Stupid shit in Medellin

[B]JustTK[/B] does not hate the United States of America. He just refuses to put on a short skirt and pick up pom poms to cheer for a nation whose hypocrisy runs deep. As the USA does not even protect the human rights of its own citizens within its borders.

Where someone is from has nothing to do with the points he is making about the USA. My my youth the USA was a great place and I could wait to get back home. Now I don't want to ever step foot in the USA again. Things changed there and not for the better.

Mother Fuckers who choose to live in other countries have no place to be critical of others if they are fans of the USA. The mere fact that you don't live where you were born tell everyone that USA is not [I]all that and a bag of chips[/I].

[QUOTE=Huacho;2937747]And how many of those 80 countries has the USA then proceeded to take over? None, of course, and most of those bases have been around for decades. ...you know they do benefit economically from those bases.[/QUOTE]Ofc, they have taken over many of those countries. All of the USA home states for a start, Guam, Samoa, Marshall Islands, Iraq, Syria. Many of them. And most of the others are there bcos they have taken over sectors of the economy and the bases maintain that situation. Or they are in corrupt relationships with some nation leaders that allow the USA to extract resources to the detriment of that country's people.

[QUOTE=Huacho;2937764]Its not patriotic to try to defend one's own nations' crimes.
Where are you from and we will evaluate your country the same as you keep shitting on ours.[/QUOTE]So we agree that its not patriotic. I already said that. It is nationalistic. Close the facsistic.

As I mentioned before, I don't have any nationalistic myopia about my own home country. I know its strengths and weaknesses. I don't feel obliged to ludicrously try to defend its crimes just bcos I am from there.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]I think that is bull puckey. They listed every confrontation possible including relocating indigenous groups to other areas, peace-keeping missions, responses to piracy etc. Perhaps in your infinite ignorance you can point out the other armed conflicts in which the US was a participant, since according to you, this list "hugely underestimates the situation".
[/QUOTE]I wrote "It does not include all the coups and other assistance USA has provided in wars for its own financial enrichment. ".

Here are 50+ more since WW2.
[URL]https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list[/URL]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]

Another demonstration of abject ignorance of US History. The majority of the US land mass was [B]purchased[/B] YES that is right! [B]purchased[/B] from other countries that held claim to the land.
[/QUOTE]Some land was purchased, correct. Purchased from others that had stolen the land. Buying stolen property is also a crime.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2937929]So we agree that its not patriotic. I already said that. It is nationalistic. Close the facsistic.

As I mentioned before, I don't have any nationalistic myopia about my own home country. I know its strengths and weaknesses. I don't feel obliged to ludicrously try to defend its crimes just bcos I am from there.[/QUOTE]I think you miss a point about US offers the best opportunity for most hard working skilled people to be successful. It's whether you are in or out. You will have completely different perspective. I have one classmate who talks like you. He is very smart, went to the best school and has a PhD degree and is very successful. I asked why he is still in US given all the things that you hate and you like another country better. He said he was planning. That was a few years ago. He is still in US currently. I hope this observation offers a different perspective.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2937940]I think you miss a point about US offers the best opportunity for most hard working skilled people to be successful[/QUOTE][B]Don't believe the hype![/B]

Personally, I do not agree. There are countries all over the world that have better opportunities depending upon the type of lifestyle you are looking for. I am from the United States of America. I fear for my life each and every minute I have to be there. The police are empowered to kill individuals who look like me on sight and without consequence.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2937940]I think you miss a point about US offers the best opportunity for most hard working skilled people to be successful[/QUOTE]Depends who you are!

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937829]I would call it Elvis bloviating once again. First of all the mortality rate for those who acquired the virus was over 1% It was even higher but after the vaccines were introduced and widely distributed the virus mutated and the overall fatality rate declined, ending up around 1% You are using 0. 2% because you understand statistics about as well as your ability to read which is at an effective rate of around 0. 2%.

The 10 Trillion dollar hole was primarily the result of Trump's tax give-away program where the wealthiest individuals and corporations garnered 98% of the benefits. I am not surprised you didn't know that. You would have needed to be able to read. And at that 0. 2% comprehension rate. Well the results speak for themselves.

BTW weren't you among the very first to race out and take the vaccine when it was available? What would you call that? The word is hypocrite!

Then you wrote all the posts after the fact, bragging that you were out there scoring up girls on the cheap in Mexico and in Colombia. Odd that you were among the only people they allowed to enter and leave the country during CoVid. For everybody else, entering and exiting the country was strictly prohibited but I guess not for you, Elvis. There is a word for those claims also, and it isn't "conservative".[/QUOTE]I am stupid, Trump is stupid, changing the subject. You are a typical Democratic douche. Trump and Biden both had massive giveaways. Vaccine NEVER reduced mortality. 0. 2% was the HIGHEST mortality for the virus. And of course, most importantly, you have not shown one conservative economic position at all. You are an economic fascist. Try defending yourself versus being in attack mode. You proved nothing to no one.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]Another demonstration of abject ignorance of US History. The majority of the US land mass was [B]purchased[/B] YES that is right! [B]purchased[/B] from other countries that held claim to the land.[/QUOTE][B]Factually incorrect[/B]

One can argue that the initial land that formed the United States of America was acquired through war.

Add the Mexican. American war (annexed Texas); The war over Florida; Oregon Treaty of 1846 (not a purchase);.

Treaty of Guadalupe (Mexico cedes 55% of its territory).

[URL]https://www.archives.gov/milestone-documents/treaty-of-guadalupe-hidalgo[/URL]#text=This%20 treaty%2 see%20 signed%20 on%20 February, Oklahoma%2 see%20 Kansas%2 see%20 and%20 Wyoming.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2937934]Some land was purchased, correct. Purchased from others that had stolen the land. Buying stolen property is also a crime.[/QUOTE]Actually very little of the land was purchased. The major of of the land the current United States of America sits on was claimed as the spoils of war.

This is a fact. Most individuals brought up in the United States of America learn this stuff as part of Civics and Geography in grade school. So, any individual who does not know this either was not raised in the United States of America or slept through a lot of classes.

This educational update was provide free charge for anyone who did not know, now you know!

[B]How you like me now?[/B]

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]

Let me help you again with your history. Cuba was never a US territory. The Philippines hasn't been a US territory since World War II. Some Pacific Islands are US territories mostly because after World War II they wanted the protection of the US.
[/QUOTE]Cuba was a USA protectorate and occupied by US forces.

"Philippines hasn't been a US territory since World War II. " So?

Guam, Samoa, Puerto Rico. Were all land grabs from the Spanish, who themselves stole them.

And how about all the others that you ignored? You attempt to refute a point by countering a small number of examples, as if that refutes my entire point. Its like I point out 10 issues, you refute 1 or 2 and so pretend the other 8 don't count.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]

Another silly comment from a weak-minded communist. If the US were [B]REALLY[/B] interested in a resource grab. We would have invaded and taken over Venezuela which has the largest proven oil reserves in the world.
[/QUOTE]Another ignorant and brainwashed statement. USA WAS engaged in a resource grab in Venezuela for decades. When Chavez came along and changed all that. USA went on economic warfare against Venezuela.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]

US Wars? So every conflict with Indian tribes, or relocation, or pissing contest was a [B]WAR[/B]?
[/QUOTE]Yes ofc! Just bcos the USA prefers to pick on weak nations and peoples that are often unable to defend themselves or have only sticks and bows and arrows (yet still win against the USA), doesn't mean that military action wasn't an act of warfare.

Its like you break in to my house with a machine gun and steal everything. I only have a pastic toy gun so I am unable to defend myself. You argue that bcos there was no fighting, no crime was committed. Great logic there. How convenient!

[QUOTE=Villainy;2937769]

Wrong again. Where do you come up with these things? The US primarily sold its goods and services within the US. It would be many years before there was a "global economy". Obviously in the aftermath of World War II there was a lot of construction and the US certainly produced a goodly amount of the materials that were needed for reconstructing the leveled cities of Europe.

Look I get it. For some reason you hate the US. You are blinded to all the good the US has done in the world. The philanthropic activities of US citizens and organizations have probably saved tens of millions of lives.[/QUOTE]You have been wrong or irrelevant about everything, so why stop at the end?

The USA was the major export nation to Europe after the war. One important commodity was wheat.

Japan was ruined after the war and needed major reconstruction at all levels, including from the nuclear bombs the USA used on its citizens, Israelesque! BUt you claimed it was a beneficiary under the Marshall plan when it wasnt. That was my point.

I don't hate USA. I hate the US Govt and the ruling establishment. *They have ruined billions of lives. *.

[QUOTE=Nounce;2937940]I think you miss a point about US offers the best opportunity for most hard working skilled people to be successful. [/QUOTE]I fear that even those doors are closing rapidly Nounce. With AI set to take over a huge swathe of jobs, the issue is whther the savings to business will be shared among the public in lower prices. But we all know the answer there. Price will stay the same, and everyone will end up with nothing and no job, apart from the shareholders who will take everything. I imagine this will lead to revolutions and world war.

[QUOTE=JustTK;2938017]You have been wrong or irrelevant about everything, so why stop at the end?

The USA was the major export nation to Europe after the war. One important commodity was wheat.

Japan was ruined after the war and needed major reconstruction at all levels, including from the nuclear bombs the USA used on its citizens, Israelesque! BUt you claimed it was a beneficiary under the Marshall plan when it wasnt. That was my point.

I don't hate USA. I hate the US Govt and the ruling establishment. *They have ruined billions of lives. *.[/QUOTE]Japan received enormous support and aid from the US. You are right that it wasn't part of the "Marshall Plan" but it was aid and support nonetheless. Which other country in world history won a major war and then helped rebuild the country that attacked it? I'll wait for your excuse.

And you were absolutely wrong about the amount of the Marshall Plan that was structured as loans. Almost all of the support was structured as grants and not as loans.

[URL]https://economics.stackexchange.com/questions/18337/was-the-aid-in-the-marshall-plan-a-loan[/URL]