Berlin

[QUOTE=Ortos]BBBJ not on the menu here, but what about DFK? Is that also against the house rules?

Ortos[/QUOTE]
DFK is possible but depending on the ladies and depending on the meetings (some give DFK but not necessary to all clients).

She was fantastic. I was in Berlin 11/3-11/8 and went to Tiffany's. Trixy was beautiful, but I wanted greek. Angelina was lovely. Spent 40+ minutes and she was worth it. If you are in Berlin, you must pay a visit.

[QUOTE=Tompnis]Hi All

After a bit of advice

Seen this site for Thai massages

[url]http://www.thantawan.de/[/url]

Always had a bit of a leaning for Thai girls. Do these places offer extras or are they purely for massage.

Many thanks,

T[/QUOTE]

In my experience (not that extensive w/Thai massage place in Berlin) most offer a hand release as part of the standard service i.e. included in the price of massage-usually 50 euros/hr.

For other services you really have to just look at the establishment, location, where you found the ad, the look of the place, to estimate you chances of getting oral or full service. And sometime it indicates on the websit that more is available.

Thantawan can be found on the Rotlichtadressen website so I would say that there is a pretty good chance that more is available if you ask about extras.

AM

[QUOTE=Chucho]She was fantastic. I was in Berlin 11/3-11/8 and went to Tiffany's. Trixy was beautiful, but I wanted greek. Angelina was lovely. Spent 40+ minutes and she was worth it. If you are in Berlin, you must pay a visit.[/QUOTE]Chucho, I definitely agree! Tiffany is my solid #1 in Berlin and I'm always looking forward to visiting the place [I'm always spending time with Jenny; want no other].

I posed this question on the Zurich Board but haven't gotten a response, so thought I should try here.

Hoping for some advice as hobbying time and money are a bit scarce for me these days (writers strike and all). I am going on a business trip to Warsaw mid December. Probably not doing any P4P there both because it might be socially awkward and from what I've read Poland doesn't sound like my thing really. But I think I could squeeze in a 1 or 2 night layover on my way back and am torn between Zurich and Berlin.

I have never been to an FKK before, but stylewise they sound ideal to me, I like to linger and see and interact with the girls before choosing, nudity is great in my book and a half hour of actual sex is probably right if I'm going to rerpeat the experience. At the same time the girl is really important to me, I like a GFE type experience, BBBJ is mandatory, LFK or DFK is real nice, anal on the menu is nice too (although I rarely partake) but most importantly right now I'm trying to fulfill a young (18-21) European girl fantasy. I don't like to bargain or hassle, but prefer to pay my money and get what I expect. As I said I'm on a budget, but I'd rather pay more for a few quality experiences than have more less satisfying encounters. Airfare and Hotels are definitely cheaper going the Berlin route, but I have the impression from the Forum that the girls in Zurich may lean towards the younger and a little less hardened. Am I right?

I'm thinking in Zurich that Globe is the FKK of choice and I'd round that out with a trip or two to Photo-Point. In Berlin is sounds like Artemis FKK is the way to go with perhaps an outing to ritter11 (Tiffany). Yes.

BTW I speak a little German and would enjoy seeing either city. All advice greatly appreciated.

Errol

Hi,

I am going to be in Berlin between Sat 1/12 and Mon 3/12. Can someone recommend a budget but decent hotel please? Somewhere close to Artemis would be preferable.

Also, is [url]www.hp-2.de[/url] and Tiffany ([url]www.ritter11.de[/url]) in the city centre or within reach by S Bahn?

Lastly, please PM me if you are going to be in Berlin this weekend!

[QUOTE=Errol Flynn]Hoping for some advice as hobbying time and money are a bit scarce for me these days (writers strike and all). I am going on a business trip to Warsaw mid December. Probably not doing any P4P there both because it might be socially awkward and from what I've read Poland doesn't sound like my thing really. But I think I could squeeze in a 1 or 2 night layover on my way back and am torn between Zurich and Berlin.

Errol[/QUOTE]
.. Berlin would win over Zuerich particularly if you are on a budget.

The Swiss are pretty wound up like their clocks are and Berlin has [i]Berliner Luft[/i] and [i]Berliner Schnauze[/i].

Berlin is a place you'd leave a [i]Koffer[/i] behind at. Zuerich not.

And if you aren't in Berlin for this activity there are a ton of other things to do there. The [i]kulturelle Angebot[/i] can't be beat.

It isn't even a close comparison.

This activity is available in Zuerich but the pricing is way higher than anything you would have to pay in Deutschland. And as to the women in Zuerich being younger and less hardened, I think you'll do just as well elsewhere.

Younger, by the way, doesn't mean better. Most women mature in this profession at say 22. If you've ever been with an 18 year old, you'll know what I mean. They have no clue.

If I were going to Warsaw I would take advantage and look into the scene there. The best and most consistent performers I've met in Germany are Polish. You'd already be at the source.

Jackyo-

Thanks for your good advice. I've read a number of your reports and they are excellent. I understand your point about young girls, and certainely 22 year olds can be delectable, it's just a fantasy I want to fulfill that at least one experience this trip be (or at least appear to be) in that very young category and that's where the web sites for Photo Point [url]http://www.photo-point. Ch/gallery/index.php? Cat=2[/url] and Melodys [url]http://www.melodys.ch/girls.php[/url] seem very appetizing. Perhaps these girls exist in Berlin too but as it is an ocean compared to a pond I haven't seen them.

By wound up I suppose you mean the encounters are more mechanical and timed?

Thanks again.

I speak a little German but funny they never taught us sex terms! I did a version of this for Switzerland on the Zurich board, but the Berlin scene seems to use slightly different expressions (and the subtelties can matter!).

If I'm wrong about anything please correct me and if you can help me out with the ones I'm unsure of that would be great. Otherwise maybe this will be helpful to a few. Perhaps this exists in the forum but I didn't find it.

THE BASICS
Geschlechtsverkehr or verkehr (GV) =Classic sex
Analverkehr =Anal sex
GV in allen Stellungen =Sex in all positions
Franzosisich vorspiel= French Foreplay (BJ)
Franzosisich vorspiel ohne =(BBBJ)
Zungenspiele= tongue play (DFK)
Gegenseitig =mutual
Französisch Gegenseitige =69
Körperbesamung = Cum on body
Körpermassage =Body massage
spiele= play
kussen= kiss
stöhne =moan

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THESE
Vielseitiger Stellungswechsel
Zartsklavia
Zartdevote
Is CIM Mundebesamung?

Thanks.

[QUOTE=Errol Flynn]By wound up I suppose you mean the encounters are more mechanical and timed?[/QUOTE]
... have a reputation for being a little more uptight and more conservative than the Germans.

Its said often that Switzerland is about a decade behind attitude-wise.

[QUOTE=Amt299]Hi,

I am going to be in Berlin between Sat 1/12 and Mon 3/12. Can someone recommend a budget but decent hotel please? Somewhere close to Artemis would be preferable.

Also, is [url]www.hp-2.de[/url] and Tiffany ([url]www.ritter11.de[/url]) in the city centre or within reach by S Bahn?

Lastly, please PM me if you are going to be in Berlin this weekend![/QUOTE]Amt299: Here are two places where I'm staying at

Fjord: [url]http://www.lindemannhotels.de/fjordhotel/[/url] - [U2, Mendelssohn-Bartholdy Park; in the vicinity of Potsdamer Platz] this is the preferred choice. Normally you get a room for 90-100 per night (incl. breakfast). The price/quality ratio is very high. Even though it is rated with 3 stars only, there is no difference to Mercure or other 4-star place alike. I've checked the availability, though - it doesn't seem that they have free rooms on the 1st; so, maybe for future.

Once Fjord is out of reach my second choice is Aquino: [url]http://www.hotel-aquino.de/[/url] [U6, Oranienburgerstr.]

This is a "concentrated" decency, if you will, as it belongs to a conference center of Catholic Academy (but you won't be waken up by chiming bells, don't worry). Very nice and acurate place. Good three stars; qualitywise, one of the best budget places I've evr seen. I guess they operate on the margin because of non-profit orientation from the very beginning [although, who knows].

Currently rooms are available at 67 EUR per night (including breakfast).

If you try booking through hotel.de, both hotels might be even cheaper, as they do have promotional rates.

Never been to HP2, but Tiffany is very easy to reach, as it is just a five minutes walk from either Prinzenstrasse (U1) or Moritzstrasse (U8). It is not in the city center but it is not far away from it.

Well, finally there must be a bunch of other equivalent hotels in Berlin. The above selection is based upon me screening 5 places in Berlin in total. But I guess I won't try any other one unless these two are booked out.

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[QUOTE=Errol Flynn]
I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THESE
Vielseitiger Stellungswechsel
Zartsklavia
Zartdevote
Is CIM Mundebesamung?

Thanks.[/QUOTE]Vielseitiger Stellungswechsel
= Multiple positions

Zartsklavia, Zartdevote
- Word-to-word translation wour be "tender slave" and "tender devotion". Both are SM terms used as an antonym to dominance; I'm just not sure about the correct english conterpart.

Is CIM Mundebesamung?
= Yes, but they wouldn't say it like this. They would rather say "Französich Total" (FT), which is BBBJ until completion.

By the way, GV means "covered", from what I understand. Almost sure about it, but still, correct me if I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=Every Walker]Is CIM Mundebesamung?
= Yes, but they wouldn't say it like this. They would rather say "Französich Total" (FT), which is BBBJ until completion.

By the way, GV means "covered", from what I understand. Almost sure about it, but still, correct me if I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]
[i]Besamung[/i] is roughly equivalent to unloading sperm onto/into.

So [i]Koerperbesamung[/i] would be then to ejaculate on her body as [i]Mundbesamung[/i] would be to ejaculate into her mouth.

I agree though that [i]Mundbesamung[/i] is not used and that FT is more the accepted term.

GV is simply [i]Geschlechtsverkehr[/i] or intercourse. There is no implication as to it being covered or uncovered.

I have a postcard somewhere here at home with deals with the pronounciation of the word [i]Verkehr[/i] in different German dialects: Bayerisch, Hessisch, usw... Very funny.

[QUOTE=Jackyo]GV is simply [i]Geschlechtsverkehr[/i] or intercourse. There is no implication as to it being covered or uncovered.[/QUOTE]For the reason unknown, I was always thinking the GV should be equivalent to something like "gummi-verschützt". Should be "geschützt", of course, as "ver-" does not make any sense here. But still that was my idea of the whole thing. Always good to learn.

Thanks

I will be in Berlin for two weeks at the begging of December. I would like to thank everyone for all the great reports and I look forward to adding to this forum after my trip. I was curious though if anyone had any recommendations on places to pick up some non pros?

Thanks