Berlin

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph; 1291895]Carena Club in Friedrichshain.

[url]www.carena-girls.de[/url]

Could look like a fun place to go and watch some of the football matches this summer. But is the place any good? It doesn't look too sleazy for me and could be a nice combination of watching football, drinking and having the nice company of sexy girls with the option of going to a room. (I've tried it once in Denmark and it was great fun. But maybe I should go to Artemis instead?)

Chateau Bar in Charlottenburg.

[url]www.chateau-girls.de[/url]

Could also be an option. It is however only open in the evening and night which is almost never compatible with my working schedule when I'm in Berlin. They maybe don't even show football.

I like the size of these places, not too big for a shy guy. And that's why I hesitate about going to Artemis to watch the games. So what are the options in Berlin? And does anyone have any experience with these two places?[/QUOTE]I have been to the Chateau though it was a long time back and late at night. I fled after one beer as the girls would not leave me alone to buy them very expensive champagne. That is the trouble with these places. While there is no obligation to buy expensive "lady drinks" they sometimes pester you so much it makes the experience most unpleasant. Likewise, this is the clear advantage of Artemis where you pay upfront a high entry fee and then nobody asks for drinks and such.

Erlebniswohnung strikes me a good place to watch the football though no doubt it will be quite crowded.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1291900]I have been to the Chateau though it was a long time back and late at night. I fled after one beer as the girls would not leave me alone to buy them very expensive champagne. That is the trouble with these places. While there is no obligation to buy expensive "lady drinks" they sometimes pester you so much it makes the experience most unpleasant. Likewise, this is the clear advantage of Artemis where you pay upfront a high entry fee and then nobody asks for drinks and such.

Erlebniswohnung strikes me a good place to watch the football though no doubt it will be quite crowded.

AM[/QUOTE]I too was underwhelmed back in the day at the Chateau-I did stay for some thrills and chills but nothing special. Have not been back since.

Erlebniswohnung might give new meaning to shots on goal, esp. If packed (as it were).

Aretemis actually fun. It is a good scene at the TV down by the pool, and should you play your cards right, you will have plenty of frustrated girls to choose from DURING the match, as the mongers will be glued to the TV.

[quote=batou75; 1291199]day 1, the massage.

i arrived in berlin and my plan was to start it slow, and since i have never been close to a naked woman while sober before and a complete stranger at that. i wanted to ease my self in to it, and see how i would react.

i had pre booked a massage at kashima. i had chosen a 3 hour tantra massage with bath ritual and nuru summer special. i pressed the door bell 2 minutes before the arranged time, and was greeted by a nice petite woman with dark shoulder length hair. she was to be my masseuse and welcomed me inn and explained how things worked.

after i undressed we started off with a welcome ritual, where she first dis robed me and then herself this took me a bit of guard but i soon got used to the ritualism of the whole experience. we then stepped in to the bath tub together, where she proceeded to wash every part of my body thoroughly. she finished off with drying me off with a towel, the whole time at kashima i never had to lift a finger, she did every thing.

we then proceeded to the massage room. and she started the most relaxing massage i have had. even tho i had a naked woman with an amazing body, massaging every part of my body, even inside my ears, i kept my eyes closed almost the entire time. i was so relaxed i had no desire watching her naked body, i just had to take a peek now and then.

she the proceeded with the the lingam massage. and boy did she know what she was doing, the whole experience felt like going on forever, even tho i had no concept of time during the massage this part must have been 30 minuttes +. slowly massaged my penis, where she took me up to max pleasure and down again, to the point where pleasure was so intense it almost hurt. and at that moment i understood how careful and sensitive i had to be when i later where to massage a girls clitoris. she did this again and again to the point i could not take it any more, and at the moment i was considering about to speak up and tell her to not take me down again. she did not and i had the most amazing orgasm ever.

i took a shower and walked out in to the berlin streets with one amazing experience richer.

day 2, the brothel.[/quote]what is a tantra massage?

what is a lingam massage? (a penis massage?)

what made you choose kashima?

the lady who gave you the massage, was she hot? (i mean like the hot chicks at artemis?)

norjan

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1291453]Hauptbahnhof a completely dead area-noisy construction zone, nothing to do. Better to stay near Adenauerplatz, Savignyplatz,or just south or east of Bahnhoff Zoo, (all lively easy transport near the brothels or Artemis) or further away and more urbany, Mitte or Prenzlauerberg for the hip East. Buy 1 day Tagespass, to get a feel for all, but also you really can bike everywhere. Tagespass 6. 30 vs bike 8-12 so hunt around but you can see more and save lots of time on a bike. Ask at info desk.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your advice. I will try to stay near Adenauerplatz or Savignyplatz.

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1291673]Yes, thats what I did when I was in Berlin recently.

If you're going to do some sightseeing then the day pass is excellent value; however if you're going to spend all day in one of Berlin's most excellent clubs then two single tickets would be cheaper. Don't forget to stick your ticket in the ticket stamping machine the first time you use it though.

As for sightseeing despite being in Berlin for the week all I saw was the inside of the Olympiastadion, the Brandenburg Gate, and the excellent Berliner Mauer exhibit out by the Nordbahnhof.

I had also wanted to see the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedächtniskirche, however I arrived to find it completely shrouded as they are currently restoring it.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your info. Do I need to stamp the ticket if I buy a day pass?

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1292000]What is a tantra massage?

What is a lingam massage? (a penis massage?)

What made you choose Kashima?

The lady who gave you the massage, was she hot? (I mean like the hot chicks at Artemis?)

Norjan[/QUOTE]All questions are anserd at their website [url]http://www.kashima.de/tantra-berlin.html[/url]

I always wanted to try professional, non sleezy erotic massage, I chose Kashima by recomandation of Angus.

You can not chose the masseuse just the gender. And its an 100% passive massage,

[QUOTE=Batou75; 1292017]All questions are anserd at their website.

[url]http://www.kashima.de/tantra-berlin.html[/url]

I always wanted to try professional, non sleezy erotic massage, I chose Kashima by recomandation of Angus.

You can not chose the masseuse just the gender. And its an 100% passive massage, [/QUOTE]Norjan may want to check out my blog post on tantra in general.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?p=158[/url]

Actually you could probably chose your masseuse but you will not have a parade at Kashima. Just if you know of one who you specifically want you could make a booking for her over the phone. All the massages are booked in advance over the phone as generally the rooms are pretty well booked all day long.

Are they hot? Depends how you define the term. The girls are not hookers and thus do not dress that part, at least at work. I did meet one of the girls at a kashima party to which I had been invited. She was dressed for going out that night and while not looking like a hooker, she was pretty hot. At work they dress in a sarong which comes off during the massage.

AM

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1292010]Thank you for your info. Do I need to stamp the ticket if I buy a day pass?[/QUOTE]You always have to stamp the ticket with time & date when you start to use it. If you stamp it in the morning (for a day pass) it is good until the end of service the next day, not midnight.

AM

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1292000]1. What is a tantra massage?

2. What is a lingam massage? (a penis massage?)

3. What made you choose Kashima?

4. The lady who gave you the massage, was she hot? (I mean like the hot chicks at Artemis?) Norjan[/QUOTE]1. I don't pretend to be an expert on tantra, I have only had one very good tantra massage at Kashima and it was definitely a different but great experience. I guess tantra is different for everybody, but it's got a bit buzzed up and now a lot of MP say they do tantra massage, which essentially is not always correct! Tantra means for me a very relaxing massage, a ceremony, that includes the masseuse being naked, it also involves her laying on top of you for a while, warm oil, feathers, deep relaxation where you find your own sexual energy. Again, this is only my interpretation of tantra.

2. You have already replied your own question. At Kashima it is really a massage of the penis, not an ordinary HJ!

3. I have to give the credit to Angus, he showed me the way through his blog, already mentionned here. But I have to emphasize that you really get impressed by their premises. Everything is so quiet and clean!

3. Kai was my masseuse. I could not choose from their website, only gender. I would not describe her as hot, I would probably not even look at her on the street. I'd say an ordinary looking German girl. But again this is not mongering, so I didn't look at her during the massage, only one glance or two at her beautiful body. Definitely not Artemis standard, but I was not disappointed!

How much is the charge for Kashima massage? Where can I find one in Berlin?

[QUOTE=Batou75; 1291199]Day 1, The Massage.

I had pre booked a massage at Kashima. I had chosen a 3 hour tantra massage with bath ritual and nuru summer special. I pressed the door bell 2 minutes before the arranged time, and was greeted by a nice petite woman with dark shoulder length hair. She was to be my masseuse and welcomed me inn and explained how things worked.

After I undressed we started off with a welcome ritual, where she first dis robed me and then herself this took me a bit of guard but I soon got used to the ritualism of the whole experience. We then stepped in to the bath tub together, where she proceeded to wash every part of my body thoroughly. She finished off with drying me off with a towel, the whole time at Kashima I never had to lift a finger, she did every thing.[/QUOTE]During bath ritual, is your masseuse naked? Or dressed with sarong?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1292300]You always have to stamp the ticket with time & date when you start to use it. If you stamp it in the morning (for a day pass) it is good until the end of service the next day, not midnight.

AM[/QUOTE]They have a strange way of representing the date though that confused me at first. It seemed like the day of the week, the week number in the year and then the last two digits of the year.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1292679]How much is the charge for Kashima massage? Where can I find one in Berlin?[/QUOTE]You can google the answers: Kantstrasse 139. All prices are displayed at their website www.kashima.de , I would recommend 2h Dhavala massage for beginners: 170 euros. Angus Magee has even taken his precious time to give us two videos, one Walk With Angus to the studio itself, another one from inside Kashima. I suspect he gets a commision from them, but I don't really care! Just search for them at Youtube. Just for the record: instead of going off at Wilmersdorfer str. U-bahn station, I went off at the S-bahn station Savignyplatz which was closer, just 4 min. Walk from Kashima.

Hi guys. Fellow mongers. I have a special request.

I am visiting Berlin and I am from Vancouver, Canada. I am looking to see a lady with your company. I like a lady with very large pussy lips. Large inner labia."Ich suche eine damen mit grosse Schamlippen". I hope this does not seem like a strange request. Also if you have the ability to search other boards for fkk or angecnys or indy girls that might have this that would be amazing.

Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing from you,

Jimmy

[QUOTE=LeFouDeBerlin;1292710]During bath ritual, is your masseuse naked? Or dressed with sarong?[/QUOTE]Come on, it says right in the text that you yourself quoted that first she disrobed him then herself. Do you think she would jump in fully clothed?

AM

[QUOTE=JimmyVegas; 1292753]Hi guys. Fellow mongers. I have a special request.

I am visiting Berlin and I am from Vancouver, Canada. I am looking to see a lady with your company. I like a lady with very large pussy lips. Large inner labia."Ich suche eine damen mit grosse Schamlippen". I hope this does not seem like a strange request. Also if you have the ability to search other boards for fkk or angecnys or indy girls that might have this that would be amazing.

Thank you very much and I look forward to hearing from you,

Jimmy[/QUOTE]None that I can vouch for but this girl used to call her self SissiBigLips so there is a hint right there.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/W-Sissi-26762.html[/url]

And Angie bei Anette is also said to sport a nice set as is Mia bie Mona Rose's.

[url]http://www.anett-modelle.de/html/angie.html[/url]

[url]http://www.monas-roses.de/mia.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Batou75; 1291199]We then stepped in to the bath tub together, where she proceeded to wash every part of my body thoroughly.

Massaging every part of my body, .[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info sucker, angus and batou, and angus, I will check your blog and your you tube videos.

Batou, when you say every part of your body, one thing concerns me. Did she ever touched your asshole? In the massage, or cleaning or any other time?

A girl once tried to put her finger upp my ass (during sex) and that was just true horror. I'll never forget it. She told me "every guy likes that" but I told her I certainly did not.

I want to try this massage place but if I will lay there fearing a finger up my ass any second it won't be relaxing for me.

So, do the massage at any time involves fingers close to your asshole?

Angus, Sucker or anybody else who had this kind of massage, please feel free to answer.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1293100]Angus, Sucker or anybody else who had this kind of massage, please feel free to answer.

Norjan[/QUOTE]If you do not want her to touch your anus just tell her so during the pre-massage chat you will have. The girls have no desire to anally penetrate you against your will. A standard massage will not include a prostate massage anyway, though in a standard massage her fingers might brush across the anus. To rather a pleasant effect I might add. But if you do not want it to, speak up.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1293102]If you do not want her to touch your anus just tell her so during the pre-massage chat you will have. The girls have no desire to anally penetrate you against your will. A standard massage will not include a prostate massage anyway, though in a standard massage her fingers might brush across the anus. To rather a pleasant effect I might add. But if you do not want it to, speak up. AM[/QUOTE]Angus. I can see where this is going. It is high time you consider a new instructional video, perhaps "Fingering With Angus".

I first thought of "Anus with Angus", butt (ha) that might be misunderstood. You know how many pervs hang out here.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1291664]Was she Karina (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/karina-e.htm[/url]

)?[/QUOTE]Hello, yes I am quite sure it was Karina. H.

I visited the place yesterday and I picked her for exactely the same reason : a bright, genuine smile at our first contact.

I had an excellent 1 hour session with her, even if very classical (very nice pussy licking).

I definitely recommend her for a beginner session (that I was! But it was a long time ago. 24h at the time I am writing this post)

Karina is Polish and has very soft skin. She is nice, gentle and lifted up my anxiety about being there.

Hi guys. I'm much more of a GB guy so this sort of club did not overly appeal to me, however I wanted to check it out as I was with my cousin and he is certainly not the GB type. We wanted somewhere cheap as we had spent quite a bit trying to get to Poland for the football without a ticket. Also I was planning on going to Erlebniswohnung GangBang Club on Tue and really wanted something to compare it to.

Leaving from Alexanderplatz it was a pretty straight forward journey and then about 7 min walk form Viktoria Lousie Platz. One of our main concerns was somehow being ripped off as this concept was totally alien to us. There are similar illegal clubs in the UK although you are guaranteed to lose everything.

We were greeted at the door by a welcoming chirpy guy who spoke good English. After paying €90 we were showing through to the club and greeted by a friendly lady who explained everything in English.

After grabbing a couple of beers we surveyed our surroundings. The place looks like a cheap strip club with girls dancing around the poles with absolutely no interest in doing so. I would later be told that they have to spend 9 hours doing that even when there is no customers. The quality of the girls surprised me especially after reading some of the reports about the club. There were around 7 girls in total and about 3 guys already in the club. The girls ranged from 7. 9s slim tall blonde brunette etc and one 4 Bianca.

One thing I did not like at this stage was that girls get together in corners and smoke and also smoke on the stage in groups. I think it cheapens the experience. Also none of the girls will make any eye contact with you or any attempt at speaking to you, in fact my cousin attempted to speak to a tall beautiful Russian like girl and her attitude was terrible. This is a club where you cannot be shy or offended. You need to go up to them and tell them that you want taking to a room.

My cousins first was Jasmin, she was beautiful and he enjoyed it. My first was Jessica, she was stunning and brought me to a room and left me there for about 2 min. She then came back and said I have a question for you, at this point I panicked as I thought something may be about to go down but all she wanted to know was would I like 2 girls and I said yes. To my horror she brought in Bianca. When you have 2 girls you can only fuck one and the other does CBJ. I came during the bbj as I knew I would not last long first time round.

After a while Bianca and Jessica wanted me to go again, something which I was happy to do as the girls don't normally ask the guys and I wanted to see Jessica's body again. This turned out to be an amazing fuck. I did Jessica missionary while Bianca sat there fingering her pussy. Jessica was screaming louder and louder and I could feel her pussy getting wetter and wetter. As this was happening I pushed her knees further back while Bianca pushed her tits in my mouth, all of sudden Jessica clenched her pussy really tight around my cock and I came straight away. Afterwards I had a great chat with Jessica a really nice girl and this fuck was worth the €90 alone.

For my next fuck I could not decided between the the tall skinny Russian-a.like or a short cute blonde Annette I believe. My cousin did the Russian-a-like but said he did not enjoy it so I chose the short cute blonde, what a mistake that turned out to be. In the room she had no interest in conversation. While doing CBJ I tried to finger her pussy and she snapped "excuse me". After she put the condom on and lubed me I touched my cock and she snapped again with a sigh as she did not want me to interfere with the lube. She declined all requests for anything but the missionary position. As my cock is quite large she would not let me put it all the way in and held most of it back with her hand during the sad pathetic excuse for a fuck. That was probably the worst fuck of my life.

So far we were about 5 hours here after arriving at about midday and the heat inside along with smoke was killing me. Some of the girls were hot but the attitude of some and the atmosphere of the club was a hard on killer for me and I was taking longer to get hard, more than I normally would. For my last fuck I chose Jasmin and I'm glad I did so. My cousin had already done her again and enjoyed it. He also did Bianca which he hated. Jasmin had a great personality and body to match, something which I did not immediately realise when I entered the club. Once again I was asked if I wanted 2 girls. I agreed and she brought in a stunning friend. I did Jasmin doggy and it was a great fuck. After 6 hours at Calagula we left.

Conclusion. This was my first venture into the German sex scene. For the price compared to the UK and other western European countries there is very little to complain about. The staff were friendly and it was easy to say no to the extras and some girls did not even offer them. It is very much a lucky dip whether you will get great sex here or not as this will depend on the attitude of the girls and some have bad attitudes. Also there are no showers here. If you want cheap beer and cheap sex this it but there will certainly be no GFE. One girl told us she does hotel visits. If I was in the area and needed a fuck badly yes I would go back, also if I was with the boys and wanted a bit of a laugh some beers and prostitutes then I would go back, otherwise this is not my scene. Also you won't have a lot to lose by checking this out for yourself and it was not as terrible as some of the reviews I read. Although it seems from reviews there are much better clubs for a similar price which I would be eager to check out.

Long overdue reports from my last trip to Berlin some time ago.

Peilin. Peilin Thai-Massage

I made contact with the establishment before going to Berlin for a holiday and made an appointment to see Virin and asked for a confirmation, which I got. When I showed up, I briefly talked to Virin, who said she had another appointment, and was therefore not able to see me. So much for the appointment. Peilin came in the door as I was talking to Virin, and I chose a massage with her instead. The massage was ok, although the room was a tad cold. Peilin looks like her picures, although slightly photoshopped.

I went to Peilin (or a thai-massage-place) as I wanted a good massage with a happy ending. The massage wasn't bad, but not great either. HJ was ok. Will probably not repeat. No shower available, which was a bit of a disappointment, since I felt like I was smelling of massage oils the rest of the until I got back to my hotel to have a shower. Also, the whole thing about disregarding my appointment was disappointing.

[url]http://peilin-thaimassage.de/htdocs/team.htm[/url]

Nicole. Aphrodite Massagen.

I went to Aphrodite Massagen the day after, as I have been there before and was pleased with their services (see my report on Katja). This time I went to see Nicole. She is actually prettier than her pictures suggest, and she looks great in the pictures IMO. And I have to emphasize that she was also a very nice girl, or at last I had good chemistry with her. I enjoyed myself in her company, so to speak. This was more of en erotic massage, with emphasis on the erotic, more than the massage bit. That said, the massage was good. The erotic part was very nice. During my 45 mins there she gave me a very nice HJ, and after that she proceeded to continue massaging my front, teasing me and getting me ready for another round This time around she gave me a spanish until I came. Very nice, indeed. When I as about to leave she told me that she and some of her friends were going to a club that evening, sort of hinting that we could meet up there. I was no able to do so, as I was on holiday with some, shall we say not so liberal, friends. And meeting up with a erotic masseuse would probably not be kosher with them. I wonder what would have happened if I had taken her up on that, though. Maybe something for another trip.

Regardless, I have been to Aphrodites twice and I've always left with a smile. Will return, for sure. Obviously, no other services than massage, HJ and prostate massage are available. So this is not for those who desire other services. The place is also nice and clean, and showers before and after the session are available.

[url]http://www.aphrodite-massagen.de/galery_7.php[/url]

Claudia. Rheinsberger 78

I also went to Rheinsberger 78 during my trip. Made no appointments before I arrived, but called them and asked who were working that day. There were more girls in the line-up than those presented on their webpages, if I remember correctly. Either way, I chose Claudia, as I had planned. Paid extra for kissing, if I remember correctly. But was a bit disappointed when that did not include french kissing. My mistake, I should have asked specifically when negotiating. Lessons learned and all that. Good BJ. Ok, but not great, sex. The place is nice and clean, with a shower available. Generally speaking, I think this is a pretty decent option for the cost-conscious.

[url]http://rheinsberger78.de/claudia_20_jahre.html[/url]

Hi gents,

Hopefully my report is up by the time you read this post, so I hope you don't mind me asking some questions. As I am going to Berlin in a couple of weeks.

The last time I went (around April-may) , I was planning on booking Ramona from KZ, after having read Charlie123's favorable reports on this agency. Unfortunately, they started their holiday just days before I arrived. I see that KZ are now up and running again, and I am considering meeting Ramona. Has anyone seen her or any of the other new girls recently and if so, care to comment on the quality of service and so on?

I also found some (old, but favorable) reports from Charlie123 regarding an escort agency called escort-sex24. Does anyone know about their level / quality of service these days and if the pictures are real (probably photoshopped, but at least the same person)?

Finally, I am still looking for a place that can give me a good massage that includes a happy ending. I am guessing that a thai-massage is my best bet. I tried Peilin last time, and was not impressed (see my report). I've been thinking of trying Longma or Thantawan. Does anyone have any experiece with any of these places?

I've also been thinking of giving Kashima a visit, but I'll see when I get to Berlin.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;1293685]Conclusion. This was my first venture into the German sex scene. For the price compared to the UK and other western European countries there is very little to complain about. The staff were friendly and it was easy to say no to the extras and some girls did not even offer them. It is very much a lucky dip whether you will get great sex here or not as this will depend on the attitude of the girls and some have bad attitudes. Also there are no showers here. If you want cheap beer and cheap sex this it but there will certainly be no GFE. One girl told us she does hotel visits. If I was in the area and needed a fuck badly yes I would go back, also if I was with the boys and wanted a bit of a laugh some beers and prostitutes then I would go back, otherwise this is not my scene. Also you won't have a lot to lose by checking this out for yourself and it was not as terrible as some of the reviews I read. Although it seems from reviews there are much better clubs for a similar price which I would be eager to check out.[/QUOTE]An excellent description of your visit to Caligular, JohnnyO, I almost feel as though I have been there myself, thank you.

Not that I'm ever going to go there (no showers, that's a deal breaker for me) but was there a time limitation for the room sessions?

Also I really hope you got to visit Erlebniswohnung.

Ableyone.

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1293758]Hi gents,

Hopefully my report is up by the time you read this post, so I hope you don't mind me asking some questions. As I am going to Berlin in a couple of weeks.

The last time I went (around April-may) , I was planning on booking Ramona from KZ, after having read Charlie123's favorable reports on this agency. Unfortunately, they started their holiday just days before I arrived. I see that KZ are now up and running again, and I am considering meeting Ramona. Has anyone seen her or any of the other new girls recently and if so, care to comment on the quality of service and so on?

I also found some (old, but favorable) reports from Charlie123 regarding an escort agency called escort-sex24. Does anyone know about their level / quality of service these days and if the pictures are real (probably photoshopped, but at least the same person)?

Finally, I am still looking for a place that can give me a good massage that includes a happy ending. I am guessing that a thai-massage is my best bet. I tried Peilin last time, and was not impressed (see my report). I've been thinking of trying Longma or Thantawan. Does anyone have any experiece with any of these places?

I've also been thinking of giving Kashima a visit, but I'll see when I get to Berlin.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I can not really comment on the current KZ line up except to say that over the past few years the agency has had the most consistently good reports of almost any agency in Berlin. That is not to say that they are all good, but enough to know that the risk is not huge. As Charlie has recommended, try to make the booking as early in the day as possible and try to secure the first booking of the day to ensure the girl is fresh. If you book her at midnight you have to know that the has done possibly 4 sessi ons before yours and this can only be a bad thing.

As for Thai massage, I have had the best massage at smaller, non-brothel type places. These were places I just found and generally they had no website and were obviously set up as Thai massage parlours. The massage was always fairly good and done by reasonably good looking women, but not stunners. At the end of the massage I was offered a HJ as part of the massage. I think the point is that the more a Thai massage parlour looks like a brothel, the worse the massage will be. So I would say that it is best to decide just what you are looking for, a massage or a fuck. Then pick your establishment accordingly. The Thai massage brothels I think will always be sort of sleazy and the service not as good as you can find in a good bordello, though undoubtably less expensive.

If you really do want a good massage in a non-bordello then I do recommend Kashima. It is an expensive massage but it is longer than most, is a very clean environment and the girls are highly trained both in massage and in treating the customer as king.

AM

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;1293685]Hi guys. I'm much more of a GB guy so this sort of club did not overly appeal to me, however I wanted to check it out as I was with my cousin and he is certainly not the GB type. We wanted somewhere cheap as we had spent quite a bit trying to get to Poland for the football without a ticket. Also I was planning on going to Erlebniswohnung GangBang Club on Tue and really wanted something to compare it to.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Johnny. One comment I have is to ask why, after the girl showed herself in the room to be bitchy, you did not just pull the plug on the session and go find someone else? This to me was the nice thing, really one of the only nice things, about the flat rate system. If I have already paid for all my sessions in advance I would not waste a shot on goal with a girl who was showing herself to be less than agreeable.

But it was good to have a reasonably positive report on this place and I think that your comments about how to act in such a place are dead on.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1294140]If you really do want a good massage in a non-bordello then I do recommend Kashima. It is an expensive massage but it is longer than most, is a very clean environment and the girls are highly trained both in massage and in treating the customer as king.

AM[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.spiritual-tantra.de/en_tantra-berlin-home.html[/url]

This is also good address.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1294143]Thanks for the report Johnny. One comment I have is to ask why, after the girl showed herself in the room to be bitchy, you did not just pull the plug on the session and go find someone else? This to me was the nice thing, really one of the only nice things, about the flat rate system. If I have already paid for all my sessions in advance I would not waste a shot on goal with a girl who was showing herself to be less than agreeable.

But it was good to have a reasonably positive report on this place and I think that your comments about how to act in such a place are dead on.

AM[/QUOTE]Angus looking back I should have, and you summed it just nicely, a wasted shot on goal. Once gain totally new to the German scene and the flat rate thing so was not 100 sure of the etiquette. Now I have been next time I would just walk out on a bitchy girl without question.

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1293938]An excellent description of your visit to Caligular, JohnnyO, I almost feel as though I have been there myself, thank you.

Not that I'm ever going to go there (no showers, that's a deal breaker for me) but was there a time limitation for the room sessions?

Also I really hope you got to visit Erlebniswohnung.

Ableyone.[/QUOTE]Thanks, I was really appreciative of the detailed information on this site and wanted to contribute. Yes I should have mentioneded there is a 20 min limit but I got the impression it's not strictly enforced. Also it's worth mentioning, if you finish up before 20 min the girls will encourage you but not pressure to stay and massage them or just speak to them. If you get a nice friendly one then the extra conversation is easy. One more thing they play cheap old school porn on screens in the main area. My Erlebniswohnung report will be up tomorrow.

Ages since I posted and have had a couple of visits to the capital since. Must point out that that my Mongering to complement my visits to these locations as the main purpose is just to get away from work for a few days, chill out, have a few drinks and meals, touristy stuff and try and fit in a visit to a footy match or sometimes a racecourse.

Am now finished with the bottom of the scale places – was in Cologne just before Christmas and paid four visits to the cheap dens in the red light area near the main station. On one visit one of the girls had a queue outside her door comprising of characters who looked like they came from all over the globe – I swear there was even one guy looked like an Eskimo! It could have been a scene from a sketch from those that wrote Airplane. On another visit this girl was free and won by curiosity I saw her. Seemed a little too giggly and after we'the finished and she stood fixing her hair in the mirror I noticed track marks on the inside of her calf. That was me finished for good with places that are likely to have skagheads. Cologne visits in future will concentrate on the likes of Maryerotica for any mongering and would rather have one quality experience than half a dozen cheap suck and fucks that lead you question ones morals. Someone in a recent post on here said they felt guilty when they found that one of the girls they saw was doing it to improve the standard of life for her children. To be honest, I'the have no guilt at all over that but I do draw the line when they need money for Heroin and will do my best to avoid in future.

Hamburg in April saw visits to two places around the Reeperbahn – healthy looking lucid ladies but service not too special. Did knock on the door of a Cinema orgy place in the upmarket suburb of Eimsbuttel but left quickly when no one answered as respectable looking neighbours were walking past with their families and it was a bit embarrassing.

Right, to Berlin – was there in the first week in February when on one day it went as low as – 14 at noon. Paid three visits to Liberty and one to Salon Prestige. I believe they are in the same ownership but I tend to find Liberty superior and am surprised that a few on here seem to think that Prestige is at least the equal if not better. Was very disappointed with the Prestige visit. The girl I chose was ultra mechanical and wooden. Just one of those occasions were you don't click. Can't remember her name and not even sure if she is on the website. Light brown long hair, slim mid-twenties, one tattoo.

My three visits to Liberty gladly produced better results. On the first occasion I picked an absolute cracking looker called Caroline. I wanted an hour but she had an appointment so we had 45 mins. Consisted of French kissing, me performing oral and fingering (with condom) until she was fully wet inside and squeezing my free hand tightly, her performing uncovered oral on me, then finishing with me shooting my load over her bod. She has real relaxed easy going character, lots of eye contact and is probably a popular choice for some moneybags visitor who wants an escort for a whole weekend. Incidentally as I left and walked onto Martin Luther Strasse I passed a man on his way in who was probably the one who had made an appointment to see her. 50's, grey hair and wearing a hat with a wavy brim. The type that seem popular with racehorse trainers. Maybe from this forum?

On my second visit I chose Kelly who I'the seen a couple of years previous. She's around 29, natural good looker, gives a great massage and blow job though there was false moaning during the shagging which I found off-putting and my previous encounter with her had been better.

On the final visit I was really under the weather and feeling lifeless having been attired all week for October as opposed to Berlin February temperatures. It was my last day and I was sat on the benches in Zoologischer Garten station deciding whether I was up to it. Popped a Viagra to help and decided to go for it. Choose a blond MILF around 30 years old with a real womanly MILF body. Said she was a Berliner and as she was not on the website I believed her as she knew the non-touristy areas really well. Told her I had the lurgy coming on so there was no kissing but great BJ and shag finishing with me shooting my load over her ample breasts. A really likeable character too and would definitely repeat.

Finally, had a quick couple of day break in Berlin last week. Just one visit to Liberty and again picked a girl not on the website. Uses the name Leah and looks not unlike WTA player Dominika Cibulikova. A pleasing encounter with French kissing, covered BJ, followed by her sitting on top and slamming me, then me shooting my load on her bod. Ended with an extremely pleasant massage. Professional without being too mechanical.

Next mongering probably sometime in August.

All.

I am planning a pleasure trip to berlin. Trip is two and half days and planning to stay at NH near savignyplatz. My plan is as follows.

Day 1. I arrive in the afternoon so plan to visit Liberty, Euphorie massage.

Day 2. Artemis.

Day 3. Art / KD and / or ErlebnisW for GB? Not so sure about ErlebW place and how to get there. If I can't muster the guts then will hit Mon rouge, which seems in the vicinity of the hotel.

I have punted before in US and other places, but first time in Berlin / Germany. I have been planning the trip over last few months and have been reading the forum. Having watched Angus videos and google maps, Berlin already feels familiar. For most part after reading the posts, I think I know what to expect at these bordells and Art.

Can someone help me with a few lingering questions and I continue my prep. One for today is about liberty.

- How much two girl cost for 40 min. 80+80+25+25 = 210? Correct. Translating website it seems 25 per girl for lesbian play.

- If I do anal with one and FT with other, do I pay both girls for anal and FT or only respective girls for the services. This question if for artemis also. If I have CIm iwht one, do I end up paying 50 to each girl although only one took the load in mouth.

- Does any one know about the 300 euro program at Liberty. Does it include girls prices for basic services (french, sex etc) or girls hour is on top of 300. Hence making it 300 +120 euro? Wondering the same for pool service at 160 euro?

Appreciate the great info on this forum.

Thanks

Flat rate clubs in Berlin—Caligula and KG both are flat rate brothels with better set up than regular RLD but much below in glamour than Artemis type club.

Entrance fee is 80E for unlimited hrs and girls and drinks including beer etc.

Number of babes are 5 typically in afternoon times, FS sampling time is limited to 20 min only, wherein even kissing costs extra. From girls point of view, she gets little and hence may appear uninterested, mechanical and hence unflexible at times, forget any type of GFE activity. However sampling can be done provided your Mr junior is under your control which can be a bit difficult.

[QUOTE=WMach; 1294333]Appreciate the great info on this forum.

Thanks[/QUOTE]Generally it goes like this. You pay the lady for time and what she herself does. So if you have two women, one does anal and the other FT (this could get complicated with in between washing depending upon just how squeamish are the girls) you will pay each for her time, the regular fee, plus one you will pay for anal, the other FT. If it is a lesbian show you will pay each girl the regular fee plus each a fee for the show. If you cum at the end in one ladies mouth, she will get the FT fee on top.

Where you have to be careful is if you want to avoid paying two FT fees, make it clear what it is you want, who will take the load. If they share it, you are on the hook for two FT fees as they both did FT. This is where it can get unscrupulous on the ladies' parts. As I say, clarify what you want before the heat of passion gets you an extra charge.

As for the Liberty price structure page-as far as I can make it out (and I am pretty sure this is correct) the sum in parentheses is the room fee and is included in the first sum. So the €300 special you are paying €180 to the girl plus €120 room fee for the luxury room. It does not really say this specifically but I know that a regular half hour session is €60 not €60 with €30 tacked on for the room. So I assume all the fees work the same.

AM

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;1294232]Angus looking back I should have, and you summed it just nicely, a wasted shot on goal. Once gain totally new to the German scene and the flat rate thing so was not 100 sure of the etiquette. Now I have been next time I would just walk out on a bitchy girl without question.[/QUOTE]Well, I am not sure what the "etiquette" would be myself really. I would do it as politely as possible but just let her know that her services would no longer be needed. I would not make a big deal out of it as I would not want to get her in trouble with the boss no matter how bitchy she acted towards me. But as there do seem to be girls there who are interested in giving a decent session, why waste time with the others? As you point out I think it does do to be a little firm in this sort of place as if one hangs around waiting for the girls to make it happen, it probably won't.

AM

[QUOTE=LeFouDeBerlin; 1294166][url]Http://www.spiritual-tantra.de/en_tantra-berlin-home.html[/url]

This is also good address.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Sir.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1294140]If you really do want a good massage in a non-bordello then I do recommend Kashima. It is an expensive massage but it is longer than most, is a very clean environment and the girls are highly trained both in massage and in treating the customer as king.

AM[/QUOTE]Again, thank you very much, Sir.

Actually, come to think of it, Kashima isn't really more expensive than other massage establishments. Just checked for instance Aphrodite, and they will charge 190 Euro for a 2 hr session. However, Kashima will only of course offer sessions of a minimum of 2 hrs. So it will e more costly to go to Kashima, since you can get a 1hr session or less at other places.

Also, thanks for reiterating the tip about booking an early appointment with KZ girls.

K

[QUOTE=Corinthian; 1294601]Thank you, Sir.

Again, thank you very much, Sir.

Actually, come to think of it, Kashima isn't really more expensive than other massage establishments. Just checked for instance Aphrodite, and they will charge 190 Euro for a 2 hr session. However, Kashima will only of course offer sessions of a minimum of 2 hrs. So it will e more costly to go to Kashima, since you can get a 1hr session or less at other places.

Also, thanks for reiterating the tip about booking an early appointment with KZ girls.

K[/QUOTE]I am a little bit confused here. If you pay 190 Euro for 2 hr massage, you can pay the same amount of money to get massage and sex in a brothel. Can't you?

[QUOTE=WMach; 1294333]All.

I am planning a pleasure trip to berlin. Trip is two and half days and planning to stay at NH near savignyplatz. My plan is as follows.

Day 1. I arrive in the afternoon so plan to visit Liberty, Euphorie massage.

Day 2. Artemis.

Day 3. Art / KD and / or ErlebnisW for GB? Not so sure about ErlebnisW place and how to get there. If I can't muster the guts then will hit Mon rouge, which seems in the vicinity of the hotel.[/QUOTE]Hello WMach, I can certainly recommend a vist to ErlebnisW, even if you don't partake (most unlikely) it is an experience in itself.

From Savignyplatz make your way to Wilmersdorfer Strasse U-bahn station and take the U7 line in the direction Rudow to Karl-Marx-Strasse. Exit the station from the stairs at the end in the direction that your train is heading, turn left and cross the road, to a doorway between a shop and a hairdressers just ring the bell and in you go.

If its not your thing you could head over to Artemis afterwards as ErlebnisW don't stay open that late, I had planned to do that but in the end I was just too knackered.

[QUOTE=Ableyone; 1294732]Hello WMach, I can certainly recommend a vist to ErlebnisW, even if you don't partake (most unlikely) it is an experience in itself.

From Savignyplatz make your way to Wilmersdorfer Strasse U-bahn station and take the U7 line in the direction Rudow to Karl-Marx-Strasse. Exit the station from the stairs at the end in the direction that your train is heading, turn left and cross the road, to a doorway between a shop and a hairdressers just ring the bell and in you go.

If its not your thing you could head over to Artemis afterwards as ErlebnisW don't stay open that late, I had planned to do that but in the end I was just too knackered.[/QUOTE]Is Erlebnisw a flat rate club? Do all the customers and girls have to be naked like those FKK clubs? Does the club serve food and drink? Is the club openned in the afternoon? How many girls are there in the club?

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1294759]Is Erlebnisw a flat rate club? Do all the customers and girls have to be naked like those FKK clubs? Does the club serve food and drink? Is the club openned in the afternoon? How many girls are there in the club?[/QUOTE]If you don't mind a bit of reading, all your answers are in this thread :

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin[/url]

Have fun!

VeLo BERLIN

Hello,

Please, can someone explain what it is?

Thanks in advance,

Vompat

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1294759]Is Erlebnisw a flat rate club? Do all the customers and girls have to be naked like those FKK clubs? Does the club serve food and drink? Is the club openned in the afternoon? How many girls are there in the club?[/QUOTE]USH. All this is on their website, and the ISG thread.

I had a quick look last night at all your posts. Heaps of questions, a few very brief mentions that you have been to a few clubs. But now I think it's high time you give back to the community here with some proper review postings.

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1294655]I am a little bit confused here. If you pay 190 Euro for 2 hr massage, you can pay the same amount of money to get massage and sex in a brothel. Can't you?[/QUOTE]Sure you can but the quality of the massage will vary. While having a girl give you a back rub before or after nailing her can be nice, it is by no mean the equivalent to a proper tantra massage.

AM

I been to Artemis once, loved it. Expensive though (for me).

Angus, have you tried Erlebnisw, what you think? Worth?

[QUOTE=TheChinaPole; 1295179]I been to Artemis once, loved it. Expensive though (for me).

Angus, have you tried Erlebnisw, what you think? Worth?[/QUOTE]I have not tried it as Gang Bangs do not really turn me on. I may one day but it is not high on my list.

It is as far as I can tell a very different experience to an FKK. But if you like the public aspect and sharing women it does sound like the only place in town at the moment except for the one-off GB that get arranged from time to time.

AM

I'm contemplating flying to Berlin for a couple of days. I would stay in a hotel and be without my own car. Is there a district with a high concentration of girls, preferably Eros Centers or "Laufhäuser" where you can walk and choose? I mean a district where I would have plenty of opportunities within walking distance from my hotel.

I've never been in Berlin.

On another note, I'd be interested to know what the incidence of VD is after participation in an AO gang-bang. There's worrying news right now about uncurable gonnorhea. It may be confined to Asia for the time being though.

[quote=xxl; 1295405]i'm contemplating flying to berlin for a couple of days. i would stay in a hotel and be without my own car. is there a district with a high concentration of girls, preferably eros centers or "laufhäuser" where you can walk and choose? i mean a district where i would have plenty of opportunities within walking distance from my hotel.

i've never been in berlin.

on another note, i'd be interested to know what the incidence of vd is after participation in an ao gang-bang. there's worrying news right now about uncurable gonnorhea. it may be confined to asia for the time being though.[/quote]there's not really the same kind of concentration of eros centers that you're referring to from frankfurt. the places seem more rep001tered around the city of berlin. kurfurstenstrasse is the typical hooker street. i wouldn't recommend it, except if you're turned on by seedy streets, with trafficked girls from romania and bulgaria and with their pimps sitting close by, monitoring what happens. i am by no means an expert of berlin, so i guess you're better off reading the excellent blog of [url]www.angusmagee.com[/url]

[QUOTE=XXL;1295405]I'm contemplating flying to Berlin for a couple of days. I would stay in a hotel and be without my own car. Is there a district with a high concentration of girls, preferably Eros Centers or "Laufhäuser" where you can walk and choose? I mean a district where I would have plenty of opportunities within walking distance from my hotel.[/QUOTE]The only Laufhaus in Berlin is Freudenhaus Hase, I can recommend it (please read older posts in this thread).

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/[/url]

Cheers,

VeLo BERLIN

[QUOTE=Velo Berlin; 1294835]If you don't mind a bit of reading, all your answers are in this thread :

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin[/url]

Have fun!

VeLo BERLIN[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for your info. I checked their website and found out Saturday was the best day to go. They had 8 to 12 girls on Saturday but had only 2 to 4 girls on Sunday.

[QUOTE=Sucker17; 1295417]I guess you're better off reading the excellent blog of.

[url]www.angusmagee.com[/url][/QUOTE]I've just read his comprehensive report about the Artemis FKK. It seems this FKK alone is a red-light district in its own right. And it has hotels nearby.

[QUOTE=XXL; 1295405]I'm contemplating flying to Berlin for a couple of days. I would stay in a hotel and be without my own car. Is there a district with a high concentration of girls, preferably Eros Centers or "Laufhäuser" where you can walk and choose? I mean a district where I would have plenty of opportunities within walking distance from my hotel.

On another note, I'd be interested to know what the incidence of VD is after participation in an AO gang-bang. There's worrying news right now about uncurable gonnorhea. It may be confined to Asia for the time being though.[/QUOTE]X- search Berlin Forum for numerous previous reports re [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/modelle.html[/url] For 2 houses that approach what you requested. Private apt bordellos IMHO much better deal but the Hase hauser have their charms.

If you chose to stay in what I call the Berliner Triangle (sort of near Kurfurstendam, Adenauerplatz, Savignyplatz, Pariserplatz) you are within walking distance of many of the better bordellos. But with bicycle or excellent transit system and day pass, all easily accessible from anywhere. And as you rightly said, you cannot beat Artemis for the sheer density of choices within walking distance (as in 50 cms).

Your second question-now I am no doctor or medical researcher but it very difficult to find some central statistical office that tracks such things. The most accurate up-to-date info can be obtained just by asking at the door of such AO parties. They claim to do some sort of testing so they might know something, and you could ask. Ideally you would do this before entering, then again when leaving. You could ask in German, with a friendly upbeat tone,"Hallo Leuten, wer hat eine Geschlechtskrankheit? (Hi Folks, who has VD?)". A simple show of hands would suffice unless you want details vs just incidence. Of course this would need to be done with daily followups of all participants, over several months as there are incubation periods and with reputable labs doing all the testing. Good luck with that and do let us know what you find. You know the Forum depends upon the doggedness of its primary field investigators, or as detectives are sometimes known, Dicks.

Just a short addition to RBs post-seriously what kind of info do you expect to get with this AO / STD question other than anecdotal replies depending upon a mongers own predilections and habits? Most guys who use condoms all the time will probably say that uncovered sex is akin to playing Russian Roulette. A guy who bangs street girls daily probably believes he has little chance of catching more than a cold.

But let's face it, unprotected sex carries a risk that is hard to measure as there are just so many variables with infection. One guy can fuck Asian hookers for year and never catch so much as a case of crabs. Another has one AO contact and comes down with hepatitis. One never knows but I think I can say that if you do AO gang bangs you have to be prepared at the very least for the occasional case of the clap or maybe chlamydia.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1295650]Just a short addition to RBs post-seriously what kind of info do yo expect to get with this AO / STD question other than anecdotal replies depending upon a mongers own predilections and habits? Most guys who use condoms all the time will probably say that uncovered sex is akin to playing Russian Roulette. A guy who bangs street girls daily probably believes he has little chance of catching more than a cold.

But let's face it, unprotected sex carries a risk that is hard to measure as there are just so many variables with infection. One guy can fuck Asian hookers for year and never catch so much as a case of crabs. Another has one AO contact and comes down with hepatitis. One never knows but I think I can say that if you do AO gang bangs you have to be prepared at the very least for the occasional case of the clap or maybe chlamydia.

AM[/QUOTE]Indeed.
And please for you others of a more fundamentalist persuasion (either way), let us not revisit the whole (hole) AO thing here, yet again.
The point is just, credible info impossible.

Thanks for the answers Angus and Ableyone.

I am not finding much on the forum on one more question.

Alternatives to viagra / cialis available in Berlin. A previous post (AM) mentions viagra needs prescription. I have read many people mention blue pill (viagra?) on the forum, so I guess they are bringing it with them.

However are there over the counter alternatives or other places where I can get some energy boosters in pharmacy easily.

Any recommendations are welcome.

Thanks in Advance

Last week I visited Erlebniswohnung again. I first visited this place when it was in Engelsmassagen I Sonnenalle. Then it was exciting and new and you felt that it was like a group of friends who got together Mustafa even had Bellydancer (no sex) who was appearing a seroius Belly dance.

Then I visited the new place in Karl marx strasse 155, when it had moved to there It was in March of 2011. Also a friendly feeling and it felt not so professionell as it did when I was there last week.

Now you can really that its professinell prostitutes who is working (I know Yvonne and Lisa Marie work as prostitutes in Van Kampen for example).

The rest of the woman is think is "Freelancers"

Its all about getting the next into there mouth or **** and when the ejaculation has come they just scream for the next man to come. It rweally very mechanical, like they were working in coctory or something like that. Mustafa he has full control, and when womens time is up, he go and tell them so, that its time for the next woman "to work".

It really feel that they "are working mechanically".

There are exceptions, like Sophie who is a pearl. Yvonne can "work" on a penis for like 45 minutes without tiring, like she did on mine in September 2011, when I was visiting. After this 45 minutes Mustafa himself joined, so I Had competion over Yvonne, that Mustafa won, but it was after approx. 40 minutes. She doesn t look anyone in the eye she's just working on the penis. I think she's a little autiistic, i mean how can youwork on a penis for thaqt long. And penis after penis for like 6 hours.

But the food and the drink is still great. And also the athmosphere is great. But its too mechanical for me

Perhaps I intend to go to la Folie during my stay in Berlin next month.

[url]http://www.la-folie.de/index.php?section=home&l=de[/url]

Is it a good address? Thank you for your reply.

[QUOTE=LeFouDeBerlin; 1296564]Hello,

Maybe I'll go to the FKK La Folie during my stay in Berlin.

What do you think of that? Is it a good address?[/QUOTE]La Folie used to be a great address. Since Artemis opened it seems to have fallen on some harder times. Last two time I went (some 3 years back) I left without doing anything. I guess it depends a bit on your expectation. If you compare it to Artemis the quality of women there is lacking. I also did not like the girls asking for drinks (€21 small bottles of champagne) immediately upon sitting with you.

AM

Thanks for the report, I don't have the same feeling about girls there being "mechanical", but to each their own! I won't comment on your vision of autism.

By the way, there is now a specific forum for Erlebniswohnung [url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin[/url]

[QUOTE=NannyOKnut; 1296177]Last week I visited Erlebniswohnung again. I first visited this place when it was in Engelsmassagen I Sonnenalle. Then it was exciting and new and you felt that it was like a group of friends who got together Mustafa even had Bellydancer (no sex) who was appearing a seroius Belly dance.

Then I visited the new place in Karl marx strasse 155, when it had moved to there It was in March of 2011. Also a friendly feeling and it felt not so professionell as it did when I was there last week.

Now you can really that its professinell prostitutes who is working (I know Yvonne and Lisa Marie work as prostitutes in Van Kampen for example).

The rest of the woman is think is "Freelancers"

Its all about getting the next into there mouth or * and when the ejaculation has come they just scream for the next man to come. It rweally very mechanical, like they were working in coctory or something like that. Mustafa he has full control, and when womens time is up, he go and tell them so, that its time for the next woman "to work".

It really feel that they "are working mechanically".

There are exceptions, like Sophie who is a pearl. Yvonne can "work" on a penis for like 45 minutes without tiring, like she did on mine in September 2011, when I was visiting. After this 45 minutes Mustafa himself joined, so I Had competion over Yvonne, that Mustafa won, but it was after approx. 40 minutes. She doesn t look anyone in the eye she's just working on the penis. I think she's a little autiistic, I mean how can youwork on a penis for thaqt long. And penis after penis for like 6 hours.

But the food and the drink is still great. And also the athmosphere is great. But its too mechanical for me[/QUOTE]

It seems that Klien & Zierlich is back in full force, even adding two new girls to the roster. This is the most girls I have ever seen this agency run. Anyone up for taking one for the team and doing some testing?

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html[/url]

AM

When it comes to P4P I have only been at FKK:s.

Maybe I should give brothels a try, maybe it suits me better?

I know the answers is somewhere in the thread but I still ask, the four main brothels to visit is Kamilla la Dee, Van kampen, Liberty and Royal right?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1297224]When it comes to P4P I have only been at FKK:s.

Maybe I should give brothels a try, maybe it suits me better?

I know the answers is somewhere in the thread but I still ask, the four main brothels to visit is Kamilla la Dee, Van kampen, Liberty and Royal right?

Norjan[/QUOTE]I might add Mon Rouge to that list though it is a bit more expensive and tends not to have a huge selection at any given time. And there is also Odette's which is also a bit pricier.

[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]

And close to Artemis (geographically) is Salon Prestige, a very similar bordello to Liberty.

[url]http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/[/url]

Certainly if you do not like the company of your fellow mongers and don't care for communal showers the bordello is much more your style. In apartment bordellos they take great care that you never see another punter.The only drawback is that one has to make a pretty quick decision with little info about which girl to chose.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1297229]I might add Mon Rouge to that list though it is a bit more expensive and tends not to have a huge selection at any given time. And there is also Odette's which is also a bit pricier.

[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]

And close to Artemis (geographically) is Salon Prestige, a very similar bordello to Liberty.

[url]http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/[/url]

Certainly if you do not like the company of your fellow mongers and don't care for communal showers the bordello is much more your style. In apartment bordellos they take great care that you never see another punter. The only drawback is that one has to make a pretty quick decision with little info about which girl to chose.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks man, I think I'll give'them a try.

Is it OK to walk away if you do not fancy any of the girls?

N

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1297154]It seems that Klien & Zierlich is back in full force, even adding two new girls to the roster. This is the most girls I have ever seen this agency run. Anyone up for taking one for the team and doing some testing?

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Send the Andrea broad over here to Casablanca. I actually have seen her pictures used on websites in the USA and on mundoanuncio in Spain. Got to be a looker if the other putes are copying her pics.

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/escortservice-berlin-andrea.html[/url]

Will give her a go when I get back to Berlin at the start of Ramadan (July 20 or so). Going to spend a full month or so touring Germany, Poland and Austria with 2 weeks in Berlin.

Is Krakow worth seeing?

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1297231]Thanks man, I think I'll give'them a try.

Is it OK to walk away if you do not fancy any of the girls?

N[/QUOTE]If you do not like any of the girls just tell them and you are free to go.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1297229]I might add Mon Rouge to that list though it is a bit more expensive and tends not to have a huge selection at any given time. And there is also Odette's which is also a bit pricier.

[url]http://www.odetteberlin.de/[/url]

And close to Artemis (geographically) is Salon Prestige, a very similar bordello to Liberty.

[url]http://salon-prestige-berlin.de/[/url]

Certainly if you do not like the company of your fellow mongers and don't care for communal showers the bordello is much more your style. In apartment bordellos they take great care that you never see another punter. The only drawback is that one has to make a pretty quick decision with little info about which girl to chose.

AM[/QUOTE]And forget thee not Tiffany / Ritter. [url]http://www.ritter11.de/nutten-berlin.php[/url], which can have some good variety, good prices, and has nice, though lonely showers.

All the above establishments are very clean. So you can put it in after the putzen.

Hi, mongers, I am looking for AO with young girls in Germany and I don't want to receive swears by managers and providers. What can you suggest me?

[QUOTE=AColonizer;1297252]Hi, mongers, I am looking for AO with young girls in Germany and I don't want to receive swears by managers and providers. What can you suggest me?[/QUOTE]Umm...the AO thread on the ISG forum. Or if you want I will pm to you the web address of a German AO forum. It is in German but for the dedicated monger this should be a minor obstacle.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1297237]If you do not like any of the girls just tell them and you are free to go.

AM[/QUOTE]So all the brothels in Berlin don't charge entry fees. If you like one of the girls, you stay. If you don't like any of them, you just walk out without any obligation. Are those girls in lingerie or in plain dress?

Is the beer free in Erlebniswohnung?

See this is on this Friday. [url]http://limo-gangbang-berlin.de/[/url]

I'm actually tempted but probably won't bother. Anyone know anything about it??

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-20594.html[/url]

[QUOTE=UShobbyist;1297555]Is the beer free in Erlebniswohnung?[/QUOTE]Yes. There is Pilsner Urquel (a delicious Czech beer) and Wartsteiner in both alcoholic and non-alcoholic variety.

There is a specific thread on the Erlebniswohnung, probably a better place to ask if you have more questions?

[url]http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin[/url]

Cheers,

Velo Berlin

[QUOTE=Wanking; 1297609]See this is on this Friday.

[url]http://limo-gangbang-berlin.de/[/url]

I'm actually tempted but probably won't bother. Anyone know anything about it?

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/Gangbang-Berlin-20594.html[/url][/QUOTE]Not a thing, except I believe Angus and I saw it drive by while we were having a coffee the other day. Very stretched.

Though, it does give new meaning to the petrol / gas station request "Fill 'er up".

Is there any "high end" escorts in Berlin?

I've googled but are not able to sort out the serious ones.

Anybody who knows?

Norjan

Recently I was in Berlin and had the pleasure of meeting Lora. Only outcall.

Great services all around. Bbbjdtcim, DATY, dfk, and more. Very pse. We meet for two hours and the time flew by.

Planning to see her again very soon.

[url]http://loragora.tumblr.com/[/url]

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1297955]Is there any "high end" escorts in Berlin?

I've googled but are not able to sort out the serious ones. Anybody who knows?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan-when you search, you must use the phrase "serious high end escorts" and compare with "high end serious escorts".

One gives you the greatest expense; the other their behaviour. You probably want to throw in "seriously clean and hygenic high end."

But, Google being what it is, it might misinterpret high end and return either very tall girls, or ones whose buttocks are tilted upwards.

So be damn careful, as we know you will.

Now, Charlie123 might be your man on all this though he has an eye for value vs just expense. But if you want a decent aggregator of options, you can try this:

[url]http://www.cityoflove.com/EN/germany/berlin/default.aspx[/url]

Never done, never would, as I just don't think the eye-candy (admittedly serious eye-candy) worth it. Are they really 2-4X better than what is available at the usual outlets? But as with all luxury goods, there are sellers and there are buyers. No idea how much photoshopping (you can be sure) involved, no idea of actual performance, but seems like a reasonable place to start for the unreasonable.

[QUOTE=Il Duca; 1297972]Recently I was in Berlin and had the pleasure of meeting Lora. Only outcall.

Great services all around. Bbbjdtcim, DATY, dfk, and more. Very pse. We meet for two hours and the time flew by.

Planning to see her again very soon.

[url]http://loragora.tumblr.com/[/url][/QUOTE]How would you rate her on looks and performance?

[QUOTE=Immy007;1298201]How would you rate her on looks and performance?[/QUOTE]Unless I am mistaken the very post that you quote rates her well.

AM

[QUOTE=Il Duca; 1297972]Recently I was in Berlin and had the pleasure of meeting Lora. Only outcall.

Great services all around. Bbbjdtcim, DATY, dfk, and more. Very pse. We meet for two hours and the time flew by.

Planning to see her again very soon.

[url]http://loragora.tumblr.com/[/url][/QUOTE]thanks Il Duca.

Quite intriguing. Looks like I could finally take advantage of the "2 adults" room I usually book in Berlin.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1298106]Norjan-when you search, you must use the phrase "serious high end escorts" and compare with "high end serious escorts".

One gives you the greatest expense; the other their behaviour. You probably want to throw in "seriously clean and hygenic high end."

But, Google being what it is, it might misinterpret high end and return either very tall girls, or ones whose buttocks are tilted upwards.

So be damn careful, as we know you will.[/QUOTE]I did'nt used "high end" when I googled but you had a funny point.

Having a high class, and I mean high class, escort arriving to my hotel room is just a fantasy I need to get out of my system.

Will try it, if I find some one.

N

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1298238]I did'nt used "high end" when I googled but you had a funny point.

Having a high class, and I mean high class, escort arriving to my hotel room is just a fantasy I need to get out of my system.

Will try it, if I find some one.

N[/QUOTE]If that is so I personally would arrange it with a bordello like Kamilla Dee. The cost will be around €200 (maybe a bit more) and you will get the girl you order. There are several "exclusive" agencies in town but I have never heard all that much positive about them. If you search this thread you will find a number of reports about the KD escort service by Bobo. Fr.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1298253]If that is so I personally would arrange it with a bordello like Kamilla Dee. The cost will be around €200 (maybe a bit more) and you will get the girl you order. There are several "exclusive" agencies in town but I have never heard all that much positive about them. If you search this thread you will find a number of reports about the KD escort service by Bobo. Fr.

AM[/QUOTE]No brothel escort for this fantasy, I mean a true creme de la creme escort, like the ones you see in the Hollywood movies.

Whats the top notch escorts in Berlin? Need a few agencies to study.

Money: Not an issue.

Report will follow, if I get lucky.

N

BTW having an escort arriving to your hotel, what do the hotel staff think of this? Is it a normal thing to do in Germany or will they ban me?

N

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1298281]BTW having an escort arriving to your hotel, what do the hotel staff think of this? Is it a normal thing to do in Germany or will they ban me?

N[/QUOTE]N- It is completely normal. The whole country does it. Even grandmothers. The hotel staff will think you are one righteous cool dude. They will only ban you if:

1. She stays overnight and you booked only a single room, or if

2. When she walks into the hotel lobby, you leap out of the chair in which you have been patiently waiting, and greet her by shouting at the top of your lungs:
"Mein Fuehrer, I can valk!" a la Dr. Strangelove.

Charlie123 has explained this ad nausem on this very forum. At least the first part. You might want to PM him about high end stuff.
But if money is really no object, hell, even I might consider it, washing with sterilized soap beforehand of course.
As long as you don't mind beards. But it will cost you.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1298274]No brothel escort for this fantasy, I mean a true creme de la creme escort, like the ones you see in the Hollywood movies.[/QUOTE]Well have at it then. We will commiserate with you the next day after a Roma (Gypsy) crack wh*re shows up at your 4 star hotel and drinks your wet bar dry.

AM

Charlie, help me out.

NorjaN

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1298274]No brothel escort for this fantasy, I mean a true creme de la creme escort, like the ones you see in the Hollywood movies.

Whats the top notch escorts in Berlin? Need a few agencies to study.

Money: Not an issue.

Report will follow, if I get lucky.

N[/QUOTE]I don't like that arrogance but apparently you are asking for help :

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin[/url]

It's a game!

Yessssssssssssssssssssssssss!
:)


Kimino

Hi all,

Milena was my "regular girl", see my post here summing up our past meetings :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1275359&viewfull=1#post1275359[/url]

I hadn't seen her in a few months, Erlebniswohnung was taking up all my mongering budget at the time. I wanted to see if I could go back to the one on one, GFE type of sex. This visit was back in late May.

Sadly the old "romance" is gone. We had a nice connexion while it lasted but at that time I saw her almost once a week.

Anyway she did recognize me but did not comment about my loss of weight since we last met (I lost almost 10% of my total weight in those few months). She wasn't in the greatest shape herself that day, maybe tired, maybe put on a little weight. I noticed a large scratch on her back with a patch of dried up blood.

I was very horny and excited nonetheless and sexwise we had about the same as in the past, heavy petting, DFK, blowjob. 69, sex in missionary, doggy and back to missionary, I blew a huge load in the condom!

However I felt she was on autopilot, lots of winks, fake noises, etc. She had this attitude just once in the past, and just briefly (I gave her a puzzled look and she stopped).

Sadly I think this is the end to our story as I can't afford to go back to seeing her weekly and afford a monthly visit to Erlebniswohnung at the same time. I hesitate to go to Hase now and try and see another girl, at least when she's on the roster on a specific day.

Cheers,

Velo Berlin

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1298306]I don't like that arrogance but apparently you are asking for help :

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin[/url][/QUOTE]When I see these level of prices for girls my mind always goes to Pulp Fiction and the $5 shake issue.

Ahahaha.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoJAc_aSM7E[/url]

Kimino

Hi all,

I read about this girl in a German forum, Poppreport. Com.

The guy that wrote the report said she was a young Romanian girl, maybe 18 or 19, 20 at most, with a spectacular body, but very inexperienced. He said also the photos on the website didn't do her justice.

Photos on the Freudenhaus Hase website are here :

[url]http://laufhaus-berlin.com/html/ina.html[/url]

I was horny and Milena (who I'm trying to avoid since our "break-up") wasn't there that day according to the website. Romanians don't have the greatest reputation in the sex business but I decided to give Ina a try!

She was in the right hand side building on the ground floor, it's a very nice and large bedroom with a four poster bed and a very good connecting bathroom with shower. I've been there before with Amelie.

Ina has indeed a spectacular young body, slim, great skin, pretty face, beautiful eyes, shaved pussy, hair dyed blonde (she said it was red only recently). She's nice enough, speaks little German but good English and decent French too.

We both got naked and got on the big bed, apparently she's very passive and waits for the customer to make his moves. The only thing she did was lightly scratching and caressing my nipples and torso, that seemed to be her limit in foreplay. It soon became obvious that she wasn't going to give me a blowjob, although to be fair I didn't ask, so I proceeded to lick her pussy (nice!) , stroking my dick to achieve sufficient hardness to be able to penetrate her.

Condom on, I fucked her missionary, then doggy for 10 minutes or so. After I finally came, she literally jumped off the bed to get on the sofa and read the messages on her phone, ignoring me totally. Oh well, this was nice enough and all in all a great experience, fucking a model-like teenager that could be in the central pages of Playboy or Penthouse easy, all that for 30 €/20 minutes.

If you're into beautiful nubile girls and are not deterred by passivity, by all means giver her a try, you won't be disapointed!

Cheers,

VeLo BERLIN

[QUOTE=Kimino;1298498]When I see these level of prices for girls my mind always goes to Pulp Fiction and the $5 shake issue.Kimino[/QUOTE]When I see those prices, my mind goes to becoming one of those girls.

A week on my back would pay for the operations and hormones, and then it's pure poon profits.

Living in another universe.

and Velo - as Tony Soprano once said, "Sorry for your loss".
Commercial sex and emotional attachment is a bad mix.
But I think what you went through is also part of the Hase house business model. You might consider alternatives?

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1298306]I don't like that arrogance but apparently you are asking for help :

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks bobo, really appreciate.

One of the girls, a fantasy available!

Only problem, she is not in Berlin.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1298630]When I see those prices, my mind goes to becoming one of those girls.

A week on my back would pay for the operations and hormones, and then it's pure poon profits.[/QUOTE]No disrespect intended RB but considering your visage et. al. I would think a week might be a bit optimistic.

;)

AM

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1298666]Thanks bobo, really appreciate.

One of the girls, a fantasy available!

Only problem, she is not in Berlin.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Most of them can travel : give a call to the agency

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1298306]I don't like that arrogance but apparently you are asking for help :

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin[/url][/QUOTE]Out of curiosity and a certain "need to know", have you actually used this agency Bobo and found them to be reputable?

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1298699]Out of curiosity and a certain "need to know", have you actually used this agency.

AM[/QUOTE]No Angus.

Have a nice week-end (especially in finding us new "places"!)

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1298673]No disrespect intended RB but considering your visage et. al. I would think a week might be a bit optimistic.;)AM[/QUOTE]This is respect? I'm calling Chrissy and Pauli to confirm.

But I guess, you have talked me out of it. I've only got the showers at Arts Bahnhoff left to imagine would could have been.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1297154]It seems that Klien & Zierlich is back in full force, even adding two new girls to the roster. This is the most girls I have ever seen this agency run. Anyone up for taking one for the team and doing some testing?

[url]http://www.klein-zierlich.de/index.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Hi,

Been busy recently, so I haven't been keeping up with the news from the Haupstadt sex scene but I did also notice today that there is now a larger line-up than ever before at KZ. This may well not be a good thing, quality control and all that stuff. A couple of the new girls look pretty ordinary and the 'zierlich' factor ain't what it was with most of the girls being 170cm+, whereas little cuties used to be very much the order of the day with KZ.

Nicole looks the cutest of the new bunch to me, followed by Michelle. I am in town in a week or so, and the likelihood is that I will have news to report.

C

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1298238]I did'nt used "high end" when I googled but you had a funny point.

Having a high class, and I mean high class, escort arriving to my hotel room is just a fantasy I need to get out of my system.

Will try it, if I find some one.

N[/QUOTE]What do you mean by 'High Class? ', that's the issue, isn't it?

I mean, one could argue that really high class girls don't do escorting at all. There's not a great deal of it amongst the British aristocracy for instance, and that's about the only 'high class' community that I am prepared to recognise.

More seriously, I don't believe that these premium agencies have any greater access to 'high class' girls than any of their cheaper competitors. The more expensive girls may be more classically beautiful than the cheaper escorts, and some may offer a more intimate / better service (even more doubtful) , but I truly believe that even 500E per hour will not guarantee you both, and you may well get neither.

FWIW, the only 'high class' agency that ever caught my eye is this one:-

[url]http://www.mistress-greta-brentano.com/#intro.php[/url]

This MAY be a classy operation. Please let me know if you do decide to try it out.

Best.

C

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1298306]I don't like that arrogance but apparently you are asking for help :

[url]http://www.venusescorts.com/en/escortservice/berlin[/url][/QUOTE]What arrogance? The fact that he said money is no object? WTF is wrong with that. It's just pricing information to facilitate responses to his very specific enquiry. It's just as appropriate to state 'price no object' as it is to explain that one is a budget mongerer looking for value at the lower end of the price spectrum. I really don't think that he's trying to show off in any way.

Your new government is about to effectively throw all the rich people out of France Bobo, but we don't really need that sort of economic cleansing excercised on this forum.

I'm sure that you are a top guy, and you've certainly made countless valuable contributions to these pages, but that was a poor effort on your part.

Best wishes

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1299382]What arrogance? The fact that he said money is no object? WTF is wrong with that. It's just pricing information to facilitate responses to his very specific enquiry. It's just as appropriate to state 'price no object' as it is to explain that one is a budget mongerer looking for value at the lower end of the price spectrum. I really don't think that he's trying to show off in any way.

Your new government is about to effectively throw all the rich people out of France Bobo, but we don't really need that sort of economic cleansing excercised on this forum.

I'm sure that you are a top guy, and you've certainly made countless valuable contributions to these pages, but that was a poor effort on your part.

Best wishes.

C[/QUOTE]I kind of understood it a bit differently-that Norjan was snubbing the Kamilla Dee crew simply because they worked at a bordello. Maybe not arrogance as I know it (but then Bobo's mother tongue is not English) rather a certain type of (In My Always So Humble Opinion) short sighted snobbery. I say short sighted because often, if you track this sort of thing which I no longer do, the top priced girls are simply baiting their hooks with different bait when angling for the high flying pooner. By this I mean that some girls will set themselves with a couple of Id's on different sites and price them differently. So if you happen to come across their higher priced ad you pay the gold price. The same girl can be had for €100-200 cheaper if one finds her on a lesser site. A girl I knew from Artemis who then went on the escorting told me of this practice. Nothing wrong with it, just to realise that the price a girl puts on her pussy is oftn flexible if one know where and how to look. This particular girl I am sure gave her top service at either price.

So what is not clear with Norjan is whether or not he simply has a desire to pay a whopping great price for a girl, if he has some sort of S&M economic fetish to subdue? If all he wants is a very "high class" girl who will give good service I stand by my KD recommendation, or maybe Royal if he wants an un-coverd BJ.

If he simply wants to pay a lot then he should just look for the highest price and maybe offer her more?

I also have the feeling that many top girls do not advertise so openly on the web in the obvious places and do not offer their services by the hour. Diner and drinks along with a good night of sex would be the minimum and could run quite a bit more than €1500-2000 plus expenses.

AM

Norjan. Man, have you stirred up a shit storm here. Look what all this has started, taking us away from field reports, in the middle of summer bung season.

Anyway, I want to warn you. Just because you may be able to order some high class ho, that does not mean she won't have some high class germs.
Or even low class germs. Germs so low class even high class antiseptic soap won't be able to remove 'em.

So no matter how posh her accent, education, and upbringing, you must remain vigilant. Vaginas cleanius maximus. Semper thigh.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1299390]I kind of understood it a bit differently-that Norjan was snubbing the Kamilla Dee crew simply because they worked at a bordello. Maybe not arrogance as I know it (but then Bobo's mother tongue is not English) rather a certain type of (In My Always So Humble Opinion) short sighted snobbery. I say short sighted because often, if you track this sort of thing which I no longer do, the top priced girls are simply baiting their hooks with different bait when angling for the high flying pooner. By this I mean that some girls will set themselves with a couple of I'd's on different sites and price them differently. So if you happen to come across their higher priced ad you pay the gold price. The same girl can be had for €100-200 cheaper if one finds her on a lesser site. A girl I knew from Artemis who then went on the escorting told me of this practice. Nothing wrong with it, just to realise that the price a girl puts on her pussy is oftn flexible if one know where and how to look. This particular girl I am sure gave her top service at either price.

So what is not clear with Norjan is whether or not he simply has a desire to pay a whopping great price for a girl, if he has some sort of S&M economic fetish to subdue? If all he wants is a very "high class" girl who will give good service I stand by my KD recommendation, or maybe Royal if he wants an un-coverd BJ.

If he simply wants to pay a lot then he should just look for the highest price and maybe offer her more?

I also have the feeling that many top girls do not advertise so openly on the web in the obvious places and do not offer their services by the hour. Diner and drinks along with a good night of sex would be the minimum and could run quite a bit more than €1500-2000 plus expenses.

AM[/QUOTE]Maybe I mis-understood Bobo's objection. Advance apologies to him if I maligned him unreasonably.

Norjan no doubt can speak for himself, but I interpreted that he was looking for unbridled quality at whatever price it comes at. I believe that excellence is the driver of his quest, not cost. I reckon that he was merely seeking to emphasise that, at whatever the expense, he is looking for that 'once in a lifetime' experience with a Charlie Sheen-class hooker, just as for instance another person might once go out on a limb to satisfy a lifetime urge to have a threesome. I can certainly empathise with the desire to taste just once the finest delights that the escort industry has to offer, why not?

I suspect however that we are however of the same mind whereby he is unlikely to find it in Berlin, and moreover price discrimination is by no means the best method of discerning quality in the Berlin market. What you say about girls advertising themselves at different rates is absolutely correct, and splashing out 500E / hr might merely get you a 200E / hr girl who just got very lucky with your choice of website.

As I suggested to Norjan in a PM, I don't think the elite hookers work in Berlin. I think that the top dollar girls are to be found in the big financial centres like London, NY, Moscow etc where people like to party for big money. Berlin is not a rich city nor is it a draw for the financial big-hitters. But I don't truly know and I suspect that nobody on this forum would know. If I wanted to find out the answer for sure, I'd cosy up to a few of the regs at Artemis, a couple of the Gold Rolex brigade, and ask them the score. I'm sure they'd know.

Best.

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1299382]Your new government is about to effectively throw all the rich people out of France Bobo, but we don't really need that sort of economic cleansing excercised on this forum.[/QUOTE]Cheap shot IMVHO, let's keep politics off limits on those forums shall we?

Cheers,

VeLo Berlin

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1299382]What arrogance?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Norjan;1298274]No brothel escort for this fantasy, I mean a true creme de la creme escort, .[/QUOTE]Personnally I feel a partial "a priori" disregard, disdain towards those ladies who choose to work in brothels.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1299382]Your new government is about to effectively throw all the rich people out of France Bobo, but we don't really need that sort of economic cleansing excercised on this forum.[/QUOTE]Do we need this kind of political discussions in this forum?

Charlie-we were just wondering as to your whereabouts recently so nice to see you back on the grid.

Don't completely agree with your Berlin assessment. The concentration of wealth and thus those expensive moths drawn to such flames is of course no where near what it is in the big financial or power capitals. However, while not over the top the way it is in London, NY. LA, or say various Middle Eastern hotbeds, it is surely here. Berlin is a powerful seat of government, it has a large constellation of global media firms, surprising biotech sector, and more than enough wealth to accommodate a number of pricey tutes. While the sheer quantity of expensive booty is, as you say lacking, it is surely available. Case in point the old Bel Ami villa, and there are various websites pushing high rates for high rollers.

What IMHO works against this is that compared too all these other cities, Berlin has 3 somewhat unusual conditions. First, much higher rates of youth unemployment, which pushes girls to other modes of revenue generating, so you have a large supply. Second a long cultural history of being tolerant (minimal legal restrictions) and wild re all things sexual, so it is not just a such a big deal here. The result is a fair bit of downward price pressure. In most other power poon cities, the supply (relative to population size) and cultural taboos work the other way. It is no accident that the Mayor of Berlin once said,"Berlin is poor but sexy", as indeed it is. It would be more than a little interesting to know how much financial punch all things sexual have in the Berlin economy, as I guess it is surprisingly significant. There is a third contributing factor-Berlin remains by far the least expensive big capital and cultural city in perhaps the Northern Hemisphere. All costs are lower so all prices are lower. With so much inexpensive (and we must admit, good quality) supply, it is more difficult here to even find, yet alone justify, high ho rates. A final lesser aspect is that Berlin has always had a tinge of modesty about silly prices for anything - having been through so much hell, being a vaguely lefty place, always in the view of the DDR etc. Berlin was and is proud of small excesses, like the KDW dept store and of late the odd parade of Ferraris and Lambos that like to cruise in front of it. But culturally, lavish sums thrown recklessly about are just frowned upon. Berliner are literally frugal fuckers.

There is another aspect to all this-as Jack Nicholson once said,"we don't pay hookers for sex; we pay them to go away afterwards". Similarly the rich and famous have more worries about privacy and are willing (indeed must) pay more to have their little escapades remain private. And even then it doesn't always work as in DSK or the governor of New York State Eliot Sp(r)itzer prove. In Berlin, people would raise a few eyebrows but not give such a shit, unless say Angie M was caught pole dancing somewhere. What an example that second job would set for the Greeks to get more industrious in tough times.

In their defense, what little I know of Bobo, he is beyond reproach. Norjan has his whacky yet endearing eccentricities. While I think his high class fantasy is more than a little delusional, the idea of being with an educated, cultured, interesting courtesan is not. Artemis conversations can be legendary in their nothingness. It is almost by definition difficult to find elegant, refined, cultured and volcanic women in the business because, as Charlie rightly said, such women have no problem attracting men and usually find the solution of marriage with an affair here and there safer, simpler, and more lucrative over the long haul.

Norjan-I can only say that the Richard Gere / Charlie Sheen (a bad example as he was with a number of low lifers) fantasy better be worth it because it can easily become a classic case of "be careful what you wish for". The pressure to justify the expense, the pressure to perform, etc may act like little worms in your brain. Also, the high price puts huge pressure on the women who feel they will have to be some ultimate something and submit to their renter's every whim. I cannot justify it, though I will sheepishly admit once or twice to having tried, not to achieve some vicarious aristocratic thrill (Count von RB is not moved by such things) but rather just because they were scorchingly hot. Was it worth it to me? No. In flagrante, it did require a deliberate meditation to ratchet back pressure and expectations and just calmly let things flow. Maybe being able to do this, to overcome the pressure part is part of the fantasy and proving of one`s manliness. For me, it was a surprising pain in the ass. Ultimately the sessions were nice, but really, not worth it. Kimino's $5 shake reference applies.

I think the sweet spot is right in the middle (no pun intended this time). Just find a great girl, easy and nice to talk with, who has a brain, who does not charge an arm and a leg, where there is low pressure on both sides to allow a bit of genuine chemistry and mutual attraction, to flow, without all sorts of baggage. And that brother mongers, with some effort to be sure, is most def available here in Ho Haupstadt.

My 2 bits. Anyway, the drugs are starting to wear off and boys, it is sunny summer time in Berlin, nymphets and nymphos are über alles. So perhaps let us just maybe return to our roots here. I for one am waiting for Wanking to report on his decidedly down-market adventures in Berlin the past few days. RB

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1299597]Charlie-we were just wondering as to your whereabouts recently so nice to see you back on the grid.

Don't completely agree with your Berlin assessment. The concentration of wealth and thus those expensive moths drawn to such flames is of course no where near what it is in the big financial or power capitals. However, while not over the top the way it is in London, NY. LA, or say various Middle Eastern hotbeds, it is surely here. Berlin is a powerful seat of government, it has a large constellation of global media firms, surprising biotech sector, and more than enough wealth to accommodate a number of pricey tutes. While the sheer quantity of expensive booty is, as you say lacking, it is surely available. Case in point the old Bel Ami villa, and there are various websites pushing high rates for high rollers.

I for one am waiting for Wanking to report on his decidedly down-market adventures in Berlin the past few days. RB[/QUOTE]Great points mate. I am trying to think of a city of the import of Berlin as cheap AND GREAT as Berlin (all round cost of housing, living, food, wine, sports, trim etc). I have lived in 28 major world cities, never in Berlin but outside of say Sydney, Australia with its perfect set-up in all ways (I rate it a 98/100 town). As far as "cold weather" towns, NY has its big pluses (90/100) BUT for colder climate places, Berlin seems to be the bees knees for me. If I get the chance I will move here.

These two clubs share the same address, Grunewaldstraße 23.

Anyone has info on this? Anyone visited "Sex in the citi"? Only found a very old report with not much details.

Also, I'm stuck with this list: Prestige, Royal, VK, Tiffany, Liberty, Odette, Monrouge, (KD). Any new places in this price / quality range?

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1299702]These two clubs share the same address, Grunewaldstraße 23.

Anyone has info on this? Anyone visited "Sex in the citi"? Only found a very old report with not much details.

Also, I'm stuck with this list: Prestige, Royal, VK, Tiffany, Liberty, Odette, Monrouge, (KD). Any new places in this price / quality range?

Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Hi Kimino,

That list is pretty complete unless you want to start exploring a lower range bordellos in Neuköln, Wedding, Pankow, Steiglitz and a couple others.

As for the other

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8105U1WY9ro[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1299702]Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Celine 69

My verdict ****

[url]http://www.celine-69.de/girl.php?gid=6[/url]

Good and relaxed athmosphere, nice quiet girl with a beautiful smile. Imagine a Polish Mona Lisa. 45 minutes 80 E included 2 x BBBJ FS. No kissing (extra?). GFE potential high. Will repeat.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1299666]Berlin seems to be the bees knees for me. If I get the chance I will move here.[/QUOTE]B-For a swashbuckling buckeroo man-of-the-world such as yourself, there is only one suitable solution: Baghdad. Berlin way too tame for a man of your talents. You will get bored. With your grasp of cultures, the Green Zone beckons. You can turn into the Red Zone.

Last night was my first night in Berlin. I'd been Mongering like a Rock Star for 4 days, with a group of 8 Mongers in Frankfurt at the FKK Clubs, (including the administrator of this Forum) , and was completely Drained.

The Hotel recomended a certain area in town for dinner and I ended up in this Bar. [url]http://bellinilounge.de/wordpress/[/url]

Up and down that street, about every 50 yards, was a a gorgeous Street Walker, so I had to stop and interview a couple of them. The price I was quoted was $80 Euro for 1 hour.

Well I sat down at the Bar and started talking to this friendly German guy and he gave me the run down. The girls are Clean and are checked every two weeks and you get what you pay for.

I'm going over there again tonight, but will probably Pass, since I'm still recovering from the Frankfurt FKK Clubs, but these girls at $80 Euro an hour seem like a good value and I thought I'd pass it along.

Exon

[QUOTE=Exon123; 1300434]Last night was my first night in Berlin. I'd been Mongering like a Rock Star for 4 days, with a group of 8 Mongers in Frankfurt at the FKK Clubs, (including the administrator of this Forum) , and was completely Drained.

The Hotel recomended a certain area in town for dinner and I ended up in this Bar.

[url]http://bellinilounge.de/wordpress/[/url]

Up and down that street, about every 50 yards, was a a gorgeous Street Walker, so I had to stop and interview a couple of them. The price I was quoted was $80 Euro for 1 hour.

Well I sat down at the Bar and started talking to this friendly German guy and he gave me the run down. The girls are Clean and are checked every two weeks and you get what you pay for.

I'm going over there again tonight, but will probably Pass, since I'm still recovering from the Frankfurt FKK Clubs, but these girls at $80 Euro an hour seem like a good value and I thought I'd pass it along.

Exon[/QUOTE]Well good luck to you. I have to wonder if you were not speaking with one of the girl's pimps. I have never heard anything good about the Oranienburgstr. Hookers here or on the German forums. The Germans steer clear more or less completely as they know what that €80 will get you-into the room where the up sell starts. Everything from taking off the bra to touching the breasts will be a few more euros.

Prove me wrong. But I think a safer bet would be Artemis.

A

I will be berlin next month.

Can you recommand a young lady at

Kishima for massage&65311;

Can I touch the body (eg. Breast, even the pussy)

Of the young lady when I enjoy the massage

[QUOTE=Brasil007; 1300517]I will be berlin next month.

Can you recommand a young lady at

Kishima for massage&65311;

Can I touch the body (eg. Breast, even the pussy)

Of the young lady when I enjoy the massage[/QUOTE]No you will not be able to touch the girl at Kashima. If you want that best try a massage parlour, Maybe Ekstase or Harmonie. But still here everything is YMMV.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1300444]Well good luck to you. I have to wonder if you were not speaking with one of the girl's pimps. I have never heard anything good about the Oranienburgstr. Hookers here or on the German forums. The Germans steer clear more or less completely as they know what that €80 will get you-into the room where the up sell starts. Everything from taking off the bra to touching the breasts will be a few more euros.

Prove me wrong. But I think a safer bet would be Artemis.

A[/QUOTE]I'm just reporting what I saw and was told. I did Not sample any of the product.

Your more than likely right, Berlin is an expensive town and $80 Euro may not be the right number, but that's what they were quoting

[QUOTE=Exon123; 1300434]Last night was my first night in Berlin. I'd been Mongering like a Rock Star for 4 days, with a group of 8 Mongers in Frankfurt at the FKK Clubs, (including the administrator of this Forum) , and was completely Drained.

The Hotel recomended a certain area in town for dinner and I ended up in this Bar.

[url]http://bellinilounge.de/wordpress/[/url]

Up and down that street, about every 50 yards, was a a gorgeous Street Walker, so I had to stop and interview a couple of them. The price I was quoted was $80 Euro for 1 hour.

Well I sat down at the Bar and started talking to this friendly German guy and he gave me the run down. The girls are Clean and are checked every two weeks and you get what you pay for.

I'm going over there again tonight, but will probably Pass, since I'm still recovering from the Frankfurt FKK Clubs, but these girls at $80 Euro an hour seem like a good value and I thought I'd pass it along.

Exon[/QUOTE]Part of my previous report was about these street girls. I refer you to this report.

What they said to me was that if you wanted pussyfuck (as they called it) you could negotiate in the room a price over and above the 80e. The sugested price was 100 to 150e. This could bring the overall cost to 230e. You could have two sessions in Artemis for 260e. I saw a video on another well known web site which showed one of these sexy good looking girls being interviewed by an American man. When asked the price the answer was 230e for sex. This agrees with what I was told.

I was not tempted by their offers to negotiate in a room. Most of them were big strong girls who looked as if they could look after themselves. I would not like to get into a disagreement with them.

[QUOTE=Exon123; 1300741]I'm just reporting what I saw and was told. I did Not sample any of the product.

Your more than likely right, Berlin is an expensive town and $80 Euro may not be the right number, but that's what they were quoting[/QUOTE]Refer to my previous report on page 10.

[QUOTE=Exon123; 1300741]I'm just reporting what I saw and was told. I did Not sample any of the product.

Your more than likely right, Berlin is an expensive town and $80 Euro may not be the right number, but that's what they were quoting[/QUOTE]Refer to my previous report on page 10.

Recently I had to go to Berlin for business and was curious how the sex scene was. It was more than 10 years ago that I visited the city for the last time. I did some research on this forum and 3 places attracted my curiosity, Erlebniswohnung, Caligula, and of course Artemis. Unfortunately I had only a few hours of freedom at the end of the evening, so the Erlebniswohnung was not an option as they close at 10pm, and I thought that rushing through Artemis was a shame.

I read the mostly negative reviews of Caligula but decided to go there anyhow. If I didn't like it, I could have at least some free drinks. The club was actually quite close to my hotel, but as it was raining I took a taxi to this 'special place' as the cab driver called it.

After paying the 99 Euros fee and passing through the entry I was immediately received by a lady asking me if this was my first time to the club, and if I needed some explanation. At first I was cautious and was expecting some kind of up-selling, or rip-off story. In fact this girl seemed to be the person managing the place, and gave me a brief explanation of what I already read on their website: free drinks, and 20 minutes sex (BJ & intercourse, all with a condom) with any girl. She mentioned that there were about 12 girls present that evening.

I decided to sit at the bar, have a drink, and watch the scene. There were about 20 men, and it seemed indeed that there were around 12 girls. The place has a large L-shaped bar on one side. 2 stages for the girls in the middle and some tables and seats at the other end. Girls who are available are 'dancing' on stage and wait for a guy to contact them. I did not see any girl going to a guy, except when she had one waiting for her.

After a while I had figured out which were the most popular girls of this club, as soon as they returned from their room, they had at least one guy waiting for them. My personal theory is to avoid those girls (although they are usually the most good looking ones) because their service usually is poor. Instead I tried to figure out which one was not too bored, in a good mood, and looking for some action.

I decided to go for dark haired one, slim body, not too young, who appeared to be from Greece (sorry forgot her name). After asking her if she wanted to go with me to the room, I got a big smile and followed her to the back of place. After passing a door I entered a corridor with a number of small rooms left and right. Her room was small, with a matrass on the floor, a small sink, and on the wall a menu with the options she offered. I had a small chat with her to figure out which option she did not like (it was anal) , so I decided to go for BBBCTJ for 20 Euros. The overall experience was very good, she was not in a hurry at all, allowed me to touch her, and gave me what I asked for.

When returning to the main room I noticed that the atmosphere had changed slightly, a couple of guys who apparently drank quite a bit had entered. This was also the first time that I saw that a guy (who was not behaving very well) was rejected by one girl after the other. While observing the scene the girl who was managing the place came back and asked me if I was with a girl already, and if everything was OK.

I decided to check my theory about the most popular girls again, but now from the other angle, so I decided to pick a very hot looking dark haired one. She took me to her room, mentioned that she did not offer any options. And the rest of the story is as I expected. But it is nice to just fuck a great looking girl as well.

Overall I liked my couple of hours in Caligula and will come back there. However, next time I'll make sure to have a little more time in Berlin and check out the other clubs.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1299382]Your new government is about to effectively throw all the rich people out of France Bobo[/QUOTE]Give me France any day, The US is out of date.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1300614]No you will not be able to touch the girl at Kashima. If you want that best try a massage parlour, Maybe Ekstase or Harmonie. But still here everything is YMMV.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi, AM, so kind guy. If I expect really good massage (professional) and final sex together, which place will be ideal.

[QUOTE=Nickc;1301327]Give me France any day, The US is out of date.[/QUOTE]I am not aware of either of these bordellos in Berlin. Do you have addresses or weblinks, that are not out of date?

[QUOTE=Brasil007;1301333]Hi, AM, so kind guy. If I expect really good massage (professional) and final sex together, which place will be ideal.[/QUOTE]Best look to a bordello for that. While sex at a massage parlour is not unheard of, it is rare and probably requires that you develops a relationship with the girl where by she trusts you (and maybe likes you) enough to offer it. Massage parlours are not bordellos and most enquiries will be rejected.

The websites are not so hard to find using the usual methods.

AM

Kamilla Dee: I was disappointed by the lineup. The website has ton of women on it, but when I arrived I was only shown two girls. I was told that the other girls were occupied. Upon leaving I saw three additional girls. My problem with this place is the small selection. The price is in on the internet which I is 80 Euros for 30 minutes. The place would be better if they had more of a selection.

[QUOTE=Neworlean;1301624]Kamilla Dee: I was disappointed by the lineup. The website has ton of women on it, but when I arrived I was only shown two girls. I was told that the other girls were occupied. Upon leaving I saw three additional girls. My problem with this place is the small selection. The price is in on the internet which I is 80 Euros for 30 minutes. The place would be better if they had more of a selection.[/QUOTE]You had a somewhat similar experience at Artemis (see thread) and my comments apply here re RTTF and summer and time. Not sure from your report if this was Saturday (less choices) vs during the week (more choices), as the bordellos are some what counter to the Artemis cycle which actually is a good thing. Not sure what you mean in your "price" sentence, but perhaps it is a coded message intended for The Circus.

KD clearly posts who is at least scheduled and when, each day. You have only yourself to blame if you have not called ahead to at least check availability to improve your odds, even if you don't want to make a booking.

Of course, all mongers would love to just pitch up and be greeted by 20 available, dripping, nubile GFEs. Bordellos just don't work that way and you ignore the Borg-like wisdom of the Forum at your peril.

One of the previous girls actually turned up at anothe agency, [url]http://www.newsescort.de/girl.php?gid=[/url]%2069.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1299365]Hi,

A couple of the new girls look pretty ordinary and the 'zierlich' factor ain't what it was with most of the girls being 170cm+, whereas little cuties used to be very much the order of the day with KZ.

Nicole looks the cutest of the new bunch to me, followed by Michelle. I am in town in a week or so, and the likelihood is that I will have news to report.

C[/QUOTE]

Like I said in my other post, my travel / work schedule does not generally allow me to stay in a certain city for to many consecutive days. But I think this place is better than Artemis because you don't have to pay an entry fee and you can leave if you don't see anything you like. I would return to this place. Work is my first priority and hobbying is my second. I am just trying to provide an accurate report of what happened when I visited.

And just so you know in South America there are many bordella's with 20 girls waiting.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1301645]You had a somewhat similar experience at Artemis (see thread) and my comments apply here re RTTF and summer and time. Not sure from your report if this was Saturday (less choices) vs during the week (more choices) , as the bordellos are some what counter to the Artemis cycle which actually is a good thing. Not sure what you mean in your "price" sentence, but perhaps it is a coded message intended for The Circus.

KD clearly posts who is at least scheduled and when, each day. You have only yourself to blame if you have not called ahead to at least check availability to improve your odds, even if you don't want to make a booking.

Of course, all mongers would love to just pitch up and be greeted by 20 available, dripping, nubile GFEs. Bordellos just don't work that way and you ignore the Borg-like wisdom of the Forum at your peril.[/QUOTE]

Hello all. I will be in Berlin Schonefeld for an approx 7. 5 hr layover. I figure that minus taxi time to and from the airport and other delays, I may have 3-3. 5 hours or so to have fun.

Keeping in mind this 3 hour window, what is my best bet? Rather than an FKK with its entrance fee, I think I would prefer a bordello or private apartment or even a single provider.

Recommendations please!

As usual, I will report back.

[QUOTE=Neworlean; 1301743]. Etc.

And just so you know in South America there are many bordella's with 20 girls waiting.[/QUOTE]I'm afraid that you can not find such (big) brothels in Berlin : probably Angus can confirm that.

To a (some) forumer (s) :

Everybody can spend the money he wants for sex but I'm afraid that's a great mistake to think that :

1) meetings can be nice ONLY if we spend a lot of money.

2) ladies who work in brothels can not provide nice meetings

With that amount of time you have an infinite number of choices. But KD, Royal and Liberty are so close-up by each other that you will find something you fancy there.

[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme; 1301819]Hello all. I will be in Berlin Schonefeld for an approx 7. 5 hr layover. I figure that minus taxi time to and from the airport and other delays, I may have 3-3. 5 hours or so to have fun.

Keeping in mind this 3 hour window, what is my best bet? Rather than an FKK with its entrance fee, I think I would prefer a bordello or private apartment or even a single provider.

Recommendations please!

As usual, I will report back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme; 1301819]Hello all. I will be in Berlin Schonefeld for an approx 7. 5 hr layover. I figure that minus taxi time to and from the airport and other delays, I may have 3-3. 5 hours or so to have fun.

Keeping in mind this 3 hour window, what is my best bet? Rather than an FKK with its entrance fee, I think I would prefer a bordello or private apartment or even a single provider.

Recommendations please!

As usual, I will report back.[/QUOTE]Ciao.

As Bobby Cph was saying, in the same area you have Royal, KD and VanKampen. All in 15/20 min walk range, with Royal and VanKampen at the extremes.

Taxi from schonefeld will take some 20/30 min depending on the time of day. If I remeber correctly I usually pay around 30/40 euros from Artemis (or that area) to Schonefeld.

By public transport you will pay around 3 euros and it will take approx the double time. You will save a lot of money, if that's an issue.

So you will probably have more than 3. 5 hr to have fun.

It really depends what you want to do. In a brothel, you go there, pick the girl, fuck and leave. If you want to have more than one girl you wil need to exit, go to the next bothel and start over. This assuming that the different brothels all have a lineup that matches your tastes. This depends from the time of the day.

If you go to an FKK, you go direct there, you have a girl, relax, have a sauna, eat, then another girl and so on. When time is up you go back to the airport. No walking around, looking for places etc.

This assuming that th elineup at the FKK is decent. And here again it depends on th eday and the time.

HTH.

Kimino

Thank you Kimino and Bobby.

Kimino, I am coming from the US so there may be a wait in customs, a wait for luggage (I am switching airlines) plus I want to be back at the airport an hour before my flight leaves.

That's why I think a 7. 5 hour layover may work out to 3. 5 hours or so of fun. It's good to know how much the taxis cost; thank you! The 80 euro entrance fee at Artemis isn't worth it for 3-3. 5 hours.

I think I will take the metro to the area you mentioned- I am a new yorker and am always curious about other cities' subways. Then bang a girl, relax, have another girl, than a taxi back to the airport.

We shall see.

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1301953]With that amount of time you have an infinite number of choices. But KD, Royal and Liberty are so close-up by each other that you will find something you fancy there.[/QUOTE]I found the KD website and there are beautiful girls; what I did not find was a schedule of who will be working there on the day I am in Berlin. Do they post this info on their site? If so, where?

Also, do Royal and Liberty have websites? A quick google search and I couldn't find them.

[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme; 1302122]I found the KD website and there are beautiful girls; what I did not find was a schedule of who will be working there on the day I am in Berlin. Do they post this info on their site? If so, where?

Also, do Royal and Liberty have websites? A quick google search and I couldn't find them.[/QUOTE]The schedule on the KD site is only in the German side of the site. Keep in mind that just dropping by you will often find the particular lady you might want occupied. With KD I always called ahead.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/unsere_ladies.php[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme; 1302119]Thank you Kimino and Bobby.

Kimino, I am coming from the US so there may be a wait in customs, a wait for luggage (I am switching airlines) plus I want to be back at the airport an hour before my flight leaves.[/QUOTE]Cool!

Here is the last link for the clubs in that area.

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/[/url]

Have a nice trip.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1302129]The schedule on the KD site is only in the German side of the site. Keep in mind that just dropping by you will often find the particular lady you might want occupied. With KD I always called ahead.

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/presence-1.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/unsere_ladies.php[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Angus, while googling Royal I found your blog. Great stuff!

You have me interested in some of the lower cost bordellos. I noticed Tomsen and another were close together. Would you still recommend any of those lower cost ones? From experience I know that paying more doesn't always guarantee better service.

Oh and on my return flight in August I again have a layover of 7. 5 hrs but at night, from 10 pm Sunday to 5:30 am Monday. Are any of the bordellos open at 11 or 12 pm on a SUnday?

[QUOTE=Cherchezfemme; 1302148]Angus, while googling Royal I found your blog. Great stuff!

You have me interested in some of the lower cost bordellos. I noticed Tomsen and another were close together. Would you still recommend any of those lower cost ones? From experience I know that paying more doesn't always guarantee better service.

Oh and on my return flight in August I again have a layover of 7. 5 hrs but at night, from 10 pm Sunday to 5:30 am Monday. Are any of the bordellos open at 11 or 12 pm on a SUnday?[/QUOTE]If you had more time I might think it a better idea. But the cheaper places do tend to be more hit and miss and you might end up running around trying to find a girl who suits you rather than getting the job done.

While it is true that paying more does not necessarily mean a better time, I do find that the odds are better at a higher priced bordello. Also much depends upon the time of day you are speaking of. Too early is not good and neither is too late.

Tomsen is a fine small bordello but I found that to get the girl I wanted I often had to book her or show up and then go back when she was free. They have generally a smaller selection.

Sunday evening late, really the best option at that time is Artemis. There are places open in Neuköln but they can be hard to locate and travel to and the selection will be limited.

AN

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1302156]Sunday evening late, really the best option at that time is Artemis. There are places open in Neuköln but they can be hard to locate and travel to and the selection will be limited.

AN[/QUOTE]Agree on this. Rest too hit and miss.

One stupid question, are you sure your US flight arrives at Schoenefeld (SXF) Airport vs Tegel (TXL) airport? I don't see any US flights in or out of SXF.

TXL would be a help actually-quite close to Artemis.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1302306]One stupid question, are you sure your US flight arrives at Schoenefeld (SXF) Airport vs Tegel (TXL) airport? I don't see any US flights in or out of SXF.

TXL would be a help actually-quite close to Artemis.[/QUOTE]If you do fly into Tegel there are a couple of bordellos almost right on the front doorstep, Klix and Saphire.

[url]http://www.klix37.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.intime-modelle.de/index.html[/url]

If had to chose between the two I would probably go for Klix with lots of young Romanian and Bulgarian talent. I have a friend who goes there almost weekly and swears by the place. Both are open on Sundays but only until 18:00 and I imagine the line up is not quite so good.

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1302306]Agree on this. Rest too hit and miss.

One stupid question, are you sure your US flight arrives at Schoenefeld (SXF) Airport vs Tegel (TXL) airport? I don't see any US flights in or out of SXF.

TXL would be a help actually-quite close to Artemis.[/QUOTE]And to further quote myself, Artemis will let you store bags just to the right of their reception desk, for free. If you are switching airports, that could also be helpful.

I also think you may get through immigration faster in Berlin than elsewhere-airports not so stressed like major hubs, so you might have a little more time.

You can think of the entrance fee at Artemis as an insurance premium (as surely 1 of the staff will meet your needs) , a meal ticket, a pool and sauna ticket, a baggage locker, and assuming you have actually 3-5 hrs there, doing 2-3 lovelies would actually cost the same or less than in the very hit-and-miss-on-a-Sunday bordellos. Penny wise and poon foolish?

Just check your airport info as it could be off.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1299398]Norjan. Man, have you stirred up a shit storm here. Look what all this has started, taking us away from field reports, in the middle of summer bung season.

Anyway, I want to warn you. Just because you may be able to order some high class ho, that does not mean she won't have some high class germs.

Or even low class germs. Germs so low class even high class antiseptic soap won't be able to remove 'them.

So no matter how posh her accent, education, and upbringing, you must remain vigilant. Vaginas cleanius maximus. Semper thigh.[/QUOTE]Been away on a holiday (Spain) with company, not able to view the forum.

Wel, l little did I know I have stirred up a storm. For what? The use of the words "high class"? For saying money were no issue for my fantasy?

I used the word "high class" just in lack of a better one since english is not my spoken language.

To (hopefully) make things simple for you guys to understand:

My fantasy is to have an escort girl coming to my hotel room looking like she were / could be a Playboy Playmate. As beautiful as possible, as female as possible, as perfect as possible. Perfect nails, perfect body, perfect skin, perfect hair, blistering white teeth, beautiful make up, nice perfume, nice clothes, sexy expensive lingerie etc. Thats what I meant by "high class".

My desire is not to pay as much as possible, it's not the price that turns me on, it's the looks and the bahaviour of the woman and I just think that such a woman, my fantasy woman, is aware of her outward beauty and therefore able to join the more well paid escort agencies. That's where the price comes in. I also don't think that such a girl work in a brothel.

I think it was Charlie who mentioned that excellence was the driver of my quest ands thats about it.

Also, is it such a big deal that I don't care too much about the price for fulfilling a nice fantasy?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1302416]My fantasy is to have an escort girl coming to my hotel room looking like she were / could be a Playboy Playmate. As beautiful as possible, as female as possible, as perfect as possible. Perfect nails, perfect body, perfect skin, perfect hair, blistering white teeth, beautiful make up, nice perfume, nice clothes, sexy expensive lingerie etc.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=D H Lawrence]The cruelest thing a man can do to a woman is to portray her as perfection.[/QUOTE]But then some say he was gay.

AM

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1302416]Been away on a holiday (Spain) with company, not able to view the forum.

Wel, l little did I know I have stirred up a storm. For what? The use of the words "high class"? For saying money were no issue for my fantasy?[/QUOTE]Hello Norjan,

Considering your different posts, I find that you are a courteous person.

I did talk about your arrogance because in one of your post I felt you meant that ladies who worked in brothels were "bull s.".

A forumer thought that I talked about money and probably thinking that we were still living in the "cold war" introduced ideologico-political considerations into the "debate".

To be clear, if you wrote : "I would like to meet the best escort and I'm ready to pay any price"; I wouldn't see any arrogance.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1302416]. she were / could be a Playboy Playmate. As beautiful as possible, as female as possible, as perfect as possible.[/QUOTE]Do you realize that it's very subjective? It's only you who can choose such ladies!

Most of escort agencies don't show the ladies' face so it won't be easy.

However, some "foreigners-oriented" Czech agencies publish their ladies' photos on their website (actually, normally, these web sites are not avalaible in Czech Republic).

I used Czech agencies mostly in the early 2000, and some of them don't exist anymore (praguebunnies. 22wildcats.) , some still exist :

[url]http://www.alitgroup.com/[/url]

(former alicevipagency)

[url]http://www.passions.co.at/[/url]

(former praguepassions)

In early 2000, many Czech escorts were beautiful and furthermore with a very good background (University's graduates).

I'm afraid that many (most?) of the current Czech escorts are not at this level anymore.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1302416].

Nice perfume, nice clothes, sexy expensive lingerie etc.[/QUOTE]Just that those escorts weren't rich enough (at least valid in the early 2000) to have "expensive lingerie" BUT you can buy that for them (the same with perfume and clothes you like)!

Well, they don't live in Berlin BUT they can travel!

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1302600]Hello Norjan,

Considering your different posts, I find that you are a courteous person.

I did talk about your arrogance because in one of your post I felt you meant that ladies who worked in brothels were "bull s.".

A forumer thought that I talked about money and probably thinking that we were still living in the "cold war" introduced ideologico-political considerations into the "debate".

To be clear, if you wrote : "I would like to meet the best escort and I'm ready to pay any price"; I wouldn't see any arrogance.

Do you realize that it's very subjective? It's only you who can choose such ladies!

Most of escort agencies don't show the ladies' face so it won't be easy.

However, some "foreigners-oriented" Czech agencies publish their ladies' photos on their website (actually, normally, these web sites are not avalaible in ).

I used Czech agencies mostly in the early 2000, and some of them don't exist anymore (praguebunnies. 22wildcats.) , some still exist :

[url]http://www.alitgroup.com/[/url]

(former alicevipagency)

[url]http://www.passions.co.at/[/url]

(former praguepassions)

In early 2000, many Czech escorts were beautiful and furthermore with a very good background (University's graduates).

I'm afraid that many (most?) of the current Czech escorts are not at this level anymore.

Just that those escorts weren't rich enough (at least valid in the early 2000) to have "expensive lingerie" BUT you can buy that for them (the same with perfume and clothes you like)!

Well, they don't live in Berlin BUT they can travel![/QUOTE]Ok Bobo.

Yes I realize it's very subjective and I have seen that the german agencies do'nt show the girls faces, at least not the eyes but I've found a couple of ladies at venusescorts and targetescorts who looks amazing. Most of them not available in Berlin but in Cologne or Dusseldorf so maybe I have to take a trip to one of those cities.

Or Czech Republic? Thanks for the web site links.

However my next upcoming trip will be Berlin so I'll try to find what I'm looking for there or, maybe, to avoid "little worms in my brain" go the Angus way and check out some of the best brothels.

If I don't like the girls there, there's always Artemis.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1302739]Ok Bobo.

Yes I realize it's very subjective and I have seen that the german agencies do'nt show the girls faces, at least not the eyes but I've found a couple of ladies at venusescorts and targetescorts who looks amazing. Most of them not available in Berlin but in Cologne or Dusseldorf so maybe I have to take a trip to one of those cities.

Or Czech Republic? Thanks for the web site links.[/QUOTE]Norjan-have you considered London for this fantasy? It is expensive but as far as I can see has some of the best talent anywhere for take out. If you have the means it could be just the thing you are looking for plus less language difficulties as I assume that you are pretty fluent with English.

Just a thought.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1302844]Norjan-have you considered London for this fantasy? It is expensive but as far as I can see has some of the best talent anywhere for take out. If you have the means it could be just the thing you are looking for plus less language difficulties as I assume that you are pretty fluent with English.

Just a thought.

AM[/QUOTE]Yes I have, if I just had an agency I could trust and with the "right" girls thats an alternative.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1302739]Ok Bobo.

Yes I realize it's very subjective and I have seen that the german agencies do'nt show the girls faces, at least not the eyes but I've found a couple of ladies at venusescorts and targetescorts who looks amazing. Most of them not available in Berlin but in Cologne or Dusseldorf so maybe I have to take a trip to one of those cities.

Or Czech Republic? Thanks for the web site links.

However my next upcoming trip will be Berlin so I'll try to find what I'm looking for there or, maybe, to avoid "little worms in my brain" go the Angus way and check out some of the best brothels.

If I don't like the girls there, there's always Artemis.

Norjan[/QUOTE]1) Most of the escorts can come to Berlin to meet you.

(I remember when I met escorts in Prague, in general it was easier for escorts who came from another city or from Slovakia to "escort" me (city's visits, restaurants, cafes, . Etc.) than for escorts who did live in Prague (but Prague is far smaller than Berlin)

2) Prague is not very far from Berlin (probably closer than Koln / Cologne or Dusseldorf)

3) Another Czech agency I used in the past (but the ladies I met don't work anymore) and that still exists : [url]www.karolinas.com[/url]

Thanks Bobo, really appreciate your info.

I said money is no issue, but I do'nt think I'm ready to pay their traveling costs at this moment, when not having met the girl before.

Will try to find a Berlin based escort but have'nt found it yet.

At Kamilla Dee there is one girl that looks OK, Clarissa, anybody who have been with her and able to comment?

Norjan

Norjan,

An Artemis girl that I was very fond of (actually my ATF Artemis and probably close to the top all time ATF) worked for this agency for a while. She claimed that it was a very reputable agency and well run. I can not say anything about the particular girls though. The girl I knew is long gone from there.

[url]http://www.escort-in-berlin.com/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1303146]Thanks Bobo, really appreciate your info.

I said money is no issue, but I do'nt think I'm ready to pay their traveling costs at this moment, when not having met the girl before.

Will try to find a Berlin based escort but have'nt found it yet.

At Kamilla Dee there is one girl that looks OK, Clarissa, anybody who have been with her and able to comment?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan,

Did you consult the Berlin Intim webpage?

They have a section for so-called "high class callgirls":

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Kontakte/HighClassEscort-Girls.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Exon123; 1300741]I'm just reporting what I saw and was told. I did Not sample any of the product.

Your more than likely right, Berlin is an expensive town and $80 Euro may not be the right number, but that's what they were quoting[/QUOTE]Oranienburgerstrasse girls.

I commented on this in report #3977.

These girls call it pussyfuck and it will cost about 230e all in.

Some of these girls are indeed big and strong and look as if they could look after themselves.

I would not like to have a disagreement with them in an room behind a locked door.

I think they have antenna and can detect a monger at the end of the street. Too the prices appear to be the same. Is there some kind of tik tak going on or central control?

You can get three sessions at Artemis for 260e.

I have been visiting Whormany around 8 times per year since 2005, and have only just made my first trip to Berlin. For years there didn't seem to be much of a flat rate scene, and I suppose that's what kept me from visiting. I really had a great time in Berlin and I may repeat it on my next trip, although the Bareback treats of the NRW are always so tempting.

[b]Day 1 – Wednesday June 27th[/b]

My flight arrived on time to Berlin Schonefeld around 9pm. The train station is around 10 minutes walk away. I took a train to Alexanderplatz, then the U2 U-bahn to Bulowstrasse where my hotel the [url]www.hotel-berlin-aldea.de[/url] is located 2 minutes walk away. I got to the hotel around 10. 30pm. I picked this hotel because its right next to the Kurfurstenstrasse RLD and there are also some ladies hanging out outside the hotel. Fine budget hotel with really big rooms for the money. All rooms are twin. I got a single rate excluding breakfast of €32 per night. WIFI was a bit wonky but I got it working eventually. All rooms have a safe which is a bonus. I would certainly stay in this hotel again.

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1590-Photo-Gallery&p=1303356&viewfull=1#post1303356][color=Orange]See my Street Girls Report and Pics HERE[/url][/b][/color]

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1590-Photo-Gallery&p=1303358&viewfull=1#post1303358][color=Orange]And HERE[/url][/b][/color]

After settling into the hotel, It was too late to hit a flatrate club, so I decided to have a walk about and check out the street ladies. I hadn't wanked 3 days and my balls were well full. Had a good walk around the area for about an hour first, and talked to several girls. Most were rough enough but a few cuties there too. Decided I just wanted to lick some smelly holes and get a BBBJ! I wanted to do a girl outdoors and didn't want to chance her robbing anything, so I popped back to the hotel, and left all my valuables including my phone there. I took 20 euro with me. 1 x 10, and 2 x 5's. I went back to the area, and found this very good looking young Bulgarian around 20 years old. Man what a pretty face. Wearing tight Jeans and a sexy black top. Lovely perky titten. She was about 5'4', slim and a lovely bubble butt. Yummy. I haggled with her, and we agreed on me licking her and her giving me a BBBJ for 15 euro.

I wanted to do it outdoors, so she brought me to this waste ground right on Kurfurstenstrasse. The ground looked way too dirty to either kneel on, or lie down on. So it was a standing up or down on the hunkers affair. I paid her and she saw I had 5 euro left. She pleaded that for 5 more she would do such better service, so fuck it, I gave it to her. Man we were practically visible to the road 20 meters away, which added to the thrill. I wanted to lick her first, and took my time pulling down her tight jeans, and her black thong down to her knees. I then buried my face into her arse, and YES, there was a slight SMELL OF SHIT LOL! I bent her over, and pushed my tongue in further, and gave her anus a good licking. Got tired down on my hunkers and ended up kneeling on the dirty ground! Turned her around and checked out her pussy, shaved and smelly but a proper healthy smell, a bit like BO. Pushed her in against the wall, and while I was kneeling, I took her jeans off her left leg, and pulled her left leg over my shoulder, so her pussy was on my face and I had great access to it. I really licked her hard, and she got wet. I was very horny now licking her and feeling her arse. Man her pussy smelled great. Got my hands up her top, and she opened her bra. Lovely firm young perky titten hand fulls. Then it was time to swap around. I stood in against the wall, pulled me jeans down to my ankles, (I left my jocks in the hotel hehe) and she got down on her hunkers and proceeded to suck my now very hard cock. While she sucked I reached over and rubbed her arse up and down, and fingered her anus lightly. She sucked and wanked me for the next few minutes. I then exploded a massive cum that hit her on the side of her neck and a little also went on the shoulder of black top. Immediately she got a big angry and wanted another 10 euro from me for the jizz I accidentally shot onto her t-shirt. I laughed and told her I had no more money on me, which I think she knew was true. Pulled a tissue from my pocket and wiped my cock off. The whole thing lasted less than 15 minutes but it was a good intense short session. Back to the hotel, washed my cock and off to bed. Great start to the trip.

[b]Day 2 – Thursday 28th June[/b]

Up around 10 am, brekkie and then took my camera and camcorder across the road to get snap and clips of the daytime ladies. First girl I photographed was this [b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=171495&d=1342130780][color=Orange]Sexy Young Blonde thing.[/url][/b][/color] She was Lovely. I worked my way up town and then visited the famous KA DA WE department store. Wow what a shop. The Harrods of Berlin. Certainly worth a visit if you are the area. Had some lunch and couldn't get that blonde out of my mind. Man what legs she had, and I kept salivating over the pussy and anus that was between those legs. Back to the hotel and I left all my cameras and shit in the room. Took my off underpants, and wore only jeans, t-shrit and crocs. Took 20 euro and some change with me, and went looking for that Blondie.

She was right where I had photographed her two hours earlier. She looked like she was keen for some money. She was in an intense mood and seemed drugged up some way. Still a very sexy girl. I was afraid that she might have recognised me as the guy who took the pics earlier, but she didn't seem to. Alisha was her name and We agreed on DATY and BBBJ in a porn cabin in the big sex shop 50 meters away for €20. See pics of the sex shop and the little porn cabin at the end of the report. It was a tight squeeze for both of us in the porn cabin that is of course only built for one. She was very insistent that I put 2 euro into the slot to get the porn going. I assume that these girls have a deal with the management of the sex shop that if they use their porn cabins for sex that the sex shop at least gets paid the min 2 euro. I can't remember how long the show ran for, maybe 10 minutes, maybe a lot less but we stayed for a few minutes longer until I came. I think the lock only works for the door after you put the money, but I'm not sure as this girls ass in that little skirt was the only thing on my mind. Anyway as I had no money on me, after paying her I didn't care whether the door was locked or not.

Once in there, I took off her little skirt, bent her over and pulled down her completely clean little white panties. Ah Man, she had a perfect little 20 year old ass and pussy. All hairless, fresh smelling of body spray and completely healthy looking. Smelt like she just came out of the shower. In fact she was so clean I was disappointed, I wanted a faint smell of shit and pussy odour. I was on my knees with jeans down, rubbing my hard cock, and for a few glorious minutes I deeply licked both her holes. No finger allowed in either hole though. I was now sorry that I didn't bring my phone or camera because I'm sure she would have let me take a pic of the beautiful ass. She wouldn't take her top off but pulled it up, and I got her lovely little titties out and sucked them briefly. Fuck then she started to complain that time was nearly over! I then sat on the chair and she got on her knees in front of me, and started a BBBJ / HJ combo. Her suck was a bit light but her HJ was more effective. I got about 5 more minutes before I felt myself near coming. She sensed it too and really wanked me fast for the last minute till I shot a couple of fine big spurts that ended all over my jeans that were on the ground. She pulled away as I came and didn't get any jizz on herself. She then left and was out of there in a second. I sat back and gathered myself after this brief but fantastic intense sexual experience. Back to the hotel and had a shower. Washed the jizz blobs off my jeans and left them to dry hanging over the shower. Gathered my things and headed to the Insomnia Gang bang. I bought a €30 euro x 5 day travel card at the U-bahn station which then covered all my travel over the next 5 days.

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3353-Insomnia-Swingers-Club-Berlin&p=1303360&viewfull=1#post1303360][color=Orange]See my Insomnia Report HERE.[/url][/b][/color]

I got back from Insomnia around 1 am, and decided to have a quick walk around the area again. Fuck! There was young Blonde Alisha standing in the same place as she was at 11am when I first saw her this morning. 14 hours later! I felt sad and hoped she hadn't been there for 14 hours straight. Surely she had taken some breaks. I walked over to her and she remembered me, and of course asked me was I horny in her little English. I told her I wasn't, and that I was concerned if she was hungry or thirsty. She said she would like a bottle of coke, so I went across to a little cafe place and bought her a bottle of Coke for €1. 65. She was thankful then I went to the hotel and off to bed. And yes I felt better for buying her the coke.

[b]Day 3 – Friday 29th June[/b]

Up at 10am and decided as it was fine it would be a good day to do the tourist thing. First went out and took a few more pics and clips of the ladies, until two tough looking Pimps in their 30's walked up to me, and told me not to take pics in the area. They were not too threatening really, but I just walked away ignoring them. I did take more pics later as it happened, but that incident made me more aware.

I then got the U2 to Potsdamer Platz and bought a hop on, hop off bus tour ticket for €15. I then spent the day seeing all the main sights, The Wall, Checkpoint Charlie etc. I think its worth seeing all that stuff once anyway if you visit Berlin. In the evening I checked out the Hookers on Oranienburger Strasse. See my street walker reports for details.

Got back to the hotel around 11pm, dumped my cameras and shit. Had a shower and headed to look for a 20 euro quickie. Plenty of sexy young blondes out tonight, and then I saw this one walking around showing off most of her bottom. Walked up to her and told her I wanted to take [b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=171512&d=1342131040][color=Orange]A Pic Of Her Ass[/url][/b][/color]
, and that I would give her a few euro. She agreed immediately. I had €2. 70 in my pocket and I gave her that. I took the pic with my mobile, and after that she asked me If I wanted to fuck her. She was hot enough for sure. She wanted €40 for a fuck, but would do BBBJ and DATY for €20 in the sex shop cabin. I hadn't had any sex all day and was well horny now. So after negotiating her down 5 euro, I agreed to the 15 euro option.

Into the cabin we went. 2 euro into the slot, insisted on by her, just the same as the girl yesterday. Off with her skirt and thong and bent her over the seat. Buried my face into her arse but OH OH! SOMETHING was up. There was a foul smell coming from her pussy. A smell like rotten cheese. I pushed my finger a little into her pussy and it came back covered in a whitish / yellowish foul smelly mucus. She clearly had a yeast infection, the poor girl. I was turned off and lost stiffness immediately. She knew I was upset but insisted on blowing me anyway. I sat in the chair but the damage had been done. I couldn't get turned on at all now with the smell of rotten cheese pussy burned into the nasal section of my brain. So we abandoned and I went to the hotel and to bed. I couldn't get to sleep for a while because of the smell that seemed to be now welded to my top lip.

[b]Day 4 – Saturday – June 30th[/b]

Met our number one ISG Berlin representives, Angus and Rocket Boy at midday. We went and hung out at a little cafe on the Kurfurstenstrasse while checking out the street ladies. I sneakily snapped a few more pics while keeping an eye out for pimps! Great to meet up with those two guys and we had a good ole chat until I had to get ready for Erlebniswohnung.

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin&p=1303362&viewfull=1#post1303362][color=Orange]See my Erlebniswohnung report Here[/url][/b][/color]

After a great 7 hours in Erlebniswohnung, I left and went to the dissapointing [url]http://www.fabriklounge.com/[/url] Swingers club which was the only real let down of my trip. Because it was a let down I won't spend too much time reporting on it. I had seen it advertised on [url]http://www.berlinintim.de/[/url] And only went because of the low entry price of €60 which doesn't include drinks. It does include a tasty buffet though. What is amazing is that this very new club is located at the top floor of meat (excuse the pun LOL) or food factory of some sort that is housed in an industrial estate. You go up an old industrial type elevator complete with the stink of raw meat, and then enter an amazing purpose built club. This is surely one of the finested swingerclub buildings I have been in. Its really luxurious inside. There were 4 couples when I arrived around 11. 30 pm, along with one single lady, and 4 ro 5 single guys. Two of the women in the couples were very attractive, but the single lady was a hideous looking little blonde in her 30's with big bulging eyes who looked like the actor Marty Feldman. When I arrived she was giving some of the single guys BBBJs in the wellness area. I moved in and got some good head off her, but her 'Marty' resemble then got to me and I lost stiffness. I went for a beer, and waited to see what the couples would do. At first they were keeping to themselves and then they all started chatting. All local Germans by the sounds of it. After around an hour of hanging around. 3 of the couples all headed off to the sex rooms that had been unoccupied until then. So of course all the guys followed straight away, but they went into a small couples only area. There was a sign on the door giving strong warning in both German and English that it was a couples only area. I called it a night at that point.

[b]Day 5 – Sunday – July 1st[/b]

Plan was to go shopping couple of hours, then visit [url]www.thermen-berlin.de[/url] Naturist Sauna. Of course I forgot that all the major shops are closed on a Sunday in Berlin. So I went to the Thermen around midday and stayed 4 hours. It was €16 in for the day. Its an older sauna resort at the top of the Europa Shopping center. Not bad but it doesn't have a modern jacuzzi that I could see. Plenty of warm pools of different types but no jacuzzi. Mostly older women in the nude, but over the few hours I saw two lovely young blondes parading around naked.

Then I went for a lovely mean in a Vietnamese restaurant near the hotel. I then readied myself for the Sunday night orgy in Insomnia.

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3353-Insomnia-Swingers-Club-Berlin&p=1303360&viewfull=1#post1303360][color=Orange]See my Insomnia Report HERE.[/url][/b][/color]

[b]Day 6 – Monday – July 2nd[/b]

So final day in Berlin. Plan was to visit the http://www.anni-porsche.de/ GB which is also advertised reguarly in Berlinintim. They had a party scheduled from 11am to 5 pm for €75 which fitted my plans for flying home that evening perfectly. According to the add on Berlinintim, you had to sms them and they would send the number of the appartment in the building at Gneisenaustraße 89. I sms'ed and called but got no answer, so then I didn't want to trek there in case I didn't get in. I decided then to do the Monday party in Erlebniswohnung which I knew would be good anyway. Got talking to a local bloke in Erlebniswohnung who told me that the Anni Porsche party is not as good anymore anyway.

[b][url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin&p=1303362&viewfull=1#post1303362][color=Orange]See my Erlebniswohnung report Here[/url][/b][/color]

Flew home that night after a truelly great time in Berlin. I loved every minute of it really, and I looked forward to visiting again soon.

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1303004]1) 2) Prague is not very far from Berlin[/QUOTE]Question is out of area, but since Prague and Czech Republic has come up here and my inquiry in the Czech forum has not yielded any results, I dare to ask here too:

Does anyone know anything about Czechmegaswingers? Especially if and how it is possible to participate in those massive groupfuck orgies?

Here's an example:

[url]http://www.extremetube.com/video/multi-amateurs-orgy-at-czech-swingers-party-123477[/url]

[QUOTE=Wanking;1303359]I have been visiting Whormany around 8 times per year since 2005, and have only just made my first trip to Berlin. For years there didn't seem to be much of a flat rate scene, and I suppose that's what kept me from visiting. I really had a great time in Berlin and I may repeat it on my next trip,Flew home that night after a truelly great time in Berlin. I loved every minute of it really, and I looked forward to visiting again soon.[/QUOTE]Not much to say. All truly unique fucking epic fucking sagas, esp. The Insomnia report. A huge service to the troops. You will surely end up in a science museum.

hello friends.

i am planning to be in europe next month and thinking about going for a few days to berlin to have fun. i have never been anywhere to monger so this would be my 1st and i have some questions in this regard to make it hassle free and fun obviously.

after reading some of the thread, i imagine the bordellos worth visiting are prestige, royal, vk, tiffany, liberty, odette, monrouge, (kd) and artemis and i believe they are rep001tered around berlin. my question is are they in safe neighborhoods because i am travelling alone and also can you easily get a cab outside these bordellos to get back to your hotel?

how is the escort scene? any good agencies or independent escorts you guys would recommend? also is bordello scene better or escort?

i am really fond of strip clubs back in states as dancers are stunning and give really great lap dances. any good strip clubs in berlin worth visiting?

heard hookers on oranienburger strasse and kurfurstenstrasse are usually hot but total rip-offs. any chance you can get good service from them or should you avoid them no matter what. again is it safe to go to any of those two streets alone at night?

i have to take return flight to home from either prague, zurich or brussels so i`m thinking of staying in any one of three for a day before catching my return flight. any insight which of the 3 cities would be best to monger after berlin would be great.

sorry if i have bombarded the blog with too many questions.

alex

[QUOTE=Wanking;1303359]I then buried my face into her arse, and YES, there was a slight SMELL OF SHIT LOL! I bent her over, and pushed my tongue in further, and gave her anus a good licking. Back to the hotel, washed my cock and off to bed. Great start to the trip.[/QUOTE]Not exactly having a post Paulo Coelho feeling after reading, but amazing piece of work. Thanks!

[QUOTE=Wanking;1303359]Flew home that night after a truelly great time in Berlin. I loved every minute of it really, and I looked forward to visiting again soon.[/QUOTE]If one series of post was worthy of the "Links to Reports of Distinction" thread, this would be the one.

Kuddos!

Velo Berlin

thanks Angus!

Velo Berlin

And also a big thanks to Angus for the ROD entry.

Another thing I want to mention about Berlin is that its great how close all the clubs are with public transport. When I visit Dusseldorf most of the clubs are way out in the countryside and take time to get to, even with a car, and worse by public transport.

[QUOTE=Wanking;1303538]And also a big thanks to Angus for the ROD entry. I then buried my face into her arse, and YES, there was a slight SMELL OF SHIT LOL! I bent her over, and pushed my tongue in further, and gave her anus a good licking. Back to the hotel, washed my cock and off to bed. Great start to the trip.[/QUOTE]Wankers- I would have nominated this of course also but (t) Angus loves to beat me to these things (he is indeed a cheap date).
In your case, we need a completely new category, that being the rather obvious Reports of De Stink Tion.

I too commend the graphics and layout - coloured links a great idea. I think from now on, for example, all infection stories could have green fonts.

In that Insomnia report, which you know has kept me from sleeping, you state:

When I asked one of the guys, why if the hired in women love sex so much why don't they all do BBBJ for instance (only 2 did BBBJ) and his reply was “I bet you love sex, but I also bet that you would not like to lick the pussy of 50 women in one night who you don't find any attraction!”. Then you go on to say, "Yes he had a point I suppose".

What? You?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1303550]When I asked one of the guys, why if the hired in women love sex so much why don't they all do BBBJ for instance (only 2 did BBBJ) and his reply was 'I bet you love sex, but I also bet that you would not like to lick the pussy of 50 women in one night who you don't find any attraction! '. Then you go on to say,"Yes he had a point I suppose".

What? You?[/QUOTE]Wanking knows better than any of us, you got to lick it, before you stick it...

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLWVqUZvT0[/url]

You just knew I would work that in here didn't you RB.

;)

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1303561]Wanking knows better than any of us, you got to lick it, before you stick it.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LLWVqUZvT0[/url]

You just knew I would work that in here didn't you RB.

AM[/QUOTE]Well I guess somehow I should be honored that if I get a PM with some wacko reference, and I reply "right, you know that is raahtha wacko, old boy", dollars to donuts it will appear soon in the Forum.

But I am quite happy to encourage your creative side as part of the therapy programme. Much better than weaving those bloody baskets, or doing those Aqualung impersonations in Berlin's parks.

[QUOTE=Wanking; 1303538]And also a big thanks to Angus for the ROD entry.

Another thing I want to mention about Berlin is that its great how close all the clubs are with public transport. When I visit Dusseldorf most of the clubs are way out in the countryside and take time to get to, even with a car, and worse by public transport.[/QUOTE]I fully intend to check out THAT hot blonde. Alisha. Fuck me. A broad that hot for 20 spons. Really awesome job Wanking.

hello friends.

i am planning to be in europe next month and thinking about going for a few days to berlin to have fun. i have never been anywhere to monger so this would be my 1st and i have some questions in this regard to make it hassle free and fun obviously.

after reading some of the thread, i imagine the bordellos worth visiting are prestige, royal, vk, tiffany, liberty, odette, monrouge, (kd) and artemis and i believe they are rep001tered around berlin. my question is are they in safe neighborhoods because i am travelling alone and also can you easily get a cab outside these bordellos to get back to your hotel?

how is the escort scene? any good agencies or independent escorts you guys would recommend? also is bordello scene better or escort?

i am really fond of strip clubs back in states as dancers are stunning and give really great lap dances. any good strip clubs in berlin worth visiting?

i have to take return flight to home from either prague, zurich or brussels so i`m thinking of staying in any one of three for a day before catching my return flight. any insight which of the 3 cities would be best to monger after berlin would be great.

sorry if i have bombarded the blog with too many questions.

alex

[quote=umichalex; 1303464]hello friends.

i am planning to be in europe next month and thinking about going for a few days to berlin to have fun. i have never been anywhere to monger so this would be my 1st and i have some questions in this regard to make it hassle free and fun obviously.

after reading some of the thread, i imagine the bordellos worth visiting are prestige, royal, vk, tiffany, liberty, odette, monrouge, (kd) and artemis and i believe they are rep001tered around berlin. my question is are they in safe neighborhoods because i am travelling alone and also can you easily get a cab outside these bordellos to get back to your hotel?

how is the escort scene? any good agencies or independent escorts you guys would recommend? also is bordello scene better or escort?

i am really fond of strip clubs back in states as dancers are stunning and give really great lap dances. any good strip clubs in berlin worth visiting?

heard hookers on oranienburger strasse and kurfurstenstrasse are usually hot but total rip-offs. any chance you can get good service from them or should you avoid them no matter what. again is it safe to go to any of those two streets alone at night?

i have to take return flight to home from either prague, zurich or brussels so i`m thinking of staying in any one of three for a day before catching my return flight. any insight which of the 3 cities would be best to monger after berlin would be great.

sorry if i have bombarded the blog with too many questions.

alex[/quote]re: berlin safety-berlin is a pretty safe city. most of the bordellos you mention are closed by 22:00 anyway and in neighbourhoods where there is a fair bit of activity in the evening. the one exception being artemis which is open late but still in a safe spot despite what norjan may feel about the gypsy "threat". in any case there is a always a long line of taxis waiting outside artemis.

am

Hello all,

Where can I find thaigirls in Berlin in a massageplace or bordello?

I am really looking forward to meet a nice thai girl.

Maybe anyone here can make some advice or recommendations?

Runners

[QUOTE=Runners; 1303850]Hello all,

Where can I find thaigirls in Berlin in a massageplace or bordello?

I am really looking forward to meet a nice thai girl.

Maybe anyone here can make some advice or recommendations?

Runners[/QUOTE]Slim pickings here me thinks. I would run to the airport, and hop on a plane to Thailand.

There are 2-3 with somewhat irregular hours working at Artemis, one quite nice possibly Wed and Fri. But very hit and miss.

I don't know the massage scene like Angus does.

But obviously, cold Berlin just not a Thai hangout. Lots of German and European girls though. Who'd a thunk it?

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1303972]Slim pickings here me thinks. I would run to the airport, and hop on a plane to Thailand.

There are 2-3 with somewhat irregular hours working at Artemis, one quite nice possibly Wed and Fri. But very hit and miss.

I don't know the massage scene like Angus does.

But obviously, cold Berlin just not a Thai hangout. Lots of German and European girls though. Who'd a thunk it?[/QUOTE]I would not say there are no Thai girls in Berlin, In fact there are a number. Have a look here.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Club/Massage.php[/url]

There are a number of Thai massage places. In some you can get FS in others just massage and a hand job or maybe a BJ.

I am sorry I can not tell you which are which but the FS salons generally will indicate in the services.

AM

[QUOTE=UmichaLex; 1303754]Hello friends.

I am planning to be in Europe next month and thinking about going for a few days to berlin to have fun. I have never been anywhere to monger so this would be my 1st and I have some questions in this regard to make it hassle free.

My question is are they in safe neighborhoods because I am travelling alone and also can you easily get a cab outside these bordellos to get back to your hotel?

Alex[/QUOTE]Have only been to Artemis, so this answer is about that area.

They say it's in a safe area but it's not. It's in a rough area. Criminals are lurking around the corners and even in the S-bahn, in the wagons and on the platforms just waiting for someone like you. A tourist loaded with cash, not really knowing where he is.

Expert word of advice: Take a a cab both going to Artemis and when going back to your hotel. It's easy getting a cab in central Berlin and also outside Artemis where they'll be waiting in line. The only problem is that when going to Artemis, the driver knows that your pockets are full of cash, think of that when choosing your cab.

Norjan

On a slow connection with proxy so this will be short. Went to Klix 37, saw Mona, for 1. 5 hrs, had a great time. She is one of the few Germans working there. Had approximately a 15 girl lineup, no stunners except for a black girl. Mamasan was very cool. 50 for. 5 hr. 90 for 1 hr and 10 euro for BBBJ. Easy to get jnto, the building has a buzzer labeled Massage, no need to call like in Prague.

Mona has great english, very friendly and enthusiastic even tho she is 32. She works out and has a nice hard ass and thighs, defined back and arms. Unfortunately she has saggy boobs but she is fun so that's what counts.

Thanks everyone for your help

On a slow connection with proxy so this will be short. Went to Klix 37, saw Mona, for 1. 5 hrs, had a great time. She is one of the few Germans working there. Had approximately a 15 girl lineup, no stunners except for a black girl. Mamasan was very cool. 50 for. 5 hr. 90 for 1 hr and 10 euro for BBBJ. Easy to get jnto, the building has a buzzer labeled Massage, no need to call like in Prague.

Mona has great english, very friendly and enthusiastic even tho she is 32. She works out and has a nice hard ass and thighs, defined back and arms. Unfortunately she has saggy boobs but she is fun so that's what counts.

Thanks everyone for your help

[quote=umichalex; 1303464]hello friends.

i am planning to be in europe next month and thinking about going for a few days to berlin to have fun. i have never been anywhere to monger so this would be my 1st and i have some questions in this regard to make it hassle free and fun obviously.

after reading some of the thread, i imagine the bordellos worth visiting are prestige, royal, vk, tiffany, liberty, odette, monrouge, (kd) and artemis and i believe they are rep001tered around berlin. my question is are they in safe neighborhoods because i am travelling alone and also can you easily get a cab outside these bordellos to get back to your hotel?

how is the escort scene? any good agencies or independent escorts you guys would recommend? also is bordello scene better or escort?

i am really fond of strip clubs back in states as dancers are stunning and give really great lap dances. any good strip clubs in berlin worth visiting?

heard hookers on oranienburger strasse and kurfurstenstrasse are usually hot but total rip-offs. any chance you can get good service from them or should you avoid them no matter what. again is it safe to go to any of those two streets alone at night?

i have to take return flight to home from either prague, zurich or brussels so i`m thinking of staying in any one of three for a day before catching my return flight. any insight which of the 3 cities would be best to monger after berlin would be great.

sorry if i have bombarded the blog with too many questions.

alex[/quote]alex, you asked the same question on the other thread, only here you switched out the city of vienna and replaced with prague. you are all over the place, i guess because of flight options. i'm assuming you are looking for the best way to cap off a trip to berlin, just in case artemis and the bordellos in berlin don't produce sufficient hotties when you visit, so where is a good alternative city?

i also often do a secondary stopover on the way home from a mongering trip to kiev, so i have had to analyze this and make this kind of choice many times before.

is there any reason why you can't fly home from frankfurt? if you can manage that, then you can visit fkk oase or fkk palace or fkk world, or any two of them. they are the biggest and best of the fkk's, and far better than artemis imho, and cheaper too at 100 euro / hr session fees. i would choose frankfurt over the cities you mentioned (brussels / zurich) even if it added several hundred dollars to the cost of the air tickets, simply because you will probably save that amount in girl session costs by going to frankfurt because the costs in brussels or zurich are double the costs in frankfurt fkk's. (as an alternative to frankfurt, i'm sure there are advocates here for the dusseldorf / cologne area which does have many fkk club options, however they close early, are crowded more, and are more difficult to get to, unless you rent a car, so my pick for a one or two night stopover would be frankfurt area fkk's).

i recommended for you to choose vienna when you asked the question in the other thread and you mentioned that city. if you can't go to frankfurt, then reconsider the vienna option for the reasons i stated earlier. if you aren't as flight flexible as you seem, then between the cities you now mention, prague seems the best. brussels has a rld right adjacent to the train station and the set up and prices are like amsterdam, really pretty, hot girls in windows, available for 15 minutes for 50 euro for a quickie. that means that for an hour you will pay 200 euro. it's exactly double the price of the german fkk's. but the girls in brussels, like in amsterdam, we're hot. when i was in brussels on a stopover last year the girls were hot, plenty of romanian, bulgarians, but also some hot russian or ukrainian girls in some of the windows. honestly, prague would be a better choice because prices are lower there for girls in the "privats" (the girl apartments) all over prague, and the czech women are beautiful. i suppose if you want to use high end escort outcall agencies, you can get girls who are off the charts gorgeous in both cities. in prague, when i mongered there some years ago i got great gfe beauties from the high end escort agencies, but then we're talking about a several hour commitment for 300 to 400 euro. the guys who want to stay in the 100 euro per hour range speak highly of the privats in prague. so in order of preference for departure cities for a one or two night stopover after a mongering trip to berlin, i would pick frankfurt, vienna, prague, brussels / zurich. and then you have to learn the ins and outs of mongering in the city you choose.

lj

Beware of Gypsy taxi drivers and irish limbo dancers. In Berlin.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1304043]Have only been to Artemis, so this answer is about that area.

They say it's in a safe area but it's not. It's in a rough area. Criminals are lurking around the corners and even in the S-bahn, in the wagons and on the platforms just waiting for someone like you. A tourist loaded with cash, not really knowing where he is.

Expert word of advice: Take a a cab both going to Artemis and when going back to your hotel. It's easy getting a cab in central Berlin and also outside Artemis where they'll be waiting in line. The only problem is that when going to Artemis, the driver knows that your pockets are full of cash, think of that when choosing your cab.

Norjan[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bearsk; 1304169]Beware of Gypsy taxi drivers and irish limbo dancers. In Berlin. Based on Have only been to Artemis, so this answer is about that area.

They say it's in a safe area but it's not. It's in a rough area. Criminals are lurking around the corners and even in the S-bahn, in the wagons and on the platforms just waiting for someone like you. A tourist loaded with cash, not really knowing where he is.

Expert word of advice: Take a a cab both going to Artemis and when going back to your hotel. It's easy getting a cab in central Berlin and also outside Artemis where they'll be waiting in line. The only problem is that when going to Artemis, the driver knows that your pockets are full of cash, think of that when choosing your cab.

Norjan[/QUOTE]Indeed. Norjan. Where do you get this stuff? What solid evidence do you have to make such claims?

IMHO, Westkreuz is perfectly safe, have been there loads of time 03:00, never the slightest bad vibe, S-Bahns under surveillance etc. One sees women walking alone there all the time in the early am so obviously they feel quite safe. Unless. They are part of the vast Gypsy criminal conspiracy. I never thought of that.

There are of course rough areas in Berlin but this most def not. The only good argument for a cab is sometimes the trains can be 15-25 minutes apart so you can stand around a bit and if one is cold, tired, drained of precious bodily fluids, a cab is nice. But absolutely not necessary for safety.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304178]Indeed. Norjan. Where do you get this stuff? What solid evidence do you have to make such claims?

IMHO, Westkreuz is perfectly safe, have been there loads of time 03:00, never the slightest bad vibe, S-Bahns under surveillance etc. One sees women walking alone there all the time in the early am so obviously they feel quite safe. Unless. They are part of the vast Gypsy criminal conspiracy. I never thought of that.

There are of course rough areas in Berlin but this most def not. The only good argument for a cab is sometimes the trains can be 15-25 minutes apart so you can stand around a bit and if one is cold, tired, drained of precious bodily fluids, a cab is nice. But absolutely not necessary for safety.[/QUOTE]Thank you all for great advice on safety in Berlin.

atLJ. Once again really appreciate your detailed insight. Well never considered Frankfurt because not sure if it has to offer any thing else like good bordellos or good escort service other than the 2-3 FKKs everyone talks about. Would certainly like the possibility of having other options at my disposal because in case I find out after going to Artemis that FKKs are not my thing (hopefully that won't happen because FKKs are such a unique concept and are every mongers favorite) , then I`m kind of stuck in Frankfurt. I am pretty flexible with my departure city and can probably depart from Frankfurt as well so maybe I`ll read into the Frankfurt thread to get a better idea of other possible solutions exist just to give me that flexibility.

Alex

I am visiting Berlin shortly and searching for a blonde girl with enhanced attributes who does CIM. Up to 200 euros a hour. Very happy for any tip!

[QUOTE=UmichaLex;1304216]in case I find out after going to Artemis that FKKs are not my thing (hopefully that won't happen because FKKs are such a unique concept and are every mongers favorite) , then I`m kind of stuck in Frankfurt. I am pretty flexible with my departure city and can probably depart from Frankfurt as well so maybe I`ll read into the Frankfurt thread to get a better idea of other possible solutions exist just to give me that flexibility.Alex[/QUOTE]A-as discussed with LJ in the Artemis ISG Forum, there is no "answer". No idea of you, your taste in women, how experienced you are, your budget etc. I think both Artemis and Palace Frankfurt by my tastes will be weaker than normal. I suspect this is true everywhere as many (not all) of the better girls will take a summer break. However as you have never been, you may just be thrilled to death by the whole FKK thing and find all fine. Oase (north of Frankfurt) IF (important) weather good surely a worthwhile look, though unlike many, I have never been so impressed by the women / service thing there.

I looked at the Vienna FKK options and I am either underwhelmed or it is absurdly expensive. Prague one of the world's most beautiful cities but it will demand some language tolerance and a fair bit of running around-probably need a couple of days just to get your bearings. Zurich is expensive but a very pretty city and visit to the Globe and then some cruising on a bike around the lake and the old town sounds to me like a pretty good 2 days. Maybe even with a detour to Luzern-an hour away. Air Berlin has reasonable flights Berlin-Zurich. You can decide also after having sampled some of the Berlin Bordells and private flats discussed a lot on the ISG Berlin forum. It will all be hit and miss, YMMV, also a function of logistics and budget. But if you are not in Europe so often, and time is an issue, I would pump for a quick overnight trip to Zurich. But you maybe so enchanted by the Berlin options you never make it anywhere. Good luck and let us know.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1303365]Question is out of area, but since Prague and Czech Republic has come up here and my inquiry in the Czech forum has not yielded any results, I dare to ask here too:

Does anyone know anything about Czechmegaswingers? Especially if and how it is possible to participate in those massive groupfuck orgies?

Here's an example:

[url]http://www.extremetube.com/video/multi-amateurs-orgy-at-czech-swingers-party-123477[/url][/QUOTE]Not sure where you are at with this but I have managed to come up with some info on the website with contact info. I am reluctant to share it in the open forum but if interested send me a pm and I will pm you what I have. What I have is not much but it may be a start.

AM

[QUOTE=UmichaLex; 1304216]Thank you all for great advice on safety in Berlin.

AtLJ. Once again really appreciate your detailed insight. Well never considered Frankfurt because not sure if it has to offer any thing else like good bordellos or good escort service other than the 2-3 FKKs everyone talks about. Would certainly like the possibility of having other options at my disposal because in case I find out after going to Artemis that FKKs are not my thing (hopefully that won't happen because FKKs are such a unique concept and are every mongers favorite) , then I`m kind of stuck in Frankfurt. I am pretty flexible with my departure city and can probably depart from Frankfurt as well so maybe I`ll read into the Frankfurt thread to get a better idea of other possible solutions exist just to give me that flexibility.

Alex[/QUOTE]Dear Alex,

I will be very surprised if you wouldn't enjoy the concept of an FKK in terms of it being a highly charged sexual environment. I analogize it to walking into Hugh Heffner's "Playboy Mansion" with young hot centerfold lovelies lounging all around the property, with the added perk that at the FKK, the sexy, skinny young females are all walking around completely naked, except for their high-heeled shoes, and all they want to do is drag you off to some nicely appointed bedroom and suck and fuck you for 50 euro per half hour (60 euro if you're in Berlin at Artemis). Refreshments and food are included and you can spend as long as you want at the club to rest and recharge in between sex sessions. It's a hedonistic sexually charged environment that you will never forget. I remember my first time, and thinking,"you mean this has been here all this time, and I never knew? Damn, this is awesome!" you will probably have a similar reaction.

A caveat is that Artemis in Berlin tends to get a lot of guys and with crowds comes competition to score the hottest girls, which as in any club are only a certain proportion of the females there, and thus are a limited commodity. Added to that is the "summer vacation" aspect pointed out by Rocketboy0, which may have led to lower numbers of the best and hottest girls being present in the FKK clubs during the present summer period. He opines that this "summer vacation" drain on the talent is likely to affect all of the sex venues everywhere. He may well be right. All I can say is that my visit to FKK Oase near Frankfurt last summer was awesome, and when I think of the hotness of the beauties I nailed during that trip my head still spins. So it is not a given that summertime is a bad time to visit FKK's. From my experience, the Frankfurt area FKK's. Palace, Oase and World. (there are others but I've never been to them) are very enjoyable during the summer, especially those like Oase which have nice outdoor areas and swimming pool. Take a look at the YouTube video of the reconstructed premises now up on their website ([url]www.fkk-oase.de[/url]) and imagine the sexy, naked young girls sprawled on the lounges around the outdoor pool. It's a nice way to spend a summer day (and continue the party at night, if you have any sperm left). So if it turns out that Artemis is lacking in hotties like it was when I visited it on April 18 this year, it is my opinion that it is because it is not as good a mongering club as the Frankfurt area FKK's where there have always been sufficient very pretty, hot young girls to satisfy my desires. Again there are those who favor the FKK clubs up near Dusseldorf and Cologne area in terms of the line ups, but I have written earlier my reasons and factors for picking the Frankfurt area FKK's for a one or two night stopover.

Anyway, I don't think that one can really be "stuck" in Frankfurt, due to the very good train system of the Deutche Bahn, and from Frankfurt you can be up in Dusseldorf / Cologne area or even to Brussels in a relatively short train ride.

Frankfurt's escort outcall scene is a high end option, and although awesome looking escorts can be summoned to your hotel room, I never considered using an outcall escort in Frankfurt since the much lower prices at the FKK's were readily available. FKK Palace is inSide Frankfurt (you can book the hotel right next to it and be able to walk back and forth to your hotel room from the club) and FKK Oase is a short 20 minute train ride and / or taxi ride from downtown Frankfurt (just hop on the S5 from the Frankfurt Hbf (main train station) to Bad Homburg and taxi from there to club).

If you are enamored more of the girl apartment or bordello scene, then one of the larger RLD's exists right next to the Frankfurt Hbf area, with buildings full of girl apartments. I never went to these either ecause I felt the FKK's were far superior an experience with good basic service more or less guaranteed, versus the uncontrolled environment at the RLD where you must be far more concerned with the rip off type of girl.

The Vienna FKK, Goldentime, has similar costs to Artemis in Berlin. Check out the website [url]www.goldentime.at[/url] And see. Entrance is 80 euro and girl session fees are 60 euro per half hour. Many beauties from nearby Hungary and Slovak republic, enhance the Romanian / Bulgarian usual FKK menu. And the "laufhaus" brothels are similarly priced. So I'm really not sure what Rocketboy0 is referring to in reference to Vienna.

Take a look at the ISG reports on the Prague thread and you will see a clearer picture of what's possible in the girl apartments there known as "privats". There is a very useful map detailing the location of every sex business and privat in Prague, so getting your bearings is not difficult IMHO. English is spoken widely in Prague. There are awesome high end escort agencies in Prague, if your budget allows, but there are a lot of lower cost options too. Also large sex clubs like K5 and many others. Prague was my favorite mongering city before I moved on to the FKK's, and then to Kiev. I would give Prague serious consideration as well because if you have never visited there yet, you will find it to be a very beautiful city architecturally and well worth your while as a tourist in general matters, as well as being a sex capital in Europe.

But as much as I enjoy Vienna and try to pass through there as often as I can on a stopover, and as much as I have nostalgia for the fun times I had in Prague, for practical reasons, I still think stopping over in Frankfurt, spending a day or two at FKK Oase and maybe Palace or World, and departing for home from Frankfurt, or then hopping on a train to Brussels to check out it's comparatively meager and more expensive offerings, and departing for home from Brussels, might be an exciting plan, that will give you a better overview of FKK land, than just an Artemis experience.

But I also liked Rocketbiy0's description of a stop in beautiful Zurich, although for sex it's likely that Frankfurt area presents a lower cost experience with an equivalent level of girl quality.

LJ

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1304178]Indeed. Norjan. Where do you get this stuff? What solid evidence do you have to make such claims?[/QUOTE]Consciousness that's all you need. Consciousness.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1304421]Consciousness that's all you need. Consciousness.Norjan[/QUOTE]As I thought. You sure aren't doing a little misspelling, and forgetting the prefix "sub" or "un"?

I never really know if you are just "out there", or if all this is clever trolling, with a completely fabricated personality. Either way, it is a piece of work.

[QUOTE=Generalfarris;1304222]I am visiting Berlin shortly and searching for a blonde girl with enhanced attributes who does CIM. Up to 200 euros a hour. Very happy for any tip![/QUOTE]Jenna at Artemis. Picture on their website, you might ring to see if she's there when you are.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304447]As I thought. You sure aren't doing a little misspelling, and forgetting the prefix "sub" or "un"?

I never really know if you are just "out there", or if all this is clever trolling, with a completely fabricated personality. Either way, it is a piece of work.[/QUOTE]To tell you the truth I'm not even a human. I'm a super confidential software program, which sometimes transform in to a robot that goes to Artemis a couple of times a year, financed by a collaboration between the EU parliament and the Norwegian government.

But, since all this is classified, if I ever meet you, I'll have to kill you. Do'nt be surprised if this happens somewhere between the tyre shop and the containers on your way walking from Westkreuz and Artemis.

Norjan

[QUOTE=LilJoey; 1304409]But as much as I enjoy Vienna and try to pass through there as often as I can on a stopover, and as much as I have nostalgia for the fun times I had in Prague, for practical reasons, I still think stopping over in Frankfurt, spending a day or two at FKK Oase and maybe Palace or World, and departing for home from Frankfurt, or then hopping on a train to Brussels to check out it's comparatively meager and more expensive offerings, and departing for home from Brussels, might be an exciting plan, that will give you a better overview of FKK land, than just an Artemis experience.

But I also liked Rocketbiy0's description of a stop in beautiful Zurich, although for sex it's likely that Frankfurt area presents a lower cost experience with an equivalent level of girl quality.

LJ[/QUOTE]Briefly. I was underwhelmed by the website photos at Golden Time Wien (a taste thing to be sure) , Babylon absurdly expensive. And I have normally really good things to say about Austrian women. Prague. Sure but it will require a fair bit of running around, and it will be jammed with tourists. Frankfurt-it will be hit and miss and Oase without great weather a different deal, and a relative a hassle to reach (easily an hour each way if you stay in Frankfurt) , and come and go. It tends to E European thin waify types-again a taste thing, and not mine. World-some like, but I find it creepy too E European, it is a hike without a car, and owned by German motorcycle gang. Palace in summer will be hit and miss, and in any case, while Frankfurt has spent a lot on museums and river front development etc. It is still Frankfurt. Frankfurt to me often feels claustrophobic, not helped by a relative absence of cheap flights to EU destinations unlike other German cities, and trains can also be expensive on short notice. For me, after Berlin, another "landlocked" big city experience (also applies to Prague, and Vienna despite their being near rivers) for several days in summer not attractive. And Brussels. Not worth it IMHO, in your situation.

Whereas. Look at the club-globe. Ch website and see Mohab`s recent description; it just seems the odds significantly better there, all things considered. Disagree with LJ that quality the same elsewhere for less cost but at least Berlin will help you establish a baseline. I do think the Globe quality has the potential (note that word) to be much better. YMMV and of course it will depend upon the day and your tastes. All things being equal WED-SAT best days (and better so late afternoons / evenings) everywhere. Yes more expensive but likely only for a day, with a few sessions, net net 400 ish more. But Zurich a surprisingly edgy city, good arts and music scene, the region extremely beautiful with its large swimmable lake, and Luzern nearby even more so. The lake boat trips, or just hiring a bicycle, with towering mountains nearby pretty unbeatable. With the Globe, you have a fairly large one stop shop, very good transit system, vs needing to go poon safaris all over unfamiliar cities or their countrysides. There are some useful rail passes you should buy in advance and some hotel planning on-line helpful, check Time-Out and Lonely Planet tips. It really depends on logistics, time and flight schedules, and budget and how likely you are to pass through Europe again, but balancing a lot of factors, if it were me-I'the be off to Zurich / Globe.

You can wait til we hear LJs report from the Globe. And again doing Berlin both Artemis and some of the better bordellos first and seeing how you feel about the whole scene first makes most sense IMHO.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1302844]Norjan-have you considered London for this fantasy? It is expensive but as far as I can see has some of the best talent anywhere for take out. If you have the means it could be just the thing you are looking for plus less language difficulties as I assume that you are pretty fluent with English.

Just a thought.

AM[/QUOTE]This is a very good shot.

The prettiest escorts in Europe work here (london). Prices are very high here compared to Germany, but that's part of what attracts the top girls to come here to work. The Olympics starts in 2 weeks, so the city will be full of hotties.

C

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1303146]Thanks Bobo, really appreciate your info.

I said money is no issue, but I do'nt think I'm ready to pay their traveling costs at this moment, when not having met the girl before.

Will try to find a Berlin based escort but have'nt found it yet.

At Kamilla Dee there is one girl that looks OK, Clarissa, anybody who have been with her and able to comment?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yes, I've been with Clarissa.

Hot body, good performer, nice girl. BBBJ for me without questions asked (I speak German and I think this helps) , but house policy is for covered BJ so beware.

I did a report on her here in 2011. Search for more info if you want.

Best.

C

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1304594]Briefly. I was underwhelmed by the website photos at Golden Time Wien (a taste thing to be sure) , Babylon absurdly expensive. And I have normally really good things to say about Austrian women. Prague. Sure but it will require a fair bit of running around, and it will be jammed with tourists. Frankfurt-it will be hit and miss and Oase without great weather a different deal, and a relative a hassle to reach (easily an hour each way if you stay in Frankfurt) , and come and go. It tends to E European thin waify types-again a taste thing, and not mine. .[/QUOTE]Thanks a ton Rocketboy and LJ for those detailed insight. As always, experts tend to have different opinions on a given topic and its is ultimately left to the reader to analyze those opinions and make an informed decision. I guess I`ll just wait for LJ to report on his experience in Zurich and Berlin after that if I am still in a dilemma over which city to monger along with Berlin, I guess I`ll toss a coin to decide. BTW, you guys mention some girls will be away for summer vacation and that might put a drain on the talent available anywhere in Europe, so I was wondering when dose this summer vacation end. Reason I ask this is because I am to an extend flexible with my flight schedule and maybe I can decide when I want to visit EU. Well given this will be my 1st Mongering trip, I do not mind splurging for GFE with some fine hotties.

Alex

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304594]Briefly. I was underwhelmed by the website photos at Golden Time Wien (a taste thing to be sure) , Babylon absurdly expensive. And I have normally really good things to say about Austrian women. Prague. Sure but it will require a fair bit of running around, and it will be jammed with tourists. Frankfurt-it will be hit and miss and Oase without great weather a different deal, and a relative a hassle to reach (easily an hour each way if you stay in Frankfurt) , and come and go. It tends to E European thin waify types-again a taste thing, and not mine. World-some like, but I find it creepy too E European, it is a hike without a car, and owned by German motorcycle gang. Palace in summer will be hit and miss, and in any case, while Frankfurt has spent a lot on museums and river front development etc. It is still Frankfurt. Frankfurt to me often feels claustrophobic, not helped by a relative absence of cheap flights to EU destinations unlike other German cities, and trains can also be expensive on short notice. For me, after Berlin, another "landlocked" big city experience (also applies to Prague, and Vienna despite their being near rivers) for several days in summer not attractive. And Brussels. Not worth it IMHO, in your situation.

Whereas. Look at the club-globe. Ch website and see Mohab`s recent description; it just seems the odds significantly better there, all things considered. Disagree with LJ that quality the same elsewhere for less cost but at least Berlin will help you establish a baseline. I do think the Globe quality has the potential (note that word) to be much better. YMMV and of course it will depend upon the day and your tastes. All things being equal WED-SAT best days (and better so late afternoons / evenings) everywhere. Yes more expensive but likely only for a day, with a few sessions, net net 400 ish more. But Zurich a surprisingly edgy city, good arts and music scene, the region extremely beautiful with its large swimmable lake, and Luzern nearby even more so. The lake boat trips, or just hiring a bicycle, with towering mountains nearby pretty unbeatable. With the Globe, you have a fairly large one stop shop, very good transit system, vs needing to go poon safaris all over unfamiliar cities or their countrysides. There are some useful rail passes you should buy in advance and some hotel planning on-line helpful, check Time-Out and Lonely Planet tips. It really depends on logistics, time and flight schedules, and budget and how likely you are to pass through Europe again, but balancing a lot of factors, if it were me-I'the be off to Zurich / Globe.

You can wait til we hear LJs report from the Globe. And again doing Berlin both Artemis and some of the better bordellos first and seeing how you feel about the whole scene first makes most sense IMHO.[/QUOTE]Just for the sake of accuracy, one can go on the website [url]www.bahn.de[/url] And plug into the journey planner the trip from Frankfurt Hbf to Bad Homburg, and one will see that traveling from Frankfurt Hbf to FKK Oase involves a 21 minute ride on the S-Bahn (S5). The taxi ride from Bad Homburg station to FKK Oase is not more than 10 minutes. I usually stay at one of the hotels adjacent to the Frankfurt Hbf to make my transfers to / from the airport easier. So I can't see where there is more than a half hour of travel time from Frankfurt Hbf to FKK Oase. Rocketboy0 must be including a scenic tour of downtown Frankfurt in his estimate of an hour travel time. The twenty minute ride on the large comfortable cars of the flawlessly functioning S-Bahn, I wouldn't regard as a "hassle".

Also, you can't go by the FKK website photos. There isn't any serious doubt that the line up usually Present at FKK Oase shreds the offerings at FKK Artemis that I saw on my visit to Artemis the night of April 18. But I've only been to Artemis once. Likewise, although Goldentime Vienna is a smaller club than Artemis, the line up at Goldentime was consistently far better than what I saw at Artemis that April 18 visit, and I am speaking of personal observation made from many visits to both FKK Oase near Frankfurt and FKK Goldentime in Vienna. They are consistently good in their line up. My ATF is Joanna (Romanian) at Goldentime Vienna, a dark haired flawless body beauty, but there are also many blondes from Hungary or Slovak Republic at Goldentime due to the club's proximity to those countries. I do agree that when the weather outside is nice, which allows one to enjoy the outdoors area and swimming pool at Oase (see the website for YouTube video to get a good idea) , that the experience at Oase is a much better experience, because Oase does suffer from having a less opulent and comfortable premises than clubs like Palace or Artemis, which is bearable for most guys since Oase has the better line up with better service (I. E. Less complaints of sharky behavior at Oase as compared to Palace).

The foregoing having been said, I am going to Artemis again to give it a second chance and hope I will have fun there.

I also do agree that Zurich's Globe sounds like a really good environment with really hot girls, but at double the price. The price tags on Beautiful escorts in Zurich of $300 / hour at Globe and $400 / hr or $500 / hr at other Swiss venues or escort services, are already like the prices back home in places like New York, a high priced mongering location. See for example [url]www.eros--ny.com[/url] And plug into the search box "400" which will pull up all those escort ads asking $400 / hr and you will see that for that price some very beautiful Russian type girls are available as GFE (searches for prices lower than $400 will bring up mostly TS escorts on the Eros website) , so $400 is now a baseline on that website in NY. Lower cost escorts can be found on backpage. Com). So if I can pay $400 for a beauty in NY, why should I go to Zurich for escorts charging the same? The lower costs at the German FKK's are part of their appeal.

And lastly, in listing cities you might want to monger in for a one or two night stopover, having just read Charlie123's note to Norjan, I am reminded that I quite agree about London. I have stopped over in London many times and the escort scene there is awesome. Just take a look at [url]www.londonescortguide.com[/url], for example, and see what kind of beauties are available for 150 GBP (230 CHF) or 180 GBP (275 CHF) or even 200 GBP (306 CHF) (higher than that is already getting ridiculous) and your eyes will likely pop out! And London is a great tourist city as well.

I will be in Zurich this Friday and report about what I see there.

LJ

[QUOTE=LilJoey;1304696]Just for the sake of accuracy, LJ[/QUOTE]Well, you gots your reality; I gots mine. Apologies to all as this really belongs in the Lounge, but as we're stuck here, my last entry on this.

LJ-your Frankfurt-Oase travel time estimates assume absolute best-case timing and taxi connections, and some hotel proximity that may or not apply to our intrepid traveler, on the particular day. My guess allows for the usual imperfections and slacking. I think, point to point, Hotel door to Oase reception. 1 hr is much more realistic. Having lived in Frankfurt for over a year, and Berlin for 5, flawless and S-Bahn are not words I would use in the same sentence. Scheisse happens.

I thought all the new construction at Oase was far from complete as of this moment; that while operations are continuing, the work is no where near finished. I have no idea really but their video is a computer generated thing vs what is really on there now. I really don`t know but again. For me, IMHO, just not worth it, on balance. Been there 4-5 times, left without doing anything I think 3. Whereas, I have always had a great time at the horrible, evil Palace. Kimino my man of wings and I commented on all this on the Palace thread recently. It just goes to show how subjective it all is, and how each of us must find our way.

London will be very costly on all levels, esp now with high tourist season and pre-Olympics stresses. There have been well-reported horrific delays at airport immigration, and even conservative Financial Times columnists have been moaning what a hassle it will all be quite soon. Well be worth an off-season visit in Sept when the systems are back to normal, but right now, I doubt it. As Charlie123 can fully attest, I have been telling him for years that cost aside, the choices there are something, and I am an Anglophile by nature.

As for all the rest on the girly front in various places- as I said repeatedly, all individual taste things both in terms of beauty, and if it is "worth" it.

So as you say, for the sake of accuracy (and just fucking peace) , l now surrender completely. I concede fully you are a world-class mongering and business and logistics genius (with as you reminded us, a highly developed tongue to boot) , and look forward to your in depth thrashing of Artemis, a minute cost breakdown, and the Globe report of Truth. Finito. RB over and out.

So finally I've experienced the services in German Bordello, I'm quite satisfied and thanks to Angus magee.)

As I'm student I wrote him that I'm looking for something cheaper he suggested me 1) [url]http://www.starlight-modelle.de/index.php[/url]

And 2) [url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/modelle.html[/url] Where I saw the website and for me Freudenhaus-hase. De looks has more girls and was interesting for me.

It was Monday afternoon when I went there, the right side was closed and usually it opens after 4. I was new so didn't know about how things work so I entered and the main Lady explained to me how it works, so I was walking and looking at girls, as it was afternoon it was not busy, girls were waiting so I had chance to see the girl, on the top floor I ended up with Nicole, short Polish girl with no English and I'm new so I don't speak German, but still I decided to go with her, body was average nice tits, No kissing which I really want but really nice BJ she was relaxed and not in hurry, did different positions and I ended up.

I've been to cheap places in London's Soho where I can say, service in this place was far better than one in London, in soho they give BJ for a half or a minute to say you got BJ, and

The girls are always in hurry to get next customer.

Over all I liked this place as I'm new and for the price I think it was good place.

Thank you once again Angus, Let me know if there are any suggestions to find another Budget place for students like me.

Also I've found few contacts online, any suggestion?

[url]http://www.jaasmin.de/[/url]

[url]http://mabelle.rotlichtmodelle.de/home.html[/url]

[url]http://www.iris-massagen.com/de/index.php?do=cat&category=masseurin[/url]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1304815]Well, you gots your reality; I gots mine. Apologies to all as this really belongs in the Lounge, but as we're stuck here, my last entry on this.

LJ-your Frankfurt-Oase travel time estimates assume absolute best-case timing and taxi connections, and some hotel proximity that may or not apply to our intrepid traveler, on the particular day. My guess allows for the usual imperfections and slacking. I think, point to point, Hotel door to Oase reception. 1 hr is much more realistic. Having lived in Frankfurt for over a year, and Berlin for 5, flawless and S-Bahn are not words I would use in the same sentence. Scheisse happens.

I thought all the new construction at Oase was far from complete as of this moment; that while operations are continuing, the work is no where near finished. I have no idea really but their video is a computer generated thing vs what is really on there now. I really don`t know but again. For me, IMHO, just not worth it, on balance. Been there 4-5 times, left without doing anything I think 3. Whereas, I have always had a great time at the horrible, evil Palace. Kimino my man of wings and I commented on all this on the Palace thread recently. It just goes to show how subjective it all is, and how each of us must find our way.

London will be very costly on all levels, esp now with high tourist season and pre-Olympics stresses. There have been well-reported horrific delays at airport immigration, and even conservative Financial Times columnists have been moaning what a hassle it will all be quite soon. Well be worth an off-season visit in Sept when the systems are back to normal, but right now, I doubt it. As Charlie123 can fully attest, I have been telling him for years that cost aside, the choices there are something, and I am an Anglophile by nature.

As for all the rest on the girly front in various places- as I said repeatedly, all individual taste things both in terms of beauty, and if it is "worth" it.

So as you say, for the sake of accuracy (and just fucking peace) , l now surrender completely. I concede fully you are a world-class mongering and business and logistics genius (with as you reminded us, a highly developed tongue to boot) , and look forward to your in depth thrashing of Artemis, a minute cost breakdown, and the Globe report of Truth. Finito. RB over and out.[/QUOTE]RB, why the sarcasm? Doesn't anyone have a sense of humor anymore? Or enjoy a discussion of various opinions on a topic of mutual interest? I do not intend to give Artemis a thrashing, since I approach my time there with a completely open and hopeful mind, wanting to have as much fun there as possible. And no need to concede I'm a genius, since that never was placed in issue. I'm not a genius at anything, just an intelligent guy, like you, who loves pussy, and has been chasing it around for a few years now in different locales.

Although after exchanging some thoughts with you, I think we may Truly have different tastes in beauty, because I find it hard to understand how you could not find anything to your liking at FKK Oase so as to leave it without doing anything on 3 occasions out of 4 or 5 times you visited that club. I always saw what I thought was a fairly good line up at Oase, as well as at Palace. I like both places very much and always found very pretty girls to session with at both clubs. But I do like the thin, slim hot bodies of the Romanian and Bulgarian girls, and I remember something you wrote about not liking a "waify" look. So maybe what I consider a hot bikini model, doesn't appeal to you, and you like a different type of girl, and as you say this is a matter of individual taste.

[QUOTE=UmichaLex;1304621]Thanks a ton Rocketboy and LJ for those detailed insight. BTW, you guys mention some girls will be away for summer vacation and that might put a drain on the talent available anywhere in Europe, so I was wondering when dose this summer vacation end. Reason I ask this is because I am to an extend flexible with my flight schedule and maybe I can decide when I want to visit EU. Alex[/QUOTE]Hi Alex- this varies by country, and in the larger countries from region to region / Land / canton / province/city sometimes.

Everything you would ever want to know (and a lot you wouldn't) can be found here, use the school holidays tab per country (and sometimes you have to drill down to the City level):

[url]http://www.feiertagskalender.ch/index.php?geo=0&hl=en[/url]

Examples. Berlin schools start again 3 Aug this year. Zurich, around 20 Aug. On a practical level this means most people back a few days before this to get ready. You can argue that men folk, having been stuck with their families for weeks, are raring to rutt again and so the local markets respond by increasing supply. Of course, you can also argue we are all decendants of aliens.

Summer months linger as in most of of the Northern Hemisphere til end Aug, so girls may just decide to stay away and bake it before they shake it. FKK Oase, north of Frankfurt is a kind of exception to all this, as it really is a summer place. Of course everywhere, some girls will work through summer and go off-season. And there are local anomolies-Berlin has a huge international trade fair in early Sept called the IFA. It is fairly gruelling albeit lucrative for the girls and some stay away til just before to keep their batteries charged.

But roughly, by mid-Aug schools have started in most places, and back to fuller strength.

Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1305031]Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan[/QUOTE]You are always received on the second floor, shown which ever girls are there, make your choice and then go to the room you will use where ever that may be. I am not sure but generally shorter sessions are done in the apartment that you see the girls in. Loneger sessions and nicer rooms are in the other apartments. I have never been to the forth floor (and indeed did not know it existed) but have been taken to another flat on the same floor. The rooms in the first flat are quite alright but there are a few smaller rooms used for shorter sessions.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1305036]You are always received on the second floor, shown which ever girls are there, make your choice and then go to the room you will use where ever that may be. I am not sure but generally shorter sessions are done in the apartment that you see the girls in. Loneger sessions and nicer rooms are in the other apartments. I have never been to the forth floor (and indeed did not know it existed) but have been taken to another flat on the same floor. The rooms in the first flat are quite alright but there are a few smaller rooms used for shorter sessions.AM[/QUOTE]Angus-you know that 4th floor is highly confidential. Now you must----well you know, make the usual disposal arrangements.

So, after my aching nuts stopped hurting (I did basically 5 days straight of sucking and fucking up to 5 women a day in Oase, World, Artemis and then an escort or 3, as well as driving nigh on 1000 miles) , BUT, I decided to honour the exceptional TOFTM work of Wanking to save me from "wanking". I am in the Adina Apts some miles from Kurfurstenstrasse. But I decided to take a long cool walk in the mild rain and wind.

I walked out of my hotel in the late morning and headed down Invalidenstraße towards the parks area. Turned down Friedrich-List-Ufer and then followed my google map thru the nice rainy park areas for a few clicks until I hit Tiergertenstrasse (spelling?). After a good 40 minutes walk and 4 or 5 kms I hit the RLD for SWs. The aforementioned Kurfurstenstrasse. And headed straight past Einsteins to the South east, so as to make sure I walk along the whole length of the SW parade. I end up near Caracas bar. I cross the road and start the exciting journey to the other end.

I reach Gentheiner strasse where the car park and Wanking's mentioned wasteland is. Boom. There are quite a few SW already out at 11. 50am. I cross the road and ask one of the nicer looking SW for the previously mentioned Alisha (blonde in the pics). The * tells me to eff off. She points to a guy on the other side. Her pimp? I ingore the advice and walk on. I come across a very attractive YOUNG (18 to 20 ish) Bulgarian lady. Black hair, fake green contacts and a slim, spinner type body. She is quite hot and I am quite horny. She knows close to zero English.

ME = "Wie viel füare die orale, ohne, Sperma in den Mund, dann werde ich dich ficken" she gives me a blank look. Oh fuck maybe my phone google translate is bad or something but I sprechen a little Deutsche. Oh oh. I have shown her my nice new Samsung phone and I am stupidly wearing a nice watch. Also visible. Eventually she says "fünfzig" I show her 40 is the only loot in my "fake wallet" and she accepts. She drags me (literally) across the road as it is a bit wet and INTO the church. Fuck me she knows a hiding spot here in the church. Nope straight into the loo (ladies) where she jams the door locked somehow. Rips out of cock and gives me the tastiest, wettest OWO ever. I CUM all over her mouth and face and some drips onto her tiny boobs which are now exposed under her flimsy blouse. I oblige by sucking off my own cum and we do a joint toast and swallow. God my spunk is very acidic or something nowadays. She doesn't have any gummie bears and I really do not want to go AO but she smells okay so I oblige with a little DATY. Then I finger fuck her puss and ass as she pushes back off a sink area with her ass, this goes on for a good 6 minutes or so and I think the little tart wants to orgasm. Nope. This is when HER PHONE rings. She grabs my loot and has her ass and body dressed quicker then you can say "mach schnell". And she is out the door. I am alone. I pull up my half mast strides and.

I leave the bathroom and see two church workers looking at me less then amused. But I am happy as I had a really great O and the little lassie was very attractive and sofffor me it WAS fun. I leave the church and herein lies my stupidity.

A bloke. Big guy. I am 6' 2" and he is me plus a few pounds is heading straight towards me. I slip back into the church. Go into a men's room and put my watch and phone in my "sown in" compartment under my balls in my cotton dacks. I leave the church and bull nose (as he looks) starts jabbering at me in Deutsche. I ignore him. He gets closer so I figure I am either going to be in a brawl which will be bad for him. Or if he has a weapon, bad for both of us. He wants money "du schuldest mir 50 €". I laugh and take off running across the busy road to a baby store. He just wanders around outside and down the side street to where I noticed a few other guys and SW hanging.

He is across the road a good 50 yards away. So I leave the baby store and sprint up Kurfürstenstraß, past the area where the pics Wanking took were from. I see a few of the girls from the pics. A chubby blonde and a nice-ish looking brunette in the red shorts (is it the one from the pics). But no ALisha and I am too hurried to worry. I jump into a cab and am off. So stupid bringing a nice watch into that situation.

Had my rental car for a few extra days til why'day so we decided to try out the brothels near tegel. Headed to Klix which I think Rocketboy has mentioned here before.

I rang beforehand to ask about a DD hottie, Tanya. JA JA she will be there. Blah blah she wasnt. So I ended up doing the works with a tight YOUNG I am guessing Ro or Bu girl. All of 18 years of age. LISA. She is on their website. (she could also be German.)

[url]http://www.klix37.de/[/url]

The rooms look like something from my granny's house circa 1973. Pink and purple. Yuk. Just really old fashioned in a BAD WAY.

Anyway. I spent over 100 minutes with young Lisa and paid for OWO, COB, DATY. I was only interested for only a 1 hour session and it worked out to be quite expensive (for ONLY one hour) at 220 Euros but I guess for the fact we went way over time and ended up having a joyous ride including some things she says she doesn't do it was a good time "pour mois". I suspect she would do anal. But I did not as.

Looks THIN BODY = 82/100 Face = 80/100 Performace (Oral = 65/100) but sex in multiple positions, showers, DATY and her having multi O's = 95/100.

For a youngun. This one loves to be fucked in all ways. Overall I did not like the bordello as they lied on the dogger to me but Miss Lisa is worth a ride (YMMV). I would repeat with her if I could get her for an overnight on my turf only.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1305031]Is it correct that royal is located at floor 2 and 4?

If so, which floor should one enter when arriving?

Will there be different girls available depending on which floor you enter?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Yes. The first time I visited Royal, with Charlie123, we went at the 4th floor and where "welcomed" by a quite severe hausmut.

The next time, I went at floor 2, with a different and much more gentle hausmut. To the point where we were asking ourselves if it was the same place.

All other times, I always went to 2nd floor.

Sometimes in big rooms, other times in smaller ones.

Didn't understand the logic of this, but maybe there isn't one.

Hope I'm not mixing up things.

Anyways, Royal is probably my favorite place of that kind, only once I left because I didn't find the right girl. And I usually visit at stupid hours of the day.

In all other places I left more than once because the lineup was particularly weak. I was particularly unlucky at Tiffany, which I removed from my list, also because of a particularly rude hausmut.

Guess I should add, YMMV.

Kimino

Went to this place called King George, about 50 Meters away from Eisenacher U bahn station, the entrance fee is 99 Euros where you can stay all you want, drink all you want, and of course have all the gurls you want, I like the idea, pretty cool, the girl in the reception was cool, she is Dominicana, once inside, the place is nice, a bit small, but ok, they play ok Music, I went for a few drinks, and then had this gurl from Moldova who was really friendly, and can speak English, so round one with this gurl was great, BBBJ, sex in all positions and the gurl was into it, great GFE experience, they try to let you buy drinks for the gurls which I did to that gurl as sort of tips, after that by a while and after few drinks, I went with this Russian gurl inside, the worst one ever, she got attitude, and she cannot speak English, and not into it, total disaster, I was thinking to just leave back to the bar and stop it, but I still did here till I came 30 minutes later, not a great experience, other than this girl, the place is nice, the rate is great for all the sex and drinks, they might ask you to buy a drink for a gurl, they are not pushy though, all in all great place

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1305148]I leave the bathroom and see two church workers looking at me less then amused. But I am happy as I had a really great O and the little lassie was very attractive and sofffor me it WAS fun. I leave the church and herein lies my stupidity.

A bloke. Big guy. I am 6' 2" and he is me plus a few pounds is heading straight towards me. I slip back into the church. Go into a men's room and put my watch and phone in my "sown in" compartment under my balls in my cotton dacks. I leave the church and bull nose (as he looks) starts jabbering at me in Deutsche. I ignore him. He gets closer so I figure I am either going to be in a brawl which will be bad for him. Or if he has a weapon, bad for both of us. He wants money "du schuldest mir 50 €". I laugh and take off running across the busy road to a baby store. He just wanders around outside and down the side street to where I noticed a few other guys and SW hanging.

He is across the road a good 50 yards away. So I leave the baby store and sprint up Kurfürstenstraß, past the area where the pics Wanking took were from. I see a few of the girls from the pics. A chubby blonde and a nice-ish looking brunette in the red shorts (is it the one from the pics). But no ALisha and I am too hurried to worry. I jump into a cab and am off. So stupid bringing a nice watch into that situation.[/QUOTE]RofD worthy that's for sure. I did not quite get why the big guy was after you? Did he think you short changed "his" girls?

In any case this sounds like as good a reason as any to head back to Artemis and regroup.

;)

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1305703]RofD worthy that's for sure. I did not quite get why the big guy was after you? Did he think you short changed "his" girls?

In any case this sounds like as good a reason as any to head back to Artemis and regroup.

AM[/QUOTE]Indeed-the assumption here is either vaguely insufficient pimping fees, or watch and phone. But it might just be, they have read his earlier reports, and simply want his balls.

Plus, as we now know, even the regrouping at Fort Artemis means being able to first penetrate the high crime zone that envelopes Westkreuz, and those elements might be in cahoots with the street guys further east.

And, this has profound implications for the Valets of the Dolls parking service-which may have grossly underestimated the payoffs that will be needed to keep all going. And then the danger aspect, which may require actual body guards now. The whole plan is at risk. Yet another needless shit storm stirred up.

The parking "boys" were noticeably absent I noticed this week at Artemis, the Euros demise it seems has been met by yet another start up business failure!

Big guy prolly thought he would extort some Euros out of me for only paying his wench a 40 quid fee plus said watch whcih is and ow safely ensconced in hotel safe.

Trying some of the escort sites later this week plus will report on Artemis and escorts etc. Having a right royal shagging time in Germany. So much easier than EE hell holes. Was going to scoot up to Denmark but will just go onto Prague-Wien-Budapest then spend the last weeks back in Berlin for Ramadan. Was going to head to Constanta and other parts of Romania but couldn't be fucked flying or getting a train that far.

"Party on Wayne"

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1305148]ME = "Wie viel füare die orale, ohne, Sperma in den Mund, dann werde ich dich ficken" she gives me a blank look. Oh fuck maybe my phone google translate is bad or something but I sprechen a little Deutsche. Oh oh. I have shown her my nice new Samsung phone and I am stupidly wearing a nice watch. Also visible. Eventually she says "fünfzig" I show her 40 is the only loot in my "fake wallet" and she accepts. She drags me (literally) across the road as it is a bit wet and INTO the church. Fuck me she knows a hiding spot here in the church. Nope straight into the loo (ladies) where she jams the door locked somehow. Rips out of cock and gives me the tastiest, wettest OWO ever. I CUM all over her mouth and face and some drips onto her tiny boobs which are now exposed under her flimsy blouse. I oblige by sucking off my own cum and we do a joint toast and swallow. God my spunk is very acidic or something nowadays. She doesn't have any gummie bears and I really do not want to go AO but she smells okay so I oblige with a little DATY. Then I finger fuck her puss and ass as she pushes back off a sink area with her ass, this goes on for a good 6 minutes or so and I think the little tart wants to orgasm. Nope. This is when HER PHONE rings. She grabs my loot and has her ass and body dressed quicker then you can say "mach schnell". And she is out the door. I am alone. I pull up my half mast strides and.[/QUOTE]Nice report there Belvaros, One thing about these street sluts is that the time is so short. Really not much more than 10 mins, and even Belvaros paid 40 euro and seemed to only get 10 or 15 mins. You really need to be ready to shot your load fast when you take a session with these street ladies. Even though they are cheap, due to the fact that the session is over so quick its not really good value, unless you are into really short sessions which I am not. Only reason I enjoy these ladies is because I find the idea of having dirty smelly sex with a dirty smelly street girl very erotic!

[QUOTE=UmichaLex; 1304621]Thanks a ton Rocketboy and LJ for those detailed insight. As always, experts tend to have different opinions on a given topic and its is ultimately left to the reader to analyze those opinions and make an informed decision. I guess I`ll just wait for LJ to report on his experience in Zurich and Berlin after that if I am still in a dilemma over which city to monger along with Berlin, I guess I`ll toss a coin to decide. BTW, you guys mention some girls will be away for summer vacation and that might put a drain on the talent available anywhere in Europe, so I was wondering when dose this summer vacation end. Reason I ask this is because I am to an extend flexible with my flight schedule and maybe I can decide when I want to visit EU. Well given this will be my 1st Mongering trip, I do not mind splurging for GFE with some fine hotties.

Alex[/QUOTE]Note to UmichaLex: change in my travel plans and the date for my Zurich visit. See report filed in the Lounge and Chat area, per AM's recommendations for a more tidy Berlin and Artemis thread.

Went back to Kurfurstenstrasse a few hundred yards from the church area I was in the other day. Was a bit miserable out. Kind of like a BAD winter's day in LA. Anyway. I located the exact area where Wanking found young Alisha and the photo booth area. Alisha looked misrable so I went and got her a coca cola at the deli. Then I went with a buxom yet skinny Bulgarian / Romanian sheila. She of the slightly dark features and skin. But man at 6 2" it is a squeeze getting someone to suck your balls in that space. Typical 20 euro straight BBBJ session. I timed it. It lasted all of 11 minutes. Still I ended up cumming in her hand. Went for DATY after but time was up and she smelled a little BAD. I was wearing OLD JEANS. A fishing shirt and torn sneakers. I had 5 lots of 20 Euros on me all in 5 euro denoms. Each hidden in either socks, internal pocket and one pocket so the girls could see I was light on the loot.

Ended up down the road near where my big pimp mate was the other day at a ciccha bar. Hilarious place. Cafe nacht 1001 off Kurfurstrasse down on Potsdamer Platz around 100 yards or so. Full of local MOROCCANS and Lebanese so I got to practice some Arab speak and tried hitting on an absolute 25 yr old stunner. But alas her big boofhead bf was there and he looked like he was "LOADED for BEAR". Still I escpaed with her phone nos. Not sure why cause I've only got another week or so here this time.

Anyway. At the corner of Pots Platz and Kurfurstenstrasse I ran into another SW. Claimed to be a German girl. YOUNG. I was scared she was under 18 so I left and went for a stroll all the way up the other end of Kurfurstenstrasse via Cafe Einstein for a quick look (touristy) then up to Budapeststrasse (?) and a seat at the bar at the Intercontinental. I looked a bit rough so I got some stares. I left spending only 20 quid of my stash. Time for a rest.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1306128]Went for DATY after but time was up and she smelled a little BAD. I was wearing OLD JEANS. A fishing shirt and torn sneakers. I had 5 lots of 20 Euros on me all in 5 euro denoms. Each hidden in either socks, internal pocket and one pocket so the girls could see I was light on the loot.[/QUOTE]Wanking- I do believe you now have your own Mini Me. Or Cunter S. Thompson. Either way, living the dream.

I'm a man of wealth and taste. Well not so much of the taste. Took it under advisement to avoid Oranienburgerstrasse girls but as they are REALLY CLOSE to my hotel digs I thought I would check out this raging East Berlin area.

I walked there the other night and took in the scene. Great vibe even with all the grafiti and rough looking street urchins around. But fuck me some of these WOMEN ARE HOT. Like Nina, Melody and Cheyenne at Artemis hot and there are a few who could bench press 220 I am guessing. Seriously, there is one blonde broad who is taller than me and must pack a punch of the Cassius Clay variety.

Me,"Sie sprechen English"

Her,"Ja Ja. Of course. 100 Euros for one hour."

Me,"What is this the Hyatt or something.".

Her,"75 and I'll suck you."

Me,"Nein, nein. 9."

I walk on to the park area at the end of the street and there is a vision of Nordic beauty standing. I mean swaying there. She is off her face, but still kind of lucid. Local German girl. She will do me in the park for 75 Euros. Looks like the local union has them organized pretty well. Next girl same story except she wants 250 Euros for the night at my hotel. Nope. I leave and walk down to an Irish pub around the corner and then go to the Riva Bar which I walked by a few weeks ago. Headed in here and there are several lovelies, clearly of the WG variety sitting there at the rather cool large oval bar inside and many hotties everywhere. Quite the scene. I grab a drink and wait for a seat to open at the bar.

I just stand there like a big dufus watching 2 very pretty women for about 10 minutes. For WG they are a bit shy it seems. I make eye contact with a mega hot blonde, she must weight 100 lbs wringing wet. She smiles back. I approach. Tell her I am here for a good time in Berlin not a long time and "Bob's your uncle". Within 30 secs she has her hand on my pants and is haggling over a LT price. 300E for the night. I almost choke on my lager and she takes that as a no. Turns her back on me and ignores me.

I find a seat at the bar and a very waify pretty older (40-50) Russian / Bulgarian (?) approaches. She asks for a drink. I offer her a drink at my apartment and some fun. 300 E she says. I say I have only 190 Euros in my wallet and cannot get anymore money today. So if you stay all night I will give you that in the morning. She counters with you can get more money tomorrow. Nope sorry I say I have New Zealand bank account and they only allow 1000E per weekend. I cannot get more until Sunday night. I am using my cc for my drinks I say. She wanders off.

So I sit and have my beer, order another. The Bulgarian goes and talks to the mega hot blonde. The Bulgarian leaves and as soon as she does the blondie comes over and says "Your money. 190 Euros for 1 hour". Me "Nein, nein. 999999999999, all night and you get paid in the morning". Sheepishly she walks away again. 1 hour later it is near midnight and Miss Blondie hasn't had any luck tonight. She comes back to me again. Okay 190 Euros, but I have to leave at 5am. No problem. But I tell her we are walking home as it is close and if she wants the 190 E I am not spending anything on a cab."I want oral without, I want to blow on your tits and CIM. Then I want to fuck you 4 ways. I want at least 3 pops or you are not getting fully paid".

We agree on paying her 80 Euros once we are inside my apartment AFTER she showers and the rest at 5am.

Great time, great lay, tight body and very light. Had the biotch bouncing all over the place. The upside down 69 came into play. She earned her loot and left quietly with her hard earneds. Pics to follow when I download some. Her name is Nastya. Ukrainian / Russian lady. OLD by usual mongering standards but as I am no spring chicken myself, I enjoyed the foray into the older flesh. What a tight fuck. She hangs at RivaBar and when she can at some of the 5 star hotel bars apparently.

Rivabar on Dirksenstrasse. It's worth a look!

"Please to meet you, hope you guessed."

Hi all,

I'll be for the the first time in Berlin in August, and once read all this thread I decided to try flat-rate brothel.

Do you have any updated news about the Caligula or the King George or some othere places like this one?

I also found this place, who looks more "open"

[url]http://www.erlebniswohnung.com/en/[/url]

Anyone has ever been there?

Thank you all, and sorry for my english but it's not my language.

Hi guys.

I'll be in Berlin for the first time in August. I would like to try this flat-rate brothel as Caligula or King George.

Someone as some news about this places? In Berlin there are other flat-rate oriented? Feel free to help.

Thank you all

[QUOTE=JackieBoy; 1307183]Hi all,

I'll be for the the first time in Berlin in August, and once read all this thread I decided to try flat-rate brothel.

Do you have any updated news about the Caligula or the King George or some othere places like this one?

I also found this place, who looks more "open"

[url]http://www.erlebniswohnung.com/en/[/url]

Anyone has ever been there?

Thank you all, and sorry for my english but it's not my language.[/QUOTE]As far as I remember there have been a couple of pretty recent (within the last month or so) reports on both the KG and Caligula. Perhaps you missed them reading the thread.

As for Erlebniswohnung there is a whole thread dedicated to it which is quite active.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3290-Erlebniswohnung-GangBang-Club-Berlin[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1306852]I'm a man of wealth and taste. Rivabar on Dirksenstrasse. It's worth a look!

"Please to meet you, hope you guessed."[/QUOTE]Great report, clear RoD material. I'd RoD it myself if I knew how. Angus?

A terrific post showing exactly how to pick up all-nighters on the street. I admire your tough negotiating stance. A real weak area in my own mongering game.

I will be in town with Kimino later this week and am tempted to try this place out. If you don't mind, can you be a bit more specific about the quality of the women you saw in this bar looks-wise? And how about 'service'. How did your conquest compare to a standard decent session at Artemis, say?

Thanks.

C

RIVABAR. Apparently, the bar is owned by a former footy superstar? Called Gigi Riva, excuse me if I do NOT know who he is. Maybe if he was Zola, or Cantona or even George Best I would know the bloke.

The bar is very cool, kind of in a COLD clinical German way. Cocktails were of the 9 quid up price and beers I think were 3 to 6 or so if that makes sense. But there were plenty of $$$ seeking women of the Premier League variety, Championship Divvie I and even a few amateurs seeking sugar poppas or so it seemed. Found a few rude groups but most people were very friendly to me. I actually circled the room and spoke with many women and couples just in a blokey kind of way unless I got a vibe. I really like the German women. Very direct it seems. I recommend a Fri or Sat night. As my mate went on a Wed and it was "Sausage-fest city".

The Pro. Performance was good from Blondie because I kind of had the $$$$ still mainly in hand and played a solid pre-match strategy of using the counterattack in a 4-5-1. Ie I let the bints know I was either going home alone. Going elsewhere or getting my sweet spot value of pussy there at my price / s. Compared to Artemis where I RATE THE WOMEN VERY HIGHLY. This was say a 65/100 effort by her versus an average 85/100 for the Artemis women I have been with. BBBJ skills are definitely higher at FKKs than from any SW, escort, hotel or BAR hookers I have had except for the Hungarian girls on rosszlanyok. Hu. I think this woman just wanted to avoid the whole cock in mouth thing but obliged for the 110 spondoolies I held back.

I liked the bar versus sitting on the side and as it is oval shaped to oblong shaped it is easy to eye off the candy. Other women I counted. (a habit of mine). Of 57 I counted there was a a few 90/100s. 1 near perfection and a smattering of 80/100s down to ugly WIVES of the near zero garden variety ugly cow. Overall a good looking crowd of all ages.

Quiet night in here then off to Wien tomorrow for a few days.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1307388]The Pro. Performance was .say a 65/100 effort by her versus an average 85/100 for the Artemis women I have been with.[/QUOTE]So deconstructing this a little, beyond the story telling material, entertainment value, of course the indescribable feeling of conquest (for money) , several hours stalking, and almost 200 EUR later, all this results in only a so so session? Not to mention a range of risks run.

Value, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder I guess. Could it be due to the wrong Stones reference? Perhaps the earlier "I Can't Get No." is a better choice.

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1307388]RIVABAR. Apparently, the bar is owned by a former footy superstar? Called Gigi Riva, excuse me if I do NOT know who he is. Maybe if he was Zola, or Cantona or even George Best I would know the bloke.[/QUOTE]I am guessing your teachers used to say that you were not detail oriented? No worries as I was always the researcher from hell.

;)

Here are a couple of links, one to google maps showing the location plus the street view and also the webpage of the bar itself, a kind of annoying, jazzy flash affaire aimed at giving you an experience of the bar no doubt, not at giving you much actual usaful information.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/Oo1BB[/url]

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/8Cq1[/url]

[url]http://www.riva-berlin.de/[/url]

Finally the place does get mention on the website worldsbestbars.

[url]http://www.worldsbestbars.com/germany/berlin/riva[/url]

Good scouting there Belvaros.

AM

[QUOTE=Belvaros;1307388]RIVABAR. Apparently, the bar is owned by a former footy superstar? Called Gigi Riva, excuse me if I do NOT know who he is. Maybe if he was Zola, or Cantona or even George Best I would know the bloke.[/QUOTE]A simple search on Wikipedia will tell you the abouts [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigi_Riva[/url]

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1307572]So deconstructing this a little, beyond the story telling material, entertainment value, of course the indescribable feeling of conquest (for money) , several hours stalking, and almost 200 EUR later, all this results in only a so so session? Not to mention a range of risks run.

Value, like beauty, in the eye of the beholder I guess. Could it be due to the wrong Stones reference? Perhaps the earlier "I Can't Get No." is a better choice.[/QUOTE]Its sounds to me like a pretty fun adventure to me at a modest price and a succesful outcome. Not every session can be a 5 star winner, and at the end of the day, 'we all need someone we can cream on' and blondie did the business. Sorely tempted to try this place. Kimino?

BTW, I suspect the former footy ace referred to may have been Luigi Riva, compatriot and team mate of the great Gianni Rivera. Kimino, again?

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1307633]Its sounds to me like a pretty fun adventure to me at a modest price and a succesful outcome. Not every session can be a 5 star winner, and at the end of the day, 'we all need someone we can cream on' and blondie did the business. Sorely tempted to try this place. Kimino?[/QUOTE]Ahaha Not really my thing I think but If you need support I'll be right there with my laser sword and my flower bathing cap ready to jump out of the dark if you need help! LOL.

I'm looking around to see if there's anything else to be used as an interrupt for Artemis but not really finding much.

That is, except this one:

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/kate1.html[/url]

But I think she is not working on wed / thurs.

Sigh.

[QUOTE=Charlie 123;1307633]BTW, I suspect the former footy ace referred to may have been Luigi Riva, compatriot and team mate of the great Gianni Rivera. Kimino, again?[/QUOTE]That's the man!

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1307658]That is, except this one:

[url]http://www.vankampenberlin.de/kate1.html[/url][/QUOTE]Cool, If the session gets boring you can always spend your time reading her tattoos. Looks like she has a novel written on her body.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1307660]Cool, If the session gets boring you can always spend your time reading her tattoos. Looks like she has a novel written on her body.

AM[/QUOTE]75F boobs, how awesome is that. May be worth a try even at 150 E per hour. Got to play with those bolt ons!

In Vienna for a few days. GT tomorrow. Bars tonight.

[QUOTE=Bionicman; 1307582]A simple search on Wikipedia will tell you the abouts.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigi_Riva[/url][/QUOTE]Yes, sorry was writing hopefully, some useful data from my investigations into new places. I could really care less who owns said place, just added it as info. Should I known said player was a famous Azzuri twat, than, I might have just ignored his reference!

"Party on Wayne"

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1307660]Cool, If the session gets boring you can always spend your time reading her tattoos. Looks like she has a novel written on her body.AM[/QUOTE]Yes, the Illustrated Ho.

On an unrelated but perhaps slightly topic-see the latest showers craze on the Artemis thread, you know the VIP rooms at both Royal and especially KD have some pretty slick en suite showers. A lot more private and doable than the Liebe Bahnhoff, but of course less bragging rights.

Second visit to Berlin and second visit to Kashima, on Kantstraße. I dithered a bit on whether to cancel my appointment and go back to Artemis again (please see my report in the Artemis thread) , weighing up the value-for-money equation between paying €240 for basically a wank versus having paid €320 for three fucks at Artemis a couple of days previously. Decided to stay with Kashima on the basis that variety is the spice of life, and I'm glad that I did.

It's a pity you can't ask for a specific masseuse at Kashima, because if you could I would highly recommend Conny, who seemed to have a genuinely intuitive touch and gave me a wonderfully sensuous, teasing, arousing massage for three hours before finishing me off with a very trippy happy ending.

I practically floated out the door afterwards...

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1308365]...a pity you can't ask for a specific masseuse at Kashima, because if you could I would highly recommend Conny, who seemed to have a genuinely intuitive touch and gave me a wonderfully sensuous, teasing, arousing massage for three hours before finishing me off with a very trippy happy ending.[/QUOTE]As far as I know you can request a specific masseuse when booking an appointment at Kashima. As long as the girl is working at the the time you are wanting to have the massage and is not otherwise booked. It is quite possible to book a couple days in advance if you need to.

AM

[QUOTE=Kbkbal;1308365]weighing up the value-for-money equation between paying €240 for basically a wank versus having paid €320 for three fucks at Artemis a couple of days previously.[/QUOTE]Or staying up to twelve hours, and fucking a dozen girls multiple times (including oral without and some anal) at Berlin's Erlbniswohnung for €90 (Monday to Friday) or €100 max, including all you can eat buffet and all the drinks you want?

Decisions, decisions.

Cheers

Thursday morning, actually it was around 14:00, me and Charlie123 making up our mind to see if we would fancy some kind of tour before heading to Artemis. Should we try Liberty? Head straight to Royal? Etc. Etc.

We decide to call up Monrouge to know who was in and to my surprise, Dea was there.

[url]http://www.monrouge.com/models/details/dea.html[/url]

I've been trying (without too much effort) to meet the girl for months but either she wasn't there or she would come in late so I never had a chance. Other interesting girls where present so we both decided to grab a taxi and go to Monrouge.

As said before, Monrouge is quite a nice place, very comfortable, a nice waiting are with big sofas etc. A bar.

We took a drink and after a couple of minutes 3 girls showed up and we started talking a bit.

I decided for Dea and off we went to a room.

Dea looked much more skinny than what I expeted and had her hair pulled up in the back. I initially almost dodn't recognize her, still was beautiful.

We entered a very big room with separate bathroom where a very big Jacuzi and a shower was present.

Talked a bit with her just to break some ice and then we wnet through the unelegant menu part of the the thing. LOL.

She said all the prices for shorter session then 150 for 1hr, +40 for BBBJ, +20 for kissing. I told her I would take the whole kit and that was it.

Took a shower and then we started.

Dea for me was actually an Optiflick but to this was added a very nice and sweet session. Her attitude is really nice and doesn't give you the idea that you are just buying a service. For the details we had DFK, DATY and all the basic stuff. It was quite hot and we swet a lot but it was real fun.

I don't know how much time passed, but when we finished we both took a shower, smoked a cigarette and talked for a while.

I realy enjoyed the session, the girls and the place. I recomend her, will probably repeat.

Next time I will ask her to wear some lingerie for me, I always forget to do this.

Next, met Charlie outside and headed to Artemis.

Great experience.

Thanks Charlie for deciding to try and make them a call!

Kimino

hi all you perverts!

my name is david and i am right now visit berlin and writing this from my hotel room.

i have been here 8 times the last year and there is no other place for me to meet girls, because i love berlin!

i really love streeet girls and want to share my experiences!

i only visit "kuffursenstrasse"/postdammerstrasse" this area is the absolut best place in whole berlin!

the streets arround the "lsd" sex store are the best ways to meet girls!

as you see in my profile name, i am a really perverted man and always and only looking for really perverted kinky extreme stuff.

like dirty extreme games with girls!

i have been here 4 days now and already played with over 7 girls!

so what can i say more about this place:

there is alot of bulguarian / romanian girls here, some of them are really nice and good.

but some of them are just really bad! so be really careful and negotiate everything you want to do before you go with them.

standard prise for these girls are 50 euro, and then you pay 10 euro for the pension (30 minutes).

many of these girls are using drugs, thats no problem for me.

i also recomend that you look for german girls in this area, some of them do everything you want!

i like to abuse some girls and tream them really hard and slap pussy, face spit and stuff.

if you want to do that the price is like about 70-100 euro for 1 hour.

i also love rep001 / toilet games!

alot of these girls are willing to do that! they can shit [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] and stuff on you for about 50-100 euro and you can also lick them clean.

yes i know i am a sick perverted man! .

prices:

bulguarian / romanian girls. fuck and suck 50 euro + 10 euro pension. standard price.

german girls in this area. fuck and suck 50 euros + 10 euro pension. standard price.

rep001 / wet games. differens i use to pay 50-100 euros for 30 minutes (they shit and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] on you)

drug street girls. blow job 20 euro.

bdsm. about 50-100 euro and you can do almost what you want if you have told them before.

if you spend more like 30-100 euro + the price abow you can get some of the girls to let you film & photo.

some only ask for 10 euros more some more.

every girl are negotiable!

so be honest what you want to do and you will get what you want.

i recomend that you take the girl to the pension first time!

if you like her and she is nice, next time you can take her to your hotel.

the hotels often don't have any problem with you taking girls to the room.

and you people how love to humiliate and punish girls, i recomend the bulguarian girls.

they can do anything you want if you give them a good offer, the best girls is the more "ugly ones" and the real drug addicts often do anything for money.

i also will tell you more about my experiences and prices i paid.

and i am a good negotiater.

1 girl- rumanian = i licked her asshole and she spit in my mouth. then she pissed and shit in my face.

i smear the shit in her breast and sucked them clean. price: 100 euro / 1 hour and i also videotaped it.

2 girl: bulguarian = i let her licked my asshole, and slapped her pussy and breast real hard, she started to cry and wanted me to stop, i offered her 20 euro more to countinue she agree. then i fucked her throat untill she vomit. then shit and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140][CodeWord140][/url] on her body. price: 200 euro 1 hour.

3 girl: german = real nice and not good looking girl, i gave her 20 euro for 30 minutes bjb.

4 girl: bulgarian = real nice and good looking girl, licked her asshole for 10 minutes, then she licked mine.

i slaped her face real hard and then put the cum in her face : price 70 euro 30 minutes.

so all i can say more:

the german girls are most honsest!

the bulguarian / romanian girls. some really good some just fooling! so negotiate everything before you go with them.

be nice to the girls and then you can buy everything for money here!

example:

i meet 1 girl like 19 why / o really sexy small and clean girl.

she had bruices all over her body, she met 1 man who liked to torture breast and pussy.

he pais her 500 euroes for 2 hours.

and then he could do anything he wanted!

i meen everything!

so be nice to the girls and honest!

and you will have the best time of your life in berlin (kuffusenstrasse / postdammerstrasse. just go to the big lsd sex shop and walk arround the block, you will understand what i mean!

i hope you like this report!

i will write more when i get home!

i am sorry, but i like really perverted nasty stuff, i know some of you don't like this.

but for you who do, just ask questions if you want more information!

KD.

I visited Kamilla Dee again on 25 July following my unsuccessful visit a few weeks ago.

On this occasion I was shown to a nice room to meet the girls rather than the small plain box room of a few weeks ago (as reported).

I was shown four girls the others being busy.

One of the girls was Penny whose picture is on the web site.

The madam returned and said that one of the girls had said that she had a booking and was no longer available. So the choice was reduced to one from three. The first girl looked to be the most interested but Penny looked very sexy on the web site picture to me, so I chose her instead.

Penny took me to the other apartment one level up, where we were alone. I was shown to a nicely appointed room where I was left alone for a while. So I got undressed. When Penny returned I asked if I could take a shower. I was shown to the shower and Penny waited in the room.

On my return I got into action. Penny was willing and appeared to want to get me to pop as soon as possible. I felt that the chemistry between us was not working at this point. I started to control myself to prolong the action. Penny did not want me to lick her breast because she did not like it.

I noticed the wrinkles on the side of her breast. Penny changed positions on request but after 20 minutes appeared to become frustrated and started to use her hand vigorously, saying 'I am going to get this thing'. I prolonged the encounter for another 5 minutes. As soon as I had popped Penny disappeared from the room for at least 5 minutes and returned with beaming smile. On her return

Penny showed no interest in filling in the remaining time with me and instead started to tidy the room. I had waited on the bed for her return, but when I saw here intentions, I proceeded to get dressed, but slowly.

This encounter is a complete contrast with that of one from a few weeks ago at Royal (as reported).

When I went to leave Penny sped ahead and disappeared into the second floor apartment without a thank you or good bye. The madam did not appear to ask me how things were instead I heard the laughter from behind the door. Penny appeared to enjoy that part of it.

Penny does not appear to me to be as good as she appears in the picture and a picture does not tell a story. I felt as if I was the last of the day and Penny wanted to get it over with so she could get home. There is an asterisk against Penny's name on the web site. Perhaps this should be taken as a warning. Although Kamilla Dee has nice premises my experience at Royal was far better.

Kamilla Dee I understood to be one of the bettere places but I may have to strike Kamilla Dee from the list of places to visit.

[QUOTE=ToiletMan; 1309119]Be nice to the girls and then you can buy everything for money here!

She had bruices all over her body, she met 1 man who liked to torture breast and pussy.

I will write more when I get home.

Just ask questions if you want more information![/QUOTE]I think there is no need to write more-you've pretty much said it. There are some very subtle concepts here of how to be "nice" to the girls. Of course these things go on and I guess it can get aired out on the forum. At least some of the street romantics can have a better picture of what else is going on there. It might all be somewhat less dramatic by not using paragraph returns after each sentence. So it is less biblical in length.

This is tapping into some pretty dark forces, on both sides. It is also pushing legal boundaries. Personally, I find all this deeply revolting and exploitative. I think any follow up might best be handled via PMs.

Nice report David.

I look forward to more of your posts telling us more about Berlin scene.

Before anyone judge this man, everything he does is consensual. This is only a matter of taste, so don't judge this man. He treats the girls well.

[QUOTE=ToiletMan; 1309119]Hi all you perverts!

My name is David and I am right now visit Berlin and writing this from my hotel room.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1309402]Nice report David.

I look forward to more of your posts telling us more about Berlin scene.

Before anyone judge this man, everything he does is consensual. This is only a matter of taste, so don't judge this man. He treats the girls well.[/QUOTE]Got to agree here. I may not be interested in his particular kink but if he is paying for a consensual encounter, and paying well, who is anyone else to say that it is exploitive? That seems to be a false assumption. I mean all the stuff discussed on this forum is probably seen as exploitive by some. Best, in my opinion, is that if you are not interested in TM's post just not to read them. They are obviously controversial.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1309414]Got to agree here. I may not be interested in his particular kink but if he is paying for a consensual encounter, and paying well, who is anyone else to say that it is exploitive? That seems to be a false assumption. I mean all the stuff discussed on this forum is probably seen as exploitive by some. Best, in my opinion, is that if you are not interested in TM's post just not to read them. They are obviously controversial.

AM[/QUOTE]I don't agree, I judge, I'm happy I'm judjing and if it was for me I would confine this crap in a dedicated thread.

If this kind of stuff was to become common on this board I would very probably stop following it.

Nothing personal.

My2cents.

Kimino

aghhhh. really. do we need to get into this form of perversion here. maybe, free speech and all. then again free speech is not consequence free speech. in future i suppose we can add to the ignore list and for the record. almost every street girl i spoke with could be had for 20 euros. fwiw

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1309418]I don't agree, I judge, I'm happy I'm judjing and if it was for me I would confine this crap in a dedicated thread.

If this kind of stuff was to become common on this board I would very probably stop following it.

Kimino[/QUOTE]I knew when I posted earlier this would happen. Our poster also says he understands this is not everyone`s cup of tea (or box of caviar) , and so fair enough. But here are some complications.

First, all countries have laws that do overrule what consenting adults may do. The various stories about internet ads for murder and chopped up bits videos etc. Being an obvious example. TM seems to have skirted this line, but his story about meeting someone who had been "consensually" abused probably crosses it. However inconsistent and selective, there are laws to prevent people from harming themselves. You cannot deny that there is a continuum here and that at some point, there is a line. This varies from person to person but there are limits. And while this is the bane of Libertarians, the fact is that all cultures and societies have ended up with a wide range of taboos and rules on such things.

Angus's point about exploitation itself being a slippery concept is real but again, there is a line. I myself have on occasion bailed on a p4p because I didn't think the provider was in full command of her senses, or seemed (yes yes IMHO) to be of questionable mental stability. I am no angel on this point, and I was probably doing it for myself out of some sense of threat vs some genuine concern for another. But if I feel that consent aside, a partner does not seem at ease with the situation, end of story. You can easily say, well that is all relative and fair enough but I think most (certainly not all, but most) of the girls in the private flats here, or Artemis, are comfortable doing what they do. Of course, if we really knew whatever was driving that-financial pressures, abuse, father stuff, all the usual suspects, we might view this differently. Or they hide it well. But the comfort zone seems real enough.

But call me a prude or narrow, but you (I) just cannot equate, respectful, fun sex as on the same level as what TM described. There are deeper things going on and it is no accident that there are taboos and rules and laws about them. Messing around with human wastes, or some playful low level S&M is one thing (not mine but ok some do enjoy it all) but physical abuse is quite another. Is there a clear dividing line. Again not so simple to say where, but there is a line.

Finally on Kimino's point, I think Albert Camus in [i]The Plague [/i]said it best. When faced with moral relativism, the act of not judging is itself a judgement; you have decided deliberately not to judge. Ultimately we are all our own judges. But having fooled around with anarchy, we decided over several thousand years, that indeed lines needed drawing. No simple answers here and of course you can go on and on about freedom, the proper role of the state, what does "consent" really mean etc. Same argument about smoking, drugs, child porn, etc. All old battles.

When I first read TM's post, I thought, well, let it ride. But it did turn inside my head a few hours, and all these issues started spinning around, so hence this post.

Let us move this to I dunno the Lounge or something, as it could go on and on. It is useful that people see what is happening on the Mean Streets here, and they then decide. At least we now cannot say we do not know. And I also don't think reasonable people, who may well disagree on where the line is drawn, would say there is no line.

Finis-RB

Well nearly all p4p providers have been exploited before plying their trade. Either abused growing up or trafficked or whatever. I don't think we should judge this man. He has committed no illegal acts. And if anyone says they are immoral or unethical, plenty people would say that about all acts of paying for sex.

To say his kinks are "bad" and your own are "OK" is hypocritical. Nobody can force their own place where they draw the line on the rest of this board. I have read far worse on this board.

MY nuts are killing me after a few weeks of intense punting so decided to just walk around this great city for the last 2 days. Going to save my sperm for Jenna when she returns to Artemis FKK next week. Anyway as usual I digress. So I walked from my hotel in midtown Mitte on Friday evening and in no particular order ended up at 1) Billy Wilders 2) Vox 3) Marriott Bar then later on the other side of town the excellent 4) Bellini 5) Rivabar and 6) Reingold Speakeasy.

Plenty of tarts out for the night at each bar with some high end hotel WG types and semi-pros at most venues. I walked into Billy Wilders, was sneered at by the wait-staff so walked out but the other places were fun and generally cool.

Vox. The bar attached to the elegant restaurant is large and filled with couples, business types and a few single women form 20s-60s. I chatted to 3 or 4 30 ish types. Local German lasses on the "party plan". Asked one for price and she almost hit me. Oh well. Next. Drinks are pricey $$$$ and the vibe kind of sterile. The bar man told me they get a lt of p4p later in the night on Thu-Sat generally. Will check back again next week.

[url]http://www.vox-restaurant.de/bar.html[/url]

Marriott Hotel Bar. Been here before and there are several 30 something WGs who sit and smile at single male drinkers. I think the going rate few weeks back was 300Euros. Will go midweek and see what I can partake of.

Bellini. Cool, busy spot with outdoor seating, plenty of couples, plenty of middle aged guys like me and a few really hot semi-pros and wannabe women. Chatted to a pair of Romanian WGs who appeared to be off duty (FKK or brothel girls) who said they went there to find one off rich businessmen for $500 fucks. I laughed and said I could literally die at Artemis before I spent that much. Will be back tonight for a Sunday night gander.

Rivabar. A smentioned before, this can be a greta place

I understand that some people are not like what I writing.

I think my report is good and I thank you members who liked it.

Offcourse there is different people who like different stuff!

I love really nasty kinky and perverted games, But I pay for it!

I never do anything the girls not want to do, I negotiate before and then we agree, so whats wrong with that?

If the girls are working on the street they will proboblay meet really dangerous and sadistic people, and thats not me!

I like most to be humiliated from these girls, and they get paid for doing that!

Also I sometimes love to abuse and slap them hard.

BUT, offcourse I will not go harder on them, if they ask me to stop!

I am perverted kinky extreme and I fucking love it.

I understand that some people are not like what I writing.

I think my report is good and I thank you members who liked it.

Offcourse there is different people who like different stuff!

I love really nasty kinky and perverted games, But I pay for it!

I never do anything the girls not want to do, I negotiate before and then we agree, so whats wrong with that?

If the girls are working on the street they will proboblay meet really dangerous and sadistic people, and thats not me!

I like most to be humiliated from these girls, and they get paid for doing that!

Also I sometimes love to abuse and slap them hard.

BUT, offcourse I will not go harder on them, if they ask me to stop!

I am perverted kinky extreme and I fucking love it!

If some people have problems with that, don't read my posts!

I know some people really like this.

David

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1309185]. Etc.

Penny took me to the other apartment one level up, where we were alone.

Etc.

When I went to leave Penny sped ahead and disappeared into the second floor apartment without a thank you or good bye. The madam did not appear. Etc.[/QUOTE]1) When you wrote "second floor" do you mean the floor with the board "Text&Form" (If I remember well, depending on US or UK, first floor = ground floor and so second floor = third floor!)

If the meeting took place at the floor above the one with the board "Text&Form", in general, the "madam" didn't appear anymore (unless she was bringing up towels or some other housekeeping jobs)

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1309185]. Etc.

There is an asterisk against Penny's name on the web site. Perhaps this should be taken as a warning. Etc.[/QUOTE]Ladies with asterik : in general, that means that, in spite of their presence on the schedule, they may be absent; so it' s better to call the house before coming.

[QUOTE=ToiletMan;1309119]I am sorry, but I like really perverted nasty stuff, I know some of you don't like this.[/QUOTE]No, you are not sorry! If you were, you wouldn't have written so much about it! So don't apologize if it's not sincere and not for something that doesn't require an apology in the first place. You like what you do, the ones you did it with didn't object, so why the apology, especially when no laws were broken?

The only thing I really disliked about your report was the layout. In the future, please don't make a seperate column of each sentence and simply write a regular text.

[quote=swingerlover;1309842]the only thing i really disliked about your report was the layout. in the future, please don't make a separate column of each sentence and simply write a regular text.[/quote]

indeed. and to then post it basically 2 times, recently. so purely in the interest of conserving isg page space.......

i think really the best solution is that a new berlin thread or germany thread is created such as the perv zone or some name the people feel is appropriate. i understand all too well the argument on both sides, but i know a lot of us are uncomfortable with this stuff here. it might just be better if it finds another home.

it may well be absurd to enforce some sort of minimal behaviour code here as the free for all give and take is what makes the forum. i understand others do not agree and have the right not to. and this whole business is fraught with complex issues, such as who appoints who to create and enforce standards. but i think from some pms i've gotten, and some of the other comments posted, there is a developing "community" sense that these rough thoughts can be expressed but really belong elsewhere.

there is a big difference between reflecting some sort of group value judgement and "hypocricy", which is saying one thing and doing another (for those cocksure about such things). if a number of people think they should ignore tms posts, block him, or even say if the forum continues in this vein they will stop reading it, suggests a broader discomfort.

i will however say again that i really do find it personally revolting. free speech is one thing. but to think that

1 / by merely stating one is a pervert, this grants some sort of absolution where anything goes, and
2 / if a girl "willingly agrees" to be paid to be slapped around and abused, that all is well with the world, is just imho ludicrous. it is also bordering on some thin legal ice.

is this judgement arbitrary, ignoring all sorts of issues like all working girls have deep psychological and financial/power issues that we mongers are tapping into to a greater or lesser extent, etc.? yep. it is arbitrary.
do i bury these thoughts when dabbling? yep. most def.
do i have all kinds of silly rationalizations at hand to make it all ok? yep.
is thus saying there is a line here ridiculous? yep.

but it does not change the (my) sense that there is a line, and it has been crossed.
such is the state of play in our murky, imperfect world.

but for all you pervs yearning to breathe free, i am defending your right to say it. just that i think it belongs elsewhere. so let us just see if perhaps the simple answer is to create a new zone for such things, and if others agree?

Very well written RB!

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1309912]. Etc.

I think really the best solution is that a new Berlin Thread or Germany Thread is created such as the Perv Zone or some name the people feel is appropriate. Etc.[/QUOTE]It's a good idea : for example the subforum "Special thems" in this German forum :

[url]http://www.freiercafe.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71[/url]

Reingold Speak easy. More of a couples and drinking place than a pick up joint for me. A good vibe and VERY NICE wait staff. Stayed here 2 hours Friday night and returned Saturday before heading to Bellini again where I ran into some of the Wg's I had met at Rivabar. They must think I am following them. Tried haggling at 130 Euros for LT as that was all I had (or so I told them). They all laughed me off. (maybe the union has reported my previous conquest). Anyway a good time was had. There are freebies of all ages with looks from 25/100 to 75/100 on the "wfa" scale. Didn't try as I would rather jack off then listen to some bint all night after I fucked her. So on I pressed.

Rivabar. Round 3. Sat night. Good crowd indoors and out. Hit up several local schwarzer girls and took a pro home for ST for the glorious rate of 1/2 bottle of Weingut Cuvee, a bottle of beer and an ice-cream (yes this lassie likes icecream). Young Alyssa it appears is from Abidjan (Senegal) and was sponsored to get here by a brothel in Hamburg who onsold her services. Very sad tale if true. As she had to do a runner but luckily she met an old (70s) local guy who keeps her fed, clothed and with a roof when she hasn't got one.

If you head to any of the bars she hangs out at Rivabar, Bellini, and sometimes around the SW areas (she is scared of pimps there though) and some other local nightclub spots I will ask her about this week. Appears there are 10 or 20 other girls in the same boat coming over from hamburg soon she says. I recommended she set up an account here and advertise. $20 is a bargain.

Alyssa is 6 feet, very thin (probably 125 lbs at most I mean. THIN) with natural B+ cups, delicious smile and very very dark skin. Sweet disposition and a bit of a look like Brandi. I will catch up with her again Wed and maybe for a few days and will ask about pics. She wants 500 Euros for a week but as I am busy for business I told her I would go 360 for 4 days and feed her etc. Very nice lady. Says she is 28, her English is poor. As is my French. So we kind of mongrel along in bad German and spent all night going at it. Wild child in bed

BUGGER me. I am so sick today and my dick and balls are really bad. Bloody agonizing. Any chance an STD symptom would show up in 3-4 days. Off to the doctors office. My hotel offered to get me an in call but I am kind of embarrassed enough as it is. Only time I have felt this terrible was after a session in Budapest which I reported some years ago.

Moral to the story. Don't go DATY on African broads or BBBJ or AO or anything like that. Maybe I will just refrain. This kills my Artemis plans and Jenna. And I was so looking forward to seeing her face (I mean boobs).

"Party LESS Wayne"

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1310175]BUGGER me. I am so sick today and my dick and balls are really bad. Bloody agonizing. Any chance an STD symptom would show up in 3-4 days. Off to the doctors office. My hotel offered to get me an in call but I am kind of embarrassed enough as it is. Only time I have felt this terrible was after a session in Budapest which I reported some years ago.

Moral to the story. Don't go DATY on African broads or BBBJ or AO or anything like that. Maybe I will just refrain. This kills my Artemis plans and Jenna. And I was so looking forward to seeing her face (I mean boobs).

"Party LESS Wayne"[/QUOTE]B-Sent you a PM, for obvious reasons. Looks like the bill has come due. Hope you'll take it seriously and be responsible. Good luck.

[quote=bobo. fr; 1310007]it's a good idea : for example the subforum "special thems" in this german forum :

[url]http://www.freiercafe.com/forumdisplay.php?f=71[/url][/quote]bobo. good idea so i have set up a new thread at the top of the german list.

now all you s & m lords, slappers, slammers, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116][CodeWord116][/url] scoopers, rep002 drinkers, abusers, and pervs of all persuasions etc have a nice, new, safe playground.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1309587]1) When you wrote "second floor" do you mean the floor with the board "Text&Form" (If I remember well, depending on US or UK, first floor = ground floor and so second floor = third floor!)

If the meeting took place at the floor above the one with the board "Text&Form", in general, the "madam" didn't appear anymore (unless she was bringing up towels or some other housekeeping jobs)

Ladies with asterik : in general, that means that, in spite of their presence on the schedule, they may be absent; so it' s better to call the house before coming.[/QUOTE]I walked up the stairs until I saw a door with text and form on it. I thought this was the second floor, but I am not certain now. It was in that apartment that I was shown the line up.

When I went with Penny we went up a level.

I did not get the 45 miutes that I paid for.

Great Berlin report Wanking! I enjoyed it a lot. I'm off to Berlin on Monday, but have very limited time. I have a so so prearranged date with two girls, bisexual, but I'm not sure anything will turn out. I have another Romanian girl for a possible date, but yet not sure. So I might go to a club, and perhaps Caligula or another option. (see my Caligula report from last year in September). Some street fun is tempting as well. Perhaps just for the fun, even if I won't do anything. However a corner street blow job is actually quite exiting! Have done that in the past and it can be very good, but its a hit and miss.

Cheers and happy hunting!

/Felix.

P. S I also feel the hard core Perv thing should be moved on to another forum. I doubt few guys here can contribute with anything, and I doubt most get disturbed by it. Freedom of speach or not. Its just bad to place it here. And for those who enjoy abusing girls, when the girl obviously suffer - cry, bruises and etc, there is NO sympathy from my side. Even if she agrees on a money deal. She ows money to a pimp or must get drugs, and thats why. Thats force, or at least super bad taste and deeply immoral and wrong. Period.

[quote=toiletman; 1309578]i understand that some people are not like what i writing.

i think my report is good and i thank you members who liked it.

offcourse there is different people who like different stuff!

i love really nasty kinky and perverted games, but i pay for it!

i never do anything the girls not want to do, i negotiate before and then we agree, so whats wrong with that?

if the girls are working on the street they will proboblay meet really dangerous and sadistic people, and thats not me!

i like most to be humiliated from these girls, and they get paid for doing that!

also i sometimes love to abuse and slap them hard.

but, offcourse i will not go harder on them, if they ask me to stop!

i am perverted kinky extreme and i fucking love it!

if some people have problems with that, don't read my posts!

i know some people really like this.

david[/quote]from what i read, you nearly only gotten negative responses! at least in the open. i bet if you got positives they are to ashamed to admit it. who are they if they even do exist? what does that tell? its not the correct forum for your tastes? from a normal human standpoint it also tells that you ought to look into the mirror, and analyse what you do.

i feel a lot of people do have problems with reading your posts. i do, and i won't apologize for that. simple feedback of that? stop posting here and take it to another place! its not we who should avoid reading your posts, its you who should spare us from this misery! you're on another planet, yet you do not realise it! with that said, i usually do not moralize, but i feel in this case it is needed. i have done so in the past about certain mongerers commiting [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124][CodeWord124][/url] in ukraine, and i will do it again. my comments (i like to think so. because it was not cool anymore) actually shut the mouths of those bragging with [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] girls. i could not have proceeded in another way, because that is human to go against that! that sort of behaviour can never be defended as it is totally wrong! because it destroys the girls, it destroys the fun men can have in the future, and its just overdoing it in a sick way! totally wrong, period, over and out!

i want to make a separation here. if a girl with free will advertise that she wants to get abused, cry, get slapped, tortured, eat shit, then its ok. but hey, are the girls in forced position under certain circumstances free to really make that choice?

what do you think will become of this girl in the future who cried and vomited? do you think she will look back on her experiences and say, hell yes, that was cool? do you? i don't, and i bet many other decent people won't. you are hurting girls and you know it, and yet you do it? i suggest you contact a shrink and try to get help for your problems. you know you are wrong, and you just try to find excuses to make it more acceptable.

/felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic;1311722]P. S I also feel the hard core Perv thing should be moved on to another forum.[/QUOTE]Felix. If you read the forum recently, this is all now old news. There is a new thread "Special Themes" on the Germany site. You all can continue there.

Including any responses back to Felix's strong feelings.

Thanks RB

I tried the King George FlatRate:

[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/startseite.html[/url]

It is a scam. You pay 99 Euros at the door and they tell you there are 10 girls inside. In reality there are 6 (5 Romanians and 1 Bulgarian).4 girls from 3-5/10 in beauty (ugly) and 2 girls as 6-6, 5/10 (just OK).

The first girl asked me for 10 euros for a BBBJ and I declined. She was ok with it but after 5 minutes she told me to finish. So I stopped without coming.

The second girl asked me for 20 euros for BBBJ which I gave. She blew me 3 minutes and put the condom. She then told me not to touch her breasts unless I pay extra money. I then finished and left the club.

I told the story to the manager at the door and he was not surprised. He said it was normal.

This is the typical Romanian scamming mentality you'll find in brothels across Europe.

No fun and ugly girls.

Pays to do your homework before you spend your dosh. King George has been getting mediocre and bad reviews for some time.

Next time try the Erlebniswohnung Gang Bang place, it's all inclusive you get BBBJ at no additional cost (and even anal at no additional cost from some girls).

[QUOTE=Derekk; 1311822]I tried the King George FlatRate:

[url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/startseite.html[/url]

It is a scam. You pay 99 Euros at the door and they tell you there are 10 girls inside. In reality there are 6 (5 Romanians and 1 Bulgarian).4 girls from 3-5/10 in beauty (ugly) and 2 girls as 6-6, 5/10 (just OK).

The first girl asked me for 10 euros for a BBBJ and I declined. She was ok with it but after 5 minutes she told me to finish. So I stopped without coming.

The second girl asked me for 20 euros for BBBJ which I gave. She blew me 3 minutes and put the condom. She then told me not to touch her breasts unless I pay extra money. I then finished and left the club.

I told the story to the manager at the door and he was not surprised. He said it was normal.

This is the typical Romanian scamming mentality you'll find in brothels across Europe.

No fun and ugly girls.[/QUOTE]

I reported before I may have an STD. Appears I am clean apart from some bug which is more virus related to someone's bad hygiene at a cafe / pub / restaurant etc. I do have a twisted vas def which has been painfully operated on.

I hope you are all well.

I will be giving p4p a miss for a few months

Went to Kashima today. Was served by Katarzyna. By far the best 'hand job' I ever had. When she actually started on the concentrated lingam-massage it only took three or four handstrokes before I came. But how she build it up over 2. 5 hours was in a way also a part of my orgasm. Will write more soon.

[QUOTE=Belvaros; 1312324]I reported before I may have an STD. Appears I am clean apart from some bug which is more virus related to someone's bad hygiene at a cafe / pub / restaurant etc. I do have a twisted vas def which has been painfully operated on.

I hope you are all well.

I will be giving p4p a miss for a few months[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that things are relatively okay. Get well and look forward to report of further adventure.

AM

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1311733]-

I want to make a separation here. If a girl with free will advertise that she wants to get abused, cry, get slapped, tortured, eat shit, then its ok. But hey, are the girls in forced position under certain circumstances free to really make that choice?

What do you think will become of this girl in the future who cried and vomited? Do you think she will look back on her experiences and say, hell yes, that was cool?

-[/QUOTE]Here's one that definitely says "Yes, that was cool!" when she looks back on her experiences:

[url]www.shitlover.de[/url]

And for the record: I'm not into caviar-games. The involontary shit-experience I had at the BareBackKreis-Party in March was quite enough. (Sorry, off toppic again, because none of this is related to Berlin. How about posting in the "Opinions"-forum in the future?)

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1312583]Here's one that definitely says "Yes, that was cool!" when she looks back on her experiences:
[/QUOTE]Well well well. So SwingerLove loves Shitlover. I am completely torn between how useful this is, how relevant this is, and how erotic this is.

As you yourself said it is way off topic re the Berlin thread. I mean, why bother? This belongs clearly in Special Themes, or some new section called WTF. Or just heave it in the toilet. It is really silly season now.

Have a great day.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1312600]Well well well. So SwingerLove loves Shitlover. I am completely torn between how useful this is, how relevant this is, and how erotic this is.

As you yourself said it is way off topic re the Berlin thread. I mean, why bother? This belongs clearly in Special Themes, or some new section called WTF. Or just heave it in the toilet. It is really silly season now.

Have a great day.[/QUOTE]For the record AGAIN: I'm NOT into caviar-games myself. (Although I admit that watching some of it has a certain morbid fascination. That however passed very quickly when I was confronted with it in real life.) How erotic, useful and relevant it is? Only to people who like it or are at least curious about it.

And it's still off topic here, so I'm forced to wonder why you guys still write about it here and in doing so invite further replies.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1312611]And it's still off topic here, so I'm forced to wonder why you guys still write about it here and in doing so invite further replies.[/QUOTE]Forced eh? Time to check those meds.

What did the sadist say to the masochist when the masochist asked to be hit?"No"

What do we say when trolled?

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1312611]For the record AGAIN: I'm NOT into caviar-games myself. (Although I admit that watching some of it has a certain morbid fascination. That however passed very quickly when I was confronted with it in real life.) How erotic, useful and relevant it is? Only to people who like it or are at least curious about it.

And it's still off topic here, so I'm forced to wonder why you guys still write about it here and in doing so invite further replies.[/QUOTE]If only I had a € for every time that I have been in the shit, figuratively not literally, then I would never have to make a ATM withdrawal for any of my visits to the playrooms around the globe.

E.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1312583]Here's one that definitely says "Yes, that was cool!" when she looks back on her experiences:

[url]www.shitlover.de[/url]

And for the record: I'm not into caviar-games. The involontary shit-experience I had at the BareBackKreis-Party in March was quite enough. (Sorry, off toppic again, because none of this is related to Berlin. How about posting in the "Opinions"-forum in the future?) [/QUOTE]When you know your off topic, why on earth did you bother to answer me? I do not doubt and fine for those who like it, but that does not go for all girls in the game. Then you're really naive. Is there something you need to prove, or just for the sake or writing or show off? Or provocate? Take it to the correct thread and continue there please.

This theme is dead here, and please lets focus on Berlin.

Was in Berlin on Monday eve, and as I suspected my "possible dates" gave no harvest. I found these two girls on mydirtyhobby. Com, which is quite an expensive site, but lots of so called amatuer girls, showing own made porn vids and pictures, and also expensive web cam shows. However they mostly seem to be after web cam shows and people paying to see their amatuer videos. All from total amatuers to porn girls like Melanie Moon.

So, going to Berlin, I had in Mind either FFK Artemis, Caligula, or Erlebniswohnung, but the latter close early, or old bet Caligula, or street girls.

So, I went to a club I been to before, and hit Flat rate Caligula. After a too long walk from my hotel I talked to the bouncer infront of Caligula if there were many girls inside. I had in mind that it was Monday and could be a bit dead. He said yes, there are 14 girls. So, I thought to myself, ok, thats it, I'm going in. Payed the E 99 and got 5 phoney USD bills as tip to the best girls dancing, I went inside.

And it was a disappointment. Perhaps 3. 4 girls visible on none of them hot enough for my taste. Darn, I have payed 99, took a chance and it already seems like a bad deal. Quite a few men, but very few girls. Bad combination, if you look for what I do. But since I have payed, in order to protect my investment, I stayed to see if more girls were comming out from the rooms that would make me hungry. I waited and nothing happened. So I decided to go with a well trained and fit girl from Bulgaria. She was ok looking from a distance and she had a bit of a fitness girls body and almost a six pack on her stomach. After closer inspection she was + 30, nut much above but still. Went into a tiny bad lit room with her and asked her, after washing my dick, what kind of extras she does. She said all. Oral without, oral with CIM and anal. Thats a bit of a surprise as last year none did CIM. However I only went for BBBJ and normal sex as she was not that good looking to liberate my load. Well as + 30 she was experienced and I could feel that when she gave me a BBBJ. That was ok, and she also showed great energy when I fucked her. Good in doggy with her well groomed butt. So, it did cost me a E 10 extra and was ok after all, good attitude, but no repeat as she was not Optik enough for me.

After I came from the room out I spotted what looked like a sweet busty girl. I would estimate close to D cups, or at least large C. Nice, because I was in to huge racks after last days fantasies. Not the best face and not that slim, but a good body and definately a girl for the boobs lover. Her name is Anka from Romania. Nice tits to fondle, and to see, but not that good at sex. However it was worth 10 E extra for BBBJ and to massage her tits. But when I did her in mish I cam close to her face and smelled a really bad breath. Turn off! But I continued, but no finish. No wish for repeat even if she continued to give me signs later.

When I came out again to the main lounge, I did spot a sweetie pie, Amy from Romania, that I did last year. She is optically very good looking from a distance and good still att close range. I approached her and talked but she did of course not remember me, but she was glad and smiled when I remembered her. Beautiful face and eyes and slim body! Oh, yes! Off to the room, and decided for BBBJ and anal. No, she does not do CIM! Sadly. But the rest was all fine with her! Good blowjob, and good shagging. She is sweet and recomended, and she is not a typical Romanian shark. Far from it actually! She did look more worn than last years encounter, but she was still the best looking girl in the club. She could have been in a FKK club. And, she was hot and did not mind hard shagging and that goes for anal as well. At first we enjoyed a nice 69 and I ate her pussy and got a good tongue fucking of her ass. Yummie! Good hard anal and I decided to unload, and it was great! She is very sweet and gives good energy. Great meeting and probably around to 30 mins than the standard 20 mins.

After her I went out for pizza and to have a break. They really need to install air con in that club. Drinks are free and cold, but after a session with energy in those sauna rooms, your sweat like a pig!

I shoudnt ramble more, because it was more or less the same for the reast of my stay. Girls were not as beautiful as last time. However more girls did offer CIM. And thats good, but still the line up was not so good looking. And there were 7-9 girls at most, and not 14 as the big bouncer at the door stated.

So, I decided to do a few girls more just because it was for free. Did a sweet looking short Romanian girl who had nice eyes and smiled and was giggling a lot. Good tits. Fun in the room, so I challanged her and asked her for sex without condom. Ohne gummi and she just smiled. And I told her seriously, how much. And she wrote 50 with her fingers on the wall. I told her its too much and said 20. She smiled, and said no. She said dreizig. (30) I smiled back and said, no, maybe later. It was just a test to see if its possible. Ok sex, but she did not give good energy. After sex I asked her how many guys she had for the evening. She said 18. I understood that she was tired and even showed signs of pain when I did her hard, which is not so nice. No hard intense shagging, and knowing she feels pain is not a turn on. Interesting after all.

Lastly I did Amy again, and she was still a good looking girl. My poor Romanian jokes and talking was doing a good job, and she gave almost GFE. Good hard anal again and I finished all sweaty. Good session again and longer than 20 mins. And she asked me when I come back. Thats still nice even if she probably does not mean it. At least I made her smile, and that was honest. Feels good.

I did 6 girls, but only one was really hot, and thats Amy from Romania. Two more girls were ok, but the rest not so ok. Some girls were not doable at all.

Caligula might perhaps be a hit and miss, but it was a disappointment after last years sex marathon.

I had 7 sessions in all, all BBBJ and x2 times anal with Amy. It set me back E 220 in total. Amy saved my evening from a disaster.

Yes a lot of shagging, but the quality and beauty of the girls made me wonder if I will come back. I actually do not think so. I think I would go for better quality and fewer shags. Next time in Berlin it will be FKK Artemis, though it is very expensive. Provided I can't find any other providers.

Cheers.

/Felix

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic; 1313200]I did 6 girls, but only one was really hot, and thats Amy from Romania. Two more girls were ok, but the rest not so ok. Some girls were not doable at all.

Caligula might perhaps be a hit and miss, but it was a disappointment after last years sex marathon.

I had 7 sessions in all, all BBBJ and x2 times anal with Amy. It set me back E 220 in total. Amy saved my evening from a disaster.

Yes a lot of shagging, but the quality and beauty of the girls made me wonder if I will come back. I actually do not think so. I think I would go for better quality and fewer shags. Next time in Berlin it will be FKK Artemis, though it is very expensive. Provided I can't find any other providers.

Cheers / Felix[/QUOTE]Felix. Interesting if sobering report. AO for 30, after having possibly done 18 or so guys. Good to know what mongers are getting into (so to speak). The odds of something bad happening, bacterially or virally, clearly different there, and people should realise the choices they are making.

While it does require some planning, next time, you might try the private apartments-some fine options available, and of late, a lot of good new talent. It is more expensive. And I guess if you are into high numbers of multiple sessions per day, Artemis indeed is a more cost effective option, although some private flat girls may allow multiple pops per hour. But I think overall the quality and relative safety of the experience makes these other alternatives pretty compelling.

[QUOTE=Felix Nordic;1313168]This theme is dead here, and please lets focus on Berlin.[/QUOTE]Okay, let's!

[url]www.fickanzeigen.net/partytermine/index.php?id=1344250302[/url]

Just as a pointer for ToiletMan and other people with the same fetish IN BERLIN for this coming Saturday.

Hi.

I looked through the forum to find some directions reg. The entrance at VK. Most posts say it's next to a Bauhaus store. I looked at the building on google-maps, and there's three entrances to that building. One drive-in entrance, one which says Freizeit over the door, and the southernmost one. Do you enter from the street?

Thanks, I just don't want to walk into some computer-store, asking around for "das bordell" :P.

Cheers,

C

[QUOTE=Cryo73; 1314129]Hi.

I looked through the forum to find some directions reg. The entrance at VK. Most posts say it's next to a Bauhaus store. I looked at the building on google-maps, and there's three entrances to that building. One drive-in entrance, one which says Freizeit over the door, and the southernmost one. Do you enter from the street?[/QUOTE]It is kind of fucked up on google street view as there are two rental trucks in the way. But it is the entrence behind the first truck. In any case just go up and look on the buzzer for the Van Kampen buzzer. Believe me nobody cares where you are going and why.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/IjSJz[/url]

A

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1314175]It is kind of fucked up on google street view as there are two rental trucks in the way. But it is the entrence behind the first truck. In any case just go up and look on the buzzer for the Van Kampen buzzer. Believe me nobody cares where you are going and why.

[url]http://goo.gl/maps/IjSJz[/url]

A[/QUOTE]The Bauhaus store closed in July so that won't help. But there is a VW car dealer, and it is just to the left on the south west side of the street. Easy to find.

Like dass Dude says, their name is clearly on the buzzer so just keep looking. Once inside, they are on the first floor, left at top of stairs,

Van K itself is moving a 50-100 hundred meters south I believe around 15 Sept. I have a feeling they may rip down the whole building.

hi guys,

back in berlin and here is my experience:

first day, went round the lsd block at the kurfurstenstrasse & genthiner crossing at 11am. already a wide.

variety of sw including a few stunners (8-9). kept away from an **** at a sideroad from genthiner (probably the same one mentioned on the berlin

forum a few days ago. decided for a quick handjob by a stunner at the lsd booths. nice attitude, touching allowed, damage 20 plus a few coins for the booth.

on saturday went to erlebniswohnung and this was incredible! i arrived at 7pm to get the reduced entrance fee which was 80.

and believe me, you will not get better value for money. this was my first time to a gangbang and i was nervous but i had to go as it has always been on my wish list.

so i went to touch the bell on 155 karl marx st and before i did the door buzzed open. went up one floor and once again the door opened before i could.

touch the bell. reception was great, i speak no german and the girl straight away started yelling for another girl. she was beautiful and showed me around the place.

and how it worked in english.

being my first time at a scene like this i didn't know how i would react but the atmosphere was relaxed and i felt comfortable. there are two bedrooms where the.

action takes place, a living room for resting with sofas, tv, fridge and food and a corridor. all the guys who were not in action were walking around with towels.

around their waists which helped to make it easy and being a foreigner didn't seem to bother anybody.

i started off having some food and drink and then went to one of the bedrooms with the towel around me and observed the incredible scene, a massive bed with two women.

and a bunch of guys, fucking, being sucked, masturbating etc. i sat on the edge of the bed, still with the towel and got really turned on, while watching and touching.

myself. nearly everybody who is not in action was masturbating, nobody stared, it doesn't matter if you are fat, thin, whatever, and if you are in action the scene and the.

ladies are observed not the person himself, at least that's the feeling i had.

one guy who was fucking a lady, oldish face but beautiful body, finished and i barely had time to put on a condom and slip in her, doggy style, when i came.

disappointed with myself, i picked up the towel and went back to the living room to recover.

now, i'm no tarzan, but i managed to come round 4 times. this is impossible for me, i can barely manage twice, except for once, many many years ago, where i came.

7 times one night, this related to my wife's beautiful cousin, but that's another story.

so, after recovery, checked both bedrooms, both had two ladies each, selected the room i liked most and took in the scene while touching myself. i noticed one blonde.

who actually swallowed a load, which surprised me, so i gradualy made my way but another blonde came and the swallower left so i started fucking this beautiful blonde.

with incredible legs and when i was close to climax i pulled out and took off the condom and put myself in her mouth, as i had observed that all oral sex was uncovered, with the.

idea of finishing while she sucked me but she pulled away and said to come on her tits so i did, with some disappointment.

back to the living room and then back to the action. as i said, this is not normal in me at all, but after an hour's rest, a beer or two, followed by a visit to the.

toilet, i found myself getting turned on by the scenes, so i put myself, uncovered, in this beautuful black girl's mouth and she sucked really good until cim, no.

problem.

another long rest and back to the action. now, there was a screamer, older than the other girls but very sexy body, dirtyish face, with long and thick nipples.

the screaming was turning me on so i got nearer and nearer. there were a couple of guys alternating between masturbating and fucking her and she was shuddering.

i later found out that she was not a pro but someone who's really into it and was there with her hurband or boyfriend. i saw that she was actually.

squirting while shuddering and screaming from the masturbation. i could tell this was for real. while squirting and comming a guy had his penis in her mouth and.

came. he finished and cum was drooling out from her mouth, not because she was spitting, but because of the shuddering and screaming. this was too much for me, i.

just put myself in her mouth while the other guy's cum was still there and drooling out of her mouth and between the squirting, the cum on her face, the action,

it was too much and shot my load in her mouth. the look on her face, not beause of me, but because of everything that was going on with her was of adoration.

i will definitely return this week coming, it was just too good. i did not consider it difficult to get access to the ladies, at least the day i went, and it was a.

saturday and i saw no problems with the micromanagement that some people have mentioned. when the girls have to take a rest, either a third one comes and joins the.

action and the other doesn't leave until she finishes who she's doing or they pass the customers on, at least when i was there.

hope this helps the fainthearted and newbies.

Thanks for Erlebswohnung report Jam Jam, not really in the right place though, maybe a moderatot could move it to the "Erlebniswohnung Gang Bang" thread?

In Berlin for a 4 day sex-holiday to Artemis, but I took a visit to Royal (my first) on my second morning and I'm very glad I did. The place was easy to get to. Right at the Bundesplatz S-Bahn station. Buzzed in and went to the 2nd floor where the hausmutti showed me to a room. She spoke no English, but I knew enough German to get by. A parade of about six girls ensued. Not too bad for a Saturday morning. One blonde German girl named Nadine caught my eye. I remembered a post that mentioned that some students were to be found here and Nadine could easily pass for a college coed (if not younger)! She is blonde, ultra-petite and very cute. Later she told me she was 21, but she could easily pass for several years younger. I paid extra for kissing and that paid off in spades. She is a good kisser and I enjoyed rubbing her tiny frame as we made out. I journeyed down to taste her puss and was rewarded with a nice juicy tasty cunny. It seems that most of the Artemis girls all have clean, yet very sterile pussies with almost no flavor. Nadine's had the faint musk of an excited young girl. Not overpowering, but still present and enjoyable. She got into the DATY. A discrete hand on my arm told me that fingers inside was not for her. No matter, she came with a good moan and shudder. She then gave a pretty good CBJ and jumped on for some cowgirl. Grabbing her tiny titties while she rode me is forever etched in my mind. I never do well with condoms, so she finished with her hand as she suckled on my nips. We cuddled and chatted for the remainder of my 30 min. Too bad she doesn't work on Sundays. I would have booked 2 hours with this sweet thing.

IMHO I think that the lineup at Royal was better than KD from a year ago. I also totally lucked out in finding Nadine, but I will say that this was the best GFE I found in Berlin hands down! Artemis will continue to be my main place to monger, but I will add Royal to the regular mix. I will also sample Kashima and decide if that is worth the hefty price tag.

[quote=jam jam; 1314268]hi guys,

back in berlin and here is my experience:

first day, went round the lsd block at the kurfurstenstrasse & genthiner crossing at 11am. already a wide.

variety of sw including a few stunners (8-9). kept away from an **** at a sideroad from genthiner (probably the same one mentioned on the berlin

forum a few days ago. decided for a quick handjob by a stunner at the lsd booths. nice attitude, touching allowed, damage 20 plus a few coins for the booth.

on saturday went to erlebniswohnung and this was incredible! i arrived at 7pm to get the reduced entrance fee which was 80.[/quote]that was a very nice reoprt, but very difficult to read because of the shitty layout. don't use "enter" after each column, that only produces unnecessary hard returns in the report as it appears here on forum. just write a regular text and use "enter" only to seperate columns and not to turn each line into a single column. the otherwise nice report would have been so much easier to read.

and another remark: since you mostly wrote about erlebniswohnung, you should have put the big part about erlebniswohnung into the seperate thread for this place in the germany partytreff clubs forum here on isg.

keep up the good work. and i'm looking forward to your next report about your next visit there.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1314422]That was a very nice reoprt, but very difficult to read because of the shitty layout. DON'T use "enter" after each column, that only produces unnecessary hard returns in the report as it appears here on forum. Just write a regular text and use "enter" only to seperate columns and not to turn each line into a single column.[/QUOTE]Most def on all accounts.

But to clarify, what SL means is don't hit the enter key after each "sentence". Use them only to separate "paragraphs". The word "column" is confusing, as it normally means a vertical space or one of several paragraphs stacked side-by-side. Hence the use of the word in Excel or Word tables, or newspaper columns, or the use in Greek and Roman architecture, as in those massive vertical supports.

I don't mean to be academic-but for our many welcome, helpful non-native English posters and readers, understanding this may be useful.
As we have seen this layout problem with some other gang bang reports, it could be that gang-banging disrupts a normal sense of grammar.

[QUOTE=Jam Jam;1314268]On Saturday Went to Erlebniswohnung and this was incredible! I arrived at 7pm to get the reduced entrance fee which was 80.[/QUOTE]Brilliant report Jam Jam thank you!

Hi!

Lately I've been really inserted in trying a nuru massage.

Has anyone here got one in Berlin?

I know there's a few girls offering it at Euphorie ([url]http://www.euphorie-massagen.de[/url]). Anyone tried it?

Hi!

Has anyone tried a Nuru massage somewhere in Berlin?

I know some girls at Euphorie offers it. Has anyone been there?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1314435]-

I don't mean to be academic-but for our many welcome, helpful non-native English posters and readers, understanding this may be useful.

As we have seen this layout problem with some other gang bang reports, it could be that gang-banging disrupts a normal sense of grammar.[/QUOTE]Yes, you're right, I meant "paragraphs". Thanks for pointing that out. As a non-native english speaker, I don't always know all the right words or terms for everything under the sun, so clarifications like this one are much appreciated, especially when an incorrect term could lead to some confusion or misunderstanding.

And, Jam Jam, I've seen that you've uploaded a report in the Erlebniswohnung thread with a correct layout and seperation of only paragraphs. Much easier and more enjoyable to read.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1314435]Most def on all accounts.

But to clarify, what SL means is don't hit the enter key after each "sentence". Use them only to separate "paragraphs". The word "column" is confusing, as it normally means a vertical space or one of several paragraphs stacked side-by-side. Hence the use of the word in Excel or Word tables, or newspaper columns, or the use in Greek and Roman architecture, as in those massive vertical supports.

I don't mean to be academic-but for our many welcome, helpful non-native English posters and readers, understanding this may be useful.

As we have seen this layout problem with some other gang bang reports, it could be that gang-banging disrupts a normal sense of grammar.[/QUOTE]Ciao RB!

I must say that the way this forum works about this is kind of misleading. I tend to use carriage returns to simply start a new line to separate a paragraph in different blocks. This helps reading and helps to separate different topics. The problem here is that every carriage return generates a line feed and this makes reports long and illegible.

This is a server side preference, not so common around, at least on the boards I usually write on. And this is why most people get trapped in. I think. I agree that probably it's better to avoid too many carriage returns and keep paragraphs very compact, but I dislike this kind of editorial imposition. For example, If one wanted to write a list of girl names, one per line, for any reason, every name would be separated by a line feed, that's stupid IMO.

Here is an example:

Nina 7.

Brigitte 8.

Marketta 8.

Verena 4.

I don't see any workarounds and actually don't care too much to find one so I guess the only right thing to do is walk the line or walk the plank. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1315352]I tend to use carriage returns to simply start a new line to separate a paragraph in different blocks. This helps reading and helps to separate different topics. The problem here is that every carriage return generates a line feed and this makes reports long and illegible.[/QUOTE]2600 and counting reports, comments and lame jokes and I don't even know what a carriage return is yet I have never had much of a problem. How difficult can it be?

Why not simply preview the report and if it looks like shit, correct it.

In any case if you post the report and then hit edit the old auto edit function that seems to give such trouble is not an issue any more as it only seems to work before the edit.

If that makes any sense.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1315398]2600 and counting reports, comments and lame jokes and I don't even know what a carriage return is yet I have never had much of a problem. How difficult can it be?

Why not simply preview the report and if it looks like shit, correct it.

In any case if you post the report and then hit edit the old auto edit function that seems to give such trouble is not an issue any more as it only seems to work before the edit.

If that makes any sense.

AM[/QUOTE]It does but what I'm saying is that "normally" when you start a new line you just start a new line. What happens here is that when you start a new line a blank line is added. I know it and I usually try to check the preview, others don't and expect that no empty lines are added. At least I think this is what is happening.

Ciao.

Kimino

Hi all,

Sorry about the shitty post. As Kimino mentioned, it seemed ok before sending and I never encountered this before.

It seems I will be here until next week. I'll probably return to Erlebniswohnung this Saturday (I heard somewhere that it may be anal party) , unless anyone has better suggestions. Feel free to meet up there if anyone feels like it.

Does anyone know if or where you can assist a bukkake or gangbang filming (masked) in Berlin and how it works?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jam Jam;1315426]Does anyone know if or where you can assist a bukkake or gangbang filming (masked) in Berlin and how it works?[/QUOTE]There is the GGG "casting" which takes place in Berlin every two months or so, it is very expensive just to watch (250€ or 300€ from memory) but it's free if you participate, you must have a recent HIV test and some form of identification (passport or the like).

Next event is in mid-September.

[url]http://www.berlinintim.de/member/Event/GGG-john-thompson.php[/url]

[QUOTE=Velo Berlin;1315577]There is the GGG "casting" which takes place in Berlin every two months or so, it is very expensive just to watch (250€ or 300€ from memory) but it's free if you participate, you must have a recent HIV test and some form of identification (passport or the like).[/QUOTE]I've been told that the only ones who get to fuck are the regular GGG-studs. Everybody else is only there to add his sperm to the Bukkake. No first hand experience, only hearsay, but why would a guy I meet in Kaiserslautern lie about something happening (or rather not happening) on the other side of the country.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1315398]and I don't even know what a carriage return is

AM[/QUOTE]You and me both!

I just checked on [url]www.leo.org[/url] And it gave me "Schreibkopfrücklauf" and "Zeilenumschaltung" as a translation. I guees the first one relates to the typing head of a type writer returning to the beginning of the line. The 2nd would mean "switching lines". So I guess carriage return means returning the cursor to the beginning of a new line in order to start a new paragraph.

[quote=swingerlover;1315681]i've been told that the only ones who get to fuck are the regular ggg-studs. everybody else is only there to add his sperm to the bukkake. no first hand experience, only hearsay, but why would a guy i meet in kaiserslautern lie about something happening (or rather not happening) on the other side of the country.[/quote]it seems to be able to fuck you have to make a full std test before not only hiv, this costs about 80€ in berlin while the hiv test costs 20€ (you can get an anonymous test for less or even for free but obviously ggg need a dated test with your name on it).

for bukkake and [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord117][CodeWord117][/url] the hiv test is enough.

you even get some money for your cumshots, i've been tempted to go, but director john thompson has a really bad reputation, not a friendly atmosphere to be in for sure, i'm too old to get yelled at and bossed around.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1315683]You and me both!

I just checked on.

[url]www.leo.org[/url]

And it gave me "Schreibkopfrücklauf" and "Zeilenumschaltung" as a translation. I guees the first one relates to the typing head of a type writer returning to the beginning of the line. The 2nd would mean "switching lines". So I guess carriage return means returning the cursor to the beginning of a new line in order to start a new paragraph.[/QUOTE][url]Http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_return[/url]

[QUOTE=Velo Berlin;1315696]You even get some money for your cumshots, I've been tempted to go, but director John Thompson has a really bad reputation, not a friendly atmosphere to be in for sure, I'm too old to get yelled at and bossed around.[/QUOTE]That's the exact same thing I heard about too. And if you don't shoot enough sperm when you come, then that one doesn't count! Of course he's the one who defines "enough". Then you seem to get a 10 Euro voucher IF it was enough and a simple Bratwurst is offered there for 80 Euros, so you would have to come 8 times for one simple snack.

Like before, this is all hearsay, since I've never been there.

Recently did some investigative recon at van Kampen. It is very (VERY) unfortunately slightly more expensive than most of the private flats-about 20 Euro more per 45 min session with some icings on the cake.
Sometimes I am torn between reporting these smaller gems out of concern the notoriety may doom it and make appointments more difficult, but I am duty bound. So...

Stella, some fine German engineering.

Marina (Russian, a little big boned. Not fat at all-just a big woman, but my lordy is she beautiful, one of the prettiest faces I have seen in a long time, and the photos do not do her justice) and

Kitty, a Brasilian / German bombshell who really was just thermonuclear on all levels.

Demand is high for very good reasons, and schedules can be limited and erratic so it is a project to pull off. You must call ahead just to see what the schedule is even if you don't make a booking. I did not make a booking but only had to wait once about 30 min after ringing. All just great, real women, a fine alternative to Artemis's little girls, and no shootings.

[QUOTE=Bers1234; 1315053]Hi!

Has anyone tried a Nuru massage somewhere in Berlin?

I know some girls at Euphorie offers it. Has anyone been there?

Thanks![/QUOTE]Hi there.

I have been there last October. It was the closest one to my Hotel

If I remember corecly the day / time that I went there 4 ladies were present and only two were offering nuru massage

It was a good experience. Maybe worth to give it a try

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1316404]Recently did some investigative recon at van Kampen. It is very (VERY) unfortunately slightly more expensive than most of the private flats-about 20 Euro more per 45 min session with some icings on the cake.[/QUOTE]In the past, if I understood well, Van Kampen proposed a penthouse instead of a room : did anybody try it? Does this offer still exist?

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1316586]In the past, if I understood well, Van Kampen proposed a penthouse instead of a room : did anybody try it? Does this offer still exist?[/QUOTE]Yes-it is upstairs 2nd floor. Not a penthouse per se but 3 very large separate rooms. Much nicer than the downstairs. Been there several times just by asking, though I think you need to do a minimum session of 45 min. KD the same with their upstairs suites. Van kampen is moving around 15 Sept but just around corner, south and west like 100m, just part an Aldi, I believe.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover; 1313400]Okay, let's!

[url]www.fickanzeigen.net/partytermine/index.php?id=1344250302[/url]

Just as a pointer for ToiletMan and other people with the same fetish IN BERLIN for this coming Saturday.[/QUOTE]Oh Shit! (or what the professor said)

On my last visit to Artemis one of the young ladies adopted a 69 position. This is one of my favourites because I can see the peachy arse and all the bits I like to see.

I like it so much that I am sometimes tempted to lick it. But when I think of this I remember an interview on radio with an eminent professor. The discussion was about the bacteriological count on the human skin. Some one asked about the area around the anus. Apparently the bacteriological count (concentration of invisible nasty things) in this area is many tens of times greater than on any other part of the human skin. Remembering this discussion puts me off licking anything, even although the girls are almost always well presented. If it were not so and there was a brown ring present I would be utterly repelled. Possibly most posters on this thread would have similar feelings, but how does one know?

The value of a forum like this is the exhange of information and experience between like minds. How does one know what the like minds think? Where there are contentious matters involved, as has been the case recently. Then pherhaps there should be computer voting.

This should be possible on a computerised forumn.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1316684]Yes-it is upstairs 2nd floor. Not a penthouse per se but 3 very large separate rooms. Much nicer than the downstairs. Been there several times just by asking, though I think you need to do a minimum session of 45 min. KD the same with their upstairs suites. Van kampen is moving around 15 Sept but just around corner, south and west like 100m, just part an Aldi, I believe.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answer RB0.

Do these VK's rooms have an outdoor it's what I understood (or rather misunderstood?) in the past?

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1316887]Thanks for your answer RB0.

Do these VK's rooms have an outdoor it's what I understood (or rather misunderstood?) in the past?[/QUOTE]If this picture is to be believed there is a patio somewhere at VK.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/VK-Panoramen/dachterrasse/DSC09910.jpg[/url]

And that does look like a bed for fucking.

A

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1316894]If this picture is to be believed there is a patio somewhere at VK.

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/VK-Panoramen/dachterrasse/DSC09910.jpg[/url]

And that does look like a bed for fucking.

A[/QUOTE]Thanks Angus, I found this following webpage too :

[url]http://vankampenberlin.de/dachterrasse.html[/url]

Some years ago I was interested in this offer but did not know which VK's lady to choose (lady who can give a lot of complicity to spend hours at this outdoor terrasse)!

I imagine that this terrasse (not a penthouse!) should have an extra cost, did anybody try and so know the conditions of use (even if, for me, it's too late for this year!)

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1316901]should have an extra cost, did anybody try and so know the conditions of use (even if, for me, it's too late for this year!)[/QUOTE]The terrace is connected to 2 of the 3 rooms. I have been up there 3 times in the past 4 weeks, cost nothing extra. I just asked if we could go up, my romantic intentions were likely aided hugely by all the downstairs showers being occupied.

The rooms are much nicer, huge, with huge beds. They have simulated fireplaces, just the thing when it is 30+ outside. From the terrace, you have a superb view of the neighboring Aldi supermarket, and the huge Vattenfall power station near by. Drives the girls wild. Though to be honest, my primary objective involved interior designs of a more organic nature.

All this will change when they move around the corner 15 Sept, though the new digs are supposed to be even nicer.

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1316824]I remember an interview on radio with an eminent professor. The discussion was about the bacteriological count on the human skin. Some one asked about the area around the anus. Apparently the bacteriological count (concentration of invisible nasty things) in this area is many tens of times greater than on any other part of the human skin. Remembering this discussion puts me off licking anything, Possibly most posters on this thread would have similar feelings, but how does one know?

The value of a forum like this is the exhange of information and experience between like minds. How does one know what the like minds think? Where there are contentious matters involved, as has been the case recently. Then pherhaps there should be computer voting. This should be possible on a computerised forumn.[/QUOTE]Well, once again we are off to the races. Surely this belongs in the Lounge or Special Themes areas vs Berlin thread?

And I would say the only way really to get to the bottom of this (yes I meant to) would be via a literary duel to the death between none other than Norjan, the keeper of the cavities, vs the sniffer supremo, the licker of the luscisous and the lethal, Herr Doktor Wanking. They can surely straighten this burning issue out. Anyway, we will look forward to how this plays out, on the other thread.

Why is a piece of toilet paper like the Starship Enterprise? Because both can be found at times, orbiting your anus, looking for cling-ons. But (t) please, beam this up, elsewhere.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1316974]The terrace is connected to 2 of the 3 rooms. I have been up there 3 times in the past 4 weeks, cost nothing extra. I just asked if we could go up, my romantic intentions were likely aided hugely by all the downstairs showers being occupied.

The rooms are much nicer, huge, with huge beds. They have simulated fireplaces, just the thing when it is 30+ outside. From the terrace, you have a superb view of the neighboring Aldi supermarket, and the huge Vattenfall power station near by. Drives the girls wild. Though to be honest, my primary objective involved interior designs of a more organic nature.[/QUOTE]Thanks RB0.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1316974].

All this will change when they move around the corner 15 Sept, though the new digs are supposed to be even nicer.[/QUOTE]So I will have to find out a very nice VK's lady for my next trip to Berlin (probably not before 2013!)

[QUOTE=WarmStone25;1316824]If it were not so and there was a brown ring present I would be utterly repelled. Possibly most posters on this thread would have similar feelings, but how does one know?[/QUOTE]Well not this monger. As I am fond of saying-never mind the potatoes if the soup is good. Or as see it a hooker is no more or less

Sterile than any other girl in any give population, perhaps more so given her occupation. As long as she follows basic hygiene practices we are good to go To put it even more bluntly if her butt hole looks clean and palatable I will go in for a lick, and enjoy it very much, never thinking of invisible bacteria that my be there.

I really think the bacteria thing in general is widely over blown. On any give day you are exposed to untold numbers of bacteria. That is why you have an immune system, to take care of this. It can even be argued that being exposed ultimately strengthens your immune system. Of course there are things out there, things we all know about (STDs) that one does have to take caution with, but even that is arguable as a certain member of the forum seems to delight in telling us.

As far as I am concerned you should rather be careful of what you listen to and swallow whole (MDs who make part of their living giving radio interviews to scare us into compliance) rather than what you lick. But do use common sense. If there is a shit stain, maybe just don't lick it?

AM

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1317244]Well, once again we are off to the races. Surely this belongs in the Lounge or Special Themes areas vs Berlin thread?

And I would say the only way really to get to the bottom of this (yes I meant to) would be via a literary duel to the death between none other than Norjan, the keeper of the cavities, vs the sniffer supremo, the licker of the luscisous and the lethal, Herr Doktor Wanking. They can surely straighten this burning issue out. Anyway, we will look forward to how this plays out, on the other thread.

Why is a piece of toilet paper like the Starship Enterprise? Because both can be found at times, orbiting your anus, looking for cling-ons. But (t) please, beam this up, elsewhere.[/QUOTE]LOL! ROFL!

Honestly, that was propably the second most funny post I have read on this forum at all! Even though it took me 3 thoughts to make the transition from "your anus" to "your"-anus to "Uranus". So if the result of ass-king shit-ty questions and posting crap-py ads in this thread is extremely funny remarks like this, I shit; pardon: should, look for some more bid; excuse: more morbid, ads in Berlin like the one where the woman first wants to get smeared in shit, then hosed down with a garden hose, before getting rubber-fucked.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1317244]And I would say the only way really to get to the bottom of this (yes I meant to) would be via a literary duel to the death between none other than Norjan, the keeper of the cavities, vs the sniffer supremo, the licker of the luscisous and the lethal, Herr Doktor Wanking. They can surely straighten this burning issue out. Anyway, we will look forward to how this plays out, on the other thread.[/QUOTE]Haha. I only saw this now.

I have been licking the female Arsch hole for more than 20 years, and I have licked plenty that smelled of shit, and made them clean with my tongue. To my knowledge I have never become sick from licking the brown hole, and I lick it deep! These days I prefer a woman's anus to smell a little of shit, and I am disappointed if they are completely clean which in German clubs they are often are. Having all that I am NOT into eating shit or skat as such. I became interested in licking the female Arschen hole from the age of around 12 and actually licked my first girls brown poo hole at around 17 I think, so many moons ago lol!!

[QUOTE=WarmStone25; 1316824]Oh Shit! (or what the professor said)

On my last visit to Artemis one of the young ladies adopted a 69 position. This is one of my favourites because I can see the peachy arse and all the bits I like to see.

I like it so much that I am sometimes tempted to lick it. But when I think of this I remember an interview on radio with an eminent professor. The discussion was about the bacteriological count on the human skin. Some one asked about the area around the anus. Apparently the bacteriological count (concentration of invisible nasty things) in this area is many tens of times greater than on any other part of the human skin. Remembering this discussion puts me off licking anything, even although the girls are almost always well presented. If it were not so and there was a brown ring present I would be utterly repelled. Possibly most posters on this thread would have similar feelings, but how does one know?

The value of a forum like this is the exhange of information and experience between like minds. How does one know what the like minds think? Where there are contentious matters involved, as has been the case recently. Then pherhaps there should be computer voting.

This should be possible on a computerised forumn.[/QUOTE]I suggest you simply do a smell test. If there is no odor then she probably washed in the shower and didn't shit since. Go in and lick it.

If it stinks, do not lick.

[QUOTE=Cock Sure; 1318565]I suggest you simply do a smell test. If there is no odor then she probably washed in the shower and didn't shit since. Go in and lick it.

If it stinks, do not lick.[/QUOTE]No no, if it stinks Lick it, if its clean lick it anyway and pretend its smelly!!!

So a couple of weeks ago I went to Kashima. Had booked the short Dhavala (2 hrs) and the bathing ritual over the phone som days before since the website booking did not work. I rang the bell a couple of minutes before time. No one answered. Rang again. Still no answer. Was almost leaving, tried just once more and was eventually buzzed in. Was greeted by the door by Katarzyna who took me to the first room on the left where we talked a bit about my expectations and how the next couple of hours would be spent.

We started with the bathing ritual in the bath tub. I was on my back and she was naked with me in the tub. Most of the time she was sitting between my legs and gently washing and scrubbing my body all over. At one point she was also on the edge of the tub washing my feet and toes. The whole ritual was a highly erotic but not straight forward sexual foreplay to the massage. In some way it was like she was getting to know my body before the massage. After 30 minutes she left me for a short time and I could wash the soapy water off my body before she picked me up again.

Then we proceeded to the room where the massage started with me lying on my back. I actually do not remember many details from the session. The feeling of her hands and the warm oil was amazing. At one point she was also using a piece of thin fabric to create a fantastic sensation on my back that felt like an infinite long piece of air was dragged along my spine. This was during the part where I was lying on my front. I do not really like this position since I never quite can find the comfortable position with my head. But on the other hand it is erotic because it is difficult to see what is going on. For the entire session including the bathing ritual I had closed eyes since I wanted to focus on her touches and not being stimulated visually.

The massage was erotic and sensual all the way through and was never really hard on sexual touches. But the sexual energies in my body were slowly awoken through the combination of her hands on my private parts and primarily on the rest of my body. So when she finally touched my penis more focused I came quite quickly. I was impressed with her hands and technique. The way she touched my penis, I wouldn't even call it strokes. More some sort of highly skilled caressing.

Weird thing was that the feeling of her hands all over my body stayed with me for a long time. But even though my orgasm was really strong and long, the afterwards feeling of great sex never occurred. And so already after an hour or so I was considering taking a short session at Royal or KD. But due to lack of time before my plane left I never went.

Would I go again? Yes. No doubt. Some might say that it is expensive for only one shot. But if you can also enjoy what lies before that shot then I recommend giving Kashima a try.

On the negative side was:

- I got the room closest to the front door and could hear all the people come and go.

- At one point the music in the room changed from being very meditative to more song orientated with some guy singing about walking on a road, finding a pub and getting a drink. That broke the whole atmosphere that had been up to that point.

Hi guys,

Are there any "RLD houses"/brothel houses in Berlin, similar to many other German cities? I've experienced the RLD area in Hanover and I'm basically looking for something similar. (Apartment building with different women on each floor, in their own seperate but small room).

I'm aware of the FKK's and privat apts (and have tried them repeatedly) but I'm just looking for a new experience in Berlin.

Thanks in advance,

Mtech

[QUOTE=MTech;1319692]I'm aware of the FKK's and privat apts (and have tried them repeatedly) but I'm just looking for a new experience in Berlin.[/QUOTE]Well, yes and no. There is a place called Freudenhaus which is set up in this style but it is nowhere near as big as a proper brothel of this nature.

[url]http://www.freudenhaus-hase.de/html/modelle.html[/url]

There is a set of stairs and one or two models on each floor who stand in the doorway (if available) as you go up the stairs. But that is it, there are not that many to chose from. Maybe 6-8 in each of two houses which are across the way from each other in the Hof.

There are a number of reviews here in the thread if you care to look.

AM

[QUOTE=Bobby Cph;1319085]- At one point the music in the room changed from being very meditative to more song orientated with some guy singing about walking on a road, finding a pub and getting a drink. That broke the whole atmosphere that had been up to that point.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the review of your trip to Kashima. I do recognise most of your comments from my own visit since I got the same massage room as you did. It wasn't really a big problem with the noise of people from the street, but I guess there are better rooms there. I really had to laugh when you mentionned the music because I think they do have music in a loop. I believe the song you have in mind was Craig David: Walking Away, although he is not singing about drinking in a pub? I am not sure, but that's the song that didn't really belong there with the rest of the music. Ok everybody knows that it's quite calm music so personally it didn't bother me at all.

[QUOTE=Sucker17;1319879]I really had to laugh when you mentionned the music because I think they do have music in a loop. I believe the song you have in mind was Craig David: Walking Away, although he is not singing about drinking in a pub? I am not sure, but that's the song that didn't really belong there with the rest of the music. Ok everybody knows that it's quite calm music so personally it didn't bother me at all.[/QUOTE]I don't mind about the music being in a loop when the different songs are unknown and difficult to differ from each other like most of the tantric, meditative music. But when I know a song I tend to listen to the lyrics and that really took my mind away from the massage. BTW. I do not think it was Craig David.

At the bordellos (KD, VK, Royal) where do you keep your yor wallet, phone etc during a session?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1320222]At the bordellos (KD, VK, Royal) where do you keep your yor wallet, phone etc during a session?[/QUOTE]Most bordellos hire a gypsy to look after the guest's valuables while you are in the room.

You keep them in the room with your clothes of course. Where else would you put them. I have never had a problem. If you are worries just take enough money for a session.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1320236]Most bordellos hire a gypsy to look after the guest's valuables while you are in the room.

You keep them in the room with your clothes of course. Where else would you put them. I have never had a problem. If you are worries just take enough money for a session.

AM[/QUOTE]I've never been to a bordello, so I don't know how it works.

So, there are always a shower in the room, I mean you don't have to get undressed in one room and shower in an other? And you are never far from your clothes beeing able see them the whole time?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1320244]I've never been to a bordello, so I don't know how it works.

So, there are always a shower in the room, I mean you don't have to get undressed in one room and shower in an other? And you are never far from your clothes beeing able see them the whole time?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Some have showers in the room. Others you trust the the bordello not to hire and keep thieves on staff. I mean how long is a bordello, especially a well known business going to stay in business if customers are ripped off of valuables by the girls? As I say I have left my wallet & phone in the room when I have a shower many, many times and now don't even really consider it. Bi I also take the precaution of not carrying much more than I will need for a session. If that disappears then I would invite them to call the police if they still thought I needed to pay. But the scenario that you seem to fear in really not likely to happen.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1320249]Some have showers in the room. Others you trust the the bordello not to hire and keep thieves on staff. I mean how long is a bordello, especially a well known business going to stay in business if customers are ripped off of valuables by the girls? As I say I have left my wallet & phone in the room when I have a shower many, many times and now don't even really consider it. Bi I also take the precaution of not carrying much more than I will need for a session. If that disappears then I would invite them to call the police if they still thought I needed to pay. But the scenario that you seem to fear in really not likely to happen.

AM[/QUOTE]Ok, sounds fair. Thanks.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1320249]But the scenario that you seem to fear in really not likely to happen.

AM[/QUOTE]True, I've never had any problems. The gypsy guy has always taken good care of my valuables!

I always pay the gypsy guy MORE money than is in my wallet, so he has no incentive to take any of it.

Kidding aside (am I really kidding?) , there are 2 things you can do. The showers are very often in another room, usually the bathroom (shocking ain't it?) and you can bring your pants or shirt or whatever your wallet is in with you so you can easily observe it all the time. When you are in the shower, you lock the door from the inside. Simple. Another trick a tute in Amsterdam told me is to put your wallet inside a shoe where it cannot be seen. Can of course improve upon this system, by also putting a little note over the top of your shoe saying " Don`t look here, there's no money". Google translate will give you the Hoch Deutsch.

Angus is right that all these places deal with it in pretty relaxed fashion, it does not seem to be a problem and word would get out if it was. But I have to admit it has crossed my mind as well, especially in a new place etc. But in the better bordellos, it is not an issue.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1320284]I But I have to admit it has crossed my mind as well, especially in a new place etc. But in the better bordellos, it is not an issue.[/QUOTE]You see, even you, the mighty Rocket have had these doubts.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1320687]You see, even you, the mighty Rocket have had these doubts.

Norjan[/QUOTE]RB has doubts about most things. That is the source of his might. Except, he has doubts about that as well.

[QUOTE=Norjan;1320687]You see, even you, the mighty Rocket have had these doubts.[/QUOTE]It is not so much about doubts, rather about using common sense and managing your fear. Even though I trust the better bordellos not to rip me off I still would think twice about taking hundreds of extra euros in with me and leaving them in the room when I showered. I would either not take the money, hide it well in my bag (where it would take more than a cursory search to find) or figure some way of taking it with me to the shower-a small toilet bag or something unobtrusive.

My philosophy can be summed up thus: trust in God, but tie up your horses.

AM

By RTFF I think I've got the picture of how things are getting done at KD, VK and R.

1. You enter an apartment where you meet a house lady.

2. The house lady takes you to a room where she will show you the available girls.

3. You choose a girl and you tell the house lady how long you want the session to be and then pay her.

4. The girl takes you to a another room (maybe even an other apartment) where you get undressed, place your clothes and other belongings on a chair and then take a shower.

5. Session.

6. You are free to take another shower afterwards.

7. Leave the building.

Have I got it?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan;1321119]Have I got it?[/QUOTE]Thats about it. The only slight change I would make is that even after telling the Hausmutti how long you want, the girl herself will come back, take you to the room, ask how long and then you pay the girl herself. Just to be clear.

AM

[QUOTE=Norjan;1321119]By RTFF I think I've got the picture of how things are getting done at KD, VK and R.Have I got it? Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan- you have now uncovered for all too see the seven habits of highly effective mongerers. Just in all this do not overlook step 5 (the session itself).

Hey guys, Hey Norjan.

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1321119]By RTFF I think I've got the picture of how things are getting done at KD, VK and R.

1. You enter an apartment where you meet a house lady.

2. The house lady takes you to a room where she will show you the available girls.

3. You choose a girl and you tell the house lady how long you want the session to be and then pay her.

4. The girl takes you to a another room (maybe even an other apartment) where you get undressed, place your clothes and other belongings on a chair and then take a shower.

5. Session.

6. You are free to take another shower afterwards.

7. Leave the building.

Have I got it?

Norjan[/QUOTE]I can only talk about KD and Royal, have not been at VK for very long.

3. You will rarely ever discuss with this with the house lady. Sometimes she asks, but usually its all discussed with the girl.

4. At Royal you will often (but not always) stay in the same room. If in doubt ask the girl. This is rare at KD.

7. You will often have to wait for ages until the house lady comes and you leave, especially at Royal. Don't freak out. If you think they have forgotten about you, have a discreet look at the floor, often somebody will come. If nobody is there just leave, did that several times at various places. You should not do that like 5 minutes after you got dressed though, that's impolite. The house lady is always busy with various things.

About the safety / wallet / phone thing: I understand where you're coming from, had that feeling various times in 'new' places, especially in foreign countries, and yes, its generally good to be aware of such things, but in these places, and also other places like Liberty, there's nothing to worry about. Yes, theoretically, particularly a new girl may try to pull a fast one like this, but never has anything like that ever happened to me, and I've been to KD and Royal A LOT of times. It also never happened to me in that environment anywhere else. If in doubt you could actually put your wallet and phone in your robe, but this will hurt your 'street cred' a lot if someone notices. Actually, at Royal you will be often sent to the bathroom with your clothes still on, if you wish to shower. But in any case, the girl will hardly ever wait for you in the room, she is busy other things while you shower (mostly female things, like hair and nails etc.) Unless you shower for like 30mins but that's impolite too.

Actually, if I happen to drop my phone / wallet on accident I would rather have this be at KD than at almost any other place I could think of except home / family / friends. I'the be very optimistic to get it back with everything in it. I'm not quite as sure for places like Royal and Liberty, to explain this would be too long here, but would also still be positive. Generally speaking these are all legal, regulated environments that pride themselves as 'upper class' environments, so you will have little trouble there. There's a much higher chance they will try to rob you in a supermarket or in public transport, where you have lots of people with little or no money and who don't care. Not that it ever happened to me in Berlin though.

After the praise of KD I'll also mention the main downside of this place: It has become pretty useless to go there without an appointment. Selection will be small and you will not get the prime ladies. Other men do also know where the fruits are. On the other hand making appointments with unknowns also has its negatives. It was still ok 2- 3 yrs ago but this year I was there, spontaneously, three times and left ungepoppt twice.

First time: Only two girls available. Betty seemed nice, but not my type, too slim, I like curvy girls. Anja (?). I would've liked the looks but seemed uninterested and cold. So I passed.

Second time: Was better. 4 or 5 girls available. Chose Melina, eastern European origin, but lives in Germany, big enhanced breasts, normally I prefer natural, but there was something sweet about her, and I was right. Very good, very nice girl, very GFE as you say here. 1/2hr session. No DFK though but that's normal of KD girls on a first session. They will often open up though on repeated sessions.

Third time: Even worse. Place was very busy, perhaps not the best time, I believe Friday around 5ish. I was sent to the SM arena for the introduction round, apparently every other place busy. First time I was there in many visits, and and didn't actually need to see that. Also waited for ages for the girls, two showed up. Betty and Paloma (or something like that). Heavily tattooed, not my type. Hausmutti apologized many times when I was about to leave saying there were 11 girls there, just all busy, almost begged me to come back later. I went straight to Royal though, having choices is a good thing.

Generally speaking KD is probably the most 'upper class' of the 'regular' bordellos in Berlin. Very nice, very clean place in a good neighbourhood and the girls who are there are, on average, more intelligent, better educated, older, more self-confident and aware than at pretty much every other place. There are exceptions, of course. Maybe there are some really high class places in Berlin that I don't know about though.

If you look for really exceptionally beautiful young girls, Royal is probably better, though. KD has more like the 'regularly beautiful' type of woman who wants to be independent, take care of her kid or such. You could probably say that KD staff are more 'women' rather than 'girls' at least more so than at other places.

For quality of the 'service' KD is much better though. While at Royal you will usually not be disappointed, the real exceptional sex you get much more at KD. At least that's what I find. I had some of the best sex of my life there. Also some disappointments though, of course.

I'd also have a few things to say about Royal and other places but in another post.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1321265]I'd also have a few things to say about Royal and other places but in another post.[/QUOTE]A very good summing up of the current state of affairs at KD. In fact I always found the KD was a place to make an appointment rather than just showing up. I am not sure if I just chose well but I only ever once really regretted my choice. The pics on the web site are generally accurate so all there is to worry about is chemistry. Even if that is lacking I always found the service to be acceptable.

Thanks for the report Nutron and I look forward to you comments on Royal.

AM

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux; 1321265]Hey guys, Hey Norjan.

I can only talk about KD and Royal, have not been at VK for very long.

3. You will rarely ever discuss with this with the house lady. Sometimes she asks, but usually its all discussed with the girl.

4. At Royal you will often (but not always) stay in the same room. If in doubt ask the girl. This is rare at KD.

7. You will often have to wait for ages until the house lady comes and you leave, especially at Royal. Don't freak out. If you think they have forgotten about you, have a discreet look at the floor, often somebody will come. If nobody is there just leave, did that several times at various places. You should not do that like 5 minutes after you got dressed though, that's impolite. The house lady is always busy with various things.[/QUOTE]Thanks for great useful info.

3. I discuss the length of the session directly with the girl and also prices? (I thought the prices were fixed).

7. I don't really understand. I have to wait for the house lady before I can leave?

Another thing, payment is done before the session, not after, right?

Norjan

[QUOTE=Norjan; 1321603]Thanks for great useful info.

3. I discuss the length of the session directly with the girl and also prices? (I thought the prices were fixed).

7. I don't really understand. I have to wait for the house lady before I can leave?

Another thing, payment is done before the session, not after, right?

Norjan[/QUOTE]Norjan you over think things. Really it is just like Artemis only you don't meet the girls in a bar / kino / staircase, you sit in a room and they come in one by one then you make your choice.

Like at Artemis the prices are set but you have to decide on things like length of stay & extras. This you discuss with the girl.

Leaving you will generally wait in the room after showering and dressing so that the Hausmutti (generally-sometimes as in Liberty the girl will let you out) can direct traffic and prevent customers from running into each other on the way out or to the shower.

My suggestion at this point is to just go for it and go with the flow whatever might happen that is slightly different from your idea of how things should be. Also know as the "fun" in life.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1321620]. You sit in a room and they come in one by one then you make your choice.

AM[/QUOTE]Sounds relly Ok to me.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1321620]. You sit in a room and they come in one by one then you make your choice.

AM[/QUOTE]Sounds really Ok to me.

Norjan

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1321620]Norjan you over think things. Really . just go for it and go with the flow whatever might happen that is slightly different from your idea of how things should be. Also know as the "fun" in life.AM[/QUOTE]Never have so many

Explained so much.

To so few.

For so little.

God I wish we could make a video of the Norjan bordell tour, but I know you are a shy lad. But if you change you mind on this, let us know as we could really make an academy award winning Dick-you-mentary, the first ISG / Gypsy Boys production. Pre entry interviews, the choice of bordell, the approach, then the post session debrief. Theory vs practice. It would be a fucking classic.

You asked for it. Here's my take on Royal.

This is actually a difficult post a bit because while a have been there many times I'm still not sure where to put it in a few aspects. They claim to be 'different than others' and they are correct, though I believe not necessarily always in the way they would like. Most generally, as many of you know, it is 'high class' daytime brothel that delivers on many of their promises. It is an expensive place, about the same level of KD, but with pretty much every girl offering various extras, some of them expensive too, your costs can easily reach significant levels. You get something in return though. Beautiful ladies offering their services, many of them locals, many of them very young, but still knowing how to please. Maybe I am forgetting something but I can actually not recall ever having had really bad session there. But the highlights are also a bit missing, not that I didn't have good times there, but that's how it is. Maybe I'm just too spoilt of other great places. But in all of these other great places (one is KD in Berlin) I also always had at least one or two terrible rounds, doesn't really seem to happen there. This 'levelling', maybe just coincidence, but that's one thing where I think they are 'different'.

What is also a bit strange, that's my feeling at least, at Royal, again quite in contrast to other places, you don't really get to know much about this place when you're there. When you are at a place often, I find that usually you get quite a bit of insight because, you know, people are talkative, and that does not only apply to girls. And sometimes unplanned things happen and so on. Very little of that at Royal.

That leads me to the girls. Sometimes I wonder where they get their girls from. Reason being, first, at Royal, you have really stunning girls there but, second, Royal does also have a very high turnover rate. They usually have a big lineup, often 10 girls or more show up in the parade. But it is not uncommon at Royal if you show up maybe two or three weeks later you do not recognize any single face. Normally, that is not a good sign, maybe not uncommon for lower end places, but at these venues you usually always have regulars, girls who have been there for years. Just look at KD and Liberty. Not at Royal. But they still manage to get very good lineups and good service and, as experienced mongers know, that is a lot more difficult with new and young girls. So I don't have clue what their supply routes are, but they are distinctively different from any other place in town, that's for sure.

A bit of history: I first went there maybe 5 yrs ago, I first thought, ok, but nothing special, I wasn't too impressed about the girls back then, it's actually much better now. It was an ok place where I went sometimes, not too often. But things declined somewhat over time. Three main points. First, the girls were still pretty but at some point. 80-90% of them had implants, and, second, while they were no rip-off they had quite a bit of arrogant attitude, not just the girls actually, the whole place. There was an all around 'you are so blessed that you can come to us' attitude. I still remember the Hausmutti at one time, it will probably be lost in description and translation, it was just funny and telling at the same time from the way how she said it. I went in with my usual line 'just want to have a look who's there' and she turned to me like I was a little child, chest up, smiled and said 'There are six girls here, and, you know, not exactly the worst ones'. Probably impossible to describe correctly, but was so telling how that place was. They thought of themselves as being the 'Royal' palace. I can personally not attest to that but at that time some mongers were also saying in a German forum that there were quite some '***** wars' between the girls and also complained about Royal being very strict concerning the time and sometimes counting showering or other 'dead time' towards the session. I didn't find that though. But the thing that really put me off this place was they started charging for ridiculous extras like body kisses. They had a price list where it was all properly listed (seems to be gone now). Not that I care too much for body kisses, but that's just a joke. That's when I really thought to myself, ok, maybe without me.

So I was absent, for over two years (although I had long general mongering absence within that time). But gave it another shot early this year and things seem to have improved quite a bit, a wide variety of girls including real stunners, little silicone, no ridiculous extras, friendly house ladies (although I still like other places more in that respect). But the place still seems to have a 'funky twist'. For explanation, see below.

As I did on the other post, here are my last three visits to Royal. Never any problems like I mentioned for KD, always hard to select among so many beauties.

First session: Not entirely sure, but I think the name was Anna. Polish, but lives nearby, peroxide blonde, tall and slim, natural B cup, very pretty face, maybe in the range 22-25 yrs. ½ hr with BBBJ, overall good session, just at one point she stopped during the BJ and going on saying something in bad German, I didn't fully understand but she was claiming that there was something weird about my dick. After a while, she said 'Egal' and continued. WTF? (For the record there is nothing weird about it, and at no time has any other woman ever noticed, I'm not going into more details). She also made some weird comment that I could lick her, since she was 'a virgin'. She probably meant for the day, but this decision depends on other factors as well. Overall I must say from the whole conversation, to put it mildly, that she is maybe not to become a rocket scientist, but despite that we got on well, she's a fun girl. Not really GFE or PSE but it's fun with her. Would repeat.

Second session: Won't call out the name, you'll see why. German local girl, like many at Royal. 1/2hr with DFK and maybe BBBJ, can't remember. Just shortly, good GFE session, she was very nice and very kind throughout. But. She was noticeably slow and somewhat absent with everything throughout our time together. I'm not the type who has any illusions about that and have a tiny little bit of experience myself (long ago). She was on prescription drugs or 'the real thing', if you know what I mean.

Third session: Very strong lineup, I remember dark haired Angelina, and also a very beautiful black girl and two or three others I wouldn't have minded, but I went for the 'special girl'. German 'punk girl' Anja. Certainly into this stuff, if she's still around, you'll immediately notice. Multicolored very long hair, very young, probably teen, pretty face, but not classically the most beautiful one, certainly not in this lineup, a bit on the chubby side. Arranged 1/2hr with DFK then she suddenly left, saying she was new and didn't know the rates. After that overall very good GFE session. Actually very good CBJ, very soft, very good intense DFK, DATY, good fucking. But. When she was sitting on me I noticed that on one arm, she had really bad wounds, in a kind of regular 'tic-tac-toe like' shape, that looked like from a razor blade. Looked really scary. I managed to forget about it during the session and asked her quite soon after. She was laughing and said she was fighting with a grizzly bear. Yeah, and I'm Buffalo Bill.

Went on to get a really bad massage, she's probably never done that. Afterwards, conversation came to her wounds again, she asked 'are you a doctor because you're so worried? ' I said, I'm not but I know a few things, or something like that, can't remember exactly. And right after. She covered herself in the linen and ran away. Left all her clothes and shoes behind, they were still there when I left.

In retrospect: I was probably her first customer ever. No premiere for me but that was certainly unique. The wounds: Probably not to worry about, I remember when I was a teenager, while I was never much into it, I knew girls from my small home town, who were into the punk or dark wave scene, who also liked to do that. 'Self-inflicted wounds', not going into a discussion here. But when you are in this environment, as a monger, where you know violence is going on behind the scenes, sometimes at least, that is not actually what you want to see, might have freaked me out a little.

Do you see what I mean with 'funky twist'? But maybe I just have a funky selection of partners and certainly don't want to decry the place here. And stories like that also happen at every other place, and can be fun, it was just a bit pronounced at Royal recently. I could tell more stories. But as I've said it's an overall very recommendable place and I feel if you are in Berlin often and are into mongering it is definitely a 'must visit' place.

What is also a bit weird about Royal is their parties, that they frequently announce, see the current example:

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/berlin-bordell/sexy-lounge-party-im-bordell-bundesplatz-8.html[/url]

I've never been to any of these, but they sound weird. 'You're lounging like in a Paris brothel of the 19th century', hmm ok, how's that supposed to be? Like an FKK with clothes on, and available girls? Ok, could be worse, but I don't really see the point. And there were more parties like this in the past. But maybe I'm just an ignorant and they're excellent. Has anyone ever been to these?

That's it, thanks for reading, hope you got some info, would like to here your opinions. If there is interest I could do another one on Liberty sometime.

I like women from Turkey.

In FKK clubs I often go for women from Turkey.

Neukölln in Berlin is now very popular to hang. Everything is cheaper there and it's full of Turks.

Does anyone have experience with the Turkish girls there?

Are there any good brothels, massage studios or sex club in this area?

I am very interested in getting an overview of this area.

Thank you in advance.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1320236]Most bordellos hire a gypsy to look after the guest's valuables while you are in the room.
AM[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Sucker]True, I've never had any problems. The gypsy guy has always taken good care of my valuables![/QUOTE]Same here.

Last time I visited KD and left my wallet with the gypsy kid, there was more money in it when I left than when I arrived!

Can't say better than that...

[QUOTE=Dick1; 1322548]I like women from Turkey.

In FKK clubs I often go for women from Turkey.

Neukölln in Berlin is now very popular to hang. Everything is cheaper there and it's full of Turks.

Does anyone have experience with the Turkish girls there?

Are there any good brothels, massage studios or sex club in this area?

I am very interested in getting an overview of this area.

Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]There are certainly a fair number of small bordellos in Neuköln though they tend to be a bit down market with a decidedly lower quality of girls and service. Not that you can not find a gem, but you do have to search for it. Also I can not really say that you will find a whole lot of Turkish girls working there. You will find the usual nationalities (Ro, Bul) and all manner of girls calling themselves Portugese, Spanish and any other nationality that girls call themselves. In fact I think you may be less likely to find a true Turkish girl in these places as they are in a predominantly Turkish area and girls usually go somewhere else to work. Less chance of running into someone who knows them.

You can check this map for the various places though in Neuköln.

[url]http://yapis.eu/?id=9&feature=nightclub[/url], massage, brothel&lat=52. 5&lon=13. 4&zoom=12.

AM

Hi All.

Some interesting discussions recently about bordelles, Royal in particular. Royal seems to have got the thumbs-up from most posters, and rightly so. It's a high-class place, the girls are largely beautiful and service is top-notch. Royal and Monrouge are the two most reliable bordelles in town in my experience.

A word though about pricing, and the concept of 'fixed-rate'. Although most / all bordelles advertise a house tariff, in practice it's not so. Different girls charge different rates. Perhaps it shouldn't be like that, but it is. My evidence derives from a number of joint visits I've made with Kimino to both Royal and Monrouge. On several occasions Kimino and I have turned up together, picked a girl apiece, met up afterwards to compare notes and found that we have been charged slightly different rates, especially when it comes to extras.

I think that the girls in the top bordelles are permitted a certain degree of discretion when it comes to charging policy. At Artemis, in contrast, I have never encountered any variation from the house tariff.

C

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1323152]Hi All.

Some interesting discussions recently about bordelles, Royal in particular. Royal seems to have got the thumbs-up from most posters, and rightly so. It's a high-class place, the girls are largely beautiful and service is top-notch. Royal and Monrouge are the two most reliable bordelles in town in my experience.

C[/QUOTE]I will not disagree with you about the reliability of Royal. It's been a long while since I visited, but I was usually impressed with the operation. However, on my last few visits there I was surprised to find an unusual variance in the prices of "extras". It used to be quite standard, but suddenly different girls charged very differently for the same extras. Going in with an expectation of xxx euros for my "normal menu" only to be met with a demand for 30-40-50 euros more, threw me off a couple of times. And the situation is not really suited for haggling. .

But hey, the girls can of course charge what they like. I guess they find out quite fast what the punters will accept.

I have one question about the current talent at Royal, that I hope some regulars can answer. There is a very different line-up on the german page

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin.html[/url]

Versus the english site:

[url]http://www.brothel-berlin.to/german-brothels-berlin.html[/url]

). I see on the english site several of the girls that I remember from way back, such as Violetta and Jette, that have not been on the german site for a while. Does anyone know if these girls are still to be found at Royal, or more generally: if the english site is outdated when it comes to the talent present these days?

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1323152]Hi All.

Some interesting discussions recently about bordelles, Royal in particular. Royal seems to have got the thumbs-up from most posters, and rightly so. It's a high-class place, the girls are largely beautiful and service is top-notch. Royal and Monrouge are the two most reliable bordelles in town in my experience.

A word though about pricing, and the concept of 'fixed-rate'. Although most / all bordelles advertise a house tariff, in practice it's not so. Different girls charge different rates. Perhaps it shouldn't be like that, but it is. My evidence derives from a number of joint visits I've made with Kimino to both Royal and Monrouge. On several occasions Kimino and I have turned up together, picked a girl apiece, met up afterwards to compare notes and found that we have been charged slightly different rates, especially when it comes to extras.[/QUOTE]Yeah, maybe, but I think that applies more to out of the ordinary extras like anal, role play or SM stuff. I didn't mention prices in my post below, but with me this year at least BBBJ and kissing were always exactly 20 each, just as in Liberty.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 929371]And as I say, if you have that adventurous spirit you may as well go to the source.

I look forward to you posts and will keep an eye on the Warsaw & other Polish threads.[/QUOTE]Sorry for the long delayed reply. I ended up having to cancel that trip and ended up going to Frankfurt instead some months later before hopping the train for Prague. As you probably could have predicted, a night at Oase in Frankfurt was fabulous, and I also enjoyed Prague but not quite as much. Prague could not really match the erotically charged atmosphere of a good German FKK (must confess I've only been to two so far. Sylt and Oase). I went to a number of Prague clubs, including the well-known megacomplex with seemingly endless corridors of girls, and somehow wished I'd stayed in Frankfurt. Part of it was that each club in Prague had maybe 3 girls I really would have been into, and the clubs were very widely disbursed around the area and required numerous taxi rides to get to. Also the Prague club scene was very North American high-school prom-ish, with all the girls hanging together and no real mingling unless you went up to ask for the pop. An FKK is much more like a bar scene from my adolescent memories, with hot half-naked girls flirting, mingling, and circulating.

I'm planning another European trip next month, having posted some queries and received very helpful replies more recently, and it looks like I will hit Berlin. Yes, the NRW seems enticing. However after Prague I'm not sure I want to spend my next trip traipsing around the hinterland in search of cheap pussy. This could be fun under the right circumstances, but when I'm flying in from NA and flying out a few days later I just don't feel up to the driving and the cost of a car rental and / or taxi rides soon erodes any economies offered by the local service.

When it comes down to it, Berlin offers Erlebniswohnung, Caligula, King George, Insomnia, Artemis, KD, Van Kampen, etc. All within a short subway U-Bahn ride (or a taxi ride that's a lot cheaper than downtown Frankfurt to Oase). For a jet-lagged North American, this is a real plus. Both in terms of time and transport expense. The funny thing is, I come from the city that is probably *the* North American capitol for punting (as you guys call it). Those who know NA will know where I mean. However I'm just looking for something different and the prices in DE challenge my best hometown bargains so I'm saving my pennies.

Anyhow just a quick note to say thanks for the feedback, and this time I will post some reports. I also still intend to make a trip to Poland in 2013 to explore those waters.

All the best,

E

[QUOTE=Ravein2; 1323718]I have one question about the current talent at Royal, that I hope some regulars can answer. There is a very different line-up on the german page.

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin.html[/url]

Versus the english site:

[url]http://www.brothel-berlin.to/german-brothels-berlin.html[/url]

I see on the english site several of the girls that I remember from way back, such as Violetta and Jette, that have not been on the german site for a while. Does anyone know if these girls are still to be found at Royal, or more generally: if the english site is outdated when it comes to the talent present these days?[/QUOTE]I would guess that the German website is somwehat more up to date, however, I have generally found Royal to be a place where the web is quite useless for infos about the line-up. As I've already mentioned the fluctuation at Royal is wild, and they don't seem to make too much effort to keep up online.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1323752]Yeah, maybe, but I think that applies more to out of the ordinary extras like anal, role play or SM stuff. I didn't mention prices in my post below, but with me this year at least BBBJ and kissing were always exactly 20 each, just as in Liberty.[/QUOTE]Ciao Neutron Flux.

I confirm what Charlie was saying. Don't have exact records but It must have been about kissing and similar stuff. Never had anal in Royal and was never asked for an extra for BBBJ anywhere (including Liberty). This only happened once in Monrouge, on my last visit.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Ravein2; 1323718]II have one question about the current talent at Royal, that I hope some regulars can answer. There is a very different line-up on the german page.

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin.html[/url]

Versus the english site:

[url]http://www.brothel-berlin.to/german-brothels-berlin.html[/url]

). I see on the english site several of the girls that I remember from way back, such as Violetta and Jette, that have not been on the german site for a while. Does anyone know if these girls are still to be found at Royal, or more generally: if the english site is outdated when it comes to the talent present these days?[/QUOTE]This is actually very common for the English side of a German bordello website to be different and out of date. I do not think there is much meaning in it other than the bordellos do not pay as much attention to the English site. The girls you see who have been gone for a while are most likely not working any more.

As for different prices for different punters-I guess it is so as K & C123 are diligent and accurate reporters. But I myself have never had the sense that I was being charged more than the going rate. It helps, I think, to have a pretty good idea what things are worth before going in. Some places (Liberty) have a very clear menu with prices for most extras listed there. I am guessing that the differing extra costs are found in places like Royal & VK that only seem to list the session time costs.

Finally, I have to agree that Royal is a pretty unique line up and is the one place that I found it better not to chose off the web site. I can remember several excellent sessions with girl who never appeared on the web page and who I had the real impression that they were genuine part timers, students picking up extra cash. Nice session but doubly so because I knew that they would, could, never be repeated and were thus twice as sweet.

AM

Made an appointment in the evening, but when I showed up, the girl wasn't there.

I wouldn't go back. It's an inexpensive place, but unfortunately most of the girls are aging now. And if you show up without an appointment, you generally don't get a choice.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1323752]Yeah, maybe, but I think that applies more to out of the ordinary extras like anal, role play or SM stuff. I didn't mention prices in my post below, but with me this year at least BBBJ and kissing were always exactly 20 each, just as in Liberty.[/QUOTE]Based on my (few) experiences in Royal :

I visited Royal (only) three times.

I always rang at the left door but at the last time, the (right) door was opened behind me!

At this last time I didn't choose any lady after the parade : I saw that that the receptionist's (probably half white, half black; by the way, can the English / American natives confirm me that the word "mulatto" is used only with racist meaning?) face was. .. not "neutral" at all!

Extras I had to pay for French kisses were 20 Euros at Royal and 10 Euros at Monrouge : the best "paid French kisses" were provided by Monrouge's Sybel.

At Royal, apparently there isn't any schedule for the current week : even on the phone, the person who answered me could not tell me who would work on the following day.

Does anyone have experience or comments on Kamala Massage from KD. IS their massage is similar to massage places (harmonie etc). Girls offering massages are the same as on the bordello side.

Thank you Angus,

My last 3 times to Artemis I have been disappointed. Previously I believed that this is the best fkk club in Germany. But not anymore. There are many beautiful girls in other fkk clubs in germany who want to work here, but they're not allowed. It is thus a strange control who gets and who do not get work here. Primarily for economic reasons where pimps control and distribute their girls.

Am I the only one to think there is fewer pretty girls here?

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1322718]There are certainly a fair number of small bordellos in Neuköln though they tend to be a bit down market with a decidedly lower quality of girls and service. Not that you can not find a gem, but you do have to search for it. Also I can not really say that you will find a whole lot of Turkish girls working there. You will find the usual nationalities (Ro, Bul) and all manner of girls calling themselves Portugese, Spanish and any other nationality that girls call themselves. In fact I think you may be less likely to find a true Turkish girl in these places as they are in a predominantly Turkish area and girls usually go somewhere else to work. Less chance of running into someone who knows them.

You can check this map for the various places though in Neuköln.

[url]http://yapis.eu/?id=9&feature=nightclub[/url]

, massage, brothel&lat=52. 5&lon=13. 4&zoom=12.

AM[/QUOTE]

Was at Artemis about 6 weeks ago. Line-up was so lala, nothing to write home about. And no reason to leave Hessen, line-up at Hessen clubs is (IMHO) better than at Artemis.

HB

[QUOTE=Hessen Bub; 1327675]Was at Artemis about 6 weeks ago. Line-up was so lala, nothing to write home about. And no reason to leave Hessen, line-up at Hessen clubs is (IMHO) better than at Artemis.

HB[/QUOTE]This whole topic has been discussed and pretty much beaten to death over on the Art thread. I see no reason to start up here on the same vein.

AM

I do not agree Angus. It is one thing to discuss, but do you think I will only discuss here on the forum so you are wrong. I want change and want to tell management that controls Artemis that they have to open up for more hot girls from outside. If they want to be on top so they must work for it. I encourage all of you to mention this to the receptionist in the first place.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1327685]This whole topic has been discussed and pretty much beaten to death over on the Art thread. I see no reason to start up here on the same vein.

AM[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Dick1;1327873]I do not agree Angus. It is one thing to discuss, but do you think I will only discuss here on the forum so you are wrong. I want change and want to tell management that controls Artemis that they have to open up for more hot girls from outside. If they want to be on top so they must work for it. I encourage all of you to mention this to the receptionist in the first place.[/QUOTE]
First to Hessen Bob-6 weeks ago was in the middle of summer when the line-ups in mostly indoor clubs is naturally weaker, as the hotties are on holidays. It is noticably better now - and I say this as one often critical of the Love Bahnhoff.

Then, Dick1- beyond the obvious personal taste issue, your idea that management has to "open up for more hot, outside girls" rests upon several assumptions that do not really make sense (like what-they are turning them away now, to deliberately keep the selection weak?) You have to understand the business model and whom it attracts (both mongers and maidens), and just the ebb and flow of personel throughout German FKKs. Artemis is what it is, a large bordello geared mostly for tourists that is based upon throughput and mongers who generally like doing 2-5 girls, and girls who are doing 10+ mongers, per day. I can also assure you, from a number of talks, that the better girls at Artemis also see a change and are not at all thrilled with the mongers that are being attracted. They far prefer their steady clients, who will go for longer sessions.

To at least link all this to the Berlin ISG thread, I continue to believe if you just want quality sexual encounters with hotter women, the quieter private bordellos are the way, here in Berlin. I have had some recent pleasant sessions at Artemis, better than in a while. But I have had some spectacular sessions in the private flats. They are quieter and you can simply get more in contact on all levels with IMHO better choices who are not in it for the mass churn. It is much more work to get it right and organize. It can be hit and miss, you have a few seconds to decide, it can be (though not always) slightly more costly for a single session, comparing apples to apples. You cannot hang out before and after to relax, eat, sauna (and soon more swimming and jacuzzying), and just watch the entertaining scene. You just have to decide what you want. Each business model attracts a different sort of girl, in general (though even at Artemis there are a few nice exceptions of course).

But if we must continue, let us at least move this to the Artemis forum where it belongs, and where "management" might have a chance to read it.

Hi there,

Does anyone have experiences with the bar "Möchtegern" in Leibnizstrasse?

What's going on there?

Hi Guys.

How much for half and 1 hour?

Credit cards accepted for all in this club?

Thanks

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1329274]Hi Guys.

How much for half and 1 hour?

Credit cards accepted for all in this club?

Thanks[/QUOTE]Last time I was there with Dea, the rate for 1Hr was 150E. Some girls ask extra for BBBJ (around 40E).

I usually pay cash to the girl but I'm sure one can pay also with CC.

HTH.

Ciao

[QUOTE=Jerrylee; 1328949]Hi there,

Does anyone have experiences with the bar "Möchtegern" in Leibnizstrasse?

What's going on there?[/QUOTE]Never heard of this place. Looks more like a swingers club than a bordello.

[url]http://titan-sr.de/moechtegern/index.html[/url]

Why don't you check it out and report back. Only €25 to get in during the week.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino;1329280]I usually pay cash to the girl but I'm sure one can pay also with CC.[/QUOTE]While some places might accept cc's it is always better to pay cash. They are likely to hit you with a service fee. Let's face it, this is Europe where credit cards are not king and it is very much a cash business we are talking about. Plus I can not imagine most guys wants such a paper trail. Just my opinion.

AM

[QUOTE=Naykan; 1329274]Hi Guys.

How much for half and 1 hour?[/QUOTE]Before 21:00 (09:00 PM) : 150 Euros / hour.

After 21:00 (09:PM) : 160 Euros / hour

Been to Berlin again some weeks ago and met a nice lady via the portal [url]http://www.kaufmich.com[/url]

Her profile ist Mautzdevot and she is very beautiful, with a rubens body (I was always curious about it!). The act itself was very playful with almost no limits! BBBJ, DATY, almost fisting, Anal, some smoking in between and she is getting very very wet and squirted several times!

Be good when meeting her, as she is very GFE and hopefully will stay. I'll definitely meet her again, even if I usually prefer the not so big ladies.

Day 3 of 7 in Germany (see Frankfurt posts for days 1 – 2 and Koln for days 7 and 8 posts.)

Berlin: In my opinion the best quality sex you can get while mongering in Berlin is in the many brothels that are active there. For between 50E ($70) and 80E ($110) you can get the pick of some very beautiful and sexy girls from all over the world (including Germany). They will spend time with you, talk to you and make you feel somewhat like a boyfriend. Examples are Kamilla-Dee, Liberty, Tompson, and Royal. The other fabulous experience and with similar beautiful and sexy girls is to go to the FKK Artemis. The girls there are beautiful and walk around completely naked. Imagine 60 first-rate, sexy girls sitting there or walking around and each trying to catch your eye so that they can get laid. The cost is 80E to get into Artemis and 60 E for each girl you take for ½ hour. You have to be careful about upselling to an hour which costs an additional 60E or for other services such as CIM or anal which usually costs the same 60E additional. However if you really want to explore the relationship with a girl or have various fetishes, perhaps an hour is not too bad. After all. 120E is only about $160. Try doing that in the US! Compared to brothels, the girls in FKKs in my opinion and based on my recent experience, are not as attentive to you (there are exceptions) as they are in the brothels. They are often more interested in getting back to the public areas to get another guy. But if you have never tried an FKK, you HAVE TO. It is unbelievable.

Another way to enjoy Berlin is to go to Kinos, flat-rate brothels and Gang Bangs. This is a much cheaper way to get a lot of sex for only a few dollars. Also, it is an unbelievable experience.

There are two flat-rate brothels King George and Caligula. I recommend that you try King George. [url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/[/url] The girls are nice and attentive. In King George for 99E you can fuck as many girls you can, as long as you can, and the alcoholic beverages are free. The girls are not all beautiful, but they are quite fuckable. The girls in King Geprge range from 5s to 8s and will treat you well. The sessions are all covered. Sometimes they will try to get a fee from you for BBBJ, CIM or kissing. I have always refused. Kissing is sometimes given by the girls as part of the trip to the room. You often have to be somewhat forward and talk to the girl. She may ask you about going to the room. If not, you can ask. They have never said 'no' to me. You can go more than one time with any of the girls. Caligula is also an 'all you can do' club, but I have only heard bad reports about it.

Gang Bangs are unbelievable. You have to try them if you are in Berlin. Again, you can get much sex for little money. The ones I tried are Erlebniswohnung [url]http://www.erlebniswohnung.com/de/[/url], Anni Porsche [url]http://www.anni-porsche.de/[/url], and King George [url]http://www.bordell-grunewaldstrasse23.de/[/url] (the latter only on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. It is a fantastic experience that you have to try at least once. The downside is that you do not always get the same quality of girl as in the brothels or Artemis, and the sex is usually quite mechanical (but not always). In a Gang Bang it is fantastic to see two girls on a large bed being fucked by two guys, possibly with the girl giving a hand job to a third guy. When he is done, there are often 1 to 5 guys ready to take his place. You sometimes have to be pushy to get your turn, but it is WILD. Sometimes there are not many guys and you can screw any of several willing women as long as you want and without competition from others. The girls are GENERALLY quite pretty and sexy, not 'bad or marginal' like the kinos, but not quite as friendly as in Brothels and FKKs. BJs are all bareback as in the FKKs and brothels. The girls are all quite fuckable.

There are a large number of kinos in Berlin. In the kinos you get full service (FS-covered) from 30 to 50 year-old women for 30E plus 5E entrance fee. Kinos are very interesting. You should try them just for the experience. A girl will take you to your seat and ask if you want a drink. Soft drinks and coffee are free and beer costs several dollars. You have to be careful and not necessarily take the first girl / woman who approaches you in the theater. If she is too old or too fat you just say you want to watch the movie. She will persist for a while, but will eventually go away. Another girl will take her place in about 2-5 minutes. BJs are about 15E and FS is 30E. All sex is covered and you can usually go into a private room. Sometimes it is interesting to do it in the theatre. This too is a great experience but the quality of the sex either in the theater of the room is not the same as in gang-bangs, brothels or FKKs. Examples of kinos are Erotikkino 26 at Dominicusstr 26 [url]http://www.erotikkino26.de/home.html[/url], Elisas Kino, [url]http://www.elisassexkino.de[/url] And Kino 30 at Braunschweiger Str. 30. There are many, many kinos in Berlin. Of the three I recommend Elisassexkino.

The following are details of encounters I had in Berlin:

Day 1 in Berlin.

Liberty Brothel. There was a very nice line up of 5 girls. I chose to go with Lela, Cuban but living in Germany for a long time. She was a tall, slender caucasian and had nice lovely natural boobs – probably C's or D's, but low density. 60E for 1/2 hour. DATY but no BBBJ. She offered kissing for an additional 20 and BBBJ for another 20 and I declined. It is not worth it. Otherwise, she was quite friendly and we had a great session. She spoke Spanish and good German combined.

Went to King George.

1. Natalia, from Romania. Young and with a beautiful body / tits. Good dancer who performed for me and approached me in a very sexy way. In the room she tried upsell for a piccolo (25E) or extras. I refused all and she looked so sad, but I did not relent. Sex was ok and we both faked orgasms.

2. Laura – sort of overweight but pleasant. She was Romanian also but preferred Spanish or English. No kissing or pussy touching.

3. Laura, From Bulgaria. Short girl with a long blond braid. Very friendly and cute but did not kiss. Slightly overweight but very young (but who am I to complain)? I offered a 20E tip for BBBJ and DATY. She said ok but I found out later that DATY is part of the package and should not have resulted in additional charges. The BBBJ was nice but not worth 20E. The DATY was worth it however. She slowly warmed up to the DATY and finally had a wild orgasm. I then fucked her missionary position. She was really getting into it and reached down to rub her clit. Then she again came hard. Doing that was a first for me. In general there was no friendly or romantic touching as with all of them at KG. The '30 minute romance' is better at FKKs or brothels.

4. Valeria Backrub. From Dominican Republic. Short and somewhat overweight but with a very nice demeanor and smile. Very nice backrub then the time was up. I continued with her later.

5. Sheila or Chela – Romania Tall, slim and pretty but a little older (30?) and with a great body. No smiles. She seemed to be avoiding me and all others (however there were no others). Finally I went up to her and caressed her arms and legs. There was no response. Natalia said she should go to the room with me. After some political discussion of Hitler and Obama, I continued to stroke her and she agreed to go to the room. There we stripped most of the way down. Her toes were hurting from the high heeled shoes. I then caressed and massaged her toes and feet. This went on for a long time and she really enjoyed it. Finally we stripped and lay down. She kept her bra on her beautiful C / D breasts and only let me touch them a little on the outside. She lay back and I gave her a very nice and long DATY. She seemed to really like it but did not have an obvious orgasm. I mounted her missionary style and had a great fuck. I almost came but avoided it barely. She appeared to be very sad and unhappy, and in fact, was.

6. Again- Valeria. We danced in the main room and she put on some very sexy moves. We moved to the room again and stripped. We caressed a little. For 5E extra she did a BBBJ. She did not let me suck her D or DD breasts but I could fondle them. I did not try for a DATY. We had a very nice missionary position fuck. Again as with all others, she was friendly but allowed no really romantic or intimate moves.

I left after talking to Chela again, about wanting to smile or do something else that would make her happy. She said that it was difficult to smile because she was very sad. She had 2 kids ages 8 and 12. I wished her luck.

Monday (Day 2 in Berlin)

Went to Anni Porsche for the 11:00 AM to 5:00 PM Gang Bang. Wow! There were three girls initially, Pam, and Sylvia. Pam was the best. Saw her early and did DATY followed by great sex and a 'romantic' atmosphere. In the 2nd group of girls that arrived later, Dana, , and. Dana was the best. The same was true of her. Both of these girls had an orgasm with my oral. I did oral on the other THREE girls and they enjoyed it but did not come. I was bored for quite a while until I realized that I had to get 'pushy' to get my turn with the girls. I was there for about 5 hours for a total of about 5 fucks.

Went to EroticKino 26 later in the afternoon. After rejecting a very fat lady I went for 30E with an attractive (but older 45) Polish lady with huge fake boobs. Agnes was nice and the fuck was friendly.

Then went to Erotickino Eliasis and went with a small and slim Bulgarian girl (Gala) with nice B boobs. Friendly but not with a very cute face. Nice fuck but no significant foreplay. 30 Euros plus 8 for the entrance. Bordellos are worth the extra 12 to 22 Euros that they cost.

Finally, I went to KD and saw a line-up with 3 girls. I chose Betty a pretty, slim German girl from south Bavaria since she seemed so bubbly and friendly. I chose well. 80E for half an hour and 'all' was included. I was amazed by her. She was extremely friendly and warm. She gave very nice kisses and hugs and assumed the role of my girlfriend. We went upstairs and hugged and kissed while we removed our clothing. We lay on the bed and snuggled. I enjoyed her small but firm 'A' breasts. She gave me a CBJ and then I kissed her breasts and did a slow DATY on her. She smiled and really seemed to enjoy it. She shook and quivered frequently. At least some (most) of the time I believe that it was in response to an orgasm which she maintained for my 10 minute DATY. Finally I raised myself up and French kissed her and she got on top. Again she pumped and quivered and we had another 5 minute wild fucking followed by me on top for another 5 minute. She smiled at me and seemed happy for all that time. I fucked and fucked and then came wildly in her. I asked her to marry me &61514; . I am sure that she really did enjoy it like I did. That was really great when both are happy. Several nice hugs and kisses and I was on my way.

7 fucks – possibly a record for 90 Euros, or 13 Euros ($18) per fuck.

Tuesday Day 3 in Berlin

What a fantastic day. Started at 1 PM and Erlebnis Wohnung, continued at the Tompson Bordell and finished at Artemis with a lovely fuck of Jana. Details follow.

At Erlebniswohnung there were a lot of guys. Approximately 8 guys per girl. It was difficult to find a hole and when you did, there was some guy there getting a hand job or blow job while you were fucking a girl. It was quite a distraction. I learned to be pushy and managed to get 4 fucks with three girls but over a period of 3 or 4 hours. First I did Marine from East Germany. She was slim and I approached her after she entered the room and sat down. I was on the bed with another couple and made eye contact and smiled. That was not enough to get her to come to me. I got up and approached her and asked her. She said yes and we then lay on the bed. It was a very nice fuck. I then saw Laura from Moldavia, and she was free. She was a little fat but very warm and soft. It was just like fucking a typical American overweight teenager or 20 year old and that fantasy really turned me on. When I was done, no one else joined the party so I repeated with DATY and another nice fuck with Laura. One time I entered a room and there were about 8 guys there watching one girl get fucked. A black girl (Leila) then entered the room and lay on the bed and since I was a late arrival, I expected that I would have to wait my turn. But No. No one went for her right away and she smiled at me so I reacted quickly and had a great fuck with her. I was getting tired of waiting e. G. There were literally 9 guys in another room waiting for a single girl. Earlier there was a girl leaning over a bench near the shower being fucked by a guy and about 5 guys were lined up behind her waiting their turn.

I commented to one of the guys that there seemed to be many guys and few women. He looked at me strangely and said 'so, what is the problem'. Evidently he really liked the gang bang concept with multiple cocks and only a few pussies to be fucked repeatedly while all the others watched. I left as two new girls joined the party, but I decided not to stay due to the intense competition there. It was quite an experience. Very inexpensive, at about 90/4 or 24 euros or $35 per fuck.

Went to the Hauptbahnhof and changed money. Then to the Tompsen Bordell. I saw a nice line-up of 4 girls and chose Helen for a ½ hour session. She was a short, well-built German that looked a lot like Sudy. She kissed, and gave me a nice BBBJ and I did a nice DATY on her which she enjoyed but probably did not come. I proceeded to have a nice fuck all the while imagining fucking Sudy when she was younger and ready to get pregnant.

Afterward I was going to go to another bordello but changed my mind after having a nice glass of wine at a small bar. Went to Artemis instead.

#1 Went with Josephina from Germany, a tall beautiful blond who had the most beautiful D breasts that I have seen since an old girlfriend of mine named Karen. We had a nice warm cuddle with light kisses. She was very slow to start on more so I forced the issue with DATY which she enjoyed but did not orgasm. She then did a BBBJ on me and again took a long time. I was afraid of an upgrade to a 60 minute session since we had agreed on a 30 minute session so I again rushed us along with fucking in two positions. It was all very nice. Perhaps I could have allowed more time, but I was not sure. It was almost, but not quite, GFE.

#2 Steffi from Romania: She was a short blond with light kisses. Good BBBJ and nice DATY. She instigated a reverse cowboy position which was very, very nice and sexy. I finished with missionary and later with her on top. Friendly experience but more polite than friendly.

#3 Leila, a very friendly and sexy black girl Dominique from Martinique. Her mother was black and father was German (white). She had been in Germany almost all her life and spoke German well. She looked very nice and was very sexy acting. She turned me on with kisses and sexy caresses as we sat at the bar. She was chunky but not fat and had huge D hang-down but nice breasts. This was a very nice girl friend experience. After cuddling in the room I did a very long 10 minute DATY during which she with a wild orgasm. She proceeded to BBBJ and we finished with a great fuck. This was an absolutely fantastic GFE.

#4 Jana from Berlin. This was the best of all. She was a beautiful tall German girl that was sitting at the bar talking to a friend. I had been watching her for a while. She had beautiful large youthful D boobs. She agreed to very light kisses and was enthusiastic about the DATY. After friendly conversation and hugs she allowed me to touch her pussy with my cock. She then turned around and leaned over the bed and rubbed her pussy with my (now) erect cock. It was very nice and very sexy. We cuddled a minute or two and kisses were there but light. I then did a very long DATY on her with finger penetration and she orgasmed repeatedly. She did BBBJ and we fucked and fucked and fucked until we both came with extreme gusto. What a great experience. I make up for the previous 9 fucks that day during which I had fun, but did not allow myself an orgasm.

Wednesday – Day 4 in Berlin

I changed some money and rushed to King George for the gang bang. No one else was there. Only Petronella from Rumania was there and finally, thankfully, Claudia from Austria came in. She actually recognized me from last year when I massaged her toes and we had a long conversation at the end of the GP session. I sat at the bar for an hour or so with her and sometimes Petronella, drinking coffee. We had a nice long conversation about her and me and her 15 year old daughter. I was great. Finally we went to the back room and stripped down. We cuddled and kissed lightly for a long time and finally she started with a nice very long BBBJ. She rolled over and I kissed her and went down on her. She was ticklish with my kisses on her breast but I had a great, very long DATY with finger penetration. She came violently and had repeated orgasms. I rose up and she immediately put on a condom and we continued to fuck. She had more orgasms and we did several positions. Later we hugged and kissed and went to the bar. I had a 1-2 hour conversation with her, drank some beer and finished with another nice long fuck before I left. Obviously this was a great GFE experience. What a ball! No one else came in for the KG gang bang. I cannot believe the reason why not. Perhaps it is because they do not rotate the girls at KG.

I relaxed a while at a local outdoor bar and then went to Braunschweiger 30 kino and had a nice hug and fuck right in the theater with Kim – a 35-45 year Thai who was quite friendly and nice. She had large and slightly lumpy breasts. Then went to Royal Girl Bordello and was with Judy from Hungary who only spoke Hungarian. OK but not outstanding. I am actually getting tired of fucking. It is all the same with only small variations. Without writing things down it is hard to remember the girls and the differences. Four fucks today was enough.

[QUOTE=Mass Monger;1331529]Day 3 of 7 in Germany (see Frankfurt posts for days 1 – 2 and Koln for days 7 and 8 posts.)[/QUOTE]Report of distinction.

[QUOTE=Maoxxx;1332015]Report of distinction.[/QUOTE]Well I dunno about literary masterpiece, but it sure was an impressive, distinguished, logistical and biological tour.

And pretty self-sacrificing to boot-helping all those girls to multiple orgasms while repeatedly denying yourself.

Forgetting about the obvious "why?" (presumably to heighten pleasure somehow) , if I ever tried this, my balls would be so blue they would be reclassified as glaciers.

Mass Monger your reports are great. You have provided alot of info on rarely reported on places. If no one else RODs your reports by next week, I will.

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1329437]Before 21:00 (09:00 PM) : 150 Euros / hour.

After 21:00 (09:PM) : 160 Euros / hour[/QUOTE]Taking a quick look at the websites of the places I normally visit, Royal and Vk, I noticed they all state 150 euro for 60 min.

My memory is bad but I thought they were a bit under that price tag some time ago. Tiffany is 120, but I never liked the place too much. Also Liberty is at 120, same for Prestige.

But again, maybe it's allways been like that.

Kimino

Mass Monger excellent report mentioned:

[url]http://www.anni-porsche.de[/url]

And I saw several good reports on one of the German forums. I have not noticed other reports here. From the website it looks like open 5 or 6 hours and cost 75 Euro. I would like to see more reports before I visit Berlin next April.

Hello there,

I was the fist time in a sex kino in my life.

That was in berlin in the friesen str. 3. The homepage (kino minus friesen3 dot de) was not so good but I want to see it by my self. So I went there and try to find it. Was not so easy. Friesenstrasse is good to find but the location isn't.

Finally I found it and went in. 5€ entrance-fee is ok. Than a funny bar girl offers you something to drink and some ladys wait sitting and talking in the front room. There were some nice girls but I wanted the blond. She was jung and beautyfull and was good with hands but better with mouth and her legs. Gets wet herself quite good. Tryed this kino experience and it felt great. Next time I visit berlin this will be my first stop.

Someone here tryed a sexkino as well?

Please commend

[QUOTE=Franzis Munch;1332966]Someone here tryed a sexkino as well?[/QUOTE]Have a look at this: [url]www.kinogirls.com[/url]

But I don't know if they do parties in Berlin!

Hi swingerlover,

Thanks for your reply.

No they have no partys in berlin. But in other big citys. The page looks good. But unfortunatelly no chance for berlin.

But for me berlin is important for the rest of the year. I will be there every week for some days.

This time I tryed escort. And I can say it was a good idea. Normaly I am not inviting girls to my room. But hey, if you don't try, you will not know.

So I surfed and my third feet decided for bionce from my-escort-berlin. Com.

She was not 100% like on her photo but this is normal I think.

But her service was better than expected. A little shy in the beginning she get hot and wet when time goes by. We had some language borders, that was not so fine, but she

Found out fast what I want and so we had much fun.

If you are from berlin or arround try this girl. Next time I will try paula. Looks tall.

Have fun

[QUOTE=Franzis Munch; 1334271]Hi swingerlover,

If you are from berlin or arround try this girl.[/QUOTE]I'm not from Berlin, I'm from 6 hours and at least 600 km away.

If you are into sexparties as well, have a look at [url]www.fickanzeigen.net/partytermine[/url] And [url]www.fickreklame.com/sex-partys[/url] Or enter "Berlin" on [url]www.kontakt24.de[/url] Which should also show a lot of working girls offering their services.

Incredible.

[url]http://www.kontakt24.de/privates_modell/35579/berlin-10777-megabusen-star-karolina.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1334462]Incredible.][/QUOTE]More like the Incredible Hulk (s). You should bring oxygen tanks along to be safe as the air could get thin.

Even though RB loves a stroll down mammery lane, some things are just way over the top.

I'm making a return visit to Berlin next Thurs for a week. This time I'll be staying in Mitte, off Schoenhauser Allee. Further to the north east than I've stayed before, although I have travelled all over the city. Reading ISG of late, much doesn't seem to stand out. Based on a mixture of previous experience, a tight budget and the tone of recent reports, my preferred options look like this at the moment:

1. Kamella Dee

2. Freudenhaus Hase.

3. Airport Muschi (special offer €50)

4. Salon celine 69,

5. Tomsen bundesallee 128,

6. In Alter Manier

7. Elisas Sexkino

Any other bright ideas?

Any other recent good quality / value experiences?

[QUOTE=Brownangel954; 1335104]I'm making a return visit to Berlin next Thurs for a week. This time I'll be staying in Mitte, off Schoenhauser Allee. Further to the north east than I've stayed before, although I have travelled all over the city. Reading ISG of late, much doesn't seem to stand out. Based on a mixture of previous experience, a tight budget and the tone of recent reports, my preferred options look like this at the moment:

Any other bright ideas?

Any other recent good quality / value experiences?[/QUOTE]Maybe you want to Check the Website.

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com[/url]

(german for buy me). There are lots of private Girls. And you can get some Reports on theiry quality by other users. Most of them come to your Hotel and / or offer incall services.

[QUOTE=Brownangel954;1335104]I'm making a return visit to Berlin next Thurs for a week. This time I'll be staying in Mitte, off Schoenhauser Allee. Further to the north east than I've stayed before, although I have travelled all over the city. Reading ISG of late, much doesn't seem to stand out. Based on a mixture of previous experience, a tight budget and the tone of recent reports, my preferred options look like this at the moment:?[/QUOTE]Looks good except I guess that you know KD is not exactly a budget address. Also I would be leery of Airport Muschi as I jave never heard much good about the place cheap as it is.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1335112]Looks good except I guess that you know KD is not exactly a budget address. Also I would be leery of Airport Muschi as I jave never heard much good about the place cheap as it is.

AM[/QUOTE]I second this. You might add Liberty and Prestige to your do list. And actually the center of poon gravity is more West than East, you might find all closer if you base out of Adenauerplatz, Oliverplatz, Stutgarterpl. Lots of apartment hotel options if you search, nicer neighborhoods. Does not have the beat of where you are, but if you're going to be there, Prentzlauerberg would be better IMHO.

[QUOTE=James Bong;1335109]And you can get some Reports on theiry quality by other users.[/QUOTE]Kaufmich reviews are generally considered to be very unreliable as it is a pay site (for the girls who advertise) and any bad reviews are quickly removed.

With that in mind I do not think it is a terrible site, just that you have to be carful and any ad that looks too good to be true, probably is.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1335677]Kaufmich reviews are generally considered to be very unreliable as it is a pay site (for the girls who advertise) and any bad reviews are quickly removed.

With that in mind I do not think it is a terrible site, just that you have to be carful and any ad that looks too good to be true, probably is.

AM[/QUOTE]Thank you to all those who responded.

Hi guys,

Planning to arrive at December to berlin for 4 days.

I woukd like to participate in gang bang parties, prefer those parties that involves real swingers copules.

Thougt of going to Insomania on Thursday and Saturday.

Does anybody know anything about the 'Saturday night fuck party'?

Any other ideas maybe?

Thank you!

[QUOTE=Niceguy36;1336038]I woukd like to participate in gang bang parties,Any other ideas maybe?[/QUOTE]Yes-read the ISG Forum Thread: Germany-Partytreff Clubs. Insomnia has its own little area. Some of us such as Zimmerbaby and me were under-whelmed, but Herr Dr Wanking will tell you otherwise. Of course, if a tree hole was moist, had some fur, and a faint smell of decayed vegetation, he would / wood get aroused. He knows I am kidding (sort of). But none of us has been there on a Fri-Sat night when "real swingers" might likely to be about. There is a range of small swingers clubs around Berlin but the general view is the monkey cages at the Berliner Zoologischegarten have more attractive swingers. On the ganging up- Erlebniswohnung is another local fav, but alot else covered and uncovered in that thread.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1336073]Some of us such as Zimmerbaby and me were under-whelmed[/QUOTE]The excitement with the GB scene is its dynamic nature. It's quite unpredictable and you never know when and if you will be reaching the high (and low) peaks. To compare it with the stockmarked: you never know if you have invested your time and money in Enron or Apple, banksavings vs volatile stocks. People cum and go, magic moments appear, horny MILFs sucking cocks like it was for the last time. And best of all, the investment is relatively small.

God I miss Berlin.

As mentioned before I see escorts regularly and only leave reviews when they are very good or very bad. I'm getting a bit sick of the ones who lie on their profile about the country they are from and their age. Gabriela is the real deal. A hot sexy young from Spain region, with a beautiful face and body. She was friendly and cheerful and catered for all my smutty desires without problem. Service was excellent and the price 120€ one hour. You can find her [url]at:http://www.kaufmich.com/Gabriela-Top-Model[/url]

[QUOTE=StefanP; 1336406]As mentioned before I see escorts regularly and only leave reviews when they are very good or very bad. I'm getting a bit sick of the ones who lie on their profile about the country they are from and their age. Gabriela is the real deal. A hot sexy young from Spain region, with a beautiful face and body. She was friendly and cheerful and catered for all my smutty desires without problem. Service was excellent and the price 120€ one hour. You can find her.

[url]at:http://www.kaufmich.com/Gabriela-Top-Model[/url][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. Here is the link fixed.

[url]www.kaufmich.com/Gabriela-Top-Model[/url]


Does that price include any extras? bbbj etc.?
AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1336492]Thanks for the report. Here is the link fixed.

[url]www.kaufmich.com/Gabriela-Top-Model[/url][/QUOTE]It says one of her "likes" is shopping. That would clinch it for me.

IMHO, I would sort of trust the model bios on berlinintime. De over kaufmich. But both require a lot of work, time, and patience to find the diamonds in the rough, and it is very hit and miss. It is what it is.

Question for a professionel of the berlin scene?

I'm looking for good advice and recommendation for MILF in the city? Independent or club.

Thank you for your help

Can I have good contact of MILF in berlin.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=FabeFabe;1336943]Can I have good contact of MILF in berlin.Thanks for your help.[/QUOTE]These are taste things. One man's mother is another man's grandmother. But start by looking at the vanKampen (see Marina ooooooooooh baby or Kitty ja ja) , Monrouge (Sybel) and Salon Prestige (Gina, Vanesa, Svetlana) and maybe Ritter11 websites. Just search for them or see Angus Magee blog or read thru the thread here. All discussed many times. Otherwise, berlinintim dot de. Arguably even a few at Artemis.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1337001]These are taste things. One man's mother is another man's grandmother. .[/QUOTE]In KD :

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/lisa-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/caro-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/fiona-e.htm[/url]

Is a 35 years olded lady a MILF?

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/sonja-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/henriett-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/vicky-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/leonie-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/pia-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/mercedes-e.htm[/url]

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/natalie-e.htm[/url]

[QUOTE=Bobo.fr;1337028]Is a 35 years olded lady a MILF?[/QUOTE]Doesn't that depend on having given birth, rather than age? Since MILF is short for M-others I- L-ike to F-uck.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1336492]Thanks for the report. Here is the link fixed.

[url]www.kaufmich.com/Gabriela-Top-Model[/url]

Does that price include any extras? BBBJ etc?

AM[/QUOTE]Hi,

I saw all you post your are amazing on the berlin scene.

Can you advice me good MILF 40/50 private independant

Thanks for your help

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1337201]Doesn't that depend on having given birth, rather than age? Since MILF is short for M-others I- L-ike to F-uck.[/QUOTE]Well, I'm not quite sure that a person who looks for a MILF expects to meet a 16-17 years old teen who may have a baby!

And can a 50 years old lady who doesn't have any child be seen as a MILF ?

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1337401]Well, I'm not quite sure that a person who looks for a MILF expects to meet a 16-17 years old teen who may have a baby!

And can a 50 years old lady who doesn't have any child be seen as a MILF?[/QUOTE]But if the term MILF is confusing, then it shouldn't be used."Middle-aged woman" would propably be more preferable. So maybe we should start looking for MAWs instead of MILFs.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1338080]But if the term MILF is confusing, then it shouldn't be used."Middle-aged woman" would propably be more preferable. So maybe we should start looking for MAWs instead of MILFs.[/QUOTE]I do think MILF has come to mean a slightly older woman (maybe late 20s to mid 30s and maybe even older) who is hot but perhaps not a hard body For younger women who happen to have babies the term Yummy Mummy comes to mind.

In a way I think Sarah Palin typifies the MILF look though I personally would not fuck her with someone else's dick.

Incidentally there are many, many MILFish ladies working at Berlin's smaller bordellos. I would almost say they are in the majority unless you go to the more well known bordellos generally discussed here.

e.g. [url]http://www.erotikpur-modelle.de/[/url]

and [url]http://www.herzberlin.de/[/url]

AM

My experience of the Berlin mongering scene has so far been limited to a couple of visits to Artemis. I decided to try something different and looked for an independent escort. On kaufmich. Com, I saw the profile for Eva, a 25 year old Polish woman with a cute face and big natural tits, who offered an hour including covered sex and BBBJ for 100 euros.

I called her and arranged an appointment with her at midday, leaving me just enough time to get ready and get the S-Bahn to Mitte.

She buzzed me up and welcomed me into her small but clean two-room flat wearing a skin-tight black dress. She looked not quite as hot in the flesh as in her profile photos, but still very fuckable, with a very inviting cleavage.

We agreed on an hour. I handed over 100 euros then showered and joined her on the bed. After some kissing and caressing whilst discussing what I wanted to do during the session, she pushed my towel aside and started to stroke my cock and balls, before starting to suck me. She deep throated me and I just lay there and enjoyed the feeling of the tip of my cock rubbing against her throat while her lips were clamped tight around the base.

She lay back and I kissed my way down her body and started licking at her shaved. There were no complaints when my tongue slipped down to probe her arsehole. The wetness and her moans indicated that she appreciated the attention.

I moved up her body and dry humped her pussy, then moved up and positioned my cock between her tits. Eva needed no prompting to push her tits together and let me tit fuck her. My dick felt fantastic between those soft tits, surrounded by her warm flesh with a good amount of friction, lubricated only by her sweat and my pre-cum.

At my suggestion, she lay on her stomach and I kissed my way down her back, planted some kisses on her butt cheeks before homing in on her tasty arsehole. As I was tonguing her rear, I slipped first a finger and then a thumb into her wet pussy. As far as I could tell from her moans and the way she pushed her bum back into my face, she was genuinely enjoying this treatment.

After a while, a condom was slipped on and we fucked in a couple of positions. Then followed more oral, the highlight of which was Eva lying on her back while I fucked her mouth.

We finished with more tit fucking. I asked her if I could cum between her tits. She agreed with a smile then I just held still while she pressed her tits together and wobbled them around my dick. That felt indescribable and it didn't take long before she took me to the point of no return and I shot a good-sized load over her throat and the upper slopes of her tits.

I showered again before leaving with a smile on my face and the taste of Eva's pussy juice still in my mouth. All in all it was a very satisfying session, and hard to beat at that price. I will definitely be visiting the lovely Eva again.

There are some dodgy-looking ads on kaufmich, but if your German skills are up to it, there are some gems to be found.

Hello!

I'm going to Berlin next week with my friend. Of course we go to see Artemis but we would also order 2 escort girls to our apartment. Do you guys have recommendations for us. Girls don't have to be photomodels but not ugly ones either. If you have specific girls in mind then let us know. Or if you can recommend some good escort company. Let us know also! Do you have experience ordering 2 or more girls to your apartment with friend? Is group sex possible and does it cost some extra?

Thanks!

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1338086]In a way I think Sarah Palin typifies the MILF look though I personally would not fuck her with someone else's dick.[/QUOTE]Angus, if you do happen to have a momentary moral lapse, you're very welcome to do her with mine...

Would appreciate any info on early morning options in Berlin, Between 8AM-10AM. Are any of the Bordellos operating at this time.

Thanks in advance

[QUOTE=Lucknow; 1339366]Would appreciate any info on early morning options in Berlin, Between 8AM-10AM. Are any of the Bordellos operating at this time.

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]There are, but I don't like your chances of finding a great session at that hour. Here is one I happen to know of that claims to operate 24 hrs.

[url]http://www.aston-berlin.de/[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Ugeli; 1338407]Hello!

I'm going to Berlin next week with my friend. Of course we go to see Artemis but we would also order 2 escort girls to our apartment. Do you guys have recommendations for us. Girls don't have to be photomodels but not ugly ones either. If you have specific girls in mind then let us know. Or if you can recommend some good escort company. Let us know also! Do you have experience ordering 2 or more girls to your apartment with friend? Is group sex possible and does it cost some extra?

Thanks![/QUOTE]The escort scene in Berlin is always a bit dodgy. You can get an idea and an overview on my blog somewhere in the Berlin scene section.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62[/url]

That said I would try this agency which seems to have a reasonably good track record these days.

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/[/url]

Doing a foursome should be no problem though you will likely be expected to pay a bit extra (€40?) for the service of multiple men.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1339419]The escort scene in Berlin is always a bit dodgy. You can get an idea and an overview on my blog somewhere in the Berlin scene section.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/?cat=62[/url]

That said I would try this agency which seems to have a reasonably good track record these days.

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/[/url]

Doing a foursome should be no problem though you will likely be expected to pay a bit extra (€40?) for the service of multiple men.

AM[/QUOTE]Hi Magnus.

You are the professional in the Berlin scene as I solicits your help.

What Bordell equip with a jacuzzi can you advise me?

Thank you in advance

[QUOTE=FabeFabe; 1339986]Hi Magnus.

You are the professional in the Berlin scene as I solicits your help.

What Bordell equip with a jacuzzi can you advise me?

Thank you in advance[/QUOTE]I would have to say Liberty. But I am not sure if you have to pay extra to use it. Probably depends upon the length of the session.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1340235]I would have to say Liberty. But I am not sure if you have to pay extra to use it. Probably depends upon the length of the session.

[url]http://www.libertyberlin.de/index_2.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Well Magnus (that is Angus' secret Transformer name) is right-but jacuzzis can be found also at Royal, Prestige, and the new van Kampen. I think Kamilla Dee might have one as well, upstairs.

You just need to call ahead to book. So plenty of choices to keep clean with your favorite provider.

Even Ye Olde Love Bahnhoff Artemis has it in their VIP room, and now outside in the Poondorf wing.

Hi Everyone,

Does anyone have advice on getting a good session (higher price / quality range) on a 'late hour'?

Are there any possibilities at 3AM or 4AM in Berlin? I will be staying in a part of town that is called 'Tiergarten' and it is my first time in Berlin.

Tanks for any advice you can give.

Sometimes life is good to an 'Old Guy! '

Last weekend I was in Berlin for a few days.

On Friday night I was at a small German restaurant with about 20 colleagues.

Between courses I went outside for a smoke and saw a rather attractive black girl also having a cigarette.

She spoke to me, in German, and I replied that my German was not so good and that my English was better. She immediately replied (in English) that her English was better than her German as well and that she was from Kenya.

I told her that I had been in Nairobi earlier this year and she replied that she was originally from Nairobi, had been in Germany for two years, and asked me about my trip to Nairobi and where I stayed there.

After chatting for a few minutes I had to return to my colleagues but not before asking her for a phone number.

She did not have a pen with her but told me that she would give me her number later!

So, before coffee I again went outside for a smoke and after a few minutes she joined me and slipped me a piece of paper with her phone number.

So the next day I called her and asked if she would like to join me for lunch at my hotel. She agreed and we met in reception.

Over lunch we talked about Kenya and Nairobi and I told her that I had some pictures of Nairobi on my camera memory card which was in my room!

She readily agreed that we should go up to my room to look at them.

While looking at the pics I told her that I had learned a few words of Swahili and she asked me if I remembered any of them.

I told her that I could remember ONE, and that was Nibusu (which means 'Kiss me! ')

She hesitated for a few seconds and then, with a slight smile replied 'OK! '

The next few hours were simply GREAT!

She was 27 years old, tall, slim, and had a BEAUTIFUL body, which she knew how to use soooooo well!

Unfortunately I was not able to see her again as I had business arrangements made for that evening and the rest of my stay which I could not break but I now have her email address for my next trip to Berlin.

I suppose that I was just 'in the right place at the right time' as there was no question of her wanting money, just a nice time!

As I said, SOMETIMES life is sooooooo GOOD to an old guy!

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1340622]Sometimes life is good to an 'Old Guy! '

Last weekend I was in Berlin for a few days.

As I said, SOMETIMES life is sooooooo GOOD to an old guy!

Hotman.[/QUOTE]And this story is relevant to the forum, uhmm, how, exactly? Maybe suitable for Penthouse Forum, but come on.

Everybody here can write pages upon pages about their non-professional encounters, it would make the forum pretty useless for others, though.

Just my 5 cents.

[QUOTE=Ravein2;1340735]And this story is relevant to the forum, uhmm, how, exactly? Maybe suitable for Penthouse Forum, but come on.[/QUOTE]Kind of agree here. I mean I do understand the desire / need to boast but really this does not help our plight to find pussy.


Unless of course he would care to share her number ;)

AM

I am kicking ass and taking names. Name of the young lass, please. The name of the restaurant where she works and HER phone nos please.

In future you can also try Riva-bar. There is a lot of action for the p4p, semipro and just nice looking sheilas.

Dircksenstraße 142, 10178 Berlin, Germany.

+49 30 24722688 &8206; · riva-berlin. De

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0; 1340337]Well Magnus (that is Angus' secret Transformer name) is right-but jacuzzis can be found also at Royal, Prestige, and the new van Kampen. I think Kamilla Dee might have one as well, upstairs.

You just need to call ahead to book. So plenty of choices to keep clean with your favorite provider.

Even Ye Olde Love Bahnhoff Artemis has it in their VIP room, and now outside in the Poondorf wing.[/QUOTE]Add Monrouge to the list.

Cheers

Ok. Time to "give something back" after all I've learned from these forums. I had a week holiday and finally made it over to Berlin. Very nice city with lots to do on all fronts. But you're not here to read about the art galleries!

I managed to try the main things I was interested in. The excellent Berlin Bordellos, Artemis, and Erlebniswohnung. You will see more below, but basically my experience was consistent with those who've said the Bordellos here, especially KD, are the real jewels of Berlin.

First the Bordellos, starting with Royal.

Royal Bordello, Tuesday night.

Easy to get to on U-Bahn and find address based on web site. I get buzzed in, climb the stairs, and enter a stately Berlin apartment. The madame is professional, speaks English, and explains things reasonably well. What she says regarding pricing etc. Is consistent with the web site. There are a *lot* of girls on the web site, many of them hot, but no schedule and I'm pretty sure that the web site can't possibly be up to date.

I get the line-up, which is impressive, and at the end am torn between Karina and Michaela. Karina gave indications that she was very interested in the session, while Michaela had a petite body type that I'm quite interested in. I let the little head do the thinking, and picked Michaela. In retrospect maybe I should have gone with Karina, whose wicked smile and raised eyebrows may or may not have indicated that there was going to be some chemistry. While Michaela was nice enough and eager to please, I wouldn't really say the chemistry was there and while I enjoyed myself it was nothing spectacular. It just reinforces my rule, which I often regret disregarding, to always "go with the chemistry". Now I found that at Royal there was a certain degree of upsetting, which might have had to do with my being an obvious foreigner and newbie on the Berlin scene. Damage for the session was 110 for 45 minutes, plus 20 for BBBJ plus another 20 for COB. Total was 150 Euros. Michaela did not kiss. It was not a complete bust as she was a nice girl with a cute little body, communications were good, and the rooms were decent. However I was hoping things would get better, and they did when I checked out Kamilla Dee.

Next: Kamilla Dee, Tuesday night.

As KD is not far from Royal, I wandered over after my session in Royal. Found the address easily enough (about a 15 minute walk from Royal) and again the location was fine. Respectable looking and, although there are a bunch of sidewalk cafes around, nobody seemed to pay the slightest attention to me as I pressed the buzzer. Went up to be greater by Madame Marta, who was pleasant and professional in an equally pleasant apartment. I had been heeding Angus's endorsement of this agency as *the* best, and this was to be borne out. First, they actually have a weekly schedule online so I had a fairly good idea of who I should in theory expect to be there. Let me say that I was quite skeptical about this, as my experience with Bordellos does not equate with reliability or predictability. Happily I was proven wrong, and the lineup was quite representative of what was promised on the online schedule. In particular, two girls I was enthusiastic about based on the web site were there as promised on the Tuesday night.

Renee: I actually saw Renee's profile prior to an aborted trip a couple of years ago, and always thought it looked like she had a killer body. Not a lot of "options" flagged, but I was intrigued nonetheless. Part of my reason for visiting Tuesday night was on the hope that she would be there, as indicated in the schedule, and I was not disappointed. She is attractive in a very "girl next door" kind of way, and was dressed in a very tasteful but sexy outfit. I went for it and was happy I did. She has what for me is the absolute perfect body, and was very enthusiastic in all aspects. I am surprised to be reporting that, although the oral *is* covered as indicated by Angus and others, this was hands down the best I had had either covered or not. I'm a bit large, and have a lot of girls have had difficulty doing satisfactory oral. However Renee managed to do an incredible job. I can not believe how deep she was going. The rest was sex in many positions and between her enthusiasm and the visuals provided by the many mirrors it was absolutely mind blowing. There was also no charge for COB, so the total damage for 45 min was I thought a very reasonable 120 Euros. For me this session came close to an ATB, even with the CBJ and without any particularly exotic options. Her attitude was just great. 120 Euros well spent for the 45 minute session with no options (the COB that was 20 Euros at Royal was free in this case).

Chiara: this girl had also caught my attention both in the online schedule and in person in the lineup. After Renee I went out for a quick dinner on the street and decided I had to come back for a session with Chiara. Really great attitude, and just a killer smile. Had a lot of fun with her and really enjoyed the time together. Although her web profile indicates more options, these were not raised and had a great time with just the standard 45 minute session at 120 Euros. She was really into it.

I was also pretty intrigued by Julia at KD, but three pops in one evening is more than enough for me.

The next day I had planned to visit Erlebniswohnung early in the day as recommended by other posters. I went in knowing it might not be my cup of tea and was ready to write it off to experience if needed. Got there right at noon and there were two girls and, quite rapidly, maybe eight guys there. Initially only one of the girls was active. A cute, Rubanesque Polish girl whose name I cannot remember. The second, a similarly cute but more slender German girl, went into action around 1PM to give the first girl a break. The facilities were quite decent, with food served and beverages including beer included. The proprietor, Mustafa, was professional and courteous. However I very quickly it was not going to be my thing, partly from the type of girl on offer, the mechanical-ness of it, the fact that there was not going to be much if any rapport especially with my lack of German, and I guess I realized that for me the foreplay is a big part of the event. The line-up of other dudes waiting to have a go was not really helping me either, although my hat is off to the several gents there that could have been my father if not my grandfather. I have no regrets for having seen it, but I do believe in cutting my losses and after pounding my meat into a somewhat tender state the night before at Royal and KD (the last two sessions were particularly energetic) I didn't feel like pushing it. I was a bit curious to see the other girls expected to show up around 2PM, but I didn't last that long and moved on to rest up for Artemis that night.

Artemis.

Got there around 9 PM, showered, and got comfortable. Had a few initial shark attacks, but I have no trouble saying no (have been to Oase and Sylt before). Consistent with others who've reported, I did like the vibe at Oase a bit more (and the cheaper prices are also nice). However I still had a great time in three sessions (including one duo) and would definitely visit Artemis again. I will post the details under the Artemis thread.

So to summarize, Berlin is a really great city, both for punting and otherwise. I actually live in what might be the only North American city with a pretty decent punting scene, but I still prefer the German approach on many levels. For one thing, the girls where I live can almost never be bothered to wear lingerie, and I really find the sexy dress prevalent in European brothels to be a big turn-on. You can really sense the openness toward sexuality here. Maybe it's my imagination, but even when catching a girl's eye on the street I found I was more likely to get a mischievous smile in response here whereas a girl in Paris might scowl back or in my own city just avert her gaze.

I'm still in Berlin, but taking a one day break. Thanks again for all the invaluable info here.

E

Hi Belvaros / Angus / Ravein,

My apologies,

I now feel rather embarrassed about my post as, when I read it again it seems like I was just "boasting!"

That was not my intention. I was just trying to describe what was, to an 'Old Guy', a rather 'surprising' (but FUN) encounter!

The girls name was Kim but as she was a "civilian" rather than P4P I do not feel comfortable in passing her details on.

She did not "work" at the small restaurant where I found her. She was just having a drink with some friends.

Sorry, I can not even remember the name of the place. I can just remember that it was just off Kurfursendamm in (I think) Meinekestrasse.

Sorry that I can not be of more help.

Thank you for the information on Riva Bar.

I am not a frequent traveller to Berlin but will certainly try it when I get there again.

Hotman.

[QUOTE=Hotman 666; 1341644]Hi Belvaros / Angus / Ravein,

My apologies, .[/QUOTE]I guess my post came across slightly the wrong way. I was not seriously saying you should not post this here. I mean strictly speaking it is outside the scope of our thread but as I say, the need to tell someone is also valid. In my opinion anyway. And it does give us a view to the possibilities out there even if it was not P4P and the girl not a pro.

In any case if it serves to fire up Belvaros again it has done its' job.

AM

No need to apologize. I liked your report. Need more like them but with the ADDED information of who, where, when as well as how.

I find these boards get bogged down in too much info that is not useful like the arguments boards known as Kiev, Medellin etc but if you post just try to add some of those relevant features as this is a give and receive blog.

Best wishes

For my last day here I decided to try Liberty and Monrouge. Both easy to find and access by U-Bahn, and no hassles buzzing in without appointment (not to mention without the ability to speak German).

At Liberty, took Natasha (German) who only had limited English but didn't matter. Great attitude, very nice tight body and cute face. Took a 40 min session at 80 Euros plus BBBJ for 20, so total damage was 100. Very satisfied customer. She is on the web site, and the pics are accurate.

Had some lunch at nearby café (Liberty is right beside Caligula, which I didn't try due to somewhat negative reports here) and then hopped U-Bahn over to Monrouge. Only two girls were on at Monrouge, perhaps it was shift change time. I went with Dea (Romanian) , who has very nice slender body and good attitude. Was a pretty straightforward session (80 for 30 min session plus 20 for kissing, so 100 total) but very enjoyable. Pleasantly chatty afterward (excellent English) , with no rush (until reception issued a knocked reminder on the door). Monrouge has some very high quality photos on their web site, and in this case I found them to be accurate.

E

[QUOTE=Volley; 1340495]Hi Everyone,

Does anyone have advice on getting a good session (higher price / quality range) on a 'late hour'?

Are there any possibilities at 3AM or 4AM in Berlin? I will be staying in a part of town that is called 'Tiergarten' and it is my first time in Berlin.

Tanks for any advice you can give.[/QUOTE]At that hour (well 03:00 a. M.) I would suggest heading for Artemis. 04:00 a.m. is getting it a little fine even for Artemis as it closes at 05:00 a. M.

Alternately you might try Mon Rouge as it is also open late, 05:00 I believe. There you would not have to pay entry so it might even be a better bet. Though the line up at MR can be slim even at the best of times.

AM

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[QUOTE=Brownangel954; 1335104]3. Airport Muschi (special offer €50)

Any other recent good quality / value experiences?[/QUOTE]Brownangel mentioned this was on his list. I have not seen any info.

Has a website:

[url]http://www.airport-muschis.de/club/[/url]

It appears to be a gang bang club.

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1342197]It appears to be a gang bang club.[/QUOTE]Why? The website doesn't mention gangbang. Looks like a regular flatrate Pauschalclub to me. (Which does not generally rule out gangbang of course.)

[QUOTE=Diet Coke; 1342197]Brownangel mentioned this was on his list. I have not seen any info.

Has a website:

[url]http://www.airport-muschis.de/club/[/url]

It appears to be a gang bang club.[/QUOTE]This was the location of the old Pussy Club before their legal difficulties in which the owner / manager ended up in jail for tax evasion. I have heard nothing good about the place. Apparently the pics of the girls on the site are a bit misleading and the girls that actually work there, the ones you find upon showing up, are disappointing.

That said-it would not be a bad thing to get an up to date report here on the ISG. Just don't expect too much and be ready to run.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1342314]This was the location of the old Pussy Club before their legal difficulties in which the owner / manager ended up in jail for tax evasion. I have heard nothing good about the place.[/QUOTE]I think you're talking about the.

[url=http://www.bordell-erotica-berlin.eu]Club Erotica[/url]

Reputation.

(webpage is still working). It looks like now they are back to the flatrate concept with this new incarnation. I never visited Pussy Club in Berlin, but had great time at their partner club in Wuppertal. We definitely need reports about Airport Muschis.

[QUOTE=Varenne; 1342332]I think you're talking about the.

[url=http://www.bordell-erotica-berlin.eu]Club Erotica[/url][/QUOTE]The Pussy Club owner was done for tax evasion.But this news is a couple years old.

[url]http://www.thelocal.de/society/20100724-28713.html[/url]

The two clubs Erotica & Airport Muschi seem to be one and the same as they both have the same address : Mittlestr 8 12529

All the more reason for a report


AM

Greetings Dear Colleagues!

I'll be in Berlin in Mid November for a few days. I'll, of course, make a trip to Artemis, but I was also thinking of hitting the Bordel scene and checking out Kamilla Dee.

The lovely lass Chrissie caught my eye form their Website profile. Has anyone had any experience with her? I did a forum search and found two reports. One where she refused to session with the guy and another where she did not show up for an appointment.

Is this chick a total flake and not worth the time? My time in Berlin will be short and I'd hate to waste it. On the other hand the thought of getting my hands on those voluptuous juggs is mighty appealing.

Any info will be much appreciated and I promise to post my experiences.

Thanks in advance!

Uncle V

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1342703]Greetings Dear Colleagues!

I'll be in Berlin in Mid November for a few days. I'll, of course, make a trip to Artemis, but I was also thinking of hitting the Bordel scene and checking out Kamilla Dee.

The lovely lass Chrissie caught my eye form their Website profile. Has anyone had any experience with her? I did a forum search and found two reports. One where she refused to session with the guy and another where she did not show up for an appointment.

Is this chick a total flake and not worth the time? My time in Berlin will be short and I'd hate to waste it. On the other hand the thought of getting my hands on those voluptuous juggs is mighty appealing.

Any info will be much appreciated and I promise to post my experiences.

Thanks in advance!

Uncle V[/QUOTE]Generally there is always a chance of this happening. The girls lead sometimes chaotic lives and there is always the chance that a customer will extend his time. If the girl knows you as regular she will probably then refuse the extension. If you are a new customer though you will likely be bumped for the sure thing she has. I am not sure I even disagree with this strategy as I am sure there are many missed appointments cause by clients. Best thing is in any case to have a back up plan and be prepared to implement it.

In other words-don't put all your eggs in one basket. Just common sense to me.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1342706]Generally there is always a chance of this happening. The girls lead sometimes chaotic lives and there is always the chance that a customer will extend his time. If the girl knows you as regular she will probably then refuse the extension. If you are a new customer though you will likely be bumped for the sure thing she has. I am not sure I even disagree with this strategy as I am sure there are many missed appointments cause by clients. Best thing is in any case to have a back up plan and be prepared to implement it.

In other words-don't put all your eggs in one basket. Just common sense to me.

AM[/QUOTE]Thanks, Angus. Nice to get a reply form the master!

Artemis is my backup. But I'd be happy to hear any recommendations form you for Bordel girls.

Best,

Uncle V

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya;1342711]But I'd be happy to hear any recommendations form you for Bordel girls.[/QUOTE]Truth you would do better going back in this thread and looking up posts rather than relying on any recommendations I have (none to be honest) of borsello girls. I tend to go to Artemis and make any recommendations I have in that thread.

Look up the posts of Bobo. Fr. He is our resident expert on the various KD girls.

AM

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1342703]. Etc.

The lovely lass Chrissie caught my eye form their Website profile. Has anyone had any experience with her?

Etc.[/QUOTE]Sorry, I can not help because.

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1342703]. Etc.

I did a forum search and found two reports. One where she refused to session with the guy

Etc.[/QUOTE]This guy was me : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1195968&viewfull=1#post1195968[/url] (see "Marie")

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1342703]. Etc.

And another where she did not show up for an appointment.

Etc.[/QUOTE]This appointment was with me : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1148540&viewfull=1#post1148540[/url] (see "Thursday 21rst")

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1342703]. Etc.

My time in Berlin will be short and I'd hate to waste it. Etc.[/QUOTE]Good luck because, as you can read on her new web page : "No appointments in advance!

Only spontaneous visits in our house!" ([url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/chrissie-e.htm[/url])

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1342876]Sorry, I can not help because.

This guy was me :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1195968&viewfull=1#post1195968[/url]

(see "Marie")

This appointment was with me :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1148540&viewfull=1#post1148540[/url]

(see "Thursday 21rst")

Good luck because, as you can read on her new web page : "No appointments in advance!

Only spontaneous visits in our house!" (

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/english/sexy_girls/chrissie-e.htm[/url]

) [/QUOTE]Thanks man. I will definitely post if I am lucky enough to meet her.

Good hunting!

Uncle V

A month ago I had a visit by Noemi, a black girl from Venezuala. Contact via telephone, speaks better english than german (spanish not tested). Pictures in berlinintim are valid, although her complexion is darker and some months have to be added to the 25 years.

But overal a nice mulatto woman with nice big breasts, buttocks and nice clean smooth skin and dark long hair. Prices 80 Euro for half an hour. 140 for one hour.

Agreed about massage, kissing, french and sex. Everything somehow delivered.

Quite a nice girl, but for 140 Euro I would expect some more initiative and illusion of emotion. You want something from me, please serve yourself! Massage was more a distribution of oil on my backside, french was with condom, although with eager efforts, kissing was without response. Altogether a program for 30min, but still pricey then.

A really slim, nice woman, but in hindsight slighty too much money for the service. But the price was agreed in advance, no haggeling later. Maybe some sparks were mssing between me and her, but someone else with stronger commands might enjoy her company more.

No repetition planned.

A twin forum? For example, let's compare

[url]http://forum.cityxguide.com/topic/berlin/page/100[/url]

with
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1147820&viewfull=1#post1147820[/url]

[QUOTE=Bobo. Fr; 1343697]A twin forum? For example, let's compare.

[url]http://forum.cityxguide.com/topic/berlin/page/100[/url]

With.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1147820&viewfull=1#post1147820[/url][/QUOTE]This has been around for a while. I guess they steal our work and try to get paid for it. Outrageous of the one hand, not much we can do about it on the other, I am guessing that Jackson knows but maybe someone else emailing him will have hime issue a take down notice.

AM

Vsit to Royal Monday 29-11-12.

I arrived in Berlin to vsit for a few days. On a previous visit I had had a successfull visit to this establishment (as reported). So after settling into the hotel I headed for the S-Bahn and travelled to Bundesplatz via Westkreutz Banhoff. At Bundesplatz I found Royal and rung the bell on the door entry system. I climbed two flights of stairs to an open door where the Madam was waiting for me. The Madam was young and attractive and spoke good English. I was shown to a the same room that I used on the previous visit. I find the appointment of this room to be to a good standard and together with the background music creates a good mood. I was shown a line up of five girls. Overall I thought the line up was good. There were three German girls from Berlin. The very last girl in the line up was a stunning blonde from Hungray. I found the idea of going with one of the German girls appealing and I chose a girl called Juliete. It was explained to me that this was a French name or French spelling. Juliete showed me to and from the shower. A towel and soap and mouth wash were all provided.

Juliete was wearing a very sexy and kinky outfit. We helped each other to open the fastners.

I found Juliete to be warm and accomodating to my desires. She was happy to do DATY. After I had come she continued with a back massage. After this there was plenty of kissing and cuddling. There was no indication that she wanted to cut the session short as I experienced at KD on my last visit to Berlin (as reported). This session was very good.

After the session the Madam took the trouble to ask me if everything was satisfactory. This was unlike KD on my last visit there.

This visit confirmed my previous impression of Royal as an establishment of good quality.

I would give 8 out of 10 overall. This covers the quality of the room and facilitys, the quality of the line up, quality of the session, and the attention given by the Madam.

Hi, I have just joined the forum and despite being a newbie am fairly active under another name on another site and forum which deals with Manchester, England.

I am in Berlin between 15 and 19 December staying not so far away from Tegel Airport. Has anyone had any experiences or able to give pointers about the sex scene in the Reinickendorf and Wedding areas? Any info at all would be appreciated as my German is not so good.

Thanks,

ScottishGuy

[QUOTE=ScottishGuy; 1345227]Hi, I have just joined the forum and despite being a newbie am fairly active under another name on another site and forum which deals with Manchester, England.

I am in Berlin between 15 and 19 December staying not so far away from Tegel Airport. Has anyone had any experiences or able to give pointers about the sex scene in the Reinickendorf and Wedding areas? Any info at all would be appreciated as my German is not so good.

Thanks,

ScottishGuy[/QUOTE]There are two bordellos very close the the airport.

[url]http://www.klix37.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.intime-modelle.de/[/url]

Both reasonable places, I am pretty sure there are a couple of reports in this thread if you search.

But as you are here for 4 days, unless you are working, you will have the time to go pretty much any where in Berlin. So have a read of the thread and see what interests you or a quick look on my blog.

[url]http://www.angusmagee.com/[/url]

As for the language, it can pose some difficulty but nothing insurmountable. Many of the foreign girls speak some English. Just try to get a working knowledge of prices and such before you go.

AM

I have read quite a bit in the Berlin thread but could not find any answer to my soon coming question so maby that is an answer itself. But do something like a freelance place exist? I mean like a bar or a disco / nightclub where the arrangments is not exactly a bordello but more a normal place with easygoing ladies. I know there are great oppurtunity to charm girls the normal way in Berlin but beeing part of a 6 guys crew we need sth more certain than just based on our pure charm, hehe.

Some of the members does not like to hit bordellos / sexclubs (me included).

Maby some know of some disco / nightclubs with a lot of girls from east europe. That should do the trick. As I am a bit active in Thailand, Philippine, Indonesia and China ISG sections there are a lot of freelancegirls in those countries and places they go to. Anything like this in Berlin?

Please advice.

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1345678]I have read quite a bit in the Berlin thread but could not find any answer to my soon coming question so maby that is an answer itself. But do something like a freelance place exist? I mean like a bar or a disco / nightclub where the arrangments is not exactly a bordello but more a normal place with easygoing ladies. I know there are great oppurtunity to charm girls the normal way in Berlin but beeing part of a 6 guys crew we need sth more certain than just based on our pure charm, hehe.

Some of the members does not like to hit bordellos / sexclubs (me included).

Maby some know of some disco / nightclubs with a lot of girls from east europe. That should do the trick. As I am a bit active in Thailand, Philippine, Indonesia and China ISG sections there are a lot of freelancegirls in those countries and places they go to. Anything like this in Berlin?

Please advice.[/QUOTE]There has been discussion on this subject on this thread at various times, definitely within the past year. Look for posts by Belvaros & Charlie123.

But with all respect, maybe get over your dislike of sex clubs? Uless you really do object to a sure thing. My impression of the sorts of places Belvaros finds is that they are not full of wgs. There may be one or two but the freelance scene you know from Asia simply does not exist as such in Berlin. At least I have never heard of it if it does.

AM

Hi Guys!

I will be in Berlin the week after next. I'm doing a two layovers in the fair city en route to a 3rd Euro country for work. So I have Saturday night and the Monday night of the next week in Berlin.

I've RTFF and I've narrowed my mongering destinations to 2 choices 1) Erlebniswohnung and 2) Artemis (the old stand-by). I'd appreciate you guys' advice on which place to visit on Saturday, and which on Monday. I've read that Erlebniswohnung has more girls on weekends, but that its quite crowded as well. But I think the same can be said for Atemis. On the other hand, I think the lineup at Artemis may be better on Monday than what I'd find at Erlebniswohnung.

Quite a conundrum! But I'm sure I'll get some sage advice on this issue form you fine gentleman.

Stay horny my friends!

Uncle V

[QUOTE=Skogis; 1345678]I have read quite a bit in the Berlin thread but could not find any answer to my soon coming question so maby that is an answer itself. But do something like a freelance place exist? I mean like a bar or a disco / nightclub where the arrangments is not exactly a bordello but more a normal place with easygoing ladies. I know there are great oppurtunity to charm girls the normal way in Berlin but beeing part of a 6 guys crew we need sth more certain than just based on our pure charm, hehe.

Some of the members does not like to hit bordellos / sexclubs (me included).

Maby some know of some disco / nightclubs with a lot of girls from east europe. That should do the trick. As I am a bit active in Thailand, Philippine, Indonesia and China ISG sections there are a lot of freelancegirls in those countries and places they go to. Anything like this in Berlin?

Please advice.[/QUOTE]From what I've read on the forum FLs can be found (in limited numbers) at the Riva bar. I'll try to pop in to at least give it a look while I'm in Berlin the week after next, and I'll write a little report.

But from what I understand this ain't Pattaya.

[QUOTE=Uncle Volodya; 1345772]Hi Guys!

I will be in Berlin the week after next. I'm doing a two layovers in the fair city en route to a 3rd Euro country for work. So I have Saturday night and the Monday night of the next week in Berlin.

I've RTFF and I've narrowed my mongering destinations to 2 choices 1) Erlebniswohnung and 2) Artemis (the old standbye). I'd appreciate you guys' advice on which place to visit on Saturday, and which on Monday. I've read that Erlebniswohnung has more girls on weekends, but that its quite crowded as well. But I think the same can be said for Atemis. On the other hand, I think the lineup at Artemis may be better on Monday than what I'd find at Erlebniswohnung.

Quite a conundrum! But I'm sure I'll get some sage advice on this issue form you sage gentleman.

Stay horny my friends!

Uncle V[/QUOTE]To me this is really apples and oranges. Artemis is an FKK-big, expensive (relatively) and why ou have one on one time with the girls who are for the most part pretty hot.

The other is a gang bang apartment. No doubt you will also find some hot girls there but you will generally be sharing with a number of other guys.

I can say that Artemis is better line up wise on Saturday. But it ain't terrible on Monday. There are also some advantages to a less busy day at Artemis in my opinion.

AM

Hi,

Are there any providers preg or lactating in or around Berlin-Frankfurt?

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope; 1346727]Hi,

Are there any providers preg or lactating in or around Berlin-Frankfurt?[/QUOTE]Here is one in Salon Prestige:

[url]http://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/ladies/joyce/joyce.html[/url]

[QUOTE=Shah Khan; 1346847]Here is one in Salon Prestige:

[url]http://www.salon-prestige-berlin.de/ladies/joyce/joyce.html[/url][/QUOTE]Thank you!

[QUOTE=BerlinBoy; 1338348]My experience of the Berlin mongering scene has so far been limited to a couple of visits to Artemis. I decided to try something different and looked for an independent escort. On kaufmich. Com, I saw the profile for Eva, a 25 year old Polish woman with a cute face and big natural tits, who offered an hour including covered sex and BBBJ for 100 euros.

I called her and arranged an appointment with her at midday, leaving me just enough time to get ready and get the S-Bahn to Mitte.

She buzzed me up and welcomed me into her small but clean two-room flat wearing a skin-tight black dress. She looked not quite as hot in the flesh as in her profile photos, but still very fuckable, with a very inviting cleavage.

We agreed on an hour. I handed over 100 euros then showered and joined her on the bed.[/QUOTE]Hello,

Could you provide the adress / url of EVA?

Thanks

Yesterday, early in the afternoon I called them to check availability of a massage session. Upon their confirmation I went there from the hotel in which I am staying. I was looking for tantra massage, but receptionist told me that at that moment there was nobody capable of doing tantra massage, instead offered erotic massage. I was in a hurry and I planned myself for half an hour session. There were three ladies available, all German nationality. I chose Tina who was not listed on their website. After payment process of €80, she came back, I gave rest of the money (€20) beforehand to her as a tip and she started massaging my back with some cream. After I turned the other way around, I asked her to take her bra out and started to kiss her nipples. I asked if she wants DATY, she said she likes it. She was very responsive to DATY and reached to climax. Then she rode on me at cowgirl position to finish the job. After, we have had some cudling and soft kisses of lips. She was nice to talk and a joyful lady. She doesn't have a slim body, but quite tight, and curvous. Anyway, I liked her and enjoyed that short session.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69; 1347983]Hello,

Could you provide the adress / url of EVA?

Thanks[/QUOTE][url]Http://www.kaufmich.com/Eva25[/url]

Took all of 45 seconds on THAT website to find a 25 yr old Polish girl called EVA you lazy son of a gun.

[QUOTE=Will Smith69; 1347983]Hello,

Could you provide the adress / url of EVA?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I am guessing this is her.

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Eva25[/url]

BR

Bondo

[QUOTE=Charlie 123; 1166888]Hi.

If Monrouge's current price list accords with your budget, then Monica is definitely one to look out for. A terrific girl.

Charlie[/QUOTE]Hi C.

My last visit to Berlin was at may 2011, I found Monrouge a nice place with a good service from the staff and a nice lineup with a reasonable price, a also loved Monica service so much that I returned for her the next day again.

I will visit Berlin again soon so I read your reports just to catch up what has changed in the scene, I was unhappy to read that monrouge and bel ami have merged since my experience with bel ami is not good, especially with their pricing system and poor service, I don't remember what I paid at monrouge. But I don't think it was more than 150 for hour with full service, so please help me to understand if I visited monrouge before or after their merger with bel ami.

In any case I don't think it will change my decision to visit Monica again, she is certainly worth it, one of the best.

Dan

I visited Muller yesterday. The delicious Polish ladies I fucked almost a year ago was gone. There were five women there and no one was particularly delicious.

I chose the best and paid 30 Euro.

This is a clean and simple place. Nice elderly lady who welcomes you and serving drinks.

Wish there were better looking girls here.

But it may change?

I have make my first visit to Kamilla dee and I must say that is one of the best places I have been at :)

I had a1hour session with Nadine and she was amazing! I said first I wanted a massage from her and that was verg good. And then she started to suck my dick and I had very good sex with her. I will repeat her if I have a chance again. 9 Points of 10. Can anyone say anything about Klio is she good? She looks so cute so can anyone recomend her?

I have been there several time recent days. Always girls there is not that satisfying and hard to select, and almost no face change.

And today I finally choose a girl with dark skin and slim body and she said her name is Stephanie (later I check the website, seems not the girl (white skin) with pics in the web). I must say this girl is very ugly. She has many tricks to make the man uncomfortable or upset, including sudden stop and leave during the intercourse, say "What?","No!" in a very strange and louder way, and just try to keep the penis in the gate of her pussy, promote me to go to shower just after 15 mins (I have a 30 mins session).

I am not sure where this girl come from, but her skin is more like the middle east or south europe.

I complained to the housemutti, and this girl is too smarty.

Hi folks,

I'm looking for some advice please group of Guys from Manchester, very amature mongers, visiting Berlin in a couple of weeks. We are looking for a good value experience can anyone give us some guidance of where the best place is to visit. I don't think we have the cash to visit Artemis but we are really interested in the flat rate experience is it worth it and if we do go down this road what should we do to get the best experience.

Cheers

I have been here a day or so and have been very quiet. No Artemis, no SW but I have compiled a list of escorts I intend to call tomorrow and then will pick a few to try out.

Any comments as always would be appreciated.

Rates appear to be 100 Euros to 130 Euros per hour.

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/NiceNadja[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Sexy-Kyra[/url] This one seems my preferred option.

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Larrissa22[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/LuluLuestern[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/julia-sexy[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Megy23[/url]

"Party on Wayne"

[QUOTE=Mr Jones P; 1349734]Hi folks,

I'm looking for some advice please group of Guys from Manchester, very amature mongers, visiting Berlin in a couple of weeks. We are looking for a good value experience can anyone give us some guidance of where the best place is to visit. I don't think we have the cash to visit Artemis but we are really interested in the flat rate experience is it worth it and if we do go down this road what should we do to get the best experience.

Cheers[/QUOTE]There has been plenty written in the forum on this so read the thread. I will say that flat rate is just what it seems, cheap sex. Not that it can not be good but don't expect much in the way of GFE. Calligula does have some negative review but I have also heard that the girls can be reasonably good in a sexy slutty sense.

AM

[QUOTE=Mr Jones P; 1349734]Hi folks,

I'm looking for some advice please group of Guys from Manchester, very amature mongers, visiting Berlin in a couple of weeks. We are looking for a good value experience can anyone give us some guidance of where the best place is to visit. I don't think we have the cash to visit Artemis but we are really interested in the flat rate experience is it worth it and if we do go down this road what should we do to get the best experience.

I recomend this place.

[url]http://www.caligula-berlin.de/.[/url]

I spent 5 days there in August this year. Entrance is 100 euro, and that includes as much sex as you want. All drinks exept champagne are also included.

To get the maximum value you should come early. There are 2 shifts of girls. The nightshift arrives at around 8 pm.

If you arrive at 3 pm, you can stay till 4 am For 100 euro. To my surprise I found the girls in the afternoon shift more goodlooking than the nightshift.

During your stay at the club you can session with girls as many time you like. No restrictions.

There is no problem leaving the club for a while and then return, whitout paying entrance a second time.

There are some cheap places to eat nearby, so it is possible to spend 13 hours of unlimeted sex and get drunk for 100 euro.

Great value.

I also spent one day at King George, but I cannot recommend this place.

The consept and the price is the same, but this club has only one shift, so not the same variety of girls as Caligula.

I found the girls irritating. They were constantly nagging for extra money, for cigarettes, chocolate etc.

Some of them were also reluctant to session.

So just one visit at this club.

These are the two flatrate clubs I know of in central Berlin.

There is also on flatrate club near the airport. I think it is callled "Airport Muschi"

I have never been there, so I appreciate if some forum member can provide some information on this club.

[quote=dick1; 1327653]thank you angus,

my last 3 times to artemis i have been disappointed. previously i believed that this is the best fkk club in germany. but not anymore. there are many beautiful girls in other fkk clubs in germany who want to work here, but they're not allowed. it is thus a strange control who gets and who do not get work here. primarily for economic reasons where pimps control and distribute their girls.

am i the only one to think there is fewer pretty girls here?[/quote]i completely agree. had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. this egyptian / brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something, wouldn't let me touch her boobs, wouldn't sit on me facing my feet, and wouldn't even let me go at my own fucking pace! i was about to pop and she sat up and said i hate your sex, in 5 years no one does this (um, all i was doing was going a bit slower than 100% pound as fast as i can) and that she didn't like it. wtf? that was like 10 mins in. i stayed away from her nipples, i didn't make her hop on me, and she's whining because i don't pop 2 mins into a 30 min paid session, and whining about how i am fucking her missionary (not rough, just not super speed)? the manager of course takes her side and i have to pay the ****. then i get paola from spain who i pay to cim and who basically just gives me a hand job with th tip in her mouth. i hear two other girls in the kino telling the guy to hurry up when she just started sucking.

ths place is a piece of shit conveyor belt bullshit club with girls wanting a 2 second pop to run out and pressure another guy to pop and pay for it.

not how i like to be treated.

the difference between here and gt in vienna is astronomical. the difference with k5 in prague is beyond imagination.

go if you must. but avoid tatiana, or whatever her name is. but great night not guaranteed.

[QUOTE=UsaInEurope; 1350120]I completely agree. Had the worst mongoring experience of my life tonight there. This Egyptian / Brazilian big fake tits and big assed girl, t-something, wouldn't let me touch her boobs, wouldn't sit on me facing my feet, and wouldn't even let me go at my own fucking pace! Ths place is a piece of shit conveyor belt bullshit club with girls wanting a 2 second pop to run out and pressure another guy to pop and pay for it.

Go if you must. But avoid Tatiana, or whatever her name is. But great night not guaranteed.[/QUOTE]See Artemis Thread

Forgot to mention (because I am trying to forget this), I had a very disappointing session with Denise, sort of new at Liberty, used to work at Ritter / Tiffanys. Photos don't do her justice (the pix are way better) and I knew I should have passed but the old monger inertia set in. With lackluster kissing (once I think-lucky I did not blink during) and BBBJ with mostly hands and no sustained rhythm, we spent 45 min in a very pointless, professional, barely go thru the motions (even though she would rather be shopping) time. GFE morphed to Godzilla Feeding Experience. I will not again.

What a high end classy place this is.

The doorbell is clearly marked Royal, and I'm buzzed in and walk up to the second floor, about 11:30 Mon.

A thin small woman greets me and sends in the lineup. Flora is the first one through the door and I get a good vibe about her. About 4 others come in and I choose Flora.

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/berliner-bordell-royal-modelle.html[/url]

She doesn't speak any English and I don't speak german. The host made sure this was ok with me and helped negotiate an hour plus 20 for kissing. Flora then shows me the bathroom, I shower, and her eyes eat me up when I disrobe. We meet kneeling on the bed and just make out, exploring tongues, hands roaming. I lie her down after taking off her bra and kiss her all the way down and she ends up soaking my whole face rubbing herself on it. Really got off.

Then she reciprocated with a great soft slow CBJ and climbed on top. Clearly not fucking to get me off quickly but to enjoy it herself. After a long time in many positions, I pop the first time then she gives a massage. After a few minutes I want to play with her some more and rub her back and front. Which she stops suddenly to put another condom on and we get off off in spoon position.

Then the hour is up and she kisses me goodbye. Saying it was "su-pah."

The apartment is so well and classily decorated, care taken beforehand to make sure the session would be good.

I'm definitely going back tomorrow.

MY new NUCLEAR weapon of choice for mongering are the internet language teaching sites. Lined up 4 Romanian / Moldovan hotties in Berlin this week and next week am heading to Rome for 5 more and then Bucharest before Christmas where I have 10 on the hook. Fucking easy peasy.

Will advise on how it goes.

Will report when I have time. About the kaufmich. Com girls I have tried (and tried to try if that makes sense)

I rang many girls from the Kaufmich website including the aforementioned Eva 25 (sessioned with) and the following ratty lot

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/NiceNadja[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Sexy-Kyra[/url] This one seems my preferred option.

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Larrissa22[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/LuluLuestern[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/julia-sexy[/url]

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/Megy23[/url]

Nice Nadja. No answers no return calls = no go.

Sexy Kyra (doubt from her voice if she is the one in the pic. Got a sharky vibe and declined) no go.

Larissa. Meh, sessioned with her this weekend and was really really upset 11/100. Fucking Moldovan ****.

Lulu. Looks a little worse for wear but was a great fuck and suck. Few hundred Euros for 2 hours. Repeat = nope. I prefer Artemis 55/100.

Julia. Of the pnematic, very plastic body and hard face. Expensive at 150 E per hour. Cut the session short because she smelled and was using her hands and not mouth to blow me. 25/100.

Megy. Much better looking in the flesh. Fucking hot but more of a go out to dinner GFE than a DATY / BBBJ GFE. Paid her a shit load for 4 hours but she eventaully fucked and sucked me dry. Great girl and super nice. Definite repeat when I like setting my money on fire 84/100 minus 50 for $$$$$ = 34/100

Great girl. Chunky but pretty IMHO.

Met her for only 90 minutes for around 200E all up with my extras. Well worth the loot and the pick of the Kaufmich binch I tried after a hard days night (well 4 days of work) 88/100.

Hey guys.

I'm not geting it why you spend so much money for them?

Why you not ask a local like me where to go or get advices, why you not go the the flatrate brothel you pay here 100 Eur and you stay eat and fuck so much you want.

Ok the girls looks nice from "kauf mich" not question, but so much money for 1 dame hour?

I have just started a new Threat with Massage in Berlin " Thai Massage Berlin " there you get also massage from Russian chicks too looking same like in kauf mich but cost only the half.

Of if you just want spend you load why you not go to one on the street they fuck with you for around 20 Eur and you can get on 24h like on Kurfuersten Str. (Kurfürsten Str.) there you get one, and go the the sex shop (LSD) to a cabin and while you watch a porn movie you get a BJ or a fuck. There are around 30-50 girls (not only on Kurfuersten Str. You have to drive in the smaler streets also inside)

Have fun

I've been here and it was a weird bunch.

When I'm picky, only one of the ladies I thought was delicious.

Is there some really super sexy ladies who work here?

What names should I look for?

Erlebniswohnung has it's own thread in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum. Maybe you should ask your questions there or maybe reading some of the reports might be helpful too.

[QUOTE=Fawn The Guyver;1351099]why you not go the the flatrate brothel you pay here 100 Eur and you stay eat and fuck so much you want.[/QUOTE]Because masturbation + pizza at home is better than sex + alcohol at King George and Caligula. There are more positive emotions in the garlic and ham, compared to the eyes + spirit of the flatrate girls from Romania.

[QUOTE=Fawn The Guyver;1351099]why you not go the the flatrate brothel you pay here 100 Eur and you stay eat and fuck so much you want.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Zimmerbaby;1351362]Because masturbation + pizza at home is better than sex + alcohol at King George and Caligula. There are more positive emotions in the garlic and ham, compared to the eyes + spirit of the flatrate girls from Romania.[/QUOTE]LOL. Cool remark, Zimmerbaby.

I don't know anything about the Partytreff scene in Berlin, but if they are as bad as your reply suggests, then pizza & pornmovie might indeed be better.

But the flatrate places in Berlin can't all be bad. From what I'm reading in it's thread, Erlebniswohnung seems to be a great place. I can't quite believe that they are the only ones worth going to in such a big city.

I've been visiting several GBs in Berlin, and they are generally good / very good, but I'm emotionally disturbed when I see the girls eyes at the mentioned places (C + KG). No feeling of happiness for me, cause they have this dead eyes / looks. Maybe I think too much.

I know what you mean. I had one in Krefeld last week, Monika, who was exactly like that. Physically there, but actually miles away.

But the only romanian at that party, Karina, was great; hot & horny. Maybe the bad romanians have all gone to Berlin?

[QUOTE=Fawn The Guyver; 1351099]Hey guys.

I'm not geting it why you spend so much money for them?

Why you not ask a local like me where to go or get advices, why you not go the the flatrate brothel you pay here 100 Eur and you stay eat and fuck so much you want.

Ok the girls looks nice from "kauf mich" not question, but so much money for 1 dame hour?

I have just started a new Threat with Massage in Berlin " Thai Massage Berlin " there you get also massage from Russian chicks too looking same like in kauf mich but cost only the half.

Of if you just want spend you load why you not go to one on the street they fuck with you for around 20 Eur and you can get on 24h like on Kurfuersten Str. (Kurfürsten Str.) there you get one, and go the the sex shop (LSD) to a cabin and while you watch a porn movie you get a BJ or a fuck. There are around 30-50 girls (not only on Kurfuersten Str. You have to drive in the smaler streets also inside)

Have fun[/QUOTE]Variety is the spice of life mate. Did Kurfursenstrasse (spelling?) etc. Thought I would try the escorts who as you say are over-priced underwhelming. But all I lost was some time, sperm, pride and a few spondoolies.

My next game is on though. I am learning a few languages on [url]www.livemocha.com[/url] And there are women galore looking for nice foreign men. I have several nice freebie types lined up. Will report and if worthwhile advise on exact women. I am targeting Romanian lasses living around Europe who can teach me bit of their language and I give them some English TIPS.

Well worth the free registration to learn a new language and possible hook ups.

[QUOTE=SwingerLover;1351387]But the flatrate places in Berlin can't all be bad. From what I'm reading in it's thread, Erlebniswohnung seems to be a great place. I can't quite believe that they are the only ones worth going to in such a big city.[/QUOTE]I really think it depends on your taste. These flat rates are never (or rarely) top girls and the the sex is unlikely to be GFE. But go in not expecting to meet super models and with the desire to fuck and this is what you will find. I also think that if you like GB there are always the more indy GB apartments to be explored. You can find them in the GB section of the Berlinintim website.

AM

I have been once in King George and I would not recommend the experience at all. Got there at about 6 pm, when you get in the owner (or anyway the man at entrance) offers you two choices. 50 euros for 1 hour stay or 100 euros for whole stay until closure. If you want (this is actually quite good) you can pay the first 50 euros and than decide. So please guys, my opinion is my opinion, if you want to check by yourself it's not so expansive to give it a try. Anyway I get in and there are 6/7 girls. One really nice, long black hair and hot ass. Another with a nice body, a MILF, and the other were a little. How can I say. BBW. You can drink as much as you want, this is true, also beer and whisky or wodka, there is always one of the girls at the bar, and they also do lap dance. So basically the atmosphere is the same as a night club, but girls do not approach you, at least not to me and to the other customer witch got in with me. If you want to fuck you just call them. I did it with the long black haired hot ass girl witch turned to be Romanian, as most of the others. She offered uncovered blowjob for 10 euros extra. Now, this was not certainly the first time for me in such a place, I mean, first time in a flatrate but not in a brothel, so I knew I should have paid those 10 euros to have a better experience because even if they get paid for every time they go with a customer from the club, I don't think that is much money and that extra is important to her. But I wanted to see how it really is without the extra, I wanted to see if you can fuck like 4/5 girls, in a few hours, drinking as much as you want for only 100 euros because this is so similar to my idea of heaven.

Anyway if you go, pay the 10 euros extra, otherwise performance is very low. After the hour, having fucked the only two nice girls inside (both experiences very bad) I was going to leave when another hot chick came by the door, and here I understood how it really works. You will never find more than 3 girls you would like to fuck, one or two when you arrive, and when you think there is no reason to remain anymore another hot comes in, and you think "well, I can fuck her and than maybe other will come" but I don't thing it's going to happen. So basically you spend 100 euros plus, we can suppose. 10 euros every fuck for uncovered blowjob to have a service at least decent. Total 130 euros for 3 fucks. In normal brothels, at least most of them, a quick fuck (that anyway for me has always been much better than the ones in flatrates) is 35 euros for 20 mins. So 3 fucks are just 105 euros, and you can choose between many other girls, sometimes you also get an analcoholic drink for free. End of the story, if it is too good to be true, it isn't.

[QUOTE=Bassani; 1351569]I have been once in King George and I would not recommend the experience at all. Sometimes you also get an analcoholic drink for free. [/QUOTE]

Well I would not drink this even if you paid me.

This is a prime example of what the Germans call "ein Siggy", as in a (Sigmund) Freudian slip. And you cannot say it is due to the proximity of the "u", "a", and "n" keys on any keyboard, as they ain't. ;)

As probably managed by the same people and close one each other, both La Dolce Vita I (Donaustrasse 130) than La Dolce Vita II (Pannierstrasse 27) can fit in one review. Actually the first one, even if both's websites state they are open 24hrs. Is often closed after 10 pm The pictures on the website are absolutely real, girls are ok, some really hot but I think in these situations there are other things to consider than beauty. Number of girls changes a lot, basically some stay from Thursday till Sunday some other from Monday till Thursday divided in shifts, when the Dolce Vita I closes some girls go into the other, witch has a nightclub by the side, where all girls work as well. Basically if want to see all of them in a place you enter the night, if you want the classic defilee in the brothel you enter La Dolce Vita II, but ladies are the same. Prices start from 35 euros for the quickie. 50 euros half an hours, and so on. Extras depending on the girl, and also on feeling, once I had uncovered blow job plus passionate sex in many position with hot Claudia, witch still works there, just for 35. Many girls come from Poland, Turkey, Bulgaria. If you like high standard, maybe this is not the place as you can find many brothels starting from 80 euros but also where fun is guaranteed. But the price worth the rate, and any experience is different, sometimes you go home with a smile, some others not, if you have never been there, have a look!

Fellow Mongers,

I will be in Europe during the 1st week for business and decided to stay back for 5 days for my 1st mongering experience. I was getting very high fare from Berlin so I decided to fly back home from Vienna. What I read on some forms is that winters are very unpleasant in Berlin which is why I was wondering if I should go to Berlin for 3 of those 5 days. I am not sure if vienna will be any different weather wise and I do not know if I will be able to find stuff other than mongering to keep me busy for 5 days in Vienna. I really wanted to visit Berlin for the things it has to offer besides mongering I. E. Nightlife, culture etc. Would be really helpful if fellow mongers can comment on how unpleasant winters are in Berlin and if I will be able to party and do touristy stuff at this time of the year.

NewbieMonger

[QUOTE=NewbieMonger; 1352384]Would be really helpful if fellow mongers can comment on how unpleasant winters are in Berlin and if I will be able to party and do touristy stuff at this time of the year.

NewbieMonger[/QUOTE]I am not sure what your criteria for stay at home weather would be? I can say that Berlin in the winter is not that bad. Unless sitting in outdoor cafes is top of your list of things you like to do. Even then many cafes will have heaters and tents to keep the patio open. Winter weather in Berlin is grey and some say dismal. On occasion (usually after the new year) we have snow that makes the city difficult for a time, mainly because there is never enough snow that the city gets truly prepared. Early Dec. It is unlikely to have snow but it could of course happen. Especially as the end of the world (Dec. 21st.) approaches...

AM

[QUOTE=NewbieMonger; 1352384]Would be really helpful if fellow mongers can comment on how unpleasant winters are in Berlin and if I will be able to party and do touristy stuff at this time of the year.[/QUOTE]Of course-not an issue. I would not worry about it.

Weather will be similar in Vienna in any case-look at wunderground or wiki the cities to compare climates. If flight costs an issue then you use another hub with lots of cheap (eg Easyjet) flights to Berlin like Amsterdam (the best airport) , Paris, or Frankfurt (avoid London as they do have problems in winter). The other hubs could in a pinch be reached by train if there is some unlikely freak storm in Dec. Berlin much bigger, more cutting edge culture, many (many) more mongering options. Has very good, easy transit system which, apart from the S-Bahn sometimes, works reasonably well even in bad weather, so getting around easy even to the big clubs in the east. Past mid Dec it can snow anywhere in northern Europe, though heavier storms tend to start in January. Like anywhere, it can disrupt trains and planes so you need to keep an eye on it when changing cities or catching flights.

But Berlin itself can cope fine. We have indoor heating, and in winter most people prefer sex indoors.

IMHO Berlin Wien but both are fun. For me there is more to do in Berlin, such a great artsy city, great bars and very friendly people.

(Oh I am awaiting an avalanche from those who live in the "World's Most Liveable City")

Some new girls at Monrouge (or at least new pictures on the site) , at a first look not particularly interesting for my tastes, but might decide to drop in next week.

Ciao.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1353789]Some new girls at Monrouge (or at least new pictures on the site) , at a first look not particularly interesting for my tastes, but might decide to drop in next week.

Ciao.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Dunno Kimino but for the price I personally would head to Royal where they also have a number of comely looking newbie nubiles who might actually be available. If I am not mistaken Kasia might be to your taste?

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/berlin-sexkontakte-bordell.html[/url]

AM

Three days in Berlin.

The plan:

First, I wanted to do at least one of my favorite brothels: Monrouge, Liberty or Royal and perhaps some new place.

2nd, At least one Thai massage with accessories.

3rd, Book escort to the hotel, never tried, would be made.

4th, Look at street supply.

5th, Artemis, My first visit.

Three days were booked and here is the result:

Day 1.

Arriving by air, take the train to town, walk through the sunny Berlin to my hotel which is located at Ku'damm. Have a girl booked into the hotel till 15:00. Made arrangements via kaufmich. De:

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/kleinegeilejenny[/url]

Coming to the hotel, check in, unpack and start the computer. Bad news follows.Woe and horror! My date's canceled, she blames on sudden illness. My next date I have bookedat19. So I pull on my coat and walk out on the town. Encounter pretty soon at:

[url]http://www.anan-thaimassage.de/[/url]

B2B with chubby Colombian woman about 35-40, 100euro. She does a good job, calm and sensual body massage. She is not quite what I was looking for so I refuse the hand job at the end, to save me for later.

Go instead to the Kamilla la dee, lying on reasonable walking distance. There are about 5 available girls of which I choose:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/1-sexy_girls/franci.htm[/url]

She looks much better in real life, I do not know how they've managed to foul to her on the website. She looks better here:

[url]http://www.kamilla-dee.com/bizarre_spiele/miss-francis.htm[/url]

If you like the sporty type then you have found the right girl here. Unfortunately she has implants. Luckily no grotesque ones, not a gram of fat on the body and are in excellent physical state. Apparently, she competed in both the skateboard and snowboard. I paid 120 euros for 45 minutes and it was a real jackpot, super hot and committed woman who made me feel like a king during this time. The fact that she was good at English and was really interesting to get to know each added plus. She apparently runs Sundays and Tuesdays at KD, well worth a visit.

Moreover, it was my third visit to KD but the first time I find a girl I like.

Now the clock was close to 17:00, so I go to the hotel, have some dinner, and got myself ready for the next hotel visitor:

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/JuvelaEscort[/url]

That shows up punctually and proves to be a real dream, both in appearance and manner. I have paid for an hour. 150euro, though this includes some time at the bar for a drink and some chating. After sex, so we're talking too for a while, so all in all our date takes about 2 hours.

Juvela is an incredibly nice, open and social girl who knows how to converse and get you to feel good. The sex was intense and fun, very good experience. Money well spent, absolutely!

Incidentally, I think kaufmich. De was a very good site for girl contacts, I got responses from several, so it could have been that I stayed in hotel the whole time. There seems to be no fake photos or other nonsense on this webpage.

Day 1 – End.

Day 2.

Would be my 'day of brothels' as it was planed. But I'm starting by walking to Nollendorferplatz and go once around the neighborhoods in which to look a bit on streetwalkers As usual, a bit worn bunch but two girls stood out as very sexy. Unfortunately, I know from personal experience that the service is often worse than the worst and have no car then you are directed to their site, and then there will be extra cost So I moved on. I was a little tired, so I decided to take the subway to brothel. Lamour, a middle class brothel that according to some forums can offer really good looking Eastern European girls if you're lucky.

I had no luck, the only available girls where four heavyweight champions, so I said thank you, but no, and left. Back to the subway, thinking that Monrouge would be my next stop, but felt that no, it's time for some Asian pleasure. On the web I have long longed for:

[url]http://www.yokomassagen.de/[/url]

Which got me on your toes every time I looked at the website. So more subway. Once at the address indicated. They have moved, new address was on the notice on the door. Unfortunately, I went there. Only to find that business is conducted by only one woman, about 30. Maybe Japanese descent. Certainly good in every way, but she offered only tantra, no sex. So I gave up and took the subway again. Unfortunately, the whole day had run away so I decide to play safe and go to:

[url]http://www.siramanee.de/team.html[/url]

I have been here before and received good service by young, attractive Thai. I'll knock on door and let in by an old lady, she says that all the girls are busy but that she can massage me 10 minutes until one of them becomes available. Well, I think, this is today's last chance to get lucky and I accept her offer. So I'm shown to a room where I was asked to undress and I get massage.

She, So she called herself, turns out to be really fun and talking a lot in almost incomprehensible English. But her massage is probably the best I have encountered, and then I have some experience of Thai massage. 10 minutes becomes 20 and then 30, now she asks if I want to meet the young girl or if I want to have another 30 minutes massage and then meet the young girl. I decide to take more massage and to get the girl to wait, feel quite right somehow. 1 hour massage 50euro. Then the younger girl comes and taking over, she asks what I want and what I want to pay. Slightly surprised over her method of doing business, I say that I want to have sex and are willing to pay her 50 Euros. She accepts slightly doubtful. But then she undresses and shows off an amazing fine 25-30 year old Thai body. We start the session, but after a while when she understands that I'm not there for a quickie, she wants to renegotiate the price. So we quickly agreed on 80 euros for half an hour. The session lasted just over 30 min and it became a really nice time. In the picture is the girl on the far right, Ann, I think she called herself.

Day 2 End.

Day 3.

Artemis, see separate report:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1353064&viewfull=1#post1353064[/url]

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1353795]Dunno Kimino but for the price I personally would head to Royal where they also have a number of comely looking newbie nubiles who might actually be available. If I am not mistaken Kasia might be to your taste?

[url]http://www.royalgirl.de/bordell-berlin/berlin-sexkontakte-bordell.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]Ahah, definitely!

Thanks

[QUOTE=Elve65; 1353910]Three days in Berlin.

Day 1.

Arriving by air, take the train to town, walk through the sunny Berlin to my hotel which is located at Ku'damm. Have a girl booked into the hotel till 15:00. Made arrangements via kaufmich. De:

[url]http://www.kaufmich.com/kleinegeilejenny[/url]

Coming to the hotel, check in, unpack and start the computer. Bad news follows. Woe and horror! My date's canceled, she blames on sudden illness. My next date I have bookedat19. So I pull on my coat and walk out on the town. Encounter pretty soon at:

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin&p=1353064&viewfull=1#post1353064[/url][/QUOTE]I tried to boook this Jenny as well a few months back but she cancelled. Anyway, a mate said she looks so strung out in person, like a long term user of somewhat less than savory things.

Great report though and thanks. Glad you got some beauties from Kaufmich. I found it a bit hit and miss.

[QUOTE=Elve65; 1353910][url]http://www.siramanee.de/team.html[/url]

I have been here before and received good service by young, attractive Thai. I'll knock on door and let in by an old lady, she says that all the girls are busy but that she can massage me 10 minutes until one of them becomes available. Well, I think, this is today's last chance to get lucky and I accept her offer. So I'm shown to a room where I was asked to undress and I get massage.

She, So she called herself, turns out to be really fun and talking a lot in almost incomprehensible English. But her massage is probably the best I have encountered, and then I have some experience of Thai massage. 10 minutes becomes 20 and then 30, now she asks if I want to meet the young girl or if I want to have another 30 minutes massage and then meet the young girl. I decide to take more massage and to get the girl to wait, feel quite right somehow. 1 hour massage 50euro. Then the younger girl comes and taking over, she asks what I want and what I want to pay. Slightly surprised over her method of doing business, I say that I want to have sex and are willing to pay her 50 Euros. She accepts slightly doubtful. But then she undresses and shows off an amazing fine 25-30 year old Thai body. We start the session, but after a while when she understands that I'm not there for a quickie, she wants to renegotiate the price. So we quickly agreed on 80 euros for half an hour. The session lasted just over 30 min and it became a really nice time. In the picture is the girl on the far right, Ann, I think she called herself.

[/url][/QUOTE]In this visit and previous visit was massage girl nude during massage and was mutual massage / touch allowed prior to sex negotiation?

I'll be visiting Berlin around New Years Eve this year, and I was wondering if anyone can tell me what it will be like? I planned to visit King George, but I don't know if it's going to be exceptionally busy around this time of year. I assume it will. I'll probably be in town a few days before and after NYE, so I probably wouldn't be going New Years Eve or Day, and I can go during the day so maybe it will be OK?

Hello,

I live in Berlin. I have not mongered before. But am interested in trying it out. I must confess however that I have a phobia of diseases. Std's and such. I take very very good care of my body.

What I'm wondering is if any of you experts can suggest a place that runs a very low low risk of contracting anything. I realize that std's are a risk that many people take when doing this sort of thing. But if there was a safe side. Is there one in Berlin?

Cheers and thanks!

D

I am in Berlin for a couple days and look for some fun. Does anyone know or have a recommendation for a tabulos / AO (without rubber) escort in Berlin? I am open to age, looks, etc. You can connect me privately on here.

[QUOTE=Diet Coke;1354006]In this visit and previous visit was massage girl nude during massage and was mutual massage / touch allowed prior to sex negotiation?[/QUOTE]Well, the massagepart of session was like any ordinary massagesession. If you order B2B, then I suppose clothes are excluded. If you want extra besides massage I think it's smarter to ask the girl first. Myself, I never touch the girl prior to ended negotiation, service and price. I respect females to much to start touching them before I know it's OK! Allmost every girl perform extras in these places, but not all, so behave like a gentleman.

E65

I am in Berlin on business for the next couple days. Would anyone have a recommendation for a no taboo escort? I understand concerns and risks, but appreciate any help.

[QUOTE=Mjmtn303;1354371]I am in Berlin on business for the next couple days. Would anyone have a recommendation for a no taboo escort? I understand concerns and risks, but appreciate any help.[/QUOTE]Here you go. Can not vouch for the levels of service.

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/extras/AO+-+Tabulos.html[/url]

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1354377]Here you go. Can not vouch for the levels of service.

[url]http://www.6escortgirls.com/extras/AO+-+Tabulos.html[/url]

AM[/QUOTE]I will check it out. Was also wondering, if anyone had personal experience or recommendations of any girls.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz; 1354253]Hello,

I live in Berlin. I have not mongered before. But am interested in trying it out. I must confess however that I have a phobia of diseases. Std's and such. I take very very good care of my body.

What I'm wondering is if any of you experts can suggest a place that runs a very low low risk of contracting anything. I realize that std's are a risk that many people take when doing this sort of thing. But if there was a safe side. Is there one in Berlin?

Cheers and thanks!

D[/QUOTE]Yes mate. Seriously. Jerk off to videos from pornhub. Com.

I know of no way to avoid STDs unless you become celibate. I have been in high risk sitautions MANY times and contracted nothing and extremely low risk times and have been sick as a mongrel dog for months.

[QUOTE=DethManRulz; 1354253]I must confess however that I have a phobia of diseases. Std's and such. I take very very good care of my body.

What I'm wondering is if any of you experts can suggest a place that runs a very low low risk of contracting anything. I realize that std's are a risk that many people take when doing this sort of thing. But if there was a safe side. Is there one in Berlin?[/QUOTE]DMR-you obviously know the obvious answer here. Nothing is safe except staying indoors and wanking with surgical gloves soaked in antiseptic gel. But if you have only germs on the brain, you will be distracted. You could also ring ahead and ask who are the safest,cleanest girls (don't).

If you don't kiss, don't go down on a girl, wear a condom during blow jobs, and especially during sex, and wash all parts and hands afterwards, the odds of any problems occurring go down. Needless to say, so does the fun and pleasure and intimacy. So much so that you get into what's the point (or even Norjan) territory. Which of these boundaries you decide to relax is a matter of choice. We all do it.

It is common practice at the better places that if a girl likes you you will get kisses of varied intensity depending upon the chemistry between you, and a BBBJ, and she will likely let you lick her to oblivion. What you don't want to do is give off some paranoid vibe while you are with a girl and ruin all for both of you, so just get prepared for what you will and won't do and discuss it calmly before things get going. (And then of course when some hot girl has pressed her lips on yours and her tongue is down your throat and then takes your throbbing member deep down hers, you can chuck all these rules and understandings out the window). Woody Allen was once asked if he thought sex was dirty-he replied "only if done properly".

But, with some common sense, the better bordellos like van Kampen, Royal, Prestige, KD, Liberty, Mon Rouge should be fine, and you will have to just feel out the vibe if and when. Artemis probably ok though the shear volume of greater traffic per girl is a factor against. Germans more than most are obsessed by cleanliness and hygene, and all these places have periodic medical inspections of their staffs (for whatever that's worth, not foolproof, but far better than nothing). Probably a good idea also not to follow in the footsteps of Mjmtn303, as posted below.

KD is the obvious and answer and so much less complicated. They do have a pretty strict policy of cover everything.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1354546]KD is the obvious and answer and so much less complicated. They do have a pretty strict policy of cover everything.AM[/QUOTE]Well sort of. But that policy is very far from strict (trust me) , and is much like Stephen Colbert's notion of "truthiness".

You can't say the other top bordellos are any different really, as it will all depend on the girls and the other mongers (and whatever they are packing) in a given moment. So the complications, and choices remain. It really is a question of how germ-obsessed a monger is, and what risks he is prepared to run. Better to know...But the top 6 bordellos are IMHO fine and one must just use common sense. Who knows really if there many germs in Germany? :eek:

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1354566]Well sort of. But that policy is very far from strict[/QUOTE]Well if he were asking where can he go an guarantee "safe" you would be correct. I am well aware that even KD is not 100% free from BBBJ. But he asked the safest house. KD has an official policy of no BBBJ plus a high base price. Thus it stands to reason that statistically it will be the "safest" bordello. The guy wasn't asking for a break down on risk assessment. As in all things-K. I. S. S.

AM

[QUOTE=Angus Magee;1354613]Well if he were asking where can he go an guarantee "safe" you would be correct. The guy wasn't asking for a break down on risk assessment. As in all things-K. I. S. S.AM[/QUOTE]Angus I am chocking this grumpiness up to the bad weather we have at the mo, or a dangerous sperm level build up. As a former Berliner once said,"everything should be as simple as possible, but not simpler (Albert Einstein, the founder of the Einstein Cafe chain, amongst other activities).

We are just splitting pubic hairs here. Alls I am saying is, the "stats" and policies really don't mean a (w)hole lot, given the real world behaviours and all the other factors and unknowns present. If a new monger is concerned about it, the risks are basically the same in all the better places. He just needs to decide if and how he will modify various desires to deal with them. One should not be lulled into thinking simply, go "there" and all will be well. And, if while looking at the offerings at the other bordello's websites, our germ free monger finds hotter prospects elsewhere than at KD, IMHO he should go for it, and just use common sense. In the end, he will have to find his own comfort zone, as must we all.

But I am giving you the last word on this, yes theoretically, KD is, slightly, the relatively safer bet. Amen.

I'm going to Berlin on March.

As a monger, I'm after a swingerclub with [b]paid women[/b]

I'll be in Berlin on March and as a monger I'm after a swinger club with [B]paid women[/B]. I'm specifically interested in group sex sessions.

[QUOTE=Husseine57;1354652]I'll be in Berlin on March and as a monger I'm after a swinger club with [B]paid women[/B]. I'm specifically interested in group sex sessions.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything about the Swingerclub scene in Berlin. But if you are interested in group sex sessions you might want to give the Partytreffs a try. Like Erlebniswohnung for instance. (Read up in the Erlebniswohnung thread in the Germany Partytreff Clubs forum.) According to website 6 to 12 hours for 70 to 100 Euros with 8 to 12 girls, depending on the day and the time of day.

Another option would be the Pornfighterlongjohn events. SooNice has written an excellent report in the Bareback AO thread about his visit there on November 23rd.

[url]www.pornfighterlongjohn.com[/url]

[url]http://erlebniswohnung.com[/url]

[QUOTE=Husseine57;1354643]I'm going to Berlin on March.As a monger, I'm after a swingerclub with [b]paid women[/b][/QUOTE]Beyond Erlebniswohnung, see Germany Party Treff thread INSOMNIA-all you could ever want (and even more) , Thursday nights.

[QUOTE=Rocketboy0;1355035]Beyond Erlebniswohnung, see Germany Party Treff thread INSOMNIA-all you could ever want (and even more) , Thursday nights.[/QUOTE]I am not sure if there is any paid woman there. Thanks anyways

[QUOTE=Husseine57;1355087]I am not sure if there is any paid woman there. Thanks anyways[/QUOTE]Most definitely that night-every Thursday (possibly Sunday as well). Paid poon to swell the ranks and increase the pop ops. Wanking would confirm if you want to PM him

Can you suggest something. Most time, the talk between me and the girl is just like Q&A. Also I ever met some girls are reluctant to talk sth, especially her age, birth place, even " how many fucks you have today".

[QUOTE=Brasil007;1355665]Can you suggest something. Most time, the talk between me and the girl is just like Q&A. Also I ever met some girls are reluctant to talk sth, especially her age, birth place, even " how many fucks you have today".[/QUOTE]This reminds me of a Monthy Pithon movie where a restaurant was giving out bright conversations cheat sheets for their guests, can't remember the name of the movie but it was hilarious. LOL.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1355808]This reminds me of a Monthy Pithon movie where a restaurant was giving out bright conversations cheat sheets for their guests, can't remember the name of the movie but it was hilarious. LOL.

Kimino[/QUOTE]The Meaning of Life Perhaps?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkp7f8IxJNU[/url]

In any case I don't know what to suggest as as to what to talk about. Just talk about what comes up or not at all depending on the girl. I mean not all girls are chatty and conversation, such as it is in a paid sex encounter, just depends upon the situation, the girl and any common interests you might happen to find. In other words, you wing it and if conversation is stilted, put your dick in her mouth.

AM

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1355808]This reminds me of a Monthy Pithon movie where a restaurant was giving out bright conversations cheat sheets for their guests, can't remember the name of the movie but it was hilarious. LOL.

Kimino[/QUOTE]You guys obviously don't understand women. If there is one subject that will warm their hearts, it is SHOPPING. You could ask-"where is the best place to buy clothes in Berlin". If you are a cross dresser, even better. Just wait til after the session because once you open this Pandora's box, it will be difficult to get a word (or anything else) in.

Seriously, neither you nor they are there to talk anyway. And asking how many times she has had sex that day probably a good subject to avoid. Just below- "when was the last time you had an STD test and what were the results?" You could ask what she enjoys most seeing or doing in Berlin. Even though we know it is shopping, it might lead to chat about clubs or music or some museum. Is this her only job, or is she studying, or working on the side as an investment banker? Or what are her plans for the End of the World on 21 Dec? Would she consider freebees that day?

RB has a standing routine with a lass at the Love Bahnhoff precisely because of how ludicrous small talk can be. We always greet each other like this: I look at her, raise my eyebrows and say literally "blah blah?" She replies back verbatim: " blah blah blah". And up the stairs we go. We actually do talk, but later. Sometimes weeks later.

With these girls, be realistic. The only thing you have in common is that you both will be using your genetilia for a brief length of time. Beyond that, either you click or you don't on some other level. Don't think or worry about it, just go with the flow.

[QUOTE=Angus Magee; 1355823]In other words, you wing it and if conversation is stilted, put your dick in her mouth.

AM[/QUOTE]Angus I knew it; at the end of the day, dass Dude is an incurable romantic.

However in this case, as Brasil007 may feel a bit tongue-tied, it might be better if he were to head downtown, and put that quiet tongue to better uses.

after long planning made special 3 day tour of germany for punting. first two were in berlin and last day in frankfurt.

11/16. arrived at txl and straight to artemis. had great time there as reported in that forum.

back to hotel at night, had been planning fulfiling rimming and natursekt fantasy and had maxi at ophelia escorts in mind. called the agent, but maxi was not available that night. he suggested zlatka. i didn't fancy the pix so much but the ns desire gave in. zlatka arrived around 10 at night while i was filling my tank with water. very avearge looks, couple of notches below photos and is heavier than she appears in pixs. anyway agreed to 170e (120 for escort hr + 50 for rimming and ns). she doesn't take ns in mouth so started by unloading on her boobs and chest. after long fantiasizing about this, realized it is not all that different than peeing on a wall. washed and back on bed, got some ok bbj and then signaled for rimming. never tried it before so have no benchmark but it didn't feel all that exciting. maybe her technique or whatever. back to bbj and then finished in doggy. very uninspired session. partly because i wasnt too much into her and partly the fantasies didn't seem all that great. she speaks little english enough to get by. generally she is compliant and performs what you ask.

11/17. to start the morning i had prearranged for marianna for massage (prostate) session thru kira. called and confirmed the night before. she arrived promptly at 8am. nice tall girl, a bit on older side (30+). very professional, friendly and good to talk to. we got down to business. the performance from her was with the usual german effciency. massage was ok but nothing erotic. prostate business felt uncomfortable (my first) and told her to stop. she tried again with more lube and gently. didn't really feel anything erotic from it. just had to hold my guts because i was worried about pooping due to all the pressure. she started the bbj, a bit toothy and somewhat mechanical. she then rode me cowgirl and finished. was an ok session and can put prostate business behind me now.

afternoon was spent at erlebniswohnung and was a disaster for me as reported on the thread.

at night unsatisfied from the day was contemplating going to artemis again, but ns got better of me again. called up ophelia for maxi. she was available and came at 10pm. better looking girl but nothing like the website. she has red hair now and lot more tatoos it seems. no english so we talked via google translate. she offers sklavia with all the gear and includes ns and rimming, anal in the 100 e package. opted for it to try sklavia and paid 220e. she has quite an interesting, playful personality and really gets into it. started with ns with mouth this time. again didn't do much for me and finally i have gotten it of my system. back on bed, she showed me all the gear. tried some whipping spanking etc but didn't like it much. so back to bbj, which was great followed by good rimming. she gets into this stuff. signaled for doggy and then anal. still trying to overcome the erlebnis phobia, was having a hard time finishing. backed out and she positioned herself to do her mouth. she started deep throating and i went a little rough doing her in the mouth. got me finished in her mouth. overall a much better session. not the hottest looking girl but has a great attitude. i think it can be a lot more fun if you can speak german.

last day was spent at oase and palace as reported on those threads.

overall the trip was great and got some of the fantasies out of my system. really like the fkk concept and will stick to that for some time.

[QUOTE=Lucknow;1355951]After long planning made special 3 day tour of Germany for punting.[/QUOTE]L-glad you got all this out of your system, the highs and the lows, the dry and the wet. Very impressive mixing it all up. It may be quite difficult to resume normal civilian life, after 3 such jam-packed actions days in die Pussyland.

Before meeting up with the boys as mentioned in Artemis thread, I decided to test once more Liberty. Basically because it was very close to my hotel. Arrived there around 12:30. I was very surprised by the lineup. I was shown 12 girls. 3 black girls, not my cup of tea but I recall somebody asking about this recently, the rest all doable except a couple, and then 2 real cuties. Natasha and Kris (or Chris). Choosed Kris, from Berlin. Blonde, tall, tatoos. Real fun girl, we setted for 40 min. 80 euro plus 20 for kissing. Took a shower, was offered to drink and then had a very intense session with Kris. She loves looking in the mirror while fucking or sucking, kind of PSE. I asked if she did cim and she answered she like but it was an extra. I asked how much it was and she answered "up to you, no problem", after ending I paid her 50 (a la Artemis) and she was happy about it. For sure could have gien her less but WTF.

Yeah the name is Chris, here is the link.

[url]http://liberty-berlin.de/chris.html[/url]

Anyways, very good impression about Liberty.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1357235]3 black girls, not my cup of tea but I recall somebody asking about this recently,

Kimino[/QUOTE]I guess two of the three were Linda (Haiti) and Justin (forgotten, but I believe also Carribean or surroundings). But essentially they're both locals. Both good but not outstanding. Both do good DFK. They have been there on and off for years.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1357235]I asked if she did cim and she answered she like but it was an extra. I asked how much it was and she answered "up to you, no problem", after ending I paid her 50 (a la Artemis) and she was happy about it. For sure could have gien her less but WTF.

Kimino[/QUOTE]BTW that was a big tip, it's usually 20. She surely liked you then. It's only at FKKs where they have an outrageous 50 for that. BTW that's also one main reason why 90 % or more of FKK girls will do it, and maybe 20 % or less apartment girls. Same story, adjusted numbers for anal.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1357868]BTW that was a big tip, it's usually 20. She surely liked you then. It's only at FKKs where they have an outrageous 50 for that. BTW that's also one main reason why 90 % or more of FKK girls will do it, and maybe 20 % or less apartment girls. Same story, adjusted numbers for anal.[/QUOTE]As I remember and according to the website BBBJ (FO) is €20 extra and BBBJCIM (FT) is €30.

[QUOTE=Neutron Flux;1357868]BTW that was a big tip, it's usually 20. She surely liked you then. It's only at FKKs where they have an outrageous 50 for that. BTW that's also one main reason why 90 % or more of FKK girls will do it, and maybe 20 % or less apartment girls. Same story, adjusted numbers for anal.[/QUOTE]Yes, a waste of money, I'll remember it next time. Good to know about the anal thing, next time I put my hands on Chris I'll test the whole lot. LOL.

As a side note, I must say that in all clubs I went in Berlin I don't recall obtaining Cim, and for sure I asked it. I think for non regulars, if you are looking for extras, your best bet is Artemis, if you want to stay in med / hi level places. Don't know about the rest.

Thanks for the info.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Kimino;1358111]Yes, a waste of money, I'll remember it next time. Kimino[/QUOTE]Kimino, I think you are being your typical modest self. These normal CIM rates apply to normal beings discharging normal loads. But in your case, you paid more because, being a gentleman, you know you were asking a lot, when they have to handle what you are "packing". Somewhere between Dicke Berthe (Big Bertha) & Heavy Gustav...

I was in berlin at end of November and beginning of December for 4 days.

I had planned to visit Artemis the other 3 day except for the first night as I would arrive late at berlin and would be exhausted. The first night I planned for an escort visit to my hotel.

Hotel: (

[url]http://goethe87.arcona.de[/url]

) Actually it is more apartment then hotel. I got a good deal of 3 night for 120E. The apartment was 26 m² with kitchen, queen size bed, small safe, modern bathroom (massage shower) and very clean. It is ideal for escort as the reception is not in front of the entrance, and the girls can directly access the elevator from the entrance.

The girl: I wanted to try a girl from Klein&Zierlich, but the girl I wanted was not available (now removed from the list of the girls) , so I called escortgirlsberlin although I was skeptical about the agency because of not so good reviews. The phone lady was a Russian and she sounded stressed and was talking on 2. 3 phones on the same time. I asked for.

[url]http://www.escortgirlsberlin.de/xenia2.htm[/url]

She said that the girls is available and I should send the address and room number as SMS. As I hadn't checked in to my hotel yet we agreed that I should send the room number when I got to my hotel. I did so and sent one right away and the other one when I got to my hotel. 10 minuets past the agreed time I got worried as the girl didn't show up and I didn't got any confirmation call / SMS. I called again and asked about the arrangement and she was again talking on another phone but she assured me that the girl will be in my place in 10 minuets and she is a little bit late. After exactly 10 minuets I got a call and it was Xenia asking for the room number. I gave her room number and she came up. The pictures are very accurate and she is very CUTE CUTE CUTE. She get rid of her coat and we sat at coach for a little bit of talk and drink. After 5 min. She: "so what you want and for how long. 1 hour or 2". Me: "What do you do as extra and how about the prices" (although it is stated clear on the website). She: "hour rate is 90E, CIM 20E, kissing 10E and anal 50E". She seemed so beautiful and was so friendly and nice, so Me: "I take everything you mentioned for 2 hours. How much it is then? But will only do anal if you like it and it is no pain for you". She: "Are you sure? Hmmm. It is hmmm. 210 for 2 hour without anal and you pay me 50 extra at the end if we did anal". Me: "it sounds good and I want to start at the bathroom". She: "Very good, I just have to call my driver when he should pick me up".

Then she got undressed and I sat and watched her flawless body, then she set her phone to ring after two hours and we went to the bathroom. In the bathroom we dfk under the shower for long time and then washed each others body and then she got down and began a good BBBJ. I had saved myself for the trip so I couldn't hold it back after 8-10 minuets and unloaded a big load in to her mouth and face. Then we washed ourselves again and retired to the bed, talked and kissed for a good ½ hour. Then I went down at her for DATY. She was responsive and it seemed that she enjoyed it as she once in a while pushed hard my head down and began light moaning. Then she made me hard with her BBBJ before we began at mish. Position. After some change of position and tempo I came for the second time. After a quick wash we lay beside each other on the bed and talked for a long time and I was not sure that I could go for round three. After some time I felt like I was ready for round three and asked again for BBBJ and then we were having sex that her phone ringed as the time was up. She said that time is up, muted the alarm and continued for another 10 min. Before I finished with CIM.

The next three days I went to Artemis and had a great time (will write a report when I got time) , but this girl was the best encounter of my trip to berlin. She said that she will go on Christmas vacation and maybe therefor is not listed on the web-page right now, but she will be back after new year.

Thanks for the report SK. This agency does have a spotty reputation as far as I can see but also it seems that when it is good it is very good. And I have to admit that they have some banging girls on line. They also have a couple of in call locations.

[url]http://www.hochstaedter-massage.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.bizarre-rollenspiele.de/[/url]

Sounds to me that by taking the girl for a longer session you got better service plus maybe a bit of the old chemistry.

I look forward to hearing about your Artemis experience.

AM

I went to artemis, and my jaws dropped to the floor!

So many beautiful naked girls at the main lounge. Nice.

It was my first time in Fkk places.

Naturally I was very exited and my first girl (forgot the name) but if somebody recognise:

Black long hair, nice tanned skin, good ass and full lips. She used glasses, about 170cm, D-sized breast (silicone)

I took 30min / 60e, we went to up and and talked little bit and then she hurryed to BJ, ans little bit later we tried some positions and BAM. It was quick. Maybe the exitiment / stunning girl / too long time for last time. Anyway is it normal that girl do her job and that's it? Then we left the room, or as a client can I demand talking / rubbing something for that remaining time? I am newbie and don't know a shit about "rules".

Second girl? :

(forgot her name also) .160cm / long dark hair, nice tanned body, beautiful face, perfect ass, small a-cups. And she keep saying "yeah babe" during session. Little bit BJ, and then from behind. She didn't like that and demanded to missionary postion, I din't agree. I said how about lying on belly? NO, she said and turned to missionary. Is it normal that girls refuses clients, and says that this is better do what she wants. I came and were little pissed about that session. It was waste of time and money. = (

Afterall artemis was great experience, but I am not sure if I go there again. I left me little cold or girls seems to have hurry all the time, very little chatting, just acting and done, bye. Is it normal or did I get just bad last experience?

[QUOTE=Oppis; 1358663]I went to artemis, and my jaws dropped to the floor!

Etc.) [/QUOTE]This is Artemis' thread : [url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2588-FKK-Artemis-Berlin[/url]

[QUOTE=Oppis; 1358663]I went to artemis, It was my first time in Fkk places.

Naturally I was very exited and my first girl (forgot the name)

Second girl? : (forgot her name also)

Afterall artemis was great experience, but I am not sure if I go there again. I left me little cold or girls seems to have hurry all the time, very little chatting, just acting and done, bye. Is it normal or did I get just bad last experience?[/QUOTE]It is normal if you cannot remember anyone's name. And if you think it was great, but not sure...well, I just dunno. And like Bobo says, wrong department. I think all this glue sniffing is having its effect.

[QUOTE=Oppis;1358663]Anyway is it normal that girl do her job and that's it? Then we left the room, or as a client can I demand talking / rubbing something for that remaining time? I am newbie and don't know a shit about "rules".[/QUOTE]Maybe it is a language issue with you (as in you are obviously not a native English speaker) but "demanding" from the girls rarely has the desired effect in an FKK or otherwise. And as RB notes, remembering the girl's names helps. I mean, writing a report is great but if you can not remember any names you might as well write to Penthouse forum as the wrong thread on the ISG.

Further, there is no "normal" at an FKK. Much depends upon how you act and how you treat the ladies you chose. Poor choices inevitable mean poor sessions. These days the Love Bahnhof requires that you have you wits about you and don't head to the room with the first pretty girl who wiggles her ass at you.

AM

Sorry about my bad english- bad typing and my text which is hard to read.

Being nervous / too exited about Fkk- made me forget names. And that is why I tried to descripe those girls if someone knows their names? Maybe next time I will write names to paper.

BTW rocketboy, glue sniffing? Cmoon!

Hi,

Anyone knows Maitresse Simone (and also Sensual Lena on Adultwork)?

I'm wondering how she is.

Thank you

[QUOTE=Oppis;1359014]BTW rocketboy, glue sniffing? Cmoon![/QUOTE]You must excuse RB. He gets ornery and grumpy when his boosters are backed up. Glue sniffing was no doubt meant as a compliment. Maybe I will have to drag him to Poonville soon.

AM

Hey People,

I am going to Berlin with my GF, and we want to go to a couples / swingers club. I am 33 and she is 28 and we are looking for a nice place and people where we can fullfill our fantasies.

We would like to know if anyone can recomend a club / swinger, or if there is another couple out there that wants to have fun, let us know. We are going to be in Berlin on the 18 till 20th of January 2013.

Cheers

[QUOTE=TheSaint3012; 1362562]Hey People,

I am going to Berlin with my GF, and we want to go to a couples / swingers club.

We would like to know if anyone can recomend a club / swinger, let us know. We are going to be in Berlin on the 18 till 20th of January 2013.

Cheers[/QUOTE]Saint,

If you do find or go to a swingerclub, please add report afterward.

There are very few reports on serious couples-only swingerclubs, and your input would be most intresting.

Best regards, Ken Apples

[QUOTE=TheSaint3012; 1362562]Hey People,

I am going to Berlin with my GF, and we want to go to a couples / swingers club. I am 33 and she is 28 and we are looking for a nice place and people where we can fullfill our fantasies.

We would like to know if anyone can recomend a club / swinger, or if there is another couple out there that wants to have fun, let us know. We are going to be in Berlin on the 18 till 20th of January 2013.

Cheers[/QUOTE]It has been reported here but only as a GB place (certain nights are GB nights) but Insomnia is one option.

[url]http://www.insomnia-berlin.de/popup_english.html[/url]

Also I know of this place by reputation.

[url]http://www.swingeroase-zwiespalt.de/[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m7MnYm47wI[/url]

Can not say anything about quality as I have never been. Try googling the subject as there are plenty of hits when you do and you will as likely get you info there I think.

AM

[QUOTE=Shah Khan;1358329]The girl: I wanted to try a girl from Klein&Zierlich, but the girl I wanted was not available (now removed from the list of the girls) , so I called escortgirlsberlin although I was skeptical about the agency because of not so good reviews.[/QUOTE]You were probably lookibg for Ramona? Ytes a top girl for that price. In any case you should have called K-Z. They have a new slim blonde Maria who I can report is a super performer.

Going to Berlin next year, anyone have good tips for girls at Tiffanys?

Any amateur girls that you can recommend at Kaufmich or other places?

Thank You!

[QUOTE=Boy1978; 1365133]Going to Berlin next year, anyone have good tips for girls at Tiffanys?

Any amateur girls that you can recommend at Kaufmich or other places?

Thank You![/QUOTE]Hi. Although not answering directly to your question and based solely on my experience, I would avoid Tiffany and have a look at Royal, Liberty and Van Kampen. Royal has never put me down, Liberty on my last visit had a great lineup. There's many more, Monrouge, Kd, Prestige, but those are the ones I would check out first.

Know nothing about amateurs.

My2cents.

Kimino

i am reading something about berlin scene. i realize, again, men ask for escorts but they need a some-kind affective relationships more than a prostitutes. it is really humiliating to ask for easy sex at their crazy prices: basic price + extra for dfk + extra for cim + extra for swallow + extra for shower + extra for anal + extra for [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103][CodeWord103][/url] + no fisting + no bondage + no huge toys + even vaginal sex with condom too? a hand-job is thousands times more masculine than to waste thousands euros in that stupid artificial love!

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1365267]Hi. Although not answering directly to your question and based solely on my experience, I would avoid Tiffany and have a look at Royal, Liberty and Van Kampen. Royal has never put me down, Liberty on my last visit had a great lineup. There's many more, Monrouge, Kd, Prestige, but those are the ones I would check out first.

Know nothing about amateurs.

My2cents.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Hi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.

[QUOTE=Finite; 1365304]Hi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.[/QUOTE]As I said, only based on my experience on 5/6 visits, so take it for that. Mediocre lineup (left the place 3 times without picking a girl) , on two occasions the hausmut was quite aggressive for absolutely no reason, really giving me the impression I was disturbing. Rooms are very nice and place clean, still not enough to make it in my shortlist, with so many places in Berlin. Maybe I was just unlucky. As always, the best way is to test a place / girl personally.

Kimino

[QUOTE=Finite; 1365304]Hi Kimino!

The places you recomend are for sure good establishments, but what's wrong with Tiffanys?

I personally like Tiffanys, the line up was pretty good when I visited the place, this autumn. It also seem verry clean and well organized, but wich bordello does not in Germany?

Boy1978, it's an impossible task to recomend someone that's to your liking based on my personal likings.[/QUOTE]Of course Finite, all like different girls / look. I like natural girls,"nextdoor girls", without silicon and other fake stuff.

What girls did you visit at Tiffanys? I will go there, its easy to access from Mitte where I will stay.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1365505]As I said, only based on my experience on 5/6 visits, so take it for that. Mediocre lineup (left the place 3 times without picking a girl) , on two occasions the hausmut was quite aggressive for absolutely no reason, really giving me the impression I was disturbing. Rooms are very nice and place clean, still not enough to make it in my shortlist, with so many places in Berlin. Maybe I was just unlucky. As always, the best way is to test a place / girl personally.

Kimino[/QUOTE]Can you remember what girls you did visit?

[QUOTE=Boy1978; 1365567]Of course Finite, all like different girls / look. I like natural girls,"nextdoor girls", without silicon and other fake stuff.

What girls did you visit at Tiffanys? I will go there, its easy to access from Mitte where I will stay.[/QUOTE]Last time I was there I visited a Polish girl, Victoria? I'm not any good at remembering names, looking at the pictures on their site it must have been Victoria. She has no silicone or other fake stuff, don't know if she a "next door girl". All in all it was a good session.

[QUOTE=Kimino; 1365505]As I said, only based on my experience on 5/6 visits, so take it for that. Mediocre lineup (left the place 3 times without picking a girl) , on two occasions the hausmut was quite aggressive for absolutely no reason, really giving me the impression I was disturbing. Rooms are very nice and place clean, still not enough to make it in my shortlist, with so many places in Berlin. Maybe I was just unlucky. As always, the best way is to test a place / girl personally.

Kimino[/QUOTE]I have not been there so many times as you have, been there 3 times over a couple of years so maybe I have just been lucky. Personally I like to visit different places mid- to high end. I think that's part of the charm of mongering. And as you said if you don't like the line up, walk away.

[QUOTE=Boy1978;1365568]Can you remember what girls you did visit?[/QUOTE]Hi Boy1978, I looked back in my reports but only could find one name, Stefy.

Anyways, as allways, the best thing to do is to call up before and ask who is there. Or, if you feel like making a tour, just go there and if nothing matches your tastes just try another place.

FYI: Here is the report I filed at the time, not much info in there.

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1160136&viewfull=1#post1160136[/url]

Bye

Thank you Kimino,

I only been to; Kamilla la Dee, the houselady that did received me did look very nice. Only 2 girls free, did not like them so I went out. To bad I could not fuck the houselady (is that possible?). They have a girl named Yves, did read good stuff about here. Anyone her visited her?

About street girls; I don't like this, I have seen it close to Hackescher Markt. Why do people buy girls on the street for prices like 200euro? (the girl I spoked to wanted 230euro!) I will never buy a streetgirl. When you can go to a good place and pay like 100euro (or more) for a nice girl in a safe place.

Will write about Tiffanys when I go there next week! . Also saved places you did write.

[QUOTE=Boy1978; 1365684]. Etc.

To bad I could not fuck the houselady (is that possible?). They have a girl named Yves, did read good stuff about here. Anyone her visited her?

Etc.[/QUOTE]1) Yves was a houselady in the past. (So were Maria (not Marie) and Caro)

2) I met Yves more than once, here are some posts :

December 2009 :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=966113&viewfull=1#post966113[/url]

July 21rst 2010 :

[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?668-Berlin&p=1047755&viewfull=1#post1047755[/url]

Sorry, my posts are short and shorter! It's why I don't post my meetings anymore because they could be seen as an exhibition of "trophees" : that's not my goal!

I will be visiting Berlin in April and I would like to spend a few days mongering there. I hope some of you veterans will give me some advice. I want an upscale experience, so the flat-rate houses are not of interest to me. I plan to visit Artemis, Liberty and some of the others. However, what I enjoy the most is bringing a girl back to my room at the hotel and having a session of 90 minutes to two hours-a leisurely session including a massage, BBBJ and sex in many different positions.

In Bangkok, I visit a massage parlor, a nightclub or an upscale genetleman's club, meet a girl, then bring her back to my hotel. I would like to do something similar in Berlin, but I don't know how to proceed. An escort service is a possibility, but you never know who will show up at your door. I prefer to meet the girl before I bring her back. I'm prepared to be generous, so within reason, price is not an issue. Can anyone give me some pointers?

Also, are all hotels in Berlin girl-friendly or would I have a problem bringing her back? I would like to stay in a top hotel. Can anyone recommend a top-quality hotel that is guest-friendly?

Thank you,

Canyon