Minsk

[QUOTE=Stevie69;2161615]That is the old Belorussian Ruble (BYR), which is obsolete and no longer used. Make sure select the current (BYN). When the change occurred, in July 1, 2016, one BYN was set as 1000 BYR.

Currently, one BYN is about 0.50 USD (50 cents).[/QUOTE]1 BYN is 10 000 BYR.

I have read the reports here, I am surprised about the local price rates of women because it is as expensive as in west Europe. Then, I have looked at hotel rates and apartment rates. I found them outrageous. We talk about a city (Minsk) where the average salary is $400 while the local good escort is $200 per hour. Nobody can pay those escort in Minsk. Do they rely on foreigners? Is there a price for foreigner and a price for local people?

When you see that airbnb apartment in Minsk are more expensive than in Moscow, there is a problem.

It is really strange because Belarus is a poor country.

Do you agree? Did I miss something?

I went to Rich Cat and right away I understood that it is going to be difficult because there is this huge bar at the centre of the nightclub. There is a coyote club like show and the music is very loud. You have to scream in the ears of the girls to be understood. There were lots of men, obviously punters. The girls were already surrounded by punters. There were not that many girls. In fact, there were lots of men for the number of women. Then, I looked around, and I saw that the most beautiful pros were already "booked" by guys. I didn't understand how they met. I think they perhaps met before getting in rich cat. Perhaps, there is a website I am not aware of. Those girls didn't come from mamba. Ru because they looked better compared to what you can find on mamba. Ru. Those girls all looked like 1 m70+ with long legs and a supermodel figure and I came for that type of women.

The guys looked like businessmen & took their time just like they booked the girl for the evening.

Then, the 6's, 7's were around the bar on their own pretending to watch the show. I didn't jump on the 6's,7's because the price rates are the same whether you go for beautiful Belorussian or average looking Belorussian. I have noticed that no guys jumped on the 6's,7's too and I found it surprising.

I thought that if guys would only go to rich cat, it is normal they would think that Belarus is not the place for P4 P. I talked to a local who told me that rich cat wasn't the place it used to be. Now, they block the girls at entrance.

I was always standing and it was good because at least I didn't waste my money booking a table and being accompanied with two average looking women. It is very frustrating to see that the women with perfect body (like Victoria secret model) are with other guys and there is nothing you can do about it. Speaking in Russian or not does not make any difference in rich cat.

Did you try any other places like Dozari / Mojito Bar, Blackhall Bar or DotXX1 at the top of the Hilton Doubletree? I'm heading there soon and looking for those same supermodel types.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2167891]I went to Rich Cat and right away I understood that it is going to be difficult because there is this huge bar at the centre of the nightclub. There is a coyote club like show and the music is very loud. You have to scream in the ears of the girls to be understood. There were lots of men, obviously punters. The girls were already surrounded by punters. There were not that many girls. In fact, there were lots of men for the number of women. Then, I looked around, and I saw that the most beautiful pros were already "booked" by guys. I didn't understand how they met. I think they perhaps met before getting in rich cat. Perhaps, there is a website I am not aware of. Those girls didn't come from mamba. Ru because they looked better compared to what you can find on mamba. Ru. Those girls all looked like 1 m70+ with long legs and a supermodel figure and I came for that type of women.

The guys looked like businessmen & took their time just like they booked the girl for the evening.

Then, the 6's, 7's were around the bar on their own pretending to watch the show. I didn't jump on the 6's,7's because the price rates are the same whether you go for beautiful Belorussian or average looking Belorussian. I have noticed that no guys jumped on the 6's,7's too and I found it surprising.t.[/QUOTE]

At Johhnysutton.

I went to Dozari it has a friendly atmosphere and since there is not that much light it is possible to easily approach women. Due to some personal activities, I could not bring back a girl home. However, I talked to some women in a limited Russian / English and found to my surprise that it was very easy to start a conversation. The girls were 6's, 7's, 8's. I must admit it is difficult to make the different between pros and freebies at Dozari so you can't be straight forward. I know a technique to use in this case, you must talk about going back to your apartment / hotel against a little gift. I discovered that Belorussian women were underrated. I didn't see spoiled female players as I saw in Russia and even more in Ukraine. I think about the spoiled princess mindset. I think there are lots of punting opportunities in Belarus. From what I have seen from Minsk there are multiple clubs with totally different atmosphere. Rich cat was different. The atmosphere was very cold. I had the impression that it was a meeting location for guys who already books their girls on topescortbabe or mamba. By the way, there are lots of interesting women on tinder in Belarus.

In Dozari everything was normal, men approached women and left with them. Don't go to Dozari when there is a concert because there is nothing you can do during the concert. I do encourage you to better go to Dozari than Rich cat. I don't advise to go to Rich cat.

Now, I would like to talk about an issue. Every time I went to a Belarus club, I could see those many beautiful dancers with 10 body. They are tall and look good. I am frustrated to see that it is rare to find such kind of women on the dance floor side. Meanwhile, on the day, you can find those women with a supermodel body on the street.

Thanks Henri, I'll have 4 nights in Minsk staying at the Hilton, I'll check out Dozari and obviously DotXX1 as it's in the hotel. Not sure about Next. It used to be the place but it seems it no longer is. BTW I'm following a number of girls on Instagram, might approach them in advance, but you mentioned tinder. Never used it before. Anyway Belarus is an unknown to me so I'm open to whatever chances I come across.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2169588]At Johhnysutton.

I went to Dozari it has a friendly atmosphere and since there is not that much light it is possible to easily approach women. Due to some personal activities, I could not bring back a girl home. However, I talked to some women in a limited Russian / English and found to my surprise that it was very easy to start a conversation. The girls were 6's, 7's, 8's. I must admit it is difficult to make the different between pros and freebies at Dozari so you can't be straight forward. I know a technique to use in this case, you must talk about going back to your apartment / hotel against a little gift. I discovered that Belorussian women were underrated. I didn't see spoiled female players as I saw in Russia and even more in Ukraine. I think about the spoiled princess mindset. I think there are lots of punting opportunities in Belarus. From what I have seen from Minsk there are multiple clubs with totally different atmosphere. Rich cat was different. The atmosphere was very cold. I had the impression that it was a meeting location for guys who already books their girls on topescortbabe or mamba. By the way, there are lots of interesting women on tinder in Belarus..[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JonnySutton;2172318]Thanks Henri, I'll have 4 nights in Minsk staying at the Hilton, I'll check out Dozari and obviously DotXX1 as it's in the hotel. Not sure about Next. It used to be the place but it seems it no longer is. BTW I'm following a number of girls on Instagram, might approach them in advance, but you mentioned tinder. Never used it before. Anyway Belarus is an unknown to me so I'm open to whatever chances I come across.[/QUOTE]I encourage you to take a look at those pictures from DotXX.

[URL]https://foursquare.com/v/bardotxx1/5851ce99ce66aa0461314733?openPhotoId=589356b0ba883735f3748ee0[/URL]

Since it is new to you, I would like to tell you some things about Belorussian women. They may look luxurious but Belarus is poorer than Russia. In fact, even they are well dressed and look like supermodels. It does not make them rich. The places look posh but it is for the 1% of people of Belarus. Don't be impressed by Belorussian women because, their makeup, their clothes and jewelry is a facade only.

The approach of local pros is easy because other customers are used to see beautiful women. Consequently, if you walk straight to a table with a beautiful blonde, no one will care about it. Don't get used by a woman who would like you to pay her diner with champagne. Otherwise, your budget will sky-rocket. Use the right wording. I have no idea if those women speak English but usually in Russian, I say: "My hotel room is in this hotel. Would you like to come to my room and play with me? She may be confused. Then, you can tell her. "If you are ready come to me to the bar". You may lean those sentences in Russian.

Let me explain to you why I use this technique. In Eastern Europe, there are nightclub scams where you site and the girl orders many things like meals and champagne. At the end, you may have no sex but you spent a lot of money. That's why I always stay at the bar when I go somewhere. At least, I look at the price tables. It is not about being stingy it is about spending your money in the women rather than useless things.

I the like to warn gents about Belorussian advertised escort prices. I have found that the girls were systematically more expensive than in Moscow. It is crazy that Minsk girls are now more expensive than Russian women. For example, when I see that Minsk escorts can cost 240 USD per hour, it makes me laugh because the average salary in Belarus is 450 USD / month. Don't get scammed. You should negotiate when you see that Belarusian women are more expensive than Russian women. Tell them they are too expensive. Tell them, that it is not worth hiring them because it is cheaper in Moscow or st Pete. Mention Belarus does not count men who are as rich as in the western world or in Russia.

Belarusian escort prices should not be as high as in the western world because everything is cheaper in Belarus. People talk about oligarchs. Which oligarchs? Where? The 0,01% of the Minsk population? I think they have very few customers from Belarus who would accept to pay 250 USD for 1 hour with a local escort.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2175988]I the like to warn gents about Belorussian advertised escort prices. I have found that the girls were systematically more expensive than in Moscow. It is crazy that Minsk girls are now more expensive than Russian women. For example, when I see that Minsk escorts can cost 240 USD per hour, it makes me laugh because the average salary in Belarus is 450 USD / month. Don't get scammed. You should negotiate when you see that Belarusian women are more expensive than Russian women. Tell them they are too expensive. Tell them, that it is not worth hiring them because it is cheaper in Moscow or st Pete. Mention Belarus does not count men who are as rich as in the western world or in Russia.

Belarusian escort prices should not be as high as in the western world because everything is cheaper in Belarus. People talk about oligarchs. Which oligarchs? Where? The 0,01% of the Minsk population? I think they have very few customers from Belarus who would accept to pay 250 USD for 1 hour with a local escort.[/QUOTE]How this is scam if every girl decides by herself how much to ask for her services regardless what is an average salary? Is there some global index of salary / asking price? You can laugh and not pay, then go back to your hotel / home alone. Telling them that prices are cheaper than in Moscow or St. Petersburg does not get you anywhere. It is not matter what you are think about prices, it matters what price they accept to go with you and that is always individual.

I agree, there is no scam here. Three is stupidity, if you pay those prices, but otherwise it is normal supply and demand.

[QUOTE=HenriDufresne;2175988]I the like to warn gents about Belorussian advertised escort prices. I have found that the girls were systematically more expensive than in Moscow. It is crazy that Minsk girls are now more expensive than Russian women. For example, when I see that Minsk escorts can cost 240 USD per hour, it makes me laugh because the average salary in Belarus is 450 USD / month. Don't get scammed. You should negotiate when you see that Belarusian women are more expensive than Russian women. Tell them they are too expensive. Tell them, that it is not worth hiring them because it is cheaper in Moscow or st Pete. Mention Belarus does not count men who are as rich as in the western world or in Russia.

Belarusian escort prices should not be as high as in the western world because everything is cheaper in Belarus. People talk about oligarchs. Which oligarchs? Where? The 0,01% of the Minsk population? I think they have very few customers from Belarus who would accept to pay 250 USD for 1 hour with a local escort.[/QUOTE]

So I'm thinking of visiting Minsk at the end of May for a weekend. If anyone fancies meeting up to be wingmen I'd be keen.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2176632]So I'm thinking of visiting Minsk at the end of May for a weekend. If anyone fancies meeting up to be wingmen I'd be keen.[/QUOTE]I think that at beginning of June (first week) I will travel to Minsk with some friends. So if you change plans we can meet and look for fun together.

Cheers.

[QUOTE=Jacher;2176723]I think that at beginning of June (first week) I will travel to Minsk with some friends. So if you change plans we can meet and look for fun together.

Cheers.[/QUOTE]Hi,

Yeah I might be able to move it to start of June for the first weekend.

[QUOTE=JohnnyWishBone;2176632]So I'm thinking of visiting Minsk at the end of May for a weekend. If anyone fancies meeting up to be wingmen I'd be keen.[/QUOTE]Yes. Will be there 01 June and leaving the 2nd.

Thanks guys for the excellent info. I'll be passing through Minsk in late June for one Friday night only, and it seems there are a few good choices. Thanks especially to SgtBoyle2 for the excellent trip reports, tons of great info there. It seems that Black House might be my sort of place! Thanks again and I hope I have something useful to report after my visit.