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The only lady I am aware of in the vicinty of your hotel is Pamela Hipolito, but -- and I must emphasize this -- I know nothing about her. I have never met her and there are no reviews I am aware of. I raise her ONLY out of proximity. Otherwise, you will need to venture out. Probably to either Alges or downtown Lisbon.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/340741-pamela-hipolito-inesquecivel-o[/URL]
[QUOTE=GinTonics;2682068]Opportunity one: Morning incall, before 11 am.
Due to other activities end of this week, I will only have the chance for some morning activity.
Staying in Lisbon Estrela.
Massage also an option.[/QUOTE]
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Emily Carter could the queen you seek for either opportunity. Her I know. She is worth visiting for at least your incall at the very least, although she is 3 or 4 neighborhoods over from Estrela.
You can read plenty about the EP options, but I should point out that Soraia Albuquerque and Maria Conceicao are both natural and Portuguese. Maria's English is the better of the two.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=840[/URL]
[QUOTE=GinTonics;2682068]Opportunity two: Outcall, extended, maybe incl. Dinner, End of next week, my Hotel.
Queen of choice:
- Natural muse (no silicon, nowhere).
- Breast b+.
- Portuguese preferably.
- Independent options?
Any ideas?[/QUOTE]
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Correction -- Pamela was written up on the local board a year ago. It slipped my notice. So, one mediocre review. Another guy loved her performance, but gave her mediocre marks because HE had to leave halfway through and she wouldn't refund his money. 🙄
This is what I mean about some of the local board guys being nasty and cheap.
So she could be a hot MILF massagista... but you would be taking your chances.
So insofar as a lady actually working in Estrela goes 🤷 If you want a safe morning bet, you will need to Uber it to Alges or downtown.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2682196]The only lady I am aware of in the vicinty of your hotel is Pamela Hipolito, but -- and I must emphasize this -- I know nothing about her. (...) she could be a hot MILF massagista... but you would be taking your chances [/QUOTE]Forget about Pamela. She's a late 40's / early 50's Brazilian which shouldn't be a problem for me, since I do prefer MILFs (some well into their 50's). But, in her case, it was a very lackluster experience, totally "professional" in the worst sense of the word.
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Penelope Garcia
Based on a recent review on the local board, Escort Privada lady Penelope Garcia definitely deserve a look.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Penelope-Garcia-6340.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
Her review was a perfect 10 out of 10 from a guy who has done twenty-one reviews and he gave highly-thought of ladies like Carolina Belmont and Maria Conceicao 9's and 8's out of 10. So clearly Penelope made quite the impression. He said that Penelope is about 27 and BBBJTCIM was confirmed. Here is the translated version of the well-written review:
"Fast and clear scheduling via Whatsapp, which was confirmed not to have been directly with the GP in question, but with a "friend" since, despite Penelope understanding our language well and expressing herself in a noticeable Spanish / Portuguese, she doesn't write Portuguese so correctly due to the fact that she is Venezuelan.
Classic values 8203; for travel, 150€/1 hour with almost complete service, excluding anal.
Hotel visit, punctual.
What I can tell you is that, in my simple opinion, Penelope will be one of the most complete GPS I've ever been with.
She is beautiful with Latin features, black hair, fit body with some body art that is not in the ads, and the photographs don't do her full justice.
Always chatty but without being intrusive, she puts us at ease and is also fully available.
Level conversation, always available, attentive, affectionate, in short, in my simple opinion, a complete package of what I was looking for that night.
As what I can convey is limited to this very personal experience (certainly to be repeated in new opportunities), for those looking for something of a level, a GFE, kisses, caresses, relaxing and very personalized massage, I think Penelope fits perfectly.
For those looking for something a little more hardcore, porn star, etc. , it doesn't seem to be the case, but maybe you can adapt to each situation.
Natural oral without any repair, until the end without those weird techniques of being until the end but then it's anything but that, tight and intense vaginal, kisses without any limitation.
For a moment, it felt like I was with a longtime friend, a true GFE!
I was really surprised with Penelope and even more for not having been able to find any TD about her (which had left me behind initially, I confess), maybe because some confreres wanted to keep it a secret?! 8).
We exceeded the time without any problem and there was a clash that will last in memory.
Please don't spoil it and take good care of it."
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High price
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2681528]The rule used to be 100 incall /150 outcall and 120 incall /180 outcall per hour.
The majority of ladies on the photo-verified sites are now asking 150 incall, though. Their outcall rates are all over the place, because 150 incall is new AND widely considered gouging.[/QUOTE]Hello,
Patricia Navarro is asking 250 Euro / HR for an outcall? Is it not too much? Not ready to negotiate.
Could you please suggest if this is ongoing price?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Shandy13;2684366]Hello,
Patricia Navarro is asking 250 Euro / HR for an outcall? Is it not too much? Not ready to negotiate.
Could you please suggest if this is ongoing price?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]As I wrote, for the ladies that do incall, outcall rates are over the place right now. IMO, asking 250/ HR suggests she doesn't really want to do outcall in the first place. You would be paying extra to make it "worth her while. ".
For my part, I would never pay such a price when her studio is available for substantially less. And that is assuming you are really into her in particular.
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Patricia navarro
Is she back?
I jst saw her ad too, I have been with her in 2019. She has def gotten a bigger breast (post op) as she had natural when I met her. Plus, she is way more curvier than I saw her last.
I had posted my review on her. She was very good, so good that I repeated her sadly I don't like such big breasts.
Also to give you an idea, I took incall from here standard 70 for 30 E and she did overtime with me both the times I was there.
She gave a good service.
Hope this helps.
Ucant.
[QUOTE=Shandy13;2684366]Hello,
Patricia Navarro is asking 250 Euro / HR for an outcall? Is it not too much? Not ready to negotiate.
Could you please suggest if this is ongoing price?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2684781]She (Patricia Navarro) was very good, so good that I repeated her (...) She gave a good service.[/QUOTE]Patrcia Navarro is a good enough courtesan but still very far from the very best ones I have mentioned in previous posts. She has a fine body (the fake boobs are -almost - always uncalled for) and she is nice and a good sex partner. But she doesn't belong in the very first league: the one where you forget you're paying for sex and it becomes a beautiful experience.
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Any reviews for these profiles
Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the information and help provided. Due to unavailability of few of the recommendations, I had to look for other profiles. Would appreciate your feedback or reviews on the below. Sorry for the long list.
1. Bianca Miller.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-BiancaMiller-5377.html[/URL]
2. Natalia Sales.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-NataliaSales-6481.html[/URL]
3. Ella Secret.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-EllaSecret-6513.html[/URL]
4. Cloe Santini.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-CloeSantini-6398.html[/URL]
5. Vanessa Cabral.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-VanessaCabral-4045.html[/URL]
6. Clara Sampaio.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-ClaraSampaio-4114.html[/URL]
7. Malu Garcia.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-MaluGarcia-5973.html[/URL]
8. Anny Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-AnnyReis-6062.html[/URL]
9. Agatha Gabrielly.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-AgathaGabrielly-6362.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2684781]Is she back?
I jst saw her ad too, I have been with her in 2019. She has def gotten a bigger breast (post op) as she had natural when I met her. Plus, she is way more curvier than I saw her last.
I had posted my review on her. She was very good, so good that I repeated her sadly I don't like such big breasts.
Also to give you an idea, I took incall from here standard 70 for 30 E and she did overtime with me both the times I was there.
She gave a good service.
Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the above feedback. Very helpful.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2684757]As I wrote, for the ladies that do incall, outcall rates are over the place right now. IMO, asking 250/ HR suggests she doesn't really want to do outcall in the first place. You would be paying extra to make it "worth her while. ".
For my part, I would never pay such a price when her studio is available for substantially less. And that is assuming you are really into her in particular.[/QUOTE]I agree with you. Thanks a lot for your guidance.
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Anna Reis
Anna Reis received a lot of 9/10 a 7/10 and some 8/10 in the local board in Portuguese.
[URL]http://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=67810&start=0[/URL]
[QUOTE=Shandy13;2685202]Hi everyone,
Thanks for all the information and help provided. Due to unavailability of few of the recommendations, I had to look for other profiles. Would appreciate your feedback or reviews on the below. Sorry for the long list.
1. Bianca Miller.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-BiancaMiller-5377.html[/URL]
2. Natalia Sales.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-NataliaSales-6481.html[/URL]
3. Ella Secret.[/QUOTE]
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Shandy -- my recollection is that Anny Reis has a handful of reviews on the local board, and those were in the 7 to 9 (out of 10) range. Ella Secret had just one, rated as an 8. I do not recall a review of any of the others.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2685439]Shandy -- my recollection is that Anny Reis has a handful of reviews on the local board, and those were in the 7 to 9….[/QUOTE]Yes, here is a typical translated review of Anny Reis from the local board:
"At the end of the afternoon, none of the GPS that I had my eye on answered my messages, I go to the apartadox and this pocahontas jumps out at me.
Simple appointment, always super friendly and available (both on the phone and in person), I attach great importance to this, I feel that it is increasingly common for GPS not to respond correctly to what is asked.
The location is in Areeiro, very easy to park and very discreet, huge room with bathroom outside, all in excellent condition and clean.
Physically the GP is top of the line. Big smile and badass look, excellent body, without fat but full of curves, breasts retouched but still great both visually and to the touch.
The hygiene is impeccable, fragrant and the skin is super silky, without any hair on that body of Mermaidit just feels like kissing and licking: mozilla_tongue:
Oral naturally, a few slams, could give more attention to the neighborhood but easily a 9/10.
In sex she also gives in well, pulls us to kiss her, she puts herself in a way that we can enjoy the body, a horny.
It takes 8 because despite being a badass, in minete it doesn't allow the gynecological fingerprint, in the vagina it puts gel on the condom, and I felt, although very subtle, some control of time when we went to the vaginal, that is, see You know you want to please, but I also noticed that your aim was to make me come relatively quickly.
That said, it was an excellent moment and I left it very satisfied. I'll be back soon, that's for sure, that little body doesn't get out of my head".
The reviews say she is pretty and athletic. She once had some acne, but that is one almost completely gone. BBBJ, DATY is confirmed in the reviews, but for at least the reviewer above, fingering was not on the menu.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Anny-Reis-6062.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2685439]Shandy -- my recollection is that Anny Reis has a handful of reviews on the local board, and those were in the 7 to 9 (out of 10) range. Ella Secret had just one, rated as an 8. I do not recall a review of any of the others.[/QUOTE]It is worth noting that even though Ella Secret only has one review, it is from a guy who has done thirty reviews. He confirms that she does BBBJ in the profile. Here is the translated review of her from the local board, which gives a lot of detail.
"Well then, let's go for another breakthrough, after yesterday having one of the most memorable nights with a GP, Paloma, forgetting some previous baths, I went to trust with Ella Secret, shows her face at PP, which gives an idea What are we going to do, chat via WhatsApp where he says that oral is his specialty, where I, armed as a champion, say that oral to her is also my specialty. Appointment and go to bingo, 10 minutes before the scheduled time says that it will be 5 minutes late, which only took 3 of those 5 minutes. I go up, first impression, very good, a woman without being beautiful, she's pretty, her body completely toned, long black hair, open smile, not a single stretch mark, bikini line, full chest, but all of her Riginha. Talk, I give the money beforehand on my own initiative, I went to baths, I come back, she approaches me and starts with a few flounders, she praises and says: good kiss, who kisses well usually sucks well, to which I reply: I hope so, let's see (confidence was not so high anymore). Still standing, she starts to go down my body with kisses and goes to get closer to the boy, I stop her, pull her up and say, me first. She laughs and lies on the bed I run over her belly with kisses, and I go straight to the girl, minete very soft and calm, she praises and likes it, she goes to mine with faith, she already completely with her hips raised, she comes and says, he's the first Portuguese to make me come with his mouth, and I reply, you mustn't be here for a long time, to which she replies, if I wasn't here my boyfriend would be fucked, I'm here for me, really am I listening to this?. She asks to reciprocate, analyzes Júnior and gentlemen sometimes it goes slow, sometimes it goes fast, always with suction and all the way to the bottom without complaints and on her own initiative, without a doubt one of the best orals that I have, without a doubt, she sucked with desire, I realized that she likes it even to give oral and to see the other person almost bursting, it was not the case but tell him the will and said: Ella, maybe it's better to stop because we also have other equally good things to do and I don't want to finish right now, I noticed that she was glad to think I was almost there. Put a condom on and come on top of me, when it's tight, it's not tight but contraction on her part, which does it very well, it starts pumping fast and I was already expecting it, I hold my ass and slow down and put it on well inside to which she sighs and I say: enjoy it more. She smiles and goes with the wave, she gets off me and puts herself on 4, I noticed the time control here because she pressed tlm to check the time, puts herself on 4 and just goes to her head, she wants everything but I don't, I want to play with door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they were squeezing me completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths, I want to play with the door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they had me to squeeze completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths, I want to play with the door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they had me to squeeze completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths.
I come back, seen, while seen we talk, she talks a little about her 5 min of conversation and it's late.
Ella is a cool chavala, when I left I sent a message thanking her for the time as I always do, the way of talking before and after being with her changed, more affectionate and more ready to respond, which in a way is a good sign asking for the next one if possible stay 1 h because I had imagined some things to do with myself. I felt that Ella's sympathy can quickly turn into someone frowning and cold if someone or something doesn't please her, other than that I think it can evolve in the future. I don't think bossy or "take my pork" style will get away with it.
Leaves the temple with 8 values".
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513.html[/URL]
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Porto to Lisbon?
Hi, I'll be spending a week in Lisbon soon, and I plan to have some fun in the hobby while I'm there. However, it's my understanding that the talent in Lisbon is higher than in Porto so I was wondering if there's a way for me to do a day trip to Lisbon from Porto? Ideally, I could take an express train to Lisbon, fuck a few beauties, and then return to Lisbon with a smile on my face. I'd like to avoid flying so a fast train would be best.
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Yeah, that's my man!
[QUOTE=Atanion;2685815]...Ideally, I could take an express train to Lisbon, fuck a few beauties, and then return to Lisbon with a smile on my face. I'd like to avoid flying so a fast train would be best.[/QUOTE]I wish you success, as I would like to do that as well. Please report on your findings. I am due to visit a friend who recently moved to Porto, and I can't think of visiting Portugal without tasting some Portuguese nectar.
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Logistics for traveling from Porto to Lisbon
[QUOTE=Atanion;2685815]Hi, I'll be spending a week in Lisbon soon, and I plan to have some fun in the hobby while I'm there. However, it's my understanding that the talent in Lisbon is higher than in Porto so I was wondering if there's a way for me to do a day trip to Lisbon from Porto? Ideally, I could take an express train to Lisbon, fuck a few beauties, and then return to Lisbon with a smile on my face. I'd like to avoid flying so a fast train would be best.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Best way is to catch a train from Porto takes about 3 1/2 hours so could do a day return. To book use [URL]https://www.cp.pt/passageiros/en/train-times[/URL] has English translation. Best price using this link as opposed to private tour companies.
Good luck and look forward to reading your reports.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2685815]Hi, I'll be spending a week in Lisbon soon, and I plan to have some fun in the hobby while I'm there. However, it's my understanding that the talent in Lisbon is higher than in Porto so I was wondering if there's a way for me to do a day trip to Lisbon from Porto? Ideally, I could take an express train to Lisbon, fuck a few beauties, and then return to Lisbon with a smile on my face. I'd like to avoid flying so a fast train would be best.[/QUOTE]Lisbon would attract better talent on the basis of being the 1st city, but there is also something of a rivalry between Porto and Lisbon. I have often wondered if the difference is really that wide, especially since there is a long track record of ladies going back and forth between the two cities.
Eller Rocha, for example, is highly regarded and has mo ed to Porto for a while. There many others that I know go back and forth, but I don't know how good they might be.
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Thank you
[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2684781]Is she back?
I jst saw her ad too, I have been with her in 2019. She has def gotten a bigger breast (post op) as she had natural when I met her. Plus, she is way more curvier than I saw her last.
I had posted my review on her. She was very good, so good that I repeated her sadly I don't like such big breasts.
Also to give you an idea, I took incall from here standard 70 for 30 E and she did overtime with me both the times I was there.
She gave a good service.
Hope this helps..[/QUOTE]Thank you very much Ucant. I can see you have posted good FRs here. Would definitely help me. Will post my FRs soon.
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Thank you
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2685666]It is worth noting that even though Ella Secret only has one review, it is from a guy who has done thirty reviews. He confirms that she does BBBJ in the profile. Here is the translated review of her from the local board, which gives a lot of detail.
"Well then, let's go for another breakthrough, after yesterday having one of the most memorable nights with a GP, Paloma, forgetting some previous baths, I went to trust with Ella Secret, shows her face at PP, which gives an idea What are we going to do, chat via WhatsApp where he says that oral is his specialty, where I, armed as a champion, say that oral to her is also my specialty. Appointment and go to bingo, 10 minutes before the scheduled time says that it will be 5 minutes late, which only took 3 of those 5 minutes. I go up, first impression, very good, a woman without being beautiful, she's pretty, her body completely toned, long black hair, open smile, not a single stretch mark, bikini line, full chest, but all of her Riginha. Talk, I give the money beforehand on my own initiative, I went to baths, I come back, she approaches me and starts with a few flounders, she praises and says: good kiss, who kisses well usually sucks well, to which I reply: I hope so, let's see (confidence was not so high anymore). Still standing, she starts to go down my body with kisses and goes to get closer to the boy, I stop her, pull her up and say, me first. She laughs and lies on the bed I run over her belly with kisses, and I go straight to the girl, minete very soft and calm, she praises and likes it, she goes to mine with faith, she already completely with her hips raised, she comes and says, he's the first Portuguese to make me come with his mouth, and I reply, you mustn't be here for a long time, to which she replies, if I wasn't here my boyfriend would be fucked, I'm here for me, really am I listening to this?. She asks to reciprocate, analyzes Jnior and gentlemen sometimes it goes slow, sometimes it goes fast, always with suction and all the way to the bottom without complaints and on her own initiative, without a doubt one of the best orals that I have, without a doubt, she sucked with desire, I realized that she likes it even to give oral and to see the other person almost bursting, it was not the case but tell him the will and said: Ella, maybe it's better to stop because we also have other equally good things to do and I don't want to finish right now, I noticed that she was glad to think I was almost there. .[/QUOTE]Wow. You are great Mongerer88. I am eagerly waiting to experience these beauties and post my FRs. Wish me good luck.
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Very helpful
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2685439]Shandy -- my recollection is that Anny Reis has a handful of reviews on the local board, and those were in the 7 to 9 (out of 10) range. Ella Secret had just one, rated as an 8. I do not recall a review of any of the others.[/QUOTE]Thank you ExExpatriate. Much appreciated.
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Anna has returned
My second favorite EP girl ever has returned, and as an independent doing outcalls only, Anna Balthazar:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1255[/URL]
The last time I saw Anna was November 2020. She is a hippie girl of Ukrainian extraction, brought up in Portugal. She is in her late 20's and is a mother (it showed), but beautiful, was all natural at the time (still looks that way to me), and offered a wonderful GFE experience. She remains in my Top 5 Lisbon courtesans ever.
I don't know what she is charging now, since I am not there. I have no reason to ask that (yet).
Be good to her. She deserves it.
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Clubs
What are your thoughts on places like Elefante Branco or Black Tie.
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Lisbon next week
Hello gents. First let me thank the local contributors. I've been perusing the forum for the last month in anticipation of this trip and the research has been invaluable. I joined the local board, as was recommended here (pity it doesn't have a search function) and have scrolled through pages of the Lisbon postings. I've no doubt you've already saved me from several major disappointments. Several of my first choice targets have now been dropped due to reports here and on the local board. For that, I thank you.
Just a couple of quick questions. I've more or less established that the Nura Spa and likely Permita Spa will not leave me disappointed if I ask for a relaxing massage. Are there any other well known "can't miss' establishments I'm missing? I'll be staying at the Sofitel.
Given I'm not too familiar with the city, I'll probably rely primarily on out-calls to my hotel. I believe I've probably got that covered based on previous reviews, albeit I have my eye on a few where there appears to be a paucity of feedback and will of course report my findings.
I did notice the post before this was someone asking for insight into several of the clubs. I'd also very much appreciate some up to date intel on these as well. I recognize this route may be slightly more expensive, but there is something to be said from interacting with someone prior to heading back to the hotel.
In any event, very much looking forward to this, first in 2 years because of the damn pandemic.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers.
Stirling.
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Hi Stirling.
The Sofitel on Avenida de Liberdade? It would be easier to list who isn't near you. 2/3's of the ladies on the photo-verified sites are within a mile of that hotel. I suggest that you start asking your wish list (by WhatsApp) what neighborhood they are in, if you don't already know. They will at least give you an answer like "Picoas" and more likely the actual street (but not the building number).
And if a lady giving you outcall service gives you grief about that location (oh, so difficult to park, etc.) it's because she is a twat. Seriously. They are usually grateful for something so central.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2686453]Hi Stirling.
The Sofitel on Avenida de Liberdade? It would be easier to list who isn't near you. 2/3's of the ladies on the photo-verified sites are within a mile of that hotel. I suggest that you start asking your wish list (by WhatsApp) what neighborhood they are in, if you don't already know. They will at least give you an answer like "Picoas" and more likely the actual street (but not the building number).
And if a lady giving you outcall service gives you grief about that location (oh, so difficult to park, etc.) it's because she is a twat. Seriously. They are usually grateful for something so central.[/QUOTE]ExExpatriate, thanks for that. Nice to know I picked a good location. I land in Lisbon late next week and having been locked down and denied travel these last few years. Well I have 2 years of pent up tension and a week in Lisbon to remedy that situation. Looking forward to trying all avenues open to me, incall / outcall, clubs, and spas (although the last thing I need is to go to a massage spa and actually end up with nothing but a massage, the horror.
Open to any current advice.
Thanks so much.
Stirling.
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Mia Khalifa
Anyone have any reviews on Mia Khalifa?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Mia-Khalifa-6457.html[/URL]
Or any other girl-next-door types?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Jacko234;2686674]Anyone have any reviews on Mia Khalifa?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Mia-Khalifa-6457.html[/URL]
Or any other girl-next-door types?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Mia Khalifa's one review on the local board (which is from an experienced reviewer) is terrible, and she apparently works with other ladies on the Avoid list.
Here is a translated version of the review.
"Name: Mia Khalifa.
Age: Advertises 20, I believe.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Face: 7/10 - pretty, putty glasses, looks like the teacher's favorite student.
Tits: 6/10 - very small but pretty.
Tail: 9/10 - a reason why I went there, big, round and good, not super tough at the gym.
Tattoos and piercings: nothing I've seen or remember.
Hygiene: 10/10.
Oral: 5/10.
Vaginal: 6/10.
Price: 80/150 €.
Attitude: 3/10.
Punctuality: 5/10.
Time Control: 4/10.
Location: Campo Grande. Hustlers.
House conditions: good room but cold, bathroom in room but not very clean.
I'm going to write this TD as a warning to anyone who is tempted to set up a date with this pita tuga.
I've had a rule of not going to Tuga escorts for a long time because practically all my negative experiences in this life have been with Portuguese women. I only made rare exceptions for some that are very well referenced here on the forum.
Last week I noticed this ad and I was in the mood for a pita with a big ass and I decided to score it. The appointment was easy and she was very friendly, she warns that she doesn't kiss and doesn't do anal. All right, I went to Campo Grande to a house I had seen but never visited. It was only after I had already scored that I noticed that I was Portuguese, but I decided to take the risk anyway, despite my instinct telling me to cancel.
Well, I should have followed my instinct. I arrived at the place, I was not responding to messages so I called. A friend answered, told me to come in and wait for her in the room she was getting ready for.
She arrives about 15/20 minutes after the agreed time, dressed in normal clothes, I don't know how she "was getting ready", but that's it.
The first impression wasn't bad, she looked cute, her face wasn't what I was expecting, she looks like a chrome, but still cute. She was nice enough but kind of distant and professional.
When we got to the room, she immediately asked how long she was going to stay, I handed her the money and undressed while she went to take the money. I had already taken a shower so I was just waiting.
She returns a short time later, without saying a word, begins to respond to a few messages, and then unceremoniously undresses.
We started making out at the foot of the bed, I try to get her to sit on my lap and she immediately says don't touch yourself with "that uncovered". And I think, well, I can really see that it's going to be one of those "don't touch me here, don't touch me there, I don't like it like that, I don't like it roasted". I was already having flashbacks of other Portuguese GPS with the same attitude and regretting the 80 bucks I dropped in this shit. As soon as I lay down, he took some lube and started massaging my soldier who started to wake up. From the way he was massaging it looked like he wanted to try and finish me right there. Went to get one of those generic condoms (I always take mine, which are good, but she refused to use it saying she didn't trust it.) : roll: and gave an oral with the most basic technique imaginable, the only thing that saved her was that she increased the pace a little later and did a "mouth handjob".
As she saw that things weren't going to get much better, I got up and made her a mint that she accepted and even seems to have liked it, she sighed softly and got very wet but didn't let go.
Then I went over to her where I noticed that she was very wet and tight, it even took a while to get in (I'm a little bigger than average but nothing scary) but she controls the rhythm and depth and makes some grimaces of pain and discomfort even putting only half of it. Well, I'm in this for about 2 minutes, which despite not being exactly stimulating because of her attitude, it tastes great because it's very wet and tight. To see if things got better I asked her if she would prefer to go upstairs to be able to control it better to which she responds a little rude, no no, I want to put it at 4 to end: roll:
This where it really is an extraordinary sight and I pumped for about 2 minutes with some care but I couldn't take it anymore because I was feeling very well.
I cleaned up, went to baths and goodbye.
In short: the house is good, as far as I know the values 8203;are 60/100 but I booked directly with her and it was more expensive. The girl is attractive, but she has a bad attitude, doesn't know how to fuck and tries to hurry up. I recommend it to anyone who likes a pitinha with a big ass and a very wet and tight vagina and who doesn't have a great love for money to try.
I won't go back to her here, but the house looks interesting and maybe I'll go to a performance in the future. I saw a friend of hers, also very young and prettier but she was wearing normal clothes and looked thinner, but if she's a tuga I'll think twice.
It should be noted that I am young and even good looking and GPS tend to like me, so if she had an attitude like that with me, I imagine what it would be like with someone older or who could be even less funny.
To avoid."
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Inês & Cléo
These two go together simply because they share the same apartment in Rua da Beneficência. But, apart from that, they are both among the very best courtesans Lisbon has to offer right now. Inês is Portuguese and Cléo is Brazilian. They are both in their early 30's.
Inês is a wonderful petite, a sex dynamo, striking a very pleasing balance beween GFE and sex starved lioness. Her BBBJTC is something to be remembered for quite a long time. And if you need (you don't) to release the wild beast inside that little and eager body, you need nothing more than perform your best DATY on her delicious pussy. You'll be generously rewarded. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].
Cléo is also a petite, elegant and beautiful lady, at first not as bold as Inês but it doesn't take long to get her in the right mood. Make it sweet and slow and very soon things will be dangerously hot (DATY is also greatly appreciated). [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL].
Even if I'm not a great fan of threesomes, I have to confess that the thought has crossed my mind with these two. I'll have to give it a thought.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2686917]These two go together simply because they share the same apartment in Rua da Beneficncia. But, apart from that, they are both among the very best courtesans Lisbon has to offer right now. Ins is Portuguese and Clo is Brazilian. They are both in their early 30's.
Ins is a wonderful petite, a sex dynamo, striking a very pleasing balance beween GFE and sex starved lioness. Her BBBJTC is something to be remembered for quite a long time. And if you need (you don't) to release the wild beast inside that little and eager body, you need nothing more than perform your best DATY on her delicious pussy. You'll be generously rewarded. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].
Clo is also a petite, elegant and beautiful lady, at first not as bold as Ins but it doesn't take long to get her in the right mood. Make it sweet and slow and very soon things will be dangerously hot (DATY is also greatly appreciated). [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL].
Even if I'm not a great fan of threesomes, I have to confess that the thought has crossed my mind with these two. I'll have to give it a thought.[/QUOTE]Cleo looks beautiful. Are they just massage ladies or do they explicitly offer FS? What are the prices?
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[QUOTE=Jacko234;2686986]Cleo looks beautiful. Are they just massage ladies or do they explicitly offer FS? What are the prices?[/QUOTE]Cléo is beautiful even if Inês is just a little (very little) bit a better sex experience. As a matter of fact, both are great sex experiences and to say that one is better than the other may depend on a lot of circumstances that can be very different from day to day and from person to person.
They do explicitly offer FS. 1 hour /100€. The 30 minutes price I don't know.
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Lorena bianchi
Planning for this week's trip coming along nicely. That said, I've tried to find some intel on Lorena Bianchi and have not been able to find a review. Anyone have any information about her.
Thanks.
Stirling.
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Babi Andrade (Queen of Anal)
I'll be in Porto soon, and I plan to take the high speed train to Lisbon for a day (thanks for those who recommended that). I've been checking out gt-[URL]pt.net[/URL]/ forum, and the only Lisbon girl who seems appetizing is Babi Andrade. I love that she calls herself the "Queen of Anal". Here is her apartadox link:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Babi-Andrade-6294.html[/URL]
Has anyone been with her? I'm looking for at least one girl in Babi's price range who offers anal. Girls in their early 20's who are spinners tend to be my type. I've read back a few pages in this forum, and most of the recommended girls seem to be in their 30's or no longer have their ads up.
Here are her stats on another site:
Location: Entrecampos.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: 18/23.
Height: Average.
Body: Thin.
Hair: Dark brown.
Sign: Virgo.
About Me: Queen of anal! Crazy to fuck!
Interests: Men!!
Languages: Portuguese.
Availability: Week days / Weekends.
Here is a translated review (using Google Translate) from [URL]https://gp-pt.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=188&t=69165[/URL] :
30 min - 60.
60 min - 100.
Extra 10/20 for anal.
GIRL.
Very friendly and available. Don't deny anything, conversationalist.
Face between normal and cute, depends on tastes. Should measure about 1. 73 m, normal / fit body. Small chest but with protruding beaks and normal tail, 4 inches makes you want to pump. No silicones and I didn't notice any tattoos or piercings.
SERVICE.
Tongue kisses, snogging, anal fingering. No restrictions. Competent oral and deep anal penetration. You can take it out, put it back in, rotate positions. I skipped the vagina. Massages and can do fetishes depending on the person / will / hygiene (pink button, ejaculation on the face, golden rain, .).
OPINION.
In what I was looking for, anal at a good price and without restrictions, it fulfilled its due and exceeded expectations. I recommend it to anyone who likes GFE and / or PSE, it works both ways.
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Seems to be a great girl. The reviewer gave her an 8 out of 10 and he is one of the most prolific reviewers on that review board, with over 50 reviews. He gives good scores when deserved, but bad ones, too. So an 8 out of 10 from that reviewer is very good.
[QUOTE=Atanion;2687833]I'll be in Porto soon, and I plan to take the high speed train to Lisbon for a day (thanks for those who recommended that). I've been checking out gt-[URL]pt.net[/URL]/ forum, and the only Lisbon girl who seems appetizing is Babi Andrade. I love that she calls herself the "Queen of Anal". Here is her apartadox link:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Babi-Andrade-6294.html[/URL]
Has anyone been with her? I'm looking for at least one girl in Babi's price range who offers anal. Girls in their early 20's who are spinners tend to be my type. I've read back a few pages in this forum, and most of the recommended girls seem to be in their 30's or no longer have their ads up.
Here are her stats on another site:
Location: Entrecampos.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: 18/23.[/QUOTE]
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Patricia Navarro
Hi,
Here is my FR om my 1st experience in Lisbon.
Thanks to few senior and helping guys like Mongerer88, Kama and Exexpatriate and Ucantcmebro.
So, I met with this lady. Patricia Navarro.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]
Appointment. On what is app and very smooth.
No problem faced and very responsive. She was patient in responding to all my queries.
Apartment (Incall) - Very discreet and she guided me well there. Clean and hygienic room with attached bathroom. Although the room was very small and I like a big space with different arrangements to explore multiple positions. But I am fine with this little compromise.
About her.
Age. Must be in her late 20's.
Look. She looks like what is shown in the pic. Tall and curvy.
Face. Average (Cute).
Hair. Long black straight hairs. I was happy as I love pulling long hairs while in Doggy position 🤠.
Breast. Silicon and not natural. Big and Very tight. Was ok but was expecting more natural big tits. Not very happy.
Ass. Round and in good shape.
Vagina. Clean and tight.
About experience -.
DFK. Enjoyed DFK. Initially it was very mechanical and not opening mouth. But after 5 min, she was really charged and started giving and asking a lot of DFKs.
Oral. Good BBBJ.
Fingering. Yes, I did a lot to charge her up.
CIM. Yes, I discharged everything finally in CIM.
Positions. We explored missionary, Doggy and WOT.
Anal. I am not into it and hence did not ask.
Fetish. I had the fetish of fucking long hairs. So, I tied her long hairs on my boy while she was giving me oral. Enjoyed that session.
Her attitude. Very friendly. No issues.
Language. Does not speak English. So this was the problem for me. I really love to speak before and during the deed. So this is negative for me.
Massage. After our deed, She gave me really a very good massage that actually I fell asleep. And she just lied down along my side and we just started hugging each other again for few minutes.
Overall. Good experience. 8/10.
Now I am deciding for my next one. Confused between Silvia Nunes and Anny Reis. This time, I am looking for outcall (in my hotel). Will post my next FR guys.
Cheers.
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Cool
Good review, mentioning the cost would have good for us, 30 & 60 minutes.
[QUOTE=Shandy13;2687851]Hi,
Here is my FR om my 1st experience in Lisbon.
Thanks to few senior and helping guys like Mongerer88, Kama and Exexpatriate and Ucantcmebro.
So, I met with this lady. Patricia Navarro.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]
Appointment. On what is app and very smooth.
No problem faced and very responsive. She was patient in responding to all my queries.
Apartment (Incall) - Very discreet and she guided me well there. Clean and hygienic room with attached bathroom. Although the room was very small and I like a big space with different arrangements to explore multiple positions. But I am fine with this little compromise..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mike963;2688083]Good review, mentioning the cost would have good for us, 30 & 60 minutes.[/QUOTE]Price.
30 min - 60.
60 min - 120.
Cheers.
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Helping tips
Hi all and thank in advance.
I'm coming to Lisbon for the first time and looking for a massage experience.
I know the scene in Barcelona pretty well and looking for a similar experience in Lisbon.
An erotic massage, both naked & full interaction, BJ and cum on lady is a plus but not necessary.
Any tips on where to go? I'm seeing a lot of escort recommendations but not so much about massage places.
Thank you guys.
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[QUOTE=Talavi;2688220]Hi all and thank in advance.
I'm coming to Lisbon for the first time and looking for a massage experience.
I know the scene in Barcelona pretty well and looking for a similar experience in Lisbon.
An erotic massage, both naked & full interaction, BJ and cum on lady is a plus but not necessary.
Any tips on where to go? I'm seeing a lot of escort recommendations but not so much about massage places.
Thank you guys.[/QUOTE]This is the most reviewed massage parlor that offers erotic massage. It also offers full service, but you should ask for the Relaxing Massage. There isn't the kind of demarcation of services that your post seems to suggest. Every full service escort in Lisbon will do the service you describe. So you can see any reviewed escort and just ask for the services you described. You can get a cheeseburger at McDonalds instead of a Big Mac or a Quarter Pounder. But since escorts sell time, you just won't get a price break.
[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
In addition, Kama gave everyone two of his favorites who advertise massage, but obviously provide full service.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
And this lady is well thought of on the local board, especially for massage and oral sex (CIM is generally available, according to reviews), in addition to full service. But most reviewers say the highlight with her is the massage and oral sex.
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/LaraShulthz[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Selecta;2686119]What are your thoughts on places like Elefante Branco or Black Tie.[/QUOTE]Elefante Branco.
Get place, a lot of talent in all shapes and sizes.
They will quote you double of what the will actually take.
Expect them to want to seal the deal quick, unless you spend a lot of drinks.
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A couple more to mention
It has been a great few weeks for this forum, and a person scrolling through the last half dozen pages can probably find 40 or so fine escorts to see, with a variety of ages and looks, but all of them being GFE and BBBJ.
Here are a couple of additions. Escort Privada has added a lot of new ladies to the roster who don't have reviews yet. Mist R of course listed as 18, which isn't accurate, but the lower the weight in kilograms, the younger the age.
One if the new ladies, Beatriz Martins, got her first review on the local board from a guy with several reviews, and it was an excellent 9 out of 10, which confirmed that BBBJ and CIM is available. He put Beatriz's age at 26.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/beatriz-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Beatriz-Martins-6504.html[/URL]
Here is the review from the local board, translated to English:
"This beautiful GP Beatriz is her name and she was in Lisbon for a short time because she usually works for the band from the Algarve. Quick appointment and after a few hours there was the gp. Punctual friendly and classy very classy. The private escort should take this gp and be an example for some. A beautiful girl nice attractive summary has the complete pack. Simply divine.
Oral: nice and deep to the end.
Vagina: for the tight.
Weather: spectacular.
Body: has a nice ass of the best 4.
Breasts: natural and with beautiful tips of roses.
Armadillos: yes some but beautiful nothing exaggerating.
Kisses: yes and willing.
Summary:
Girl with her head in the right place, nice and who likes to give a good fuck. That she is there to please and does not deny anything. Of the best GPS that the pirvada escort has. Please do not ruin.
Note of 9 values because the girl really has everything to be a great gp if not one of the best in Lisbon. I don't give it 10 because it needs to make some improvements. But few."
The other lady worth reminding everyone of is an independent escort lady who goes by the names Eva Sanchez and Jennifer PT. She has several favorable reviews here on ISG and pages of favorable reviews on the local review board. Classic pretty brunette around 30 years old with big boobs and a big butt. She does BBBJ but not CIM. She does not offer anal sex. She is always described as sensual and really into the session. And most importantly for this board, she is tourist friendly, speaks good English, and offers both incall and outcall.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
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2nd FR. Lisbon
Hi everyone,
My FR on Silvia Nunes .
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Silvia%C2%A0Nunes-6041.html[/URL]
Appointment. Very easy on what is app. Only outcall. Very quick in responding to all my queries. Asked for my hotel room booking document.
Price - 150/60. I booked for 60 min.
About her assets.
Face. Sexy face (She is Portuguese but has some ancestors from Angola, Africa. So I guess this combination has worked well).
Body. Tall. Not completely slim. Has some fat around belly.
Boobs. Very big and saggy. Not very appealing to me.
Vagina. Ok and tight.
Ass. OK. Average. I am not much interested in Ass.
Hair. Long, thick and black.
My experience.
She reached on time. I opened the door and was very happy and excited to see this sexy lady. She came inside and we hugged each other for few minutes.
She asked for her payment and I gave her.
Then she went for shower and came in Towel. I thrown her on the bed and started licking her body. It was good body licking session for 5-10 min.
Kiss / DFK. She was ok with Kiss and did not allow DFK. But while kissing her, I got very bad smell from her mouth which was very disappointing for me. I lost my erection due to that bad smell.
Oral. She started giving me a nice Oral (BBBJ). It was good 10 min session which I enjoyed and I got my erection back. I just decided not to kiss her to enjoy the remaining session. I don't like DATY so did not try. But done a lot of fingering to charge her up.
Deed / action. We started with Missionary and continued for 10 min. Then I thought to try doggy while pulling her long hair. But I clearly felt that she was not supporting for Doggy position (was not coming in a proper position to insert my boy). I tried but failed. So had to continue with Missionary again. She was wet after 5 min.
During the session, she also coughed many times which made me very uncomfortable. She did not tell me earlier, else I would have cancelled our meeting.
Oral / BBBJ. Finally, I decided to continue with BBBJ to finish it off. In the middle she told me that it is going deep throat and she will charge extra for Deep throat. I continued with oral, while pulling and playing with her hair. I asked If I can come on her hairs for which she denied and offered to come on her boobs.
CIM. She was ok with CIM and I finally loaded part in CIM and part in her boobs.
Time watcher. She tried her best to unload me very quickly. But even after 1 HR, when I did not come, she started saying continuously, that time is up and I have to come quickly. Instead of saying me this, If she would have focused on giving more pleasure, it would have been more easy and satisfying for me. However, I asked her the same and then she even took my boy deep throat multiple times. She finally allowed to do very rough and deep oral. It was very hard and deep oral, that her face became full red and she stared enjoying and moaning. I don't know what happened to her but she took my boy and even started rubbing it against her face. Finally I was able to get a very long (minimum 40 min BBBJ and deepthroat with long hair pulling). I unloaded in CIM, on her face and on boobs. She was not very happy with my cum on her face but it was already late for her (20 min more than what was agreed).
She cleaned herself quickly.
While going she told me that she enjoyed the long session. But her knees and mouth is paining a lot.
Overall. Not very happy due to bad mouth smell, coughing in between, and not supported for Doggy position.
Happy with oral performance and not asking for extra money for extra time.
I will give 7/10.
Cheers.
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Marta Castro
Hi gents, enjoying my time in Lisbon. I have several interactions, and will report on these later, but thought I'd take a few min and report on the lady that just left my hotel room. Marta Castro [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Marta-Castro-6489.html[/URL].
Contacted her via Whapsapp. Very quick to respond and she was at my hotel in 30 min. Good looking girl, pretty face, nice body. Perhaps 1 or 2 extra pounds around the middle but who doesn't. Advertises as 19, but probably early to mid 20's. Quite chatty in the room and made it clear that everything was on the table. Started out with an exceptionally good BJ uncovered. When we moved to the main event, started with her on all fours, transferred to missionary and back to all 4's. I'm not usually too fussed about anal, but when in Portugal. Finished in her ass. The girl can take some stroke. No complaints ever.
She was up for a 2nd round but I declined. She gave me a perfunctory massage while we chatted for a while and then left.
Pre-covid, I traveled the world and have sampled the delights of many countries. For 150 euros, this girl is a definite keeper.
Stirling.
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Thanks! She was on my "maybe take a chance" list for next time.
[QUOTE=Stirling;2690053]Hi gents, enjoying my time in Lisbon. I have several interactions, and will report on these later, but thought I'd take a few min and report on the lady that just left my hotel room. Marta Castro [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL] and [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Marta-Castro-6489.html[/URL].
Stirling.[/QUOTE]
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Reliable high end escort in Lisbon
Hello all,
I will be in Lisbon and Cascais next week for a conference. I would like to ask the wise men of the forum (since it is my first time in Lisbon. Please see my previous posting) is there a high end reliable escort service in Lisbon? If it is with some submissive fetish girls even better, but just a good reliable escort service you can recommend I can trust will be very appreciated. I promise to report after the visit.
Best.
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2690323]Hello all,
I will be in Lisbon and Cascais next week for a conference. I would like to ask the wise men of the forum (since it is my first time in Lisbon. Please see my previous posting) is there a high end reliable escort service in Lisbon? If it is with some submissive fetish girls even better, but just a good reliable escort service you can recommend I can trust will be very appreciated. I promise to report after the visit..[/QUOTE]EscortPrivada seems to best fit what what you described.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/[/URL]
Soraia's first review on the local board indicates she is open to receiving spankings. How hard is unknown.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
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Elefante Branco
So if she ask for 300 it is possible to offer 150 and she go with you?
The drinks is 50 right?
And you need to offer minimum one drink?
[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2688920]Elefante Branco.
Get place, a lot of talent in all shapes and sizes.
They will quote you double of what the will actually take.
Expect them to want to seal the deal quick, unless you spend a lot of drinks.[/QUOTE]
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About Elefante branco
Elefante was good during covid. Free entrance. The girls charge 200 an hour, they could do 150 for half hour, I buy them a $25 drink.
Now is like $50 to get in with 2 drinks for me. I have to buy the girl a drink, and they charge $250-300 an hour. I try negotiating discount it goes to $200, but I can't go lower than that. Anyone know how to get price down to $150?
Also, I want to meet some Ukrainian girls that came from Ukraine that wants to work as escort, what website can I meet them?/ do they hangout in Elefante Branco?
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Natural big tits escorts
Can anyone recommend escorts with very large natural breasts (E cup or larger)? Preferably with CIM and in their 20's, but not a must. Can't seem to find many on [URL]apartadox.com[/URL] or [URL]escortprivada.com[/URL].
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Jacko234;2690464]Can anyone recommend escorts with very large natural breasts (E cup or larger)? Preferably with CIM and in their 20's, but not a must. Can't seem to find many on [URL]apartadox.com[/URL] or [URL]escortprivada.com[/URL].
Thanks![/QUOTE]Soraia Albuquerque is all-natural. Been there, can attest to it. Mongerer88 can speak to Sara Valente; I believe he said she is natural with a lift.
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2690323]Hello all,
I will be in Lisbon and Cascais next week for a conference. I would like to ask the wise men of the forum (since it is my first time in Lisbon. Please see my previous posting) is there a high end reliable escort service in Lisbon? If it is with some submissive fetish girls even better, but just a good reliable escort service you can recommend I can trust will be very appreciated. I promise to report after the visit.
Best.[/QUOTE]I cannot speak to the fetish aspect at all, but follow-up question: do you want someone who will make a good dinner companion as well or just for fun in your room?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2690604]Soraia Albuquerque is all-natural. Been there, can attest to it. Mongerer88 can speak to Sara Valente; I believe he said she is natural with a lift.[/QUOTE]Yes, I think either of them would be a great choice for Jacko. Sara would be late 20's and her BBBJ / CIM is spectacular. She got the lift because her large natural breasts occasionally showed some stretch marks toward the top, but the procedure fixed that. Soraia is younger than Sara and most would likely view her as having a cuter face. Soraia definitely gets compliments in reviews regarding her breasts.
Jacko is not being particularly realistic. In Portugal, you are going to get a few naturally busty women who have relatively large natural breasts proportionate to body size, but not E Cups. They don't come from a tribe where women develop huge natural breasts in their early twenties. And fortunately, obesity is not a thing in Portugal among young people. And the diet does not consist of animals that are fed huge quantities of growth hormones that some young women are apparently as susceptible to as the animals were.
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Jacko might want to look at this valuable review.
Andreia Martins appears quite busty in the phots and received a favorable review, especially in terms of oral sex.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DysonAlberta;2654615]Trip Report.
Tried 2 Threesomes. Both failed as I couldn't get hard enough (was exhausted due to travels). But still felt its worth writing this based on the experience I had as the information may come in handy for someone else.
All the girls were from Escort Privada. No middleman, you directly use the number listed for each girl and contact her to setup things. Luckily most girls I choose spoke English (seems most people in Portugal speak decently good English compared to a lot of other countries). I still send my messages in Portuguese by translating them from English using Google Translate and then later on ask if they speak English.
1. Soraia Alburquerque and Andreia Martins (300 for 1 h).
I reached out to Soraia and wrote my first message in Portuguese but she replied back in English (she must have picked on imperfect translation). The communication was smooth from there on all in English. Someone had said good things about her here hence I choose her. She gave me names of few other girls she likes doing duo's with among which I asked who's her favorite and she mentioned it's Andreia. So booked a threesome with them both and they arrived 5 minutes early..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2690457]I want to meet some Ukrainian girls that came from Ukraine that wants to work as escort, what website can I meet them?/ do they hangout in Elefante Branco?[/QUOTE]Even if some of them will end up working as escorts, don't you think it's a bit cruel to be eagerly waiting for women fleeing a violent and bloody war?
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2690620]Yes, I think either of them would be a great choice for Jacko. Sara would be late 20's and her BBBJ / CIM is spectacular. She got the lift because her large natural breasts occasionally showed some stretch marks toward the top, but the procedure fixed that. Soraia is younger than Sara and most would likely view her as having a cuter face. Soraia definitely gets compliments in reviews regarding her breasts.
Jacko is not being particularly realistic. In Portugal, you are going to get a few naturally busty women who have relatively large natural breasts proportionate to body size, but not E Cups. They don't come from a tribe where women develop huge natural breasts in their early twenties. And fortunately, obesity is not a thing in Portugal among young people. And the diet does not consist of animals that are fed huge quantities of growth hormones that some young women are apparently as susceptible to as the animals were.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys.
I also found this girl but seems to be an old ad? Not sure if she's still working as I can't find her on any of the modern sites. Anyone have any info?
Gabriela Borges.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/gabriela-borges?utf8=&[/URL]#10003;&location=Lisbon.
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Luana Paiva
Also, can anyone confirm breast size of Luana Paiva? Photos make them look pretty big but looks slightly photoshopped.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/luana-paiva/[/URL]
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Jacko234;2690768]Thanks guys.
I also found this girl but seems to be an old ad? Not sure if she's still working as I can't find her on any of the modern sites. Anyone have any info?
Gabriela Borges.
[URL]https://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/gabriela-borges?utf8=&[/URL]#10003;&location=Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Gabriela Borges, the real one, was a well thought of Escort Privada lady. All 8's, 9's and 10's on her reviews.
There is no indication that she went independent, and that old ad was her Escort Privada phone number.
Gabriela was not reported as having gone independent, and presumably she returned to the south part of Brazil.
I don't believe that EP uses that phone number any longer for any of the current ladies.
A Google search revealed hits on random advertisement websites for that number with various ladies using various pictures.
I believe you are chasing ghosts with those old outdated ads. I don't understand why, given the pages and pages of reviews and recommendations on the forum.
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Bump for Jacko. This post has the English translation of Luana Paiva's one review on the local board.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2675256]Some updates.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
Carolina Belmont was with Escort Privada for a short time. She basically gets all 9's and 10's in reviews and is consistently described as being beautiful and intelligent and does CIM. Not sure how her English is, but the guy seeming to be interested in a dinner date might send her a WhatsApp message and see about English fluency. She is a few dollars more expensive than other escorts. Here is a typical review of Carolina Belmont, translated into English from the local board.
"I was with Helena twice (2 h each time) in December 2020, both times were similar so this TD will be an overview.
Helena is a 5 star girl and it was the first GP I took the real risk of falling in love with, so it was also the first GP I called twice in a short time.
Helena is beautiful and didn't refuse anything (she just didn't swallow and I didn't ask about anal because I'm not a fan) and despite having breast implants the work was done with good taste, Helena's body was the best I've ever had the privilege of playing. She has a teen body with everything in place and velvet-soft skin, a true goddess..[/QUOTE]
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Reviews?
Does anyone have any reports on [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-ArianaSantiago-6545.html[/URL].
Ariana Santiago.
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[QUOTE=SecurityBanana;2690821]Does anyone have any reports on [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-ArianaSantiago-6545.html[/URL].
Ariana Santiago.[/QUOTE]She has three reviews on the local board. 6's and 7's out of 10.
The biggest problem is that she is CBJ only, and doesn't try to make up for it elsewhere since she is a reluctant kisser.
In other words, she is not GFE.
The reviews are from a few years ago, so she would be in her early 30's now.
Here is the translated version of her best review on the local board.
"Artistic name: Ariana Santiago.
Nationality: tuga.
Age: advertises 25, will have a few more powders.
Height: petite.
Color: white.
Hair: blond.
Eyes: light.
Face: pretty.
Body: elegant pocket, the photos are faithful.
Chest: a good job.
Tail: good within the proportion.
Belly: Danone.
Rata: smooth.
Tattoos and piercings: some tattoos, which are not shown in the photos and two piercings that appear in the photos.
Oral 7/10 : with gabardine, so as not to catch a cold; but with good intensity and suction, pity the total contempt for the neighborhood.
Vaginal: 8/10.
Anal: says it doesn't.
Price: 100€/1 h.
Payment: at the beginning.
Hygiene: nothing to point out.
Apartment: room in a well-known house, Eden, room with bed, shower and AC.
At the end of last week I went to meet this Ariana who has very appealing photos. The girl is beautiful and very friendly. After a solo bath, she appears there and tries to "sell" a massage, which is nothing more than a weakness. Going straight to courtship, she dedicates herself to orality, which doesn't hurt, but with three small problems: it's cloaked, she has a tendency to put a lot of hands and despises the suburbs. In phoda, the only limitation is the anal, which she doesn't do. She accepts positions well and is active qb, tight and without excess of theatrics. She tested herself ppmm. Cow girl, canzana and ladecos, with good participation and without restrictions or annoyances. The girl lets it move and accepts fingerprints, but kissing is not her thing. I didn't know and I enjoyed knowing. With the aforementioned limitations, it's an hour well spent. ".
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2690607]I cannot speak to the fetish aspect at all, but follow-up question: do you want someone who will make a good dinner companion as well or just for fun in your room?[/QUOTE]I would like both if possible. A girl that can hang out with me, go to the beach, but also good fun in the room. Thank you.
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Forget Massage Republic
Massage Republic is the opposite of reliable, and old Escort Privada ads are an example of why. The agency puts the ads up, but they are never removed when the girl goes inactive. There are many, many ghost profiles there. Also, most of the reviews are fake and many photos are unverified.
There are so many reliable sources on Portugal, so why bother with crap like that?
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Carolina Belmont
Jacko,
I stuck with naturally endowed girls because of your stated interesr; Carolina is not. That said, the work she had done was top notch. As for her services, I was with her a couple of months ago -- you can find my comments if you dig back a few pages. She is 170/ h, outcall only and worth it.
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About escorre Aysha Gourgel
Good afternoon,
Does anyone have updated information about this escort?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Aysha-Gourgel-5060.html[/URL]
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Strips clubs in Portugal
Hello mates,
I was trying to figure out, how the strip clubs / gentleman's clubs work in Portugal (Lisbon / Porto).
Planning my trip next week.
Is the Portugal strip clubs like the once in Latin America? (Colombia / Brazil),
We can see the girls, and then take them to a room?
Or its just like seeing them dancing.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2690967]Massage Republic is the opposite of reliable, and old Escort Privada ads are an example of why. The agency puts the ads up, but they are never removed when the girl goes inactive. There are many, many ghost profiles there. Also, most of the reviews are fake and many photos are unverified.
There are so many reliable sources on Portugal, so why bother with crap like that?[/QUOTE]Can you please share the reliable sources in Portugal? Which websites?
Thank sin advance.
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[QUOTE=Jomartins;2691045]Good afternoon,
Does anyone have updated information about this escort?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Aysha-Gourgel-5060.html[/URL][/QUOTE]She has one review on the local board. The review indicates that the oral sex was CBJ, but there is no way of knowing if that was his choice, or her rules. The report indicates no kissing, but it is not clear if the reviewer sought kissing. So here is the translated version of that one review.
"Nationality: Angolan.
Face: Beautiful.
Tits: Good but not natural.
Ass: Very good and hard ass.
Vagina: Tight and smells good.
Height: Low.
Attitude: A little shy but friendly.
Oral: 7/10.
Vaginal: 8/10.
Anal: doesn't.
Kiss: No.
Location: Av Joao XXI.
The photos don't deceive.
Reception Received at the door in lingerie, took her hand in hand to the bedroom; clean fragrant and well-appointed room with shower cabin, I took a shower there is no answer without taking a shower.
It started with a small conversation and then with a massage it moved on to an oral massage (with condom) but very well done, the vaginal one was competent and allows for several positions.
From the little free time she talked well and seems cultured, she is shy so not very friendly, the great difficulty was to schedule a delay in responding to contacts by whatsapp by call the service is friendly and explains the values and services well."
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It's not open
[QUOTE=MarkJohnny;2633245]This is the price list I got. 120 euro only gets you 40 minutes.[/QUOTE]Can someone please resend this?
It won't open.
Thanks guys.
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Apartadox, Momentos de Prazer, Docemassagem, Portalprivado and Somassagens are the photo-verified sites I keep an eye on. The agency Escort Privada, who you will see referred to a lot on this thread, advertises on Apartadox.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2691065]Can you please share the reliable sources in Portugal? Which websites?
Thank sin advance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2691065]Can you please share the reliable sources in Portugal? Which websites?
Thank sin advance.[/QUOTE]Not 100 percent sure what you are looking for. If you want a BDSM full service escort who speaks enough English to spend some quality time with, you would likely start with the Apartadox specialty page. I thought that is what your first post about Lisbon indicated you are interested in.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-bdsm-dominacao-femdom-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
Unfortunately, that doesn't answer two questions. How many are exclusively Dommes only (I think you mentioned you wanted a submissive), and which of them speak English.
We do know half of some of the questions, especially regarding two escortprivada ladies advertising in that portion of the Apartadox section, Sara Valente and Joana Montenegro.
Sara Valente speaks fluent English and is fun to hang out with. She likes tourists and she is extremely sexual. Honestly, I think she is a domme only when she includes BDSM in her escort activities, but you would simply need to ask Escort Privada that question. I think one of your prior posts reviewing a lady in another country mentioned a Mistress, so if you are happy with a BDSM full service escort session with a top-only escort, you should give Sara a look. And of course let us know if she bottoms and switches roles. Many escorts change their offerings over time.
Joana Montenegro received one review on the American review board. The guy liked her and said she spoke good English. He said her body wasn't quite as flawless as the pictures suggest, but it was very good. As with Sara, you would simply need to ask Escort Privada which of the classic three roles (domme, switch, sub) she does as a BDSM escort.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
Although she doesn't advertise in the BDSM section of Apartadox, as I mentioned before, Soraia Albuquerque's first review on the local board indicated that she was okay with receiving a spanking as part of the session. She is one of the highest reviewed EP ladies, so there is little doubt that your session would be a good one, but I believe that Ex Expatriate let us know that Soraia doesn't speak fluent English. So if that is important to you, you should take that into consideration.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
You might note that BDSM as part of an escort session isn't as commonplace in Portugal as it is in the United Kingdom. So you won't find quite as many ads featuring it.
Although she isn't an EP lady, one ad of a reviewed lady clearly indicates she is a submissive, and that is of Jessica Souza.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Jessica-Souza-6251.html[/URL]
Jessica's first review on the local board was very good, but the reviews after that were not very good. But as you likely know if you see many submissives, many guys simply don't know what to do with one. So you may see Jessica and really like her, especially if you like anal sex. BDSM submissive escorts are usually intelligent, bore very easily, and the turn-on light switch only comes on when you are doing what they like. I see an escort in Madrid who is like that and she gets plenty of lousy reviews. So much in fact that she doesn't even like getting reviews. But when you tie that particular lady up, spank her, and do anal sex the way she wants it, she can make a guy very happy. I don't know if Jessica's recent negative reviews are because her first review was an outlier, or if the subsequent reviewers just didn't know what to do with a submissive BDSM escort.
But one thing to consider about Jessica is that it seems clear that she doesn't speak much, if any, English. So she may not be what you are looking for, even if she turns out to be the only submissive BDSM full-service escort of the bunch.
Hopefully that steers you in the right direction, and at least narrows down the list so that you can ask them if they provide what you are looking for.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2685927]My second favorite EP girl ever has returned, and as an independent doing outcalls only, Anna Balthazar:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1255[/URL]
The last time I saw Anna was November 2020. She is a hippie girl of Ukrainian extraction, brought up in Portugal. She is in her late 20's and is a mother (it showed), but beautiful, was all natural at the time (still looks that way to me), and offered a wonderful GFE experience. She remains in my Top 5 Lisbon courtesans ever.
I don't know what she is charging now, since I am not there. I have no reason to ask that (yet).
Be good to her. She deserves it.[/QUOTE]It appears she is going by the name Adriana Rossi in her new Apartadox ad. The phone number is the same, as well as the descriptions.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
And Avivas may want to take note that Adriana is advertising in the Escort & BDSM section of Apartadox, and she is highly recommended by a trusted ISG member.
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[QUOTE=Mike963;2691055]Hello mates,
I was trying to figure out, how the strip clubs / gentleman's clubs work in Portugal (Lisbon / Porto).
Planning my trip next week.
Is the Portugal strip clubs like the once in Latin America? (Colombia / Brazil),
We can see the girls, and then take them to a room?
Or its just like seeing them dancing.[/QUOTE]Portugal in general is nothing like Colombia / Brazil. More initial interactions for true commercial sex are done via electronic devices in Portugal. The strip joints try to cater to a clientele (both stripper and customer) often not looking for penetrative sex, even though strangely enough the ladies at the strip joints are more expensive than prostitutes on a minute-by-minute basis.
I am not saying that no one ever gets laid in the private rooms (they aren't apartments) in the strip joints, but here are some good recent comments from well-respected posters on the local board regarding one of the more popular strip joints.
"Re: "Photus" - S. João de Deus Shopping Center.
I visited Photus and I really liked it.
Entry is €20 with the right to 1 drink.
Regarding the squad, that night there were only 4 or 5, they were few but they were all real bombs! Dead.
There was a Portuguese woman there, but I didn't speak to her. The rest were from the east. The squad is all in their twenties.
I spoke to a Russian and a Ukrainian, both of whom were very good. As I found the most friendly Ukrainian, I paid for a private one with her, 45€ for 5 min. She danced and undressed, let it move and feel, she just said not to touch the bird. And the 5 minutes passed in an instant.
I still tried to figure out if he would do anything extra, outside of there and on another occasion, but he was peremptory: "I'm not a prostitute"-X.
I also tried to find out if colleagues do extras but she also said no.
And that's how I realized that in Lisbon it's hard to get along with Eastern courtesans, there are Ukrainians and Russians working in strip bars but for something else it's hard.
About space, a little expensive but these types of places are always expensive, and an excellent quality squad!
"Because it's expensive, Confrade, the problem with these places is the price, I only left €65 there (€20 entry + €45 private for only 5 minutes). After the private, she asked me for a drink, it would still be about 30 or 40 €, to which I refused and she said goodbye and went to the French."
" Yes these houses are full of tourists. They have €€€ for those luxuries.
They're places for a guy to go with friends for a drink, nothing more. For sex we go to the apartments. And that's what I did. At the end of the night, already alone, I looked for a GP who was still working until 01:00 and spent 40€."
"I was 21 years old and spent €300 a night in strip clubs, but then I discovered Portalprivado! : LOL:
Russians we had Nikitta or Nicas I don't remember well!
Who knows what I'm talking about? Huge fuck!
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And Avivis, I also note that Julia Nobrega of escortprivada also advertises on the BDSM / escort section of Apartadox, and I have bumped as part of this post the comments about Julia. This gives you one more profile to ask EP if she offers the fetish activities that interest you. Julia's reviews on the local board indicate that she is friendly and nice, much like Sara Valente.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/julia-nobrega/[/URL]
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2655624]Since Julia has come up, I will add my two cents.
I was with Julia early on, when she had only been in the trade for a month. She was pretty, friendly and exuberant. My own guess is she was 27 or 28 at the time, so right around 30 now. The pictures were quite accurate. As for the action, she was a good kisser, and a great and cooperative fuck. Her fake boobs are very fake, which is a turn off for some. But frankly, the only reason I have not been with her since is simple scheduling: she wasn't available when I was in Lisbon and asking.
That said, girls do sometimes lose their enthusiasm for the business over time while sticking with it. Just because she was great more than 2 years ago doesn't mean she is still great now -- but it's more to go on than a total unknown.[/QUOTE]
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Non-smokers
Heya, thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'm looking for recs in Lisbon for girls who don't smoke at all (sensitive nose; I can smell it their hair if they do, and it throws me off every time). Anyone got any tips?
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Thanks for the info so far Mongerer and others.
Couple more girls I want to find reviews on:
Daniela Santos.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Daniela-Santos-5712.html[/URL]
Karol Prado.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Karol-Prado-6548.html[/URL]
Cheers.
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Hi everyone,
I will be in Lisbon next week and will be my first time with an escort.
Still hesitating between few but wanted to thank all contributors to the reviews, it helped a lot!
I am concern about STDs as those girls are having loads of consumers.
Any tips apart from using a condom?
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I don't see any reviews of Karol Prado.
The reviews of Daniela Santos on the local board are mixed.
Daniela has received an 8, 8, 6 and 3 out of 10 on reviews on the local board.
The first two reviews were the 8's, and went downhill from there. But the 3 out of 10 was from a first time reviewer.
The complaints are that she doesn't kiss or have enough enthusiasm, and her incall place is downmarket.
The compliments are that she looks like the pictures, with a few extra pounds.
[QUOTE=Jacko234;2692040]Thanks for the info so far Mongerer and others.
Couple more girls I want to find reviews on:
Daniela Santos.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Daniela-Santos-5712.html[/URL]
Karol Prado.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Karol-Prado-6548.html[/URL]
Cheers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=WereNerd;2691421]Heya, thanks in advance for any suggestions. I'm looking for recs in Lisbon for girls who don't smoke at all (sensitive nose; I can smell it their hair if they do, and it throws me off every time). Anyone got any tips?[/QUOTE]Hi there,
I can recommend two Brazilian girls and one Portuguese girl, and one Portuguese / Ukrainian girl. They are all amazing and you can reach them with WhatsApp.
Usually brasilin girls tend to be more mechanized and less GFE, but these two are different. The Portuguese girl is super GFE and so beautiful.
Two Brazilian:
Jennifer PT / Eva Sanchez (she uses two names) and she is beautiful and with an amazing body its a good fuck. Her blowjob is with condom and doesn't do anal sex:
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
Isabella Fiorentini. Very GFE and beautiful body and face, big kisser and gives an amazing blowjob and she does anal sex:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Isabella-Fiorentini-6268.html[/URL]
Two Portuguese girl:
Adrianna. Model face with amazing cat looking green eyes, very dark hair and big tits. Amazing kisses with tongue, her blowjob is very wet and good and fucks with moaning. Doesn't do anal sex. She has her own site with one photo and usually she shares more photos trough WhatsApp:
[URL]https://adrianna4u.wixsite.com/adrianna[/URL]
Bianca Pereira. Has eastern European roots (Ukraine) and that's why she has a very eastern appearance, blonde, beautiful eyes and a fantastic body with increased breasts. She is very friendly and available by WhatsApp:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bianca-Pereira-4036.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bianca-pereira/[/URL]
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The first thing is to realize a condom offers excellent protection against most bugs, but not herpes or genital warts. The thing about those two is that they are grossly exaggerated and stigmatized in the West. For a typical Western population, 1 in 4 have herpes and 4 in 5 have warts. Odds are damn near total that you have already had sex with someone who has had one of those. Maybe they never developed symptoms (or you didn't) or it was "passed" by that time, but those numbers don't lie. Those bugs go around condoms easily, but those bugs are everywhere. Sex work is neither here nor there for those two.
The other thing is that chlamydia and gonorrhea can be passed orally. So if it absolutely matters, wrap up the entire time.
[QUOTE=ElDandy2;2692225]Hi everyone,
I will be in Lisbon next week and will be my first time with an escort.
Still hesitating between few but wanted to thank all contributors to the reviews, it helped a lot!
I am concern about STDs as those girls are having loads of consumers.
Any tips apart from using a condom?[/QUOTE]
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Having addressed that practical health note, if you decide that you have zero tolerance for risks in these. Activities 😊 then go for spas and massagistas.
A body to body nuru massage can be very hot, and hand jobs are zero risk.
You should make sure to ask for what they call decompressao ("decompression") and nao convivo ("living" being slang for sex).
[QUOTE=ElDandy2;2692225]Hi everyone,
I will be in Lisbon next week and will be my first time with an escort.
Still hesitating between few but wanted to thank all contributors to the reviews, it helped a lot!
I am concern about STDs as those girls are having loads of consumers.
Any tips apart from using a condom?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2692445]Having addressed that practical health note, if you decide that you have zero tolerance for risks in these. Activities 😊 then go for spas and massagistas.
A body to body nuru massage can be very hot, and hand jobs are zero risk.
You should make sure to ask for what they call decompressao ("decompression") and nao convivo ("living" being slang for sex).[/QUOTE]Thanks for your answers, I need to figure this out as I really want to spend time with one or some girls from Apartadox.
Maybe I'll ask for a massage and see how it ends while keeping it safe!
If so I'll try to give a review!
Side note, what is the "local board" everyone is talking about with reviews etc?
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How sure are you that Jennifer PT / Eva Sanchez is CBJ only?
All but one of her reviews on the local board, and all of her reviews here on ISG, are BBBJ (but no CIM).
One reviewer on the local board who put CBJ in the profile, then did the review as though that was her offering, is someone that prefers oral with a condom according to his other reviews.
We don't want to list her as a CBJ only lady if that is not the case, since about 90 percent of johns will automatically cross her off the list.
Her latest reviews in the local board indicate that her current incall is in a nicer area than her previous incall location.
[QUOTE=IanMoone;2692411]Hi there,
I can recommend two Brazilian girls and one Portuguese girl, and one Portuguese / Ukrainian girl. They are all amazing and you can reach them with WhatsApp.
Usually brasilin girls tend to be more mechanized and less GFE, but these two are different. The Portuguese girl is super GFE and so beautiful.
Two Brazilian:
Jennifer PT / Eva Sanchez (she uses two names) and she is beautiful and with an amazing body its a good fuck. Her blowjob is with condom and doesn't do anal sex:
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
Isabella Fiorentini. Very GFE and beautiful body and face, big kisser and gives an amazing blowjob and she does anal sex:..[/QUOTE]
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Curvy women
Hey,
I'll be visiting Lisbon soon and I am really interested in meeting some curvy women. Immediately, two that caught my eyes are.
Madalena Duque.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Madalena-Duque-6415.html[/URL]
And.
Raquel Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Raquel-Reis-5919.html[/URL]
Does anyone have any information / experience with them? Also, any other recommendations?
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=Sikada811;2692628]Hey,
I'll be visiting Lisbon soon and I am really interested in meeting some curvy women. Immediately, two that caught my eyes are.
Madalena Duque.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Madalena-Duque-6415.html[/URL]
And.
Raquel Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Raquel-Reis-5919.html[/URL]
Does anyone have any information / experience with them? Also, any other recommendations?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Madalena Duque is a relatively new Escort Privada lady who has not received any review yet, to the best of my knowledge. Any reviews or feedback would be great for Madalena Duque.
Raquel Reid's has two reviews on the local board, neither of which are spectacular. A 4 out of 10, and a 6 out of 10. Here is the translated version of the more detailed of the two reviews.
"I'll catch up on writing and unfortunately I have to post this negative TD despite Raquel being a tall hottie with a big pair.
Place: a shack on Miguel Bombarda.
WC: inside the bedroom. A trap without hot water.
Guy: beautiful (Cape Verdean) the girl is really pretty.
Chest: 9/10 I love it. As in the photos. They are big and natural, they sag a little. Miracles only with silicone.
Body: 8/10 new girl, without cellulite, toned well cared for.
Now the story begins. I tried to call 3 known hot girls and by chance they didn't answer; it was destined.
Oral: 2/10 put on gel gave 3 licks and started to beat one at 200 km / h. Had to tell him 4 times to slow down. After 10 seconds, the condom was already in hand.
In such a hurry and I always say to stop with my hand I ended up losing love at 60 bucks and asked to lie down and we went to the vaginal.
Vaginal: 7/10 puts more gel but it gets wet and it's tight. She has elasticity but no attitude and "madame" must always be squeezing them.
Attitude: 3/10.
To avoid and / or run away from this house. Raquel has the body and face to be in the 1st division. I don't know if she has a head. "
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Gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL].
If you decide to go the nuru with HJ route, focus on docemassagem and Somassagens. Most of the ladies on Apartadox are courtesans, so their massage performance won't be their strong point. Part of the fun of a good nuru massage is the show, if you understand my meaning.
[QUOTE=ElDandy2;2692599]Thanks for your answers, I need to figure this out as I really want to spend time with one or some girls from Apartadox.
Maybe I'll ask for a massage and see how it ends while keeping it safe!
If so I'll try to give a review!
Side note, what is the "local board" everyone is talking about with reviews etc?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2692801]Gp-[URL]pt.net[/URL].
If you decide to go the nuru with HJ route, focus on docemassagem and Somassagens. Most of the ladies on Apartadox are courtesans, so their massage performance won't be their strong point. Part of the fun of a good nuru massage is the show, if you understand my meaning.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing.
Any review or experience on tantricmoments. Pt?
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I was there 8 years ago. I haven't heard a peep about them in ages.
My only recent experience with that kind of service (very well done massage, HJ ending) is Athena, who is now out in Alfragide. She is marvelous at this sort of thing. I go out of my way for her, when she is around.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/athena/[/URL]
IIn Lisbon proper, I have read good things about Evah.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/evah/[/URL]
Past that, I haven't been paying close attention or else the lady works even farther out that Alfragide.
[QUOTE=ElDandy2;2692893]Thanks for sharing.
Any review or experience on tantricmoments. Pt?[/QUOTE]
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Thanks mate.
I'll steer away from Raquel then.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2692649]Madalena Duque is a relatively new Escort Privada lady who has not received any review yet, to the best of my knowledge. Any reviews or feedback would be great for Madalena Duque.
Raquel Reid's has two reviews on the local board, neither of which are spectacular. A 4 out of 10, and a 6 out of 10. Here is the translated version of the more detailed of the two reviews.
"I'll catch up on writing and unfortunately I have to post this negative TD despite Raquel being a tall hottie with a big pair.
Place: a shack on Miguel Bombarda.
WC: inside the bedroom. A trap without hot water.
Guy: beautiful (Cape Verdean) the girl is really pretty.
Chest: 9/10 I love it. As in the photos. They are big and natural, they sag a little. Miracles only with silicone.[/QUOTE]
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Inês
Link: https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/
This happened last Tuesday, April 26th. I took the express train from Porto to Lisbon so that I could see another Portuguese city and, of couse, fuck. I contacted Babi (the so-called Queen of Anal) a day in advance to make sure I got a chance to put her title to the test. The train was a little under 3 hours, but it went fast. The train left before 6 am in Porto so I was able to sleep for a lot of the ride.
I got off the train in Porto and started walking around. There was so light rain so I regretted not bringing my rain coat. However, I had a pretty heavy sweater on so it wasn't so bad. I pulled up my location in Google Maps and decided I would do some sight-seeing. I went down into a nearby metro location, purchased a day ticket, and rode down to the Pedro I square. It was cool seeing the wavy patterns in the tile. I walked around some more, but it was getting close to my scheduled time with Babi. I hopped back on the metro and made it to her area. I walked a few blocks and sent her a message on WhatsApp letting her know I was nearby. However, there was no response. I waited some more and messaged her again. Still, no response. I realized that Babi had bailed so I started looking at other options. Fortunately, the Lisbon forum on the Internaitonal Sex Guide gave me a great backup. Ines was highly recommended so I quickly contacted her on WhatsApp. She replied almost immediately and let me know her rates and boundaries. She basically did everything except for anal, and I was fine with that. I summoned an Uber and rode about 8 minutes to where Ines was located. I let her know I was there, she buzzed me in, and I went up the stairs. I walked up to the door, and it opened. Standing behind it was Ines.
Ines was in her early 30's and very attractive. She realized I spoke English and asked why didn't I say that earlier. I asked where she learned to speak English, and she said that when she was younger her family was supposed to travel to Canada. The trip never happened, but she learned the language pretty easily. Also, Ines is Portuguese. She gave me a kiss and put her tongue into my mouth, and I started grabbing her ass which was very soft and felt like satin. There was a light hint of smoke in her mouth which wasn't great, but I found her to be very attractive. We tongue kissed for a few seconds which was nice since the other girls I fucked in Portugal either didn't kissed or just allowed a peck on the lips. She asked if I wanted to shower, and I agreed since I was probably grungy from the train ride and walking around. She gave me a towel and showed me to the shower. It was a fancy shower with glass doors and a showerhead that curved from the wall to the point where the water came out. I quickly showered and returned to the room.
I got a good look at Ines, and had a short haircut. Her body is fit, and she was a little shorter than medium height. Her ass was nice and juicy. She immediately kneeled down when I walked near the bed and started sucking my dick after I dropped the towel. That shit felt really good. She licked down to my balls and started sucking them. I put my left leg on the bed, and she licked deeper to the bottom of my ball sack. I asked if she rimmed, and she said no. But, it felt really good. I put a hand on top of her head and just stood there enjoying the feeling of my balls in her mouth. Ines also lightly nipped me with her teeth between licks and sucks. It was just the right amount of pain to feel good. She went back to sucking my dick. I pulled my dick out of her mouth, leaned down, and shoved my dick into her mouth. We kissed for a few seconds, and I then put my dick back into her mouth.
She stood and had me lay in the bed. She then continued giving me head and alternated between sucking, licking, and light biting. Ines also licked down to my taint area and nicely serviced that area. Again, she didn't rim, but she got very close.
I was ready to fuck so she put on the condom with her mouth and got on top of me. By the way, I should mention that while Ines has a very nice body, her breasts are small and saggy. I've found that girls with super soft asses usually have saggy breasts (no matter their age). So, you won't be impressed by her breasts. Ines rode me slowly and then properly bounced up and down on my dick. I really enjoyed squeezing her soft ass while she did this. I put one hand on her throat while the other continued squeezing her ass. I love girls who don't mind light choking, and Ines was down for it. I then resumed squeezing her ass with both hands as she rode me. She seemed to cum from this. I asked her to confirm, and she said, "Couldn't you tell?" I assumed she meant that I should have felt her pussy tighten or contract from her orgasm, but I couldn't feel anything like that through the condom. I've only fucked one or two girls who I felt their pussies get tighter when they orgasmed, and their vaginas were very tight to begin with.
I then moved us into missionary and started fucking on top of her. I leaned down to kiss her and she kissed back with passion. I put both of her legs on my shoulders and started to really give it to her. However, that caused the bed to make a lot of noise, and she had us move over to the chair next to the bed. She had her knees on the chair and faced the wall. I slid into her and continued fucking. I started going hard into her pussy, and she seemed to love that. I put her hair into a ponytail and pulled down forcing her to look up at me. We locked eyes, and she really looked like she was enjoying it. I let go of her hair and grabbed her waist as I continued fucking her. Her breathing quickened, and she had another orgasm.
We moved back over to the bed, and she got on all fours while I stood behind her. We did doggy style fucking, and she knew to reach between her legs and caress my balls just the way I like. I pulled her hair again and used the other hand to fondle her breasts. We went back to missionary and resumed fucking. I asked her if she came, and she smiled and said, "Yes, I know I'm easy". I was ready to cum so I let her know I wanted to cum in her mouth. I laid down on the bed, and she removed the condom. She did her licking, sucking, and biting routine which felt really good. This went on for a few minutes, and I had her lick my balls while I jacked off. When I was about to cum, she moved her mouth back to my dick and sucked my orgasm out of me. She kept sucking as my dick continued twitching. When my spasms subsided, she took a wipe and spat into it.
I took a shower and left after chit chatting with her.
All in all, Ines seemed to instinctively know what I wanted without saying anything. I think she really loves sex and seemed to easily cum in cowgirl or doggy. If I ever return to Lisbon, I will probably see her again.
I had booked Eller later in the day, but I was so satisfied by Ines that I canceled with her.
[B]Here's my WhatsApp exchange with Ins if you're interested in knowing what to expect. It's translated from Portuguese to English in Google Translate, but I think you'll get the gist.[/B]
Atanion: Hi Ins, are you available at 11:30 this morning for 30 minutes?
Ines Lisbon: Hello dear.
I am Ins.
I do sensual body-to-body massage with an erotic component with the right to manual and / or oral decompression for the values 8203;of:
30 minutes: 60.
45 minutes: 80.
1 h: 100.
If you want socializing as a way to end the massage, the values 8203;are.
30 minutes: 80.
45 minutes: 100.
1 h: 120.
I don't practice anal, I don't practice socializing without protection regardless of the offers apart that can be made.
I'm working in Penha de Frana.
From Monday to Friday between 11.30 am and 8 pm.
Any questions ask.
Kisses.
Ins.
Atanion: Yes, 30 minutes: 80.
Atanion: Okay?
Ines Lisbon: Yes.
Ines Lisbon: 11:30 h.
Ines Lisbon: Name?
Atanion: Yes.
Ines Lisbon: Name?
Atanion: my name is Atanion.
Ines Lisbon: Okay.
Atanion: I'll be there at 11:30.
Ines Lisbon: Okay dear.
Ines Lisbon: Do you know where it is?
Ines Lisbon: Don't need an address or anything?
Atanion: Yes, I need the address.
Ines Lisbon: Yeah.
Ines Lisbon: Rua Jacinto Nunes.
Atanion: Thank you.
Ines Lisbon: Hello.
Ines Lisbon: So you're close?
Atanion: Yes.
Atanion: I'm here.
Ines Lisbon: 1st.
Atanion: are you going to open the door?
Ines Lisbon: If you touch.
Ines Lisbon: Ring the bell dear.
Atanion: which bell?
Ines Lisbon: 1 right.
Ines Lisbon: 1st right.
Atanion: Okay.
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Thanks Atanion for the great report. I just noticed that Ines received an excellent review in the international section of the big American review board. So with your review, Kama's recommendation, and that one, she is three for three. I couldn't get the link in your post to open, so here is her link.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2692995]Ines received an excellent review in the international section of the big American review board][/QUOTE]What is that board?
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2693262]What is that board?[/QUOTE]One that we can't mention without it being *ed out.
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[QUOTE=James006;2690438]So if she ask for 300 it is possible to offer 150 and she go with you?
The drinks is 50 right?
And you need to offer minimum one drink?[/QUOTE]Entrance with drinks is 50.
You'll most likely be negotiating. It depends on the girl, not all would go for 150. And also at what time you arrive plays a part.
I didn't hear about a minimum drink #.
[QUOTE=James006;2690438]So if she ask for 300 it is possible to offer 150 and she go with you?
The drinks is 50 right?
And you need to offer minimum one drink?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MasterRochi;2690457]Elefante was good during covid. Free entrance. The girls charge 200 an hour, they could do 150 for half hour, I buy them a $25 drink.
Now is like $50 to get in with 2 drinks for me. I have to buy the girl a drink, and they charge $250-300 an hour. I try negotiating discount it goes to $200, but I can't go lower than that. Anyone know how to get price down to $150?
Also, I want to meet some Ukrainian girls that came from Ukraine that wants to work as escort, what website can I meet them?/ do they hangout in Elefante Branco?[/QUOTE]I was there near the end of lockdown.
Didn't see any eastern European girls. All local or from Brazil. Could be they come one specific days.
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Punk or Goth Girls in Lisbon
Hi, I'm visiting Lisbon in a couple of weeks and am looking for Suicide Girl type escorts. Does anyone know of punk / goth girls in Lisbon. Heavily tattooed, dyed neon hair, etc. ? I would appreciate any leads anyone could provide me.
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[QUOTE=ElFlaco172;2624921]So, I have a couple of appointments with escorts tomorrow but as a virgin I just couldn't wait one more days haha. So, I went through my wishlist and tried to find someone that was available ASAP. I contacted Eller and was at her apartment within an hour. First impressions, she was petite which I liked (5"1) and pretty fit. Hygiene was perfect. I have a very sensitive nose so smell is a big turn off for me but in this instance the hygiene was pristine. BBBJ was ok but maybe its just not my thing seeing as its my first BJ (I can come back to that review once I get more refs). Kissing was great, she seemed very into it and we french kissed the whole session. Sex was great though she only speaks Portuguese so it was hard communicating what I wanted. Overall ID give it a 7/10. The language issue was the biggest issue for me but great experience overall.
P.S. I really want to review every escort experiences I have because I find the number of reviews is lacking. If you got feedback on the review or want more info and ill post as much info as I can.[/QUOTE]Bump for Laobaixing. Eller has three pages of reviews on the local board. Mostly 7's and 8's, with a few 9's. Very consistent with this review. She clearly has a lot of tats and gives off the suicide girl vibe, even though the hair is black.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428.html[/URL]
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Hello gentlemen,
I am visiting Lisbon this week and just had a first experience I want to share with you.
I always wanted to receive a Nuru body body massage and booked at [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt[/URL].
Price:
30 minutes 100€.
1 hour 180€.
I booked for 30 minutes and got to the building were their office is located.
A lady wearing a simple towel opened the door. Her name was Luna and I was.
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Damn I got disconnected, here is the full review.
Hello gentlemen,
I recently got interested into trying escorts and sensual massages, which made me join this forum.
Today I had my first experience that I thought would be good to review and share here.
I am visiting Lisbon this week and always wanted to try a Nuru massage so I found one that had good reviews and where the girls doing the massages were good looking.
[URL]Https://www.tantricmoments.pt[/URL]
I called them to book a massage and know their rates. For a Nuru massage 1 hour is 160 euros, 30 minutes 100 euros.
I booked for 30 minutes and got to the building.
When the door opened a young lady wearing only a towel greeted me. She was Luna, the girl I wanted to get massaged from.
I waited few minutes in a waiting room and she handed me a booklet with the massages and prices. I maintained the Nuru massage and asked her to be the masseuse. She replied that a colleague of her will be taking care of me.
An Indian beauty responding to the name Alexia took me to a room for me to shower.
When done she came back and got naked.
Alexis looks like in her late twenties, early thirties. She was around 1.80 m, had dark hair and some the cup non natural boobs, which was a pity. Her body was covered with multiple tattoos on her back, thighs, underboob (not on her pictures). A beauty that I rate 7/10 for the fake boobs as not my taste.
[URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/pt/galleries/alexia-massagista-tantrica-e-sensual-em-lisboa-picoas[/URL]
She sat behind me and started to caress my back with her hands, pressing her breast against me. She caressed my neck, my shoulders, my hair, my face, my chest.
She smelled incredibly good. This part was actually my favourite.
Then she had LE lay on my back, put some oil on my chest and came against me, her breast against my chest. Her boobs were heavy and hard, I did not enjoyed it but it only lasted 30 seconds.
Then she got onto her knees, grabbed my penis and started to proceed to a handjob. I was not expecting this to happen so quickly but knowing the massage was supposed to end with a Lingam massage I thought it was an "amuse bouche" before the nuru to start.
But it never started, she just sat there rubbing my dick like a robot. At some point she took my hand and placed it in her thigh so I caressed it and gently went to her boobs, caressing it. But nothing. No expression, no emotion, I felt like I was having a handjob from a robot. It was so mechanic, with so much oil that I did not felt a lot and I did not succeed to get excited as it looked like she was not here with me.
After 30 minutes she asked if I was going to come and I answered no. I took a shower and she "washed me" for 1 minute before leaving.
I was really disappointed as I came for a massage with a happy ending and I got none but left light weighted of 100 euros and the balls still full.
My rating of Alexia is 4.5/10.
7 for her body.
2 for the experience.
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That is a shame.
From what I have been reading on the local board, a good nuru massage with HJ should be 100 or 120/ h. My suggestion is that you never spend more than that on an unknown and unreviewed massagista. Don't make those missteps any more expensive than they need to be!
To put this into perspective, for 160 you could Uber to see my goddess Athena for an hour or out to Alges and Linda a Vehla (there are several options there) and back, have a vastly superior massage, and Uber back with a little money leftover.
[QUOTE=ElDandy2;2694301]Damn I got disconnected, here is the full review.
My rating of Alexia is 4.5/10.
7 for her body.
2 for the experience.[/QUOTE]
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It is what it is my friend, life is made from experiences and at least there is now a rating for those who want to try.
I'll try to spend some time with some other girls to rebound!
Obviously I will post a review!
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Example
A review of this lady, Daphne, from Delirium Spa appeared in the local board yesterday.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1115-dafne-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
He wrote it was a 45 min massage for 100. It was a body to body, HJ massage, the review makes it sound like it was very well done, and he gave it a 9 out of 10 score.
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With noting that Monica Galvao is back on the EP line-up. She was gone for a while.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2581684]I am a long time lurker, and I came in expressly to answer a specific question. I was in Lisbon a week and a half ago and called up the very new Monica Galvao from EP.
Monica strikes me as a lovely student. She came in jeans and a blazer, with red lingerie underneath; a pretty, clean-cut girl in her early 20's. Her body is exactly what you should expect from the pictures: slender; lovely skin; small, firm breasts.
In terms of performance, she is enthusiastic, if inexperienced. So that makes the "fight," as they call it in Portugal, a bit clumsy and awkward. She kissed me at the beginning, but not later. Monica also indicated a willingness for CIM, but that isn't something I actively seek, so I declined.
Basically, she is a sweet girl and kind of willing, but I imagine she would be just clumsy with a boyfriend as with a client, albeit more intimate.[/QUOTE]
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Lisbon. Full report, May 2022 - Mostly a sad place
Hi,
So, as you know I like to write a full report on places I go to. From the beginning till the end giving as much as possible important information to the visitors. You may see my reports on Rio, Brazil or Kiev, Ukraine for example. Since I travel quite a bit due to my work and I also have a bit more money (not a millionaire but still) I like to try as much as I can.
So here is my report for Lisbon, Portugal - 4 day. You get mediocre service from Brazilian girls at the price of European girls.
It is my first visit to Lisbon and I must say I was very much disappointed. Maybe it is because it's my first time I don't really know where to go and how things are working out but still it was disappointing. I really thought it would be nice with some Brazilians without the need to fly across the ocean but the service was very bad mostly.
Some general points about Lisbon:
1. Everything starts late. I like to do things (and sex) in the morning. You have no one to talk with before 11 am or even noon. Massages are open at 11 or 12. I set with some ladies to come early morning to my hotel (9 am) they did not respond until 13:00 saying "I just wake up."
2. Everything starts late also in other places. I went to a swingers club (see below). It says it opens at 23:00. I was there at 23:00, and no one was there. At 2 am when I can not even have my eyes open people started to arrive but still yet almost no fucking. Read later on. I really prefer when things start on time, like in Germany.
3. You can negotiate the price. Girls say 200 euro per hour, some say 150 euro for an hour (I like to book to my hotel). You can negotiate at least some of them to 120 euro per hour and I think it ain't worth even 60 euro. But I am ahead of myself.
4. Staying: I made a mistake and stayed inside Lisbon. I did not like it. Nothing really much and anyway it is quite hard to walk around in Lisbon. I took the Holiday Inn hotel which at least had a pool. My recommendation for you is to take a hotel in Cascais which is much nicer. Some of the girls actually come from Cascais so anyway you have to wait for them and other girls are late anyway. So at least be at a more beautiful place. If you want to bring a girl from the city to Cascais you will have to pay for the Uber and it is around 30 min drive. I still think it is worth it.
5. Many girls are late. Very late. Everything in Lisbon is late. They say it is 20 min, it will take 50 min. Just keep it in mind.
6. There are almost no escort agencies in Lisbon (I think it is illegal) so you have to work directly with the girl. It has its advantages talking with the girl directly but also some disadvantages which you can not receive*a bit more honest information about the girl. This is why in Prague for example I only work with agencies.
7. I expected more from the food in Lisbon, I was also culinarily disappointed.
8. Most of the communication is by WhatsApp.
Here are my reports:
I mainly used the main websites:*[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/[/URL] and*[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/[/URL] and*[URL]https://escortprivada.com/[/URL].
The good things, most of the girls' photos are real. The bad thing is that they are HEAVILY photoshopped and the level of service varies a lot.
First day.
Carolina Belmont - 9: Great success.
I arrived at 9 am to the hotel and called Carolina Belmont -[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL] - the only good thing I had in Lisbon. She was beautiful, very warmly talking and sexy. She is originally from Portugal and I had a great time with her. Even took her to the pool and hung out a bit. So I have been with her for two hours and then I told her she is so nice I want to see her again later tonight to go to a swingers club together. But meanwhile I wanted to try some other girls. I had such a great time with her, I was sure I was at the opening of a great success strike. I was wrong.
Iris Simoes - 4: WARNING.
Next arrival was Iris [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Iris-Simoes-6503.html[/URL] She looks good in the photos with her face. But she was late for 1. 5 hours! I asked her to bring a Bikini. She did not bring it but then I saw why. She has the most ugly stretch marks*in her stomach I could ever see. It was terrible. She was Brazilian. 150 euro.
Jessica Souze - 4: WARNING.
So I was very disappointed with Iris that was late and was not good looking. I tried Jessica who promised*me she likes BDSM. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Jessica-Souza-6251.html[/URL] - again it was terrible. She was 2 hours (yes 2 hours) late. She does not look good, and she knows very very little about BDSM. Big disappointment. She was Brazilian. 150 euro.
So in the evening Carolina came again with her friend and we ate at a nice restaurant with not so good food. Then we had a nice threesome which was ok and then I went with Carolina only to the swingers club. Carolina was awesome but the club was not good enough.
1. It was big. Which is nice. Facilities were not top, but quite good. Everything was VERY dark. Too bad, like literally no light you could see.
2. There were many people but very much little action. I could not wait any longer. I was too tired. Next time it is better to come at 2 am although it says it starts at 23:00. Maybe there is some action around 3 am or 4 m. Stupid.
3. With all the rest, I could live, but the biggest problem was they were smoking everywhere. I hate smoking and I could not avoid it.
Second day:
Erotic Massage success - 8.
After a few disappointments I decided to try some massages. I just started walking after opening Google Maps searching for Erotic Massage. It was quite hard to find. Some of the places were closed and some were actually with the wrong address.
Eventually I arrived to [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/[/URL] and got it with Luna [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/galleries/luna-tantric-therapist-and-sensual-masseuse-in-lisbon[/URL] which was very nice and gave me a nice real body to body massage, 180 euro with happy ending.
Soraia Albuquerque - 5: WARNING.
Later on I tried Soraia. [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL] she is from Portugal. She arrived on time which is a good start. But unfortunately she does not look good enough. It is her real photo but she has her back twisted and she does not stand up straight. She is also a very simple girl. 150 euro lost.
Third day:
I was overwhelmed by the disappointment*of escort girls' low level so I tried more massages.
Went to [URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagistas-femininas-profissionais/[/URL] and decided to go in with Jade [URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/jade-nacionalidade-portuguesa/[/URL] - she gave me mediocre massage quite boring. So I decide to change to*[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/yasmin-nacionalidade-brasileira/[/URL] Yasmin which was nicer. Overall 7. 5 is my experience from the massage. Not very good like the one yesterday but not too bad. 180 euro for Jade 1 hour and 100 euro for Yasmin extra half an hour.
I decided to go to Cascais for a massage. [URL]https://sensualcare.pt/clientes_vip_nuru/[/URL] Nuru Massage. They say they are in Lisbon but currently only the Cascais branch is open. This is a massage place but it is actually a sex place. I got in with Layala. [URL]https://sensualcare.pt/layala[/URL] and I was stupid. I took the expensive body to body massage for 180 euro for 1 hour. I got the worst massage I could ever get. The girl has no idea how to do a body to body massage. Always take the cheapest massage possible first and then extend. Anyhow, the good thing is that she immediately offeredme sex for extra 50 euro. So I took it. I got inside of her and she got her period! Disgusting. 230 euros.
Fourth day:
When I went out from [URL]https://sensualcare.pt/clientes_vip_nuru/[/URL] I saw Rayca which looked very nice so I booked her for tomorrow morning to my hotel at 10 am. She arrived on time. [URL]https://sensualcare.pt/rayca_nuru/[/URL] - but again I made the mistake of taking the full body massage which is expensive. The girl is very cute, good looking, and has a nice butt, but she has no idea how to give a massage. She just put some oil on my back with one hand and that's it. The good thing, she immediately offer me some sex and so I added more money and had actually some good sex with her. I did not bargain with her since I did not have any more time in Lisbon and had to take the flight to Frankfurt. Been to Frankfurt that night to Palace FKK which was terrible too but that's the right forum for it.
Lisbon, I probably will not be back soon.
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]
It is my first visit to Lisbon and I must say I was very much disappointed. Maybe it is because it's my first time I don't really know where to go and how things are working out[/QUOTE]But it could certainly have been better if you had read all the (many) reviews that have been posted here.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]it is quite hard to walk around in Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Unless you suffer from some medical condition, it certainly isn't.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]I expected more from the food in Lisbon, I was also culinarily disappointed.[/QUOTE]I don't know which restaurants you did go to. But you must have been tremendously unlucky!.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2695157]But it could certainly have been better if you had read all the (many) reviews that have been posted here.
Unless you suffer from some medical condition, it certainly isn't.
I don't know which restaurants you did go to. But you must have been tremendously unlucky!.[/QUOTE]Given the percentage of Avivis's overall worldwide posts that express disappointment, could you an ExExpatriate book a session together with Carolina Belmont and present her with a meritorious service award for getting a good review in that post?
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2695157]But it could certainly have been better if you had read all the (many) reviews that have been posted here.
Unless you suffer from some medical condition, it certainly isn't.
I don't know which restaurants you did go to. But you must have been tremendously unlucky!.[/QUOTE]Restaurante A Casa do Bacalhau Is a must try great food and wine super service.
Vincci Liberdade Great little hotel 10 minutes walk to little beach and restaurants also good shopping.
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My favorite EP girls are both back as independents
I recently commented that Anna Balthazar, one of my two top EP girls ever, had returned as an outcall-only independent. She is advertising on Apartadox now as Adriana Rossi.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
I was with her twice in 2020 and 2021. She is a Mom in her late 20's and it shows, but I don't mind that so much because she is very much my type in all senses. Her reviews on the local board were generally favorable, although the only recent one was negative.
Now Maria Gomes is back as an independent, outcall-only girl too. She is now Rita Gomes.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rita-Gomes--5628.html[/URL]
Maria / Rita retired in 2020. She is also a Mom and in her middle 20's, and there are some signs of that. But was all-around magnificent all the same. Her old reviews on the local board were all in the 7 to 10 range.
I have been with neither since their return. But my previous experience with both was excellent.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2695157]But it could certainly have been better if you had read all the (many) reviews that have been posted here.
Unless you suffer from some medical condition, it certainly isn't.
I don't know which restaurants you did go to. But you must have been tremendously unlucky!.[/QUOTE]Hi,
Thanks for the head up.
Let me correct myself according to your remarks:
1. Reading soooo many reviews without order and going back many posts it is tedious until you find something good and recommended. Quite difficult. But you are right.
2. Walking around and inside Lisbon is beautiful. The city itself is beautiful. Cascais and Sintra are amazing. I meant walking around in Lisbon searching for open massages and reaching to girls apartments are quite far a way and takes long time of walk.
3. I was quite unlucky with the restaurants. Somehow, I feel it could be better but all I have tried did not work good unfortunately.
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Thanks to the info here on the board I am about to schedule a threesome with Sara Valente and Alexandra Mendes. Will be my first time with two girls. We will see how I am going to like it. Of course I will report here.
On one of the days I am in Lisbon I will have a free afternoon, so I thought I could combine sightseeing with a body to body massage with oral finish. Any recommendations on that?
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Hope you wouldn't mind giving more details about what you didn't like about Soraia and Jessica. Sorry if you saw them as a result of my posts. But for most guys looking for submissive BDSM ladies, if they take an over the knee hand-spanking of at least moderate intensity, offer BBBJ, and grant digital and preferably penile (if that even a word) vaginal and anal access, most guys looking for that are in heaven. And they are both in their 20's - 30's with Soraia having large breasts according to reviews, and Jessica's pictures indicating as such. So they seemed a perfect fit based on a match between the previous reviews and what I thought you were asking for. Granted both have gotten some subpar reviews to go along with some outstanding reviews (particularly for Soraia, granted Jessica's reviews on the local board have gone downhill). But if you give more details about deficiencies in their service offerings compared to your expectations, especially what they declined to do, it really helps the rest of us.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]Hi,
So, as you know I like to write a full report on places I go to. From the beginning till the end giving as much as possible important information to the visitors. You may see my reports on Rio, Brazil or Kiev, Ukraine for example. Since I travel quite a bit due to my work and I also have a bit more money (not a millionaire but still) I like to try as much as I can.
So here is my report for Lisbon, Portugal - 4 day. You get mediocre service from Brazilian girls at the price of European girls.
It is my first visit to Lisbon and I must say I was very much disappointed. Maybe it is because it's my first time I don't really know where to go and how things are working out but still it was disappointing. I really thought it would be nice with some Brazilians without the need to fly across the ocean but the service was very bad mostly..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RedMan0505;2695244]Restaurante A Casa do Bacalhau Is a must try great food and wine super service.
Vincci Liberdade Great little hotel 10 minutes walk to little beach and restaurants also good shopping.[/QUOTE]Good to know, since I will be staying there.
Do you know of any good incalls in walking area (massage with at least oral ending for instance) that have rates for 30 min?
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2695177]Given the percentage of Avivis's overall worldwide posts that express disappointment[/QUOTE]Some guys have all the (bad) luck.
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[QUOTE=Front604;2695458]Thanks to the info here on the board I am about to schedule a threesome with Sara Valente and Alexandra Mendes. Will be my first time with two girls. We will see how I am going to like it. Of course I will report here.
On one of the days I am in Lisbon I will have a free afternoon, so I thought I could combine sightseeing with a body to body massage with oral finish. Any recommendations on that?[/QUOTE]Update: Due to availability issues it will Soraia Alburquerque and Marta Castro. I think the review for Soraia have been generally favorable and the few for Marta that are available suggest also a good service. Bit of a risk maybe since there are no reviews of them together but no risk no fun.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2695518]Some guys have all the (bad) luck.[/QUOTE]IMHO, we should appreciate Avivis' perspective, which is quite broad (and deep hihi). I learned a lot from his sufficiently detailed report. For example, to keep avoiding paying 150 euros for what could be found for 120 or even 100 (though not lately), unless one invests 1000 euros in practical market research.
I envy the locals who can pace and time their experiences. The visitors simply have to hedge. And for that, M88, Kama Leao, and ExPat are invaluable. Stand up and be recognized.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2694401]A review of this lady, Daphne, from Delirium Spa appeared in the local board yesterday.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1115-dafne-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
He wrote it was a 45 min massage for 100. It was a body to body, HJ massage, the review makes it sound like it was very well done, and he gave it a 9 out of 10 score.[/QUOTE]Is there an option for a fuller service at Delirio Spa, especially vaginal or even anal? Granted, upon personal agreement with the therapist.
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[QUOTE=Atanion;2692980]Link: https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/
Ines Lisbon: Don't need an address or anything?
Atanion: Yes, I need the address.
Ines Lisbon: Yeah.
Ines Lisbon: Rua Jacinto Nunes.
Atanion: Thank you.
Ines Lisbon: Hello..[/QUOTE]"1st" is house number or apt number, or both?
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2695843]IMHO, we should appreciate Avivis' perspective, which is quite broad (and deep hihi). I learned a lot from his sufficiently detailed report. For example, to keep avoiding paying 150 euros for what could be found for 120 or even 100 (though not lately), unless one invests 1000 euros in practical market research.
I envy the locals who can pace and time their experiences. The visitors simply have to hedge. And for that, M88, Kama Leao, and ExPat are invaluable. Stand up and be recognized.[/QUOTE]I am not a local, but thanks. I just try to review the ladies I see, and bring some information over and organize it to some extent.
Obviously with mixed results.
If a person is merely looking to get worked off in any anonymous incall environment from a pretty girl, then obviously EP and the various independent escorts primarily one-hour or longer sessions are not the way to go.
And reviews do take time to read and differentiate what the guy is looking for. But you also need to read through the lines and throw some things out.
But if you spend enough time, they are useful.
Just today, a reviewer on the local board did a nice 9/10 review of Maria Conceicao. That same reviewer gave Soraia Albuquerque an 8/10. His comments are similar to ExExpatriate in comparing and contrasting the two. Maria is a bit more confident and takes charge more. They are the two EP youngsters with the most reviews, although Andriea Martins, Marta Castro, Penelope Garcia, Monica Galvao and Luana Paiva are also, younger EP ladies receiving good reviews.
But that brings up the general problem with reviews. Maria Conceicao got one really bad review from an experienced reviewer on the local board who occasionally blasts the ladies he sees. What do you do about one bad review out of the otherwise set of outstanding reviews that Maria has received? That particular reviewer's favorite EP lady based on his reviews is Julia Nobrega. So does that mean a guy should choose Julia? Probably not if you want a lady in her early 20's with outstanding, firm, upturned breasts like Maria has. A reviewer here on ISG said that Julia is late 30's and he wasn't that into her for that reason. So it is difficult to pick based on just ratings, since a person needs to read a lot of detailed and honest reviews to match what he is looking for.
I had thought Avivis was interested in a BDSM submissive, so I mentioned Soraia Albuquerque in response to one of his posts since Soraia's first review on the local board mentions that she was okay with getting spanked as part of the session. Maybe that is no longer part of her service offerings. If not, it would be better if Avivis tells us more of why he didn't like her. We now know thanks to Avivis's post that if a guy is bothered by stretch marks on a girl's tummy, not to pick Iris Simoes. Not all girls bounce back equally well from childbirth. Personally, I usually find something favorable in any lady I see and focus on that, but negatives are as useful as positives in a review, and they do provide useful data.
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]Hi,
So, as you know I like to write a full report on places I go to. From the beginning till the end giving as much as possible important information to the visitors. You may see my reports on Rio, Brazil or Kiev, Ukraine for example. Since I travel quite a bit due to my work and I also have a bit more money (not a millionaire but still) I like to try as much as I can.
So here is my report for Lisbon, Portugal - 4 day. You get mediocre service from Brazilian girls at the price of European girls.
It is my first visit to Lisbon and I must say I was very much disappointed. Maybe it is because it's my first time I don't really know where to go and how things are working out but still it was disappointing. I really thought it would be nice with some Brazilians without the need to fly across the ocean but the service was very bad mostly.
Some general points about Lisbon:
1. Everything starts late. I like to do things (and sex) in the morning. You have no one to talk with before 11 am or even noon. Massages are open at 11 or 12. I set with some ladies to come early morning to my hotel (9 am) they did not respond until 13:00 saying "I just wake up."
2. Everything starts late also in other places. I went to a swingers club (see below). It says it opens at 23:00. I was there at 23:00, and no one was there. At 2 am when I can not even have my eyes open people started to arrive but still yet almost no fucking. Read later on..[/QUOTE]First I would like to congratulate Carolina Belmont, for having met her high expectations, she really must be above average. You didn't like our escorts, gastronomy, masseuses, swing club and schedules, I really don't know what to say if nothing pleased you. I believe that you should re-evaluate your entire report and see if the problem is not in the questions above, but in you.
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2695845]Is there an option for a fuller service at Delirio Spa, especially vaginal or even anal? Granted, upon personal agreement with the therapist.[/QUOTE]I have seen no such report at present. Some spas are HJ only by house policy. 🤷.
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Btw
Julia Nobrega is in her early 30's. When I saw her 3 1/2 years ago, I pegged her at under 30, like 26 to 29. So she is not 35, let alone older.
A sometimes problem with reviews is the reviewer. Some people have different tastes, which is innocent enough. But others are just jerks and damn near impossible to make happy, whoever they go to. People don't post disclaimers that they really have a thing for redheads or have a lousy attitude or whatever that often.
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2695882]"1st" is house number or apt number, or both?[/QUOTE]1st means first floor. But, as a matter of fact, Inês has already moved from that apartment. She's now in Rua Pinheiro Chagas.
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So here is my Report. It was going to be Soraia and Marta but Marta „bailed". So Soraia had sent me a list of other girls that could join. I told her to surprise me and she brought Carlota d'Almeida. She has short hair now and some tats but the rest is like the pictures. So still the skinny „rock-Hard" frame. Small tits and waist and some abs. I think the short hair looked good on her and I did not mind the Tattoos.
Soraia has indeed a face that is maybe just average and in different league that her body. I did not find her breast that big but they were fitting to her body.
So they arrived at the hotel and after exchanging a few words took a shower and came out of it naked (seems to be the standard EP drill? Carlota was starting to kiss and the full Programm with tongue. Meanwhile Soraia started to blow me. I told Carlota that I wanted to eat her and she knelt over my face and I could eat that pussy and grip that tiny waist. After while of eating pussy and ass they switched und I ate Soraia and Carlota did the blowjob. I enjoyed her technique much more and Soraia had the tendency to press her pussy and ass against my face, which I very much enjoyed. So all in all. Good decision the switch.
Then Carlota put on the condom and started to ride me, while I was eating Soraia. And boy is she tight! At one moment I started to think I was supposed to do Anal with Soraia. Did they change plans?" Carlota really has a tiny and rock-hard body as mentioned and I started to grab her tiny waist and shortly before they could switch again. I came. I do not come often in Cowgirl and definitely not so easy, when I do. But Carlota was just too good and tight.
After that we chatted a bit but both their English is not that good.
When we tried the second round I had to admit that I was too tired from two long work days here in Lisbon. Despite Carlotas best efforts, my little friend did not want to rise. So they gave me a massage afterwards and we showered together. All in all they stayed a bit more than the agreed hour.
In total it was a very enjoyable experience. That I was tired for a second round is not their fault. That Soraia brought Carlota was a pleasant surprise. I am a total sucker for he bodytype.
Downside was that both their English was bad so good and that I still do not know if a threesome is really something for me.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2696006]Julia Nobrega is in her early 30's. When I saw her 3 1/2 years ago, I pegged her at under 30, like 26 to 29. So she is not 35, let alone older.
A sometimes problem with reviews is the reviewer. Some people have different tastes, which is innocent enough. But others are just jerks and damn near impossible to make happy, whoever they go to. People don't post disclaimers that they really have a thing for redheads or have a lousy attitude or whatever that often.[/QUOTE]Yes, sorry. Re-read her review here on ISG and he put her mid-30's, but her was clearly looking for younger ladies as he enjoyed his duo with Soraia Albuquerque and Andreia Martins more than the duo involving Julia Nobrega. Worth noting that he was very complimentary of Andreia's oral sex offerings and said that Soraia was amateurish but loveable and that he very attracted to Soraia, even though Andreia gave the better BBBJ and took the lead in the threesome.
But that is all part of the basic conflict with reviews. The local board reviews of Julia Nobrega put her now in her very early 30's, and they are 8's and 9's out of 10, and are very complimentary of her looks, attitude and services. As Kama and others often point out, women actually hit their sexual prime in terms of enjoying sex (both giving and receiving) in their 30's and 40's. My current favorite in the USA Is in her late 30's and I have seen her for years and she just keeps getting better. But I enjoy the youngsters too, with the knowledge that you can't expect them to take the lead and control the session. I think sometimes guys expect too much. How can an 18-21 year old be as confident sexually as a 30-45 year old?
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[QUOTE=Front604;2695652]Update: Due to availability issues it will Soraia Alburquerque and Marta Castro. I think the review for Soraia have been generally favorable and the few for Marta that are available suggest also a good service. Bit of a risk maybe since there are no reviews of them together but no risk no fun.[/QUOTE]You will be pleased to know that Marta Castro received a 9 out of 10 review today from an experienced reviewer on the local board who said she is around 26 years old and did BBBJTC.
Here is the translated version of the review:
"Dear confreres, respectful greetings from this humble servant of yours.
TD held last week.
He had been keeping an eye on Marta for some time now and with some schedule availability, this time it happened.
Cordial and clear messages via WhatsApp and an appointment with the hotel a few hours later.
After some delay in arrival, I can't say that the first impact was positive, mostly due to an event about which I won't be able to elaborate, but for the more curious I can clarify by PM. :
Despite the delay, the not-so-good first impact and some confusion, there we understood each other and got down to business.
Marta is cute, she's in shape without having that gym body, she's friendly and talkative.
It could be that day-to-day friend, it doesn't instantly turn your head when you come across her on the street but after more attention, we realize that something is there. =the .
She puts us at ease right away and talks a lot about everything.
I liked it and I knew how to deal with it well, in fact, due to her strong personality and her enormous will, she will become a recurring company.
I believe that for some confreres it can be a little uncomfortable or inhibiting to be too comfortable and the fact of talking, talking, talking, a lot but for me and in that specific context, I was very pleased with his attitude.
After we talked about all the possibilities on the table (or bed, in this case) and I had put myself completely at ease with whatever I wanted, we started the fight.
About the performance, I don't have much to say, it was bordering on perfection!
Five star oral, vaginal and anal, great, engagement, kisses, everything you could hope for and everything you didn't even expect.
I can say that during all our working time, I can't point out anything too negative.
It was intense, it was good!
I don't have much else to say. That day, in that context, Marta was a perfect wave to turn the calm sea she had, and it was good!
I considered the note 10 but with values 8203;for extras that should be included in the base value and due to the troubled start, I will stick with a consistent 9.
To be reviewed soon, for sure.
Good fights, my dear confreres!
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Marta-Castro-6489.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2695071]Hi,
So, as you know I like to write a full report on places I go to. From the beginning till the end giving as much as possible important information to the visitors. You may see my reports on Rio, Brazil or Kiev, Ukraine for example. Since I travel quite a bit due to my work and I also have a bit more money (not a millionaire but still) I like to try as much as I can.
So here is my report for Lisbon, Portugal - 4 day. You get mediocre service from Brazilian girls at the price of European girls.
It is my first visit to Lisbon and I must say I was very much disappointed. Maybe it is because it's my first time I don't really know where to go and how things are working out but still it was disappointing. I really thought it would be nice with some Brazilians without the need to fly across the ocean but the service was very bad mostly..[/QUOTE]I came to the forum today to post a report from a escorts and saw Avivis' report and decided to make a comment.
Well, I already went out with Carolina Belmont and she really is spectacular her beauty, her wonderful body, involvement, sympathy and among other things I loved finishing in her mouth when she was kneeling in front of me. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]*.
Iris Simões, I've never been with her, but I thought it was very rude of you to talk about her stretch marks and I believe she doesn't boil down to just that. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Iris-Simoes-6503.html[/URL].
Jessica Souza, I've also been with her and I liked it a lot, super polite and friendly and she does anal sex without equal, she can take it a lot and for a long time, I must say that she really likes anal and eating her 4-inch ass while she moans asking for more, it's a spectacular sight. She has a "tummy", but nothing that compromises the service in general. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Jessica-Souza-6251.html[/URL].
Soraia Albuquerque, I've also been with Soraia, very sweet and friendly, her breasts are really her strong point, I breastfed them a lot, we also had a lot of involvement and it was nice. She actually dresses a little simply, but nothing that compromises the service in general. [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Soraia-Albuquerque--5814.html[/URL].
I don't really like going to masseuses, but I believe they also have their strengths.
I believe bad luck was on you, even a menstruating girl you got.
Anyway, without further ado, good luck with the next cities.
P.S. : if there are any grammar mistakes I apologize, because I used the translator.
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Sex masseur
I would like to talk about Kira, she was recommended by a friend, she works in a massage parlor and gives massages there, there can't be sex inside the house, so usually the girls arrange later in a motel / hotel or home.
As I said before, I'm not used to going to a massage parlor, but a friend recommended it and gave me its link on classifiedX.
When I saw the photos I suspected that they were fake photos, because they are very "decorated", on the beach and such and I also found it very expensive, she charged me 300 1 h without anal and oral with condom, as indicated and the value leads to her level, I decided to take a chance.
So I negotiated and stayed 200 for 1 h at the already known motel in Loures (I won't say the name).
Grade 8 - oral with and in the end it stayed a little on the phone.
Name: Kira.
Photos: real, came from her Instagram.
Age: 30's ou 32.
Face: pretty.
Body: Fit and full curves.
Breasts: beautiful and silicone, but super natural, a little droopy.
Waist: Shaped.
Butt: huge and hot, too bad it doesn't do anal.
Legs: turned.
Anal: no.
Oral: with condom.
Kiss: depends on hygiene Very friendly and polite.
Price: 100/200** 30 min* 1 h* + uber (final value after negotiation).
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/341149-sua-massagista-carinhosa-em-li[/URL]
When she arrived I thought she was beautiful right away, just like the photos, a typically Brazilian brunette, full of curves and with a very beautiful smile.
At first she was a little embarrassed, because she told me that she had been in the business for a short time, then she started letting go and soon we were kissing and having a very nice involvement, then she took off her clothes and came to suck me with, orally very well done, deep throat and ruffles, it just wasn't better for the condom, but safety is safety, she came on top clicking, then I stayed with her MMPP, finally the position I love the most, I took her on 4 and put everything on with force, she moaned very tasty and I put more, so come to me, then she also stayed a little on the phone.
She gave me the information that can be finished 2 or 3 times, depending on the client, but as I already had a very important meeting, I preferred to just talk for a while and had to leave.
I will definitely come back.
P.S. Even though he was a masseuse, I didn't want to, I went straight to the fight.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2696025]1st means first floor. But, as a matter of fact, Ins has already moved from that apartment. She's now in Rua Pinheiro Chagas.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Does that place have a name? Web link?
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Has anybody tasted this angel yet?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/madalena-duque/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Oneminuteboy;2696428]Has anybody tasted this angel yet?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/madalena-duque/[/URL][/QUOTE]There is an open request for a review of her on the local board, but I am finding nothing.
I notice that in Madalena Duque's Apartadox video, they make a significant effort to not show her stomach, which is a bad sign.
If you want curvy and positively reviewed from EP, don't forget to take a hard look at Penelope Garcia.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Penelope-Garcia-6340.html[/URL]
Granted she only has one review on the local board, but it is from a guy who has seen Carolina Belmont and mist of the EP ladies mentioned in this thread, and Penelope Garcia is the only lady he gave a perfect 10 out of 10. She is the rare Venezuelan in Portugal, and that country generates the best of the best in terms of light-skinned curvy women with pretty faces.
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2696237]Thanks. Does that place have a name? Web link?[/QUOTE][URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
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First time poster so forgive me if there is any guidelines I fall afoul of. I've been living in Lisbon for a little while and been meaning to start to share my experiences here. I tend to get most info from the local board but most people there write far more eloquently than my Portuguese allows me to so I decided to write here instead.
In no particular order, I'll start with Isis ([URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=600[/URL]) who I saw a couple of times last autumn. Both were incalls near Entrecampos station to an apartment that from the outside looks tired but inside was clean and modern. Communication via WhatsApp was easy, she replied very quickly each time, sometimes with text and sometimes with voice. I do speak Portuguese so not sure what her English is like but generally my impression is that most of the Brazilian girls in Lisbon don't have much English so google translate may be important. Rates were 80/150 for 30 m /1 HR. I was drawn by her photos which are accurate, although one negative is that she has had work done on her breasts and they didn't do a great job IMO. She had an enthusiastic attitude with lots of kissing and BBBJTC which she really seems into. I ended up going back a few weeks later because, having told her I was single, she sent a quite provocative video a few weeks later to my WhatsApp which had the intended effect on me and brought me back, but I was in fact far too tired and didn't really make the most of it. I don't tend to repeat too much but I would see her again in a pinch. 7/10.
Next, Camila Prado who I saw in February, although her advert on apartadox doesn't seem to be active at the time of writing so apologies for the lack of a link. Again, arranged through WhatsApp to an apartment on a quiet street in Cascais. She mentioned that she was about to leave to Porto in March. I paid 130 for an hour. She had a great body, but she answered the door in a robe and slippers as if she'd just woken up (this was early afternoon) which killed the mood a bit for me. After I got on the bed she started with an average massage which quite quickly turned into an average CBJ. She rode me after and I came fairly quickly. The 1 HR gave the right for 2 opportunities but after the first one I wasn't really in the mood for more. We cuddled and chatted for a bit and then off I went. I didn't come away feeling cheated or anything but I wouldn't repeat. 5/10.
Last month I paid a visit to another Brazilian, Patricia Navarro ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]). She was working out of the same building as Isis near Entrecampos, albeit in a much smaller apartment. She charged 70/120 for 30 m /1 HR. She communicated very clearly on WhatsApp. Patricia is my favourite escort so far. These things are always personal taste but I found her stunningly beautiful. After taking a shower I came out of the bathroom to find her on the bed on all fours and I honestly just writing this back is tempting me to message her again. DFK, BBBJ, 69, multiple positions and then a massage (which was very firm, maybe too firm for my own taste but I appreciate the effort). I had only booked 30 minutes with her because I was in a hurry but would do an hour without hesitation next time. 9/10.
When I have time I'll add some more.
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Eva Santos
Has anyone seen her yet? Pictures look super hot.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-santos/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Shaidester;2696881]Has anyone seen her yet? Pictures look super hot.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-santos/[/URL][/QUOTE]Eva Santos got a very bad 1 out of 10 review on the local board. That is her only review.
At first I thought it was a hatchet job, but the reviewer has since done favorable reviews, including of an EP lady (Beatriz Martins, usually of the Algarves, but who sometimes tours Lisbon).
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/beatriz-martins/[/URL]
Here are the EP ladies on the current roster who have received some level of favorable reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/luana-paiva/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/silvia-nunes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bianca-pereira/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/julia-nobrega/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/monica-galvao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/alexandra-mendes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/leonor-oliveira/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carolina-dalmeida/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/catarina-rodriguez/[/URL]
Catarina's reviews are very limited in detail, but good enough to put her on the list of favorably reviewed ladies. There was no particular order to the list except for trying to list the younger ones first, since the question was about Eva Santos, who is relatively younger. Sorry if I forgot any current EP Lisbon ladies with good reviews.
Unfortunately, Mia hasn't gotten any reviews yet despite her very hot pictures and impressive Apartadox ad.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mia-tavares/[/URL]
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Report
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2695315]I recently commented that Anna Balthazar, one of my two top EP girls ever, had returned as an outcall-only independent. She is advertising on Apartadox now as Adriana Rossi.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
I was with her twice in 2020 and 2021. She is a Mom in her late 20's and it shows, but I don't mind that so much because she is very much my type in all senses. Her reviews on the local board were generally favorable, although the only recent one was negative.
Now Maria Gomes is back as an independent, outcall-only girl too. She is now Rita Gomes.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rita-Gomes--5628.html[/URL]
Maria / Rita retired in 2020. She is also a Mom and in her middle 20's, and there are some signs of that. But was all-around magnificent all the same. Her old reviews on the local board were all in the 7 to 10 range.
I have been with neither since their return. But my previous experience with both was excellent.[/QUOTE]Yes Rita or Maria Gomes, of course is not the real name she is a mom and she is 29. Great and kind escort, but especially person, she doing that not because she likes sex or whatever, but because she really needs. I really hope she will be able to go out of that poor and shitty job ASAP, she deserve it.
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Bianca
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bianca-pereira/[/URL]
I saw Bianca in the first week of March. She's Ukrainian and speaks very clear English. Fake boobs but give that plastic surgeon a medal bc wow. Pix are accurate but tatts have been photoshopped out. (Smart girl.) Booked 2 hours so we had a lot of time to hang and chat. She's a very sweet girl but a bit mechanical. (Makes those weird porno moans.) She admitted that if she had a boyfriend the last thing she'the want is to come home and have sex. Which kinda makes sense. I'the see her again.
Looks 9/10.
Attitude 8/10.
Performance 7/10.
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Thanks! Are the reviews of Monica Galvao very old? Wasn't able to find them.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2697023]Eva Santos got a very bad 1 out of 10 review on the local board. That is her only review.
At first I thought it was a hatchet job, but the reviewer has since done favorable reviews, including of an EP lady (Beatriz Martins, usually of the Algarves, but who sometimes tours Lisbon).
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/beatriz-martins/[/URL]
Here are the EP ladies on the current roster who have received some level of favorable reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks! Are the reviews of Monica Galvao very old? Wasn't able to find them.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2696662][URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's Ines's link, obviously, not the SPA's. Anyway, thanks.
BTW, why do they spell SPA in capital letters so often? Just out of curiosity.
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Bump for Shaidester.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2581684]I am a long time lurker, and I came in expressly to answer a specific question. I was in Lisbon a week and a half ago and called up the very new Monica Galvao from EP.
Monica strikes me as a lovely student. She came in jeans and a blazer, with red lingerie underneath; a pretty, clean-cut girl in her early 20's. Her body is exactly what you should expect from the pictures: slender; lovely skin; small, firm breasts.
In terms of performance, she is enthusiastic, if inexperienced. So that makes the "fight," as they call it in Portugal, a bit clumsy and awkward. She kissed me at the beginning, but not later. Monica also indicated a willingness for CIM, but that isn't something I actively seek, so I declined.
Basically, she is a sweet girl and kind of willing, but I imagine she would be just clumsy with a boyfriend as with a client, albeit more intimate.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Shaidester;2697249]Thanks! Are the reviews of Monica Galvao very old? Wasn't able to find them.[/QUOTE]Bumped Monica's review for you. Here are the BBBJ independents with great reviews that are mentioned in the last 10 pages, or who I remember from past posts, in case any are of interest. I know I am not mentioning them all. The first one, Ines, is mentioned favorably now on all three big review boards. And Carolina Belmont is becoming something of a legend. Carolina, Rita and Adriana are all former EP ladies, so they know the outcall procedure.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rita-Gomes--5628.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428.html[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/313305-gaby-rainha-do-anal[/URL]#group=galeria_313305&photo=313305.
Gaby, also known as Babi Andrade, is an iffy addition to the list since she no-showed, no-called a forum member. I included her as a result of her anal sex offerings, but other than price she doesn't seem to offer anything that Alexandra Mendes of EP (the EP lady most often consistently up for anal sex).
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2697339]That's Ines's link, obviously, not the SPA's. Anyway, thanks.[/QUOTE]But she is in no Spa. That's an appartment in Rua Pinheiro Chagas.
[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2697339]BTW, why do they spell SPA in capital letters so often? Just out of curiosity.[/QUOTE]Beats me.
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Hello everyone,
Does anyone knows whether there are reports of the following girls?
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1205[/URL]
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Prostate massage?
Hello people,
I will be in Lisbon in a few weeks and I am looking for a place where they do a good prostate massage. Where the prostate massage is the main element of the massage, done "professionally" by a woman who knows how to do it. Not just a finger "back there" while getting a HJ, if you see what I mean. A sexy / nude / allowed to touch masseuse is a plus but I'm not interested in BJ or FS, for instance. Do you know where to go for this?
Also, I read some pages of the forum + other sources, I didn't find any info about Chinese massage parlors. The kind of place where for 50/80€ you can get a decent massage and a quick HJ. Do these places exist in Lisbon?
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=Merrona;2698025]Hello everyone,
Does anyone knows whether there are reports of the following girls?
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1205[/URL][/QUOTE]I see compliments regarding the ad for Carolina Morais, but no reviews. One guy who inquired seemed to indicate that she responded affirmatively regarding BBBJ.
The reviews for Clara Senna on the local board are quite good. This guy put her at 28 years old and gives tremendous detail as to her services in the translated version of his review:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
"General Information.
Name: Clara Senna.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: 28.
Location: Near Picoas.
Price: €80 30 min. €120 1 h.
Hours: I don't know.
Vaginal Services.
With condom (obviously), very tight.
Anal: I don't know.
Oral: No condom.
Kiss: Yes.
Minete: Yes.
Massage: I don't know.
CIM: I think so.
CIF: I think so.
GFE: Yes.
Physical Appearance.
Height: 1.74 m.
Hair: Black, long and straight.
White skin.
Blue eyes.
Weight: 60 kg. Body. Slim and elegant.
Dude: 9.5/10.
Gorgeous, by far her best attribute.
Breasts: 7/10.
Very small, but natural and receptive.
Ass: 9/10.
It's rare to see a woman so thin, but with such a nice ass.
Legs: 9/10.
Lean, slender and long.
Beautiful feet.
Tattoos: Various.
Similarity to Photos: 8/10.
These are photos from the portal so you know that there are always touches. From now on I seem to have the whitest skin, almost snow white style. They also removed his tattoos. He has several on his arms and legs and one on his back. Otherwise, that's what you see, a thin body but with a nice ass.
Attitude, Hygiene and Presentation.
Attitude: 9/10.
Attitude is the most important thing for me and Clara was very nice and always tried to put me at ease. She is shy (she hasn't been in this life for a long time), which doesn't bother me, but she tries to create atmosphere and involvement.
Service: 9/10.
Makes GFE and kisses. About CIM and CIF, when she was in oral and I was about to burst, I asked her if she did it, to which she said yes. I ended up putting up with it and bursting only in the vagina so I didn't confirm it, but things were going well for that.
Massage and anal, it was not a topic.
Presentation: 10/10.
She had make-up on, smelled good, had her hair combed and arranged, and she presented herself in lingerie that I really liked and that suited her very well.
Punctuality: 10/10.
Impeccable. I arrived and it opened without me having to wait.
Time Control: 6/10.
Some. He has a secretary who calls him when time is running out. But during the meeting things are done calmly and without being rushed.
Hygiene: 10/10.
Perfect.
Building Space.
Small and in a hidden place. At night it must be a bit stressful.
Apartment: Apartment shared with someone else, I heard and saw a friend, but I didn't understand if she was a gp.
Bedroom: Small with a big bed. Mirrors placed on the walls are too high to see anything properly. In the doggy with me standing and her on all fours on the edge of the bed, I could only see my upper torso.
Shower and bathroom outside the room.
Kissing Performance: 9/10.
Kisses well and with a lot of tongue.
Vaginal: 9/10.
Very tight. Without theater and wanting to please.
Oral: 7/10.
No condom, a little shy at first, but it started to loosen up. However, they made me much better.
Encounter I.
Had this gp under my eye for some time now. After taking a few baths from other GPS, I saw Clara's ad and as I had never been with a tall and thin woman, I thought to myself "It's neither too late nor too early". I sent a whatsapp message to Clara who promptly replied. I can also confirm that the person responding to messages is a secretary.
Appointment made and there I headed to the place. I was already there with some expectations, but when Clara opens the door, my jaw drops. She is beautiful and she was wearing lingerie that really makes my fetish. I couldn't believe what I was seeing.
I paid and went to showers and when I came back she was putting a sheet over the bed so we could move on to hostilities. And so it was. It should be noted that Clara has only been in this life for two months and I think that's why she still has some shyness, which she loses throughout the meeting, but there is some inexperience in socializing.
Standing up, I grabbed it and started exploring. Gorgeous face, with bright blue eyes, tall, with a thin body and small tits, but that ass is a phenomenon. I kissed her while I was grabbing that ass and so we had several minutes of dating. After reviewing the rest of the body, I laid her down and started mine.
No fake moans, the way I like it, with her hands encouraging my head to suck on her well and me clinging to those long legs. When she was already wet it was her turn to reciprocate.
It started off as a nice oral one, but as I had gone there with the tomatoes really bursting, to be honest it could have been a cheese grater style oral that I also liked. But it was not. Calm at first and harder as time went by. I ask her to try to get it all in there, and she, always trying to please, tried hard to get it. She almost had it, but she couldn't, but as I was enjoying the effort and didn't know how much longer I would last, I ask her if she did CIM or CIF. She said yes (I didn't know if it was both or just one of them), she continued to suck, but I ended up wanting to go vaginal and therefore I didn't confirm if it actually does or if in the end I would end up cutting myself.
At my request, he gets on all fours on the edge of the bed and it's a very good sight indeed. Those long legs, with that ass looking at me and a slender hip gives a beautiful effect. We started a little dog and she grabbed the sheet right away, but without any false whining or moaning. After a while, as I was already ready, I gave her a very strong hammer blow that the girl not only held on to, but was already biting the sheet. How horny! I couldn't take it and I burst all inside her.
Cleaning, we talked a little and here the cell phone rings. It's the secretary telling you it's time. I don't hurry, I go to the bathroom, I get dressed, she leads me to the door, kisses and goodbye.
Repeat: Perhaps. There is some inexperience in conviviality and for these values 8203;there is much better. If she even lowered the half-hour to 70, she'd probably come back, by 80 almost certainly not, but we'll see.
Recommend: To everyone who wants to look like a beautiful girl, tall and thin, with a model-like body. Who has sympathy but some shyness.
Best Moment: Hammered her on all fours biting the sheet.
Final Grade: 7.
Clara is beautiful, with a body type that I really appreciate. She has a good attitude, commitment and wants to please. She could easily be an 8, however the values 8203;she practices and some inexperience she demonstrates take her away from that level, so I'm staying at 7. ".
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There so much nuru, body to body massage available in Lisbon that I am unaware of anything "low end," which is how I think of the AMP circuit. A good massage of this type is 100 or 120 these days. I addressed the issue of HJ only providers in a couple of posts not long ago, so just scroll back for those. Many massagistas will do prostate, but I habe never seen it commented upon and cannot speak to it myself.
[QUOTE=LetsGoo;2698033]Hello people,
I will be in Lisbon in a few weeks and I am looking for a place where they do a good prostate massage. Where the prostate massage is the main element of the massage, done "professionally" by a woman who knows how to do it. Not just a finger "back there" while getting a HJ, if you see what I mean. A sexy / nude / allowed to touch masseuse is a plus but I'm not interested in BJ or FS, for instance. Do you know where to go for this?
Also, I read some pages of the forum + other sources, I didn't find any info about Chinese massage parlors. The kind of place where for 50/80 you can get a decent massage and a quick HJ. Do these places exist in Lisbon?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2698087]I see compliments regarding the ad for Carolina Morais, but no reviews. One guy who inquired seemed to indicate that she responded affirmatively regarding BBBJ.
The reviews for Clara Senna on the local board are quite good. This guy put her at 28 years old and gives tremendous detail as to her services in the translated version of his review:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
Clara is beautiful, with a body type that I really appreciate. She has a good attitude, commitment and wants to please. She could easily be an 8, however the values 8203;she practices and some inexperience she demonstrates take her away from that level, so I'm staying at 7..[/QUOTE]Thank you so much! It looks like both of them receive positive reviews, especially Clara is definitely someone I'm looking for.
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Cléo & Brenda
Cléo I've mentioned before. Very good Brazilian courtesan, BBBJ, DATY, beautiful and petite. Now she seems to have found a sex friend that, as far as the photos show, could be a great playmate for fans of threesome adventures.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Brenda-e-Cleo-6654.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2698121]There so much nuru, body to body massage available in Lisbon that I am unaware of anything "low end," which is how I think of the AMP circuit. A good massage of this type is 100 or 120 these days. I addressed the issue of HJ only providers in a couple of posts not long ago, so just scroll back for those. Many massagistas will do prostate, but I habe never seen it commented upon and cannot speak to it myself.[/QUOTE]Thank you ExExpatriate.
I think I will go to Royal Therapy Spa (they state that they do prostate massage) as I think that it is the closest to what I seek. And I will see if it fulfils my expectations.
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Prepping for trip to Lisbon
There seems to be a fair amount of sites listing girls.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]
Rates but No reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/escort-classifieds-Lisbon-Portugal[/URL]
No rates or reviews.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escorts/lisbon[/URL]
Rates and reviews.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/[/URL]
No rates or reviews.
Only Eurogirls has reviews that I can see. I do like that the EP girls all come to my hotel. I've never done that but it sounds very convenient and safe. I can't see myself going to anyone without a review.
So far these are the ones I would like to see:
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mia-tavares/364369/?list=ng286k[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/bianca-pereira/125821/?list=odhk7r[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/madalena-fonseca/120039/?list=uza1y[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/carlota-d-almeida/47900/?list=h5hyu[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
I couldn't find one hotel for the whole time so I have to switch. I will be in.
Room007 Select Liberdade.
Iberostar Selection Lisbon.
Hotel Avenida Palace.
I know I've read that all the hotels are girl friendly, but I still need to ask. Also does anyone know if you need a key for the elevator with these hotels?
I'm planning on using the bus to get around.
Any comments and / or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I will be in Lisbon for 9 days.
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I haven't been there in seven years. Back then it was brand new and had excellent facilities. Hopefully it is well-maintained.
I took a quick look at the local board -- Indya and EMA got good marks in recent reviews.
[QUOTE=LetsGoo;2698822]Thank you ExExpatriate.
I think I will go to Royal Therapy Spa (they state that they do prostate massage) as I think that it is the closest to what I seek. And I will see if it fulfils my expectations.[/QUOTE]
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See Builder
IMO, the sites that both advertise and provide reviews shouldn't be trusted on the latter. Many or most are fake. Also, such sites are not 100% photo verified.
The way many of us proceed is to use this site, the local board and other review boards to find information about the ladies who interest us. And sometimes we take chances. Feel free to review the last several pages here: you will find a lot of info to start with.
So, photo-verified sites.
Escort Privada is an agency. All the girls are outcall-only and charge 150/ h.
Apartadox, Momentos de Prazer and Portalprivado are photo-verified and focus on traditional escorts. All the Escort Privada girls are also on Apartadox.
Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified sites focused on erotic massagistas.
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Thank you for letting us know that Mia Tavares received a good review on the Eurogirls site.
I have long thought her pictures and video were among the best on the EP site. Here is the favorable comment about Mia Tavares:
"My wife and I had a great time with Mia. She is very pretty and she is a wonderful kisser. Big hugs and thank you."
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mia-tavares/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mia-Tavares-5988.html[/URL]
Based on reviews here on USG and on the local review board, your other selections are excellent.
Except that Madelena Fonseca is no longer active as an escort.
She was a friendly, seductive brunette with nice breasts and a pretty face. The negative in her reviews was that some guys felt she had too much of a tummy.
Some similar favorably-reviewed alternatives in the busty brunette, pretty face, category you might consider are:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
[QUOTE=CBuilder;2699114]There seems to be a fair amount of sites listing girls.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]
Rates but No reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/escort-classifieds-Lisbon-Portugal[/URL]
No rates or reviews.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escorts/lisbon[/URL]
Rates and reviews.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/[/URL]
No rates or reviews..[/QUOTE]
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I agree. But for the faults it has (such as almost never updating the ages and pics), Escort Privada doesn't submit fake reviews on Eurogirls or Massage Republic, like many ladies do.
So I think the favorable comment on Mia Tavares on the Eurogirls site is likely legitimate.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2699223]IMO, the sites that both advertise and provide reviews shouldn't be trusted on the latter. Many or most are fake. Also, such sites are not 100% photo verified.
The way many of us proceed is to use this site, the local board and other review boards to find information about the ladies who interest us. And sometimes we take chances. Feel free to review the last several pages here: you will find a lot of info to start with.
So, photo-verified sites.
Escort Privada is an agency. All the girls are outcall-only and charge 150/ h.
Apartadox, Momentos de Prazer and Portalprivado are photo-verified and focus on traditional escorts. All the Escort Privada girls are also on Apartadox.
Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified sites focused on erotic massagistas.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2699223]IMO, the sites that both advertise and provide reviews shouldn't be trusted on the latter. Many or most are fake. Also, such sites are not 100% photo verified.[/QUOTE]That makes sense because Monica Melo has a good review on eurogirlsescort. But I found a bad review here.
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Fake Reviews
[QUOTE=CBuilder;2699278]That makes sense because Monica Melo has a good review on eurogirlsescort. But I found a bad review here.[/QUOTE]A sure sign that a site is running fake reviews is when they are all of the exact same length. Also, you can usually tell they're fake if they are written in the same style, although this is hard for a non-native speaker to spot. Really I think that this board (for Lisbon) is probably the best resource. I'm planning a one month trip mid-June and I've already got a list of 10 must-see girls, thanks to this board. I'll probably give reports on all of them, just to "give back." I really appreciate this board and wish I'd discovered it prior to my trip to Lisbon earlier this year.
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[QUOTE=CBuilder;2699278]That makes sense because Monica Melo has a good review on eurogirlsescort. But I found a bad review here.[/QUOTE]OMG, Monica is awful. Her reviews on the local board also show a slide. Once upon a time, she was good. But she's been a bottom feeder for quite a while now.
This is where I must disagree with Mongerer. Maybe EP doesn't bother with fake reviews. I don't think they do. But some of their girls absolutely do.
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[QUOTE=CBuilder;2699278]That makes sense because Monica Melo has a good review on eurogirlsescort. But I found a bad review here.[/QUOTE]In post 4134 I list the EP ladies who have a preponderance of good reviews over bad.
It is not in any particular order, other than listing the relatively younger ladies first, since the guy I put the list together for seemed to want younger ladies.
However, the first one on the list Carlota d'Almeida is not technically young, she just still looks young. She has always been EP's highest ranked lady, but she is not consistently available since she tours Dubai as a freelancer sometimes. She has years of excellent reviews. I think that post 4134 is a good resource, but don't necessarily go in the order listed.
There is positive correlation between the good and bad reviews on Eurogirlescort and this site and the the local Portugal review forum.
Monica Melo is the exception, but please read her review on Eurogirlescort more closely.
"Sometimes the time just flies and these two hours passed incredibly fast. Monica was very responsive and clear over the WhatsApp and the arrangements went very smoothly, with her doing the extra effort to meet my requests that I expressed before the meeting. From the moment she entered my hotel room it felt as meeting up with an exlover. Lots of ease, laughter, a sense of trust and companionship, and just joy of being together. She looks like on the photos, her skin smells beautifully and she was definitely very attentive, giving the impression that she really loves her work and enjoys seeking ways for both to enjoy time together. It all felt like really meeting a whole woman. Her English is absolutely good enough to have decent conversations something important to me and not so often the case in Portugal."
"Meeting up with an exlover. " What the serious fuck. No guy has ever used that term favorably. No John has ever used that term in a review. Her skin smells beautifully? The only part of a lady most guys ever smell is the area slightly north of her clitoris and labia.
Yes, it is a fake review. Fortunately, you have ExExpatriate to warn you off from her.
For some reason EP has a big heart when it comes to her. The local review board indicates that she once worked as an independent and did car dates.
Most of the EP ladies are college students and / or young single moms with good jobs who do some escorting on the side.
Personally, I think the favorable review of Mia Tavares on Eurogirlescort seems real. It is short and appreciative and written the way a John writes. If you see her, please let us know how she is.
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Fake Reviews
It's not like all reviews on that eurogirls site or massage republic are fake, but some obviously are. Maybe most are.
Just think about this from the lady's perspective. On an advertising site, their review sits right there with their ad. It is part of the ad. Forums are more reliable, but things can get lost on them. They are a bigger investment of time, both to keep your notices fresh and to gain credibility. Moreover, bad workers actually need fake reviews on the regular, to counter the real, negative reviews that will inevitably appear from the angry, misled customers.
A note about how EP advertises, based upon what their girls tell me. The agency has a website and automatically posts to certain other advertising sites, like Apartadox. Past that, the girl in question promotes themselves. So, whenever you see an EP girl featured somewhere, that is her paying for that. New photoshoot? Her doing too. If you see an obviously fake review for, say, Monica Melo or Vera Guerra, it was them. Whatever EP does, it does across the board.
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There is just a lot of work in integrating the Eurogirlescort and Massage Republic reviews into the overall process. There was just a review in the Dubai forum of a lady who interests me, and her positive review here on ISG correlates nicely with the three reviews on M. Are. But with Massage Republic, not only are there many fake reviews, but you need to Google the phone number to be sure that number doesn't appear for multiple women in multiple cities.
In general, EP and its ladies actually hate the review system, Monica Melo the ex-lover notwithstanding. So I just don't see them doing fake reviews, even at the individual lady level. Sara Valente got an interesting favorable review on Eurogirlescort that says a repeat customer loves her and how she is willing to try new things each time. I asked her once about some of her negative reviews that go along with her many great reviews on the local board and she seemed rather irritated and said some of them are fake (presumably the negative ones). In fairness, one of the negative reviews says she has an Azores accent. She is a very white Portuguese girl, and while she spoke fluent English to me, I didn't pick up an African accent. So he either saw someone else, or it is a fake review.
Some of Sara's negative reviews (and as I said she has mostly positive ones) say she has a witchy face. As I posted before, I think this picture is a very good representation of her.
[URL]https://www.yahoo.com/news/tried-8-mcdonalds-breakfast-sandwiches-130800780.html[/URL]
I am more focused on body, attitude and performance than anything else. She is friendly, fun, loves sex and seems to really cum, is adventurous, has big natural breasts on a thin frame, and does the best BBBJTCIM of any girl I have been with. And I found her face to be cute enough.
But it is difficult to reconcile my good opinions, and of her many 8, 9 and 10 out of 10 reviews with the few other 4 and 5 out of ten reviews. We just all have different tastes, I guess.
Incidentally, EP just updated its site and now charges more for anal sex for the girls offering it.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sara-valente/3116/?list=3b61lo[/URL]
Hostility to reviews is certainly not unique to Portuguese girls. For a while, the large American review site dedicated to higher-end escorts was inaccessible to Americans. I asked a girl during the session what she thought about that. She said she was happy about it since she was tired of reading about the color of her butthole in reviews (I thought it looked fine). I was rather startled since I had found her through that site via her great reviews and she used it partially for screening. It seemed to me that she would appreciate the site. I guess the takeaway in writing reviews to not make the girl mad is:
Don't say you didn't find her face pretty.
Don't say you thought she was fat, and.
Don't say her anus isn't perfectly pink.
Maybe now I finally understand women.
The other valid criticism of the review process is that it tends to favor the older ladies. The longer a lady works, the more she gets reviewed. That is why I was excited to see the one new favorable review of Mia Tavares on the Eurogirlescorts site. We all hope it is valid because her pictures are smoking hot. Another new EP lady with fantastic pictures but no reviews at all is.
Margarida Vaz. Hopefully she gets a review soon.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
But the other reason we all use the review system is to simply avoid getting ripped off. One of the funniest reviews here on ISG from like eight years ago was of Mia Santos, who actually took a call on her cell phone and booked another session while the guy was pumping her in doggie style. Her reviews on Eurogirlescort has three negative reviews that she is an awful escort and a scammer. So we know not to see her.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/mia-santos/86282/?list=zi4ps[/URL]
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2699475]It's not like all reviews on that eurogirls site or massage republic are fake, but some obviously are. Maybe most are.
Just think about this from the lady's perspective. On an advertising site, their review sits right there with their ad. It is part of the ad. Forums are more reliable, but things can get lost on them. They are a bigger investment of time, both to keep your notices fresh and to gain credibility. Moreover, bad workers actually need fake reviews on the regular, to counter the real, negative reviews that will inevitably appear from the angry, misled customers.
A note about how EP advertises, based upon what their girls tell me. The agency has a website and automatically posts to certain other advertising sites, like Apartadox. Past that, the girl in question promotes themselves. So, whenever you see an EP girl featured somewhere, that is her paying for that. New photoshoot? Her doing too. If you see an obviously fake review for, say, Monica Melo or Vera Guerra, it was them. Whatever EP does, it does across the board.[/QUOTE]
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I concur with Mongerer on general points there. I was focusing on fake reviews before, but a separate problem are real reviewers who are jerks. On the local board, for example, a large chunk of regular participants are just plain cheap and think the ladies should have frozen prices back in 2010. Others are very hard or impossible to please, and think that is the world's problem. Etc. Etc etc.
The thing being, where does one run into what problem?. Jerks are found on forums. Fakes are found on advertising sites. More or less.
Whenever I have time -- meaning a misstep won't ruin the whole visit because I won't have the chance to make up for it. -- I make a point of trying it on with a lady it looks like I might fancy, but is unreviewed and know nothing about.
BTW, Mongerer -- the Azores are in the mid-Atlantic and the overwhelming majority of the residents are European Portuguese. A lot wind up immigrating to NJ or Boston for work. So, saying Sara sounds Azorean is basically like saying she sounds like she is from Minho -- it would be like an American complaining about a strong Missouri accent. He wasn't calling her African, just so you know.
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[QUOTE=Merrona;2698025]Hello everyone,
Does anyone knows whether there are reports of the following girls?
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1205[/URL][/QUOTE]Well, we have an answer on the first one you asked about, Carolina Morais.
Unfortunately it is bad news.
An experienced reviewer took one for the team and it was awful. He has given 9 out of 10 reviews to the other ladies he saw.
Fortunately, the other lady you asked about is still getting excellent reviews.
Here is the translated review of Carolina Morais, she of the stunningly great photos (which almost unfortunately he said are accurate).
"General Information.
Name: Carolina Morais.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: 21.
Place of Service: Luciano Cordeiro near the old White Elephant.
Price: €100 30 min. 200€ 1 h.
Hours: 10 h to 00 h.
Services.
Vaginal: With condom (obviously), normal.
Anal: No.
Oral: No condom (At cost).
Kiss: No.
Minute: Yes.
Massage: No.
CIM: No.
CIF: No.
GFE: No.
Physical Appearance.
Height: 1.72 m.
Hair: Smooth dyed blonde.
Skin: Same as pictures.
Brown eyes.
Weight: 60.
Face: 9.5/10.
Gorgeous but then the rest spoils everything.
Tits: 8/10.
Artificial, beautiful, but firm.
Butt: 7/10.
Legs: 7/10.
Feet: Normal.
Tattoos: several as in the photos.
Similarity to the Photos: 9/10 from the waist up.
Very reliable photos.
Attitude, Hygiene and Presentation.
Attitude: 1/10 Bad.
Attitude.
Attendance: 3/10.
Presentation: 6/10 She.
Was wearing make-up, but in normal clothes.
Punctuality: 1/10.
Delayed by more than half an hour.
Time Control: 5/10 Left well ahead of time, but scored in order to be in control.
Hygiene: 5/10.
Space.
Building: Small motel on Luciano Cordeiro.
Room: Typical hotel room. Good looking.
Performance.
Kisses: 0/10.
Vaginal: 5/10.
Normal, something wide already.
Oral: 2/10.
Bad, bad, bad.
Massage: 0/10.
No.
Unfortunately my first breakthrough is also my worst TD and worst experience in bitching.
In short, markup done.
Focus on the oral issue having to be natural to which she replied that it would be so as long as it was clean and hairless.
Appointment, and as I live close by 10 minutes before I call and nothing, I call again and nothing, I had already thought I was going take a bath and unfortunately there she calls me to apologize but that she had gotten lost in the appointments.
Unfortunately because the summary I make of this TD was almost the same thing as picking up the notes and having it caught fire.
When I arrive at the place I recognize the same, it is a very pleasant space that the GPS who are in Trombinhas use to go with customers, I had already been there a couple of times.
As soon as I arrive, she comes to me from the hallway and I thought to myself, this promises; the girl is beautiful and very good looking. And so the positive ends, as soon as he opens his mouth, the voice that I didn't like much on the phone sounds even worse, I didn't realize if it was from the day that it was all spoiled or if her voice was just like that.
We went into the room, he asked how long he was going to stay and he started right away with the story that normally he was taking longer now and that he worked in a house (it must be the trombinhas) and that normally it was this and that and that he had to pay beforehand because with her it was like that.
Meanwhile talk, talk, talk and I'm thinking you're here wasting time but it's ok for me to see how far the girl's impudence went and it went quite far, I must have thought I needed a psychologist, meanwhile there you start to undress and I was already halfway there too, here comes the first disappointment the ass is quite flaccid and in need of gym, in the photos you can't see it but in the video if you look at the second 9 you can get an idea and by chance I had noticed that detail but It's a little more flaccid than I even expected.
She starts to stroke the body that looked like she wanted to tickle me, I direct her attention to the smallest one and she doesn't, after a while she asks if everything is ok, she should have been waiting for him to get his dick just looking at him. She says that that way you can't put the condom on and I tell her of course not that she has to put it on and that I said I sucked without and I start to show a bad face; after that, she starts to suckle badly and sometimes she didn't even feel anything from such a bad nipple, there I put my hands on her breasts and says that she can't, because they are sensitive because of the operation, in fact it is noticed that they must be recent and they are beautiful but too hard. That was all I could feel in the brief contact I had with them.
I ask if I can suck her in that case and she says yes with an air of freight, there I am a good bit back from the oratory arts and she is almost without reaction and clearly holding back any reaction, the situation of being hairless for her is not worth that my beard was 3 days old and as it hadn't been washed it had that sweaty smell, so I wasn't there long.
Then I ask to come upstairs and it was the best part, it was set up with a slow pace, but it was the eye fuck scene, the view from there was very good, the Hardware from the waist up is top, too bad the software is installed, I think it will be the mercenary 3.0.
Then I asked to eat her from behind and I gave a few stronger thrusts after a while and she started to say that it couldn't be that rough, here I was already in "quesafuck" mode, then we rotated to the PMM and I've never fucked a doll inflatable but it should be more or less this; I ended up thinking exactly this.
In short, eye fuck, very bad posture, zero professionalism.
I won't be able to find it again anytime soon.
It went very wrong with me, but it may be that other confreres do better for him."
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Thanks for the information. Yes, it is bewildering why some guys spend so much money on a voluntary activity and never seem pleased.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2699810]I concur with Mongerer on general points there. I was focusing on fake reviews before, but a separate problem are real reviewers who are jerks. On the local board, for example, a large chunk of regular participants are just plain cheap and think the ladies should have frozen prices back in 2010. Others are very hard or impossible to please, and think that is the world's problem. Etc. Etc etc.
The thing being, where does one run into what problem?. Jerks are found on forums. Fakes are found on advertising sites. More or less.
Whenever I have time -- meaning a misstep won't ruin the whole visit because I won't have the chance to make up for it. -- I make a point of trying it on with a lady it looks like I might fancy, but is unreviewed and know nothing about.
BTW, Mongerer -- the Azores are in the mid-Atlantic and the overwhelming majority of the residents are European Portuguese. A lot wind up immigrating to NJ or Boston for work. So, saying Sara sounds Azorean is basically like saying she sounds like she is from Minho -- it would be like an American complaining about a strong Missouri accent. He wasn't calling her African, just so you know.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kephren0;2699327]A sure sign that a site is running fake reviews is when they are all of the exact same length. Also, you can usually tell they're fake if they are written in the same style, although this is hard for a non-native speaker to spot. Really I think that this board (for Lisbon) is probably the best resource. I'm planning a one month trip mid-June and I've already got a list of 10 must-see girls, thanks to this board. I'll probably give reports on all of them, just to "give back." I really appreciate this board and wish I'd discovered it prior to my trip to Lisbon earlier this year.[/QUOTE]One good thing about looking at different review sites is that it gives some assurance of accuracy.
Joana Montenegro has now received very favorable reviews on eurogirlescorts, the big American review site dedicated to high-end escorts, and on the local Portuguese review site. And one of her best Eurogirlsescort reviews was written in French. That would be a lot of effort to fake, and in fact impossible since the reviewer on the local Portugal site has done multiple reviews. So there is benefit to looking through all the various sites.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/joana-montenegro/158766/?list=5e22yo[/URL]
Here is the translated version of her 10 out of 10 review on the local review board, which confirms CIM and puts her age at 25 to 27 as of now.
"Another trip to Lisbon and another big PHODA with a girl from the EP!
I had been walking around for some time with Joana's photos in mind and that's when I decided to take the risk, since I didn't find any reports of meetings with this companion. I had communicated the day before via WhatsApp and since then Joana seemed approachable and friendly, judging by the way she wrote to me.
Arrived at the appointed time, insisted on receiving only at the end. It's round face. She asked to go take a shower and for me to accompany her. In that piece of conversation, she immediately created a good atmosphere and made sure I understood that she knows that the amount she asks for is high, but that she likes to repay her according to the value.
It's time to take off your clothes and enjoy that fantastic body: you have the right weight, good body, high qb and ass and big tits, just the way I like it. Kisses on the way to the toilet. She washed me and I washed her, I made sure to be thorough.
After drying, already in the room, a few more kisses followed, as time went by and she started the oral. Very good and with all the technique, in such a way that I don't even need to detail. He asked if he wanted to cover up and move on to sex, but said he preferred to continue oral, maybe with a 69. He agreed without hesitation and with a naughty smile and got on top of me. He rubbed himself all over my face as he made me one of the best brooches I've ever received, to the point where I started to question who was eating who.
However, I was already in risk containment when I asked to put on the condom, which he insisted on putting on with his lips and without breaking eye contact.
She started at the top, in a good cowgirl. First she does all the work, then she holds the position and I do my best underneath. Wheel for reverse cowgirl, what a sight that fantastic ass bouncing around with my dick stuck there.
Then I addressed the topic of anal (advertised in the ad). She explained that she probably wouldn't make it with my size, but that she would be happy to at least try. I ended up giving up, because it was being visibly painful. She said maybe next time she'll take a plug to "set the stage" before the Excalibur arrives. I understand and I don't take it wrong.
So, back to that tight and appetizing vagina, now on all fours. And it was resting on that phenomenal fart until I couldn't take it anymore.
At the end, already on the verge of the explosion, I asked her to make the final effort to suck, so that she could end up on her face. And so it went, in great abundance, half still in her mouth, half in her face, with her jerking off with one hand and covering her eyes with the other.
I look at the clock and 56 minutes have passed. Good timing. I was able to lie down for a few minutes to give some kisses to recover and for one more shower, before each one went to his life.
It was a very well spent hour with company that lived up to expectations. As I wrote in a previous review, there's nothing like sex with delivery associated with some comedy and a good atmosphere, to elevate the experience to what I consider to be the best that an escort can provide. And for that I give Joana a 10/10!
Treat me well, because Joana is a sweetheart and deserves all the affection.
To be repeated!
Pussy_hound69 out!
Technical data.
Nom de guerre: Joana Montenegro (EP).
Nationality: Portuguese.
Age: Says 21, must be around 25.
Height: Tall qb.
Weight: Perfect.
Color: Chocolate with milk (so, but so sexy).
Hair: Black.
Eyes: I don't remember.
Face: Beautiful.
Body: Perfect (as in the pictures).
Chest: Big and natural.
Tail: Big and very nice.
Belly: Perfect.
Tattoos: I don't remember (but I don't think so), but I had a tongue piercing.
Oral: natural: 10/10.
Vaginal: 10/10.
Ambience: 10/10.
Anal: Yes (we tried, but it didn't work).
Kiss: Yes, very well.
Hygiene: Impeccable.
Location: Hotel.
Price: 150€/ h.
Time control: We fuck without looking to watch.
Payment: In the end".
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2699810] the Azores are in the mid-Atlantic and the overwhelming majority of the residents are European Portuguese. A lot wind up immigrating to NJ or Boston for work. So, saying Sara sounds Azorean is basically like saying she sounds like she is from Minho -- it would be like an American complaining about a strong Missouri accent. He wasn't calling her African, just so you know.[/QUOTE]Exactly. And even the so called "Azorean accent" is mostly from the São Miguel island. And it can surely be quite hard to understand.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2700411]Exactly. And even the so called "Azorean accent" is mostly from the So Miguel island. And it can surely be quite hard to understand.[/QUOTE]Well, Sara's English is fluent and she speaks it like a middle-upper class dialect-neutral person from the USA Midwest (excluding Missouri), so unless those Islanders learn to speak English better than Portuguese, my money is still on it being a fake review like she said some of them are.
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Bianca Pereira
Saw Bianca recently. EP girl.
Easy WhatsApp communication, her English is really good. Showed up on time and with no drama. Very pretty and her body was fantastic. I'm not a fan of bolt-ons but hers looked good. Also, not a fan of the excessive lip plumping. But still very pretty and best of all very friendly. You probably need to take more control than I did because if you don't lead not much will happen.
Good BJ, very tight for sex as it seemed to not want to go in. Excellent conversation after.
I do recommend.
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Need some incall recommendations
Hey guys,
I'm only in Lisbon for a couple more days, and I don't have much time to do a research. So, would anyone be able to give a few recommendations for incalls not too far from Alfama / downtown area? I noticed that EscortPrivada is one of the more popular sites, but from what I understand they only offer outcalls. If anyone could just give a few incall recommendations for a guaranteed good time, would really appreciate it!
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Go back to post 4140. With two exceptions, every one of those independents has incall. The two exceptions are the former EP ladies. But you still have lots to choose from and they are among the highest regarded independents in Lisbon.
[QUOTE=CasualHobbyist;2700597]Hey guys,
I'm only in Lisbon for a couple more days, and I don't have much time to do a research. So, would anyone be able to give a few recommendations for incalls not too far from Alfama / downtown area? I noticed that EscortPrivada is one of the more popular sites, but from what I understand they only offer outcalls. If anyone could just give a few incall recommendations for a guaranteed good time, would really appreciate it![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2700603]Go back to post 4140. With two exceptions, every one of those independents has incall. The two exceptions are the former EP ladies. But you still have lots to choose from and they are among the highest regarded independents in Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Thanks so much, Mongerer88! I did some search on ApartaDox as well, but when you filter by incalls, I only got like 5 results, and couldn't find any reviews on them on gp. Pt.
I'll check out your post, thanks again!
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[QUOTE=CasualHobbyist;2700628]Thanks so much, Mongerer88! I did some search on ApartaDox as well, but when you filter by incalls, I only got like 5 results, and couldn't find any reviews on them on gp. Pt.
I'll check out your post, thanks again![/QUOTE]That sounds like a search or syntax error. Like 80 or 90% of the ladies advertising there are primarily or solely incall. That is the case for all the photo-verified advertising sites (as EP is an agency, not an ad site).
Just to throw out some names from all the photo-verified sites, these are well-regarded ladies who I think are still downtown. The thing to remember is most have rooms near Marques de Pomball or Saldana. I have no idea who, if anyone, of quality is working in Alfama. And I may be wrong about the location. The ladies move.
Eller Rocha
Eva Sanchez
Isis Lisboa
Cleo
Tati Bernardino
There are certainly others in downtown proper I am not aware of, just as there are others farther afield that I know of
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2699884]Well, we have an answer on the first one you asked about, Carolina Morais.
Unfortunately it is bad news.
An experienced reviewer took one for the team and it was awful. He has given 9 out of 10 reviews to the other ladies he saw.
Fortunately, the other lady you asked about is still getting excellent reviews.[/QUOTE]Thank you, Mongerer!
The review sounds terrible, I'll definitely avoid Carolina Morais. The price is higher than the other girls and the quality of the service is not good.
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Rules of the Road in Portugal
I'll be spending a month in Lisbon early this summer and am planning to do a lot of hobbying. Since my experience is almost entirely limited to high-end escorts in a country where hobbying isn't legal, I'm hoping that one of you more experienced gentleman can do a little online mentoring. Here are my questions:
1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?
2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?
3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?
4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.).
5. Is there anything that's unique to hobbying in Portugal that a newbie wouldn't know?
I apologize in advance for being so ignorant. I've been reading this forum religiously for the past two months and really appreciate the work that everyone is putting into it.
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Bianca, etc
[QUOTE=CBuilder;2700586]Saw Bianca recently. EP girl.
Easy WhatsApp communication, her English is really good. Showed up on time and with no drama. Very pretty and her body was fantastic. I'm not a fan of bolt-ons but hers looked good. Also, not a fan of the excessive lip plumping. But still very pretty and best of all very friendly. You probably need to take more control than I did because if you don't lead not much will happen.
Good BJ, very tight for sex as it seemed to not want to go in. Excellent conversation after.
I do recommend.[/QUOTE]Bianca is great, I recommend her too. Ukrainian descent. Amazing body and tight like the pics. Very pretty. Tattoos photoshopped out but reminded me of Liya Silva for the one under her tits, upper torso. Easy to communicate via WhatsApp. Gave recommendations for her friends too at first when she thought she wasn't available. LK, DATY, CG, DS, MISH, great conversation afterwards too. She was really fun and gave good tips on sightseeing. Seems like she's very low volume and called herself lazy.
Anyway, Bianca was a solid pick so thanks to the folks on this board.
A fail and a win though. I tried to go to Elefante Branco and I couldn't get in. It took me a while to figure out where it was and then when I tried to go in, a guy left with three really good looking girls, and an older group of Russian looking guys tried to go in and we're denied. I didn't try to go in after them.
I did end up going to the Black Tie Club at 4 am in the morning. I'm wondering if that's where the girls go if they don't end up with dates or had bad luck at Elefante Branco. Not sure, anyone know? I ended up at table and a good looking blonde Guatemalan and a cute Romanian girl chatted me up. The Guatemalan tried to make me buy a bottle of champagne and I wasn't having it. I did end up getting the Romanian girl's WhatsApp number. I bounced quickly after that and went back to my hotel. I texted the Romanian girl and she was in my hotel room by 5:30 am. 19, pretty face, nice ass and super cool.
I saw Bianca later that evening. LOL. I wish I had a couple more weeks in Lisbon, maybe later this year. This group is great. Solid info and discussion. Much appreciated.
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Hotel breakfast
Saw a 40's balding white guy with a 20's thin, pretty Portuguese girl at breakfast at my hotel. Thought pretty strong move bringing her to breakfast. Then I noticed they didn't talk once and he looked at his phone the whole time and realized they probably are a couple.
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Clara Senna
Clara Senna.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]#videobarra.
Saw her at her place. Pretty confusing how to get there. Her apartment was behind the street she gave me. The street number was nowhere to be found, but I went were her map directed and I was in the right place. Had to wait a bit because I was early. Some dude in what can only be described as an alley was out the whole time I was waiting. But once in I found a model thin, tall, pretty brunette. Weird blue lights in her apartment.
Cons:
Not really much English, but I'm in Portugal, so that's really my problem.
Finding apartment.
Pros:
Felt safe once inside.
Great body.
Pretty face.
Was put together when I got there.
Good BBBJ.
Good kissing.
Felt comfortable with her.
Someone else said she has a roommate. That could be but I didn't see any evidence of it.
120 for 1 hour. I wonder what she would charge to come to my hotel?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2700735]That sounds like a search or syntax error. Like 80 or 90% of the ladies advertising there are primarily or solely incall. That is the case for all the photo-verified advertising sites (as EP is an agency, not an ad site).[/QUOTE]You're right, I was using nationality = Portuguese as a filter, that narrows down the search quite a bit.
Thanks for the recommendations. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I tried texting a bunch of girls yesterday via WhatsApp, and only one replied so far. First I used Google Translate to get an introductory message in Portuguese and inquire about availability. Then, since some ladies mention they speak English, I tried sending messages in English as well. Again, no response. Maybe they get spooked by the fact that my phone number isn't local (starts with +1 country code)? One even seemed to have blocked me without replying, and I wasn't creepy at all, LOL. Just a polite greeting, and inquiry about availability.
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There are no hard and fast rules.
In general, paying at the end to the extent that the money is not shown until the end is a third-world concept designed to about the cash & dash done by lower-end hookers, and as part of the petty gameplay that exists in the third world, it shows the dominance of one party over the other in the transaction, which is often important in a male-dominated culture. Portugal isn't a third-world country, or a patriarchy. This same concept bewilders many in that the escort does not encounter a machine gun wielding security person upon entering the hotel, and she is allowed to walk around the hotel by herself and even enter the elevator unsupervised and go to a room and knock.
So unless you are booking from the lowest of the low on a classified ad, just put the money in an envelope with a few bills clearly sticking out. She will probably more it with her eyes and not touch it till the end. A few will stick it in her purse. A very few will count each bill before the session starts, but then she has to worry about appearing to be a third-world girl. A compromise is that some will quietly put it in her purse and count it in the bathroom. Face-saving games occur among first-world people, too. We just aren't as blunt about it.
Tipping is not part of the escort culture in Portugal. If you do it, best not to mention it here. You will likely never be asked for a tip from an escort. Especially if it is outcall, you might hand her a bill if the service was great and say this is in case you incurred a parking charge at the hotel. It avoids the awkwardness of tipping in a non-tipping culture, just as rounding up and leaving coins at the table is part of restaurant culture without it being really called tipping.
BBFS is not a thing. There are reports of a lady or two initiating it to the shock of the customer, and those reports are often deleted or modified on the local board. One long departed EP lady was known to do it, and I mentioned it to him via PM (I am not into BBFS, I just read it in a report and conveyed the info to a guy who asked me about it via PM. She apparently did BBFS with him and when he asked EP to send him another BBFS lady they wouldn't serve him any longer. So as with the USA And Canada, asking for it directly can ruin your trip and cause sessions and relationships to end.
Extras are unknown, as payment for extras have just been started by EP. It was never previously a thing in Portugal. Anal sex is not always successful, but there is generally a lot of lubing and anal play involved, and some ladies claim that if they know a customer wants anal beforehand they change their eating habits and a few do a minor water-based enema beforehand, even though most doctors recommend against this. Bottom-line is that if a lot of butt-stuff is involved, she probably expects her listed 50 euro supplement even if full extended anal intercourse doesn't occur. But some girls might give it back. There are so many unknowns and uncertainties with upsells. Most EP ladies are not charging extra for CIM but a few list a supplement for swallowing. How are they going to react if you decide in a moment of passion or frugality to French-kiss them after CIM and do snowballing. Do you still owe the 50 euros for swallowing if she was planning to do so? I suspect the few with that surcharge will discuss it beforehand.
The independents are not yet listing anal and swallowing upcharge, so time will tell about this.
[QUOTE=Kephren0;2700797]I'll be spending a month in Lisbon early this summer and am planning to do a lot of hobbying. Since my experience is almost entirely limited to high-end escorts in a country where hobbying isn't legal, I'm hoping that one of you more experienced gentleman can do a little online mentoring. Here are my questions:
1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?
2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?
3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?
4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.)..[/QUOTE]
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When to pay is up to the lady or venue. It is sometimes before and sometimes after. Previously agreed upon extras would be folded into that, and tipping is not expected. So that is very much your call.
BBFS is not advertised. It is frowned upon, even scorned in the industry. My impression is asking for it during your WhatsApp exchange or call will terminate your inquiry half the time. The local board has been known to purge reports of and questions about it.
However, sometimes the lady digs you and it happens. That isn't an extra, more of a compliment.
[QUOTE=Kephren0;2700797]I'll be spending a month in Lisbon early this summer and am planning to do a lot of hobbying. Since my experience is almost entirely limited to high-end escorts in a country where hobbying isn't legal, I'm hoping that one of you more experienced gentleman can do a little online mentoring. Here are my questions:
1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?
2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?
3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?
4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.).
5. Is there anything that's unique to hobbying in Portugal that a newbie wouldn't know?
I apologize in advance for being so ignorant. I've been reading this forum religiously for the past two months and really appreciate the work that everyone is putting into it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kephren0;2700797]
1. Is payment usually provided up-front or afterwards?
2. Are requested (and agreed-to) extras paid for up-front or afterwards?
3. What is a reasonable tip for excellent service?
4. Is BBFS a thing in Portugal? (I once had a US provider surprise me mid-session.).
5. Is there anything that's unique to hobbying in Portugal that a newbie wouldn't know?
I apologize in advance for being so ignorant. I've been reading this forum religiously for the past two months and really appreciate the work that everyone is putting into it.[/QUOTE]1. Usually up-front. But, with some ladies, even on a first meeting, you can do it afterwards. It's not a rule but these tend to offer a better service.
2. The same.
3. It's up to you. I'd say something like 20% of the regular fee.
4. Not "a thing" but it may happen.
5. Not really. I think.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2700991]1. Usually up-front. But, with some ladies, even on a first meeting, you can do it afterwards. It's not a rule but these tend to offer a better service.
2. The same.
3. It's up to you. I'd say something like 20% of the regular fee.
4. Not "a thing" but it may happen.
5. Not really. I think.[/QUOTE]1. Very interesting. I've seen about 7-8 ladies in Lisbon, about half EP and half other websites and none have ever requested or even mentioned up-front payment. I had been leaving the money on a table in the room but never any mention of payment up front, even when I didn't do that (and just paid afterwards).
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Eller Rocha
Got to see a beautiful Eller Rocha. Had a really good time. Amazing oral skills, and super tight and fit body. Also, very quick responses, and she was ready right on time. Pierced nipples is not really my thing, but I didn't mind too much. Also, I have a feeling that I paid a "tourist tax", since I mentioned that I'm visiting and her rate wasn't mentioned in the ad. But it was totally worth it in the end, and it's close to what I usually pay back home anyway. Another small issue was that she doesn't speak English (same as previous poster mentioned. That's my problem), but that didn't impact my experience much, she seemed to follow the directions rather well. DFK and BBBJ were on the menu, but no anal, which she mentioned in our exchange.
Thanks for all the recommendations, guys!
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Most ads don't mention rates, and even when they do, one should ask first. Nobody minds being asked about rates and available services.
How much did you pay? Last I heard, Eller was asking 150/ HR for incall.
[QUOTE=CasualHobbyist;2701125]Got to see a beautiful Eller Rocha. Had a really good time. Amazing oral skills, and super tight and fit body. Also, very quick responses, and she was ready right on time. Pierced nipples is not really my thing, but I didn't mind too much. Also, I have a feeling that I paid a "tourist tax", since I mentioned that I'm visiting and her rate wasn't mentioned in the ad. But it was totally worth it in the end, and it's close to what I usually pay back home anyway. Another small issue was that she doesn't speak English (same as previous poster mentioned. That's my problem), but that didn't impact my experience much, she seemed to follow the directions rather well. DFK and BBBJ were on the menu, but no anal, which she mentioned in our exchange.
Thanks for all the recommendations, guys![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2701299]Most ads don't mention rates, and even when they do, one should ask first. Nobody minds being asked about rates and available services.
How much did you pay? Last I heard, Eller was asking 150/ HR for incall.[/QUOTE]Not sure if that's OK to post rates here, but it was quite above that. Yeah, I was expecting more around 150, but I honestly didn't mind, had a really great time.
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I inquire from my foreign phone all the time, but I always ask if they speak English first. I speak some Portuguese, but don't pretend fluency. Maybe that is it -- it seems more polite.
Try starting with "Ola XXX, fala Ingles?
And sometimes they never respond. Maybe the lady was busy or not working or had a full schedule already that day, and figured there was no point in following up? It's considered bad manners by some to text back hours or days later, because it is indiscrete. Your wife might be right there.
[QUOTE=CasualHobbyist;2700904]You're right, I was using nationality = Portuguese as a filter, that narrows down the search quite a bit.
Thanks for the recommendations. I don't know what I'm doing wrong, I tried texting a bunch of girls yesterday via WhatsApp, and only one replied so far. First I used Google Translate to get an introductory message in Portuguese and inquire about availability. Then, since some ladies mention they speak English, I tried sending messages in English as well. Again, no response. Maybe they get spooked by the fact that my phone number isn't local (starts with +1 country code)? One even seemed to have blocked me without replying, and I wasn't creepy at all, LOL. Just a polite greeting, and inquiry about availability.[/QUOTE]
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Sugar baby ROTF
[QUOTE=CBuilder;2700887]Saw a 40's balding white guy with a 20's thin, pretty Portuguese girl at breakfast at my hotel. Thought pretty strong move bringing her to breakfast. Then I noticed they didn't talk once and he looked at his phone the whole time and realized they probably are a couple.[/QUOTE]
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Joana (ex Joana de Sa)
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2614202]Joana (ex-Joana de S), the amazing Portuguese multi-orgasmic, squirting, BBBJ queen of the galaxy is back. [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/joana-3/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.
I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.
Do you know if Joana is back again?
And my other favorite Miss Margarida?
If not, can you recommend someone comparable?
Muito obrigado.
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Marco Capa,
The trail for those two goes cold on the local board. Hopefully Kama can find them for you. I did the post below with links to many independents with great reviews. Most are in their 30's and experienced, so it isn't that difficult to find a similar replacement, perhaps even an upgrade, for past loves.
You might pay particular attention to Ines and her many good reviews.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
While the post below has the most reviewed ladies, I should have included Tati Bernardi, who got an excellent review here on ISG and has mostly great reviews on the local board.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753.html[/URL]
And after I did that post, Clara Senna got a very good review here on ISG to go with her very good reviews on the local board.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1237[/URL]
As you know, I mostly track the Escort Privada ladies, which may not interest you, but they have several experienced ladies with great reviews. The ones listed below are all older than their listed ages.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/julia-nobrega/[/URL]
So if you review the post below that I bumped, and the links above, you will find plenty to choose from. In the post below, note that Carolina Belmont receives a lot of favorable mentions for extended dinner dates for English speakers, although extended dates with her are not inexpensive.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2697369]Here are the BBBJ independents with great reviews that are mentioned in the last 10 pages, or who I remember from past posts, in case any are of interest. I know I am not mentioning them all. The first one, Ines, is mentioned favorably now on all three big review boards. And Carolina Belmont is becoming something of a legend. Carolina, Rita and Adriana are all former EP ladies, so they know the outcall procedure.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rita-Gomes--5628.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Rossi-6565.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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If Margarida is who I am thinking of, there hasn't been a peep from or about her in at least 4 years. Maybe 5. Never met the lady. I only remember her reputation.
Joana de Sa has been known to stop advertising, but continue working and only see established clients. For a couple of years, in fact, she only advertised when her regulars weren't keeping her busy enough -- the she would "open the books." When she came back after the pandemic, she explicitly said she was only working part-time. She was already looking to transition out of escorting in 2019. So, she may be seeing only favored clients; she may be taking a break for whatever reason; or she may be retired.
[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.
I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.
Do you know if Joana is back again?
And my other favorite Miss Margarida?
If not, can you recommend someone comparable?
Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88,
I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.
Do you know if Joana is back again?
And my other favorite Miss Margarida?
If not, can you recommend someone comparable?
Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]Not sure if anal and CIM were reasons you liked these two, but here is another independent who is getting excellent reviews on the local board, appears to always be up for anal and CIM, and is not as expensive as many others, including the EP ladies who are charging a supplement for anal. The reviews say she has a little bit of a belly, but it is not described as being a major detriment. She goes by the names Bruna Monteiro and Maya. Her ads say she speaks English, but that has not been confirmed, and one of her ads says she accepts WhatsApp.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1196[/URL]
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/340028-ninfeta-apertadinha-adora-anal[/URL]#group=galeria_340028&photo=340028.
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/maya[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2702391]Dear Kama LEO and other friends, including in particular Mongerer88.
I will finally return to Lisbon after 3 years.
Do you know if Joana is back again?
And my other favorite Miss Margarida?
If not, can you recommend someone comparable?
Muito obrigado.[/QUOTE]As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.
There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL], [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] or Inês [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].
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Re: Joana (ex Joana de Sa)
Dear Kama LEão, Mongerer and ExExpatriate.
Wow! Many thanks for such extensive and detailed recommendations! I will make sure to meet at least a couple of these girls when I come to Lisbon in a month.
Really appreciate it.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2702710]As ExExpatriate and Mongerer have said, both Joana and Miss Margarida have, for quite some time, apparently given up / suspended their activity.
There's no one now remotely comparable to them. But you might try Bia / Ana Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL], [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] or Ins [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Inexpensive Massage
Since this has come up recently, I want to add some recent local review board info about Klass Massage. This is a well-established knocking shop near Campo Pequeno. Two of their ladies, Vitoria and Melissa, recently got middling, satisfactory grades. 7 out of 10.
The main thing to note is the prices are still 60 e for 1/2 hour and 100 e for 1 hour.
This is a place where body to body massage ending in FS is standard.
I am linking to their own website, but all the ladies advertise on docemassagem, so those pics are verified.
[URL]http://www.klass-massage.com/[/URL]
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First Timer - 35 yo+ Provider Suggestions?
Hey all,
I'll be in Lisbon in mid-June. This is going to be my first time with an escort (in any country), and I'm hoping to find a provider who's 35-50. I'm generally open to all body types and ethnicities but do have a preference towards curvy MILF types.
Does anyone have specific suggestions for providers or best sites to find an escort? Any tips for a first-timer in Lisbon?
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Some beginner questions
I'll be visiting Lisbon with my brother for about 10 days so I would like to avoid outcalls to my hotel as much as possible. I think brothels are not allowed. So are massage parlors or incall the next best options? Are incalls safe?
Is it possible to pay with credit card or do I need to get cash? What will be the best way to get local currency for USD?
My goal is to sleep with as many hot girls as possible on this trip. Is 150/ HR a good deal?
If a girl is listed rate for one hour are they willing to doing 30 minutes as well?
Thanks!
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EP Revamp
In case it has escaped notice, Escort Privada revamped their website. There are two key new features.
One is it tells you who wants you to know who is actively seeking at that moment. My understanding is that EP actually owns the phone numbers their ladies use, and some of those ladies prefer to let a central handler make appointments while others prefer to do that themselves. Regardless, the agency sees everything.
Keeping that in mind and that all EP ladies advertise on Apartadox, I think their own website is now worth checking if you want an immediate response. Turning on the green dot on Apartadox site was always an extra step that few EP girls bother with.
The other thing is that they have added a menu for extra services, such as anal. The cheapos on the local board have actually been griping about what is an industry standard in Lisbon for weeks now (it's typical for a lady to charge extra for certain things), and now I see that is due to a new agency policy and feature.
As usual, they miss the point -- if you pay a girl for a swallow, she is doing it. It takes the guessing out of it, which they also griped about endlessly. Also, that they did all this without raising the basic rate means said rate will probably go unchanged for a while longer.
For those of us who already are in Lisbon with a hotel room for outcall, that is a very good deal.
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Most ladies operate in cash and I strongly suggest you follow the cash rule. Frankly, I would worry about giving anyone in this industry a credit number, legal business or not.
IMO, if you are dealing with an incall lady from a photo-verified website, that is reasonably safe. These are the upper third of Portugal's sex workers -- they aren't looking to roll anybody. I summarized what those sites are a few pages back.
Brothels are one of those letter of the law issues Technically speaking, profiting from the sex work of another is illegal. Practically, there are fictions and loopholes. That is how brothels and FS Massage spas operate. So don't worry about that either way. What you will find are rooms secreted away in office suites and normal apartments, and most are long established in place.
The basic going rate currently floats between 100 and 150 per hour, leaning more towards 150.
The truth is that once you factor in fees and all that, you need to exchange a low four figure sum before the difference between the bank and a multibanco / ATM matters. The main issue isn't what is cheapest, but that there is a 200 euro limit per day on ATMs for foreign cards in Portugal. So, you should plan on bringing some cash to exchange at the start unless you want to operate on a one hour per day plus pocket money budget.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;2704109]I'll be visiting Lisbon with my brother for about 10 days so I would like to avoid outcalls to my hotel as much as possible. I think brothels are not allowed. So are massage parlors or incall the next best options? Are incalls safe?
Is it possible to pay with credit card or do I need to get cash? What will be the best way to get local currency for USD?
My goal is to sleep with as many hot girls as possible on this trip. Is 150/ HR a good deal?
If a girl is listed rate for one hour are they willing to doing 30 minutes as well?
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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I don't want to ignore you, but I cannot refer anyone of your type from first-person experience. If nobody weighs in or you want more options, tell me who suits your fancy from the verified sites and I will tell you what the locals say about her.
See below for more.
[QUOTE=TravelingJoe;2704083]Hey all..[/QUOTE]
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Traveling Joe and Miami Heat.
Have you guys read through the thread?
Kama gave us one of his favorite curvy MILFs (Bia Santos) and he and ExExpatriate know Lisbon better than anyone.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL]
Posts 4189,4187 and 4140 list a large number of Lisbon independents, almost all of which offer incall, and do 30 minute sessions if that is what the customer purchases.
The ads specify whether they offer incall. You need to contact them via WhatsApp to ask detailed location and prices.
There are at least ten independent ladies in those posts who definitely offer incall. We work hard to identify and list the best that Lisbon has to offer, based on reviews.
Most, if not all, have been reviewed here on ISG if you will use the Search function, but most of the good reviews have been identified on the local board.
Plenty of them to keep you happy in Lisbon even if you just do incall. Uber is active and will get you around. Use your smartphone to translate to Portuguese when necessary.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2704148]Most ladies operate in cash and I strongly suggest you follow the cash rule. Frankly, I would worry about giving anyone in this industry a credit number, legal business or not.
IMO, if you are dealing with an incall lady from a photo-verified website, that is reasonably safe. These are the upper third of Portugal's sex workers -- they aren't looking to roll anybody. I summarized what those sites are a few pages back.
Brothels are one of those letter of the law issues Technically speaking, profiting from the sex work of another is illegal. Practically, there are fictions and loopholes. That is how brothels and FS Massage spas operate. So don't worry about that either way. What you will find are rooms secreted away in office suites and normal apartments, and most are long established in place.
The basic going rate currently floats between 100 and 150 per hour, leaning more towards 150.
The truth is that once you factor in fees and all that, you need to exchange a low four figure sum before the difference between the bank and a multibanco / ATM matters. The main issue isn't what is cheapest, but that there is a 200 euro limit per day on ATMs for foreign cards in Portugal. So, you should plan on bringing some cash to exchange at the start unless you want to operate on a one hour per day plus pocket money budget.[/QUOTE]Thanks ExExpatriate, this is very helpful! Only remaining question is whether it is allowed / common to ask for 30 minutes instead of one hour even if they only list one hour rates? Cheers.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2704151]I don't want to ignore you, but I cannot refer anyone of your type from first-person experience. If nobody weighs in or you want more options, tell me who suits your fancy from the verified sites and I will tell you what the locals say about her.
See below for more.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your response regardless! Here are a few providers I was considering:
1. Pamela Hipólito: [URL]https://www.portuas.com/acompanhantes/lisboa/mulher-linda-madura-e-bem-resolvida-amor-id-cydgk[/URL].
2. Patrícia Telles: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=682[/URL].
3. Manú Lobo: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1276[/URL].
4. Maria Eduarda F: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=722[/URL].
5. Rafaela Albuquerque: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=597[/URL].
6. Francine: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1258[/URL].
7. Maria Inês: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=997[/URL]#fotosbarra.
If you or anyone else has any suggestions / reviews for any of them, I'd appreciate any thoughts!
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[QUOTE=TravelingJoe;2704371]Thanks for your response regardless! Here are a few providers I was considering![/QUOTE]We were actually discussing Pamela Hippolito a couple of weeks ago -- Kama says to skip her. Actually, Kama seems to share your preferences to a large extent. Perhaps he will make some suggestions.
Kelly Fontini (aka Lara Chavez) is regarded as a veteran and an average, satisfactory escort. My take is she charges a fair price and delivers a fair service, but is nothing spectacular.
Local reviews of Rafaela Albuquerque and Patricia Telles are mixed. Some loved those ladies, some hated them and some gave them average marks. Telles has a long track record, going back 5 years.
I don't recall reading about the others.
One lady who might be your type and I have had my eye on is Beatriz Resende. The locals give her high marks.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Beatriz-Resende-4936.html[/URL]
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1/2 hour sessions are common, but pricing for them is all over the place. Expect to be quoted anywhere from 60 to 80% of the hourly rate.
[QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;2704294]Thanks ExExpatriate, this is very helpful! Only remaining question is whether it is allowed / common to ask for 30 minutes instead of one hour even if they only list one hour rates? Cheers.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2704171]Traveling Joe and Miami Heat.
Have you guys read through the thread?
Kama gave us one of his favorite curvy MILFs (Bia Santos) and he and ExExpatriate know Lisbon better than anyone.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL]
Posts 4189,4187 and 4140 list a large number of Lisbon independents, almost all of which offer incall, and do 30 minute sessions if that is what the customer purchases.
The ads specify whether they offer incall. You need to contact them via WhatsApp to ask detailed location and prices.
There are at least ten independent ladies in those posts who definitely offer incall. We work hard to identify and list the best that Lisbon has to offer, based on reviews..[/QUOTE]Thank you! I appreciate it and will be checking to those suggested. Other than incalls I was wondering about massages as well. I have gone through the massage parlor websites but there are so many different massages I can't tell which ones will mean full service? Any breakdown of what it means to get a relaxation, Thai, tantric, nuru, etc (listing examples from Klays massage) and what might be the best deal if I just want to sleep with hot masseuses?
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;2704481]Thank you! I appreciate it and will be checking to those suggested. Other than incalls I was wondering about massages as well. I have gone through the massage parlor websites but there are so many different massages I can't tell which ones will mean full service? Any breakdown of what it means to get a relaxation, Thai, tantric, nuru, etc (listing examples from Klays massage) and what might be the best deal if I just want to sleep with hot masseuses?[/QUOTE]Yes, this is the most highly reviewed place.
[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/nuru-spa-lisboa/[/URL]
They provide their address. They appear to have WhatsApp. Hopefully you can contact them and ask any questions you might have. The most important of which is whether it is okay to just arrive and knock, or whether you need to make an appointment.
Previous posters have indicated that requesting the Relaxing Massage is a good code word to let them know you want sex. The reviews indicate that a significant number of ladies who work at this facility offer CFS, BBBJ, CIM and covered anal sex. So you should be able to get what you want, even if that is an erotic handjob.
One of your posts says you are an American. So ideally the Birds and Bees do not need to be explained to you. Whenever a website like this is posted, someone finds a notation on the website that says No Sex.
Portugal certainly has far better laws than the USA, but even in Portugal, they can't have a published address, fixed location facility advertising the exchange of sex for money. Many posters on ISG cannot function outside of a country allowing Pussy for Sale flashing neon signs. So you have to look for websites advertising Tantra, Nuru, Erotic, Fetish, etc. As massages. Of course these are naughty massage parlors. Forrest Gump could figure that out. But keep in mind when communicating with places like this that you shouldn't directly ask about sex. Just ask for the Relaxation Massage. Fortunately, it isn't like USA Massage parlors where you need to bring lots of tip money and negotiate for additional services.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2704423]We were actually discussing Pamela Hippolito a couple of weeks ago -- Kama says to skip her. Actually, Kama seems to share your preferences to a large extent. Perhaps he will make some suggestions.
Kelly Fontini (aka Lara Chavez) is regarded as a veteran and an average, satisfactory escort. My take is she charges a fair price and delivers a fair service, but is nothing spectacular.
Local reviews of Rafaela Albuquerque and Patricia Telles are mixed. Some loved those ladies, some hated them and some gave them average marks. Telles has a long track record, going back 5 years.
I don't recall reading about the others.
One lady who might be your type and I have had my eye on is Beatriz Resende. The locals give her high marks.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Beatriz-Resende-4936.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you so much! I will also check out Beatriz. I'll report back if I end up seeing her as well!
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2704423]One lady who might be your type and I have had my eye on is Beatriz Resende. The locals give her high marks.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Beatriz-Resende-4936.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Beatriz is a peculiar kind of lady. She is a petite, shapely woman in her 40's, very kind, very welcoming, but very slow and endlessly talkative as if, somehow, her mind is not quite there and she is under the influence of something. Whatever that might (or might not) be. As for sex - BBBJ, FS, DATY -, it's on that very same wavelength. Sometimes it can be quite enjoyable to travel in that slo-mo erotic machine, others you wish she'd be a bit more intense.
As I said, a peculiar case.
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[QUOTE=MiamiHeat2020;2704481]Thank you! I appreciate it and will be checking to those suggested. Other than incalls I was wondering about massages as well. I have gone through the massage parlor websites but there are so many different massages I can't tell which ones will mean full service? Any breakdown of what it means to get a relaxation, Thai, tantric, nuru, etc (listing examples from Klays massage) and what might be the best deal if I just want to sleep with hot masseuses?[/QUOTE]To elaborate on what Mongerer wrote and my own comment that while prostitution is basically legal in Portugal, profiting from it is not which has led to various loopholes and fictions.
Two spas that I mentioned recently are Delirium and Klass. Klass is a brothel that does massages. Delirium is, by all reports, a nuru spa that doesn't offer FS, just lingam or HJ. The quality of the body to body "show" is undoubtedly higher at Delirium, but it seems to be house policy to mean it when they say "no sex. " At Klass, that is just a fiction. When you get there, you can clarify that in person.
And some places are in between, where the individual massagista decides.
The only thing you can do is try to do your homework or be willing to take chances. When dealing with spas, asking for the relaxing massage is sufficient, as Mongerer wrote. However make sure the massagista is "natural" (nude) -- some charge a little extra for that. Otherwise, it's in lingerie. The upmarket parts of the spa menu rarely add much value.
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First trip. One visit to review (Mia)
Hi, I know this is my first post here but this board was very helpful to me in my recent trip so I wanted to give a review of someone I saw discussed here. Mia Tavares.
First, some background to give you context as to how to consider my review as I am not the "typical" client. I am a married female, early 40's but usually pegged for a few years younger, no kids, been with husband since high school (monogamous). Maybe 6-7 years ago, we decided to try something fun and engaged a legal pro in Nevada at one of the brothels for a threesome (which BTW was $1600/ HR just for reference! Discovered girls don't really do it for me but I like showing hubs a joint good time, so in the last couple years we have done similar "him focused" dates in Vancouver, Toronto, Amsterdam and Spain. Maybe 7-8 total experiences, always with a higher end agency and not looking for "inexpensive" - more looking for absolute stunners who are fun.
This was our first trip to Lisbon and I wasn't finding what I was looking for but came across this board and found Escort Privada and some of the other resources. I had seen someone post a review of Mia that was "couples" based and sounded good plus she had nice pics and showed available when we were looking. This was my first time using WhatsApp and reaching out directly. Communication was very. Brief. Just yes, no, room #, etc. Guess I am not used to that usually dealing with an agency but it was ok. I explained that I knew I would pay the couples rate ($250/ HR) but wanted her to focus on him vs me. Her age there showed 18 (which is younger than we would normally go for) but I figured she would actually be older based on what I saw in general. I am bad at guessing ages but I'the say maybe 23-24? She barely spoke (more on that in a minute) but she did mention "when I used to be married.".
Anyway, I think the pics shown are her but very heavily staged and Photoshopped. I know that is common but she has a lot of tattoos (not particularly great ones) and honestly looked more like a small town bar chick than anything else. Teeth had some issues (which my husband is not a fan of), hair was kind of ratty, and everything was just a little. Rougher. Than our normal type. But she was thin and not unattractive, just bottom of what we have seen in person.
But that's where the positives end. She smelled of smoke and made us uncomfortable right from the start. She said she was nervous, showered for a long time and then just sat on the bed and said "now what?" (Her English was fine. She just was not going to take charge at all). I said we could start with some oral on husband and she was barely giving any effort. He was not getting erect (which is not a problem he EVER has) but she was so unenthusiastic. I got him going a little and he tried to move to doggie with her (after condom) and she just kind of sat there head down. No help, movement, anything. This just wasn't working. He pulled out and shook his head to me and I whispered to see if he wanted me to finish it up. I finished him off in my mouth while she just laid there and as soon as he was done, she jumped up and said "I can leave now?" and we just sent her away. Basically I paid $250 to give my husband a blow job with someone else in the room for like 30 min. She barely spoke except to say when she was married she was like me. Whatever that means.
Maybe your experiences would be better. Just men directly. But she did advertise couples and I was trying to make it easy on her but I would not recommend.
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[QUOTE=VincentVegas22;2704931]Hi, I know this is my first post here but this board was very helpful to me in my recent trip so I wanted to give a review of someone I saw discussed here. Mia Tavares.[/QUOTE]I am sorry it turned out badly for you. Most of us have been there.
I have a rule: when I don't have the time or resources to take chances, I do not take chances. If I am on a short visit and can only see one or two ladies, I stick with only those I know or those who with a strong reputation.
When I have the ability to wash a bad experience out of my mouth, then I take a chance or two.
Most escorts Photoshop out their body art. It's identifying. It does little good to not show your face and then leave a signature tat on your wrist there for everyone to see. Some wear wigs at their photoshoots. And taking 5 years off an age statement is pretty normal too.
My advice is to focus less on the couples aspect and more on the general quality. If the lady doesn't want to do a couple, she will say so, and a good lady will generally do a good couples service if willing.
Note to self: never call Mia Tavares. She sounds like Monica Melo meets Vera Guerra.
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Yeah, I get the Photoshop / pics but this was just way farther off than any of our past experiences in terms of pics vs real. LOL. And one bad visit didn't make or break our trip. We were laughing later about how bad it was and then reminisced about some better times and had fun w / each other.
Just wanted to help contribute back since I read a lot of your research! Thank you!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2704950]I am sorry it turned out badly for you. Most of us have been there.
I have a rule: when I don't have the time or resources to take chances, I do not take chances. If I am on a short visit and can only see one or two ladies, I stick with only those I know or those who with a strong reputation.
When I have the ability to wash a bad experience out of my mouth, then I take a chance or two.
Most escorts Photoshop out their body art. It's identifying. It does little good to not show your face and then leave a signature tat on your wrist there for everyone to see. Some wear wigs at their photoshoots. And taking 5 years off an age statement is pretty normal too.
My advice is to focus less on the couples aspect and more on the general quality. If the lady doesn't want to do a couple, she will say so, and a good lady will generally do a good couples service if willing.
Note to self: never call Mia Tavares. She sounds like Monica Melo meets Vera Guerra.[/QUOTE]
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Yes, my apologies for bringing over the Eurogirlescorts review. Note to myself not to do that in the future since there is no quality control.
[QUOTE=VincentVegas22;2704931]Hi, I know this is my first post here but this board was very helpful to me in my recent trip so I wanted to give a review of someone I saw discussed here. Mia Tavares.
First, some background to give you context as to how to consider my review as I am not the "typical" client. I am a married female, early 40's but usually pegged for a few years younger, no kids, been with husband since high school (monogamous). Maybe 6-7 years ago, we decided to try something fun and engaged a legal pro in Nevada at one of the brothels for a threesome (which BTW was $1600/ HR just for reference! Discovered girls don't really do it for me but I like showing hubs a joint good time, so in the last couple years we have done similar "him focused" dates in Vancouver, Toronto, Amsterdam and Spain. Maybe 7-8 total experiences, always with a higher end agency and not looking for "inexpensive" - more looking for absolute stunners who are fun.
This was our first trip to Lisbon and I wasn't finding what I was looking for but came across this board and found Escort Privada and some of the other resources. I had seen someone post a review of Mia that was "couples" based and sounded good plus she had nice pics and showed available when we were looking. This was my first time using WhatsApp and reaching out directly. Communication was very. Brief. Just yes, no, room #, etc. Guess I am not used to that usually dealing with an agency but it was ok. I explained that I knew I would pay the couples rate ($250/ HR) but wanted her to focus on him vs me. Her age there showed 18 (which is younger than we would normally go for) but I figured she would actually be older based on what I saw in general. I am bad at guessing ages but I'the say maybe 23-24? She barely spoke (more on that in a minute) but she did mention "when I used to be married."...[/QUOTE]
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Thank you ExExpatriate and Mongerer88
You've both be been very helpful. I think I'm all set for Lisbon, assuming I can get this trip to happen, and will report back when I have those experiences under my belt.
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Sorry to Hear That
[QUOTE=VincentVegas22;2704931]First, some background to give you context as to how to consider my review as I am not the "typical" client. I am a married female, early 40's but usually pegged for a few years younger, no kids, been with husband since high school (monogamous)[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about your poor experience in Lisbon. I think you're the first client I've seen on any monger forum who has identified themselves as a woman. Welcome!
I typically monger in Houston and places outside the United States. I've never done it as a couple, but I can recall a handful of reviews from those who have done so. Maybe you can search for those reviews and base your travel plans accordingly?
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Two ladies, same name
Here is an interesting wrinkle, and since the lady in question was asked about recently.
This is Francine #1.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1258[/URL]
She has three local reviews marking her 6, 7 and 8, at 150/ HR incall. That Francine was asked about several days ago.
This is Francine #2, who popped up on Apartadox yesterday.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Francine-6707.html[/URL]
Different age, height and phone number. One is showing her face and the other is not. So not the same girl. Lady #2 is an unknown.
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Raquel Santiago is back
Another great lady from before the pandemic has returned, Raquel Santiago.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=711[/URL]
Raquel was highly esteemed; my memory of her local reviews placed her at about 8 out of 10. I have been with her, and my opinion is that she is gorgeous in that Brasilian way, friendly, and an above average (but not stellar) lay. My guess is she should be right around 30 now.
If your type includes petite, big and well-done implants and long dark hair, I strongly recommend her.
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Taking a moment to write about a recent experience with Rebeca Ferrari - [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rebeca-Ferrari-5566.html[/URL] - Miles out in the suburbs in the Linda the Sintra but I think she also works out of Cascais some days so sharing anyway. A very odd experience, the main issue being she was clearly drunk. The smell was very noticable and a big turn off. I was thinking to back out but she bent over seductively and showed me the butt plug she had in and I guess I went along with it. It was probably the wildest hour of PSE sex in my life which included (at her suggestion), fucking on her sofa, bed, kitchen table, floor, in every position imaginable, sometimes pussy, sometimes ass (I'm not even a fan of anal but she seemed so into it that I went along). Finally she led me into to some grubby storage room full of junk (I would have ran a mile if this had been the first thing I saw but by this point I was past caring). At one point she answered the phone while giving me oral and made plans with another guy while I fucked her tits. Unbelievably rude but somehow the audacity of it seemed hot to me. I came in her mouth in the storage room. She playfully kept sucking and giggled. An image that will live long in the memory but I don't think I would go back on reflection. Being drunk early afternoon I think it likely that she has a problem and I felt uncomfortable with it afterwards.
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One Night in Lisbon
Not exactly night, but what a fun time. Won't go into too much detail, but here goes:
I had a dream that I went to Lisbon on my way back the USA last week.
In the dream, I went to Delirio Spa and saw Dafne. First of all, if you want a specific girl, insist on setting a time and date with her. I initially wanted to see Yasmin, but ran into that problem. They showed me the other girls and I got a great vibe from Dafne and went with her (versus waiting). Dafne is gorgeous and has great energy. Won't go into too much detail (you can PM me if you want to know more, FYI I'm only on every few days), but suffice it to say I enjoyed it and would repeat even though what was spent (7) was more for what I normally get.
[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/dafne-nacionalidade-brasileira/[/URL]
Went home and rested (it was quite the session) and then had set up time with Anair. Went to her incall location and she is amazingly beautiful. Tiny, smooth skin, love the tattoos and piercings (which are totally my thing). Her attitude is engrossing. Ended up spending an hour and a half with her (8, I know expensive, but I was in paradise). No feeling of being rushed. Would definitely repeat.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/anair/183961/?list=l3btk5[/URL]
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No need for code. What you did is legal where you did it.
Glad you liked Eller. She has a strong reputation.
About Delirium Spa: everything heard so far is that it is HJ only. Was that your experience?
[QUOTE=ZoinksJax;2708358]Not exactly night, but what a fun time. Won't go into too much detail, but here goes:
I had a dream that I went to Lisbon on my way back the USA last week.
In the dream, I went to Delirio Spa and saw Dafne. First of all, if you want a specific girl, insist on setting a time and date with her. I initially wanted to see Yasmin, but ran into that problem. They showed me the other girls and I got a great vibe from Dafne and went with her (versus waiting). Dafne is gorgeous and has great energy. Won't go into too much detail (you can PM me if you want to know more, FYI I'm only on every few days), but suffice it to say I enjoyed it and would repeat even though what was spent (7) was more for what I normally get.
[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/massagista/dafne-nacionalidade-brasileira/[/URL]
Went home and rested (it was quite the session) and then had set up time with Anair. Went to her incall location and she is amazingly beautiful. Tiny, smooth skin, love the tattoos and piercings (which are totally my thing). Her attitude is engrossing. Ended up spending an hour and a half with her (8, I know expensive, but I was in paradise). No feeling of being rushed. Would definitely repeat.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/anair/183961/?list=l3btk5[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Worth noting that Julia Nobrega received an unfavorable review yesterday on the local board from a guy who had given Maria Conceição and Soraia Albuquerque 8's and 9's out of 10, with his chief complaint being that Julia now looks to be in her mid to late 30's and has put on some weight compared to the pictures. So customers more interested in ladies in the 18-29 year old range might want to make note of this. The reviewer below had this same issue.
[QUOTE=DysonAlberta;2654615]Trip Report.
Tried 2 Threesomes. Both failed as I couldn't get hard enough (was exhausted due to travels). But still felt its worth writing this based on the experience I had as the information may come in handy for someone else.
All the girls were from Escort Privada. No middleman, you directly use the number listed for each girl and contact her to setup things. Luckily most girls I choose spoke English (seems most people in Portugal speak decently good English compared to a lot of other countries). I still send my messages in Portuguese by translating them from English using Google Translate and then later on ask if they speak English.
1. Soraia Alburquerque and Andreia Martins (300 for 1 h).
I reached out to Soraia and wrote my first message in Portuguese but she replied back in English (she must have picked on imperfect translation). The communication was smooth from there on all in English. Someone had said good things about her here hence I choose her. She gave me names of few other girls she likes doing duo's with among which I asked who's her favorite and she mentioned it's Andreia. So booked a threesome with them both and they arrived 5 minutes early...[/QUOTE]
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Sheila at Paradise Spa
Has anyone had any experiences with Sheila at Paradise Spa? I'm visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, and I find her very hot. What was the damage, if you did see her? Is this place generally a good time?
[URL]https://lisbon-massage.com/sheila-en/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=FlyPanAm;2710210]Has anyone had any experiences with Sheila at Paradise Spa? I'm visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, and I find her very hot. What was the damage, if you did see her? Is this place generally a good time?
[URL]https://lisbon-massage.com/sheila-en/[/URL][/QUOTE]I do not see a review of Sheila on the local board, but here is a translated review of Paula, and the place is part of a group that seems to have some standardization. So it would be logical that Sheila's sessions might be similar. The reviewer was experienced, but please note that he paid 200 euros for a sixty minute erotic massage where he came at the end, but did not get full service or oral sex. That is a much higher price than mist guys are paying for BBBJ, CIM and CFS from Lisbon's highest rated escorts, most all of whom will do erotic massages as part of the session. Anyway, here is Paula's of Lisbon-Massage (Paradise Spa) review:
"Dear Confrades,
This time here's my TD for this massage parlor in Lisbon:
Rating: Very Positive.
Location: Near Saldanha.
Name: Paula.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Face: Provocative with a girl next door.
Body: in the photos she looks taller, shorter but with everything in place.
Height: 1. 50's maybe.
Chest: small but delicious.
Body: very good.
General appearance: Too many tattoos.
Location: SPA but not very busy.
Parking: Paying.
Kisses: I didn't try, I preferred eroticism.
Vaginal: I don't know.
Oral: I don't know.
Anal: I don't know.
Attitude: Friendly and conversational, although it is noted that it lacks intellectual content and is still very girly.
Range: 200€.
I had already had my eye on this Spa, I was in a mood in Jeremias's healing mode for something erotic other than that I don't give a damn and I decided to go there to see if it was provoked by stimuli. I make the appointment and off I go.
The Spa is really one of the best in Lisbon, it's new, it has top therapists, but curiously and once again it's the woman at the reception who leaves us at 1000, I don't understand if these houses do it on purpose for a guy to get excited right at the entrance, if they do it for the type: you wanted but you don't have. Anyway!
The receptionist was a beautiful Portuguese woman, blonde, tall and with an intellect to wake a dead man. I thought, well, it starts well here. Next, choose the type of massage with water or tea offered while you choose. After that, the girls are introduced, all of them top, but this one Paula got me in love with her naughty look.
I chose a 1 H geminus naturist massage because I love the mutual touch of the therapist. I am then directed to a private bathroom to take a shower and really with all the top conditions, I knock on the door and the girl appears, already semi ready.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2708441]No need for code. What you did is legal where you did it.
Glad you liked Eller. She has a strong reputation.
About Delirium Spa: everything heard so far is that it is HJ only. Was that your experience?[/QUOTE]Yes. At least from my experience it is HJ, though I was able to do some DATY which I really enjoyed.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2710385]I do not see a review of Sheila on the local board, but here is a translated review of Paula, and the place is part of a group that seems to have some standardization. So it would be logical that Sheila's sessions might be similar. The reviewer was experienced, but please note that he paid 200 euros for a sixty minute erotic massage where he came at the end, but did not get full service or oral sex. That is a much higher price than mist guys are paying for BBBJ, CIM and CFS from Lisbon's highest rated escorts, most all of whom will do erotic massages as part of the session. Anyway, here is Paula's of Lisbon-Massage (Paradise Spa) review:.[/QUOTE]Thank you. I suppose I should just browse this thread for recommendations on providers, yeah?
Also, a bit unrelated, but -- seeing a provider aside -- how many euros should I bring for a week in Lisbon if I want to do sight seeing and the like?
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[QUOTE=FlyPanAm;2711368]Thank you. I suppose I should just browse this thread for recommendations on providers, yeah?
Also, a bit unrelated, but -- seeing a provider aside -- how many euros should I bring for a week in Lisbon if I want to do sight seeing and the like?[/QUOTE]Depends on what you want to do, and how far you travel, although places like Sintra and the beaches west of Sintra are really worth the trip even if it costs a few bucks.
Pound for pound, I find Lisbon less expensive than Madrid or Barcelona, especially given that Uber is an option. I like Portuguese food better than Spanish food, with the caveat that they often serve fish with the bones in it. So you need to remember to eat slowly and carefully, and to not take big bites. A person is almost never served a full fish with the bones still in it in the USA.
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[QUOTE=FlyPanAm;2711368]Thank you. I suppose I should just browse this thread for recommendations on providers, yeah?
Also, a bit unrelated, but -- seeing a provider aside -- how many euros should I bring for a week in Lisbon if I want to do sight seeing and the like?[/QUOTE]That depends on what your agenda is and how expensive your tastes are.
A piece of advice I will repeat for you: regular multibanco / ATM machines have a hard limit of 200 euros per day for foreign cards. Seeing as how the going rate for it ncall and EP outcall is hovering between 120 and 150 HR, you should either exchange some cash on arrival to round your budget out or plan how you use your actual cash carefully.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2711752]That depends on what your agenda is and how expensive your tastes are.
A piece of advice I will repeat for you: regular multibanco / ATM machines have a hard limit of 200 euros per day for foreign cards. Seeing as how the going rate for it ncall and EP outcall is hovering between 120 and 150 HR, you should either exchange some cash on arrival to round your budget out or plan how you use your actual cash carefully.[/QUOTE]One thing that was really helpful with the ATMs for me was to reject the conversion. You have to select that option 2 or 3 times, but it was often the difference between $240 and $210 for every 200 euros I pulled out.
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ATM Limit
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2711752]That depends on what your agenda is and how expensive your tastes are.
A piece of advice I will repeat for you: regular multibanco / ATM machines have a hard limit of 200 euros per day for foreign cards. Seeing as how the going rate for it ncall and EP outcall is hovering between 120 and 150 HR, you should either exchange some cash on arrival to round your budget out or plan how you use your actual cash carefully.[/QUOTE]The limit is €200 per withdrawal, but you can withdraw a total of €400 per day, at least that have been my experience with foreigner cards from multiple countries.
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[QUOTE=ArthurBishop;2712086]The limit is 200 per withdrawal, but you can withdraw a total of 400 per day, at least that have been my experience with foreigner cards from multiple countries.[/QUOTE]I have been told that. I have also been told you can get around the limit by doing withdrawals in a hurry from neighboring mulitbancos.
Over the course of a decade and a half, neither has EVER been true for me. 200 per day is what a not European, not a Portuguese can count on. And when your time matters ("I wish I had an extra 60 euros so I could see her on my last day!"), reliable counts more than stuff that may or may not apply.
So long as I am here, I have also found that in terms of fees, exchange rates and all that, using a cambio vs. a multibanco doesn't really start to matter until you reach over a thousand. The difference is negligible whenever I sit down, do the math and compare in instances I have done both during the same trip.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2712302]I have been told that. I have also been told you can get around the limit by doing withdrawals in a hurry from neighboring mulitbancos.
Over the course of a decade and a half, neither has EVER been true for me. 200 per day is what a not European, not a Portuguese can count on. And when your time matters ("I wish I had an extra 60 euros so I could see her on my last day!"), reliable counts more than stuff that may or may not apply.
So long as I am here, I have also found that in terms of fees, exchange rates and all that, using a cambio vs. a multibanco doesn't really start to matter until you reach over a thousand. The difference is negligible whenever I sit down, do the math and compare in instances I have done both during the same trip.[/QUOTE]Like I said, my actual experience in Portugal has been that I can withdraw €200 in each transaction up to €400 per day. I have done it back to back, in the same ATM, but I have also withdrawn €200 at midday and then €200 during the rest of the day. No tricks, no running around or looking for any specific ATM or bank. Once I reach the limit of €400 per day, then I have to wait until the next day to withdraw again the same amount. Perhaps, it is related to the banks that I work with, but I have used debit cards from banks located in different continents and I was always able to withdraw up to €400 per day.
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Lisbon. First impressions
So hats off to ExExpatriat who has made many great recommendations. Just want to contribute back to this thread, arrived in Lisbon today. Aeroporto Humberto Delgado is a fucking nightmare but once you get through what was designed for a small city but has one of the heaviest traffic in the world, things start to look up. Scoped out Apartdado X and Escort Privida before I arrived. Was chatting with a Paula (can't remember her last name but funny how the escorts here use two fake names, a first and last) but her number has been taken over by Lila Costa. Suspect the agency issues cells and numbers to their girls who rotate in and out. Lila is nice but not exactly my type, I like them tall, skinny with big natural tits, yes, yes, I know, skinny girls don't usually have big tits but the incongruity is what turns me on.
Anyway, didn't really find any girl that first my exact type and was horny as hell so decided to take a chance on Mariana Amaral [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mariana-amaral/[/URL], of course not her real names. It's obvious she's enhanced in photos but I didn't care at this point, the lips and tats looked good and decided to text. Set up was easy and smooth, texted at 16:30 and got a response almost immediately, set up for 19:00. Asks for my room number (was a little apprehensive) but worried unnecessarily. She texts when she arrives and asks if okay to come up. Open the door when she knocks and was pleasantly surprised to find a young classic beauty, high cheekbones, luscious lips (not sure if enhanced) a cross between young Sophia Loren and Dyan Cannon. She's tall, statuesque and skinny. Said she half Australian and Portuguese, speaks near perfect English, nice skin, smelled nice and totally shaved smooth. We chat a bit to break the ice. Turns out her ex-boyfriend was a millionaire but they broke up a few months ago and she's doing this as a stopgap until she figures it out. He was older and could not keep with with her sexual appetite. So evidently caught her in her 3rd day at this and was probably John #5. We naturally click as we probably share a bit in common due to our age. Asked but she demurred, I'd guess early 40's, very, very slight skin between belly and pubes but only visible in certain positions (when she's on all 4's) but really she in excellent shape. We start with DATY, I ask her not to fake it and she didn't but could not bring her off, probably newness had something to do with it for both of use. She then gives me an excellent BBBJ. I said let's fuck but she was firm on a cover. Apologized profusely and said she hate condoms too but can afford to catch anything and wants covers for work. I suspect was you become a regular, things might open up. I asked for anal sex and although she does state that for an upcharge, she said not today. Didn't give a reason but I understand, some days one just cannot manage it for whatever reason. While she was giving me a BBBJ, I had my fingers in her and boy was she wet, Think DATY got her going, just not to the finish line. I put only hat and went in. Tried several positions but the damn condom as not doing it for me. She came twice while I was fucking her and I could feel her squeezing and pulsating on my cock, and she said as much. She finally finishes me off in her mouth, very good hand and lip technique. We chatted a bit more while cleaning up (love those bidets but where the fuck is shampoo and conditioner! Gave her my direct number if she wanted to call me off the books but I think she's still pretty much by the book for now. Damage ended up being 150 Euro, a steal for someone who could easily charge 4 times than much in the US. I am considering calling her again while I'm here, can't go wrong for the price but may sample one of the other delectable beauties just for variety.
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EP phone numbers
Yes, EP owns those phone numbers, so they are often recycled when a lady retires.
Most let the agency take calls and messages, and set up their appointments. Some prefer to do this themselves. But the number belongs to the agency and they are aware of everything.
Also, whenever an EP girl is featured on Apartadox, that is them paying for an ad push. The agency does the basic ads, but whether or not to get featured is up to the individual.
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The Multibanco
So here is the thing.
I am not saying the 400 e limit can't be done. I know it works for locals. I also know it is tricky for at least some of them, or else they wouldn't talk about needing two separate ATMs right next to each other. I also know it has never, ever worked in my case.
When you are offering advice to someone who may only be in Lisbon for 2 days, the difference between being able to pull 400 vs 800 total is huge. And if they plan on the latter because of something that absolutely has never worked for my own experience, then they've been f*cked.
Knowing it might be a problem matters. They won't find out until they get there and see for themselves.
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New Lisbon Escort Site
Hey all,
I'm not 100% sure this is the right place for this thread so please forgive me if it's not.
I'm a Portuguese whos mostly been watching this and other forums (I'm an active member of gp-pt) to always help me choose my next escort adventure.
For some time now I've been thinking, and in the meantime did, about starting a new Lisbon escort site / agency. I'm a regular with EP but in some aspects I feel like I could provide a better service for the client, being that I've been one for 5 years now.
I created a similar post on gp-pt, I'd like to know what makes you guys come back to the same agency / lady and what doesn't.
My mindset is quality above quantity and sometimes I have disagreements on this with some of my fellow countryman in the other forum but I already know that, in general, here you have a slightly different opinion.
I'm very curious about opinions on this topic from an international client point of view.
If you've read this far I appreciate your patience and will ask to to just answer my following questions, as best as you can:
- Do you usually prefer independent girls over agencies? If so, why?
- Do you value more a good-enough but cheap service or a great but expensive one?
- What are the most common issues you've faced in your adventures in Lisbon? Bad communication? Misleading ads?
- Are there any particular services you'd like to try but neither independent girls nor agencies provide that? This can be true for Lisbon / Portugal in particular or even a service you've never seen anywhere else.
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Foreigner friendly?
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2703541]Since this has come up recently, I want to add some recent local review board info about Klass Massage. This is a well-established knocking shop near Campo Pequeno. Two of their ladies, Vitoria and Melissa, recently got middling, satisfactory grades. 7 out of 10.
The main thing to note is the prices are still 60 e for 1/2 hour and 100 e for 1 hour.
This is a place where body to body massage ending in FS is standard.
I am linking to their own website, but all the ladies advertise on docemassagem, so those pics are verified.
[URL]http://www.klass-massage.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow. Do you know if they speak English there? Does the price include the FS, or is that an extra tip?
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I think EP became popular among tourists for three reasons.
The confidence that a substitution will be available if the preferred lady ends up not being available.
The ability to converse entirely in English, and the theoretical availability of relatively younger women.
Now compared to some of Lisbon's best reviewed independents like Carolina Belmont, Eva Sanchez, Patricia Navarro, Ines, and Cleo, some of those supposed advantages disappear, and in fact top independents might even be more dependable.
Portuguese women age well, but all of those independent ladies are in their 30's.
There is tremendous demand worldwide for 18-25 year old hotties. And there is a perception that they tend to join agencies since they don't want to handle administrative tasks or adhere to a precise schedule.
Where EP does itself no favors is its lack of updating the ages and pictures.
The dilemma will always be this. Experienced women in their 30's and 40's are a lot better at sex than women in the 18-29 year old range, but a tremendous number of Johns are most attracted to the younger ladies. So the never ending search for them is the young looking lady who knows how to fuck, and is consistent and dependable. Not sure any agency will be able to provide that, but good luck to you if you can.
Most sex capitals, including London and Montreal, have ladies openly advertising fetishes, primarily giving and taking spankings. You don't see that as much in Lisbon ads as you do in ads for London, Montreal, Sydney, Madrid, etc. I suspect there is plenty of demand, so that might be something to consider.
[QUOTE=Tugaralho;2713426]Hey all,
I'm not 100% sure this is the right place for this thread so please forgive me if it's not.
I'm a Portuguese whos mostly been watching this and other forums (I'm an active member of gp-pt) to always help me choose my next escort adventure.
For some time now I've been thinking, and in the meantime did, about starting a new Lisbon escort site / agency. I'm a regular with EP but in some aspects I feel like I could provide a better service for the client, being that I've been one for 5 years now.
I created a similar post on gp-pt, I'd like to know what makes you guys come back to the same agency / lady and what doesn't..[/QUOTE]
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Klass
[QUOTE=FlyPanAm;2713672]Wow. Do you know if they speak English there? Does the price include the FS, or is that an extra tip?[/QUOTE]I was relating local reviews. The rate quoted is inclusive. A little over a year ago, 100-120/ h was the going rate for FS incall in Lisbon. I am sure someone there speaks English, but it wasn't me and I don't know those particular ladies.
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Lisbon. Second impressions
Mariana Amaral was not available later that week, I think she's new and has been getting a lot of client calls, she said she was tired from the first few days of work where she saw at least 2-4 clients each day, which is pretty overwhelming for someone new to the business. So I thought I'd try someone new, Valeria Diaz [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valeria-diaz/.[/URL] While Mariana is tall, she's at least 5'10" in heels, Valeria is much more petite although she looks taller and bigger in her photos. In the US, she's what we call a spinner. She arrives exactly on time and she looks exactly like her photos. These are two distinguishing characteristics I love about the girls in Lisbon, they arrive on time and look exactly as her pictures. Her English is not as good as Mariana's but communication was easy and we really clicked. She has a very bubbly personality, high energy and super great attitude. Her schedule is more restricted as she has a regular job and young kids, so generally 6-9 pm, which was a little hard for me to accommodate with business dinners but I made it work. Her breasts and nipples are exactly as you see them and all natural. I LOVE her body type, small petite, skinny with big tits and huge nipples. She loves to give head. I mean she was on her knees sucking me for a very nice prelude before we headed to bed and again after we cleaned up and she was on the way out the door She also has a very nice tight cooch despite 2 kids and she's wild in bed. Sex was really explosive. I think we laid coupled together with me inside her for a good 15 minutes after we both came. I'm pretty sure she came twice when we were fucking as I could feel her pulsating on my dick when I was inside her. Her attitude was also incredible but maybe because we clicked. She ended up spending almost 2 hours although I only paid for an hour, just talking and laying next to each other. And although I offered to pay her at the beginning of the session, she declined and said we could do this after. I was basically late for my business dinner and she would probably have stayed longer if I hadn't had the stupid dinner to go to.
I really couldn't get enough of her and scheduled her again for the last night I was in town but due to her restricted schedule, had to get a 9 pm slot due business dinner commitments. Of course in Lisbon, nothing is on time and dinner stretched into 10 pm before I could get away, by then it was too late for her. Guys, you got to go see her. Maybe she might not be as exuberant with you as me unless you click, but I cannot imagine she treats her other clients too differently. Her reviews on another site ([URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/valeria-diaz/367059/?_fid=73ra[/URL]) are excellent and I tried to leave one for her there but it hasn't been posted. I'm thinking of flying her to the US for a long weekend!
Overall, incredibly impressed with the quality of the women in Lisbon. I tend too pick the slight older ones (30-40 yrs) as I prefer the maturity but I think there are a ton of younger ones available. Also, you can't beat the prices here. These girls could easily make four times as much in the US. They are hot, punctual, have a great attitude and no drama. Not sure what else you could ask for except BBFS which is uncommon, I think you need to develop a long term relationship for that.
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Sad Old Guy!
Double high five for you, guy!
Valeria Diaz was actually on my "take a chance" list the last time I had time and felt able to do that. She wasn't available. I wound up with the loathsome Monica Melo instead (I suspect she changed her name to Mafalda Melo -- that girl looks a lot like her, but that could be a coincidence).
So many thanks on breaking so much new ground!
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First time on this thread
Please forgive if it has been discussed recently. My question regards best location for hotels generally in Lisbon. Where does most of the talent come from? Are Airbnb's in Lisbon generally ok with the hobby? Any hotels charge "guest fees" for outcalls or for one I may meet out and about? I will continue to research thanks in advance.
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Valeria Diaz
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2714678]Double high five for you, guy!
Valeria Diaz was actually on my "take a chance" list the last time I had time and felt able to do that. She wasn't available. I wound up with the loathsome Monica Melo instead (I suspect she changed her name to Mafalda Melo -- that girl looks a lot like her, but that could be a coincidence).
So many thanks on breaking so much new ground![/QUOTE]As I mentioned, Valeria has a regular 9-5 job in addition to doing this on the side. She also has two young kids (although it does not show on her body and she's tight as hell) so her schedule right now is only 6-9 pm. She might be able to do 9-10 pm but it is tough for her. She is really worth it and I'd highly recommend moving your schedule around to see her.
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Valeria Diaz
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2714678]Double high five for you, guy!
Valeria Diaz was actually on my "take a chance" list the last time I had time and felt able to do that. She wasn't available. I wound up with the loathsome Monica Melo instead (I suspect she changed her name to Mafalda Melo -- that girl looks a lot like her, but that could be a coincidence).
So many thanks on breaking so much new ground![/QUOTE]P.S. Her availability on weekends is better and much more flexible.
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[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715512]Please forgive if it has been discussed recently. My question regards best location for hotels generally in Lisbon. Where does most of the talent come from? Are Airbnb's in Lisbon generally ok with the hobby? Any hotels charge "guest fees" for outcalls or for one I may meet out and about? I will continue to research thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]The only report ever of a hotel problem was when a poster who admitted he was drunk tries to bring an equally drunk Hooker through the lobby late at night.
What you need to understand is that Lisbon does not have prostitution as far as hotels and apartments are concerned. And few hotels even have doormen. The sex worker either comes up to your room and knocks, or if an elevator keycard is required, you just meet her in the lobby and head up the elevator together. I did this at midnight once at the Clarion right in front of the tiny lobby and truly no one cares.
Portugal and Spain are simply nothing like South America in this regard. They have a common language with South America and there are some good South American restaurants, but your hotel room in Iberia is your hotel room. You are allowed to have unregistered guests, and there is zero assumption that any lady is a sex worker.
I asked EP for a friend who stays in Airbnb's if they have had problems with Airbnb's and they said no, there have been no problems. Of course the Airbnb guest might get a bad internal Airbnb review if the room is in the lessor's house and a hot young girl comes over for an hour or so, showering twice. Or the lessor might put her on his to-see list.
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[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715512]Please forgive if it has been discussed recently. My question regards best location for hotels generally in Lisbon. Where does most of the talent come from? Are Airbnb's in Lisbon generally ok with the hobby? Any hotels charge "guest fees" for outcalls or for one I may meet out and about? I will continue to research thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]You should have no problems with most hotels with having a lady visit you on outcall. The only snag you should encounter is with key card secured elevators. The hotels generally don't care about it.
Insofar as Air BnBs, I have never had a lady refuse to go to one, but that doesn't mean it may not be an issue for a particular lady. The main issue there seems to be helping them find it or parking in the area.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2715564]The only report ever of a hotel problem was when a poster who admitted he was drunk tries to bring an equally drunk Hooker through the lobby late at night.
What you need to understand is that Lisbon does not have prostitution as far as hotels and apartments are concerned. And few hotels even have doormen. The sex worker either comes up to your room and knocks, or if an elevator keycard is required, you just meet her in the lobby and head up the elevator together. I did this at midnight once at the Clarion right in front of the tiny lobby and truly no one cares.
Portugal and Spain are simply nothing like South America in this regard. They have a common language with South America and there are some good South American restaurants, but your hotel room in Iberia is your hotel room. You are allowed to have unregistered guests, and there is zero assumption that any lady is a sex worker.
I asked EP for a friend who stays in Airbnb's if they have had problems with Airbnb's and they said no, there have been no problems. Of course the Airbnb guest might get a bad internal Airbnb review if the room is in the lessor's house and a hot young girl comes over for an hour or so, showering twice. Or the lessor might put her on his to-see list.[/QUOTE]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!
Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?
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[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715860]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!
Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?[/QUOTE]I usually stay using loyalty in the western chain hotels which are mostly on a long, boring stretch of road that is just a little too far to walk to touristy areas. There are some Holiday Inns that are closer to tourist attractions and they are nicer than the typical USA Holiday Inns. A few times I have stayed in "local Portuguese" hotels and they have better locations. But there is no difference with respect to outcall. There is no "red light" area of Lisbon, like there is in some cities worldwide.
Unless you get some particular enjoyment from a pick-up, I wouldn't bother with it. From a standpoint of true Hooker clubs, there are a couple of late night ones that serve liquor and meals, but they are more expensive than escorts. And in fact on the local board, many local guys who have been there assert that it is in fact the known escorts who drop by in a nice dress to see if they can get a free meal, a few drinks, and a very expensive booking from a "club guy" who is usually a foreign tourist or a foreign businessman.
Portuguese women are pretty damn straightforward about sex work. There have been many positive reports with respect to Seeking Arrangement for Lisbon, so if you want to whole song and dance routine of taking a lady to dinner and getting the satisfaction of being in the 90-95 percent of her customers who she has GFE sex with afterwards, that is an option if you want to join Seeking Arrangement and exchange a lot of messages. You could get the same experience, with a 100 percent chance of sex afterward, by booking a long session with playboy bunny type outcall escort Carolina Belmont.
As far as true pick-ups from non-Hooker bars, or in the general populace, I am inclined to say no, with an even stronger no if you are older and don't speak Portuguese. Another thing that guys who spend a lot of time in South America or the Philippines need to understand about Europe (excluding the Ukraine) is that there is zero interest among the women in moving to the United States. Even now, the former "mall girls" of Mexico, South America and the Philippines have largely moved to the Seeking Arrangement format. There was of course a time in which an impoverished young lady with a service level job in an impoverished country would take a small chance of making a large profit by dating and appearing to immediately fall in love with an American tourist who flirted with her. The guys who took advantage of this without properly compensating her for the sex were called butterflies. I think you could walk the bars and malls of Lisbon flirting with women and completely strike out. The hookers advertise on Escort Privada, Apartadox, Portal Privado, etc. Some ladies who do sex work but don't want to advertise on those sites are on seeking arrangement. The women working civilian jobs don't want to be approached by tourists for sex. Of course most of the EP and Apartadox ladies are students, or have civilian jobs, but they keep those parts of their lives separate.
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[QUOTE=Kbdb2488;2715860]Thank you Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!
Is their a specific area of Lisbon I should focus on as far as outcall convenience? Also, any nightlife recommendations where one could get some entertainment back to the room? Are their freelancers out and about or is it escort outcall mainly?[/QUOTE]Anna Balthazar (portalprivado) and Carolina Belmont (Apartadox) are both former EP girls who now work indie. Both are great and I can vouch for them personally, but Carolina this year and Anna from late 2020.
Most of the girls you see advertising on the photo-verified sites will do outcall, although they charge a rate that is not worth it for it.
Most of the roster on EP are part-timers in any event.
Past that as outcall goes, you are looking at clubs (which I avoid and consider grossly overpriced) or sugar babies. In terms of the latter, most don't realize just who exactly it is they are competing against, so again, overpriced.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2715915]I usually stay using loyalty in the western chain hotels which are mostly on a long, boring stretch of road that is just a little too far to walk to touristy areas. There are some Holiday Inns that are closer to tourist attractions and they are nicer than the typical USA Holiday Inns. A few times I have stayed in "local Portuguese" hotels and they have better locations. But there is no difference with respect to outcall. There is no "red light" area of Lisbon, like there is in some cities worldwide.
Unless you get some particular enjoyment from a pick-up, I wouldn't bother with it. From a standpoint of true Hooker clubs, there are a couple of late night ones that serve liquor and meals, but they are more expensive than escorts. And in fact on the local board, many local guys who have been there assert that it is in fact the known escorts who drop by in a nice dress to see if they can get a free meal, a few drinks, and a very expensive booking from a "club guy" who is usually a foreign tourist or a foreign businessman.
Portuguese women are pretty damn straightforward about sex work. There have been many positive reports with respect to Seeking Arrangement for Lisbon, so if you want to whole song and dance routine of taking a lady to dinner and getting the satisfaction of being in the 90-95 percent of her customers who she has GFE sex with afterwards, that is an option if you want to join Seeking Arrangement and exchange a lot of messages. You could get the same experience, with a 100 percent chance of sex afterward, by booking a long session with playboy bunny type outcall escort Carolina Belmont..[/QUOTE]Thank you for taking the time to give me a realistic view of Lisbon, I can't wait to give it a shot!
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Confirming
[QUOTE=VincentVegas22;2704931]Hi, I know this is my first post here but this board was very helpful to me in my recent trip so I wanted to give a review of someone I saw discussed here. Mia Tavares.
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Maybe your experiences would be better. Just men directly. But she did advertise couples and I was trying to make it easy on her but I would not recommend.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I can confirm this 100%.
When I met her first months ago, she was almost new in that business, of course shy, only very few tattoos. But in the last few months, her service lacked more and more and all the mentioned examples in the above post are true.
She is a nice and sweet one, but unfortunately she smokes a lot, and for that money she get, she has to provide more and better service (like others from EP do). E. g in her ads she offers CIM + COF, but neither she accepts.
I hope that she will become better in future, if not, she won't have many repeating customers.
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Updates
A lot of updates to make, and thanks everyone for the great reviews and input.
In post 4134, I listed the EP ladies with good reviews.
Obviously, Mia Tavares needs to be stricken from the list.
But Valeria Diaz and Mariana Amaral should be added to the recommended list.
A trusted reviewer on the local board, who has given 9's out of 10 to several independents recommended here was displeased with both Iris Simões and Madalena Duque, primarily based on looks and body, but he indicated that Madalena Duque was CBJ only despite her advertisement.
Just as importantly, a whole bunch of Lisbon reviews appeared on the big American review board, and they were favorable.
The same reviewer gave Carolina Belmont a 9 for looks and an 8 for performance, gave Diana Real an 8 and an 8, Ines the independent an 8 and a 9.
The reviewer said that Ines reminded him of Lindsay Lohan. All were confirmed as BBBJ, with CIM mentioned for Carolina Belmont and Ines. He seemed very pleased with his Lisbon encounters.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]
A completely different reviewer did threesomes on separate occasions with Marta Castro and Joana Montenegro.
Marta Castro was given an 8 for looks and a 9 for performance, complimented her regarding DFK and BBBJ and her athletic physique, and it was noted that she was friendly and gave them tips regarding tourism.
Joana Montenegro was given an 8 and an 8 with similar compliments as Marta. It was noted that she is genuinely friendly and has nice see Cup breasts. The previous review of Joana on that board complimented her English skills and also gave her an 8 and an 8.
Joana has now received favorable reviews on several different review boards. Both Marta and Joanna advertise CIM, and nothing in the reviews suggested that was not available.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
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Burn out is a typical problem with the trade, unfortunately. The problem being many of the burned out ladies stuck with it. Compounding this, they either bring substance abuse issues with them and those become worse or develop them, in tandem with the burn out.
This is something you can see physically with the reported slide of ladies like Nicole Forte / Monica Melo, Julia Nobrega and Mia Tavares.
[QUOTE=Nitro2000;2716650]Unfortunately, I can confirm this 100%.
When I met her first months ago, she was almost new in that business, of course shy, only very few tattoos. But in the last few months, her service lacked more and more and all the mentioned examples in the above post are true.
She is a nice and sweet one, but unfortunately she smokes a lot, and for that money she get, she has to provide more and better service (like others from EP do). E. g in her ads she offers CIM + COF, but neither she accepts.
I hope that she will become better in future, if not, she won't have many repeating customers.[/QUOTE]
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Another experience
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2716825]A lot of updates to make, and thanks everyone for the great reviews and input.
In post 4134, I listed the EP ladies with good reviews.
The same reviewer gave Carolina Belmont a 9 for looks and an 8 for performance, gave Diana Real an 8 and an 8, Ines the independent an 8 and a 9.
The reviewer said that Ines reminded him of Lindsay Lohan. All were confirmed as BBBJ, with CIM mentioned for Carolina Belmont and Ines. He seemed very pleased with his Lisbon encounters.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Well, with Carolina Belmont, I cannot agree.
I met her few weeks ago, and. Well. Tastes are different (and this is good), but for me she was max. A 7 for looks and a 5 for performance.
But the most annoying point with her was, that she really refused a second round, even she confirmed in earlier messages.
Her reasoning was, that I needed too long for the first round and that she gave me a massage after.
Okeeeey. For the first round I took my time and enjoyed about 20 min, and after that she gave me a massage for about 15 min. And that was it.
She said, that most of her clients are finishing after 2 min and than it is ok for her for a second round.
Uhm. Yeah. Ok.
So after about 45 min, I said goodbye to her (and will not repeat).
Other ladies from EP offered a better performance. With 2-3 rounds per 1 hour session.
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Bianca Pereira
For some unknown reason Bianca Pereira changed her name to Adriana Santos.
It has been confirmed on the local board by someone who saw her and gave her a very good review.
She has been reviewed and recommended on several ISG posts.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Adriana-Santos-6642.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
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EP Warning: rebranded and other bad bad actors
The local board recently identified Escort Privada girl Rita Campos as a rottie who has gone by at least three different names in the past couple of years. So, she joins Mafalda Melo / Monica Melo / Nicole Forte in trying to use a handle change to ditch a bad reputation.
Other EP girls who have gotten recent, mediocre reviews include Vera Guerra, Mia Tavares, Eva Santos, Julia Nobrega, and Iris Simoes.
Basically, there as many good girls as bads or unknowns at the present time -- several of each.
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Update on Carolina Belmont
So, about this one -- well, you are the first guy I have seen going all the way back to her EP days to not give her top marks in the looks department. In fact, anything but a 8, 9 or 10 rating for Carolina would be news to me.
But there has been a little buzz that Carolina is asking some clients for 200/ HR now, up from 170. And sometimes for Uber atop that as well (is which is bunk -- she had a car, last I saw her).
IMO, 200 is too much. And I am dubious about a girl that does only outcall and tries to bilk tourists, because haggling over this sort of thing just leaves everyone concerned feeling sour about it. And anyone doing outcall only is dealing mostly with visiting clients -- people who already have a room. Locals deal mostly with incall; the locals board is full of griping about EP and paying for a room and then paying 150 on top of that.
So if I call her again and it's not the same rate as last time, nope! There are ladies doing outcall for much less and who are very nearly as good.
[QUOTE=Nitro2000;2717287]Well, with Carolina Belmont, I cannot agree.
I met her few weeks ago, and. Well. Tastes are different (and this is good), but for me she was max. A 7 for looks and a 5 for performance.
But the most annoying point with her was, that she really refused a second round, even she confirmed in earlier messages.
Her reasoning was, that I needed too long for the first round and that she gave me a massage after.
Okeeeey. For the first round I took my time and enjoyed about 20 min, and after that she gave me a massage for about 15 min. And that was it.
She said, that most of her clients are finishing after 2 min and than it is ok for her for a second round.
Uhm. Yeah. Ok.
So after about 45 min, I said goodbye to her (and will not repeat).
Other ladies from EP offered a better performance. With 2-3 rounds per 1 hour session.[/QUOTE]
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This is an excellent review and summary I came across today from a United Kingdom review board that was done by an experienced reviewer.
The independent gem Karla Ferraz doesn't have an active ad, but that doesn't mean she won't come back.
A takeaway from the report is Yes, Escort Privada is hit and miss, but there are ladies who are constant and consistent hits.
In fact Maria Conceicao of Escort Privada just received an extremely favorable mention on the local board from a guy who promised a full review. She is clearly young, hot and likes to fuck.
Maria has now received at least eight extremely favorable reviews on multiple boards from experienced reviewers.
And Valeria Diaz who is reviewed favorably in the review below is also mentioned favorably here on ISG.
So the key is picking correctly, which is why we have review boards.
Here is the review post copied from the you. K. Site's International Section, which was done in 2022.
"Concluded a trip to Lisbon some weeks ago. Total score: six girls, mix of girls from escort privada and apartadox. All outcalls to my hotel. Will add to this post as I go along.
In general the 150 euro per hour flat rate for outcalls made me enthusiastic to book in as many as possible. But my schedule only gave me at most one window a day for a booking. Additionally alcohol impairs my performance, so sometime the meetings would end without me finishing. Which I'm not particularly annoyed about, but want to avoid where I can.
1. Flavia Lima and Pureza, escort privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/pureza-vilar/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flavia-lima/[/URL]
Decided to kick off with a bang. Flavia was on my hotlist but pureza had been slated in reviews on ISG so I was wary. But no one else was available that flavia could bring. Comms easy through WhatsApp, good english. Came to my room door no problem. Two hour duo booking was supposed to be a fuck fest. Instead let down by lacklustre service from pureza. Flavia was very hot, typical curvy Brazilian body with a few tattoos. Blonde, great skin. Probably mid or early 20's. Great GFE service from her. Very pretty face. Brazilian not Portuguese. Services were vanilla GFE but delivered well. Pureza had an average face, indeed a massive bottom half, and is probably early 20's. All fine, except service was terrible. Offered rimming and anal but half hearted rimming and used her hands to block penetration. I told her to leave after the first hour in fact. Continued to fuck flavia for another hour. Made plans to see her again but comms and availability was spotty. My idea was to cultivate her for a duo once I find another good girl.
2. Sofia Andrade, Escort Privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sofia-andrade/[/URL]
Arranged on short notice. Fancied a skinny Portuguese girl after the meat fest of Flavia and Pureza. Sofia was certainly skinny with pert tits and a relatively peachy butt. But her presentation and service was generally terrible. Unshaved, rough skin, bad teeth, and generally not very enthusiastic. We ended the hour with me wanking myself off into her mouth and eating her tits.
3. Maria Conceicao, Escort Privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
Arranged a day or so in advanc. Great comms and English. Works at a luxury hotel as a day job and is relatively low volume. Very chatty, sparkly personality. Great perky tits and puffy nips. Her tits were probably see cups but incredibly firm. Totally natural. Cute face rather than pretty. But nice plump lips and big brown eyes. Excellent, really top notch DFK and owo. Lots of tongue and saliva. She was very complimentary and remarked that she was getting very wet as I started eating her tits. "Oh, you're going to make me very wet". I was expecting a multi orgasmic session but weirdly she was very quiet and seemingly unresponsive during penetration. Very nice GFE. Planned to see again but didn't have time.
4. Valeria Diaz, Escort Privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valeria-diaz/[/URL]
Decided to go for experience over youth this time. I liked the look of Valeria's big, stiff, nipples and she looks like she keeps herself in shape. Arranged to meet on shortish notice (as usual), she needed a bit of reassuring as she was coming from cascais. Works in a clinic or spa as a day job and has two kids. Tight and trim body, probably in her late 30's or early 40's. Enhanced see or the cups that suited her. All well presented except possibly for her teeth which weren't great. Face was average to below average, looks a little older in the face than her body, if that makes sense. She shines on service and enthusiasm. Quite insatiable appetite. She brought an extra set of lingerie unrequested. Stripped off her blue body playsuit and I took her balanced on a big footstool in the hotel room. Petite girl on all fours with my cock angled downwards into her pussy. Very vocally liked it. Then took her to mish, semi-prone bone (with her legs on the ground and stomach on the bed), doggy and all the usual. Finished pounding her in spoons. Another note I'll add is all the girls do OWO as a matter of course. Great service and a reliable fuck. Slightly more PSE than GFE I suppose, but nothing extreme.
5. Karla Ferraz, Apartadox.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Karla-Ferraz-6097.html[/URL]
Karla was my gem. Ended up seeing her three times: two two-hour sessions and an overnight. Decided to trawl Apartadox after several unsatisfying Escort Privada encounters. None of the really hot Portuguese girls seemed to be replying, so I decided to go Brazilian.
Get Karla up into my room on the first meet, she asks if she can have a shower. Immediately starts stripping out of her civvies. Absolutely stunning on all aspects. Medium caramel skinned Brazilian from Porto Allegre. Bikini tan lines. Less than a month in Lisbon. Gorgeous plump lips and liquid, dark brown, almond eyes. Thick black hair. Hint of abs, tight and toned ass and thighs. No jiggle anywhere. Silky smooth skin. Yes this sounds fluffy, but I put my money where my mouth is LOL.
Service was perfect GFE with a slight kinky twist. As she got in the shower I was about to join her when she calls out, "are you coming? Music to my ears! In the shower with my back to her she reaches around for my dick and gently starts to massage it, unprompted. Brought to mind some of the great showers I've had with girls in Hong Kong.
Other highlights: generally great, sloppy OWO. Usually provided unprompted. She couldn't seem to get enough of the dick. Any time her mouth wasn't in DFK it was with my dick or balls in it. Face fucking in all positions, she hardly gagged. She also provided enthusiastic rimming and prostate massage. She had a bottle of baby oil in her bag and gave me a long massage once, during which she rimmed me for about 10 minutes straight. Incredible stuff.
Also extremely multi orgasmic -- maybe we were a good match. She could cum 4-5 times per session, whether from my fingers, tongue or penetration. In doggy crouched on top of the stool she would cry out in Portuguese as I pounded her from behind. Tongue lightly flicking on her clit would also get her bucking and moaning in no time.
Overall, just couldn't get enough of her. Almost booked her a fourth time but was simply too busy. She says she is planning to come to London next year, I hope I have a chance to see her.
In all, I think Lisbon represents incredible value for money. You get a selection of really hot girls at 150 euros an hour. I paid 500 euros for the overnight with Karla (although she may have given me a discount as I saw her twice already, and tipped her). I think Portuguese women are stunning and I do love a good Brazilian, so overall I have absolutely no complaints about the quality of girls there. All the girls are also tend to be naturally slim and curvaceous, much fewer of the pumped up and siliconised dolls in London. Perfect for a relaxed, multi-hour GFE, which is my preferred format. ".
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And this was from that same reviewer on the United Kingdom board from late 2019, so the review is a few years old.
Most of the ladies he reviewed are gone now, but Joana Montenegro remains, and as I mentioned before, she has excellent reviews on four different review boards. Here is what he had to say about Joana:
"finally there's [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL].
Tall light-skinned black girl with big natural hair. Absolutely stunning body. Long limbs, natural, heavy hanging the cups or bigger, with huge stiff nipples. Big, shapely ass. And absolutely loves being dominated with heavy spanking, choking, and orgasm denial. Offers DFK, CIM, excellent rimming but no anal or anal play. Saw her twice for a total of three hours all in at Eur 450. Good comms, perfect English, but can be disorganised and scattered. Well worth it, in my view. Genuinely sweet girl who works at a hotel front desk and is doing this for extra cash for her ill mother. But she also seems to love it. Extracted several loud shuddering orgasms from her as she wailed to be slammed harder.
Overall EP has lived up to my already high expectations after using them once a couple of years ago. I did see many lukewarm reviews on ISG so was wary, but now I think EP in Lisbon has the best quality to price ratio of any agency I've used. It does help that Lisbon just seems packed with beautiful girls with stunning bodies. Really can't beat Portugese women. ".
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Recommendations?
Hey guys,
Can you please recommend some escorts to me in Lisbon? I tried Sofia and Bianca, and both were honestly underwhelming. They had great bodies, but I think they were just unenthusiastic which completely ruined my mood. I am looking for some fair skinned, young, slim / petite escorts. Boobs are not a priority. Enthusiasm and their weight is. Please suggest, thank you!
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[QUOTE=SecurityBanana;2720770]Hey guys,
Can you please recommend some escorts to me in Lisbon? I tried Sofia and Bianca, and both were honestly underwhelming. They had great bodies, but I think they were just unenthusiastic which completely ruined my mood. I am looking for some fair skinned, young, slim / petite escorts. Boobs are not a priority. Enthusiasm and their weight is. Please suggest, thank you![/QUOTE]These are the three highest ranked / best reviewed ladies from this group. Give them a try and see if you like them better than who you saw before.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sara-4/[/URL]
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Recommendation
Hi to all,
I'm new here, so I hope all is okay. Since this is my first time in Lisbon, I have some questions that I'm hoping you can answer for me.
First, I'm not sure if it's safe to use an outcall service in my hotel.
I've read most of your posts where you used this service and suggested certain girls, but because I'm not in my country and am unsure of what can happen, I'm worried for my safety.
Additionally, any hotel restrictions can be avoided in order to get the woman to my room (I am not reserve the hotel yet, so any recommendation).
Last can you recommend some trust escout site that can look for cute girls.
Thanks all.
Jeo.
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[QUOTE=Jeohos74;2720957]Hi to all,
I'm new here, so I hope all is okay. Since this is my first time in Lisbon, I have some questions that I'm hoping you can answer for me.
First, I'm not sure if it's safe to use an outcall service in my hotel.
I've read most of your posts where you used this service and suggested certain girls, but because I'm not in my country and am unsure of what can happen, I'm worried for my safety.
Additionally, any hotel restrictions can be avoided in order to get the woman to my room (I am not reserve the hotel yet, so any recommendation)..[/QUOTE]Prostitution is legal in Portugal, and most importantly men and women are equals, and a person renting a hotel room is allowed to have guests in the room.
So you are three for three.
As far as recommendation, Escort Privada is the predominant outcall agency.
The four ladies that consistently get the best reviews are Carlota d'Almeida, Joana Montenegro, Maria Conceicao, and Marta Castro. If you read the last 10 pages of the thread, you will find plenty of other recommended Escort Privada ladies. Joana is reviewed as speaking excellent English, and my favorite Sara Valente is fluent in English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]
For independents, here are two that have received numerous compliments from English-speaking tourists for hotel outcall.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Eloa-Sanchez-6532.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2720948]These are the three highest ranked / best reviewed ladies from this group. Give them a try and see if you like them better than who you saw before.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sara-4/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply Mongerer. You really contribute quite a bit to the community, appreciated! Do you have any advise / reviews for the following:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Aurora-Alfaiate-6517.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Jade-Queiroz-6317.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/vera-guerra/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rita-campos/[/URL]
From your list, does Ines offer full access? Any specific code word to use?
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[QUOTE=SecurityBanana;2720996]Thank you for your reply Mongerer. You really contribute quite a bit to the community, appreciated! Do you have any advise / reviews for the following:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Aurora-Alfaiate-6517.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Jade-Queiroz-6317.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/vera-guerra/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rita-campos/[/URL]
From your list, does Ines offer full access? Any specific code word to use?[/QUOTE]To the best of my knowledge, Aurora Alfaiate does not have any reviews yet.
The second one, Jade Queiroz, got a horrible 1 out of 10 review on the local board, which was confirmed by another poster. She is not, definitely not, someone you want to see.
Vera, Eva, and Rita, the last three on your list, have received mostly mediocre reviews.
For the face and body style you seem to be interested in, Penelope Garcia of Escort Privada got a perfect 10 out of 10 review on the local board from one of its most experienced reviewers. He simply said she is the hottest girl he has seen at EP. I didn't list her in the last post, because it was just one review, but it was a very meaningful review.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Penelope-Garcia-6340.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
You don't need a code word for any of the docemassage ladies in those links. They are full service escorts that work in their own separate incall places. Don't focus too much on the word massage.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2721010]To the best of my knowledge, Aurora Alfaiate does not have any reviews yet.
The second one, Jade Queiroz, got a horrible 1 out of 10 review on the local board, which was confirmed by another poster. She is not, definitely not, someone you want to see.
Vera, Eva, and Rita, the last three on your list, have received mostly mediocre reviews.
For the face and body style you seem to be interested in, Penelope Garcia of Escort Privada got a perfect 10 out of 10 review on the local board from one of its most experienced reviewers. He simply said she is the hottest girl he has seen at EP. I didn't list her in the last post, because it was just one review, but it was a very meaningful review.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Penelope-Garcia-6340.html[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
You don't need a code word for any of the docemassage ladies in those links. They are full service escorts that work in their own separate incall places. Don't focus too much on the word massage.[/QUOTE]Thank you mongerer!
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Couple of Additional Items
A reviewer on the big American board did a couple of reviews that provide useful information.
First, on a negative note, he confirmed that Mafaldo Melo of Escort Privada is a terrible performer with misleading photos. She has been previously noted as a Do Not See lady.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mafalda-melo/[/URL]
On a much more positive note, he gave an excellent review of Guilia Viana, an independent in her 30's who does BBBJ (most reviews indicate to completion) and covered anal sex in addition of course to covered vaginal sex.
Guilia Viana gets excellent reviews on the local board, with mostly 8's and some 9's out of 10.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Giulia-Viana-4962.html[/URL]
Here are some detailed reviews of Guilia from different sites.
"I scheduled a 2 hour session with her, and I would do it again.
Her hair is different than in the photos. Now her hair is braided. And her tattoos are not visible in the photos either. She is from Brasil and speaks Portuguese, and speaks a little English.
Her body is great. Youthful, tight, and toned, and smelled fresh. I loved looking at her body throughout the session, especially while she was giving me head.
I really liked her attitude. It felt like we were old friends. She did everything I asked with enthusiasm!
Her blowjob skills are 5-Star! Lots of saliva, tongue, deep throat, wonderful handwork, plenty of attention to the balls.
Her pussy is tighter than I expected and we had great sex in numerous positions. She gets really wet naturally which I really liked. Doggie style was amazing because it felt great, but also because her ass (and body) are amazing to look at!
Anal was really good. I could tell that she really likes anal because she was doing a lot of the thrusting herself in ways that only someone enjoying it could move. Her ass is tight too!
In the end I decided I wanted to cum in her mouth. I stood on the bed and jerked off while she sucked on my balls. It was heaven. She really knows how to use her tongue, and her enthusiasm is a real turn on. Plus I could see her incredible body in the mirror. When I was ready I told her and she grabbed my cock and sucked up my cum until it was all gone. It was like she loves cum. But then she went to the bathroom to spit it out LOL.
She is a great provider and I really liked our time together!
" Age: Advert says 25, but I'm betting 30 minimum.
Guy: 7/10 pretty, not flashy but quite nice.
Body: 8/10 Proportional, well made, tail well designed but moderate in curves / dimension (I like it more than 1 size bigger: D) Skin tone is slightly darker than the excessive brightness of the photos wants to show. Not being dark, but it's a skin tone right there on the border of the "little goat".
Less positive point: Some excess of tattoos, on the leg, back, etc. I'm not a fan and they take away some elegance / charm when in excess.
Attitude: 8/10 Friendly, available for good service and satisfying. Not very talkative.
Oral: 9/10.
Vaginal: 8/10.
Location: Av. John XXI.
Known place with quality for the act. Shower in the corner of the room.
Small room but very comfortable.
Shower taken and action.
First round very positive, oral, vaginal on top and from 4.
New shower to start over 2nd round. Behold, some fatigue and the engine didn't want to start at first: LOL:
He masturbated me and offered to take an oral until the end (I think of condoms in the final phase. This TD is more than 2 months old and I don't remember everything.).
A sure value that will probably deserve another visit. "
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Visit in Lisbon
Hello everyone.
Haven't visited Lisabon in a few years and I am thinking about coming next month.
A girl from ApartadoX draw my attention and I was wondering if anyone visited her and if she is real?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Emy-6825.html[/URL]
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Incall or outcall
Hi,
What do you prefer incall or outcall service for foreign tourist?, and what is preferred incall location, of course with perfect girl and best service, and sure to be safe.
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Catch-up
About Emy. I haven't seen any reviews on her, so I don't have any idea what kind of performer she is. But all of Apartadox is photo-verified, so those pics are real. I have observed the outdoor shoots tend to be less airbrushed as well, so that is likely very real.
Most incall girls operate in the newer part of downtown -- around Saldanha, Campo Grande and Marques de Pomball. There are some real stars scattered about, but if you are in that general zone, you will be able to cheaply and easily walk, Uber or Metro your way to 80% of the best incall ladies.
As for incall vs outcall, right now the typical incall girl is charging 120 to 150/h and EP (the only all-outcall agency) is charging 150. If you already have a hotel room, the price difference is probably zero. Also, hotels will not hassle you or her about outcalls. So, the real issues are where the incall is, how easy and cheap is it to get there, and how comfortable you are with hosting an outcall.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2721010]To the best of my knowledge, Aurora Alfaiate does not have any reviews yet.
The second one, Jade Queiroz, got a horrible 1 out of 10 review on the local board, which was confirmed by another poster. She is not, definitely not, someone you want to see.
Vera, Eva, and Rita, the last three on your list, have received mostly mediocre reviews.
For the face and body style you seem to be interested in, Penelope Garcia of Escort Privada got a perfect 10 out of 10 review on the local board from one of its most experienced reviewers. He simply said she is the hottest girl he has seen at EP. I didn't list her in the last post, because it was just one review, but it was a very meaningful review.[/QUOTE]I have been with Aurora about 3 times and she is one of my favorites. She is short and tiny, the type of girl you can throw around and she seems to like to be pounded. Her tits look exactly like the pictures and has a nice ass for a small girl. She has a pretty face in my opinion, like pretty girl next door not pretty model. If she kissed with tongue she would be my all time favorite because everything else that I like she does well (I am not into anal).
I also saw you mention a bad Review on Mafalda Melo, remember that is Monica Melo who got horrible reviews on the local board. A few girls recently changed their names.
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[QUOTE=Hawk1377;2721815]I have been with Aurora about 3 times and she is one of my favorites. She is short and tiny, the type of girl you can throw around and she seems to like to be pounded. Her tits look exactly like the pictures and has a nice ass for a small girl. She has a pretty face in my opinion, like pretty girl next door not pretty model. If she kissed with tongue she would be my all time favorite because everything else that I like she does well (I am not into anal).
I also saw you mention a bad Review on Mafalda Melo, remember that is Monica Melo who got horrible reviews on the local board. A few girls recently changed their names.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the information.
Can you provide any insight on the many unreviewed Escort Privada ladies below:
Valentina Gomes.
Margarida Vaz.
Ana Lucia.
Ines Peres.
Olivia Sampaio.
Lara Lima.
Sandra Moura (who has one excellent review that the locals questioned the authenticity).
Matilda Cruz.
Lila Costa.
Caetana Capela.
Sabria Barbosa.
Filipe Lourenco.
Bruno Varela.
Laura Neto.
Rita Ipanema.
Jessica Medeiras.
And any thoughts on the list below?
Based on past reviews, the following ladies are highly recommended:
Carlota the'Almeida.
Joana Montenegro.
Maria Conceicao.
Marta Castro.
The following ladies are recommended (alphabetical order):
Andreia Martins.
Adrianna Santos (Formerly Bianca Pereira).
Alexandria Mendes.
Aurora Affiliate.
Camilla Pereira.
Carolina the'Almeida.
Caterina Rodriguez.
Diana Real.
Leonor Oliviera.
Mariana Amaral.
Penelope Garcia.
Sara Valente.
Silvia Nunes.
Soraia Albuquerque.
Valeria Diaz.
Recommended by many at first, but reviews are starting to decline:
Julia Nobrega.
Recommended by a few particularly for BBBJ, but mostly bad reviews:
Purity Vilar.
Not recommended, but only one review:
Eva Santos.
Madalena Duque.
Not recommended due to a belly issue, but attitude is okay:
Ines Simoes.
Not recommended due to too many bad reviews, or too many recent bad reviews:
Barbara Gouveia (once Anita Rocha).
Vera Guerra.
Rita Campos.
Monica Melo.
Mia Tavares.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2721970]Thank you very much for the information.
Can you provide any insight on the many unreviewed Escort Privada ladies below:
Valentina Gomes.
Margarida Vaz.
Ana Lucia.
Ines Peres.
Olivia Sampaio.
Lara Lima.
Sandra Moura (who has one excellent review that the locals questioned the authenticity).
Matilda Cruz.
Lila Costa.
Caetana Capela.
Sabria Barbosa.
Filipe Lourenco.
Bruno Varela.
Laura Neto.
Rita Ipanema.
Jessica Medeiras.
And any thoughts on the list below?
Based on past reviews, the following ladies are highly recommended:
Carlota the'Almeida.
Joana Montenegro.
Maria Conceicao.
Marta Castro.
The following ladies are recommended (alphabetical order):
Andreia Martins.
Adrianna Santos (Formerly Bianca Pereira).
Alexandria Mendes.
Aurora Affiliate.
Camilla Pereira.
Carolina the'Almeida.
Caterina Rodriguez.
Diana Real.
Leonor Oliviera.
Mariana Amaral.
Penelope Garcia.
Sara Valente.
Silvia Nunes.
Soraia Albuquerque.
Valeria Diaz.
Recommended by many at first, but reviews are starting to decline:
Julia Nobrega.
Recommended by a few particularly for BBBJ, but mostly bad reviews:
Purity Vilar.
Not recommended, but only one review:
Eva Santos.
Madalena Duque.
Not recommended due to a belly issue, but attitude is okay:
Ines Simoes.
Not recommended due to too many bad reviews, or too many recent bad reviews:
Barbara Gouveia (once Anita Rocha).
Vera Guerra.
Rita Campos.
Monica Melo.
Mia Tavares.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL][/QUOTE]Of course my friend.
Valentina Gomes. I saw her 2 months ago and I would give a 6. Communication was easy via whatsapp. She is a little bigger than her pics, show, probably mid to late 20's and honestly nothing was that memorable about her, if I didn't keep notes on my mongering in a book I wouldn't even remember her. I gave her and "ehhhh". She does kiss and does OWO.
Margarida Vaz. Tried to set up a few times but our schedules didn't line up. She seems very nice through our chats.
Ana Lucia. Same as with Margarida but I really really want to see ana as her body type is what I like.
Ines Peres. And / a.
Olivia Sampaio. And / a.
Lara Lima. I would give her a 7. Super easy to communicate through whatsapp. She is heavily tatted up and slim. Face was ok. She did not kiss but did OWO and the sex was fgood and she was into it.
Sandra Moura (who has one excellent review that the locals questioned the authenticity). I question the authenticity as well because ID give her a 5 or 6. She is way bigger than her pics and her face was far from good. I wrote in my notes "nothing good".
Matilda Cruz. And / a.
Lila Costa. And / a.
Caetana Capela. And / a.
Sabria Barbosa. Times didn't line up but she said she does OWO and french kisses.
Filipe Lourenco. 7. 5 she is older than 21, ID say atleast 30. She looks like a woman in her 30's that goes to the gym twice a day because the body is like the pictures. GHer face and voice kinda ruin the nice body. Also she kisses and does OWO but seemed like she was in a rush to try to get me to finish as quickly as possible (mercenary).
Bruno Varela. 6 because her teeth and gums. They are super big and ruined it. I had in my notes (butterface) she aimed to please and her body was like the pictures but I would never repeat.
Laura Neto. 7 she is young, sexy and cute. Said she kisses with tongue but did not. TI put in my notes that (the sex was really good. She really liked all 4's).
Rita Ipanema. And / a.
Jessica Medeiras. And / a.
And any thoughts on the list below?
Based on past reviews, the following ladies are highly recommended:
Carlota the'Almeida. I saw Carlota and she had just cut her hair really short. She is slim and alittle spinner, not as crvy as the photos but I gave her a 9 because she loves sex. She kisses, OWO and really seems to enjoy what she does and gets so into it.
Joana Montenegro. ID give a 9 Joana is one of my favorites. Her body is just like the photos. She has braces but she kisses with tongue and does OWO. She gets into the sex and I had great talks with her before and after.
Maria Conceicao. I would give 8 Maria is young, a little bigger than photos but not much. She is all about customer service. She will aim to please. Kiss, OWO, CIM and doesn't deny anything.
Marta Castro. Bigger than phots, kinda dumpy butt but had a nice rack but her attitue was shit. She thinks she is better than everyone and her shit don't stink. The performance as mediocre. I wouldn't recommend.
The following ladies are recommended (alphabetical order):
Andreia Martins.
Adrianna Santos (Formerly Bianca Pereira). Isa her when she was Bianca. I would give her a 9 just for the body alone. Her face is pretty too. The only real knock I give her is she made weird noises during sex like her eyes were closed and it was all fake but I did not care haha.
Alexandria Mendes. And / a.
Aurora Affiliate. Already gave you my review, one of my faves.
Camilla Pereira. And / a.
Carolina the'Almeida. Much much bigger than the pictures. I would give a 6 just because of how much she wanted to please and did not deny anything. She really loves sex like her sister.
Caterina Rodriguez. I gave a 6 but honestly it was not memorable. I even had in my notes (unmemorable) exceot for that she has no chest at all like the pictures depict and tons of tattoos.
Diana Real. And / a.
Leonor Oliviera. And / a.
Mariana Amaral. And / a.
Penelope Garcia. And / a.
Sara Valente. Sara is super nice and sweet. Has a great body and spends alot of time in the gym. I would say early to mid 30's, face kinda ruins the nice body but she did OWO, kissed and the sex was really good.
Silvia Nunes. And / a.
Soraia Albuquerque. The first TD I did was about Soraia and I think I gave her too high of a score. I would give a 7. She has such nice tits but her face is ehhh and she is young and alittle awkward. Always asking is everything ok, didn't initiate anything.
Valeria Diaz. And / a.
Recommended by many at first, but reviews are starting to decline:
Julia Nobrega. I was the one that did the TD that I believe you mentioned here. DO NOT SEE HER. She is mid to late 30's and time has not been kind to her. She was chubby, cellulite, smelled like 10 packs of cigarettes and like she took a bah th in a gallon of wine. It was the worst experinece I have ever had.
Recommended by a few particularly for BBBJ, but mostly bad reviews:
Purity Vilar. And / a.
Not recommended, but only one review:
Eva Santos. And / a.
Madalena Duque. And / a.
Not recommended due to a belly issue, but attitude is okay:
Ines Simoes. And / a.
Not recommended due to too many bad reviews, or too many recent bad reviews:
Barbara Gouveia (once Anita Rocha). I saw her. She is older than what's there ID say early 30's. She has a really nice body, seems like she had work done to her face. She was nice but a true mercenary that is just there for the money.
Vera Guerra. And / a.
Rita Campos. And / a.
Monica Melo. And / a.
Mia Tavares. And / a.
I wasn't trying to be rude in any of my descriptions of my experiences with these GP's but wanted to be completely transparent and honest. I hope this helps.
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Thank you so much for this wealth of information.
Especially about the previously unreviewed ladies, many of who are on the younger side.
I have seen Sara Valente three times and your description is spot on. I kept recommending her, and more than half the guys absolutely loved her, but others didn't.
I just got back from a quick trip to a massage parlor in the worthless area I live in and was pleased that I managed to cum from a lackluster CBJ, even though the Asian lady clearly said Oral No Condom after I paid her tip.
I mention this because Sara puts incredible effort and pride into her BBBJTCIM, in addition to her genuine friendliness and seeming love of sex.
It is easy for the local Portuguese guys to not really understand just how good they have it compared to the rest of the world.
I hope the Mods will make Hawk1377's review post that I quoted in this post A Report of Distinction.
[QUOTE=Hawk1377;2722084]Of course my friend.
Valentina Gomes. I saw her 2 months ago and I would give a 6. Communication was easy via whatsapp. She is a little bigger than her pics, show, probably mid to late 20's and honestly nothing was that memorable about her, if I didn't keep notes on my mongering in a book I wouldn't even remember her. I gave her and "ehhhh". She does kiss and does OWO.
Margarida Vaz. Tried to set up a few times but our schedules didn't line up. She seems very nice through our chats.
Ana Lucia. Same as with Margarida but I really really want to see ana as her body type is what I like.
Ines Peres. And / a.
Olivia Sampaio. And / a.
Lara Lima. I would give her a 7. Super easy to communicate through whatsapp. She is heavily tatted up and slim. Face was ok. She did not kiss but did OWO and the sex was fgood and she was into it.
Sandra Moura (who has one excellent review that the locals questioned the authenticity). I question the authenticity as well because ID give her a 5 or 6. She is way bigger than her pics and her face was far from good. I wrote in my notes "nothing good".
Matilda Cruz. And / a.
Lila Costa. And / a.
Caetana Capela. And / a.
Sabria Barbosa. Times didn't line up but she said she does OWO and french kisses.[/QUOTE]
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Opinions needed
Guys I'll be free for a solo 3 day (land Saturday leaving Tuesday morning) trip in Europe and am trying to decide where to visit. So far I'm considering Frankfurt / Cologne, Vienna, Barcelona or Lisbon and would be interested in hearing your thoughts.
A little about me and what I'm looking for: mid-30's, very experienced in these things in Asia (Bangkok, Angeles city, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Macau to name just a few) but much less so in Europe. Been to a few different fkks in 2 previous trips but never been to Austria / Spain / Portugal and don't speak their respective languages. Furthermore any travel during these 3 days will be using public transport / Uber / taxi.
My preference has always been young slim white girls (18-22 with a pretty face, preferably blonde with flat stomach & tight body, no cellulite and minimal tattoos, silicone tits are ok), BBBJ is a must but DFK is optional. Anal would be great but not a deal breaker.
Latinas could be interesting but the big tits / big asses girls tend to either have bigger stomachs or stretch marks which would ruin my experience. Have concern on language barriers too.
FYI I tried and was very disappointed with globe in Zurich. While I heard service was high, all the girls I saw seemed old and weathered. Not my type.
My price point is around 150-250 EUR / HR but relatively flexible for better visuals and / or anal.
1. Good old fkks. Sharks / samya / maybe palace.
- very comfortable being in Germany.
- Frankfurt hotels pretty cheap.
- no concern with language barrier.
- been to sharks and samya before, but would be first time in palace.
- itinerary would be sharks on sat, then either samya / palace / sharks for the other 2 days. Never been impressed with oase girl quality.
- historically sharks has always enough girls that I could find a few 8/10's and have a good time. $150/30 min inc BBBJ seems quite expensive given the entry fee though.
- samya is ok especially since cheaper than sharks, but previously I found the quality a step lower.
- not much language barrier when talking with these RO girls.
- German food is not great.
2. Vienna.
- never been to Austria, could be interesting to see the sights in the morning.
- not so interested in architecture / classical musicians though.
- FKK gt wien is probably the best option for my time, with wellcum / mystic / etc too far to travel.
- other options include ici Paris / maxim but don't know too much about them.
- food seems to be better than Germany, but not by much.
- prices seem to be slightly higher than Frankfurt but still within reach (apart from Babylon which is too far to go anyway).
3. Barcelona.
- never been.
- Spanish food seems decent but not super familiar with it.
- no FKK type experience but only brothel / hourly outcalls.
- language barrier with the girls may be an issue.
- anal probably easier to smaller upcharge.
- lots of touristy things to do during the day and fill up my camera as "evidence".
- SA could be a viable alternative.
4. Lisbon.
- never been.
- very cost effective destination, believe most girl prices are only 150/ HR outcall.
- not sure about the quality of women though, seems like a lot of late 20's / early 30's rather than the age bracket I'm looking for.
- probably will have the most language issues with the girls.
- not so many things to do outside of visiting girls.
- less "obvious" of a destination when compared to Frankfurt.
- would rate Portuguese food around the same level as Austrian (maybe half step above).
So far I'm leaning towards Germany just because I'm more comfortable there, but what do you guys think? Is there a clear winner? Or would you suggest an alternative destination in western Europe? If Germany is the clear winner what do you think of my choice of fkks? Are there much better ones with my preferred type?
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I replied in the Barcelona forum.
Lisbon is a good city to walk around, Jorge Castle, the "river" / "bay" area, the endless hills and winding streets.
The most touristy areas are the castles of Sintra, the old city of Sintra itself, and the beaches and hiking trails of the Apple Beach area of the ocean itself west of Sintra. It will cost you some Uber fares to get there, but if you like hiking it is as good as anything in Europe, and a lot better frankly compared to what Germany has to offer for tourism. If you prefer trains, the Cascais / Estoril has good hiking / biking tourism, but in my opinion a step below Sintra and the far western beaches. Sesimbra / Setubal is somewhat similar to Cascais / Estoril, but a little more rural. You won't have any trouble finding touristic things if you like the outdoors and are willing to spend a few bucks with Uber.
Portuguese food is fish oriented. And custard tarts and port fine. They do very inventive things with fish, potatoes, breads and soups / stews.
From the list below, if you are okay with hotel outcall to your room, you have plenty to choose from in your desired categories. But unfortunately, like all over the world, the 18-21 year old little knockout girl is becoming more difficult to find. If you want to take one for the team, two meet your criteria from a picture perspective, but we have no reviews to gauge the authenticity of the pictures, age and performance. You won't find as many natural blondes in Portugal as in other countries.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/[/URL]
For ladies in your general category who have favorable reviews (some more favorable than others).
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-lima/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/laura-neto/[/URL]
As you can read below, Soraia has some quirks and some guys like her a lot better than other have. If you like young and not self-confident, she might be perfect.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
This lady is in college and has a very good review, but has a little more weight through the hips than you might want.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
You are going a few years over your target with these ladies, especially with Carlota who is in her 30's despite the lack of updates on the website, but she has been EP's top performer for a long time.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]
And while clearly not white, Joana is another top performer, and gets favorable notes regarding speaking English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
All of them are BBBJ, and Escort Privada communicates in English for scheduling. Plenty to keep you occupied for a short trip.
[QUOTE=Skepti10;2722753]Guys I'll be free for a solo 3 day (land Saturday leaving Tuesday morning) trip in Europe and am trying to decide where to visit. So far I'm considering Frankfurt / Cologne, Vienna, Barcelona or Lisbon and would be interested in hearing your thoughts.
A little about me and what I'm looking for: mid-30's, very experienced in these things in Asia (Bangkok, Angeles city, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Hong Kong, Macau to name just a few) but much less so in Europe. Been to a few different fkks in 2 previous trips but never been to Austria / Spain / Portugal and don't speak their respective languages. Furthermore any travel during these 3 days will be using public transport / Uber / taxi.
My preference has always been young slim white girls (18-22 with a pretty face, preferably blonde with flat stomach & tight body, no cellulite and minimal tattoos, silicone tits are ok), BBBJ is a must but DFK is optional. Anal would be great but not a deal breaker.
Latinas could be interesting but the big tits / big asses girls tend to either have bigger stomachs or stretch marks which would ruin my experience. Have concern on language barriers too.
FYI I tried and was very disappointed with globe in Zurich. While I heard service was high, all the girls I saw seemed old and weathered. Not my type.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2720948]These are the three highest ranked / best reviewed ladies from this group. Give them a try and see if you like them better than who you saw before.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sara-4/[/URL][/QUOTE]Does any of these fine ladies provide A-level service? Docemassagem won't refer to that.
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[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2722918]Does any of these fine ladies provide A-level service? Docemassagem won't refer to that.[/QUOTE]Ines would appear to be a no on anal according to the details of her reviews on the big American review board:
"Got into her room, she really reminds me of Lindsey Lohan for some reason, or that was the famous person she reminded me of. We started with a quick massage after a DFK greet. Her breasts are A's, a bit of sag, but I think she was beautiful. WALDT. We hit it off right away, joked around while we made out and I kissed her everywhere, was really like being with a real GF. Major passion from her and we really clicked. She was great at BBBJ and really wanted me to CIM this session, which I was happy to oblige after we had sex in many different positions, with DATY thrown into the mix in between. Some DATO too, though she wasn't into anal or fingers up her ass. I made her cum a few times, to the point where she had to push me away, she was so sensitive. She was so happy she came, it ignited another level of passion with her and we just kept DFK, kissing easch other everywhere, into one sweaty entanglement of limbs, bodies and tongues. I'll def see her again, hope to get back to Lisbon soon. "
"After the shower, she helped towel me off and I laid down on her tatami. She started with a nice masssage, that soon turned into a full body to body massage. Once I turned over we started some really nice DFK, and touches began all over. She went down on me, and it was one of the best BBBJ's that I have experienced, and I have had many. I asked to reciprocate, and she gladly accepted. She really heated up, and it felt like she came 3-4 times in pretty quick order. While I wanted to fuck her, her BBBJ was so good, and she asked for my milk. Who was I to turn her down. Exploded in her mouth and some on her face. We rested for a little while, and while she was game for round 2, I didn't have it in me. She is not a natural beauty, but is quite cute, with a sexual way about her that is off the charts. A definite must see in Lisbon. ".
None of Cleo's reviews on the local board say Yes in the Anal section, but the details of one of her reviews has a confusing (might be the translation) sentence about finger play. It seems to suggest that Cleo does anal digits, but you should of course confirm that with her.
"Site with some difficulty to park. Ordinary apartment.
Cleo is funny, elegant, but physically showing her age. She is very friendly, smiley and good-natured.
Interesting massage, good oral and as it is light, it is very active in the vagina. She gladly accepts our oral, and from the way she guided my finger, and the pleasure she got from it, I'd say she does anal, but I didn't ask. In the end she cuddled up, and we had an interesting conversation.
The grade is not higher, due to the physical attributes, and not having kissed, which was a shame for the atmosphere that was created. ".
And Sara just received a review a few minutes ago that indicates that Anal with Sara is a definite no.
" I then went to meet Nefertari. Service on Av. República in a well-known Spa, as I booked directly through her ad contact, the clash was more expensive than if I had booked over the Spa phone (negative point).
Nefertari is as Confrade Sanvito mentioned, she's cute but she's not an airplane, she's pretty but she's not pretty, in short, she's not a Top-Model but she's not a cameo either. Attentive to the client, she lets her grope and play with her in foreplay. Oral without to warm up Zé, then I jump on top of her in the missionary position. While pumping I ask if she does anal, she replies: " Txiii with your big and thick dick not even for a million euro! Analll.
Zé, happy with the compliment, set out to rock! So I ask her to come in her mouth, she agrees and there I squirt the nectar with millions of zézinhos in her mouth (she doesn't swallow, she spits it out).
I went to take a shower and I had to leave because I was in a hurry, but she was waiting for me on the mattress for the massage, so I went there (I hadn't even asked), and I enjoyed the massage! I don't know if there will be any course but it released some tension I was with. ".
And a note to our new friend Skepti10, these three ladies are 30-40 years old, so they are out of his desired age range.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2723053]Ines would appear to be a no on anal[/QUOTE]She definitely does not do anal. Since I'm not a big fan of it, it was never a problem. She's great on all other aspects. This review that Mongerer88 postedcould have been easily written by me (but it was not!):
"Got into her room, she really reminds me of Lindsey Lohan for some reason, or that was the famous person she reminded me of. We started with a quick massage after a DFK greet. Her breasts are A's, a bit of sag, but I think she was beautiful. WALDT. We hit it off right away, joked around while we made out and I kissed her everywhere, was really like being with a real GF. Major passion from her and we really clicked. She was great at BBBJ and really wanted me to CIM this session, which I was happy to oblige after we had sex in many different positions, with DATY thrown into the mix in between. Some DATO too, though she wasn't into anal or fingers up her ass. I made her cum a few times, to the point where she had to push me away, she was so sensitive. She was so happy she came, it ignited another level of passion with her and we just kept DFK, kissing easch other everywhere, into one sweaty entanglement of limbs, bodies and tongues. I'll def see her again, hope to get back to Lisbon soon. ".
"After the shower, she helped towel me off and I laid down on her tatami. She started with a nice masssage, that soon turned into a full body to body massage. Once I turned over we started some really nice DFK, and touches began all over. She went down on me, and it was one of the best BBBJ's that I have experienced, and I have had many. I asked to reciprocate, and she gladly accepted. She really heated up, and it felt like she came 3-4 times in pretty quick order. While I wanted to fuck her, her BBBJ was so good, and she asked for my milk. Who was I to turn her down. Exploded in her mouth and some on her face. We rested for a little while, and while she was game for round 2, I didn't have it in me. She is not a natural beauty, but is quite cute, with a sexual way about her that is off the charts. A definite must see in Lisbon".
Cléo is NOT also an A-Level lady. And she's not that keen on DFK. She's good but Inês is way, way better.
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Ella Secret
This lady is quite intriguing.
There is always a lot of demand in the forum for ladies who show their face in the ads and videos, which Ella Secret does, and who also have reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513.html[/URL]
She has gotten two excellent reviews on the local board from experienced reviewers, one an 8 out of 10, and the other a 9 out of 10.
She is described as tall, pretty and around 30 years old, does BBBJ, and anal at her discretion with a 50 euro upcharge. Her base price in the reviews is listed as 70 euros for thirty minutes and 120 euros for sixty minutes.
She apparently does not speak English but will use a translator to try and communicate in English using WhatsApp.
Here is the translation of one of her reviews on the local board for more detail. It is from one of the best reviewers on that board, and an 8 out of 10 from him is a very good score.
"Well then, let's go for another breakthrough, after yesterday having one of the most memorable nights with a GP, Paloma, forgetting some previous baths, I went to trust with Ella Secret, shows her face at PP, which gives an idea What are we going to do, chat via WhatsApp where he says that oral is his specialty, where I, armed as a champion, say that oral to her is also my specialty. Appointment and go to bingo, 10 minutes before the scheduled time says that it will be 5 minutes late, which only took 3 of those 5 minutes. I go up, first impression, very good, a woman without being beautiful, she's pretty, her body completely toned, long black hair, open smile, not a single stretch mark, bikini line, full chest, but all of her Riginha. Talk, I give the money beforehand on my own initiative, I went to baths, I come back, she approaches me and starts with a few flounders, she praises and says: good kiss, who kisses well usually sucks well, to which I reply: I hope so, let's see (confidence was not so high anymore). Still standing, she starts to go down my body with kisses and goes to get closer to the boy, I stop her, pull her up and say, me first. She laughs and lies on the bed I run over her belly with kisses, and I go straight to the girl, minete very soft and calm, she praises and likes it, she goes to mine with faith, she already completely with her hips raised, she comes and says, he's the first portuguese to make me come with his mouth, and I reply, you mustn't be here for a long time, to which she replies, if I wasn't here my boyfriend would be fucked, I'm here for me, really am I listening to this?. She asks to reciprocate, analyzes Júnior and gentlemen sometimes it goes slow, sometimes it goes fast, always with suction and all the way to the bottom without complaints and on her own initiative, without a doubt one of the best orals that I have, without a doubt, she sucked with desire, I realized that she likes it even to give oral and to see the other person almost bursting, it was not the case but tell him the will and said: Ella, maybe it's better to stop because we also have other equally good things to do and I don't want to finish right now, I noticed that she was glad to think I was almost there. Put a condom on and come on top of me, when it's tight, it's not tight but contraction on her part, which does it very well, it starts pumping fast and I was already expecting it, I hold my ass and slow down and put it on well inside to which she sighs and I say: enjoy it more. She smiles and goes with the wave, she gets off me and puts herself on 4, I noticed the time control here because she pressed tlm to check the time, puts herself on 4 and just goes to her head, she wants everything but I don't, I want to play with door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they were squeezing me completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths, I want to play with the door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they had me to squeeze completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths, I want to play with the door and so I stayed for a few seconds until I started to put it inside, I couldn't take it long and when I say I'm about to come she makes even more contraction and it was a very good feeling, a grip as if they had me to squeeze completely. She gives paper to take out the condom, asks if I want to take a bath, I say yes, she praises my ass, I didn't really understand the purpose or the fit in the conversation, I go to baths.
I come back, seen, while seen we talk, she talks a little about her 5 min of conversation and it's late.
Ella is a cool chavala, when I left I sent a message thanking her for the time as I always do, the way of talking before and after being with her changed, more affectionate and more ready to respond, which in a way is a good sign asking for the next one if possible stay 1 h because I had imagined some things to do with myself. I felt that Ella's sympathy can quickly turn into someone frowning and cold if someone or something doesn't please her, other than that I think it can evolve in the future. I don't think bossy or "take my pork" style will get away with it.
Leaves the temple with 8 values".
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2722870]
From the list below, if you are okay with hotel outcall to your room, you have plenty to choose from in your desired categories. But unfortunately, like all over the world, the 18-21 year old little knockout girl is becoming more difficult to find. If you want to take one for the team, two meet your criteria from a picture perspective, but we have no reviews to gauge the authenticity of the pictures, age and performance. You won't find as many natural blondes in Portugal as in other countries.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/[/URL]
For ladies in your general category who have favorable reviews (some more favorable than others).
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-lima/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/laura-neto/[/URL]
As you can read below, Soraia has some quirks and some guys like her a lot better than other have. If you like young and not self-confident, she might be perfect.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
This lady is in college and has a very good review, but has a little more weight through the hips than you might want.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
You are going a few years over your target with these ladies, especially with Carlota who is in her 30's despite the lack of updates on the website, but she has been EP's top performer for a long time.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-dalmeida/[/URL]
And while clearly not white, Joana is another top performer, and gets favorable notes regarding speaking English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
All of them are BBBJ, and Escort Privada communicates in English for scheduling. Plenty to keep you occupied for a short trip.[/QUOTE]Soraia sounds interesting, but based on previous reports her face is quite plain. The 2 older girls you linked have links showing a much younger age. This makes me more hesitant to actively choose Lisbon. Plus I understand most photos are heavily photoshopped which is a real shame.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2723053]
And a note to our new friend Skepti10, these three ladies are 30-40 years old, so they are out of his desired age range.[/QUOTE]Appreciate the advice M, saved me from a potentially very mediocre long weekend getaway! If we ever meet, first few drinks are on me.
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Nudist beaches near Lisbon!
Hi all,
Did any one know or visit good nudist beaches near Lisbon, I think it will good idea to spend sometimes on beach, and did it will good for solo traveller, also what can do, so any recommendations?
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Ep
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2721010]To the best of my knowledge, Aurora Alfaiate does not have any reviews yet.
The second one, Jade Queiroz, got a horrible 1 out of 10 review on the local board, which was confirmed by another poster. She is not, definitely not, someone you want to see.
Vera, Eva, and Rita, the last three on your list, have received mostly mediocre reviews.
For the face and body style you seem to be interested in, Penelope Garcia of Escort Privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/penelope-garcia/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]Penelope Garcia isn't available anymore. She left EP!!
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[QUOTE=Jeohos74;2723345]Hi all,
Did any one know or visit good nudist beaches near Lisbon, I think it will good idea to spend sometimes on beach, and did it will good for solo traveller, also what can do, so any recommendations?[/QUOTE]The answer to that is "it depends. ".
For sure example, Costa de Caprica -- which is basically south of Tagus, Metro Lisbon area, is kind of naturist, kind of topless and kind of not either. It's many miles of sand, so it depends on what part you go to.
Officially, 9 or 10 beaches are full naturist. You can Google that.
Unofficially, most beaches are at least topless. The rule being the more isolated the beach, the more likely it is topless. So near Lisbon, Guincho and Apple Beach are definitely not. But Praia de Urso -- a 2 km hike from Cabo de Roca -- is not just topless, but where half the Apartadox photoshoots set at the beach are done.
The other half are done at Costa de Caprica.
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Nude beaches
[URL]https://www.lisbonbeachesguide.com/nude-beaches-in-lisbon-portugal.html[/URL]
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Opinion on foreigner girls advertising in Lisbon
Dear friends from ISG -- this is my first post here, and I come here for your wisdom. What should one think of ads such as this:
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/elle/415116/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sabrina/416936/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lorena/404441/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lenny/434755/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/albina/368062/[/URL]
These are obviously extremely attractive women, but they seem to be far from the wonderful Portuguese reality, and it makes me wonder if they might be part of a scam, or a weird international network that I would like to avoid. Also the answers via text are usually rude and dismissive, and if I was thinking with the right head I would probably give up. What do you think? Thank you!
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[QUOTE=MultiLove;2724036]Dear friends from ISG -- this is my first post here, and I come here for your wisdom. What should one think of ads such as this:
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/elle/415116/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sabrina/416936/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lorena/404441/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/lenny/434755/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/albina/368062/[/URL]
These are obviously extremely attractive women, but they seem to be far from the wonderful Portuguese reality, and it makes me wonder if they might be part of a scam, or a weird international network that I would like to avoid. Also the answers via text are usually rude and dismissive, and if I was thinking with the right head I would probably give up. What do you think? Thank you![/QUOTE]They appear to be fake ads with fake pictures, given the bizarre phone numbers that do not appear on the local review board. These scams are very simple and often occur on eurogirlsescorts and massage republic, which have some real ads and some fake ads. They have an arrangement with one or two Lisbon escorts who would tropically get 100-150 euros an hour. When you book one of these 200-250 per hour ladies, a text message is sent to the Lisbon escort, who fulfills the appointment and gets the larger fee than she usually obtains. She will look nothing like the photo, and she may or may not perform the listed services. She remits some of the fee to the group that took out the ad.
With pages and pages of recommendations in this thread, I am curious as to why you would post this?
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2724159]They appear to be fake ads with fake pictures, given the bizarre phone numbers that do not appear on the local review board. These scams are very simple and often occur on eurogirlsescorts and massage republic, which have some real ads and some fake ads. They have an arrangement with one or two Lisbon escorts who would tropically get 100-150 euros an hour. When you book one of these 200-250 per hour ladies, a text message is sent to the Lisbon escort, who fulfills the appointment and gets the larger fee than she usually obtains. She will look nothing like the photo, and she may or may not perform the listed services. She remits some of the fee to the group that took out the ad.
With pages and pages of recommendations in this thread, I am curious as to why you would post this?[/QUOTE]Dearest Mongerer, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my question. While disappointing, your answer helps out a lot with setting me straight and allowing me to no longer think about these ads as exciting.
As to why I would post this, it's as simple as that: I was probably not thinking with the right head, and have been dangerously close to making the mistake of "seeing for myself", as these women are quite incredible and so different from, as you said, scores of pages of reports that didn't mention them even once (which is obviously a red flag which I was conveniently "forgetting."
So I am sorry if I have disrupted the normal flow of things or if I made a "faux pas" as my first post, but I do think it was a relevant and definitely honest question. Which answer will hopefully aid other fellow Mongers like myself.
Thank you again, and all the best!
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[QUOTE=MultiLove;2724195]Dearest Mongerer, thank you so much for taking the time to reply to my question. While disappointing, your answer helps out a lot with setting me straight and allowing me to no longer think about these ads as exciting.
As to why I would post this, it's as simple as that: I was probably not thinking with the right head, and have been dangerously close to making the mistake of "seeing for myself", as these women are quite incredible and so different from, as you said, scores of pages of reports that didn't mention them even once (which is obviously a red flag which I was conveniently "forgetting."[/QUOTE]Lisbon just doesn't have the well-heeled traveling foreign businessman, or the wealthy locals, to justify the presence of very expensive touring escorts who eschew the typical Johns (like financial capitals such as London, Geneva, Zurich, etc. Do). And given that those ads are on a site known for scams, I do think they are in fact scams.
A defect of course with the review system is that by the time a lady gets a lot of great reviews, she is often much older than her pictures indicate.
If you want to take one for the team with an unreviewed young hottie, here is the website to choose from. The girls are real, and so is the sex, even though the pictures are often airbrushed. So carefully studying the videos helps.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
Her reviews are becoming a little bit more mixed, but there is little dispute that this is the best young Playboy-Bunny type prototype in Lisbon, and she does very liberal services for a knockout.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
The complaints are that she is more expensive than other escorts, and that she becomes less motivated toward the end of a session. Maybe someone should try feeding her another 50 euros 75% of the way through the session and see if that helps.
And of course, it would be great if someone took one for the team with the Escort Privada lady with the stunning pictures but no reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Margarida-Vaz-6300.html[/URL]
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[QUOTE=MultiLove;2724195]aSo I am sorry if I have disrupted the normal flow of things or if I made a "faux pas" as my first post, but I do think it was a relevant and definitely honest question. Which answer will hopefully aid other fellow Mongers like myself.
Thank you again, and all the best![/QUOTE]No worries. Do you need a round-up of reliable advertiser sites?
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Marcya Villar back?
It seems that Marcya Villar is back in business, but didn't reactivate her ad. She changed her WhatsApp profile photo and has an online sign on.
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[QUOTE=IanMoone;2724837]It seems that Marcya Villar is back in business, but didn't reactivate her ad. She changed her WhatsApp profile photo and has an online sign on.[/QUOTE]That is typical for a lady of her caliber She probably told the clients she likes she is working again directly. Ladies like her only advertise and "open the books" when their preferred clients don't keep them busy enough.
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Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?
I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.
So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.
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[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?
I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.
So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]Apartadox is an advertising site that is separate from Escort Privada. EP ladies use it for advertising just like independents do.
There is zero reason to believe either Escort Privada or Apartadox would suddenly go down, but if you don't use EP, here are among the many Lisbon independents with good reviews. Not saying every review is great, but they all have at least some outstanding reviews. They are in no particular order.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Eloa-Sanchez-6532.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428.html[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/sara-4/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL]
Every legal age, race and body style is included in that list. I think they are all BBBJ, in addition of course to offering covered full service.
And Lisbon has a well-known massage parlor where full service is available by asking for the Relaxing Massage.
[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
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Far from it. EP is the main outcall agency, but there are several independents who specialize in outcall service, many more incall ladies who are willing to do outcall and charge a fair price, and a substantial incall scene.
[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?
I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.
So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Desin;2725173]Is Portugal based on this one Escort agency (Escort Privado / Apartadox), so that if it would dissipate suddenly, the traveller would be left with desperate measures to find equal company for his leisure?
I read this and Barcelona's threads, and it seems that girls of this quality are 200 euros in Barcelona. But there are also multiple agencies operating.
So far I haven't understood more from the Lissabon scene that this EP is the thing. Do locals have a site they contact and book amateur / semi-pro girls from? Like in Spain.[/QUOTE]I am always completely confused as to what a semi-pro girl is, or at least what people think it is.
All, or the vast majority, of EP escorts either go to college or have "other" jobs besides escorting. Some actually arrive for outcall directly from those other jobs, such as retail or hospitality / restaurant, according to many reviews. And many of the younger ladies juggle escorting between classes.
I suspect the same is true for most independents.
And the Lisbon Seeking Arrangement reports have been favorable.
Can you tell us what you mean by a semi-pro.
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I agree, it's a bit of a tricky term, since neither have I heard a definition of it.
I would consider an amateur to be a girl who is "trying out" paid arrangements, or who is ready to accept it every now and then. After she has done the deed enough not to turn back from it, but instead of taking it as her more or less regular way of earning extra cash and she has done this for enough time, I would consider her a semi-pro. She perhaps enjoys sex so much that she can enjoy it with even new clients, or at least the regular ones. She maybe has a solid base of regulars, or advertises whenever she needs to resupply them. But she also has something real going on her live as well, she is studying for a profession or has one already. She is not totally dependent on the deed. But, to keep on her current level of spending, she has to earn money by this way. Also, I would suppose that the customer, if he is well-experienced, would make a mental note of differentiation between an amateur and semi-pro. That one would notice from the way she acts that this person knows what she is doing and is fine with it. Preferrably even good in it, if not at least average.
And a semi-pro can be differentiated from the pro also by that gut feeling you get, when one thinks that "I don't want to associate with a pro. It just doesn't have it. " A semi-pro might still have it, if she ever had.
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[QUOTE=Desin;2725494]I agree, it's a bit of a tricky term, since neither have I heard a definition of it.
I would consider an amateur to be a girl who is "trying out" paid arrangements, or who is ready to accept it every now and then. After she has done the deed enough not to turn back from it, but instead of taking it as her more or less regular way of earning extra cash and she has done this for enough time, I would consider her a semi-pro. She perhaps enjoys sex so much that she can enjoy it with even new clients, or at least the regular ones. She maybe has a solid base of regulars, or advertises whenever she needs to resupply them. But she also has something real going on her live as well, she is studying for a profession or has one already. She is not totally dependent on the deed. But, to keep on her current level of spending, she has to earn money by this way. Also, I would suppose that the customer, if he is well-experienced, would make a mental note of differentiation between an amateur and semi-pro. That one would notice from the way she acts that this person knows what she is doing and is fine with it. Preferrably even good in it, if not at least average.
And a semi-pro can be differentiated from the pro also by that gut feeling you get, when one thinks that "I don't want to associate with a pro. It just doesn't have it. " A semi-pro might still have it, if she ever had.[/QUOTE]I think every lady at EP and most, if not all, of the independents on Apartadox meets your definition of a semi-pro. As do most independent escorts in Portugal and Spain who charge a relatively premium price.
The concept you are describing is a Third World situation, and Iberia is not Third World. It is perhaps why Barcelona Vice is so aggressive on shutting down Asian massage parlors, which also don't exist to any significant extent in Portugal.
There is indeed a big difference between seeing a dirt poor lady who has never had educational or vocational opportunities outside of sex work, which is indeed often a sad experience. A customer certainly gets more enjoyment from seeing a lady who is the opposite of that, which is why so many on the Seeking Arrangement thread talk about the S. A. Ladies they see in Third World countries not being "hookers". The point I always try to make is that most independent and upper-end agency escorts in the First World have always been the same as the S. A. Ladies. Hell, if you want to go to dinner with any of the recommended Lisbon ladies, just make sure she speaks enough of the same language that you do, and pay her for the time you buy. I think it is the same experience in the First World as doing Seeking Arrangement, with less chance of getting a dud. But that is just my opinion.
Bottom line is that Portugal is a First World country, and you just can't apply Third World concepts to it.
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Some clubs
Hey, I've heard about some club called as "Heaven Can Wait" - can someone share their experience from such clubs? I do not have any idea about what's the idea of these clubs, and I don't know what to expect. What are they?
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Any review on Tita Ipanema:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]
And Vanessa Prado:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]
Thanks!
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[QUOTE=ManInWhite;2727538]Any review on Tita Ipanema:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]
And Vanessa Prado:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]
Thanks![/QUOTE]Vanessa Prado's ad is brand new. I don't see any local review board activity yet under that name or phone number.
Tita Ipenema doesn't have any reviews despite being with EP for quite some time. Her profile lists Oral Without, which hopefully is the case. For greater certainly of BBBJ, it is better to pick a lady who either has CIM in her profile, or is reviewed as doing BBBJ. Several posts below contain a list of recommended EP ladies, all of whom do BBBJ. While we all appreciate you taking one for the team, if choosing an EP lady, I would recommend that you choose from the list.
For instance Maria Conceicao has a very similar profile picture as Tita, more service offerings, and most importantly a lot of positive reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
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Asian parlors
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2725501]I think every lady at EP and most, if not all, of the independents on Apartadox meets your definition of a semi-pro. As do most independent escorts in Portugal and Spain who charge a relatively premium price.
The concept you are describing is a Third World situation, and Iberia is not Third World. It is perhaps why Barcelona Vice is so aggressive on shutting down Asian massage parlors, which also don't exist to any significant extent in Portugal.[/QUOTE]To what extent do they exist and are they cheaper? I'm a sucker for a good massage with he in one form or another. I visited Asian places in Paris, Berlin, Barcelona and Hamburg, and I always left satisfied (cost me under 100 euro, although it was a few years ago). I still remember an incredible tantric in Hamburg of all places; it was one of the 2 greatest tantric experiences in why life. Going to Lisbon and Porto soon and could use the information. Thanks!
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[QUOTE=ManInWhite;2727538]Any review on Tita Ipanema:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/tita-ipanema/[/URL]
And Vanessa Prado:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/call-girl-Vanessa-Prado-6898.html[/URL]
Thanks![/QUOTE]Speak of the devil, Vanessa Prado just got a review on the local board. She is working in Picoas, got 7 out of 10 from a local who praised her kissing and BBBJ.
The only thing to add to Mongerer's accounting of Tita Ipanema is that the current crop of pics are from her third ad. The first two had her face, and if you Google around you might find those pics posted on another ad site.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2727552]Vanessa Prado's ad is brand new. I don't see any local review board activity yet under that name or phone number.
Tita Ipenema doesn't have any reviews despite being with EP for quite some time. Her profile lists Oral Without, which hopefully is the case. For greater certainly of BBBJ, it is better to pick a lady who either has CIM in her profile, or is reviewed as doing BBBJ. Several posts below contain a list of recommended EP ladies, all of whom do BBBJ. While we all appreciate you taking one for the team, if choosing an EP lady, I would recommend that you choose from the list.
For instance Maria Conceicao has a very similar profile picture as Tita, more service offerings, and most importantly a lot of positive reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback! I was looking more for a white skinned / tanned girl!
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2727845]To what extent do they exist and are they cheaper? I'm a sucker for a good massage with he in one form or another. I visited Asian places in Paris, Berlin, Barcelona and Hamburg, and I always left satisfied (cost me under 100 euro, although it was a few years ago). I still remember an incredible tantric in Hamburg of all places; it was one of the 2 greatest tantric experiences in why life. Going to Lisbon and Porto soon and could use the information. Thanks![/QUOTE]For some reason, Asian Massage Parlors have just never been a big part of the Lisbon scene.
Fortunately, Lisbon has a good massage parlor scene featuring locals and Brazilians, many of whom speak some English.
Maybe Portugal just doesn't give as many visas to Asians, particularly those from Southeast Asia, as other countries in Europe.
And Lisbon's incall scene, especially the massage parlors, is just not that expensive. So Asians probably want to set up shop in other cities.
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Also any reviews on this website:
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon[/URL]
Just found it today but don't see much reviews here about it.
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I am new here and I have read through the last posts. Thanks for the great input.
What I didn't find is recommendation for some ebony / black girls apart from Joana Montenegro. Dou you have any recommendations / reviews? I found the following online:
1. Emy.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Emy-6825.html[/URL]
2. Carina Sofia.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carina-Sofia-6688.html[/URL]
3. Jessie.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Jessie-6743.html[/URL]
4. Miranda Silva.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Miranda-Silva-4409.html[/URL]
5. Duda Zoe.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Duda-Zoe-5065.html[/URL]
6. Ruby Rose.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Ruby-Rose-6934.html[/URL]
7. Aysha Gourgel.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Aysha-Gourgel-5060.html[/URL]
8. Naomi Campbell.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Naomi-Campbell-5119.html[/URL]
9. Raquel Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Raquel-Reis-5919.html[/URL]
10. Clara Sampaio.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Clara-Sampaio-4114.html[/URL]
11. Zara Oliveira.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Zarah-Oliveira-6611.html[/URL]
Thank. Would really appreciate it.
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[QUOTE=ManInWhite;2728061]Also any reviews on this website:
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon[/URL]
Just found it today but don't see much reviews here about it.[/QUOTE]There was a forum about this advertising site years ago on the local board.
Someone identified a number of fake pictures being used, and those same pictures being used for escorts using different names in different cities.
No one had much interest after that. Mist websites like that one contract with several ladies in Lisbon (and other cities), and dispatch a lady to your location who will look nothing like tge picture. She likely works under a different name and at a lower price in the "reviewed" Lisbon market.
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Not all of them are reviewed on the local board.
Of the ones that are Miranda Silva is likely the safest bet. She uses the Areiro Spa for some if her incalls, which is a well thought of place. She is BBBJ and received a 7 out of 10 in her only review.
Ruby Rose has gone by some different names, but gets an average of 7 out of 10 in her reviews, some better than that, some worse. She appears to be BBBJ from her reviews. She would be a close second to Miranda Silva if choosing from your list.
I think that Joana Montenegro who you mentioned would be the better choice. Joanna has gotten all fantastic reviews on three different reputable reviews sites.
Going back to your list, Clara Sampaio got a 7 out 10, mostly for performance, since the reviewer did not find her pretty. She was reviewed as BBBJ.
Duda Zoe and Aysha Gourgel were reviewed as CBJ ladies. Their reviews were generally 7 out of 10 or so, other than not being BBBJ. In fairness, Aysha only has one review, so it is not clear if the reviewer requested CBJ. So if you contact Aysha, you might consider asking if she does BBBJ (although her one review was not that great in terms of services other than oral.
Raquel Reis gets consistently bad reviews on the local review board.
I can't find reviews of the other ladies on your list on the local board.
[QUOTE=Proll;2728531]I am new here and I have read through the last posts. Thanks for the great input.
What I didn't find is recommendation for some ebony / black girls apart from Joana Montenegro. Dou you have any recommendations / reviews? I found the following online:
1. Emy.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Emy-6825.html[/URL]
2. Carina Sofia.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carina-Sofia-6688.html[/URL]
3. Jessie.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Jessie-6743.html[/URL]
4. Miranda Silva.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Miranda-Silva-4409.html[/URL]
5. Duda Zoe.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Duda-Zoe-5065.html[/URL]
6. Ruby Rose.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Ruby-Rose-6934.html[/URL]
7. Aysha Gourgel.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Aysha-Gourgel-5060.html[/URL]
8. Naomi Campbell.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Naomi-Campbell-5119.html[/URL]
9. Raquel Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Raquel-Reis-5919.html[/URL]
10. Clara Sampaio.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Clara-Sampaio-4114.html[/URL]
11. Zara Oliveira.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Zarah-Oliveira-6611.html[/URL]
Thank. Would really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks a lot for your effort.
Do you have other recommendations as well in the ebony / black sector?
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[QUOTE=Proll;2728531]What I didn't find is recommendation for some ebony / black girls apart from Joana Montenegro. Dou you have any recommendations / reviews? [/QUOTE]You probably missed the best of them: Bia Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091.html[/URL] . She's a late 20's / early 30's Brazilian girl with big, black, beautiful eyes and a radiant smile. Great body, medium delicious boobs and willing to provide the best sex experience. A-Level, BBBJ, DFK, DATY, you name it.
Also in Docemassagem as Ana Santos: [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL].
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Good FR
Fellow ISGians,
I want to share my FR on Lara Lima. It was a good experience. She is a bit older than the photos show, but she has a slim body. Breasts are not so large, so keep that in mind. Very friendly, polite, and good natured, and has a nice face as well but her body in general is very tattooed. Although the site says she does OWO, she did only CBJ, but I liked the GFE in general, so I chose to ignore this. She speaks a little English, which is what made the experience nice. She does not kiss much, but she will let you DATY. Overall, despite the cons, I recommend her. 7/10.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2727959]For some reason, Asian Massage Parlors have just never been a big part of the Lisbon scene.
Fortunately, Lisbon has a good massage parlor scene featuring locals and Brazilians, many of whom speak some English.
Maybe Portugal just doesn't give as many visas to Asians, particularly those from Southeast Asia, as other countries in Europe.
And Lisbon's incall scene, especially the massage parlors, is just not that expensive. So Asians probably want to set up shop in other cities.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback!
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Bia Santos and Elena Silva
Thank you, Kama LEão, Mongerer88 and ExExpatriate!
I managed to come to Lisbon and I met Bia Santos and Elena Silva. Both were excellent. I will write individual reports in the next days, but I can recommend them both wholeheartedly, albeit for slightly different reasons as will become evident from my reviews.
Both are friendly, very welcoming, naughty and sexy. Both can take an anal pounding like a champ.
More soon. In the meantime, thanks again for the recommendations.
[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2703277]Dear Kama LEo, Mongerer and ExExpatriate.
Wow! Many thanks for such extensive and detailed recommendations! I will make sure to meet at least a couple of these girls when I come to Lisbon in a month.
Really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]
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And Gabriela Sanchez
[QUOTE=MarcoCapa;2729594]I managed to come to Lisbon and I met Bia Santos and Elena Silva..[/QUOTE]Very different and both really great!
Another recent find is the MILF Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Gabriela-Sanchez-4468.html[/URL] . A petite, Brazilian self confessed 47 year old lady (but with a very younger body and NO silcone added!) Gabriela is a pure GFE specimen who doesn't refuse to kiss and kiss and kiss, will suck you dry (sweet and slow BBBJTC) til you explode in her mouth, goes wild with DATY (occasionally she may surprise you with a squirt) and offers A-Level.
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Lisbon
Hey why'all I'm visiting the Azores in a few weeks but I will be visiting the mainland for a few days. I want to check out Lisbon.
Are there any brothels or massage parlors worth visiting? I'm seeing in this forum that outcalls / in calls are mainly talked about but I love going somewhere professional or proper for the story. Barca was great for that they had so much I'm wondering if Lisbon has something similar.
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YoungGun3393,
Lisbon really doesn't have traditional brothels any longer. It once did, but the biggest one (Michelle's) was shut down and the rest of them gradually disappeared.
Barcelona has a different legal system, and formally legalizes brothels through its hotel statutes.
Escorts in Lisbon are legal, even though brothels are not, and we try to bring as much information as possible to the thread to allow for intelligent choices. Apartadox has videos that help somewhat in evaluating a lady.
Unrelated to the information above, but I wanted to mention that Camilla Pereira received a highly recommended review on the big American review board from a tourist who travelled to Lisbon. He confirmed the authenticity of the pictures and her listed service offerings. She has also received a favorable review on the local Lisbon board.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2730492]Hey why'all I'm visiting the Azores in a few weeks but I will be visiting the mainland for a few days. I want to check out Lisbon.
Are there any brothels or massage parlors worth visiting? I'm seeing in this forum that outcalls / in calls are mainly talked about but I love going somewhere professional or proper for the story. Barca was great for that they had so much I'm wondering if Lisbon has something similar.[/QUOTE]Profiting from someone else's sex work is basically illegal, so agencies and spas must use dodges and indirect methods to operate. They need plausible deniability. The sex worker herself is fully in the clear, just not the madam.
So, you will find many incall independents are very professional and have nice apartments for their business. Insofar as spas are concerned, do you need FS or is nuru with a HJ good enough?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2730700]So, you will find many incall independents are very professional and have nice apartments for their business. Insofar as spas are concerned, do you need FS or is nuru with a HJ good enough?[/QUOTE]Either works!
I saw that there are a few websites, I guess I'll check them out.
Side question: not sure if anyone can help but are there any spots or tips for the Azores? Specifically Ilha Sao Miguel / ponte Delgada.
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[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2730781]Either works!
I saw that there are a few websites, I guess I'll check them out.
Side question: not sure if anyone can help but are there any spots or tips for the Azores? Specifically Ilha Sao Miguel / ponte Delgada.[/QUOTE]Sorry, can't help you with Azores. I don't follow the local chatter about that area and have never been there.
Delirium Spa has been getting good marks from the local board. Their shtick is body to body massage with HJ ending All their ladies have photo essays on somassagens, but this is their own website:
[URL]https://deliriospa.pt/[/URL]
Many other formal massage spas may or may not offer FS. Sometimes it is their policy not to. Sometimes it is left to the discretion of the lady herself. It's tricky to navigate, and if you are short on time, I understand a reluctance to take chances on not getting what you want.
So, to that end: what kind of lady are you looking for in an independent incall?
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[QUOTE=Proll;2728531]I am new here and I have read through the last posts. Thanks for the great input.
What I didn't find is recommendation for some ebony / black girls apart from Joana Montenegro. Dou you have any recommendations / reviews? I found the following online:
1. Emy.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Emy-6825.html[/URL]
2. Carina Sofia.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carina-Sofia-6688.html[/URL]
3. Jessie.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Jessie-6743.html[/URL]
4. Miranda Silva.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Miranda-Silva-4409.html[/URL]
5. Duda Zoe.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Duda-Zoe-5065.html[/URL]
6. Ruby Rose.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Ruby-Rose-6934.html[/URL]
7. Aysha Gourgel.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Aysha-Gourgel-5060.html[/URL]
8. Naomi Campbell.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Naomi-Campbell-5119.html[/URL]
9. Raquel Reis.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Raquel-Reis-5919.html[/URL]
10. Clara Sampaio.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Clara-Sampaio-4114.html[/URL]
11. Zara Oliveira.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Zarah-Oliveira-6611.html[/URL]
Thank. Would really appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I asked on the local board when you posted this about Emy. She had changed her name and a poster confirmed that previous reviews of another lady are indeed those of the lady now known as Emy. She has two reviews under her previous name from experienced reviewers, bit being 7's out of 10. The sessions, including the BBBJ, were described as solid but unspectacular. The fascinating waist to butt ratio was confirmed in the reviews. Here is the translated version of one of the reviews:
"A bittersweet TD.
I arranged with Joia via whatsapp, where she always responded in a friendly and helpful way. Arriving at the apartment at the foot of Saldanha, I wait for you to open the door for me.
I go up and am greeted by a beautiful African specimen, as seen in the photos, but with a different wig (I hate it when they wear wigs) Always friendly, she greets me with a smile and asks if I want to go to the bathroom, with such an accent Angolan saw that it was difficult to understand what she was saying, I had to ask her to repeat what she was saying a few times.
After freshening up, I go back to the spacious room, but it could have been better lit. Here, Joia presents me with a beautiful dance and touches me, how horny, this is going to be a big party today, I thought.
We went to bed, where, still dancing, she took off the dental floss she had, and there I went, I took that ass, I laid her on the bed and went to swaddle her ass with my mouth, well washed, odorless, even impeccable, with her rolling in my face and mouth, we spent a good 20 minutes on this, I've never been so long giving a girl an oral, and I'm not a big fan, but I loved this one.
Then she gives me an oral, competent, drooling, no and asks if I want to fuck, I say yes and goes upstairs. I didn't last long, and this is where it gets worse. As soon as I arrived, the coexistence practically ended. We talked for a while, and then she got on her cell phone and texted a friend. And so, an hour passed, a big first 25 minutes, followed by. Nothing.
I'm quite capable of returning, but only in the half-hour mode. 1 h hour doesn't catch me anymore. Which is a pity, because really, if the girl was a professional (I even believe she's only 19 years old, from the conversation she really gives a pita air) and if she kissed on the mouth, she'd be there. Therefore, who knows, in the second opportunity that it gives him, he will not be redeemed. ".
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Visits?
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2730871]So, to that end: what kind of lady are you looking for in an independent incall?[/QUOTE]All kinds really. Would def like to try Europeans girls as there aren't many where I'm from. Got any reliable ones?
I am seeing that on Apartado X some girls post that they'll "accept invitations to go to the Azores."
How does that work? Do we have to pay their way or do they come willingly. I generally don't pay deposits bc they don't follow through. Any details would help thanks.
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Expensively. Whenever I have seen such a thing described, it has involved the fee equivalent of a few overnights. It's like hiring a girlfriend for part or all of the time. I expect you would be flying then out, possibly covering their hotel room, and paying for a double digit number of hours
Leaving out outcall escorts and the Africans, Brazilians and other South Americans really narrows it down.
Elena Silva is a Ukrainian matron, but has a great reputation:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Elena-Silva-3018.html[/URL]
Beatriz Resende is Portuguese, a MILF courtesan and generally gets high marks:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Beatriz-Resende-4936.html[/URL]
Jennifer / Eva Sanchez is also Portuguese just plain all-around hot:
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
And Aurora Vaz is a well-liked, former EP girl who now does incall. Also Portuguese:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1082[/URL]
[QUOTE=YounGun3393;2731936]All kinds really. Would def like to try Europeans girls as there aren't many where I'm from. Got any reliable ones?
I am seeing that on Apartado X some girls post that they'll "accept invitations to go to the Azores."
How does that work? Do we have to pay their way or do they come willingly. I generally don't pay deposits bc they don't follow through. Any details would help thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Margarida Vaz and Maju Rossi / Isadora Marques
Here is an important one to add to the Escort Privada recommended list. Margarida Vaz.
And one to add to the recommended independents. Maju Rossi.
The recommendations are based on recent reviews from the local board.
Margarida Vaz got her highly anticipated first review from an experienced reviewer.
The same reviewer also reviewed Maju Rossi. Maju has gotten several reviews. Honestly her first one was bad due to an upsell, but they improved to all 8's and 9's out of 10 after that.
The importance of these two is that they are younger ladies (very young in the case of Margarida), and reviewed as young looking in the case of Maju.
A valid criticism of review boards is that they favor the older ladies. Sure a lady might have 10 years of great reviews, but that might also mean she is 10 years older than the pictures.
And worldwide, there are fewer 18-22 year olds entering sex work than in past years.
Margarida Vaz is a relatively new EP lady who has stunning pictures that indicate she is a smoking hot older teen. If she stays with EP for ten years, those same pictures will still be used. So we need a review like the translated one below to see if she is real, and if she does her advertised service offerings. And fortunately it is a yes to both.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Margarida-Vaz-6300.html[/URL]
Here is the translated review that gives the details:
"Technical data:
Name: Margarida Vaz (Guidinha).
Nationality: Portuguese.
Age: 22+-.
Height: +1.67.
Skin: Treated, silky and beautiful: smt117.
Face: Beautiful. A pretty little tuguinha (a big upgrade from Jessica Athayde).
Eyes: Gorgeous green
Hair: Blonde (painted – but looks good with the outfit).
Body: Well made. No belly. As in the photos. Nothing is super perfect but I liked the set. All in harmony with an already tanned white skin. Mermaid.
Chest: Natural, small and upturned. Reactive and soft. Very good in the hands.
Rabo: It looks good in the set. It's not very big but it's not small either. Could have sharper curves, like a pear.
Xaxinha: With some hairs next to the slit. It is fine. Smelly and tight.
Oral: 8/10, does it without but without much rhythm and will. However, he is competent when he realizes that he is finishing. And let the mouth stay for a few seconds to suck the milk. That angel face with the baby in its mouth is unforgettable. Great.
Vaginal: 7/10. Likes to take 4 and seems to have some pleasure. But there is occasional control of the presence of condoms.
Anal: -10 was not a topic.
Beija: 5/10. Prevents. Just a few ticks here and there. In the end, I gave her a real kiss.
Attitude: 8/10. In general, she is very sweet and friendly. But it was a bit rushed in time management. She left 15 m ahead of time.
Hygiene: Impeccable. He showered on entering and on leaving.
Time control: Enough. It is almost always so. You already came. I'm going to bazaar.
Location: Hotel in Lisbon (Expo).
Apartment: N / a.
Bathroom: In the hotel room.
Room: Large bed.
Parking: Hotel.
Price: 150 - 1 h, payment at the beginning on my own initiative. Be careful because she cuts herself in time.
TD 8/10 Despite some time control, the experience of being with a beautiful Portuguese woman, young, all perfect and oral until the end, was fantastic. It's one of those experiences you want to repeat to see if you get to 10 next time. The potential is there. She just wants to.
Description:
Communication / Marking process:
I was in the zone, I called, conditions and location clear. We schedule for a little later. It was ready before the appointed time. A very positive point. She introduced herself with a beautiful smile. With that look (blonde with a face and beautiful eyes) it's easy to fall in love.
Facilities:
Hotel in the EXPO area of 8203;Lisbon with modern facilities.
Physical appearance:
In my opinion, Margarida is the most beautiful Portuguese escort I've ever been with. She's that little girlfriend we all wanted in college. Blonde, doll face, beautiful eyes, and very sweet and calm. A love. The oral to the end is a plus. But it has the potential to be less mechanical and have less control over time. That's how customers are lost.
Hygiene:
She was fragrant and clean. She showered on arrival and departure.
Action:
The oral was shirtless but somewhat mechanized. CIM was worth it.
Vaginal was good but a little controlled.
Didn't kiss with tongue much. Just a few picks. But he let kisses on the beautiful face with which he came into the world.
Final conclusions.
A very pretty tuguita. The GFE we all wanted to have. She won't be perfect in body, but everything about her is well made and harmonious. And these are the most attractive women. But it's not for those who want pure and hard sex despite the CIM. It is for those who want to be with a very beautiful woman with a good conversation. It would be perfect for travel or dinner, for example. .
Pros: Body and beauty.
Cons: Time control".
This same reviewer did a review of independent Maju Rossi, and liked her as well, perhaps even slightly more than Margarida Vaz.
Maju Rossi goes by the name Isadora Marques on Portal Privada.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1299[/URL]
Here is the translated review by this same reviewer of Maju Rossi / Isadore Marques.
Technical data:
Name: Isadora Marques (Isinha).
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: 30+-.
Height: +1.57.
Skin: Treated, silky and beautiful: smt117.
Face: Cute. A very nice brasuca.
Eyes: Large brown and very pretty
Hair: Dark brown well-groomed.
Body: Very attractive. No belly. As in the photos. With a rounded and protruding butt typical of brasuca. A very attractive set. Mermaid.
Chest: Natural, small and upturned. Reactive and soft. Very good in the hands.
Tail: Protruding and round. Good for a pat. Very good.
Xaxinha: Shaved, fragrant and tight.
Oral: 8/10, does it without but and a lot of rhythm and will. From the front looking at the customer is a turn-on. I made it to the end but it was soon spitting out. Must not like.
Vaginal: 7/10. Likes to take 4 and seems to have some pleasure. Some punctual control of the presence of the condom.
Anal: -10 was not the topic.
Beija: 10/10. Tongued and intense. What a wonderful woman.
Attitude: 10/10. Super sweet and friendly. That big smile makes anyone fall in love. You are always trying to please. She gives the little sisters to suck and the xaninha. What does a man want more?
Hygiene: Impeccable. She took a shower on her way in and on her way out.
Time Control: There are always some, but this one was honest. She left the hotel at the agreed time.
Location: Hotel in Lisbon (Expo).
Apartment: N / a.
WC: In the hotel room.
Room: Large bed.
Parking: Hotel.
Price: 120 - 1 h + UBER, payment at the beginning on my own initiative.
TD 9/10 – The experience with Isa was excellent. The oral was competent and until the end. The sensational kisses. The vagina has room for improvement. Hence the 9. Looks great and attitude is super professional. She is a mature and intelligent woman with a teen appearance. And what a look.
Description:
Communication / Marking process:
I was in the zone, I called, conditions and location clear. We schedule for a little later. It was ready by appointment. A very positive point. She introduced herself with a beautiful smile and very well dressed.
Facilities:
Hotel in the EXPO area of 8203;Lisbon with modern facilities.
Physical appearance:
Isadora is, in my opinion, an escort who seeks to be honest with the client. She knows what she wants (money) and how to win the customer. She does a little more than the others in various components (orals and kisses) so the client doesn't forget her and come back again. The whole body, face and personality is very positive. She is not a teen but her body is well cared for, despite some marks on the back of her legs. The ass is super attractive and the natural upturned tits are tempting. The attitude is excellent and she is very sweet and friendly. A find, considering that she is Brazilian.
Hygiene:
She was fragrant and clean. She showered on arrival and departure.
Action:
The oral was shirtless and brutal. Excellent CIM. Too bad I can't just sit there sucking the milk in my mouth. It was then spitting.
Vaginal was good but a little controlled.
Kissed a lot with tongue. And let her kiss the pretty doll face with which she came into the world.
Final conclusions.
A very pretty Zuca, kind of high school sweetheart. Tiny as women want. Very attractive physically and super friendly. Honest with the customer in time and attitude. I liked it a lot and I plan to repeat it when possible. I also got the impression that it can be an excellent travel companion given its maturity and beauty.
Pros: Body and attitude.
Cons: Control in the vaginal".
This reviewer lists her as 30 but looking much younger. Her previous reviews (other than the first one) are four 9's out of 10, and one 8 out of 10, and they list her as being in her early to mid 20's.
Thanks to the reviewer Avenger for doing those reviews of the younger ladies, which is what many johns are seeking, and which is becoming more difficult to find worldwide.
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[QUOTE=ArthurBishop;2712086]The limit is 200 per withdrawal, but you can withdraw a total of 400 per day, at least that have been my experience with foreigner cards from multiple countries.[/QUOTE]Could some money transfer service be used to get past this? Like MoneyGram? (only one I know, haven't ever used these).
Like, send 1000 euros and then one would be able to withdraw it based on one's needs? Maybe use two accounts or a friend, if one is not able to deposit and withdraw from one's own account.
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[QUOTE=Desin;2734523]Could some money transfer service be used to get past this? Like MoneyGram? (only one I know, haven't ever used these).
Like, send 1000 euros and then one would be able to withdraw it based on one's needs? Maybe use two accounts or a friend, if one is not able to deposit and withdraw from one's own account.[/QUOTE]There is Moneygram service in PT, Novo Cambio which is a F / X exchange house represents them, but I am sure that there are other that use their services. As far as I know, once you sent an amount via Moneygram, you have to withdraw the total amount sent, as there is a reference number linked to each transaction. Also, if you have more than one debit or ATM card, you will be able to withdraw at least €800 per day, €400 in each card in 2 separate transactions. That has been my actual experience in the PT.
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[QUOTE=ArthurBishop;2734594]There is Moneygram service in PT, Novo Cambio which is a F / X exchange house represents them, but I am sure that there are other that use their services. As far as I know, once you sent an amount via Moneygram, you have to withdraw the total amount sent, as there is a reference number linked to each transaction. Also, if you have more than one debit or ATM card, you will be able to withdraw at least 800 per day, 400 in each card in 2 separate transactions. That has been my actual experience in the PT.[/QUOTE]Do you have experience with dual debit / credit cards? I have one of those, another debit card which is linked to the same bank account (it's such that it updates the balance without delay) and one separate credit card. Oh, and I just noticed that I had an additional Visa debit card on top of my audio speaker. So I'd suspect that makes at least three valid transactions, max five.
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Portuguese vs Brazilian
I was in Athens last month (check my report on the Athens forum) and I had a great experience with a Brazilian working girl. Everyone seems to rave about Brazilian women and the super GFE. Therefore I have booked a trip to Lisbon. (Brazil itself is a much longer flight for me.) In Lisbon I will have choice between booking Portuguese women and Brazilian women. My question is: Are the Portuguese as passionate as the Brazilians? Does their common language and culture make them about the same? Or should I stick with what I know works: Brazilian?
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[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2734949]I was in Athens last month (check my report on the Athens forum) and I had a great experience with a Brazilian working girl. Everyone seems to rave about Brazilian women and the super GFE. Therefore I have booked a trip to Lisbon. (Brazil itself is a much longer flight for me.) In Lisbon I will have choice between booking Portuguese women and Brazilian women. My question is: Are the Portuguese as passionate as the Brazilians? Does their common language and culture make them about the same? Or should I stick with what I know works: Brazilian?[/QUOTE]Yes, the Portuguese are as passionate as the Brazilians. In fact, many locals on the local review board think the touring Brazilians are more transactional, but of course there are exceptions and there are many popular Brazilians.
Perhaps because of the common language, there is not an us versus them attitude between "native-born" Portuguese prostitutes and the Brazilian imports. There is no difference in pricing, nor do the local working girls flock to Twitter Websites and to certain escort agencies like what happens in Germany with respect to blonde-haired, blue-eyed German working girls who charge a lot more than Romanians.
Realistically, native-born Portuguese sex workers speak more English. They take more of it in school than Brazilians, and there are more you. K. Tourists in Portugal than there are American tourists in Brazil. Fortunately in the last few years, the Brazilian import girls have become proficient with WhatsApp, so you can use Google Translate to communicate when necessary.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2734990]Yes, the Portuguese are as passionate as the Brazilians. In fact, many locals on the local review board think the touring Brazilians are more transactional, but of course there are exceptions and there are many popular Brazilians.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for the info! I noticed on [URL]escortprivada.com[/URL] some really beautiful, young and well reviewed Portuguese girls however for one thing I was hesitant because some are very little skinned. I was concerned that there might be some snobbishness. Like because they're white they are too good for this and might be a little cold. However now I feel like giving them a shot.
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Planning a visit to lisbon
I'm planning a visit to Lisbon City soon and I'the like to try some of the locals. Do any of the girls accept bareback sex? I sent a few messages to some of the escortprivada girls to inquire about this option but had no success.
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[QUOTE=Salfordboy;2737336]I'm planning a visit to Lisbon City soon and I'the like to try some of the locals. Do any of the girls accept bareback sex? I sent a few messages to some of the escortprivada girls to inquire about this option but had no success.[/QUOTE]Lisbon is not a destination known for bareback vaginal.
BBBJ and CIM is certainly available.
You are likely to get put on the Ignore List by Escort Privada by asking for it.
There is little Asian presence in Lisbon, or poor immigrant sex workers in general. So the standard third-world technique of paying relatively more to a deeply impoverished lady (and causing her to take the risk of becoming even more impoverished if she gets pregnant) doesn't work in Portugal.
So in the traditional P4P arena, BB vaginal / anal is simply not part of the scene.
If you review the Seeking Arrangement thread here on ISG, you will find a lot of discussion of it with ladies who are quasi-girlfriends. SA is active in Lisbon, but there is no absolute certainty of any sex with an SA lady, and certainly no certainty of BB from a quasi-girlfriend who would not be likely to view a short-time visitor as a quasi-boyfriend.
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Bdsm
Hello! Can somebody please recommend girls who do BDSM in Lisbon? Preferably younger than 30 and no silicon.
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Trip to Lisbon
Hey,
I'll be planning a trip to Lisbon soon. Last time I was there I had a few issues in meeting the same lady I was actually speaking to. There seemed to be a lot of "double bookings."
This time I'm planning to research a little more. Does anyone have any solid recommendations for Lisbon of some independent ladies?
Also, I heard there was a local review board. Is it possible to get a link to this so I can do some planning in advance?
Thanks!
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Here are a couple of translated reviews from the local board this weekend that are of interest from reviewers with more than one review.
Maria Conceicao of EP is on a mission to solve the problem of a lack of hot, top-performing ladies in their early to mid 20's in the scene. Here is her latest translated review, a 9 out of 10:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
"Sorry for the late TD. My background is I'm looking for gp's to re-live my college years and early 20's. When we go out party, go clubbing and meet lots of girls for one night stands and fubu relationships. This expectation is the basis for my scores / feedback.
She was exactly what I was looking for that night. The beautiful girl you meet clubbing on a Saturday night out. Tall, I think 5'7 but I did not notice how high her heels were her. She was out with friends having a drink while waiting for our appointment, so she came in sexy, clubbing dress. Probably the only problem was heavy make-up, but it's normal for young girls going to a club. I was very happy when I opened my hotel door for her and exchanged pleasantries.
The 1st thing she does after the 'Hi-Hello,' small talk is to go the bathroom and brush her teeth! If I can give her 11 in hygiene, I would. After that, we do the seduction phase of the night. Again, I do it like how I did in my youth. Getting to know you talk, lots of foreplay to turn-on the girl, etc. These ends with a CIF and swallow. A bit of break, more talking (which I like) and seductive touching, then we start round 2. This was the heavy fucking which she really enjoyed.
So the whole experience felt like a one-night stand of my youth which was perfect for me. She did everything I ask, not in a mechanical way, but in how you ask a lover / fubu to have sex. And she reciprocated, telling me what she likes-taking initiative at times, and enjoying our time (and her smell and juices from her proves it). If she wasn't enjoying, she was one-hell of an actress who needs an award.
I actually think it was me who was rushing the time. I was too conscious of the 1 HR and getting everything I want within it. She does not seem to be in a rush, since she's just going back to the club where she left her friends."
And in the side of ladies in their 30's, Eva Sanchez / Jennifer PT just keeps getting 8's and 9's out of 10 year after year, review after review. Note that she does BBBJ but not CIM. She has been favorably mentioned here on ISG as being receptive to seeing foreign tourists. Here is her latest translated review from the local board:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
"Good confreres! TD made a while ago! Almost all I needed here on the forum was to test the goddess of the Olympic ass: LOL.
After who knows how many attempts, there we managed to get the agendas right, it seems to me that in addition to being competitive, she also likes to walk around, so sometimes she goes away from the place of work.
Well arrived at the place, he asks me to wait a few minutes, I thought I'm going to be on fire again, but no, there he gave me the last indications and there I go, open the door, I see a beautiful GP, I can't say that she is beautiful but she is beautiful and has a very sexy trait! Two kisses, conversation always flowing, we talked about everything and anything, it's super good vibes and you can see that he doesn't have a word for it! I like people like that, not afraid to say what's on their mind! In this towelie, I had taken a shower but I just went to rinse the soldier with water, I go back to the room and, as is the custom, his ass is stuck on the bed, I stayed there for a while to admire that ass carved with a cock hammer for a few seconds until she asks if I like what I see and I can't even speak in this I send that ass, underwear to the side and go mining, it was all worth it, she was crazy, I stayed there for a good few minutes and she wanted to go to 69, I still held on for quite a while, I even asked her to slow down a few times if he didn't want to take the daily dose of protein recommended.
In this he put the oilcloth on the soldier and off he went to clear the Bush through wetlands, cowgirl, roast chicken and another position, until I succumbed!
Cleaning, a lot of talking and she never let go of the soldier, always with her hand doing resuscitation movements! And she's saying, you can't leave without trying the main course which is eating me out of 4, music to my ears! Resurrected, he gives him a few sucks until he is on point and says, come on I want you to eat me all four, cover and my friends, what a treatment, always in high rotation, when it slowed down slightly, she was working, never let it down, she was already moaning, writhing, clinging to her nails and even going with her teeth to the sheets, I didn't even ask her to change her position, that ass is really good to fit and punch, it even relieved all the pressure, that bed held up well to the enthusiasm I advise my confreres! Moment well spent! A treatment that even tastes good! Highly approved".
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[QUOTE=SalfordBoy;2737336]I'm planning a visit to Lisbon City soon and I'the like to try some of the locals. Do any of the girls accept bareback sex? I sent a few messages to some of the escortprivada girls to inquire about this option but had no success.[/QUOTE]This subject is viewed with scorn on the local board, and can be taken as offensive by the upper tier of verified escorts. My understanding is they get pestered with BB inquiries by North Africans, Angolans, Chinese and Arabs regularly, and many ignore anyone who raises it.
So asking is a good way to get blocked.
There is an active thread going on about that subject right now on the local board, in fact. It's a sure fire way to make people very upset.
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[QUOTE=SalfordBoy;2737336]I'm planning a visit to Lisbon City soon and I'the like to try some of the locals. Do any of the girls accept bareback sex? I sent a few messages to some of the escortprivada girls to inquire about this option but had no success.[/QUOTE]LOL, Back in 1985 I was a young soldier, we got our first pass and had a hotel party. These two black prostitute knocked on the door we invited them in, when it came to me I asked if they had any diseases and they replied if we did do you think we will tell you. I got kicked out of the room, but come Monday all that went bb with them two was at the doctor, std and crabs LOL. The entire barracks quarantine for two weeks. LOL a quote from the jerk "Lord loves a workin' man. Don't trust whitey. See a doctor and get rid of it. ".
Reciting some wisdom.
STEVE MARTIN. Navin.
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Thank you Mongerer88
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2737528]Here are a couple of translated reviews from the local board this weekend that are of interest from reviewers with more than one review.
Maria Conceicao of EP is on a mission to solve the problem of a lack of hot, top-performing ladies in their early to mid 20's in the scene. Here is her latest translated review, a 9 out of 10:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
"Sorry for the late TD. My background is I'm looking for gp's to re-live my college years and early 20's. When we go out party, go clubbing and meet lots of girls for one night stands and fubu relationships. This expectation is the basis for my scores / feedback.
She was exactly what I was looking for that night. The beautiful girl you meet clubbing on a Saturday night out. Tall, I think 5'7 but I did not notice how high her heels were her. She was out with friends having a drink while waiting for our appointment, so she came in sexy, clubbing dress. Probably the only problem was heavy make-up, but it's normal for young girls going to a club. I was very happy when I opened my hotel door for her and exchanged pleasantries.
The 1st thing she does after the 'Hi-Hello,' small talk is to go the bathroom and brush her teeth! If I can give her 11 in hygiene, I would. After that, we do the seduction phase of the night. Again, I do it like how I did in my youth. Getting to know you talk, lots of foreplay to turn-on the girl, etc. These ends with a CIF and swallow. A bit of break, more talking (which I like) and seductive touching, then we start round 2. This was the heavy fucking which she really enjoyed.
So the whole experience felt like a one-night stand of my youth which was perfect for me. She did everything I ask, not in a mechanical way, but in how you ask a lover / fubu to have sex. And she reciprocated, telling me what she likes-taking initiative at times, and enjoying our time (and her smell and juices from her proves it). If she wasn't enjoying, she was one-hell of an actress who needs an award.
I actually think it was me who was rushing the time. I was too conscious of the 1 HR and getting everything I want within it. She does not seem to be in a rush, since she's just going back to the club where she left her friends."
And in the side of ladies in their 30's, Eva Sanchez / Jennifer PT just keeps getting 8's and 9's out of 10 year after year, review after review. Note that she does BBBJ but not CIM. She has been favorably mentioned here on ISG as being receptive to seeing foreign tourists. Here is her latest translated review from the local board:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320.html[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL]
"Good confreres! TD made a while ago! Almost all I needed here on the forum was to test the goddess of the Olympic ass: LOL.
After who knows how many attempts, there we managed to get the agendas right, it seems to me that in addition to being competitive, she also likes to walk around, so sometimes she goes away from the place of work.
Well arrived at the place, he asks me to wait a few minutes, I thought I'm going to be on fire again, but no, there he gave me the last indications and there I go, open the door, I see a beautiful GP, I can't say that she is beautiful but she is beautiful and has a very sexy trait! Two kisses, conversation always flowing, we talked about everything and anything, it's super good vibes and you can see that he doesn't have a word for it! I like people like that, not afraid to say what's on their mind! In this towelie, I had taken a shower but I just went to rinse the soldier with water, I go back to the room and, as is the custom, his ass is stuck on the bed, I stayed there for a while to admire that ass carved with a cock hammer for a few seconds until she asks if I like what I see and I can't even speak in this I send that ass, underwear to the side and go mining, it was all worth it, she was crazy, I stayed there for a good few minutes and she wanted to go to 69, I still held on for quite a while, I even asked her to slow down a few times if he didn't want to take the daily dose of protein recommended.
In this he put the oilcloth on the soldier and off he went to clear the Bush through wetlands, cowgirl, roast chicken and another position, until I succumbed!
Cleaning, a lot of talking and she never let go of the soldier, always with her hand doing resuscitation movements! And she's saying, you can't leave without trying the main course which is eating me out of 4, music to my ears! Resurrected, he gives him a few sucks until he is on point and says, come on I want you to eat me all four, cover and my friends, what a treatment, always in high rotation, when it slowed down slightly, she was working, never let it down, she was already moaning, writhing, clinging to her nails and even going with her teeth to the sheets, I didn't even ask her to change her position, that ass is really good to fit and punch, it even relieved all the pressure, that bed held up well to the enthusiasm I advise my confreres! Moment well spent! A treatment that even tastes good! Highly approved".[/QUOTE]I really appreciate all of the information that you provide. You seem to hit a lot of cities around the world that I visit including Manhattan, Atlanta, Orlando, Barcelona and now Lisbon.
I will be in Barcelona, Madrid, Mallorca, Valencia, Lisbon in the next 2 to 3 weeks and would love to know your top rated brothels. I know you said there's not any brothels in Lisbon but are there any places where you can go to pick from multiple girls?
I am fortunate that my wife allows me to get away and visit some of these places but I like to book at last minute and I'll drop in. Massage parlors that offer FS are also good.
I live in the Atlanta area and I look for your reviews wherever I travel. You are such a good source of information.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2737353]Lisbon is not a destination known for bareback vaginal.
BBBJ and CIM is certainly available.
You are likely to get put on the Ignore List by Escort Privada by asking for it.
There is little Asian presence in Lisbon, or poor immigrant sex workers in general. So the standard third-world technique of paying relatively more to a deeply impoverished lady (and causing her to take the risk of becoming even more impoverished if she gets pregnant) doesn't work in Portugal.
So in the traditional P4P arena, BB vaginal / anal is simply not part of the scene.
If you review the Seeking Arrangement thread here on ISG, you will find a lot of discussion of it with ladies who are quasi-girlfriends. SA is active in Lisbon, but there is no absolute certainty of any sex with an SA lady, and certainly no certainty of BB from a quasi-girlfriend who would not be likely to view a short-time visitor as a quasi-boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Yeah pity, most of the replies I've received until now has been very negative. I did find one local hooker willing to consider bareback sex on whatsapp, but she asked for double the standard price with no CIP, so will have to keep researching if I can find a better deal. But thanks for the feedback.
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Thank you.
This is likely the place you should focus on.
[URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
The address is in this link.
[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/our-massages/[/URL]
You will want to ask for the Relaxing Massage to make sure they know you want full service.
The reviews of the place are excellent, and some independents use it for incall sessions.
While you can ignore the No Sexual Content portion of their website disclaimer, you are best pretending you are in Atlanta or Orlando, instead of Europe, when working with them at first.
Lisbon has staying power. We don't see Portugal having to deal with abolitionists and Nordic Model debates like Spain is doing right now.
The Portuguese keep this activity out of the public eye by making appointments and not having huge incalls with lots of foot traffic and lots of sex workers at one place at a time.
Of course that is the opposite of what a lot of tourists want.
The Nuru Spa likely has more than one lady there at a time, but it just depends on the moment. They have expressed a preference for appointments, but are still likely to open the door if you don't have one. They do appear to now accept WhatsApp, so if you have very limited ability to book in advance perhaps even a message as you are leaving the hotel to get Uber or a taxi to their place would be viewed as polite and favorable. I would use Google Translate to send the message in translated Portuguese, but also copy and paste the original English message.
Just as in the USA, it is important to make sure they don't think you are law enforcement. But the fact that you are coming across as a nice, but bumbling American tourist, is likely good. I wouldn't mention review boards. Just say a friend told you about the place. As with the USA, they have to be careful. Prostitution is legal by the direct participants, but operating a brothel isn't.
For the first time, I would consider at least asking about about the specific lady you find most attractive on the website. There is a good chance she won't be working at the time you first head over the first time, anyway. If she is, just book with her. Once you are there, especially if your first choice wasn't available, you can ask to see if enough available ladies are there for a line-up. Or you can ask about it after your first appointment.
Just as in the USA, we learn to do the dance. If you lay out a condom and a couple of extra $100 bills the first time you are in the room at a massage parlor in the USA, the cute little Asian lady is going to leave the room and come back smiling with a plate and say "Have this tasty donut before we start the therapeutic massage, Mr. Police Officer. You learn to do the things a policeman can't do, like reach under her shorts and start massaging her bottom to let her know. Of course, it helps if the place is actually a naughty massage place, otherwise it gets awkward quickly. Not anything like that of course at The Nuru Spa, but there is still some level of respect and decorum necessary, since they need to give the public impression that it is a true massage parlor.
[QUOTE=VegasBoy7;2737657]I really appreciate all of the information that you provide. You seem to hit a lot of cities around the world that I visit including Manhattan, Atlanta, Orlando, Barcelona and now Lisbon.
I will be in Barcelona, Madrid, Mallorca, Valencia, Lisbon in the next 2 to 3 weeks and would love to know your top rated brothels. I know you said there's not any brothels in Lisbon but are there any places where you can go to pick from multiple girls?
I am fortunate that my wife allows me to get away and visit some of these places but I like to book at last minute and I'll drop in. Massage parlors that offer FS are also good.
I live in the Atlanta area and I look for your reviews wherever I travel. You are such a good source of information.[/QUOTE]
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Seconded
I can endorse Maria Conceicao and Eva Sanchez / Jennifer PT from direct experience. Both are very worthwhile.
Maria is all natural, in her early 20's and has long, dark curly hair. She is a great kisser and an enthusiastic lay, once she gets warmed up. Eva is in her early to mid 30's, has had a good implant job done, and has straight, long dark hair. She is a veteran courtesan with a long, reliable track record. She is an incall escort, and will only do outcalls for those she already knows. She has tended to keep her studio in the area between Marques de Pombal and Saldanha.
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Thank you Mongerer 88!
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2737859]Thank you.
This is likely the place you should focus on.
[URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
The address is in this link.
[URL]https://sensualcare.pt/our-massages/[/URL]
You will want to ask for the Relaxing Massage to make sure they know you want full service.
The reviews of the place are excellent, and some independents use it for incall sessions.
While you can ignore the No Sexual Content portion of their website disclaimer, you are best pretending you are in Atlanta or Orlando, instead of Europe, when working with them at first.
Lisbon has staying power. We don't see Portugal having to deal with abolitionists and Nordic Model debates like Spain is doing right now.
The Portuguese keep this activity out of the public eye by making appointments and not having huge incalls with lots of foot traffic and lots of sex workers at one place at a time.
Of course that is the opposite of what a lot of tourists want.
The Nuru Spa likely has more than one lady there at a time, but it just depends on the moment. They have expressed a preference for appointments, but are still likely to open the door if you don't have one. They do appear to now accept WhatsApp, so if you have very limited ability to book in advance perhaps even a message as you are leaving the hotel to get Uber or a taxi to their place would be viewed as polite and favorable. I would use Google Translate to send the message in translated Portuguese, but also copy and paste the original English message.
Just as in the USA, it is important to make sure they don't think you are law enforcement. But the fact that you are coming across as a nice, but bumbling American tourist, is likely good. I wouldn't mention review boards. Just say a friend told you about the place. As with the USA, they have to be careful. Prostitution is legal by the direct participants, but operating a brothel isn't.
For the first time, I would consider at least asking about about the specific lady you find most attractive on the website. There is a good chance she won't be working at the time you first head over the first time, anyway. If she is, just book with her. Once you are there, especially if your first choice wasn't available, you can ask to see if enough available ladies are there for a line-up. Or you can ask about it after your first appointment.
Just as in the USA, we learn to do the dance. If you lay out a condom and a couple of extra $100 bills the first time you are in the room at a massage parlor in the USA, the cute little Asian lady is going to leave the room and come back smiling with a plate and say "Have this tasty donut before we start the therapeutic massage, Mr. Police Officer. You learn to do the things a policeman can't do, like reach under her shorts and start massaging her bottom to let her know. Of course, it helps if the place is actually a naughty massage place, otherwise it gets awkward quickly. Not anything like that of course at The Nuru Spa, but there is still some level of respect and decorum necessary, since they need to give the public impression that it is a true massage parlor.[/QUOTE]
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Outcall service
Hello Heros,
Any one try the outcall service in Iberostar hotel or America diamonds hotel, as I will be some time between the both, any recommendation or advise?
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[QUOTE=Jeohos74;2739914]Hello Heros,
Any one try the outcall service in Iberostar hotel or America diamonds hotel, as I will be some time between the both, any recommendation or advise?[/QUOTE]As has been noted many times in the thread, Lisbon hotels are guest friendly.
If there is no elevator key card, she just comes up to your room and knocks.
If an elevator key card is required, you text / WhatsApp to find each other in the lobby and go up the elevator together.
You aren't in South America. It is your hotel room and you are free to have guests. The hotel employees will not even notice.
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Information about Lisbon
Dear Mongerer88, KamaLeao and ExExpatriate.
As experts of the Lisbon scene I asking you an help. I will spend the next week on Lisbon.
I am interested in oral (CIM) and anal sex with slim body young girls. I prefer, when possiblem, black girls. In particular my preferred Lisbon girl of 2 years ago was the astuning Sud African girl 'Lila', now not working more.
At the moment the best ladies profile seem to be those of Joanna Monetenegro, Maria Conceicao and Yola Lopes.
Do you have any other suggestions.
Thank you a lot.
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[QUOTE=Emeli67;2741510]I am interested in oral (CIM) and anal sex with slim body young girls. I prefer, when possible, black girls.
At the moment the best ladies profile seem to be those of Joanna Monetenegro, Maria Conceicao and Yola Lopes.[/QUOTE]Yola is, certainly, a very, very good choice. But if you really prefer young girls, she is a late 30's / early 40's woman. For me, that would never be a problem but for you, I don't know.
Another great choice could be the amazing Luciana Melo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/bdsm-Luciana-Melo-4439[/URL] . But, again, a 30 something girl (and she does not offer A-Level).
The slightly younger Ana/Bia Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL] , [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] would surely not disapoint you too.
I have posted reviews of all of them.
Joana Montenegro and Maria the Conceição I don't know.
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Recommendations
Any recommendations for skinny girls, I was looking at Clara Senna, but last reviews seem negative, so I am not sure?
Blue or green eyes is a plus.
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[QUOTE=PedroPadezP;2741934]Any recommendations for skinny girls, I was looking at Clara Senna, but last reviews seem negative, so I am not sure?
Blue or green eyes is a plus.[/QUOTE]Yes, Clara's reviews on the local board have deteriorated horribly.
Take a good, long look at these three.
Maju Rossi is well-reviewed on the local board as looking like her pictures. She is BBBJ, open-minded to alt / fetish according to her website, and gets a lot of 8's and 9's out of 10 on the local board reviews. She has a couple of mediocre reviews from guys she didn't click with or who were complainers about price, but overall her reviews are excellent. She responds to WhatsApp messages via translation, so she appears okay with foreign customers. But of course if communicating via translation (if you don't speak Portuguese) is not something you would enjoy, keep that in mind. Honestly it isn't that big of a deal if the lady keeps up the action, which she is reviewed as doing. Profile says brown eyes, though.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
Ines is of course a legendary GFE provider who is well reviewed here on ISG. You can search the thread to read the reviews. She is clearly okay with foreign customers. Kama might know her eye color. I don't see it listed in her profile. She lists her age as a few years older than Maju or Margarida (the other ladies mentioned in this post).
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
And while Margarida Vaz has only has one review on the local board, it is a very good review and says that she has a flat stomach and her body looks like the pictures. Margarida is indeed reviewed as being an older teen, and they generally have fantastic bodies even if not skinny. Margarida's review confirms CIM and her profile says she has green eyes.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Margarida-Vaz-6300[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
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Thank you
Dear Kama LEO.
I was with Luciana Melo a few months ago and really she is very a very good option also if not my preferred one. In any case she is enought young for me. When I said young I means under 40 better under 35.
However I still searching for a women like the astuning south african Lila: slim body, black skin, the best oral of my life without doubts (and I had dozens of women), fantastic A-level, also this one among the best I had.
Her body looks as that of Joanna Montenegro, for this my request about her.
Thank you again.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2741853]Yola is, certainly, a very, very good choice. But if you really prefer young girls, she is a late 30's / early 40's woman. For me, that would never be a problem but for you, I don't know.
Another great choice could be the amazing Luciana Melo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/bdsm-Luciana-Melo-4439[/URL] . But, again, a 30 something girl (and she does not offer A-Level).
The slightly younger Ana/Bia Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL] , [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-santos/[/URL] would surely not disapoint you too.
I have posted reviews of all of them.
Joana Montenegro and Maria the Conceio I don't know.[/QUOTE]
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Recommendations for Lisbon
Hey,
Any recommendations for some Portugese / Brazilian ladies in Lisbon? Early 20's preferably?
Will be heading over there this month and am keen to meet a few ladies.
Thanks.
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[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2742186]Hey,
Any recommendations for some Portugese / Brazilian ladies in Lisbon? Early 20's preferably?
Will be heading over there this month and am keen to meet a few ladies.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Like it or not, sex worker ages are trending older worldwide. Someone needs to be a better Career Day representative in high school. There are many explanations, of course, including how easy Seeking Arrangement makes it for the youngest ladies to sign up.
Here are the youngest ones with the best reviews meeting your Brazilian / Portuguese criteria.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
Maria and Maju have the most consistent string of great reviews, with Margarida having only one review but it is very good. Andreia has one really good review and a mixed one, mostly due to the inconsistency seen so often in younger ladies. Even more so with Soraia, who can be awkward at times, according to reviews (some of which are great and some of which are not good when it comes to Soraia's reviews). That is just the way it is with the youngest escorts. They might be completely different in their late 20's in a session if they are still escorting.
If you sacrifice a few years and go 25-39, you get plenty of options. None of us know exact ages, but I am trying to list the probable youngest ones first, as opposed to the best / most reviewed (although all of these ladies have overall positive reviews). Ladies like Patricia Navarro and Eva Sanchez get never-ending great reviews on the local board even though they are not in their early 20's, and keep in mind that a Brazilian / Portuguese lady ages much more slowly than an Eastern European lady does. I know I will miss some, so hopefully others will add.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Carolina-Belmont-6095[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Eloa-Sanchez-6532[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Patricia-Navarro-3827[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2742186]Hey,
Any recommendations for some Portugese / Brazilian ladies in Lisbon? Early 20's preferably?
Will be heading over there this month and am keen to meet a few ladies.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Oh, here is one more. Mostly because she just got an excellent review from an experienced reviewer on a big American review board.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
The reviewer bought the 10 hour session with her, and he really liked her. I presume her English is very good since he did dinner with her.
He found her young and pretty and was extremely complimentary of her BBBJTCIM. She also did some ramming on him, in addition to regular CFS.
Her local board reviews are very good, with the usual complaints about price. One of the reviews says that she is heavier than the listed 57 kg, although she does get compliments regarding her breasts.
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Information
Dear Mongerer88.
I would like to meet Joana Montenegro but I am disappointed by the fact the she have only a review on the local board which is of more than a years ago?
Do you have further information on her?
Among these girls.
Maria Conceicao.
Yola Lopes.
Eva Sanchez.
Joana Montenegro.
What is your preferred choice. I posted 3 days ago my preferences.
Thank you.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2742225]Like it or not, sex worker ages are trending older worldwide. Someone needs to be a better Career Day representative in high school. There are many explanations, of course, including how easy Seeking Arrangement makes it for the youngest ladies to sign up.
Here are the youngest ones with the best reviews meeting your Brazilian / Portuguese criteria.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Soraia Albuqurque
Good news on the always unpredictable reviews of Soraia Albuquerque of Escort Privada.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
She received a new review on the big American review board by a very experienced reviewer who gave Soraia an 8 for looks and 9 for performance out of 10. This is the same reviewer who gave EP's Camila Pereira the same scores of 8 and 9 out of 10. This reviewer has around 35 reviews from all over the world including London, Bangkok and the USA, and 8's and 9's out of 10 is a very good score from him based on his other reviews.
Here are the details of his review of Soraia:
" First of all the agency uses fake photos but it was a fair representation. I met her in my lobby and she was young and cute with a tight body. Straight away we got started. English was spotty but good enough. She undressed and had amazing big natural tits on her tiny petite frame. She was stripped in 5 seconds and I kissed her body and pussy. She hand me a nice BBBJ and then asked if I wanted vaginal or anal first. Easy choice. She lubed up and into the ass I went. It was amazing. We did 5 positions in anal. Doggie anal, she rode me in anal, I fucked her against the mirror. It was crazy. I fucked her ass an hour straight and she loved it. I finished in her pussy just to mix it up. Really cute face and the only reason it wasnt a 10 is because she didn't DFK. We can't have it all. I already repeated with a duo. ".
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Don't want to post my full reviews yet, but.
Second time and Lisbon and I decided to pull the trigger on some escorts. I will post my full review once I leave (Feel strange giving an honest review with the ladies knowing where I will be for the next several days) but I have been 0 for 2 so far.
I do not find myself as a picky guy. I really look for 3 things:
1) ability to get wet.
2) don't smoke (at least soon before the meeting).
3) and don't leave right after sex.
I have been with two ladies so far. The first was able to meet 2&3, second didn't meet any. Felt like I was making love to a cigarette. For point 1. I might just be a terrible lover but it has never been a problem in the past. Who knows.
Anyways, with all that being said. Has anyone had luck with items 1,2 and 3? If so, can you make some recommendations?
Thanks in advance and I am look forward to posting my full review!
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[QUOTE=Emeli67;2742616]Dear Mongerer88.
I would like to meet Joana Montenegro but I am disappointed by the fact the she have only a review on the local board which is of more than a years ago?
Do you have further information on her?
Among these girls.
Maria Conceicao.
Yola Lopes.
Eva Sanchez.
Joana Montenegro.
What is your preferred choice. I posted 3 days ago my preferences.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Well, you are certainly not going to go wrong with any of them, as they are four of the highest-rated providers in Lisbon. So a lot depends on your personal preferences.
Let's start with Joana Montenegro.
She has a lot more reviews from a diversified set of sources than you are giving her credit for.
For starters she has two excellent reviews on the big American review board. Her latest review there is from April, 2022, so it is pretty recent. She received an 8 for looks and an 8 for performance. That reviewer gave a similar score to Jenna Skarlett in Las Vegas. Now you may be asking why that matters. Because I have seen Jenna Skarlett in Las Vegas twice and would also give her 8's out of 10. So I trust the scores of that reviewer.
Joana's other review from the American review board was from 2020. She also got 8's out of 10 in that review. It was noted that she spoke excellent English and she was complimented on her BBBJ. The reviewer said she had very slight stretch marks on her stomach. The latest reviews don't mention that, so it is possible that exercise and weight loss eliminated them.
Joana got a 9 out of 10 in Hawk1377's fantastic summary of the EP ladies he has seen in post 4272. That is the most valuable review of all.
And she got very favorable mentions in both a you. K. And a French board if I recall correctly. One of those reviews mentioned she was open-minded and did some BDSM activities. That is really difficult to find in Lisbon.
Given your like of black girls, I would think that Joana would be the logical choice, as well as Yola, of course.
There is no doubt that Maria Conceicao is also a very highly-rated EP lady. She is the go to choice for the guys looking for the super-cute ladies in their early 20's. In fact, she just got a perfect 10 out of 10 review today on the local board.
So it is very difficult to compare and contrast Joana and Maria. If youngest and cutest is your thing, I think you would pick Maria. If blacker, more PSE performance, and better English is your thing, you would go with Joana. Personally, I love adding fetish aspects to a session, so Joana's advertisements of that, and its mention of it in previous reviews intrigues me. And on my next trip, I in fact have Joana at the top of the list. But many guys want pure GFE and don't care about fetish offerings.
But of course, so much is dependent on what a lady is up for on any given day. That is the problem with reviews. Sometimes a lady really feels like doing X one session, but not the next. Ana Castro of EP, who has long left the group, was very much like that.
On that same note, it is impossible to compare Maria Conceicao to Yola Lopes, who I know very little about. Yola has 19 pages of fantastic reviews but she is in her late 30's and according to many reviews is nearing 40. I realize that darker-skinned women age better, but she could damn near be Maria's mom. In general, given the choice of fucking the mom or her adult daughter, I opt for the daughter. But I am biased. I come from America, the land of middle-aged spread. Yola's reviews say she is in fantastic shape, and she gets never-ending 9's and 10's out of 10. And she is the only one on your list offering and consistently doing anal sex. So if anal sex is of great importance, Yola would be your lady.
Eva Sanchez is even harder to compare for one simple reason. She doesn't do CIM, whereas the other three do. Eva has pages and pages of fantastic reviews, and she definitely offers BBBJ, but the recipient must remind himself not to come in her mouth. I had a really bad experience once in California where I thought a very athletic redhead was going to hit me in the head with a lamp when I came in her mouth. I am sure Eva would not do that, by the way. But the redhead didn't tell me not to, and I didn't ask. I didn't know she didn't offer CIM and I didn't know she had a temper. Anyway, I love CIM and I really don't know I am going to cum until I cum. So when getting a BBBJ from a lady that doesn't allow CIM, I find myself either going for CFS or telling her to switch to her hand way sooner than I really prefer. This may not be an issue for you, in which case Eva Sanchez would be a great choice, and she gets plenty of compliments on facial beauty and her Brazilian butt.
So there you have it. There is no perfect choice.
Maria if youth is your thing.
Joana if darker skin, possibility of kink, and near perfect English is the most important.
Yola if darker skin and anal is more of a must. You should go back and read Kamala reviews of her to gauge whether she speaks English and has as pretty of a face as Eva Sanchez is said to have. Based on the sheer number of reviews, she is your safest bet if you are okay with late 30's in age.
And Eva if a pretty face and a Brazilian butt is the biggest factor, and CIM is not a must. But once again, there is no perfect way to compare her face to the others.
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Looking for big pussy recommendations in Lisbon
If you'll pardon the pun, I'm a sucker for a big pussy, big clits, long labia, the whole 9 yards. Ok, maybe not that big. I saw the extraordinarily endowed Erika Doux [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Erika-Doux-4154[/URL] but I can't find any reviews of her. Anyone have any info on her?
Aside from that end of the business, I don't mind too much about age, ethnicity, cup size, but I'm definitely looking for enthusiasm, kissing, and uninhibited character.
Any other recommendations?
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[QUOTE=Natpres;2742731]If you'll pardon the pun, I'm a sucker for a big pussy, big clits, long labia, the whole 9 yards. Ok, maybe not that big. I saw the extraordinarily endowed Erika Doux [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Erika-Doux-4154[/URL] but I can't find any reviews of her. Anyone have any info on her?
Aside from that end of the business, I don't mind too much about age, ethnicity, cup size, but I'm definitely looking for enthusiasm, kissing, and uninhibited character.
Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]Erica Doux received a 4 out of 10 in her first review, was described as hairy and having a deep voice. The reviewer said her face was ugly and that she was around 50 years old and he didn't like her attitude. I think you can do better than her.
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[QUOTE=Natpres;2742731]If you'll pardon the pun, I'm a sucker for a big pussy, big clits, long labia, the whole 9 yards. Ok, maybe not that big. I saw the extraordinarily endowed Erika Doux [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Erika-Doux-4154[/URL] but I can't find any reviews of her. Anyone have any info on her?
Aside from that end of the business, I don't mind too much about age, ethnicity, cup size, but I'm definitely looking for enthusiasm, kissing, and uninhibited character.
Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]I wish Sara Valente still had her old picture up with the chair and the guitar.
She has a nice meaty pussy, which the picture shows, even though she is very tight. She gets wet naturally when you go down on her and finger her.
She definitely meets you other criteria, also. And she does a fantastic bbbjtcim. I am not much into kissing, but she definitely does that.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Sara-Valente-2534[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Natpres;2742731]If you'll pardon the pun, I'm a sucker for a big pussy, big clits, long labia, the whole 9 yards. …
Aside from that end of the business, I don't mind too much about age, ethnicity, cup size, but I'm definitely looking for enthusiasm, kissing, and uninhibited character.
Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]I found Sara's first review, which further illustrates that she has a large labia. The review was seven years ago, which puts her at 31-32 years old now. She went by Sophia as a name at that time. I tried to make the name change below, but could have missed some. Note that she has since had a breast procedure to help fix the stretch marks that some naturally busty women with a small frame get.
"The twenty-nineth May two thousand and fourteen. From what I could see on picture, I was expecting her to be a bit aged, I was dreading a bad surprise, but it will be a good one. She certified her 24 years old, whatever it really is, she's pretty and dynamic. She's young lady, comfortable in her own skin, positive, smiling all the time. Her contact has antidepressing therapeutic properties. Her state was so euphoric that I was wondering how come: she was about to get fucked by me, a total stranger she did not desire.
We are getting to know each other under the shower, waiting for the hot water to come. I'm teasing her throwing at her the cold water, she's laughing. She's really cool. I would even forget I asked her to come here to fuck her, so I start to kiss. She's ardent and fiery, from that point I can already know it's going to be a great meeting.
She's has a nice body, balanced and slim, little ass to sodomise and sweet boobs to lick. If I want to be honest I'd say her boobs have stretch marks, but it didn't really bothered me. I was already laying down her and eating her pussy. And the food was in abundance, her labia are very large, so I've eaten until repletion. I'd like to think that the delicate caresses of my tongue inside the interstices of her pussy gave her some pleasure. But I guess that Sara is a natural sex-beast, and she doesn't need my treats to be aroused. She would have jumped on dick just the same. She sucked me like crazy, as her life was depending on. Hung on my sex she was drinking it like she was about to die and she didn't want to lose any bit of it. She was reaching the maximal depth, suffocating of her own gluttony. My movements in her wet mouth are bem-vindos, she's always getting more on fire. I'm spanking her, it is not permitted to have the devil inside that way! But nothing I can do, she's sucking me always more greedily. I start to rub her asshole and there it goes inside, she's now penetrated both ways like skewered chicken. I understand she will never stop, so I surrender. We caressed, touched, hugged, masturbated endlessly. She was taking my face looking me straight in the eyes, I devoured her tits and fucked her mouth again.
I believe that Sara's motto is « go hard or go home », and to that point many would have been sent back to their mum crying. But it was nothing compared to what was next with penetration: she jumped in the arena like a lioness. She want to get fucked hard, she moving constantly, hurrying me up, grasping me: inexhaustible. I slide my dick in her ass: unstoppable. I was boasting about my recent marathon bravooo, but she killed me HUHUHU. I was afraid to get the cefaleia orgástica again, but she would have outperformed me anyway. It's a sex machine and with always the smile!
Little break, we masturbate, I'm rubbing the entrance of her vagina and her pussy starts to flood, she's gets fucking wet, I'm happy and excited I tell her "muito bom" She's smiling.
The party starts again with the same enthusiasm and emergency, whatever the position was she was participating. Despite the air conditioning we finished in sweating streams. She's licking my balls, ready to receive my semen in her mouth, and she pumped it until the last drop yesss.
Sara is full-service, all-inclusive sex:
Deep French kiss: ✔.
Deep throat: ✔.
Face fucking: ✔.
Fingers: ✔.
Anal Riming: ✔.
Anal fingering: ✔.
Cum in mouth: ✔.
All the ingredients for me to have a blast where here, and I indeed had it with this friendly girl. Sara is among the few who try to make the meeting pleasant for themselves as well. And even if it's not case, I totally believed it, and from escorts I'm not asking anything else.
Services: 9,75/10.
Thanks for the good time sweety, I will remember you for sure. Boa sorte!
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0 for 3 fellas
[QUOTE=Thatoneguy9;2742724]Second time and Lisbon and I decided to pull the trigger on some escorts. I will post my full review once I leave (Feel strange giving an honest review with the ladies knowing where I will be for the next several days) but I have been 0 for 2 so far.
I do not find myself as a picky guy. I really look for 3 things:
1) ability to get wet.
2) don't smoke (at least soon before the meeting).
3) and don't leave right after sex.
I have been with two ladies so far. The first was able to meet 2&3, second didn't meet any. Felt like I was making love to a cigarette. For point 1. I might just be a terrible lover but it has never been a problem in the past. Who knows.[/QUOTE]Going to last row a while and rest up. Might try again towards the end of the trip.
Side note. When people say "local board", does that mean this forum?
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Thank you
Dear Mongerer88.
Thank you for the competent answer and for your time. I will try Joana. I will send a report as soon as possible.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2742727]Well, you are certainly not going to go wrong with any of them, as they are four of the highest-rated providers in Lisbon. So a lot depends on your personal preferences.
Let's start with Joana Montenegro.
She has a lot more reviews from a diversified set of sources than you are giving her credit for.
For starters she has two excellent reviews on the big American review board. Her latest review there is from April, 2022, so it is pretty recent. She received an 8 for looks and an 8 for performance. That reviewer gave a similar score to Jenna Skarlett in Las Vegas. Now you may be asking why that matters. Because I have seen Jenna Skarlett in Las Vegas twice and would also give her 8's out of 10. So I trust the scores of that reviewer.
Joana's other review from the American review board was from 2020. She also got 8's out of 10 in that review. It was noted that she spoke excellent English and she was complimented on her BBBJ. The reviewer said she had very slight stretch marks on her stomach. The latest reviews don't mention that, so it is possible that exercise and weight loss eliminated them.
Joana got a 9 out of 10 in Hawk1377's fantastic summary of the EP ladies he has seen in post 4272. That is the most valuable review of all...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2742787]Sara is full-service, all-inclusive sex[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the tip, she looks great!
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[QUOTE=WonderTraveler;2737485]Hello! Can somebody please recommend girls who do BDSM in Lisbon? Preferably younger than 30 and no silicon.[/QUOTE]Lisbon's Apartadox has a BDSM escort section.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-bdsm-dominacao-femdom-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
Among the recommended ladies currently advertising on it are:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Joana-Montenegro-4360[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Sara-Valente-2534[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/bdsm-Luciana-Melo-4439[/URL]
Unless things have changed, Sara doesn't go very heavy on the submissive side. Of course she might have gotten more comfortable with that over time. You don't specify whether who are looking for a dom, sub, or switch session.
Luciana might be a few years older than what you specified.
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Rimming active / passive
I'm very interested in trying some of EP girs, namely Margarida Vaz or Maria Conceio.
I love rimming and I see they both charge a fee for "Rimming active" but in Margarida's case there is no fee for "Rimming passive". Anyone knows the difference between rimming active vs. Passive? I'm guessing one is receiving and the other is giving, but which is which?
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[QUOTE=Vamoquivamo;2743498]I'm very interested in trying some of EP girs, namely Margarida Vaz or Maria Conceio.
I love rimming and I see they both charge a fee for "Rimming active" but in Margarida's case there is no fee for "Rimming passive". Anyone knows the difference between rimming active vs. Passive? I'm guessing one is receiving and the other is giving, but which is which?[/QUOTE]Rimming passive is when you do analingus on her, rimming active is when she does analingus on you.
Maria does not list rimming passive in her profile. She may accept it, and if you have interest in that activity you should ask via WhatsApp if she does.
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Thank you to all for the information on the forum, in particular Mongerer88. I tried Soraia Albuquerque after the numerous references to her here, mostly indicating positive comments. In summary, it was not great. Not a disaster by any means, but just average. I shall provide details shortly.
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Soraia Albuquerque
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
Soraia wasn't quite my first choice but other ladies were either on holiday or not available at the times that I was free. The pictures on the website are definitely flattering, but that is to be expected. Of course, the face isn't shown and when she arrived at my hotel my first impression was disappointment– I would say she is not facially attractive. She is, however, young (21 or 22 I'the guess) and has a reasonable body; her breasts are natural and a nice size. She is on the petite side and doesn't really have any curves (was disappointed with her ass). I would give her a 6/10 for looks overall (facially not great and her breasts the only feature I found attractive). On the service, I am going to give her a 7/10, however I didn't have intercourse with her (see below) so it's a 7 with a caveat.
After undressing, I started to suck her breasts as I enjoy that if they are nice. To my disappointment, she only allowed a little sucking during the session as she kept telling me they were sensitive – as he breasts were the only feature I found attractive I knew it may not be a great session. Indeed, I struggled to even get an erection as I just wasn't turned on enough. She is also a bit uninspiring; she wasn't very sexy and showed no enthusiasm. However, I think that is more to do with her personality rather than anything deliberate. To her credit, she gave me a nice BBBJ and kept going in bursts of several minutes throughout the session. I also got kissing through the session and bits of DFK, but as I didn't find her attractive I didn't seek more DFK. She also wasn't keen on too much spanking during the session, where as other reviews report she was comfortable with it. Also, she was fine with a fingering in the pussy but not in the ass. On her page, A-level is advertised as an extra so I am confused by recent reviews stating that they fucked her in the ass, I assume they paid more. I did get the feeling that the sex may have been good as she was receptive to suggestions on the BBBJ, it's a shame I couldn't experience that.
I wouldn't see her again, but the session wasn't a disaster. She has a reasonable attitude, and is friendly enough. However, I definitely wouldn't describe her as attractive and she is a bit uninspiring from her body language and the manner in which she talks.
A question for people – what would you do if you book an incall to your hotel and you are immediately disappointed when the lady arrives?
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Thank you very much for the feedback.
Soraia has a 7 an 8 and two 3's out of 10 on the local review board.
Same here on ISG. A guy who thought she was fantastic, a guy who liked her fairly well but liked her friend Andreia better, and now a couple of guys who found her to be rather disappointing.
I think it is a matter of which version of Soraia shows up. She is a very YMMV lady. Very unpredictable.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2745240][URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
Soraia wasn't quite my first choice but other ladies were either on holiday or not available at the times that I was free. The pictures on the website are definitely flattering, but that is to be expected. Of course, the face isn't shown and when she arrived at my hotel my first impression was disappointment I would say she is not facially attractive. She is, however, young (21 or 22 I'the guess) and has a reasonable body; her breasts are natural and a nice size. She is on the petite side and doesn't really have any curves (was disappointed with her ass). I would give her a 6/10 for looks overall (facially not great and her breasts the only feature I found attractive). On the service, I am going to give her a 7/10, however I didn't have intercourse with her (see below) so it's a 7 with a caveat.
After undressing, I started to suck her breasts as I enjoy that if they are nice. To my disappointment, she only allowed a little sucking during the session as she kept telling me they were sensitive as he breasts were the only feature I found attractive I knew it may not be a great session. Indeed, I struggled to even get an erection as I just wasn't turned on enough. She is also a bit uninspiring; she wasn't very sexy and showed no enthusiasm. However, I think that is more to do with her personality rather than anything deliberate. To her credit, she gave me a nice BBBJ and kept going in bursts of several minutes throughout the session. I also got kissing through the session and bits of DFK, but as I didn't find her attractive I didn't seek more DFK. She also wasn't keen on too much spanking during the session, where as other reviews report she was comfortable with it. Also, she was fine with a fingering in the pussy but not in the ass. On her page, A-level is advertised as an extra so I am confused by recent reviews stating that they fucked her in the ass, I assume they paid more. I did get the feeling that the sex may have been good as she was receptive to suggestions on the BBBJ, it's a shame I couldn't experience that.
I wouldn't see her again, but the session wasn't a disaster. She has a reasonable attitude, and is friendly enough. However, I definitely wouldn't describe her as attractive and she is a bit uninspiring from her body language and the manner in which she talks.
A question for people what would you do if you book an incall to your hotel and you are immediately disappointed when the lady arrives?[/QUOTE]
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A week in Lisboa
Dear all.
I was in lisbon for a week and, following the suggestions in this forum (Mongerer88 and Kama Leao among all) I tried Joana Montenegro, Maria Conceicao, Luciana Melo. Really I tried to contact Yola Lopes but she was unavailable in these days.
Joana isan astuning Cabo Verdian girl. Skinny but with all the curves in the right place. She is, I think, around 30 years old, beautiful face and body apart from the very slight stretch marks on her stomach as already said by Mongerer88, her skin is milk and cofee color. She has piersing on the tongue and near her stomac. She has also a dental appliance.
The hour spent with Joana was fantastic, long kissing, 69 position, fucking in many differente positions and CIM. A beatiful atmosphere. Her oral was very good also if not perfect. The only disappointing thing is that she don't allows anal sex.
Maria Coinceicao was also a good experince, very young girl I think 22 years old, not so beatiful as Joana in my opinion. Also Maria allows kissing, 69 position and CIM and obviously fucking in many differente positions.
Finally Luciana Melo, a completely different girl. Very huge breast, she is not skinny and in general is. Huge for me. His oral is particularly good but also if she allows to terminate with oral (something that I love a lot) she don't allow CIM but you have to inform her before cumming in order to terminate on her breast.
It is important to affirm that for me the term of comparison, that is my best experience ever in Lisbon, was with South African Lila and remains that. However among these girl the highest value for me is surely with Joana. If Lila is a 10/10 Joana is 8/10, the other two girls 7/10 (obviously for me).
Enjoy Lisbon.
It is important to affirm that for me the term of comparison, that is my best experience ever in Lisbon, was with South African Lila and remains that. However among these girl the highest value for me is surely with Joana.
Enjoy Lisbon.
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Thanks Emeli67 for the great feedback.
I realized after I posted about Soraia Albuquerque that we do need to be fair here, guys.
While she is YMMV, if she did an hour anal sex session soon before seeing Harry1217, maybe she just wasn't up for more anal sex.
And spankings are always a sensitive issue with some girls. If they aren't dating someone, they might be okay with a red butt and some minor marks, but if they are dating someone who they are hiding escorting from, it can be a different story. For younger ladies, that can change in a month or two.
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Incall
Hello everyone,
I would like to ask if anyone recommend making incall service with a nice and cute lady and she has a nice and safe place.
Need your recommendation.
Thanks.
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Soraia as a case in point
Soraia is a good case study in how to read a review and in unrealistic expectations. For my part, I think of her as a pretty young girl with an outstanding physique, but a passive lay. She is cooperative, but not active and certainly not aggressive. I described her as such. Based on her previous reviews, she was more or less what I expected.
Different people have different tastes, so anyone looking for PSE should have the sense to realize Soraia is going to be more like a shy GFE and therefore go elsewhere. Her other reviews indicate she is willing to do anal, so frankly I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt for her reasons if she refuses. Likewise, she wasn't that sensitive in the nipples with me, so that could have been down to the day or what was being done.
And I would like to know where else in Europe is anyone going to find an outcall escort of this caliber, ease and reliability for 150/ HR? Emphasis on Europe there, because otherwise it's apples and oranges and coconuts.
Another thing is sometimes it needs to be borne in mind that the ladies burn out. On my last visit to Portugal, I called on a favorite of mine I haven't seen in 2 years, and it didn't go well. I still genuinely like her as a person, so I am not going to write up the mediocre experience. But I think the business has changed her style, and not for the better.
It happens. Another EP girl, Julia Nobrega, was an excellent lay when I had her 3 years ago. Now she sounds very used up. So sometimes you catch someone several months after their last review, and they've gone rotten. So, maybe Soraia is running out of gas.
Also, it needs to be borne in mind that between individual tastes, whether or not the lady fancies you, and how she is feeling that day, YMMV. Some of the best and most professional courtesans in Lisbon have days where their performance is going to be a 7 rather than a 9.
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I agree with some aspects of what you say.
I do agree that anal should not be expected, and I did not mark a negative based on that. I was aware that she lists it as an extra €50 on her profile. I also agree that she doesn't really advertise anything other GFE, so we shouldn't expect anything else.
In terms of being sensitive in the nipples, that was a definite negative as I was very gentle and she hardly allowed it. She kept commenting that in the way that men are sensitive around the penis, women are sensitive on the nipples. It was distinctly negative in terms of a GFE.
In terms of burning out, Soraia did come across as being a bit like that. I can't be sure as she is a bit shy naturally and appears unenthusiastic. But I wonder when she started this work and how busy she is keeping. Burning out is not an adequate reason to provide a below par performance. However, I marked her as a 7 as she wasn't that bad with me. I wasn't attracted enough to be able to have intercourse with her, which has never happened to me before, but I am not blaming her for that. YMMV is acceptable as long as the lady provides the basic services which are advertised and which you would expect. The same comment applies to whether she fancies the client. She reneged on the breast sucking which in my opinion wasn't good, other than that I don't have any complaints.
Your point about getting an escort for 150/ HR is not really relevant as that is the price for these escorts in Lisbon. I can't just say it was a brilliant service because I may pay 250/ HR in Amsterdam; I need to be able to assess what she provided with what is advertised by her and what we would expect.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2745841]Soraia is a good case study in how to read a review and in unrealistic expectations. For my part, I think of her as a pretty young girl with an outstanding physique, but a passive lay. She is cooperative, but not active and certainly not aggressive. I described her as such. Based on her previous reviews, she was more or less what I expected.
Different people have different tastes, so anyone looking for PSE should have the sense to realize Soraia is going to be more like a shy GFE and therefore go elsewhere. Her other reviews indicate she is willing to do anal, so frankly I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt for her reasons if she refuses. Likewise, she wasn't that sensitive in the nipples with me, so that could have been down to the day or what was being done.
And I would like to know where else in Europe is anyone going to find an outcall escort of this caliber, ease and reliability for 150/ HR? Emphasis on Europe there, because otherwise it's apples and oranges and coconuts.
Another thing is sometimes it needs to be borne in mind that the ladies burn out. On my last visit to Portugal, I called on a favorite of mine I haven't seen in 2 years, and it didn't go well. I still genuinely like her as a person, so I am not going to write up the mediocre experience. But I think the business has changed her style, and not for the better.
It happens. Another EP girl, Julia Nobrega, was an excellent lay when I had her 3 years ago. Now she sounds very used up. So sometimes you catch someone several months after their last review, and they've gone rotten. So, maybe Soraia is running out of gas.
Also, it needs to be borne in mind that between individual tastes, whether or not the lady fancies you, and how she is feeling that day, YMMV. Some of the best and most professional courtesans in Lisbon have days where their performance is going to be a 7 rather than a 9.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Medohor;2745833]Hello everyone,
I would like to ask if anyone recommend making incall service with a nice and cute lady and she has a nice and safe place.
Need your recommendation.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Here are the independents with great reviews that are of the most interest to me. I am sure I forgot a few. You don't give much details as to what you are looking for. You would contact them via WhatsApp using Google Translate to communicate with them in Portuguese, make an appointment, go to her address, and do the deed. They are all certainly nice and cute. Lisbon doesn't relegate sex work to seedy red light districts. They have incentive to have their incall in safe areas, otherwise the locals wouldn't go there. Lisbon doesn't have brothels, so you book with an independent by making an appointment. It isn't difficult.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Patricia-Navarro-3827[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428[/URL]
This lady divides her time between Lisbon and Porto.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
This lady is generally in Cascais.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294[/URL]
You are hard pressed to find a bad review anywhere of any of the ladies listed above, all of whom have incall.
If you don't want to book incall with an independent for some reason, try this massage place, which offers full service. Ask for the Relaxing Massage. Don't directly mention sex, since a massage parlor can't have ladies who sell sex. Just play it cool, ask for the Relaxing Massage, and you should be happy.
[URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
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Massage places
I went to two of the massage places whilst in Lisbon recently, unfortunately was not offered any sexual services in either.
The first place was the Nuru spa:
[URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]
I understand from the forum posts that everyone on the local board has reported having sex with the lady there if they ask for a 'relaxing massage'. That was my first problem, as when I suggested 'relaxing massage' to the receptionist he said they do not have anything called that and gave me a list of different massages. I went for the erotic shower at €150 for an hour. The lady Alysha was very attractive with clothes on but undressed she was not in perfect shape (but was still reasonably good looking). She wouldn't even allow sucking of breasts or any form of touching her pussy.
The second place was the Genuine Tantric in Saldanha:
[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/pt[/URL]
I didn't find any reference to this place on the forum but decided to give it a chance as I was staying only a 2 minute walk away.
I went for a tantric massage for €150 for an hour with Lorena. She delivered an excellent and erotic massage but insisted it was massage only. I think I made the mistake of not making my intentions clear before I selected the massage.
Overall, there is no way the above two places can be considered value for money when the same amount of money (€150) gets you a full service with ladies in the city. But I do like the idea of having an erotic massage first, so if they offered sex it would be a good occasional alternative to seeing an independent escort.
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Note Harry1217's update that not all of the ladies at Nuru Spa offer full service. Perhaps better to stick with escorts.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2745895]Here are the independents with great reviews that are of the most interest to me. I am sure I forgot a few. You don't give much details as to what you are looking for. You would contact them via WhatsApp using Google Translate to communicate with them in Portuguese, make an appointment, go to her address, and do the deed. They are all certainly nice and cute. Lisbon doesn't relegate sex work to seedy red light districts. They have incentive to have their incall in safe areas, otherwise the locals wouldn't go there. Lisbon doesn't have brothels, so you book with an independent by making an appointment. It isn't difficult.[/QUOTE]
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Spas offering FS
Insofar as I know, all the massagistas at L'Essence in Alges offer FS.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/176077-l-essence-seu-melhor-espaco-de[/URL]
Also, most if not all have individual ads on docemassagem, which is where those photos come from. So, they are verified. The ladies there regularly score at least a 7 on local board reviews, and Diana PT in particular is very well regarded.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/diana-portuguesa/[/URL]
If you look on docemassgem for ladies working in Alges, most of them are at L'Essence. They have a roster of 4 to 6 at any given time.
Most spas in downtown Lisbon -- Picoas, Marques de Pombal, Saldanha. -- are HJ (lingam) only. Genuine Tantric is a good example, and has been around for a decade or more. Then there are others that I don't really know or it's up to the lady. Some aren't that good. There are too many to list, so it's best to answer about a particular house.
Somassagens is another verified ad site specializing in massagistas, but the ladies advertising are mixed between HJ only and FS available. Like docemassgem, it's good for finding independents as well as spas. Just ask if the massage is "com convivo" or "com decompressao. " Convivo is FS.
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Thank you.
Somewhere like Alges is a little far out. I was indeed looking for spas in downtown Lisbon such as in Saldanha or Picoas.
The one place I struck out at was at Nuru spa ([URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]) because it seems you are almost guaranteed FS if you ask for 'relaxing massage'. I will have to be a bit more explicit with the receptionist next time.
I came across plenty of spa's in downtown Lisbon that I would love to visit if they also offered FS, including the following:
[URL]https://deliriospa.pt[/URL]
[URL]https://lisbon-massage.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt[/URL]
I visited Delirio and they had a nice line up of ladies, but I chose not to go after having no success at the first two spa's visited.
As you say, maybe it is worth just asking if its "com convivo" to avoid any confusion or uncertainty! Otherwise, it makes very little sense to pay €150 for just a lingam massage when you can get FS for exactly the same price.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2746151]Insofar as I know, all the massagistas at L'Essence in Alges offer FS.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/166-massagens-lisboa/176077-l-essence-seu-melhor-espaco-de[/URL]
Also, most if not all have individual ads on docemassagem, which is where those photos come from. So, they are verified. The ladies there regularly score at least a 7 on local board reviews, and Diana PT in particular is very well regarded.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/diana-portuguesa/[/URL].[/QUOTE]
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Based on all reports, Delirio and Tantric Moments are both HJ only, body to body massages. I have never read anyone getting FS there.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2746198]Thank you.
Somewhere like Alges is a little far out. I was indeed looking for spas in downtown Lisbon such as in Saldanha or Picoas.
The one place I struck out at was at Nuru spa ([URL]http://sensualcare.pt/[/URL]) because it seems you are almost guaranteed FS if you ask for 'relaxing massage'. I will have to be a bit more explicit with the receptionist next time.
I came across plenty of spa's in downtown Lisbon that I would love to visit if they also offered FS, including the following:
[URL]https://deliriospa.pt[/URL]
[URL]https://lisbon-massage.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt[/URL]
I visited Delirio and they had a nice line up of ladies, but I chose not to go after having no success at the first two spa's visited.
As you say, maybe it is worth just asking if its "com convivo" to avoid any confusion or uncertainty! Otherwise, it makes very little sense to pay 150 for just a lingam massage when you can get FS for exactly the same price.[/QUOTE]
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Independents
I understand the interest in a nuru massage + FS.
These are independents that advertise on the two massage ad sites (docemassgem and somassagens), and that receive consistent 7+ reviews on the local board:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/vanessinha/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/253-lara-chaves-massagista-sensual[/URL]
Lara also appears on other photo-verified ad sites as Kelly Fontini.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1142-lia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
Lia used to offer FS. It's unclear if she still does. Sometimes that disclaimer is just there because of the house. So ask her about "com convivo" to confirm.
Unfortunately, I cannot attest to any of the ladies personally, but KamaLeo endorses Ines and Cleo, if I recall that right. Of my three favorite ladies who offer the kind of service you seem to want, one seems to be retired, one is inactive at present, and one is back in Brazil for a while.
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[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
Does anyone have any info on Victoria? I haven't been able to find any reviews.
On independents, highly recommend Ines, she's fantastic and very GFE.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
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Ines-Doce
I saw Ines yesterday and will attest that she is FS and fun to be with. BBBJ and CFS on the menu. She is very enthusiastic. Only negative is she is a smoker and she has some stretch marks from baby. However she makes up for it in experience.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2746623]I understand the interest in a nuru massage + FS.
These are independents that advertise on the two massage ad sites (docemassgem and somassagens), and that receive consistent 7+ reviews on the local board:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/vanessinha/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/253-lara-chaves-massagista-sensual[/URL]
Lara also appears on other photo-verified ad sites as Kelly Fontini.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1142-lia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
Lia used to offer FS. It's unclear if she still does. Sometimes that disclaimer is just there because of the house. So ask her about "com convivo" to confirm.
Unfortunately, I cannot attest to any of the ladies personally, but KamaLeo endorses Ines and Cleo, if I recall that right. Of my three favorite ladies who offer the kind of service you seem to want, one seems to be retired, one is inactive at present, and one is back in Brazil for a while.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Shaidester;2746630][URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
Does anyone have any info on Victoria? I haven't been able to find any reviews.
On independents, highly recommend Ines, she's fantastic and very GFE.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL][/QUOTE]Victoria Saraiva's one review on the United Kingdom review board is from an experienced reviewer who does a lot of reviews of EP ladies. He has a lot of reviews overall and is trustable and honest. His favorite was Joana Montenegro, who he has seen several times and he was the first to let us know she has a kinky side and often accepts spankings. He liked Maria Conceicao but not as well as he liked Joana, and said Maria was a bit too quiet and passive during sex to suit him. That gives you an idea of what he is looking for, which might or might not be useful to you. As with all reviews, one person's preferences might not translate over to your's.
It is already known that Aurora Alfaiate is one of EP's top ladies and is a favorite of Hawk's, who did a fantastic summary here on ISG of the EP ladies he has seen. So in the review below, Victoria is a bit overshadowed by Aurora who the reviewer liked better in the threesome. We really won't know much about Victoria until she gets some solo reviews. But the review does give us the first bit of data about Victoria Saraiva. And now that I read the review, she is so much darker skinned than the photos show that Aurora would have been a great choice for Emeli67, and he might want to put Aurora on his list for next time as a potential Lila replacement.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
Anyway, here is the review from the British review board:
"Paid 150 euros each for an hour, so total of 300 for the hour.
Aurora was super hot. Tiny, brown skinned girl with small natural tits and a nicely formed butt. Great skin. Hair is a mass of curls. You can't tell from the photos but she is dark skinned, ie. Black. Very smiley and friendly. Mid twenties or younger is my guess. Really tight in penetration and very flexible. Turns out she does circus arts. Very good English. Only LFK and doesn't allow RO, and also rolled on a condom for OW. I didn't insist on OWO, and the lack of RO isn't great.
Victoria I found less facially attractive, probably a 6 out of 10. Her body is also not particularly toned, nor is it thin nor fat. Skinny fat you might say. But she has a great personality and got us all coordinated for the threesome. She also has a very large pair of natural tits topped off with big nipples. Firm and extremely sensitive. She was moaning and whimpering like she was about to orgasm from my suckling on them. She claimed she can orgasm just from tit stimulation.
Aurora is hetero while Victoria is bi. So there was limited interaction between them even though they are friends. I initially had contacted Aurora and she brought Victoria along when I asked about duos. Started off with me in the middle and them offering their tits and sucking me off. Then swapped. Some LFK in this position. Then Aurora unprompted got on top and started riding while I suckled Victoria. This went on for quite some time, and Aurora even switched to reverse cowgirl without breaking penetration. All good fun and a jokey atmosphere throughout.
Then I gave Aurora some attention and pounded her in missionary which she seemed to enjoy. Lots of whimpering with her eyes closed and head thrown back. Swapped to Victoria cowgirl with Aurora sucking my balls. Finally ended with me finishing myself off by hand, Victoria sucking my balls and Aurora offering her tiny tits. Aurora offered to have me unload in her mouth, which I duly did with some warning to her. She took a big load held it in her mouth for a second and then went to dispose of it in the bathroom.
Attaching some pics -- I actually still can't tell if Aurora was a bait and switch. The pics look nothing like her.
Still, will be keen to try Aurora solo next time. ".
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2746623] KamaLeo endorses Ines and Cleo, if I recall that right. [/QUOTE]Yes, you're right. And, of the ones you've mentioned, also Lia
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1142-lia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL], a beautiful, sweet & slow Bangla Deshi girl. Inês is, no doubt, the best of the three but the other two are also great options.
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Younger EP Ladies
Thanks for the info, very helpful. Looking at the younger EP ladies, Maria obviously has really good reviews. I saw Margarida has one good and one bad review and Flora Nevez has a neutral seeming one on the local board. I might book one of those.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2746750]Victoria Saraiva's one review on the United Kingdom review board is from an experienced reviewer who does a lot of reviews of EP ladies. He has a lot of reviews overall and is trustable and honest. His favorite was Joana Montenegro, who he has seen several times and he was the first to let us know she has a kinky side and often accepts spankings. He liked Maria Conceicao but not as well as he liked Joana, and said Maria was a bit too quiet and passive during sex to suit him. That gives you an idea of what he is looking for, which might or might not be useful to you. As with all reviews, one person's preferences might not translate over to your's.
[/QUOTE]
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Just a quick note about Maria Conceição. I understand she is retiring from escorting in November, which is obviously very soon.
I know there have been lots of positive comments about her, and she is one of the most well reviewed girls, so thought I'd mention it.
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[QUOTE=Shaidester;2746918]Thanks for the info, very helpful. Looking at the younger EP ladies, Maria obviously has really good reviews. I saw Margarida has one good and one bad review and Flora Nevez has a neutral seeming one on the local board. I might book one of those.[/QUOTE]Yes. Hard to know what to make of Margarida Vaz's latest review on the local board. A 4 out of 10 from a guy who has done 3 out of 10 for two other ladies, and an 8 out of 10 in his other review. He seems difficult to please. He did say that Margarida is stunningly beautiful, but that she starfished in vaginal sex, and left before the hour was up.
It would seem if an active escort is desired that Aurora Alfaiate would be the better choice at EP, since she is also young with a tight body, but gets far more compliments on performance than Margarida or Soraia. But as ExExpatriate pointed out, we are all different on what we want, so reviews have some limits to usefulness.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
As has been pointed out many times, it is simply difficult to find great escorts who have that "just graduated from high school look". If a person can deal with her lack of English, this independent is reviewed as looking young and giving great performance.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
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Difficulty registering on local forum
Hi all,
I can't seem to successfully register on the local board.
It asks for a question to be answered at the bottom, either transcribing some letters of the word Portugal or answering the question "The sunset is beautiful." The opposite of cute is.
I keep getting a message answer not correct and my registration doesn't go through.
I've definitely entered the Portugal letters correctly as I've tried it several different times. What answer would you give to the above sunset question?
Any ideas on what may be happening?
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Hi,
I am looking for an outcall escort who's very good in kissing and has good reviews. Would be great if she's young, and if not then not older than 35.
Thank you in advance and sorry if my question has been answered before but it's not easy to go through all the previous pages.
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On the younger lady side, hopefully EP's new addition Betinha looks like her smoking hot pictures and more importantly performs.
The Apartadox video is shot at close range, which is a very good sign.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/betinha-lacerda/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Betinha-Lacerda-7154[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Moayad86;2747676]Hi,
I am looking for an outcall escort who's very good in kissing and has good reviews. Would be great if she's young, and if not then not older than 35.
Thank you in advance and sorry if my question has been answered before but it's not easy to go through all the previous pages.[/QUOTE]Escort Privada is outcall only and you can communicate with them in English. Lisbon is a GFE city, so kissing is automatic. The problem with reviews is that some reviewers are really into kissing and kissing with tongue, while other reviewers are not, so it is difficult to know how much passion and effort she puts into it. But here is a list of the most recommended younger EP ladies, where kissing is at least mentioned, with some level of ordering based on youth and kissing. There will always be a YMMV factor.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
Sara is early 30's, but gets great reviews on kissing. Joana is late 20's or so, but gets great reviews for everything.
As you can read from the posts below, Soraia is a YMMV lady, but her better reviews lists lots of kissing.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
Among the many other younger EP ladies with GFE reviews, trying to leave off anyone mid-30's or over.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/catarina-rodriguez/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/diana-real/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/lara-lima/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valentina-gomes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
Most independents will do outcall if you ask, although there is likely an additional fee. But their starting rates are lower than EP, so the additional fee for outcall is not unexpected.
Carolina Belmont is actually outcall only and very highly reviewed.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095[/URL]
Among the other younger ones with GFE reviews:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
Valentina Sartori might be incall only since she usually works in a suburb.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Valentina-Sartori-4294[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eller-Rocha-4428[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Giulia-Viana-4962[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
And these ladies are late 20's to early mid-30's, but they are consistently the highest rated Lisbon independent escorts. Remember that Portuguese and Brazilian women age well. They have more reviews than many of the ladies listed above, but I tried to list the youngest independent ladies first. And because of their popularity, they may be more likely to prefer incall, especially with a new customer who they do not know if he is real or not. A fake outcall booking is even more costly to them in terms of time lost.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Patricia-Navarro-3827[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
That should give you plenty to choose from in terms of kissing in addition to BBBJ and covered full service.
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I had this issue too. It took me some time to get around it. My Google Translate was messing with the letters. Try visit the page in Portuguese and answer the question in this language. When I switched between Portugese and English, the capital letters also changed. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2747447]Hi all,
I can't seem to successfully register on the local board.
It asks for a question to be answered at the bottom, either transcribing some letters of the word Portugal or answering the question "The sunset is beautiful." The opposite of cute is.
I keep getting a message answer not correct and my registration doesn't go through.
I've definitely entered the Portugal letters correctly as I've tried it several different times. What answer would you give to the above sunset question?
Any ideas on what may be happening?[/QUOTE]
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Maragarida Vaz
I wish I had access to this review about Maragarida yesterday. The review about her is spot on. I met her on two occasions, the first meeting a couple of weeks ago was disappointing. I had issues with entering her, after 10 minutes she informed me she was on the second day of her period and had a device inserted in her vagina hence we were having these issues as the device restricted easy entry. She does not like to kiss and yes, her hour is 40 minutes. She is very beautiful so I decided to give her a second chance. The meeting last evening was worse than the first one and after 40 minutes I asked her to leave, she just did not want to perform, looked totally bored and was worse than a star fish. Save your money as there are other better escorts in Lisbon.
On the other hand the session I had with Adriana Santos and it was amazing, in my book she is very pretty, lots of tats and bolt-ones and I am no big fan of both but with her it did not seem to matter. It was a GFE, into kissing, not a clock watcher, I would highly recommend her.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2747019]Yes. Hard to know what to make of Margarida Vaz's latest review on the local board. A 4 out of 10 from a guy who has done 3 out of 10 for two other ladies, and an 8 out of 10 in his other review. He seems difficult to please. He did say that Margarida is stunningly beautiful, but that she starfished in vaginal sex, and left before the hour was up.
It would seem if an active escort is desired that Aurora Alfaiate would be the better choice at EP, since she is also young with a tight body, but gets far more compliments on performance than Margarida or Soraia. But as ExExpatriate pointed out, we are all different on what we want, so reviews have some limits to usefulness.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
As has been pointed out many times, it is simply difficult to find great escorts who have that "just graduated from high school look". If a person can deal with her lack of English, this independent is reviewed as looking young and giving great performance.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JohnCorey;2748435]I wish I had access to this review about Maragarida yesterday. The review about her is spot on. I met her on two occasions, the first meeting a couple of weeks ago was disappointing. I had issues with entering her, after 10 minutes she informed me she was on the second day of her period and had a device inserted in her vagina hence we were having these issues as the device restricted easy entry. She does not like to kiss and yes, her hour is 40 minutes. She is very beautiful so I decided to give her a second chance. The meeting last evening was worse than the first one and after 40 minutes I asked her to leave, she just did not want to perform, looked totally bored and was worse than a star fish. Save your money as there are other better escorts in Lisbon.
On the other hand the session I had with Adriana Santos and it was amazing, in my book she is very pretty, lots of tats and bolt-ones and I am no big fan of both but with her it did not seem to matter. It was a GFE, into kissing, not a clock watcher, I would highly recommend her.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the valuable information.
She just got a 5 out of 10 in her latest review on the local board, with largely the same complaints. With that guy, she actually did halfway decent oral sex, but no kissing at all.
He noted that she was hot, but refused to do anything with her hotness from a performance perspective.
Another young EP lady whose stock price went way down after the IPO. It might rise in value again, but it is likely better to let others do the speculating since there are enough highly-rated EP ladies in their mid to late 20's, and early 30's, to provide a solid experience with a relatively young looking lady. And many highly regarded independents in that category as well.
That having been said, I still find it concerning the seeming worldwide lack of GFE 18-22 year olds. I saw one in Madrid last year, and it reminded me of how great they are. I am seeing a lot of fantastic 25-40 year olds currently in various places. That really isn't a problem, except when you think about rolling the clock forward ten to twenty years. I am not really into looking at pictures of their grandchildren during the hour. Maybe a great group of ladies will start in this business when they are in their mid-20's, but that hasn't been how it generally worked. The ladies around 30 now usually started doing this 10 years ago. I don't know. Maybe everything just starts later any more.
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But on a positive note, Camila Pereira just got her second excellent review on the big American escort review board. The reviewer estimated her to be in her early 20's, so she is young and adept at taking care of foreign tourists. Her reviews on the local board are fine, with 7's and 8's out if 10.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
And as noted by John Corey, Adriana Santos consistently gets fantastic reviews. She is a rare Lisbon escort with Ukrainian genes in her family.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
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Do I need local number to contact escorts in Lisbon?
Thank you for all the useful reports and information on this forum. I'm visiting Lisbon soon and look forward to submitting some reports of my own. It's good to see that I can message Escort Privada in English. Do I need a local number (I. E. Local SIM card) or will they answer international numbers?
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[QUOTE=RandyGent;2748913]Thank you for all the useful reports and information on this forum. I'm visiting Lisbon soon and look forward to submitting some reports of my own. It's good to see that I can message Escort Privada in English. Do I need a local number (I. E. Local SIM card) or will they answer international numbers?[/QUOTE]They respond to international numbers.
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Flora Neves
Can anyone share feedback about Flora Neves?
Thank you in advance.
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There was a review on the local board. Flora sounds a lot like Vera Guerra (my experience) and Magardia Vaz (of recent discussion). Another was Matilde Guerra, but she's been retired for years.
There is a class of EP girl that is undeniably hot, but employs tactics to minimize the action, waste time and otherwise wants to leave like 15 min early. Flora might be one of those, but one review is really more a yellow flag than a red flag.
[QUOTE=JohnCorey;2749052]Can anyone share feedback about Flora Neves?
Thank you in advance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2749074]There was a review on the local board. Flora sounds a lot like Vera Guerra (my experience) and Magardia Vaz (of recent discussion). Another was Matilde Guerra, but she's been retired for years.
There is a class of EP girl that is undeniably hot, but employs tactics to minimize the action, waste time and otherwise wants to leave like 15 min early. Flora might be one of those, but one review is really more a yellow flag than a red flag.[/QUOTE]Yes, here is the review:
"Although I've been subscribed to this forum for some time, now I've had the courage for the 1st TD.
I saw the advertisement in the Apartado and, moved by the photos of a beautiful body, just the way I like it, I called this girl to go to the hotel.
It is just like the photos, very well made body and beautiful natural breasts.
She arrived, friendly, talkative and went to the bathroom. In the shower she continued to talk to me, blah, blah, blah.
The bath ended and I approached her to kiss her, as I had said in the contact by Whatsapp that I kissed with tongue. She really did kiss, but only with the tip of her tongue and always running away with her mouth.
I laid her on the bed to kiss her very appetizing pussy. She left for a while and then suddenly gets up and asks what I would like her to do, cutting all the cock.
From now on, she was dispatching it. She kept the time but with a lot of conversation. Flees from action but is good at conversation.
The 5 is for the beautiful body she has but it's a shame her attitude because she could be an excellent fuck if she wanted to.
Even though she had showered, she smelled faintly of sweat under her arms. The pussy was clean without smell.
I never want to see it again. ".
It is a 5 out of 10 review from a reviewer with three reviews. He gave an 8 out of 10 to a busty teen dream girl at a massage parlor who only allowed fondling and no fingers inside, and perfect 10 out of 10 to a 40 year old masseuse who offers full service.
So he seems to be a credible reviewer.
Hopefully she gets better reviews in the future. One review shouldn't make or break an escorting career.
But from a tourist perspective, if one is going for the Teen Dream Girl look, he would be better off giving the unreviewed Betinha Lacerda at Escort Privada a try. She might be great, and of course she might not be.
Or be willing to sacrifice a few years and go for the College Coed look and see more highly reviewed ladies like Maria Conceição, Aurora Alfaiate, or Camila Pereira, who all get multiple great reviews and are described as looking in the early or mid 20's.
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Exactly. When I have the time and opportunity to wash away a potentially bad experience with someone good and reliable, I am willing to take a chance on an unknown. I think it's fun and exciting to make a great find that way, so much so that it's worth the risk of a lemon.
However, I don't always have that kind of time. When I don't, I don't take chances. I stick with ladies I know or ladies with a very well-established track record.
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Been to Lisbon 3 days. Things have gotten worse and worse, unfortunately. Tried to find a decent massage parlour, called them and not a place under 100 euros with masseuse staying in underwear. LOL. At Covid time or little bit before, massage at 60 or 70 euros topless / naked easy to find; it seems that not anymore.
Ok, but girls announcing on Apartadox or Classificadosx? Picked up a good dozens of phone / Whatsapp numbers, contacted them: absolutely no answer. Shame.
I found a "Shalla" center in Alvalade. 90 euros for "mutual massage". There has not been one second of massage, but a very good moment of lick, suck, wank and kiss with a nice Portuguese woman.
It's a chance I had phone number of a girl I see for 6/7 years already that can move to hotels (In Lisbon, not outside) and gives you a dream blowjob for 70 euros.
Not a big fan of escorts that you pay 200 or 300 euros. But anyway, it's not a reason not to have decent quality in girls' services.
Will come back to this city much much much later.
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Thank you for the feedback. I will go with the tried and tested.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2749074]There was a review on the local board. Flora sounds a lot like Vera Guerra (my experience) and
Magardia Vaz (of recent discussion). Another was Matilde Guerra, but she's been retired for years.
There is a class of EP girl that is undeniably hot, but employs tactics to minimize the action, waste time and otherwise wants to leave like 15 min early. Flora might be one of those, but one review is really more a yellow flag than a red flag.[/QUOTE]
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First time visitor
First thanks to all the senior responders for all the information. I had a question- how far in advance do you usually contact providers? Any difference forEP vs independent?
Thanks!
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Ellen
Found a hidden gem based off some reports off the local board, Ellen from classificadosx (offers massage + full service). I saw her a few times, the reviews are pretty spot on: amazing body, very cute face, however she wears a mask the entire time with the exception of moving it to the side for the blowjob (which is very good).
If you can get past the fact that she wears the mask + covered BJ, then I highly recommend. Very affordable also.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/215566-cheia-de-vontade-disp-ate-as-1[/URL]
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Margarida Vaz From EP
I saw her twice. Extremely attractive, pretty face with an amazing body, one of the more beautiful escorts I've ever been with. Looks about 20-22 years old. More tan (which suits her) compared to her pictures on EP. She speaks decent English.
She definitely will try and leave before the hour is up. In my case, she stayed long enough for 2 rounds and then left shortly after, which was fine with me.
Definitely not a GFE experience or passionate sex, but I was satisfied (again, she is very attractive), she did open a bit the second time I booked her, so maybe she is someone that improves with repetition.
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My take on Lisbon
Lisbon has its charm, I will outline the pros and cons from my experience here while also providing a few reviews.
A little about myself, I am in my late twenties and regular visitor to Lisbon.
My opinion here is purely based on punting experiences and nothing to do with the people or city or country. I love Portugal, the food, culture and their women.
So here we go;.
There aren't many places in western Europe where you can find escorts at these rates which is a great thing however, you do get what you pay for. I understand the clientele for luxury escorts isn't really here hence why it is difficult to find or replicate those experiences here in Lisbon but a man can try.
The lowest I go for is €150 and the highest I've paid before for a visit is close to $1,000.
In terms of massage parlours, as per previous posts on here, these are very bad value for money. You paid nearly as much as for an escort who will go the whole way and most of them just do HJ and some don't like guests to touch anything. So definitely another vote here against massage parlours.
Moving in to escorting sites; these are all independent websites and so unlike.
Most other countries / cities where bookings are made via agencies, these are all direct with the ladies so you do get many that fake ages etc.
Apartadox & EP are the two most prominent here. Most reliable but not to be confused with reliable (most girls I booked from here can't stick to a booking schedule or agreed times).
Lots of fake profiles on Euro escort girls website for Lisbon.
MulheresVIP. Multiple bait and switch fakes. If they won't come to your apartment or Airbnb and say they'll only go to a hotel then most likely they are fakes. How do I know this? I booked incalls because I wasn't going to book a hotel room and twice it was a bait and switch. At least I didn't get robbed I guess but still well annoying and waste of time. Totally unprofessional.
Portal Privado. Real girls but low quality selection.
My best experience here at finding an attractive lady has been going myself to elefante Branco and taking her home. So forget about day time bookings.
Mayte. From Apartadox looks like she's in her early 30's. Arrived late, I would give her a 6/10.
Aurora Alfaite. Attractive lady probably in mid to late 20's, speaks English, has good chat. Doesn't like cunnilingus. I'the give her 7/10.
Margarida Vaz. Very attractive probably 20 year old girl but very mechanic experience and yes leaves 15 mins early. Doesn't know how to give a proper blowjob but body was insane 7/10.
Sabrina Barbosa. Cute little Brazilian or cape verdian lady, didn't speak much English. Wasn't my most memorable experience so 6/10.
Soraia Albuquerque. Cute local girl next door kinda girl. I think she has had a back injury or was born with a twisted spine or something. Nice lady but not my type 6/10.
Ariana Pilar. Arrived late, nice body, didn't smell very hygienic and looks older than profile states. 4/10.
Vera Guerra. Made 2 bookings, lady agreed and confirmed she was coming and then some wild crazy stories about why she can't make it, car problems and I don't know what. Decided to not fall for these stories for a third time and won't ever book again.
Catia Bom. Young girl probably 20, does all services advertised, cute with a few birth marks but all in all I would say she wants to please so 8/10.
Marta Castro. Probably my fav here in Lisbon. Very attractive, does all services with pleasure and smiling. Her aim is to please. 9/10.
Barbara Gouveia. Definitely not the age she is advertising, I would say a 40 year old with the body of a 20 year old is the best way to describe this booking. She has good chat and she tries to please 5/10. Low score is for the dishonesty about age because I'm young so I wouldn't normally go for someone approx. 15 years older.
There are others whose profiles are now taken down that I saw 2 years ago etc. And I don't remember their names so have been left out.
I don't know if I'll come back or be active here but thought to share this in the hopes to help others not fall for the catfish and bait and switch tricks and to share my understanding of how things work in this city.
I hope this helps and respect to everyone taking the time to help the rest of us out.
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Thank you very much for the tip. This worked! I would never have figured this out without your help.
[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2748324]I had this issue too. It took me some time to get around it. My Google Translate was messing with the letters. Try visit the page in Portuguese and answer the question in this language. When I switched between Portugese and English, the capital letters also changed. Good luck![/QUOTE]
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Thank you for that wealth of great information, especially about Catia Bom. I hope you don't mind a few follow-up questions.
There has been an information request for her on the local board for a while, so your review of her is particularly appreciated.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Catia-Bom-6582[/URL]
I assume she speaks some English? There is a lot of demand here on ISG for young, attractive English-speaking independent escorts.
Catia lists Completo in her profile and more importantly wears an anal plug in her ad, so I assume she offers anal sex? And I assume she offers BBBJ as part of the session?
Marta Castro gets a lot of great reviews. If I recall correctly the poster Hawk didn't like her as well as he liked Aurora, so I stopped mentioning her as often in the upper echelon of EP providers, but many guys love her, and your high recommendation of her is very much appreciated. They can all differ in enthusiasm from day to day, so the averaging of many reviews is what is most important.
Hopefully Margarida Vaz improves. It is frustrating. An older provider will never get younger, an unattractive provider will never get prettier, and a fat provider will not usually get slimmer (and even if they do if they were big enough at the start there will always be some reminders of the old days). Margarida has all the attributes that other providers would love to have, or to have back, and she could be the undisputed number one escort in Lisbon with some effort, enthusiasm and dedication. Time will tell if we ever see it, or see it before she is older and less attractive.
[QUOTE=Youflat;2749196]Lisbon has its charm, I will outline the pros and cons from my experience here while also providing a few reviews.
A little about myself, I am in my late twenties and regular visitor to Lisbon.
My opinion here is purely based on punting experiences and nothing to do with the people or city or country. I love Portugal, the food, culture and their women.
So here we go;.
There aren't many places in western Europe where you can find escorts at these rates which is a great thing however, you do get what you pay for. I understand the clientele for luxury escorts isn't really here hence why it is difficult to find or replicate those experiences here in Lisbon but a man can try.
The lowest I go for is 150 and the highest I've paid before for a visit is close to $1,000.
In terms of massage parlours, as per previous posts on here, these are very bad value for money. You paid nearly as much as for an escort who will go the whole way and most of them just do HJ and some don't like guests to touch anything. So definitely another vote here against massage parlours.
Moving in to escorting sites; these are all independent websites and so unlike.
Most other countries / cities where bookings are made via agencies, these are all direct with the ladies so you do get many that fake ages etc.
Apartadox & EP are the two most prominent here. Most reliable but not to be confused with reliable (most girls I booked from here can't stick to a booking schedule or agreed times).
Lots of fake profiles on Euro escort girls website for Lisbon.
MulheresVIP. Multiple bait and switch fakes. If they won't come to your apartment or Airbnb and say they'll only go to a hotel then most likely they are fakes. How do I know this? I booked incalls because I wasn't going to book a hotel room and twice it was a bait and switch. At least I didn't get robbed I guess but still well annoying and waste of time. Totally unprofessional.
Portal Privado. Real girls but low quality selection.
My best experience here at finding an attractive lady has been going myself to elefante Branco and taking her home. So forget about day time bookings.
Mayte. From Apartadox looks like she's in her early 30's. Arrived late, I would give her a 6/10.
Aurora Alfaite. Attractive lady probably in mid to late 20's, speaks English, has good chat. Doesn't like cunnilingus. I'the give her 7/10.
Margarida Vaz. Very attractive probably 20 year old girl but very mechanic experience and yes leaves 15 mins early. Doesn't know how to give a proper blowjob but body was insane 7/10.
Sabrina Barbosa. Cute little Brazilian or cape verdian lady, didn't speak much English. Wasn't my most memorable experience so 6/10.
Soraia Albuquerque. Cute local girl next door kinda girl. I think she has had a back injury or was born with a twisted spine or something. Nice lady but not my type 6/10.
Ariana Pilar. Arrived late, nice body, didn't smell very hygienic and looks older than profile states. 4/10.
Vera Guerra. Made 2 bookings, lady agreed and confirmed she was coming and then some wild crazy stories about why she can't make it, car problems and I don't know what. Decided to not fall for these stories for a third time and won't ever book again.
Catia Bom. Young girl probably 20, does all services advertised, cute with a few birth marks but all in all I would say she wants to please so 8/10.
Marta Castro. Probably my fav here in Lisbon. Very attractive, does all services with pleasure and smiling. Her aim is to please. 9/10.
Barbara Gouveia. Definitely not the age she is advertising, I would say a 40 year old with the body of a 20 year old is the best way to describe this booking. She has good chat and she tries to please 5/10. Low score is for the dishonesty about age because I'm young so I wouldn't normally go for someone approx. 15 years older.
There are others whose profiles are now taken down that I saw 2 years ago etc. And I don't remember their names so have been left out.
I don't know if I'll come back or be active here but thought to share this in the hopes to help others not fall for the catfish and bait and switch tricks and to share my understanding of how things work in this city.
I hope this helps and respect to everyone taking the time to help the rest of us out.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you.
The answer to all your questions about Catia Bom and services is a Yes! She's not fluent in English but can easily get by.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2749329]Thank you for that wealth of great information, especially about Catia Bom. I hope you don't mind a few follow-up questions.
There has been an information request for her on the local board for a while, so your review of her is particularly appreciated.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Catia-Bom-6582[/URL]
I assume she speaks some English? There is a lot of demand here on ISG for young, attractive English-speaking independent escorts.
Catia lists Completo in her profile and more importantly wears an anal plug in her ad, so I assume she offers anal sex? And I assume she offers BBBJ as part of the session?
Marta Castro gets a lot of great reviews. If I recall correctly the poster Hawk didn't like her as well as he liked Aurora, so I stopped mentioning her as often in the upper echelon of EP providers, but many guys love her, and your high recommendation of her is very much appreciated. They can all differ in enthusiasm from day to day, so the averaging of many reviews is what is most important..[/QUOTE]
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Most of my communication was via a foreign number. I sometimes get asked to share my live location on WhatsApp just to show that I'm actually in the country and genuinely making a booking.
My best piece of advice is steer clear of MulheresVIP!! Honestly, I'm still fuming at how they waste people's time without any consequences. Maybe it was mentioned before and I missed it but I do really wish I was warned before. The main issue with booking escorts in this lovely city is that there aren't any professional agencies that save everyone time, money and effort by flushing out all these fake profiles and crazy people.
I was genuinely worried a couple of times when making a booking and confirming my address and everything and then end up with a no show and not even an apology or explanation as to what happened or is going to happen. You will be left worried about booking someone else and the first booking rocking up 2 hrs late because they just do what they want here with no agency to regulate.
I am very thankful that I stumbled upon this forum because it does explain and help navigate around but yes I do have a chip on my shoulder about MulheresVIP as they advertise some genuine profiles with fake ones so they make you think they have real people.
Good luck and enjoy your stay. Stick with EP or Apartadox otherwise, you can't go wrong with elefante Branco but expect to pay an extra €50-100 (entry + drinks + taxi there and back).
[QUOTE=RandyGent;2748913]Thank you for all the useful reports and information on this forum. I'm visiting Lisbon soon and look forward to submitting some reports of my own. It's good to see that I can message Escort Privada in English. Do I need a local number (I. E. Local SIM card) or will they answer international numbers?[/QUOTE]
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The real virtue of Lisbon in these terms is the plethora of independent, high quality courtesans charging below pan-European rates that can be visited incall and with a high degree of safety.
If one prefers to pay substantially more for the services of a club or to have a pimp / agency that could just as well send a rotten lemon to your door, well. A guy wants what a guy wants. But I believe that guy would be happier somewhere else.
I agree about MulheresVIP. The only sites worth referencing are Apartadox, Portalprivado, Momentosdeprazer, Docemassgem and Somassagens. Everything else is just way to untrustworthy.
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Genuine Tantric Chiado: short report
Let me start with the fact that being a cheap bastard who mostly plays in Brazil, I wasn't looking for FS and didn't ask if it was available. I was, however, on my never-ending mission to find an elusive, mind-blowing tantric service. Most tantrics in my life were just glorified HJs. I've had exactly TWO real tantric massages in my life that landed me on the Moon: in Hamburg and Siem Reap of all places. But like a true sucker, I keep trying and trying to no avail.
Anyway, I didn't find it there either, but I got a pleasant erotic massage with a superb he. Quite expensive for 130 euro, but oh well. That's Europe.
Here are the rates.
Lingam in lingerie: 80 euro for 30 minutes.
"Sensitive" (whatever that means) topless: 100 for 40 minutes.
Tantric in the nude: 130 for 1 hour.
Nuru: 150 for 1 hour.
I chose Tantric. It was Sunday, and there were 2 girls working, Emma and Kira. Both are Brazilian. We made a 7 PM appointment (went with my buddy). I picked Emma. My buddy took Kira who was available, while Emma was late. She started with a nice light massage then turned me over and finished with a really superb HJ. While it wasn't tantric, it was good enough that I exploded all over the COT. She did short me by about 20 minutes, but I was satisfied and besides I didn't want my buddy to wait for me, so I didn't make an issue about it.
The place is quite upscale with showers in the room. The only thing not everyone will like is that there are cots on the floor instead of a bed or massage table. I had sent a WA message in Google Translate Portuguese, but the receptionist (a young girl who also looks awesome) speaks perfect English, so it's not necessary.
My buddy raved about Kira, and since we reunited at the reception at the same time, I guess, that one wasn't a clock-watcher. Both girls are beautiful with great bodies to match.
[URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com/[/URL]
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I'm glad you enjoyed the service. You say you weren't looking for FS as you are cheap but the irony is that you paid very close to the rate for FS. You paid 130 while FS with ladies from EP would have cost 150.
Also, I know you enjoyed the service but being short-changed by 20 minutes actually made it an even more expensive experience. Personally I would be really annoyed if I only got 40 minutes having paid for an hour (even if the service was good).
I actually visited this same place a few weeks ago but I thought I would be getting FS as well. I can't justify paying the same amount for a 'massage' as I would for FS so I'm only going to return to those places which are well reported as providing massage + FS. But I do enjoy an erotic massage so that's why these places also appeal to me.
[QUOTE=Xpartan;2750095]Let me start with the fact that being a cheap bastard who mostly plays in Brazil, I wasn't looking for FS and didn't ask if it was available. I was, however, on my never-ending mission to find an elusive, mind-blowing tantric service.
Anyway, I didn't find it there either, but I got a pleasant erotic massage with a superb he. Quite expensive for 130 euro, but oh well. That's Europe.
Here are the rates.
Lingam in lingerie: 80 euro for 30 minutes.
"Sensitive" (whatever that means) topless: 100 for 40 minutes.
Tantric in the nude: 130 for 1 hour.[/QUOTE]
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Most complaints about bad service or legitimately unreasonable expense can be addressed simply by doing some homework. The internet has been around for a quarter century. It's what this forum is for.
That we've never referenced Genuine Tantric and it is infrequently discussed on other boards should be seen as a yellow or red flag.
All that said, nuru massage without FS fills a certain niche, namely in that there is zero risk of bringing something home from it. For some fellows, that matters. It's easy to see why. If one is going that route, it's totally unreasonable to expect a steep discount against FS rates. If incall escorts are asking for 120 to 150, most massagistas want 100 to 130. They all confront the same. Overhead, so expecting a massagista to go for 80 an hour like it was 2015 isn't realistic.
We reference what going rates are here frequently, so the only excuse for not knowing them is laziness. All you need to do is skim four or five pages.
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I think many guys on ISG underestimate the ability of full-service escorts to do tantric and to do quality hand jobs, including slow and sensual ones.
I think the best ones to choose are the highest rated escorts. Certainly the ones with an attitude of wanting to please, and ones accustomed to one-hour appointments with the guy cumming twice. A wide variety of service offerings is a plus, as well as CIM. If she specifically mentions sensual massage in her ad, that is a place (or if it is mentioned in a review).
Why? Because she knows a hell of a lot about sex.
She has had older customers who have trouble getting erect and who no longer have enough sensitivity to cum with a condom on. She has learned how to give them a great session and make them cum.
Once a guy is out of the teen and twenties, climaxing twice in an hour is more difficult. The escort has given plenty of hand job finishes for the second cum in an hour.
Escorting is a more difficult job than being a massage lady, and many massage ladies are lazy.
I mention the Nuru Spa in posts due to the never ending questions from guys who are so offended at the thought of treating a sex worker as a professional and making an appointment like every independent and agency escort requests.
But the best escorts know their way around a dick better than any massage lady. All the highest rated escorts, independent or EP, can do Tantric. The lower rated ones at EP would not be good choices. A person wants someone who has a reputation of staying the full hour and trying to please, and offering a second cum, since the second cum is often a tantric session even for younger guys.
Some girls are just better at hand jobs than others. I asked one escort why she is so much better at it than others and she said she learned how to vary her speeds. That is the essence of the tantric process.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2750528]Most complaints about bad service or legitimately unreasonable expense can be addressed simply by doing some homework. The internet has been around for a quarter century. It's what this forum is for.
That we've never referenced Genuine Tantric and it is infrequently discussed on other boards should be seen as a yellow or red flag.
All that said, nuru massage without FS fills a certain niche, namely in that there is zero risk of bringing something home from it. For some fellows, that matters. It's easy to see why. If one is going that route, it's totally unreasonable to expect a steep discount against FS rates. If incall escorts are asking for 120 to 150, most massagistas want 100 to 130. They all confront the same. Overhead, so expecting a massagista to go for 80 an hour like it was 2015 isn't realistic..[/QUOTE]
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Its definitely not their overheads which dictate that they need to charge 130+ for an hour (Nuru is 150-170 at many spa's). Their costs are not anywhere near that level.
I don't agree that it's reasonable paying the same amount for a Nuru massage as FS. You even touch on one of the reasons, namely that FS carries a risk.
However, customers are obviously willing to pay as the spa's must be getting enough business to justify the prices. Personally, I won't be returning to any spa at the above prices where there is no chance of FS.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2750528]Most complaints about bad service or legitimately unreasonable expense can be addressed simply by doing some homework. The internet has been around for a quarter century. It's what this forum is for.
That we've never referenced Genuine Tantric and it is infrequently discussed on other boards should be seen as a yellow or red flag.
All that said, nuru massage without FS fills a certain niche, namely in that there is zero risk of bringing something home from it. For some fellows, that matters. It's easy to see why. If one is going that route, it's totally unreasonable to expect a steep discount against FS rates. If incall escorts are asking for 120 to 150, most massagistas want 100 to 130. They all confront the same. Overhead, so expecting a massagista to go for 80 an hour like it was 2015 isn't realistic.
We reference what going rates are here frequently, so the only excuse for not knowing them is laziness. All you need to do is skim four or five pages.[/QUOTE]
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Go wrong with elefante Branco?
Hi, I know "elefante Branco" means literally white elephant in English.
What does it actually mean?
[QUOTE=YouFlat;2749956]
you can't go wrong with elefante Branco but expect to pay an extra 50-100 (entry + drinks + taxi there and back).[/QUOTE]
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Rents in Lisbon, and in particular how they have risen faster than the rates these ladies charge, disagree with you.
Facts are stubborn things.
Your preferences are your preferences. Your tastes and your money. But a guy who admits he is willing to fork out the equivalent of one hour with an EP girl just to do the sex club thing really shouldn't be arguing costs with anybody.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2750718]Its definitely not their overheads which dictate that they need to charge 130+ for an hour (Nuru is 150-170 at many spa's). Their costs are not anywhere near that level.
I don't agree that it's reasonable paying the same amount for a Nuru massage as FS. You even touch on one of the reasons, namely that FS carries a risk.
However, customers are obviously willing to pay as the spa's must be getting enough business to justify the prices. Personally, I won't be returning to any spa at the above prices where there is no chance of FS.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2750264]I'm glad you enjoyed the service. You say you weren't looking for FS as you are cheap but the irony is that you paid very close to the rate for FS. You paid 130 while FS with ladies from EP would have cost 150.[/QUOTE]Trust me, the irony isn't lost on me, LOL. But it wasn't a mongering trip, and I wasn't even thinking about doing it until I saw a flyer for Genuine Tantric Chiado. And all these words appealed to me.
Would I come back? Hell no, but I'm not terribly upset.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2750566]All the highest rated escorts, independent or EP, can do Tantric. The lower rated ones at EP would not be good choices. A person wants someone who has a reputation of staying the full hour and trying to please, and offering a second cum, since the second cum is often a tantric session even for younger guys.
Some girls are just better at hand jobs than others. I asked one escort why she is so much better at it than others and she said she learned how to vary her speeds. That is the essence of the tantric process.[/QUOTE]Interesting prospective! I would never thought of asking escorts to perform tantric.
It's more than changing speeds though. I would describe it as a long, sweet torture. I thought I'd had tantric a few times in my life until I had real tantric. And man, that's not just a hand job, that's something else entirely.
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[QUOTE=Xpartan;2750848]Trust me, the irony isn't lost on me, LOL. But it wasn't a mongering trip, and I wasn't even thinking about doing it until I saw a flyer for Genuine Tantric Chiado. And all these words appealed to me.
Would I come back? Hell no, but I'm not terribly upset.
Interesting prospective! I would never thought of asking escorts to perform tantric.
It's more than changing speeds though. I would describe it as a long, sweet torture. I thought I'd had tantric a few times in my life until I had real tantric. And man, that's not just a hand job, that's something else entirely.[/QUOTE]I know. I don't have the patience for true tantric, but one of my favorites in Montreal likes it and does it, and explained it to me. I was just using handjob techniques as a cousin, since the lady explaining her excellent handjob technique mentioned the same things about reading her customer and changing pace.
There are simply in every market a group of ladies who truly study sex and can do all the aspects of sex. Usually they will advertise tantric or sensual massage in some manner.
A practical problem with Lisbon is that sex cannot be sold at a massage parlor, although that sometimes happens. To make it clear that some type of erotic activity occurs, the place will often use words like Tantric, even though the ladies there might have no idea what that is, and certainly don't study sex.
Personally, I would look for ladies with a long history of excellent reviews, reviews that indicate they have done sessions of extended length, and advertisements mentioning tantric or sensual massage, or with respect to Eller, a background in massage prior to escorting. The four that meet the criteria are:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=879[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Joana-Montenegro-4360[/URL]
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Facts are indeed stubborn things and basic mathematics would disagree with you. The lady at Genuine Tantric told me I was her 4th customer that day. It was the end of the day and probably her last. She said that was an average day. Sometimes less and sometimes more. She worked 3-4 days per week. A quick calculation tells you she is generating see. 8,000 per month, assuming 20 hours per week maximum and average rate of 130. Let's be clear. Overheads for each lady are a small fraction of these sums!
Also, my point was that I'm happy to fork out EP equivalent rates at spa's if they also include FS. As I said, I believe FS should be more expensive than massage for several reasons, not least that it carries more of a health risk for the lady. If others 'value' massage as highly as FS, so be it. I definitely don't.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2750829]Rents in Lisbon, and in particular how they have risen faster than the rates these ladies charge, disagree with you.
Facts are stubborn things.
Your preferences are your preferences. Your tastes and your money. But a guy who admits he is willing to fork out the equivalent of one hour with an EP girl just to do the sex club thing really shouldn't be arguing costs with anybody.[/QUOTE]
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Seeking Arrangements?
Going to Lisbon in a few weeks and I've been messaging some girls on the site. I seem to be getting a very high response rate, a lot more than anywhere else. And the girls seem to know the exact process involved: Dinner and hotel after. Seems to be +- 200 Euro per meet.
Anyone else with similar experiences?
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That was pretty much my experience. Basically it's a question of the format you want. If you value having an actual date, then maybe SA girls in Lisbon are for you. It's much more time intensive and somewhat more expensive, but if the date time is something you appreciate, then you are golden. I think the odds of winding up with a lemon for a lay are about the same as a blind incall escort.
My attitude when I was trying it is that, eh, if I didn't like her, I could always say no, leave her pissed off, and call an EP girl.
That is assuming that the 200 was if she comes back to your room with you. I was always very clear I reserved the right to say "no" just as she did. Otherwise, it's like an EP date you wish you could get out of, only longer and more expensive.
[QUOTE=Jbob084;2751141]Going to Lisbon in a few weeks and I've been messaging some girls on the site. I seem to be getting a very high response rate, a lot more than anywhere else. And the girls seem to know the exact process involved: Dinner and hotel after. Seems to be +- 200 Euro per meet.
Anyone else with similar experiences?[/QUOTE]
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Yeah, agreed. Although I do think that the sex with a Seeking girl is completely different than with a regular escort.
The quality of girls on Seeking in Lisbon seem to be very high as well. Seems to be a lot of girl next door uni students. I wonder if it's just more acceptable in the culture there etc. Hence the easy game?
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2751273]That was pretty much my experience. Basically it's a question of the format you want. If you value having an actual date, then maybe SA girls in Lisbon are for you. It's much more time intensive and somewhat more expensive, but if the date time is something you appreciate, then you are golden. I think the odds of winding up with a lemon for a lay are about the same as a blind incall escort.
My attitude when I was trying it is that, eh, if I didn't like her, I could always say no, leave her pissed off, and call an EP girl.
That is assuming that the 200 was if she comes back to your room with you. I was always very clear I reserved the right to say "no" just as she did. Otherwise, it's like an EP date you wish you could get out of, only longer and more expensive.[/QUOTE]
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SA in Lisbon
[QUOTE=Jbob084;2751141]Going to Lisbon in a few weeks and I've been messaging some girls on the site. I seem to be getting a very high response rate, a lot more than anywhere else. And the girls seem to know the exact process involved: Dinner and hotel after. Seems to be +- 200 Euro per meet.
Anyone else with similar experiences?[/QUOTE]I just returned from Lisbon, yes, there is a high rate of response from SA girls in Lisbon as is the case from SA girls in Madrid and Barcelona, however, the asking rate in general seems to be 500 Euros and up (for a 9+), and it is not for the evening in my experience, but for an hour or two and most women who responded were very pretty but not from Portugal. A word of caution, make sure you have have a video chat with your prospective date I learned the hard way. I will write a detailed report on my experiences with SA in Spain on a new thread so.
Happy Hunting!
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By in general, do you mean Madrid and Barcelona? I would expect those cities to be more expensive than Lisbon. They are bigger and Spain is wealthier.
It's been more than a year since I dabbled with SA. It doesn't work for me at present because when I am free over there comes in short, unplannable gaps. BUT, the going rate was 200 for a night out plus a couple of hours of fun back at the hotel.
Some girls had GPS and asked double or triple that. That was pretty stupid, given the scale of competition on SA plus the going rates of the escorts. A SB asking for slightly more than the going rate might offer something worth it, but one asking for 500... well, there are plenty of girls in Lisbon just as hot and just as engaging who will jump at half that. Moreover, 500 is almost enough to have two EP girls for two hours.
Like I wrote, the GPS is pretty dumb.
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[QUOTE=Jbob084;2751287]Yeah, agreed. Although I do think that the sex with a Seeking girl is completely different than with a regular escort.
The quality of girls on Seeking in Lisbon seem to be very high as well. Seems to be a lot of girl next door uni students. I wonder if it's just more acceptable in the culture there etc. Hence the easy game?[/QUOTE]I think you have to keep in mind that Lisbon is a first world country with a high education level, and its primary source of immigrant sex workers (from Brazil) meet that same criteria since air travel is expensive. Jobs for young women do not always pay well, and escorting is a supplement.
The recommended ladies listed in the thread are almost entirely college students (some taking their sweet time about it, though), those with jobs in hospitality / retail, and a few who do it full-time but treat it as a profession with an emphasis on customer service. Many reviews include a discussion of the lady scheduling the sessions in between classes or her other job.
The Third World is full of sex workers who were simply not afforded the opportunity to have an education and have never been exposed to the everyday social situations that their well-heeled customers are accustomed to. So the difference between an SA lady and the lowest-end sex workers is quite pronounced. That would be much less so in Lisbon. Some of the locals in the other board enjoy identifying which local incall escorts slip on a nice dress from time to time and go to the White Elephant (or whatever the name of the club is to get the last customer of the evening). I strongly suspect a great number of SA women in Lisbon have escort ads under a different name. As I have mentioned before, numerous Montreal escorts do it, and it is repeated online when they tell their customers. Whether they intend for that to get repeated is another issue. Ladies in sex work are chameleons. The same lady may have different names, different outfits, and even different personalities depending on the customer, how much he is paying, and whether he takes her to an upscale social setting.
If ambiance and marketing makes it feel different for the customer, great. But from a cooking the food in the kitchen perspective in Lisbon, the ingredients all likely arrived at the restaurant from the same delivery truck.
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Mongerer makes a good point. Many of these categories overlap. I spotted three recognizable escorts / massagistas during my dabbling in SA. Two were actively advertising on photo-verified sites at the time, and the third was .... well, since she was on SA, I think it best to describe her as semi-retired.
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Thank you for this. I am interested in the 9+'s you mention but I didn't understand what SA girls mean. Is that a website? I think there were also other abbreviations mentioned like SB girls and GPS. Any idea what these abbreviations mean? Awaiting response with thanks.
[QUOTE=JohnCorey;2751445]I just returned from Lisbon, yes, there is a high rate of response from SA girls in Lisbon as is the case from SA girls in Madrid and Barcelona, however, the asking rate in general seems to be 500 Euros and up (for a 9+), and it is not for the evening in my experience, but for an hour or two and most women who responded were very pretty but not from Portugal. A word of caution, make sure you have have a video chat with your prospective date I learned the hard way. I will write a detailed report on my experiences with SA in Spain on a new thread so.
Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]
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Sure.
SA: Seeking Arrangement.
SB: sugar baby.
GPS: golden pussy syndrome.
[QUOTE=YouFlat;2751614]Thank you for this. I am interested in the 9+'s you mention but I didn't understand what SA girls mean. Is that a website? I think there were also other abbreviations mentioned like SB girls and GPS. Any idea what these abbreviations mean? Awaiting response with thanks.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=YouFlat;2751614]Thank you for this. I am interested in the 9+'s you mention but I didn't understand what SA girls mean. Is that a website? I think there were also other abbreviations mentioned like SB girls and GPS. Any idea what these abbreviations mean? Awaiting response with thanks.[/QUOTE]ISG has a Seeking Arrangement thread if you want to read all about it. Yes, it is a website. You pay a fee to join and browse the ads.
My personal take, particularly as it relates to Lisbon, and Iberia as a whole.
1. Guys who like SA really like it. Like CrossFit enthusiasts, read it with a grain of salt. If you are among those who really like it, great. But keep in mind that there are many who don't.
2. When people say the sex is better from an SA lady, I am skeptical, particularly in a market where BBBJ, multiple pops of vaginal CFS, covered anal, and most traditional aspects of sexual foreplay are offered by escorts. In some situations where the lady views the process as being a quasi boyfriend / girlfriend relationship, there is greater likelihood of the sex including BBFS with SA, particularly if the lady traditionally does BBFS with boyfriends. Whether BBFS is of more positive interest, or instead of more safety and detrimental economic concern, varies from guy to guy. The biggest STD is a baby.
3. Personally, I think what people are really saying is that they enjoy the process better with SA in comparison to booking a more traditional escort (as opposed to the actual sex being better, excluding the BBFS aspect mentioned above). That isn't any different than some guys preferring FKKs and other meeting / interaction clubs over escorts. That is fine with me, but I think it is useful to differentiate the enjoyment component involving the time spent researching the selection of an escort online versus the time in the club, and separately evaluate the sixty seconds spent with the lady from each venue during which your penis thrusted into her vagina, anus, mouth or hand until you came.
4. On that same line of reasoning, I think it is useful to determine the enjoyment a guy obtains from a success in spite of the possibility of rejection. An SA experience is more like dating. There is not the absolute certainty of sex, and many of the guys who most like SA simply reject ladies who mention sex for money too soon after the conversation leaves the SA website (the discussion of sex for money is strictly forbidden on SA since the business arose and continues to operate in jurisdictions where prostitution is illegal). Here is where I compare it to games of chance at what are called State and County Fairs in the USA You might have the opportunity to throw a ball at certain levers and win a prize such as a stuffed animal, which if you are a male player, the stuffed animal is given to the female you desire to copulate with. The winning of the game is more fun in the view of the player if the possibility exists that he will not hit the levers with the ball, or if multiple paid attempts occur before success happens. The fact that the cost of playing the game multiple times exceeds the value of the stuffed animal is not relevant. The game of course is not made so difficult that success rarely occurs. Some people in the commercial sex arena simply like overcoming the possibility of failure.
5. As I mentioned in a previous post, if a person enjoys aspects of the SA process, there are some countries in which SA offers a unique advantage. If you enjoy dinner and intelligent conversation with a lady, many Third-World countries simply do not have many independent and agency escorts capable of fulfilling that desire, whereas SA is a major magnet for them. Mexico is a classic example. SA draws a great number of educated professional women who would otherwise be unavailable to Johns. This is less so in Portugal, but is still worthy of consideration. SA involves WhatsApp Messaging, including the possibility of video chatting, prior to an actual meeting. You can see if she speaks English and whether you like her. The constant exaggeration in escort ads makes that process frustrating. Among the ladies here on ISG who have received compliments about their English fluency and ability to provide enjoyable long-time interaction are Carolina Belmont, Joana Montenegro and Sara Valente. I am sure there are many more, I just mentioned them because they came to mind. But almost every EP profile and a good 75 percent of Apartadox ads list English as a language. If you enjoy booking a four to six hour session that includes dinner and walking around the city, in addition to sex, it is going to be awkward if you find that her English is limited to the word Hello.
6. An unanswered question that might be a long-term advantage to SA in first world countries is whether it is drawing the youngest talent. There is no question that the traditional escort world is seeing fewer entrants by ladies in their older teens and early twenties. Obviously, the hope is that women continue to enter the field in their later twenties and thirties, as opposed to a permanent supply chain interruption. Some theorize that the greater ability to reject customers, and the ability of a female offering her services can join SA for free, has drawn the younger ladies to SA as opposed to more traditional escorting that involves an upfront cost or a cost sharing arrangement with an agency. There is logic to that theory, but a great number of SA reports indicate the greatest enjoyment coming from meetings with women in the 25-40 year old range who are supplementing their income from other jobs and / or supporting children. So I am unconvinced that SA is where the youngest talent has gone. We may simply be going through a period where the 18-22 year olds that are willing to provide dedicated GFE are in worldwide shortage in the commercial sex arena.
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[QUOTE=JohnCorey;2751445]I just returned from Lisbon, yes, there is a high rate of response from SA girls in Lisbon as is the case from SA girls in Madrid and Barcelona, however, the asking rate in general seems to be 500 Euros and up (for a 9+), and it is not for the evening in my experience, but for an hour or two and most women who responded were very pretty but not from Portugal. A word of caution, make sure you have have a video chat with your prospective date I learned the hard way. I will write a detailed report on my experiences with SA in Spain on a new thread so.
Happy Hunting![/QUOTE]If she is watching the clock, she is just there for the money. Just another SW who like to think she is better. Girls who are 9+ are rare. So, it does not matter how they are classified. Just go for it. Don't expect anything special.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2751470]By in general, do you mean Madrid and Barcelona? I would expect those cities to be more expensive than Lisbon. They are bigger and Spain is wealthier.
It's been more than a year since I dabbled with SA. It doesn't work for me at present because when I am free over there comes in short, unplannable gaps. BUT, the going rate was 200 for a night out plus a couple of hours of fun back at the hotel.
Some girls had GPS and asked double or triple that. That was pretty stupid, given the scale of competition on SA plus the going rates of the escorts. A SB asking for slightly more than the going rate might offer something worth it, but one asking for 500... well, there are plenty of girls in Lisbon just as hot and just as engaging who will jump at half that. Moreover, 500 is almost enough to have two EP girls for two hours.
Like I wrote, the GPS is pretty dumb.[/QUOTE]The 500 rate came from a Nordic girl who had moved to Lisbon. I met her at the Skybar, for a drink as per our original arrangement she was smoking hot in her mid thirties so I could not resist, where I live IF I could get someone that hot it would run 3000-4000. I also met a French girl in her late 20's for 400 for an hour. It was definitely worth it. I have been going to Lisbon for 4 years, I have not come across any internet girls that match the two I met via SA. In the end it depends on each individual one man’s 9 could be the other’s 6, I prefer quality over quantity. Spain is another story, I did not indulge in any activities in Barcelona or Madrid as I did not see anyone that was as hot as Ona or Emma of Ok. There are a lot of scammers on SA, caveat emptor!
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Unprotected sex surprise
Hi,
I've been meeting this girl from EP for some time now. She's from Lisbon section on the site but I won't disclose here name. She always put on a condom before penetrative sex. Until last night when she slided it in raw.
It was after I made her cum few times in a row. She was dripping wet and I said something like how bad I wanted to feel her wet pussy on my dick. Anyways, I didn't last long and nutted in her. It was so good but it had me start worrying. Luckily she is on BC so I'm not worried about that thing. She told me she uses a condom with everyone else and that she is clean.
I want to continue meeting her but not sure about the unprotected sex thing. Does anyone here had a similar experience? That is girls from EP in particular that offer or agree to unprotected penetrative sex?
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Unprotected sex surprise
Hi,
I've been meeting this gorgeous girl from EP for some time now. She's from Lisbon section on the site but I won't disclose here name. She always takes care to put on a condom before penetrative sex. Until last night when she didn't.
It was after I made her cum few times in a row. She was dripping wet and I said something like how bad I wanted to feel her wet pussy on my dick. She then rode me raw. I didn't last long and nutted in her.
It was so good but it had me start worrying. Luckily she is on BC so I'm not worried too much about that thing. She told me she uses a condom with everyone else and that she is clean.
I want to continue meeting her but not sure about the unprotected sex thing. Does anyone here had a similar experience? That is, girls in general or from EP in particular that do unprotected penetrative sex?
Thanks.
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One additional thought on Sseking.
From a standpoint of beauty preparation for the encounter and more importantly passionate sex, there can certainly be more incentive for her to up her game if she thinks there will be Long Game Rewards. A big part of Seeking is possible weekly or monthly continuing encounters. And just as relevant, the opportunity for a well traveled customer to fly her to vacation type date trips, at his expense of course.
A local European has a much better chance of pulling this off in Lisbon than an American. This meaning either actually doing it, or giving her the impression of this possibility. So she will possibly make a greater effort by taking a small or moderate chance of making a larger profit.
Of course the guy takes a greater risk of his own emotional attachment and unexpected depletion of resources. In the long game, he could end up paying way more than he ever dreamed possible. Sperm leaves the testicles quite efficiently, and desire goes down almost immediately. Love drains from the brain at a much slower pace. Of course you are the one in love, not her. And it might not just be her, it might be her dependents. It won't be cheesy like the Asian Water Buffalo in Hospital, please help. It is more likely to me Fido or Morris has early stage cancer and the vet says if the expensive surgery is done right way, it will be okay. But if not.
Females are the more intelligent and more conniving of the two genders. I think that is something to keep in mind. One of Seeking's advantages in the USA Is that it is perceived by users as being less likely to be pursued by law enforcement. I am not entirely sure that is true in comparison to independent escorts. But law enforcement is not an issue in Portugal.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2751770]ISG has a Seeking Arrangement thread if you want to read all about it. Yes, it is a website. You pay a fee to join and browse the ads.
My personal take, particularly as it relates to Lisbon, and Iberia as a whole.
1. Guys who like SA really like it. Like CrossFit enthusiasts, read it with a grain of salt. If you are among those who really like it, great. But keep in mind that there are many who don't.
2. When people say the sex is better from an SA lady, I am skeptical, particularly in a market where BBBJ, multiple pops of vaginal CFS, covered anal, and most traditional aspects of sexual foreplay are offered by escorts. In some situations where the lady views the process as being a quasi boyfriend / girlfriend relationship, there is greater likelihood of the sex including BBFS with SA, particularly if the lady traditionally does BBFS with boyfriends. Whether BBFS is of more positive interest, or instead of more safety and detrimental economic concern, varies from guy to guy. The biggest STD is a baby..[/QUOTE]
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Lisbon alternative to ads
Hi, new user and first time visiting Lisbon. I'll be here for the next month.
Been reading various post and it has been helpful in getting myself adjusted to the sex scene here.
Aside from the advertised escort. I want to approach a prostitute in person. Are there more popular area or bars, pubs, or clubs that one can find them?
TIA.
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[QUOTE=FalconStar;2752119]Hi, new user and first time visiting Lisbon. I'll be here for the next month.
Been reading various post and it has been helpful in getting myself adjusted to the sex scene here.
Aside from the advertised escort. I want to approach a prostitute in person. Are there more popular area or bars, pubs, or clubs that one can find them?
TIA.[/QUOTE]Hi FalconStar,
You can try White Elephant (Elefante Branco), lots of working girls of different varieties hang out there, and you can chat with them, negotiate, and take to your hotel. Please note, that entrance ticket there is 50 EUR (and you get two drinks), when you take the girl to hotel you usually have to pay for her drink too. I just give 25 EUR to the barmen (without the drink), and he seemed to be OK with it.
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Margarida Vaz. Hidden Gem (if you are patient)
Hi guys, thanks for running a great forum. I'm new here, but already tried couple of local girls.
So, here we go with my first report:
Name: Margarida Vaz.
Rating: Good (7/10).
Location: Hotel near Picoas.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Face: Freshman student (very young).
Body: just about the same as in photos.
Height: 1. 50's maybe.
Chest: natural, very pleasant, size see.
Body: very good, tanned and soft skin.
General appearance: very good.
Kisses: Resists french kissing, but says that's because she is shy.
Vaginal: good.
Oral: good, but there is room for improvement.
Anal: and / a.
Attitude: Shy, a little bit nervous at first, but when she opens up. A very cute and friendly girl.
Rate: 150 EUR / hour (I took two hours), plus some extras: CIM, Swallow and Rimming Active (each 50 EUR).
Overall review: very young, beautiful and shy girl that apparently has started doing this couple of months ago. Looks a bit nervous, but says it's because she is uncomfortable being in bed with strangers for the first time. This sounds about right, because during the second hour she kinda opened up, started smiling more, and things became more smooth. Willingly takes shower together, but is still very shy and not proactive. Oral is sensual and she even tries to take it deep, but there is a lot of room for improvement. She does CIM and Swallows, with a very cute face. After swallowing, she commented that it was "a lot of cum", and asked for some water to drink. It was actually a super cute question, and I actually become super-horny again just from this question alone. Vaginal is good, anal I did not try (but it's available). Rimming is OK, there is definitely room for improvement, but she really tries. In general, she is incredibly sweet and beautiful girl, with enormous potential, pretty much a "hidden gem". She just needs to work on her being too shy, and perhaps uncomfortable with strangers in bed. But hey, guys, cut her some slack. She is seriously only 18 - 19 years old (and she is authentically being "shy", without faking it. So if you can be patient, be nice to her, and try to slowly work her. You will be going places, and definitely enjoying the show. I think she is worth it.
Thanks for reading the report. I will try to keep 'them coming.
Truly yours,
MrMiguel.
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[QUOTE=Akibono;2751854]If she is watching the clock, she is just there for the money. Just another SW who like to think she is better. Girls who are 9+ are rare. So, it does not matter how they are classified. Just go for it. Don't expect anything special.[/QUOTE]Of course she is there just for the money, it would be delusional to think otherwise. I am not sure about the SW comparison, opining without actually having all the facts is speculation. Yes 9+ are rare they do exist. I could not wrap my head around the reasoning of your quote. To each is own.
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This kind of thing has happened to me before.
Frankly, I don't know why anyone who cares about having a long, quality life would seek out an escort selling BBFS. It's stupid at best or insane at worst.
But that isn't what happened to you. It was a spur of the moment thing with a lady you already know to be careful, from her own track record. That in and of itself means she is probably free of the nastier bugs.
Now going forward I have two suggestions.
First and foremost, get tested. You are probably fine, but still. The nasty bugs are like cancer. You want to know as soon as you can.
Second, don't assume that just because you went BB once that you will in the future. Maybe she is thinking "Oh shit!", and will want to reassert professional control next time around. Or maybe not.
I've had it for both ways with an escort in Portugal. I also had BB be the first step to my going from a client to a lover.
So take it as the compliment it is, whatever happens next. See what happens next, and be cool about it. And take care of yourself.
[QUOTE=Missa56;2752088]Hi,
I've been meeting this girl from EP for some time now. She's from Lisbon section on the site but I won't disclose here name. She always put on a condom before penetrative sex. Until last night when she slided it in raw.
It was after I made her cum few times in a row. She was dripping wet and I said something like how bad I wanted to feel her wet pussy on my dick. Anyways, I didn't last long and nutted in her. It was so good but it had me start worrying. Luckily she is on BC so I'm not worried about that thing. She told me she uses a condom with everyone else and that she is clean.
I want to continue meeting her but not sure about the unprotected sex thing. Does anyone here had a similar experience? That is girls from EP in particular that offer or agree to unprotected penetrative sex?[/QUOTE]
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First you're in West Europe, where the HIV rate is 1/500 or even lower. Second, the odds of HIV during vaginal intercourse for a guy is something like 0. 02% or even lower also.
I remember reading some study years ago about HIV contraction in Africa for guys and near the end of the study they weren't even sure if the (low number) that got infected were bisexual and fucking guys on the side.
Meaning, between the lines, the guys getting HIV are bisexual too. The odds of getting HIV being the penetrative person during anal sex shoots up to like 1/90 , getting it in the ass is like 1/20 or even higher.
So. If you are a straight guy and fuck a woman in the pussy the odds of you getting HIV are so low, you'd have a better chance of getting hit by lighting on a sunny day in the Sahara Desert.
[QUOTE=Missa56;2752088]Hi,
I've been meeting this girl from EP for some time now. She's from Lisbon section on the site but I won't disclose here name. She always put on a condom before penetrative sex. Until last night when she slided it in raw.
It was after I made her cum few times in a row. She was dripping wet and I said something like how bad I wanted to feel her wet pussy on my dick. Anyways, I didn't last long and nutted in her. It was so good but it had me start worrying. Luckily she is on BC so I'm not worried about that thing. She told me she uses a condom with everyone else and that she is clean.
I want to continue meeting her but not sure about the unprotected sex thing. Does anyone here had a similar experience? That is girls from EP in particular that offer or agree to unprotected penetrative sex?[/QUOTE]
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More like the odds of getting struck by lightning in England, or somewhere that actually has rainy weather.
The two probabilities are almost the same. Seriously. I compare it to cancer for a lot of reasons. It's a sound analogy.
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Yes, but one thing that doesn't show up in those studies is the absorption time. For all STDs that require absorption into the bloodstream (especially HIV) there has to be enough time for absorption before going to the bathroom and washing / showering eliminates the possibility of absorption. The absorption time involving a penis is quite long. The straight guys who get HIV almost always were in relationships where they rolled over and went to sleep after unprotected vaginal intercourse, leaving plenty of absorption time. And not surprisingly, uncircumcised men have higher (although it is still a very, very small chance) of getting HIV from unprotected vaginal intercourse. The truth is that even guys who wear condoms religiously get some tiny amount of vaginal fluid on their penis during a GFE session if either party fingers the girls and either party then does a handjob without washing. It isn't as much fluid as unprotected vaginal thrusting with the penis, but it reinforces the fact that the penis, unlike the vaginal and anus, just isn't a very good absorption orifice. The mouth isn't either, unless an a Vive, bleeding cut exists. Obviously, a mouth bleeds more than a penis, so the general advice is not to brush and floss too short of a time before DATY. Vaginal fluid doesn't really stick in the esophagus, and wants the stomach acids go to work, it is neutralized from a standpoint of being absorbed into the bloodstream.
So in short, the study of guys you referenced isn't as applicable to Johns, since Johns usually go to the bathroom and shower sooner after unprotected vaginal sex than those who were studied, and honestly more likely to be circumcised due to the demographics of the ISG participant pool.
This should not be read as condoning unprotected vaginal sex. There are STDs that don't involve absorption into the bloodstream. While washing soon afterward still reduces the likelihood of transmission, it doesn't eliminate the likelihood. And the biggest STD of all is of course a baby.
And none of what I wrote does the female of the gay guy any good. They can't wash sperm off of internal orifices. That is why unprotected penetrative sex is most often unavailable in commercial sex transactions. If she initiates it, that changes things from an ethical perspective, but not from a legal perspective if a baby is produced.
[QUOTE=Jon32;2752434]First you're in West Europe, where the HIV rate is 1/500 or even lower. Second, the odds of HIV during vaginal intercourse for a guy is something like 0. 02% or even lower also.
I remember reading some study years ago about HIV contraction in Africa for guys and near the end of the study they weren't even sure if the (low number) that got infected were bisexual and fucking guys on the side.
Meaning, between the lines, the guys getting HIV are bisexual too. The odds of getting HIV being the penetrative person during anal sex shoots up to like 1/90 , getting it in the ass is like 1/20 or even higher.
So. If you are a straight guy and fuck a woman in the pussy the odds of you getting HIV are so low, you'd have a better chance of getting hit by lighting on a sunny day in the Sahara Desert.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for your input. I'm definitly going to get tests done. Hopefully I remain clean.
Do you know if and where I may get these tests in Portugal? I'm on a tourist visa.
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The last time I checked, you need to wait 3 weeks for an HIV test to yield an accurate result. It used to be 6 months.
I would wait until I got home. This really is a just in case precaution. The probability is very low. It just isn't a near zero kind of low.
I think some people on these forums downplay these risks too much, and kid themselves quite a lot. But that said, to catch an STI 1) your partner must have it, which is where demonstrating care and precautions matters a lot 2) you need to be either a little or a lot unlucky.
For warts, it's a little unlucky. That is why 4 out of 5 living humans have that bug (I've never understood why HPV is demonized when almost everyone in a certain demographic has it). For heteros and HIV, it's very, very unlucky. The other bugs are in between.
[QUOTE=Missa56;2752461]Thanks for your input. I'm definitly going to get tests done. Hopefully I remain clean.
Do you know if and where I may get these tests in Portugal? I'm on a tourist visa.[/QUOTE]
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Hotel with freelancers?
Going to stay in Lisbon tonight. I am planning to check out Elefante Branco but wondering if there are other places with freelancers, maybe at hotel, bars etc?
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Expense for taking out Elefante Branco ladies?
Hi,
I am wondering about an experiences with Elefante Branco club ladies.
Would anyone share an experiences like expense to take out ladies, which day is the best day to visit or overall quality of club ladies?
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[QUOTE=PresterJohn;2752562]Hi,
I am wondering about an experiences with Elefante Branco club ladies.
Would anyone share an experiences like expense to take out ladies, which day is the best day to visit or overall quality of club ladies?[/QUOTE]Please note, that not all ladies from Elefante Branco go out, some of them just dance there in private, and try to lure you into paying money for hugely-overpriced champagne bottles and just spend time with them there, prices start from 300 EUR. They can also do Oral, or even FS there in private, and you will have to negotiate rates with the girl (and yes, she will try to overcharge you most likely). I do not appreciate that, and don't recommend getting involved in this questionable scenario, but it depends on what you want.
To go out with you, girls usually charge in a region of 300-400 EUR, for one hour and only one contact, which is also kinda overpriced, but if the girl is hot, and you really want to get things going. It's OK, not the end if the world. Things will happen, but obviously with a premium surcharge. I have managed to negotiate and drop rates from 400 down to 300 to go out, it's possible if you're nice to girl, and work your conversation slow and smooth.
You can go there, have a drink, have a look, just chat with girls, and see it for yourself. Just don't get carried away. That's the whole point.
Good luck!
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Leaving aside the issue of individual tastes, this sort of thing just leaves me smh. The same guys who will ***** and moan about how 150 is too expensive for an incall escort or about how that EP girl wasn't exactly perfect will then go to a club and drop 150 just on admission and drinks, and more than twice as much on the company.
And as we have long established many (if not most) of the club girls are also incall escorts. They are not in a different class.
It really is a stupid amount of money to blow when the only thing you get for it is a bling format.
[QUOTE=MrMiguel;2752648]To go out with you, girls usually charge in a region of 300-400 EUR, for one hour and only one contact, which is also kinda overpriced, but if the girl is hot, and you really want to get things going. It's OK, not the end if the world. Things will happen, but obviously with a premium surcharge. I have managed to negotiate and drop rates from 400 down to 300 to go out, it's possible if you're nice to girl, and work your conversation slow and smooth.
You can go there, have a drink, have a look, just chat with girls, and see it for yourself. Just don't get carried away. That's the whole point.
Good luck![/QUOTE]
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Thank you very much for both of you ExExpatriate and MrMiguel, the info is very helpful!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2752812]Leaving aside the issue of individual tastes, this sort of thing just leaves me smh. The same guys who will ***** and moan about how 150 is too expensive for an incall escort or about how that EP girl wasn't exactly perfect will then go to a club and drop 150 just on admission and drinks, and more than twice as much on the company.
And as we have long established many (if not most) of the club girls are also incall escorts. They are not in a different class.
It really is a stupid amount of money to blow when the only thing you get for it is a bling format.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PresterJohn;2752562]Hi,
I am wondering about an experiences with Elefante Branco club ladies.
Would anyone share an experiences like expense to take out ladies, which day is the best day to visit or overall quality of club ladies?[/QUOTE]I posted something last year. Some ladies just do it for the drinks, others go with men.
It is important that you make it clear what you want before you buy the first drink. Because yes, they will ask for you to buy a drink for them to stay with you.
Last year the place was packed and there were all kind of woman. The average price then was 200 if you negotiated or even a low 150. I did not and paid 300, but she was 10 body and face wise.
I got offered a threesome for 400 (200 each).
Can't say what the quality on a specific day is. You will have to visit, but pick a day start on Wednesday in the week.
To not go broke find the girl you want based on looks. Determine if she goes with men. Buy her one drink to soften her up and continue talk so you both know what to expect and negotiate.
If agreed, there is a pension near buy for a quick fuck. Comes at an additional price for the room.
Speaking Portuguese will be a big advantage.
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Ella Secret
Having been a reader and beneficiary of this forum for a long time I believe it is my time to contribute.
I lately had an encounter with Ella Secret. I can confirm she is a gordius and very service minded lady. The one you would fantasize to shag and dream to wake up next to.
She was very attentive and understood all my needs during the act.
Price a little bit on the upper side with 200 price for one hour incall including A-level. But when I entered the door, I was in no position to turn any offer from Ella down. I would dream about her for the rest of my life.
Of note,
I tried to contact a few girls (including my top priority Ella) the day before via text messages. Only two out of six responded. To me it indicates the necessity of going via Whatsapp as it is much easier for the girl to transfer to Google Translate. In fact "English speaking" may only indicate the girl has an app to communicate via in English. Ella and I communicated that way and it was funny and worked OK.
From the other dialogues with service-providers I found out that some girls may advertise as "completo" but you need to check. Sometimes they're not.
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Lisbons massage parlors
Hey guys,
I usually like visiting massage parlors when I venture to a new place.
I'm aware (due to previous threads) that some see them as a waste due to the price etc. But would anybody have recommendations? I guess its very unlikely but a plus would be a parlor that would also offer full service.
Thanks.
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First, a fair price to pay for a body to body, HJ massage in central Lisbon these days is 100 to 130. It can get down to 80 in the suburbs, but that is the old going rate and fast disappearing.
It's not really overpriced. Regardless of the service being offered, the space costs the same. Because of this, the rate for nuru, HJ massage and FS incall have been about 20 e apart going back to 2006. So, as long as she puts on a great show and isn't over 130, she or the spa isn't asking too much.
The real question is what kind of service do you want: are you looking for FS, HJ only or both?
[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2753256]Hey guys,
I usually like visiting massage parlors when I venture to a new place.
I'm aware (due to previous threads) that some see them as a waste due to the price etc. But would anybody have recommendations? I guess its very unlikely but a plus would be a parlor that would also offer full service.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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A reviewer on the local board did a review of Teresa Torres of Escort Privada, which is the first review of Teresa. This reviewer had previously given Catarina Rodriguez a 7 out of 10, and he gave Teresa ac7 out of 10, also.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/teresa-torres/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Teresa-Torres-7176[/URL]
The review is detailed and answers most questions anyone might have regarding Teresa. Here is the translated version of tge review:
"Name: Teresa Torres.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Age: says 18 but must be around 23.
Body: Lots of Tattoos and some piercings.
Oral: 10/07, no condom, depth control by hand, but went to the bottom a few times.
Vaginal: 10/08, very good, a lot of sensitivity in that clitoris, the GP almost came while stimulating her.
Anal: 0/10, does it with extra, was willing to pay for the extra, but the usual excuse is the size.
Kiss: 5/10, initially she didn't kiss, but after being stimulated it seems that she forgot and kissed.
Attitude: very friendly, attentive.
Hygiene: Very good, first GP I see going to the baths and brushing teeth before and after.
Time control: there was.
Initially this GP that I had my eye on, but like the other GP, even with an appointment 30 minutes before the appointment, he tells me that he couldn't and suggested two and I chose Teresa.
The GP has a fit body, better than in the photos (in my opinion) she says she's been in this for a relatively short time.
The clash was good, it started with the oral, pay more attention to the head, few dunks but let them stimulate you and I think that's where the secret is.
We moved on to Acão and she was already very stimulated, she started on all fours and I was hammering and at a certain point she asked me to pull her hair and I still gave her more force, but it would seem that she still wanted more forcefully. We traded a few positions, and I ended up in DOG.
I see many TDs in which the confreres catch starfish, this one is anything but a very participatory starfish.
As I mentioned we didn't do anal, the GP claimed the usual excuse that she only does it if she's small. ".
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Thank you very much for the review of Ella Secret. She is one of those magical ladies who consistently gets all 8's, 9's and 10's out of 10 on the local board reviews, and in fact they are weighted towards 9's and 10's. She shows her face in the ads, and even more close-up in WhatsApp, and her face looks even prettier when she shows it in her WhatsApp profile picture. Here is her link to make it easier to find her.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
[QUOTE=ToContribute;2752985]Having been a reader and beneficiary of this forum for a long time I believe it is my time to contribute.
I lately had an encounter with Ella Secret. I can confirm she is a gordius and very service minded lady. The one you would fantasize to shag and dream to wake up next to.
She was very attentive and understood all my needs during the act.
Price a little bit on the upper side with 200 price for one hour incall including A-level. But when I entered the door, I was in no position to turn any offer from Ella down. I would dream about her for the rest of my life.
Of note,
I tried to contact a few girls (including my top priority Ella) the day before via text messages. Only two out of six responded. To me it indicates the necessity of going via Whatsapp as it is much easier for the girl to transfer to Google Translate. In fact "English speaking" may only indicate the girl has an app to communicate via in English. Ella and I communicated that way and it was funny and worked OK.
From the other dialogues with service-providers I found out that some girls may advertise as "completo" but you need to check. Sometimes they're not.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks to you, and everyone giving young Margarida Vaz so much practice in her development as a sex worker.
She just got a review on the big American review board from a guy who has also reviewed Camilla Pereira and Soraia Albuquerque from Escort Privada.
He gave Margarida Vaz a slightly lower score than Camilla and Soraia, but of course tastes vary and the primary reason he liked Camilla and Soraia better was that the reviewer loves anal sex, and it became very clear early in the session that Margarida really didn't want to do anal even though he was offering the surcharge. She became friendlier after that. Something to keep in mind. That was in fact the theme of his entire review. She did BBBJ and kissing, but neither was fantastic at first, nor was vaginal missionary. But when they switched to her being on top, Margarida got increasingly wet and delivered an excellent performance and was more friendly and passionate, including post coital kissing, after that.
Maybe some more details that might be useful in having a good session with her.
[QUOTE=MrMiguel;2752260]Hi guys, thanks for running a great forum. I'm new here, but already tried couple of local girls.
So, here we go with my first report:
Name: Margarida Vaz.
Rating: Good (7/10).
Location: Hotel near Picoas.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Face: Freshman student (very young).
Body: just about the same as in photos.
Height: 1. 50's maybe.
Chest: natural, very pleasant, size see.
Body: very good, tanned and soft skin.
General appearance: very good.
Kisses: Resists french kissing, but says that's because she is shy.
Vaginal: good.
Oral: good, but there is room for improvement.
Anal: and / a.
Attitude: Shy, a little bit nervous at first, but when she opens up. A very cute and friendly girl.
Rate: 150 EUR / hour (I took two hours), plus some extras: CIM, Swallow and Rimming Active (each 50 EUR).
Overall review: very young, beautiful and shy girl that apparently has started doing this couple of months ago. Looks a bit nervous, but says it's because she is uncomfortable being in bed with strangers for the first time. This sounds about right, because during the second hour she kinda opened up, started smiling more, and things became more smooth. Willingly takes shower together, but is still very shy and not proactive. Oral is sensual and she even tries to take it deep, but there is a lot of room for improvement. She does CIM and Swallows, with a very cute face. After swallowing, she commented that it was "a lot of cum", and asked for some water to drink. It was actually a super cute question, and I actually become super-horny again just from this question alone. Vaginal is good, anal I did not try (but it's available). Rimming is OK, there is definitely room for improvement, but she really tries. In general, she is incredibly sweet and beautiful girl, with enormous potential, pretty much a "hidden gem". She just needs to work on her being too shy, and perhaps uncomfortable with strangers in bed. But hey, guys, cut her some slack. She is seriously only 18 - 19 years old (and she is authentically being "shy", without faking it. So if you can be patient, be nice to her, and try to slowly work her. You will be going places, and definitely enjoying the show. I think she is worth it.
Thanks for reading the report. I will try to keep 'them coming.
Truly yours,
MrMiguel.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2753354]First, a fair price to pay for a body to body, HJ massage in central Lisbon these days is 100 to 130. It can get down to 80 in the suburbs, but that is the old going rate and fast disappearing.
It's not really overpriced. Regardless of the service being offered, the space costs the same. Because of this, the rate for nuru, HJ massage and FS incall have been about 20 e apart going back to 2006. So, as long as she puts on a great show and isn't over 130, she or the spa isn't asking too much.
The real question is what kind of service do you want: are you looking for FS, HJ only or both?[/QUOTE]That's kind of the price I was expecting. I don't mind paying up if you know and and are happy with the price. Some people like different things and would be willing to pay what they're looking for.
I'm leaning more towards FS but would like it after a massage. Preferably in one of the spas if you know of anywhere?
Thanks.
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As Mongerer has written, most escorts will offer a massage, but it isn't their forte. I am guessing that by emphasizing a spa, you want a proper body to body experience. That is what I will run with.
The best spa for that right now is L'ESSENCE. It is in Alges and isn't convenient from central Lisbon. But all the ladies are advertising on photo-verified sites; all have 7+ reviews on the local board, some here, and a few were independents prior to going to that spa; and all offer FS.
[URL]https://www.lessence.pt/[/URL]
For independents offering a similar service, Cleo is well-regarded. Our own Kama Leo vouches for her.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
Lia also rates well, but it is unclear if she still offers FS.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1142-lia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
You might want to ask if the massage is "com convivo" to confirm FS.
[QUOTE=StarryGuy;2753464]That's kind of the price I was expecting. I don't mind paying up if you know and and are happy with the price. Some people like different things and would be willing to pay what they're looking for.
I'm leaning more towards FS but would like it after a massage. Preferably in one of the spas if you know of anywhere?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]
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Now for massagistas not offering FS.
I think Delirium is the best spa to go for that right now. Reports indicate there are less or none of the upsell tactics these places often use to jip you out of an extra 20-30 euros; not all the ladies there have been reviewed, but those that have been got good marks. And all their ladies are also on photo-verified sites.
https://deliriospa.pt/
Three ladies are working in spas, but reports endorse the one lady and not anyone else at the spa. So, book with them in advance.
Sol at Mandala.
[URL]https://eroticmassagelisboa.com/sol/[/URL]
Jenny at Lotus.
[URL]http://www.lotusmassage.pt/jenny/[/URL]
Evah at Allure.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/750-evah-ucraniana-massagista-sensual-atende-gabinete-luxo-lisboa[/URL]
And as for independents, Isis is on fire on the local board.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2753658]For independents offering a similar service, Cleo is well-regarded. Our own Kama Leo vouches for her.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/cleo-3/[/URL]
Lia also rates well, but it is unclear if she still offers FS.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1142-lia-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
You might want to ask if the massage is "com convivo" to confirm FS.[/QUOTE]Cléo is quite good, even if not outstanding. Lia too, in a very sweet & slow mood. Last time I was with her FS was clearly on offer.
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Visiting Lisbon
I am visiting Lisbon in November. I have read over 45 pages of this Lisbon thread. It contains a wealth of very useful information. Unlike some other threads, you guys are gentlemen, not bogged down with argumentative and annoying posts. Please keep up the good work.
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2754186]I am visiting Lisbon in November. I have read over 45 pages of this Lisbon thread. It contains a wealth of very useful information. Unlike some other threads, you guys are gentlemen, not bogged down with argumentative and annoying posts. Please keep up the good work.[/QUOTE]Welcome to Lisbon!
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Thank You
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2754569]Welcome to Lisbon![/QUOTE]Thank you. Actually I am looking forward more to eating Portuguese foods. Ha Ha.
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2755207]Actually I am looking forward more to eating Portuguese foods. [/QUOTE]At least as good as Portuguese women: [URL]https://www.lisbonlux.com/lisbon-restaurants/traditional-portuguese.html[/URL].
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2755379]At least as good as Portuguese women: [URL]https://www.lisbonlux.com/lisbon-restaurants/traditional-portuguese.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks, Gave meidea of where to take the wife for her Birthday in March.
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Thanks Kama
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2755379]At least as good as Portuguese women: [URL]https://www.lisbonlux.com/lisbon-restaurants/traditional-portuguese.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks for the list. I have eaten Portuguese cuisine in New Bedford in Massachusetts, Malacca in Malaysia and Macao. Looking forward to the original.
Funman13.
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One of my favorite reviewers on the UK Punting site just dropped three detailed reviews of EP ladies, two of which are new ladies who previously had no reviews. I like a lot if the same things that this excellent reviewer does, so I pay a lot of attention to his reviews.
Here is his review of Marcella Moniz.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL]
"Next we have Marcela Moniz.
Saw her very recently and had my expectations exceeded. Booked for 1. 5 hours at 250 euros outcall.
She is a tiny thing, standing at just around five feet, I estimate. Facially her looks may not be to everyone's liking; not a classical beauty. Certainly more of an alternative look, with her cropped hair, charmingly gapped teeth and a smattering of tattoos. Think of her as your girlfriend from Williamsburg, pre-gentrification.
She does not speak any English, but will cheerfully use Google translate and body language to make a point. No real problems there, despite the lack of language.
Her body is a taut, tight, little thing. She does capoeira and dance, and it shows. Tight all over with muscles underneath a layer of baby fat. Her age of 18 sounds right, or she must be not far off it. Into the room and she goes straight into a DFK clinch. Excellent DFK, I give it a 9/10. After plenty of that, she dives into OWO, which was above average, give it a 7/10. She is very amenable to being picked up, which I did, and pressed against the wall while being mercilessly DFKed.
She also seems to genuinely love a good spanking. Each spank elicits a yelp of pain and pleasure and whimpers as she anticipates the next one. Whenever I stopped, she would grab my hand and slap it against her ass. She wanted more spanking.
She is very tight and quite shallow but did not complain about taking a pounding. She is also quite orgasmic and responded quite well to a deep tonguing. Oh yes, I forgot to mention I paid an extra 30 euros for rimming, given how good her DFK was. The rimming was probably a 8 or 9/10. Long, slow and sensual. She certainly knows her way around some of the escort's darker arts.
She freely shared her Instagram account with me, the first EP girl to do so. She has a decent sized following, so it's intriguing that she's not charging a premium for the opportunity to bang her. She was very enthusiastic about the prospect of a duo, being genuinely bisexual, so I have a couple of ideas brewing now. ".
And his review of Flora Neves.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
"Next up was another nice find, Flora Neves.
A genuine 19 year old student, studying cinema studies. Very tall at nearly six feet. Like Ines, she is no great beauty, and also like Ines she is crowned with flowing curly brunette locks. But as one escort who has seen clients with her told me, I began to understand why she escorted once her clothes came off.
She has very long legs and a long torso, and neck as you might expect for her height. She is very slim, and possesses the most glorious pair of 19-year-old the cups. Exactly as pictured, with large, pink, areola. She does have some stretch marks between her bosom, but once your face is in there, you will scarcely notice.
On services, I didn't request any extras. Just plain vanilla. Her DFK was excellent, if I recall, probably an 8/10. OWO was enthusiastic and prolonged, probably a 7/10. The sex was great as she is very tight and seemed to really enjoy it. I brought her to orgasm with tongue and penetration, so she is also quite orgasmic, which is something I always look for with escorts that I enjoy. High levels of service and willing to please. I booked her for a 1 hour session initially and then a longer two hour session the next day before I caught my flight. I plan to see her a third time on my current trip.
Has average English".
And finally Ines Peres, who has been reviewed here on ISG before. Note that in his review, Ines did BBBJ, which if I recall correctly was something of an open question.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ines-pires/[/URL]
"Inês Pires. Ines had excellent English.
Probably did 1 HR, which is what I usually do for a first meet. 150 eur outcall.
Inês is slightly older, probably early 30's. She is no great beauty facially. Quite pedestrian. She has a glorious mane of that typical Portuguese curly hair. But where she shines is her taut, tight, musculature. She does Muay Thai boxing and has developed a fantastically well defined back. Nicely sculpted shoulders and a taut and lean mid section. Her hips and thighs and also lean and well muscled. It's the physique of a fighter, not a weight lifter. She also seems genuinely up for it, with unlimited DFK, enthusiastic moans, and a seeming craving for a fucking. Her DFK is perhaps a 6 out of 10 -- not the most sensual. But her OWO if I recall was quite good, probably a 7. She offered her ass to me for anal, but I couldn't get it in. No butt plug to aid in the process either. And the sex was great, she seemed to enjoy spanking and hair grabbing. One downside with her body is her breasts are a little deflated. ".
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I had a go with Adriana Santos of EP, formerly known as Bianca Pereira.
She has East Slavic parents and looks it--blonde, sharp facial features. So very East European and not Portuguese, and I know that is a thing for some fellows. Adriana is 30, has had a very good boob job, and a few large, but not trashy tattoos. She is a pretty woman, with a bubbly disposition.
As for performance, she is able and accommodating, but not outstanding in any way. OWO, kissing and FS were OK, but nothing to rave about. Although more GFE than P.S., her work feels like a rote performance.
Basically, she is a solid 7 by local board standards. For the EP roster, she isn't a first choice, but easily sits among the second tier if the first choice isn't available (and what I described is your thing).
Now, about Flora Neves. She got a strongly negative review on the local board, so our current information is one strongly positive and one strongly negative. That negative review described her as one of the EP girls who shows up, doesn't engage with you, and looks to leave as as soon as she can get away with it.
Weighing these two reports against each other, I think it's a YMMV case. Maybe she fancies you and maybe she doesn't? If you are confident and willing to roll the dice on that stake, she could be worth it. If not, she doesn't sound like a good bet.
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Lisbon Next Weekend
I will be in Lisbon on Nov. 12. I was researching the following WGs who will be near my hotel. I probably have only two chances max and my timing will be last minute. So I will try to make contact with them on WhatsApp now. If Mongerer88 or anyone else have intel on them, please oblige. Thank you.
Alana: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/Alana[/URL].
Anelka Ribeiro: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnelkaRibeiro[/URL].
Barbara: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/Barbara[/URL].
Doce Lis: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/DoceLis[/URL].
Jennifer PT: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL].
Love Scandal: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/LoveScandal[/URL].
Patricia Telles: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/PatriciaTelles[/URL].
Valentina Ferraz: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/ValentinaFerraz[/URL].
Vitoria Ramos: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/VitoriaRamos[/URL].
Although I only have two opportunities, I want to research as many girls as possible in case they are not available in my time frame. Thank again.
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2758710]I will be in Lisbon on Nov. 12. I was researching the following WGs who will be near my hotel. I probably have only two chances max and my timing will be last minute. So I will try to make contact with them on WhatsApp now. [/QUOTE]From your list, Jennifer PT is very good. I've been with her a couple of times. She is a veteran courtesan, Portuguese, pretty and firm with a mid-sized boob job, and in her middle 30's. On the local board, she is the kind of lady who scores a 7 or an 8 consistently, and I can't recall anyone ever having said a bad thing about her.
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Thanks.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2758735]From your list, Jennifer PT is very good. I've been with her a couple of times. She is a veteran courtesan, Portuguese, pretty and firm with a mid-sized boob job, and in her middle 30's. On the local board, she is the kind of lady who scores a 7 or an 8 consistently, and I can't recall anyone ever having said a bad thing about her.[/QUOTE]Thanks ExExpatriate. I will keep her on the list.
Funman13.
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Any particular reason for narrowing your search to [URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com[/URL] ladies?
I don't know any of the ladies you mentioned but, If you browse through my previous posts, you'll find a lot of great options.
By the way, where is your hotel located?
[QUOTE=FunMan13;2758710]I will be in Lisbon on Nov. 12. I was researching the following WGs who will be near my hotel. I probably have only two chances max and my timing will be last minute. So I will try to make contact with them on WhatsApp now. If Mongerer88 or anyone else have intel on them, please oblige. Thank you.[/QUOTE]
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Took a look through the local review boards.
As ExExpatriate mentioned Jennifer PT (who also goes by Eva Sanchez) has a sterling reputation, including for seeing English speakers. Of your list, she should be on top. The only issue being whether she will be available on as short of notice as you want.
From the rest of the list, three ladies have an abundance of good reviews in comparison to (any) bad reviews. They haven't been on any recommended lists in the past because we just don't know how good they are in seeing English-speaking tourists. One of them, Patricia Telles, gets complaints from even the local Portuguese, about not returning messages.
But these three are the ones (other than the already recommended Jennifer PT) who have overall great reviews on the local board and who you might consider contacting, in this order based on reviews from the local board. An initial contact now would help you understand how quickly they respond to messages, and allow you to ask questions about English fluency level and whether they accept appointment requests with little advance notice. If English is important to you (I don't knit if it is) you are less likely to find English-speaking ladies among the Brazilian ladies, which most of your list is composed of. But based on the reviews, for a quick session, these three additional ones should deliver a great session if they will accept a session on short notice.
Valentina Ferrz.
Doce Lis.
Patricia Telles.
[QUOTE=FunMan13;2758710]I will be in Lisbon on Nov. 12. I was researching the following WGs who will be near my hotel. I probably have only two chances max and my timing will be last minute. So I will try to make contact with them on WhatsApp now. If Mongerer88 or anyone else have intel on them, please oblige. Thank you.
Alana: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/Alana[/URL].
Anelka Ribeiro: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/AnelkaRibeiro[/URL].
Barbara: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/Barbara[/URL].
Doce Lis: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/DoceLis[/URL].
Jennifer PT: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT[/URL].
Love Scandal: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/LoveScandal[/URL].
Patricia Telles: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/PatriciaTelles[/URL].
Valentina Ferraz: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/ValentinaFerraz[/URL].
Vitoria Ramos: [URL]www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/VitoriaRamos[/URL].
Although I only have two opportunities, I want to research as many girls as possible in case they are not available in my time frame. Thank again.
Funman13.[/QUOTE]
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Saldanha Station
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2759101]Any particular reason for narrowing your search to [URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com[/URL] ladies?
I don't know any of the ladies you mentioned but, If you browse through my previous posts, you'll find a lot of great options.
By the way, where is your hotel located?[/QUOTE]Very near Saldanha Station. Momentos de Prazer gives a map of the WG's location (I think).
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Thanks Mongerer88
Thanks Mongerer88. I will surely take your advice. Will contact them now. Speaking English will be a plus but not necessary. I have mongered in Rio de Janeiro, Central America and Mexico. I have done Koreans, Japanese, Laotians, Burmese, remote parts of China, etc. I don't speak their languages. Hand signals should work.
Funman13.
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Saldanha
Yes Funman, from your list I gathered you are to be staying in the Saldanha / Picoas area.
To that, I add:
Kelly Fontini / Lara Chaves: she is a Brazilian veteran (she has been working in Lisbon longer than I can remember) who pretty consistently clocks 7 on the local board.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Kelly-Fontini-1789[/URL]
Ella Secret: a recently arrived Brazilian who is getting strong marks on the local board and here.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret--6513[/URL]
And Maisa recently left the spa in Alges and is working independently in that area. She offered FS at the spa, and also gets good marks from the locals:
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1227-maisa-massagista-sensual-lisboa
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Bia
[QUOTE=FunMan13;2759222]Very near Saldanha Station. [/QUOTE]In a 3 minute walk from Saldanha Square to Avenida Fontes Pereira de Melo, go and meet the very, very good Bia Santos: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL] : amazing BBBJTC, DATY, A-Level, everything you'll want she will be ready to provide. And always with a big smile in her beautiful face.
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Thanks
Wow, thanks Kama LEão, ExExpatriate and Mongerer88. That's more than enough ammo to last a week or two. What's the "fee"? 150-200 Euros?
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2759546]Wow, thanks Kama LEo, ExExpatriate and Mongerer88. That's more than enough ammo to last a week or two. What's the "fee"? 150-200 Euros?
Funman13.[/QUOTE]The going rate for incall is between 120 and 150, leaning more towards 150. There are some well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but none I'm aware of are under discussion for your immediate location.
My advice is if they ask 200 for incall, they are trying to slap a tourist tax on you. There is no need to pay it, not with so many options.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2759546]What's the "fee"? 150-200 Euros?
[/QUOTE]Bia charges 120€/1 hour. But she's not a clockwatcher.
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Just want to say that I tried to see her recently and having arranged a time for around 6 hours later, she sent me a message 2 hours before meeting asking me to confirm. I took 20 minutes to reply (wasn't at my phone), and she cancelled my booking saying that I had taken too long to reply. It was very poor of her to cancel like that.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2759295]In a 3 minute walk from Saldanha Square to Avenida Fontes Pereira de Melo, go and meet the very, very good Bia Santos: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL] : amazing BBBJTC, DATY, A-Level, everything you'll want she will be ready to provide. And always with a big smile in her beautiful face.[/QUOTE]
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She quoted me 150 if I went to her apartment, and she wanted 200 + Uber to come to my hotel. Higher than most EP girls who charge 150 to come to your hotel (and no taxi nonsense).
I hadn't said much in the message, not sure why she is quoting me higher rates. Also, as I mentioned in other message, she cancelled on me.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2759619]Bia charges 120/1 hour. But she's not a clockwatcher.[/QUOTE]
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A few years ago, the going rates were 100 to 120 for incall and 150 to 180 for outcalls. So, it's not surprising that a lady asking 150 for incall would ask 200 for outcall. My opinion is that unless you really like a particular incall lady -- enough that you want to see her in a more normal environment --there is zero reason to ask her to do outcall.
EP at 150 is a pretty good deal, if you already have a hotel room. The only real drawback is the girls are very late half the time, so you need to have a loose schedule for EP. Also, half the roster is only available at night, which is a problem if you are trying to score during the day.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2759628]She quoted me 150 if I went to her apartment, and she wanted 200 + Uber to come to my hotel. Higher than most EP girls who charge 150 to come to your hotel (and no taxi nonsense).
I hadn't said much in the message, not sure why she is quoting me higher rates. Also, as I mentioned in other message, she cancelled on me.[/QUOTE]
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A little help please?
Hey, I'm a regular contributor to the FKK / Globe / UK / Czech forums but now starting to look further afield to satisfy my sexual cravings. I would appreciate a little knowledge / info / advise on Lisbon if possible please? Is Lisbon only the built up area on the Northside of the Targus or is the built up area on the south connected by two bridges on route A2/ A12 classed as Lisbon as well? Which side is the best to visit in terms of accessibility to girls? Is the availability of girls solely through agencies / independents or are there brothels as well, anything on the FKKK model? Thanks in anticipation.
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Sure, but I was just highlighting that Bia's quoted rate for an outcall was much higher (extra 50 + uber) than most EP girls. Also from what I've read, 120 for an incall is widely available, so Bia's quoted 150 is comparatively expensive.
I'm sure many people find outcall more comfortable. Plenty of the reviews I've read suggest the incall rooms are not particularly big, and in some cases not tidy or clean. If you are staying in a nice hotel, it's a far better environment to have the girl come back there. I appreciate there may be a bit of inconvenience if the girl arrives late. Anyway, I'm digressing from my point which was simply that Bia was much more expensive than most other ladies for both incall and outcall.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2759770]A few years ago, the going rates were 100 to 120 for incall and 150 to 180 for outcalls. So, it's not surprising that a lady asking 150 for incall would ask 200 for outcall. My opinion is that unless you really like a particular incall lady -- enough that you want to see her in a more normal environment --there is zero reason to ask her to do outcall.
EP at 150 is a pretty good deal, if you already have a hotel room. The only real drawback is the girls are very late half the time, so you need to have a loose schedule for EP. Also, half the roster is only available at night, which is a problem if you are trying to score during the day.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2759628]She quoted me 150 if I went to her apartment, and she wanted 200 + Uber to come to my hotel. Higher than most EP girls who charge 150 to come to your hotel (and no taxi nonsense).
I hadn't said much in the message, not sure why she is quoting me higher rates. Also, as I mentioned in other message, she cancelled on me.[/QUOTE]She always charges me 120/1 hour (that must be her tourist tax...).
Cancelling was not a good attitude for sure.
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Another possibility is that you are "grandfathered" in, as a regular client, and she charges new clients 150.
I'll be dropping a few more reviews soon.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2759873]She always charges me 120/1 hour (that must be her tourist tax...).
Cancelling was not a good attitude for sure.[/QUOTE]
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I know someone else who has contacted her recently and this is what she quoted to him for incalls at her apartment:
Início meu atendimento com uma massagem muito sensual e completa.
30 minutos: 60€.
45 minutos: 80€.
1 hora: 120€.
Gold 1 h: 150€.
When he asked what the difference between €120 and #150 ism she replied "Gold é duche erótico".
He is going out shortly and not sure which service, if any, to book. Does anyone know what the likely difference is between the two rates?
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2759920]Another possibility is that you are "grandfathered" in, as a regular client, and she charges new clients 150.
I'll be dropping a few more reviews soon.[/QUOTE]
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We are in a transition period. My advice is to put little stock into the griping about prices on the local board -- the complainers are some cheap ass mofos. Just the other day, I saw one of them saying anything over 80/ h was robbery. That loser was stuck in freaking 2007!
I totally get the virtue of an outcall at your hotel. I'm just saying I wouldn't pay 200/ h for it, not when EP is there. And if EP hiked their rates to 200, I would stop calling EP. My point is if the lady does incall and you aren't particularly attached to her, it doesn't make much sense to engage her for outcalls at higher rates.
I've paid the outcall premium for incall ladies before. But that was not the first at-bat.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2759801]Sure, but I was just highlighting that Bia's quoted rate for an outcall was much higher (extra 50 + uber) than most EP girls. Also from what I've read, 120 for an incall is widely available, so Bia's quoted 150 is comparatively expensive.
I'm sure many people find outcall more comfortable. Plenty of the reviews I've read suggest the incall rooms are not particularly big, and in some cases not tidy or clean. If you are staying in a nice hotel, it's a far better environment to have the girl come back there. I appreciate there may be a bit of inconvenience if the girl arrives late. Anyway, I'm digressing from my point which was simply that Bia was much more expensive than most other ladies for both incall and outcall.[/QUOTE]
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Aurora Vaz
I paid a visit to Aurora Vaz, who is a 5'7" tall spinner and pole dancer in her mid-to-late 30's. She has a hardbody, and is firm everywhere. Her implants look great, but they are as solid as the rest of her body. Blonde, very pretty, very Portuguese, with a touch of elegance.
Her English is basic. Don't expect deep conversation, but it's fine for practical purposes. She also isn't a clock watcher, which is always a big plus. The rate is 150/ HR.
Her style in bed is solidly GFE. She is a good kisser and delivers some delicious oral, and likes getting a good railing in all fours. In cowgirl, she applies some of that gym rat power.
A final note is that I believe she offers service from her own apartment; it's a tasteful, properly furnished place. Incalls and dingy conditions have been mentioned as a concern before, but Aurora's apartment is as well-appointed as the lady herself. The location is near Entrecampos.
https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1082
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Geovanna Torres
Geovanna is a beautiful young lady in her late 20's. She is Brazilian, about 5'6" tall, with a toned-but-soft body. Her implants are soft too (great work). She has tats and piercings, but they suit her.
She speaks very little English, but is happy to please Her incall apartment is basic, but clean, and in some closed office space in Estoril. Her rate is 150/ h.
She is a great GFE, and everything about this one is soft and lucious. Her kissing, touches, oral and FS all have this luscious, tender quality. While at the same time being a little bit naughty. So, if you want to get out to the beach suburbs of Lisbon for the day, I strongly recommend this one. She's basically what I wanted my Brazilian lovers of the distant past to be.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-cascais/acompanhantes-cascais.php?acompanhante=1390[/URL]
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Isis Massagista
Finally, I went for a massage with Isis.
This petite Brazilian woman of about 30 has a body that was made for nuru massage. Isis has an hourglass figure, with massive, simply amazing natural breasts and an ass to match. She has a beautiful face to match, speaks decent English, and an outgoing disposition.
Her style of Nuru massage is the most generous and energetic I've ever seen. She really throws herself at you, and builds up the sexual tension with short, regular intervals of lingam, never leading to climax. About 3/4's of the way through, she finishes with a titty fuck (and, given how well endowed she is, a glorious titty fuck at that).
Her rate is 130/ h, and don't absolutely insist on FS with these things, it's absolutely worth it.
Her studio is near Campo Pequeno.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa
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Initial Contact
Well, as strongly suggested by Mongerer88, I made initial contact on WhatsApp with 5 girls recommended by the Lisbon vets. I am glad I did. 3 of them will be out of town when I am there. One is located in Av. Fernando Pessoa. I think it's far away in Expo. So I only have one good lead which is Bia. I have to look for backups in case Bia is not available.
Funman13.
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Good Option
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2760348]Finally, I went for a massage with Isis.
This petite Brazilian woman of about 30 has a body that was made for nuru massage. Isis has an hourglass figure, with massive, simply amazing natural breasts and an ass to match. She has a beautiful face to match, speaks decent English, and an outgoing disposition.
Her style of Nuru massage is the most generous and energetic I've ever seen. She really throws herself at you, and builds up the sexual tension with short, regular intervals of lingam, never leading to climax. About 3/4's of the way through, she finishes with a titty fuck (and, given how well endowed she is, a glorious titty fuck at that).
Her rate is 130/ h, and don't absolutely insist on FS with these things, it's absolutely worth it.
Her studio is near Campo Pequeno.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/QUOTE]Ex,
This will be a good option. FS is easy to get but a good massage repeatedly bringing you to almost completion for extended time is rare. It's a skill. Thanks.
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2760371]Ex,
This will be a good option. FS is easy to get but a good massage repeatedly bringing you to almost completion for extended time is rare. It's a skill. Thanks.
Funman13.[/QUOTE]Glad to help, and Isis certainly merits as much business as she wants to have. And yes -- most nuru massagistas want to get you off as quickly as they can. She wants to build it up, which is really how it should always be done.
So, did you contact Ella Secret? She is well liked by the locals and also around Campo Pequeno.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
Melanie Pires also has a good rep with the locals. She used to work in the area you need, but I'm not sure about now. Her ads used to show her face, and you might find old examples them by Googling it.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408[/URL]
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Sandra Moura
Posting after a long time again and hopefully it is helpful for somebody. Please keep in mind that your experience might vary from mine.
After arriving in Lisbon I was having a bit of headache and had plans for the evening already.
Therefore it was a question of time to find someone who was able to meet on short notice and I ended up meeting Sandra Moura from EP in the early evening. Right from entering the hotel room she started kissing and did look like the pictures. Her ability to speak English was decent and we had some fun talking to each other.
We did take a shower together and then I enjoyed some good BJ and rimjob. I would rate her here maybe 6/10 and did enjoy it a bit. Only downside was that her breasts were not that firm anymore. Therefore I would doubt the age on the page. I did enjoy my time with her and had the feeling she wanted to please. In the end we did take a shower and she left slightly early, which I didn't mind, but she didn't stay anymore than necessary.
Overall I would say if your time is limited and you don't have many choices then Sandra is a good, but at least not a first choice for me.
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Teresa Torres
On my way back to the hotel having consumed a bit more alcohol than advisable I tried to find another girl for the night and ended up with Teresa Torres from EP.
When she arrived at the hotel it was rather late and waiting for her made me sleepy as well. Again there was kissing involved directly after entering the room. However Teresa expressed that she would prefer me not to be slightly drunk. Off to the shower we went and then she did give a solid BJ, I won't rate it as I was sleepy and drunk. Her body was looking like in the pictures and compared to Sandra I would say she is younger, however that could be a misjudgement on my side.
Tried a few different positions and had some fun though it was difficult to finish. When asked about anal she was not interested, though she did not give a specific reason. In the end we showered together again and she left a bit early. Which was okay with both of us being sleepy.
Over all I would say the session was the result of too much alcohol and wanting to have another round too late in the evening. However I had some fun with Teresa and she could speak rather well English. Who knows if I would have repeated with her had I met her a couple hours earlier.
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Lisboa
Hi Funman13,
I will go to Lisboa in 2 weeks, so am really curious who you finally met and what your experience was with her/them?
I have Bia and Inês on my to do list.
Cheers,
Bart.
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Hi, guys! I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra massage.
Do you have any information about this therapist?
[URL]http://bodyworkportugal.com/[/URL]
I still have my doubts, because she offers tantra massage with lingam healing, but still writes that this is not erotic service and the price is 250 euro. Anyone with information about this girl? And the most important question. Is this massage and the price worthy?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2753660]Now for massagistas not offering FS.
I think Delirium is the best spa to go for that right now. Reports indicate there are less or none of the upsell tactics these places often use to jip you out of an extra 20-30 euros; not all the ladies there have been reviewed, but those that have been got good marks. And all their ladies are also on photo-verified sites.
https://deliriospa.pt/
Three ladies are working in spas, but reports endorse the one lady and not anyone else at the spa. So, book with them in advance.
Sol at Mandala.
[URL]https://eroticmassagelisboa.com/sol/[/URL]
Jenny at Lotus.
[URL]http://www.lotusmassage.pt/jenny/[/URL]
Evah at Allure.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/750-evah-ucraniana-massagista-sensual-atende-gabinete-luxo-lisboa[/URL]
And as for independents, Isis is on fire on the local board.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the answer as I am really interested in erotic massages. I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra massage.
Do you have any information about this therapist?
[URL]http://bodyworkportugal.com/[/URL]
I still have my doubts, because she offers tantra massage with lingam healing, but still writes that this is not erotic service and the price is 250 euro. Anyone with information about this girl? And the most important question. Is this massage and the price worthy?
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[QUOTE=JohnBobbit;2761350]Thanks for the answer as I am really interested in erotic massages. I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra.[/QUOTE]I don't know anything of that Body Work place, but since I did that summary, I have called on the Isis I referenced. I give her double thumbs up and consider her a cut above the other ladies in her class.
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Name changes on Escort Privada?
Are there sometimes name changes on EP? For example, when you click on a profile of a lady referenced a while back, the link still works but comes up as a lady with a different name (e. G. Sofia Viana below). Is Sofia Viana still active under this different name?
For other older links, it simply returns an error message on EP when you click on it, so you know the lady isn't on there any more (e. G. Madalena Fonseca below).
I ask because it is useful to reference all reviews for a lady currently working and active.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2457553]Bella Lorenzo has one review here on ISG. It is a good but not great review. She is reviewed as being very pretty with large enhanced breasts but a bit restrictive on services. She did not kiss and she went to her hand after starting a BBBJ, so it does not appear that CIM is available. Bella has no reviews on the local board.
I think you would likely be better off with your other two choices, Maria Gomes or Eva Luz.
Maria Gomes has three reviews on the local board from experienced reviewers. She got a 7, an 8, and a 10 out of ten from these reviewers, and they confirm her great looks and body, as well as her service offerings that include GFE, CIM and anal. She is reviewed as being a quiet girl, explaining the 7 and 8 scores. The guy who gave her an 8 out of 10 has reviewed a lot of ladies, giving Sofia Viana a 7 out of 10, Catarina Moura an 8 out of 10, and Alexandra Mendes a 5 out of 10. He has reviewed a lot of non-Escort Privada ladies, giving them relatively low scores of 6, 6, 5, 4, 6 out of 10. So his 8 out of 10 review of Maria Gomes is an excellent review comparatively.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2761717]Are there sometimes name changes on EP? For example, when you click on a profile of a lady referenced a while back, the link still works but comes up as a lady with a different name (e. G. Sofia Viana below). Is Sofia Viana still active under this different name?
For other older links, it simply returns an error message on EP when you click on it, so you know the lady isn't on there any more (e. G. Madalena Fonseca below).
I ask because it is useful to reference all reviews for a lady currently working and active.[/QUOTE]Sometimes there are name changes, but in this situation it is not. The local board reviews indicated that Sofia said she was leaving and the phone number was being recycled.
I think Ana Lucia got assigned the phone number of Sofia Viana and EP just kept the same link.
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Name changes, Multiple names
Yes, escorts in general will change names or use more than one working name. Sometimes this is to mislead customers, but sometimes they are just tired of the old name, want to track where the customer came from or are rebranding themselves.
For example, I just saw Aurora Vaz. She started as an EP girl, but went full-time, independent and incall. She changed her name when she did so. Adriana Santos used to be Bianca Pereira, and nobody has really put shade on her. Jennifer PT is also Eva Sanchez, and part of the reason why is she knows how you found her from the name you use.
But some really are just trying to ditch their bad reputation. On EP, Barbara Gouveia, Mafalda Melo, Victoria Saravia and Rita Campos are all girls who have worked for EP before under a different name (in Melo's case, this is her third name change), and had a mixed, declining or outright terrible reputation. So, they changed their name to leave the bad reviews behind.
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EP and Apartodox same phone numbers
Thank you, that clears it up. What is still slightly intriguing is that ladies have the same contact telephone number on both EP and Apartodox. I thought the EP number would be specific to EP.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2761832]Sometimes there are name changes, but in this situation it is not. The local board reviews indicated that Sofia said she was leaving and the phone number was being recycled.
I think Ana Lucia got assigned the phone number of Sofia Viana and EP just kept the same link.[/QUOTE]
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Indeed, it was really the ditching of the bad reputation that I was worried about.
But it's also useful just to have as much information as possible about a lady, so it's great to link all reviews under the different names.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2761933]Yes, escorts in general will change names or use more than one working name. Sometimes this is to mislead customers, but sometimes they are just tired of the old name, want to track where the customer came from or are rebranding themselves.
But some really are just trying to ditch their bad reputation. On EP, Barbara Gouveia, Mafalda Melo, Victoria Saravia and Rita Campos are all girls who have worked for EP before under a different name (in Melo's case, this is her third name change), and had a mixed, declining or outright terrible reputation. So, they changed their name to leave the bad reviews behind.[/QUOTE]
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Three weeks in Lisbon
I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.
I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.
I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150€ is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.
My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.
Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?
Sorry for all the questions.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2761943]Thank you, that clears it up. What is still slightly intriguing is that ladies have the same contact telephone number on both EP and Apartodox. I thought the EP number would be specific to EP.[/QUOTE]A different number for each lady is commonly seen in Portugal, and in some situations in Spain.
Prostitution is legal, but pimping and pandering is not.
Each Escort Privada lady is an independent escort who uses Escort Privada to help her with advertising, assist with bookings and communication, and in some situations help with transportation. All of these independent escorts appear to have agreed amongst themselves to charge the same hourly rate, but some have surcharges for different activities that escort offers.
A stronger argument exists that a lady is an independent escort who contracts out these services if she has her own phone number.
The argument may never be needed, and the concept is sometimes simply abandoned. Vecinitas in Barcelona used to have a separate number for each lady, but recently stopped doing that and went with one central number.
It is not really clear than an agency with one or two central phone numbers is doing pimping or pandering. An agency escort is still contracting out services. The customer pays that escort the full fee, and she gives a certain portion to the agency for its services to her, regardless of the phone number situation.
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[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2761987]I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.
I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.
I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150 is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.
My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.
Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?
Sorry for all the questions.[/QUOTE]If you think EP is too expensive, then they probably are, and you will come back and complain like you did about the options everyone took the time and effort to give you in the Barcelona thread. Iberia is different than Budapest.
Lisbon does not have a central meeting place for inexpensive incall escorts. Its clubs are more expensive than its incall and outcall escorts.
Here is a list of incall escorts with excellent reviews who will likely offer you 30 and 45 minute options that are less expensive than outcall from Escort Privada. You will send them messages using WhatsApp in Portuguese. You can use Google Translate to go to and from your native tongue to Portuguese. Uber is active in Lisbon and you can use it to get to each lady's incall. That is how it works in Portugal for incall escorts. A few will be able to read and write English, but start by sending your message in both translated Portuguese and English to find out.
Let's start with one who isn't on many lists because she just returned to Lisbon from working throughout Europe. She comes from a massage background so that might interest you. She does not get that many compliments on her face, but her BBBJTCIM is raved about. Her name is Lara.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/360966-lara-oral-babado-c-finalizacao[/URL]#group=galeria_360966&photo=360966.
This list of independents is not in any particular order. Some of the ladies on prior lists are omitted merely because they do not have a current ad at the moment. Some may not be offering 30 or 45 minute sessions. You just have to ask them. And I no doubt forgot some that others can add. I just happened to pull Ella Secret's ad from the BDSM section, but she does GFE as well.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Patricia-Navarro-3827[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Catia-Bom-6582[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Giulia-Viana-4962[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Kelly-Fontini-1789[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1082[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-cascais/acompanhantes-cascais.php?acompanhante=1390[/URL]
That is 15 recommended ladies for the 21 days of your trip. Others can add six more if you want to fuck a different independent for 30-45 minute sessions every day of your trip. If a person wanted to do that, Lisbon is one of the most economical places in Europe to do so. It would make a touching Uber commercial, actually.
You can check and see if this one starts running ads during your trip.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4294[/URL]
And it seems only right to list this expensive independent escort who likely only offers one hour or more sessions in case she is of interest to others.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095[/URL]
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For recommendations on specific ladies, I suggest either reviewing this forum back to the summer, asking about who you are interested in by name or both. I myself covered four ladies just recently, others have made solid contributions, and some of us are aware of the wider chatter generally. You mentioned being on a budget -- you could ask about the known options for 100 and 120 an hour if that mattered more to you than getting your type.
EP is outcall only. The girls go to hotels, Air BnBs and private homes, and they only charge for transportation if the location is outside Lisbon proper.
The thing about EP and the photo-verified sites is the girl you get us the one advertising. There is no bait and switch. The only unreliability is that sometimes the photos are a few years old. On EP, for example, Alexandra Mendes, Sara Valente and Carolina the'Almeida haven't done a new photoshoot since before the pandemic. But from what I've heard, the pics are still very accurate for Valente and Mendes.
If a girl isn't showing her face, it's because she wants to retain discretion about her identity and profession. Most massagistas don't care, because they aren't prostitutes; many Brazilians don't care because they aren't staying in Portugal. But a lot of others care very much about their work following them home. So, I doubt they will send you a head shot if you ask for one. They made a choice and are likely to stick with it.
Cascais and Estoril are beach suburbs of Lisbon, so they are often lumped in with Lisbon as a whole because guys will go out to or find themselves in the burbs. About half of those ladies in Cascais are a short walk from a Linha de Cascais rail station.
You should also look at docemassgem, somassagens and Momentosdeprazer
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2761987]I'm in Lisbon for the next three weeks. I'm not
exactly flush with cash at the moment so I'm hoping I manage to spend wisely.
I love a good erotic massage and I've already seen a few girls I like the look of in that department.
I'm having more difficulty with finding girls I want to have full service with. There's a girl on EP that I quite like the look of. But am I correct in thinking the EP girls are outcall only? If so, do they only go to hotels. Or will they also come to an apartment? Do their advertised rates include their travel, or is that going to cost me extra? 150 is already more than I'd usually pay (I only ever usually do incall) so I can't really justify paying more than that when I'm kinda broke.
My main concern with outcall is that most of the EP girls don't even show their faces in the profile. I'd hate to book someone and then be faced with a girl I didn't find particularly attractive. Do any of the girls send pictures of their face via WhatsApp? The only time I have previously done outcall (in Budapest,) a completely different girl showed up. So that's always a concern as well.
Are there any sites for incall girls? I'm aware of apartadox and portalprivado. A few of the girls on the Lisbon page of portalprivado, come up as being from Cascais when you click on their profile. How does that work?
Sorry for all the questions.[/QUOTE]
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Ella Secret
ExEx,
Sorry for the blackout. My hotel in Madrid blocked ISG. Ella Secret is out of town, I think she said Italy.
Made contact with Bia Santos for this afternoon. Will report.
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=Abox79;2759787]Hey, I'm a regular contributor to the FKK / Globe / UK / Czech forums but now starting to look further afield to satisfy my sexual cravings. I would appreciate a little knowledge / info / advise on Lisbon if possible please? Is Lisbon only the built up area on the Northside of the Targus or is the built up area on the south connected by two bridges on route A2/ A12 classed as Lisbon as well? Which side is the best to visit in terms of accessibility to girls? Is the availability of girls solely through agencies / independents or are there brothels as well, anything on the FKKK model? Thanks in anticipation.[/QUOTE]Over a week and NOT ONE reply to these questions answered politely? I know I could RTFF but I doubt it is covered. But it's ok, I will find out for myself. Seems like the Lisbon forum is very 'clicky'.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2762057]If you think EP is too expensive, then they probably are, and you will come back and complain like you did about the options everyone took the time and effort to give you in the Barcelona thread. Iberia is different than Budapest.
Lisbon does not have a central meeting place for inexpensive incall escorts. Its clubs are more expensive than its incall and outcall escorts.
Here is a list of incall escorts with excellent reviews who will likely offer you 30 and 45 minute options that are less expensive than outcall from Escort Privada. You will send them messages using WhatsApp in Portuguese. You can use Google Translate to go to and from your native tongue to Portuguese. Uber is active in Lisbon and you can use it to get to each lady's incall. That is how it works in Portugal for incall escorts. A few will be able to read and write English, but start by sending your message in both translated Portuguese and English to find out.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the reply but I think the Barcelona comment was a little uncalled for. From what I can recall, nobody on there made any recommendations that were particularly intended for me and my complaints were about the Barca private houses, never about anyone on the forum or the advice they gave.
It's not that EP is "too expensive," it's just more expensive than I'd normally pay. I probably have the spare cash for two or three massages and two or three full services (assuming I'm paying EP rates.) Given those limitations, I want to be as sure as I can be that they're all good experiences.
Thanks for the list. I'll look through it this evening.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2762091]For recommendations on specific ladies, I suggest either reviewing this forum back to the summer, asking about who you are interested in by name or both. I myself covered four ladies just recently, others have made solid contributions, and some of us are aware of the wider chatter generally. You mentioned being on a budget -- you could ask about the known options for 100 and 120 an hour if that mattered more to you than getting your type.
EP is outcall only. The girls go to hotels, Air BnBs and private homes, and they only charge for transportation if the location is outside Lisbon proper.
The thing about EP and the photo-verified sites is the girl you get us the one advertising. There is no bait and switch. The only unreliability is that sometimes the photos are a few years old. On EP, for example, Alexandra Mendes, Sara Valente and Carolina the'Almeida haven't done a new photoshoot since before the pandemic. But from what I've heard, the pics are still very accurate for Valente and Mendes.
If a girl isn't showing her face, it's because she wants to retain discretion about her identity and profession. Most massagistas don't care, because they aren't prostitutes; many Brazilians don't care because they aren't staying in Portugal. But a lot of others care very much about their work following them home. So, I doubt they will send you a head shot if you ask for one. They made a choice and are likely to stick with it.
Cascais and Estoril are beach suburbs of Lisbon, so they are often lumped in with Lisbon as a whole because guys will go out to or find themselves in the burbs. About half of those ladies in Cascais are a short walk from a Linha de Cascais rail station.
You should also look at docemassgem, somassagens and Momentosdeprazer[/QUOTE]I'm not on a budget to the extent that I'd forgo getting my type in order to save money. As I said above, it's more a case of being limited to the number of encounters I can stretch to during my three weeks.
I can fully understand why girls would not want to show their faces. It just makes it difficult to choose someone when you only have pictures of their bodies.
Are the girls usually honest about their nationality? I'd much prefer to have local Portuguese girls than Brazilians. I've nothing against Brazilians but I'd rather have girls who are local to the country I am in and it's much harder to tell when you can't see their faces. I visited Brazil just before the pandemic and had my fair share of Brazilian ladies already.
Also, many of the girls on EP appear to offer rimming for an additional 30. Can anyone recommend a girl who is actually good at it? Most of my paid-for rimming experiences have lacked enthusiasm.
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[QUOTE=MrMiguel;2752246]Hi FalconStar,
You can try White Elephant (Elefante Branco), lots of working girls of different varieties hang out there, and you can chat with them, negotiate, and take to your hotel. Please note, that entrance ticket there is 50 EUR (and you get two drinks), when you take the girl to hotel you usually have to pay for her drink too. I just give 25 EUR to the barmen (without the drink), and he seemed to be OK with it.[/QUOTE]Abox79,
There are no brothels. Strictly speaking, they are illegal. They were once tolerated, but the government formally shut down Michelle's, and the others informally disappeared over the succeeding years.
Many of the independents share a trick pad, and they sometimes hang out at the trick pad between sessions. Some have relationships with taxi drivers. So sometimes you will read a report, especially in the Porto section, of a taxi driver taking a customer to some "brothel." That is usually a trick pad, and he calls ahead to make sure there are enough ladies (like two or three) hanging out there to do a line-up. That is likely the only time they do a line-up.
Usually they don't charge more in this situation, leaving one to wonder how the cab driver is compensated. If you get to talking to a male Vegas taxi driver about sex, he will often mention taking you to a full-service massage parlor that he likes. I suspect he has a little punch card. Bring 5 customers and he gets a free session or something like that.
There is nothing like German FKKs. Not only would that be illegal under the pimping and pandering rules (just like formal brothels are), it simply isn't part of the culture. There are not Romanians in Lisbon who arrived by car with the intention of living at a big facility where they have sex with customers.
The closest thing that Lisbon has is Elephant Branco, a supper club where you mingle with women, eat, drink, and bring one back to your hotel. That process is significantly more expensive than booking an escort. And a not insignificant number of the Elephant Branco reports indicate that the customer received a CBJ as part of the sexual experience after paying a lot to bring her back to the hotel.
We are the least cliquish group on ISG. I just took the time to list like 18 recommended independents. I am not sure I listed Ella Rocha since she doesn't have a current ad, but will likely return soon.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4428[/URL]
There are 22 Escort Privada ladies with an overall Recommended stamp, including an Upper Echelon of four or five who most everyone has a great time with. I can list them if you want.
That makes over 40 ladies to communicate with and choose from. Most of that 40 or so ladies are in their 30's in ages. But there is a solid representation of ladies in their 20's. All of the recommended ladies do BBBJ to the best of my knowledge. Plenty of those 40 or so ladies do anal sex. BDSM is not a huge part of the scene, but within those 40 or so providers, you will find submissive, switches and doms. A representation of mostly local Portuguese, but lots of Brazilians and some African heritage like Joana Montenegro of EP, who gets nothing but excellent reviews and would be a solid choice. Boobs and butts of all sizes on the list.
This is how the world works now outside of Germany and Brazil. You make choices based on limited pictures and interaction, so reviews are important. A lot of people don't like it, but none of us know what to say other than go to Germany or Brazil, then. Women in the Western World generally don't go to a central facility, wait for customers, and fuck them there.
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Follow-up
Yes, whenever nationality is specified, that is very reliable. I've never even heard of, let alone encountered, an example of someone fibbing on that.
The going rate on full service incall right now is 120 to 150/ h, with a nuru massage w / HJ running 20 euros behind that. Half hour rates are 70 or 80, but some ladies don't do half hours and EP girls never do. EP is 150/ h, and I wouldn't bother asking for outcall with a lady who does incall. Some independent ladies also do outcall only, and they are asking 150+. There are a small and shrinking number of providers charging 100 behind that.
Given that the roster is a three digit number, if you want specific recommendations you should either flip through the thread or narrow it down by area or giving examples of who you are looking at.
Sorry, can't help you with rimming. The ladies I know who were good at that retired or left Lisbon.
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[QUOTE=Abox79;2762219]Over a week and NOT ONE reply to these questions answered politely? I know I could RTFF but I doubt it is covered. But it's ok, I will find out for myself. Seems like the Lisbon forum is very 'clicky'.[/QUOTE]I'm not familiar with the model to which you refer.
Caparica and the area immediately south of the river is considered the larger Lisbon Metro area, in much the same way as Sintra and Cascais are.
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Marcela Moniz received very favorable comments regarding her rimming skills in a review by a trusted United Kingdom reviewer. She wears a really cute blue butt plug in her ad, which would seem to indicate that she is not reluctant about the anus. She also enthusiastically accepted a hand spanking, according to the review. If you don't mind the alternative haircut, she seems like a good choice.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2762238]Thank you for the reply but I think the Barcelona comment was a little uncalled for. From what I can recall, nobody on there made any recommendations that were particularly intended for me and my complaints were about the Barca private houses, never about anyone on the forum or the advice they gave.
It's not that EP is "too expensive," it's just more expensive than I'd normally pay. I probably have the spare cash for two or three massages and two or three full services (assuming I'm paying EP rates.) Given those limitations, I want to be as sure as I can be that they're all good experiences.
Thanks for the list. I'll look through it this evening.
I'm not on a budget to the extent that I'd forgo getting my type in order to save money. As I said above, it's more a case of being limited to the number of encounters I can stretch to during my three weeks.
I can fully understand why girls would not want to show their faces. It just makes it difficult to choose someone when you only have pictures of their bodies..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2762351]I'm not familiar with the model to which you refer.
Caparica and the area immediately south of the river is considered the larger Lisbon Metro area, in much the same way as Sintra and Cascais are.[/QUOTE]Careful, dude. That is like asking a fitness enthusiast about CrossFit. If the person is into CrossFit, they will talk about it forever.
In the Beginning, Germany had legal nudist facilities. They were called FKKs. They were big facilities.
When Germany legalized, and (then) very lightly regulated prostitution, the sex work industry decided to essentially take over the nudist facilities and have sex offered in them.
The women walk around naked. A few are not fully naked. The guys mercifully are not fully naked but wear a towel or robe.
The sex workers are generally Romanian or Eastern European. They usually travel to the FKKs and work shifts lasting a few weeks. They generally live at the facility, with sleeping quarters in buildings adjacent to where customers meet them and have sex with them in rooms at the FKKs.
An admission charge is levied upon the customer, which includes the use of the facilities that have nice eating, relaxation, gym, pool, and sauna areas. Of course, a charge is made for each sex act. The customer gets to observe the goods and interact with the lady prior to sex. Of course that is valuable to the customer. Hell, I went to a Vegas Gentlemen's Club recently with a fantastic ISG member who really knew the place. Met a wonderful girl named Austin who I got a dance from. And a complete ***** who threw the dollar I tipped her back at me, after I said I didn't want a dance and she demanded a tip for just coming over unsolicited. I had to go find Austin to get another dance to get the bad experience out of my mind. The FKKs keep a customer from getting stuck with a *****. That is the importance of reviews in Portugal. You have graciously let us know which EP ladies to avoid.
The FKKs extraordinarily efficient. A customer can fuck many different girls, and each girl can be compensated for many sex acts each day. Sam Walton of WalMart would not have needed much oral sex to get an erection at an FKK. Just observing the size of the place, the wide offerings, and the efficiencies would have sufficed.
The concept would not be legal in Portugal, and it would also be of no interest to the local Portuguese women. The Brazilians might be a different story, since the termas and clinicas of Brazil operate on a somewhat similar model. I asked one EP provider who was considering an internship in Germany if she would work at an FKK, and she rolled her eyes and said that wouldn't exactly be her preferred work environment.
I am glad the FKK enthusiasts like it. However, if you study the ammunition the abolitionists and the Nordic Model advocates use in their arguments, the German FKKs are front and center. During Canada's prostitution decriminalization legislative debates, the German FKKs were used in the argument against decriminalization. So I have mixed feelings about them in that respect. Portugal manages to have decriminalized commercial sex without much of anyone even knowing about it. A strong argument can be made that Portugal's system is more sustainable.
After France went full (and enforced) Nordic Model, people started really noticing the flow of traffic (which always existed) to a club on the France / Spain border, and the place started being referred to as the brothel of France. Probably not coincidentally, we now have to deal with potential law changes in Spain.
I think this activity is more sustainable if it is out of the public eye. That is impossible with FKKs and Clubs.
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Marcela Moniz
Please keep in mind your experience might vary from mine. After the first day I already set up a meeting with Marcela for the next day and we did actually manage to meet. She is a young and very fit girl with a great body. Maybe the face and short hair is not everybody's type, but I would say the service makes up for it.
Even though she only speaks a few words English she tried to engage with me and with the help of her phone and some gestures we did quite fine. After a quick shower we took together she started of with a great BJ which I would rate 9/10. Followed by some rimming, which she seemed to enjoy a lot. She enjoyed some slapping of her ass and encouraged it. I would say she does enjoy anything related to her ass, after some missionary and doggy style I went for anal and she seemed to prefer that one.
After the first round we took a quick shower again and went for a second round which she finished with a very long BJ. She did not look at the time and tried her best to provide an amazing service, I did enjoy her skills quite a bit. In the end she also mentioned that she is bi curious, in case someone wants to have two girls I would say she is a good choice.
Based on the performance we met another time on the second day and she did provide another great experience again. Both times she was really eager to please.
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Mafalda Melo
Initially I had plans to meet another girl, however unfortunately those plans did not work out and my backup girl did message me too late. Mafalda was the only girl during my visit and in general my experience who managed to show up a little earlier than we arranged.
Her body looks good and she was pleasing to my eye, however from the beginning it seemed that she is tired early in the evening. Without a shower it was quite fast down to business and she started with a decent BJ, which after the initial few minutes it did improve quite a bit. Overall I would rate the BJ 6/10. During the encounter we tried serveral positions and I managed to finish after some time in doggy.
After it she did refuse to shower together and took less than 30 seconds to wash herself. I am not entirely sure but I doubt she even used some soap. Moreover she was not interested in a second round but dressed again quite quickly. Very business like but the actual encounter was decent.
If I could turn time back and change to my backup plan, I would change though.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2762360]Marcela Moniz received very favorable comments regarding her rimming skills in a review by a trusted United Kingdom reviewer. She wears a really cute blue butt plug in her ad, which would seem to indicate that she is not reluctant about the anus. She also enthusiastically accepted a hand spanking, according to the review. If you don't mind the alternative haircut, she seems like a good choice.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL][/QUOTE]Can highly recommend her, she was my highlight during my visit.
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18 and into ass play. That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. The short hair looks kinda cute from what I can see of it. Out of interest, why would you think her face may not be everyone's type? Do you see her for an hour each time or longer?
I'll probably contact her next week.
[QUOTE=Kagino0;2762400]Please keep in mind your experience might vary from mine. After the first day I already set up a meeting with Marcela for the next day and we did actually manage to meet. She is a young and very fit girl with a great body. Maybe the face and short hair is not everybody's type, but I would say the service makes up for it.
Even though she only speaks a few words English she tried to engage with me and with the help of her phone and some gestures we did quite fine. After a quick shower we took together she started of with a great BJ which I would rate 9/10. Followed by some rimming, which she seemed to enjoy a lot. She enjoyed some slapping of her ass and encouraged it. I would say she does enjoy anything related to her ass, after some missionary and doggy style I went for anal and she seemed to prefer that one.
After the first round we took a quick shower again and went for a second round which she finished with a very long BJ. She did not look at the time and tried her best to provide an amazing service, I did enjoy her skills quite a bit. In the end she also mentioned that she is bi curious, in case someone wants to have two girls I would say she is a good choice.
Based on the performance we met another time on the second day and she did provide another great experience again. Both times she was really eager to please.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2762350]Yes, whenever nationality is specified, that is very reliable. I've never even heard of, let alone encountered, an example of someone fibbing on that. (...)[/QUOTE]Marcela Moniz says she's Portuguese on the EP site and Brazilian on ApartadoX. So which one is it? Can anyone confirm is she's Portuguese or Brazilian?
[QUOTE=JohnBobbit;2761338]Hi, guys! I will visit Lisbon in two weeks time and I am interested in trying something different. Like tantra massage.
Do you have any information about this therapist?
[URL]http://bodyworkportugal.com/[/URL]
I still have my doubts, because she offers tantra massage with lingam healing, but still writes that this is not erotic service and the price is 250 euro. Anyone with information about this girl? And the most important question. Is this massage and the price worthy?[/QUOTE]Like you, I'm also a fan of tantric massages (of which Lisbon is a bit devoid of, at least Tantra in its true nature. Not the HJ / Nuru spas that advertise as tantric places).
Regarding your question, sorry but I never heard about that specific place / practitioner. If you do, however, end up having a session with her please let me / us know how it went because I'm also very curious but the 250 price mark does make it difficult.
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[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2762415]18 and into ass play. That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. The short hair looks kinda cute from what I can see of it. Out of interest, why would you think her face may not be everyone's type? Do you see her for an hour each time or longer?
I'll probably contact her next week.[/QUOTE]Marcella Moniz would appear to be an excellent choice. If you are interested in the relatively younger EP ladies with a history of solid reviews, here is a short list. They don't all do anal, and they aren't all on the youngest side, but I think it would be a good list to have handy, especially if there are last minute cancellations and you are needing to pick a substitute.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/maria-conceicao/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/catarina-rodriguez/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Pyrrhus;2762415]18 and into ass play. That's pretty much exactly what I'm looking for. The short hair looks kinda cute from what I can see of it. Out of interest, why would you think her face may not be everyone's type? Do you see her for an hour each time or longer?
I'll probably contact her next week.[/QUOTE]Mostly her very short hair, which for me was quite nice for me too. I assume you will be fine. For me it was two one hour long sessions, but I also had quite a few plans already. Probably a good idea to start with an hour and see from there.
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Rebeca Diniz
Here is another independent to add to the long list.
Her name is Rebeca Diniz and she got three 10 out of ten reviews from very experienced reviewers as her first reviews on the local board. She is reviewed as being mid-20's. Her ad says she speaks English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rebeca-Diniz-6364[/URL]
Here is the translated version of one of the more informative reviews of her on the local board.
"This TD brings together everything I like in a woman, personality, provocative, friendly and concerned about our well-being.
Teardrop chest with wonderful nipples, perfect round ass, beautiful legs and flat belly.
In the messages she was always friendly and available to respond to everything, really everything.
The apartment is recent and with good appearance, it was clean and smelling good.
Regarding the oral, without words, deep throat, rhythm, eyes in the eyes, attention to the twins and little hand, allows them to end in the mouth.
Vaginal sweet, calm and with the air of someone who enjoys it as much as we do, she squeezes her beautiful vagina which gives us a cozy feeling, smooth without hair with a smooth bronze that makes me very horny.
Anal is crushing, in all positions, without complaints and with encouragement, he rides with his back to us with his hands behind his back.
Final grade 10, but why? First because I'm very demanding and this girl showed me what it's like to be well received, she's not just worried about the money, in fact she never asked me for an advance.
In the arts, she leaves her mark on us because she knows how to do it and because she has a well-groomed body.
At the end we talked a little, she is a woman with goals who takes care of and appreciates the client.
To be repeated whenever possible, it is worth the visit.
Cherish and care because as it goes, it's rare for girls like that, I know well what I'm talking about because my last explorations were less good and some even negative, for my all you know that with me white is white and black is black, I'm direct.
Did I already say I liked it?
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2762057]If you think EP is too expensive, then they probably are, and you will come back and complain like you did about the options everyone took the time and effort to give you in the Barcelona thread. Iberia is different than Budapest.
Lisbon does not have a central meeting place for inexpensive incall escorts. Its clubs are more expensive than its incall and outcall escorts.
Here is a list of incall escorts with excellent reviews who will likely offer you 30 and 45 minute options that are less expensive than outcall from Escort Privada. You will send them messages using WhatsApp in Portuguese. You can use Google Translate to go to and from your native tongue to Portuguese. Uber is active in Lisbon and you can use it to get to each lady's incall. That is how it works in Portugal for incall escorts. A few will be able to read and write English, but start by sending your message in both translated Portuguese and English to find out.
Let's start with one who isn't on many lists because she just returned to Lisbon from working throughout Europe. She comes from a massage background so that might interest you. She does not get that many compliments on her face, but her BBBJTCIM is raved about. Her name is Lara.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/360966-lara-oral-babado-c-finalizacao[/URL]#group=galeria_360966&photo=360966.
This list of independents is not in any particular order. Some of the ladies on prior lists are omitted merely because they do not have a current ad at the moment. Some may not be offering 30 or 45 minute sessions. You just have to ask them. And I no doubt forgot some that others can add. I just happened to pull Ella Secret's ad from the BDSM section, but she does GFE as well.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Patricia-Navarro-3827[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Bdsm-Ella-Secret-6513[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Mel-Pires-5408[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Catia-Bom-6582[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Giulia-Viana-4962[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Kelly-Fontini-1789[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1082[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-cascais/acompanhantes-cascais.php?acompanhante=1390[/URL]
That is 15 recommended ladies for the 21 days of your trip. Others can add six more if you want to fuck a different independent for 30-45 minute sessions every day of your trip. If a person wanted to do that, Lisbon is one of the most economical places in Europe to do so. It would make a touching Uber commercial, actually.
You can check and see if this one starts running ads during your trip.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/inact.php?id=4294[/URL]
And it seems only right to list this expensive independent escort who likely only offers one hour or more sessions in case she is of interest to others.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Carolina-Belmont-6095[/URL][/QUOTE]
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She seems like someone who is providing good service at the moment. I thought this lady also had some not very positive comments before these recent reviews, but I can't find them now. I'm sure I was thinking of booking her a few weeks ago but was put off by the negative comments. I must be mistaken.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2763063]Here is another independent to add to the long list.
Her name is Rebeca Diniz and she got three 10 out of ten reviews from very experienced reviewers as her first reviews on the local board. She is reviewed as being mid-20's. Her ad says she speaks English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rebeca-Diniz-6364[/URL]
Here is the translated version of one of the more informative reviews of her on the local board.
"This TD brings together everything I like in a woman, personality, provocative, friendly and concerned about our well-being.
Teardrop chest with wonderful nipples, perfect round ass, beautiful legs and flat belly.
In the messages she was always friendly and available to respond to everything, really everything.
The apartment is recent and with good appearance, it was clean and smelling good.
Regarding the oral, without words, deep throat, rhythm, eyes in the eyes, attention to the twins and little hand, allows them to end in the mouth.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Kagino0;2762938]Mostly her very short hair, which for me was quite nice for me too. I assume you will be fine. For me it was two one hour long sessions, but I also had quite a few plans already. Probably a good idea to start with an hour and see from there.[/QUOTE]Can you confirm if she's portuguese or brazilian?
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Bia Santos
Hi,
I made an appointment with Bia for 3 PM but was able to meet up at 2:45. First of all, let me warn you (this seems to be missing in all reports of Bia) that she is darker then her pictures on the web. She's around mid-30. Her face is totally Mulatta so if you don't like those features, then skip her. For me it was a plus. These types of girls are a turn-on. Her body was really beautiful, not athletically toned but not fat at all, what I call a real woman body. Her breasts are natural and soft. I love it that she walks around the apartment totally naked.
The veterans on this thread were correct. She was great. A constant smile, great bfk, great rim, great BBBJ, everything was just great. I did not do A+, not my thing. WIR? I don't know. There are so many ladies in Lisbon to try. Anyway, I totally recommend Bia. You can't go wrong with her.
Funman13.
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Isis
I tried to make an appointment with her on the days I knew I was free (I was traveling with family) but she was booked. We finally agreed on Wednesday at 3 PM. Unfortunately on Wednesday I was not able to get away. Her place was at least 30 minutes away so I would have to "disappear" for more than 2 hours which was impossible. It was also raining on that day. I WhatsApp her to apologize for the cancelation. Isis was very courteous and understanding. Oh, how I wish I could experience her massage. I must return to Lisbon!
I left Lisbon on Thursday. I am back in the Mongering Great Desert called the USA.
Funman13.
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Bia Santos
Oh, I forgot to mention. Since someone had mentioned a possible foreigner upsell, when I first WhatsApp Bia, I mentioned that "a good friend of mine told me to meet you when I get to Lisbon. He said you are very good to him". That helps to cut the formalities. Then after we agreed on the appointment, I asked her if the price is 120 Euros which my friend told me. She said "yes". I gave her 130 Euros which she seemed thankful.
At the end of the session, she asked me (we use Google Translate) who was my friend. I blurted out "Rick", the first thing that came to my mind. She said, "Oh yes, Rick, very good man".
He he, so one of you Lisbon veterans is named Rick!
Funman13.
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From the comments I have seen, it is quite a common theme for black ladies to be darker in person than they appear on the photos and videos. I think they feel being lighter helps to attract more customers, but just like you I also find darker ladies attractive. You can actually see some of the "mulatta" aspect in the video of her.
[QUOTE=FunMan13;2763450]Hi,
I made an appointment with Bia. First of all, let me warn you (this seems to be missing in all reports of Bia) that she is darker then her pictures on the web. She's around mid-30. Her face is totally Mulatta so if you don't like those features, then skip her. For me it was a plus. These types of girls are a turn-on.
Funman13.[/QUOTE]Thank you for confirming she does appear to try a bit of a foreigner upsell. It was good of you to mention the recommendation by your friend Rick!
[QUOTE=FunMan13;2763458]Oh, I forgot to mention. Since someone had mentioned a possible foreigner upsell, when I first WhatsApp Bia, I mentioned that "a good friend of mine told me to meet you when I get to Lisbon. He said you are very good to him". That helps to cut the formalities. Then after we agreed on the appointment, I asked her if the price is 120 Euros which my friend told me. She said "yes". I gave her 130 Euros which she seemed thankful.
At the end of the session, she asked me (we use Google Translate) who was my friend. I blurted out "Rick", the first thing that came to my mind. She said, "Oh yes, Rick, very good man".
Funman13.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2763458]
He he, so one of you Lisbon veterans is named Rick![/QUOTE]I'm Blaine, Rick Blaine:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEWaqUVac3M[/URL]
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Rick
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2763575]I'm Blaine, Rick Blaine:
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEWaqUVac3M[/URL][/QUOTE]OH, so you are the Rick she mentioned. She said you are packed like a horse and ride like one!
Funman13.
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[QUOTE=FunMan13;2763625]She said you are packed like a horse and ride like one![/QUOTE]So sweet of her...
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Need Advice
Hello Guys,
Hope all of you are having an amazing day! First of all, truly appreciate the amazing contributions of the members of the community! Such an amazing community! I will be traveling to Lisbon next week, and that would be my first time in Lisbon as well! I got a pretty much idea of the best escorts from the effortful reviews from the members. It would be great if anyone of you can provide any review on the below -.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Meirelles-Fernandes-6624[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Nathaly-5039[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Isabella-Fontoura-4020[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Yu-Ferracini-6467[/URL]
And, if you may advise -any well-reviewed busty escorts. Thanks in advance.
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Nathaly has a mixed bag on the local board. A few reviews in the 8's, a few 5 and 6 scores, and one really angry guy who gave her a zero.
On the other hand, Yu is very well liked by the locals.
I haven't seen anything about the other two.
[QUOTE=Avi1132;2763887]Hello Guys,
Hope all of you are having an amazing day! First of all, truly appreciate the amazing contributions of the members of the community! Such an amazing community! I will be traveling to Lisbon next week, and that would be my first time in Lisbon as well! I got a pretty much idea of the best escorts from the effortful reviews from the members. It would be great if anyone of you can provide any review on the below -.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Meirelles-Fernandes-6624[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Nathaly-5039[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Isabella-Fontoura-4020[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Yu-Ferracini-6467[/URL]
And, if you may advise -any well-reviewed busty escorts. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Avi1132;2763887]Hello Guys,
Hope all of you are having an amazing day! First of all, truly appreciate the amazing contributions of the members of the community! Such an amazing community! I will be traveling to Lisbon next week, and that would be my first time in Lisbon as well! I got a pretty much idea of the best escorts from the effortful reviews from the members. It would be great if anyone of you can provide any review on the below -.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Meirelles-Fernandes-6624[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Nathaly-5039[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Isabella-Fontoura-4020[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Yu-Ferracini-6467[/URL]
And, if you may advise -any well-reviewed busty escorts. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I see nothing on the local board for Meirelles Fernandes.
Nathaly's last two reviews have not been good.
Here is the translation of those last two reviews. They were a 5 and a 6 out of 10 from guys who usually give high scores. They put her at 35 to 40 years old.
"As promised, I went there to test it and I regret it.
Positive to highlight: apartment.
Negative: chest, never remove a kind of bra, it stays under the chest, I don't care about scars, nor stretch marks, it's part of our life, our history, I like natural women.
Ass is big but it's not big, good image of 4, holds well in the vagina, I didn't go to the anal because I wasn't tempted.
Oral tries to swallow it all but can't, drools but not much as I've read here, tries to ship it but personally I didn't like it.
He doesn't moan, he doesn't scream, he doesn't tease, I had little time in the apartment.
For me it's neutral, I want more and more involvement from the gp, I want a gp that is totally dedicated in the period that I'm paying, that gems, that provokes, that comes or that has some pleasure.
I don't think it's mercenary but I didn't like it, I think you should value more and not have prejudices with the breast, I could suck faster, more drool, look into the eyes, give rhythm.
He could masturbate during the act, tighten the sheets, ask not to stop, moan but no.
Visit and draw your conclusions. ".
"I won't go on too long because my TD was very similar to that reported by the confrere borgespinto.
Booking was easy and done through WA, information shared and given the coordinates, I'll head there.
Given the heavy traffic, I immediately see that I'm going to be about 10 minutes late and I already send a message asking if there's a problem, which she calmly replies no. I was immediately encouraged by the friendliness and cordiality even in the face of my slight delay.
Upon arriving at the apartment, I get an easy spot (for payers), but I guess I got lucky.
I call to confirm the street number, as GP had only shared the CGD reference in Campo Pequeno and the name of the street. Information complete, I go up to the apartment. As soon as she opens the door for me, I confess that I was a little disappointed with GP's beauty, her body with a few extra pounds and the scars on her breasts. I think the expectation was higher given that the latest reports had higher grades assigned, but there it is, everything in this life is relative.
I decide to stay for 30 minutes, pay before the start on my own initiative and head to the bathroom to get ready.
GP's oral was good, without and done with some technique (hence the grade 6 and not 5- As he was a bit disappointed, I asked if he did CIM, to which he replied yes, but with an addition of €20. As I wasn't turned to add more value to the loss, I decided to stick with the oral without normal and asked to go up.
Put on the condom and start riding. It was good, but it didn't match and I didn't feel like I was going to come, so I ask that we change to a doggystyle position to focus on her best attribute, that huge ass.
And so it was until I came. Random conversations while I clean myself, go to baths and on the street.
I don't intend to go back. ".
Now on to Isabella Fontoura, who also goes by the name Rafaela Moura. Her reviews are pretty good based on simple scores of 6, 7 and 8 out of 10, BUT every damn one of her three reviews says the oral sex is with condom. If that is a deal breaker as it is with so many of us, you need to ask her if she just happened to be reviewed by three CBJ guys, or if she only does oral with a condom. Here is her best review.
"I think Rafaela already had a topic in Porto, but I couldn't find it.
General Information.
Name: Rafaela Moura.
Nationality: Brazilian.
Age: Announces 35+. Honestly, she gave him less.
Location: Near Marquês de Pombal.
Price: 80€ 30 min. €100 1 h.
Time: 10 h to 22 h Vaginal.
Services.
: With condom (obvious). Very tight.
Anal: I don't know.
Oral: Yes. With condom.
Beija: A lot, but with me only pecks.
Minet: I don't know. But must do.
Massage: Yes.
CIM: I don't know.
CIF: I don't know.
GF: Yes.
Physical Appearance.
Height: 1. 60 m.
Hair: Black and straight.
Skin: Clear and smooth.
Eyes: Green.
Weight: 53 kg.
Face: 9/10.
Very beautiful. She has green eyes that go unnoticed in the ad, but in real life they are much brighter.
Breasts: 7. 5/10.
Fake, but proportionate and pleasant to the touch.
Tail: 8/10.
Large and just the right consistency. When you knead it is a spectacle, but you can see that it will start to need a gym very soon.
Legs: 8/10.
Small, sleek and smooth.
Feet: I didn't notice.
Tattoos: I didn't notice any.
Similarity to Photos: 7/10.
Honestly, I found Rafaelamuch more impressive in real life than in the pictures. I don't know if it was because I went with low expectations (it helps not to be disappointed), but when I opened the door, I was even surprised to see it.
The first thing I noticed was the eyes, much greener than the advertisement. Her skin was also a little lighter than in the pictures. The tail also looked better live (a little rounder and stickier).
Attitude, Hygiene and Presentation.
Appointment 9/10:
Easy and relatively quick via whatsapp. Sometimes it takes a while to respond, but nothing special.
Attitude: 9/10.
Friendly and smiling at first, but a little shy or maybe nervous (from what I said she hasn't been around this life for a long time), as we talk she starts to get more comfortable and adopts a girlfriend's posture.
Care / Services: 5/10.
Oral with condom and vaginal. She kisses (kisses) and massages. The rest I don't know because I didn't look for it either, but I get the idea that Rafaela might even do other services like CIF, CIM or anal.
Note that in the 1 hour service there is only 1 opportunity. In my opinion it loses points because of that.
Presentation: 8/10.
She presented herself in lingerie and high heels. Makeup done, hair styled and styled and she smelled good.
Punctuality: 10/10.
Flawless. I arrived and he told me to come in.
Time Control: 10/10.
None. I left whenever I wanted, but I also didn't abuse or exceed the agreed time.
Hygiene: 10/10.
Perfect, smelling and without unpleasant odors.
Space.
Building: Typical Lisbon building. It has an elevator.
Apartment: Shared, tidy and clean. Shower and small bathroom outside the room. I heard other people, but I didn't see anyone. I got the idea that this is an apartment shared by a lot of people and I don't know if it's just GPS.
Room: Tidy room, with a big bed, and if I'm not mistaken, without a mirror, but I don't remember exactly.
Oral Performance.
: 5/10.
With a condom and the thickest possible. Which unfortunately means that, although the oral could even be pleasant, it ends up feeling little. On my initiative, he tried to sink, but only managed halfway.
Vaginal:9/10.
Very good. It's pretty tight and even though the condom is thicker than a winter sweater, you could feel everything. Rafaela didn't need ice cream, she was very wet and you can clearly see that she likes to take pleasure (and a lot) from the moment. She is also available for a calm and romantic or aggressive and intense fuck.
Massage: 6/10.
It's nice with some technique, but it seems to me that it's the technique of someone who has seen some videos on YouTube and now knows how to touch it. It could also be stronger and more intense.
Meeting.
The first impression ofRafaela was very good, she looked beautiful when she opened the door smiling and when she turned to lead me to the room, she let me see that ass that let me foresee that on all fours it would be a tremendous sight (and it was). After a brief wash, we started making out and kissing (but only pecks). Then, oral which in my opinion was the weakest point of the encounter and finally, he went to fuck her crazy giving herself to the moment.
Here's the testimony, that on all fours it's a fantastic sight and that from ppmm eye to eye too. After busting the rest of the time was spent in the massage.
Repeat: Yes.
I recommend: Anyone who likes beautiful women with black hair and green eyes and who enjoy the moment with the client.
Best moment: ppmm eye to eye and hammered on all fours.
Final grade: 8.
I was undecided between a 7 or an 8, but the smile I had when I left Rafaela 's foot was not deceiving. She actually has some gaps in her service, there are not two opportunities in the 1 h program and the oral is nothing special, but for me it makes up for it in beauty, attitude and delivery. ".
Of the ladies you listed, Yu Ferracini by far has the best reviews on the local board. Three pages of 8's, 9, and 10's out of 10. BUT, once again, almost all of her reviews say the oral was with a condom. So if that is a deal breaker, ask her if she will do BBBJ. A few of her reviews say BBBJ but none of them elaborate on that aspect, so if BBBJ is important, ask her on WhatsApp. In general, a Brazilian / Japanese mix is a damn good combination. Here is one of her informative reviews.
"Name: Yu Ferracini.
Nationality: Brazilian with Japanese ancestry.
Age: 32-35.
Height: About 1. 60.
Weight: About 65 kg.
Face: This is what you see in the rehearsal photos. I think it's beautiful and exotic.
Chest: Medium / large, paid off but a nice job there.
Vagina: Rapadinha, no odors.
Tail: Medium / large, without streaks.
Oral: Covered, but very good. Deep throat well rhythmic and drooling.
Vaginal: Very engaging, girlfriend style. Tight!
Anal: It doesn't.
Kisses: Many and good, always with tongue.
Attitude: Courtesy, smiling, friendly and provocative.
Hygiene: I didn't see it done but everything was fine.
Cell phone: she turned off the sound at the beginning of the match.
Apartment: Good but with several rooms for practicing chores. WC outside the room with all amenities. Room small and warm but with good bed and atmosphere.
Parking: Relatively easy but metered.
Location: Avenida 5 de Outubro.
Prices: 70€/110€ (30 min /60 min).
Yu was a pleasant surprise. Tough marking and sometimes a bit confusing. Then I realized she has a hell of a schedule. Works on 5 de Outubro in an apartment adapted for labor and with several rooms. I didn't see anyone else, but I heard some female voices over there. Arriving at the place, I am received by Yu herself in a black lingerie that immediately hinted at a beautiful little body. I found her prettier and with a more proportionate body than in the rehearsal, because reality discounts the 3 to 5 kilos that the cameras add to us.
He led me to the room where he practices the art of conviviality. It's a small room and too hot, but with a good atmosphere and a great bed. She put on a new sheet while we broke the ice with pleasant conversation. I was about to take a shower and as it was a half-hour show, I skipped that part. From then on, Yu revealed herself to be a courtesan like no other. Smiling, friendly and provocative. She brings experience from Brazil where, as we know, she doesn't play around, and as far as I'm concerned, she's very welcome. This kind of attitude towards these values 8203;is almost impossible to find in Lisbon these days.
We started the TD still standing with kisses and cuddles. Yu's boobs are paid off, but it's decent work and suits her well. The nipples did not lose reactivity and as soon as I tasted them they were erect, a delight. We went to bed and I immediately dedicated myself to licking her more than anything else, which I found very pretty and clean. Reacts very well to oral, with moans that didn't seem fake to me. Then we continued with very tasty tongue kisses while Yu masturbated me. She plays a lot with language and knows how to tease. I lay back on the bed already quite stiff. Yu covered the boy with her mouth, right up to the stem. Above average oral. With a condom, yes, but eye to eye, deep throat until you drool and with a sensual rhythm. The sound of chap chap and drool running down junior still echoes in my memory. Didn't pay attention to surroundings but honestly didn't think about it. He sucks with pleasure and with great dexterity and if we don't ask him to go ahead, he stays there without complaining.
He came on top of me and put lubricant on the little one before penetrating her but it's so tight that it didn't bother me. She looks for a kiss with tongue during the vaginal and rides with sensuality. Grabbing that ass while she fucked me. Arghh! She leans against us, brushes pelvis with pelvis, whispers in our ear. GFE of the best. It didn't last long and I couldn't try anything else. It ruined me and I don't care! He didn't try to get rid of me, I was the one who was very warm after the oral.
Post-coital love nest, with caresses and easy conversation, always smiling. Bathtub at the end, in a bathroom outside the bedroom but with all the perks. Two more fingers of conversation while I got dressed and two soles for the way out.
I really liked Yu. Calm, friendly, pretty, fit body, courtesan and GFE. Had she been oral naturally and had I lasted longer to try other positions, I think I would have given her my first 9. I recommend it to anyone who likes GFE and doesn't value the anal. I will definitely come back but on the 1 h program. I think it's worth spending more time with Yu to enjoy the moment calmly.
Greetings and good pruning".
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I contacted 2 ladies on Friday evening to meet on Saturday: Isis & Bia Santos.
Isis.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
She reacted very quickly offering a 1 hour 140€ for a passionate tantra with happy ending. Sex and oral is not possible she wrote. I booked her for the Saturday, but unfortunately she cancelled me the next morning because she had her period. I could come back the next week.
I then whatsapped.
Ines.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
She also reacted very quickly and I could come 2 hours later. She is receiving in a quiet living street in Alges. Small massage place with approximately 8 rooms. Discrete to go in. Nice room with shower in the hall. She is charging 100€ for an hour. 60 for half an hour. She is about 160, small breasts, nice personality. She started with an oil massage doing my back and at a certain stage took my hand between her legs. Then turned me around and gave me a splendid BBJTC. I came rather quick. She apologized and said we will do a second time. We bring me back to power by giving a massage and then we did several positions; doggy where she asked me to pull her hair and missionair. I did not manage to come a second time, but that was me not her. She has all it takes to have splendid sex.
Later that day I also visited.
Bia Santos.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
I contacted her on Friday already. She reacted very quickly and I made an appointment for Saturday end of the afternoon. She is receiving in Av Fontes Pereira de Melo. A good location, very discrete entrance and beautiful apartment. She is a tall and good looking Brazilian. Service is very good as described below (BBBJ, Breast massage of my body and penis, her on top). Her English is minimal and so is my Portuguese, but with google translate and her continuous smile it was all fine. Definitely recommendable!
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[QUOTE=BartBarelds;2765677]I contacted 2 ladies on Friday evening to meet on Saturday: Isis & Bia Santos.
Isis.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
She reacted very quickly offering a 1 hour 140 for a passionate tantra with happy ending. Sex and oral is not possible she wrote. I booked her for the Saturday, but unfortunately she cancelled me the next morning because she had her period. [/QUOTE]No sex and no oral. So why was the period a reason for cancelling?
Inês and Bia are realy great courtesans.
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My bad. I didn't read ExExpatriate's post closely enough regarding Isis.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
I put her on the list of independents offering BBBJ and CFS, when she is in fact a highly regarded erotic massage lady who offers neither of those.
Glad the bullet was dodged.
When you do a Google search for Isis and somassagens and the name of the local board, it links to a provider offering BBBJTCIM and CFS who goes by a different name. I didn't click through to match the picture.
So Isis is merely a good recommendation for an erotic massage. But hell, so something can come from the crossed-link, the BBBJTC and CFS lady with an 8 and a 10 out of 10 on her local board reviews is said to work at a massage parlor under one name, and as an escort on Apartadox under a different name. Not as many reviews as the other recommended independents, but the two she has are very good.
[URL]https://www.permitase.pt/terapeuta/helena/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eloa-Bettencourt-7129[/URL]
My apologies.
Also worth noting that a new review on the local board said that Soraia Albuquerque of escortprivada played on her phone way to much during a session, so she keeps dropping down on the EP recommended list. The post was by a very well-respected reviewer. EP has added a lot of new ladies, so there are plenty of recommended and new ladies to try instead.
[QUOTE=BartBarelds;2765677]I contacted 2 ladies on Friday evening to meet on Saturday: Isis & Bia Santos.
Isis.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
She reacted very quickly offering a 1 hour 140 for a passionate tantra with happy ending. Sex and oral is not possible she wrote. I booked her for the Saturday, but unfortunately she cancelled me the next morning because she had her period. I could come back the next week.
I then whatsapped.
Ines.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
She also reacted very quickly and I could come 2 hours later. She is receiving in a quiet living street in Alges. Small massage place with approximately 8 rooms. Discrete to go in. Nice room with shower in the hall. She is charging 100 for an hour. 60 for half an hour. She is about 160, small breasts, nice personality. She started with an oil massage doing my back and at a certain stage took my hand between her legs. Then turned me around and gave me a splendid BBJTC. I came rather quick. She apologized and said we will do a second time. We bring me back to power by giving a massage and then we did several positions; doggy where she asked me to pull her hair and missionair. I did not manage to come a second time, but that was me not her. She has all it takes to have splendid sex.
Later that day I also visited.
Bia Santos.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
I contacted her on Friday already. She reacted very quickly and I made an appointment for Saturday end of the afternoon. She is receiving in Av Fontes Pereira de Melo. A good location, very discrete entrance and beautiful apartment. She is a tall and good looking Brazilian. Service is very good as described below (BBBJ, Breast massage of my body and penis, her on top). Her English is minimal and so is my Portuguese, but with google translate and her continuous smile it was all fine. Definitely recommendable![/QUOTE]
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How much did you pay Bia? There has been some discussion here about her quoting different rates to different people. Her Apartadox listing is not showing now for some reason.
[QUOTE=BartBarelds;2765677]I contacted 2 ladies on Friday evening to meet on Saturday: Isis & Bia Santos.
Bia Santos.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
I contacted her on Friday already. She reacted very quickly and I made an appointment for Saturday end of the afternoon. She is receiving in Av Fontes Pereira de Melo. A good location, very discrete entrance and beautiful apartment. She is a tall and good looking Brazilian. Service is very good as described below (BBBJ, Breast massage of my body and penis, her on top). Her English is minimal and so is my Portuguese, but with google translate and her continuous smile it was all fine. Definitely recommendable![/QUOTE]
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Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.
So what I saw about Soraia on the local board recently was one review that was probably botched. The one guy gave her a zero (wow), but this was despite describing the encounter in terms that would normally get a 7. Those terms were exactly what I expect from Soraia: she is a pretty, young girl with a superb body who wants to please, but is otherwise passive. She can get very into being with you, but don't expect her to lead on anything. Anyway, the gap between the description and the rating, plus his clear bad math on what it cost makes me think he didn't mean to give her a zero and botched his form.
The other guy said she appeared a little drunk and resorted to time wasting tactics, like staying in the bathroom and messaging on her phone. That is a first for her. If I understood him correctly, he was so upset he gave her the boot without doing or paying. Normally guys who don't care for Soraia think her facial looks are a little too plain or don't care for her passivity.
So, it's possible she is burning out or that the one guy seriously turned her off somehow. The latter shouldn't matter to a professional, but a lot of EP ladies aren't that. I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one clear thumbs down, but if your time is short and you don't want to take chances. As Mongerer wrote, there are so many options.
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I think there is a clear case of us all not being the same regarding our tastes.
I saw Soraia recently (I reviewed here here) and she is certainly not someone who I'd describe as pretty. Facially I found her unattractive. And I can see more than 1 review on the local board saying the same. Moreover her only nice feature is her breasts; the rest of her body is nothing to write home about. She wouldn't let me play with or suck her boobs much, stating sensitivity. Again this has been mentioned several times on the local board. Given both of those facts, and that her service is a bit passive (as you mention), I would advise people to seek out the many other favourably reviewed ladies. But I accept that tastes differ, so this may not be your view.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2765904]Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.
So what I saw about Soraia on the local board recently was one review that was probably botched. The one guy gave her a zero (wow), but this was despite describing the encounter in terms that would normally get a 7. Those terms were exactly what I expect from Soraia: she is a pretty, young girl with a superb body who wants to please, but is otherwise passive. She can get very into being with you, but don't expect her to lead on anything. Anyway, the gap between the description and the rating, plus his clear bad math on what it cost makes me think he didn't mean to give her a zero and botched his form.
The other guy said she appeared a little drunk and resorted to time wasting tactics, like staying in the bathroom and messaging on her phone. That is a first for her. If I understood him correctly, he was so upset he gave her the boot without doing or paying. Normally guys who don't care for Soraia think her facial looks are a little too plain or don't care for her passivity.
So, it's possible she is burning out or that the one guy seriously turned her off somehow. The latter shouldn't matter to a professional, but a lot of EP ladies aren't that. I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one clear thumbs down, but if your time is short and you don't want to take chances. As Mongerer wrote, there are so many options.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Avi1132;2763887]Hello Guys,
Hope all of you are having an amazing day! First of all, truly appreciate the amazing contributions of the members of the community! Such an amazing community! I will be traveling to Lisbon next week, and that would be my first time in Lisbon as well! I got a pretty much idea of the best escorts from the effortful reviews from the members. It would be great if anyone of you can provide any review on the below -.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Meirelles-Fernandes-6624[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Nathaly-5039[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Isabella-Fontoura-4020[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Yu-Ferracini-6467[/URL]
And, if you may advise -any well-reviewed busty escorts. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]From that selection, it seems that you are wanting someone who is a bit of a BBW. While Yu Ferracini fits the bill with great reviews, if the certainty of BBBJ is necessary, you should take a look at Veronica Sampaio, who gets all 8's out of 10 on her three local board reviews, which all list BBBJ.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Veronica-Sampaio-5090[/URL]
Here is one if her translated reviews from the local board.
"Name: Verónica Sampaio.
Nationality: Portuguese.
Face: Cute.
Body: BBW.
Ass: Good / Big.
Breasts: Good / Big.
Con*: smooth and smelling.
Tattoos: yes.
Attitude: sassy GFE.
Apartment: Modern studio with excellent conditions. Bedroom suite.
Location: Apartment in front of the Twin Towers.
Parking: End of José Malhoa or Twin Towers underground park.
Values: 80€/ 30 min - 120€/60 min.
When reading the opening TD of the topic I realized that I had never posted my experience with to VS. I met her right away at the beginning of her activity, which happened in mid-2020.
I've already been with her twice, so I'll give you a global summary of both experiences.
Always easy contact via WApp. She doesn't have all the days available (or she didn't at the time) because of another professional activity.
Very friendly and always available to please.
She is pretty looking and very tall. True 1. 80 and a massive frame. A portent. Not that fat, saggy BBW. She is a big woman and anyone who visits her should be prepared for that.
My motivation was to be with someone different and to a good surprise she does just that. It's different from most GPS on the sites and that, in my opinion, is even a "plus" for it. And then she has excellent customer service: the.
Kisses long and hard. Oral without very good indeed. She loves to be sucked equally and if it's done right, she turns on the machine and is a big badass. I didn't do anal even though she says she does.
I recommend. Both times I left satisfied.
It would be better if it had a value of 100€, but it seems to follow the market trend of going up to 120 and 150 that you see around and that I think is incompatible for the times we live in.
Rating: 8 very good."
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Thank you!
Thanks much Mongerer88 for your valuable information. Also, thanks to other members. I will try to provide some feedback if I am able to book some ladies.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2765909]I think there is a clear case of us all not being the same regarding our tastes.
I saw Soraia recently (I reviewed here here) and she is certainly not someone who I'd describe as pretty. Facially I found her unattractive. And I can see more than 1 review on the local board saying the same. Moreover her only nice feature is her breasts; the rest of her body is nothing to write home about. She wouldn't let me play with or suck her boobs much, stating sensitivity. Again this has been mentioned several times on the local board. Given both of those facts, and that her service is a bit passive (as you mention), I would advise people to seek out the many other favourably reviewed ladies. But I accept that tastes differ, so this may not be your view.[/QUOTE]I think there does come a time after an abundance of negative reviews like has been seen with Soraia and Margarida Vaz, that a tourist does need to consider other options. There are good younger ladies within the upper echelon of the EP ladies who consistently get almost all favorable reviews. Many are mid twenties to thirties, but Portuguese ladies age well.
One of the most intriguing thing about Soraia's initial favorable reviews was that she accepts spankings and likes anal sex. While some of her later reviews confirmed that, others have indicated that such activities were flatly refused. That is understandable, but she doesn't seem to try to enthusiastically offer other services in that situation. While she doesn't have reports of leaving early like Margarida does, it just isn't that difficult for an escort to turn her damn cell phone off during a session, and to be ready to start the action within 5-10 minutes of arriving. The best reviewed EP ladies do those things.
In terms of making anal available and accepting spankings, there are solid reviews of youngster Marcela Moniz doing both while delivering a very solid session.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL]
And what's more, EP has just added a whole bunch of advertised 18-22 year olds to the roster. None of them have received reviews yet, but hopefully there will be some stars with good attitudes who value their customers.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/betinha-lacerda/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/nicole-sousa/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sofia-simoes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/samanta-lima/[/URL]
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I never really understood where the positive conception of Margarida Vaz came from (except sources I don't look at). From what I could see, she was painted as 20 at most, gorgeous, but otherwise unengaged and perhaps a time-waster.
As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?
To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?
On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2766941]As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?
To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?
On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.[/QUOTE]It's not just one bad review; 3 of her 6 reviews on the local board are poor, including two by people who've seen a lot of ladies. I also gave her a very average review on this forum a couple of months ago.
Also, there is more than one comment stating that her body is very average and that is certainly what I found. Her "willingness" is also in question in more than one review including mine.
Regarding Flora Neves or any other lady, all we can go on is the reviews currently there. The fact that a lady used to have positive reports doesn't mean we ignore the negative reports coming through now. Whether it's burn out or whatever, a poor service is a poor service.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2766640]I think there does come a time after an abundance of negative reviews like has been seen with Soraia and Margarida Vaz, that a tourist does need to consider other options. There are good younger ladies within the upper echelon of the EP ladies who consistently get almost all favorable reviews. Many are mid twenties to thirties, but Portuguese ladies age well.
One of the most intriguing thing about Soraia's initial favorable reviews was that she accepts spankings and likes anal sex. While some of her later reviews confirmed that, others have indicated that such activities were flatly refused. That is understandable, but she doesn't seem to try to enthusiastically offer other services in that situation. While she doesn't have reports of leaving early like Margarida does, it just isn't that difficult for an escort to turn her damn cell phone off during a session, and to be ready to start the action within 5-10 minutes of arriving. The best reviewed EP ladies do those things.[/QUOTE]I agree, there is enough negative press about Soraia and Margarida to steer clear of them even if no other ladies are available when you need an appointment!
That's a good list of potential alternatives that you have referenced. Of course, there are plenty more on sites like Apartadox. It's nice to only see ladies with reviews, but sometimes we need to TOFTT!
I would highlight one thing about Debora Dias who has very recently appeared on the EP site; there is a TS called Debora Dias on several other Lisbon escort sites. The lady has features similar to the EP Debora, albeit a bigger lady and not as attractive in my opinion. Perhaps it is the same Debora, she has lost weight now and the EP pictures are heavily airbrushed?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2766941]I never really understood where the positive conception of Margarida Vaz came from (except sources I don't look at). From what I could see, she was painted as 20 at most, gorgeous, but otherwise unengaged and perhaps a time-waster.
As I wrote, I think Soraia is enough of a known quantity that I wouldn't discount her on the basis of one bad review. Not everybody is reliable, treats the ladies well or tells the truth with these things. The consistent story for her is that she is kind of a butterface (great natural body, nothing special in the face), and very willing but wholly passive in bed. For some guys, that might be a good call. Others, not so much. I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are. Two? Maybe three tops?
To make a point, reports on Flora Neves are very, very similar in nature to where Soraia was several months ago. What to make of that, eh?
On the other hand, it is very possible that bad report was accurate and Soraia has burned out. We just don't know. If it were me, yeah, I'd approach with a little more caution if I were only able to make one or two appointments.[/QUOTE]I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".
And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.
I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.
In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.
So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceição, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2766952]That's a good list of potential alternatives that you have referenced. Of course, there are plenty more on sites like Apartadox. It's nice to only see ladies with reviews, but sometimes we need to TOFTT!
I would highlight one thing about Debora Dias who has very recently appeared on the EP site; there is a TS called Debora Dias on several other Lisbon escort sites. The lady has features similar to the EP Debora, albeit a bigger lady and not as attractive in my opinion. Perhaps it is the same Debora, she has lost weight now and the EP pictures are heavily airbrushed?[/QUOTE]Confirmed directly with EP that Debora Dias is not a TS. She is, and always has been 100 percent biological female. All of their escorts are natural born females.
Any name similarity to the TS escort advertising elsewhere is just a coincidence.
Debora has a great profile and offerings. Hopefully there will be reviews soon.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2767123]Confirmed directly with EP that Debora Dias is not a TS. She is, and always has been 100 percent biological female. All of their escorts are natural born females.
Any name similarity to the TS escort advertising elsewhere is just a coincidence.
Debora has a great profile and offerings. Hopefully there will be reviews soon.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you for checking and confirming femininity with EP. She looks great, and is stated on Apartadox as providing a 'complete' service (although I'm aware of 'complete' ladies not providing things such as CIM).
Many TS's do look very feminine and it's extremely difficult to tell post-op.
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Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.
To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.
I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.
As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2767058]I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".
And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.
I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.
In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.
So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceio, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".[/QUOTE]
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Scene in Lisbon
Dear Mongerer88.
I'm not sure that things always evolve in the way we wish. I was in Lisbon regularly in the past 30 years.
Lisbon in 1994 was the 'paradise of sex'. There were no agencies, no internet, and all ads were in local newspapers.
Most of the girls worked at home alone or with a friend or in private apartments with 5 or 6 girls.
The surprising fact was that there were hundreds of advertisements and all the girls, or almost all, were very young and beautiful. Escort girl situation in Lisbon was, at the time, far better than Barcelona, Budapest or Prague, cities I visited in the same period. Lisbon situation of today's is not comparable at all in terms of price or quality with that of 25-30 years ago. Let's hope it doesn't get any worse. The same comments can, in general, be applied to the city, that in this period was more authentic and less touristic of today. A wonderful city also if more poor of the Lisbon of 2022.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2767058]I take great interest in the reviews of younger ladies because of your astute comment "I think if one insists on a below 25, all-natural, slender girl with a great rack, the options for outcall are Two, Maybe three tops. ".
And I then feel obligated to mention when a new lady who started off getting pretty good reviews gets some subsequent reviews in the opposite direction.
I hope that Lisbon isn't the canary in the coal mine, but a stunningly disproportionate percentage of the most recommended ladies are in their 30's and 40's. The big problem with that is when you roll the clock forward 5 and 10 years from now. I am not sure if the youngest ladies are working the Sugar system, or if changes to the economy, social structures, and legal changes are driving this phenomenon worldwide. It simply concerns me.
In general, the youngest ladies feel most comfortable with the agency system that gives them administrative support. It is not possible in Lisbon to do what Barcelona has had some success with in giving them an incall environment that is a place of their own with almost all of their co-workers being their own age like Vecinitas and teensbcn does.
So the stars of tomorrow (and hopefully today) will likely come up through EP, and I wanted to note that EP just dropped some stunning new ads for ladies they say are 18-22. Now how truthful they are being about ages is always an issue. But newbies Irina, Betinha, and Nicole in particular have pictures and profiles every bit as appealing as Margarida and Soraia, who have had plenty of reviews giving them the opportunity to show they are as customer-service oriented as a star like Maria Conceio, but Margarida and Soraia are simply YMMV ladies. I just wanted to say that, in addition to mentioning that EP seems to have a promising new "Start Group".[/QUOTE]
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I certainly do think Soraia's new review with a zero was a clear mistake, because the guy had a reasonably good time. But I read the story of a review and click to see who else the guy has reviewed to learn the value of the review in terms of whether we like the same things. Soraia is hard to evaluate because of her inconsistency. Sometimes she delivers a great session, and most often she doesn't.
Margarida on the other hand is consistent and she has a niche customer base. She just got an 8 out of 10 review on the local board and the details of the review showed her usual lackluster performance. The reviewer said she had an angelic face and a smoking young firm body. He came once in the session and had a great time. I am glad he got what he wanted. He might, or might not, have been as happy if he picked a mid-30's lady with a less perfect face and body who really knows how to fuck.
There is sort of the John variant of the famous Hot / Crazy Chick Matrix. Older ladies and / or less facially attractive women often learn how to fuck better, and are more adventurous in terms of alternative sexual activities, than the youngest, hottest girls. I suppose the late bloomers are the best bet in that they become really hot after they learn how to fuck.
But many of the youngest, hottest women who are great fucks when they are 18-21 had a lot of chaos in their lives. So in that respect, Margarida may be just where she should be in terms of development as a person. She is passive and has probably been pursued by guys her whole life and never had to worry too much about working to please any of them. If a guy her age isn't happy with her, she can pick the next one in line. In other words, no chaos in her life, and she is likely quite normal for a beautiful girl her age. She seems to have no trouble getting enough customers who want what she currently has to offer. Without reviews, we wouldn't know what it is she has to offer.
I met one astonishingly beautiful escort who really knew how to fuck when I first met her when she was in her late teens, but god that chick had chaos. Recreational drug use, a new boyfriend or girlfriend in her life every few months (and they all were chaotic people, some of whom stole from her). She had a very high IQ, but was kicked out of a Catholic High School. She joked that all the spankings she got there helped her in escorting when she got customers with a spanking fetish. She dropped off the face of the earth and I hope she is okay.
But I always think of her when guys complain about the youngest escorts not knowing how to fuck. Sometimes that just means they had less chaos in their lives and didn't start doing much with sex until later. We have to keep in mind that one guy's starfish is another guy's dreamy little angel and is exactly what he is looking for. And for the guy's looking for more involvement and action, we just have to see if she is ever able to add that to the repertoire.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2767182]Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.
To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.
I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.
As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2767315]
Older ladies and / or less facially attractive women often learn how to fuck better, and are more adventurous in terms of alternative sexual activities, than the youngest, hottest girls. I suppose the late bloomers are the best bet in that they become really hot after they learn how to fuck.[/QUOTE]That is not yet an established rule but it does seem very likely to become one. I'd say that from 30 to... (you choose the limit you believe to be acceptable), that's where you'll find the best and unforgetable sex experiences. That is if you're not just choosing a luscious babe to show off (and disapoint you in bed).
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Rebeca Diniz
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2767182]Yes, exactly. What I am introducing to the conversation is the idea of the outlier and context. The recent bad review might indicate a change in the co circumstances of a provider, a bad night or that the person making the review is unrealistic, an assh*LE or a moron.
To circle around to something, Soraia got that one conflicted review on the local board. The guy didn't add up his costs correctly as an objective error. He gave her a zero (again, wow) while writing a review totally in keeping with everything we know about her -- and normally, that would mean 7.
I appreciate all of the feedback, but never lose sight of the fact that some of these people show us they can't even add.
As for younger ladies, yes, there is a dearth of them right now. Broadly speaking, Lisbon has as deep a roster as it has ever had in the certified ad site era. The thing is a median lady in Lisbon is Brazilian and in their 30s. There are more of that median, and less of younger and/or local. I reckon the latter are playing OF or SA.[/QUOTE]A recent review of Rebeca Diniz illustrates what I was saying in my last post.
The same guy who seemed to have a pretty good, but not perfect time with Soraia Albuquerque joined the long line of experienced reviewers who gave Rebeca Diniz a perfect score of 10 out of 10. Thus reviewer gives a wide range of scores and has given lists of 7's and 8's out of 10 for ladies on various recommended lists, including some EP ladies.
So we get to compare and contrast and see that some of these experienced reviewers are saying that Rebeca Diniz is currently a cut above the rest.
And she responds promptly in English to WhatsApp messages sent in English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rebeca-Diniz-6364[/URL]
Here is her most recent review translated to English. She is of course BBBJ and her reviews indicate that anal is generally available. She is reviewed as being in her mid to late 20's.
"A true courtesan.
There are no more girls like Rebeca.
Owner of an almost-perfect body (there is no perfect body) and a beautiful face, which both makes me want to kiss her non-stop and whets my lust. Dark, smooth, well-groomed skin, worked-on musculature without being masculine, a tail that makes you want to grab, bite, spank, or simply enjoy.
Anyone who reads my TDs will realize that I'm not exactly a hands-off appreciator. For me aesthetics is not even the most important thing (but it is important). The fact is that Rebeca corresponds perfectly to what is in the apartadox photos. Photoshop just removed the tattoos to ensure anonymity.
Unpretentious. Rebeca knows she's pretty (also because she works for it). But you can't find the last coca cola in the desert.
She's not silly at all, Rebeca. She has her head on straight and is good at talking, knows how to be and is fun. Who doesn't want to depend on anyone, not "papa groups", she knows what she's going for, and expects the customer to know what she came for.
And did I tell you that Rebeca is beautiful?
Rebecca's performance?
I won't go into details.
Rebeca can either be a pornographic badass or that girlfriend who gives treats on a bad day.
She invited me for anal and I, sadist by nature and trickster by condition, refused her. And I showed him that it wasn't because I couldn't take it. Thanks to the Devil, I'm in charge of me.
I think I found my white elephant. If I got the Euromillions, it would make Rebeca a rich woman.
Oh Rebeca. You are a tremendous working girl.
The apartment? I want to know about the apartment. It has perfect conditions, toilet outside, but at the door of the room. For me it could be in a hut.
Rebeca and a hut."
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2765904]Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2765904]Yes, I always put Isis on the happy ending only list. Her body to body technique is tops, and in my instance the happy ending was a TF, but she doesn't do FS or BJ. She was charging 130/ h just a few weeks ago.[/QUOTE]Isis charged me $130/ HR recently but in reality it's only 50 min because you spend 5 min taking a shower before and 5 min taking a shower after.
She has big perky DD tits and a nice toned body!
She teases you a lot and you pop around the 45 min mark. Then she finishes the last 10 min with a good massage on your neck / back / legs. 20/20 hindsight, was wondering if I could have her lay on top of me for the last 10 min with my hands roaming?
Downside: Only 15 sec per hand playing with her pussy. She'll put your hands to you side and say accept the energy of this massage or something like that. Also, no fingers in her.
Would definitely try again.
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I'm glad you got to pay Isis a visit!
Yes, I hear you. My experience with Portugal is that FIP is unusual in general, and rare for the non-FS massagista crowd. Even for an outright escort, about half the time they don't want to be fingered. It's part of their hygiene culture.
So for non-FS massagistas, limiting the time you have contact with her P is a routine management strategy. You get to touch, but less opportunity to do something she doesn't want you doing. Anyone should be able to see how for a lady doing that job 2 to 4 times a day, 5 times a week, a step like that is necessary.
Also, my experience with her was that I got the full 60+ on the mat, not including shower time. It's pretty normal to take one shower or the other out of the time spent, though. Sometimes how these things work out depends a lot on if another customer is coming right after you.
But the other side of that is ladies like Isis relax and have a bit more fun with you if they get to know you, and know you won't be a jerk about it. I'm looking forward to my second and third visits come 2023. In terms of how she measures up relative to her class, I think her body is PERFECT for nuru. And her style is quite wild and energetic compared to the others.
[QUOTE=Tna01;2770332]Isis charged me $130/ HR recently but in reality it's only 50 min because you spend 5 min taking a shower before and 5 min taking a shower after.
She has big perky DD tits and a nice toned body!
She teases you a lot and you pop around the 45 min mark. Then she finishes the last 10 min with a good massage on your neck / back / legs. 20/20 hindsight, was wondering if I could have her lay on top of me for the last 10 min with my hands roaming?
Downside: Only 15 sec per hand playing with her pussy. She'll put your hands to you side and say accept the energy of this massage or something like that. Also, no fingers in her.
Would definitely try again.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Emeli67;2572846]Dear Mongerer88,
Do you think she is at the same (very hight) level of the unforgettable Lila? (the espectacular south african girl retired two years ago).
Best regards.[/QUOTE]Keep an eye on this lady's reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Sandra-Vilanova-7232[/URL]
Sandra got an 8. 5 out of 10 (he didn't fill out the review form correctly) and he really liked her. He is a reviewer who is usually satisfied, but there is nothing wrong with that.
BBBJ, and most importantly the reviewer said this: "she's a beautiful woman. Tall, slender and fit Angolan, with beautiful legs, which it was great to be among."
Sandra apparently does not offer anal sex.
But other than that, she sounds a lot like your beloved Lila. Maybe she us your replacement for Lila.
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Lila
Dear Mongerer88.
Thank you a lot, it is very pleasant that you rember my question after some time. In my next trip to Lisbon I will try both Sandra Vilanova e Rebeca Diniz. The performances of Rebeca, described in the local board, looks very similar to those of the unforgettable Lila.
Best regards to all of you.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2770703]Keep an eye on this lady's reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Sandra-Vilanova-7232[/URL]
Sandra got an 8. 5 out of 10 (he didn't fill out the review form correctly) and he really liked her. He is a reviewer who is usually satisfied, but there is nothing wrong with that.
BBBJ, and most importantly the reviewer said this: "she's a beautiful woman. Tall, slender and fit Angolan, with beautiful legs, which it was great to be among."
Sandra apparently does not offer anal sex.
But other than that, she sounds a lot like your beloved Lila. Maybe she us your replacement for Lila.[/QUOTE]
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Got to try these 2 ladies and I must say, I wasn't disappointed at all.
Unrushed service, hot sex and cool vibes.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Lemonjack;2772152]Got to try these 2 ladies and I must say, I wasn't disappointed at all.
Unrushed service, hot sex and cool vibes.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Eva-Sanchez-2320[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL][/QUOTE]Cool. Thank you very much for the feedback.
Eva is of course very well reviewed.
Tati Bernard gets mostly all great reviews with the occasional complaint that she was too quiet to suit the reviewer.
Personally, I like quiet girls.
But can you let us know Tati's level of English fluency?
And to keep everyone updated, Rebeca Diniz just keeps getting new 9's and 10's out of 10 reviews every week from experienced reviewers on the local board.
Lisbon just has so many great ladies to see.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Rebeca-Diniz-6364[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2772161]Tati Bernard gets mostly all great reviews with the occasional complaint that she was too quiet to suit the reviewer.[/QUOTE]It's not that she's "too quiet". I'd rather have a "quiet" girl than someone overacting thunderous, loud, fake "orgasms". It's that she doesn't seem interested at all. She goes through the motions as if she was reviewing her laundry list. Exactly the opposite of someone like, say, Gabriela Sanchez: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Gabriela-Sanchez-4468[/URL].
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2772240]It's not that she's "too quiet". I'd rather have a "quiet" girl than someone overacting thunderous, loud, fake "orgasms". It's that she doesn't seem interested at all. She goes through the motions as if she was reviewing her laundry list. Exactly the opposite of someone like, say, Gabriela Sanchez: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-Gabriela-Sanchez-4468[/URL].[/QUOTE]Her English is almost nil so don't expect a stimulating conversation. But I didn't find her disinterested at all. Infact she seemed to be enjoying it as much as I was. I guess I must've warmed her up well somehow.
The way she was grinding and thrusting herself, I could tell she was liking it and eventually when I finished inside her she just made me stay inside her for a few seconds while she squeezed me tight with her thighs. Man, that was one hell of a turn on.
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I did recently a Tantra Massage in this place that another user stated he was curious how it was but reticent because of the whooping 250€ cost.
[URL]http://bodyworkportugal.com/[/URL]
I got to say I am genuinely interested in Tantra in general, so I knew this wasn't one of those "not tantra but rather massage+handjob" places.
However, it was probably the worst Tantra Massage I ever got.
She starts what with a 30 min conversation with the client, to "set expectations and get to know each other". After the shower, the massage starts with some really weird rituals. Heavy breathing, screaming, hitting on drums, hugging.
After about one hour the "massage" part starts. It's not even light touches. It's a regular massage. This goes on for about one more hour.
After more than two hours of weird rituals and uninteresting massage, she starts with the lingam. She barely touches the penis, the lingam lasts 10 min and then she finishes with another weird ritual (covering you with a blanket and singing for you). No, I didn't cum.
Please, don't waste your money. Even to those that are into weird things, you will be disappointed. I left about 4 hours after and extremely frustrated. The most comical part of it all. She's increasing her prices to 300€ starting January. So there is obviously a market for this.
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Debora Dias -ApartadoX
I finally got a chance to get with Debora Dias so since my TD on the other board didn't publish, I'll drop the skinny here:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Debora-Dias-7343[/URL]
Debora looks exactly how she does in the fotos (except for her hairstyle) and has a killer body. Matter of fact her WhatsApp picture looks exactly how she looks right now.
She's a 21 yr old Cape Verdian and fucks with energy and passion (like a young Brasilera). A nice firm tight ass and very round just how I like them. Some people prefer the tear drop and some like them where you can stick your cup on it and watch it walk away. She smells good, does oral without condom, no rushing, no complaining and does her job with passion and conviction. Her rate is $150/ HR, A-Level service if you ask but will run you an extra $50. Oral is good, she rides good (traditional and reverse cowgirl). Doggy is her favorite position, prefers it lying face down flat and be given long strokes.
Overall, I want to give her a 9 but I will settle for an 8. 5 because 9 is too close to perfection. The only negative is she only does outcall (if you consider that a negative). So if you that is not your thing and you prefer to go to the girl then she's not doing incalls at least at the moment. She also asked me to send her a photo of my key with my hotel information before she could confirm the appointment. Never had that request before and I thought that was sketchy but I could understand if she has had experience with some flaky guys out there and she just wanted to ensure she wasn't wasting her time.
I've had Bia Santos and I'd rate those two very high. I would most definitely repeat.
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Debora Dias / Rebeca Diniz / Authenticity of reviews
Thank you for the review. She is a new lady and I am intending to see her myself in the new year if possible.
I actually think the WhatsApp picture makes her look a bit different to the advertisements, but she still looks good.
It is good that she is on EscortPrivada, so there is no extra taxi fare or any of that nonsense.
I actually prefer an outcall to my hotel because it makes for a much better ambience during the session; moreover I tend to stay in nice hotels and the rooms are much more comfortable than the incall rooms. Someone commented earlier that there is no need or reason for us to do outcalls but I definitely prefer them.
They are commenting on the local board that you are a promoter of Debora, and that your review may not be genuine! I think this stems from several recent reviews which appear to be done by people affiliated with the ladies.
Rebeca Diniz has had a stream of good reviews on the local board recently, and if you look at the reviewers' profiles it is highly unlikely that they are not genuine. Nevertheless, the writing style and nature of the comments on some of them are similar. I know there were some negative comments about her which were deleted on the local board, I'm not sure why. I remember a very popular Dutch review board which used to collude with brothel houses in Holland to delete negative comments etc. There was a suggestion a while back that perhaps sites such as EscortPrivada write their own reviews to boost ladies' bookings. I always maintain a healthy dose of skepticism when reading reviews. By the way, I am not doubting the authenticity of Debora's review. I'm just making some general observations!
[QUOTE=BeenBob;2773165]I finally got a chance to get with Debora Dias so since my TD on the other board didn't publish, I'll drop the skinny here:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Debora-Dias-7343[/URL]
Debora looks exactly how she does in the fotos (except for her hairstyle) and has a killer body. Matter of fact her WhatsApp picture looks exactly how she looks right now.
She's a 21 yr old Cape Verdian and fucks with energy and passion (like a young Brasilera). A nice firm tight ass and very round just how I like them. Some people prefer the tear drop and some like them where you can stick your cup on it and watch it walk away. She smells good, does oral without condom, no rushing, no complaining and does her job with passion and conviction. Her rate is $150/ HR, A-Level service if you ask but will run you an extra $50. Oral is good, she rides good (traditional and reverse cowgirl). Doggy is her favorite position, prefers it lying face down flat and be given long strokes.
Overall, I want to give her a 9 but I will settle for an 8. 5 because 9 is too close to perfection. The only negative is she only does outcall (if you consider that a negative). So if you that is not your thing and you prefer to go to the girl then she's not doing incalls at least at the moment. She also asked me to send her a photo of my key with my hotel information before she could confirm the appointment. Never had that request before and I thought that was sketchy but I could understand if she has had experience with some flaky guys out there and she just wanted to ensure she wasn't wasting her time.
I've had Bia Santos and I'd rate those two very high. I would most definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]
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I hear you about incall vs. Outcall. EP is reasonably priced right now, and if you already have the hotel room, it makes sense to take advantage of it. Whether I go incall or outcall depends on a handful of variables. The one thing that doesn't make sense is paying a primarily incall escort to do outcall, because it costs so much more than either EP or her incall business.
That some ladies create fake profiles to do fake reviews of themselves and / or their roommates is a much commented upon practice on the local board. These are usually easy to spot, because the fake profile has only 1-3 very positive reviews and few or no other posts to its name, and these are things you can see next to the post.
Suspicion on this score is so much the case that a newbie posting an upbeat review is invariably accused of being a fake profile.
Still, it's a relatively minor problem on the local board (and here, for that matter). It's surprising the escorts don't resort to the trick more often or adopt a more sophisticated and systematic approach. One would think the ladies with crap reputations would be very motivated to whitewash themselves a little.
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EP: Suspect and Bad Performers
So long as I'm here, I think it's a useful service to review EP girls who are known to be bad actors or are suspect.
Vera Guerra -- she's a hot young thing, but a complainer and a time waster.
Mafalda Melo -- she is suspected to be Nicole Forte / Monica Melo, who is gross and probably a drug addict.
Vanessa Figueriredo -- this profile dates from six or seven years ago, and neither the age or the photos are updated.
Catarina Rodriguez, Barbara Gouveia, Julia Nobrega -- recent reports on these ladies suggest a strong chance they are burned out, but still working.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2773382]Thank you for the review. She is a new lady and I am intending to see her myself in the new year if possible.
I actually think the WhatsApp picture makes her look a bit different to the advertisements, but she still looks good.
It is good that she is on EscortPrivada, so there is no extra taxi fare or any of that nonsense.
I actually prefer an outcall to my hotel because it makes for a much better ambience during the session; moreover I tend to stay in nice hotels and the rooms are much more comfortable than the incall rooms. Someone commented earlier that there is no need or reason for us to do outcalls but I definitely prefer them.
They are commenting on the local board that you are a promoter of Debora, and that your review may not be genuine! I think this stems from several recent reviews which appear to be done by people affiliated with the ladies.
Rebeca Diniz has had a stream of good reviews on the local board recently, and if you look at the reviewers' profiles it is highly unlikely that they are not genuine. Nevertheless, the writing style and nature of the comments on some of them are similar. I know there were some negative comments about her which were deleted on the local board, I'm not sure why. I remember a very popular Dutch review board which used to collude with brothel houses in Holland to delete negative comments etc. There was a suggestion a while back that perhaps sites such as EscortPrivada write their own reviews to boost ladies' bookings. I always maintain a healthy dose of skepticism when reading reviews. By the way, I am not doubting the authenticity of Debora's review. I'm just making some general observations![/QUOTE]That is a problem with review boards. They can't see that BeenBob is a respected senior member here with experience in Brazil and Portugal. And they probably won't accept a comment noting that, even though it would be beneficial for the readers there.
EP has an upper echelon of ladies with many good reviews, a group of ladies such as Debora and Marcela Moniz with an outstanding review or two that we all hope will continue, a large number of ladies such as Sara Valente who some guys (including me) love and others don't, a ton of unreviewed ladies, and as ExExpatriate noted some consistent under-performers and recent burnouts. The only thing I question on that part of his list is Catarina Rodriguez. She got a lukewarm 6 and a 7 out of 10 on the local board, but good reviews and mentions on other review boards, so I would put her on the YMMV list instead of the Don't See / Possible Burnout list.
In general, the guys on the local board don't like EP. And EP knows that and doesn't live or die based on reviews there. They don't like that EP doesn't offer incalls, without cutting them any slack on the point that if an agency in Portugal offers incall, it starts getting perilously close to possibly violating the laws against pimping, pandering and operating a brothel. Those laws are less of a concern when two or three ladies share a trick pad. Do the same for twenty or thirty ladies who advertise with prices and services on a common website, and who knows what might happen. They are much safer legally being a consortium of independents who each have their own phone number and who only do outcall, with the agency serving as a mechanism to share advertising costs and providing scheduling assistance.
The other related issue is of course price. In addition to needing to a local needing to get a room if he doesn't feel comfortable having her come to his house, the local is paying 20 to 30 euros more per hour than a typical incall independent. And 75 percent or so of the reviews on the local board are for 30 or 45 minute one-cum sessions. So EP costs even more on a per cum basis if the customer climaxes once in the hour, which is the case for many middle-aged and older men who aren't travelers from sex-deprived countries.
And it isn't just EP. They turned like crazy against Carolina Belmont when her rate went even higher than EP's, she announced she was outcall only, and her minimum session length is one hour, with a preference for longer sessions including dinner.
This kind of shit is why we lose so much sex work talent to the Sugar Baby system by the way. Which would a cute little 18 year old prefer? Fuck three or four guys a day with half-hour incall sessions for 60-80 euros each, or be treated like a Queen, or at least like someone who is appreciated and respected? Is it any wonder that almost every lady reviewed favorably on the local board is 30-45 years old?
Rebeca Diniz is a bit of an exception. I have Whatsapped her and plan to see her on the next trip, which unfortunately won't be for a while. She clearly has an I Want to Please attitude in her responses. I just hope she doesn't get burned out, because I am not overly impressed with the conservation and long-term thinking of the guys on the local board.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2773382]Thank you for the review. She is a new lady and I am intending to see her myself in the new year if possible.
I actually think the WhatsApp picture makes her look a bit different to the advertisements, but she still looks good.
It is good that she is on EscortPrivada, so there is no extra taxi fare or any of that nonsense.
I actually prefer an outcall to my hotel because it makes for a much better ambience during the session; moreover I tend to stay in nice hotels and the rooms are much more comfortable than the incall rooms. Someone commented earlier that there is no need or reason for us to do outcalls but I definitely prefer them.
They are commenting on the local board that you are a promoter of Debora, and that your review may not be genuine! I think this stems from several recent reviews which appear to be done by people affiliated with the ladies.
Rebeca Diniz has had a stream of good reviews on the local board recently, and if you look at the reviewers' profiles it is highly unlikely that they are not genuine. Nevertheless, the writing style and nature of the comments on some of them are similar. I know there were some negative comments about her which were deleted on the local board, I'm not sure why. I remember a very popular Dutch review board which used to collude with brothel houses in Holland to delete negative comments etc. There was a suggestion a while back that perhaps sites such as EscortPrivada write their own reviews to boost ladies' bookings. I always maintain a healthy dose of skepticism when reading reviews. By the way, I am not doubting the authenticity of Debora's review. I'm just making some general observations![/QUOTE]That sucks if that's what they think. I don't know how not to be other than genuine but I'll let that remain their problem. Had I not enjoyed it I more than likely wouldn't have said anything.
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Although every corner of the internet is infested with internet fuckwad theory, the local board has a large minority of *sshats for regulars. They are cheap, spiteful, and don't want foreigners either on their board or bedding "their" escorts. Nor are they particularly respectful of the ladies, which is a real problem when it comes to making public reports; I for one have felt uncomfortable with knowing I'm sending a j*ck*ss who will take out his issues on a lady I like and contribute to her burn out.
That extends to some of the mods, which is why the rules are so unevenly / unfairly enforced there. And I don't participate there because of this latter point.
Emphasis on "large minority. " It's not tiny, but it's far from everybody. The real problem is some of the mods are part of the jerk club.
The attitude towards EP is an example. I understand that if you live in Portugal, getting a hotel room just to have an hour with an escort is an added expense. I lived there myself, and some years ago 150/ he was 50% higher than the going incall rate to boot. But some guys deal with it, some guys bypass it, and some bitterly resent it. Like the girls aren't allowed to choose how they want to do something and owe these punters something.
The reaction to Carolina Belmont/Helena de Melo is a good example. She went independent and knows her value. She charges +20 over EP. Plenty of Portuguese guys seem perfectly happy with that, but there is that cluster of jerks who were already bitching about EP and clutter up the board groaning about it. All that is keeping in mind that the going rate for an incall lady who charges 120/h to do an outcall is 180.
A factor here is that most EP girls and indie outcall girls are part-timers, they don't want to work as much as a full-time or bother with the overhead, and/or prefer catering to tourists. Having heard the stories from my two lovers who were once Portuguese escorts, it's not hard to see why.
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How do you converse with the ladies?
I guess this bit of newbie question. I'm wondering if the senior members on the board here have any tips on how to converse with the ladies in a manner that is both respectful and direct. Are there any unwritten guidelines on how to flirt with the ladies, what to expect when communicating with the ladies, what are some tactics that work and some that don't to increase the probability of having a good time?
I ask because — I'm having multiple conversations with a set of ladies but it's super hard to gauge interest or even build on the conversation. At the same time, I read posts about how some members seem to be getting a lot of traction with the ladies even before they get here.
Appreciate all the insight & perspective. If folks feel uncomfortable sharing on the forum, would be awesome if you could PM me.
I'm flying into Lisbon in the second week of January solo. Would love to meet up with any local members and absorb the culture!
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It's really just the basics, I think. Start with a "boa tarde" and use the word please.
This is a business transaction, so there is no harm in being direct, but be polite. After a greeting, I always start with the two most relevant questions:
1) What neighborhood their studio is in? (for incall).
2) What are their rates?
One specific point is you don't want to ask for an actual address immediately. Although you need that if you make an appointment,some ladies are shy about just giving it out to everyone who asks. Often, you will be told to appear at a certain block, and only get the real building and apartment number after you are actually there. So, they'll tell you to go to 300 on October 5th Avenue, and only when you get there do they say it's really 327 and come up to Apt 4E or whatever.
I also do this in Portuguese, and almost everyone uses WhatsApp now. If you don't speak Portuguese, just plug simple phrasings into Google Translate.
After those basics, bring up any other points you may have. Then ask about the time.
If you go ahead and make an appointment, you can ask about English at the end.
For example, I really like kissing. And GFE. I ask specifically about it -- even if it's not her thing, I am telling her I expect it that way. At the same time, I reassure her I don't smoke, implying my breath will be nice. What I don't do is rant about how I had better damn we'll get my kisses.
There really isn't a code or anything about making an appointment. Not in Portugal. It's legal, so there is no cause to beat around the Bush. Just think of it as a business transaction with a contractor. Direct and polite gets it done and goes a long way. Rude makes you someone they may or may not tolerate. In person is much the same; she is there to do a job, yes, but it doesn't help her find a way to dig you if you haven't cleaned up. Some of these guys wait in their hotel room in their boxers or turn up at the incall looking like they just came from a construction site (and maybe he did! They aren't trying, if you get me, so it's a good bet she won't try either.
[QUOTE=TellYouNot;2773870]I guess this bit of newbie question. I'm wondering if the senior members on the board here have any tips on how to converse with the ladies in a manner that is both respectful and direct. Are there any unwritten guidelines on how to flirt with the ladies, what to expect when communicating with the ladies, what are some tactics that work and some that don't to increase the probability of having a good time?
I ask because I'm having multiple conversations with a set of ladies but it's super hard to gauge interest or even build on the conversation. At the same time, I read posts about how some members seem to be getting a lot of traction with the ladies even before they get here.
Appreciate all the insight & perspective. If folks feel uncomfortable sharing on the forum, would be awesome if you could PM me.
I'm flying into Lisbon in the second week of January solo. Would love to meet up with any local members and absorb the culture![/QUOTE]
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Yes, they are piling on.
They are convinced on the local board that the good review by BeenBob of Debora Dias is a fake review written by Debora and are suggesting to her that she lower her prices.
But we can see from BeenBob's posting history that it is a legitimate review written by him.
I tried to do a post explaining this on the local board, but it didn't get accepted.
This is why scouring multiple review boards and paying attention to the number of posts that a reviewer has is important.
Joana Montenegro continues to get the overall best reviews across all review boards of all the ladies on the EP lineup. She just got a brand new review on the big American review board from a poster who rated her higher than any of the ladies he has seen in the United States. This is what he had to say about Joanna, who has gotten positive reviews on five different review boards.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
"Braces aside, she has a very cute face. We sat down on the bed and discussed what I was into (kissing and dirty talk), and she obliged. I told I had taken a shower only a few hours prior, so she decided another wasn't needed.
We laid on the bed and got into a heavy makeout session with tongue. Maybe the best kisser of a SW I've ever been with. A fantastic BBBJ followed, all the while she kept her eyes periodically focused on me. I probably could've busted in her mouth if she went another 5 minutes. But the bag followed and we moved into mish. She took it the dick with aplomb and was able to convincingly dirty talk in Portuguese and English (both hot). We moved into doggy and then side mish. By looking into eyes and pumping I was able to pop in the bag.
A great convo in English followed the first pop about her Cabo Verde background, interspersed with spooning and a lot of making out. She tried to make me pop a second time with a HJ, but I can't blame her for not making it happen. Would repeat 100%. ".
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Local board doubters of Debora review / Rebeca Diniz multiple 9's & 10's quickly
And it continues.
Debora Dias.
The comments keep coming in that your review must be self-promotion which can be "seen right away". They state that the fee of 150 is high, hence the need to self-promote to generate business. I can see it is your first review there, and I suspect most people writing their first review are going to fall foul of the doubters on the local board, particularly where the lady has no existing reviews.
Rebeca Diniz.
Separately, the incredibly positive reviews about Rebeca Diniz show no sign of abating; a flurry of 9's and 10's in quick succession. The reviews are all written with a type of story-telling tone that you see in fiction books. I'm not saying that I believe they are not genuine but the stream of quick 9's and 10's is eye-opening. As I said before, some negative comments about her were deleted so I am a little wary. She is another lady I intend to see myself in the new year.
[QUOTE=BeenBob;2773636]That sucks if that's what they think. I don't know how not to be other than genuine but I'll let that remain their problem. Had I not enjoyed it I more than likely wouldn't have said anything.[/QUOTE]
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I can't say I'm surprised by the anti-Dias bandwagon. On the one hand, they have a sound reason to be suspicious. But on the other, how else is a newbie supposed to introduce themselves? Wait until they have a truly wretched experience and start with that?
The best example of this was a newbie who did a handful of reviews of local massage parlors. In one of them he even said quite clearly that he was writing about his good experiences, because he didn't want to go into his bad ones. These places were in Lisbon, Cascais and Sintra, and for the most part operating under different ownership. That didn't stop him from being accused of being a fake at every turn.
Saying the 150 price is classic internet fuckwad stuff. Everyone who follows that forum ought to know the flat EP rate. It's just dumb not to.
It's kind of a Reddit atmosphere over there. 90% of what goes on isn't informative.
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Allow filming?
Hi everyone,
I'm heading to Lisbon in few weeks and I would love to keep some sexy memories in this trip. I wonder any SW allow video filming in the session? Also any ladies can squirt?
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2774412]On the one hand, they have a sound reason to be suspicious. But on the other, how else is a newbie supposed to introduce themselves? Wait until they have a truly wretched experience and start with that?[/QUOTE]It may not be the case with Debora but there are many instances where the reviews are totally fake. By their "agents" or by the girla themselves. Of course this has the consequence of many other legitimate reviews, by this or that reason, to be considered "suspicious" and endless, boring debates to ensue. There's no solution to that other than let the time pass and, as further reviews come up, see where the truth actually lies.
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Eva Branco
I can't figure out why they go on the attack against some reviews and not others. I saw nothing in BeenBob's review that would indicate that it was a fake review. He gave good and bad, and there was no ridiculousness that usually exists in fake reviews like "we made out like teenagers". Of course we know that his review of Deborah Dias was real since he is a respected member here on ISG. But there was absolutely nothing wrong with his review of her.
On the other hand, new EP lady Eva Branco got her first review on the local board, an 8 out of 10, and it was greeted warmly on the local board. While it was great to get a review of her, this reviewer is easy to please. He gave the same 8 out of 10 to Eva Branco that he gave to Margarida Vaz and to Flora Neves of EP, and to one independent who was CBJ only.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/[/URL]
The reviewer is an undemanding guy who is easily pleased. Nothing wrong with that. I swear I can't figure out why the guys who are always displeased keep doing this.
The reviewer knows what he likes. A pretty young girl who kisses, accepts fingering, does BBBJ and CFS of course. The reviewer seems to climax once in the session.
He confirmed that Eva Branco is 18 to 22, has a beautiful, youthful face, has big natural breasts with reactive nipples (the pictures are described as accurate in that she is one of the EP ladies with a little meat in her bones, a thicker body), did GFE / kissing, accepted vaginal digits, did BBBJ in addition to CFS, and in fact he did a CIM finish. Eva was described as friendly throughout the session.
Nice that we know of one more younger EP ladies that appears to be a good choice.
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How's the incall scene in Lisbon?
Any website that has 18 21 years old girls?
And what's the usual rates for incall?
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[QUOTE=TheWhatever;2774854]How's the incall scene in Lisbon?
Any website that has 18 21 years old girls?
And what's the usual rates for incall?[/QUOTE]Lisbon has a tremendous incall scene, but perhaps not what you are thinking of.
All of the recommended ladies in the last 10 to 20 pages of the forum, with the exception of the EP ladies and Carolina Belmont, offer incall.
They are independents. You contact them via WhatsApp and make an appointment to go see them at their incall, which is generally a private apartment that they share with several other escorts. The price is generally 70 to 90 euros for thirty minute incalls and 120 to 150 euros for 60 minutes. The price varies for each lady, with some offering 45 minute sessions. Some only offer 60 minute incalls.
Lisbon does not have traditional brothels or "houses" with line-ups. You choose online after reading reviews and recommendations, and book a session with a specific lady. It is of course possible that another escort or an assistant might be at the multi-room apartment, but you won't likely have contact with escort (s) you didn't book a session with.
This structure is becoming more prevalent worldwide as escorts work independently with technology that easily allows them to communicate and do scheduling. As a result, we owe good and honest information to one another as to who the best ladies are. There are a tremendous number of recommended independent escorts if you will read through the forum. Some of the independent ladies communicate in English through WhatsApp, but for most you need to use Google Translate to send your message in both English and Portuguese.
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Incall rates in inner Lisbon for photo-verified escorts are mostly in the 120 to 150/ HR range. Many charge a reduced rate for half hour sessions.
Anyone asking for more than 150 for an incall. Well, unless we're talking surcharges for extras, I can't imagine the lady is worth it. It doesn't stop a few from asking for Paris rates, but the competition is there and willing.
Consult with Apartadox, Portalprivado, Docemassgem, Somassagens, and Momentosdeprazer as solid photo-verified sites.
I'm unaware of any incall girls anywhere near 21 who have positive reviews Some outcall-only girls, yes, but not incall.
[QUOTE=TheWhatever;2774854]How's the incall scene in Lisbon?
Any website that has 18 21 years old girls?
And what's the usual rates for incall?[/QUOTE]
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I do wonder if the obviously translated Portuguese doesn't have something to do with it too. Certainly some guys who break new ground on their first review get a pat on the back for it, but they aren't foreigners.
Anyway, the local board is a valuable resource, but that said, it's also kind of a snakepit.
Bottom line, I agree it's just rules of the road.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2774827]It may not be the case with Debora but there are many instances where the reviews are totally fake. By their "agents" or by the girla themselves. Of course this has the consequence of many other legitimate reviews, by this or that reason, to be considered "suspicious" and endless, boring debates to ensue. There's no solution to that other than let the time pass and, as further reviews come up, see where the truth actually lies.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you!
Thanks a ton. Much appreciated.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2774104]It's really just the basics, I think. Start with a "boa tarde" and use the word please.
This is a business transaction, so there is no harm in being direct, but be polite. After a greeting, I always start with the two most relevant questions:
1) What neighborhood their studio is in? (for incall).
2) What are their rates?
One specific point is you don't want to ask for an actual address immediately. Although you need that if you make an appointment,some ladies are shy about just giving it out to everyone who asks. Often, you will be told to appear at a certain block, and only get the real building and apartment number after you are actually there. So, they'll tell you to go to 300 on October 5th Avenue, and only when you get there do they say it's really 327 and come up to Apt 4E or whatever.
I also do this in Portuguese, and almost everyone uses WhatsApp now. If you don't speak Portuguese, just plug simple phrasings into Google Translate.
After those basics, bring up any other points you may have. Then ask about the time.
If you go ahead and make an appointment, you can ask about English at the end.
For example, I really like kissing. And GFE. I ask specifically about it -- even if it's not her thing, I am telling her I expect it that way. At the same time, I reassure her I don't smoke, implying my breath will be nice. What I don't do is rant about how I had better damn we'll get my kisses.
There really isn't a code or anything about making an appointment. Not in Portugal. It's legal, so there is no cause to beat around the Bush. Just think of it as a business transaction with a contractor. Direct and polite gets it done and goes a long way. Rude makes you someone they may or may not tolerate. In person is much the same; she is there to do a job, yes, but it doesn't help her find a way to dig you if you haven't cleaned up. Some of these guys wait in their hotel room in their boxers or turn up at the incall looking like they just came from a construction site (and maybe he did! They aren't trying, if you get me, so it's a good bet she won't try either.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheWhatever;2774854]How's the incall scene in Lisbon?
Any website that has 18 21 years old girls?
And what's the usual rates for incall?[/QUOTE]Take a long, hard look at Maju.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
She has three pages of reviews, with almost all of the reviews being 9's and 10's out of 10.
She is reviewed as very GFE, with BBBJ obviously. Multiple pops in the session and a great attitude (although based on Whatapp conversations the English appears to be quite limited).
And her incall is described as upscale.
Her latest reviews are 150 euros for an hour of incall.
You don't want some low-end incall with just a mattress on a floor, or some makeshift place where you get led through an empty storefront, like a bizarre review described today from someone seeing a new 18 year old, whose Apartadox ad reads disturbingly like several others of new, younger ladies.
Go with someone expensive enough so that she rents a decent place.
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Yes, I concur.
If we are moving the dial up from 18-21 to the middle 20's, then let's add:
Martina hasn't been written of recently, but she scored able reviews when she first arrived in Lisbon:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-martina-4006[/URL]
And Luna Cardoso, who recently scored one strong review:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1409[/URL]
There are a few more I could recommend in the middle 20's range in Cascais, but I've observed most guys asking about this think that is too far away.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2774918]Take a long, hard look at Maju.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
She has three pages of reviews, with almost all of the reviews being 9's and 10's out of 10.
She is reviewed as very GFE, with BBBJ obviously. Multiple pops in the session and a great attitude (although based on Whatapp conversations the English appears to be quite limited).
And her incall is described as upscale.
Her latest reviews are 150 euros for an hour of incall.
You don't want some low-end incall with just a mattress on a floor, or some makeshift place where you get led through an empty storefront, like a bizarre review described today from someone seeing a new 18 year old, whose Apartadox ad reads disturbingly like several others of new, younger ladies.
Go with someone expensive enough so that she rents a decent place.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks all.
Yes this is the kind of incall I prefer.
Never been fan of brothels, that's why I didn't enjoy Berlin.
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Feliz Ano.
Since the question of young and incall recently came up, this newcomer just got a review on the local board:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1457[/URL]
The reviewer is one of those fellows who only posts about his positive encounters, seems easy to please, and gave Agnes an 8. He summoned her for an outcall, which is uneconomical because she works incall, and cost 200/ h. BUT, if she is charging 200 for outcall, her incall rate should be 150, and that is in the market rate.
My reading of the review is that she is one of these young girls who are willing and want to please, but are awkward / inexperienced / unskilled.
That said, she bills herself as 19, the reviewer thought her 21, and said her looks are just like the pictures. So, pretty young thing that will give a sweet, rather than wild time.
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Update on Carolina Belmont
So, based on reports over time, I think a revisit on Carolina Belmont is in order.
She is an ex-EP girl turned independent, a student turning outcall on a part-time footing. She is gorgeous, with a Playboy model grade, work done body and is a spectacular lay, and my guess is she is 22 or 23 now. I was with her myself about a year ago, and can attest to that part.
But since then, the reports I've seen suggest she tends to short-change clients on the clock. It doesn't read like she is a time waster. But it's more like "you got your rocks off, we're done, so I'm leaving. " The sort of thing where she is gone at 40 or 45 minutes on the hour, if that is where you finished.
The last comment on the local board rang true with me. If you are paying a premium (170/ h) for a service, you should get an hour. Not three-quarters of an hour. What harm would it do the girl to linger in bed for +5 minutes of play after the fact? All things considered, it should be a given.
So for this one. I'd say be aware. If you can't exercise a little time control of your own (hint hint), don't be surprised if she skates off ahead of schedule. But if you impose your own manner and can extend yourself, it doesn't sound like she'll quicken things. The stories read like she just doesn't want to hang around for decorum's sake. That isn't great, because it is part of the service, especially for an escort marketing herself as higher end. But at the same time, pretty much all of us who have been there speak to her manner, beauty and ability. Basically, she is getting dinged lately of post-coital professionalism.
It's really a shame that she has gotten .... impatient, I suppose is the word?
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Afterthought
Afterthought / clarification on Carolina.
This girl consistently scores 8+ on the local board, and has avid, repeat clients going back to when she must have been 19 or 20. What I am suggesting is that if you book her, have a plan to fill out the first half of your game and stick to it. If I see her again, it's what I would do to make sure I got my hour or close enough to it. She isn't a time waster or a worker who tries to dispatch you as quickly as possible, but it reads like she doesn't stick around for post-coital service anymore. Someone like that can be managed. Just make sure you finish at 50 or 55 minutes.
I wanted to clarify. Basically, I'm looking at the recent reports and imagining my couple of two-hour appointments with her if she had gotten up and left like 20 minutes early.
Some guys don't want to bother with that, but some won't mind and / or find a young lady of her caliber worth the time management exercise.
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EscortPrivada
Visited Lisbon for my first time and met four providers from the EP agency since that was the easiest method. Thanks to M88 for all the links provided on the previous pages. Paid 150 Euros / hour for outcall to my hotel room in the old town area. Nice that in Lisbon it's no problem for the girls to walk into a hotel and right up to the room without needing to interact with the front desk employees. Different from some other parts of the world.
On the positive side all the girls had very friendly personalities. All seemed to approach the session with the possibility of making a regular client rather than a hit and run approach I've experienced elsewhere. My guess is that repeat business is probably a big part of their client base. So it was nice to be approached that way.
On the negative side unfortunately the girls have only the slightest resemblances to their website pictures. And imo they are somewhat older and heavier than the statistics provided on the website. I made notes after each session with my thoughts on the girls ages and weights and will post my guesses. Just my estimates. Take them or leave them. But I wish I had info like this before arriving in Lisbon.
Adriana Santos is probably about 25 or 26 and probably weighs about 140 or so. She is a large framed girl and carries that weight quite well. A guy that likes thick and firm but not fat girls would love her look. She speaks perfect English and has a super personality. I really enjoyed talking with her about many different things. This is her full time gig and her comfort level shows. More importantly her oral skills are amazing. I mean really amazing. That was important to me because I can't enjoy banging thick girls. She started with a touching and tickling routine that evolved into a full 20 to 25 minutes of great oral. She was tireless. And she took me to completion that way. That was great as I can rarely finish anymore with oral like when I was a young man.
Joana Montenegro I think is about 30 years old and maybe 137 or 138 pounds and not so tall like the pics so she's also a somewhat thicker girl with sturdy legs and not so thin in the waist. The only pic that really resembles her is the one with big hanging tits except the nipples aren't popping like that anymore. Made me think those might be her actual pics from many years ago. Her face looks younger than her body though. Oh and her ass is still fine like the pics so I enjoy rubbing my lumber on that firm tight butt. Joana also has an awesome personality. She comes across as a very intelligent and mature lady. She has another professional line of work so this is a sideline for her. But she is dedicated and also took time to help me get an appointment with another EP girl that wasn't replying. Also speaks near perfect English.
Margarida Vaz is probably 20 or 21 and weighs about 132 or 133 and also not tall. I would describe her as plump with some belly fat. Not at all what I was expecting from other posted reviews. Her English is not very good so there wasn't much conversation. But she did know "I need the money first please" within a few seconds of entering the room. Didn't even have her jacket off yet haha. All the other girls probably saw the cash sitting on the counter and asked to scoop it up just before leaving the room. So this girl seemed less friendly overall. Also when she entered the room wouldn't allow a kiss on the lips. And whenever I asked for kissing she either kissed my shoulder or turned her cheek for me to kiss. Oh and she has a very pretty face. One that I would have loved kissing. But it wasn't going to happen. So much for GFE haha. While she won't kiss she has no problem sucking cock. Actually seemed as though she likes giving oral sucking cock and balls too. I did give her tits some attention. Kissing and sucking on her hardened nipples and she didn't have any problem with that. And she made good sound effects during the fucking. Much more authentic than most girls. Like she was enjoying it rather than hoping it might bring me to a climax if you know what I mean. This girl is a university student so just earning some money for tuition and living expenses.
Soraia Albuquerque has the closest resemblance to her website pics. Only difference is that her hips are wider than the pics. Still her weight I'll guess is about 120 ish and her age about 22. She was my favorite session in Lisbon. She has a nice slim waist and incredible natural tits with nipples that get solidly hard when getting fucked in some positions. Especially in doggy. Dang we did a lot of fucking her and I in many different positions. She was very compliant and never complained. When I finished she giggled and said "it's so hot" meaning she could feel it even in the condom. Really enjoyed her personality as well. Her English not as great as some but plenty good to have decent conversation. She's also a university student.
All the girls stayed in my room very close to one hour. I timed Margarida because of her bad reputation. And I didn't push her to stay or leave. Just wanted to see how much time she would spend. She walked out exactly 55 minutes after walking in and collecting the money. Fine by me.
I tried to see three or four of the other hotties on the website but getting appointments with these girls was like herding cats. Much more difficult than expected. So be ready for that. And once you meet a girl ask her to help with the others. Hope this report helps. Lisbon was probably a one time visit for me so don't mind spilling my guts. Enjoy and treat the girls well.
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Thanks for the reports. Interesting comments on the physical appearance of most ladies you saw not matching at all with the pics.
I'm glad you had a good time with Soraia Albuquerque her because her reports on the local board are mixed; she turned up to a recent appointment drunk and proceeded to sit in the bathroom for 15 minutes!
I've seen Soraia and never got around to having intercourse with her partly because I didn't find her attractive and partly because the foreplay / GFE aspects of her service were lacklustre; for example her boobs were the only part of her physique that I liked and she wouldn't really allow sucking of her nipples (I thought this was poor as I was quite gentle). Several reports on the local board also refer to her as being not very attractive so it's good that this wasn't an influencing factor for you. You have added to one common theme about her which is that the intercourse appears to be great – she is open to lots of positions and doesn't complain about it as other girls do. Soraia did want the cash upfront when I saw her although I hadn't left is visible on a table like you – I still remember her saying "I need money first, it's a requirement of mine".
Shame you won't be returning to Lisbon.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2780246]Visited Lisbon for my first time and met four providers from the EP agency since that was the easiest method. Thanks to M88 for all the links provided on the previous pages. Paid 150 Euros / hour for outcall to my hotel room in the old town area. Nice that in Lisbon it's no problem for the girls to walk into a hotel and right up to the room without needing to interact with the front desk employees. Different from some other parts of the world.
On the positive side all the girls had very friendly personalities. All seemed to approach the session with the possibility of making a regular client rather than a hit and run approach I've experienced elsewhere. My guess is that repeat business is probably a big part of their client base. So it was nice to be approached that way.
On the negative side unfortunately the girls have only the slightest resemblances to their website pictures. And imo they are somewhat older and heavier than the statistics provided on the website. I made notes after each session with my thoughts on the girls ages and weights and will post my guesses. Just my estimates. Take them or leave them. But I wish I had info like this before arriving in Lisbon.
Adriana Santos is probably about 25 or 26 and probably weighs about 140 or so. She is a large framed girl and carries that weight quite well. A guy that likes thick and firm but not fat girls would love her look. She speaks perfect English and has a super personality. I really enjoyed talking with her about many different things. This is her full time gig and her comfort level shows. More importantly her oral skills are amazing. I mean really amazing. That was important to me because I can't enjoy banging thick girls. She started with a touching and tickling routine that evolved into a full 20 to 25 minutes of great oral. She was tireless. And she took me to completion that way. That was great as I can rarely finish anymore with oral like when I was a young man.
Joana Montenegro I think is about 30 years old and maybe 137 or 138 pounds and not so tall like the pics so she's also a somewhat thicker girl with sturdy legs and not so thin in the waist. The only pic that really resembles her is the one with big hanging tits except the nipples aren't popping like that anymore. Made me think those might be her actual pics from many years ago. Her face looks younger than her body though. Oh and her ass is still fine like the pics so I enjoy rubbing my lumber on that firm tight butt. Joana also has an awesome personality. She comes across as a very intelligent and mature lady. She has another professional line of work so this is a sideline for her. But she is dedicated and also took time to help me get an appointment with another EP girl that wasn't replying. Also speaks near perfect English.
Margarida Vaz is probably 20 or 21 and weighs about 132 or 133 and also not tall. I would describe her as plump with some belly fat. Not at all what I was expecting from other posted reviews. Her English is not very good so there wasn't much conversation. But she did know "I need the money first please" within a few seconds of entering the room. Didn't even have her jacket off yet haha. All the other girls probably saw the cash sitting on the counter and asked to scoop it up just before leaving the room. So this girl seemed less friendly overall. Also when she entered the room wouldn't allow a kiss on the lips. And whenever I asked for kissing she either kissed my shoulder or turned her cheek for me to kiss. Oh and she has a very pretty face. One that I would have loved kissing. But it wasn't going to happen. So much for GFE haha. While she won't kiss she has no problem sucking cock. Actually seemed as though she likes giving oral sucking cock and balls too. I did give her tits some attention. Kissing and sucking on her hardened nipples and she didn't have any problem with that. And she made good sound effects during the fucking. Much more authentic than most girls. Like she was enjoying it rather than hoping it might bring me to a climax if you know what I mean. This girl is a university student so just earning some money for tuition and living expenses.
Soraia Albuquerque has the closest resemblance to her website pics. Only difference is that her hips are wider than the pics. Still her weight I'll guess is about 120 ish and her age about 22. She was my favorite session in Lisbon. She has a nice slim waist and incredible natural tits with nipples that get solidly hard when getting fucked in some positions. Especially in doggy. Dang we did a lot of fucking her and I in many different positions. She was very compliant and never complained. When I finished she giggled and said "it's so hot" meaning she could feel it even in the condom. Really enjoyed her personality as well. Her English not as great as some but plenty good to have decent conversation. She's also a university student.
All the girls stayed in my room very close to one hour. I timed Margarida because of her bad reputation. And I didn't push her to stay or leave. Just wanted to see how much time she would spend. She walked out exactly 55 minutes after walking in and collecting the money. Fine by me.
I tried to see three or four of the other hotties on the website but getting appointments with these girls was like herding cats. Much more difficult than expected. So be ready for that. And once you meet a girl ask her to help with the others. Hope this report helps. Lisbon was probably a one time visit for me so don't mind spilling my guts. Enjoy and treat the girls well.[/QUOTE]
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Adriana, Soraia and others
Hey Lucky Nuts -- I'm glad you made such good use of your time. It sounds like you would want to go back, if you could.
I'll just chime in for the others that there is nothing in your reviews I would disagree with. I've been with Adriana and Soraia; that is what they look like and how they are. There was something about the performance of Adriana that left me feeling more neutral about her, but that is down to taste or that particular encounter. As I said at the time, I'd see Adriana Santos as a solid back-up girl.
Soraia is young, has a hot body, is a bit pretty, and willing to please in a passive manner. There had been some question lately that maybe she went off the rails due to a bad review on the local board, so you've squelched that.
As for Joana and Margarida, I don't know them, but your experience jibes with everything we've seen.
So, all around a good post -- you've confirmed the details on four EP girls. Again, glad you had such a good run.
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Lucky Nuts is a great guy and his reviews should be given significant importance.
Younger ladies are flaky and unpredictable, and performance can vary with most of them on a day-by-day basis, even sometimes with the same customer.
As Kama always points out, the relatively older, well-reviewed ladies are usually a safer bet, even if you give up a little bit of the magic of youth. For further data, Joana Montenegro just a few days ago got an excellent 8 out 10 review on the big American review board from a traveler.
It is great to know that Soraia and Margarida are capable of producing a good to great session, as confirmed even by some reviews on the local board. Even if some of their sessions are mediocre.
And as with Carolina Belmont, it is difficult to get around the touchy subject of foreign travelers being willing to pay more.
Even in her local review board reviews, Carolina is described as a true Playboy Bunny type. She appears to prefer sessions with some talk and she doesn't seem to like getting pounded hard and a lot during an hour (although it would seem that the availability of BBBJTCIM would make that less relevant). For guys from the USA And the you. K. And France after the government ran off the Russian agencies, getting a lady like Carolina in the room for even a 45 minute one-cum session for 170-200 euros is much, much less than what they would pay at home for similar quality and services. She is, however, more expensive than many alternatives in Lisbon so she gets blasted occasionally in a review on the local board with the reviewer complaining about the price. It all has to be viewed in perspective.
While it is possible that the EP ladies give foreigners better service, it cannot be forgotten that sometimes the chemistry is simply better between a certain lady and a certain guy and she will provide him with a better session than she does to others.
Usually that is simply unpredictable chemistry, but I noticed that Lucky Nuts is better with women than I am.
We spent some time together once at a strip joint.
I spotted a stunner. I don't have much subtlety. During talking and table dancing, I kept mentioning the escort I had a session booked with for the next day. She said that was cool, she liked being Fluffer Girl. (A fluffer is the lady in a porn shoot who gets the guy hard for the girl he is fucking in the video). I wanted to bang my head on the table. That was not what I meant. I wanted to see if she escorts and wanted to get her phone number or email. Nonetheless Fluffer Girl gave a lot of contact during the $20 table dances and was very nice and interesting intellectually. Then Horrible Girl came and asked if she could sit down. She provided no stimulating conversation or physical contact, so I told her I wasn't interested and gave her a dollar. She got super mad and said a dollar was nothing and threw it back at me. I went and got Fluffer Girl for another dance to get the experience out of my mind, which she did and occasionally even stepped on the actual dollar that was still on the floor from Horrible Girl throwing it back at me. If anyone in the section was interested in Horrible Girl, they were out of luck till I left since she wouldn't come near me.
Someone must get good service from Horrible Girl, or she wouldn't be able to keep dancing there. I suppose it is the same with escorts. There is some combination of unknown and unpredictable chemistry, the willingness to pay without complaining, the attraction that the guy has to the lady, and the work ethic of the lady that leads to a great session. That is a lot of variables and it generates unpredictability. There are some escorts who simply get reviewed as always doing a great session. There are a few that always get negative reviews and should be avoided. And then there are most of them. Some sessions with them are great and some sessions aren't.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2571786]Kelly Morais is running an apartadox ad again.
She was something of a legend, and very receptive to foreign tourists.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Kelly-Morais-3310.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Kelly Morais ad is active again. She rarely runs an ad. It is unknown how long it will be active so it's appearance is worth noting.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2780303]Thanks for the reports. Interesting comments on the physical appearance of most ladies you saw not matching at all with the pics.
I'm glad you had a good time with Soraia Albuquerque her because her reports on the local board are mixed; she turned up to a recent appointment drunk and proceeded to sit in the bathroom for 15 minutes!
I've seen Soraia and never got around to having intercourse with her partly because I didn't find her attractive and partly because the foreplay / GFE aspects of her service were lacklustre; for example her boobs were the only part of her physique that I liked and she wouldn't really allow sucking of her nipples (I thought this was poor as I was quite gentle). Several reports on the local board also refer to her as being not very attractive so it's good that this wasn't an influencing factor for you. You have added to one common theme about her which is that the intercourse appears to be great she is open to lots of positions and doesn't complain about it as other girls do. Soraia did want the cash upfront when I saw her although I hadn't left is visible on a table like you I still remember her saying "I need money first, it's a requirement of mine".
Shame you won't be returning to Lisbon.[/QUOTE]Honestly I can hardly even remember Soraia's face. We probably all have something that strongly turns us on or off. When a girl enters my room I can't wait to see her stomach / waist. If she's skinny my dick gets hard immediately. If her waist is not tight my dick might not ever get hard with her. I was just so glad she was young and thin and then I knew there would be some good fucking. I don't recall that her face was unattractive probably because I was overly focused on other body parts. And I hadn't had sex for three weeks before she walked into my room so I'm sure that had something to do with it haha.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2780488]Hey Lucky Nuts -- I'm glad you made such good use of your time. It sounds like you would want to go back, if you could.
I'll just chime in for the others that there is nothing in your reviews I would disagree with. I've been with Adriana and Soraia; that is what they look like and how they are. There was something about the performance of Adriana that left me feeling more neutral about her, but that is down to taste or that particular encounter. As I said at the time, I'd see Adriana Santos as a solid back-up girl.
Soraia is young, has a hot body, is a bit pretty, and willing to please in a passive manner. There had been some question lately that maybe she went off the rails due to a bad review on the local board, so you've squelched that.
As for Joana and Margarida, I don't know them, but your experience jibes with everything we've seen.
So, all around a good post -- you've confirmed the details on four EP girls. Again, glad you had such a good run.[/QUOTE]Well I could go back to Lisbon if I wanted but the only girl I'd want to repeat with is Soraia Albuquerque. The others were all not thin enough for my taste. With Adriana I just closed my eyes and thought about one of my favorite blow job girlfriends when I was young haha. If the girls looked like the pictures on the website I'd be back in Lisbon on a regular basis, no joke. The German FKKs have gone to hell with prices doubling post covid so I thought Lisbon might be a good replacement for FKK visits. I'll need to keep looking for a suitable replacement or just start paying the higher prices in Frankfurt.
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If you ever do return to Lisbon, feel free to ask. It sounds like you put a big emphasis on spinners, waifs and / or stick figures with tits? There are some specific recommendations in that department.
I can see what you mean about Adriana Santos / Bianca Periera. I recall a local once described her as chubby. I don't think of her that way at all, but I imagine you and that local have similar tastes: you want a lady with a distinctively slender waist. If that is what you want, a tree trunk ain't going to do it for you, even if it is flat.
[QUOTE=LuckyNuts;2780647]Honestly I can hardly even remember Soraia's face. We probably all have something that strongly turns us on or off. When a girl enters my room I can't wait to see her stomach / waist. If she's skinny my dick gets hard immediately. If her waist is not tight my dick might not ever get hard with her. I was just so glad she was young and thin and then I knew there would be some good fucking. I don't recall that her face was unattractive probably because I was overly focused on other body parts. And I hadn't had sex for three weeks before she walked into my room so I'm sure that had something to do with it haha.[/QUOTE]
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Sure there are a lot of variables which can affect how a guy feels about a session but the work ethic of the lady, as you put it, shouldn't be in question unless there are extenuating circumstances. I wouldn't want to confuse providing a better service to one person due to chemistry, with reneging on advertised and pre-agreed services unless the guy has hygiene issues and / or isn't behaving well. It isn't even about the money the guy has agreed to pay that sum by booking her and she is agreeing to provide what she advertises and what may be agreed on WhatsApp etc.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2780593]Younger ladies are flaky and unpredictable, and performance can vary with most of them on a day-by-day basis, even sometimes with the same customer.
It is difficult to get around the touchy subject of foreign travelers being willing to pay more.
While it is possible that the EP ladies give foreigners better service, it cannot be forgotten that sometimes the chemistry is simply better between a certain lady and a certain guy and she will provide him with a better session than she does to others.
There is some combination of unknown and unpredictable chemistry, the willingness to pay without complaining, the attraction that the guy has to the lady, and the work ethic of the lady that leads to a great session. That is a lot of variables and it generates unpredictability. There are some escorts who simply get reviewed as always doing a great session. There are a few that always get negative reviews and should be avoided. And then there are most of them. Some sessions with them are great and some sessions aren't.[/QUOTE]
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2 photos
I just returned from three days in Portugal. I rented a small studio apartment in Cascais. Before arriving I joined [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I messaged dozens of women in the Lisbon area. Four met with me through a video chat. I did this to insure that the photos were accurate and also to get some idea of her personality. Of the four I chose one, Luana.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3672dab7-7f99-46ef-a407-f0108fc87498[/URL]
I am attaching real, recent and accurate photos. After returning yesterday I watched a few videos featuring Natalia Starr.
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/natalia--starr[/URL]#.
To me, there seemed to be a remarkable similarity between the two women. For a few minutes I was wondering if these videos WERE Luana!
Luana claims to be 25 but I am guessing actually 28. She is 5'7". She says that she doesn't smoke however I did sometimes detect perhaps a slight tobacco odor. She recently arrived in Lisbon from Brazil. She is from Minas Gerais and of Italian ancestry. She speaks only Portuguese however we managed very well using google translate.
Luana arrived at 9:00 pm Monday and remained with me in our apartment until I left at 2:30 pm Thursday. I paid her 1800 euros total.
It was the best sex of my life. Everything was on the menu although obviously vaginal and anal sex must be with a condom. Beyond that it seems like anything goes.
Luana is very new in the sex industry. She is certainly not new to sex but she is new to getting paid for sex. I was her third client. She is a very very nice, sweet, normal young woman. If you do meet her, please be kind and respectful.
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Luna Cardoso & Maju Rossi
Met up with Luna Cardoso and Maju Rossi on a recent trip to Lisbon. They both work from the same place (along with Rebeca Deniz, who I contacted but never actually met). Apparently there's only one *****house in all of fucking Lisbon? LOL.
As a warning, if you're shy, be careful around this location. It's right next to a busy bar that usually has a crowd of people hanging out outside. When I arrived for Luna on a Sat evening, there were a bunch of women (patrons of the bar) hanging by the buzzer having a smoke, in addition to the crowd of drinkers outside the bar. Even worse, when I left, I heard a cheer from the drinkers, like how bros do when someone scores. I didn't even realize it might be for me until I had turned the corner, but all the locals must know the building is filled with prostitutes.
Anyways Luna Cardoso is a very tall girl, slim and with very smooth skin. Face is pretty, long hair tied in a big ponytail. Firm teardrop tits and had a nice shaved innie pussy. Kisses but no DFK. She's a take charge girl in terms of how the encounter goes, which is a warning sign for me. Usually it means there's a fixed plan for what what the girl does, and it seemed true in this case. Oral started off good. She does OWO and insists you lie on your back on the bed. Starts by kissing your thighs to tease you, then proceeds with long slow licks from the balls to the tip, an underused technique IMHO. Good slow sucks too, but it doesn't last very long. She proceeded to climb on my face, which was a pleasant surprise. She moans all throughout the licking, but I'm sure it's fake. Next was the various positions starting with doggy. She doesn't position herself well to accommodate you and be / see she's so tall it becomes a bit awkward to pump. If you try other positions other than what she wants, the moaning immediately stops and she seems bored. After some fucking I was ready to pop, she does CIM so I unloaded in her mouth. I hadn't cum in a week so I could tell spurt after spurt it was a huge load. 130€ for 1 hour, with extra 10€ for CIM. Not a bad experience, but I'd prefer to try something different than revisit.
Next up was Maju Rossi. There was some talk in the Lisbon thread where someone was interested in BBWs, and I don't know if she was part of the conversation, but let me make it clear. Maju has an absolute dumptruck for an ass. Fucking unbelievable. When she let me in, she turned sideways and I was amazed at the shape of her booty, it was like a shelf sticking out. You could practically place a teacup on her ass and it wouldn't fall off. Not an especially pretty face but not really ugly. She's obviously very curvy, medium sized tits with nipples with a pencil eraser tip that harden up very nicely. Kissing but no DFK. She seems to enjoy crazy oral, she'll slap your stiff cock against her cheeks, rub it on her face, tongue massage while it's in her mouth, and make sloppy noises and moaning as she's sucking you. Next up was the licking. Maju as a clit the size of a freaking jelly bean, easy to find and easy to stimulate. It was already swollen as fuck when I started. She seemed to really enjoy getting licked. At one point she stopped me to pull out a dildo be / see she wanted to get fucked and licked at the same time. Needless to say, she got super wet from oral. Plus she could crush your head between those thicc-ass thighs. Various positions for sex, and I was ready to cum. She rubbed her pussy hard as I jerked it in front of her, and sprayed her face. I missed for a spurt and got a big glob of sperm on her bedsheet. 150€ for the hour, she doesn't do CIM. Again, not a bad experience but no revisit. Great oral, but her body just wasn't my type.
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[QUOTE=Fzzxx;2782889]Met up with Luna Cardoso and Maju Rossi on a recent trip to Lisbon. They both work from the same place (along with Rebeca Deniz, who I contacted but never actually met). Apparently there's only one *****house in all of fucking Lisbon? LOL.
As a warning, if you're shy, be careful around this location. It's right next to a busy bar that usually has a crowd of people hanging out outside. When I arrived for Luna on a Sat evening, there were a bunch of women (patrons of the bar) hanging by the buzzer having a smoke, in addition to the crowd of drinkers outside the bar. Even worse, when I left, I heard a cheer from the drinkers, like how bros do when someone scores. I didn't even realize it might be for me until I had turned the corner, but all the locals must know the building is filled with prostitutes.
Anyways Luna Cardoso is a very tall girl, slim and with very smooth skin. Face is pretty, long hair tied in a big ponytail. Firm teardrop tits and had a nice shaved innie pussy. Kisses but no DFK. She's a take charge girl in terms of how the encounter goes, which is a warning sign for me. Usually it means there's a fixed plan for what what the girl does, and it seemed true in this case. Oral started off good. She does OWO and insists you lie on your back on the bed. Starts by kissing your thighs to tease you, then proceeds with long slow licks from the balls to the tip, an underused technique IMHO. Good slow sucks too, but it doesn't last very long. She proceeded to climb on my face, which was a pleasant surprise. She moans all throughout the licking, but I'm sure it's fake. Next was the various positions starting with doggy. She doesn't position herself well to accommodate you and be / see she's so tall it becomes a bit awkward to pump. If you try other positions other than what she wants, the moaning immediately stops and she seems bored. After some fucking I was ready to pop, she does CIM so I unloaded in her mouth. I hadn't cum in a week so I could tell spurt after spurt it was a huge load. 130 for 1 hour, with extra 10 for CIM. Not a bad experience, but I'd prefer to try something different than revisit.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for those great reviews. Maju's pictures on Apartadox indicate a much slimmer version, so it is great to have realism. Of course what you describe for her body is what many guys want.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
And Luna Cardosa also sounds interesting to many, but a guy on the local board said she looked so much like Adriana Grande that he posted a picture of Adriana in the review thread, which seems a bit of an exaggeration based on your trustable reviews.
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa/luna-cardoso[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1409[/URL]
But now we know what to really expect when a foreign traveler sees these two recommended Lisbon independents.
While I am posting anyway, it is useful to note the Eva Branco of EP received a very favorable mention from a fair and balanced poster who sees both independents and EP ladies, and doesn't give all good scores to who he sees.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-branco-7346[/URL]
Here is what the reviewer had to say about Eva:
"I can attest to everything that the colleague Jota mentioned.
Eva is still in that state of dazzle of who is a new girl, it started a little while ago and she wants to please. This combined with a genuine pleasure she has for sex and intimacy makes for an explosive mix.
Her face is beautiful, her body is young, 100% natural and fabulous.
Maybe it was the best experience I've ever had with a GP.
Enjoy it because I feel like it doesn't last long in these ways.
Hugs to all and a happy 2023 with health and many others."
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Avenida de Outubro 5 Show?
I read the review of Luna and laughed. That is a very well-known courtesans house, but it isn't even the only one on that particular street!
A consequence of Portugal's legalization of prostitution, while leaving pimping criminalized, is how a brothel works. In many instances, a leaseholder or property owner converts an office space into a brothel, and simply rents out studios. That flies because they charge a flat rent, and not a per-client fee. Or that is the way it is supposed to work. Less common, but still common enough, is the same set up in an apartment.
Going in and out of such spaces is often discreet; you look like anyone else coming and going from that office building. But then there are places right next to a salon, bar or cafe. Everybody local knows what goes on, so they treat brothel-watching as a sport.
I know of two excellent courtesans who operate from normal, unshared apartments. The locations are very discreet. Eva Sanchez / Jennifer PT, who is about 28-32, and Aurora Vaz, who is 35 to 38. Both are Portuguese, and both have gym-sculpted hard bodies with implants. I've been with both and agree with the consistent high marks they get on the local board. At present, Eva asks 120/h and Aurora 150.
So, if you want to do an incall in a truly private apartment, these are your ladies.
https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1082
https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhante/JenniferPT
https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-sanchez-2320
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Ep
Looks like lots of new EP girls. Anyone have any intel on Bela Soares? She looks great based on the photos.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/[/URL]
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Name change
[QUOTE=Shaidester;2784620]Looks like lots of new EP girls. Anyone have any intel on Bela Soares? She looks great based on the photos.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/[/URL][/QUOTE]I think that this is not a new lady as I recognise those pictures. I think she's had a name change. Unfortunately I just can't remember the original name. Hopefully someone else can shed some light on this.
I've seen a couple of name changes recently. I'm curious as to why they may do it; my instinct is to think they're trying to hide less than good things (e. G previous poor performance).
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2785046]I think that this is not a new lady as I recognise those pictures. I think she's had a name change. Unfortunately I just can't remember the original name. Hopefully someone else can shed some light on this.
I've seen a couple of name changes recently. I'm curious as to why they may do it; my instinct is to think they're trying to hide less than good things (e. G previous poor performance).[/QUOTE]I looked back through the Massage Republic ads and could not find a replication of those pictures under a different name, so I am thinking Bela Soares is new.
She looks very similar to the active Irina Melo, however. Could your memory have crossed those two up?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL]
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Also, the local board has a very low threshold for sounding the alarm on a change in alias. They will do this even for escorts who have never been reviewed, ergo there is no one available who admits to meeting the escort and can possibly confirm or deny the matter. And the local board has said nothing.
For my part, I've never thought she was anything but new.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2785222]I looked back through the Massage Republic ads and could not find a replication of those pictures under a different name, so I am thinking Bela Soares is new.
She looks very similar to the active Irina Melo, however. Could your memory have crossed those two up?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Jardin do Eden
Been a while since I have been on here.
But has Jardin do Eden closed down?
Is there any place that still have shared apartments on where you can see a Line up?
Got a bachelor party in May and I'm organising the night activities.
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Yes I think it could be the Irina pictures that were in my memory. The pictures are very similar without detailed inspection.
There was definitely at least one other lady who has recently changed her first name but kept the surname the same. I didn't take a note of it, I shall do so in the future.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2785222]I looked back through the Massage Republic ads and could not find a replication of those pictures under a different name, so I am thinking Bela Soares is new.
She looks very similar to the active Irina Melo, however. Could your memory have crossed those two up?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Just had a look through Massage Republic myself, and I think it was actually Mia Tavares whose pictures were in my memory. Mia is not present on EP at the moment. However, Irina Melo's pictures actually have a closer resemblance to Bela's than Mia's do.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2785222]I looked back through the Massage Republic ads and could not find a replication of those pictures under a different name, so I am thinking Bela Soares is new.
She looks very similar to the active Irina Melo, however. Could your memory have crossed those two up?
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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The last time anyone posted about it on the local board was six years ago and the website is defunct. That place is long gone.
[QUOTE=EMassageBro;2785505]Been a while since I have been on here.
But has Jardin do Eden closed down?
Is there any place that still have shared apartments on where you can see a Line up?
Got a bachelor party in May and I'm organising the night activities.[/QUOTE]
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Irina Melo
Good news on an Escort Privada new and young lady, Irina Melo.
She received an excellent review by one of the better reviewers on the big American escorts site.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-irina-melo-7319[/URL]
The reviewer confirmed her young age, late teens to early 20's and the tall, slim build just as reflected in the pictures.
He confirmed BBBJ, CIM, LFK, FIV, anal play (but no anal sex) and Golden Shower. Her English was good but not quite perfect. She did multiple pops in his long session with her and there were no complaints about her attitude.
The reviewer gave Irina Melo and 8 out of 10, which is very similar to the other EP ladies he has reviewed including Camila Pereira and Soraia Albuquerque, both of whom got 8's and 9's out of 10, and Margarida Vaz, who he gave a 7 out of 10. He has reviewed ladies all over the world, including Fortune of Divas in London, who he gave a 7 out of 10.
Thanks to this reviewer for letting us know that Irina is a solid choice.
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Carolina the'Almeida
When I was in Portugal over New Years saw Carolina the'Almeida.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carolina-dalmeida/[/URL]
Mid 20's now, Pictures are accurate, a little less fit than the pics now. Super nice and good GFE. Man made melons but not awful. Great ass. Was about 30 min late but new years traffic in an already crowded city. Would recommend. Responds fast thru WA.
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Visit to Lisbon
Hello fellow mongers,
I am planning a recent trip to Lisbon, somewhere next weekend.
Can you please suggest someone who provides Anal with GFE (BBBJ, DFK).
Please reply as PM not working.
Thank you.
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[QUOTE=DoctorImp;2794592]Hello fellow mongers,
I am planning a recent trip to Lisbon, somewhere next weekend.
Can you please suggest someone who provides Anal with GFE (BBBJ, DFK).
Please reply as PM not working.
Thank you.[/QUOTE]Marcela is well-reviewed for those three activities.
She is outcall only.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL]
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Visiting Lisbon
Hello folks!
I will be visiting Lisbon in a few weeks and was looking for some recommendations. I have plenty of money to blow so price isn't that much of a concern for me but I do love a good deal. I like slimmer girls but as long as she has a pretty face it does not matter. Will be most likely doing outcall. Any advice on agencies or websites would be highly appreciated. Thanks!!
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#1 Isis the Massagista
I have plenty of ground to cover, so I'll drop these one at a time as I get the opportunity. And I'm starting with a return visit with Isis.
This is familiar territory, and my experience was the same as before: outstanding. She is a petite, beautiful Brasilian with an hourglass figure that is truly curvy (meaning curves, not fat). Her rack and her rump were made for nuru massage, and she does it well. Her style is steamy, sensual, and at times wild. She puts on a 5-star performance.
The downside (for some of you) is that this is a lingam / HJ only deal. No oral, no FS. Don't ask, she doesn't do it, and she cuts off rude inquiries. If you insist on that and can't appreciate a first rate nuru performance for its own merits, don't go to her. It's that simple. But insofar as the nuru goes, it is the best I've ever had.
Her studio is near Campo Pequeno, and she now charges 140/ h. You'll get 50 or 55 minutes of actual massage.
https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa
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#2 Bela Soares
This is one where I chose to break some new ground.
I haven't seen Bela reviewed anywhere that I follow it, but she has been asked about.
Bela is about 20, with dark hair and a nice face, but nothing that would turn your head on the street. Her best attribute is her blue eyes. She appeared dressed casually, but stylishly. As for her body, it is exactly what you see in the pictures, but look carefully at them. If you do, you'll see she has a thick set of legs and a big booty; basically, she naturally has the kind of junk in the trunk that a lot of girls go to the gym and do squats all day to get. She is NOT fat and the pictures are accurate. The thing is I can see a lot of you guys missing that detail -- which is right in front of your face -- and then complaining about Photoshopping.
She is new to being a call girl and still enthusiastic about it. She told me she started for a few weeks, took a month off to deal with some private problems, and had just gotten started again. She doesn't do anal or FIV, but her OWO is sans hands, all mouth, and good; good DFK; basically, GFE with the girlfriend who likes to fuck.
]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/
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And something else, while I'm here.
There is an EP girl that I think merits a warning, Frederica Lima.
She was doing incalls prior to going to EP and doing outcall-only. The pictures are pretty hot, and reports say those are valid. She got 4 reviews on the local board: her first was an 8, but after that she got a 6, 5 and 4. It reads like she burned out quickly doing incalls, so my advice is to steer clear. Maybe she is a hottie, but now she DGAF about service.
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Thank you for the review. She does look good, and would appeal to booty lovers who like curves.
In terms of photoshopping, either they look like the pictures or they don't. I have just accepted that the pictures are going to be photoshopped to an extent, and I don't expect the girls to look exactly like them. It's when they are heavily photoshopped that you have an issue.
It's disappointing that she didn't do FIV, as it is advertised as being something she provides:
[URL]https://ondate.io/portugal/lisbon/female-escorts/216432-bela-soares[/URL]
The above site is quite useful to get a detailed picture of what each girl provides (the EP and Apartadox sites are very thin on details).
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2795092]This is one where I chose to break some new ground.
I haven't seen Bela reviewed anywhere that I follow it, but she has been asked about.
Bela is about 20, with dark hair and a nice face, but nothing that would turn your head on the street. Her best attribute is her blue eyes. She appeared dressed casually, but stylishly. As for her body, it is exactly what you see in the pictures, but look carefully at them. If you do, you'll see she has a thick set of legs and a big booty; basically, she naturally has the kind of junk in the trunk that a lot of girls go to the gym and do squats all day to get. She is NOT fat and the pictures are accurate. The thing is I can see a lot of you guys missing that detail -- which is right in front of your face -- and then complaining about Photoshopping.[/QUOTE]
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Agencies / Sites In Lisbon
[QUOTE=JoeSaunders;2795001]Hello folks!
I will be visiting Lisbon in a few weeks and was looking for some recommendations. I have plenty of money to blow so price isn't that much of a concern for me but I do love a good deal. I like slimmer girls but as long as she has a pretty face it does not matter. Will be most likely doing outcall. Any advice on agencies or websites would be highly appreciated. Thanks!![/QUOTE]Escort Privada (IMO) is the most accurate and reliable. Photos are generally accurate, prices straight forward, easy to contact and arrange.
ApartadoX is also good, esp. Since they have videos of each girl, which makes photoshopping difficult.
Happy mongering!
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Escort Privada is an outcall agency. The photos are reliable, and the rate is a flat 150/ h + extras. Each profile has a list of what those are.
Apartadox, Portal Privado and Momentos de Prazer are the three photo-verified sites I rely on. Apartadox is by far the most popular, but it is worth looking at all three because some ladies will advertise on just one and it might not be Apartadox. For the most part, ladies on those sites do primarily incall, and it's not worth engaging an incall escort for outcall due to the mark-up. The going rate for an hour at incall is currently 120 to 150. However, outcall -only girls advertise there too; Carolina Belmont and all the EP girls are also on Apartadox, and Portal Privado also has some outcall-only advertisers.
For specific recommendations, I ask that you narrow down what you are looking for. Slimmer and pretty leaves a lot of ground to cover.
[QUOTE=JoeSaunders;2795001]Hello folks!
I will be visiting Lisbon in a few weeks and was looking for some recommendations. I have plenty of money to blow so price isn't that much of a concern for me but I do love a good deal. I like slimmer girls but as long as she has a pretty face it does not matter. Will be most likely doing outcall. Any advice on agencies or websites would be highly appreciated. Thanks!![/QUOTE]
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#3 Giovanna Torres
My other return was to call on Giovanna Torres again. She has put on a little winter weight since I last saw her, but so have I, so whatever!
Gi is about 28 or 29; pretty with Brasilian looks; soft, well-done implants; tasteful tats and a piercing, and by tasteful I mean I enjoy seeing them. She really is a lovely woman.
In terms of style, she is a great kisser in the big and wet manner. She has great oral skills and is just an all-around good fuck, one who will be take and follow the lead. Since I last saw her, she has started working on nuru massage. I visited for two hours, so we "had a clash" (as the locals say), she applied her new technique, and we had another clash.
I felt very well-cared for. Her rate is 150/ h.
The only drawback I see for Gi is that her English is almost non-existent. I usually want to talk with my ladies, but her positives far outweigh that one little issue.
Gi has a studio in Estoril, very near the beach. Even if you aren't in the Estoril / Cascais area, I endorse her so strongly that I tell you to get on the Linha de Cascais commuter train and go visit her. You'll find it easy and can make an afternoon by the sea of it.
https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-cascais/acompanhantes-cascais.php?acompanhante=1390
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Thanks for the great contributions
In Lisbon for awhile and have been perusing the thread. Found a lot of great info to help a monger make decisions so thank you all.
My first go was Valeria Diaz from EP: [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valeria-diaz/[/URL]. Her reviews are generally accurate, but she was a bit more mature than expected based on the photos. Still, she is very enthusiastic and gives great OWO so it was a fun time. She also doesn't watch the clock at all and probably stayed for 90 minutes.
Next I saw Kelly Morais from APX: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]. Her photos may be a bit old, but she has a great body if you're into curves and speaks great english. She also is insanely talented when it comes to BBBJ, wow. Will repeat, especially for a quick go at 80 for an unrushed 30 min.
I've got a few more on my short list to try so will report back.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2795664]Escort Privada is an outcall agency. The photos are reliable, and the rate is a flat 150/ h + extras. Each profile has a list of what those are.
Apartadox, Portal Privado and Momentos de Prazer are the three photo-verified sites I rely on. Apartadox is by far the most popular, but it is worth looking at all three because some ladies will advertise on just one and it might not be Apartadox. For the most part, ladies on those sites do primarily incall, and it's not worth engaging an incall escort for outcall due to the mark-up. The going rate for an hour at incall is currently 120 to 150. However, outcall -only girls advertise there too; Carolina Belmont and all the EP girls are also on Apartadox, and Portal Privado also has some outcall-only advertisers.
For specific recommendations, I ask that you narrow down what you are looking for. Slimmer and pretty leaves a lot of ground to cover.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the recommendation. Young and English speaking would be great. I would also love to see their face beforehand whether that's FT, that may be asking for much but maybe not if it's money involved.
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[QUOTE=PeteMpls;2795994]Next I saw Kelly Morais from APX: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]. Her photos may be a bit old, but she has a great body if you're into curves and speaks great english. She also is insanely talented when it comes to BBBJ, wow. Will repeat, especially for a quick go at 80 for an unrushed 30 min[/QUOTE]I envy you. She's in my top 5 all time in all my travels. Good to hear she's doing well. Sweet girl.
Best Regards.
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#4 Flora Neves
I think JoeSaunders will want to pay attention to this one. My last review from the last visit is Flora Neves, an EP girl. I can confirm all of the positive things said about her.
Flora is 21-22, a slender girl standing at 5'9" (like 183 cm? She is a cutie. I wouldn't call her beautiful or even pretty in terms of her looks, but she isn't plain either -- instead, she is my idea of cute. Her body, however, is that of a swimsuit model: tall, slender; leggy; full, natural and shapely breasts. The pictures are accurate in that respect, although they were taken in summer, when she had more of a tan. Flora has a thick head of curly black hair, which is something I really like. I liked her enough that I called her up twice, and she came dressed casually and like a student both times. Flora is also scrupulous about hygiene -- quick showers at the beginning and end.
In terms of the action, her style and manner fit her looks: she is a cute girl, and a sweetheart in bed. The reason I called her back is my instincts told me ahe liked being with me and would open up more the second time, and she did. The difference there was that she was much more relaxed and took the lead on positions some of the time -- she came back and wanted something from me :) So, YMMV, but she likes to please within her boundaries, so expect a decent baseline.
She is a kisser, but held back her tongue the first time and was modest with it the second. Decent oral, and a modestly participative fuck. In terms of looks, personality and style, she reminded me a lot of an FWB I had some 20 years ago.
150/h, as per EP. I didn't try the anal.
https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/
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Incall recommendations
Two incalls I suggest from personal experience are Aurora Vaz and Eva Sanchez / Jennifer PT. I don't think anyone would dispute that both are pretty ladies, both have gym-solid bodies, and both have well-done implants. I think Aurora is on holidays right now, but may be back for your visit and is on Portal Privado. Eva / Jennifer is on Momentos de Prazer and Apartadox.
Also, check out Eller Rocha. She is on AP and PP. Her face is there on both ads and she could fit your bill.
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[QUOTE=Smuler;2796175]I envy you. She's in my top 5 all time in all my travels. Good to hear she's doing well. Sweet girl.
Best Regards.[/QUOTE]That is saying something! She is definitely a gem.
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Since my last post I have seen a couple others:
1. I had a body to body massage with Evah, a beautiful Ukrainian stunner. She has an incredible body and was a pleasure to see. 80 for 30 min B2B [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/evah/[/URL].
2. Irina Melo is a 20 yr old with a tight body that reminds me a bit of Natalie Portman when she was young. Her body is incredible, and she has a good GFE attitude. The only caveat is that she seems fairly new so needs a little direction but that's workable. I will definitely invite her again. [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL].
Happy mongering friends!
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Today I saw Flora Neves from EP. She is young and has an incredible body. Thin, tall, and heavy set of natural tits that sit perfectly. She took a minute to warm up but once she did she was great. She was open to many positions and is talkative and friendly / GFE. The CIM finish was one for the books.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
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Monica Portuguesa + Bella Azevedo
Two great finds! With an unusual point in common: both look so much better in the flesh than in their photo essays (which are quite appealing, actually). Monica is younger, a fresh and engaging 30 something -, Bella must be in her late 30's but could easily be the beautiful younger sister of the lady we see in the photos of Apartado X. Both are instantly friendly and willing to provide great GFE, FK, and BBBJ (Monica BBBJ, Bella BBBJTC). None of them offer A-Level which as far as I'm concerned is no problem at all. DATY is enthusiastically accepted and a great starting point for what follows.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/[/URL] + [URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/83856-monica-926559113[/URL].
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Need Advice!
Hello all,
First want to say thanks for such a wealth of information! Need advice as it's going to be my first time in Lisbon from NY. Need some advice on how to book for an incall? E. g. Is it easy to book or find the places as I do have zero Portuguese? Does it really difficult to book for incall session? Any tips for an English-speaking guy would be helpful.
The Outcall session is pretty straight forward which I can sense.
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[QUOTE=Jacob8031;2797076]Hello all,
First want to say thanks for such a wealth of information! Need advice as it's going to be my first time in Lisbon from NY. Need some advice on how to book for an incall? E. g. Is it easy to book or find the places as I do have zero Portuguese? Does it really difficult to book for incall session? Any tips for an English-speaking guy would be helpful.
The Outcall session is pretty straight forward which I can sense.[/QUOTE]Europe isn't Mars. In fact it is quite a bit like NYC in terms of buildings and entries.
There will be a street name, a street address, often a building entry code, an apartment number, and elevators with floor numbers.
And most importantly Portugal has Uber to take you to the places, allowing you to type in the street address.
Most addresses and street numbers are the same in English and Portuguese. So no translation is really required for that part.
If you are communicating with a lady on WhatsApp, and she is writing in Portuguese, just highlight the text and copy the text to Google Translate on your smart phone to read it in English.
But take Uber or a cab to the incall. Lisbon is like San Francisco with respect to the hills. If you are going to a place on a hill, the street will suddenly sort of end and pick up somewhere nearby. It is easy to get lost. Which is fun if you are exploring. Not fun if you are on a timeline involving an incall escort.
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Sure. I'm assuming that if you've been reading the thread, you know what sites to review for incall ladies. These will indicate if the lady works with English. Note that "works with" isn't the same as "speaks. " She may or may not have workable English, but she is willing to deal with translation issues.
Second, in addition to asking about if she can see you when you want to go, price, if she does your requests, etc. Don't forget to ask about where her studio is early on. As a visitor without a car, it matters. In that respect, it's like anything else you might want to do, except the ads don't necessarily tell you what the address is.
Finally, beware the tourist tax. Incall rates should be 120-150 per hour, with half hours being rounded up from half that (70 or 80).
[QUOTE=Jacob8031;2797076]Hello all,
First want to say thanks for such a wealth of information! Need advice as it's going to be my first time in Lisbon from NY. Need some advice on how to book for an incall? E. g. Is it easy to book or find the places as I do have zero Portuguese? Does it really difficult to book for incall session? Any tips for an English-speaking guy would be helpful.
The Outcall session is pretty straight forward which I can sense.[/QUOTE]
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Need Advice!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2797381]Sure. I'm assuming that if you've been reading the thread, you know what sites to review for incall ladies. These will indicate if the lady works with English. Note that "works with" isn't the same as "speaks. " She may or may not have workable English, but she is willing to deal with translation issues.
Second, in addition to asking about if she can see you when you want to go, price, if she does your requests, etc. Don't forget to ask about where her studio is early on. As a visitor without a car, it matters. In that respect, it's like anything else you might want to do, except the ads don't necessarily tell you what the address is.
Finally, beware the tourist tax. Incall rates should be 120-150 per hour, with half hours being rounded up from half that (70 or 80).[/QUOTE]Thanks much ExExpatriate for the insights. Is it really difficult to find the studio as a newbie? And, also I believe the studio would be pretty safe for the incall session! And, Can I make a booking, for say a day earlier or 5-6 hours earlier, or does it need to be instant? Like within 1 or 2 hours for an example! Thanks again.
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Bunch of EP reviews
New to the forum but I've been living in Lisbon since June 2021 and have seen a lot of the ladies at EP. I usually book the girls for 2 hours.
I'm sure it's clear to most but EP is an agency and you are never speaking to the lady herself via whatsapp. They have a bunch of receptionists who are good at scheduling but can be very inept with forgetting your details for repeat bookings with the same girl. They always respond quickly, though.
Here are some quick reviews:
Flora Neves: Well reviewed on here recently and I can concur with these. I find her very attractive and her body is amazing. Sweet, slightly reserved personality but she really opens up and isn't mechanical. She is legitimately 19.
Mia Verissimo: Saw her last week and quite honestly, I think she's a man. Something's definitely off. Paid "her" a travel fee and sent her packing. Looks like a totally inflated bimbo in person and not in a good way. Face and body have been surgically altered into something approaching grotesque.
Olivia Sampaio: Pretty face and bubbly personality, but she's out of shape and tries to be too dominant in bed for my liking. Gave me a soft dick with all of her WWE gyrations so I sent her away early.
Vanessa Morais: Saw her in 2021 when she first worked with EP. Pretty face and quite skinny, but enthusiastic in bed. Well, she was. No idea now.
Marta Castro: Contrary to most reviewers, I don't get the hype. She has a pretty face and is attractive with the clothes on but very arrogant and overfamiliar with her conversation, and her body is absolutely busted from pregnancy with stretch marks everywhere.
Adriana Santos: Looks like a typical Eastern European low level IG model type. She wouldn't be my first choice but she's a nice girl and her body is curvy but not flabby. Great BJ.
Amalia Leal: Cute little Brazilian. Skinnier than she looks in the photos. Very new and very enthusiastic. Says she's 24 and has been in Portugal for 3 months.
Sara Valente: Was hotter in 2021. She lost a ton of weight and the tis are gone. Brilliant personality and enthusiasm, though. Hygiene is poor. She won't shower before or after, even though she shows up well dressed etc.
Mafalda Melo: Mid-thirties, weird, unenthusiastic. Avoid.
Eva Branco: Seen her twice and she's very submissive and gives a great no hands BJ, but she's just not that attractive overall. Her personality makes up for it a lot. Great tits and a chunky body. Saw her in December when she started.
Lara Lima: Saw her in 2021 when she had a different name. Way too many tattoos and just average.
Ariana Luz: If you want to fuck Wonder Woman, this is the one. Easily 6 ft tall. Biggest nipples I've seen and her body is olympic level muscular. I had a good time.
Diana Real: Fat. Unenthusiastic.
Joana Montenegro: Very enchanting, charismatic lady. Only seen her once and she's got a great body. Probably 30 years old. She's good at role playing intimacy but she doesn't really get into the sex.
Samanta Lima: Man-hating drug addict with insanely dark energy. Below average looks - 3 out of 10 at best. Don't even bother.
Angelica Silva: They did a great photoshop job with this one. She's 30+ and out of shape. Not fun.
Matilde Ribeiro: Mid-30's, asian looking Brazilian. Enthusiastic and has a thing for making you finish with CIM. Good gym toned MILF type but her tits are damaged from implant removal surgery.
Margarida Vaz: Reviews have gotten better so I won't knock her too much, but I was one of her first clients and she was a plank of wood. Absolutely terrified of the job at the time, so I sent her away early. Nice girl, but not nearly as attractive as some reviewers have mentioned. To me, she's much heavier than the photos suggest and although her face is pretty, she's just a cute, plain girl you wouldn't notice on the street.
Catarina Rodriguez: Saw her when she started, before the fake tits. Really bad breath and out of shape. Don't remember much else.
Maria Conceicao: Gone now but I saw her a lot in 2021 and early 2022. She returned briefly and quit because she had herpes. Claims it was from a boyfriend but she was barebacking clients. She offered, I declined.
Frederica Lima: Haven't seen her but have a suspicion she was on EP before as Sofia Andrade (similar physical stats with a very large thigh tattoo). Can't quite tell but I had seen Sofia and wouldn't recommend at all.
Soraia Albuquerque: She must be better now. I was one of her earliest clients and apart from the great tits, I was pretty disappointed when I saw her looks.
Vivianne Miller: She was on the site briefly last year, was hardly available and is gone now. Maybe she'll be back. Bombshell 19 year old Brazilian with the best body I've seen on an escort. Had a brilliant time.
Nicole Sousa: She's gone now but was easily one of the best girls last year. Around 25 years old and actually a semi-famous IG influencer from Benfica. Sexy looks and did everything with enthusiasm.
Ariana Pilar: Was Debora Pires / Tatiana Souza on EP last year. Pretty average. Looks good, but quite jaded. Great tits and very good BJ if you catch her on the right day.
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Mia Verissimo?
Has anyone seen Mia Verissimo? I wasn't able to find any info here or on the local board, but she looks temping. [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mia-verissimo/[/URL].
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IMO, finding an escort's apartment / studio is the same as finding a normal apartment or studio in practical terms.
Usually they will tell you the street address of the building. When you get there, you message them and they'll buzz the door and tell you the apartment number. You go there; often they'll be right inside the door, looking out for you.
Insofar as that goes, just remember that in Europe, the ground floor is zero, not 1. In Portugal, sometimes apartments are coded as left or right, which will appear as E or D. So 3 E, meaning 3rd floor (starting from the ground as zero) on the left.
[QUOTE=Jacob8031;2797392]Thanks much ExExpatriate for the insights. Is it really difficult to find the studio as a newbie? And, also I believe the studio would be pretty safe for the incall session! And, Can I make a booking, for say a day earlier or 5-6 hours earlier, or does it need to be instant? Like within 1 or 2 hours for an example! Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PeteMpls;2797525]Has anyone seen Mia Verissimo? I wasn't able to find any info here or on the local board, but she looks temping. [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/mia-verissimo/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Did a quick review on her. Took one look at her and decided she was a post-op TS and asked her to leave. Everything was off, from the demeanour to the look. Don't think she'll be on EP long. Frankly, "she" looks hideous. If you want the bimbo look without the why chromosome, there are plenty of escorts like that on all of the sites.
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Thank you all of this fantastic information.
[QUOTE=PER23;2797517]New to the forum but I've been living in Lisbon since June 2021 and have seen a lot of the ladies at EP. I usually book the girls for 2 hours.
I'm sure it's clear to most but EP is an agency and you are never speaking to the lady herself via whatsapp. They have a bunch of receptionists who are good at scheduling but can be very inept with forgetting your details for repeat bookings with the same girl. They always respond quickly, though.
Here are some quick reviews:
Flora Neves: Well reviewed on here recently and I can concur with these. I find her very attractive and her body is amazing. Sweet, slightly reserved personality but she really opens up and isn't mechanical. She is legitimately 19.
Mia Verissimo: Saw her last week and quite honestly, I think she's a man. Something's definitely off. Paid "her" a travel fee and sent her packing. Looks like a totally inflated bimbo in person and not in a good way. Face and body have been surgically altered into something approaching grotesque.
Olivia Sampaio: Pretty face and bubbly personality, but she's out of shape and tries to be too dominant in bed for my liking. Gave me a soft dick with all of her WWE gyrations so I sent her away early....[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the 411!
Thanks for all the info!
First, if EP let a post-op trans in, and without declaring it, that is dismaying in the extreme. But, when I saw that ad I thought "why does a young woman already look like a porno plastic surgery disaster?" Because you can see that much without looking at her face.
That is so sad about Maria. With the EP girls, I always wish for the good ones that they make whatever money they need and get out without any lasting issues. Condoms aren't great at stopping herpes or HPV, but they are something. And if she had begun offering BBFS on the regular, she should count herself lucky if it was just herpes.
About Mafalda Melo -- how were her teeth? I suspect she is Nicole Forte / Monica Melo.
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Thanks for the reviews! What stands out is that you wouldn't recommend the vast majority of the ladies you've seen. I'm sorry for your bad experiences or encountering ladies who didn't appeal physically. Must say I'm disappointed as I had thought EP was decent overall.
You've actually touched on a number of things that have been discussed in the last few months, in particular photoshopping and name changes.
I've seen Soraia Albuquerque and was as disappointed as you with her looks. I didn't send Soraia away but I've since wondered whether I would have the nerve to send a girl back if first impressions were bad (either photoshopping, they way they talk etc).
[QUOTE=PER23;2797517]New to the forum but I've been living in Lisbon since June 2021 and have seen a lot of the ladies at EP. I usually book the girls for 2 hours.
I'm sure it's clear to most but EP is an agency and you are never speaking to the lady herself via whatsapp. They have a bunch of receptionists who are good at scheduling but can be very inept with forgetting your details for repeat bookings with the same girl. They always respond quickly, though.
Here are some quick reviews:
Flora Neves: Well reviewed on here recently and I can concur with these. I find her very attractive and her body is amazing. Sweet, slightly reserved personality but she really opens up and isn't mechanical. She is legitimately 19.
Mia Verissimo: Saw her last week and quite honestly, I think she's a man. Something's definitely off. Paid "her" a travel fee and sent her packing. Looks like a totally inflated bimbo in person and not in a good way. Face and body have been surgically altered into something approaching grotesque.
Olivia Sampaio: Pretty face and bubbly personality, but she's out of shape and tries to be too dominant in bed for my liking. Gave me a soft dick with all of her WWE gyrations so I sent her away early.
Vanessa Morais: Saw her in 2021 when she first worked with EP. Pretty face and quite skinny, but enthusiastic in bed. Well, she was. No idea now...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PER23;2797557]Did a quick review on her. Took one look at her and decided she was a post-op TS and asked her to leave. Everything was off, from the demeanour to the look. Don't think she'll be on EP long. Frankly, "she" looks hideous. If you want the bimbo look without the why chromosome, there are plenty of escorts like that on all of the sites.[/QUOTE]Thank you, sorry I missed your original post. For some reason it wasn't coming up via search.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2797624]Thanks for all the info!
First, if EP let a post-op trans in, and without declaring it, that is dismaying in the extreme. But, when I saw that ad I thought "why does a young woman already look like a porno plastic surgery disaster?" Because you can see that much without looking at her face.
That is so sad about Maria. With the EP girls, I always wish for the good ones that they make whatever money they need and get out without any lasting issues. Condoms aren't great at stopping herpes or HPV, but they are something. And if she had begun offering BBFS on the regular, she should count herself lucky if it was just herpes.
About Mafalda Melo -- how were her teeth? I suspect she is Nicole Forte / Monica Melo.[/QUOTE]I had the misfortune of seeing Monica Melo. Mafalda is just weird and disinterested. Zero enthusiasm for the job, so you're not going to get anything alluring from her.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2797639]Thanks for the reviews! What stands out is that you wouldn't recommend the vast majority of the ladies you've seen. I'm sorry for your bad experiences or encountering ladies who didn't appeal physically. Must say I'm disappointed as I had thought EP was decent overall.
You've actually touched on a number of things that have been discussed in the last few months, in particular photoshopping and name changes.
I've seen Soraia Albuquerque and was as disappointed as you with her looks. I didn't send Soraia away but I've since wondered whether I would have the nerve to send a girl back if first impressions were bad (either photoshopping, they way they talk etc).[/QUOTE]No problem. Yep, I wouldn't recommend most of them, but there have been some standouts. It's a mixed bag as the agency overworks the girls from what I hear, takes 40% of the money and rotates new girls in constantly who are first timers.
I'm always quick to send a girl packing. Not to cause them any offence, the lame ones are pretty happy to make off with some money without doing much work, but I'm not going to force myself to enjoy something when the girl is reluctant or just plain weird. This is transactional already, no need for it to be stressful too. It's a gamble with EP. They offer convenience, not luxury.
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2797639]Thanks for the reviews! What stands out is that you wouldn't recommend the vast majority of the ladies you've seen. I'm sorry for your bad experiences or encountering ladies who didn't appeal physically. Must say I'm disappointed as I had thought EP was decent overall.
You've actually touched on a number of things that have been discussed in the last few months, in particular photoshopping and name changes.
I've seen Soraia Albuquerque and was as disappointed as you with her looks. I didn't send Soraia away but I've since wondered whether I would have the nerve to send a girl back if first impressions were bad (either photoshopping, they way they talk etc).[/QUOTE]PER23 was kind enough to tell us what he likes and dislikes in a girl and in a session. Someone with similar interests as him can get a lot of useful information from his posts.
There are a number of recommendations he makes. And several of the EP ladies who have been gettin excellent reviews such as Irina Melo, Aurora Alfaiate, Camila Pereira and Marcela Moniz are not on his list.
I don't think it is difficult for someone to find a recommended EP lady who he is interested in. We will never get around the fact that we all have different interests. Some guys want a 40 year old, some guys want an 18 year old. Some guys want a lady with some meat on her bones, other guys want a little gymnast. Some guys want a dom, other guys want a submissive.
As to whether EP has more misses from its general population than the independent world does, I am not so sure. There was an absolutely awful review of this lady on the big American review board from a very experienced reviewer. Apparently he didn't find ISG.
[URL]https://www.escortslisbon.pt/en/escorts/jade-bueno-hot-brunette-escort-lisbon[/URL]
Jade was described as ugly and CBJ only and he couldn't wait to get her out of the room. She didn't do any of the advertised services.
There are many recommended independents on this thread. But there are a lot of rip-off independents in Lisbon, also.
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Being realistic
I think the recent mass write-up of EP (thanks again) underscores a level of realism here. When we look at an agency like that or an ad-verified site like Portal Privado, approximately half the roster will be dogs. And by that, I mean poor performers that absolutely nobody would think highly of. They may even be stunners in the physical sense, but have crap attitudes that turn everyone off.
It doesn't even require major photo manipulation to make an ad look better. In most cases, it's merely a photographer using angles and a basic filter, with the actual photoshopping limited to removing tattoos or stretch marks. If you know how the infamous Myspace angles work, then you know what you are really looking at.
The other end of the spectrum are the ladies almost everyone agrees are worthwhile or great. Then come the workers in the middle. For example, when I wrote up Bela Soares just recently, I took care to point out what she was and what she was not. Just as with Soraia A. , some of you won't like her looks (in actual fact, she isn't really my type), although everyone should love her attitude. But some will find her perfect. On the local board, there is an EP veteran named Pureza Villar who enjoys a devoted following for similar reasons.
This is why I only try to break unknown territory when I have many opportunities to enjoy Lisbon's escort scene. Every new girl is a coin flip. This last time, I took the risk once, and it worked out OK. It hasn't always been that way. That said, discovering an unreported star is a real thrill.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2797916]I think the recent mass write-up of EP (thanks again) underscores a level of realism here. When we look at an agency like that or an ad-verified site like Portal Privado, approximately half the roster will be dogs. And by that, I mean poor performers that absolutely nobody would think highly of. They may even be stunners in the physical sense, but have crap attitudes that turn everyone off.
It doesn't even require major photo manipulation to make an ad look better. In most cases, it's merely a photographer using angles and a basic filter, with the actual photoshopping limited to removing tattoos or stretch marks. If you know how the infamous Myspace angles work, then you know what you are really looking at.
The other end of the spectrum are the ladies almost everyone agrees are worthwhile or great. Then come the workers in the middle. For example, when I wrote up Bela Soares just recently, I took care to point out what she was and what she was not. Just as with Soraia A. , some of you won't like her looks (in actual fact, she isn't really my type), although everyone should love her attitude. But some will find her perfect. On the local board, there is an EP veteran named Pureza Villar who enjoys a devoted following for similar reasons.
This is why I only try to break unknown territory when I have many opportunities to enjoy Lisbon's escort scene. Every new girl is a coin flip. This last time, I took the risk once, and it worked out OK. It hasn't always been that way. That said, discovering an unreported star is a real thrill.[/QUOTE]Completely agree with this. The scene here is pretty average in my opinion but there is a range on offer to suit every taste. EP was better in 2021 when the girls were mostly in their early to mid 20's and the photos weren't so heavily manipulated. The most attractive, enthusiastic new girls tend to get overworked and burn out quickly as they're usually part time and working low level jobs or studying, so a lot come and go pretty quickly. With the influx of tourists and expats it seems like the agency has way more girls on the roster and lower standards. If anyone was here last year and remembers girls like Rita Mendes, Anna Balthazar, Luana Paiva, Marta Lima and Amanda Real, they know what I mean.
I've stopped using the agency since the Mia debacle. Saw everyone I wanted to see.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2797794]Some guys want a 40 year old, some guys want an 18 year old.[/QUOTE]MILFs (or, let's say, over 30's) are not just a personal preference. It's something like the outcome of a scientific experiment: they're way better on all counts.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2798095]MILFs (or, let's say, over 30's) are not just a personal preference. It's something like the outcome of a scientific experiment: they're way better on all counts.[/QUOTE]Smuler made a wise observation when discussing Xesca, one of our favorites in Spain, who is certainly in the age range.
The very best ones stay around, even when they started doing this in their teens or twenties. They are damn good at it, they build up a loyal customer base, and they keep in shape and take pride in their work.
So you will indeed find a high percentage of the "MILFs" providing great service, especially if they have reviews going back many years. A girl can't fake being good at this for year after year, and she can't fake liking her job that long, either.
A certain percentage of much younger escorts are either learning the game, or dislike what they are doing and intentionally give poor service to Johns (in comparison to boyfriends their own age).
If a person is attracted to younger ladies, the difficult task is finding the gems. Reviews help, but the variances in customer opinions will always be significant.
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I saw Anna twice when she was with EP. She moved to Brasil, came back and resumed outcall escorting as an independent. When I finally caught up with her again. That experience gave me the belief she had burned out.
My favorite EP girl overall was Maria Gomes, who came back later as an outcall independent as Rita Gomes. She then went to OnlyFans. Given the timing of it all, I suspect her return was bound up in getting knocked up. And if not, she might have gotten knocked up by a client during the return. Again, I only wish the best for the good ladies when they get out; what is going on woth Maria / Rita looks sad.
The scene has its ups and downs. My own view going back a decade is that the photo-verified side (which is all that is worth talking about) has never been so deep. Independents, spas and EP. That said, the proportions remain about the same. As Mongerer pointed out, there were a handful (I think about 5?) EP active girls who have good reputations, but you didn't get to. Your own delving into their roster yielded a lot of lemons.
There are plenty of good workers in the Lisbon area. But it pays to do one's homework. If one is going to take a chance on an unknown, odds are about 50-50 to 2 in 3 that you'll get a lemon. But if some of us don't go there, we'll never find out anything new about the scene.
I agree about burn out. I expect it will be half a year before I am able to hit the scene in a major way again. My next visit will be so short I expect to have only a single opportunity, so I will absolutely spend it on someone I already know and is reliable. That excludes Flora, for example. While I liked her very much, who knows how she will be in four months? Even that span of time is a little risky. The incall ladies I know aren't going to burn out.
I don't know if EP has any actual standards. Ha!
[QUOTE=PER23;2798076]Completely agree with this. The scene here is pretty average in my opinion but there is a range on offer to suit every taste. EP was better in 2021 when the girls were mostly in their early to mid 20's and the photos weren't so heavily manipulated. The most attractive, enthusiastic new girls tend to get overworked and burn out quickly as they're usually part time and working low level jobs or studying, so a lot come and go pretty quickly. With the influx of tourists and expats it seems like the agency has way more girls on the roster and lower standards. If anyone was here last year and remembers girls like Rita Mendes, Anna Balthazar, Luana Paiva, Marta Lima and Amanda Real, they know what I mean.
I've stopped using the agency since the Mia debacle. Saw everyone I wanted to see.[/QUOTE]
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Afterthought
BTW folks, Maria Gomes and Anna Balthazar were both ladies I called before they had any reviews, so they were plunges into the dark. Maria is my #1 and Anna my #3 all-time EP experience. Just to make the point that sometime you roll the dice and come up with gold, and it's exciting when that happens.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2798122]
The very best ones stay around, even when they started doing this in their teens or twenties. They are damn good at it, they build up a loyal customer base, and they keep in shape and take pride in their work. So you will indeed find a high percentage of the "MILFs" providing great service, especially if they have reviews going back many years. A girl can't fake being good at this for year after year, and she can't fake liking her job that long, either..[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have said it better.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2798122]Smuler made a wise observation when discussing Xesca, one of our favorites in Spain, who is certainly in the age range.[/QUOTE]She can give classes on the perfect session. My all time favorite.
Best Regards.
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A lesson
I recently tripped over an ad for an ex EP girl, Tita Ipanema, on one of the not-so-reliable sites (so I won't mention which one). Tita was a friend and duo colleague of Rafaela de Sa, a gorgeous EP girl whose only drawback, IMO, was that she only did oral with a cover. I never met Tita, and Rafaela left the scene before I could enlist them both. Tita was never reviewed to my knowledge.
So now she is advertising as an independent, and it is her and not a catfish. But she isn't bothering with a major, reliable ad site. She also wants 200/ hour, when other ex-EP, outcall only girls continue to ask for 150 or (Carolina Belmont) 170. And that is keeping in mind none of them are splitting with the agency, so 150 itself is a substantial increase in gross revenue.
It screams bad actor at me. She isn't serious about finding clients. She is charging way too much. That is what I see when I add it all up.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2799556]I recently tripped over an ad for an ex EP girl, Tita Ipanema, on one of the not-so-reliable sites (so I won't mention which one). Tita was a friend and duo colleague of Rafaela de Sa, a gorgeous EP girl whose only drawback, IMO, was that she only did oral with a cover. I never met Tita, and Rafaela left the scene before I could enlist them both. Tita was never reviewed to my knowledge.
So now she is advertising as an independent, and it is her and not a catfish. But she isn't bothering with a major, reliable ad site. She also wants 200/ hour, when other ex-EP, outcall only girls continue to ask for 150 or (Carolina Belmont) 170. And that is keeping in mind none of them are splitting with the agency, so 150 itself is a substantial increase in gross revenue.
It screams bad actor at me. She isn't serious about finding clients. She is charging way too much. That is what I see when I add it all up.[/QUOTE]Don't ask me how I know (one of the girls told me) but she got fired from EP for stealing from a client who fell asleep during an overnight booking and refusing to pay the agency their cut by pretending the client changed his mind and told her to leave early. Would avoid at all costs.
Saw Rafaela when she was around and thought she was rubbish. Pleasant but beyond jaded at that point. It was some time in summer 2021.
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Tita: I love that the story is they got rid of her for not cutting them in on robbing a client. Typical. But I can't say I'm surprised. As I wrote, the warning flags are flapping in the wind on her indie ad, if you can read them.
Rafaela: Burn out is very much a thing for EP girls, as is YMMV. She had a good rep on the local board for a while. It's for the best that she got out around the same time, then. She packed it in back in late 2021, if I recall.
[QUOTE=PER23;2799698]Don't ask me how I know (one of the girls told me) but she got fired from EP for stealing from a client who fell asleep during an overnight booking and refusing to pay the agency their cut by pretending the client changed his mind and told her to leave early. Would avoid at all costs.
Saw Rafaela when she was around and thought she was rubbish. Pleasant but beyond jaded at that point. It was some time in summer 2021.[/QUOTE]
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Hi,
First I want to say thanks to everyone who shared their reviews. They were very helpful when I was planning who to see (and who not to see) during my sexation.
But without further ado, here are my opinions about the girls I've met with:
Debora Dias.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]
Score 8/10.
Appearance: beautiful face, but her teeth could be better. Her body is amazing, I couldn't believe my eyes when she took off her dress to take a shower. She looks to be in mid 20's or younger and she's definitely not TS. She is nicely shaved and her skin is soft in touch.
There are some tattoos, scars and other skin defects on her body, but all in all she looks similar to her photos, I would even say she looks a bit younger irl.
Action: Kissing wasn't good for my taste, so I quickly stopped trying. There either is a vibe for that or not.
Her BJ was very wet, she helped herself with hand. She did some DT. Honestly I'm not into receiving oral, so my review may not be very accurate, but I think she does well in this matter.
Sex was good, either she enjoyed it herself or she knew how to act. I only managed to do cowgirl and doggy before finishing for the first time.
I'm not into anal, so I didn't try it, but her ass looks amazing.
She responded very well during cunnilingus, or once again, she's a skilled actress, but I enjoyed licking her fat lips pussy.
Atmosphere: I would say she's a lively, positive person. She laughed a lot, did some stupid seductive shit etc.
She speaks basic English, so don't expect deep conversations with her.
I'm a quiet guy (both in bed and during conversation) and she wasn't bothered with that at all. She even said she likes it.
Additional info: She took a shower before and after each time.
The Meeting lasted a full hour.
Price 150/ h.
Overall I recommend her. I'm giving 8 mostly because of her inability to build a conversation, but I'm guessing it was because of her poor English.
Catia Bom.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/catia-bom/431511[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catia-bom-6582[/URL]
Score 6/10.
Appearance: Her face Is the best part. It looks young, reminds me a lot of Jenna Ortega (from the second season of "You".
She said she has new boobs, so I couldn't see or touch them, but they looked proportional to her body. But below them everything looked at least 5 years older. She had some scars on her stomach and also a piercing in belly. She is small and her whole body is covered in little hair. She also wasn't shaved down under. Materials from Apartadox or EGE are heavily photoshopped.
Action: She was an aggressive kisser. I personally didn't enjoy it, because for me it is more about passion which wasn't there, but I didn't stop her.
She did CBJ, but it was very shallow and she used a lot of hand.
Sex was good, we tried a few positions. First it was cowgirl and she felt a bit tight, but later it was ok. I could see she was naturally getting wet, however she touched herself a lot so most likely it was that.
Once again, I didn't try anal so I can't say anything.
I tried licking her, but I didn't really like it (nothing wrong with her smell or anything like that).
Atmosphere: Her English is not the best too, but she started meeting form a little conversation and continued it during the break, so I think there is potential if one speaks a language she is more fluent in.
I liked her character and I think this was the highlight of this meeting.
Additional info: She didn't take a shower at the start. After sex she only freshened down under.
Meeting lasted a full hour.
After 18:00 she charges a taxi / Uber fee. (nothing crazy, in my case it was around 10).
She forgot to bring the toys*that I asked for.
Price 150/ h.
Overall she's not my type. Her body looks to worn out, her kissing and BJ felt bad, but if someone wants to fuck Wednesday lookalike go for her.
Evah. Allure studio.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/evah/[/URL]
Score 9,5/10.
Accommodation: The studio is in the office building and it looks a little bit old. In the room there's a shower, AC (which is tight above the bed) and mirror on the side.
Appearance: Eva is the best looking girl I've seen in Lisbon. I would say she is around 30 year old, she has a very soft skin with a nice tan. There are no visible skin defects. She has a piercing in belly, but I could hardly feel it during massage and she has an extensive tattoos on her legs.
She keeps herself in good shape. She has an amazing pair of boobs, her pussy looks very nice and the only thing that could be better is her ass, because it is a bit flat.
Action: I chose Allure massage, so we started with a shower together. She straight up said I can touch her from the neck down, so I helped myself to grab her tits.
Then we moved to the massage and I must say it was the best one I received so far. She doesn't use her breasts in b2 be massage much, but she often uses her legs very nicely, which was a first time for me. She starts with head massage, then proceeds to massage back, legs, feet, arms, hands and front.
The ending was very good too. It involved elements of prostate massage, boobjob and of course handjob with different movements and changing pace.
Atmosphere: It all felt very formal. She didn't try any conversation during the massage, I'm guessing it's because she likes to stay focused on procedure.
In the room some playlist was playing and it must be a public one from Spotify, because I can swear I heard it in a totally different saloon.
We talked a little after the massage and she seemed very nice. Her English is a bit lacking, but at least she sounds confident using it.
Additional info: it went for a full 90 minutes and I was offered something to drink.
Price 200/1,5 h.
Overall: I strongly recommend her for massage lovers and for people who enjoy gorgeous bodies. I'm taking half a point down only because there was no vibe between us.
Olivia Sampaio.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/olivia-sampaio/[/URL]
Score 4/10.
Appearance: I was tempted to call Olivia because of her beautiful face on WA pic (and because some other girls form EP were unavailable) and it was the best part of her. Just looking at her face I would give her 26 year old, but after unpacking it Goes up to at least 30. She doesn't look bad, there are some stretch marks and few other skin issues, but overall her body just doesn't look young.
Action: The kissing was terrible. I didn't focus on the technique, I was immediately thrown off by the fact that she smokes and she must have taken one right before going up to my room. She could have at least had some gum before.
She does a nice BBBJ with BLS.
In sex you can see she's experienced, she took initiative, did some less common positions, but she was too loose for me and I knew I wasn't going to cum inside, so I finished on her body.
Atmosphere: She pushed the meeting time up twice, in total by an hour, but ended up being just 15 minutes before the initial time due to bad traffic.
She is a musical person, by that I mean she did singsong a lot and even asked me to put some music up.
Her English was decent. I could see having a nice conversation with her, but I was too annoyed by things to try.
Additional info: She freshened up a little at the start and took a shower at the end.
After the first time, which lasted around 30 minutes, she started packing herself. I didn't stop her, because I knew it wouldn't get better the second time.
Price 150/ h.
Overall she is not worth it. Maybe if she offered 30 min meetings for a lower price then I could recommend trying her out, because like I said, she doesn't look bad, she's just older.
There are some other things that bothered me, but I don't want to talk about them. That's why the score is so low, if there were none I would most likely give her 6.
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Thanks for the reviews, in particular Debora Dias and Catia Bom who were both on my list when I next make it to Lisbon. Good to hear that Debora is the real deal.
Re Catia Bom, I'd be really annoyed if I booked an escort and she said her boobs were totally off the menu. In my opinion, having at least some access to an escort's boobs is an implied part of the service offering. Some men go just for boobs, although I'm not in that category. Reminds me of when I saw Soraia Albuquerque and she severely restricted access to her boobs by stating "they're sensitive just like men are sensitive down below"; well firstly I'm not the one meant to be providing a service and secondly, given how much she flaunts her boobs in her profile pictures, it was almost tantamount to breach of contract (I had tried to touch them and kiss them very gently before anything thinks it was due to rough handling).
I shall give Catia a miss but very much have Debora on my list.
[QUOTE=Introwert;2800052]Hi,
Catia Bom.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/catia-bom/431511[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catia-bom-6582[/URL]
Score 6/10.
She said she has new boobs, so I couldn't see or touch them, but they looked proportional to her body. .[/QUOTE]
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My pre-trip research
I've read the last 50 pages of the this forum and I am preparing for my trip to Lisbon soon. I always post very detailed reviews. Feel free to search my prior reviews. Just did one for Mexico City, for example.
My favorite sessions are with natural slim girls with no silicone. Large natural breasts are great, but small naturals are fine too. I don't like tattoos. I love the gentle GFE experience with lots of DFK, DATY, BBBJ, and CFS. Anal or CIM is not necessary, but a plus. Finding a star performer who loves anal might be fun for a change of pace (even one who is not GFE). I much prefer 18-20 year old college students who speak English, but I have plenty of experience using Google translate. A session with CBJ, covered BJ, and no English means no real connection or GFE feeling, so I much prefer the real full GFE with minimal language barrier and natural body.
I've created lists of girls with good reviews, no reviews, and bad reviews from the last 50 pages. The comments are NOT MINE, they are compilations edited for the juiciest details.
Based on my reading, the girl on the very top of my list is Flora Neves. She seems to embody everything I love in a beautiful young woman with good service and good English. Next on my list is Camila Pereira.
Which of these other girls do you think I should consider? Have you heard anything about the "unreviewed" girls?
Mostly, I've been studying Escort Privada. When I get the time, I'll sift through what is available on ApartadoX next.
A star next to a girl's name means lots of good reviews.
Girls with Mostly Good Reviews:
**Soraia Albuquerque.
Younger, some English, mixed reviews.
I'll guess is about 120 ish and her age about 22. She was my favorite session in Lisbon. She has a nice slim waist and incredible natural tits with nipples that get solidly hard when getting fucked in some positions. Especially in doggy. Dang we did a lot of fucking her and I in many different positions. She was very compliant and never complained. When I finished she giggled and said "it's so hot" meaning she could feel it even in the condom. Really enjoyed her personality as well. Her English not as great as some but plenty good to have decent conversation. She's also a university student. She must be better now. I was one of her earliest clients and apart from the great tits, I was pretty disappointed when I saw her looks.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
**Aurora Alfaiate 23 yo.
Younger, English, excellent reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
*Carolina Belmont.
English.
Carolina is apparently the lady you want for a beautiful face. Breasts are enhanced, but reportedly well done. She gets nothing but perfect reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...mont-6095.html[/URL]
Tati Bernardi. 23 yo, English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Tati-Bernardi-3753[/URL]
**Catia Bom.
Young girl probably 20, does all services advertised, cute with a few birth marks but all in all I would say she wants to please so 8/10.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Catia-Bom-6582[/URL]
*Eva Branco 18 yo.
Younger, English.
Seen her twice and she's very submissive and gives a great no hands BJ, but she's just not that attractive overall. Her personality makes up for it a lot. Great tits and a chunky body. Saw her in December when she started.
Eva is still in that state of dazzle of who is a new girl, it started a little while ago and she wants to please. This combined with a genuine pleasure she has for sex and intimacy makes for an explosive mix. Her face is beautiful, her body is young, 100% natural and fabulous. Maybe it was the best experience I've ever had with a GP.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/[/URL]
*Marta Castro.
Contrary to most reviewers, I don't get the hype. She has a pretty face and is attractive with the clothes on but very arrogant and overfamiliar with her conversation, and her body is absolutely busted from pregnancy with stretch marks everywhere. Good looking girl, pretty face, nice body. Perhaps 1 or 2 extra pounds around the middle but who doesn't. Advertises as 19, but probably early to mid 20's. Quite chatty in the room and made it clear that everything was on the table. Started out with an exceptionally good BJ uncovered. When we moved to the main event, started with her on all fours, transferred to missionary and back to all 4's. I'm not usually too fussed about anal, but when in Portugal. Finished in her ass. The girl can take some stroke. No complaints ever.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marta-castro/[/URL]
Luna Cardoso.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1409[/URL]
*Debora Dias 21 yr old.
Cape Verdean and fucks with energy and passion (like a young Brasilera). A nice firm tight ass and very round just how I like them. She smells good, does oral without condom, no rushing, no complaining and does her job with passion and conviction. Her rate is $150/ HR, A-Level service if you ask but will run you an extra $50. Oral is good, she rides good.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/debora-dias/[/URL]
Valeria Diaz. 31 yo English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/valeria-diaz/[/URL]
Isabella Fiorentini 27 yo.
Very GFE and beautiful body and face, big kisser and gives an amazing blowjob and she does anal sex:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhan...tini-6268.html[/URL]
Amalia Leal.
Cute little Brazilian. Skinnier than she looks in the photos. Very new and very enthusiastic. Says she's 24 and has been in Portugal for 3 months.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-amalia-leal-7515[/URL]
Andreia Martins. 18 yo.
NO ENGLISH.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/andreia-martins/[/URL]
*Irina Melo.
Good English.
The reviewer confirmed her young age, late teens to early 20's and the tall, slim build just as reflected in the pictures. BBBJ, CIM, LFK, FIV, anal play (but no anal sex) and Golden Shower. Her English was good but not quite perfect. She did multiple pops in his long session with her and there were no complaints about her attitude. An 8 out of 10.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/irina-melo/[/URL]
*Marcela Moniz.
She is a tiny thing, standing at just around five feet, I estimate. Facially her looks may not be to everyone's liking; not a classical beauty. Certainly more of an alternative look, with her cropped hair, charmingly gapped teeth and a smattering of tattoos. Think of her as your girlfriend from Williamsburg, pre-gentrification. She does not speak any English, but will cheerfully use Google translate and body language to make a point. No real problems there, despite the lack of language. Her body is a taut, tight, little thing. She does capoeira and dance, and it shows. Tight all over with muscles underneath a layer of baby fat. Her age of 18 sounds right, or she must be not far off it. Into the room and she goes straight into a DFK clinch. Excellent DFK, I give it a 9/10. After plenty of that, she dives into OWO, which was above average, give it a 7/10. She is very amenable to being picked up, which I did, and pressed against the wall while being mercilessly DFKed. She also seems to genuinely love a good spanking. Each spank elicits a yelp of pain and pleasure and whimpers as she anticipates the next one. Whenever I stopped, she would grab my hand and slap it against her ass. She wanted more spanking. She is very tight and quite shallow but did not complain about taking a pounding. She is also quite orgasmic and responded quite well to a deep tonguing. Oh yes, I forgot to mention I paid an extra 30 euros for rimming, given how good her DFK was. The rimming was probably a 8 or 9/10. Long, slow and sensual. She certainly knows her way around some of the escort's darker arts.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/marcela-moniz/[/URL]
Joana Montenegro 30 ish.
English.
Very enchanting, charismatic lady. Only seen her once and she's got a great body. Probably 30 years old. She's good at role playing intimacy but she doesn't really get into the sex. Joana Montenegro I think is about 30 years old and maybe 137 or 138 pounds and not so tall like the pics so she's also a somewhat thicker girl with sturdy legs and not so thin in the waist. The only pic that really resembles her is the one with big hanging tits except the nipples aren't popping like that anymore. Made me think those might be her actual pics from many years ago. Her face looks younger than her body though. Oh and her ass is still fine like the pics so I enjoy rubbing my lumber on that firm tight butt. Joana also has an awesome personality. She comes across as a very intelligent and mature lady. She has another professional line of work so this is a sideline for her. But she is dedicated and also took time to help me get an appointment with another EP girl that wasn't replying. Also speaks near perfect English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
**Kelly Morais 27 yo.
Perfect English.
Her photos may be a bit old, but she has a great body if you're into curves. She also is insanely talented when it comes to BBBJ, wow. Will repeat, especially for a quick go at 80 for an unrushed 30 min.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]
Vanessa Morais 23 yo, English.
Saw her in 2021 when she first worked with EP. Pretty face and quite skinny, but enthusiastic in bed. Well, she was. No idea now.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-vanessa-morais-2748[/URL]
*Flora Neves 19 yo.
Flora is a genuine 19 year old student, studying cinema studies. Very tall at nearly six feet. She is no great beauty. She is crowned with flowing curly brunette locks. Her DFK was excellent, OWO was enthusiastic and prolonged, The sex was great as she is very tight and seemed to really enjoy it. I brought her to orgasm with tongue and penetration, so she is also quite orgasmic, which is something I always look for with escorts that I enjoy. High levels of service and willing to please.
She is a cute girl, and a sweetheart in bed. The CIM finish was one for the books. Well reviewed on here recently and I can concur with these. I find her very attractive and her body is amazing. Sweet, slightly reserved personality but she really opens up and isn't mechanical.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
*Camila Pereira 19 yo.
Younger, English, excellent reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/camila-pereira/[/URL]
Ines Portuguesa. Early 30's.
Lots of good reviews and very attractive.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
*Maju Rossi.
Lots of 9/10 reviews, great kissing, major performance She has three pages of reviews, with almost all of the reviews being 9's and 10's out of 10. She is reviewed as very GFE, with BBBJ obviously. Multiple pops in the session and a great attitude (although based on Whatapp conversations the English appears to be quite limited). And her incall is described as upscale. Her latest reviews are 150 euros for an hour of incall.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Maju-Rossi-6890[/URL]
**Adriana Santos, about 25.
Perfect English.
Looks like a typical Eastern European low level IG model type. She wouldn't be my first choice but she's a nice girl and her body is curvy but not flabby. Great BJ. A guy that likes thick and firm but not fat girls would love her look. She speaks perfect English and has a super personality. I really enjoyed talking with her about many different things. This is her full time gig and her comfort level shows. More importantly her oral skills are amazing. I mean really amazing. That was important to me because I can't enjoy banging thick girls. She started with a touching and tickling routine that evolved into a full 20 to 25 minutes of great oral. She was tireless. And she took me to completion that way.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/adriana-santos/[/URL]
Bia Santos.
No english, great anal.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Acompanhante-de-Luxo-Bia-Santos-5091[/URL]
Victoria Saraiva.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
**Bela Soares.
Bela is about 20 with dark hair and a nice face, but nothing that would turn your head on the street. She doesn't do anal or FIV, but her OWO is sans hands, all mouth, and good; good DFK; basically, GFE with the girlfriend who likes to fuck.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/[/URL]
*Sara Valente.
Perfect English, early 30's.
Sara's BBBJTCIM is spectacular. She is fun to hang out with. She likes tourists and she is extremely sexual. Was hotter in 2021. She lost a ton of weight and the tis are gone. Brilliant personality and enthusiasm, though. Hygiene is poor. She won't shower before or after, even though she shows up well dressed etc. Sara Valente I mention her a lot because she is fun, friendly, genuinely nice, and gives a spectacular BBBJTCIM. Gets great reviews on kissing.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
Margarida Vaz.
Reviews have gotten better so I won't knock her too much, but I was one of her first clients and she was a plank of wood. Absolutely terrified of the job at the time, so I sent her away early. Nice girl, but not nearly as attractive as some reviewers have mentioned. To me, she's much heavier than the photos suggest and although her face is pretty, she's just a cute, plain girl you wouldn't notice on the street. Margarida Vaz 18 yo, very pretty and young. College girlfriend, but multiple mixed reviews.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/margarida-vaz/[/URL]
Francisca Vilar 19 yo.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-vilar/[/URL]
Girls with good reviews but no recent working links:
Anna Balthazar.
The last time I saw Anna was November 2020. She is a hippie girl of Ukrainian extraction, brought up in Portugal. She is in her late 20's and is a mother (it showed), but beautiful, was all natural at the time (still looks that way to me), and offered a wonderful GFE experience. She remains in my Top 5 Lisbon courtesans ever.
Karla Ferraz.
Yola Lopes.
Nicole Sousa.
She's gone now but was easily one of the best girls last year. Around 25 years old and actually a semi-famous IG influencer from Benfica. Sexy looks and did everything with enthusiasm.
Ella Secret.
Penelope Garcia.
Maria Gomes (Rita Gomes).
Vivianne Miller.
She was on the site briefly last year, was hardly available and is gone now. Maybe she'll be back. Bombshell 19 year old Brazilian with the best body I've seen on an escort. Had a brilliant time.
Rebeca Deniz 10/10 reviews.
Beatriz Martins. 26 yo.
Got her first review on the local board from a guy with several reviews, and it was an excellent 9 out of 10, which confirmed that BBBJ and CIM is available.
Luana Paiva.
Girls that are appealing but no reviews:
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/jessica-medeiros/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/rita-barros/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/alexandra-mendes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/nuria-gomes/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/filipa-marques/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/pureza-vilar/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/teresa-torres/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/carlota-martins/[/URL]
Girls to Avoid:
Sofia Andrade.
Giovana Bragana.
Jade Bueno.
Rita Campos.
Vanessa Figueriredo.
Barbara Gouveia.
Monica Vera Guerra.
Tita Impanema.
Frederica Lima.
Lara Lima.
Samanta Lima.
Monica Melo.
Mafalda Melo.
Julia Nobrega.
Debora Pires.
Diana Real.
Matilde Ribeiro.
Anita Rocha.
Catarina Rodriguez.
Rafeala de Sa.
Olivia Sampaio.
Eva Santos.
Angelica Silva.
Iris Simoes.
Tatiana Souza.
Mia Tavares.
Mia Verissimo.
Catarina Rodriguez bad breath.
Maria Conceicao herpes.
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Speaking from personal experience, I think you should prioritize Flora Neves as planned. She puts a half or full checkmark on every point of your list.
Carolina Belmont is also a very solid choice. Comparing her to Flora, she is all-around hotter, but the experience with her is more professional (and thus, less authentic). She is very good, but Flora has a certain lack of polish that grounds things with her nicely.
Catia Bom just recently got a poor review right here. Anna Balthazar and Maria Gomes aren't active, so I wouldn't bother trying to look for them.
Of the other names on the list, Ella Secret (her ad is on Apartadox) got a few strong reviews on the local board.
As for the others on your list, I doubt there is anything to add that you didn't see digging through the thread here.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2801097]Speaking from personal experience, I think you should prioritize Flora Neves as planned. She puts a half or full checkmark on every point of your list.
Carolina Belmont is also a very solid choice. Comparing her to Flora, she is all-around hotter, but the experience with her is more professional (and thus, less authentic). She is very good, but Flora has a certain lack of polish that grounds things with her nicely.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the feedback. The only problem with Carolina Belmont is that she has silicone, which I like to avoid if possible. Always looking for the elusive 19 yo with natural tits and no tattoos and the sweetheart college girlfriend vibe. Glad to hear I am barking up the right tree with Flora. She'll be my first WhatsApp message when my plane lands.
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I understand. The 18 to 23, slender with a good rack, all natural and a willing attitude category is a thin one.
Your next best known bet down this path is Soraia Alberquerque. Opinions about her are divided, and even I'll tell you she is a clear second on facial looks and attitude to Flora Neves.
I'm sure you saw Irina Melo gets high marks. Her breasts aren't large, but she checks all your other boxes. I suppose that begs the question of if your aversion to implants outweighs wanting a big rack altogether.
And keeping that list of qualifications in mind, if you have the time you may very well want to roll the dice on an unknown. Avoid the Freitas girls; they are the Simoes girls with new names. Filipa Marques might fit your bill.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/filipa-marques/[/URL]
I honestly think Flora Neves is the only girl who checkmarks all your boxes. You can add Irina Melo and / or Carolina Belmont if you trade on the size or natural boobs checkboxes. The others are debatable (or worse) when it comes to performance. The only real way to expand the list is to expand the age range.
Under circumstances like that, it would be pretty golden to find one more. But again, if it were me, I would only do this if I had the time. Like if I were arranging four liaisons, I might roll the dice on one.
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2801116]Thanks for the feedback. The only problem with Carolina Belmont is that she has silicone, which I like to avoid if possible. Always looking for the elusive 19 yo with natural tits and no tattoos and the sweetheart college girlfriend vibe. Glad to hear I am barking up the right tree with Flora. She'll be my first WhatsApp message when my plane lands.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the suggestions! I just added those girls to my list.
Here is my refined "to do" list, in order:
Flora Neves.
Camila Pereira.
Margarida Vaz.
Eva Branco.
Marta Castro.
Irina Melo.
Luna Cardoso.
Aurora Alfaiate.
Catia Bom.
Marcela Moniz (for her rimming expertise).
Soraia Albuquerque.
I am a bit concerned about Marta Castro, since her earlier reviews were spectacular, but the newest ones sounds like a totally different girl, older with bad stretch marks. I was also a bit concerned about Soraia Albuquerque, since her reviews were so mixed.
Here is list of ApartadoX girls that I thought would be worth "taking a chance", since I couldn't find any reviews for these girls but they seem to check my boxes. The local board (gp-pt) doesn't seem to have a search function (correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to search that site rather than scroll and scan for names), so I may have missed a review.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-gaby-fontes-7526[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catarina-fortes-5246[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-iris-furtado-5963[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-duda-lopes-4546[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-isabela-zaz-7665[/URL]
Anybody that I am missing? Any superstar anal provider (doesn't have to be a 19 yo) from EP or ApartadoX that I should put on my list?
I have a whole week, and I'the like to have at least one appointment per day.
Really appreciate the help! This thread has a good reputation for being helpful, unlike some threads on ISG.
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Great choice
Amazing list you have shared bro, if you take a chance with Duda lopes, do share the report. All of the selection looks lovely, Duda most tempting.
Will look forward to your Report.
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[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catarina-fortes-5246[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-iris-furtado-5963[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-duda-lopes-4546[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-isabela-zaz-7665[/URL]
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Agreed. The pictures of Duda Lopes give me heart pains they are so hot. I will, of course, submit a review on whomever I see. Won't be there for at least a month. Just getting my battle plan together. Still on the lookout for a real anal superstar to add to the list.
[QUOTE=UCantcMeBro;2801326]Amazing list you have shared bro, if you take a chance with Duda lopes, do share the report. All of the selection looks lovely, Duda most tempting.
Will look forward to your Report.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-gaby-fontes-7526[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catarina-fortes-5246[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-iris-furtado-5963[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-duda-lopes-4546[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-isabela-zaz-7665[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Lord, there are so many ad-verified, but otherwise unreported incall escorts working in Lisbon right now. Well, that is a can of worms I don't want to open.
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Like I said Catia Bom. Was just written up this past week on this thread, and she got panned.
Marta Castro and Eva Branco have both gotten very strong reviews, but they have also been criticized for being thicker than the photos suggest. I think that might just be idiocy at work, since you can see they are quite curvy. But, it's worth mentioning.
I've already pointed out how Soraia has a mixed reputation. My own experience with her was a 7 out of 10. She is willing, but passive in the sack -- the type who gleefully follows your lead, but never takes it. I did not have the problem of her not wanting me to handle her breasts as some have complained about, so I suspect they were too rough. Her face is just one step better than plain, but below the neck she is spectacular.
Margarida Vaz has this thing where her main selling point is most commenters think she is gorgeous, but just about everyone says she is an average or mediocre performer.
I have read Camilla Pereira tastes / smells like a smoker, which is why I was never interested. I can't stand that anymore.
Aurora has a sound rep. I just thought she was older than you wanted.
The one thing about Luna is I think she charges a bit too much for incall. I mean, you can have Irina Melo come to your room for less.
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2801323]Thanks for the suggestions! I just added those girls to my list.
Here is my refined "to do" list, in order:
Flora Neves.
Camila Pereira.
Margarida Vaz.
Eva Branco.
Marta Castro.
Irina Melo.
Luna Cardoso.
Aurora Alfaiate.
Catia Bom.
Marcela Moniz (for her rimming expertise).
Soraia Albuquerque.
I am a bit concerned about Marta Castro, since her earlier reviews were spectacular, but the newest ones sounds like a totally different girl, older with bad stretch marks. I was also a bit concerned about Soraia Albuquerque, since her reviews were so mixed.
Here is list of ApartadoX girls that I thought would be worth "taking a chance", since I couldn't find any reviews for these girls but they seem to check my boxes. The local board (gp-pt) doesn't seem to have a search function (correct me if I'm wrong. I would love to search that site rather than scroll and scan for names), so I may have missed a review.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-gaby-fontes-7526[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-catarina-fortes-5246[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-iris-furtado-5963[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-duda-lopes-4546[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-isabela-zaz-7665[/URL]
Anybody that I am missing? Any superstar anal provider (doesn't have to be a 19 yo) from EP or ApartadoX that I should put on my list?
I have a whole week, and I'the like to have at least one appointment per day.
Really appreciate the help! This thread has a good reputation for being helpful, unlike some threads on ISG.[/QUOTE]
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More recommendations?
Anyone else I would speak of that is anywhere near your stated wants would be based in Cascais. I don't know how you feel about making a day trip out to the beachy suburb -- most folks who come here are interested in central Lisbon only.
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There may be some beautiful (or not so beautiful) ladies in EP, they may (or may not) offer good intimate moments, but, as time goes by, I am more and more convinced that we should look for really, really good experiences elsewhere.
So I will mention again:
Bia Santos [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/massagista-bia-santos-5091[/URL] + [URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1179-ana-santos-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL] + [URL]https://siterealezas.com/model/ana-santos-lisboa/[/URL].
Inês [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL].
Bella Azevedo [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-bella-azevedo-7142[/URL].
Gabriela Sanchez [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-gabriela-sanchez-4468[/URL].
Myara [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-myara-4943[/URL].
Mónica [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/[/URL].
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Few more reports and comments
Decided to jump back in with a couple of EP girls:
Marcella Moniz. Decent. Cute, you wouldn't notice her on the street at all. Her new profile on Apartadox is up to date in terms of her look and she's growing out the militant hairdo. Body is muscular and petite at the same time. Very much like a gymnast. Eager to please and sweet, but her pussy is really tight and, just going to be honest, you can only give her a few inches of dick. Enthusiasm is great but for me, the physical side of it didn't click.
Debora Dias. Very beautiful, with an amazing ass and legs. Speaks enough English to take an instruction and exchange pleasantries. Again, for me, the sex was lame. Didn't think her BJ technique was up to par at all and my mind started wandering. Sent her away after 45 minutes. She was by no means rude and was eager to please, but if I'm not going to enjoy it, I usually send the lady on her way.
Might be cynicism creeping in now as I swore I was done with EP and the ladies out here. After seeing so many, the fantasy aspect doesn't really work anymore unless all the pieces fit together. There's a variety of looks on offer out here, but some of these girls don't have any technique. Everyone out here seems to be watching videos on giving a toothy DT before they start the job. The ones who are pros in the best sense are the older ones and are going to be less attractive on average. All of the hotter, young ones tend to be quite average. Flora is an exception to this for now, and hopefully stays that way as she only works 1-2 days per week. I'm generalising, of course, from a slightly jaded perspective after two years here. Think I've seen around 20 of the current EP roster so if you want a one off encounter, most of these girls will deliver. If you're not the horny tourist type, diminishing returns kicks in fast.
I have one lady (ex-EP) that I see privately and will stick to that. She ticks the boxes.
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Again, I stuck to the brief: college-age girls (18 to 23); slender with a good rack, preferably natural; good GFE; in Lisbon. If they are in Cascais, older, have a different body type or are known for PSE, I didn't go there.
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You guys are so helpful! Really appreciate it. Bia Santos doesn't speak English, but got rave reviews for anal, so I may add her to my list for that specific skill set.
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It's great when you can make that transition. My last instance of being on the short list of a semi-retired lady. She was a very well-regarded incall lady and Portuguese, and it was the pandemic that prompted her to get out. She continued to see me outcall for 2 1/2 years after that.
[QUOTE=PER23;2801510]I have one lady (ex-EP) that I see privately and will stick to that. She ticks the boxes.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2801663]It's great when you can make that transition. My last instance of being on the short list of a semi-retired lady. She was a very well-regarded incall lady and Portuguese, and it was the pandemic that prompted her to get out. She continued to see me outcall for 2 1/2 years after that.[/QUOTE]Yep. Nothing long term in it but the sex is excellent so couldn't pass it up. EP is like Uber Eats, a bunch of average looking junk with the occasional high end dish.
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April return
Hello everyone and thanks for keeping this forum updated. Very helpful for those visiting. I'm planning to return in April for a long weekend and was excited to revisit my favourites from last year but it seems like they haven't been getting the best reviews. I was wondering if anyone's had the pleasure of booking any of the following ladies from Apartado?
If anyone would be so kind to share their reviews that would be appreciated. I tried searching their names but struggling to navigate.
Luna Moyses.
Isabela Zaz.
Duda Lopes.
Yohaine.
Anabela Reis (Failed to show up to a previous booking and sent me her onlyfans instead but wondering if worth trying to book again).
P.S. : I've seen a few people recommend the EP platform, my guess is that they were luckier than I was with it. I gave up after 2 bait and switches and thought this was a scam website but maybe I just got unlucky. One of the times the lady that was at the apartment instead of the one I booked was Yasmim L from apartado. So I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks again and all the best.
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Duda got a review on the local board. If memory serves, the guy gave her a 7 out of 10. She seemed pretty cooperative and willing, and reading between the lines I took his gripe to be he wanted PSE and got GFE.
EP is very hit or miss. And depending on how picky you are about looks, it can be mostly miss. My view on it is that almost all the Portuguese girls under 30 who do eacorting want to be part-timers, so they do EP. The typical incall lady is Brasilian and in her 30s. So, if you insist on young and European, usually it means figuring out what EP girls to avoid.
But in terms of it being a scam, I'd say the odds there are equal to doing an incall lady. Anyone unreported on is a roll of the dice to a large degree.
[QUOTE=YouFlat;2801789]Hello everyone and thanks for keeping this forum updated. Very helpful for those visiting. I'm planning to return in April for a long weekend and was excited to revisit my favourites from last year but it seems like they haven't been getting the best reviews. I was wondering if anyone's had the pleasure of booking any of the following ladies from Apartado?
If anyone would be so kind to share their reviews that would be appreciated. I tried searching their names but struggling to navigate.
Luna Moyses.
Isabela Zaz.
Duda Lopes.
Yohaine.
Anabela Reis (Failed to show up to a previous booking and sent me her onlyfans instead but wondering if worth trying to book again).
P.S. : I've seen a few people recommend the EP platform, my guess is that they were luckier than I was with it. I gave up after 2 bait and switches and thought this was a scam website but maybe I just got unlucky. One of the times the lady that was at the apartment instead of the one I booked was Yasmim L from apartado. So I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks again and all the best.[/QUOTE]
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Correction.
Thanks for that. I am terrible sorry guys the website with the fake accounts isn't EP. I didn't know how to edit or delete my last post.
The website that fooled me twice with bait and switches was mulheresvip.
Again apologies for the mixup. I only just realised when I came back to exploring the Lisbon scene online.
For clarification, I didn't have any issues with bookings from EP.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2801930]Duda got a review on the local board. If memory serves, the guy gave her a 7 out of 10. She seemed pretty cooperative and willing, and reading between the lines I took his gripe to be he wanted PSE and got GFE.
EP is very hit or miss. And depending on how picky you are about looks, it can be mostly miss. My view on it is that almost all the Portuguese girls under 30 who do eacorting want to be part-timers, so they do EP. The typical incall lady is Brasilian and in her 30s. So, if you insist on young and European, usually it means figuring out what EP girls to avoid.
But in terms of it being a scam, I'd say the odds there are equal to doing an incall lady. Anyone unreported on is a roll of the dice to a large degree.[/QUOTE]
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Sasha Fire
Did anoyne ever meet Sasha Fire??
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/de/high-class-escort-sasha-fire-6306[/URL]
She looks fire to me.
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I'm surprised to hear the comments about EP bait & switch. I know pictures can be heavily photoshopped and service from the lady lacklustre, but bait & switch is another level.
I've previously seen reference to bait & switch with other Lisbon agencies, but can't recall seeing anything about EP.
[QUOTE=YouFlat;2801789]
P.S. : I've seen a few people recommend the EP platform, my guess is that they were luckier than I was with it. I gave up after 2 bait and switches and thought this was a scam website but maybe I just got unlucky. One of the times the lady that was at the apartment instead of the one I booked was Yasmim L from apartado. So I'm not sure how that happened.
Thanks again and all the best.[/QUOTE]
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Anyone can tell anything about Sasha Fire? Looks yummy on the pics: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/dominatrix-mistress-bdsm-sasha-fire-6306[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Monsen;2802006]Anyone can tell anything about Sasha Fire? Looks yummy on the pics: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/dominatrix-mistress-bdsm-sasha-fire-6306[/URL].[/QUOTE]I am sorry for the double post. I am new to the forum. No idea how to delete an old post.
On that occasion I want to say to all you fellas.
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[QUOTE=Monsen;2802006]Anyone can tell anything about Sasha Fire? Looks yummy on the pics: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/dominatrix-mistress-bdsm-sasha-fire-6306[/URL].[/QUOTE]Sasha Fire received a terrible 4 out of 10 review today from a reviewer with three reviews.
Here is the translation of the review. Online translators are never perfect, but you will get the main points.
She is a CBJ only lady who uses misleading photos.
" good afternoon confreres.
I've been doing these things for some time but today I decided to do my first TD, sorry to be so negative.
Today I was in the Cascais area and I ended a meeting a little earlier so I decided to do what my body and mind were begging for heheh let's do it:
I called and answered the first one as if he was waiting for the call.
When I arrived I was immediately taken aback but even so the desire was so much that I said to myself let's see maybe the service is better than the appearance.
This is a serious case of photoshop, I don't know how you can say the photo is REAL anyway.
I asked if I could wash myself first, the bathroom outside the room was a little messy.
When I finished, I went to the room, she was already without clothes, she has a few extra pounds and even worse, she was very flaccid, the horny wasn't much, but in the end, I had already paid for it.
I asked to do oral without a condom as I had announced in the phone call and he said no, that he had explained it wrong, I start to do the oral but I used my hand more than my mouth, very clumsy I don't know how she can be in this profession. I was already getting a little fed up with the situation between the fake photos, with a body as I mentioned, flaccid and fat, nothing to do with the photos.
Summarized and concluding and not to repeat and if someone goes there I hope they have more luck than me but with so many women there very good I would not recommend it because they are going to throw the money away, it is better to jerk off and more satisfying.
I hope that my next TD will be more positive than this season, dear confreres.
Have a nice rest of the week and good FUCKS".
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Massage
Anyone experience Lisbon's massage parlour scene? Looking for massage with FS, thanks!
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I can absolutely not confirm this bad experience.
I stayed with her and it was wonderful.
She is a young black beauty and her performance was awesome.
Her blowjob is marvelous. I will repeat whenever I can.
This was one of the best paysex experiences I ever had.
Cannot comment about her room because she came to my place.
Could it be a different girl?
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Sasha Fire. Review quoted is 6 months old
Thanks to Mongerer88 for providing the details of the review but just to clarify that the review is almost 6 months old, rather than being done yesterday as he states. There have been no further reviews.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2802316]Sasha Fire received a terrible 4 out of 10 review today from a reviewer with three reviews.
Here is the translation of the review. Online translators are never perfect, but you will get the main points.
She is a CBJ only lady who uses misleading photos.
" good afternoon confreres.
I've been doing these things for some time but today I decided to do my first TD, sorry to be so negative.
Today I was in the Cascais area and I ended a meeting a little earlier so I decided to do what my body and mind were begging for heheh let's do it:
I called and answered the first one as if he was waiting for the call.
When I arrived I was immediately taken aback but even so the desire was so much that I said to myself let's see maybe the service is better than the appearance.
This is a serious case of photoshop, I don't know how you can say the photo is REAL anyway.
I asked if I could wash myself first, the bathroom outside the room was a little messy.
When I finished, I went to the room, she was already without clothes, she has a few extra pounds and even worse, she was very flaccid, the horny wasn't much, but in the end, I had already paid for it.
I asked to do oral without a condom as I had announced in the phone call and he said no, that he had explained it wrong, I start to do the oral but I used my hand more than my mouth, very clumsy I don't know how she can be in this profession. I was already getting a little fed up with the situation between the fake photos, with a body as I mentioned, flaccid and fat, nothing to do with the photos.
Summarized and concluding and not to repeat and if someone goes there I hope they have more luck than me but with so many women there very good I would not recommend it because they are going to throw the money away, it is better to jerk off and more satisfying.
I hope that my next TD will be more positive than this season, dear confreres.
Have a nice rest of the week and good FUCKS".[/QUOTE]
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I guess that qualifies my report as "non-review".
Is there anything I should do to bring it up to the required level?
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Reply plus some other questions
Yup. EP is an agency. MulheresVIP is an unverified ad site. For the record, the ad-verified sites are Apartadox (all EP girls are also there), Portal Privado, Momentos de Prazer, Docemassagem and Somassagens. The latter two are massage-oriented.
[QUOTE=YouFlat;2801976]Thanks for that. I am terrible sorry guys the website with the fake accounts isn't EP. I didn't know how to edit or delete my last post.
The website that fooled me twice with bait and switches was mulheresvip.
Again apologies for the mixup. I only just realised when I came back to exploring the Lisbon scene online.
For clarification, I didn't have any issues with bookings from EP.[/QUOTE]About Sasha Fire. Well, I guess that comes down to who you want to believe.
The same problem comes up as a matter of routine -- some lady one guy raves about gets a shitty review from another. It could be just a matter of YMMV or tastes.
A question came up about spas offering FS. As a rule, the proper erotically-oriented spas in central Lisbon are lingam / HJ establishments. There are some old school places like Klass where massage + FS is the norm, but if you want a good massage + FS then your best bet in central Lisbon is an independent escort rather than a spa.
The only place I can think of with a strong reputation for both is L' essence in Alges. That is a kind of exurb.
If you are interested in leaving central Lisbon for the exurbs or suburbs or want to know about the independents, please pick one. Doing both would be a very long post.
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I am trying to understand.
You have five posts.
You came asking about reviews for one lady, Sasha Fire.
No questions about any other Lisbon lady, including the many with multiple reviews on this board.
And when I respond that she received an unfavorable review on the local board from a reviewer with several reviews (I noticed the date on the local board of the latest question about her, not the date of the review), you claim to have seen her in between the time you asked about only her (not any of the hundreds of other Lisbon escorts) and the time I responded to her post, and that you had a wonderful time.
[QUOTE=Monsen;2802464]I can absolutely not confirm this bad experience.
I stayed with her and it was wonderful.
She is a young black beauty and her performance was awesome.
Her blowjob is marvelous. I will repeat whenever I can.
This was one of the best paysex experiences I ever had.
Cannot comment about her room because she came to my place.
Could it be a different girl?[/QUOTE]
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I felt like compiling this
The following are all the photo-verified massagistas who do FS and have a studio in central Lisbon that have gotten at least one good review (like 7+ out of 10) somewhere. Inquire about specific ladies for more details.
Edit: the forum auto-trimmed my list. Because AI is dumb. Oh well. It's a start anyway.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/yanna-costa/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/diana-portuguesa/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-lua/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/bruna-bastet/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1430[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-mouren-7582[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1151-kelly-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=597[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2802623]
A question came up about spas offering FS. As a rule, the proper erotically-oriented spas in central Lisbon are lingam / HJ establishments. There are some old school places like Klass where massage + FS is the norm, but if you want a good massage + FS then your best bet in central Lisbon is an independent escort rather than a spa.
The only place I can think of with a strong reputation for both is L' essence in Alges. That is a kind of exurb.
If you are interested in leaving central Lisbon for the exurbs or suburbs or want to know about the independents, please pick one. Doing both would be a very long post.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Visited Tantric Moments, very close to Sheraton Lisboa. They wanted €180 for relaxation massage with indication of he included. I decided to walk away.
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Good call. Even if you want to do the spa thing, that isn't the best place to go do it.
Check the list I made -- those independents are known for doing at least a decent massage or nuru + FS. They all.have good reviews to their credit.
[QUOTE=Romero001;2802746]Thanks for the reply. Visited Tantric Moments, very close to Sheraton Lisboa. They wanted 180 for relaxation massage with indication of he included. I decided to walk away.[/QUOTE]
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Well more or less, yes.
I read Al lot of the recent posts. As I could not get any of the recommended ladies here to fit my requirements in time & other I asked about this 1 lady as I she would fulfill my requirements after communication with her. She looked awesome to me on the pics and told me that her pics are real. Now as it takes some time until posts get through here and I did not have your reply until I wanted to book, I just booked her. This was no mistake and I wanted to give the Cavour of information on ladies back to the forum.
I have five posts yes. Everyone starts with 0 posts. Not sure what I can do about it. Now if you think I am not credible. OK. Also nothing I can do about it I guess.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2802637]I am trying to understand.
You have five posts.
You came asking about reviews for one lady, Sasha Fire.
No questions about any other Lisbon lady, including the many with multiple reviews on this board.
And when I respond that she received an unfavorable review on the local board from a reviewer with several reviews (I noticed the date on the local board of the latest question about her, not the date of the review), you claim to have seen her in between the time you asked about only her (not any of the hundreds of other Lisbon escorts) and the time I responded to her post, and that you had a wonderful time.[/QUOTE]
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Just to complete my below info.
My timeline was: I asked a few of the recommend girls back from home on the weekend. Answers were not satisfying. So I checked for other girls and found Sasha. Then on Monday I asked if anybody knows her, me still being home. On Tuesday I flew to Lisbon and also got the answer to my question. But just right after I booked her.
Now BTW, I am still here and I booked her already for a second time. Believe it or not and I can reconfirm.
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Escort for couple in Lisbon
Hi guys, I have been going thru this thread and the pages great tips and reviews. My wife and I are looking for an experience with another girl but I can't find much info about escort reviews of experiences with couples. We are both in our 40's so looking for girls that are not too young. Some girls that would check all the pints preference wize are Valeria Diaz or Mariana Amaral. But the main thing would be that she would be in to girls and provide maximum interaction with both. Or perhaps a massage parlour that would provide couples massage with interaction with the masseuse (s)? Any advice?
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Massage parlour or Escort for couples
Hi guys, it has been great to go thru this thread and find so much useful information and reviews.
I was hoping to arrange a nice program with my girlfriend in Lisbon. She is very in to women and so am I so I was thinking of either a massage parlour that offers a nice experience for couples (FS or at least oral). Or perhaps just going with an escort that attends couples. The problem is I can't find any reviews about couples. My girlfriend is in to threesomes as long as the women are hot and into it, so it would have to be a Bi escort and not just someone that would be passive regarding women. Not sure how I can find out if each girl is actually Bi or just accepts going with couples and then mostly interacts with the man.
We would be more in to mature women, something like Valéria Diaz, she is super hot, or maybe Marian Amaral (although not a big fan of very fake boobs).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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The problems with reviews, a case study
I was catching up with the local board while waiting on a call, and there was a new one of the EP girl Andreia Martins.
So Andreia has 3 reviews now, a 6, 7 and 8 out of 10. This most recent review was the most detailed yet, and described Martin as having self-harm / suicide attempt scars and pretty bad teeth. Those are huge red flags, and one has to wonder what the standards of the other two guys are that they didn't mention this. One griped about her tobacco smell, but somehow failed to mention the teeth?
But here is the kicker: the guy who tells us this gave her the 8! Seriously, WTF is wrong with him? Is that a typo or what?
I consider the review sources I look at to be pretty reliable. I've never turned up with a lady who has a 7. 5 average and had anything less than a decent time. But still, it's always worth keeping in mind that the guy in question may not share your standards and preferences.
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I think you should just ask whoever you fancy. This is keeping in mind that plenty of ladies will work for couples, but not really be into it. However, some specifically come out and tell you they aren't interested.
With EP girls, remember sometimes you are talking to the lady herself and sometimes to the agency.
Unfortunately, the ladies I knew who would have genuinely enjoyed the prospect of doing you both (so much so they wouldn't have charged extra for it) are all retired. But my instincts tell me, of the two EP ladies you mentioned, you should approach Valeria first.
[QUOTE=Coupleof3;2803096]Hi guys, I have been going thru this thread and the pages great tips and reviews. My wife and I are looking for an experience with another girl but I can't find much info about escort reviews of experiences with couples. We are both in our 40's so looking for girls that are not too young. Some girls that would check all the pints preference wize are Valeria Diaz or Mariana Amaral. But the main thing would be that she would be in to girls and provide maximum interaction with both. Or perhaps a massage parlour that would provide couples massage with interaction with the masseuse (s)? Any advice?[/QUOTE]
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Asking about couples.
I had a second thought.
I'm thinking Kama Leao has been with some of his regulars enough that he might know how they feel about doing couples. So Kama, any thoughts?
If he doesn't see the thing in a timely fashion for you, try PM'ing him. He has posts down the thread.
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[QUOTE=CoupleOf3;2803163]Hi guys, it has been great to go thru this thread and find so much useful information and reviews.
I was hoping to arrange a nice program with my girlfriend in Lisbon. She is very in to women and so am I so I was thinking of either a massage parlour that offers a nice experience for couples (FS or at least oral). Or perhaps just going with an escort that attends couples. The problem is I can't find any reviews about couples. My girlfriend is in to threesomes as long as the women are hot and into it, so it would have to be a Bi escort and not just someone that would be passive regarding women. Not sure how I can find out if each girl is actually Bi or just accepts going with couples and then mostly interacts with the man.
We would be more in to mature women, something like Valria Diaz, she is super hot, or maybe Marian Amaral (although not a big fan of very fake boobs)..[/QUOTE]Joana Montenegro has been reviewed by couples before and always has very good feedback. My solo experience with her was on the vanilla side but it's definitely a GFE experience and she has an enchanting and relaxed personality. Would be a good fit perhaps and she is one of the more beautiful and natural looking ladies at EP. A few tattoos but no fake parts.
Wouldn't write off some of the younger ladies. Flora Neves told me she's done couples bookings before and bookings with other girls. Her personality is mature and intelligent and she comes across like a girl you would meet socially, not an escort so could work for your girlfriend.
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[QUOTE=CoupleOf3;2803163]Hi guys, it has been great to go thru this thread and find so much useful information and reviews.
I was hoping to arrange a nice program with my girlfriend in Lisbon. She is very in to women and so am I so I was thinking of either a massage parlour that offers a nice experience for couples (FS or at least oral). Or perhaps just going with an escort that attends couples. The problem is I can't find any reviews about couples. My girlfriend is in to threesomes as long as the women are hot and into it, so it would have to be a Bi escort and not just someone that would be passive regarding women. Not sure how I can find out if each girl is actually Bi or just accepts going with couples and then mostly interacts with the man.
We would be more in to mature women, something like Valria Diaz, she is super hot, or maybe Marian Amaral (although not a big fan of very fake boobs).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.[/QUOTE]In addition to Joana and Flora, give Sara Valente of EP a look. I did a threesome with her and Alexandria and Sara can really carry a threesome. She is genuinely bisexual, very outgoing and speaks perfect English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
As noted in the many reviews Joana and Flora have prettier faces than Sara. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=PER23;2803240]Joana Montenegro has been reviewed by couples before and always has very good feedback. My solo experience with her was on the vanilla side but it's definitely a GFE experience and she has an enchanting and relaxed personality. Would be a good fit perhaps and she is one of the more beautiful and natural looking ladies at EP. A few tattoos but no fake parts.
Wouldn't write off some of the younger ladies. Flora Neves told me she's done couples bookings before and bookings with other girls. Her personality is mature and intelligent and she comes across like a girl you would meet socially, not an escort so could work for your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]Thanks a lot ExExpatriate, yes I would guess in the end it is all about trying to find out among the ones that advertise they do couples if they are actually in to it. Yes I have read great reviews about Joana Montenegro but to be honest from the pictures she really isn't my type. But Flora Neves is pretty hot, although for the younger side I would be more inclined to someone like Carolina Belmont.
I do recall a post on this thread from a guy that said he had a great Nuru massage with his girlfriend and a couple of girls in a massage parlour (I think L'essence) but couldn't track it down. But regarding massages it is also a gamble if you actually have a masseuse that is in to girl on girl interaction or just someone that will massage and the do some lingam.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2803229]
I'm thinking Kama Leao has been with some of his regulars enough that he might know how they feel about doing couples. So Kama, any thoughts?[/QUOTE]
Sorry but... not really. I'm not a threesomes fan and I can't even remember the last time I tried it. As far as my memory goes, I have the idea that it was good but not good enough to do it again. I'd rather focus all my attention on one at a time.
Sorry again.
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Thanks Kama. My thought was that they might have mentioned it. I've never done a threesome, but I've been told some work stories about them without asking.
As for a spa for a FS threesome, I think L'Essence is your bet. You can count on getting FS for one thing. And you could go there and ask to see everyone who is available, and pick out someone who seems into you.
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Aurora Alfaite
Saw her at the weekend (last girl on my list that I hadn't seen from EP).
Looks are ok but I thought she was poorly dressed in a weird pantsuit and v neck sweater. Not a big deal, but the appearance and fashion adds to the allure. Average, mildly cute face, light skinned black girl with curly hair (she wore a wig in the photos). Bad acne scars on her cheeks, though. Body is nice and toned. She is very petite and tight, but can take a pounding (despite claiming her hips were hurting in missionary). Overall, I'd say she looks less sexy than the photos and younger than advertised. Could easily pass for 18. In this particular case, I considered it a negative.
BJ was pretty good and she is attentive, but in my opinion somewhat cold. Her English is good but she doesn't have much to say for herself. Meek, not submissive. Might be jaded by now. For that reason, I got the sex over with faster than usual and sent her on her way just after an hour into the two hour booking. From the brief conversation we had, I gathered she prefers older clients that are easier to please and have less stamina.
One thing. I had seen reviews that she refuses oral on her, so I asked if that was true. She said it was down to clients doing it poorly, so we gave it a try and she did come but it took quite some time. She was physically very tense during the start of the booking.
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[QUOTE=PER23;2803916]One thing. I had seen reviews that she refuses oral on her, so I asked if that was true. She said it was down to clients doing it poorly, so we gave it a try and she did come but it took quite some time. She was physically very tense during the start of the booking.[/QUOTE]Wow. Thanks for mentioning this. I had actually made note of this and was planning to ask her about DATY before booking. She's back on my list. Young and natural. Sounds like my kind of girl.
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Carolina Belmont
I decided to try something new today and got in touch with Carolina today based on favorable reviews.
Here are my thoughts:
-she is hot, but not necessarily hotter than the favorably rated EP girls.
-she has a good attitude, but seemed was a little lukewarm. Maybe just first meet vibes or because I'm not portuguese?
-I paid the foreigner tax, 200 + "uber" which is fine to kick the tires.
-she wasn't cool with CIM, which seemed odd based on reviews but whatever.
-she was in and out in 30 min.
Overall it was nice to meet her but will stick with the well reviewed EP girls moving forward. Maybe I caught her on an off night.
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I had seen that on the local board. There was a period where reports had her asking for more money, and she was leaving early. My own take on it was that one needed to exercise their own time management to get the most from her, and to make it clear you knew her rate was supposed to be 170. Basically, she may or may not haggle.
If she has raised her rates to 200 on the regular, that isn't worth it, IMO. As you say, there are a few EP girls in the same league (even if it's like comparing the Orioles to the Red Sox or Yankees) and less complicated; and for 150, you can get a great incall lady to care for you.
Mind you, she was always a girl who offered just one pop per hour. That is what I mean by time management. She doesn't rush things, but when you're done, she doesn't linger. As for CIM, I don't recall anyone reporting she did that. Some don't.
[QUOTE=PeteMpls;2804521]I decided to try something new today and got in touch with Carolina today based on favorable reviews.
Here are my thoughts:
-she is hot, but not necessarily hotter than the favorably rated EP girls.
-she has a good attitude, but seemed was a little lukewarm. Maybe just first meet vibes or because I'm not portuguese?
-I paid the foreigner tax, 200 + "uber" which is fine to kick the tires.
-she wasn't cool with CIM, which seemed odd based on reviews but whatever.
-she was in and out in 30 min.
Overall it was nice to meet her but will stick with the well reviewed EP girls moving forward. Maybe I caught her on an off night.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2804747]I had seen that on the local board. There was a period where reports had her asking for more money, and she was leaving early. My own take on it was that one needed to exercise their own time management to get the most from her, and to make it clear you knew her rate was supposed to be 170. Basically, she may or may not haggle.
If she has raised her rates to 200 on the regular, that isn't worth it, IMO. As you say, there are a few EP girls in the same league (even if it's like comparing the Orioles to the Red Sox or Yankees) and less complicated; and for 150, you can get a great incall lady to care for you.
Mind you, she was always a girl who offered just one pop per hour. That is what I mean by time management. She doesn't rush things, but when you're done, she doesn't linger. As for CIM, I don't recall anyone reporting she did that. Some don't.[/QUOTE]You definitely want to be assertive with these girls. Not to sound like a dick about this, but they need the money more than you need to see them specifically. Carolina works with Ariana Pilar / Debora Pires (also ex-EP) as a duo. I saw Ariana a few times last winter after she left EP and she quoted 400 for two hours, plus travel costs. I offered her 300, take it or leave it. She was at my place 45 minutes later.
Maybe that's just me, but none of these ladies are that special, price is just a bargaining tool and the person who needs the money least has the leverage.
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[QUOTE=PER23;2804760]You definitely want to be assertive with these girls. Not to sound like a dick about this, but they need the money more than you need to see them specifically. Carolina works with Ariana Pilar / Debora Pires (also ex-EP) as a duo. I saw Ariana a few times last winter after she left EP and she quoted 400 for two hours, plus travel costs. I offered her 300, take it or leave it. She was at my place 45 minutes later.
Maybe that's just me, but none of these ladies are that special, price is just a bargaining tool and the person who needs the money least has the leverage.[/QUOTE]It all makes sense. I didn't have my head on straight when I decided to reach out to her so I was a little sloppy. Appreciate the great info here guys, it makes things way more predictable and enjoyable.
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The way I look at it is this. I've been with Flora Neves and Carolina Belmont. Is Carolina worth 20 euros more an hour + a little hassle in time management? Probably, but that is really down to your taste and sense of discipline. The difference between them is real, but not large.
But 50 euros? Pah. I'd kick Carolina to the curb, spend a little more and do two hours with Flora any day.
20 euros is debatable. 50+Uber isn't. 50+Uber reaches the half hour rate for a lot of photo-verified incall ladies.
[QUOTE=PeteMpls;2804876]It all makes sense. I didn't have my head on straight when I decided to reach out to her so I was a little sloppy. Appreciate the great info here guys, it makes things way more predictable and enjoyable.[/QUOTE]
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Another EP name change. Mafaldo Melo - Solange Abreu
Just read on the (hilarious) local board that Solange Abreu is the detestable Mafalda.
At least they took her out to the beach for the photoshoot. Poor thing (kidding).
Thought I'd give you fair warning as they tend to position the new girls and the ones with new photos (like Samanta Lima) near the top of the page.
Off topic, but I see Ariana Luz is now off the EP site. Too bad, she was one of the most unique looking women I've ever seen. 6 ft with a six pack, a fitness model body and very feminine. I saw her on Christmas Day last year which was a novel experience.
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Exchanging private details with escorts
Might be because I've been living here for a while and seen quite a few EP girls more than once, but I've got a lot of their numbers and instagram details etc.
Anyone else experienced this? I'd say 50% of the ladies I've seen have offered to pass me their number. I always ask for the Instagram as well and they have no issue handing that over even though it has their real name etc.
Still hear from some of them occasionally but I only book one privately. One has her plastic surgery photos documented on Insta and frankly, it's shocking to see the before and after.
They're obviously trying to undercut the agency and find some regulars. I have been told that a lot of escorts have been fired for trying that since most are doing this short term and want to get to a certain income faster without paying out 40%.
Wondering if that's what happened to Sandra Moura, who's now going by Francisca Moura on Mulheres and PortalPrivado?
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Strangely Sandra is still on EP as a threesome with Joana Montenegro and Julia Nobrega, but she's gone as a standalone.
[QUOTE=PER23;2805249]
They're obviously trying to undercut the agency and find some regulars. I have been told that a lot of escorts have been fired for trying that since most are doing this short term and want to get to a certain income faster without paying out 40%.
Wondering if that's what happened to Sandra Moura, who's now going by Francisca Moura on Mulheres and PortalPrivado?[/QUOTE]
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EP does that. If one girl in a duo ad is still active, they leave the ad up. It's SOP for them.
Whenever I meet an EP girl I want to see again, and I anticipate being able to return to Lisbon at regular intervals, I ask about setting up a side channel and cutting out the agency. I didn't do that this last time, for example, because my next time won't be in Lisbon proper hardly at all, and the time after that was 8 months later. A lot can change for those girls over 8 months.
My incall ladies who retired, but continued to see me outcall afterward? They both took the lead in setting that up.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2805395]Strangely Sandra is still on EP as a threesome with Joana Montenegro and Julia Nobrega, but she's gone as a standalone.[/QUOTE]
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A bizarre SOP. If one girl is not active, it's not possible to book that combination of girls but they leave the duo / threesome ad up.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2805412]EP does that. If one girl in a duo ad is still active, they leave the ad up. It's SOP for them.
Whenever I meet an EP girl I want to see again, and I anticipate being able to return to Lisbon at regular intervals, I ask about setting up a side channel and cutting out the agency. I didn't do that this last time, for example, because my next time won't be in Lisbon proper hardly at all, and the time after that was 8 months later. A lot can change for those girls over 8 months.
My incall ladies who retired, but continued to see me outcall afterward? They both took the lead in setting that up.[/QUOTE]
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Another EP dud. Valeria Diaz
Just kicked Valeria Diaz out after exactly 16 minutes. She's weird as fuck. Twitchy and sweaty, like she was on speed. Didn't like her vibe at all. She's got something weird going on.
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I saw that was being said on the local board recently too.
Valeria has been with EP for more than a year now; her current ad is her third photo essay. Until very recently -- like the last couple of weeks recently -- she was very well reviewed here, on the local board, and (according to Mongerer) on the big US board. The main complaint about her was, if one was made, was that she was closer to 40 than 30. Friendly, attractive, petite, very willing. She is also probably a single mom with a day job, doing this as a side hustle; she is only available from 6 to 9.
But you are now the second person to say she was wigged out on arrival. I never put too much stock in a single outlier against many positives, but yours makes two!
Burnout? She's off her meds or doing some meds to work?
[QUOTE=PER23;2806098]Just kicked Valeria Diaz out after exactly 16 minutes. She's weird as fuck. Twitchy and sweaty, like she was on speed. Didn't like her vibe at all. She's got something weird going on.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2806290]I saw that was being said on the local board recently too.
Valeria has been with EP for more than a year now; her current ad is her third photo essay. Until very recently -- like the last couple of weeks recently -- she was very well reviewed here, on the local board, and (according to Mongerer) on the big US board. The main complaint about her was, if one was made, was that she was closer to 40 than 30. Friendly, attractive, petite, very willing. She is also probably a single mom with a day job, doing this as a side hustle; she is only available from 6 to 9.
But you are now the second person to say she was wigged out on arrival. I never put too much stock in a single outlier against many positives, but yours makes two!
Burnout? She's off her meds or doing some meds to work?[/QUOTE]Should have provided more detail on this very brief encounter. To me, she's pretty unattractive and at least 40. Body's decent but her face is extremely sunken and wrinkled. I doubt you would have noticed her socially in the 1990's. She's "quirky" to the point of irritating. Imagine her pausing the BJ every 10 seconds to make goofy faces, come up to kiss you when you've said you don't want to and referring to herself in the third person constantly asking a bunch of dumb questions about whether I like the stop and start blowjob. I actually thought she wouldn't leave when I told her to. She kept asking why as if I need to explain. Her body was cold yet sweating profusely. I think she's high as a kite or medicated. Same difference.
In summary, she's clapped out and a moron. Avoid like the plague.
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Ep
I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...
Why don't you just try:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/[/URL]
[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa[/URL]
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2809033]I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...
Why don't you just try:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/[/URL]
[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa[/URL][/QUOTE]What about [URL]https://www.ninfaescorts.com/[/URL].
I haven't heard or seen any info on this one but has some girls not on others. Anyone have any exp with that site?
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I mostly agree, Kama. I always want to bring up incall, and ask if it's an option.
But I think for a lot of patrons and lurkers to this particular forum, they either need a call girl specifically or don't realize just how easy and pleasant the incall scene in Lisbon is (especially if you are already in central Lisbon). Plus, a visitor already has a hotel room, and these days EP prices are comparable to incall.
If I still lived in Lisbon, I would never use EP. And when I visit, I always mix EP with incall, as circumstances dictate.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2809033]I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...
Why don't you just try:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/classificados-acompanhantes-Lisboa-Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagistas/[/URL]
[URL]https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://mulheresvip.net/acompanhantes/lisboa[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Interested in SA
Would you contact details for this lady?
[QUOTE=HarryDubois;2781889]I just returned from three days in Portugal. I rented a small studio apartment in Cascais. Before arriving I joined [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I messaged dozens of women in the Lisbon area. Four met with me through a video chat. I did this to insure that the photos were accurate and also to get some idea of her personality. Of the four I chose one, Luana.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3672dab7-7f99-46ef-a407-f0108fc87498[/URL]
I am attaching real, recent and accurate photos. After returning yesterday I watched a few videos featuring Natalia Starr.
[URL]https://www.xvideos.com/models/natalia--starr[/URL]#.
To me, there seemed to be a remarkable similarity between the two women. For a few minutes I was wondering if these videos WERE Luana!
Luana claims to be 25 but I am guessing actually 28. She is 5'7". She says that she doesn't smoke however I did sometimes detect perhaps a slight tobacco odor. She recently arrived in Lisbon from Brazil. She is from Minas Gerais and of Italian ancestry. She speaks only Portuguese however we managed very well using google translate.
Luana arrived at 9:00 pm Monday and remained with me in our apartment until I left at 2:30 pm Thursday. I paid her 1800 euros total.
It was the best sex of my life. Everything was on the menu although obviously vaginal and anal sex must be with a condom. Beyond that it seems like anything goes.
Luana is very new in the sex industry. She is certainly not new to sex but she is new to getting paid for sex. I was her third client. She is a very very nice, sweet, normal young woman. If you do meet her, please be kind and respectful.[/QUOTE]
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I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.
Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2809185]I mostly agree, Kama. I always want to bring up incall, and ask if it's an option.
But I think for a lot of patrons and lurkers to this particular forum, they either need a call girl specifically or don't realize just how easy and pleasant the incall scene in Lisbon is (especially if you are already in central Lisbon). Plus, a visitor already has a hotel room, and these days EP prices are comparable to incall.
If I still lived in Lisbon, I would never use EP. And when I visit, I always mix EP with incall, as circumstances dictate.[/QUOTE]
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Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.
To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.
Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?
There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.
So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.
As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2809339]I'd say that the pleasantness and ambience of a good quality hotel room clearly trumps most incall settings. From what I've seen reported, incall rooms are sometimes cramped and bathroom facilities poor. Having the meet in my hotel room really does make for a better experience for me. It also puts my mind at rest regarding cleanliness of linen, towels etc.
Regarding EP prices being comparable to incall prices, they aren't; the vast majority of incall prices being reported on the local board are 100-120 per hour, compared to 150 for EP. Personally, I'd rather pay that bit more to be in my hotel room, but a 30-50 difference isn't negligible. There is of course the possibility of being hit with the foreigner tax when requesting incall prices, which may bring them in line with EP outcall![/QUOTE]
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Highly inaccurate and a classic case of statistical fallacy. You've even used the word 'objective' which is completely the opposite of the basis of your assertion. What you've laid out couldn't be more subjective if you tried your hardest.
Essentially, you've referenced a random few ladies who happen to be charging 150/ h and used that to say 150 is the norm (you've actually backtracked a little and do now refer to a going rate of "120-150" but even that is somewhat inaccurate).
As for the local board being "riddled with members routinely complaining most are charging 150/ h" - again this paints a misleading picture as it takes no account of the many ladies charging less than 150 who get no mention within those comments.
Specifically, you say that some ladies are still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. You also say that I must be including the unverified and street walker reports to make my "claim" accurately. Both comments are inaccurate. However, rather than these subjective comments, supported by random selections, let's be objective. I've just had a browse of the last 15 ladies reported on the Lisbon certified / verified section, all with reports in 2023 (i.e. no random selections, no subjective comments about what people are / aren't saying, and no street walkers or unverified ladies). These are the results:
- 2 ladies at 60 for 30 minutes.
- 2 ladies at 70 for 30 minutes.
- 1 lady at 80 for 30 minutes.
- 1 lady at 90/ h.
- 4 ladies at 100/ h.
- 3 ladies at 120/ h.
- 1 lady at 140/ h.
- 1 lady at 170/ h.
Upon further delving into the 5 meets that were for 30 minutes, 3 of those are at 120/ h, with one at 140/ h and another at 150/ h.
Overall, therefore, only 2/15 ladies are at 150 or higher. 11/15 ladies are at 90-120/ h. This isn't just a few ladies, or randomly selecting whoever happens to be in my head - it's an objective analysis of a good number of the most recent verified meets. You even referenced age and that the lower rates are for ladies over 40; untrue as only 2/15 ladies here are 40+. 13/15 ladies are early 20's to early 30's. Overall, the reality is totally at odds with your assertion that rates are "leaning pretty clearly to 150" and that it's only over 40's offering lower rates.
In terms of "preferences and sometimes circumstantial" reasons for wanting to do an incall over a meet in your hotel room, as I've said more than once before there is no reason for me personally to have an incall if the lady does outcalls, either by preference or circumstance. I'd only consider incalls where the lady does not do outcalls or I didn't want to pay the extra fee.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2809351]Wrong on prices. That is an objective point, not a matter of opinion. Admittedly, there are a few well-regarded ladies still charging 100/ h, but even 120/ h is becoming less common. The going rate is really 120-150, and leaning pretty clearly to 150.
To say the local board indicates anything else isn't accurate, given that it is riddled with members routinely complaining about how the ladies they want to fuck the most are charging 150/ h.
Just off the cuff. Patricia Navarro? 120. Eller? 150. Jennifer PT just moved up to 150. Kelly Morais is above 150. Natalia Brandt, 120 last time I checked. Isis Lisboa, 150. Aurora Vaz, 150. Luna Cardoso, 150. Out in Cascais, literally the only well-ranked woman that might be charging under 150 is Veronica Franco. Need I go on?
There are some still at 100, but as a rule they are over 40. We don't get asked about the 40 to 50-something group here much. The idea that 100/h is the going rate in Lisbon is so 2019.
So when most of the incall ladies I recommend to people are charging 150, yeah, it's fair to say EP is comparable in terms of price. To say the "vast majority" -- well, you must be roping in the low scoring, unverified and street walker reports to make that claim accurately. I doubt anyone on this forum wants to know about those categories.
As for the benefits of having a nice hotel room and being able to stay there and wait in comfort, as I have said many, many times, there are reasons to prefer a call girl to incall. Those are preferences and sometimes circumstantial. I go both routes, depending on circumstances.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2809033]I just can't understand why so many posts are spent dealing with the virtues and sins of the Escort Privada ladies. As if that was the only place where meetings with Lisbon escorts could be found!...[/QUOTE]Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.
In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).
Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.
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Arguing on the internet is a waste of time, for all the usual reasons. That wasn't aimed at Harry, but at the people who would read Harry.
So, what I say to everyone else is if you go to Lisbon with the idea that the going incall rate for a photo-verified, main ad site escort is 100/ h and stubbornly stick to that idea, you'll come away frustrated and thinking very nearly everyone you might want to see is slapping a tourist tax on you. If you are like me, and resent it when you think someone is gouging you, then you'll waste a lot of time before you realize the truth of it.
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Arguing is indeed a waste of time, but highlighting clearly inaccurate / misleading comments is a necessity.
What I would say to others here is don't think the going rate for a main ad escort incall is 150/ hr. What is actually being reported on the local board suggests that 150 is not the norm. Plenty of ladies are offering incalls at 100-120/hr.
Tourist taxes is potential issue that we've discussed before. But it won't be all ladies who slap that on you, and we've also previously discussed strategies to mitigate that, namely get a local sim and communicate in Portuguese on WhatsApp!
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That is the other angle, and regular observers of the local board should notice their frustration about it. The guys who want a Portuguese, college age girl are keenly aware that they must go to the expense of getting a room on top of the one hour call girl bill. A lot of them resent it.
While there are Portuguese women working incall -- tuga women certainly aren't rare -- the vast majority are Brazilian. By contrast, most of EP's roster at any given time is Portuguese. Compounding that, at least four of the currently active independent escorts, incall or outcall, who are Portuguese are also ex-EP girls.
If you want young and European, at any given time the majority of the choices in Lisbon are on the EP roster. That tends to simplify things.
EP has changed somewhat. It used to be there were rarely Brazilians with the agency. These last few years have seen them become a constant presence, if still a minority one. I don't know if the overall quality has declined, however. It seems to me their lemons have always outnumbered their stars and good workers put together.
The reports one gets about SA certainly make it a competitor for EP in some respects. That said, it wasn't that long ago that EP's roster was much smaller than it is today. Ditto for all the photo-verified ad sites. My own take is the overall scene is about what it has been this last decade in terms of finding quality, but the numbers have grown.
[QUOTE=JoeSeed;2809476]Because EP marketed itself as the standard for young Portuguese girls who do outcalls which is what many foreigners are looking for. Even today, its hard to find new young Portuguese girls in the Lisbon area, who are available to outcalls, that aren't immediately under EP wing.
In the past, several of them were actual college girls who did this on the side or just girls who didn't cycle 5-6 guys everyday (they were busy / had jobs on the side / quickly found patrons) while that's really what most girls on apartado / portal / massagens do, and the vast majority of them are Brazilians (some of them don't even like leaving their apartment where they feel safe).
Its a completely different market. EP is probably shit now (haven't really fucked any of these girls), there's too much tourism, not enough Portuguese girls, and since 2017/2018 online dating went crazy and Lisbon tourism x5 in size, its much much easier for a girl who wants to find some guys to support them financially through these tools / networking than it was in the past.[/QUOTE]
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Girls' info for this weekend, please
Hola amigos gentlemen,
I'm from Spain and will stay just this long weekend (30 --3) in Lisbon. Newby here. I like that this forum seems useful, serious and respectful to both members and ladies. Brilliant for you. I've been doing some homework reading references and with ads, quite a lot options, sometimes overwhelming. Had some bad experiences as most of us: fake photos, different girls, scams, bad attitude etc. And specially for me is a bummer, in my only few holidays get furious and bitter. So I decided to do my best to avoid it this time!!
I see an average good glamorous level.
For me is primordial:
- Incall and no more than 150 eu. And 80-120 eu much better).
- Friendly GFE especially FKissing, smiling and attitude in giving AND receiving pleasure (cum. Fingering and cunni, the most effective) , passionate.
- BJ. Preferible natural. Second round-extra ball 2 x 1 h at least.
- Incall and no more than 150 eu (. 120 eu much better).
- Tittyfuck, busty enough for it, but not oversized, some silicone is ok too, well proportioned.
- Speaking good-basic Spanish or English.
Desirable:
- Long black hair- Tanned, bikini marks are funny too, soft skin.
- Brave pointy nipples.
- Sporty- 30 min option.
And I'm amazed that can be the Brazilian paradise. So maybe my first kind of ladies would be that, long black hair, curvy. Not easy to find anywhere, quite different and pricey.
My ideas:
Patricia Navarro - Reviews and pics top. +30 is OK too. They told she is in Porto some days maybe?
Evely Clifford / Melissa onñwhy found a few reviews, pics are crazy. Any info about her. Please.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/melissa/511826/?list=hfz9efhttps://massagerepublic.com/female-escorts-in-lisbon/evelyn-latina-brazilian[/URL]
Gaby / Baby Andrade. Anal queen. Never tried, maybe my deflowering. Apart. Pics are superbLORENA PAIVA -* pics and 2 ref*++ can't find if she does incall. Or pricesSOLANGE - 6 ++refs in EuroGirlScorts-those nips!
Isis -/ Schultz-* 2* ++ refs in EuroGS* [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/isis/464288/[/URL].
Other, but less appealing to my eyes: Anita
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/anita/352005/BABI[/URL] [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/babi/151654/SARAH[/URL] [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/sarah/301986/?list=47zm2whitey[/URL] but natural and good reviews in GFE.
Some webs doesn't not detail prices or incall / outcall or services-* one can only text directly to the girl to know?
Any opinions or suggestion for other trustable girl are very welcome. Will try to meet two.
Well, sorry if too much text and asking, but as I say for my is very important, no more bad experiences, I'm a modest poor guy.
Have a nice day! Would like to contact the girls with some anticipation.
Salud!
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Short visit to Lisbon
Firstly, a big thanks to ExExpatriate and Mongerer88 for their prompt and efficient help in figuring out the Lisbon mongering scene. As I was going to be in Lisbon for only 3 days and that too for business, I reached out to both of these brothers and they helped without hesitation. Especially the little little tips from ExExpatriate not only saved time and energy but also from possible scams and disappointments as I knew what to expect.
The report is from the Easter week so a little late in writing this. Before reaching Lisbon, I had gone through about 20-30 recent pages on this thread before reaching Lisbon and coupled with the advice by these fellow brothers, I could narrow down the list to the following ladies as best / top options:
Flora Neves, Irina Melo, Soraia Albuquerque, Bela Soares, Marta Castro, Eva Branco, Adriana Santos, Joana Montenegro. (a few more suggestions dropped as they didn't fit my type much).
I was also advised to message them as much in advance as possible but work kept me busy so I could only message them once I reached Lisbon. I was there on Wed, Thu, Fri and left Saturday morning. I had messaged almost all of these ladies the very evening I arrived (for meeting next day). However, it was probably my really bad luck due to easter holiday earlier as Flora (my top choice) replied that she isn't available until Monday; Bela said Saturday or later; Irina Melo never replied; Eva initially said she can meet Friday but later bailed, Soraia replied to few initial messages but on the exact message trying to fix the time and date of meet, she ghosted too; similar stories with others as well though I don't remember the exact specifics, and with some replies, the timing just clashed with my business. Flora and Bela were really a sweetheart on the texts though and would've loved to meet them in person. Almost all of them who replied suggested a friend or friends instead, LOL.
This kept happening over Wed and Thu so I made up my mind that I HAD to meet someone. Now I know that Freitas chicks have been advised on the forum to be avoided but I think Bela or someone suggested Mara Freitas from EP and although I initially hesitated in calling her, she was the only one prompt in replying and available and open to multiple 'opportunities', DFK, BBBJ, CIM and probably everything except anal. So decided to call her for outcall for 150/ h. She initially said she can reach by 9:30 but later said traffic showing more so 10. I was chilling at my airbnb so I was fine with it. She finally only arrived at around 10:30 and considering the prior warnings about punctuality in Lisbon, I think she made it somewhat on time, LOL.
Now gentlemen, I don't have top performers like Flora or Irina etc. To compare Mara with, so don't be harsh on me if you disagree with my FR or have a bad experience with her. But from her very arrival, Mara was all smiling and sweet. Although language was a bit of a barrier as she didn't speak much english, but it wasn't much difficult to manage for an hour. In the looks department, she looked quite fine to me. Seemed decently tall, about 170-172 cms I guess; ginger-brown hair, pale white skin (which I like), pretty eyes and smile, slender but with curves in right places which I discovered properly later. We both washed up and proceeded to bed. She put on some nice music, dim the lights, and started seductively dancing around me. Grabbed my face, leaned in and started gently kissing which soon turned to DFK. She was setting the mood right. We quickly undressed and continued kissing and exploring each other's body. Grabbed her handful titties and sucked them nicely. After a while, she pushed me on the bed, came on top and pulled my pants down, kissed the whole body first, and then proceeded to give a really nice and sloppy BBBJ. Paid full attention to balls as well and at no point it felt rushed. After a satisfying BJ, I asked her whether she's okay with DATY and she said yes. So fed on her juicy pussy to my heart's content and after a while climbed up to put her mouth back around my Johnny. Later asked her to put on the protection and she climbed on top. She was quite good in cowgirl and I could run my hands all over her slender and pretty body. Changed to missionary and a few variations there and came panting heavily.
After the first round, we cuddled in bed and made the best use of google translate but she joked that she could understand my English, just that she needs translator to respond properly. She mentioned that she's around 25 (EP profile says 19 LOL), has two kids, and separated. Has a day job at some Nail Salon or something. I also asked that she has 'anal' for 50 extra mentioned on her profile so does she actually do it, and she said no, everyone just writes it on the profile but don't actually do it. Anyway, I was fine with it. I asked her if she wants to go for another round, to which she smilingly said yes. Although she used translator to mention that we have about 20 minutes left so we should get started now. I quickly cleaned up and second round started in similar fashion. Same DFK, same BJ and I was hard surprisingly sooner than I thought. It was going good and I had a great view of her pale ass in doggy when suddenly an alarm went off in her phone and she said only 5 minutes left. Damn. That suddenly threw me off and while I was about to cum earlier, it just stopped. Continued in doggy for a few minutes but then she again mentioned 2 minutes left, and I was like I would be fucking done before that if only you stop mentioning time or putting pressure on me like that. LOL.
Anyway, I asked her to blow me again and she did it enthusiastically, putting her tongue out in anticipation. But realising it wouldn't be easy now, I 'took matters in my own hand' and finished in her mouth.
Overall it was a satisfactory experience, and she definitely had a warm vibe and put in full effort and showed involvement. It didn't feel mechanical or rushed at any point, except for the last part of course which was very unexpected LOL. Another couple of things I must mention which didn't matter to me but might matter to others is that she had a see-section scar on lower abdomen (which is obviously edited in the EP pics) and probably shaves her body (especially thighs) instead of waxing them which makes the skin not as smooth as is the case when women wax.
Hope this report helps others, and I hope to return to Lisbon soon to try out the other top delicacies next time.
P.S. - I was also in touch with one Bianca Brandao ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bianca-brandao-6645[/URL] [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/bianca-brandao/412702/#[/URL] [URL]https://mulheresvip.net/en/escort/lisbon/bianca-brandao[/URL]) who declined to come to airbnb but was open to hotel or incall. Quoted quite high to be honest 200/ h but has no reviews surprisingly, that's why didn't take her. But she resembles Kate Winslet and looks so fucking beautiful. How come no one has tapped that if she's real. Can any bro shed light on if she's real? I might visit Lisbon just to meet her if she's genuine. LOL.
Cheers mates!
Sinner.
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SinnerDeeds: I'm glad you managed one good encounter. And thanks for reporting on Mara Freitas. The locals jumped to the conclusion that the Freitas girls were the rebranded Simoes girls. They must be dead wrong, since your report is day to night from theirs.
FranziSkore: I urge you to contact Patricia Navarro now. She is exactly what you want (or very nearly so), and asks only 120/ h. However, she is very popular, so getting on her schedule requires advance planning. The sooner you ask, the better your chances.
To expand your options, look at Eller Rocha, Mel Pires and Eva Sanchez (all three on Apartadox).
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Rebeca Diniz
A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.
The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.
I wish of course that I could post a link.
But she has not run an ad for a good long time.
The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.
I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.
I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.
That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.
She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider.
I had contacted her several months before my trip, and instead of blowing me off like most providers do when I contact them well in advance, she accepted a booking and put it in her calendar. She is very prompt and responsive to messages, and she speaks and writes fluent English. She contacted me a week before, then a day before the appointment, to reconfirm.
The price for a 1. 5 hour outcall was 300 euros. I believe she has a lower price for incall. I met her in the hotel lobby and she communicated her travel progress.
The professionalism alone would be sufficient to give me an erection, but her looks and body and performance were just as good.
She is part Portuguese and part African. Skin is dark like a Brazilian, but she isn't a Brazilian. Long curly hair with the prominent nose of a Portuguese lady. I found her facially pretty in an exotic way. The usual caveat that Portuguese and African women are not beautiful if your ideal of beauty is a Scandinavian blonde with a narrow, elongated nose.
Relatively large natural breasts and a curvy bottom. No stomach fat. I am guessing mid to late 20's for age but I didn't ask. Dark skinned ladies age well and it is hard to guess their age.
Now for the session information.
I have the bad habit of not starting with kissing, given my affinity for other female body parts, but she wanted to make sure I knew that she offers that, so I soon did the more traditional GFE start with her. I realize that my reviews can be awkward for those into more normal activities.
There wasn't anything off limits. BBBJ, DATY, vaginal and anal digits (with lube of course). BBBJ has great technique, including good use of hands. She is fun loving and fetish friendly (light spanking at least, give and / or receive). I am pretty sure that anal is usually available, but you should have course ask. For whatever reason, both of my cums were vaginal doggie style. She was tight and inviting and the view was great. She was okay with me using the condoms I brought, but I used her's for one of the cums and they were very good, thin ones.
She meets that elusive category of a lady who clearly likes sex. I asked her to bring a toy, and she came once with that, and said she came once from the long DATY portion of the session.
No fake moaning or anything irritating like that. She knows when to be quiet and when to talk. She is clearly intelligent and interesting and carried a great conversation in English. The time absolutely flew by.
I am so happy I actually got to see the lady the always unhappy guys on the local board actually like and rave about.
She also gets a very high recommendation from me. The perfect girl for an English speaking tourist to see for a taste of Portugal and Africa.
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Sara Valente
Here is my fourth review of Sara Valente.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/es/escort-lujo-sara-valente-2534[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
I was supposed to see Joana Montenegro, who gets so many great reviews on so many different review boards, including for many of my favorite session activities.
But such is life with Escort Privada. They had confirmed Joana, but the night before the afternoon appointment, I was informed that Joana would not be able to leave her "civilian" job to do the afternoon session. Among the suggested alternatives was Sara Valente, who is one of my favorites. All but one of my sessions with Sara have been late morning or early afternoon sessions. When Sara has a day off from her "civilian job" she makes herself available and she actually shows up on time. She is one of the most, if not the most, dependable ladies at EP. If she says she will be there, she will be there.
I am glad I saw her again. It was one of the better sessions I have had with her.
I genuinely thought she looked better this time than any of the other times I have seen her.
She is wearing her hair differently, and it really compliments her face. I find her pretty. I know many other reviewers do not, but as I said, I thought she was facially prettier this time than the other times I have seen her. She is likely 30 or so. I first saw her eight or so years ago, and she was early 20's then.
She is slimmer and more athletic in build than before, as a recent review indicates. But the breasts are still large. In fact the breasts (and body) are exactly as depicted in the Apartadox as linked above. Even the slightly elongated areolas. The combination of a slight lift procedure and her weight loss eliminated any hint of breast stretch marks that some reviewers long ago complained about. To me, they are simply great breasts.
She is perfectly fluent in English and friendly. She is more self-confident than she was years ago, and talks more than she did the first time I saw her.
All the standard GFE activities are performed, kissing, DATY, vaginal digits, and of course BBBJ.
She in fact does the best BBBJ of any provider I have ever been with. If a nuclear war were to start and we all knew we had 15 minutes before The End, my wish would be to spend those 15 minutes getting oral sex from Sara Valente. Of course that probably wouldn't be how she would want to spend her last 15 minutes. She understands the penis and where to use her mouth and hands and how much saliva to use and how pressure to apply. I am so tired of getting bad oral from silly ladies who watch porn and think it matters how much they deep throat. Half the goddamn reason that porn shows that is it keeps the male porn actor from cumming before the filming time is finished since he can't feel anything while deep throating occurs. Sorry I digressed, but Sara is the best in the world at doing oral in my opinion. She knows how to do it.
I had a 1. 5 hour session with her and the first cum was vaginal doggie style (she is very tight), and the second cum was from her excellent BBBJ / hand job.
She likes sex and said she came from a toy. She uses a condom on the sex toy, which is of course fine with me.
I had a great time with her as always and highly recommend her.
Now for the negatives, which is really negatives of EP rather than Sara.
Anal sex and anal play were not available with Sara. No big deal.
There have been sessions I had with her where those were available (she seemed to not remember that, which is fine since I naturally remember her more than she remembers me). Each time I have seen her, less anal activities have been available.
So really, they should take anything anal related off her ad.
She declined any interest in fetish or BDSM related activities when I asked. That is fine since I had a wonderful time with her. But her Apartadox ad occasionally appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. I don't know why.
This is not the first time I have seen this happen. In Porto I saw a lady from EP whose ad had full-fledged fetish outfits. I asked about those activities and I could tell she was completely inexperienced in those endeavors so I didn't pursue it. She said she loved the photo shoot and thought it was fun. I guess the thought that the pictures might be indicative of service offerings does not always occur to EP and some of the ladies. Same with the extras featured in the EP ads.
So reviews are very important and I thank everyone for their reviews. A very good recent review indicated that Marcela Moniz of EP enthusiastically accepted a hand spanking and enjoyed anal sex. If those activities are desired, that review tells us more than any EP or Apartadox ads. Don't expect these activities from Sara. Sara excels at what she excels at.
And don't get your heart set too much on seeing a particular provider at EP. Just make a list of the best reviewed ladies and choose from them with the realization that last minute changes might well occur. Sara incidentally does a lot of EP threesomes and confirmed that Joana Montenegro is an excellent provider.
EP has its good and bad points. We just have to accept that, pay more attention to trusted reviews than to their ads, and be happy with what we get.
The takeaway is that I continue to highly recommend Sara Valente and had a great time.
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Sara Valente & Rebeca Diniz
Thank you Mongerer88 for the reports on Sara and Rebeca. I'm going over for a very short trip soon and Rebeca Diniz is certainly on my list. Its hard to believe how someone can have so many positive reviews in a relative short period of time! Out of curiosity, was there anything about her incall location which put you off, or do you prefer outcalls? (I prefer outcalls myself, but a 50 difference in rate gives me a bit of a decision to make).
You clearly like Sara, but her reviews on the local board have been mixed over time as you've previously mentioned. However, the last report was 3 years ago. A fairy experienced reviewer on the uk board also wasn't that enthused with her when he saw her, but that too was around 3 years ago.
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Thank you
Thank you very much Mongerer88, I have to try Rebecca also.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2811908]A couple of reports of mine from a recent trip.
The highlight of my trip was Rebeca Diniz, who goes by Becky.
I wish of course that I could post a link.
But she has not run an ad for a good long time.
The good news is that she is accepting new customers who contact her via WhatsApp. She just doesn't run an ad because she is getting plenty of business from regulars and referrals.
I will post a link when she runs a new ad, but anyone is welcome to PM me here for contact information.
I got intrigued when she got about ten reviews on the local board that were all 9's and 10's out of 10.
That is unheard of on the local board, which has more negativism than most review boards.
She deserves those high marks. She is a tremendous provider...[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2812122]Thank you Mongerer88 for the reports on Sara and Rebeca. I'm going over for a very short trip soon and Rebeca Diniz is certainly on my list. Its hard to believe how someone can have so many positive reviews in a relative short period of time! Out of curiosity, was there anything about her incall location which put you off, or do you prefer outcalls? (I prefer outcalls myself, but a 50 difference in rate gives me a bit of a decision to make).
You clearly like Sara, but her reviews on the local board have been mixed over time as you've previously mentioned. However, the last report was 3 years ago. A fairy experienced reviewer on the uk board also wasn't that enthused with her when he saw her, but that too was around 3 years ago.[/QUOTE]I prefer outcall for anything other than 30 minute sessions. I like to comfortably go to the bathroom when I want.
I really thought that Sara was prettier this time than in years past. New hairstyle, weight loss, and who knows, she might have gotten a few things tweaked cosmetically. I had no complaints on her looks. The only disappointment was anything anal being firmly off the menu.
I would have preferred to have tried Joana, but EP is unpredictable. A Canadian reviewer just did some excellent Lisbon reviews on a local Canadian review board, and he really liked Joana Montenegro. Joana and Rebeca Diniz have a way of making every customer happy.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2811837]FranziSkore: I urge you to contact Patricia Navarro now. She is exactly what you want (or very nearly so), and asks only 120/ h. However, she is very popular, so getting on her schedule requires advance planning. The sooner you ask, the better your chances.
To expand your options, look at Eller Rocha, Mel Pires and Eva Sanchez (all three on Apartadox).[/QUOTE]Gracias! ExExpatriate, it means a lot. Texted Patricia and she is hot even writing, seems we can meet easily (although only set meetings on the same day) Seems exactly what we mean Saw that Mel Pires is a impressive beauty too, and perfect to balance from curvy carioca to sporty killer abs. I trust your advice, but would like to read some review with her too. Have her on Whatsapp ready to set a meeting too. In Spain the weather is crazy hot, the end of the world. Hope there not that much or I could die from sexual batucada.
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Congrats on Patricia! The locals have complained frequently of late that she is hard to book with. Maybe that was rotten luck or she is ignoring certain numbers. Who knows? Glad you booked her.
Mel Pires has some local reviews, all from 2-3 years ago. She scored two 9's, two 8's and a 6. She ran ads with her face on display back then, and was quite a looker. She then disappeared for about a year, and returned several months ago. The current ad is from her returned photoshoot; it's not an old one.
She should be in her late 30's now. She does (did) anal, OWO and DFK, and the reviews all note that she is relaxed about time.
[QUOTE=FranziSkore;2812167]Gracias! ExExpatriate, it means a lot. Texted Patricia and she is hot even writing, seems we can meet easily (although only set meetings on the same day) Seems exactly what we mean Saw that Mel Pires is a impressive beauty too, and perfect to balance from curvy carioca to sporty killer abs. I trust your advice, but would like to read some review with her too. Have her on Whatsapp ready to set a meeting too. In Spain the weather is crazy hot, the end of the world. Hope there not that much or I could die from sexual batucada.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks. I contacted Rebeca and she confirmed that she charges 50 per hour more for the outcalls. Anything up to a 30 e rate difference, I wouldn't even think about it. 50 is a figure which seems to hit my decision making nodes. Appreciate others have different considerations.
I can understand the Canadian reviewer liking Joana Montenegro, based on other reviews. She is also another who I've wanted to see but schedules never matched when I was in Lisbon last time. She only had availability after 9 pm for several days on end.
The Canadian reviewer also refers to Soraia Albuquerque as having "one of, if not the best, natural body I have ever seen on a woman". That was a reminder to me about everyone having different tastes and seeing things differently!
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2812158]I prefer outcall for anything other than 30 minute sessions. I like to comfortably go to the bathroom when I want.
I really thought that Sara was prettier this time than in years past. New hairstyle, weight loss, and who knows, she might have gotten a few things tweaked cosmetically. I had no complaints on her looks. The only disappointment was anything anal being firmly off the menu.
I would have preferred to have tried Joana, but EP is unpredictable. A Canadian reviewer just did some excellent Lisbon reviews on a local Canadian review board, and he really liked Joana Montenegro. Joana and Rebeca Diniz have a way of making every customer happy.[/QUOTE]
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Rebecca Diniz is yet another one of the highly rated, (formerly) ad-verified ladies charging 150/ h incall. Or at least she was when she had the ad. The local reviews place her as starting at 120 early on and being at 150 ever since.
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Visit to Lisbon
Hello everybody.
This is my first post here. I am planning a visit to Lisbon next month around the 20th. I've been doing some research for quite some time now for girls that provide incall and mainly Rubia M caught my attention (she looks so fine with her redhead). Lately I've seen that she is no longer active on the majority of her ads. Anyone please knows of she is still available in Lisbon or at least been with her lately and can provide some infos?
I would appreciate your help.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi Alex.
Since you expressed an interest in gingers, I'm going to zero in on that.
Rafaela Alberquerque has fairly good reviews, but her photoshoot isn't recent. So, minor warning there:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=597[/URL]
Victoria here is an EP girl, so outcall-only. She used to be Joana Ouro, and has a track record going back a few years that is mixed. Some give her high marks and some low.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-victoria-saraiva-6808[/URL]
These two, Isis and Jade, are massagistas. Both have recent photos and get very high marks for their nuru massage performance. BUT, neither does oral or FS. They are HJ only.
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1123-jade-liz-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
And finally there are couple more redheads I can recommend, but they are out in Cascais.
[QUOTE=AlexGreen;2812570]Hello everybody.
This is my first post here. I am planning a visit to Lisbon next month around the 20th. I've been doing some research for quite some time now for girls that provide incall and mainly Rubia M caught my attention (she looks so fine with her redhead). Lately I've seen that she is no longer active on the majority of her ads. Anyone please knows of she is still available in Lisbon or at least been with her lately and can provide some infos?
I would appreciate your help.
Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]
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Good day ExExpatriate.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Perhaps I should've been more specific in my initial post, the type of girl I'm looking for doesn't have to be a ginger necessarily. Let's say I just need a woman who's nice and honest prior to the meeting on what she does / doesn't do so the session flows smoothly. Here is a short list of the fundamental criteria I'm most interested in:
- white curvy girl particularly with thick ass (not saggy though).
- incall is a must, preferably 120 per hour (can go up to 150 if no choice).
- has in particular beautiful feet as I'm a fetish guy.
- essential services: the girl has to be able to give good BJ, good kisses, receive cunnilingus and rimming.
- other practices (not a must but nice to have) : titjob & massage.
Girls who have caught my attention after doing some homework are: Yu ferracini, Lara Silva (what do you think?) & obviously Rubia M. BTW if anyone been with Rubia lately or knows if she still is available in Lisbon I would be very thankful to hear about it.
If you have any other suggestions, please share with me.
I appreciate your help. I must also add These kind of threads help so much to avoid scams.
Kind regards.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2812736]Hi Alex.
Since you expressed an interest in gingers, I'm going to zero in on that.
Rafaela Alberquerque has fairly good reviews, but her photoshoot isn't recent. So, minor warning there:
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=597[/URL]
Victoria here is an EP girl, so outcall-only. She used to be Joana Ouro, and has a track record going back a few years that is mixed. Some give her high marks and some low.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-victoria-saraiva-6808[/URL]
These two, Isis and Jade, are massagistas. Both have recent photos and get very high marks for their nuru massage performance. BUT, neither does oral or FS. They are HJ only..[/QUOTE]
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Hi all
Hi all and thanks for the information that everyone has posted, it has been very helpful. I'm visiting Lisbon next week and I have found some ladies I'm going to try and meet thanks to the feedback from everyone here, so I will be reporting my findings good or bad when I'm done. I just have a question, is there any strip clubs worth visiting in Lisbon? And is there any strip clubs that offer extras or is there a possibility of extras at all at strip clubs? Or is it best to just stick to escortprivada. Thanks again.
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Some trustable girl with good English or Spanish. Bad experience with Brazil, Evelyn
Ol. ExExpatriate and everyone. Still can't finally have a meeting with Patricia Navarro. No reply since first talking. :
" my socializing.
I start with a very affectionate and relaxing massage, depending on your hygiene, I do a natural oral, if you are in a good mood you have a second chance.
My hours are from 10 am to 22 pm, but availability is flexible. Please make an appointment 30 minutes to 1 hour in advance.
My values 8203;are 120 One hour and 70 - 30 min.
I'm on Avenida Joo XXI at the foot of the Areeiro Metro.
Remembering that appointments are made only on the day of the appointment.
Patricia Navarro ".
So here I am tryin these early mornings "Hi, queen, could be today. " But as the rest no response. This system is quite unpractical. Will try 2 more days.
Since other girls (Mel Pires and Gaby Andrade) were also no responding and the day was running I panicked and I booked.
*Evelyn Clifford a. K. a Melissa. *.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/melissa/511826/?list=fa1tri[/URL]
I will elaborate the review later but I can say that:
- Impossible communication. Zero English (zero zero), zero Spanish. I have zero Brazilian portuguese, ok, but I don' t lie and charge.
- 30 min of waiting on the street, then super small room, zero apologizes.
- She did chat with some translator or someone did it for her (agency type).
- Services, she wrote and I asked explicit:
". Extra-ball for 1 hour service.
Reality: no kisses, not even in neck, no natural oral, and specially no extra-ball as I asked about.
Always the same trouble, even if I tried to avoid it by any means! Only 25 min after payed for 1 hour.
Positive:
Spectacular body and face. Sporty, tanned, superfitted and hard, abs, muscles, perfect proportions. As good as photos. Looks even younger. At least I started with a deep massage in her, with good response with lots of deep fingering. So I mapped from head to toe. That was very good. At least body language. 15 min. Then some titfuck, 3 minutes oral (covered. By surprise) . She started to act not so friendly, too mechanical and impatient to finish and not about getting pleasure. I asked to keep slow and sensual. I was overexcited, but, damn, also her vagina was pure power, superhot, tight and muscle but she did ride me wilder. So I did cum. Party is over, go home boy. Tried to negociate to stay, cuddling or whatever but NO mercy. A bummer.
Started wondering if I have some premature problems (happened to me 50- 50 times with escorts.).
WHATEVER. Anyway:
Please help, amigos. Need one with good English or Spanish (much better option) and TRUSTABLE with services and times and attitude. Don't want same issues. And will book only 30 m and, if good, 30 m more. Incall.
Sara Valente told me only outcall.
Eva Sanchez replied but, seems mixing languages, like the other:
"Si en Avenida de Roma. 30 min /80 1 h /150 oral, vaginal, bano a dos e massaje" (sounds quite mechanical.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/es/acompanante-lujo-eva-sanchez-2320[/URL]
He marks 4 languages. :/ As she is Portuguese maybe can be better, more education, than cariocas.
Any experience from some from abroad? With her or others.
Specially with the cum + go home shit?
Sorry for the extension. Needed to tell someone.
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Having read about the strip and sex clubs from the locals for years, I chose to bypass them completely. Taking a girl back to your room is as expensive or more expensive than asking a primarily incall girl to do outcall. And that is just the gilding on top of door charge and overpriced drinks.
Unless you enjoy the format enough that you don't mind paying for the privilege, skip it.
[QUOTE=ArtMorg88;2812858]Hi all and thanks for the information that everyone has posted, it has been very helpful. I'm visiting Lisbon next week and I have found some ladies I'm going to try and meet thanks to the feedback from everyone here, so I will be reporting my findings good or bad when I'm done. I just have a question, is there any strip clubs worth visiting in Lisbon? And is there any strip clubs that offer extras or is there a possibility of extras at all at strip clubs? Or is it best to just stick to escortprivada. Thanks again.[/QUOTE]
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Local Board cynicism of Canadian review
The Canadian reviewer chose to place his positive (8/10 score) review of Soraia Albuquerque on the local board, and true to form someone has immediately commented to claim that it's self-promotion and the review should be dismissed!!
Aside from the cynicism, the board is heavily moderated and very strict on criteria for both reviews and other things. They also regularly delete a number of comments, for example Rebeca Diniz had some negative comments about her deleted prior to the flurry of positive reviews.
On the Canadian forum the reviewer even ranked each of the girls he saw, in different categories, and Soraia was generally ranked in the middle. However, he has only chosen to place Soraia's review on the local board. If the local board members were aware of that, the page may crash with the number of doubting comments!
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2812399]Thanks. I contacted Rebeca and she confirmed that she charges 50 per hour more for the outcalls. Anything up to a 30 e rate difference, I wouldn't even think about it. 50 is a figure which seems to hit my decision making nodes. Appreciate others have different considerations.
I can understand the Canadian reviewer liking Joana Montenegro, based on other reviews. She is also another who I've wanted to see but schedules never matched when I was in Lisbon last time. She only had availability after 9 pm for several days on end.
The Canadian reviewer also refers to Soraia Albuquerque as having "one of, if not the best, natural body I have ever seen on a woman". That was a reminder to me about everyone having different tastes and seeing things differently![/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2813021]The Canadian reviewer chose to place his positive (8/10 score) review of Soraia Albuquerque on the local board, and true to form someone has immediately commented to claim that it's self-promotion and the review should be dismissed!!
Aside from the cynicism, the board is heavily moderated and very strict on criteria for both reviews and other things. They also regularly delete a number of comments, for example Rebeca Diniz had some negative comments about her deleted prior to the flurry of positive reviews.
On the Canadian forum the reviewer even ranked each of the girls he saw, in different categories, and Soraia was generally ranked in the middle. However, he has only chosen to place Soraia's review on the local board. If the local board members were aware of that, the page may crash with the number of doubting comments![/QUOTE]I think it is a pricing thing.
As I said previously, when I asked Sara Valente once about the local board she said a lot of the negative reviews are fake.
She actually worked independently in her very early 20's under a different name before joining EP and was the little princess in her first few reviews at the very old price structure almost a decade ago at the 70/120 euro range, but when she joined EP at the 150 per hour mark, the reviews there changed.
It is really the same with Kelly Morais. As I mentioned before, he said she was one of the best escorts he has ever been with and I very much trust his opinion. But her rates are a little bit higher than the 70/120 incall that many locals want to draw a line in the sand on, so they call her fat. The only thing fat on her apparently are her large breasts.
Of course it is the same story with Caroline Belmont, although the criticism of her being one and done for an hour block is warranted. But she is exceptionally foreigner friendly, which some of the guys on that board don't like.
I don't remember the negative comments about Rebeca Diniz, but it had to be related to pricing. Her 250 incall, 300 outcall for an hour and a half is a little bit higher than "standard". It was certainly worth it to me, but if she started at that pricing, I suspect some of the locals on that board objected. She is a good businesswoman who wants repeat customers and referrals. She even told me she has regulars (likely retirees) and arranges her schedule to go see them. See'Mon., she can't cover the cost of traveling unless she charges them a reasonable amount. And if they can retire abroad, they have some money.
It is the oldest story in the world. If prices never increase, you don't get new talent, particularly young talent. If the price of every lady is the same, there is less motivation to perform. We see it here on ISG in the German FKK forum. Some guys want 50 euro BBBJ included prices, then complain if the only ladies offering it are old, unmotivated hags.
The damndest thing is that there is no country in mainland Europe that is friendlier than Portugal in terms of giving better service to foreigners and switching automatically to English when speaking at restaurants, hotels, and shops. So a few guys on that local board who don't want prices to increase during an entire decade and don't like it when an escort markets herself to tourists as well as to locals aren't indicative of the country itself.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2813015]Having read about the strip and sex clubs from the locals for years, I chose to bypass them completely. Taking a girl back to your room is as expensive or more expensive than asking a primarily incall girl to do outcall. And that is just the gilding on top of door charge and overpriced drinks.
Unless you enjoy the format enough that you don't mind paying for the privilege, skip it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. I think I will take your advice and skip them and just focus on incall or outcall. I have just a couple of questions for anyone. I am new to this, and I'm just wondering if I have someone visit my hotel for an outcall do I meet them in the hotel lobby or bar, or do I just give them my room number and wait for them there? Also do I pay before or after the deed is done? I've punted a couple of times in the UK and have always paid upfront, just wondering what's acceptable in Lisbon.
I'd like to thank everyone on here again, I have gathered so many names of girls I'd like to see thanks to the feedback. Much appreciated.
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The local board has an above average proportion of at ssholes in residence. And the admins / mods have a crap attitude. It's why I stopped participating ages ago.
Generally speaking, even the best girls hate that board and the regulars on it. I don't know that most of the bad reviews are fake, but I believe there are just as many fake negative reviews written by vengeful johns as there are fake positives written by escorts. And God forbid if you are a newbie and write a positive review on your first outing or if you are a foreigner and have anything less than perfect, Luso-style Portuguese.
At ssholes. Really.
But, those at ssholes are still the best single source of information on their particular scene. You just need to be mindful of their particular flaws.
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[QUOTE=ArtMorg88;2813071]Thanks for the reply. I think I will take your advice and skip them and just focus on incall or outcall. I have just a couple of questions for anyone. I am new to this, and I'm just wondering if I have someone visit my hotel for an outcall do I meet them in the hotel lobby or bar, or do I just give them my room number and wait for them there? Also do I pay before or after the deed is done? I've punted a couple of times in the UK and have always paid upfront, just wondering what's acceptable in Lisbon [/QUOTE]When to pay is up to the lady in question. Usually it is done after, but some want it upfront. The latter doesn't necessarily mean anything betond their preference. I typically leave the money in sight and out on a tabletop, under a cup, so it can be retrieved discretely later. But because of that, I've had outcall girls leave TWICE having forgot their fee. Haha!
I've had to message them to come back and meet them on my own way out. Because I'm honest that way, which they appreciated. And showed me as much next time around.
Now, how outcall works depends on the elevator of your hotel. If the elevator is keycard locked, you meet her in the lobby. She may be there or waiting just outside. If the elevator is unlocked, she will come straight to your door. Portugal is relaxed about that. Nobody will bother her or you.
Incall escorts typically have their studios in ordinary office and apartment buildings. So, you'll be told an approximate address. When you arrive, you'll be told the specifics and buzzed in. When you get to the right floor, she'll be waiting behind a slightly open door.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2813088]When to pay is up to the lady in question. Usually it is done after, but some want it upfront. The latter doesn't necessarily mean anything betond their preference. I typically leave the money in sight and out on a tabletop, under a cup, so it can be retrieved discretely later. But because of that, I've had outcall girls leave TWICE having forgot their fee. Haha!
I've had to message them to come back and meet them on my own way out. Because I'm honest that way, which they appreciated. And showed me as much next time around.
Now, how outcall works depends on the elevator of your hotel. If the elevator is keycard locked, you meet her in the lobby. She may be there or waiting just outside. If the elevator is unlocked, she will come straight to your door. Portugal is relaxed about that. Nobody will bother her or you.
Incall escorts typically have their studios in ordinary office and apartment buildings. So, you'll be told an approximate address. When you arrive, you'll be told the specifics and buzzed in. When you get to the right floor, she'll be waiting behind a slightly open door.[/QUOTE]Thanks again sir, much appreciated. Yeah I definitely would of done the same in your situation, the girl has worked for that money.
I have been reading back on some older posts in the thread, and I came across you talking about Isis. Massage is not something I thought about too much, but this girl sounds intriguing going off what you and others have said. I have messaged her to hopefully arrange a date and time.
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Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon
Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.
After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore. Since you can't guarantee that a specific girl will be available on a specific day, I created a long list with backup options. Most of the action in Lisbon (and Portugal in general) is independent escorts that advertise on two primary websites, Escort Privada and Apartadox. The girls on Escort Privada go to your hotel and charge 150 Euros per hour which usually includes DFK and BBBJ / CIM. The girls on Apartadox are a little cheaper at 120 Euros per hour and work out of "trick pads" or their own apartment. The Apartadox girls seem to have a shorter workday, often ending by 6 pm. That makes daytime tourism activities more difficult. Most Escort Privada girls were able to come to my hotel at 8 pm for 2 hours, which worked better with my schedule.
Here is my list of GOOD girls most of whom speak English, with at least one positive review somewhere, and girls with multiple * are girls that had many positive reviews:
*Flora Neves.
*Becky Rebeca Diniz.
*Camila Pereira fluent english smoker.
*Margarida Vaz.
*Irina Melo.
*Eva Branco.
*Joana Montenegro.
*Bela Soares.
*Kelly Morais.
*Sara valente.
*Debora Dias.
Sasha Fire.
*Aurora Alfaiate.
*Marta Castro.
*Soraia Albuquerque.
*Luna Cardoso.
*Adriana Santos.
*Marcela Moniz NO English.
Bia Santos NO English.
Carolina Belmont.
Tati Bernardi.
Amalia Leal.
Isabella Fiorentini.
Andreia Martins NO English.
Vanessa Morais.
Maju Rossi NO English.
I booked a hotel near Rossio train station and used Uber or walked everywhere. I had no problem with having girls as guests to my room. I never received a call from the front desk or any complaints, unlike some destinations in the Latin American world. All of the Escort Privada girls wanted me to send a picture of my "check-in card" from the hotel, the one that lists the dates of your stay and the room number. I took a picture and cropped it to remove my real name, then sent it. All communication was via WhatsApp. The EP girls were mostly very prompt. One girl was late by about 15 minutes, but she didn't try to leave before the end of the full 2 hour appointment.
Most Uber rides were 4-6 Euros to most destinations in the city. The roads are windy and steep and the traffic is slow, so if you plan to use Apartadox and see girls in their apartments, make sure you give yourself enough travel time. Unlike Barcelona or New York, for example, I didn't really see many gorgeous women walking around. The working girls in Lisbon were attractive, but not runway models. Maybe the better looking women live near the beach.
Lisbon is great for a guy traveling alone. It would be difficult if you were traveling with a wingman, since the best venue in Lisbon (independent escorts) aren't a shared experience like agogos in Thailand or FKK clubs in Germany. Even the brothels in Spain work better than Lisbon for a trip with a buddy.
The independent escorts of Lisbon don't usually show their faces in their ads, so the moment that you open your hotel door can be nerve-wracking. I was always worried that the girl would be a real dog, but thankfully never had that experience. These seem to be mostly the "girl next door" types who are doing sex work on the side. Most of them probably only see one client a day a few days a week. From what I've read, this low mileage approach is similar to Seeking. The girls are less jaded, less mechanical, and more "real", which I really liked.
Other than scouring EP and Apartadox, you should also use Google translate to read the local review board. I could not find a search function and you have to register (for free) in order to read reviews, but it was otherwise fairly easy to navigate. Most of the local guys have a tight budget and prefer short appointments in trick pads, thus avoiding the cost of a hotel room. It appears that the Escort Privada girls are really targeting the upscale international traveler who has already incurred the cost of a hotel. My goal was to find younger slimmer natural girls without silicone or tattoos who provide the "college girlfriend experience" with DFK / BBBJ / CIM who spoke English. That narrowed down my search pretty dramatically. If you compare Escorts Privada to Apartadox, EP has a fairly small stable of girls. Apartadox has tons. I was willing to pay the 30 Euro premium for Escorts Privada so that the girls would come to my hotel. If I were on a tighter budget or wanted a wider variety of girls, I would turn my attention to Apartadox. If I were in Lisbon for a few weeks, I would run out of new options on EP.
The local board:
[URL]http://gp-pt.net/[/URL]
More important than finding girls that are good, make sure you avoid the bad girls. I was fortunate that my research paid off and none of my girls were disasters. Here is a list I compiled from reading many reviews.
BAD Girls to AVOID:
Sofia Andrade.
Giovana Bragana.
Bianca Brandao worst BBBJ ever.
Jade Bueno.
Rita Campos.
Catarina Fortes.
Vanessa Figueriredo.
Barbara Gouveia.
Monica Vera Guerra.
Tita Impanema.
Frederica Lima.
Lara Lima.
Samanta Lima.
Monica Melo.
Mafalda Melo.
Julia Nobrega.
Debora Pires.
Diana Real.
Matilde Ribeiro.
Anita Rocha.
Catarina Rodriguez.
Rafeala de Sa.
Olivia Sampaio.
Eva Santos.
Angelica Silva.
Iris Simoes.
Tatiana Souza.
Mia Tavares.
Mia Verissimo.
Catarina Rodriguez bad breath.
Maria Conceicao herpes.
Links to the top "photo verified" sites:
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/escort-classifieds-Lisbon-Portugal[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/[/URL]
[URL]https://docemassagem.com[/URL]
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino[/URL]
[URL]https://www.momentosdeprazer.com/Acompanhantes/Portugal[/URL]
My reviews:
Aurora Alfaiate: 24 yo slim part European Portuguese and part Cape Verdean with delicate cafe au lait features and fluffy curly long dark hair. Holding her hair in my hands was like holding lambs wool, it was so soft and fluffy. She has a half dozen small tattoos and perfectly shaped small breasts. Her pictures are accurate, but the tattoos have been photoshopped out. She has a slim but shapely petite feminine body. She is not overtly muscular. She is fit and trim. Fully shaved below with full inner labia visible peeking out from between her outer labia. Her ass cheeks fit perfectly in your hand, the curve of her ass is basically perfect. She has some mild to moderate acne scars on her cheeks, which might bother some guys but I barely noticed it because her other features were so pleasing. She responded to DATY, but I could not get her over the line to achieve orgasm despite trying with enthusiasm. No tongue with kissing, which was a bit of a disappointment. Mostly just dry kisses without passion. She speaks English very well. I had to explain an unusual English word to her, but her language ability was quite good. She was fairly quiet and a little awkward in the beginning of our meeting and I think she would be more successful and personally engaged as an escort if she started each of her appointments with a ten minute "meet and greet", maybe have a drink or coffee at a bar before going up the the room. She seems to need that introduction time to feel comfortable, which is entirely understandable, but hard to justify paying for as the client. Having said that, if escorts didn't charge crazy money for "social" meetings, I would be inclined to meet all new escorts in a cafe or bar near my hotel for a few minutes and would be willing to pay a little for that. Per my desire, we had one round of mish, one round of BBBJ / CIM, and one final round of mish. Her BBBJ was occasionally toothy but mostly pretty good. She tried to DT but never made it all the way. I don't think she knows the trick to actually DT for real. She did take my load without pulling away and stayed with me until I was finished and relaxing. She then stood up and headed to the bathroom to wash out her mouth. She was fairly passive overall, which wasn't a major problem for me. I did not ask for anal. I did not ask for multiple positions, since she was very open and took me all the way deep in mish. I felt like I didn't need any other positions, since mish was so deep and complete. This was a 2 hour appointment and she stayed basically the entire time with no clock watching. 150 Euro per hour and she came directly to my hotel room. She was very discreet on arrival. She checked her phone once when I was showering. Otherwise, she was focused on having sex. All in all, it was a positive experience. My recommendations for improvement would be: kisses with tongue and taking the lead occasionally and learning the trick for deep throating.
Becky Diniz mid 20's slim part European Portuguese and part Angolan with cafe au lait skin. Like many working girls her age she has a few tattoos, but they weren't too distracting (and I hate tattoos). She has medium sized breasts with responsive nipples. Her english is good. It was seemless to have a conversation with her. She was dressed in a revealing reddish velvet slingshot thong and nothing else. 150 Euro per hour. I spent two hours with her. She charges an extra 50 E per hour (200 Euro per hour total) to go to your hotel and she doesn't advertise. I chose to save 100 Euro and instead spend 5 Euro on Uber. I was given her name and number by a generous member of ISG. She works in a trick pad near Campo Pequeno. She sent me the address via WhatsApp, then when I was downstairs, she sent the apartment number and buzzed me in. The room and shower were clean and tidy with fresh towels. We started with some kissing in the room and then I undressed and headed to the shower. She followed with her own shower after me. I started by softly and slowly stroking her body everywhere, which she really seemed to enjoy, then moved eventually to DATY which she rode to the finish line, then put on a condom and I moved to mish. She used her fingers to stroke herself and came a second time, then I finished for the first time in mish. Chatted for awhile. She mentioned that she really liked my slow gentle pacing. Many guys just want to jack rabbit to the finish, but I like the slow burn build up. It makes the finish line more satisfying. She strongly agreed. Becky is pleasant and well traveled. She showed me the perfume she brought back from Paris. She gave recommendations for restaurants and shopping in Lisbon. For round two, she started with lightly rimming me and BBBJ with DT, then whipped out a butt plug to try on me and combined that with BBBJ. I enjoyed that until I was ready for a condom. She directed me to some nice reverse cowgirl and then I switched is over to mish for the finish. Again, I didn't bother to ask for anal, since that is only of passing interest to me. I have heard that she offers anal. Overall, another very good experience with better kissing than Aurora but similar sex, similar body type, and similar physical connection. I don't think I could give Becky any recommendations for improvement other than maybe more tongue for DFK. I understand that for many girls, that is tough to offer, but when you find one who does, it really makes the experience amazingly good. She was pretty much on point for everything else. I think your individual experience would just depend on whether you found her body type (mixed race spinner) and personality appealing, but I can't really imagine anyone having a bad experience with Becky. She was a very good fit for me.
Eva Branco early 20's. European Portuguese with very pale skin and lots of enticing freckles, curvy but not fat, with gorgeous large breasts. She has an engaging smile and connected with me from the start. Her pictures are accurate except for a few tattoos, but they were not distracting. Shaved down below, and definitely more curvy than the first two slim girls, Aurora and Becky. By fat American standards, Eva is thin, but by European standards she is voluptuous. Either way, she has a gorgeous body and even nicer face and smile. We had both had showers only minutes before meeting, so we jumped into undressing and skipped a pre-sex shower. I enjoyed undressing her slowly and finally unveiling those perfect large natural breasts. She was wearing black bra and g string underwear underneath her very conservative and nondescript street clothes. Moved down to DATY and she was already wet and saline. Booked for 2 hours and paced myself by spending plenty of time in DATY. She is one of those girls who linger near orgasm for a long time. You are convinced that she is right about to come, then minutes go by and you start to wonder if maybe she already did come, then she starts shuddering again. Eventually, I was ready to move on to the main course, but still not sure if she came. I wanted 3 shots in 2 hours, so I had to limit how much time I spent on getting her over the finish line. I finished in mish, had a shower, and chatted with her. Her English is near perfect and she is an educated and intelligent young woman. I rinsed off from round one. We proceeded to BBBJ / CIM and she stayed with me all the way to the end and beyond. She didn't rush to the sink. In fact, I think she just quietly swallowed it. Then we eventually moved to round three with mish again. Of all of the girls I saw in Lisbon, she was the closest to my ideal of "the college girlfriend". She kissed lightly at first, and intensely by the end, with tongue and breathless enthusiasm. She has a "warm fresh baked bread" smell and taste to her skin that I have encountered in girls before. Very pleasant and made me want to wrap myself around her. She took mish as deep as possible and had more than a handful of ass to hold onto. If you like just a little more voluptuous girl and you want young and natural, Eva is your girl. Again, she is absolutely not fat. I lose my erection immediately from fat girls. I think that Eva is still not jaded or cynical. If you are sincere with her and connect with her as a fellow human being, she responds with enthusiasm. I got the impression that she enjoyed our time and was riding a little high and maybe even feeling some emotional confusion, since I wasn't the usual 30 minute pump and dump client, but connecting more like a boyfriend or a first date. What a wonderful girl she is. A real gem. She told me where she worked and invited me to visit her there, which I did later in the week. There was something very hot about seeing her in normal life in her normal clothes performing her job, knowing that we had a special secret together.
Bela Soares 21 yo European Portuguese with cornrow braids and blonde hair (unlike her photos on EP). Great kisser. Very appealing medium size breasts with no tattoos anywhere on her body that I noticed. She must be the only girl under 30 without tattoos in Portugal, or Europe in general for that matter. I don't understand why. I'll be very glad when the obsession with scribbling on beautiful female bodies is over. Bela has robust thick thighs with quite the ass and lots of freckles on her back. Shaved down below, although she had a little stubble which I wasn't fond of. She also had some stubble on her legs below her knees. That made stroking her legs a little less fun. She seemed a tad serious overall at first, but then quickly warmed up to me. She is a college student and came to my hotel right from her classes. I joked with her about my "college girlfriend" fantasies. She fulfills them, just like Eva Branco. Being an old guy having sex with college aged girls is like having a time machine that takes you back to the sexiest time of your life. There is basically nothing better in the world. Bela kissed with enthusiasm and passion and responded with orgasm to my DATY. She wore bright red lipstick which ended up all over both of our faces. She had offered to remove it, but I kinda enjoyed the disarray of lipstick marks and smeared pinkish cheeks. Eventually went three rounds of full service with her. She gave a very good BBBJ and was willing to do CIM, but her mish and doggy was too good for me to finish in her mouth. Instead, I saved all three rounds for the main course, covered full service. Between sessions, she chatted about her difficult childhood and her plans for the future. She is a determined and admirable young woman and is planning to change the world for the better, and given my experience with her, I am confident she will succeed. She doesn't want anyone to have the same crummy childhood experiences that she did, and she wants Portugal to take better care of the elderly. She plans to make fixing these problems her life work. She is beautiful inside and out. She was a pleasure to chat with. Her English was perfectly fine. I would occasionally have to ask her to repeat herself until I understood her pronunciation, but that was very minor. Bela is not a spinner with a tiny ass. She has curves and some thick thighs. Again, I don't mean that in a bad way. She was not remotely fat, just voluptuous. Her ass felt great in my hands as I entered her in mish. She was very proud of how "hot" her vagina could get. She was right. It was her superpower. She was also plenty wet and DATY was a slippery saline hot mouthful. Two hours went by quickly. I could have easily spent more time with her. Another real gem.
Filipa Marques. Mid 20's. Very slim with quite a few tattoos, unfortunately, but none on her chest or ass, thank goodness. She has very sleepy eyes, delicate features, and speaks English with a funny accent. She has small breasts to match her petite physique. She has curly blonde-brown shoulder length hair and a very very subtle smell of smoking. When I contacted her via WhatsApp, she immediately asked if I wanted her to bring a girlfriend. I declined, but thought other ISG members might find that useful info. She was a big kisser right from the start with plenty of tongue and passion. She was a little sweaty from the weather outside, so after undressing, we headed straight to the shower. She was wearing black bra and thong. Like most women with small breasts, she works a lot harder to set the sexy tone of the encounter with stroking and exploring and heavy breathing, unlike a girl with spectacular large breasts who sits and passively watches you worship her body. We moved to DATY, when I noticed a large lumpy tag of skin near her anus. Worried that it might be something serious, I asked her about it. Turns out it has been there since birth and her doctor told her to ignore it. I tried to do the same. She was shaved completely down below and had the tiniest clitoris. I could barely find it or feel it during DATY. She started with BBBJ and does a fairly decent DT. No teeth. We then moved to covered FS and she was active and fun overall. Afterwards, we chatted about her work. She is not a college student. Given her profession, I would guess that she is in her mid to late twenties. The website said 18, which is clearly not true. I don't understand why these websites and girls lie about things like age etc. They are only creating the possibility of disappointment which will make their work less pleasant. The photos aren't accurate either. She looks like she has medium sized breasts in the photos. They are actually pretty small. Anyhow, when I was ready for round two, I told her I was in the mood for prostate massage. She did a combo of soft hands free BBBJ with prostate massage. Her baseline rate for BBBJ is a little too fast for my liking, so I had her slow down. Electrifying finish in her mouth with her fingers in my ass. Cleaned up yet again, and only had 20 minutes left in the 2 hour booking, but I was determined to get one more round squeezed in. It was a struggle to get hard quickly after two long sessions. I think she was amused and skeptical but she didn't complain and I finished one last time in mish. We had a few minutes left and took a quick shower together and I walked her out of the hotel on my way to dinner. Overall, with the tattoos and smoking and her overall presentation, she was too rough around the edges to fit my ideal of an innocent college student, but I can't fault her on service.
In summary, I had two hour appointments with 5 different girls, each costing 300 Euro total, aiming for a "college girlfriend" experience. I would happily repeat any of the 5 girls, but Eva Branco was my favorite. She is a little more voluptuous than my favorite body type, but her personality was the most compelling of the 5 girls. She was authentic and honest and connected with me exactly like a college girlfriend. I believe she was the youngest, although it is always a guess.
TL: DR.
Mongering in Lisbon is easy. Get a decent hotel. Review my list of good girls from Escort Privada. Contact the girl via WhatsApp. Enjoy.
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[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2813127]Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.
After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore.....[/QUOTE]Best post ever!
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Thanks for the review of Filipa Marques. Insofar as I know, that is new ground.
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Visiting Lisbon by Cruise Ship
I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. [URL]lasuitebcn.com/en[/URL], [URL]sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/[/URL], [URL]apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/[/URL]). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?
The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.
Thanks in advance for any help!
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Hello guys.
Can anyone please help on my message below?
As I haven't seen any updates about the availability of Rubia, I am more inclined towards Yu Ferracini, anyone has an idea or a detailed review on her?
Thank you guys.
[QUOTE=AlexGreen;2812747]Good day ExExpatriate.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Perhaps I should've been more specific in my initial post, the type of girl I'm looking for doesn't have to be a ginger necessarily. Let's say I just need a woman who's nice and honest prior to the meeting on what she does / doesn't do so the session flows smoothly. Here is a short list of the fundamental criteria I'm most interested in:
- white curvy girl particularly with thick ass (not saggy though).
- incall is a must, preferably 120 per hour (can go up to 150 if no choice).
- has in particular beautiful feet as I'm a fetish guy.
- essential services: the girl has to be able to give good BJ, good kisses, receive cunnilingus and rimming.
- other practices (not a must but nice to have) : titjob & massage.
Girls who have caught my attention after doing some homework are: Yu ferracini, Lara Silva (what do you think?) & obviously Rubia M. BTW if anyone been with Rubia lately or knows if she still is available in Lisbon I would be very thankful to hear about it.
If you have any other suggestions, please share with me.
I appreciate your help. I must also add These kind of threads help so much to avoid scams.
Kind regards.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=SoftTouch;2813159]I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. [URL]lasuitebcn.com/en[/URL], [URL]sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/[/URL], [URL]apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/[/URL]). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?
The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.
Thanks in advance for any help![/QUOTE]Write down this address. When you go there, ask for the Relaxing Massage.
[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]
Reports vary. Most everyone reports getting laid there, including BBBJ, often including CIM and some guys even get anal.
There is an occasional report of someone just getting a handjob, but a good erotic handjob.
Not a bad idea to send them a WhatsApp message to let them know you are coming, but many reports say the guy just walked up and pressed the buzzer.
A lot of ladies live within 15-30 minutes of this area, so letting them know you are coming and want the Relaxing Massage might increase your chances of getting what you want.
Lisbon and Barcelona are set up a lot differently legally and culturally in terms of commercial sex work.
But Lisbon is a lot easier for the ladies to travel around than Barcelona is.
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You have a good attitude about not wasting the ladies' time with bookings you may not be able to keep.
The first word of advice is location. Your ship will almost certainly dock in Santa Apollonia. The major concentration of incall services are had in an area loosely defined between Marques de Pombal and Entrecampos. You can get to anywhere in that zone by metro, but Santa Apollonia is the south terminus for the blue line. So, expect the ride to central Lisbon to be half an hour each way, give or take.
Do not use an Uber. You'll be cutting through narrow and or congested roads at any time of day, and it will take as long or longer while costing more.
But your other option is the interesting one, because you can just hop on an Uber / taxi and head by major thoroughfare upriver to Expo / Parque das Nacoes. There are a few well-reviewed escorts in that neighborhood, and it would probably be more convenient for you in terms of travel. It would therefore also narrow down who you might start reaching out to when you know what you can do.
The closest thing to what you describe for Barcelona are the erotic/nuru spas, but most of them are HJ-only establishments.
[QUOTE=SoftTouch;2813159]I will soon be visiting Lisbon on a cruise ship for one day departing around 6 PM. I may have several hours in the afternoon (between say 1 PM and 4:30 PM) where I should have some free time for our favourite hobby, by incall. Unfortunately I will not know for sure until the last minute. In Barcelona, they have incall venues (eg. [URL]lasuitebcn.com/en[/URL], [URL]sugargirls.es/escorts-barcelona/[/URL], [URL]apricots.es/en/escorts-barcelona/[/URL]). Google search Barcelona brothels for more) with several girls available where you can choose your lady. Perfect for my situation. Do such places exist in Lisbon? Any suggestions?
The last few pages of this forum have a great deal of excellent info on independent ladies some of whom have incall facilities. Unfortunately I cannot in all conscience make an appointment in advance as I think it is 50/50 chance I would have to cancel. Nor do I think I have the time to be messaging multiple ladies at the last minute trying to find someone who is available.
Thanks in advance for any help![/QUOTE]
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Hey everyone! First time poster here!
Anyone got any info on Brenda Novaes? Link: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-brenda-novaes-7689[/URL].
I was unable to find anything about her on this site and the local forum is a nightmare to sort through.
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Have there been any recent reports either here on the local board of people getting full service there?
I've had a browse of the local board and can't find anything in the last few years, although the massage section isn't referenced too well. Perhaps some ladies are on other sites such as Apartadox and reports are therefore in the escorts sections? (I know other massage establishments with ladies on Apartadox but haven't come across any from the Nuruspa).
I went to this place myself in September and had no luck trying to get FS, however I don't think I emphasised enough the 'relaxing' massage. On reflection, I actually got a pretty bad service with a lady called Alysha, who is no longer there. I received neither an erotic massage nor any full service. She wouldn't even allow sucking her breasts!
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2813315]Write down this address. When you go there, ask for the Relaxing Massage.
[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]
Reports vary. Most everyone reports getting laid there, including BBBJ, often including CIM and some guys even get anal.
There is an occasional report of someone just getting a handjob, but a good erotic handjob.
Not a bad idea to send them a WhatsApp message to let them know you are coming, but many reports say the guy just walked up and pressed the buzzer.
A lot of ladies live within 15-30 minutes of this area, so letting them know you are coming and want the Relaxing Massage might increase your chances of getting what you want.
Lisbon and Barcelona are set up a lot differently legally and culturally in terms of commercial sex work.
But Lisbon is a lot easier for the ladies to travel around than Barcelona is.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2813387]Have there been any recent reports either here on the local board of people getting full service there?
I've had a browse of the local board and can't find anything in the last few years, although the massage section isn't referenced too well. Perhaps some ladies are on other sites such as Apartadox and reports are therefore in the escorts sections? (I know other massage establishments with ladies on Apartadox but haven't come across any from the Nuruspa).
I went to this place myself in September and had no luck trying to get FS, however I don't think I emphasised enough the 'relaxing' massage. On reflection, I actually got a pretty bad service with a lady called Alysha, who is no longer there. I received neither an erotic massage nor any full service. She wouldn't even allow sucking her breasts![/QUOTE]Sorry I forgot about your negative experience there.
The place gets somewhat mixed reviews on Google, some of which are recent, because they try to be everything to everyone without running afoul of the law.
In one room, they will have someone who wants CIM and full service, while in another room they will have someone, including couples, who want a regular massage that is just a bit sexual.
So some things will fall through the cracks, as apparently it did with you.
But we won't be able to give the poster SoftTouch exactly what he wants, which is the published address of a true brothel. So I tried to get as close as possible.
ExExpatriate is correct that the best approach would be to hang out in a neighborhood where there are a lot of incalls and hope a lady is available on short notice.
However, reading between the lines, perhaps Soft Touch is traveling with companions on the cruise and is unsure of whether he will be alone to travel in Lisbon at all.
I perceived that if he gets a couple of available hours by himself, he wants to beeline it to a known address with minimum administrative inconvenience.
The Nuru Spa is one of the few places where many guys have gotten laid in the past, albeit the best reviews for full service are pretty old.
On a very limited time frame, I think going to this place while contacting them on the way to say he wants the relaxing massage (which is what was reported on the local board as the code the place gave out to know which customers wanted full service) is the best approach for him if he has very limited time and needs to hope for the best.
Not a bad idea for him to tell the massage lady that he is on a cruise with guy friends (best not to say with a wife), but has found he doesn't really like boat life. Perhaps her natural sympathy will increase her service offerings and performance. There is a legendary story of a guy during WWII who got sex almost every night with a different lady. The guy was a Navy trainer of servicemen. He told women at bars every night that he was setting sail the next morning. Which was the literal truth, although they thought he meant to the Pacific Theatre of WWII. He set sail every morning, did training, then returned to the port in the USA And worked on getting laid every night.
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Yes the last reviews on the local board are very old indeed, 4 to 5 years ago from what I can see. There may have been a policy change at the Spa during that time.
When I went, the person on reception and taking telephone calls was one of the male masseurs. He was very friendly, but looked at me as if I was talking a foreign language when I said I wanted a 'relaxing' massage. I didn't push the point or even subtly explain what I meant, and he proceeded to show me a menu of the massages they do. In the room, I also didn't explicitly request any full service (I was a bit put off by the masseuse's uninspiring massage). The advice to the poster would be to find a way of emphasising he wants a 'relaxing' massage.
I also went to a place called 'Genuine Tantric' and I seem to remember subtly enquiring with the masseuse whether she would give me a blowjob, as the massage was so erotic and really giving me good vibes. Unfortunately, she said they didn't do that there! However, at least I got a great sensual massage (unlike Nuru spa). Ultimately, I consider even Genuine Tantric to be relatively poor value as it cost the same as getting an EP girl to my hotel for full service, but that's another topic.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2813401]Sorry I forgot about your negative experience there.
The Nuru Spa is one of the few places where many guys have gotten laid in the past, albeit the best reviews for full service are pretty old.
On a very limited time frame, I think going to this place while contacting them on the way to say he wants the relaxing massage (which is what was reported on the local board as the code the place gave out to know which customers wanted full service) is the best approach for him if he has very limited time and needs to hope for the best.
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[QUOTE=AlexGreen;2813309]Hello guys.
Can anyone please help on my message below?
As I haven't seen any updates about the availability of Rubia, I am more inclined towards Yu Ferracini, anyone has an idea or a detailed review on her?
Thank you guys.[/QUOTE]Yu is well-liked. The type you describe isn't one I pay close attention to, but maybe Patricia Telles or Patricia Navarro?
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Thanks a lot.
If I succeed in meeting one of the girls I'll make sure to contribute to help the others as well.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2813439]Yu is well-liked. The type you describe isn't one I pay close attention to, but maybe Patricia Telles or Patricia Navarro?[/QUOTE]
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Marilyn Monre. Nice lady and knows how to hold a conversation but everything protected. CBJ, DATY, missionary, doggy, GFE, fingering. 1 pop and took shower together. Massage afterwards.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-marilyn-monre-7747[/URL]
Victória Saraiva. Outcall to my airbnb for 1 hour. Required proof of address. 1 pop, owo, DATY, missionary and doggy. Kept moving into a position to prevent me from going all the way in so it took longer to release. Left 15 minutes early cause "she parked in a bad spot" and a lot of traffic going back. Would not recommend. Pics look better than in person but she did have some nice boobs.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/victoria-saraiva/[/URL]
Luna Cardoso. 20 cheaper than the rest but I didn't have change so I left a tip. Best OWO I had in a while. Would recommend the next time I visit. She gives a nice massage afterwards. She was a bit far in the Entrecampos neighborhood but there is a bar on the same block where you can get $1 beer while you wait.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/en/best-escorts-portugal/escort-lisbon/escorts-lisbon.php?acompanhante=1409[/URL]#topo.
SA. Met up with two that don't seem to charge ppm. One was just coffee and lunch which end up going nowhere. I met the another one for drinks and got a uber to take her home. Met her again the next night and we had some GFE fun at my Airbnb for a few hours. Totally non pro and didn't ask for anything at the end. Another one wanted 3.00 and had everything open on her menu but didn't have time to meet her.
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Nuru Spa
Thanks so much to everybody who responded to my earlier request for Cruise Ship visit help.
There was some uncertainty about Nuru Spa ([URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]) as a FS venue. It was the easiest for me to access given the timeframe I had available so I decided to "take one for the team" and find out what is the current score there.
And score I did! I took Mongerer88's advice and messaged them ahead of time saying something like "I'm looking for 1 hour of Relaxing Massage at x: xxpm with an attractive young woman. Who is available?" No reply after 20 minutes so I again messaged to ask if anyone was available in the afternoon. I got a quick reply saying come into the spa and we will introduce you to available staff. Half an hour later (about 2 PM on a Wednesday) I was at the door and promptly let in. Again following advice, said to the receptionist that I was looking for a Relaxing Massage as I have been on a ship for two months with no women! (that's pretty close to the truth! She laughed and said. "in that case, maybe you should take two masseuses! I will have those available come and meet you. " I then asked if they were able to give Relaxing Massages. And she confirmed yes. So. I can confirm that there are some folks at the spa that know what a "Relaxing Massage" is and it seems the code words still work.
One after the other, two ladies came and introduced themselves. Both were definitely doable. I chose the more petite and interactive one (she gave me a hug. I took that as a sign from god! Her name was Ima, a 22 yo Brasilera. Looks 7.5, service 9, Attitude 9! She is really very pretty with a slim firm body. The only reason she didn't get a higher score on looks is she had silicone breasts (not my liking) although they were fairly well done see / the size, not overdone, so I quickly forgot about it after we started to kiss. I started with DATY. She was very responsive and after about 10 minutes of DATY with 2 fingers stroking her G-Spot she had an intense orgasm. I find it often helps with subsequent service. And this time was no exception!
Menu: LFK, DATY, digits, BBBJTC-not quite but almost CIM. She had two condoms with her so I am certain FS was on the menu but I was so taken with her excellent BBBJ skills I just laid back and let it rip. Wow. One of the best BBBJs I've ever had. The massage was pretty good, too. She would have continued the massage for the full hour if I hadn't cut it a bit short. She was very attentive to helping with showering and drying me off. Better than a GF!
The Nuru Spa web site has pics of the attendants and most are quite stunning (I don't know whether they are all as accommodating as my attendant was). Ima, my attendant is not in the current list as of May 3 (said she had been here in Lisboa for only a few weeks) but the other one I was introduced is on the current list. The pics of her are pretty accurate although the makeup in the pics is superb. When working the makeup is a bit more subdued.
Damage was as quoted by WhatsApp, 180 Euro per hour. I gave Ima a 20 Eu tip. While the overall cost was a bit more than some independents, for my situation it was reasonable.
My conclusion, if you can handle the price, Nuru Spa is highly recommended based on my sample of one!
I wished I had time to explore ExExpatriate's suggestion to visit Expo / Parque das Nacoes. Next time.
Thanks again to Mongerer88, ExExpatriate, Harry1217 for making my stop in Lisbon so "Relaxing"!
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Hey guys! Came across a second Brazilian girl that peaked my interest.
Her name is Emma Roberts.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-emma-roberts-7727[/URL]
Any word on her?
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Many, many thanks for your report and I'm delighted that you found what you wanted.
Your report is of great value because it's been a long time since anyone produced anything substantive about this place offering a full service ('relaxing massage').
There are very few places in Lisbon where you can go and get a line-up of girls to choose from, and combine a sensual massage with full service. 180 is more than most standard incall escorts charge, but I'd be prepared to part with that if the lady could combine an erotic massage with full service.
Incidentally, I mentioned before that I saw a lady called Alysha who gave me a very poor service. There is currently an Alysha on the Nuru Spa website but it's a different lady.
This place is back on my radar, cheers SoftTouch!
[QUOTE=SoftTouch;2813627]Thanks so much to everybody who responded to my earlier request for Cruise Ship visit help.
There was some uncertainty about Nuru Spa ([URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en[/URL]) as a FS venue. It was the easiest for me to access given the timeframe I had available so I decided to "take one for the team" and find out what is the current score there.
And score I did! I took Mongerer88's advice and messaged them ahead of time saying something like "I'm looking for 1 hour of Relaxing Massage at x: xxpm with an attractive young woman. Who is available?" No reply after 20 minutes so I again messaged to ask if anyone was available in the afternoon. I got a quick reply saying come into the spa and we will introduce you to available staff. Half an hour later (about 2 PM on a Wednesday) I was at the door and promptly let in. Again following advice, said to the receptionist that I was looking for a Relaxing Massage as I have been on a ship for two months with no women! (that's pretty close to the truth! She laughed and said. "in that case, maybe you should take two masseuses! I will have those available come and meet you. " I then asked if they were able to give Relaxing Massages. And she confirmed yes. So. I can confirm that there are some folks at the spa that know what a "Relaxing Massage" is and it seems the code words still work.
One after the other, two ladies came and introduced themselves. Both were definitely doable. I chose the more petite and interactive one (she gave me a hug. I took that as a sign from god! Her name was Ima, a 22 yo Brasilera. Looks 7.5, service 9, Attitude 9! She is really very pretty with a slim firm body. The only reason she didn't get a higher score on looks is she had silicone breasts (not my liking) although they were fairly well done see / the size, not overdone, so I quickly forgot about it after we started to kiss. I started with DATY. She was very responsive and after about 10 minutes of DATY with 2 fingers stroking her G-Spot she had an intense orgasm. I find it often helps with subsequent service. And this time was no exception!
Menu: LFK, DATY, digits, BBBJTC-not quite but almost CIM. She had two condoms with her so I am certain FS was on the menu but I was so taken with her excellent BBBJ skills I just laid back and let it rip. Wow. One of the best BBBJs I've ever had. The massage was pretty good, too. She would have continued the massage for the full hour if I hadn't cut it a bit short. She was very attentive to helping with showering and drying me off. Better than a GF!
The Nuru Spa web site has pics of the attendants and most are quite stunning (I don't know whether they are all as accommodating as my attendant was). Ima, my attendant is not in the current list as of May 3 (said she had been here in Lisboa for only a few weeks) but the other one I was introduced is on the current list. The pics of her are pretty accurate although the makeup in the pics is superb. When working the makeup is a bit more subdued.
Damage was as quoted by WhatsApp, 180 Euro per hour. I gave Ima a 20 Eu tip. While the overall cost was a bit more than some independents, for my situation it was reasonable.
My conclusion, if you can handle the price, Nuru Spa is highly recommended based on my sample of one!
I wished I had time to explore ExExpatriate's suggestion to visit Expo / Parque das Nacoes. Next time.
Thanks again to Mongerer88, ExExpatriate, Harry1217 for making my stop in Lisbon so "Relaxing"![/QUOTE]
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Review. Camila Pereira
Saw Camila for the first time yesterday. Not much to add to what other reviewers have said. I really enjoyed the booking. She looks very different from the photos. Much more athletic after losing weight, with blond hair. Her body is exactly what I like, particularly the lower half. Also much prettier than most of the EP escorts, but that's a matter of taste. The photos are way out of date so I was pleasantly surprised when she showed up.
Everything in the bedroom was as good as I've experienced with other escorts, so consider that a strong recommendation. She also has a very relaxed yet mature personality. She reads the reviews on this board and the local one, and managed to identify me by some comments I made about her "colleagues". Very smart about the business and I was impressed by that.
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Vivian Miler
Vivian is back for a few months and I saw her after being one of her first clients last year. Unfortunately, it wasn't at the level of previous meets. Agency screwed it up by only sending her over for an hour instead of the two I requested. She's still gorgeous, with better breasts than Flora Neves but she was too aggressive during the sex. Big change from last year. Personally, I don't appreciate being slapped and bitten, so had to tell her to calm down and save that nonsense for her boyfriend. That was after she left several scratches on my arms and back.
Tentative recommendation for her beauty and BJ skills, but I won't be seeing her again.
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Why you should ignore certain ad websites
PER recently posted about how the EP scuttlebutt was that Tita Ipanema was sacked for ripping off a customer (and then not sharing with the agency --FT). She is now advertising on euroescortgirls.
The Lisbon area has at least 5 photo-verified, region-specific sites all its own. Any local escort one should want to see on more global ad sites like Massage Republic or euroescortgirls is also on one of the local ad sites, so there really is no reason to look at the global ads in relation to Portugal. Keeping the local ad sites in mind, I consider it a red flag for a local to advertise on global sites and only global sites.
Heavily underlining this is the case of Pietra Kolinsky, aka ex-EP girl Giovanna Braganca. There isn't any question about who she is, since Pietra's ads use Giovanna's photoshoot + selfies. She had a lousy reputation on the local board while with EP. She has one review on both global sites, and its the verbatim review, so it is undoubtedly fake. And a local working girl skipping the local ad sites says she isn't serious about working, at best.
Adelia Blueberry is another one I was helping folks aboid last year. She ropes in suckers on Massage Republic using pictures from like 10 years ago and fake reviews. She wasn't well-regarded back when she was on Portuguese ad sites back then either. The strategy seems to be to jip the ill-informed foreigner who doesn't know where to go for good information.
Insofar as Portugal goes, stick to the Portuguese ad sites. Anyone worth seeing is there.
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The good and bad
Well my trip to Lisbon is coming to an end so thought I'd post my feedback on the women I seen.
I'll start with the bad.
Aurora Alfaiate- [URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL].
I had this lady come visit me at my hotel for an hour €150. Communication was quick and easy, all through WhatsApp. She showed up and I thought she was kind of cute, not a head turner but not unattractive. She speaks fairly good English so no problems there. We had a brief conversation then she started to undress, not in a seductive way just kind of awkwardly removing pieces of clothing in the corner of the room. She joins me on the bed and my hands are roaming and I asked if she kissed, she replied if you like. I tried kissing her but quickly realized that all that was on offer was some very light pecks which doesn't do anything for me so I call it quits on that. She then goes down to start the worst attempt at a blowjob I have experienced. She basically only put the tip in her mouth and made slight movements before grabbing the protection. After she'd put the condom on she gets on top and starts slowly bouncing and grinding making slight noises, it was enjoyable but nothing memorable. I decide to flip her over and have her legs on my shoulders, she seems to be getting into it a bit more now and starts rubbing herself and making a bit more noise. This is where I start to notice a bad smell. I got her bent over in the hope of at least finishing as quickly as possible but the smell was too much for me and I started going soft. I pulled out and told her I wouldn't be able to finish, so she got dressed wished me a good time in Lisbon and left. She was friendly enough, but quite distant. I wouldn't of recommended her even without the bad smell. I will say that it was a meeting out of desperation as the ladies I was hoping to see weren't available so I resorted to what was available in the need to empty my balls, turns out I didn't even get to do that. Lesson learned, make decisions with the head upstairs not downstairs.
Patricia Navarro- [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL].
The next day I was still needing to empty my balls, so I messaged Patricia after reading reviews on the local board she sounded perfect for me, and she was. She quickly replied and we agreed on a time. It was €120 for an hour incall. Her apartment was easy to find and she guided me in when I arrived. I only seen one room but it was comfortable and a shower in the room if needed. In my opinion Patricia is stunning, beautiful face, big tits and a nice round ass. She is also very friendly, although her English isn't the best we managed to get on just fine. She does full on French kissing, there is no holding back with this girl. Her blowjob skills are good, I'm only average size wise but she took it all in her mouth with lots of eye contact, I was in heaven. The sex was great, multiple positions she seems to enjoy herself and comes in for the odd deep kiss. I had her bent over and told her I was close to finishing and she said she wants it in her mouth. She made sure I was completely emptied before moving off to spit it out. Then she gave a very hard and thorough massage, before nibbling on my ear and telling me to turn over. That was enough to get me excited again and she started kissing me before going down to give another blowjob to make sure I was ready again. Couple of positions later I had her bent over again and finished with a beautiful view of her ass, and again she made sure I was finished before moving off. We had a bit of a cuddle and off I went, fully satisfied. I'd definitely recommend anyone in Lisbon to visit this girl.
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Alternatives to escorts?
Wow, loved to read through the last ten's of pages and particularly to your recent post, ShinyCrazy. There is really excellent knowledge around and I will call myself stupid if I will not try some of the EP and Apartadox suggestions. One question for the typical EP ST 120-150/ h: Is it normally a full hour including two shots or do they expect to book more than one hour if I want to come more than once?
Preparing for a journey end of the month, I would like to ask about an area that has not been covered as much as the incall / outcall escort scene of lisbon. I am talking about the rougher, simpler, cheaper, dirtier (not necessarily in terms of hygiene, but more of atmosphere) options. I am aware that this is not the main focus of this group but sometimes I am drawn to the less luxurious end of the spectrum. So, in terms of street walkers, brothels, maybe Asian or African places. Is there such a scene in Lisbon?
I am staying in the Bairro Alto / Alfama area and I will have to work a lot with unfixed schedules, so it may be difficult to pre-arrange dates that I can guarantee, making "walk-in" options preferable over fixed outcall / incall arrangements.
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2813127]Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.
Mongering in Lisbon is easy. Get a decent hotel. Review my list of good girls from Escort Privada. Contact the girl via WhatsApp. Enjoy.[/QUOTE]
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EP is 150/ HR + extras, like anal. For your neighborhood, there is no extra for transport. Whether that is one pops or two depends on the time and the girl. Most girls will allow two pops ("opportunities" is the local term) if you get started on no. 2 well before the end of the hour. But it's worth asking about opportunities when you make the appointment, so they know your expectations.
I can't tell you about streetwalkers and such. They've never been my thing.
[QUOTE=Stradivari;2814775]Wow, loved to read through the last ten's of pages and particularly to your recent post, ShinyCrazy. There is really excellent knowledge around and I will call myself stupid if I will not try some of the EP and Apartadox suggestions. One question for the typical EP ST 120-150/ h: Is it normally a full hour including two shots or do they expect to book more than one hour if I want to come more than once?
Preparing for a journey end of the month, I would like to ask about an area that has not been covered as much as the incall / outcall escort scene of lisbon. I am talking about the rougher, simpler, cheaper, dirtier (not necessarily in terms of hygiene, but more of atmosphere) options. I am aware that this is not the main focus of this group but sometimes I am drawn to the less luxurious end of the spectrum. So, in terms of street walkers, brothels, maybe Asian or African places. Is there such a scene in Lisbon?
I am staying in the Bairro Alto / Alfama area and I will have to work a lot with unfixed schedules, so it may be difficult to pre-arrange dates that I can guarantee, making "walk-in" options preferable over fixed outcall / incall arrangements.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you ExExpatriate for the quick answer. So I will check the "opportunities" upfront.
Let's see if I can figure out something and report myself. Locations that have been mentioned are Eduardo VII Park, Monsanto Forest Park, Conde Redondo, area around metro Intendente, Martim Moniz and Anjos area but I don't know if this information is up to date, with acceptable safety, if there really is any action and whether it has straight girls (I'm not into shemales).
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2814797]EP is 150/ HR + extras, like anal. For your neighborhood, there is no extra for transport. Whether that is one pops or two depends on the time and the girl. Most girls will allow two pops ("opportunities" is the local term) if you get started on no. 2 well before the end of the hour. But it's worth asking about opportunities when you make the appointment, so they know your expectations.
I can't tell you about streetwalkers and such. They've never been my thing.[/QUOTE]
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Martim Moniz
[QUOTE=Stradivari;2814821]Thank you ExExpatriate for the quick answer. So I will check the "opportunities" upfront.
Let's see if I can figure out something and report myself. Locations that have been mentioned are Eduardo VII Park, Monsanto Forest Park, Conde Redondo, area around metro Intendente, Martim Moniz and Anjos area but I don't know if this information is up to date, with acceptable safety, if there really is any action and whether it has straight girls (I'm not into shemales).[/QUOTE]I was wandering around the area east of Martim Monz last night around 10 pm and saw no streetwalkers. Lots of guys in the streets hanging out and drinking but no action that I could discern. I'll check out Eduardo VII, Rua do Conde de Redonde and Anjos in the next couple of days because I'm staying nearby. Mansanto Forest is huge and wouldn't know where to begin.
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Patricia Navarro Review - 9/10!
Hey guys!
I am happy to add yet another positive report on Patricia Navarro!
ApartadoX: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL].
Portal Privado: [URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160[/URL].
Incalls.
- 30 Minutes - 70 Euros.
- 1 Hour - 120 Euros.
Important Note: Appointments are only made on the same day you contact her and she does not offer Anal.
Also, her English is pretty basic. I have a pretty good grasp on Portuguese, so we managed just fine.
I messaged her through Whatsapp and she responded relatively quickly. The day after, we scheduled a 1 hour meet (Incall).
I made sure to confirm the services she offered: BBBJ, CIM and she allows for multiple pops in the session! She does emphasize good hyenine, so I recommend you boys give yourselves a good shave down south if you plan on meeting up with her.
She was my ideal Latina woman, with caramel skin and long black hair. Not only is she pretty but she is quite charming as well! Very seductive!
When I arrived, she kindly asked me to take a shower and offered me some water before we started.
I finished 3 times. First time, CIM. Second time, Doggy. Third time, Missionary. I even slapped her ass a couple of times but heard no complaints!
During downtime, we cuddled and she massaged me a bit. Towards the end, when I was spent, we engaged in some nice conversation.
All in all, I was quite happy with experience! I would have given her a 10/10 but I have to admit she seemed just a little bit thicker than her photos indicated.
I will definitely be seeing her again!
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EP Notice
Two EP girls recently did a name change.
Mariana Amaral is now Sofia Abecassis. A keen observer can see it plain as day. The new photo essay has had the tattoos removed, but that is all. I was never with her, but she had a few good reviews here and there. Maybe she felt showing off her tats was damaging her appeal?
Vera Guerra is now Julieta Gomes. I have been with her and am in complete agreement with the fellows on the local board: she is a disinterested, lousy lay, will use every time wasting tactic there is, complain non-stop about everything, and then demand a tip or that you pay for her parking. There is zero reason to ever call this girl.
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There is nothing to add to this review from my perspective. I met here late this evening (conversation before meeting was straight and easy) and I was nicely surprised by here expressive face and eyes, and indeed she has some more weight than I would have expected, but for booty lovers very nice. Here attitude is perfect and she is kind and enthusiastic. First shot CIM after nice wet DT after which she did not stop but tried just to continue. I needed a short brake however and we walked very nicely. Intense cowgirl with rubbing her clit strongly and just at the end of an hour I came right in time. She is a kind person, please treat her well. Sexually, it was okay, good GFE, bothered a little bit by some restrictions (no FIP, no saliva). But nothing to write home about. Most likely I will try somebody else before repeating.
My feet's were to tired tonight to check the street situation.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2795092]This is one where I chose to break some new ground.
I haven't seen Bela reviewed anywhere that I follow it, but she has been asked about.
Bela is about 20, with dark hair and a nice face, but nothing that would turn your head on the street. Her best attribute is her blue eyes. She appeared dressed casually, but stylishly. As for her body, it is exactly what you see in the pictures, but look carefully at them. If you do, you'll see she has a thick set of legs and a big booty; basically, she naturally has the kind of junk in the trunk that a lot of girls go to the gym and do squats all day to get. She is NOT fat and the pictures are accurate. The thing is I can see a lot of you guys missing that detail -- which is right in front of your face -- and then complaining about Photoshopping.
She is new to being a call girl and still enthusiastic about it. She told me she started for a few weeks, took a month off to deal with some private problems, and had just gotten started again. She doesn't do anal or FIV, but her OWO is sans hands, all mouth, and good; good DFK; basically, GFE with the girlfriend who likes to fuck.
]https://escortprivada.com/escort/bela-soares/[/QUOTE]
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Help needed
Coming to Lisbon for bachelor party.
Looking for a reputable walk in brothel with line up.
My guys not picky sometimes going like equivalent to felina in BCN will do.
And Nuru spa Lisbon? She mixed reports.
How many people can they recieve at a time.
We are 13 but I reckon about 8 will want to go.
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IMO, you would be lucky to find eight girls working at the same time at most spas in Lisbon. Only a few have a stated roster that big, and it would be very unusual for them to all be at the "office" at the same time for no reason. Moreover, I've only seen a spa that had that many private rooms once, and that place closed, although maybe another one is around.
Brothels per se do not exist, because profiting from prostitution is a crime. The work-arounds are "we're a spa" or "we do advertising" or "I rent rooms to the escorts, and don't collect on the actual services. " I know there have been places that could do 8 guests as a party in the past, but I'm unaware of any now. I can't point you in the right direction there, just on that point alone.
[QUOTE=EMassageBro;2815651]Coming to Lisbon for bachelor party.
Looking for a reputable walk in brothel with line up.
My guys not picky sometimes going like equivalent to felina in BCN will do.
And Nuru spa Lisbon? She mixed reports.
How many people can they recieve at a time.
We are 13 but I reckon about 8 will want to go.[/QUOTE]
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Carlota M / Iris Furtado
Hi Gents, back in your wonderful city and have been for almost a week. I've seen a number of ladies including a few off SA. Will definitely report on my finding next few days. That said, I've looked, but have been unable to find any reports on either Carlota M or Iris Furtado. If anyone has any intel, I'd appreciate your thoughts.
Stirling.
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Another EP switch
The poorly rated Eva Santos changed her name and got a new photoshoot, and now goes by Violeta Santos.
That makes three in the last week or so.
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Alternatives to EP-Girls
Hi folks,
I am wondering all the time why there is all the time a hype with the EP. Girls. They are expensive and you have quite often a bad service or a bait and switch.
Why do you not look into other platforms like [URL]classificados.net.pt[/URL]? There are hundreds if not thousand girls offering their services. Be aware that there is also a good number of bait and swith operations going on but they are considerably cheaper. The going price there is 30 minutes of 40 / 50 and 1 hour 80 - 100 , depending what you are looking for.
African girls here offer mostly excellent services like the one I would like to recommend. (Mulattas / black girls are not so much in demand than the white-skinned ones and therefore their servieces are lower in price - but nevertheless their performance is mostly better. A Brazilian mulatta is preferable to a white dead fish in bed)
Saphira / Diamante Negro.
[URL]https://www.classificadosx.net/pt/anuncio/20-mulheres-lisboa/419118-sabor-africano[/URL]
Body: slim and musculous. Well trained.
Boobs: 40 C. They fill a large hand. Perky.
Age: around 38 - 40.
Performance: Kissing, anal, vaginal, BBBJ, deep throat, massage. She really gets wet.
Price: 30 min 50 , 1 hour 100 .
Place: side street of Fonte Luminosa - Lisboa (Almada). Rua Actor Vale.
I suggest that mongers visiting Lisboa should give it a try. She is doing Incall and Outcall during the day.
The only draw-back is, that her English is limited.
Enjoy.
Carlos Primeros.
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1) Since this board is mostly patronized by visitors, and visitors have a hotel room, that expense is built-in for us. Outcall with EP is cheaper than with other predominantly incall escorts.
2) If you want an under 30 Portuguese girl, rather than Brasilians or Africans, EP is where most of them are.
3) EP used to be pricey. Nowadays, 150/ h is in the same ballpark as the better incall escorts.
4) ClassifcadosX? Ha! I do keep an eye on it, but most of those ads are unverified. Many are easily seen as fake. And most of the verified girls there also have ads placed on photo-verified sites.
I encourage these guys to try incall pretty often, but I understand why they do not. Now you know.
[QUOTE=CarlosPrimeros;2816337]Hi folks,
I am wondering all the time why there is all the time a hype with the EP. Girls. They are expensive and you have quite often a bad service or a bait and switch.
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Lisboa incall vs. Outcall
ExExpatriate. You are right concerning EP and predominantly white girls. No disagreement.
With out-call you have to pay also for the transport of the girl and their time comming to you. One hour turns out to be then only 30 minutes. For my part I would not like to have a working girl in my private residence. But this is only a personal matter.
Classificadosx is certainly to be taken not only with one grain of salt. There is a lot of fake going on. Agreed to that as well. Seeing an incall. Girl. If she is opening the door and is a total fake, I simply turn around an leave. Easy as that. It certainly happened to me as well. But after a while you have filtered out a certain number of girls which are ok. That is the advantage of living in a place like Lisboa.
I do not travel anymore extensively as before and I have everything here in front of my door.
Carlos Primeros.
Retired King of Portugal.
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Oh yeah, Carlos. I'm not arguing. Just answering the question.
In my own pursuits, I mix EP with incalls, depending on the timing and circumstances.
If you are in Lisbon proper, EP never charges for transport. That only comes up for outlying areas, like Estoril or something. Also, I've never had an outcall in Lisbon, EP or not, start the clock at any time except the time of her arrival. That would be very, very unusual IME.
As a rule, most incall ladies in Lisbon don't even want to do outcalls. They are especially disinterested in doing outcall for strangers. So, the mark-up is steep, they ask for travel fare, etc. The more extras they want, the less they really want to go out for work in the first place.
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Reports
A couple of reports from a very short trip. Both outcall to my hotel and booked via EP.
Joana Montenegro.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
She is well reviewed across many different boards, and I concur with recent reports saying she still looks good! The EP pictures do give a good representation of her, perhaps not as photoshopped as other girls (EP overall isn't as bad as sites like PortalPrivado which have excessive photoshopping). She's around 30, tall for a girl, and has a lovely body resembling the pictures.
The best way to describe her service is she will give you a PSE, and cater for fetishes, if that's what you want, without Anal (which she politely said she didn't enjoy).
Gave a great BBBJ with a CIM at the end, kissed as much as I wanted, and she loves energetic and high-speed intercourse. It felt like a rigorous workout by the end! Open to every position under the sun, and loves intense doggy. On 1 hour appointments, I struggle to get hard again after I pop, so I had to manage her enthusiasm.
Just a lovely lady with so signs of burn-out despite having been going for a few years. Speaks good English which does help. Stayed just over an hour with no clock watching. Definitely one of my best experiences.
Ana Lucia.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ana-lucia/[/URL]
I don't think there are any reports about this lady, surprisingly, so I've taken one for the team here. I say surprisingly because she has a bit of a unique look and I would have thought she would appeal to many. Having said that, I personally prefer fuller and more curvy figures! But I certainly found Ana attractive; when she arrived at my hotel in jeans I was happy with what I saw - tall and youthful with long dark hair in a ponytail (I'm sure the hair was a wig but it was hard to tell).
I was equally happy once she undressed in the room. I would actually say she looks better than in the EP pictures but they do give a good representation.
Ana is actually 30 next year, rather than the 22 stated on EP. However, she could pass for 22-24 as she has a youthful looking face with not an ounce of fat on her body and the breasts of an 18 year old (just like the pictures).
Her personality is the opposite of someone like Joana. Ana is quiet and whilst she speaks English, it is limited (had to use google translate a lot). She also comes across as a bit inexperienced despite her relatively mature age and having been doing this for over 18 months. Luckily no burn-out syndrome as such. Inexperience is fine however, providing the girl is willing to take direction and show some enthusiasm, which Ana did.
She is health / hygiene conscious and is a bit reluctant with certain things -kissing was not always full on DFK, and she initially denied FIV (but eventually accepted it with enthusiasm). The OWO was also not the best I have had (a bit lacking in pressure). That was despite me feeling a genuine connection with her during the meet and her actually telling me that she liked me! She's training to be a dentist, and the health side of that showed if you get my drift!
She was happy with everything I requested (open to all positions and she's flexible) & does actually provide a CIM finish. She brought some toys along with her and we had a bit of fun with those. Even played a bit of role-play. I really enjoyed going down on her and must have spent around 20 minutes of the booking doing that. Didn't ask about anal but I don't think she provides it.
Stayed the full hour and she didn't ask for the money until the end - I had left it on a table nearby. That for me is always a good sign.
I only saw Ana because other ladies were not available (I had booked the short trip late and didn't have much time to schedule). Ana was far down on my list, and although I enjoyed the meet, I'm not sure if I would see her again as there are so many others I want to see. I would recommend her but with the caveats described above (comes across inexperienced, possibly no anal, some services not full on due to hygiene obsessions).
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Portugal, Lisbon, Mid may 2023
Hi guys,
As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.
Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.
Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/[/URL] - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.
I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.
So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673[/URL] and it was a disappointment:
1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.
2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.
3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.
4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.
I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.
I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.
Aviv.
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There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.
One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.
It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.
Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.
Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).
[QUOTE=Avivis;2818149]Hi guys,
As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.
Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.
Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/[/URL] - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.
I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.
So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673[/URL] and it was a disappointment:
1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.
2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.
3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.
4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.
I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.
I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.
Aviv.[/QUOTE]
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Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.
If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.
I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.
While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.
I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.
Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.
The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.
But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.
Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2818336]There are so many well reviewed girls on the tens of pages here that it is a bit harsh to advise people to stay away from Lisbon.
One thing that is indisputable is that Lisbon, like many other cities around the world, has been on a slow decline for many years. By all accounts, the best times were actually when the internet was in its infancy. But there are still good experiences to be had, if you follow the recommendations in this forum.
It's also not fair to compare to a South American country like Brazil, which is a few thousand miles away and has all manner of other considerations. But i agree it would be strange if you plonked a girl from Brazil to Lisbon and her service went downhill, given she would be earning more in Lisbon! I can tell you that Lisbon trumps other European Cities such as London and Amsterdam, in my opinion.
Obviously, even well reviewed girls may not deliver or may not turn out to be what you wanted.
Massage can indeed be very frustrating when there is no kissing and even touching is restricted. I actually popped in to Tantric Moments last year, and I had 3 or 4 ladies introduce themselves, but just didn't get a good feel. And the 180 price also put me off (bearing in mind full service at your hotel can be had for 150). I did get a very good sensual massage at Genuine Tantric (but no kissing and limited touching).[/QUOTE]
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What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.
If you had bothered to either do your own homework or simply ASK, you would have discovered Ariana Pilar has a low rating (and that despite her being Carolina's duo partner). Also, I think it's been years since anyone had anything positive to say about Tantric Moments anywhere, and they've always been an HJ-only place.
Your story screams that you went about things all the wrong way. I post about Cascais regularly, and have a great time in most cases.
This reads like a Kevin's Yelp review. Lisbon rocks. It has its own culture, but so does everywhere else. I don't get why people rave about German brothels, but you don't see me posting on German forums that they suck.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2818149]Hi guys,
As usual I report from another city around the world. See my other reports, from Kiev to Rio via Bogota and more.
Lisbon, is a city to avoid. 90% bad experiences for me, maybe a few mediocre. I had one good experience with Caroline Belmont but she stopped working unfortunately.
Went to a massage called Tantric Moments: [URL]https://www.tantricmoments.pt/en/[/URL] - got in with a smiling Brazilian with huge fake boobs. Got a very low quality massage with handjob at the end. No pussy touching. No kissing. 180 euro for one hour. Waste of money. I tried to check what is happening in other massage parlours. Got in, usually only two girls on the shift, not something thrilling, so I decided to pass and go back to the hotel.
I tried to book some girls from apartadox, most of them wanted 150 euro per hour, but since my hotel was in Cascais they wanted extra 30 euro to get here. I said I will book the Uber, but no, they wanted me to charge up their phone or pass the money upfront through a different shadey way. Now this for me is a very RED flag so I decided not to book any of them. Eventually I found a girl that was chatty on the phone and agreed for me to call her an Uber.
So I booked the girl called Ariana Pilar [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-ariana-pilar-6673[/URL] and it was a disappointment:
1. The good things: She arrived on time. She charged 150 euro for hour. She is not ugly but not good looking either.
2. Bad things: She is not the girl from the photos. She have darker skin. Dirty colour blonde hair.
3. She was very boring in bed. Not terrible just again, boring.
4. We took a shower, had vanilla quiet sex and she left.
I sometimes pay 800 euros for an hour for BDSM girls in Berlin. I can pay a lot. I can pay a bit (in Colombia) but I expect value per money. This was not it. Even the Brazilian girls which in Brazil are so much fun transform to be boring in Lisbon. Go figures.
I have yet to find something worth it in Lisbon. Stay away.
Aviv.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2818352]What I'll do is. Advise people to stay away from ignorant reporting.[/QUOTE]Exactly! With so many useful posts and "field reports", you can only go wrong if you choose to ignore them.
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Good points. I find it hard to believe that a person wouldn't find in Lisbon the type of service they are looking for. It's not as if Lisbon ladies are highly conservative or not up for certain things. After all, whether it's a FKK (e.g.) or not, ultimately you're having sex with a lady. Perhaps I'm viewing it too simplistically.
The accuracy of the advertising in Lisbon could be better, as you say. I was specifically looking for a bit of fetish fun, and contacted a couple of other ladies who had BDSM listed, as back-up in case Joana wasn't available. However, when I mentioned it to them, they said they didn't provide it (for example, Sofia Sampaio). More care should be taken to ensure the lady does provide the services listed.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2818346]Harry1217, Thank you for the Joanna review. I wish I had been able to see her, but such is life with EP, even when you try to book in advance. And thanks for the groundbreaking Ana Lucia review.
If you take the time to read Avivis's reviews, they are about 85 to 90 percent negative experiences, and if I recall correctly he prefers CBJ instead of BBBJ.
I doubt that there are any other board participants exactly like him. If there are, tgey would be advised to stay away from Lisbon. And perhaps this activity entirely if a person is displeased 85 to 90 percent of the time.
While it isn't as bad as with him, it happens a lot in the forums. A guy who enjoys FKKs who writes for 10 pages trying to find a German FKK in Spain or Portugal ends up disappointed when the experience isn't like a German FKK even when told that no FKKs exist in Spain or Portugal.
I believe I remember that Avivis also dislikes Portuguese food and other customs. Personally, I like the food and the hour or hour and a half of GFE in the room.
Are criticisms valid? Of course. Portugal really doesn't have a BDSM scene, unlike London which obviously does (with dims, switches and subs). But a not insignificant portion of London full-service BDSM providers are CBJ only, which honestly ruins the session for me. When it comes to valid criticisms, Sarah Valente's ad sometimes appears on the BDSM section of Apartadox. It shouldn't, since she doesn't seem to actually do that. Same with anal. EP should quit teasing on items where the ladies rarely deliver. Joanna's review on the Britain site says she does some mild submissive BDSM when comfortable with the customer. Same with Marcela Moniz, who is also anal friendly.
The best way to get the information is to read the reviews. And Lisbon is a soft-pedal place. It is probably best to ask about fetish activities about half-way through the session if the lady seems to feel comfortable with you, and be ready for it to be nicely rejected. That is how I had a tremendous session with EP's long-departed Ana Castro. Portugal sessions are pretty GFE standard, including BBBJ, as can be gleaned from most of the pages. Not sure really what Avivis is looking for in a perfect session, but Portugal doesn't do it for him.
But for the 98 percent of posters who have almost all great sessions in Portugal, so do not say Stay Away, we say, You Should Try Portugal. But as with food, learn to appreciate what is offered in the local culture, not what you want from another culture, or from your imagined hopes and dreams.
Are there ladies to avoid? Of course. EP's Fabiana Lopes just got a dismal review from an experienced reviewer on the local board. But plenty of recommended ladies to see, also.[/QUOTE]
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I suppose we should ALL be grateful when an angry thumb scores only known poor performers. Serving such a person must be unpleasant. I wouldn't wish that on the ladies I like or wish to call upon in the future. Even from a practical point of view -- bad experiences contribute to burn out.
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Adding to my Lisbon report
Hi,
Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.
First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.
I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).
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The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).
Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.
I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.
[QUOTE=Avivis;2818672]Hi,
Got some nice (and not so nice) responses to my Lisbon review. I would like to fine-tune it.
First of all, it is my recommendation and taste. I somehow couldn't connect to any of the girls vibe, communication and eventually sexual encounter (massage, or escort) and due to time constraint (and payment) I couldn't test ALL the ladies. Unfortunately MY experience was not good and I basically think that sexually mongering is better else where. Even Madrid with VIVE for example. But it is still just MY experience and trying to reflect it to others.
I would like to correct a few things from my previous trip to Lisbon last year. This time I had more time to travel around Portugal and got some good recommendations for restaurants. Portugal is a beautiful place, Sintra is amazing (and huge), the views are marvellous and sea food is delicious (especially in Cascais).[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2818712]The issue is that the vast majority of your experiences appear to be negative, spread across several different countries. That raises the question of whether it is the girls, or whether you should be doing this activity at all. From a quick browse of your reports, it appears you prefer a type of setting where there are lots of ladies to choose from, and you can relax and enjoy the atmosphere too (i.e. Vive madrid, FKK's etc).
Also you're going to wind people up when you've only seen a handful of ladies in Lisbon, and you advise people to stay away from the place, against a backdrop of plenty of positive reports on this forum.
I understand you're Spanish so I would be surprised if you didn't like your fellow Iberian country, unless of course you're not happy with your home country and perhaps the Iberian peninsula isn't the place for you.[/QUOTE]I do have high standards.
I did had great experiences (Germany, Madrid, Kyiev, Rio, Bogota) with good reviews and reports.
Bottom line, if you try girls in random and get 1 good out of 10 in Lisbon. This is the rate I am going to give.
If you try random girls in Bogota / Germany and get 5 good or 7 good out of 10 this is the rate this country is given.
Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.
Go to Germany. You will enjoy more. Here is a 150/200 euro p / hour escort agency I had very good experiences (more than 5 times) with in Berlin escort77. Berlin. Sorry if I offended someone but truth had to be told and it is a good practice to report so others will know.
Fore me: Avoid Lisbon.
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[QUOTE=Avivis;2818967]Of course if you read 200 pages in the forum and finds. One good service girl. That does not make this country a good place for mongering.[/QUOTE]I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2819457]I don't know if your problem is one of math or of reading. But one of them it sure is.[/QUOTE]I discovered the "ignore" function, and set some of our participants with problems to ignore. Seeing as how they know so much better than anyone else, they clearly don't need any help.
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A few days in Lisbon
I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.
Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.
I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.
In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.
Stirling.
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[QUOTE=Stirling;2819774]I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.
Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.
I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.
In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.
Stirling.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much for the reviews. Francisca Vilar relocated to Lisbon from Porto, where she received relatively good reviews consistent with yours, including the availability of anal. Also good to hear that Seeking Arrangement works well in Lisbon.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/francisca-vilar/[/URL]
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Frankly, I would do the SA thing all the time, except my schedule / situation makes it pretty unpredictable if I'll have that kind of latitude.
I had a thing going with a semi-retired escort, who was very popular during her incall days. She dropped out during the Pandemic, but continued to do outcall with me. She was great company, a gorgeous woman just crossing 40. A typical rendezvous would be our bedroom side (2 to 3 hours, BB, I paid for 2 hours), followed by lunch and an afternoon stroll. All told, a 5 to 6 hour date.
The format suited me very well, ideal really. The thing is, she was a unicorn: we were both available only during the late morning and early afternoon. She threw herself at me during that window, once or twice per visit. Ah, I'll miss her for years to come.
But yes. I dabbled in SA, and found that some of the ladies acted as if they weren't in a truly excellent city for escorting. Some of the best incall ladies in Lisbon will do an overnight with you for several hundred euros, so anyone asking a thousand has GPS. Just stop and realize that EP charges 150/h, and while the roster is quite mixed, some of them are very good... and those girls are splitting with the agency!
[QUOTE=Stirling;2819774]I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.
Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.
I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.
In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.
Stirling.[/QUOTE]
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Thank you for the reports on SA and Francisca Vilar. Great to hear that you had such a good trip.
Francisca Vilar has two sets of pictures on EP, as do some other girls (whilst others have different pictures across different websites). She looks more attractive on the top set of pictures, but from your report I suspect the bottom set is more representative.
Your report on SA has given me food for thought. I've considered it before, but always ended up opting for the convenience of booking escorts. I've also worried about the risks of meeting a complete stranger via SA I've seen scams and worse reported.
I agree that 250 for dinner and an overnight with a hot young lady, is good. The real value is when having overnights (for shorter bookings it's not such a discount to escort rates). Suspect that my reluctance for overnights may mean I don't do SA but you've got me thinking again!
Similar SA rates have been reported in places like Barcelona but a chap on another board who has used SA in various European countries, has reported that Lisbon is one of the best both for quality of girls and also rates. London has a bigger pool of ladies to choose from, as you'd expect, but a common overnight rate appears to be e500-600, and he reports that you have to scroll through more ladies in London to find the attractive ones.
[QUOTE=Stirling;2819774]I was in Lisbon a few weeks ago for a week and used a variety of services. I joined SA about a month prior to my arrival based on the recommendation of a friend. It worked out well. I chatted with a few ladies and made several dates. The first of which happened on the day of my arrival. The young lady met me at my hotel 7 pm and we headed out for dinner after which she joined me in my room until dawn. Total damage was 250. I arranged to see her again the next evening and same deal. Dinner and overnight for 250. No anal but otherwise full GFE. Busy on the 3rd day and didn't get back to my hotel until later in the evening. I went on escort privado and found Francisca Vilar working. Arrangements were easy and she met me outside of my hotel 30 min later. (security / elevator key card issues). She is 150 or 200 with anal. Good looking girl, I found her slimmer than her photos would suggest? Quite bright and can converse on a number of topics. Light french kissing, nothing deep. I found her BJ lacking. To be fair to her, I didn't provide much direction, however, she was quick and didn't slide down too deep. Lots of saliva!! She makes up for it during the main event. This girl can fuck. Multiple positions, bed, chair, and floor. Had a great time and would definitely repeat. I'd give her a 7/10. If only the BJ was better.
Last night tried my luck again with SA. Found a 24 yr old willing to go for dinner and overnight again for 250. I don't know anywhere else where one can find a young hottie willing to spend an entire evening and night for 250. Great time again and full GFE experience.
I found SA easy to navigate and had a myriad of different responses. From 150 for a couple of hours to 250 for dinner and multiple hours / overnight all the way up to 1000 for dinner and 3-4 hours. In some markets that would be a steal, but given the multitude of choices in Lisbon, they must be targeting business guys that fail to do their research.
In any event, great trip, looking forward to returning again.
Stirling.[/QUOTE]
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Hi All,
Have been following this forum very closely for the past month or so.
I think I've managed to grasp the where to go and who to go with. Thanks for all the reports!
I will be in Lisbon for a week in Mid-June, so hoping I can see some action and revert back with any feedback.
From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?
Thanks again.
[QUOTE=Harry1217;2819799]Thank you for the reports on SA and Francisca Vilar. Great to hear that you had such a good trip.
Francisca Vilar has two sets of pictures on EP, as do some other girls (whilst others have different pictures across different websites). She looks more attractive on the top set of pictures, but from your report I suspect the bottom set is more representative.
Your report on SA has given me food for thought. I've considered it before, but always ended up opting for the convenience of booking escorts. I've also worried about the risks of meeting a complete stranger via SA I've seen scams and worse reported.
I agree that 250 for dinner and an overnight with a hot young lady, is good. The real value is when having overnights (for shorter bookings it's not such a discount to escort rates). Suspect that my reluctance for overnights may mean I don't do SA but you've got me thinking again!
Similar SA rates have been reported in places like Barcelona but a chap on another board who has used SA in various European countries, has reported that Lisbon is one of the best both for quality of girls and also rates. London has a bigger pool of ladies to choose from, as you'd expect, but a common overnight rate appears to be e500-600, and he reports that you have to scroll through more ladies in London to find the attractive ones.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=JohnD00;2820067]Hi All,
Have been following this forum very closely for the past month or so.
I think I've managed to grasp the where to go and who to go with. Thanks for all the reports!
I will be in Lisbon for a week in Mid-June, so hoping I can see some action and revert back with any feedback.
From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]It stands for Seeking Arrangement. You can read the Seeking Arrangement forum here on ISG to more fully grasp the concepts.
You need to pay a fee and join Seeking Arrangement in order to view profiles. You will then be able to converse with the ladies. Any discussion of sex should be done outside of the Seeking Arrangement messaging system. Incredibly and probably idiotically, SA is USA Based and they need to avoid any connection with sex for money.
In theory, you are going on a date when using SA. Ideally, that date will involve a meal, companionship and sex.
Sometimes sex does not occur. That makes the times and relationships in which good sex does occur more valuable. If you ever played a game of chance at a county or state fair, you can appreciate the concept. Can't value winners without you and the crowd seeing some losers.
Let me be a skeptic when it comes to Lisbon and SA with respect to a short-term visitor.
In theory, according to the SA proponents, the women are not hookers. You will hear this most often from guys frequenting countries, particularly Mexico, where there exist a multitude of lower-end, less-educated, sex workers who would simply be incapable of maintaining a conversation in English with a traveler from the first world. SA provides a mechanism for "upper-end" sex workers to have relationships that are more like dating with wealthier tourists, many of whom spend a significant length of time there. Another country in which SA is popular is the United States. It is very difficult administratively for a lady to do independent escorting in the USA There are plenty to choose from, but due to the administrative hassles such as screening, USA Independent escorts charge a lot. USA Law enforcement has taken a complete hands-off approach to SA. So it has provided a mechanism for many ladies to effectively do sex work without concerns regarding law enforcement. Sex work is frowned upon throughout the world, so the dining, conversing, and potential for a quasi-relationship with a "regular" seems to provide some psychological benefit of her not "feeling like a hooker", and it seems that not "feeling like a John" does likewise for many guys.
Now, let's cut to the chase in Lisbon for a tourist. You need to ask yourself if you are going to be there long enough to not be emotionally devastated if you are the unlucky player at the carnival game who does not when the stuffed animal prize. In other words, what if you take her for a nice meal, and she just says thanks and nothing else happens? Not terribly likely, but it could occur.
You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.
You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.
It is likely the same with SA. Sure there are women on Lisbon SA that do not work as escorts, but there are some who do. Many of us had a favorite Montreal escort who was a true stunner and a chameleon. She worked at an escort service during the day, often as an independent some evenings, did webcam most nights, and juggled twelve Sugar Daddies, several of whom thought she was exclusive with them. I am not sure she really intended for her customers to repeat that when doing reviews on the local Montreal board. She used more names than that chick we all studied about in high school psychology class, Sybil. Every market has plenty of chameleon escorts, including Lisbon. When doing SA they will not tell you they work as escorts. They will do the innocent little girl routine.
Lisbon doesn't have a poverty driven caste system for its sex workers like Mexico does. It isn't that difficult to find an English speaking escort to converse with for an hour or two in your room during sex. If you want that companionship to extend beyond your room, it isn't that difficult to find ones who will do long-term sessions that would include dinner and tourism. You aren't there to find your next kept woman, and you aren't likely wealthy enough to accomplish that anyway. While Lisbon does not have the barriers to entry for sex work that the USA And France do, it does, like all countries, have some barriers to entry, so there will certainly be some non-chameleon SA ladies.
The bottom line is this. SA has provided a very easy to use mechanism for educated, often younger, ladies to do sex work that does not feel to them like sex work. If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want. But that is just my opinion, and plenty of SA proponents would disagree. But that determination is still country specific. And Portugal is simply different than Mexico, the United States and France, and any other country you can think of.
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[QUOTE=JohnD00;2820067]From below. I think it's the first time I've seen 'SA' being mentioned. Can anyone help to provide more info on what 'SA' stands for?
Thanks again.[/QUOTE]Seeking Arrangement, the sugar baby dating site.
This is the best route to go if you think you would enjoy a more open, date format where you go out, enjoy some company and have a near-guaranteed hook-up. Selection also works (or can work) as if you were on a normal dating app -- you can feel out prospective "sugar babies" by messaging or even facetime. They often prefer it. The caveats are:
1) She does reserve the option of backing out. It's uncommon and she doesn't get paid, but it does happen. The flip side is you can back out freely too. This isn't a professional thing. It's amateur hour.
2) Because it's amateur hour, they aren't going to take requests unless it's something they genuinely want to do (A-level, etc.).
3) Since most of these women have day jobs and / or kids, their schedule isn't as open. Availability is mostly at night and you'll need to plan things like on a date. Spur of the moment stuff is less possible. This is where I run into problems, because I am usually available during the daytime and rarely know when until the day before or day of. Like I wrote, I would prefer the SA route under different circumstances. Mine don't work well for it.
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You, Sir, have my recognition.
Thanks for the extensive explanation you've given. I couldn't ask for anything better.
I've now had a look at SA. And yes following your comments, given that I'll be in Lisbon for only a few days, it might not make sense for me to fork out the 300 or so Euros for a one time subs + then trying to fish out someone; I'm not a looker appearance wise, so I might not end up lucky after all.
So yea, basically. I'll stick to the reviews you good guys have generously provided throughout this forum.
And I'll be back for sure to give my 2 cents on how it went.
Once again, Mongerer88, thanks for that thorough explanation. I'm sure it'll be helpful to many others reading through.
Peace.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2820178]It stands for Seeking Arrangement. You can read the Seeking Arrangement forum here on ISG to more fully grasp the concepts.
You need to pay a fee and join Seeking Arrangement in order to view profiles. You will then be able to converse with the ladies. Any discussion of sex should be done outside of the Seeking Arrangement messaging system. Incredibly and probably idiotically, SA is USA Based and they need to avoid any connection with sex for money.
In theory, you are going on a date when using SA. Ideally, that date will involve a meal, companionship and sex.
Sometimes sex does not occur. That makes the times and relationships in which good sex does occur more valuable. If you ever played a game of chance at a county or state fair, you can appreciate the concept. Can't value winners without you and the crowd seeing some losers.
Let me be a skeptic when it comes to Lisbon and SA with respect to a short-term visitor.
In theory, according to the SA proponents, the women are not hookers. You will hear this most often from guys frequenting countries, particularly Mexico, where there exist a multitude of lower-end, less-educated, sex workers who would simply be incapable of maintaining a conversation in English with a traveler from the first world. SA provides a mechanism for "upper-end" sex workers to have relationships that are more like dating with wealthier tourists, many of whom spend a significant length of time there. Another country in which SA is popular is the United States. It is very difficult administratively for a lady to do independent escorting in the USA There are plenty to choose from, but due to the administrative hassles such as screening, USA Independent escorts charge a lot. USA Law enforcement has taken a complete hands-off approach to SA. So it has provided a mechanism for many ladies to effectively do sex work without concerns regarding law enforcement. Sex work is frowned upon throughout the world, so the dining, conversing, and potential for a quasi-relationship with a "regular" seems to provide some psychological benefit of her not "feeling like a hooker", and it seems that not "feeling like a John" does likewise for many guys.
Now, let's cut to the chase in Lisbon for a tourist. You need to ask yourself if you are going to be there long enough to not be emotionally devastated if you are the unlucky player at the carnival game who does not when the stuffed animal prize. In other words, what if you take her for a nice meal, and she just says thanks and nothing else happens? Not terribly likely, but it could occur.
You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.
You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.
It is likely the same with SA. Sure there are women on Lisbon SA that do not work as escorts, but there are some who do. Many of us had a favorite Montreal escort who was a true stunner and a chameleon. She worked at an escort service during the day, often as an independent some evenings, did webcam most nights, and juggled twelve Sugar Daddies, several of whom thought she was exclusive with them. I am not sure she really intended for her customers to repeat that when doing reviews on the local Montreal board. She used more names than that chick we all studied about in high school psychology class, Sybil. Every market has plenty of chameleon escorts, including Lisbon. When doing SA they will not tell you they work as escorts. They will do the innocent little girl routine.
Lisbon doesn't have a poverty driven caste system for its sex workers like Mexico does. It isn't that difficult to find an English speaking escort to converse with for an hour or two in your room during sex. If you want that companionship to extend beyond your room, it isn't that difficult to find ones who will do long-term sessions that would include dinner and tourism. You aren't there to find your next kept woman, and you aren't likely wealthy enough to accomplish that anyway. While Lisbon does not have the barriers to entry for sex work that the USA And France do, it does, like all countries, have some barriers to entry, so there will certainly be some non-chameleon SA ladies.
The bottom line is this. SA has provided a very easy to use mechanism for educated, often younger, ladies to do sex work that does not feel to them like sex work. If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want. But that is just my opinion, and plenty of SA proponents would disagree. But that determination is still country specific. And Portugal is simply different than Mexico, the United States and France, and any other country you can think of.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks to you also, ExExpatriate, for providing an explanation when requested. And to the many advice you've given out through this forum. Been reading a lot of your posts for the past month.
As mentioned in the other reply. I'll be sticking to the reports you all lot have been providing on already tried and tested ladies out there.
Cheers.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2820270]Seeking Arrangement, the sugar baby dating site.
This is the best route to go if you think you would enjoy a more open, date format where you go out, enjoy some company and have a near-guaranteed hook-up. Selection also works (or can work) as if you were on a normal dating app -- you can feel out prospective "sugar babies" by messaging or even facetime. They often prefer it. The caveats are:
1) She does reserve the option of backing out. It's uncommon and she doesn't get paid, but it does happen. The flip side is you can back out freely too. This isn't a professional thing. It's amateur hour.
2) Because it's amateur hour, they aren't going to take requests unless it's something they genuinely want to do (A-level, etc.).
3) Since most of these women have day jobs and / or kids, their schedule isn't as open. Availability is mostly at night and you'll need to plan things like on a date. Spur of the moment stuff is less possible. This is where I run into problems, because I am usually available during the daytime and rarely know when until the day before or day of. Like I wrote, I would prefer the SA route under different circumstances. Mine don't work well for it.[/QUOTE]
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Yes, for bookings / meets of 1-2 hours, many people may consider that they want the certainty of a well-reviewed escort. However, I can see people rolling the SA dice if they want outcall bookings of several hours or overnights; the EP rate for overnights is 1200 whereas people are reporting SA overnights at 250 - that is quite a difference! I say outcall bookings because the escort incall rates for overnights appear to be far less than 1200, making SA less financially beneficial.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2820178]It stands for Seeking Arrangement.
You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism.
If you go through the hassles of communicating with them, and accept the risk of a disappointment occurring, you might snag a great evening with a college-aged lady who might not have otherwise done escorting. In my personal opinion, for Lisbon, it is not worth the effort and possibility of disappointment, compared to booking a reviewed and recommended escort for whatever time and activities you want. [/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2820178]
You need to ask yourself if you value the time and companionship that occurs other than sex. If so, that is great, but also ask yourself if you would prefer the certainty of booking a well-reviewed escort who is known to speak English for a long enough period of time to include a meal and perhaps some tourism. There are an endless number of them. Several EP ladies, and independents such as Carolina Belmont and Rebeca Diniz are good candidates also.
You will never convince me that many of the ladies on SA in Lisbon are not also working as escorts. One humorous post on the local board regarding the Lisbon dinner clubs involved a local John figuring out which ladies in their nice evening dresses worked as incall escorts during the day offering 30 minute sessions.
[/QUOTE]Good essay, Mongerer. I'll just add / confirm a couple of things.
Hiring and outcall escort for a date is expensive. One can and should neogitate, but lets say you were trying this with Carolina Belmont, and asked for four hours. She would start by asking for 800 euros. (because she's been trying to apply a tourist tax lately). Compare that against 250-300 flat going rate for SA. The ladies negotiate over these longer periods, but that is what you'd most likely be climbing her down from.
So for the dating style format, the only guy who should call someone like Carolina is one who is already staying at the Four Seasons. Ha!
I can confirm that many -- but certainly not most -- girls on SA are either current or former escorts. When I gave it a try a few years ago, I saw several familiar photos and faces. Most, however, were "retired. " They weren't advertising as escorts or massagistas on the regular advertising sites anymore. I suppose you could say they were still escorting, via SA, but infrequently and with the liberty of screening and declining clients.
I mentioned my semi-retired lady? She is exactly the type who might have switched to SA for a time... except she didn't need to. She had some old clients who could see her during her former incall hours, she genuinely liked them, and she treated it in a way that didn't feel like the job anymore. So she would make some time from her day job for it.
I firmly agree about the time angle. It's why I don't pursue SA. One would need to be in Lisbon for at least several days and have full command over their time to make good use of the SA format.
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Been looking around further. And apart from SA. I found there's another sugardaddy like app. SB -Secret Benefits- is that used in Portugal also? Or any others like SA?
Of course apart from Tinder and OKCupid.
I will be having nearly 3 full days by myself with 3 days busy with work during the day with free evenings. Hopefully will be able to have some nice time.
Cheers all.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2820876]Good essay, Mongerer. I'll just add / confirm a couple of things.
Hiring and outcall escort for a date is expensive. One can and should neogitate, but lets say you were trying this with Carolina Belmont, and asked for four hours. She would start by asking for 800 euros. (because she's been trying to apply a tourist tax lately). Compare that against 250-300 flat going rate for SA. The ladies negotiate over these longer periods, but that is what you'd most likely be climbing her down from.
So for the dating style format, the only guy who should call someone like Carolina is one who is already staying at the Four Seasons. Ha!
I can confirm that many -- but certainly not most -- girls on SA are either current or former escorts. When I gave it a try a few years ago, I saw several familiar photos and faces. Most, however, were "retired. " They weren't advertising as escorts or massagistas on the regular advertising sites anymore. I suppose you could say they were still escorting, via SA, but infrequently and with the liberty of screening and declining clients..[/QUOTE]
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SA debate
Lots of discussion and all good points. I believe Lisbon is the perfect city for SA. From my point of view, there was little financial risk. As mentioned in my previous post, I secured the company of young women for dinner and overnight stays for 250. Now, I planned on going out for dinner anyway, so all I had to bear was the additional cost for another individual. If, after dinner, she bailed, so be it. The date essentially would have cost me nothing and I had the enjoyment of a dinner companion. And, on returning to my room I could have called one of the available ladies on Apartadox or EP. Fortunately for me, all 3 dates worked out perfectly.
In other large centers where the ask is significantly larger, the risk might be amplified. However, given the relatively cheap cost associated with mongering in Lisbon, seemed like a worthwhile risk in my opinion.
P.S. As to whether the ladies I saw where escorts or former escorts. The first lady I have no idea, but I wouldn't be shocked tom learn she was a former working girl. The 2nd lady I saw, not a chance. She's a young ex-pat recently arrived in Lisbon.
Stirling.
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Clarification
When I tried the SA thing, I wrote many of the ladies were active or inactive escorts. Being as familiar as I am and having a long memory, I ran into at least one familiar face on every page of the SA search engine, and often more than one. Even so, it was well under half the total. 1/5 or 1/4 would be more accurate.
Within the group that were familiar from escort ads, most were inactives.
I didn't mean to imply most of the girls on SA were current or former escorts. Quite the contrary. Pros are a noticeable percentage, but not an overwhelming presence.
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Thanks for additional comments Stirling.
I've seen on the other countries / locations boards that the guys were sharing the links of the SA ladies.
Don't know if that is allowed over here. But would you be willing to share the ones you got lucky with?
At 250 for overnight. It does really make it worthwhile.
As it stands. I might be going towards the mixed route of trying SA + the vetted ladies from EP already posted over here.
Cheers to all again.
[QUOTE=Stirling;2821068]Lots of discussion and all good points. I believe Lisbon is the perfect city for SA. From my point of view, there was little financial risk. As mentioned in my previous post, I secured the company of young women for dinner and overnight stays for 250. Now, I planned on going out for dinner anyway, so all I had to bear was the additional cost for another individual. If, after dinner, she bailed, so be it. The date essentially would have cost me nothing and I had the enjoyment of a dinner companion. And, on returning to my room I could have called one of the available ladies on Apartadox or EP. Fortunately for me, all 3 dates worked out perfectly.
In other large centers where the ask is significantly larger, the risk might be amplified. However, given the relatively cheap cost associated with mongering in Lisbon, seemed like a worthwhile risk in my opinion.
P.S. As to whether the ladies I saw where escorts or former escorts. The first lady I have no idea, but I wouldn't be shocked tom learn she was a former working girl. The 2nd lady I saw, not a chance. She's a young ex-pat recently arrived in Lisbon..[/QUOTE]
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Sa
[QUOTE=JohnD00;2821339]Thanks for additional comments Stirling.
I've seen on the other countries / locations boards that the guys were sharing the links of the SA ladies.
Don't know if that is allowed over here. But would you be willing to share the ones you got lucky with?
At 250 for overnight. It does really make it worthwhile.
As it stands. I might be going towards the mixed route of trying SA + the vetted ladies from EP already posted over here.
Cheers to all again.[/QUOTE]Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.
Stirling.
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No street workers found in Lisbon
[QUOTE=Koki9290;2814901]I was wandering around the area east of Martim Monz last night around 10 pm and saw no streetwalkers. Lots of guys in the streets hanging out and drinking but no action that I could discern. I'll check out Eduardo VII, Rua do Conde de Redonde and Anjos in the next couple of days because I'm staying nearby. Mansanto Forest is huge and wouldn't know where to begin.[/QUOTE]I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.
I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.
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Cheers mate.
Will try my luck and report back with anything.
[QUOTE=Stirling;2822202]Hi JohnDOO, I had a quick look on SA and the profiles of the ladies I saw are currently not there. I suspect they only reactivate them when they're looking for a date.
Stirling.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Stradivari;2822458]I was trying the area of Martim Moniz and Intendente three times at around 7 pm, 9:30 pm and around midnight. No WG to be seen except some very sincere drug users at a bus stop called "Socorro" / Rua the Mouraria. I walked some 100 ft down the are. Dos Cavaleiros but I started feeling unsecure and turned around.
I cannot imagine that a huge city like lisbon has nothing more than the escort scene but I did not discover it. And, in fact, I did very well with the escorts I tried, at least with Bela Soares.[/QUOTE]But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2822875]But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".[/QUOTE]That's bad news for the lovers of the street scene but good news for the girls, all in total a good reason to be happy. Still astonishing that it happened. What is special with Lisbon that they managed to achieve what many other large cities did not achieve? But this is going off topic now.
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I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.
I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2822875]But that's exactly the point: because the vast majority of escorts has managed to make a living working from appartments with no need of the harsh scene of SW, this is quickly vanishing. Intendente, for instance has become a trendy cafe / restaurants spot for tourists with only the odd junkie as a souvenir of the "bad ole times".[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2823025]I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.
I know it was alive and well a decade ago. Although I have always disdained that sort of thing, I would cross a major SW area on my way home. It was hard to miss. I also remember seeing these SW hanging out in front of isolated back roads in different areas, places one would cross when going to the more remote beaches. So clearly the locals knew where to go look for them.[/QUOTE]It is disappearing worldwide, thank god.
[URL]https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/why-sex-workers-are-disappearing-from-our-streets/662JRP6FHESOSS6G64YROT65N4/[/URL]
I can't think of an advantage to its existence for anyone, particularly the sex workers.
Where it still appears to exist in Europe are places where there are women who simply have no resources at all, not even the funds to take out an advertisement and accept appointments on a smart phone. Of course some seed capital is necessary for incall or transportation to outcall.
Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2823029]Portugal seems to either forcibly detract, or not be desirable to, the lowest rung of the scene. It does not have the Asian massage places where the women live and work at the facility, eating their meals from a portable hot stove, just as it doesn't get Roma streetwalkers to join the last ranks of the few drug-addicted women still on the streets. I don't know if the relatively low Portugal price of a mid-to-upper level sex worker (compared to the rest of Europe and the Western World) simply makes Portugal of no interest to dirt poor Asian ladies and the gypsies, or if Portugal Vice has a way of shutting it down that isn't publicized.[/QUOTE]It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.
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[QUOTE=RedIce7;2823096]It died out because of internet. Before internet era girls had to actually go look for customers, now customers find them through online ads and WP. It's safer and more discrete and I like it more this way because street walkers would attract pimps and other shady individuals. If someone wants to see girl actually before you can go to brothels pretending to be massage spas, city center is filled with them. It allows the business to operate in higher-end areas of the city (like Saldanha) or residential buildings and attract customers that want to discrete.[/QUOTE]To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal. While there are many fictions for working around this, it still leaves plenty of safe space for independents to operate without fear of being harassed by organized crime.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2823025]I would be glad to see it wither away, at least for Lisbon. I imagine it will persist in other parts of the country.[/QUOTE]Yes, I was talking about Lisbon, the city itself. It still exists - even if less and less - along some roads nearing the larger towns.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2823174]To that I would also add the legalization of the sex work, while leaving pimping / brothels illegal. [/QUOTE]Sex work was not and is not legal or illegal. It is in a comfortably grey area where girls are free to work. Brothel owners and pimping are illegal.
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Looking for advice on short term hotel for outcall
[QUOTE=ShinyCrazy;2813127]Complete Idiot's Guide to Lisbon.
After reading the last 50 pages of the forum, I compiled a list of possible girls. I received some very helpful feedback from ISG members and even some contact details for a well-reviewed girl who doesn't advertise anymore. Since you can't guarantee that a specific girl will be available on a specific day, I created a long list with backup options. Most of the action in Lisbon (and Portugal in general) is independent escorts that advertise on two primary websites, Escort Privada and Apartadox. The girls on Escort Privada go to your hotel and charge 150 Euros per hour which usually includes DFK and BBBJ / CIM. The girls on Apartadox are a little cheaper at 120 Euros per hour and work out of "trick pads" or their own apartment. The Apartadox girls seem to have a shorter workday, often ending by 6 pm. That makes daytime tourism activities more difficult. Most Escort Privada girls were able to come to my hotel at 8 pm for 2 hours, which worked better with my schedule..[/QUOTE]This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.
Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much!
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[QUOTE=AkSmith;2823774]This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.
Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much![/QUOTE]1) Call outcall-only escorts. Right now that means the Escort Privada girls and Catia Bom.
You don't want to bother with asking a primarily incall lady to do this, because the mark-up is steep and the chance she'll flake on you is higher.
2) You have a narrow window. Ask for appointments the day before. Most escorts are happy to take a booking one day in advance.
Unless your hotel is down by Entrecampos, Saldanha or Expo, I wouldn't bother with incall. Six hours... assuming time for a little rest, getting cleaned up, taking in a meal... you don't have much left for finding a house and getting in a good f*ck. The Uber/Taxi to and from the airport alone could chew up 40+ minutes. It's hemmed in and could be hectic UNLESS you can already walk there in like 10 minutes.
As for a low cost hotel, check the Star Inn. It's within walking distance of the airport, and the rate there is usually pretty low. Don't worry about hourly. Just get it and enjoy having the space to unwind in for several hours. The places that do charge hourly... well, the better ones are pretty far from the airport. The time and hassle might not be worth saving like 40 euros.
The elevator there is locked, but that only means you'll meet your company in the lobby. That is a common condition of these things. No one will bother you.
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[QUOTE=AkSmith;2823774]This is a great source of information. Really appreciate it! I have a 6 hour layover in Lisbon and would like to get some outcall action based on your reviews from EP. Issue is that I don't have an overnight hotel and not sure if there are any hotels that let you book a room by the hour like in BCN. Have heard about Safira guesthouse, but not too sure how it would work out.
Any advice on how to do an outcall in this situation? Or what would be recommendation on incalls? Thanks much![/QUOTE]Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.
Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.
[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre[/URL]
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I'll be more specific here. I'm aware of three hourly rate "love motels," and all of them are in the exurbs. All of them are far enough out of the city that EP girls want travel money. Those look nice or very nice, but the minimum charge is for three or four hours, so the Uber + room + travel money for the girls will absolutely cost more than the Star Inn by the airport. Plus the inconvenience and lost travel time. I really think that is barking up the wrong tree, but EP may have workable solutions.
I just think you need to also treat your time as a commodity. Don't do stuff that unnecessarily whittles down your six hours. You may need them.
In Lisbon proper, the only hourly rate place I'm aware of is so seedy that I can only say "don't go there. " I feel strongly enough about it to refuse identification. And again, what is one really saving by taking an Uber back and forth from a bedbug-ridden flophouse in downtown Lisbon?
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2823920]Yes, Lisbon has short-time motels, which is how locals access EP.
Just ask EP for a recommendation regarding hotels. Send your WhatsApp message to Joanna's number. It is okay to do so in English. When Joanna is not personally monitoring her phone, the assistant that helps her is the most responsive. The advantage of a group like EP is that there are multiple ladies they can send if someone flakes.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
For independents with a current ad who have great reviews and a history of being professional and diligent, this independent is one of the least likely to flake on you if you need an exact time for an appointment.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
Six hours is a short time frame. Some have had great luck going to the Nuru Spa (try to call or WhatsApp them before hand and explain your situation and request the Relaxing Massage). Don't be too explicit regarding sex. Most appear to do BBBJ and CFS but technically they are not allowed to do so in a licensed massage parlor, so be discreet in communicating.
[URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en/sobre[/URL][/QUOTE]
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I suspect Carolina Belmont has done a name change, and is now Lara Cortez.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2825237]I suspect Carolina Belmont has done a name change, and is now Lara Cortez.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973[/URL][/QUOTE]It's Camila Pereira in the infamous EP blonde wig. Exact same physical stats as the previous profile.
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I will be in Lisbon at the end of June for 48 hours.
As it is my first time there I was wondering if I could ask some stupid questions.
Do the girls provide STI reports, or more so, how comfortable are you all that the girls are clean?
I am 100% clean. Even Herpes is something I am extremely concerned about staying away from. In Thailand the cost is low and taking girls to tests is super fast and efficient but I can't imagine that is the case in lisbon.
How far in advance do you need to book usually? I have a wish list based on the last 30 pages of this thread. I don't want to book two weeks early but I don't want to book to late and miss who I want.
I am happy to pay a premium for clean.
Lastly, do you have any recommendations for girls under 25 that are pretty slim and energetic.
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I've never heard of a lady providing an STI test result on demand, let alone a recent one. As a rule, the ladies do put a high premium on hygenie. Some insist on covered oral, which should tell you how seriously those that do take the issue in general.
That said, just because it isn't spoken of doesn't mean it isn't possible. I don't think it would hurt to ask, but I advise you to be as polite/respectful as possible. Lead with your concerns. You don't want to come off as accusing someone of being a dirty *****, which is how it could be received.
Whenever I see someone on a forum asking why anybody would want a nuru massage ending only with an HJ or oral, no FS at all, your concern is the reason why. Some people have very low or zero tolerance for STI risk. Oral is very low risk and HJ is zero risk. The main clientele for those services either don't see it as cheating or want to reduce the risks of bringing something home down to none.
[QUOTE=Jportlis;2825360]I will be in Lisbon at the end of June for 48 hours.
As it is my first time there I was wondering if I could ask some stupid questions.
Do the girls provide STI reports, or more so, how comfortable are you all that the girls are clean?
I am 100% clean. Even Herpes is something I am extremely concerned about staying away from. In Thailand the cost is low and taking girls to tests is super fast and efficient but I can't imagine that is the case in lisbon.
How far in advance do you need to book usually? I have a wish list based on the last 30 pages of this thread. I don't want to book two weeks early but I don't want to book to late and miss who I want.
I am happy to pay a premium for clean.
Lastly, do you have any recommendations for girls under 25 that are pretty slim and energetic.[/QUOTE]
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Lisbon Trip report
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2824065]I'll be more specific here. I'm aware of three hourly rate "love motels," and all of them are in the exurbs. All of them are far enough out of the city that EP girls want travel money. Those look nice or very nice, but the minimum charge is for three or four hours, so the Uber + room + travel money for the girls will absolutely cost more than the Star Inn by the airport. Plus the inconvenience and lost travel time. I really think that is barking up the wrong tree, but EP may have workable solutions.
I just think you need to also treat your time as a commodity. Don't do stuff that unnecessarily whittles down your six hours. You may need them.
In Lisbon proper, the only hourly rate place I'm aware of is so seedy that I can only say "don't go there. " I feel strongly enough about it to refuse identification. And again, what is one really saving by taking an Uber back and forth from a bedbug-ridden flophouse in downtown Lisbon?[/QUOTE]So I took all this advice into consideration and booked a hotel near the airport. Star Inn unfortunately was sold out for my dates but the one I got was 20 minutes from airport. I then reached out to a lot of the providers on EP on the day before, got some replies and few who said they could meet, but that they would confirm on the morning of. I started panicking the next day since I didn't have any confirmations and then ended up with Pureza Villar at short notice. My flight was delayed so the layover timing shrunk on me which is another thing that needs to be considered. She was Ok, the photos on EP are from few years ago. She was very friendly and accommodating, not going into too many details of the encounter.
The thing to be careful about in these circumstances is that there is no guarantee you will get someone who is a stunner, even after doing all the research and being selective. At the end of the day you just have to accept what it is (specially when you have a short window). Good luck to everyone!
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Thanks for the reply.
My issue is bringing something home. That is the only no-go.
As a rule, and knowing no one will want to answer this, how many here have an STI, including herpes?
I will message a couple and gauge the best way to ask.
Where is the recommended hotel to stay at? I would also like to take in some of the regular sights and tourist things within walking distance.
I will use outcall only. Will always pay a premium for hygiene.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2825408]I've never heard of a lady providing an STI test result on demand, let alone a recent one. As a rule, the ladies do put a high premium on hygenie. Some insist on covered oral, which should tell you how seriously those that do take the issue in general.
That said, just because it isn't spoken of doesn't mean it isn't possible. I don't think it would hurt to ask, but I advise you to be as polite/respectful as possible. Lead with your concerns. You don't want to come off as accusing someone of being a dirty *****, which is how it could be received.
Whenever I see someone on a forum asking why anybody would want a nuru massage ending only with an HJ or oral, no FS at all, your concern is the reason why. Some people have very low or zero tolerance for STI risk. Oral is very low risk and HJ is zero risk. The main clientele for those services either don't see it as cheating or want to reduce the risks of bringing something home down to none.[/QUOTE]
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Any walk in brothels / clubs
I will be visiting for holiday reasons.
Are there any clubs / brothels one can walk in and see girls available for sex typical Spanish style / prices 70-100 Euros etc.
Clubs that also double as strip clubs or just a normal walk in and line up of girls type set up?
Thanks.
Wouldn't say no to online / whatsapp website escorts if anyone has recommendations also but prefer a walk in venue.
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[QUOTE=Jportlis;2825629]
As a rule, and knowing no one will want to answer this, how many here have an STI, including herpes?[/QUOTE]It is not a case of "not wanting to answer" but of the impossibility of doing it. Unless one of us has ever been infected with this or that disease (I haven't) and knows whom he got it from, the girls are certainly not going to declare they 're a dangerous proposition.
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To be specific, I was wondering how many members here have caught an STI. BBBJ seems super popular here and Herpes is for life so I was just wondering.
And to my other question: Where is the best place to stay for outcall and to do some tourist sight seeing. Ideally 4-5 star. Just don't want outcall girls to say it is too far from where I am.
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2825777]It is not a case of "not wanting to answer" but of the impossibility of doing it. Unless one of us has ever been infected with this or that disease (I haven't) and knows whom he got it from, the girls are certainly not going to declare they 're a dangerous proposition.[/QUOTE]
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On the one hand, I think some participants in forums like this one are too dismissive of STI risks, and engage in kidding themselves. To answer your question directly, both HSV-1 and 2 can infect other parts of the body, so strictly speaking it is possible for oral herpes to get onto your genitals, although this is rare. Generally speaking, it is rare or only theoretical for any STI to transmit through oral, but it can happen. I am pretty sure I got chlamydia once from oral. It's important when talking about probabilities to realize you can have that extremely unlucky roll of the dice on your first go. Unlikely doesn't mean impossible.
The flip side of this is to realize that if you have had or do have a reasonably active single and dating life, you have already been exposed to and possibly contracted HSV and / or HPV already. Depending on the modeling, between 4/5's and 1/6 of the population has HPV already. And between 1/4 and 1/10 have genital herpes. If you've had several partners already, one of them was absolutely carrying one or the other. But the majority of people infected never display symptoms or display mild symptoms that then go away permanently.
I keep both these things in mind and more when making my choices.
As for location, anywhere in central Lisbon will be fine. If you are looking at 4 and 5 stars, then the girls will go to pretty much anywhere those can be found without complaint.
[QUOTE=Jportlis;2825997]To be specific, I was wondering how many members here have caught an STI. BBBJ seems super popular here and Herpes is for life so I was just wondering.
And to my other question: Where is the best place to stay for outcall and to do some tourist sight seeing. Ideally 4-5 star. Just don't want outcall girls to say it is too far from where I am.[/QUOTE]
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Trip Report. April 2023
Hello All, apologies for being late posting and thanks to all of the members who helped! Special thanks to ExExpatriate who guided me to how to book for an outcall. It was my first time in Lisbon and had pretty good expereince, I won't lie! I had been to Thailand, I would say if you can streamline your selection of girls, you will end up with the best ones! In my experience, it's nothing much short of my experience in Thailand!
1. YU Ferracini: It was outcall. She looks life the picture. English is fantastic as she was in England. Booking was super easy. Fantastic body as like the picture, attitude is top notch, kissing is very good. Only thing is that it's CBJ. She won't do BBBJ. Other than that she ticks all of the boxes. Rate- HH 90 bucks.
2. Patricia Navarro: It was outcall, rate was 80/ HH. Again, fantastic attitude, body is amazing. Boobs are not natural, BBBJ if you are clean. I think I was clean to her. LOL. Again fantastic service, but matains the timing very well. Like 30 minutes means 30 minutes.
3. Andreia Martins: Incall, rate was 150 for an hour. I managed only 1 shot. She is not super clean, but has very bubbly body. Not that beautiful, like the other 2's. But, the best BBBJ you can expect, nice ass for doggy. Attitude is not bad. I would repeat, just need to confirm that she takes a shower and can't kiss for long as she is a smoker, I guess!
4. Karol Prado: Outcall, rate was 60/ HH. The apartment was small, but clean! English is good as she was also in England. She provides ok service, body is like a true Brazilian. Attitude is fantastic, ask for what do you like or not! BBBJ is not that great, but overall service is ok. May repeat as she is GFE.
5. Eva Sanchez: Outcall, RR was 80/ HH. She has a body to die for! BBBJ is great! Very nice apartment. Service was a but mechanical! But, I won't repeat as the service is quite mechanical, bit if anyone wants to try a body to die for, then can try for once! LOL.
6. Yola Lopez: Black girl! RR was 80/ HH. Apartment is quite worn down! Attitude is awesome! You don't need to F* her, she will F* you, she is crazy! Believe me! Like a pornstar and will break your the*k! BBBJ is amazing! But, won't repeat as I didn't like the apartment! Got a bad smell!
Feel free to take any Qs if you have any! Thanks again.
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Trip Report. April
Being too late at posting my experience in Lisbon for the first time. I found the experience quite great! Thanks to members for all the members for sharing such valuable info. And, special thanks to ExExpatriate for providing some detailed info on arranging for outcall.
Yu Ferracini: outcall-90/ HH, such a nice personality, body is like picture, provides great service and English is very good, very clean and apartment is also nice. Only negative is CBJ. Other than that she is amazing! GFE experience! I would say 9/10.
Patricia Navarro: Another amazing lady, outcall-80/ HH; amazing body, pornstar experience, BBBJ if you are clean, I guess I was clean. Only drawback is boobs are not natural and maintains time very cautiously, like 30 minutes means 30 minutes; rating- 10/10 due to the overall experience.
Andriea Martins: Compared to the other 2 lady mentioned above, she is not upto the par! Her breath is not well as I do think she smokes! Not very attractive, except nice ass! But, her BBBJ is top notch! You will enjoy it to the last! And, for doggy, she is great! Rating: 7/10, repeat probably due to her BJ skill.
Eva Sanchez: Again, another killer body. Outcall for 80/ HH. Excellent apartment and she is very clean! Fantastic body. But, performance is quite mechanical, I would give 8/10, but won't repeat as performance is quite mechanical and not GFE! If you want a pornstar experience, then you try for one time!
Karol Prado: Very nice lady and amazing personality! English is good! 60/ HH incall. Body is amazing and same like picture! BBBJ skill is ok. But, she can provide great GFE experience. Rating 8/10 because of her attitude, not a time watcher as well. Rating- 8/10.
Yola Lopes: Amazing lady, body is ok. But, her performance is mazing, BBBJ skill is top notch! You don't need to F**K her, she will F*K you! LOL. But, I won't repeat cause the apartment is not clean and I got very bad smell! Other than that she is great! Rating-9/10.
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I think you may be flipping the terms. Outcall is when the lady comes to your place. Incall is when you go to hers. But otherwise, thanks for the report.
[QUOTE=Jacob8031;2827271]Being too late at posting my experience in Lisbon for the first time. I found the experience quite great! Thanks to members for all the members for sharing such valuable info. And, special thanks to ExExpatriate for providing some detailed info on arranging for outcall.
Yu Ferracini: outcall-90/ HH, such a nice personality, body is like picture, provides great service and English is very good, very clean and apartment is also nice. Only negative is CBJ. Other than that she is amazing! GFE experience! I would say 9/10.
Patricia Navarro: Another amazing lady, outcall-80/ HH; amazing body, pornstar experience, BBBJ if you are clean, I guess I was clean. Only drawback is boobs are not natural and maintains time very cautiously, like 30 minutes means 30 minutes; rating- 10/10 due to the overall experience.
Andriea Martins: Compared to the other 2 lady mentioned above, she is not upto the par! Her breath is not well as I do think she smokes! Not very attractive, except nice ass! But, her BBBJ is top notch! You will enjoy it to the last! And, for doggy, she is great! Rating: 7/10, repeat probably due to her BJ skill.
Eva Sanchez: Again, another killer body. Outcall for 80/ HH. Excellent apartment and she is very clean! Fantastic body. But, performance is quite mechanical, I would give 8/10, but won't repeat as performance is quite mechanical and not GFE! If you want a pornstar experience, then you try for one time!
Karol Prado: Very nice lady and amazing personality! English is good! 60/ HH incall. Body is amazing and same like picture! BBBJ skill is ok. But, she can provide great GFE experience. Rating 8/10 because of her attitude, not a time watcher as well. Rating- 8/10.
Yola Lopes: Amazing lady, body is ok. But, her performance is mazing, BBBJ skill is top notch! You don't need to F**K her, she will F*K you! LOL. But, I won't repeat cause the apartment is not clean and I got very bad smell! Other than that she is great! Rating-9/10.[/QUOTE]
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Been trawling through EP and Apartadox starting to make a list. Searching for reviews on each one.
So I only have Flora Neves and Irina Melo (who is away this month).
Can anyone suggest some outcall calls? Prefer under 25, slim, great BJ, and know how to take control.
I also saw Frederica Lima and her old reviews look great but recent ones look terrible so I am not sure.
Lastly, what is the local forum everyone talks about? This is the only forum I am on.
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I'm not sure if we're allowed to post links to other forums. Chatter suggests otherwise?
But for EP girls with solid, good reputations and in their mid 20's or younger, regardless of type:
Bela Soares.
Francisca Vilar.
Natalia Freitas.
Eva Blanco.
There are other girls with a more mixed track record -- positive reviews outweigh negative reviews for sure, but that raises the question of types and parsing out why things were sour for that guy. Also are the few with just one positive mention thus far. There are also some solid ladies who are older that mid-20's. I'm not delving into these, since four more names out to be sufficient.
[QUOTE=Jportlis;2827909]Been trawling through EP and Apartadox starting to make a list. Searching for reviews on each one.
So I only have Flora Neves and Irina Melo (who is away this month).
Can anyone suggest some outcall calls? Prefer under 25, slim, great BJ, and know how to take control.
I also saw Frederica Lima and her old reviews look great but recent ones look terrible so I am not sure.
Lastly, what is the local forum everyone talks about? This is the only forum I am on.[/QUOTE]
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Nuru spa Lisboa
My first post here maybe but I've been taking advise from here and been to Nuru Spa Lisbon 4 times already, 2 of them being within the last month.
2 girls I had the service from are no longer there (it was beginnings of last year) so there is no point in taking about them. But the more recent ones:
Millah: had a "relaxing" massage with her and she literally came in the room to give all she can and enjoy herself too. That was one of the best experiences for me. Only time for condom use was during the intercourses. She even allowed oral on her (not everyone may be interested in here for safety).
Shr offered an absolute GF experience.
For anyone interested: boobs aren't natural.
Kyara: also very good service as millah, this one started with a very good massage first then let me take control. Did not give a BJ like millah (millah was amazing on that) but I did not ask for it either, maybe she would do it if we both felt like. She was still very much into it and enjoyed it herself too. Still a very good GF experience.
There is also Ravena, but I was told she does not do relaxing session.
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Thank you everyone for all the reviews and information in this thread!
I'm in Lisbon next week and am hoping to meet some of the ladies.
In my home country, I usually go for PSE and enjoy woman with larger assets, not too skinny. I prefer older, more mature ladies, because they usually know what they want. I'm not into vanilla sex and rather enjoy a bit of a wilder encounter. I've seen a few young escorts that I vibe with, but I find it happens more with the mature ones.
From my browsing of this thread and the internet, my shortlist is down to:
- Alexandra Mendez: like I said, I don't mind older and from what I've read, she enjoys anal.
- Sara Valente: she seems to be the energy level I vibe best with from what I can tell. Looks are a factor for me and it seems folks don't find her facially attractive, so I'm hesitant. I do like a nice pair of big naturals though.
I'm also contemplating seeing both for a threesome. The pictures look very enticing: nice bums, nice tits, one fake, the other natural, one wild, the other into anal. Seems like it would be fun.
- Valeria Diaz: not going to lie, but her tits and especially nipples drew me in. I like big eraser nipples on a good set of boobs. Also one profile mentioned she squirts, no review confirms this though. A few reviews mention she seemed high during the session though, and that's a deal breaker for me. Now I'm torn.
I'm curious if I've missed anyone obvious? Any other recommendations for an experience on the naughty side, someone with nice big boobs, preferably enjoying anal, squirting is a plus, MILF-type ok?
Appreciate any pointers in advance!
Cheers.
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Recommendations for Interactive B2B, RO, OWO finish in Lisbon
Experts / Gurus,
Any recommendations for interactive B2 B with RO & OWO. Essentially a sensual experience but without sex. In Lisbon? I see a few spas like [URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.nuruspas.com[/URL] but that seems to be a hit or miss even for an interactive experience. Don't want to get stuck with a vanilla HJ after all: the.
Any recommendations are welcome.
Thanks!
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My suggestion is to steer towards spas and independent massagistas who offer FS, but tell them you want an OWO ending. The usual practice in such instances is to offer a small discount on B2 B FS rates.
Most of my recommendations on that line are not in Lisbon proper, but places like Alges and Linda-a-Vehla. So whether you can access them depends on if you have a rental car or are willing to foot the Uber bill. But they've been saying Nuru Spa is pretty good for that -- I just haven't paid much attention to it, since none of the massagistas strongly appealed to me.
Definitely avoid any actual spa that you don't know for a fact has FS on the menu. Most of them don't as a matter of house policy, so you won't be able to persuade anyone to do oral on the fly.
[QUOTE=TheJunkLord;2835546]Experts / Gurus,
Any recommendations for interactive B2 B with RO & OWO. Essentially a sensual experience but without sex. In Lisbon? I see a few spas like [URL]https://www.genuine-tantric.com[/URL] and [URL]https://www.nuruspas.com[/URL] but that seems to be a hit or miss even for an interactive experience. Don't want to get stuck with a vanilla HJ after all: the.
Any recommendations are welcome.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
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Thanks! That was my thinking too. I can make it out to Alges and well for the right person even Linda-a-Vehla haha! And I saw your post ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2802652&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2802652) compiled list which was very helpful. Few links are dead, I assume they have moved on. Any recommendations outside this from recent experience?
Also question for all, any reviews to Elen & Joana? [URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/eva-920276705[/URL] and [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Joana-Montenegro-4360[/URL] respectively.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2835594]My suggestion is to steer towards spas and independent massagistas who offer FS, but tell them you want an OWO ending. The usual practice in such instances is to offer a small discount on B2 B FS rates.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=TheJunkLord;2836081]Thanks! That was my thinking too. I can make it out to Alges and well for the right person even Linda-a-Vehla haha! And I saw your post ([URL]http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?761-Lisbon&p=2802652&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2802652) compiled list which was very helpful. Few links are dead, I assume they have moved on. Any recommendations outside this from recent experience?
Also question for all, any reviews to Elen & Joana? [URL]https://gostosas.pt/escort/eva-920276705[/URL] and [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/Massagista-Joana-Montenegro-4360[/URL] respectively.[/QUOTE]Elen's reviews on the local board aren't very good from a performance standpoint. All three reviews indicate the oral was covered, and two of the reviews say she simply doesn't hide the fact that she seems to hate what she does. She is described as hot.
Joanna Montenegro is the highest rated Escort Privada lady when you average the scores on the local board, here, the American review board, the British review board and the Canadian review board. She has that magical quality we wish they all had. She tries to understand what the customer wants and then she aims to please. BBBJTCIM is offered in addition to vaginal CFS and she is reviewed as being fetish friendly. She is fluent in English, engaging and stays the full time that was purchased.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
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Massagistas who do FS
So, as I wrote, if one wants a nuru massage with OWO finish, the best bet is to go to a provider who does FS. Back in the day, this was offered as a discounted service. They might not be doing it that way anymore, but most of the ladies in question do HJ, OWO or FS, and will be familiar with what you want.
At L'Essence in Alges, Carolina, Dara and Noah all have good reputations.
[URL]https://www.lessence.pt/[/URL]
Diana PT is a MILF and has some bad reviews, but a largely positive reputation. She is now in Oerias.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/diana-portuguesa/[/URL]
In Lisbon, Ana Lua is well-liked locally for being a reasonably priced worker. She is, however, a butterface:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ana-lua/[/URL]
Natalia Brandt in Expo is well-liked, and although she is primarily an escort, she does advertise on the massage site. So it's worth asking her if she does B2 B.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/natalia-brandt/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-natalia-brandt-4789[/URL]
Kelly has a middling reputation:
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1151-kelly-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
Vanessa is a veteran massagista, well-regarded and does what you need. She is in Alfragide:
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/758-vanessinha-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
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What about rates?
I don't see any data on rates on this thread. What's the standard starting price for short time at a girl's place? If the girl comes to your place? I'm trying to figure out how expensive Portugal is compared to other EU venues.
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Another massagista who will probably accommodate OWO is Lia:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/aida-lia/[/URL]
I thought she had stopped advertising, but there she is.
Incall, photo-verified escorts are charging between 120-150/ h now, with very few charging less. Outcall is 150-200. Nuru massages ending in HJ should be in the 100 to 130 range.
Some providers will ask for more, but only a very, very few are worth the mark-up.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2803281]In addition to Joana and Flora, give Sara Valente of EP a look. I did a threesome with her and Alexandria and Sara can really carry a threesome. She is genuinely bisexual, very outgoing and speaks perfect English.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
As noted in the many reviews Joana and Flora have prettier faces than Sara. I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL][/QUOTE]I was thinking of booking Sara and Alexandria when I go up to lisbon next week. How was that experience?
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[QUOTE=BB2206;2836403]I was thinking of booking Sara and Alexandria when I go up to lisbon next week. How was that experience?[/QUOTE]I am not as into threesomes as a lot of guys. But it was good. Sara and Alexandria are friends in real life, so they genuinely fuck each other. Anal will probably be available with Alexandria and anal won't be available with Sara. Sara's BBBJTCIM is by far better than Alexandria. They are both in their 30's, EP never updates its website profiles.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2836441]I am not as into threesomes as a lot of guys. But it was good. Sara and Alexandria are friends in real life, so they genuinely fuck each other. Anal will probably be available with Alexandria and anal won't be available with Sara. Sara's BBBJTCIM is by far better than Alexandria. They are both in their 30's, EP never updates its website profiles.[/QUOTE]Ooh that is awesome, I do enjoy the threesomes but I hate it if the girls aren't really into each other. Lesbian is fun but fesbian (fake lesbian) isn't.
Cheers for that monger. I was also thinking of Joana Montenegro and flora neves as a threesome but if you say they are friends in real life that is going to be awesome then.
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What do I need for Outbound calls?
For those of you who have hired outbound girls, is it the girl who brings the equipment (condoms) or am I expected to have that stuff at my place?
Anything else I should keep in mind?
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Isis Lisboa
Met up with her last week. 30 minutes BJ only session I asked for. She asked for 100 I didn't feel like haggling so I said yes. She's very nice engaging by text. Her ad isn't up for the moment on portalprivado because she said she was going on vacation for a bit but that's the site her ad was on and will prob be on when she gets back. She receives in a very nice apt (used by others as well is my understanding) near roma station. She was dressed in a lovely bra / thong outfit. Looked close to her pictures. Implant DD not the best for me but her body was nice. Good booty. BBBJ was top 5 all time. She went nuts. Any position, multiple techniques, non-stop enthusiasm for the 30 minutes without asking me to cum early. Doing her best to make me feel like she was enjoying. Deepthroat pretty much unless you're 7 inches+ I would say. CIM no problem without asking. Would def repeat. Sorry deleted her number but if you search isis lisboa in the usual sites for lisbon you should find her when she gets back.
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[QUOTE=BB2206;2836584]Ooh that is awesome, I do enjoy the threesomes but I hate it if the girls aren't really into each other. Lesbian is fun but fesbian (fake lesbian) isn't.
Cheers for that monger. I was also thinking of Joana Montenegro and flora neves as a threesome but if you say they are friends in real life that is going to be awesome then.[/QUOTE]Joana puts her all into a session and one of her best reviews is from a couple who reviewed her and said she was really into the wife. So I think she is genuinely bisexual. And Flora gets excellent reviews. So I don't think you could go wrong with that choice, either. Joana and Flora will be a few years younger than Sara and Alexandra, if that is important to you. Keep in mind that scheduling is an issue with EP since all of the ladies have jobs and / or school outside of this work, so it is good to have more than one option.
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Round-up
No need to furnish condoms, not unless you have a preference. They bring them.
Be aware that although you won't be bothered about your guests by any hotel, some have keycard-locked elevators. You should tell your outcall girl if the elevator is locked, so you can plan to meet at the door or in the lobby.
I'm glad to see someone give Isis Lisboa a go. I've been endorsing her for a long time now. A lady who charges 150 an hour usually asks 80 for half an hour, so you probably got the tourist tax. That said, if you got exactly what you wanted, then it sounds like she earned the built-in tip.
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Hello everyone!
After quite some time I will be travelling to Portugal again and I want to make the trip worth the time.
I am also looking for a good threesome experience. Besides from Sara and Alexandra (should have booked them the last time instead of Soraia) and Joana with maybe a girl if her preference (are there any other recommendations (can also be independents if the general reviews are good)?
I also like the exotic touch of Ebony girls. Are there any experiences to the ones from Escort Privada? Couldn't find any on the local board.
I will of course share my experience in return.
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Another one
Here is another independent FS massagista I just noticed under discussion on the local board. She has a studio near Saldanha, and seems well-liked. She will probably do OWO finish if asked.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/raquel-portuguesa/[/URL]
And this newbie, found at Authentic Spa in the same general area, just got high marks for FS massage. Again, will do OWO finish for sure.
https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1352-sami-massagista-sensual-lisboa
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At present, I can't make a better suggestion, other than to ask a lady you really have the hots for if she does duos and has a regular partner to check out.
[QUOTE=Front604;2837104]Hello everyone!
After quite some time I will be travelling to Portugal again and I want to make the trip worth the time.
I am also looking for a good threesome experience. Besides from Sara and Alexandra (should have booked them the last time instead of Soraia) and Joana with maybe a girl if her preference (are there any other recommendations (can also be independents if the general reviews are good)?
I also like the exotic touch of Ebony girls. Are there any experiences to the ones from Escort Privada? Couldn't find any on the local board.
I will of course share my experience in return.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2836358]Another massagista who will probably accommodate OWO is Lia:
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/aida-lia/[/URL]
I thought she had stopped advertising, but there she is.[/QUOTE]Aida Lia is a very good choice in a sweet and slow mode. She does offer OWO which, like everything else, is performed in a very tender, loving way. This Bangladesh lady is a perfect example of what GFE should always be.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2837111]At present, I can't make a better suggestion, other than to ask a lady you really have the hots for if she does duos and has a regular partner to check out.[/QUOTE]Hmm.
Do you have any outcall recommendations? I do not really have a specific type, as long as the service is good GFE I am very open.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2837154]Aida Lia is a very good choice in a sweet and slow mode. She does offer OWO which, like everything else, is performed in a very tender, loving way. This Bangladesh lady is a perfect example of what GFE should always be.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, although I did try, I was never able to meet her. I know from reading only in this forum that used to offer FS. Is that still the case? Does it depend on the particular client? I hope to try again next month.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2837107]Here is another independent FS massagista I just noticed under discussion on the local board. She has a studio near Saldanha, and seems well-liked. She will probably do OWO finish if asked.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/raquel-portuguesa/[/URL]
And this newbie, found at Authentic Spa in the same general area, just got high marks for FS massage. Again, will do OWO finish for sure.
https://somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1352-sami-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/QUOTE]I can't help asking: Is it possible to privately negotiate full service at Authentic Spa?? I wan unlucky on this front, too. Does one have to request a particular therapist in advance?
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Update on Lia
[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2837549]Unfortunately, although I did try, I was never able to meet her. I know from reading only in this forum that used to offer FS. Is that still the case? Does it depend on the particular client? I hope to try again next month.[/QUOTE]She is back working saw het last month. She prefers to give massages with a HJ. Even though I had a shower at her place she still insisted on Oral with and did not do FS. But she makes up for that by being very beautiful, elegant and very attentive.
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So here is thing. Sami's reviews indicate she gives full service. But if she is at Authentic Spa, it's possible that place has a house policy. I've never inquired there, but just being aware of who has been on the roster, there have been some massagistas who do full service and some who definitely do not.
So that place is a grey area. I'm not sure what to make of it.
As for trying to make a private arrangement, it's taking your chances. I mean, I'm fully aware of instances of massagistas doing guys at seriously HJ-only spas simply because the lady fancied them. Nothing extra paid. Stuff happens. That has happened to me, twice! The issue is whether you can count on it or want to roll the dice.
[QUOTE=Pecadozinho;2837550]I can't help asking: Is it possible to privately negotiate full service at Authentic Spa?? I wan unlucky on this front, too. Does one have to request a particular therapist in advance?[/QUOTE]
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Nuruspas. Massage with RO, OWO
A few of us ended up visiting Nuruspas branch in Lisboa and met Millah [URL]https://www.nuruspas.com/en/service-page/millah-1[/URL] and while I didn't opt for FS, everything else was served up. None of the girls there speak english, so talking to them is difficult. The receptionist was a dude this time around and I didn't get into details with him either. Essentially, just play the cards with the masseuse and make the moves. Obviously the place is expensive and you can get like services or FS via other SPs at 180/ hour or cheaper but this is just easier as a tourist.
The place is spotless, well maintained, no clock watching (we were there for around 80 minutes 1 hour booking) and hot girls. Speaking specific of Millah, very cute girl with good attitude. However, didn't like the bolt-ONS, just feels wrong in hand but like I said, without discussing anything upfront we started off with DFK, body kisses, massage, OWO, RO and HR at the end. Kyara also offers the same, but you need to sort of make it happen in the room Hope the details helps fellow horny travellers!!
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[QUOTE=Amsgmx;2837765]She is back working saw het last month. She prefers to give massages with a HJ. Even though I had a shower at her place she still insisted on Oral with and did not do FS. But she makes up for that by being very beautiful, elegant and very attentive.[/QUOTE]Maybe she changes her attitude according to her perception of the clients. In the two or three times I was with her, she always offered FS and BBBJ.
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Lia Aida
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2838082]Maybe she changes her attitude according to her perception of the clients. In the two or three times I was with her, she always offered FS and BBBJ.[/QUOTE]Clearly you are very handsome and able to make her comfortable!
When was the last time you were with her as maybe she did before?
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So I Organized a Duo tonight with Debora Dias and Francisca Vilar from EP.
Couldn't find any red flags, so I am curious on how that will go down.
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Francisca came from Porto, where she had a strong reputation. I can't speak to Dias; not my type. Good luck!
[QUOTE=Front604;2838335]So I Organized a Duo tonight with Debora Dias and Francisca Vilar from EP.
Couldn't find any red flags, so I am curious on how that will go down.[/QUOTE]
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Margarida Vaz
I wrote this report after my encounter with Margarida Vaz back in November 2022 but, for whatever reason, I never uploaded it. I just stumbled across it, and since she appears to still be advertising on escortprivada, I figured I may as well post it. Just bear in mind that this encounter happened almost 9 months ago. For anybody wondering, the action took place in the dining room of the place where I was staying because I didn't want to risk getting my bed sheets dirty.
Margarida Vaz arrived within five minutes of our agreed time. Although, I was very happy with her appearance, she didn't really look how I'the expected based on the reviews I'the read.
I'the previously read about how young she looked and how hot her body was – this was primarily what made me choose her. Personally, I didn't think she looked particularly young FOR HER AGE. She told me she was 19, and while I don't doubt this is true, I thought she looked quite mature for a 19 year old. Maybe it was due to the amount of makeup she was wearing, but I felt she could easily pass for 22 or 23, maybe 24. Perhaps I am more sensitive to this because I tend to almost exclusively go for 18 and 19 year olds. Her body was very nice – true to the pictures (although more tanned) – but again, more womanly than I'the usually associate with a girl of that age.
Her face is very pretty and reminded me of a young Jorgie Porter.
Upon arrival, she informed me that she had already showered. She undressed, and after awkwardly groping her for a few minutes, I asked her to kneel down. Her BBBJ skills left plenty of room for improvement but she wasn't deliberately holding back. It was enjoyable.
Following that, I asked her to lie down on the dining table. After pulling up a chair, I feasted on her rather sublime ****. I'll sing her praises here: her pussy really was very eye pleasing. She came after about 10 minutes. I'the have preferred her to groan a bit louder but I enjoyed watching her facial expressions.
I then asked her to lie on the floor and I pounded her for a good 10 minutes or so. As others have stated, she wasn't very proactive – but I didn't mind all that much. When I felt close to coming, I pulled out and knelt over her face. Pulling my condom off, it had been my intention to jizz my 7-day build-up all over her face but she quite comically proclaimed, "Do it in my mouth or you'll spoil my beautiful makeup!" I think she was only joking and wouldn't have stopped me (and I kind of regret it now) but I chose to spare her the anguish and put my dick into her mouth. While sucking me off, I took her hand and placed it on my perineum, which she preceded to stroke. Ideally, I'the have liked her to slip her finger into my ass but I knew this would have required Google Translate and I didn't want to spoil the flow. Soon enough, I shot my load into her mouth.
By this point about 35 minutes had passed. I slipped my lounge pants back on (because nobody wants to see my freshly spent dick dangling about) and she perhaps mistook this as a sign that I'the finished as she started to get dressed herself. I asked her not to and so she stopped after putting her underwear back on. We chatted for the next 10 minutes – and although it's possible I may have recovered sufficiently for second innings, it would have been a struggle.
When she left, she'the only been here for roughly 45 minutes – but she never needed to use the shower or attempted to waste time so I have no real complaints.
She was a nice girl and I enjoyed her company. As I've said in earlier posts, I don't usually pay as much as 150 Euros – and while I don't regret paying that much for her, she wasn't sufficiently remarkable that I'm tempted it to see her again. If I had more money to spare or if her price was lower then I would probably consider it.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2838444]Francisca came from Porto, where she had a strong reputation. I can't speak to Dias; not my type. Good luck![/QUOTE]Well, I can only confirm that. Good and bad.
She is more girl next door, which is a look I like. Has some tattoos but I did not find them disturbing and interesting stories to tell about those.
She definitely has a great personality, is funny and definitely seems to like what she is doing. Very much passion and kissing etc.
Indeed her BJ was okay but I had better. Still makes up for it with everything else. I would meet her again.
Deborah has a very fit body. Very nice dark skin and also a great personality. Her English is not that good so she was a bit quiet but also very passionate in bed.
They both also harmonized pretty well with each other, so all in all it was very enjoyable and the has very good BJ skills.
So as a Duo a can indeed recommend both. For a single encounter I am thinking about meeting Francisca again, because she really gave me the illusion of a genuine and spontaneous hook-up. For a single session Deborah's English is not good enough, so I might only want to see her again in a duo session.
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Not sure why my report below has had every apostrophe-the changed to an apostrophe-the. I did not write it that way.
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There is a problem with the way this site is editing posts (presumably automatically.).
My past two posts have had numerous instances of the letter 'd' changed to 'the' and the results make no sense.
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Homework correction
Visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, I would love your input in the outcall department.
Looking for 20-25 yo, cute, next doors petite brunette, doing BBBJCIM with a GFE approach, chatty and intelligent, bonus if a-level.
Obvious ones would be.
Flora Neves; ISG's sweetheart.
Catia Bom; but does she lean into the bimbo department?
Jude; who's add just disappeared from eurogirl (a gorgeous redhead), redflag?
Ana Lucia; seemingly a perfect match.
Juice; for a pornstar BJ experience.
Bela Soares; another seemingly perfect match.
Aurora Alfaiate; same.
Risky ones might be.
Eva Branco; which divides.
Julieta Gomez; with mixed reviews.
Anair from EGE, Eller Rocha from AP; feeling like hit or miss energy.
Margarida Vaz; but dyes in blond.
Adriana Santos; same.
Dice rollers.
Isabela Zaz; which seems too good to be true and unreviewed.
Ana Carol Leite; same.
Lilith Sage; same.
Duda Lopez; right in my alley but unreviewed.
Vanessa Morais; reported not to be her.
Larissa Manoelle; with lovely curly hair.
Raissa Reis; with no review in sight.
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For Wild Potato
You've done your homework!
Flora fits your bill in all respects but one: she is tall, not petite. Bela is also a pretty good fit for you.
I think you've read Catia Bom correctly -- I wouldn't call her for the witty banter. Aurora recently got a bad review, which could be just one unhappy client, a bad day or could be signs of burnout.
Eller doesn't speak English.
I think Julieta Gomes is the former Vera Guerra, in which case she is widely disliked for providing crap service.
Lilith Saga and Ana Carol Leite are both on my list to possibly visit. But reports say Saga is pretty expensive. Leite works in Cascais. Both a predominantly incall girls, so both will want more money than Catia Bom or an EP girl. Substantially more, given what Saga's base incall rate is and Leite will probably want you to pay for transportation from Cascais.
You should also look at Francisca Vilar, Natalia Freitas, Filipa Marques and Ines Pires.
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On the younger side for EP, You should take a long, hard took at these two. I think you should consider them in front of Margarida Vaz, honestly.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-natalia-freitas-7541[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/natalia-freitas/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-celine-luz-8093[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/celine-luz/[/URL]
Natalia has been getting 9's and 10's in her local board reviews from experienced reviewers.
Celine got a very solid 8 out of 10 review from an experienced reviews. All services listed on the EP profiles for Natalia and Celine were confirmed in the reviews.
Unfortunately due to a 2 out of 10 and 4 out of 10 review from an experienced reviewer, Clara Mendes has likely achieved Hesistate to See status.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/clara-mendes/[/URL]
[QUOTE=AWildPotato;2839589]Visiting Lisbon in a few weeks, I would love your input in the outcall department.
Looking for 20-25 yo, cute, next doors petite brunette, doing BBBJCIM with a GFE approach, chatty and intelligent, bonus if a-level.
Obvious ones would be.
Flora Neves; ISG's sweetheart.
Catia Bom; but does she lean into the bimbo department?
Jude; who's add just disappeared from eurogirl (a gorgeous redhead), redflag?
Ana Lucia; seemingly a perfect match.
Juice; for a pornstar BJ experience.
Bela Soares; another seemingly perfect match.
Aurora Alfaiate; same.
Risky ones might be.
Eva Branco; which divides.
Julieta Gomez; with mixed reviews.
Anair from EGE, Eller Rocha from AP; feeling like hit or miss energy.
Margarida Vaz; but dyes in blond.
Adriana Santos; same.
Dice rollers.
Isabela Zaz; which seems too good to be true and unreviewed.
Ana Carol Leite; same.
Lilith Sage; same.
Duda Lopez; right in my alley but unreviewed.
Vanessa Morais; reported not to be her.
Larissa Manoelle; with lovely curly hair.
Raissa Reis; with no review in sight.[/QUOTE]
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Available Escorts on EP and Apartadox
I'll be in Lisbon / Porto in a few weeks and have been keeping an eye on what escorts are available on EP and Apartadox. It seems like in the last few weeks the escorts I've been wanting to see have not been showing available. Does anyone know if the available girls they show is accurate? I'm hoping to meet a lot of them and report out. I went a few years ago and had trouble setting up appointments with a lot of the models and just want to keep my expectations in line.
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If an ad disappears, that means the escort really is unavailable -- moved away, retired, gone on holiday, otherwise indisposed.
But if you mean the green dot / appearing in the "available now" section, all that means is a given escort is free and wants to be called. The majority of the ladies never use that function. So, just because you never see a profile with a green dot doesn't mean it's inactive.
If you can see the profile at all, the lady is working to at least some degree.
[QUOTE=Landfill2;2840428]I'll be in Lisbon / Porto in a few weeks and have been keeping an eye on what escorts are available on EP and Apartadox. It seems like in the last few weeks the escorts I've been wanting to see have not been showing available. Does anyone know if the available girls they show is accurate? I'm hoping to meet a lot of them and report out. I went a few years ago and had trouble setting up appointments with a lot of the models and just want to keep my expectations in line.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2840510]But if you mean the green dot / appearing in the "available now" section, all that means is a given escort is free and wants to be called. [/QUOTE]It may also mean that the lady with the green dot is desperately lacking in visitors and needs to use that to improve her situation.
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Recommendations for girls with large breasts and big butts
I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.
The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188[/URL]). Any other recommendations?
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[QUOTE=PTViking;2843129]I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.
The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188[/URL]). Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]Valentina Ferraz gets very good reviews on the local board from experienced reviewers. 7's, 8's and 9's. All but one of the reviews of her is BBBJ. The last review was CBJ, and that reviewer has many BBBJ reviews, so I am not sure what happened.
For other ladies with the type of body you want, you might also consider this very highly rated and constantly reviewed independent.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]
And these two EP ladies, with Alexandra usually offering anal sex.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-alexandra-mendes-2491[/URL]
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Patricia Navarro for sure.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160[/URL]
Yu has a high reputation, but I don't pay that close attention to her -- not my type.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yu-ferracini-6467[/URL]
[QUOTE=PTViking;2843129]I've been reading this thread for the past few days. I'm looking to spend a night with a girl with large breasts and a big butt. I mean the bigger the better. The other thing I'm looking for is anal.
The girl I've had my eye on is Valentina Ferraz ([URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-ferraz-4188[/URL]). Any other recommendations?[/QUOTE]
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Thanks for the recs! Nertheless I'm really looking for anal with a girl with a massive ass and tits.
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2843389]Patricia Navarro for sure.
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1160[/URL]
Yu has a high reputation, but I don't pay that close attention to her -- not my type.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-yu-ferracini-6467[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PTViking;2845395]Thanks for the recs! Nertheless I'm really looking for anal with a girl with a massive ass and tits.[/QUOTE]I frequented Patricia 3 times now. My last visit was yesterday. She is great but she does not do anal!
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RTTF, more Qs
Gentlemen,
Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.
Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned ([URL]escortprivada.com[/URL]) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?
-Mike.
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You'll find Lisbon EP ladies tend to give a more inclusive service for the standard fee, than ladies in other countries. Extra costs tend to be for things such as anal and rimming you. Things such as DFK, OWO and CIM are included if the lady provides that service (which is vast majority). Just be clear in the communication on which services you want.
I can't comment too much on comparisons to Spain, but Lisbon is short on spa's / massage outlets which could provide you with both a sensual massage and full service. In fact, Lisbon is short on brothels full stop. You have noted one of the few places ([URL]nuruspas.com[/URL]) where people are able to combine massage with full service (but read the thread as not all ladies will provide full service). There are independent solo ladies combining massage with full service, but I don't think that's what you're after.
[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2845603]Gentlemen,
Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.
Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned ([URL]escortprivada.com[/URL]) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?
-Mike.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2845603]Gentlemen,
Have been reading up on your little slice of heaven here as far back as 10 pages. I'm a German expat living in the USA, and I get my fair share of Latin temptations by heading down to Mexico. I have extensively hobbied for over a decade now, but I have never made my way to Portugal nor Spain, and was weighing the options between the two as I'm looking at wrapping up my time in the USA and returning to Europe. Iberia will probably not be my next trip, but it's high on the list.
Some questions: I am seeing one of the sites mentioned ([URL]escortprivada.com[/URL]) listing hourly rates for girls at 150 euros. Is this all-inclusive, or like the rest of Europe a base rate with upcharges for upgrades? My other question is that I saw some mentions of spas including a really upscale nuru spa with gorgeous massueses (though upcharges were mentioned). Barcelona seems to be more ripe for brothels masquerading as massage parlors / spas similar to the estetica masculinas of Guadalajara, Mexico, which I'm a huge fan of having in plentiful supply for quick and easy service in between longer sessions with escorts. Would anyone recommend the spa scene in Portugal over Spain, or vice versa?
-Mike.[/QUOTE]Lisbon has the fewest ladies together in one place at the same time in all of the European countries friendly to this activity.
It just isn't how it is done. Brothels are technically illegal. As Harry1217 noted, Nuruspa is the one place that quietly has ladies at the same place at the same time who generally do full service. Just don't wake the whole neighborhood up about it. Ask for the relaxing massage and the lady should get the picture. If not just politely ask within the room.
Portugal isn't a big upsell country. Escort Privada, which is outcall only, lists the upsell, if any, that each lady offers for certain services, usually CIM and anal. For many EP ladies, the 150 euros still covers everything for the hour.
The Portuguese providers are professional. They communicate via Whtsapp, and if you make an appointment, she will be there and you will get your booked time. It is a great city, so you will enjoy your trips to her incall location if you do incall instead of outcall. Uber is available in Lisbon.
There are a lot of guys on ISG who simply can't deal with treating a sex worker as an equal, making an appointment on a smart phone, and keeping it. I don't know why that is.
The last ten pages give you many ladies to choose from. This lady, Ines, gets nothing but great reviews, and she just got another one on the big American review board. I am not sure she has been mentioned in the last ten pages.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
The lady I saw last time, Rebeca Diniz, isn't running a current ad, but I can private message you her WhatsApp number if you want.
Lisbon has more quality ladies to see than you will have time to see.
Spain is also great. For Barcelona, you do get the shared private apartments like Vecinitas, Aribau 11 X, teensbcn, and ElEden53. They tend to be appointment oriented, but once you go to the facility once, you know where it is at for return visits. Of course Barcelona and Madrid have an endless number of quality independents, just like Lisbon does.
At the end of the day, they aren't that much different to an American.
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Lisbon Cathedral
I found down the bottom of the hill from that good. Bonked Africans, 20 e for them and the same for the room. Locals into crystal meth and smack. Cheap but a real case of shopping carefully. Africans train in from Madrid, or so they say, so their relatives won't know their game. Nice ladies, passive bonks. Condoms seemed to be core. Junkies jacking up after the first round may not be for everyone. We are talking street walking here.
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[QUOTE=Jarango;2845640]I found down the bottom of the hill from that good. Bonked Africans, 20 e for them and the same for the room. Locals into crystal meth and smack. Cheap but a real case of shopping carefully. Africans train in from Madrid, or so they say, so their relatives won't know their game. Nice ladies, passive bonks. Condoms seemed to be core. Junkies jacking up after the first round may not be for everyone. We are talking street walking here.[/QUOTE]You must have been through Dante's hell!... Creepy...
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2845630]The last ten pages give you many ladies to choose from. This lady, Ines, gets nothing but great reviews, and she just got another one on the big American review board. I am not sure she has been mentioned in the last ten pages.[/QUOTE]Not sure if it was in the last ten pages but I have mentioned Inês before. Very, very good, not to be missed.
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Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.
Again, thank you all.
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Yes, you can generally rely on photo-verified sites. Of course, there is some basic photoshopping involved, and the ladies aren't going to choose unflattering photos for their ads.
This is one of those areas where some guys have a crap, unrealistic attitude. If a lady isn't showing her face, she is very likely not going to show you her identifying tattoos either. So of course those are airbrushed out. Duh. Then there are the douches who whine about how the photos were lying abd she was fat, when you could see in the pictures the lady had a waist (not hips, waist) almost as wide as her shoulders or that her legs were thick or some other clear indicator that, while fit, she wasn't a waif.
The point being, true bait and switch incidents are very, very rare with escorts advertising on photo-verified, Portuguese sites.
Apartadox will even tell you if the photos are over one year old. IMO, the biggest problem is with those older photos. I generally take it as a yellow flag that an escort hasn't updated their photos, since many ladies do it regularly. Since only those of us with good memories and who focus on Portugal will recognize an old photo essay, that can be a problem.
[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2845919]Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.
Again, thank you all.[/QUOTE]
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Yes, some corner of some level of the Inferno must look just like it. I guess some people go to Hell and it makes them feel superior?
[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2845807]You must have been through Dante's hell!... Creepy...[/QUOTE]
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Web-sites for Portugal
I am wondering, why other web-sites, which are also reliable, are rarely mentioned here.
GOSTOSAS. Which has around 200 - 300 active advertisement.
PORTUAS is another web-site which is also reliable, which gives also prices for the services.
These two sites are relatively reliable. Simply have a look.
Carlos.
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Because they aren't. Even the local board doesn't count them as verified.
[QUOTE=CarlosPrimeros;2846092]I am wondering, why other web-sites, which are also reliable, are rarely mentioned here.
GOSTOSAS. Which has around 200 - 300 active advertisement.
PORTUAS is another web-site which is also reliable, which gives also prices for the services.
These two sites are relatively reliable. Simply have a look.
Carlos.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2846020]I guess some people go to Hell and it makes them feel superior?[/QUOTE]As far as I'm concerned, I've successfully managed to avoid Hell. It would not make me feel superior at all. Quite the opposite.
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2846174]As far as I'm concerned, I've successfully managed to avoid Hell. It would not make me feel superior at all. Quite the opposite.[/QUOTE]Clearly so, sir, as you were the one who described it as Dante's Inferno in the first place The OP, on the other hand, rather enjoyed his stroll into that cheapskate's perdition.
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Also Madrid
[QUOTE=MikeHoncho;2845919]Thanks gentlemen, you've given me something to think over when I plan my next trip. I trust that here, pictures tend to not lie like they do in say the Netherlands or Germany. If that's the case, I could understand why someone wouldn't want to leave Portugal, especially given the extremely affordable rates.
Again, thank you all.[/QUOTE]I was also considering Lisbon as a new place to try. But I don't enjoy the escort scene that much. I prefer the "buffet" experience where you socialize with the girls and then pick who you want to fuck. Vive in Madrid is very good for this if you like Latinas. It's a nightclub but really for the sole purpose of fucking in the on-site rooms. I've had a few good experiences there — search for Vive for reports.
Also if you prefer a dinner date and sex kind of format Seeking Arrangement is where it's at [URL]www.seeking.com[/URL] and the Madrid Seeking scene is prob the best worldwide. There is a whole forum for this. It's way at bottom under general / dating agencies.
Best of luck!
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Yes if you don't enjoy the escort scene much, and have a strong preference for clubs / brothels, you're right not to visit Lisbon as it is short on those type of establishments; comparing to Madrid is like chalk and cheese.
In terms of SA, we've had sporadic reports that Lisbon may also be great for this. I'm keen to try it myself but as I prefer shorter bookings of 1-2 hours, well reviewed escorts serve as good a purpose for me. I'm not sure where the forum you refer to is located?
[QUOTE=Steve9696;2846592]I was also considering Lisbon as a new place to try. But I don't enjoy the escort scene that much. I prefer the "buffet" experience where you socialize with the girls and then pick who you want to fuck. Vive in Madrid is very good for this if you like Latinas. It's a nightclub but really for the sole purpose of fucking in the on-site rooms. I've had a few good experiences there search for Vive for reports.
Also if you prefer a dinner date and sex kind of format Seeking Arrangement is where it's at [URL]www.seeking.com[/URL] and the Madrid Seeking scene is prob the best worldwide. There is a whole forum for this. It's way at bottom under general / dating agencies.
Best of luck![/QUOTE]
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Slim, dark skin escorts doing OWO and CIM
Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.
Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.
EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.
Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.
Manuela Alves. Another favorite.
Hillary.
Rafaela Ouro.
Nuria Gomes.
Clara Sempaio.
Not so slim as I prefer:
Sophie A.
Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.
Thalia Ferraz.
Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.
Ines Pires.
Thank you in advance for any tips.
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For what you are seeking, I would move this lady to the top of the list, although CIM isn't always indicated in her reviews (just sometimes). But she is definitely BBBJ and gets excellent reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1299[/URL]
I wasn't blown away by the reviews of the top six you listed.
Joana is always a safe bet. You could get your own hotel room somewhere if outcall is the only option for a lady or two.
[QUOTE=Drdickus;2849961]Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.
Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.
EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.
Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.
Manuela Alves. Another favorite.
Hillary.
Rafaela Ouro.
Nuria Gomes.
Clara Sempaio.
Not so slim as I prefer:
Sophie A.
Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.
Thalia Ferraz.
Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.
Ines Pires.
Thank you in advance for any tips.[/QUOTE]
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Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.
I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.
Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2850009]For what you are seeking, I would move this lady to the top of the list, although CIM isn't always indicated in her reviews (just sometimes). But she is definitely BBBJ and gets excellent reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-isadora-marques-7677[/URL]
[URL]https://www.portalprivado.com/acompanhantes-de-luxo/escort-lisboa/acompanhantes-lisboa.php?acompanhante=1299[/URL]
I wasn't blown away by the reviews of the top six you listed.
Joana is always a safe bet. You could get your own hotel room somewhere if outcall is the only option for a lady or two.[/QUOTE]
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Flora Neves isn't an ebony; she is very much a white skinned (Caucasian) lady.
Debora Dias has good reviews, and she certainly provides CIM. In terms of being too muscular, her reviews have complimented her body and I don't think anybody found her too muscular.
[QUOTE=DrDickus;2850217]Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.
I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.
Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DrDickus;2850217]Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.
I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.
Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]Yes, as Harry points out, Debora Dias is a good choice just like Joana is, but both are EP ladies and I thought you were not as interested in outcall. Here are the EP ladies.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escorts/lisbon/[/URL]
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Dark skin escorts
[QUOTE=DrDickus;2849961]Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.
Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.
EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.
Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.
Manuela Alves. Another favorite.
Hillary.
Rafaela Ouro.
Nuria Gomes.
Clara Sempaio.
Not so slim as I prefer:
Sophie A.
Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.
Thalia Ferraz.
Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.
Ines Pires.
Thank you in advance for any tips.[/QUOTE]If you are looking for dark skin lady, I would recommend Bia Santos. I saw her last February, she is beautiful and gives excellent services including anal. Only one downside, she has no English but We use WhatsApp translate to communicate.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091[/URL]
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I don't have any advice to offer, as I am planning my first trip to Lisbon myself, but I'd like to compliment you on your taste in women and thank you for doing a part of the homework for me. I could not have asked for a better list of slender, dark skinned girls.
Only difference is thst I'm looking for sensual GFE for one of my sessions and an hour long nuru / body2 body massage that ends in FS for the other, as I only have one day.
Someone a few pages back suggested to approach a FS provider for the massage part. Does anyone have recommendations? I prefer either young or dark skinned, ideally both, but it's not a must.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=DrDickus;2849961]Colleagues, I'm heading to Lisbon within the next days, first time.
Looking for a slim ebony or dark skinned brazilian escort, doing OWO and CIM. Around 25 would be preferable but not mandatory. I think I would prefer incall, as I have other colleagues in the hotel with me so it would be more discrete.
EP girls as far as I can understand do only outcall, so I browsed a bit on ApartadoX and have a list. Any reviews / recommendations from you would be great.
Fabiana Lopes. Very much what I'm looking for but saw a bad review a few pages back.
Manuela Alves. Another favorite.
Hillary.
Rafaela Ouro.
Nuria Gomes.
Clara Sempaio.
Not so slim as I prefer:
Sophie A.
Debora Dias. A bit too muscular.
Thalia Ferraz.
Joana Montenegro. Higly recommended but only outcall and not so dark skin.
Ines Pires.
Thank you in advance for any tips.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=DrDickus;2850217]Thanks Mongerer88 for the fast reply. As far as I could get with reading, I understand Joana Montenegro and Flora Neves are safe bets, both doing outcall only.
I was hoping for a more ebony / dark lady, but yes, I also found some not great reviews on the ones in my initial list. Appreciate your proposal but not really up for my taste.
Any info on Debora Dias, maybe? Much appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.
Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.
Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2837767]So here is thing. Sami's reviews indicate she gives full service. But if she is at Authentic Spa, it's possible that place has a house policy. I've never inquired there, but just being aware of who has been on the roster, there have been some massagistas who do full service and some who definitely do not.
So that place is a grey area. I'm not sure what to make of it.
As for trying to make a private arrangement, it's taking your chances. I mean, I'm fully aware of instances of massagistas doing guys at seriously HJ-only spas simply because the lady fancied them. Nothing extra paid. Stuff happens. That has happened to me, twice! The issue is whether you can count on it or want to roll the dice.[/QUOTE]It seems the link to the website is dead. And if you go on the authentic spa's website there is no one advertised there named Sami.
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2850391]If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.
Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.
Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you guys. Apparently EP has the best ones, at least according to my taste. Joana, Deborah and Aurora are clearly on the shortlist.
Reality is I'm not sure how it will go down, I'll be there for a conference and staying a bit more as my flight is next day, so maybe privacy will be ok in the last day once people leave, especially in the night maybe. While this is not my first tango at all I never did outcall, always preferred to go incall and I was now thinking I don't even know how it 'works'.
- do you pay also for taxi?
- do the ladies come also for a one-shot (30-40 minutes) or 1 h is minimum? For me 1 h is either kinda short (can't have fun the second time, I need more time) or too long for just one-shot.
At Indulgent W. Nuru could also sound kinda interesting, drop a line here if you find something special.
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Hey guys, does anyone have any information on Constança Aguilar? Link: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-constanca-aguilar-5365[/URL].
I searched this forum and on the local board, but could not find anything. She has been on my to do list for a while but I was skeptical due to a lack of reviews.
Nonetheless, I struck up a conversation with her through Whatsapp and I may schedule a visit this Saturday.
I just find her photos too enticing and I am willing to take one for the team and report back.
But I thought I'd check here first.
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Full service at Lisbon spas?
Out of interest I'm going to be headed to Lisbon very soon on a backpacking trip and was wondering what the most ideal spa is if you particularly interested in potential full service on the side (besides the obvious NuruSpa that I've seen mentioned a few times.).
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Actually Aurora's reviews are good without being brilliant. She has been reported as not being keen on OWO and rolling on a condom unless you specify you want OWO. CIM is listed within her provided services, so you'd be really annoyed if she didn't provide it, but there is a chance she may not agree on any given day. She also doesn't allow reverse oral sometimes and only does LFK at best.
She is reported as being very attractive and as Mongerer88 says she has a darker skin tone than the pictures suggest.
Personally, I would opt for another ebony lady over her but if you don't mind lack of reverse oral and DFK, she is an option.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2850391]If you do get a separate hotel room due to privacy concerns and are looking at EP ladies, you should add Aurora Alfaiate to you list of possibilities.
Her reviews are very good and indicate that her skin tone is much darker than her photos.
Keep in mind that many dark skin ladies lighten their skin tone in the photos.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2850483]Hey guys, does anyone have any information on Constana Aguilar? Link: [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-constanca-aguilar-5365[/URL].
I searched this forum and on the local board, but could not find anything. She has been on my to do list for a while but I was skeptical due to a lack of reviews.
Nonetheless, I struck up a conversation with her through Whatsapp and I may schedule a visit this Saturday.
I just find her photos too enticing and I am willing to take one for the team and report back.
But I thought I'd check here first.[/QUOTE]Constanca Aguilar has one review on the local board from a guy with five reviews. He may be a bit of a jerk based on his writings and consistent low scores, but he did give one lady a perfect 10 so he is capable of being pleased and happy.
He gave Canstanca Aguar a 2 out of 10 and said it was a terrible experience. Not much to go by, but I certainly think you can do better than her.
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[QUOTE=DrDickus;2850473]Thank you guys. Apparently EP has the best ones, at least according to my taste. Joana, Deborah and Aurora are clearly on the shortlist.
Reality is I'm not sure how it will go down, I'll be there for a conference and staying a bit more as my flight is next day, so maybe privacy will be ok in the last day once people leave, especially in the night maybe. While this is not my first tango at all I never did outcall, always preferred to go incall and I was now thinking I don't even know how it 'works'.
- do you pay also for taxi?
- do the ladies come also for a one-shot (30-40 minutes) or 1 h is minimum? For me 1 h is either kinda short (can't have fun the second time, I need more time) or too long for just one-shot.
At Indulgent W. Nuru could also sound kinda interesting, drop a line here if you find something special.[/QUOTE]EP does not do an additional taxi fee for metro Lisbon. You should get an hour and multiple cums, certainly from Joana, who is customer service oriented. We try out best to call out and blast any EP ladies who leave before the hour, but it does happen. Not often for the best rated ones, but too often with the lower rated EP ladies. Harry1217 is correct that Aurora plays favorites. Some posters say she is their absolute favorite EP lady, others have reported a mediocre experience.
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[QUOTE=Cheappy;2850262]If you are looking for dark skin lady, I would recommend Bia Santos. I saw her last February, she is beautiful and gives excellent services including anal.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-bia-santos-5091[/URL][/QUOTE]Bia is a very, very good option. She is completely uninhibited in all things concerning sex. Everything you might want is definitely available and she seems to really enjoy it as much as we do. And definitely not a clock watcher.
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Nuruspa? Ravena?
Hi,
I am looking to visit Lisbon soon, This is my first post but does anyone have any experience of Ravena at Nuruspa?
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My memory here is pretty dim, but I'm sure Aguilar did a name change before the Pandemic. I can't remember her old name right here and now. I recall her track record declined from great to average/mediocre, so she may be a case of burn out / getting jaded. Also, those pictures are now a few years old.
It's a shame. I'd like to see some recent, definitive feedback on her.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2850670]Constanca Aguilar has one review on the local board from a guy with five reviews. He may be a bit of a jerk based on his writings and consistent low scores, but he did give one lady a perfect 10 so he is capable of being pleased and happy.
He gave Canstanca Aguar a 2 out of 10 and said it was a terrible experience. Not much to go by, but I certainly think you can do better than her.[/QUOTE]
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Bump for guy asking about a specific lady at Nuru Spa.
This post is consistent with posts on the United Kingdom Travelling Abroad section, but it should be noted that Millah upcharged one guy 50 euros for covered full service. One of the reasons that the local board doesn't have more reviews of the Nuru Spa is the simple fact that Lisbon's many independents offer incall for 30,45 and 60 minute prices that are much less expensive than Nuru Spa, albeit with less fancy incall furnishings.
[QUOTE=EnthusiasticRe;2829001]My first post here maybe but I've been taking advise from here and been to Nuru Spa Lisbon 4 times already, 2 of them being within the last month.
2 girls I had the service from are no longer there (it was beginnings of last year) so there is no point in taking about them. But the more recent ones:
Millah: had a "relaxing" massage with her and she literally came in the room to give all she can and enjoy herself too. That was one of the best experiences for me. Only time for condom use was during the intercourses. She even allowed oral on her (not everyone may be interested in here for safety).
Shr offered an absolute GF experience.
For anyone interested: boobs aren't natural.
Kyara: also very good service as millah, this one started with a very good massage first then let me take control. Did not give a BJ like millah (millah was amazing on that) but I did not ask for it either, maybe she would do it if we both felt like. She was still very much into it and enjoyed it herself too. Still a very good GF experience.
There is also Ravena, but I was told she does not do relaxing session.[/QUOTE]
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Follow up
I was looking at one of the more unreliable sites, and can now confirm that Solange Abreu (EP) is Mafalda Melo / Nicole Forte. That has previously been denied here, but a new fake review for Melo's old profile says she is now Soraia, and Abreu / Melo / Forte even responded to her own fake review!
She is awful. Bad teeth, bad skin, reeks of smoke and is probably on something.
My memory cleared: Aguilar used to be Ana Mar. When she went by that name, she had quite a good reputation, and she traveled around quite a bit. She definitely got jaded sometime before even the Pandemic. Of course, the ladies can go through their bad spells and get a second wind, but there are two objective red flags for me on her: that photoshoot, delectable as it is, is now three years old; and no recent review I've seen.
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So after delving deep into the archives of the local board, I was lucky to locate a post regarding Constança Aguilar, which was filled with mostly negative reviews and comments. One guy even went as far as accusing her of stealing money from his wallet when he was not looking.
Needless to say, this put me off completely and I cancelled my arrangement with Constança.
As a backup, I had Bia Santos in mind. Initially, I was a little bit worried when exchanging messages with her since she seemed distant and cold. But having read the positive reviews about her on this forum, I decided to push forward. And man, was it worth it!
I arranged a meeting for 30 minutes, for which Bia charges 60 Euros. For a 1 hour booking, she charges 120 and includes Anal in the price.
Bia is not going to win any physical fitness awards but she more than makes up for it with a very welcoming and friendly attitude! I got a good grasp on Portuguese, so we understood each other just fine. During the encounter, she was enthusiastically proactive and open to any position. She still lives up to the reviews and I will definitely repeat in the future!
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Local SIM or Roaming?
I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2851139]I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.[/QUOTE]It's very easy, ask your hotel or Airbnb where to buy one close by, swing by and pick one up for 10-20 euro. Its very helpful for getting around.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2679870]Generally speaking, the formal spas won't give you a straight answer to those questions. That is because they either don't do FS as a matter of house policy or whether that is available is up to the individual massagista.
Also, spas need to operate in a grey area. If they were openly operating as a brothel, then they might run afoul of the law, which outlaws profiting from someone else's sex work.
Your best bet for determining whether a massagista offers the services you want is to inquire with the independents. Look at somassagens and docemassagem and start WhatsApp'ing the ladies who aren't with a spa.
Also, look up the Massage forum on the local board. Some places, like Klass, Buda and Erotic Spa, are well known for having all their ladies offering FS. You can look up individuals in this way.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming Erotic Spa is this one?:
[URL]https://eroticmassagelisboa.com/massagem-sensual/[/URL]
I ask because I'm having a nightmare trying to find a full service massage parlour that's available on a Sunday. Vast majority of them seem to be closed on a Sunday. Which is a problem for me as I'm only in Lisbon for a day.
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[QUOTE=XXL;2851139]I wonder how hassle free is the purchase of a prepaid SIM card in Portugal. From a visit some years ago I remember the AirBnB to be without WiFi and the hotel having a lousy WiFi.[/QUOTE]Really easy, even though I got mine two years ago during the pandemic. I just came into the first mobile provider store I saw (it was MEO), and bought a card for something like 10 euro. I think they have changed it since then though, so it can be more expensive.
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[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2851057]Bia is not going to win any physical fitness awards but she more than makes up for it with a very welcoming and friendly attitude! I got a good grasp on Portuguese, so we understood each other just fine. During the encounter, she was enthusiastically proactive and open to any position. She still lives up to the reviews and I will definitely repeat in the future![/QUOTE]One of the very best right now in Lisbon. And there are not that many as good as her.
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Ravena
Does anyone happen to remember Ravena in Nuru Spa Cascais?
She was there one year ago.
Slim and super hot.
She was from Venezuela I think.
Does anyone know if she is active elsewhere? Or does anyone know how to get in touch with her? Feel free to send me a PM.
I cross my fingers to see her again!
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2851306]One of the very best right now in Lisbon. And there are not that many as good as her.[/QUOTE]The only other girl who comes to mind is Patricia Navarro, who is in currently in Porto, according to her profile on ApartadoX.
I have been with her 3 times and she is excellent!
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[QUOTE=RobotoVoice;2851359]The only other girl who comes to mind is Patricia Navarro, who is in currently in Porto, according to her profile on ApartadoX.
I have been with her 3 times and she is excellent![/QUOTE]Patricia is also good but she lacks the fire and enthusiasm of Bia.
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Hey everyone.
All your feedback is appreciated. Wrote to Debora and Bia last night (relatively late) to schedule some meetings next days but no replies. It's still early but just curious. How is the custom in Portugal, should I send another message today or wait for their answer?
I'll come back here with hopefully reviews.
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Lisbon
Hullo,
Is Mulheres [URL]https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon[/URL]# a reliable site?
Any particular recommendations would be appreciated.
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No. Although there are some photo-verified profiles, and some of the unverified profiles are genuine, as many are fake.
All ads appearing on Apartadox, Portalprivado, Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified. Some of the photos are old, but Apartadox even tells you that. Knowing that everything you are seeing was at least accurate once upon a time takes a lot of the guessing game out of it. And frankly, given that these are known facts amongst escorts in Lisbon, I always found it suspicious that a lady would advertise elsewhere, but not on one of those four.
[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2852122]Hullo,
Is Mulheres [URL]https://mulheresvip.net/en/escorts/lisbon[/URL]# a reliable site?
Any particular recommendations would be appreciated.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2852152]No. Although there are some photo-verified profiles, and some of the unverified profiles are genuine, as many are fake.
All ads appearing on Apartadox, Portalprivado, Docemassagem and Somassagens are photo-verified. Some of the photos are old, but Apartadox even tells you that. Knowing that everything you are seeing was at least accurate once upon a time takes a lot of the guessing game out of it. And frankly, given that these are known facts amongst escorts in Lisbon, I always found it suspicious that a lady would advertise elsewhere, but not on one of those four.[/QUOTE]Many thanks ExP. I note you did not include Escort Privada in your list.
It would be great if all of the escort's info was accurate, so one could relax about all of that aspect and just look forward to enjoying a meeting. All of the uncertainty and potential let downs takes a lot of the fun out of this. I will stick with your recommended sites so.
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Ah, sorry. Escort Privada is an agency rather than an ad site, and the entire EP roster advertises on Apartadox by default.
[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2852346]Many thanks ExP. I note you did not include Escort Privada in your list.
It would be great if all of the escort's info was accurate, so one could relax about all of that aspect and just look forward to enjoying a meeting. All of the uncertainty and potential let downs takes a lot of the fun out of this. I will stick with your recommended sites so.[/QUOTE]
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Permita-se?
Has anyone from this forum ever tried [URL]https://www.permitase.pt/[/URL].
Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that. ??
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[QUOTE=Jkol94;2852512]Has anyone from this forum ever tried [URL]https://www.permitase.pt/[/URL].
Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that??[/QUOTE]When I looked through the reviews of Permitase on the local board, all but one mention of oral sex was covered instead of BBBJ, which is a deal killer for most of us.
Some reviews said no sexual activity occurred at all, and the one promising BBBJ / CFS review indicated tge guy heard too much loud talking from the next room to enjoy himself.
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Those two would certainly normally reply quickly and I can see they are both currently active and working.
I suspect it was the lateness of your message. Just send another message.
Sometimes ladies are reported as taking more than a day to respond, but most do respond fairly quickly.
[QUOTE=DrDickus;2852066]Hey everyone.
All your feedback is appreciated. Wrote to Debora and Bia last night (relatively late) to schedule some meetings next days but no replies. It's still early but just curious. How is the custom in Portugal, should I send another message today or wait for their answer?
I'll come back here with hopefully reviews.[/QUOTE]
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Yes that place does appear to be very similar to Nuru Spa. There are a few reports over the last couple of years, and FS has always been reported as far as I can remember. Some of the ladies have also had profiles on sites likes Apartadox.
The reason why it's not discussed more is simply due to a large number of alternative independent ladies available for incall. If you go to these massage places, you're restricted to choosing amongst a handful of ladies (sometimes only 2 or 3), most with no reviews to go on. Even Nuru spa isn't discussed that much, although it has been mentioned a bit more. The ratings on the reviews for Permitase have been fine, but you may find some restrictions such as oral being with a condom.
I actually like the idea of combining a sensual massage with FS. However, the problem with these massage places is that very few ladies can actually deliver a good sensual massage. I wouldn't just go for FS, I'd much rather see the well reviewed independents and it's highly likely that I find a lot of them more attractive simply due to the extra choice!
[QUOTE=Jkol94;2852512]Has anyone from this forum ever tried [URL]https://www.permitase.pt/[/URL].
Apparently they offer FS same as the nuru spa that seems to be very popular here but I've not really seen it discussed much. I wondered if there was a particular reason for that. ??[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Harry1217;2852680]Yes that place does appear to be very similar to Nuru Spa. There are a few reports over the last couple of years, and FS has always been reported as far as I can remember. Some of the ladies have also had profiles on sites likes Apartadox.
The reason why it's not discussed more is simply due to a large number of alternative independent ladies available for incall. If you go to these massage places, you're restricted to choosing amongst a handful of ladies (sometimes only 2 or 3), most with no reviews to go on. Even Nuru spa isn't discussed that much, although it has been mentioned a bit more. The ratings on the reviews for Permitase have been fine, but you may find some restrictions such as oral being with a condom.
I actually like the idea of combining a sensual massage with FS. However, the problem with these massage places is that very few ladies can actually deliver a good sensual massage. I wouldn't just go for FS, I'd much rather see the well reviewed independents and it's highly likely that I find a lot of them more attractive simply due to the extra choice![/QUOTE]Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.
I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.
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If your priority is eroticism and you are happy with a happy ending that doesn't include BJ / FS, your list should include Isis:
[URL]https://www.somassagens.com/massagistas/feminino/lisboa/1188-isis-massagista-sensual-lisboa[/URL]
The ending is HJ or TF. But she is gorgeous and her work is hands down the best of its kind in Lisbon.
[QUOTE=Jkol94;2852697]Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.
I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Jkol94;2852697]Very interesting. The thing that put me off the independents is I like the simplicity and security of just booking through a spa. Plus, it feels like more of an authentic tourist experience, I'll leave the independents to the pros. Having said that though. I am now thinking I'd much rather have an amazing sensual massage with HR than a terrible massage with just okay FS. I'd imagine some would disagree but to me if I'm abroad somewhere new, for only a short while I want the experience to be memorable.
I know places like Paradise Spa and Wayang centre can be quite expensive and no FS, but if the massage only experience is better than FS I think I'd much prefer that even if it's even more expensive. I also think just attitude from the therapist and the environment of the studio can make a massive difference to the experience.[/QUOTE]You comments confuse me.
Here is Ines, one of the most highly regarded independent escorts in Lisbon. You know what you are going to get with her (great sex) and as good of a massage as you want, or no massage at all if you don't want it. Escorts offer a large menu. Massage parlors don't.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
Here is her most recent review from an American on a review board. How is not going to see her as touristy as a massage parlor?
"Ines's incall is in an apartment building. She was quick to respond and give me details to get up to her room. The space is clearly a studio hosting multiple providers, but the room she guided me too was clean and neat. She greeted me with a kiss and asked me to shower. While I was showering, she laid out a massage sheet on the mattress for hygiene purposes. When I finished she invited me to lay down. Then the fireworks began.
She started with a full massage of my legs and back, sliding her gorgeous little body over me as I moaned in appreciation. After a few minutes of this, she began nibbling on my ears, and, when I turned my head, she went in for a kiss. She invited me to turn over and started kissing me passionately. Then, she continued rubbing my body with hers.
After a few moments she started a wet and wild BBBJ, pressing down as deep as she could. She continued and I had to stop her before losing my load. On went the cover and we went at it in cowgirl, mish, and I finally lost it in the bag in doggy. She is a submissive girl and put my hands on her throat for light choking and moaned loudly when I smacked her ass.
I would see Ines again in a heartbeat. If you are visiting Lisbon she is a must-see."
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2853048]
Here is Ines, one of the most highly regarded independent escorts in Lisbon. You know what you are going to get with her (great sex) and as good of a massage as you want, or no massage at all if you don't want it.
[URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/ines-3/[/URL]
[/QUOTE]After Bia, another one that I've written about a while ago. Now, what about trying Monica (already reviewd too) [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/[/URL] ?
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[QUOTE=KamaLeo;2853550]After Bia, another one that I've written about a while ago. Now, what about trying Monica (already reviewd too) [URL]https://docemassagem.com/massagista/monica-portuguesa/[/URL] ?[/QUOTE]There is very little info on this site. Do these ladies do outcalls?
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Apartadox have the worst videos of the girls, far too close up.
If anyone has had any good but recent experiences with ladies currently on that site, if you could post the links to say just 2-3 ladies that would be great. It really would be useful to have a bank of say 10 ladies that can be relied upon. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2853663]Apartadox have the worst videos of the girls, far too close up.
If anyone has had any good but recent experiences with ladies currently on that site, if you could post the links to say just 2-3 ladies that would be great. It really would be useful to have a bank of say 10 ladies that can be relied upon. Thanks.[/QUOTE]It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.
My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]
Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-carolina-belmont-6095[/URL]
Eller shows her face in ads, which is rare. Her reviews on the local board are usually 8's and 9's out of 10.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]
An excellent Canadian reviewer say a lot of EP ladies and rated these four the highest. His views are supported by similar reviews by Americans and Brits on their review boards, especially regarding Joana and Lara. Joana is one of the few EP ladies who is kink-friendly and is fluent in English (all four speak English, though). All four of these EP ladies have excellent reviews on multiple boards.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-joana-montenegro-4360[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-6810[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-branco-7346[/URL]
Sara is a favorite of mine and I have seen her four times. She is a bit older now than the four listed above. Her BBBJ is simply outstanding, she loves sex and speaks fluent English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sara-valente-2534[/URL]
Debora has been mentioned favorably recently and has an excellent review on the local Portuguese board. She is the rare athletic black lady. Once again, your posts don't reveal much about what you are looking for.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-dias-7343[/URL]
Patricia Navarro is one of the highest rated escorts in Portugal. I am not sure if she is currently working in Lisbon or Porto. She basically gets page after page of favorable reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]
It has been a while, but a guy who used to post frequently on this board and the Montreal board raved about Valentina Sartori. I certainly trust his opinion. In the recent past, Valentina was mostly working in Cascais. I don't know if that has changed or not.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-sartori-4294[/URL]
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Patricia Navarro
For the last couple of posters asking about massage and some of Lisbon's best escorts, Patricia Navarro just received an excellent review on the International section of the Toronto escort review board. The Canadian who saw her in Lisbon recently said this about her:
"Patricia Navarro. What can I even say about her. She is one of the most amazing women I've ever been with, body, service, attitude, sensuality all 20/10. I thought she was beautiful as well, but that's subjective, kind of reminds me of drakes baby mama. Body is absolutely out of this world. BBBJ, BLS, rim, DFK you name it she is just so good at what she does. Reminds me of Angelina from SFT but more passionately sensual than passionately hardcore, but I think she probably has that in her bag as well. A very strong woman as well she gave me an amazing massage. Honestly one of my favorite experiences with an sp. She is extremely fun to hang out with, and is very sweet. Were still texting about how fun the session was, but unfortunately I don't have time to meet again. She has enough English to communicate a little, but also translate would be needed if you need to have a full conversation. "
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Thank you
Thank you at Mongerer88. This is excellent information. I will be in Lisbon in October and you just saved me hours of research.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2853748]It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.
My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]
Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type..[/QUOTE]
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Lia Aida
Another one I've already raved about: the beautiful and great Bangla Deshi, Lia Aida; [URL]https://www.apartadox.com/en/luxury-escort-lia-aida-5098[/URL].
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[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2853748]It helps us if you tell us what you are looking for in terms of a lady and a session. I assume you want BBBJ in the session instead of CBJ. Of the current Apartadox ads, you should focus on these based on reviews here on ISG, and the American, Canadian, United Kingdom and Portuguese review boards.
My friend Smuler says that Kelly Morais was one of the best escorts he has ever seen. He has made tremendous recommendations to me in Montreal and Barcelona and his opinion should be held in the highest regard. He likes busty escorts. Perhaps you do too?
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-kelly-morais-3310[/URL]
Carolina Belmont has a Sterling reputation if you like conversation and perhaps longer sessions that include dinner. The criticism of her is that she is more relationship oriented and less action oriented. In other words, you might only get one cum with her. Carolina is said to be something of a Playboy Bunny type.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-carolina-belmont-6095[/URL]
Eller shows her face in ads, which is rare. Her reviews on the local board are usually 8's and 9's out of 10.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eller-rocha-4428[/URL]
An excellent Canadian reviewer say a lot of EP ladies and rated these four the highest. His views are supported by similar reviews by Americans and Brits on their review boards, especially regarding Joana and Lara. Joana is one of the few EP ladies who is kink-friendly and is fluent in English (all four speak English, though). All four of these EP ladies have excellent reviews on multiple boards.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-joana-montenegro-4360[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-flora-neves-6810[/URL]
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-eva-branco-7346[/URL]
Sara is a favorite of mine and I have seen her four times. She is a bit older now than the four listed above. Her BBBJ is simply outstanding, she loves sex and speaks fluent English.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-sara-valente-2534[/URL]
Debora has been mentioned favorably recently and has an excellent review on the local Portuguese board. She is the rare athletic black lady. Once again, your posts don't reveal much about what you are looking for.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-debora-dias-7343[/URL]
Patricia Navarro is one of the highest rated escorts in Portugal. I am not sure if she is currently working in Lisbon or Porto. She basically gets page after page of favorable reviews.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-patricia-navarro-3827[/URL]
It has been a while, but a guy who used to post frequently on this board and the Montreal board raved about Valentina Sartori. I certainly trust his opinion. In the recent past, Valentina was mostly working in Cascais. I don't know if that has changed or not.
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-valentina-sartori-4294[/URL][/QUOTE]Thank you Mongerer88.
I am risk averse to the possibility of picking up any STIs. Therefore, having covered everything is good for me.
I like killer legs and bum and a lady with reasonably easy communication in english and with a great relaxed and positive attitude. A teaser would be a bonus. Outcall only.
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Vera's trick
Julieta Gomes / Vera Guerra has a new photo essay. She has spent every day of the summer at the beach from the looks of it: she could pass for mulatto now LOL It's an interesting choice of timing, given that doing a new Photoshop is always about drumming up more business for these girls.
A reminder that her record as Vera is terrible. She is pretty and has a hot (if plastic) body, but she has a terrible attitude and uses every time wasting tactic there is. I can't call her EP's worst performer, but she is absolutely on the list you don't want to call.
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September Lisbon report
Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.
Jude: 7/10.
It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.
She has an advanced level of English and conversation was both easy and interesting.
Looked pretty much like her pictures, Iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.
I didn't like the African style braid she had on top at the time.
She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.
Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success.
She loved getting eaten out and 69 was thrilling for both of us.
I would have appreciated a closer shave but it looked like either a 6 mm trim or lack of care.
I believe she did enjoy herself a lot and sounded genuine to me, mind you very loud.
Sex was good and she took initiative, seemed to enjoy herself too.
Apparently it's common in Portugal to offer CIM, she didn't list it specifically but happily obliged upon request.
Generally a good sweet vibe, I would call her again but not frequently due to her price.
Good on timing.
Flora Neves: 8/10.
Scheduled 48 h ahead, she came in a good 40 minutes late.
Spot on my type of women, she has that adorable / cute type of prettiness, I think Portuguese with some Arabic.
She does look like her pictures and she is gorgeous overall. Her womanhood is on the meatier side and a slight turn off for me.
Her level of English is lacking and it gripped our meeting a few times. I Had to rephrase "lay on your back".
As mentioned by other reviewers, she has an intense eye contact, you can tell she isn't faint-hearted at all.
Raw BJ was enjoyable and made with care. Agreed to be eaten out but wasn't much into it as for 69, yet both worth the view.
Sex was alright, nothing fancy here taking it chill. She mostly looked bored and not much into our encounter, I guess she enjoys it harder.
CIM was totally worth our encounter.
Didn't quite click with her, she had a hard-ass walled off vibe, seemed to get angry as I rephrased my requests.
I would call her again as I find her so pretty and would love getting under her skin and to fuck that attitude off her.
Found her vibe difficult to read, mostly got cold and hard.
Good on timing.
Bela Soares: ?10.
Had some blonde switcheroo, sorry I caved in and took her in, this is unacceptable practice and should be killed in the egg.
Worst experience, a girl sorry to be there, still had a decent BJ with CIM but she absolutely nuked my vibe.
I would love to see Bela but I don't think I'd call that number again, although this seems to be more specific to Privada (EP) and not this lady.
What would you do?
Juice: 6/10.
Scheduled way in advance, lovely tone, incall perfectly on time.
Not much of a talker, possibly shy as some mentioned but I doubt so.
She looks pretty like in her add.
Bit thrown off by her small body with all that silicone and laser removed tattoos.
Excellent raw BJ with lots of attention, executing requests with care, her tongue somehow felt like velvet.
Good DT she could bottom average with ease and really goes for it.
Takes initiative with sex and has stamina squatting over.
A bit too much fake moaning for me in a typical Chinese cute horny wife porn style.
Really smooth encounter but too professional for me.
If you don't care about the price tag I'd recommend her CIM which I missed on.
Throws a good working girl vibe.
Precise timing.
She easily could be more than a 6 to you if you like silicone pros with her looks.
Soraia: 9/10.
Scheduled just before, 20 min late.
I understand why some find her ugly, I was prepared for a disaster, and her face is indeed way out of standards with the tiniest chin I've seen in a while.
Like, off-slider videogame character creation's chin small.
Her facial traits are otherwise a good average and I honestly think she is cute in her own way.
With little English and an exquisite body it was mostly down to business.
Nice raw BJ. Agreed to get downed on but said she is a bit too sensitive there and stopped me after a bit.
Lovely 69, again a bit too sensitive for my apparently caveman style, but offered no directions either.
Entertaining sex then agreed to anal and took with much ease and rather little lube.
She didn't list CIM, didn't think to ask as I was glad she agreed to anal which she warned was not guaranteed.
I think she liked me going chilled and easy on her and had some fun.
I loved her sweetheart vibe and would call her again for buttfuck and cuddles in a blink.
Notes:
Catia Bom:
Requested Bolt (uber) money first, felt dodgy, skipped her.
Filipa Marques:
Answered once then ghosted me.
Isabela Zaz:
Answered once then ghosted me.
Ana Carol Leite:
Somehow I read she had some English, she has none.
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[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2854794]Julieta Gomes / Vera Guerra has a new photo essay. She has spent every day of the summer at the beach from the looks of it: she could pass for mulatto now LOL It's an interesting choice of timing, given that doing a new Photoshop is always about drumming up more business for these girls.
A reminder that her record as Vera is terrible. She is pretty and has a hot (if plastic) body, but she has a terrible attitude and uses every time wasting tactic there is. I can't call her EP's worst performer, but she is absolutely on the list you don't want to call.[/QUOTE]So much so, other escorts from EP tell horror stories from their customers who have seen her. She's also way less attractive than the photos suggest. Saw her in 2021 and she was late, poorly dressed, dishevelled and miserable, so I sent her away. The personality is indeed one of the worst I've encountered. Samanta Lima is the absolute worst at EP with Vera a very close second.
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Thanks for those great reviews.
Here is the link for Jude.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/jude/320571/[/URL]#.
[URL]https://pocketstars.com/girlnextdoor[/URL]
If a person reads the thread for the last 10 pages or so, there are at least twenty "to see" ladies, particularly those that speak English.
This is a great addition for everyone. Especially since she was previously unreviewed.
[QUOTE=AWildPotato;2854898]Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.
Jude: 7/10.
It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.
She has an advanced level of english and conversation was both easy and interesting.
Looked pretty much like her pictures, iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.
I didn't like the african style braid she had on top at the time.
She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.
Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success....[/QUOTE]
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She has slid quite a bit then. I met her in her first few weeks. Her attitude was terrible and performance mediocre, but she was turned out pretty well.
[QUOTE=PER23;2854914]So much so, other escorts from EP tell horror stories from their customers who have seen her. She's also way less attractive than the photos suggest. Saw her in 2021 and she was late, poorly dressed, dishevelled and miserable, so I sent her away. The personality is indeed one of the worst I've encountered. Samanta Lima is the absolute worst at EP with Vera a very close second.[/QUOTE]
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Jude advertises for 260/ h for outcall, which is outrageously expensive. Even the best incall ladies who don't really want to do outcalls don't ask for such a mark-up. Is that what she actually insists on?
[QUOTE=AWildPotato;2854898]Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.
Jude: 7/10..[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=AWildPotato;2854898]Back from my week in Lisbon, had a great time there, the city was nice too.
Jude: 7/10.
It was possible to schedule way in advance and she was approximately on time.
She has an advanced level of english and conversation was both easy and interesting.
Looked pretty much like her pictures, iberian white, just much more tired, likely recently partied hard.
I didn't like the african style braid she had on top at the time.
She did even send more pictures before our meet and promoted her "pocketstar" account.
Her raw BJ skill was ordinary, she goes for a little DT but without much success.
She loved getting eaten out and 69 was thrilling for both of us.
I would have appreciated a closer shave but it looked like either a 6 mm trim or lack of care.
I believe she did enjoy herself a lot and sounded genuine to me, mind you very loud.
Sex was good and she took initiative, seemed to enjoy herself too.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your work here. Jude still advertises that she is 20 , although she has been advertising as that age for years and for someone who says that she is a simple college girl and not a pro, she is on multiple websites.
Flora Neves. Would really be interested in her but her coldness woull stop me straight away.
Overall, pretty depressing stories.
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Do your homework
I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.
I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.
Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.
Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.
After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.
I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.
On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.
I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.
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Yeah, I would say the "anal surcharge" (I. E. Gouging you) foreshadowed her triggering hotel security. That has NEVER happened to me. Nor have I heard about it in Portugal before. So she was being quite shady.
I'm glad you at least managed to find Lia.
[QUOTE=IndulgentW;2855733]I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.
I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.
Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.
Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.
After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.
I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.
On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.
I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=IndulgentW;2855733]On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.[/QUOTE]CBJ?... She used to do it BB...
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Been trying to report my feedback for months now, but haven't been able to post. Admins seem to have fixed it now, so thanks for that!!
Thank you to all of you that continue to contribute to this community and post so much helpful info! Especially at exexpatriate and at monger88!!
Was in Lisbon for a couple of days earlier this year and had the opportunity to see some of these ladies. Definitely do some research before you go.
Here are my very high-level experiences, starting with who I found to be the best for my taste to the least inspiring. My criteria for this trip were young (just started college look), usually like more well-endowed ladies, true GFE types, well-reviewed as being professional / friendly. I am also fluent in Portuguese, so communication was easy, but being that this is an English speaking board, I'll include who can and can't confidently speak English.
Flora Neves.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/flora-neves/[/URL]
She is the youngest and best looking of all the girls I was able to spend time with. I believe that she is actually 19/20 and has an incredible body. Some of the reviews list her cons as too talkative and some slight smell of sweat on her. The talking thing is real, but I don't think it's too much at all. If you just want a fuck doll to lay there and say nothing, she not that. However, if you're looking for someone who is genuine, friendly, and engaged, she is definitely that. Her personality is exactly that of what a typical Portuguese young woman is; confident and charismatic. As for service, good BBBJ with attempts at DT, excellent rhythm and energy. Takes direction / your lead very well. Was an absolute pleasure to watch in cowgirl and although I wanted to test her offer to COF, couldn't make it through the way she rode. She's the real deal. Speaks good enough English and understands it perfectly well. Pictures of her are 100% accurate.
Soraia Albuquerque.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/soraia-albuquerque/[/URL]
I was a little concerned booking with Soraia going into it because, despite her incredibly hot pics, she has such mixed reviews. I ended up seeing her twice. One as a duo with Joana (more on that after), then wanted to see her again on her own. She is such a sweet girl, that you're 100% getting that feeling of having picked up a cute local. People have made comments about her teeth or her seeming "slow" on the local boards, but I've come to learn that the locals that review girls are often idiots (probably some of those everywhere in the world). She's quiet. In fact, she's the polar opposite of Flora mentioned above, but she has lots to say and can easily carry a conversation about meaningful things. She does have a bit of an overbite, but I actually found her incredibly cute and then she has one of, if not the best, natural body I have ever seen on a woman. The pictures are 100% accurate again here and overall looks-wise definitely passes for 19-20 and I think she's right around that age. A little more limited with her services with no CIM / COF, but offered a decent BBBJ with attempts at DT. She seemed really into it and was naturally wet during DATY with digits and into multiple positions during FS. Again, the view in both cowgirl and doggy was absolutely unreal! Would recommend, although be aware that her English is limited. I believe she understands reasonably well, but didn't really seem willing to speak a lot, but again. Didn't need to with me.
Lara Cortez (saw her when she was still Camila Pereira).
[URL]https://www.apartadox.com/acompanhante-de-luxo-lara-cortez-7973[/URL]
Lara has a super hot energy that I can see would border on PSE, mixed with the right partner. That's not my style, but I can see the potential there. I was pleasantly surprised when she walked in with how attractive she is. Not much was said on reviews about her facial beauty, but she is the girl that most people would hit on if they saw her irl. She's confident and has a sexy af swagger to her. Started with a very enthusiastic and wet BBBJ with intense eye contact. Equally enthusiastic in FS and follows lead very well! She looks smaller (thinner) than in her old pics (current ones are accurate), so I feel like she's lost weight recently, leading to the only knock on her which is that her chest sags a bit for someone her age. No stretch marks or anything, just not as perky as they probably could / should be. Spinner type and I have continued flashbacks to her, so the session was definitely hot enough to stick in my mind. She's 23, but passes for 19-20 as well. I don't think she'll be around long because we talked about her plan and she will probably only be around for a short while and then take her cash and execute on that plan. Smart girl. Speaks English well and communication with her was excellent.
Joana Montenegro.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/joana-montenegro/[/URL]
Saw Joana as part of a duo with Soraia. She has a beautiful face and a fantastic body (pics represent it well), but it's her energy and service that make her stand out. She's a true pro and knows how to make you feel like she's into it and is there for your pleasure. Her personality completely dominated Soraia even being in the room, which is what led to me booking the 1:1 with Soraia because she ended up a bit lost in the whole experience. Excellent BBBJ with DT and attention to the entire area, which was fun. As soon as she jumped on for FS, she started riding so aggressively that I had to get her to stop or would have blasted right there, but good lord!! She's actually close to 30, but looks like she's maybe 20-22, but also offers service levels of a woman who is comfortable and confident with herself and her body, like you get from someone 30+. 100% recommend and will repeat when I'm back, as long as she's still in the game. Excellent English as well and prefers tourists over locals. Only thing to note is that she wears braces right now, but that didn't affect the experience and is obviously temporary.
Eva Branco.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/eva-branco/[/URL]
Up and cummer in the local scene as already called out here. Pretty average looks and I wouldn't give her a second look if passing on the streets, other than her terrific chest. She has a curvy, but not heavy or chubby at all, body and a great firm chest. Jumped right to BBBJ and took enthusiastic attention to that service and was willing to DT the best she could. Took CIM with a bit of choking on the load (oops. Sorry), but was great about it and just went off to the washroom to clean herself up. Came back and make excellent efforts for FS and to prep me for round two, but I failed here. Saw her only a few hours after landing and was exhausted from the trip, so didn't really have it in me. Overall good experience, but nothing really stood out. She seems like she's more likely to be 23-25 than the 18-19 she promotes herself as and the pics are accurate, but make her seem just a bit sexier than she actually is in real life. I would repeat, but mostly because I let myself down by not being able to experience FS. English was fine with her, though I only spoke Portuguese.
Aurora Alfaiate.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/aurora-alfaiate/[/URL]
Tiny tiny tiny spinner. Very cute girl and looks really young. She could easily pass for 18-19, but the local boards say she's 25. Decent BBBJ with DT, but that's where the positivity ends. Was challenging to book with her and then she was late (traffic), then her energy was just pretty low from when she got there. Maybe just a bad day, just seemed bothered to be there right from when she walked in. Was too small to take my size properly (not a brag. Just if you're bigger, she would have a difficult time with you because of how small she is) and just overall didn't set a good mood. I told her she could go before our hour was done, because I wasn't feeling the vibe anyway. Cute girl, if you're looking for a spinner, but I feel like there are better options. Excellent English and she's well-travelled.
Finally. Margarita Vaz, who doesn't seem to advertise anymore, but I'm still going to include this, in case she reappears.
I genuinely don't see what all the local hype was about. The big promotion about her was that she's young and considered one of the hottest (young) looking SP's in the city. I just don't see it. She's not that attractive (very average looking), has a very average (to slightly chubby for her frame) body, is definitely thicker than her pictures made her seem and was incredibly uninspired in every aspect of her visit. IMO not worth seeing, as there are better options in every single aspect. She's also at least 22-23, but could also pass for 30, so people that said she was the closest to looking 18 are fucked in the head.
Here's how I would rank them for the following categories, depending on what is important to you;.
Young looking;.
Flora.
Soraia.
Lara.
Eva.
Aurora.
Joana.
Margarita.
Attractiveness overall. Body / face / fit.
Flora.
Lara.
Soraia.
Eva.
Joana.
Aurora.
Margarita.
Service Level. Energy, BBBJ quality, FS, etc (although the top 4 were all great so splitting hairs).
Joana.
Flora.
Eva.
Lara.
Soraia.
Aurora.
Margarita.
Attitude / Personality / Booking Ease.
Flora.
Lara.
Eva.
Soraia (as long as you're ok with the shy type).
Joana.
Aurora.
Margarita.
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Viviane Miler
Has anyone had the opportunity to see Viviane Miler yet? She looks great and seems to have fairly open service. Thinking to partake on my next visit.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL]
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Isn't this just good security?
[QUOTE=IndulgentW;2855733]she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.
After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.
[/QUOTE]Perhaps I'm mistaken but isn't this somewhat common and actually just good security? In countries where western men commonly visit (for example Phils, Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia) it's known that there are many women meeting men for mutual benefit but it's also not terribly uncommon for unscrupulous women to try to steal from men. When security sees a woman coming up that looks like she might be an escort they will check where she's going, ring the guest and make sure her company is expected and then often when she leaves they will ring the guest again asking if it's ok to let her go to make sure she didn't take anything / rip the guest off. This is for your security. I guess you could say you have a legit complain if the issues was that you wanted someone that looked very conservative and not like an escort.
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[QUOTE=FutureLegend;2856447]Has anyone had the opportunity to see Viviane Miler yet? She looks great and seems to have fairly open service. Thinking to partake on my next visit.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/viviane-miler/[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, several times. She's perhaps the best looking girl next door type at EP next to Flora Neves. Legitimately 20 years old.
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Anyone knows Fernanda
Has anyone Experience with [URL]https://fernanda-lisbon.webnode.page/contact/[/URL] Not cheap but seems interesting.
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Not in Portugal.
We've addressed this before in the thread. But to keep it short, many hotels have key-secured elevators, which means you need to go meet the lady in the lobby. But the few who don't aren't going to stop a lady who enters and goes about her business discretely and with confidence shouldn't be stopped. In a lot of other countries, they will harass women in the hotel as part of an anti-prostitute policy; the Portuguese don't care about that. Security isn't the motivation for the most part, and it isn't really an issue in the country at issue.
So to get picked up by security makes me wonder just WTF she was doing. That I.
[QUOTE=Chichichi;2856567]Perhaps I'm mistaken but isn't this somewhat common and actually just good security? In countries where western men commonly visit (for example Phils, Thailand, Vietnam, Colombia) it's known that there are many women meeting men for mutual benefit but it's also not terribly uncommon for unscrupulous women to try to steal from men. When security sees a woman coming up that looks like she might be an escort they will check where she's going, ring the guest and make sure her company is expected and then often when she leaves they will ring the guest again asking if it's ok to let her go to make sure she didn't take anything / rip the guest off. This is for your security. I guess you could say you have a legit complain if the issues was that you wanted someone that looked very conservative and not like an escort.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=PER23;2856578]Yes, several times. She's perhaps the best looking girl next door type at EP next to Flora Neves. Legitimately 20 years old.[/QUOTE]Thank you!! Flora was the comparable that I was looking for. Time to put those travel points to work!
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Thank you for the feedback on Telma and Lia, albeit without any detail.
'Do your homework' is indeed an apt title. You picked the wrong lady to start with from those two, as Debora has very good reviews across different sites, where as Telma appears to be unreviewed.
In my opinion you shouldn't have cancelled Debora either given the positive feedback about her; even if security had stopped her, that was a small price to pay for what would likely have been a good meet.
At least you had a good experience with Lia.
[QUOTE=IndulgentW;2855733]I've always wanted a GFE experience with a dark skinned spinner and Lisbon seemed the right city for that.
I had limited time, two or maybe three 2 h timeslots over 3 days, to meet someone and have never felt more spoiled for choice.
Made a shortlist of girls and made 2 outcall appointments in my hotel on successive nights. Telma Vaz and Debora Diaz.
Telma came back first, quoting 200, but walked it back by removing an anal surcharge I hadn't asked for. Left me worried a bit, but not too much. A long story short, I should have seen that for the red flag it was. It was a subpar experience with an uninterested girl and she managed to get the hotel security suspicious enough to stop her on the way up and call me for verification that I was expecting her. That was a first for me.
After that encounter with security, I didn't want to have outcall issues and had to cancel Debora.
I went to Permitase instead and received a subpar massage that ended in a nice enough FS, but my mood was soured by then.
On my last day I saw Lia Aida. It was a great experience despite ending in just a CBJ.
I'll go back, but will try to be smarter next time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Borrah;2856615]Has anyone Experience with [URL]https://fernanda-lisbon.webnode.page/contact/[/URL] Not cheap but seems interesting.[/QUOTE]A group of ladies have begun advertising on webnode using English language only ads at relatively high prices.
[URL]https://escorts-portugal-upscale.webnode.pt/escorts-in-lisbon/[/URL]
Many of the pictures are recognizable from almost a decade or more ago.
[URL]https://escorts-portugal-upscale.webnode.pt/escorts-in-lisbon/escort-angelina-torres/angelina-torres-pictures/[/URL]#!
And what is alarming is that some of the pictures have the bestescortsportugal stamp, which was an agency that was part of a large conglomerate that had a terrible reputation for fake pictures, ladies leaving a half hour into a three hour date (they ran specials) and one very credible report of a buy being extorted by a lady. She said to pay him or she would start yelling the are word.
I thought and hoped that conglomerate had disappeared. One of the profiles on webnode, Cintia Lemos, was a valid independent provider, but she used to advertise on Apartadox and her last reviews were in 2008. Those are the same pictures, but she has no current ad on Apartadox.
Based on this information, I would not trust any ad on Webnode.
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I have two rules about this sort of thing, and the overlap heavily:
Don't bother with any website not already on my photo-verified list. And don't bother with anyone who asks for substantially more than the market rate.
The latter isn't just about cost, but also a red flag for other reasons. There are a few ladies who ask for slightly more than market rate, which is A-OK: they might be testing the waters, think they are worth it or whatever, but they aren't blatantly pulling one over.
One of Portugal's real advantages are its photo-verified websites. They have their problems, but nothing compared to dealing with Eurogirls, webnode or whatever. Sometimes you will see women who advertise on Apartadox on one of these dodgier sites, for example, but you never see the dodgy ads on the upper tier sites.
It's really simple. Figure out what is in the top tier for reliability. Stick with those. 90% of your potential problems are gone. Why mess around with this other stuff? It's a waste of time.
[QUOTE=Mongerer88;2856979]Based on this information, I would not trust any ad on Webnode.[/QUOTE]
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Lisbon
Fellas, I have a chance to stop over in Europe for 2 days on my way from China to Chicago. I have never mongered in Europe, have a trip to Germany next year and figured I will get the FKK experience later. I have been to Medellin many times, Philippines, Costa Rica, DR & other south American countries. I love the GFE type experience south american girls offer & given the short time, my plan is to stick with 2-3 escorts during the day and if I like them ask one to stay over night. After RTFF, I think Lisbon fits the bill for me. I don't care so much about the food, city etc only the quality of the women in looks & service. Am I wrong? Would you recommend Lisbon for this type of short trip? Or Is there another option I am missing. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.
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[QUOTE=DaMonger;2857147]Fellas, I have a chance to stop over in Europe for 2 days on my way from China to Chicago. I have never mongered in Europe, have a trip to Germany next year and figured I will get the FKK experience later. I have been to Medellin many times, Philippines, Costa Rica, DR & other south American countries. I love the GFE type experience south american girls offer & given the short time, my plan is to stick with 2-3 escorts during the day and if I like them ask one to stay over night. After RTFF, I think Lisbon fits the bill for me. I don't care so much about the food, city etc only the quality of the women in looks & service. Am I wrong? Would you recommend Lisbon for this type of short trip? Or Is there another option I am missing. I appreciate any advice. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Lisbon is a good city for the value, quality and level of service girls generally provide. Only thing I'd say is go with a good independent if you want an overnight. From my experience, the agency girls work to a quota of 3-4 clients per day and don't favour longer bookings. I'd book 2-3 hours with most girls and they'd be running off to another client the second we were done.
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[QUOTE=PER23;2857226]Lisbon is a good city for the value, quality and level of service girls generally provide. Only thing I'd say is go with a good independent if you want an overnight. From my experience, the agency girls work to a quota of 3-4 clients per day and don't favour longer bookings. I'd book 2-3 hours with most girls and they'd be running off to another client the second we were done.[/QUOTE]Thanks. Girls on apartadox like websites are independent right?
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Where is the photo-verified website list
Where do I find your photo-verified list to you referenced? A straight google search brings up super sketchy results. Thanks!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2857004]I have two rules about this sort of thing, and the overlap heavily:
Don't bother with any website not already on my photo-verified list. And don't bother with anyone who asks for substantially more than the market rate.
The latter isn't just about cost, but also a red flag for other reasons. There are a few ladies who ask for slightly more than market rate, which is A-OK: they might be testing the waters, think they are worth it or whatever, but they aren't blatantly pulling one over.
One of Portugal's real advantages are its photo-verified websites. They have their problems, but nothing compared to dealing with Eurogirls, webnode or whatever. Sometimes you will see women who advertise on Apartadox on one of these dodgier sites, for example, but you never see the dodgy ads on the upper tier sites.
It's really simple. Figure out what is in the top tier for reliability. Stick with those. 90% of your potential problems are gone. Why mess around with this other stuff? It's a waste of time.[/QUOTE]
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Sure thing. Portalprivado, Apartadox, Somassagens and Docemassagem.
There are very, very few worthwhile ladies in Lisbon who aren't advertising on one or more of these four. And all Escort Privada girls also run ads on Apartadox.
[QUOTE=TimeOutNow;2857424]Where do I find your photo-verified list to you referenced? A straight google search brings up super sketchy results. Thanks![/QUOTE]
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And a lot of people are talking about reviews. Where do you find reviews of the escorts? These sites don't seem to have them. And how can you know if someone is independent? Really appreciate the info!
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2857501]Sure thing. Portalprivado, Apartadox, Somassagens and Docemassagem.
There are very, very few worthwhile ladies in Lisbon who aren't advertising on one or more of these four. And all Escort Privada girls also run ads on Apartadox.[/QUOTE]
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My understanding is the forum doesn't like it when we link to other forums. But there is a locals review board, and that is one of the major sources of info.
[QUOTE=TimeOutNow;2857536]And a lot of people are talking about reviews. Where do you find reviews of the escorts? These sites don't seem to have them. And how can you know if someone is independent? Really appreciate the info![/QUOTE]
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Hotel Recommendation
Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.
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[QUOTE=DaMonger;2857849]Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.[/QUOTE]All hotels in Lisbon, to the best of our knowledge, are girl friendly.
I have liked all three of these.
[URL]https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/lisemqq-the-emerald-house-lisbon/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.ihg.com/holidayinn/hotels/us/en/lisbon/lisbn/hoteldetail[/URL]
[URL]https://holiday-inn-lisbon.lisbon-hotel.org/en/[/URL]#main.
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Hotel
I tested these ones and are OK.
Hotel Roma.
[URL]https://www.hotelroma.pt/en/[/URL]
Hotel Alif. Campo pequeno.
[URL]https://www.alifhotels.com/en/Alif/Hotel-Alif-Campo-Pequeno.aspx[/URL]
But in general I suppose almost all Lisbon Hotel are girl friendly.
[QUOTE=DaMonger;2857849]Does anyone have a recommendation for a nice hotel that is also girl friendly? Will be staying for 3 days over the weekend.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=KrisMonger;2858167]Stayed in Lisbon 4 nights and this is.[/QUOTE]Finishing what I started in this post.
5 nights - 4 girls as Outcall. Lisbon is a super easy click and order.
All girls were from Euro and the one with most restrictions was Manu - [URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/manu/515962/[/URL] . No OWO, no kissing etc. She also wanted to go out after event quickly.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/beatriz/556608/[/URL] - Hotter than the photos in person. Solid service. It is a shame that I only found her on my last day in Lisbon.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/iza-castilho/480553/[/URL] - Solid GFE with good english. Visited me twice!.
[URL]https://www.eurogirlsescort.com/escort/pietra/425499/[/URL] - Pietra -another solid GFE experience. She is tall!. Super service oriented!.
Cost was consistently at 250 Euros for the outcall.
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And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.
Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.
Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.
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Independent v agency
[QUOTE=ExExpatriate;2858506]And that is why you shouldn't mess with that Eurogirls site. 250/ h is fantastically overpriced for Lisbon.
Iza Castilho is a longtime EP girl, who moved down to Lisbon from Porto. Their flat rate is 150/ h, so if you were charged 250, you got snookered.
Pietra is an ex-EP girl who now only advertises on dubious sites like Eurogirls or Massage Republic. She wasn't especially well-reviewed back in her EP days, so if she is very service oriented now, it would be quite a switch. And again, 250/ h is extremely overpriced.[/QUOTE]Are the guys on EP and Apartodox independent ladies advertising on the sites or are they agency? When you contact the listed whatsapp numbers, are you dealing with the lady herself or someone on her behalf? Thanks.
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Recommendations
Hi,
Does anyone have an informed views on the following ladies;.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/[/URL]
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Hotel Bar question
Are there any girls that work from hotel bars similar to Poland and some other Easter European countries?
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I don't know of either first hand, but Mongerer gives Sara pretty high marks. Ariana has been reviewed a few times that I've seen, and she was well-received, with the caveat that you'd better appreciate Amazons. She is as fit as she looks on the photos, and is six feet tall.
[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2858923]Hi,
Does anyone have an informed views on the following ladies;.
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/sara-valente/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/[/URL]
[URL]https://escortprivada.com/escort/ariana-luz/[/URL][/QUOTE]
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Most of the Apartadox ads are independents. However, EP advertises all of their roster there as well. They are the only actual agency that does so. Sometimes a lady working at a spa may also advertise on Apartadox, but they are doing so of their own initiative and may not be an "employee" of the spa, but merely renting space from them. The spa isn't advertising them. EP is the only one that does that, and I suspect they have some kind of tie with Apartadox.
So with EP, it depends. Some of the girls like to handle their own communications, and some prefer the agency to do it. However, the numbers all belong to the agency, so they are looking, even if they aren't talking.
But for an independent, it is always the lady herself. She may have some cut and paste boilerplate ready to answer basic questions (which is fine -- those must be asked 50 times a day), but it is her.
[QUOTE=BrownEyes;2858915]Are the guys on EP and Apartodox independent ladies advertising on the sites or are they agency? When you contact the listed whatsapp numbers, are you dealing with the lady herself or someone on her behalf? Thanks.[/QUOTE]