarded her another 20 K for her enthusiasm. A little awkward to do the deed on a very narrow massage table, but seeing her riding me on it and still tried to keep balance was quite amusing.
I also went to Pussy House and Las Divas on a Friday Evening. Both places were packed. Pussy House looks more like a meat market to me on a Friday Evening, many girls around, but I didn't see any super hotties. Mostly is girls next door type at 5-7 range. I was quoted 120 K for short term at Pussy House. The guy to girl ration was not to our favor. A little better at las Divas, and was quoted 80 K for 30 min. Much smaller place with fewer girls at similar quality, and a lot less guys as well. I didn't pick any girls since both places didn't give me a good vibe for GFE.
I tried one day time massage parlor in Chapinero, Tantra Spa 67. I went there at around 2 PM and was shown 6 girls, mostly 5-6 but one young spinner stood out, a 7 at my scale. I chose the one hour option which is the most expensive at 80 K. Room was clean, but no in room shower. The girl was again very willing and I got another GFE. Tell her to keep the 20 K change as tip. There are gems to be found in these establishments. If you speak Spanish and treat the girls with respect, most likely they will return with their enthusiasm.
One thing I want to point out is, I spent 3 nights at the high end clubs in the North, 2 nights in Lido, and one night in both Lalo and Juan Pablo Zhivago. Quality of girls are higher, and you will find more educated girls, but drinks are very expensive at these clubs, and at the end, they will add tax and service fee that can bring up the charge by another 25-30%. The first night I went to Lido and was not paying too much attention on ordering drinks for the girls, got a bill at the end for 780 k just for the drinks, that's almost $300 USD, 6 cervezas and one small bottle of whisky. So be careful with the drinks when hanging out at these clubs.
On the third night, I went out with a girl I met at Lido. We danced all night at Gaira, a restaurant and club on calle 95 owned by Carlos Vives I was told. She spent the whole night with me afterward. The cost, 400 k for her, and another 250 K for about 10 Coronas. Hope the info gives you guys some perspective on the cost to play in Bogota.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2020870]
One thing I want to point out is, I spent 3 nights at the high end clubs in the North, 2 nights in Lido, and one night in both Lalo and Juan Pablo Zhivago. Quality of girls are higher, and you will find more educated girls, but drinks are very expensive at these clubs, and at the end, they will add tax and service fee that can bring up the charge by another 25-30%. The first night I went to Lido and was not paying too much attention on ordering drinks for the girls, got a bill at the end for 780 k just for the drinks, that's almost $300 USD, 6 cervezas and one small bottle of whisky. So be careful with the drinks when hanging out at these clubs.[/QUOTE]Yes, I confirm. In Lido on the price list at the bottom is written that VAT is not included, so they add again some 20% to the listed prices that are allready very high. A simple Coke is 35 000.
[QUOTE=ViajandoMusico;2020870]I just got back from a 5 day trip to Bogota. Met up with a couple amigas that I have kept in touch with. Also ventured to a few places that I hadn't set my foot on. The old amigas were sweet as before, and were very happy to see me again, same steamy GFE. I gifted them 250 K for a couple hours and 350 K if they stayed the night.
The new places that I went to on this trip, one was the Mezzanine on corner of Carrera 15 and Calle 104. I don't remember which one that I went in. It was probably the third or fourth door on the back side of the building. After choosing the girl, they brought me to another tiny cubical at the end of the walkway. The girl I chose was a young spinner from the Colombian Caribbean coast with beautiful face and very proportional tight body. After warming her up she gave me one hour of incredible GFE for 80 K, and I rewarded her another 20 K for her enthusiasm. A little awkward to do the deed on a very narrow massage table, but seeing her riding me on it and still tried to keep balance was quite amusing.
I also went to Pussy House and Las Divas on a Friday Evening. Both places were packed. Pussy House looks more like a meat market to me on a Friday Evening, many girls around, but I didn't see any super hotties. Mostly is girls next door type at 5-7 range. I was quoted 120 K for short term at Pussy House. The guy to girl ration was not to our favor. A little better at las Divas, and was quoted 80 K for 30 min. Much smaller place with fewer girls at similar quality, and a lot less guys as well. I didn't pick any girls since both places didn't give me a good vibe for GFE..[/QUOTE]I concur with this and what Routard stated. It was funny I thought after figuring out the protocol at a couple of the places since you're handed a drink "menu" and the beer selection was conveniently placed on the reverse side hidden at the bottom. Ha! And still ridiculously overpriced. Especially the bottles were just nuts. That's why I stuck to one drink for the girl and myself once I figured out who I was interested in and then made sure to have liquor back at my place to chill and drink for way cheaper. Still, Lido's environment definitely makes you want to hang there for a few hours and soak it all in which means more drinks for the house. That's why I think it's good if you have a wingman to split a whole bottle with and can share with the girls. The more bang for your buck and save you half the cost.
Hi all,
First time poster after lurking for a few weeks and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I will be getting right into the international mongering scene very soon as a lot of travel is on the cards, Colombia in particular is of much interest. The only thing I haven't been able to find on the forum is something about the rating system for the women, I understand it is subjective but I'm looking at finding women who in my mind are 10's along the lines of Colombians such as Anllela Sagra, Ariana James (Arjamoon), the Davalos Twins, Clara Diago, Paula Suarez, Celeste Yvonne, Paula Pacheco, Andrea Rincon, Francesca Larrain, ect.
Are those expectations unrealistic to find at least a few of those in a 2-4 week stay? If that is unrealistic, how close to those will I find, 1 or 2 rungs below? I don't mind paying the extra as long as I get the quality, how much can you get the top notch WG's in Colombia for per hour and TLN? Can you find them in the clubs or do you need to look elsewhere?
Thanks for the help and looking forward to contributing my own reports in the near future.
[QUOTE=Kooper;2021241]I concur with this and what Routard stated. It was funny I thought after figuring out the protocol at a couple of the places since you're handed a drink "menu" and the beer selection was conveniently placed on the reverse side hidden at the bottom. Ha! And still ridiculously overpriced. Especially the bottles were just nuts. That's why I stuck to one drink for the girl and myself once I figured out who I was interested in and then made sure to have liquor back at my place to chill and drink for way cheaper. Still, Lido's environment definitely makes you want to hang there for a few hours and soak it all in which means more drinks for the house. That's why I think it's good if you have a wingman to split a whole bottle with and can share with the girls. The more bang for your buck and save you half the cost.[/QUOTE]True, if you can find a amigo or wingman to go to these clubs with, not only drinks cost could be split, more fun with the chicas as well. I got a little carried away, and agreed to buy a bottle of Old Parr 12 year without realizing how much it was going to cost me. The bottle was shared with 4-5 chicas while I only set my eyes on one, LOL. With everything else in Colombia so inexpensive, these Northern Bogota clubs charge outrageous drink prices. I paid $162 for 3 nights at a very nice and spacious one bedroom suite at Viaggio Nueve Tres close to Parque 93, breakfast included, but almost $300 for a night of drinking with the chicas at Lido (exchange rate at casas de cambio at $1=2800 peso), and no sex included. Unfortunately you do find higher quality girls here that you less likely to encounter in other mongering venues in Bogota. I am not talking just face and physical appearance. The 2 amigas I met on my previous trip, both college students, young and no kids, working part time to either pay some bills or tuition, have since left the scene shortly after my previous departure. Both told me they were there just to make some quick bucks when we hooked up again on this trip. So best strategy is go to these clubs to establish contacts with the girls you desire and meet outside afterward. The maseros in these clubs don't really hassle you for drinks. If you tell them no, they will leave you alone.
One other thing, on some of the smaller clubs, I believe you can negotiate the bill if you pay cash. I pay just the stated drink price on the menu at Lalo when I settle the bill with cash, but tip the bartender a little. I am not sure if you can do the same in Lido.
[QUOTE=ConanTheMonger;2022154]Hi all,
First time poster after lurking for a few weeks and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I will be getting right into the international mongering scene very soon as a lot of travel is on the cards, Colombia in particular is of much interest. The only thing I haven't been able to find on the forum is something about the rating system for the women, I understand it is subjective but I'm looking at finding women who in my mind are 10's along the lines of Colombians such as Anllela Sagra, Ariana James (Arjamoon), the Davalos Twins, Clara Diago, Paula Suarez, Celeste Yvonne, Paula Pacheco, Andrea Rincon, Francesca Larrain, ect.
Are those expectations unrealistic to find at least a few of those in a 2-4 week stay? If that is unrealistic, how close to those will I find, 1 or 2 rungs below? I don't mind paying the extra as long as I get the quality, how much can you get the top notch WG's in Colombia for per hour and TLN? Can you find them in the clubs or do you need to look elsewhere?
Thanks for the help and looking forward to contributing my own reports in the near future.[/QUOTE]If you're there for almost 4 weeks I would think finding something in the range of a 9-10 would be doable because of the time you have to dedicate to check out many different options. In four weeks you could easily probably scour the social media options for under the radar top notch and wine and dine, search nightly the many different strip clubs until finding one or two that fit those descriptions, and then further exhausting Twitter and the Escort options.
But, of course it's not guaranteed because you're talking the perfect of perfect total package, sometimes that 10 just takes some searching. Just for the looks aspect that is which you're talking about. I came across a decent amount of 8's with 9's sprinkled in looks range in a short stay for looks quality and I didn't even touch the surface of the options available. That elusive 10 I didn't come across or I didn't inspect closely enough, but maybe I just missed her or wasn't at the right strip club or day to catch her. I found Friday and Saturday were much busier as well, which gives you 8 weekend days of quantity to find that one or two matching those types of ladies.
I, for one, felt the hype was not overdone, as once I stepped in Lido's it was a fairly decent scene of beautiful women around and throughout the city. Even the strip clubs I visited that were smaller, I found one or two I easily would rate a 8 and maybe even a 9 had I scene more of her looks. But I was doing a lot of checking the places out more than concentrating solely on finding a specific girl during my newbie visit. Like when I went to Lalo's there was only one girl in a tight skirt looks smoking hot, but had that been skirt been off it might have put her in that 10 range, it was hard to judge sometimes. (A nice dilemma to have). And combine that with I have no other city comparison though like the vets, as maybe MDE strip clubs, FB and Casas regularly have those women at moments notice, I don't know.
I do know if I had 2 weeks I would do one in Bog and one in MDE and if I had 4 weeks I would do Bog for 2 weeks, MDE for 1 week, and Cartagena for 1 week in no particular order to get a nice vacation and getaway checking out the many different cities. But I've only been to Bog briefly to help out until I return again shortly.
[QUOTE=ConanTheMonger;2022154]Hi all,
First time poster after lurking for a few weeks and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I will be getting right into the international mongering scene very soon as a lot of travel is on the cards, Colombia in particular is of much interest. The only thing I haven't been able to find on the forum is something about the rating system for the women, I understand it is subjective but I'm looking at finding women who in my mind are 10's along the lines of Colombians such as Anllela Sagra, Ariana James (Arjamoon), the Davalos Twins, Clara Diago, Paula Suarez, Celeste Yvonne, Paula Pacheco, Andrea Rincon, Francesca Larrain, ect.
Are those expectations unrealistic to find at least a few of those in a 2-4 week stay? If that is unrealistic, how close to those will I find, 1 or 2 rungs below? I don't mind paying the extra as long as I get the quality, how much can you get the top notch WG's in Colombia for per hour and TLN? Can you find them in the clubs or do you need to look elsewhere?
Thanks for the help and looking forward to contributing my own reports in the near future.[/QUOTE]Prepare to be disappointed.
Your expectations are unrealistic. Your list of examples never step in front of a camera without a small army of specialists making certain everything is perfect. Add in professional photography / videography plus editing to get the finished product.
There are women, plenty of them, who look that good without professional help, but you will rarely find them in a strip club, no matter how upscale. They can make more money in other ways.
However, if that is the scale you want to use, you will find plenty of 7's (8 on a real world scale) and 8's (real world 9) and maybe one or two 9's.
Next issue is the price. For the closest to your unrealistic expectation, expect to start at $200 USD per hour. You won't get GFE with any of them unless you spend at least a few hours wining and dining and impressing them with the amount of money you're willing to spend, all on the clock.
About twice a year a post just like this appears somewhere. Always from someone who has never posted before, always from someone new to mongering, always from someone who never posts any follow-up review and always from someone thinking they will find an A list celebrity in a strip club or brothel.
However, assuming this time you really are going to travel, unlike all those other posters, your best bet is the escort agencies. There are dozens and some promise the pictures are recent and accurate. The price will be high, but you only want top shelf.
Good luck.
[QUOTE=ConanTheMonger;2022154]Hi all,
First time poster after lurking for a few weeks and trying to absorb as much information as possible. I will be getting right into the international mongering scene very soon as a lot of travel is on the cards, Colombia in particular is of much interest. The only thing I haven't been able to find on the forum is something about the rating system for the women, I understand it is subjective but I'm looking at finding women who in my mind are 10's along the lines of Colombians such as Anllela Sagra, Ariana James (Arjamoon), the Davalos Twins, Clara Diago, Paula Suarez, Celeste Yvonne, Paula Pacheco, Andrea Rincon, Francesca Larrain, ect.
Are those expectations unrealistic to find at least a few of those in a 2-4 week stay? If that is unrealistic, how close to those will I find, 1 or 2 rungs below? I don't mind paying the extra as long as I get the quality, how much can you get the top notch WG's in Colombia for per hour and TLN? Can you find them in the clubs or do you need to look elsewhere?
Thanks for the help and looking forward to contributing my own reports in the near future.[/QUOTE]Sure. Get to the best club, describe in detail what you want, start your bid at 1,500 K COP an hour and 5,000 K COP TLN.
Google says 1750 USD. Do you really mean that expensive or did you add an extra zero by mistake? I'm not being sarcastic and this is a genuine question.
[QUOTE=Questner;2023035]Sure. Get to the best club, describe in detail what you want, start your bid at 1,500 K COP an hour and 5,000 K COP TLN.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2022997]Prepare to be disappointed.
Your expectations are unrealistic. Your list of examples never step in front of a camera without a small army of specialists making certain everything is perfect. Add in professional photography / videography plus editing to get the finished product.
There are women, plenty of them, who look that good without professional help, but you will rarely find them in a strip club, no matter how upscale. They can make more money in other ways.
However, if that is the scale you want to use, you will find plenty of 7's (8 on a real world scale) and 8's (real world 9) and maybe one or two 9's.
Next issue is the price. For the closest to your unrealistic expectation, expect to start at $200 USD per hour. You won't get GFE with any of them unless you spend at least a few hours wining and dining and impressing them with the amount of money you're willing to spend, all on the clock..[/QUOTE]I don't mean the photo shopped finished product level of beauty but I get your point. Going by the scale you just posted, real world 8's, 9's and 10's for the prices I've read in this thread sound like a good deal anyway.
[QUOTE=PrithviReddy;2023133]Google says 1750 USD. Do you really mean that expensive or did you add an extra zero by mistake? I'm not being sarcastic and this is a genuine question.[/QUOTE]ConanTheMonger wants celebrities who are 10 in looks. No mistake in numbers. You won't get celebrities for these peanuts, although this is a start for young gem lookalikes, landlocked in the country, and moneyed locals pay about 5,000 USD for a weekend (2-3 days). You have to understand that this site does not cater to truly rich folks. I would be happy to find a disadvantaged 'nine' with some blemishes for a tenth of the cost.
[QUOTE=Questner;2023436]ConanTheMonger wants celebrities who are 10 in looks. No mistake in numbers. You won't get celebrities for these peanuts, although this is a start for young gem lookalikes, landlocked in the country, and moneyed locals pay about 5,000 USD for a weekend (2-3 days). You have to understand that this site does not cater to truly rich folks. I would be happy to find a disadvantaged 'nine' with some blemishes for a tenth of the cost.[/QUOTE]Of course the downside of paying that price for a 10 is that you'll likely end up with a starfish who says "no" to almost everything. I mean, besides the downside of paying enough to spend the night with a dozen 8's who will do everything to rock your world, because you'd rather fuck a mannequin.
I'm planning a trip to South America mainly for travelling. The only flight available is a long stop over in Bogota on both legs. Landing before 6 am and boarding at 10-11 pm. So I have 2 whole days in Bogota.
I been to Bogota before so I have seen all the tourist stuff. But back then I never did any mongering. I have plans to do a proper Colombia mongering trip that include Medellin but this will be another time I think.
Do you guys have any suggestions? I plan to hit some casas before boarding. Now on the way back the layover is on a Sunday. I think the casas will be closed? I don't mind possibly paying a chica for a few hours for her to come to my hotel. Anyone can recommend any chica friendly hotels? Thanks!
[QUOTE=ConanTheMonger;2023430]I don't mean the photo shopped finished product level of beauty but I get your point. Going by the scale you just posted, real world 8's, 9's and 10's for the prices I've read in this thread sound like a good deal anyway.[/QUOTE]In the week I spent in Medellin (park Lleras, the mentioned nightclubs in the area, the high end stripclub in the air hangar near it and the malls I can't say I say I saw any 10's, pro or not. And maybe not even a high 9. But I did see a lot of 8's and a few 9's. And the 8's and 9's are very affordable. If you want predictable results, maybe Mexico DF is a good option for you. The Mexican escort site zonadivas has many 9's and maybe a lighting / makeup tailored 10 that look as close to the girls you mentioned. The links on the right even show videos and candid photos of some of the girls. The prices are very reasonable for what I've seen for real escorts of that caliber posting online in Latin America at 2500-5000 pesos, certainly not $1000/ hour porn star fees. As is often the case for many places outside the USA and Europe, you don't really know what you'll get in a city. At least with sites like Zonadivas you know what you'll can get and for how much without having to be on the ground. I've heard the hottest Colombian girls are to be found in the nicest gyms in their respective city. And that's completely believable since the hottest ones basically live and fill up their Instagram pages from. But they're probably not explicitly for sale. Of course if you're willing to blow $1000 usd an hour some can be had. But at that point you're talking pornstar /"model" money and you can get 10's in any country. Especially Europe. And there are oh so many of the type of girls you posted in places like Czech, Romania, etc that are IMHO 10's at that price point, they just aren't Colombian if you can live with that LOL.
[QUOTE=Droplet;2023794]I'm planning a trip to South America mainly for travelling. The only flight available is a long stop over in Bogota on both legs. Landing before 6 am and boarding at 10-11 pm. So I have 2 whole days in Bogota.
I been to Bogota before so I have seen all the tourist stuff. But back then I never did any mongering. I have plans to do a proper Colombia mongering trip that include Medellin but this will be another time I think.
Do you guys have any suggestions? I plan to hit some casas before boarding. Now on the way back the layover is on a Sunday. I think the casas will be closed? I don't mind possibly paying a chica for a few hours for her to come to my hotel. Anyone can recommend any chica friendly hotels? Thanks![/QUOTE]All the answers are here:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3865-Bogota-FAQ&p=1982221&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1982221.
[B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 3 years. If you are interested in living in Colombia, here is anything you need to know: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3863-Living-in-Colombia&p=1980490&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1980490.
This FAQ is a complete report about all the mongering options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. Any discrepancy has been communicated to World Travel 69, so info on the map and in this FAQ should now be the same. As info changes all the time, this is the updated version on April 2017. Don't hesitate to communicate any additional information to keep this FAQ updated. If you sum it up, this description reports around 2000 sex works in a shift, which means probably some 4 000 in total. Official stats claim a total of 14 000 sex workers in Bogota, it seems over estimated to me.
Don't hesitate to contact me through PM for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.
- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.
- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.
- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.
- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.
- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.
- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.
- In terms of attitude, genuine tenderness, Colombia comes first.
I use to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota. Why is attitude so good in Colombia? It's cultural of course, as Colombians are genuinely nice people and girls are full of passion and tenderness.
Keep in mind also that unlike what happens in other parts of the world, sex workers in South America in general and in Colombia in particular are independent girls. Organized crime is not interested in prostitution. Narco-traffic, or extortion is way more lucrative. For cultural reasons, pimps are inexistent here, as Colombianas are grown up that men always have to pay for everything. For most girls, prostitution is just a period of their life when they need money, which means between 20 and 30 years old before they meet a husband. You will nearly not meet prostitutes in Bogota over 35 years old. As most girls are independent, it is very easy to get her number and meet her outside the club. I would not recommend start dating a prostitute however. If you are looking for a date, go for dating sites instead ([URL]www.colompiancupid.com[/URL], [URL]www.latinamericancupid.com[/URL], [URL]www.meetic.com[/URL]. ) there are enough nice non pros in Bogota willing to meet a wealthy gringo when it comes up to serious relation. Here anything you need to know if you want to date Colombianas: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas&p=1983593&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1983593.
Comparing the Bogota scene to the other cities in Colombia, Medellin has the fame of the most beautiful girls in Colombia, but they are far too artificial with fake tits, boobs and low personality. The Medellin scene is also way smaller with way less options than the Bogota scene. The Cartagena scene is another option only for the beach, the safety and the touristic options available. When it comes to pure mongering, the scene is small, the girls are less beautiful, more expensive and spoiled due tourism. Other cities than Bogota, Medellin or Cartagena are not an option for mongering purposes only.
[B]HOW TO GO[/B]
Most nationalities are allowed to stay 3 months without visa in Colombia with a possible 3 additional months. There is no mandatory vaccination except yellow fever if you intend to travel to the Amazone.
From Europe to Bogota, there are daily flights with Air France from Paris, KLM from Amsterdam, Lufthansa from Frankfurt, Iberia and Avianca from Barcelona and Madrid. Two new airlines have started recently, Turkish Airlines but more interesting the low cost airline Air Europa.
From the Americas, Avianca, Copa, LAN will connect any Latin American country and the USA to Bogota as well as major Caribbean Islands. American Airlines, United Airlines and Delta have all direct flights to Bogota from the USA, as well as Air Canada from Canada, Aeromexico from Mexico, La Cubana from La Havana, Avior and Conviasa from Caracas, Aerolineas Argentinas from Buenos Aires.
There are no direct flights between Colombia and Asia or Africa.
Rain season is during spring (March, April, May) and fall (September, October, November). Best is to visit Colombia during winter (December, January, February) and summer (June, July, August). Avoid at all cost Semana Santa and Christmas holydays. During these weeks, there is virtually no mongering and other night life, air flights are overbooked; Bogota and Medellin look like ghost cities while Cartagena, Santa Marta and San Andres are overcrowded and hotels overbooked.
Don't forget to bring a coat even if Colombia is on the Equator, as Bogota is at 2600 m and temperature drops to 10see at night. Don't forget also to learn a bit of Spanish before to go, as most Colombians don't speak English.
[B]MONEY[/B]
The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300 000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 600 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.
Minimum salary is 250 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.
[B]SAFETY AND HEALTH[/B]
For any emergency, call 123. Each neighborhood has a CAI, a local Police station.
Bogota has excellent private clinics as long as you can pay for it. If you have a health issue, I would recommend [URL]www.miclinicavip.com.co[/URL] CL. 97 #23-10,tel. (1) 7452727 as they are specialized in foreigner without local medical insurance.
Viagra and Cialis is available in any pharmacy without prescription.
Colombia used to be the most dangerous country in the world, but Pablo Escobar is dead, peace has been signed with the FARC, murders and kidnaps have dropped drastically, Bogota being now in the average of South American cities of similar size, which is still high of course. Kidnap and murder is definitely not an issue anymore for a foreign tourist as long as you are not involved in politics and drugs.
Petty crime is the major issue nowadays. As soon as you arrive, put all your valuable belongings in a safe and keep only a photocopy of your passport and cash for the day. It's OK to walk in the street by night in the Norther Area (roughly between Calle 67 and Calle 153 between Autopista / Caracas and the mountains) but always use a taxi by night outside this area.
Foreign tourists are king in Colombia, police will never bother you as long as you are not involved in drugs or minors. Crime is not targeting tourists and most Colombians will have a safe look on tourists in order that nothing will happen to them. Regarding mongering activities, prostitution and pimping is officially illegal but widely tolerated as long as no minors are involved and there is no violence or human traffic. In Colombian culture, people respect private life and it's of no one's business what two adults in mutual agreement might do in a private environment.
For more information about safety in Colombia, check my complete report here: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3864-Safety-in-Colombia&p=1996120&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1996120.
[B]WHERE TO STAY[/B]
Best and safest is to stay around Zona T and Parque 93, the two areas where you will find all the nightclubs, bar restaurants and malls for the upper class. All hotels are girl friendly. In Colombia, people respect private life and it's of no one's business what two adults might do on mutual agreement in a private area. There might just be an additional cost for double occupancy. Best is to pay double occupancy when registering the room in order not to have to manage it at the moment you want a girl to enter. Girls like any other guest need to show ID, which is also for your own safety.
Of course, here are also the most expensive hotels of the city, but a great deal is: [URL]www.viaggio.com.co[/URL], full furnished apartments or studio for 180 0000 a night including breakfast. They have several buildings in the area, my personal recommendation would be the Virrey, at a walking distance from both Zona T and Parque 93.
Bogota offers very few options for renting furnished apartments on short term. Try: [URL]https://www.airbnb.com.co/.[/URL] Short term furnished apartments do not always mean more privacy than hotel, as often the owner lives in the same building or house and most buildings have safety guards asking ID to any visitor. If you can't find anything, just drop me a pm, I might have something.
If you don't want to bring your girl at your own hotel room, this is a great love motel: [URL]www.amartesuite.com[/URL] Calle 62 #14-19. Actually there are dozens of love motel in the same block offering rooms with hourly rate. Problem is that love motels respect privacy and will not ask for ID. For your own safety, don't bring a girl here from the street or from internet that has not been registered in a club or agency.
In order to avoid roaming cost and to allow the girls to contact you, best is to buy a local prepaid SIM card (Movistar or Claro) for 20 000 (or 90 000 including cellphone). Additional minutes can be bought at any Carulla or Exito store.
[B]LOCAL TRANSPORT AND GUIDE[/B]
Local transport is a nightmare: traffic jams, overcrowded buses. If you are in Bogota just for a few days, easiest is to take the yellow taxis, a trip will cost you between 6000 and 15 000,25 000 for the airport.
You don't need really any guide, as all the required info is in this FAQ and any taxi driver knows these places. Any taxi driver could be your guide and wingman, hourly rate is 25 000. Don't expect however a taxi driver speaking English. A good idea is to send taxi license number to someone through whatsapp The white taxis waiting in front of hotels or airport are a bit more expensive but also safer and a more comfortable. Hourly rate would be 30 000. If you ask to the hotel lobby of the better hotels, they might find one who speaks English. Expect of course to pay the gringo price for that special request. If you don't feel comfortable asking to an unknown taxi driver being your monger guide and wingman, just drop me a pm.
If you start to get around, you can try the Transmilenio a bus system with stations as a metro system. A ticket is 2 000 and will bring you anywhere in the city.
I will not recommend to rent a car, it's expensive and traffic is too difficult even with a GPS. In addition you need to find every time a parking which will cost same as a taxi.
Directions are easy as streets and avenues have numbers. The mountain chain will indicate the east direction. From there, parallel to the mountain chain start the Carrera, 0 being the mountain chain, numbers increasing westward. The Calles start in the historic center, increasing going north. They increase also going south, with an additional S to indicate it's in the southern area of the city. A Diagonal is a Calle just that it's not exactly parallel to the others, and a Transversal is a Carrera that is not exactly parallel. Carrera 24 # 40-20 means that the direction is on Carrera 24 at 20 meters from intersection with Calle 40. Pair numbers are on the north or east side of the street, impair on the south or west side.
[B]ESCORTS[/B]
OK, you have just arrived in Bogota after a long flight, check-in at you hotel, shower, but it's already the evening and too lazy to go out. Easiest is to call an escort. Find hereafter the escort sites, all agencies:
[URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL]
[URL]http://eroticasbogota.com/[/URL]
[URL]www.eroticservicesbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL]
[URL]http://escortsbogota.com.co/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.angeleslatinasescort.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.amadax.co[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagosbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]www.class-models.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.mujeresbogota.com[/URL]
[URL]http://www.prepagos1000.co/prepagos-bogota-escorts-vip[/URL]
Can't really recommend anyone, as it all depends of the girl and I suspect most girls to be registered in several agencies, so it comes all to the same. Average price is 200 000 an hour. Needless to pay more, chances are the same girl will appear. Yes, you will rarely have the girl form the picture. It's not a rip off, but simply at the moment that you call, they have no idea who is available. Once you called, they will try to reach the girl and at the end send the girl they can contact. But don't worry, the girl will be as beautiful and as young as the picture and will give excellent GFE service including often DFK and BBBJ. Take care also to pay afterwards, not upfront.
If you are into repeating, most escorts won't mind giving their personal phone number, which allows you to use her service without the agency in between. Hourly rate might be 50% than through the agency.
[URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/bogota/[/URL] is an internet site with adds. You will find here some independent girls, but most adds will bring you back again to agencies. Agencies only offer outcall, so If you check for girls who offer also incall, chances are higher to find an independent. It's not always true, as an incall might bring you to a brothel or a private casa with different working girls. Independent girls are way cheaper, typical price 60 000/30 min and 80 000/60 min. This is actually the best way to be sure she is independent. Bottom line is that anyone can put an add on mileroticos, so it can be just anyone, including if you are lucky a true amateur giving genuine GFE.
You will also find escorts advertising on Twitter and even through Tinder, but for your safety take care that she will go through a hotel desk where she needs to show ID.
[B]MASSAGE PARLORS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Next day, you slowly start to get around the hotel. There are several day options in Zona Norte, all massage parlors. They are all in safe and discrete locations without sign, 3-4 girls in a line up, prices between 40 000 and 150 000 for a massage, 80 000 up to 300 000 for a poor massage with fair sex including BJ, often on an uncomfortable massage table sometimes a bed. Payment is upfront. Most girls are beautiful but already with some mileage in my books, average age is 30-35 years. It's therefore not my favorite scene, but excellent if you are looking for a safe, relaxed and discrete scene. Anyway, entrance is free, so don't hesitate to visit several of them before making up your choice. Take out is usually not offered and most girls working during the day in massage parlors do it because they can't afford for personal reasons to work by night. Most girls therefore will not give their personal phone number to meet outside the massage parlour.
If you don't want to lose your time in visiting, just try my best recommendation: Av. Carrera 15 #104-03. It's a building with some stores at first level and a mezzanine above these stores. Just take the stairs to the mezzanine and you will find half a dozen of massage parlors with tinted windows and a number on the door. Most doors are half open with a girl at the entrance to invite you in. The massage parlors are open every day including Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 40 000 for a massage and 80 000 for massage with sex. Each massage parlor has 3-4 young and above average girls, so plenty of choice.
The other massage parlors from North till South:
[B]Abejitas[/B] Avenida Suba #103 b-73. [URL]http://www.abejitasmasajes.com/.[/URL] Open every day from 8 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, for sex 100 000/30 min and 180 000/60 min. 3-4 girls.
[B]Princesita [/B]Av. Carrera 15 #116-59, Apt 202. Open every day except Sunday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing 40 000 for a massage, 80 000 for massage with sex. 2-3 girls.
[B]Loutron[/B] [URL]http://loutroncolombia.com/loutron-colombia.html[/URL] Carrera 11 A # 98-49. Open every day except Sunday from 12 am till 10 pm. It's by far the most upscale massage parlor. Great facilities, 4-5 girls make a line up as if they are top models on high heels and bikini. They are impressive at first sight, but at second look they have all fake boobs and too artificial for my taste. Pricing is 150 000 for massage and 300 000 for sex.
[B]Isis [/B] Carrera 15 # 83-38: It's actually not a massage parlor, but a motel open 24 hours a day that girls from Porky's right on the corner use to bring their clients, as Porkies has no rooms on the venue. As some girls use it also as a living, the new owner decided to open it also as a brothel. Nice rooms, pricing is 170 000/60 min. However line-up is irregular, only 2 girls during my visit. I guess that early in the morning girls are still sleeping and late in the evening girls are in the night club. It's still a great option, as the very same girl you would meet in Porky's and fuck in the very same room would cost you 3 times the price.
[B]Absolut Spa [/B]Carrera 16 # 80-66.20 [URL]http://www.absolutspa.com[/URL] Open from 10 am till 8 pm every day except Saturday. Pricing 40 000 for massage, 80 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.
[B]Colorin Spa [/B]Carrera 14 #79-70 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 9. 30 pm from Monday till Saturday, from 10 am till 5 pm on Sunday. Pricing 120 000/30 min and 160 000/60 min. 8 girls.
[B]Avispita [/B]Carrera 14 #79-62, at the second floor. [URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL]. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing 185 000 including sex. 2-3 girls.
[B]Apertua Via Spa[/B] Carrera 13 a # 79-71 at the second floor. Open from 9 am till 10 pm. Pricing 180 000.2-3 girls.
[B]Sensity [/B]Calle 78 #13 a 20. Pricing is 180 000 including sex. Open from 9 am till 9 pm. From Monday till Saturday. 8 girls.
[B]Abadubai Spa [/B] Carrera 12 a #77 a-25. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. A new place, great facilities, the massage tables are beds on table level. Best line-up of all massage parlors, 9 girls, all very beautiful. Pricing starts at 60 000 for simple massage till 160 000 for one hour massage and sex. Expect GFE, an excellent recommendation.
[B]HIGH END CLUBS IN ZONA NORTE[/B]
Night time, time for some more serious action! As you made a long trip to get here, you just are looking for the best that Bogota has to offer. Good news, the best clubs are in the Northern Area close to your hotel and each club is at walking distance of the next, although walking from the first south to the last north would be too far. They are the typical nightclubs with rooms for sex. Although most have podiums with pole dance, there are seldom strip shows. Except Porky, the clubs have no signs, but obvious bouncers at the door indicate that there is a club. Here is where you will find the hottest girls in Bogota and of course also the most expensive. Average age between 20 and 30, very good looking and nicely dressed. There is usually a 150 000 fee for the club to go to the room or to leave the club with the girl, the rest is to negotiate directly with the girl, around 200 000 to 400 000 for a shorty and 300 to 600 000 for all night. For local standards, these prices are way over rated, but then again compared to what you would pay in USA or Europe for an escort, it's still a good deal as girls are very hot and service is excellent.
Even if prices are way higher as in Zona de Tolerencia, girls do not necessarily earn more. When in zona de tolerencia, they will earn roughly a 100 000/ hour during peak time with quickies, drink tips and stage dances. In a high end Club, she is not allowed to leave the club before closing time, might end the night without any client and at best end the night with a customer and earn 400 000 ending her night shift at 7 am. Only the most beautiful girls might earn better in this environment that is why you will find here the most beautiful girls of Bogota. Here is also where you might find a true amateur trying to pay her studies during week end.
If you are just for a short trip to Colombia, an all nighter is definitely my recommendation as once back in Europe or USA it's virtually impossible to pay for making love all night with a young top model looking girl. What makes the service so good with all night? Well, first, the girl is not in her brothel territory but in your territory, she doesn't want to take the risk to deal with an unsatisfied customer while more vulnerable. Second, being out of the brothel environment, it helps both to forget that the relation is within a business agreement as Colombianas have a natural trend to be tender and sweet. Third, that night you will be her only client and sex partner, some nights she even has any client, she therefore will give the best of her. And last, payment is not upfront but when she leaves. That night she will be your girlfriend and risk is high to forget she is just a pro.
Only problem of these clubs apart from the high prices is the harassment of the crew to make you drink, you and the girl. Once you have ordered a bottle, pressure drops, but please check pricing before ordering. All these clubs have clear prices advertised, but prices are overrated at least for local standards. May be throwing big money in expensive clubs surrounded by beautiful girls is your idea of fun. I would rather recommend to just take a glass, chose quickly a girl and get out of the club in order to keep the money for the sex.
There are no cover fees to get in these clubs; they are all in a walking distance from one another and in a safe area even at night. Most probably you will be spotted by some local dude that get a small commission to bring a customer to a club and that will bring you from one club to another. They will not really harass you, are not dangerous and at least will show you around all the existing clubs. These clubs start to open at 7 pm and close at 3 am every day.
How does a girl evaluate the acceptable price for an all nighter? The typical mistake a customer makes when negotiating an all nighter is to believe that the girl takes in consideration physical aspect, comfort of the place or how many guys she needs to fuck. Actually the girl doesn't care; she will only look what she will not earn that night being not in another club. Roughly if she is a club in Zona de Tolerencia, she earns 100 000 an hour during peak time, 50 000 an hour during the week or after 2 am, do the math. I therefore would definitively advice to keep your all nighter plan for week days. Keep in mind that if you take a girl out early in the evening, she will try to leave after a couple of hours spent in order to go back to a club and earn more money. Best is to leave with a girl at closing time, as after a couple of hours even the early morning clubs are closing and she will have no reason to leave anymore. Just before closing time, she is very vulnerable as risk is high for her to end the night without customer. Keep in mind that all nighter is a very relative meaning, so best is to close the deal with the girl agreeing on exact time.
Most girls in high end clubs have no problem giving their personal phone number for another meeting without the club's exit fee. If there was chemistry during the first night with a girl, it's an excellent idea to meet her again outside the club. Treat her as a date, and you will get genuine GFE.
Walking from South to North:
[B]El Padrino [/B]Carrera 14 # 81-10. Tel. 320 425 7750. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/clubelpadrinointernacional/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. Impressive line-up, 40 very hot girls, no cover, pricing for the room or exit fee is 180 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 300 000- 600 000 for all night.
[B]Lalo International Club (ex Porkys) [/B]Calle 83 #14 A-28. Tel 314 371 8000 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Porkys-Club...8361188396084/.[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. They recently changed the name for Lalo's, which is confusing as the real Lalo's is on Carrera 15#88-30.40 very hot girls, no cover, exit fee 185 000, the girl will ask 200 000- 300 000 for a short time and 3000 000- 600 000 for all night. There are no rooms in the club, but the club has a hotel nearby at additional price.
[B]Lewinski [/B]Carrera 14 # 85-17. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This a smaller bar compared to the others. There are just half a dozen girls, but why not throw a look as entrance is free. There are no rooms inside and exit fee is 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
[B]La Piscina del Norte [/B]Calle 86 A # 14-45, a black house easily to spot. Open daily from 7 pm till 3 am. Don't expect a swimming pool as you might find it in a FKK, it's just a decor pool. 30 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
[B]VIP [/B]Calle 86 a # 14-57 next door of la Piscina del Norte, smaller and cheaper facilities. The name keeps changing, even the bouncers don't know anymore what is the name. 15 girls, strip tease, rooms on site. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 250 000- 500 000 for all night.
[B]Red Garden [/B]Calle 86 A # 13 A-44. Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. It's just lower class bar compared to the others, but it's just in front of the 2 former clubs, so why not have a look. There are just half a dozen girls way less beautiful than in the other clubs in the area. No cover, exit fee or room fee of 150 000, the girl will ask 150 000- 300 000 for a short time and 200 000- 400 000 for all night. Very few customers here, you can easily negotiate down the prices.
[B]Lalos: [/B]Cr 15 # 88-33. This is the most popular club, here you will find the best choice in term of looks and quantity. Impressive line-up, some 40 very sexy girls. It's also the most expensive one. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 165 000 for the room or for exit fee. Girls ask 200 000- 400 000 for a short time and 400 000- 800 000 for all night, as they have to pay daily 100 000 to the club.
[B]Juan Pablo Zhivago [/B]Carrera18 and. 93 46. Open daily except Sunday from 7 pm till 3 am. Tel, 616 47 74. Open daily from 6 pm till 3 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/JuanPablosZhivago/.[/URL] This is my favorite club, as it's the only one that understands that clients don't want to be harassed by a crew of waiters in smoking. Therefore it's a popular club for Asian expats ready to spend money as long as it's in a safe and quiet environment. As it cutters to Asians, they have even Karaoke rooms, but no rooms for sex. No cover, no strip-tease shows, no one to harass you to sit on a table, to drink or to be with a girl. There are only 15 girls, but due to the quiet environment, it's here that you have most chance to find a truly occasional student just trying to pay her college. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
[B]Lido [/B]Carrera 14 # 95-33. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. This club disappeared from the radar when they built a building on the former location. The new location is just a block away from the historic one. Open daily from 6 pm till 6 am. High end and large facilities, 30 hot girls. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 300 000 to 600 000 for the night.
[B]Punto G [/B]Carrera 15 #95-80. Open daily from 9 pm till 6 am. It's a new club, a block away from Lido. Just 10 girls, probably because they just start in the business, but the club has potential. Pricing is 150 000 for take-out or room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night.
[B]Lancaster [/B]Carrera 15 #106-58. Tel 520 68 19 [URL]https://www.facebook.com/people/Lancaster-Paris/100008354311188.[/URL] This club also disappeared from the radar when they closed their location in Calle 90, but they opened again much Northern. Open from Monday till Saturday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 160 000 for take out or for the room, the girls will ask 250 000 to 500 000 for the night. There are only 10 girls, not really worth the visit as it's also further away from the rest of the clubs.
[B]OZ Club [/B]Calle 74#20-39 [URL]www.ozclub.com.co[/URL] Open from Monday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 am. This one is not in the Northern Area anymore, but it's a high end club, at least regarding the pricing. At first I believed it was just a "barra why tanga" and that no sex was offered, but yes they do. 20 000 cover and for this you get a private strip show, although there are also public strip shows. The facilities are nice, but there are only 10 girls. Pricing for sex is to be negotiated with the girl, but expect 200 000 including the room. There is also take out, bar fine is 140 000 and the girl will probably ask 200 000 till 400 000 for all night.
Just for the record, as I don't recommend this scene, there is some street action in the vicinity of these clubs, mainly on Carrera 15 with Calle 86 and on Carrera 15 with Calle 103. Not sure if all are real females.
[B]DAY BROTHELS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
After a night full of action, you start to get used to the city and are looking for a more local exotic scene than the high scale clubs catering for tourists and wealthier locals. You don't need to wait till the evening; there is a great day scene of small brothels in Chapinero at very low cost price. This scene is basically on Avenida Caracas between Calle 72 north and calle 53 south. On this 2 km long axis, there is a convenient Transmilenio. Chapinero is a popular neighbor with a lot of students and small businesses, quiet and safe during day time.
My good friend Zing23 did a great investigation job in this scene when he stayed a couple of months in Bogota and World Travel 69 did a great job as usual for updating his map.
All these brothels open daily between 9 am and 9 pm, a lot are closed on Sunday. Pricing? Hard to believe, but between 20 000 and 30 000, which means between 7 and 10 $! Ugly girls? Not at all! Most are young girl next door (well next door if you live in Colombia of course!) between 20 and 30 years old, working on daytime as working at night is always more difficult to explain to family. What is the counterpart of all that good news? There is no! A great scene for the mongerer looking for unlimited sex as cost is not an issue anymore.
I have listed the brothels from north to south as you can easily and safely walk from one brothel to another, visiting the neighborhood, hop from one pussy to another. The brothels have all the same type of facilities: a bar with cheap drinks, a line-up of half a dozen girls, no cover, no pressure to enter or to leave, rooms in the venue. Facilities are cheap but clean. There are usually no showers available however for the customer.
Hard to recommend specific place, as it all depends of the girl of course not of the brothel. If you take your time to visit the different places, you can find some real gems. The basic service includes total nude, BJ, multiple position sex. If you chose the option of additional time (30 min or 60 min instead of 20 min), you might expect more than just a quickie: BBBJ, DFK and GFE if there is some chemistry with the girl or if you pay for the requested option. Take out is usually not offered and most girls will decline meetings in the evening as they have chosen this scene way less lucrative as the night scene because they can't work during night time for family or other personal reasons.
If I have to recommend one, it would be [B]Chicas Milenio [/B]Calle 71 #14 A-24. It's also the only one that is open daily day and night, from 9 am till 3 am. It's also the one with most girls, between 10 and 15 on a shift. It is also one of the most expensive whatever it means: 30 000 pour 20 min, 40 000 pour 30 min. If you want to visit only one, it should be that one. [B]Chicas 2000 [/B]is just in front, worth to visit also.
When walking from one brothel to another, you will start to recognize the houses that are brothels: no signs, no rooms, but an open door with a guard at the entrance. There are also a couple of dudes in the street that will spot you and hand you over ID cards with address of a brothel.
In addition to the discrete brothels scene, Chapinero has also it's own small RDL. I don't recommend it, but it is just for the record as it has never been reported before on ISG. It's at the intersection of Calle 67 and Carrera 21, a couple of motels with street action in front, even during daytime. The pricing is the typical 20 000 and 7 000 for the motel room. Girls are overaged and overweighed. Just not worth it, keep it to the discrete brothel scene.
Find here after the brothel list from North to South:
- [B]Tantra[/B] Carrera 20 #72-30. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Princing massage+sex 40 000/20 min 60 000/30 min. 80 000/ trio. 5 girls.
- [B]Alcazares [/B]Carrera 26 #71 B-61. Open from 9 am till 7 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 42 000/30 mn. 4 Girls.
- [B]Chicas Milenio [/B]Calle 71 #14 A-24. Open from 9 am till 2 am every day. Pricing 30 00/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Chicas 2000 [/B]Calle 71 # 14 A-27-33. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 12 girls.
- [B]Bar La 70 [/B]Carrera 17 # 70 A-80 [URL]www.paradise-bogota.com[/URL] . Open daily from 8 am till 9 pm. Pricing 25 000/20 min 30 000/30 min. A great place to hang around, 8 girls.
- Calle 68 #17-85. Open from 9 am till 9 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. Only 4 average girls.
- [B]Castillo Spa [/B]Calle 68 # 17-77. A new massage parlour. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 50 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min for massage +sex. 4 girls.
- [B]Acuarius [/B]Carrera 19 #67-93. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 4 average girls.
- [B]Video Bar [/B]Carrera 19 # 67-47. Open from 9 am till 8 pm every day. Pricing 30 000/20 min and 35 000/30 min. 3 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]La Bonita [/B]Carrera 15 #67-24. Open from 9 am till 9 pm every day. Pricing 25 000/20 min and 30 000/30 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Tantra[/B] Calle 67 # 15-10. Nice White House but with only 4 average girls. Open from 9 am till 8 pm from Monday till Saturday. Pricing 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min.
- [B]Las Vegas Club [/B]Calle 67 # 16-23. Nice night Club facilities with rooms. Open from 9 pm till 9 pm every day. 10 girls.
- Carrera 17 # 66-36. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Bar Las Divas [/B]Carrera 17 # 66-32. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. Pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Princess [/B]Carrera 17 # 66-23. Open daily from 9 am till 3 am. 3 girls and pricing is 22 000/15 min, 27 000/20 min and 32 000/30 min.
- [B]Bless Bar [/B]Carrera 15 #66-22. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Palmeras Real [/B]Carrera 15 # 66-17. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 22 000/20 min, 32 000/30 min and 64 000/60 min. 10 young and nice girls.
- Calle 66 # 17-08. A new place Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min and 50 000/30 min. Only 2 average girls. Not worth the visit.
- [B]La Mansion del Placer [/B]Carrera 16 #65-23. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 60/60 min. 5 girls.
- [B]Gaticas [/B]Av. Caracas # 64-36. Open daily from 9 am till 11 pm, pricing is 30 000/20 min, 35 000/30 min and 65 000/60 min. 6 girls.
- [B]Bar Reservado "La 64" [/B]Calle 64 #15-30. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. 5 girls.
- Calle 64#15-18 Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min and 40 000/30 min. 3 girls.
- [B]El Paraiso [/B]Carrera 15 # 63-26. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Palmira [/B]Calle 63 # 16 A-42. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min, 30 000/30 min. 5 girls.
- [B]112 Masajes [/B]Calle 62 #13-31. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 60 000/30 min and 90 000/60 min. Just two average girls, not worth the price.
- [B]El Tercer Piso [/B]Calle 61 A # 13 A-39. Open daily from 9 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 25 000/20 min. 3 girls.
- [B]Bellezas y Figuras [/B] Carrera 13 #61-75 office 222: A massage parlour in a mall on the second floor. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7. 30 pm. Pricing for massage and sex is 50 000/20 min, 100 000/30 min and 150 000/60 min. 5 girls in regular working uniform.
- Avenida Carrera 14 (Av. Caracas) # 58-16. A bar on the second floor, 5 average girls. Open daily from 10 am till 9 pm and pricing is 20 000/20 min.
- [B]Sex on the Way [/B]Carrera 9 #57-76. Open daily from 10 am till 8 pm. Clean facilities and 9 girls, but way more expensive than the others. 60 000/20 min, 90 000/30 min and 120 000/60 min.
- [B]Lewinski Bar [/B]Calle 57 #9-35. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 9 pm. Pricing is 30 000/30 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. Clean facilities, 6 girls.
- [B]Alisch Spa [/B]Carrera 17 # 53-36. Open from Monday till Saturday from 10 am till 8 pm. Pricing is 30 000/20 min, 40 000/30 min and 70 000/60 min. There is sauna and Jacuzzi available. 4 girls.
[B]NIGHT CLUBS IN CHAPINERO[/B]
You are looking for a night brothel, don't want any more the high end clubs from the Northern Area with overrated prices, but don't want also to take risks in the infamous Zona de Tolerencia, here a great advice, there are 2 great night clubs in the Chapinero area: Pussy House and La 49. I always had very good experiences here, expect good service.
[B]Pussy House [/B]Calle 61 #13-64. Open from 5 pm till 2 am from Monday till Saturday. No cover. The neighborhood looks unsafe, no sign, but everything looks better once inside. The first floor is a stripclub with pole dance, bar, you shaped sofas. The second floor is a nightclub where couple dance on salsa music. Rooms are in the third and fourth floor. There are 30 to 50 girls between 20 and 30 years old. No cover, cheap drinks, 120 000 for an exit fee but most go to the room, pricing is 70 000/30 min. A private strip dance is 40 000. As drinks are cheap, you can stay here, drink and have fun all night, no need to worry for the final bill. It's a popular club and there are a lot of clients on Friday and Saturday.
There are a few low level night clubs in the area taking advantage of the popularity of Pussy House.
- [B]Las Divas[/B]Calle 61 # 13-81, just in front of Pussy House. Open daily from 1 pm till 2 am. . Pricing is 50 000/20 min. A strip club with some rougher atmosphere. No cover. There are some 20 average girls here, not at the level of Pussy house.
- [B]Salome [/B]Calle 64 # 13-88. Open daily except Sunday from 1 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min, 50 000/30 min and 60 000/60 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
- [B]Nueva Pasarela [/B]Calle 64 # 13-73. Open daily except Sunday from 5 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 50 000/20 min. No cover and strip show, 10 girls.
- [B]Innova Pasarela [/B]Calle 62 #13-46. More a night club than a day brothel, open daily except Sunday from 11 am till 11 pm. Pricing is 50 000/20 min. No cover and strip show, 5 girls.
[B]La Forty Nine [/B] (La 49) Carrera 13 # 49-77 tel. +57 tel. (1) 2888773 [URL]http://fortynineclub.com/.[/URL] It's a monument in Bogota, with its kitsch facilities easy to recognize on Carrera 13, several movies have been shot here. It has better facilities than Pussy House and is also more expensive. Night club with pole dance and strip shows in the main floor, restaurant and rooms in the basement, mezzanine with a great view on the entire club and more rooms on the second floor. No cover. There are 30 girls between 20 and 30 years old. As prices are higher than Pussy House, there are less customers: 120 000/30 min in the room. It's still a great option compared to the more expensive northern clubs or the less safer clubs in Zona de Tolerencia.
Again here there are a couple of clubs in the neighborhood taking advantage of the notoriety of la 49. The most obvious is the next door club Carrera 13 #49-67, as you might easily enter the wrong door. But once inside, it's obvious that it's not the notorious 49: poor facilities and just a couple of average girls. Other low level night bars:
- Calle 49 # 13-70. Open from Monday till Saturday from 1 pm till 2 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/20 min.
- Calle 49 #13-98. Open from 10 am till 3 pm from Monday till Wednesday, from 9 am till 5 pm from Thursday till Saturday. No cover, strip show. 10 girls and pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]STREET ACTION IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
OK, you start to feel more comfortable with the Bogota scene, you are now ready for the infamous Zona de Tolerencia. It's not my favorite scene, but then again, it's not to be missed for a punter visiting Bogota as nowhere else in Colombia you will find so many sex workers per square meter.
Main problem of the zona de Tolerencia is that everything is tolerated, not only prostitution. There are some real creepy dudes here. It's always busy, there is always police in the area, it's not that you risk your live. But pickpockets, drunk dudes, a trans that start a scandal, claiming money for a blowjob he never gave. Enough possible experiences that might ruin your stay.
My advice would be to visit the area first during daytime and get used to the area. By night, don't walk outside the main block where there is police presence and bouncers. If you are drunk, you should definitely not walk outside, do everything with a taxi. Best would be anyway not to drink and have a wingman by night.
On daytime, you can easily take the Transmilenio and get out at station Calle 22. You will notice the building of La Piscina, Zona de Tolerencia is behind that building: Carrera 15,16 why 16 A between Calle 23 and 24.
Street action starts at 9 am and ends at 3 am. At peek time, there are probably 200 girls waiting in front of the numerous motels. Typical motels are Doll House, Las Vegas, El Encanto, Pasada Nare, Manizales. There are also numerous smaller bars where girls hang out for a short time in the nearby motel.
Pricing is 20 000 till 30 000 plus 7 000 for the room. As the girls are waiting in front of motels or inside bars, you might easily mistake it for a brothel or a club. There is a huge difference however, the girls are not working for the motels or the bars, don't decline ID to them unlike what is happening in brothels and clubs. Therefore, robbing, rip off or simply bad service is much more likely with street action. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, some good looking. To be honest, I can't report about the service, but don't expect more than mechanic and unhygienic sex. I therefore won't advice this scene, as you can get much better service in a much safer environment for the same cost in the numerous day brothels of Chapinero.
There is also street action in the peripheral area of Zona de Tolerencia. Needless to say, don't walk in this area by night. South of the Zona de Tolerencia, which means between calle 23 and calle 19 is the TV and other monsters area. Be very careful here!
On the other side of Caracas, there is another street action area, on Carrera 13 why Carrera 13 A between Calle 24 and Calle 18. This is the area of the ugly old women. They usually wait in front of a house or a building's door. If this is your way of having fun, pricing are as low as 20 000. Again, I can't and don't want to report about quality of service.
[B]CLUBS IN ZONA DE TOLERENCIA[/B]
Apart from street action, the Zona de Tolerencia has the highest density of brothels and clubs of Bogota, you can literally have sex 24 hours a day 7 days a week, therefore it is very popular. It's not my favorite scene, girls who work here are hard core pro's. It's not exactly the place where you might find your shy innocent student working occasionally here to pay her bills. But then again, it's maybe not what you are looking for. If you are looking for your hot and nasty "bomba Latina" with fake boobs giving great PSE, here is the place to be. Average age between 20 and 30 years old.
The next issue is safety. Again, I would recommend to visit it first during day time. On night time, watch your back. Having said this, the clubs inside are safe, so it's perfectly safe to come and go with taxi and enter directly in any of the clubs. All clubs have rooms but there is also the option to go out for all night for 200 000 up to 400 000. There is no bar fee, therefore you will notice that girls switch from one club to another during the night. I would however not suggest to come and look for your princess of the night in la Zona de Tolerencia. Except for the bar fee, pricing for the girl is not very different than in the northern clubs. But by the time you try to take her out for an allnighter, she has already fucked some ten other guys before, so hard to expect GFE from her after.
Girls have no contract with the club, they can come and go during the night, hop from one club to another. They only have to decline ID to check if they are not minor. They have a locker, the club keeps the money of the sessions and at closing time give the girls what they earned during the night: 60 000 sessions minus 7 000 of each room plus pole dance tips.
There are day clubs, nightclubs and even clubs that start after midnight when most clubs close till next morning when the first clubs open again.
The landmark is the famous [B]La Piscina[/B] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/La-Piscina-...4720090119266/[/URL] Carrera 15 # 23-64, no cover. Open daily from 1 pm till 3 am. As it is on Caracas, you can actually access the club without even entering the Zona de Tolerencia. They have a private and safe parking lot. This is the most famous brothel of Colombia, several movies have been shot here. The swimming pool is a nice deco, but is not for using as. Nice and calm place with strip shows around the swimming pool and rooms upstairs. Nice girls also but usually the quantity is a bit disappointing, usually a dozen. Pricing is more than the other clubs, 120 000/30 min. You can actually exit on both side of the club, which is to say Caracas and Carrera 15, which is directly in the Zona de Tolerencia.
[B]El Castillo[/B] Calle 23 # 14-19 was the best and most expensive club of Santa Fe. But it's definitively closed as owners are in jail for narco traffic.
Most clubs have obvious signs and strip shows here the list of clubs in the order of the walking path to visit Zona de Tolerencia, starting from the entrance between la Piscina and El Castillo. Expect the unfriendly knocking at the door to notify that time of session is running up.
[B] Ibiza [/B]Calle 23 #14-29. Open daily between 8 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]California Night Club [/B]Calle 23 #15-22. Open from Thursday till Saturday between 2 am and 10 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
- Calle 23 # 16-02. Open daily between 3 pm and 2 am. A club on the corner. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
- [B]Punto de Oro [/B]Carrera 16 #23-01, on the other corner. Open daily between 10 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 15 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
Here, turn right into Calle 16 A, the busiest street of Zona de Tolerencia secured and closed to traffic by night with police presence and bouncers.
[B]Atunes [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-19. This is the temporary location of Atunes, as the historical one on Carrera 16 a # 23-88 has been closed by authorities. As Atunes did a great job on the deco, there is even a huge aquarium, it looks like this temporary location might be for long term. Open daily between 10 a m and 8 pm. No cover, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/20 min in the room. It's probably the most popular brothel after El Castillo. It's also not so noisy and dark as the other clubs, a nice place to have a bear and relax.
[B]Eclipse [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-32. It's one of the 4 after hour clubs. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Venus [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-43. Open daily between 2 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 60 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Fiebre Sex [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-50. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Fiebre-Sex-846028748743688/.[/URL] Open daily between 1 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Las Paisas[/B] Carrera 16 A # 23-58. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Paisas-Club/187764624697832.[/URL] Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 30 girls, pricing 60 000/30 min in the room.
[B]Apollo [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-59. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Guau Night Club [/B]Carrera 16 A # 69. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]La Casona [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-76. Open daily between 4 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Kiss [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-89. Open daily between 2 am and 8 am. No cover, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Atonys [/B]Carrera 16 A # 23-88. Open daily between 12 am and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 20 girls, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room. Actually it's the historic location of Atunes, started under new management.
Turn right on Calle 23 and again right on Carrera 16.
[B]Troya[/B] Carrera 16 # 23-89. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/Troya-Night-CLUB-343205905774849/.[/URL] Open daily between 2 pm and 3 pm. No cover, strip shows, 40 girls, pricing 60 000/20 min in the room. One of the better clubs, on Friday and Saturday it's packed and there is a cover fee of 10 000 to limit the customers. Actually it has also an entrance on Carrera 16 A where there is a parking.
[B]Lion [/B]Carrera 16 #23-51. Open daily between 3 pm and 3 am. No cover, strip shows, 10 girls, pricing 60 000/20 min in the room. It's a new club, it has potential to grow.
Around the Zona de Tolerencia, on the other side of the Transmilenio, there are a couple of other brothels just for the record. It's OK to visit on day time, on night I would not recommend this remote area. Anyway, they are also not worth it.
- Carrera 10 # 19-38. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Pricing is 40 000/20 min in the room. 10 girls.
- [B]Cara Show [/B]Carrera 8 #19-31 Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. No cover, strip show. Pricing si 40 000/20 min. 10 girls.
- [B]La 15 [/B]Carrera 10 #15-13. Open daily from 10 am till 3 am. Stripshow, 10 average girls. Pricing is 40 000/20 min.
[B]CLUBS IN PRIMER DE MAYO[/B]
Although it's the second most important prostitution area of Bogota after the Zona de Tolerencia, no one had ever reported this scene on ISG until why accidentally discovered it when visiting a swinger club in the area. As usual, World Travel 69 did a great investigation job to update his map will all the brothels of this area.
Truth is that Primer de Mayo is far south of the city, but it's also the most important rumba area of Bogota after Zona T. The area however is way not as safe as Zona T as we are in the south of the city. Watch your back here, even if the area is busy on night time due to the numerous regular night clubs, casinos and bars.
All these brothels are strip clubs with obvious signs. However, the scene is confusing as it's not easy to make the difference between a brothel, a strip club without sex (called "barra why tanga' such as Midas, barra la you, Barra la Tanga, Tantalos, Tanga why Aroma, Faraonas). A regular disco and a gay club. If you have a doubt, just ask to the bouncer if it is a "barra why tanga" (strip club without sex) or a whiskeria (brothel).
The scene is along Avenida Prime de Mayo between Carrera 68 and Avenida de Cali. A Milestone is the Mac Donald. Stay on the side of the Mac Donald, as on the other side of the boulevard is the gay sector and some can be aggressive.
Would I recommend it? Well, it's not my favorite scene, but if you like Zona de Tolerencia, you will like Primer de Mayo. The atmosphere in this neighborhood is different, there is no street action and day action but once in the clubs, facilities, girls and service are similar to Zona de Tolerencia, Angelos being the Castillo and Guadalajara being the Troya of Primer de Mayo. The girls are between 20 and 30 years old, from average to nice. Service is mechanical, BBBJ and DFK are not included. After 15 min, they start to knock on the door to indicate that time is running up.
Payment to go the room is upfront at the bar. Taking the girl out of the club costs 80 000 for the club and the girl will ask 200 000-400 000 for the "night" whatever it means.
Starting from Carrera 68 to Avenida de Cali:
[B]Los Angeles VIP [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #68 I-21, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. It's an upscale stripclub, no cover, open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. If facilities are great, there are only 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min in the room.
[B]Pasarela Show [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-28. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Coliseo [/B]Romano Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-30. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Fiebre [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-42. Open daily from 5 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show. 10 girls, pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Castle Blue [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69-46. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Guadalajara [/B]Av 1 de Mayo #69 B-53, on the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. Open daily from 7 pm till 5 am. No cover, strips show. One of the best, 20 girls. Pricing is 70 000/20 min in the room.
[B]La Terrazza [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69-60 on second floor. Open daily between 8 pm and 3 am. No cover, 20 girls, mostly Venezuelan, pricing 50 000/20 min in the room.
[B]Texas[/B] . Avenida Primero de Mayo # 69 b 51. No cover, strip show. Open daily except Sunday from 8 pm till 5 am. Pricing is 50 000/30 min. 30 girls.
[B]Flowers [/B]Carrera 69 c #Avenida 1 de Mayo-35. No cover, strip show. Open daily between 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 120 000/30 min. 30 girls.
[B]Pereira [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-16. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Angelos [/B][URL]http://www.angelos.com.co/[/URL] Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-20. Open daily from 7 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow. The most upscale club in the area with impressive facilities. However just 10 girls. Pricing is 120 000/30 min.
[B]Septimo Cielo [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-28. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 7 pm till 4 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Azafatas [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-58. No cover, strip show. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, strip show, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Moroco [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-69. On the wrong side of Primer de Mayo. No sign, just a door with stairs to the first floor. Open daily from 10 am till 5 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Happy Night [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo #69 C-68. Open daily from 8 pm till 6 am. No cover, stripshow, 10 girls. Pricing is 50 000/20 min.
[B]Orquideas VIP[/B] . Avenida Primero de Mayo # 69 b 51. No cover, strip show. Open daily except Sunday and Monday from 8 pm till 3 am. Pricing is 60 000/20 min. 20 girls.
[B]REST OF BOGOTA SOUTH[/B]
Most people of Bogota Norte would never go to Bogota South, except for the highways leading to Melgar and Villavicencio, Mundo Aventura and Primer de Mayo. It's the poorest and also the most dangerous part of the city. Here is however where the majority of people from Bogota live. If this FAQ list probably 95% of brothels in Santa Fe and north of it, South Bogota, except for Primer de Mayo is widely unexplored. Does it matter as 99% of visitors will never come to this side of the city? Here however a couple of places listed. Needless to say, none of them are worth to go so far south, it's just for the record. Be very alert in this area, only use taxi to go from one place to another.
- [B]Mizuki Spa [/B]Transversal 52 # 1 b -34. A new place, only 2 month. Open daily except Sunday from 10 am till 7 pm. Massage parlor with nice facilities: sauna, Jacuzzi. Only 2 girls, but the place has potential. Pricing is 100 000/60 min.
- [B]Adriana y sus golosas [/B] Autosur Diagonal 45 a Sur #51 d-43 apto 201.
[URL]https://www.adrianaysusgolosas.net/.[/URL] Open daily from 8 am till 9 am except Wednesday and Sunday till 7 pm. 5 girls, pictures are on the website. There is no line-up, Adriana shows the 5 available girls on a laptop. It's the only place I know in Bogota where you have to pay 10 000 if you don't go with a girl. Pricing is 60 000/15 min, 80 000/30 min, 130 000/60 min.
- [B]Amsterdam Club[/B]Diagonal 46 sur # 52 see 57. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 7 pm. 3 girls that perform a lapdance during the line-up. Pricing is 33 000/20 min, 53 000/30 min and 80 000/60 min.
- [B]Yela Spa[/B]Calle 48 AS #25-12. Open daily except Sunday from 9 am till 8 pm. 3 girls in a spa. Pricing is 33 000/20 min, 53 000/30 min and 80 000/60 min. Payment is before line-up but money back if you decide not to go for any.
[B]THE SWINGER SCENE[/B]
I lost interest in the mongering scene as paying for sex seems ridiculous when living in Colombia. I however missed the thrill of the underworld scene, and discovered the swinger scene of Bogota. The great thing about the swinger scene is that you have sex with women that really enjoy sex and don't do it just for the money.
I know most punters are not interested in swinging. But give it a try, instead of bringing your pro to a motel, go with her to a swinger club. You will not have sex only with her, but also with other women. Swinger clubs that are open to single men will usually throw a couple of single pro in the crowd so that sex is guaranteed even for single men. The good thing is that with presence of working girls, the horny single males are busy and leave the couples and single amateur girls in peace, which makes it much easier to fuck a non pro. You should not be shy however for nudity and having sex in public, as the rooms are always open. If I have to recommend only one swing club, it would be without doubt Monasterio, my second home.
For those who have some experience of swinger in Europe or the US, here a couple of differences with the swinger scene in Colombia:
- Nudity is not natural for Colombians. You will often see girls having sex with their clothes on.
- On average, people look better than the average swing public in Europe. Colombian women just take more care of themselves even when older.
- Colombians need alcohol to lose their inhibition. In most clubs you are supposed to buy a bottle, not a glass of alcohol. At the beginning of the evening, most people have their clothes on and they take it of only once they are enough drunk, say midnight. Before midnight things go real slow in most clubs, you might even believe you are in the wrong place.
- Fun for Colombians means not just sex, it means socializing together, making jokes, dancing and drinking. Atmosphere is therefore way better than in European swing clubs where people just fuck silently and I would say sadly.
- There are no condom dispensers in clubs, you can only buy them at the bar. Condoms are often forgotten in the heat of the action even with complete strangers.
- Colombians hate to go out alone. When the clubs are open to man alone, there are lot less men alone than you might experience in Europe, which gives it of course a much better women / man ratio.
- Swing is not natural for the Colombian macho, the vast majority of couples simply love to have sex in the middle of other couples, flirting a bit with the couples around but no real interchange of couples. There are swingers of course, but you have to find them in the crowd.
- Those who are real swingers are in fact mostly not real couples, except elder couples. Most prefer to swing with a friend than with the real partner.
- It is common to socialize and interchange phone numbers with other couples, mainly to be part of the swing network that organize private events in Fincas outside Bogota, but also to find a swinger buddy.
From north to south which is roughly also from best to worth:
[B]Monasterio[/B] Carrera 14 A 83-44 in the heart of la Zona T. Credit cards are not accepted. Open every day except Sunday as follow:
Monday breakfast gang bang with single girls available 8 am 1 pm 70 000 for single men, 40 000 for couples.
Tuesday tantric for couples only (massage, candles, etc). 60 000 for couples.
Wednesday 2 pm 9 pm mixed with single girls available 70 000 for single men, couples gratis.
Thursday 5 pm 1 am mixed with single girls available 80 000 for single men, 60 000 for couples.
Friday 8 pm 3 am couples only 80 000.
Saturday 8 pm 3 am couples only 80 000.
The closest Parking would be from the Carulla nearby. It used to call Bliss, then Tabu, was closed and has reopened managed by a swing couple until Viviana recently took the management.
It is simply my preferred place, especially Viviana took over the manegement. Although it's small, it has simply the best facilities, on German FKK level. Everybody has to change in the locker area. If men have the typical towel and sandals, girls receive clothes depending the theme: pijama party, Hawaiian party, nurse etc. Girls love the concept. The nightclub is small, the action area is much bigger and there is a great clean jacuzzy, a sauna and hammam. The atmosphere is great, people have great fun dancing half naked in interact easily as the place is very small.
Since Viviana took it over, atmosphere is way hotter. Viviana has a huge network in the local swing world, including single girls. When it's open for single men, sex is nearly guaranteed, as Viviana will always bring a couple of single girls. Viviana put great efforts that everyone interacts with everyone and if it's your first time she will start to introduce you to all the attendees. Everyone speaks with everyone, everyone has fun with everyone and it's hard not to get sex even for single men. Viviana always has great ideas to entertain the attendees. She has recently installed a gloryhole and bring people inside to explain how it works, throw foam on the naked girls body, brings strippers in with full sex show, organizes 4 or 6 hands massage and so on. Her best events are once every three months, the world's unique inverse gang bang where any single men is gang banged by 10 girls at a time. This is the craziest night you can imagine, a once in a lifetime experience.
[B]Spa SW[/B] [URL]http://swingerbogota.com[/URL] Carrera 14 #80-25 close to Andres DC in Zona T with parking right nextdoor. It's open from Wednesday till Saturday from 6 pm till 2. 30 pm. Only for couples. After 10 pm there is a cover of 60 000. You have to drink for a minimum of 100 000. Credit cards accepted.
The place is upscale, on the first floor a nightclub, on the second floor a huge Jacuzzi and very small sauna and on the last floor the action area with a couple of huge beds. There is nobody on Wednesday and Thursday, on Friday and Saturday it's packed.
Everybody comes before 10 pm because of the cover and is in the nightclub area, drinking and dancing with clothes on as in any other nightclub. On midnight there is a couple giving a strip-tease show and after the show everybody moves to the action room. At the beginning it is a strange atmosphere, most people are still with clothes, very few having action. Later at night clothes are off (at least in underwear, as it is common for girls to have sex with underwear). It looks like a huge orgy, but it is not. Most are just having sex with their partner, being at a few of cm from another couple having sex is enough thrill for most.
The Jacuzzi area although great is hardly used. Truth is that it is not very convenient; the dressing room is at the entrance of the club. Nobody wants to cross the night club full of dressed people with just a towel and sandals.
The place is not really my favorite, it's the typical upscale club with arrogant people from the higher class who believe they are cool and modern by visiting a swing club while they are in fact not real swingers. Other thing that I don't like, is that people throw their condoms and papers on the floor while a poor cleaning girl has to pick it up all night long.
[B]Interspa [/B][URL]www.intersw.com[/URL] Carrera 18 #78-50, close to Unilago, at walking distance of Spa SW. Open Thursday till Saturday from 8 pm till 2. 30 am. On Thursday it's also for single men, the other days only for couples. Same price as Spa SW. Valet parking. Credit Cards accepted.
It's a very similar club to Spa SW, upscale with a huge nightclub on the first floor and the wet area and action area on the second floor. The Jacuzzi didn't work a while ago, not sure they have fixed it. Similar atmosphere, a normal nightclub till midnight, the striptease show and then everybody moving to the action room. Also similar public, not real swingers.
[B]Europeo[/B] [URL]www.europeobar.com[/URL] Carrera 76 # 16-20 Open Thursday till Saturday from 7 pm till 3 pm. Thursday is also for single men, the other days just couples. Parking is at 200 m for 15 000. Credit cards accepted. Entrance is 75 000 of what 40 000 for drinks.
Although it has been renewed recently, the place is way less upscale than the 3.
First. There is a ventilation problem with the smell of humidity from the wet area. But what is great here is the atmosphere. Everybody first has to go to the locker area, leave the clothes and go for the typical towel / sandals. On the first floor there is a night club with an action room in a mezzanine and in the basement the wet area and an other action room. The sauna and hammam are great, the Jacuzzi just seems dirty.
But it's simply the best swing atmosphere in town, here are the real swingers. People just don't wait the typical strip-tease show to go crazy, its genuine fun here. The night club has a great atmosphere, everybody dancing salsa or cumbia half naked, couples switching while dancing. When the strippers come, it's hard for them, the public is hotter than they are, and women try to fuck the male stripper. I've seen here a wet tshirt contest, men with water guns shooting the contestant girls and the rest of the public. In the jacuzzy, you will experience half a dozen of hands gripping your dick while you are masturbating two pussies on the same time. People have sex in the Jacuzzi without condom even with strangers. The action rooms are small, the couples are literally one on another. You can grab as much tits and asses as you want and yes here couples swing. If you are looking for unlimited sex, this is the place to be.
[B]La Mansion [/B] [URL]http://clublamansion.club[/URL]. Carrera 14 A bis#66-60. It opened again a couple of months ago. Great facilities in a three store building: huge nightclub with pole dance, jacuzzy, great sauna, 2 huge public rooms but also a few private rooms at additional cost as it's also a motel. Saturday for couples only, Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday and Friday for single men. Pricing is 40 000 for couples and 60 000 for single. Great plus of this place is that for nights open to single men, there are up to 5 working girls, so sex is guaranteed. Atmosphere is hot, everyone walks naked and fucks with everyone.
[B]Zafiro [/B][URL]www.zafirosclub-sw.com[/URL] Calle 61 # 15-20. There is a parking lot in front. Open every day from 2 pm till 2 am. However don't expect anything during the week, I guess it is simply used by couples as a cheaper alternative than the motels around as the club is in the middle of the lovemotels area. Entrance 35 000 on weekdays, 85 000 on week-ends open every day also for single men.
It's by far the biggest club in area, but the facilities are really downscale, beyond my acceptable level. People have to change in towel sandals before entering, the social room is a great nightclub area, the hammam is great, also the sauna with a window to look at the action area, but the Jacuzzi is too cold. Actually, it's cold everywhere in the club, you just can't handle the temperature with just a towel. There are numerous rooms, all with glass doors to protect the couples from the single men I guess. Atmosphere can be great, but I simply don't like the facilities to spend some time here.
[B]Piscina Normandie [/B]Carrera 75 # 54-36 [URL]http://www.parejasw.com/.[/URL] Last, but not least, here is the best kept secret of Bogota. It's a regular swimming pool during the week end but a swinger club from Monday till Wednesday from 3 pm till 10 pm. I guess the mothers would be horrified to learn what is happening during the weekdays in that swimming pool where their children swim!
Monday 60 000 for couples or single men, Tuesday 60 00 for couples and 99 for single men, but sex guaranteed as there are working girls and Wednesday only couples for 69 000. There are locker rooms to leave clothes and belongings; the club provides sandals and towels, but most people end up naked. Indoor swimming pool, Jacuzzi, sauna, nice facilities.
[B]Spa Swinger Club relax [/B] Avenida 1 de Mayo #40 b 57 Sur (in front of Hospital Kennedy) [URL]http://encuentrosbogota.********.com.co[/URL]. Tuesday from 10 am till 6 pm, 60 000 for single Wednesday from 3 pm till 11 pm single men 60 000, Thursday from 5 pm till 10 pm, single men 60 000, Friday 6 pm till 2 am, single men 70 000 and Saturday, couples only from 7 pm till 3 am. Turco, sauna and Jacuzzi. Atmosphere is like a cheap Partytreff. There are virtually no couples, mainly single men and working girls. There are up to 5 working girls, so ratio is OK. Everybody sit and talk together, once you enter, just introduce yourself to the others, sit down with them and start talking as if you know them forever. Facilities are poor however, as well as quality of girls.
[B]Theli y Luna [/B]Avenida 1 de Mayo # 69 50 [URL]https://twitter.com/theliyluna;[/URL] [URL]http://theliyluna.co/.[/URL] Open from Thursday till Saturday from 8. 30 pm till 2. 30 am. Entrance is 70 000, facilities not at the level of the swingers club of Zona Norte of course.
The atmosphere is very relaxed, 3 average working girls do their best that everybody socialize with everybody. It's a bit like a German partytreff more than a swinger club. Few other couple, most guests are single men fucking for free the working girls. Fucking 3 girls including the drinks for just 70 000, hard to find cheaper! The sex is very disappointing however, a quick mechanical fuck on street action level.
[QUOTE=Routard;2024429][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 3 years. If you are interested in living in Colombia, here is anything you need to know: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3863-Living-in-Colombia&p=1980490&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1980490.
This FAQ is a complete report about all the mongering options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations, so information is updated and double checked.......[/QUOTE]This is one of the best if not the best post of a city that I have read on ISG. Certainly in the tradition of World Traveller 69. Routard's was among the first posts that I read when I first became acquainted with ISG around 5 years ago which acted as a catalyst to my hobbying. I have made several trips to Medellin but never been to Bogota, big mistake on my part.
Wow! This is probably the best written in ISG for a city!. I was just starting to look at visiting CartAgena this June (would be my first time in Colombia) and your write up definitely convinced me that Bogota would be a better choice. I suggest this article be marked for "Links of Distinction" - not sure how to do this -but may be the admin can do this!. May PM you later for possible airbnb accommodations that you suggested.
Kris.
[QUOTE=Routard;2024429][B]GENERAL[/B]
I have travelled and mongered in 80 different countries, but those who remember me from my posts a couple of years ago know how much I love Colombia. I'm settled now, living and working in Bogota since 3 years. If you are interested in living in Colombia, here is anything you need to know: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3863-Living-in-Colombia&p=1980490&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1980490.
This FAQ is a complete report about all the mongering options available in Bogota. It's not a compilation of info I found in Internet, I have visited all the described locations, so information is updated and double checked. I went through all the locations of World Travel 69's excellent map. Any discrepancy has been communicated to World Travel 69, so info on the map and in this FAQ should now be the same. As info changes all the time, this is the updated version on April 2017. Don't hesitate to communicate any additional information to keep this FAQ updated. If you sum it up, this description reports around 2000 sex works in a shift, which means probably some 4 000 in total. Official stats claim a total of 14 000 sex workers in Bogota, it seems over estimated to me.
Don't hesitate to contact me through PM for a drink and a chat if you are visiting Bogota.
Comparing the Bogota scene with the rest of Latin America, it all depends what you are looking for. My personal rate would be Rio first, Buenos Aires second and Bogota third.
- In terms of looks, I would say Buenos Aires first, Sao Paolo second and Bogota third, but then again it's personal because I'm more into European looking girls.
- In term of ethnical diversity, Colombia comes third after Brazil and Cuba.
- In term of quantity and diversity of options, Bogota comes third after Rio and Sao Paolo.
- Rio has by far the best facilities, Termas being similar to German FKK. Bogota comes fourth after Rio, Sao Paolo and Buenos Aires.
- In terms of safety and touristic facilities, Buenos Aires comes first by far. Cuba is safe, but the mongering scene is legally complex.
- In term of genuine sex, Brazil comes first, Cuba second.
- In terms of attitude, genuine tenderness, Colombia comes first.
I use to say that if you are looking for PSE, go to Rio, if you are looking for GFE, go to Bogota. Why is attitude so good in Colombia? It's cultural of course, as Colombians are genuinely nice people and girls are full of passion and tenderness.
Keep in mind also that unlike what happens in other parts of the world, sex workers in South America in general and in Colombia in particular are independent girls. Organized crime is not interested in prostitution. Narco-traffic, or extortion is way more lucrative. For cultural reasons, pimps are inexistent here, as Colombianas are grown up that men always have to pay for everything. For most girls, prostitution is just a period of their life when they need money, which means between 20 and 30 years old before they meet a husband. You will nearly not meet prostitutes in Bogota over 35 years old. As most girls are independent, it is very easy to get her number and meet her outside the club. I would not recommend start dating a prostitute however. If you are looking for a date, go for dating sites instead ([URL]www.colompiancupid.com[/URL], [URL]www.latinamericancupid.com[/URL], [URL]www.meetic.com[/URL]. ) there are enough nice non pros in Bogota willing to meet a wealthy gringo when it comes up to serious relation. Here anything you need to know if you want to date Colombianas: [URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3870-Dating-Colombianas&p=1983593&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1983593..[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DexterLaster;2024045]In the week I spent in Medellin (park Lleras, the mentioned nightclubs in the area, the high end stripclub in the air hangar near it and the malls I can't say I say I saw any 10's, pro or not. And maybe not even a high 9. But I did see a lot of 8's and a few 9's. And the 8's and 9's are very affordable. If you want predictable results, maybe Mexico DF is a good option for you. The Mexican escort site zonadivas has many 9's and maybe a lighting / makeup tailored 10 that look as close to the girls you mentioned. The links on the right even show videos and candid photos of some of the girls. The prices are very reasonable for what I've seen for real escorts of that caliber posting online in Latin America at 2500-5000 pesos, certainly not $1000/ hour porn star fees. As is often the case for many places outside the USA and Europe, you don't really know what you'll get in a city. At least with sites like Zonadivas you know what you'll can get and for how much without having to be on the ground. I've heard the hottest Colombian girls are to be found in the nicest gyms in their respective city. And that's completely believable since the hottest ones basically live and fill up their Instagram pages from. But they're probably not explicitly for sale. Of course if you're willing to blow $1000 usd an hour some can be had. But at that point you're talking pornstar /"model" money and you can get 10's in any country. Especially Europe. And there are oh so many of the type of girls you posted in places like Czech, Romania, etc that are IMHO 10's at that price point, they just aren't Colombian if you can live with that LOL.[/QUOTE]8's and 9's are good for me, I asked the question of the 10's to get a feel for the rating system guys are using here and also if they're available for good prices that's a bonus but I'm happy with expectations of 8's aplenty at the prices I've seen in this thread. They look like stunners on Zonadivas, I wonder how many are real though and not fake / stolen pics. When I googled it showed Zona Divas videos on Xvideos women in action, unsure if its the women from that site though.
I know what you mean about the Colombians on Instagram, so many and so hot, their profiles are 99% string bikini selfies and almost naked selfies, they're smoking hot but I don't think there's much more going on between the ears though haha as if that matters for an hour or 2 of fun though! I wonder if some of these could be persuaded by the almighty dollar in the right circumstance.
Yes I've heard great things about European women, especially EE, its the destination I'm most looking forward too, I love Latinas and Russians, they both have features and things about them the other doesn't have, now. Just to find a Colombian / Brazilian Russian if they exist LOL.
[QUOTE=Droplet;2023794]I'm planning a trip to South America mainly for travelling. The only flight available is a long stop over in Bogota on both legs. Landing before 6 am and boarding at 10-11 pm. So I have 2 whole days in Bogota.
I been to Bogota before so I have seen all the tourist stuff. But back then I never did any mongering. I have plans to do a proper Colombia mongering trip that include Medellin but this will be another time I think.
Do you guys have any suggestions? I plan to hit some casas before boarding. Now on the way back the layover is on a Sunday. I think the casas will be closed? I don't mind possibly paying a chica for a few hours for her to come to my hotel. Anyone can recommend any chica friendly hotels? Thanks![/QUOTE]Like Droplet, I'm looking at long layover in Bogota. About 9 hours in the afternoon and early evening. Can someone please advise on logistics and suggestions for such a short visit? Will I have time for a girl? Suggested spot, and maybe for food too? Time allowances for making my connecting flight?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=LarryDavid;2024632]Like Droplet, I'm looking at long layover in Bogota. About 9 hours in the afternoon and early evening. Can someone please advise on logistics and suggestions for such a short visit? Will I have time for a girl? Suggested spot, and maybe for food too? Time allowances for making my connecting flight?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]You should be back to the airport at least 45 minutes before. That should give you plenty of time.
There is a money exchange and a couple of ATMs, assuming you need pesos. You can't miss them. In the airport you will be accosted by several people wanting to know if you want a ride. Skip them, they will overcharge. Exit the terminal and find the taxi stand. Tell the taxi stand where you want to go, he will give a slip of paper with the cost.
Where you should go is a good question. What's your budget? How upscale do you want to go? With at least 6 hours to spend, you have plenty of time. Probably your best bets are zona rosa or Chapinero. Both places have plenty of massage parlors and casas that will be open. Both areas have plenty of restaurants to choose from.
Ok, guys I braved the dreaded week simply because my time off warranted it. I will give a quick rundown of my experiences there. Arrived Monday night of Semana Santa, rented a airbnb in chapinero but by the time I dropped my bags and got to the clubs it was already close to 3 am and closing time. So had my uber take me around to some clubs quickly to just get a glance at what was available. I hit the 2 lalo clubs and La49, first lalo club (old porky's) had high ceilings and a more modern vibe than the other one that is closer to parque virrey. I counted 30+ girls many nice girl next door looks and many enhanced, I was the only customer. Left for the next lalo's and same thing 20+ girls, nice ones and I was the only customer. This one had more of a intimate vibe than porkys. La49 had some action going but all the girls looked bored so called it a night and rested for better days ahead. From what has been stated before concerning this slow week, I planned to use the clubs, escorts and amigas from previous trips to fill the week with. I had used the local foro to get info on independent escorts and ended up only needing one Martina. She is a university type, hardbody spinner that enjoys the work. She was pretty much available to me any day of the week including Easter. Just had to arrange it with enough notice. 250 k for two hours of anything goes, all covered, which is always my preference. Used her three times and she stayed over twice waking "me" up with "tengo ganas". Contact at [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prueba-los-encantos-de-una-joven-elegante-sexy-y-servicial-prepago-id-eh2qj[/URL].
Wed spend some time with a girl I meet last trip at a massage place. She says she left the business and will be returning home to manizales. Had dinner and walks with her for 3 nights in a row. Zona Rosa was still vibrant some places closed but enough places open and a lot of foot traffic. Andino mall open all days. Really this area was still kicking all days and nights during Easter, best to stay near here as I changed my airbnb for one closer to parque virrey, walking distance to zone rosa. Eventually she gave in and gave me her all staying over a couple nights on Sat, Sun.
Tue night I went to pussy house and the place was kicking but it has the Maracaibo vibe from medellin. 70 k for half hour. Found a MILF I thought was pretty hot so took her up to the rooms there. Chica drink, condom, time and room ran me 150 k. Her name was Daniela, gave good service but kinda spacey in that fun way. She gave me her number and we went out one night in her part of Bogota, pretty far north like calle 185 by Santa Fe mall. She was a lot of fun to hang with. I was tired from all the pooty tang I did not take her back with me. She was visibly upset but she has been msg me everyday since.
All the chica clubs are open till 3 am and only closed Thursday and Friday. All other days are normal but perhaps slower as people are moving around that week.
Wed night I went to that Zhivago place, it was a little tough to find at first but I really liked it. No pressure as has mentioned but don't expect to be overwhelmed by a large number of girls. I would say keeping the numbers down helps make a selection easier. Many cute to pretty girls but no stunners. I bought half bottle of rum for 200 k and invited a few girls for a chat. I really like that the girls can drink from your bottle. In GDL, Mexico you still have to buy chica drinks. Anyway I really like this pair of maybe 25 year old friends. One was Alejandra which I chose to take out. She asked for 400 for one pop but I countered with 300 and a tip for good service. She did not hesitate although customers were probable at the high point only 5. Exit fee I think was 130 k and they do include service charge. They explained it to me as your drink setup like some all nude places charge you in the states. She gave me her number for further visits. She was not available thurs but was Friday. I spent zero time in centro area all of it was in the chapinero and zona rosa areas where I feel most comfortable.
My week was quite full with one previous known amiga, one new escort, and two chicas from clubs. My advice from this experience is Monday to Wed get out there and do your thing and get numbers for visits on Thur / Friday. Really there is action all other days.
GF.
[QUOTE=Routard;2024429]
[B]MONEY[/B]
The Colombian peso is at its historical lowest exchange value since the oil price drop. 1 $ is at 3000 Peso, it has never been more interesting than now to visit Colombia. Most ATM will not deliver more than 300 000 at a time, but you can make as many cash withdrawal as you want. As there is a fixed fee for each withdrawal, best is to choose always the highest amount. Bancolombia allows up to 600 000 and the green ATM from Servibanca have a maximum limit of 780 000.
Minimum salary is 250 $ and a lunch will cost 2 $.
[/QUOTE]Routard, great post but the US dollar is no longer 3,000 pesos or near it. The latest I saw was 1 US dollar is 2850 pesos. I think the days of 3000 pesos are gone for now. We'll probably see 1 USD be 2500 pesos in the near future.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2024786]Routard, great post but the US dollar is no longer 3,000 pesos or near it. The latest I saw was 1 US dollar is 2850 pesos. I think the days of 3000 pesos are gone for now. We'll probably see 1 USD be 2500 pesos in the near future.[/QUOTE]This is his "updated" report of distinction for Bogota. Obviously he does not have to update everything.
I forgot to add that Wed I went to the swinger's club El Monestario in zona rosa. Single guys paid 80 k for entrance and if I remember right a half bottle of rum was only 50 k. Pretty cheap drink wise compared to the higher end clubs. The place is set right in middle of the action of zona rosa with restaurants and hip bars to either side of it. They have a locker area where you change and handed a towel and slippers. The place is clean and big enough for the 15 people that were there. I sat and drank with the girls that are available for sex. I would generously give them a 5 or 6 but they are fun to hang with. I used the sauna which was nice since Bogota can be cold. For all the swinger clubs in Bogota, my opinion is the swinger scene is still new here. For example, during my time there I saw 4 couples, good looking but all fully clothed hanging out with us solo slobs in our towels. This usually is not allowed in more mature swinger clubs I have visiting in other countries. I felt like I was at a camp for pre-swinging couples. They stayed the entire time I was there and watched the foam show with the 2 girls available. They would also dance but again fully clothed. From the sauna I felt like I was watching a regular disco. I may return for that reverse gang bang but unless your curious. Save your money.
GF.
[QUOTE=YippieKayay;2024786]Routard, great post but the US dollar is no longer 3,000 pesos or near it. The latest I saw was 1 US dollar is 2850 pesos. I think the days of 3000 pesos are gone for now. We'll probably see 1 USD be 2500 pesos in the near future.[/QUOTE]It ll depends from which side you are looking at it. For me 2850 is just 5% of difference and is not relevant as no one can predict how it will fluctuate this year. Would love to see it at 2500 as my incomes are in pesos now, but I doubt it wil ever come back to the level when I did the transfer of my investment to Colombia in 2014:1900 $ !!! That is a relevant difference!
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2024796] For example, during my time there I saw 4 couples, good looking but all fully clothed hanging out with us solo slobs in our towels. This usually is not allowed in more mature swinger clubs I have visiting in other countries. I felt like I was at a camp for pre-swinging couples. They stayed the entire time I was there and watched the foam show with the 2 girls available. They would also dance but again fully clothed. From the sauna I felt like I was watching a regular disco. [/QUOTE]True, these are thinks I don't like too. However I often saw the very same boring couples leaving their cloths after 12 am and especially after a couple of rum glasses and becoming surprisingly wild. Nudity is still difficult for most Colombians and most need alcohol to loose their inhibitions. Monasterio became my second home since Viviana took it over early this year. There are indeed the working girls, but I don't focus on them, I focus on the other girls. It's hit or miss, last time before semana santa when I came with my novia it was miss, but the week before I went alone and had the time of my life. I fucked twice with a very pretty girl in her early 20 who visited a swing sauna for the first time with a friend. There was an amazing chemistry with her, we stayed probably 2 hours together. In that very same night, I went also with another girl in her early 30, it was also her very first time in a swing sauna with her boy friend. We stayed one hour together kissing karessying and masturbating each other. She was over excited, but couldn't go till full sex. After an hour alone with her, her boyfriend became jealous and came and picked her up.
[QUOTE=GoneFishin;2024749]O
Wed night I went to that Zhivago place, it was alittle tough to find at first but I really liked it. No pressure as has mentioned but don't expect to be overwhelmed by a large number of girls. I would say keeping the numbers down helps make a selection easier. Many cute to pretty girls but no stunners. I bought half bottle of rum for 200 k and invited a few girls for a chat. I really like that the girls can drink from your bottle. In GDL, Mexico you still have to buy chica drinks. Any way I really like this pair of maybe 25 year old friends. One was Alejandra which I chose to take out. She asked for 400 for one pop but I countered with 300 and a tip for good service. She did not hesitate although customers were probable at the high point only 5. Exit fee I think was 130 k and they do include service charge. They explained it to me as your drink setup like some all nude places charge you in the states. She gave me her number for further visits.
.[/QUOTE]Great report, Zhivago was my all time favorite, I always had great experiences here. Great pic of alejandra, she is exactly my type of girl.
Thanks Routard, for your expert comments. Hope to hook up with you next time I'm in BOG.
One last thing, the horrendous Bogota traffic was non-existence on Thur-Friday of Easter week. I enjoyed that so much I went to explore areas farther afield, like Titan Plaza and Andres de Carne in Chia all by bus. Comfortable experience, my first in Bogota using public transport. Andres de carne is one of those places even Rolos say you must visit while in Bogota so I did and its quite an experience. Its a fonda, a typical rural Colombian restaurant setup. Chia is about 30 min outside Bogota and this is were the original location is found. Its an event is all I can say, worth the experience. There is another in Zona Rosa but I recommend the original, bring a date, its fun.
GF.
Can anyone recommend the best spot for Sunday daytime and nighttime play?
[QUOTE=Packeye;2025257]Can anyone recommend the best spot for Sunday daytime and nighttime play?[/QUOTE]I have read through hundreds of pages in my short time here and thanks in advance all the guys for the great reports and maps.
Maybe Chicas Milenio Casa for the daytime.
And for nighttime Lidos Club in the north.
(From others suggestions buy a drink and walk around getting numbers for the next day).
Chicas 2000 is on the other side of street to Chicas Milenio. And Bar La 70 is only a few blocks away. In my last visit, all three have decent lineup, most are average 5-6, but alway one or two standout I would rate 7 or 8 . The best looking girl in my entire trip is not from high end private club, in Chicas Milenio. A 170 cm 20 year old with athletic body for only 30 k plus 70 k for cola!
Also don't just write off Santa Fe clubs yet. It is quite an experience you don't want to miss. Visit there first during day time to get yourself familiar with the environment. You would be safe even at midnight if you don't wander outside the main streets.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2025272]I have read through hundreds of pages in my short time here and thanks in advance all the guys for the great reports and maps.
Maybe Chicas Milenio Casa for the daytime.
And for nighttime Lidos Club in the north.
(From others suggestions buy a drink and walk around getting numbers for the next day).[/QUOTE]
3:26am and I just came in from Santa Fe. I had been out there since midnight. I am pretty much changing up my M.O. I used to go for the casa girls but fuck that shit. I am having way better experiences in Troya. Paid 5K for a Poker and got a chick for 60K 20 minutes. She was well worth it. Said she is from Medellin and arrived in Bogota yesterday. Her parents think she is selling clothes. Do they really believe that there are not enough clothing stores in Medellin that she had to go all the way to Bogota to work in one? After the deed she took out her package and took a bump. Said whatever amount it was cost her 10K. She offered me some but I told her that she would need more than a body to make me want to sniff that shit. She got all excited and hugged me because I told her I was not into that.
After that I went hunting on the street. Granted some of the same chicks I saw at a couple of the casas I had seen inside Troya earlier. I hit 2 more chicks for 30K each. Wish I would have just stayed in Troya and put that 60K towards another chick. Unfortunately, while I was walking around the streets I saw Santa Fe now has a section with chicks that are not old enough same as Medellin. Fucked up. I am off to Barranquilla tomorrow to spend my birthday with my girlfriend there.
Trip Report.
I spent about 1 week in Bog in conjunction with work. I stayed at the Hilton Bogota, which made a copy of a girl's cedula then allowed her to come up. A big thank you to Routard and others I have contacted leading up to my trip! My first night was with a 23 year old law student I met through SA. She was very GFE and spent the night but she does not speak any English so might be awkward for those that don't know much Spanish.
Second night, I met up with someone from this board and we went to Pussy House on a Thursday night at about 8 pm. It was very crowded and the ratio of guys to girls was not in our favor. We hung out for an hour and then tried La 49, which was the exact opposite- few men and lots of attractive ladies. The only catch was the prices were much higher than PH. For one hour at La 49, it was 300 K, that does not include BBBJ. Neither of us took a girl while there, but my friend did get a number of one of them to meet with another night. We then went to Chicas Mileno, got there about 11 pm and the selection was not very good so I walked back to my hotel and he Ubered back to his. We did meet back at Chicas Mileno the next day at about 1 pm and the selection was much better. We each took a girl for 30 minutes for about 70 K. The girls were cute but the casa scene is not for me as there was not much enthusiasm or passion.
The rest of the trip I stuck to women I met via SA and was very happy with the results. It was my first time on SA, costs $80 for one month premium membership, which means you can send messages and set 3 different locations. Message me if curious and I can share some tips that worked for me on SA.
BOG lessons: Uber is very easy and cheap to get around. Don't expect much sunshine in Bogota. I would go back to Pussy House but early in the week so less guys are there. Pricing of La49 needs to be updated on Routard's report of distinction.
[QUOTE=DrPorn;2027086]Pricing of La49 needs to be updated on Routard's report of distinction.[/QUOTE]Great feedback of your stay in Bogota. Regarding la 49, I seldom go there as it's indeed more expensive as Pussy House. Mind however that my reported pricing of 120 00 is for half hour and that your quoted price of 300 000 was for 60 min including I guess the gringo tax. Anyway, I will try to pay a visit there and check out again exact pricing.
Has anyone visited "Private Apartments" to meet with girls who post on co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]?
After filtering through many options and contacting some via WhatsApp, many of them ask for you to come to their apartments.
I'm wondering if anyone had a good or bad experience, or can shed some insight on if this is a safe option in Bogota?
Most girls seem to say their apartments are located north of the city.
So, I posted this question on Medellin Reports, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. So I've got a few questions:
A.) How dangerous is the Sante Fe district during the day? I'm planning to stay at Hotel Tisquesusa for 7 days before leaving Colombia. During that time, I'll be approaching numerous street hookers and offering an extra 30 k for filming.
B) How attractive are the street hookers at Calle 16 & 15?
C) Are brothels in Bogota camera friendly?
D) How was your experience in the district?
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029072]So, I posted this question on Medellin Reports, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. So I've got a few questions:
A.) How dangerous is the Sante Fe district during the day? I'm planning to stay at Hotel Tisquesusa for 7 days before leaving Colombia. During that time, I'll be approaching numerous street hookers and offering an extra 30 k for filming.
B) How attractive are the street hookers at Calle 16 & 15?
C) Are brothels in Bogota camera friendly?
D) How was your experience in the district?[/QUOTE]Santa Fe is not really dangerous during the day as long as you are street wise--No Girl will do porn for $12-- At least no girl worth shooting-- And my personal experience is most don't want to-- and I have shot girls here.
There are Many Hot chicas there-.
Absolutely Not-- You will have problems if you pull a camera / phone out.
I love Santa Fe-- I live 5 minutes from there.
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029072]So, I posted this question on Medellin Reports, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. So I've got a few questions:
A.) How dangerous is the Sante Fe district during the day? I'm planning to stay at Hotel Tisquesusa for 7 days before leaving Colombia. During that time, I'll be approaching numerous street hookers and offering an extra 30 k for filming.
B) How attractive are the street hookers at Calle 16 & 15?
C) Are brothels in Bogota camera friendly?
D) How was your experience in the district?[/QUOTE]I'm going to answer see again, because you seem to have a blind spot on this.
Brothels are not camera friendly. It does not matter where in the world you are, brothels are not camera friendly. This means that brothels in Medellin aren't camera friendly. It means brothels in Bogota aren't camera friendly.
If you show up with a full production crew from HBO, pay a large sum of money and procure your own independent porn stars, you can find a brothel that will let you use their facilities, provided they get a free plug and some royalties. Otherwise, good luck.
How safe is any place? Santa Fe is fairly safe for me during the day, but if I was going to Santa Fe I'd be carrying no more than 250 k COP, no phone, no wallet. Nothing but a little cash and a copy of my passport. I would also confine myself to the main streets and pay attention to the surroundings.
It really doesn't matter if you find someone to film, because the chances of you leaving Colombia with your camera are slim.
If you want to come to Colombia to make porn, it's really easy. Rent a penthouse, $250 minimum per night, in an estrato 6 neighborhood. Take out ads in Mileroticos, Locanto and El Tiempo offering a minimum of 300 k COP per session. Bring along the right equipment, cameras, lighting, wardrobe and toys. Hire a makeup artist and hairdresser. You'll find enough to keep you busy and high quality too.
Or you can stay in a $20 per night hotel, carry your camera around Santa Fe, offer an extra 30 k to a street hooker and find out her pimp would much rather have your camera than the 30 k.
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Before you do anything read all you can about Cuba Dave.
Colombia Jake.
And David33 in Peru.
[URL]http://www.ticotimes.net/2016/11/16/cuba-dave-verdict.[/url]
[QUOTE=Hegemon1984;2029072]So, I posted this question on Medellin Reports, and I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask here:
So, I'll be heading to Medellin late 2017 by myself. It'll be my first time mongering outside the USA, and I'm pretty damn excited. However, I've got a PornHub account and I really want to submit amateur porn I filmed in Colombia. So I've got a few questions:
A.) How dangerous is the Sante Fe district during the day? I'm planning to stay at Hotel Tisquesusa for 7 days before leaving Colombia. During that time, I'll be approaching numerous street hookers and offering an extra 30 k for filming.
B) How attractive are the street hookers at Calle 16 & 15?
C) Are brothels in Bogota camera friendly?
D) How was your experience in the district?[/QUOTE]
I came across this agency in the the report from Routard (a real master piece. Thanks man).
[URL]http://amapolas.net/acompanantes-en-bogota/[/URL]
The ladies look out standing with prices ranging from 250 to 350 k.
As I will have 24 h tomorrow in Bogota before my next connection I was planning to order a lady from there to my hotel (will return to Bogota on the 15th for 10 days of full exploration).
So, bottom line, has anyone experience with this site (and its girls)?
I'm pretty sure I did an image search on google of some of them and you will notice other girls images popping up so I remember not trying them at all and just stuck with another one. Try that first as it seemed to work decent for me as that turned me off and was why I didn't even waste my time. If you only have 24 hours, I'd go with the sure thing some other way personally.
[QUOTE=PeterNachtMann;2032496]I came across this agency in the the report from Routard (a real master piece. Thanks man).
[URL]http://amapolas.net/acompanantes-en-bogota/[/URL]
The ladies look out standing with prices ranging from 250 to 350 k.
As I will have 24 h tomorrow in Bogota before my next connection I was planning to order a lady from there to my hotel (will return to Bogota on the 15th for 10 days of full exploration).
So, bottom line, has anyone experience with this site (and its girls)?[/QUOTE]
Hey fellas,
If I'd like to put out an ad seeking a woman or two to meet specific needs: lover, tour guide, dance partner, etc over a few days, which paper or magazine should I use? Assuming I can place such an ad online.
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo.
[B]ESCORTS[/B]
1. [URL]http://co.mileroticos.com/escorts/[/URL].
2. [URL]http://serviciosprepagos.com/[/URL].
3. [URL]http://www.amantesdeldeseo.com/[/URL].
4. [URL]http://www.amapolas.net/[/URL].
5. [URL]http://www.avispitas.com[/URL].
6. [URL]http://www.colombianitasbellas.com/home.htm[/URL].
7. [URL]http://solitasparati.com/9/[/URL].
8. [URL]http://escortsincolombia.com/[/URL].
9. [URL]https://colombia.craigslist.org/search/cas?lang=en&cc=us[/URL].
[B]NEWSPAPERS[/B]
1. [URL]http://www.anunciosclasificados.com....rotico[/URL]s_Bogota.
2. [URL]http://clasificados.eltiempo.com/secciones/erotica[/URL].
3. [URL]http://clasificados.eltiempo.com/anuncios-eroticos/masajes/bogota/[/URL].
4. [URL]http://clasificadosoperacion.eltiempo.com/anuncios-eroticos/masajes/bogota/[/URL].
5. [URL]http://co.clasificados.com/zona/bogota-117/categoria/masajes-131[/URL].
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2034821]Hey fellas,
If I'd like to put out an ad seeking a woman or two to meet specific needs: lover, tour guide, dance partner, etc over a few days, which paper or magazine should I use? Assuming I can place such an ad online.
Thanks in advance!
Rodeo.[/QUOTE]
Hi,
I will arrive in Bogota tonight (Monday) and was planning to pay my first visit to Pussy House. Yet, at least according to google, Pussy House seems closed on Mondays? Can you confirm this? If yes, any other club in the same area you can recommend?
Thanks.
Closed on Sundays only.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.665483110727968%2C-74.09226439999998&z=14[/URL]
[QUOTE=PeterNachtMann;2035768]Hi,
I will arrive in Bogota tonight (Monday) and was planning to pay my first visit to Pussy House. Yet, at least according to google, Pussy House seems closed on Mondays? Can you confirm this? If yes, any other club in the same area you can recommend?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dze123;2028684]Has anyone visited "Private Apartments" to meet with girls who post on co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]?
After filtering through many options and contacting some via WhatsApp, many of them ask for you to come to their apartments.
I'm wondering if anyone had a good or bad experience, or can shed some insight on if this is a safe option in Bogota?
Most girls seem to say their apartments are located north of the city.[/QUOTE]I've had the same experience and am wondering the same thing. I hope someone can answer this.
Hi,
I have been there yesterday around 21:00 and it was closed. So, looks like google was right about this one. Trying again tonight. BTW: haven been to LA49 instead. It was open but very slow. It looks like Monday was not the best day to start my Bogota tour.
[QUOTE=WorldTravel69;2035902]Closed on Sundays only.
[URL]https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?hl=en&authuser=0&mid=1mIZMErk8w3Us_tnZ-lVs6h6kgvA&ll=4.665483110727968%2C-74.09226439999998&z=14[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Samperaand;2036132]I've had the same experience and am wondering the same thing. I hope someone can answer this.[/QUOTE]A lot depends on where the apartment is located. One problem that several have reported, the pictures don't always match who answers the door. Another problem is you have no idea what the service will be like.
An alternative is to find Bogota prepagos who use Twitter to advertise. Better chance to get accurate pictures and you can get an idea how long they've been working and whether it's worth a visit.
[QUOTE=PeterNachtMann;2036300]Hi,
I have been there yesterday around 21:00 and it was closed. So, looks like google was right about this one. Trying again tonight. BTW: haven been to LA49 instead. It was open but very slow. It looks like Monday was not the best day to start my Bogota tour.[/QUOTE]It may have been closed because Sunday was Mother's Day, or it may always be closed Monday. Day after mother's day may have mde it slower than usual, but Monday's are always sliw.
So, I tried to visit again Pussy house tonight. It is still closed and a guy on the street told me its closed permanently. The same seems to apply to the other club in the same street. What a shame. That makes the area much less attractive. Looks like I have to revert to Santa Fee or are there any other equivalent options in the area?
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2036350]It may have been closed because Sunday was Mother's Day, or it may always be closed Monday. Day after mother's day may have mde it slower than usual, but Monday's are always sliw.[/QUOTE]
Is La 49 open on Sundays? The report by Routard doesn't say specifically if it is or isn't.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2036877]Is La 49 open on Sundays? The report by Routard doesn't say specifically if it is or isn't.
Thanks![/QUOTE]I believe it is open 7 days per week.
[QUOTE=PeterNachtMann;2036502]So, I tried to visit again Pussy house tonight. It is still closed and a guy on the street told me its closed permanently. The same seems to apply to the other club in the same street. What a shame. That makes the area much less attractive. Looks like I have to revert to Santa Fee or are there any other equivalent options in the area?[/QUOTE]Here is Routard's everything about Bogota post:
[URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?580-Bogota-Reports&p=1911247&viewfull=1[/URL]#post1911247.
There are several other options in the general area.
One of their Facebook pages says Always Open.
[B]Whiskeria la Forty Nine (La 49) ( Strip Club)[/B]
Carrera 13 # 49-77. 30 Chicas. Prices: 120 k 30 min, 300 k hour. Tel: +57 311 216 39 34, +57 (1) 288 87 73. Hours: Always Open, Best time 2-3 am. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/fortynineclub/?rf=361646787280268[/URL] [URL]https://www.facebook.com/pages/Wiskeria-La-Forty-Nine/556466801142043[/URL] [URL]http://fortynineclub.com/[/URL] [URL]http://datafull.wix.com/forty-nine-club[/URL]#!
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2036877]Is La 49 open on Sundays? The report by Routard doesn't say specifically if it is or isn't.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2024710] In the airport you will be accosted by several people wanting to know if you want a ride. Skip them, they will overcharge. Exit the terminal and find the taxi stand. Tell the taxi stand where you want to go, he will give a slip of paper with the cost.[/QUOTE]Regrettably the days of pre-priced taxis are over. From my experience you stand a 1 in 4 chance of being overcharged during the day, rising to almost 100% at night. (And for those who say yeah, but it's only a few bucks, I've had fares double.) You can try Uber -- the service is as shit but you should know roughly what you're paying in advance.
There are plenty of smartphone apps which will tell you if you're being raped by the Yellow Peril. If you don't have one here's a guide:
1. Make sure the taxi scum resets the meter at the outset.
2. Meter should increment at 1 unit /30 secs if stationary, if moving.
40 km / HR: every 6 secs.
60 km / HR: every 4 secs.
(If its incrementing every second and you're not in a F1 car, you are being fucked over).
3. 4 k extra for the airport.
4. 2 k extra for Sundays or evenings.
On my newbie trip I got in late at like 11 pm and cost me like $25-$30 to North area Thursday night. Same ride via my Uber on the way back to airport cost me $13.50 with the conversion fee added in. I was soooo happy to get into the taxi though at 11 pm since I was terribly tired and the mountain sickness kicked in, but I remember being surprised at the pesos he was asking and even double checked make sure it wasn't like $50 since I was still figuring out all my conversions in my head being first time. The life of the non-fluent Spanish speaking noob. I'd much rather grab Uber next time from airport but not sure how easy that is if anyone had experience at el dorado.
[QUOTE=AddictedToWomen;2037186]Regrettably the days of pre-priced taxis are over. From my experience you stand a 1 in 4 chance of being overcharged during the day, rising to almost 100% at night. (And for those who say yeah, but it's only a few bucks, I've had fares double.) You can try Uber -- the service is as shit but you should know roughly what you're paying in advance.
There are plenty of smartphone apps which will tell you if you're being raped by the Yellow Peril. If you don't have one here's a guide:
1. Make sure the taxi scum resets the meter at the outset.
2. Meter should increment at 1 unit /30 secs if stationary, if moving.
40 km / HR: every 6 secs.
60 km / HR: every 4 secs.
(If its incrementing every second and you're not in a F1 car, you are being fucked over).
3. 4 k extra for the airport.
4. 2 k extra for Sundays or evenings.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sawassdee;1911286]Great report.[/QUOTE]Wow. This is the best, most thorough report I have seen! I am heades to Bogata June 16 to 21. I definately would like to take you for a drink! Is the last place you mentioned parejasw still open? The website is down.
[QUOTE=Bolongo;2037608]Wow. This is the best, most thorough report I have seen! I am heades to Bogata June 16 to 21. I definately would like to take you for a drink! Is the last place you mentioned parejasw still open? The website is down.[/QUOTE]The Piscina Normandie is still open, but with new management, that is why the internet site is down. Viviana that used to run Piscina Normadie runs now Monasterio. The infamous inverse gang bang once every 3 months is now organized in Monasterio.
[QUOTE=Routard;2038044]The Piscina Normandie is still open, but with new management, that is why the internet site is down. Viviana that used to run Piscina Normadie runs now Monasterio. The infamous inverse gang bang once every 3 months is now organized in Monasterio.[/QUOTE]So. The key question is--when is the next one being hosted at Monasterio? Feel free to PM!
Thanks!
[QUOTE=Rodeo9112;2038390]So. The key question is--when is the next one being hosted at Monasterio? Feel free to PM!
Thanks![/QUOTE]15th of June. :)
Anyone confirm pussy house closing?
[QUOTE=PeterNachtMann;2036502]So, I tried to visit again Pussy house tonight. It is still closed and a guy on the street told me its closed permanently. The same seems to apply to the other club in the same street. What a shame. That makes the area much less attractive. Looks like I have to revert to Santa Fee or are there any other equivalent options in the area?[/QUOTE]I know for a fact that it is closed on Sunday's from two past trips. At least that was my experience this winter. I also went on Mnday and it was super slow.
I was in Bogota for business a couple of weeks ago.
Just wanted to write thank you very much all the guys here for your advice as well the maps were a great help.
I had very limited time to tour so sorry I had to copy others recent trips.
I appreciate the suggestions to go to the Mezzanine.
I get there and am looking for door 5 or 6 but, can't find them.
Door 10 sounds like what I want anyways, I go upstairs. No door 10. I walk into 8 thinking maybe it is a combo 8, 9, 10.
I ask the 2 girls where to find 10. One girl says her tits are a 10.
I go out to see around back. As I make the turn around the corner all the door open and girls walk out.
A really pretty one grabs me and pulls me into door 13.
In any event I am in luck she is just what I was looking for.
Short and with a very cute face, looks a little like Selena Gomez with great hair. She had just enough butt to grab but, small for Colombia standards.
She was talking so fast and doing all the hand gestures asking what I wanted. After agreed upon services she was not into talking much.
So my fears of language being a problem did not matter. I think I got the Gringo price of 80000 for 30 min. I thought it was nice and fair considering back home it is like 3 times that.
I thought this place was a good option for a newbie to dip his toe in. Easy access, price, and good service.
If my Spanish was better may have been able to negotiate TLN. Also I would try out some of the other doors to see if more options.
In the future I would also try Seeking Arrangements. And get numbers at a strip club.
And do a stop in Medellin at the Mansion. I will keep improving my Spanish and venture out a little.
Don't know If I was getting the Gringo Taxi price but, was quoted 75000 COP to Parque 93 area.
Some guys quoted 65000 COP. I remembered the hotel I was staying has a for hire pretty good English speaking taxi driver.
He worked in Canada and USA for many years in construction and as a taxi driver.
He said I could give out his number. (he lives in Bogota).
I think his price was fair. 50000 COP airport runs and for guided tours or regular rides 25000 COP per hour.
He is a nice guy and was funny and dressed up nicer than me with a jacket and tie one day.
I did not mention mongering at all with him and walked mostly for that.
[QUOTE=JHappyDog;2040016]
Don't know If I was getting the Gringo Taxi price but, was quoted 75000 COP to Parque 93 area.
Some guys quoted 65000 COP. [/QUOTE]These prices are ripp off. White taxis have no meter, yellow taxis have. The taxi meter shows a number that is to be multiplied by the legal unit price as shown on conversion table that is displayed inside the taxi, plus extra charge for night, Sunday or holyday and airport charge. Average taxi ride in the city goes from 5000 to 20 000. The most expensive you might imagine for a taxi ride would be 30 000 from airport to north of Bogota at night. If you experience ripp off with taxis because you don't speak spanish, then go for Uber.
Good to know, I figured.
Note: my hotel offered 45000 COP each way if I pre-booked.
I ended up paying 50000 COP it was late on a weekend night.
So not terrible considering my Spanish is weak but, improving with more classes.
Thanks for all your reports and advice, next time I will do better.
[QUOTE=Routard;2041640]These prices are ripp off. White taxis have no meter, yellow taxis have. The taxi meter shows a number that is to be multiplied by the legal unit price as shown on conversion table that is displayed inside the taxi, plus extra charge for night, Sunday or holyday and airport charge. Average taxi ride in the city goes from 5000 to 20 000. The most expensive you might imagine for a taxi ride would be 30 000 from airport to north of Bogota at night. If you experience ripp off with taxis because you don't speak spanish, then go for Uber.[/QUOTE]
A very scary situation:
Marine officers are drugged, robbed after Bogotá pub crawl and could face charges.
BY Carol Rosenberg.
Three married USA Marine officers have found themselves under investigation for a night in February that went off the rails in Bogotá, involving allegations they went drinking with some local women, were slipped illicit drugs, robbed of USA Property and landed in a local hospital emergency room.
The men may have fallen prey to what is known as "burundanga poisoning.
[URL]http://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/world/americas/article152948834.html[/URL]
I've done it twice in Medellin. Once in the daytime and another at night. Of course the obvious thoughts went through my head each time. What of it's some guys? Am I going to get robbed. Both actually went ok. The daytime girl was a a venezolana new to the country. She lived downtown I'm a secure building. The one at night lived in a rinkydink apartment. She was ok but what threw me off was her trans roommate. She / he answered the door and hung out in the living room. This made it uncomfortable while we got busy. Aside from that it went fine as well. Don't know how much more of that I'd do. Better to just visit a casa.
[QUOTE=Dze123;2028684]Has anyone visited "Private Apartments" to meet with girls who post on co. [URL]mileroticos.com[/URL]?
After filtering through many options and contacting some via WhatsApp, many of them ask for you to come to their apartments.
I'm wondering if anyone had a good or bad experience, or can shed some insight on if this is a safe option in Bogota?
Most girls seem to say their apartments are located north of the city.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ACMilan84;1998059]Just want to confirm that Hotel B3 Virrey is GF. I brought in 5 different chicas during 6 days, and never had problems. They don't even ask to register the chicas, which is very unusual in Bogota.[/QUOTE]Would you recommend Hotel B3 Virrey? Was the privacy good?
I am deciding between B3 and Viaggio Virrey, which is recommended by Rotard. I think the prices and location are comparable. Viaggio is a hotel apartment so I wonder if it's better for privacy.
[QUOTE=Visionaire;2043105]Would you recommend Hotel B3 Virrey? Was the privacy good?
I am deciding between B3 and Viaggio Virrey, which is recommended by Rotard. I think the prices and location are comparable. Viaggio is a hotel apartment so I wonder if it's better for privacy.[/QUOTE]Privacy? As long as you close the door to your room, the privacy is the same.
Most places will check the cedula of anyone you take to your room. The do that to protect you. They really don't care what you're doing in the room.
What about the "walk of shame" from the entrance to the elevator? I don't exactly want to advertise to everyone in the lobby that I'm bringing a prepago to my room, you know.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2043166]Privacy? As long as you close the door to your room, the privacy is the same.
Most places will check the cedula of anyone you take to your room. The do that to protect you. They really don't care what you're doing in the room.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Visionaire;2043601]What about the "walk of shame" from the entrance to the elevator? I don't exactly want to advertise to everyone in the lobby that I'm bringing a prepago to my room, you know.[/QUOTE]Viaggio parque 54 has a front door person. You need to ring the buzzer to get in, and wait by the front door to get out. I stayed there 9/16.
[QUOTE=Visionaire;2043601]What about the "walk of shame" from the entrance to the elevator? I don't exactly want to advertise to everyone in the lobby that I'm bringing a prepago to my room, you know.[/QUOTE]In Colombia you will always have a guard watching who is entering and exiting, hotels or private apartments strato 4-6. They really don't care if you bring a prepago, they just care for your safety. If you don't want any guard, then you have to go to a love motel. Or a private apartment in strato 1-3 that you won't find on Air BnB. If you need one, just pm me.
[QUOTE=Routard;2044403]In Colombia you will always have a guard watching who is entering and exiting, hotels or private apartments strato 4-6. They really don't care if you bring a prepago, they just care for your safety. If you don't want any guard, then you have to go to a love motel. Or a private apartment in strato 1-3 that you won't find on Air BnB. If you need one, just pm me.[/QUOTE]Absolutely my experience in Bogota over two trips. This weekend I stayed at the Four Points for 4 nights and brought in two different girls, one of them 2 x. Twice it was around 10:30 and once around 11 pm. They made a photocopy of her cedula and we were good. When she left they phoned my room to verify everything was ok which was a nice touch.
A big thanks to Routard for his Bogota guide.
I spent 5 days in Bogota before heading to Medellin for 6. Overall Bogota was a blast. There were so many options for girls in a variety of different venues.
I hit the day brothels is chapinero and they were a blast and a great value. I ordered a few girls from the services and had pretty good time with all of the girls from there. I checked out the higher priced clubs but they seemed like a ripoff but were very nice. It was hard for me to justify paying those high prices when I can get similar quality delivered to my doorstep.
I also went to Santa Fe times. The neighbourhood was definitely a shell shock to me. I've been to some shity neighbourhoods in Philly but Kensington seems like high class compared to this. Don't get me wrong I had an awesome time when I went down there. I minded my own business and kept a watchful eye of my surroundings. I do not drink so that also helps need to be aware of my surrounding. I'm sure I was still susceptible two danger but did my best to minimize it and all went well. I just liked how much action was down in that neighbourhood. It was absolutely Wild and I cannot describe it. I checked out a few clubs my favorite was Paisas. I actually met one in there that I advised with in cheese spoke pretty good English so I decided to take her back to my hotel and ended up keeping her all night and all afternoon the next day. I'm sure this isn't the best place to take girls for Toda La Noche but I had a great time.
I also found a few girls on Badoo the dating website thing. A few flaked but the one I did meet up with was cool and a good time was had.
Overall I had a really really great time in Bogota. I will definitely repeat some time but it is low on my list because there is a lot of other locations I want to check out and I wish there was a beach. If Bogota had a beach and was smaller without traffic it would be hard for me to justify going anywhere besides Bogota. The food was excellent and every restaurant that I would too. Overall the people were very friendly the only negative thing I have to say is I do not like how everyone is obsessed with their image and what they have on and everything that they do. It is my understanding that is the way Colombians live. The transportation is dirt cheap compared to USA Prices. For instance I was in an Uber for about an hour and a half and I think my ride was 12 us. I made sure to take the taxi with the meter and had zero issue with them. It was a shell shocked that no one spoke English throughout the town. So I definitely need to take Spanish classes again. I thought that in a big city such as Bogata being the financial capital of the country that more people would speak English. But that is a good reminder that I am in another country and I am there guest so I should try my best to speak their language. Thanks again for all the information it made my time and Bogota so much easier.
I have found a few webpages using the [URL]google.com.co[/URL] to find webpages for escorts in Bogota. I found its better to use the Colombian Google for local results. I found milleroticos and also this page which looks great. I like it because they have a ¨certified¨ option to see girls that have uploaded ID to certify there photos are real. Also, they have a report button for false ads and also to report girls that are advertising with unreal photos so that there ads will be removed. Has anyone tried this webpage? I am planning a trip and this seems like a good way to find some of the nicer escorts who will go to your hotel room. Here is the link: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/fotos-certificadas[/URL].
[QUOTE=SaraHate;2044447]A big thanks to Routard for his Bogota guide.
I spent 5 days in Bogota before heading to Medellin for 6. Overall Bogota was a blast. There were so many options for girls in a variety of different venues.
I hit the day brothels is chapinero and they were a blast and a great value. I ordered a few girls from the services and had pretty good time with all of the girls from there. I checked out the higher priced clubs but they seemed like a ripoff but were very nice. It was hard for me to justify paying those high prices when I can get similar quality delivered to my doorstep.
I also went to Santa Fe times. The neighbourhood was definitely a shell shock to me. I've been to some shity neighbourhoods in Philly but Kensington seems like high class compared to this. Don't get me wrong I had an awesome time when I went down there. I minded my own business and kept a watchful eye of my surroundings. I do not drink so that also helps need to be aware of my surrounding. I'm sure I was still susceptible two danger but did my best to minimize it and all went well. I just liked how much action was down in that neighbourhood. It was absolutely Wild and I cannot describe it. I checked out a few clubs my favorite was Paisas. I actually met one in there that I advised with in cheese spoke pretty good English so I decided to take her back to my hotel and ended up keeping her all night and all afternoon the next day. I'm sure this isn't the best place to take girls for Toda La Noche but I had a great time.
I also found a few girls on Badoo the dating website thing. A few flaked but the one I did meet up with was cool and a good time was had.
Overall I had a really really great time in Bogota. I will definitely repeat some time but it is low on my list because there is a lot of other locations I want to check out and I wish there was a beach. If Bogota had a beach and was smaller without traffic it would be hard for me to justify going anywhere besides Bogota. The food was excellent and every restaurant that I would too. Overall the people were very friendly the only negative thing I have to say is I do not like how everyone is obsessed with their image and what they have on and everything that they do. It is my understanding that is the way Colombians live. The transportation is dirt cheap compared to USA Prices. For instance I was in an Uber for about an hour and a half and I think my ride was 12 us. I made sure to take the taxi with the meter and had zero issue with them. It was a shell shocked that no one spoke English throughout the town. So I definitely need to take Spanish classes again. I thought that in a big city such as Bogata being the financial capital of the country that more people would speak English. But that is a good reminder that I am in another country and I am there guest so I should try my best to speak their language. Thanks again for all the information it made my time and Bogota so much easier.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. I get there 11 pm on the 16th and staying til Wednesday. I hate that I get there the day after the inverse gangbang! Thanks for the tips as I am deciding between a hotel and an AirBnB.
[QUOTE=Visionaire;2043601]What about the "walk of shame" from the entrance to the elevator? I don't exactly want to advertise to everyone in the lobby that I'm bringing a prepago to my room, you know.[/QUOTE]Patience you young whippersnapper! When you're my age what used to be a walk of shame becomes a walk of pride!
I have mongering experience, and even in SA, but not in Colombia. And I've done my homework but am left with these questions.
My research indicates that Colombians are fussy about grooming and that a manicure is recommended. Can anyone recommend a specific place near Arron Bogotá 93?
It's said too that Colombians are fussy about manners. What's the right greeting when meeting a rent-date in a public place for the first time? If there are any kisses involved are they lips to cheek or air kisses?
I think that an unrushed, GFE session includes sharing the shower or tub, but not all hotels have large enough showers and / or tubs. So can anyone recommend a hotel in a good, safe area with a bathroom made for romance? (First trip I prefer a hotel. If I make additional trips I will likely switch to an apartment.).
Thank you mucho, Bob.
Appreciate any assistance.
Hi,
I am seeking to know where is the ideal place to stay in Bogotá in the middle of the chica action in the best / better part of town, 4-5 star hotel apartment or other.
I speak good Spanish working in Sth America for over 30 years.
The last 10 years in Argentina that was amazing but its now over and not the same as all the clubs are gone.
Any recommendations will be appreciated.
Cheers.
Peter from Oz.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2046630]
My research indicates that Colombians are fussy about grooming and that a manicure is recommended. Can anyone recommend a specific place near Arron Bogot 93?
[/QUOTE]You have a manicure spa litterally at any corner of the town, it will cost you less than 10 000 pesos.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2046630]
It's said too that Colombians are fussy about manners. What's the right greeting when meeting a rent-date in a public place for the first time? If there are any kisses involved are they lips to cheek or air kisses?
[/QUOTE]Usually, first time you shake hand with a girl, and second time you give one kiss at cheek. If it's a date, first time is one kiss at cheek.
[QUOTE=Alliwantislove;2046630]
I think that an unrushed, GFE session includes sharing the shower or tub, but not all hotels have large enough showers and / or tubs. So can anyone recommend a hotel in a good, safe area with a bathroom made for romance? [/QUOTE]
Tubes are in most high end hotels. For example B3 hotel has tubes in the suite rooms. Else you can bring the girl to a love motel with jacuzzi.
What is all this bull shit.
All you need to do is to keep clean, brush your teeth and use mouth wash, especially after DATY.
I have been in 74 countries.
First of all I want to give a huge thanks to boardy Routard.
He was extremely generous with his time and showed me the ropes as a Bogota newbie.
I flew in From Medellin around noon. I already had local currency from Medellin so I can't speak to getting some in the airport but I did see some ATM machines. Getting a cab from the airport was pretty straight forward. I could have ubered it but wanted to see how the process worked. You basically walk out and join the taxi queue. Once in the cab I gave him the address and off we went. He didn't tell me the fare until I asked. Naturally I asked a local what the price would be before and the price cabby told me was in line. I arrive about 30 minutes later at my apartment in Chapinero. So far I didn't get any of the infamous Bogota traffic.
After about a few hours getting settled in I decided I should hit a casa before it got too late. I consulted the RTFF notes on my phone and ended up at choosing Milenio since it got high ratings. I took a cab there but later discovered I could walk. Unfortunately I wasn't able to cosign the ratings. The girls were to too up to speed at this case IMO. Another thing that irked me was that the casa didn't have a set rate. The girls told you what they wanted for their time. Sure the variance wasn't extreme and only amounted to a few dollars but it was there. As it was late and my first Bogota cherry pop I took one for the team. While I didn't have an awful time I can't say it was good either. I went back to the casa during my trip. I tried different days and times but to no avail. I never took another girl from there.
The first few days of the I took to get a feel for place and a lay of the land.
From where I was the city itself wasn't as visually stunning as Medellin but it wasn't ugly. The mountain ranges to the east made it easier to get ones bearings. Prior to the trip I wondered if the altitude would be an issue as I have seen others complain but it didn't seem to affect me. From where I was in the city there were two Exitos within walking distance. The only issues I had were finding decent seafood spots. They were there but few and far in between. The transmileno was also very accessible from where I was and found it to be much better alternative to taxis.
My action game plan was basically casas in the day. Strip clubs at night. And the occasional regular girl if I got lucky (never happened) on one of these apps and possibly a prepago. I also got a chance to meet up with another board member and a great time hanging with him.
After RTFF I decide there was nothing up north for me. I visited as many cases in chapinero as I could not only to have fun but to see what the line up was like and where they were located. The majority of the ones I visited were on or around carrera 15. They were all within walking distance from each other. Often times the guys working for a case would be outside to wave me in. Prices for 30 min ranged between 30 k and around 50 k.
The cases are mixed with mini girl bars that stay open till about 9.
After the cases close chapinero has a few other choices for late night fun. West of the transmileno or Ave Caracas almost everything seems to shut down except for a few swinger clubs, which are worth the visit. Again hats off to Routard for showing me this. East of Caracas I am happy to report pussyhouse is alive and very open. Even the little club across from it is open. About 30 minutes with a girl here is 70 k. Of course you can be quoted higher. Depends on the girl. However three quoted me 70 k and I took all. One was drunk and I I didn't have the best time with her. The little bar across from pussyhouse was much smaller and more like a strip club only. I didn't take any girls from here. The other clubs that were walking distance from pussy house were east of the transmilenio but west of carrera 13th. They were ok but PH is no doubt the king of that area.
The other spot in BOG I was interested in visiting was the infamous red light tolerance zone. Since I was mostly flying solo I thought it best to visit in the day time and return at night.
All I can say is the place reminds me of mad max or some other post apocalyptic film. Tolerance zone seems to mean just about everything is tolerated. From people doing coke in the street to a girl walking down the street with no bottom on. All of this at 2 pm so naturally I went back at night around 3 am. It was just as wild. The only difference I would say is that some clubs close then the after hours clubs open up. The only difference with this scene compared to chapinero is its filled with hard core pros. Now I did come across a few regular girl that I think were lesbians but aside from that I dot think one would find a first timer here.
Besides my excursion to the TZ I spend the remainder of my mongering trip up in Chapinero.
I think Bogota is a must do for mongering in CO.
There was an explosion at Andino Mall. Just to put into perspective the security situation.
[QUOTE=Questner;2049377]There was an explosion at Andino Mall. Just to put into perspective the security situation.[/QUOTE]Thank you for this post. I am currently doing research on going to Colombia & Bogota for the first time. I'd like to believe that security there is infinitely better there than just a decade ago, certainly the 90's.
Is this explosion a one-time freak occurrence now, or something people there still live with everyday.
Yep photopreps. I am always surprised to see this prepago site left off of lists but mileroticos gets a lot of attention. I find photopreps to be superior in almost every way. The search UI and geo location alone have me staying on there.
[QUOTE=LoveAgency;2045192]I have found a few webpages using the [URL]google.com.co[/URL] to find webpages for escorts in Bogota. I found its better to use the Colombian Google for local results. I found milleroticos and also this page which looks great. I like it because they have a certified option to see girls that have uploaded ID to certify there photos are real. Also, they have a report button for false ads and also to report girls that are advertising with unreal photos so that there ads will be removed. Has anyone tried this webpage? I am planning a trip and this seems like a good way to find some of the nicer escorts who will go to your hotel room. Here is the link: [URL]https://www.photoprepagos.com/prepagos/bogota/fotos-certificadas[/URL].[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2049386]Thank you for this post. I am currently doing research on going to Colombia & Bogota for the first time. I'd like to believe that security there is infinitely better there than just a decade ago, certainly the 90's.
Is this explosion a one-time freak occurrence now, or something people there still live with everyday.[/QUOTE]It's not an everyday occurrence. Keep in mind that Bogota is a city of about 12 million people. Last I heard, 1 person was killed and 8 injured. If you take away the explosion, it's not even news.
[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2049354]First of all I want to give a huge thanks to boardy Routard.
He was extremely generous with his time and showed me the ropes as a Bogota newbie.
I flew in From Medellin around noon. I already had local currency from Medellin so I can't speak to getting some in the airport but I did see some ATM machines. Getting a cab from the airport was pretty straight forward. I could have ubered it but wanted to see how the process worked. You basically walk out and join the taxi queue. Once in the cab I gave him the address and off we went. He didn't tell me the fare until I asked. Naturally I asked a local what the price would be before and the price cabby told me was in line. I arrive about 30 minutes later at my apartment in Chapinero. So far I didn't get any of the infamous Bogota traffic.
After about a few hours getting settled in I decided I should hit a casa before it got too late. I consulted the RTFF notes on my phone and ended up at choosing Milenio since it got high ratings. I took a cab there but later discovered I could walk. Unfortunately I wasn't able to cosign the ratings. The girls were to too up to speed at this case IMO. Another thing that irked me was that the casa didn't have a set rate. The girls told you what they wanted for their time. Sure the variance wasn't extreme and only amounted to a few dollars but it was there. As it was late and my first Bogota cherry pop I took one for the team. While I didn't have an awful time I can't say it was good either. I went back to the casa during my trip. I tried different days and times but to no avail. I never took another girl from there.
The first few days of the I took to get a feel for place and a lay of the land.
From where I was the city itself wasn't as visually stunning as Medellin but it wasn't ugly. The mountain ranges to the east made it easier to get ones bearings. Prior to the trip I wondered if the altitude would be an issue as I have seen others complain but it didn't seem to affect me. From where I was in the city there were two Exitos within walking distance. The only issues I had were finding decent seafood spots. They were there but few and far in between. The transmileno was also very accessible from where I was and found it to be much better alternative to taxis..[/QUOTE]Do you mind if I ask what parts of 15th you walked? I'm starting around 54th and would love to be able to just walk house to house like you. I did RTFF but I don't think I took good enough notes.
[QUOTE=StripperMan;2049386]Thank you for this post. I am currently doing research on going to Colombia & Bogota for the first time. I'd like to believe that security there is infinitely better there than just a decade ago, certainly the 90's.
Is this explosion a one-time freak occurrence now, or something people there still live with everyday.[/QUOTE]3 dead so far, speculation is it could have been any of 3 activist groups responsible. IMHO, bombings should be your least worry.
Although Colombia and Bogota are far safer today then in the past, it is still the random muggings that should concern you. Generally, the southern areas are more dangerous then the north but the north has there share of muggings also. Just in the last month I had one girl I know who lives in Salitre was approached at 9 pm, by 2 women with idle chat and then a man appeared and they beat her, stole her phone, shoes, purse and the clothes she was wearing, leaving her in just bra and panties in the street. And just this last week my novias father was shot in the head at 6 pm in his barrio in Soacha, Soacha is considered the frontier area of the most very southern border of Bogota. Only a few hundred yards from the new apartment they purchase in February when he was attacked. He was a good father and a hard worker and now lies in a coma. These are people familiar with their barrios and life long residents of Bogota and they fell victim. The point is to always be vigilant, don't get drunk and be in the street, don't flash jewelry or cash or cell phones in the street. I love Colombia and the people are wonderful but you need to be aware of the few very dangerous people roaming the streets of Bogota.
[QUOTE=LatinaLover#1;2049491]3 dead so far, speculation is it could have been any of 3 activist groups responsible. IMHO, bombings should be your least worry.
Although Colombia and Bogota are far safer today then in the past, it is still the random muggings that should concern you. Generally, the southern areas are more dangerous then the north but the north has there share of muggings also. Just in the last month I had one girl I know who lives in Salitre was approached at 9 pm, by 2 women with idle chat and then a man appeared and they beat her, stole her phone, shoes, purse and the clothes she was wearing, leaving her in just bra and panties in the street. And just this last week my novias father was shot in the head at 6 pm in his barrio in Soacha, Soacha is considered the frontier area of the most very southern border of Bogota. Only a few hundred yards from the new apartment they purchase in February when he was attacked. He was a good father and a hard worker and now lies in a coma. These are people familiar with their barrios and life long residents of Bogota and they fell victim. The point is to always be vigilant, don't get drunk and be in the street, don't flash jewelry or cash or cell phones in the street. I love Colombia and the people are wonderful but you need to be aware of the few very dangerous people roaming the streets of Bogota.[/QUOTE]Wow! Left her on the street in bra & panties only! Sorry to hear about the novia's father. I located the Salitre district on Google Maps, and it does not look more south of where I would be stying in the Chapinero district.
My plan would be to split time between doing escorts, and going out to the night clubs like Pussy House, Las Divas & La 49. Of course I would check out the exclusive clubs in the North Zone, and also safely thru taxi's & uber, check out some select clubs in the Santa Fe district. But those trips outside Chapinero I expect to comprise very little of my time. I would pretty much be staying in Chapinero near Calle 60 & Carrera 13 the entire time. I drink, but never get overly drunk. I know how to walk with a purpose, walk with head on a swivel, and I never flash bling. In fact I dress down and use cheap phones & watches.
From what I gather, the danger levels in Bogota are similar to what it was like in New York City in the 70's & 80's. Too many people, and too few police with slow response times. Citizens who are very aware that a mugging can happen anywhere at anytime of day.
How safe will Chapinero be? I'd like to believe that I could walk from Pussy House the 4-500 meters to my hotel or condo at 3 am. Probably not a good idea though??
I am planning for a few days in Colombia or Venezuela. Coming from Brazil and Panama. I would like to do some binging of strip clubs and TLN company, ideally with a pair. I need to decide which town. Bogota, Medellin or Caracas (VE) or a combination thereof. I want to have lots of action and look for a nice price point where a failure doesn't ruin the time and I can quickly next a dead fish without loosing precious time and not too much money. The rates in Panama annoy me. I want girls who put in some enthusiasm. CBJ is a total bummer, it must be BBBJ all the way, I don't want to see whining and lame performance.
Even though I gather Caracas chicas are cheaper and more eager to please, I got the advice to perhaps not do Venezuela because of the money exchange problems. But I don't want to end up with bad service for rip off.
So, in Bogota, which club (s) should I choose if I have one night an want to get it right the first time? I am thinking of La 49 (expensive but posh and in decent neighborhood). Pussy House is open again as I read on a Spanish forum. I know of La Piscina, Troya, Las Vegas in the Zona de Tolerancia. Chicas Milenio just got a bad review a few posts up. Which of the clubs has the best most enthusiastic talent and the best bang for the buck? Which hotel might have semi-pros right in the lobby? Is there still 1 am curfew where one can pick up a couple of chicas for the rest of the night somewhere close to my hotel?
I am quite confused by the prices. It seems to me that they are now all pushing to the USD 100 mark, which I hate. I hate how expensive Panama is. I cannot believe that Colombia where people are so much poorer than in Brazil ends up being more costly than Brazil.
[QUOTE=WorldJockey;2049410]Yep photopreps. I am always surprised to see this prepago site left off of lists but mileroticos gets a lot of attention. I find photopreps to be superior in almost every way. The search UI and geo location alone have me staying on there.[/QUOTE]It's a new site. That's why. It is the same as [URL]photoacompanhantes.com.br[/URL] in Brazil. Seems like a really good resource. I agree.
EDIT: now that I am checking out that site it looks like it is so new that there is hardly anyone on it! In Brazil this site is stuffed full with putas in every place. This one doesn't even seem to have a Medellin section!
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Even though I gather Caracas chicas are cheaper and more eager to please, I got the advice to perhaps not do Venezuela because of the money exchange problems. But I don't want to end up with bad service for rip off.
[/QUOTE]There are safety reasons for not going to Caracas right now. It's been discussed on the Venezuela forums. Lots of Venezuelan chicas in Colombia. Lots.
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I am quite confused by the prices. [/QUOTE]For independent prepagos it's 200 k or less. I'd say a good 70% of them will take 200 k if you offer (some might say 250 to try to squeeze more). Street meet is between 30 k to 70 k depending on where you go. Casas between 30 k to 120 k (depending on where). Strip clubs tend to be the most expensive option, and many will be straight up ripoffs. You have Bogota, Medellin, and Cartagena. All of which are excellent options. Then you have Cali and some of the smaller cities in the interior if you care to visit them. It's a fucking Safari.
Yes, I know in Panama City all the chicas go for 100 USD. The magical 100 USD is what most latina hookers want, especially Colombians, but like the famous philosopher said: 'You don't always get what you want but sometimes you get what you need. '.
[QUOTE=StinkySquid;2049696]I am planning for a few days in Colombia or Venezuela. Coming from Brazil and Panama. I would like to do some binging of strip clubs and TLN company, ideally with a pair. I need to decide which town. Bogota, Medellin or Caracas (VE) or a combination thereof. I want to have lots of action and look for a nice price point where a failure doesn't ruin the time and I can quickly next a dead fish without loosing precious time and not too much money. The rates in Panama annoy me. I want girls who put in some enthusiasm. CBJ is a total bummer, it must be BBBJ all the way, I don't want to see whining and lame performance.
Even though I gather Caracas chicas are cheaper and more eager to please, I got the advice to perhaps not do Venezuela because of the money exchange problems. But I don't want to end up with bad service for rip off.
So, in Bogota, which club (s) should I choose if I have one night an want to get it right the first time? I am thinking of La 49 (expensive but posh and in decent neighborhood). Pussy House is open again as I read on a Spanish forum. I know of La Piscina, Troya, Las Vegas in the Zona de Tolerancia. Chicas Milenio just got a bad review a few posts up. Which of the clubs has the best most enthusiastic talent and the best bang for the buck? Which hotel might have semi-pros right in the lobby? Is there still 1 am curfew where one can pick up a couple of chicas for the rest of the night somewhere close to my hotel?
I am quite confused by the prices. It seems to me that they are now all pushing to the USD 100 mark, which I hate. I hate how expensive Panama is. I cannot believe that Colombia where people are so much poorer than in Brazil ends up being more costly than Brazil.[/QUOTE]I would suggest sticking to Panama's price point. I have not been to Venezuela, but to all other spots. I would suggest Cartagena, it's boring but is better to certain extent, it may be an optimal city for Colombia on quality and price balance.