Caracas

of course you had a bad time. you paid official prices! any atm or credit card will get you raped. any and all mongers should arrive here with a huge wad of cash carefully hidden throughout their body and luggage. the larger the denominations the better. the beach you went to is a craphole beach because it is accessible by bus. all the poor people go there, [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134][CodeWord134][/url] in the water and don't pick up after themselves. the nice beaches are only accessible by car.

shopping for a fuck on line is always high risk in my book. you could have wound up in a hairdresser's favela in rio, lima or bogota.

in conclusion, venezuela is not the destination for the casual monger. you come here if you have scoured the forum, made a plan and brought a wad of cash.

[quote=mr enternational]

$125 for a night out in a third-world socialist country? you have to be fucking kidding me.

I am living in Caracas. the Grand Melia is a great hotel in a crappy part of town, near stripper bars and SW corners. The Marriott or Embassy Suites is near/in El Rosal which is neighborhood to most of the upmarket love hotels like the Hotel American Dallas.

You will notice on Sexy Caracas (which has a stanglehold on most P4P adverts) that the majority of girls operate in El Rosal. If you are just coming to fuck, you might want to see how much it would cost to book one of those hotels and skip the pretense of chica friendly.

I use a local car service. They recently picked me up Sunday night at the airport at 23:30 from a trip outside of Caracas and took me to my house on the other side of downtown.

The trip was 20 minutes, the driver had been waiting for me almost an hour. The cost was 80,000 Bolivars or 16 dollars at the free market rate. I paid in local currency. I don't think the driver would have complained if I had just given him a 20 dollar bill.

I don't think they speak English. But if any of you are interested I can post their phone number.

[QUOTE=Dars Veider]Since I will visit Venezuela soon, I was wondering if you can answer some questions for me:

1. Is it better to have cash Dollars or cash Euros for exchange?

What is the black market exchange rate for Euros?

2. How safe is the airport bus from CCS to the city? Can you recommend it?

Any help/ answer highly appreciated!

Cheers[/QUOTE]

If you want safe and not get taken, i would use Reinaldo
[url]http://www.venezueladriver.com/[/url]
I used many times before, he pick me up from the airport, took me everywhere i requested and make sure i got back to the hotel safe. He help me with the translation when getting girls. He can also take you ot the beach.
Dont know if anyone can speak more about him, but he is top notch in my book. IM if u want his email.

[quote=mr enternational]i really wouldn't waste my time in ccs. i am surprised that master yoda still has not been. i took the hit for everybody this time. i went back in october but i didn't post a report. i went to meet a hairstylist who i met online. i figured it's south america, how bad could this place be? the answer: very bad!

i landed and only had us$20 on me. i changed it at a booth and got about 40,000 bolivars. boy, i thought, just like colombia, dr, ecuador, peru, this 40,000 is going to take me a long way. wrong! since my flight arrived at 8pm, the little airport-city shuttle bus had already stopped. so when old girl arrived we had to take a taxi to her house. we went to the near end of the airport and she asked a driver how much it would be. he said $75. damn, i thought, she must live a hell of a long way. i gave her the money that i had exchanged. here baby, i only have 40,000 bolivars on me. she said that it was okay and she would pay the rest. so we went to the other end to find a cheaper taxi. she told me not to speak. $50, he said. she said it was a bargain and we hopped in and went to her house. (she actually lives in the barrio, but same same.) i set my stopwatch as always. 18m30s of highway driving and we arrive at the bottom of the barrio just off the exit. the rest of the night was just formality, stretching the ten minute walk up the hill out by stopping to meet cousins and aunts and having a beer with the family and finally getting to the house for a home-cooked meal followed by intense fucking.

she lives in her own house (shack) with her son. i would say the whole place is 20ftx10ft (yeah i live in the states and we are still on the assbackwards system). that includes kitchen/couch(10x10) separated by a doorway curtain that leads to the bedroom (5x10), which is separated by a wall to the bathroom/closet(5x10). her and her 15 year-old son share bunkbeds. but he does have sense enough to go to his friend's or cousin's houses at times to give us privacy.

the next day all three of us headed to the beach. we took one bus (the little ones that are independently owned) to downtown and another to the beach. the whole day she paid for everything because i had not been to an atm. two hours passed before we arrived at the beach, which is just 10 minutes on the other side of the airport. this must have been one of the worst beaches i have seen in my life. no sand, just dark brown dirt. and the dirtiest water. i ended up biting the bullet and getting in the water anyway.

we headed back to the house to take showers and go to dinner. but thinking of going up and down that hill, i said baby why not eat now, then go home to take showers and rest before going out. good idea she said. so when we got off the bus close to the barrio we walked to a restaurant. and a basic restaurant it was. we had 1 whole rotisserie chicken, boiled potatoes (nothing fancy, not even butter... just peeled, cut in half and boiled), her son had a personal-sized pizza, we had three glasses of juice and one bottle of water. $50 (fifty fucking dollars/87,000 fucking bolivars). i could have sworn the bill was wrong, but after looking at the menu again i went ahead and put it on my card.

so we leave there and go to the atm. baby, how much money will we be needing to go out tonight? well the taxi will be about $50 and we will spend about $75 at the club. $125 for a night out in a third-world socialist country? you have to be fucking kidding me. uh baby. i don't think we are going out tonight. there is no way i am going to spend more to go out here than i would in my own damn country. so we went back to the house to take showers, talk, watch music dvds and fuck.

when i left the next morning there was at least a 20 minute walk to catch the shuttle van (good thing i travel light). the shuttle was $6/person to the airport. i think it runs from 6am to 7pm, as for the location where you pick it up and it drops you...god only knows.

summary: this place is not recommended.
1) i know there are some blackmarket people where you can get us$ exchanged for twice the interbank exchange but everything will still be fairly expensive.
2) the women were not all that. you probably would not give them a second look. i think my girl was the best i had seen.
3) my friends tell me that other cities in venezuela are much cheaper than caracas.
4) i can not speak on p4p or hotels, but judging from the price of everything else...jesus!
5) y'all are grown men. make your own decision. maybe your experience will be different than mine, but why risk it. go to colombia or dr instead.

p.s. if anyone knows how the favelas in rio look just picture one big city full of them. that is caracas.[/quote]

too bad you had such a bad time.

i've had some great times in caracas. trust me ... there are lots of hot chicas in caracas.

it's definitely not as user friendly as colombia. i never used atms, always exchanged money black market, and knew the places to go.

good luck ....

[QUOTE=Wise Buddy]Coming to a foreign county and making the ladies pay for is more than cheap.
The only one that has to be blamed is you.
Travelling to Venezuela with 20 USD is naive if not stupid.
You could inform yourself here in the forum, you did not, its your responsibility.
But you prefer whinig and complaining about Venezuela.
And when only having 20 USD in the pocket every country is expensive.
And when your lady lives in the middle of nowhere you cant blame anybody that there is no busstop in front of her housedoor.
Stay at home and enjoy the local girls.
Thats not Caracas but your way of living aand seeing the world.
W.B.[/QUOTE]

Dude.
1. I never said I had a bad time. I had a good time. But it is not a place that will be high on my "to do again" list such as Rio, Bangkok, Puerto Plata, or Guayaquil. Next time I will skip Caracas and go experience Margarita Island.
2. I never travel with cash. I always use the ATM when I arrive and use my card at most places.
3. I never made anyone pay for anything. All day I kept saying that I need to go to the ATM and she kept telling me that we would go later.
4. She didn't live in the middle of nowhere. It was just a long walk up the hill.
5. There isn't much info in the Caracas section. It's one of the barest on ISG. If you click on page 5 in this thread it will take you back to the middle of 2006. Whereas page 5 in other threads won't even get you as far back as last week.
6. Every country is not expensive with $20. As I explained to her, in Colombia with $50 I can take a taxi from the airport($7), get a good hotel for a night($25), eat a decent meal($4), and go out to party(with the $14 left over). And she agreed because she has family there and travels there a lot.
7. The gist of what I am saying is that Caracas does not come close to a city that one should be paying $200-$300 for a hotel (according to Routard's post) or $50 or $75 for a taxi. Hell, how much are those same brand hotels in the States? It is not like it's Paris, Tokyo, or London and in no way resembles either one. As I said it looks like a big ass ghetto. As a matter of fact what is the first picture I see when looking up Caracas on Lonely Planet? [url]http://www.lonelyplanet.com/worldguide/venezuela/caracas[/url]
There are much better places to go for chicks pro and/or non-pro.
8. Again I repeat to everyone in the Caracas thread, do not listen to me. I am only reporting on my personal experience. GO GET YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE and report back.

No doubt Mr. International is internationally cheap and unscrupulous...

Coming from a wealthy country with US$20 in hand and using ATM as excuses for not paying...man you are less than nothing...

How could you take advantage on that poor favela woman (whom surely spent a last penny to satisfy your greed) and then brag yourself in this forum...

Be decent...be a man Mr. Stingo Cheap.

Eros

Maybe something is getting lost in translation, for I MADE (caused, induced, or compelled) no one pay for anything. Did you read carefully that she said that is okay and that she had money? I did not say woman I came all the way here to Venezuela, I only have $20 to my name, so you MUST pay for this, that, or the other. It was not like that.

However that is the relationship I have with most women/people. They do not mind doing things or spending their own money. They are not all out looking for a man to spend money. They have their own shit and don't play the cry baby poor girl role that many mongers are used to seeing pros play.

How did I take advantage of anyone and what greed did I satisfy? I do not recall getting anything out of the deal. We took a damn taxi together. Took the bus together, sat at the beach together, ate snacks and drank water together. She spent $50 max. You guys make it out as if I swindled someone out of $10,000.

What did I brag about? I simply wrote a report. Take it for what it is.

Who said she was a POOR favela woman or that I came from a wealthy country and was rich? She works everyday just like me. As a matter of fact, I tried to call her yesterday, but her son said she was travelling. He was happy to hear from me and asked me when I would return.

This was not a mongering evolution, and even if it was I do not remember being elected as the person who was to make all mongers proud by throwing money all over the place. Neither am I a person that must spend money in order to get people to be around me or like me. When I have a friendship or relationship with someone it is not based on money. Neither I, nor they could care less how much money the other person has or spends. Money is not a cure-all and I do not need to use it in lieu of my personality and do not need to spend it in order to determine my self-worth.

Last year I have been in Caracas for two months . It was relatively easy to change dollar 1:5000.
I did it in restaurants, airport and through my friends. With such rate I paid
For taxi in the city from $3 to $6, local beer 60 cents, dinner $5, hotel $26, girls in studios $20-25,
Subway ticket 8 cents! Sometimes women insisted to pay for dinner. Women have money
in Venezuela and they want to spend money too. I don’t think that Enternational deserved such a bad
reviews. Certainly Enternational made mistake using ATM instead of cash but he is right that Caracas is not very easy city. I found a lot of others problems in Caracas too.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational]Maybe something is getting lost in translation, for I MADE (caused, induced, or compelled) no one pay for anything. Did you read carefully that she said that is okay and that she had money? I did not say woman I came all the way here to Venezuela, I only have $20 to my name, so you MUST pay for this, that, or the other. It was not like that.

However that is the relationship I have with most women/people. They do not mind doing things or spending their own money. They are not all out looking for a man to spend money. They have their own shit and don't play the cry baby poor girl role that many mongers are used to seeing pros play.

How did I take advantage of anyone and what greed did I satisfy? I do not recall getting anything out of the deal. We took a damn taxi together. Took the bus together, sat at the beach together, ate snacks and drank water together. She spent $50 max. You guys make it out as if I swindled someone out of $10,000.

What did I brag about? I simply wrote a report. Take it for what it is.

Who said she was a POOR favela woman or that I came from a wealthy country and was rich? She works everyday just like me. As a matter of fact, I tried to call her yesterday, but her son said she was travelling. He was happy to hear from me and asked me when I would return.

This was not a mongering evolution, and even if it was I do not remember being elected as the person who was to make all mongers proud by throwing money all over the place. Neither am I a person that must spend money in order to get people to be around me or like me. When I have a friendship or relationship with someone it is not based on money. Neither I, nor they could care less how much money the other person has or spends. Money is not a cure-all and I do not need to use it in lieu of my personality and do not need to spend it in order to determine my self-worth.[/QUOTE]

I hear ya amigo.

I could care less how much money you spent or if a chica paid for dinner. Big deal. None of my business.
Actually, I wish I could find one to buy me dinner .... just once!! hahaha.

I'm guessing that was your first visit to Caracas. A first vist anywhere is always a learning experience.

I just wanted to say that I've had some great times in Caracas.
It's definitely different than Colombia, has it's problems, but definitely has some great chicas and fun times to be had.

Probably not a great destination for an inexperienced guy or non-spanish speaker though.

Take care ....

I arrived at 3pm at my Hotel (Eurobuilding, 470. B$F by night) and began to work on my computer (Free Internet by wire). 2 hours later, I decided to look for activity. I browsed sexycaracas.com to find a nice girl, but, I realised that the firewall was filtering the sites I wanted to explore. So I looked for a proxy to bypass the filter and finally found [url]http://www.online-proxy.net[/url] that did the job.

I choose to call an agency as it is so difficult to call an independent girl.

At that game, Hadas del deceo was my choice as they had a beautiful very skinny girl. Unfortunately, she was not available when I called and had to wait for an hour as she had just left for another service. I asked who was there and I was tolled that Karen was available and that she was small and skinny.

I looked for her on sexycaracas and said ok send her.

She arrived 25 minutes later at my hotel. I had to go for her as the elevators only work with the door key. She is not that small or skinny but she looked ok to me. We went to the room and we had a shower when we start to explore each other. In no time, she had my dick in her hand and her second hand was fingering me. That was delicious! But I had to keep control for not coming immediately. After the shower, we went to the bed and I gave her my favourite DATY. She remained like that for a while and at a moment put me on my back, covered me and start to blow. I asked her if she couldn’t give me a BBBJ, but no, she would do everything covered.

Her oral technique is good, but, of course, it’s not as good when I’m covered. After that we start the intercourse but she has pain. We tried several positions but she still had pain. So I asked her if she wanted to stop and leave it there but she told me to keep on screwing (but not to hard).

After a few minutes she was dry and had no lub. I proposed her a body cream I had but she didn’t want that as it would hurt her even more.

She then took the condom out, and start a very good and strong HJ. I came after 5 minutes.

We then talk a little bit for the remaining time.

She wants to quit soon sucking dicks and establish a small business in a shop.

She has 3 kids and, of course, no one to help her.

I really can’t recommend her for mongering.

I have made one movie with Karen.

2008-01-25_Ccs-Karen'sCBJ2.avi
Size : 5,9Mo
Length : 0’36”
Quality : average due to some pixel at the beginning.

[url]http://www.steekr.com/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=7d397569&share=LNK1878479fe9ba3b8ea[/url]

Cheers

An Excellent Report. Top honors for providing the film clip. It really gave a vibe about her. Leaving the storm & strife for a business trip to Maracaibo. Will try to get some play in and report.

A fellow monger has been asking me for help on planning his sex tour to Venezuela and beyond. I sent the following to him via PM and then thought it might be of use to other members.

I have been doing some research. I would choose hotels like the Crillon, Tampa or Hotel Caracas Cumberland. These are about 40 dollars a night at teh open exchange rate.
[url]http://www.hotelcrillon.com.ve/ubicacion.htm[/url]
[url]http://www.hoteltampa.com.ve/[/url]
[url]http://www.hotelescumberland.com/[/url]

All are ideally located near Sabana Grande and Libertador, where you will find most of the wh0re houses, oops I mean spas and estudios.

If you want cheaper hotels, just about anything on Avenida de Las Acacias will suit your needs rooms are between 85,000 [url]http://www.hoteles.com.ve/hotel/Hotel_Cuatricentenario/440[/url] and 120,000 bolivars a night. Some only rent by the hour. I cannot vouch for their safety or cleanliness. Some even have girls operating out of them.

[url]http://gocemoslojuntos.com/venezuela/Hoteles.html[/url]

For finding bargain fucks I would recommend the following strategy. (Disclaimer: Because of work and other considerations I have not yet mongered in Venezuela, but this is how I would do it)

Get the names/phone numbers in advance of massage parlors (estudios) from the sexycaracas website. There are pictures, so you will have at least some idea of the general quality of the girls they hire.

Go to the newspaper. I've found Ultimas Noticias to be the best. Most fucks are 90-140,000 bolivars which covers oral, vaginal and two pops in an hour. There is usually a surcharge for anal.

Call the ads that mention spas, estudios or phone numbers NOT starting with 0412, 0414 or 0416 for day time fun. Most of these apartment brothels are located on or near Libertador, Sabana Grande or Francisco Miranda avenues. Pay attention, most of them close by 7PM. That is because Sabana Grande is a "No Go" zone at night.

After 6PM you can take a taxi or the metro to the Centro Comercial Sambil to hit on the non-pros or start calling the ads that start with 0412, 0414 or 0416 because those are girls or pimp agencies with mobile phone numbers. Note Centro Comercial San Ignacio turns into a big pick up joint after 11PM on Friday and Saturday nights.

I hope this helps.

Returned from Caracas about a week or so ago. I like the Sexy Caracas website, never had any kind of problem with phome numbers beginning with 0414, 0416 etc.day or nite. Just my input, begin calling Chicas on the site for about 6 yrs.

Please don't misunderstand my post. I was only suggesting that he call the land lines to the apartment brothels during the day when it is safe to walk the streets and to call the mobiles and have the chicas come by his room after 7 PM.