Thank you for not insulting me in your last response Villainy
[QUOTE=Villainy;2934939]Maybe so, but are they factual?[/QUOTE]No they are only your opinions.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2934939]That is your opinion and is simply not true. You can clothe your argument however you like, the constitution did indeed (and still does) allow the Court to hear state cases that have a federal nexus. It goes without saying that an election to determine the President of the United States indeed has a federal nexus. Another fact that you like to overlook is that 7 of the 9 justices agreed to hear the case.[/QUOTE]This assumes that that the Supreme Court of the United States of America is never wrong.
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2934170]Have you ever actually read the text of the Constitution of the United States of America?
[B]Article 1; Section. 4. of the Constitution of the United States of America says the following[/B]:
[I]The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof[/I]
The Supreme Court held no jurisdiction in this matter and as such should have declined to rule on the case of the 2000 election. It was a matter strictly for the Florida court system. The Supreme Court of the United States of America effectively decided who would be the next head of the the executive branch of government. The judges stole the election from the people of the United States of America. (opinion).[/QUOTE]There is no room for interpretation of this section.
[B]FUCK![/B] read your mother fucking constitution!
[B]Article II Section 1[/B]
[I]The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows: [b]Each state shall appoint[/b], in such manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a number of electors, equal to the whole number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or person holding an office of trust or profit under the United States, shall be appointed an elector.[/I]
There is no room in this document for the Supreme Court of the United States to make a ruling like they did. They did not have the right to make the decision. That is a fact. You have never pointed out where in the Constitution of the United States allows the Supreme Court to decide who the next President of the United States should be. Especially on a split decision. The mere fact that 7 of the 9 justices decided to hear the case means only that 2 knew and understood the role of the court in this pivotal moment in history. Congress should have impeached the 5 judges who were in the majority.
You want say my "opinions are uninformed and wrong". But your opinions are not based on what the Constitution of the United States says.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2934939]the constitution did indeed (and still does) allow the Court to hear state cases that have a federal nexus.[/QUOTE]Where does it say this? Make the logical argument using the text of the constitution or rulings of the court to support your "opinion". Otherwise it carries no more weigh than mine does.
[QUOTE=Villainy;2934939]I attended high-school in a small town, and did not attend a highly touted prepatory school. We were required to take two years of Civics and one of those classes was devoted exclusively to the Constitution. So yes, like most people my age, our secondary school education required taking a class (or 2 at my school) in Civics and the Constitution was a central topic of study. Oddly enough, in my university classes (both bachelor's and master's) no Civics classes were required.[/QUOTE]Even with this excellent public education (similar to mine) you still refuse to read the source document and make a decision for yourself if the Supreme Court was out of line or not.
The court has often recognized it's own errors. This not the forum for this but take a look at this decision: [B]Brown v. Board of Education[/B]. How can this happen if the court is never wrong?
How the President of the United Staes is elected
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2935472][B]Amendment Twelve[/B] to the Constitution was ratified on June 15,1804. It revises and outlines the procedure of how Presidents and Vice Presidents are elected, specifically so that they are elected together.
[I][b]The Electors shall meet in their respective states[/b], and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;[/I]
The 43 president of the United States of America was inappropriately granted the presidency by the United States Supreme Court. They should have stayed out of it. Instead they decided to to pick the next head of the branch of the executive for the United States Government.
[U]Separation of Powers Doctrine[/U]
[I]Over the course of our history, the Supreme Court has elaborated on the separation-of-powers doctrine in several cases addressing the three branches of government. At times, the Court has determined that one branchs actions have infringed upon the core functions of another.[/I]
[URL]https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/intro.7-2/ALDE_00000031/[/URL][/QUOTE]There is noting more core than the selection of the President of the United States of America. It is matter that is delegated exclusively to the States that make up the United Union. The States rights were usurped by the Supreme Court Ruling. The Supreme Court also violated the Separation of Powers Doctrine when they awarded the presidency to #43. The election was stolen from the American People.
[B]I believe at if the same situation would happen again the court would realize that is it legitimacy as a independent branch of the United Staes Government is a risk and they would fail to hear the case and stay in their lane.[/B]