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Hi all,

How about the Octoberfest? I want to go there last weeked, but seem like they change the venue. Anyone know where will be the venue for this incoming weeked?

Hey there,

I plan on going to Cebu next month and also to Thailand. I went to Pattaya last year with some friends and feel I'm familiar with it.
I'll probably be going over to Cebu myself, any advice on making it easiest on myself as far as getting from Thailand to Cebu, comfortable accomadations in cebu, etc. I'm flying from Las vegas,
what's the best way to do it, go to Thai first, return from Manilla?
Any advise is appreciated

Thanks

[b]Day 13[/b]

With a journey by car from Angeles city back down to Manila and the domestic airport however, although I was travelling on [b]Cebu Pacific[/b] I had made one fatal error because [b]PAL[/b] was offering a much better fare for the one hour journey down to Cebu [i] oooohhhh doh![/i]

Cebu is a place that I have known for many years, and is also my favourite destination in the Philippines because I have been coming here for around 17 years, I used to have a pen friend here and this is why I first came to the Philippines but I still keep in contact with her, the family even though she is now married and lives in the States; plus all the other friends I have made through the years.

I will confess that I don’t often get a chance to do much mongering because down here, once you get to know the families they will look after you. Chinese-Filippinos love to “match-make” and gamble and not necessarily in the order; every time I have ever been here I have been introduce to several girls, but unfortunately I like the good bad good girls. The last couple of times I have been here I once stayed at their home, ten years ago, because they would not hear of me staying in a hotel when I visited and then previously in 2001 when I was here for three days, I was working in Hong Kong, I stayed in the Park Place (now the Garwood Park Hotel), I had just picked up some girl and who should walk into the lobby but the parents of my friend and with some quick thinking I managed to send the girl quickly up to my room and settled for a coffee and catch up chat in the lobby.

Cebu City is small place, compared to Manila I am staying in the Marriott, primarily because of its central location, close by to Ayala Mall, the Waterfront Hotel and three banks with ATMs, plus the hotel’s internet access - but be warned its cheaper to pay the 3,300 Pesos (U$59/£33/€47) weekly charge than the daily rate if you are staying for more than three days.

Things have certainly changed here, mongering wise, back in Sept 2001 when I was here for a long-weekend I had this taxi driver who would go out and get me four girls to choose from for all-night at only 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) each, who were all university students, anyway I have been trying to track him down and I believe he has now retired. I went down to one of the [i]casa[/i] and they were quoting me crazy Manila prices at 3,500 Pesos (U$62/£35/€50) for overnight rate until noon the following day, when I said, that for the quality on offer I was not interested I was then quoted 2,000 Pesos (U$36/£20/€28) but this was still too high for what was available. There used to be two places in Cebu, at San Antonio, about five minutes drive from Osmaňa Circle, which you could find good girls from but according to one of the taxi drivers, I used to give me a quick guided tour they have now closed down due to constant police raids. These places used to have 30 odd girls in there, and if you had a problem with the girl you took her back they would just change her no questions asked. I recall one girl, who came to my room, in 1989 and thought she was just there to watch TV and actually just [b][i]sleep with me?[/i][/b] when I said I wanted a blow job she said she isn’t doing that so, back I went to change her and the second girl was as good as gold and did everything I asked for with no complaining whatsoever, not even asking her for a tip, but I gave her money for a taxi because she was going to take a jeepney back.

Anyway I arrived in Cebu by early evening and was being crafty here because I had e-mailed that I would be coming to Cebu but didn’t tell my friends exactly when arrive or where I would be staying. This gave me the chance to track down this taxi driver I used to use here and visit some old haunts that I was familiar with. Anyway I was out of luck, a couple of the taxi drivers had offered to show me around to where the action is, but I visit the [i]casa[/i], known locally as [color=blue][b]Gate 3[/b][/color] and asks to see some other [i]casas[/i] but nothing much strikes me there so I eventually end up going back into[color=blue] [b]Silver Dollar[/b][/color] where I had been earlier, on a Friday Night, where I was chatting to this girl Leana, who hails from Mindanoa with a couple of interesting tattoos on her body, who is OK for a quickie, so I bar fine her for 600 Pesos, (U$11/£6/€9) she was OK for the night, but I grabbed a few photos and she stayed for a few hours, with BBBJ but she wanted 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) tip claiming she didn’t work for less, Leana was debating whether to stay all night or go now but I suggested that for me it would be best if she left early but we settled for 700 Pesos(U$12/£7/€10) if she left now, as I wanted to get up and use the gym early. Sexually, she was OK but nothing exceptionally; this was my first night back in town she leaves in the early hours and I am surprised that here at the Mariott the girls have a free reign because no-one from the security calls me to check if its for her to leave; I know this is not Manila but it makes you feel a bit safer when you know the hotel is watching your back.

Juniour

Hello all,

I'm going to the Philippines for the first time in january and I want to do some activities besides mongering. Has anybody ever done the Sinulog fest.? Will accommodations be hard to come by? It seems that it could be a wild time to be in Cebu! If any of my fellow forum members are going to be there, lets meet for a drink or three!

Thanks in advance

[b]Day 14[/b]

On my first is morning in Cebu, I go down to breakfast and then on the next table comes this girl and her, which I believe to be her boy friend sits next to me; this was a girl who my friend introduced me too back in 2001, and I know the full [i]sp[/i] about this girl in December 2002 she sent me a Christmas card and in a paragraph said by the way can I give her $5,000 Dollar, not lend, but just send this money, I wouldn’t have minded so much if I’d have tapped her arse, because all we did was go to the beach at the Shangri-la, for the afternoon, where she told me she has stayed at this hotel several times with “friends” and I was thinking to myself I have some real old dog here.

Anyway not more than three months ago this same girl sent me an e-mail with her photos, of holding her boobs and asked me if I liked them. So after a few minutes she turns around and asks me if I remember her, I am thinking how can I forget you and then drops a bomb-shell this is my husband, I said congratulations, have you just got married? No, I have been married some time but still live here, I was confused because normally married women don’t send half naked photos to other guys asking if they like them and asking when am back in town.

The background which I know about this girl is she was 16 when she got pregnant by some local guy and had a daughter, then at 20 she married this wealthier old guy, and I mean old who was wheel chair bound, now he says to her I realise I am old and you are very young so I don’t mind if you want to have your fun as long as you look after me in the process. Fair enough but she took it to the extreme and then found this boyfriend, an American ex-pat who between them try to scam this old guy out of his money, anyway she treated her husband like shit and he passes away, his family appalled at his treatment by her withheld anything due to her, she got some chump change only a couple of hundred dollars only. As life would have it she gives this money to this boyfriend, along with some borrowed money from her family, which he “claims” he will use it to help buy a home for the two of them to live somewhere in the US. He then in-turn runs off with this money with another Philippino girl leaving her home and dry hence this was the reason she was writing to me asking for $5,000 claiming it belonged to her family, who wanted her to study in the US, and how disappointed she couldn’t go to the US, when really she was trying to get to the US to find her old boyfriend.


Now here she was with her second husband, sitting here at breakfast – all I can say to this guy is, good luck pal.

To be continued…..

Juniour

[color=blue][b]Malling:[/b][/color]

I have read a couple of posts from people who said they have either had success at [color=blue][i][b]Malling[/b][/i][/color] [font=courier]ie "walking around the malls looking to pick up girls."[/font] Or none at all.

OK please note a wealthy mall like Ayala is difficult because the wealthy Chinese-Filippinos who frequent these malls are unlikely to get excited at seeing some foreigner. In-fact even if they really liked the guy, its just not done to show too much expression culturally because that is the way it is.

I am not saying its impossible, just very difficult I was sitting in Bo’s Coffee Club and its appeared to be what looked like a transsexual was making eye contact, I ignored them then she or he came full out and said: “Hi how are doing?” As I was not sure what this was I made my excuses and left. However, a couple of times in the mall people have said hello, OK some of the girls were rough so I did not take up their offers, to chat and partly because I was too busy, but had they been prettier the story might have been different.

Now if you are still intent on [color=blue][i]malling[/i][/color] gentlemen please take my advice, and dress up for the occasion, wash yourselves and try to look the part of a jetsetter, even if you only pack the shopping at Wal Mart part-time. In my time here I have seen some guys spending hours in the mall, obviously looking to pick someone up, judging by the way they look at every girl that walks past, but I don’t understand what they are thinking in crumpled shorts and t-shirts, and my pet hate sandals & socks. In fact I don't recall a time when that look was ever happening. Just look around at the Philippino guys and do they dress like that? No, therefore why do you think you will be successful just because you are foreign? Take my advice make sure your clothes at least [size=+2][i]Co-or-din-nate[/i][/size]

I have tried SM Mall twice once walking around with my host family I believe that I should have more luck as I received plenty of eye contact. The second time was not as busy during the week but I believe there is more potential than Ayala Mall.

However, the best way to get introduced to nice females is just make friends. The family of my pen friend have been trying for years to fix me up, I believe this and gambling here are national past times. I mean I called them in the morning at 2pm to say I am now in town and within five hour one girl, who I don’t know, has come to my hotel to meet me and left a message, but I was out at the time having dinner with another friend and her husband, who got married last year. She has a single friend she wants to introduce me to. So I have four days here and four potentials, just from turning up.

OK in life the good side is that I don’t have to do any work only meet these girls, the down side is that when I am here I am constantly with people all wanting to show me around, here and there, so its sometimes difficult to go mongering.

At the weekend I went out with my friend’s family and they came to the hotel at 1pm, all six of them, we went to the SM mall where we had some light snacks then straight off to Mactan Island to a beach there and it was 9.40pm by the time I arrived back at the hotel.

Juniour

One photo of a typical malling scene.

[b]Day 16[/b]

The following day I am being introduced to two nice females and I am also trying to get some mongering in, which is difficult with two appointments on, so I have to put one off until the next day. The first woman I meet is a nice women but she is in her mid 30’s, no problem with that because so am I, but she was not really a looker, and she is intelligent enough but not really for me. This was the one who came to my hotel two days ago looking for me, when she heard I was in town. We all did lunch and she then tells me her cousin is getting married to a 57 year old from my country (UK) and this girl is just 22, I wanted to say maybe we should be doing a swap here and she should have the 57 year old. Out of politeness I agree to do dinner with the three women, but I am constantly looking at my watch because I want to do other things, things are complicated further still because in the lobby of the hotel is this woman’s cousin, who is working the shift this evening.

So by 9.45pm I finally manage to get away, because these three had come directly from work and I am free to do some roaming, alone. I head to the taxi stand and ask how much for a tour around town, this first taxi driver quotes me 300 Pesos (U$5/£3/€4) an hour and I ask him why so much and he claims that is the price I tell him in my last two days here I have got drivers for on 150 Pesos (U$3/£1.5/€2) and that was still being generous. In my third attempt a taxi driver agrees to take me around and I ask to go to the [i]Casas[/i] so the first place he takes me to is [color=blue][b]“Gate 3”[/b][/color] again, I am asked to wait outside a while because inside there are two Japanese customers, l imagine being quoted 4,000 Pesos.

When I finally enter I don’t really see any striking girls that make me think [i]she is hot[/i], rather general types only, so I pass on this place. I then ask this driver about other [i]casas[/i] as I reminisce about the good old days of Cebu. My taxi driver then after some careful thinking takes me to a place where he believes is a [i]casa[/i] we arrive near the centre and he checks with another driver close by, I walk in and the owner Shan tells me that most of his girls are students and basically they now operate by telephone rather than having them sitting around waiting for clients, however, there is one girl there if l am interested, she takes ten minutes to ready herself as we wait and then comes out, she was OK but nothing exceptional that made me think [i]oooooohhhhhh[/i]

[u]Shan is very very gay[/u] as we discuss the price of the girl he informs me that his lowest price is 3,500 Pesos (U$62/£35/€49) and goes up too 15,000 Pesos (U$266/£150/€210) I look at him and ask if he is joking? I said for that sort of money the girl would have to come with me for a month, "15,000 Pesos are you crazy." He says most of his customers are wealthy Taiwanese, Chinese and Japanese businessmen who are happy to pay this amount. I said I was looking to pay no more than 1,000 Pesos (U$18/£10/€14) for all night. He says if you are looking for cheap girls I have come to the wrong places because he only deals with [i]“quality girls”[/i] and [I]“starlet”[/i] as he calls them, Shan goes onto tell me he has several casas and others in the capital and has sent many girls to work in Manila. He goes on, yes you can find girls for 500 Pesos, or even 300 Pesos no problem in Cebu but they are the lowest of the low quality. We are still in discussions when this other girl appears in her night clothes or pyjamas I think. Shan informs me that this girl is also available. She is an attractive girl and quite striking also naturally we begin negotiations, he tells me she won’t work for less than 4,000 Pesos (U$71/£40/€56); anyway we negotiate for close on 30 minutes and he won’t budge on the price, then just as I say OK I am going he says usually they don’t deal with foreigners, (which means that Taiwanese, Hong Kong Chinese and Japanese are not seen as foreign here) and says that this girl likes you but he still won’t budge on the price, talking to the girl in [i]Tagalog[/i] repeating again, saying she likes you and if he was a woman he would want to sleep with me as well – [i]yes, I bet you would pal.[/i] I asked where the girl is to take another look at her and I am told she is changing already when I had not even agreed to pay the price yet. Anyway against better judgement, on my part, I decided to try this out but must go to a cash dispenser to get the cash.

Later on cash paid, girl dressed and in the taxi half way toward the hotel, this girl, Sharon (obviously not her real name) who is a university student here in Cebu announces that we have a problem because he cousin who she lodges with works in the hotel's room service shift. Added to this the cousin of the woman I had just been introduced to earlier, also has a cousin who she introduced me too, that evening, who was working in the lobby of the hotel (Cebu is a small place) so it’s a bit difficult for me. I then just park the taxi across the street walk into the lobby and tell the taxi driver to take the girl around the block then drop her off the front and all she has to do is come up to my floor. Fortunately, she doesn’t bump into her cousin and comes up to the room. Once inside the room she takes out her cell phone and asks if I have a charger, then she spends time with that and looking at my cell phone and suggest I shower first, I say ladies first, then she takes a great deal of interest in my computer and also my digital camera.

I later discover that she turned off the ring tone on my cell and was passing several loads over to her phone around 50-70 Pesos. I know its only a small amount of money but its the principle of theft that l don’t like. Later she also tried to delete the photos l had taken of her, but fortunately she didn't know how to use my camera. Eventually, once in bed she is now watching the clock, the meter is running, and says she must go at 1.30am I said to her I agreed for two hours and the way she was messing about with other things I doubt I would have got an hour in bed, she shakes her head and says OK she can stay until 2am but her class begins at 7am, she knew this when she agreed to come with me. In bed she is pretty much useless and basically sucks (unfortunately not in the literal sense), just going through the motions only, she only sucks dick with a condom, sometimes if it’s small as mine if too big for her mouth, I hear this all the time and can ride cowgirl style for all of about two minutes. I think her ideal typical customer would be one that comes within two minutes, because every time we tried something new after two minutes she was either sore or tired and wanted to change.

After a while I get quite bored of this girl and say to her OK you can go now and I swear this was the fastest I saw her move all evening, getting changed and out of the bathroom door in a flash. She asks for a tip and claims to have no money for a taxi, I said she already had a tip, standing there looking at me for about a minute then she says: “OK just give me 200 Pesos for the taxi then.” After I had just shelled out 4,000 Pesos and like I was even thinking about giving her any more on top, I said to her speak to her boss because she already has been paid more than enough and I was not giving her 2 Pesos let alone a 200 Pesos tip, with that she reluctantly walks out of the door.

Still a valuable lesson was learnt here because yes this girl was indeed very beautiful and photogenic but absolutely [i]shit[/i] in bed. I would suggest that if you guys are looking to get some beautiful girls to impress a client at a corporate event then yes go ahead and contact Shan to get these superstars but if you are looking for a hot girl in bed then I suggest you try elsewhere.

[color=blue][b][u]Warning[/u]:[/b] be weary of girls with your cell phone as I have learnt here they will either check your messages or in this case transfer over loads onto their cell phone, best to lock up your cells or keep them firmly in your pocket.[/color]

Here is a photo of her caught in the act, she was focusing so much on the telephone she was oblivious to the photo.

A contact for [color=blue][b]Shan:[/b] #918 441 4984,[/color] just pm if you want this girls’ cell no? [font=Tahoma][color=blue] [b]Please note:[/b] I have since been informed by [color=blue]Mookman[/color] that Shan is unreliable when it comes to sticking to his appointments, I suggest you read Mookman’s post.[/color][/font]

Juniour

Marriott is great deal and locale. Get internet rate from their website for $43 a night. Very guest friendly.

Semi-pros and large weekend crowds at Sunflower which is a large disco. Taxis know it. Lots of ex-pats here.

Another bar with a younger crowd is Halo at SM Mall. Packed on weekends. Lively with some real hotties. Local crowd for the most part.

Black Hole closed for renovations while I was there, but other bars across the street were fine. Hardly anyone shopping, but lots of product. 2000 pesos barfine. Lots of pricey KTV catering to Asian clients spread throughout town. Went to one (Steve's?). Nothing special as per talent.

Mactan Island and Lapu Lapu are a bit far from the Cebu bars.

Juniour, Shan is the manager for Monet, both are gay Chinese guys but Monet is always busy in the day time because the guy is so busy gambling money away.

That girl is as much a student as she is a super model. I've used Shan's services before, he is a total rip off, you will get better value at numerous other places.

Newbies stay away and don't pay the 4000p rip off price, you can use your money at better places.

Did he show you his picture book with the girls in them. His so called 16000 peso girl is not very attractive at all. Just because she has light skin doesn't mean she's attractive.

Mook

[b]MookMan,[/b]

Agreed, but I suggest you re-read my post to find out my opinions on Shan as I don’t recall referring to this girl as a “supermodel” merely photogenic. Yes, he showed me his photo book but to be honest I saw girls in AC equally as good for only 1,000 Pesos all night.

Would be grateful if you posted the addresses of these other places you referred too.

Juniour

[b]Day 17[/b]

On the following night I had agreed to meet up with another friend, who was taking me to dinner with her husband and another [i]single female friend[/i] she wanted me to meet, I had to extend my stay in Cebu by two days due to the fact that I had so many invitations of dinner and various other items at the University that its was not possible to do them all in the allocated time.

At this dinner, this girl I was introduced too was OK but just OK, really not me, she was one of these homely girls that does nothing, apart from work and go home. Fortunately, for me during the drinks I received a telephone call to attend this kids birthday party, as ten years ago I recall my friends younger sister was celebrating her 18 birthday party and now ten years on with five year old daughter, celebrating her birthday and she has five kids….? We all finished up and went over to [i] Family Choice [/i] one of these places that offers [i]”eat-all-you-want”[/i] for 120 Pesos (U$2/£1/€2).

I get over to this birthday party and fortunately for me I am introduced to this other attractive single lady, who is much more me, unfortunately, we only had twenty minutes to speak to one another before she had to leave but it was enough to get her cell number & e-mail address, [i](how l love this place)[/i].

As I had to be up early for my flight the following morning I was not staying up late, so I arranged for massage in my room, from some attractive girl I met in the elevator of the Mariott, earlier in the week, Hazel, she asked me if I ever needed a massage to contact her and gave me her card, the second time this has happened to me this year, because a similar thing happened in Bangkok riding an elevator with a girl who made all the conversation and gave me her business card, except the only difference here, was this card is hand written. Hazel is a bit of a strange one because I called her to ask the price and she informs me that she only communicates with clients through texts - no telephone calls because her family don’t know what she does for a living and I should text her one hour before I require the massage, which I time perfectly as I can use the excuse that I am leaving on an early morning flight at 7am to Manila, therefore I needed to leave to go back to my hotel by 10.00pm to pack, fortunately, my friends are working the following day, so they all need early nights as well.

Twenty minutes after the agreed time Hazel shows up, I said to her that if this is your business you should be more punctual - as time is money. The massage is OK running for a full hour and is a proper massage, I ask about the extras and she says she does a body-to-body massage but at 2,000 Pesos (U$36/£20/€28) extra, which I feel is expensive, but this is my last night here so I shell out for the service, she has a nice fit body which I like and she gives a BBBJ to begin with which is fine, if not a little short in my opinion. She offers full sex but to be honest no matter how l tried l could not get into it – l guess there is a limit on how my pleasure the body requires in a short space of time.

Contact details for Hazel and her friend Joan are as follows:
[indent][color=blue][b] Hazel:[/b] 0916 403 1005 & [b] Joan:[/b] 0918 657 9907[/color] [/indent][b]Note:[/b] [i]she doesn’t answer the phone and operates by texts only.[/i]


This now wraps up my time in the Cebu, having changed my [color=blue][b]Cebu Pacific[/b][/color] flight to extend my time down here, I am now on the 7am flight to Manila which means that I have to leave the hotel at around 5.30am and miss out on breakfast [i] doh![/i]. I was hoping to have a couple of days in Manila but having extended I am now only passing through on my way back home and unable to check out a couple of places that had been referred to me. For the record I have been introduced to five women, all of them university educated and in their late 20's but only one of them is really me, and I have agreed to keep in touch with her.

The other regular girl that I asked to meet me at the domestic airport never showed so I have written her off. I still had two more girls I had promised to meet up with in Manila but I simply don’t have the time I think I would have needed six weeks here to have met up with all the people I had been in contact with because these girls who are working do some long hours.

Juniour

Pals,

Just to follow the point on cellphones. DO lock up your cellphone when you are with a girl. I awoke early one morning in Cebu to fine the now infamous Maribelle Martinez of MEPZ,(Lear Automotive, Phils) standing nude by my nightstand with my cellphone in her hand. When asked what she was doing, her reply, "just looking at it". The Tramp had transferred ALL filipino phone numbers over to her cellphone and proceeded later to call and inform all females there that she was with me in Cebu. The same woman also stole my small camera which easily fit into her pocket.

My cellphone is NOT a "Load type" so she could not transfer over the load to her phone but this is one more trick many of these women will pull. Always lock up your cellphone, wallet, camera, expensive watch and jewelry before sleeping with ANY Filipina you are NOT married to. Martinez is not a pro but a semi-pro. She works full time at MEPZ but works the shopping malls on her days off picking up foreigners to fuck for money.

I realize I gave a strong recommendation for Exotica last December here. Bill has become a "Total Asshole", or perhaps I just realized this. I have had many guys PM me about bad experiences there. I have fucked many girls at Exotica and always had a good time. But I never took one out. I found one who was hot and eager and took her upstairs within 30 minutes of meeting her. I then spent from 1-2 hours fucking her and butt fucking them and getting some great blowjobs. Rhea, on one occasion fucked me, blew me and then I butt fucked her over a 2 hour session up there. I had a few free drinks up there and gave her P 500 tiip.

My suggestion is arrive early when the Club is slow. Choose a girl and buy her a ladies drink. Take her upstairs to VIP and "fuck her silly" and then go back downstairs and do some more drinking and seek a new lady. If one gets your eye, repeat Step 1 and bring her upstairs also. You should find this much better than taking the girl out of the Club. Spend no time whatsoever listening to BIll's bullshit. Early in the Night more women are available and far less likely to hassle you for drinks. Last time I was there (My Post Aug 04) I arrived at 01:00AM and got hassled to death by the women. Most of the hot ladies were gone for the night.

At Dimples the girls dance nude or topless after 11:00PM but barfines are outrageous. I go just for the Show.

Dragon SLayer

[QUOTE=Mattrick]Hello all,

I'm going to the Philippines for the first time in january and I want to do some activities besides mongering. Has anybody ever done the Sinulog fest.? Will accommodations be hard to come by? It seems that it could be a wild time to be in Cebu! If any of my fellow forum members are going to be there, lets meet for a drink or three!

Thanks in advance[/QUOTE]I believe that during Sinulog most hotels are fully booked.

Maybe you have to book some time in advance.

juniour,

i wasn't refering to you calling them a supermodel but how shan calls them supermodels.

please, please remove his number from your post. all it encourages is for smucks to call him up and for him to rip more people off.

there's one pimp in cebu that i found in my trips there that had very pretty girls, my friend wanted a girl in a school uniform to come to our hotel. problem was she was 15, wtf? we're not ****s so that wasted 2 hours getting another girl. she sent over another girl and this girl was even more attractive, legit student, she goes to a flight attendant school in cebu, her school uniform was a flight attendant outfit, kinda funny looking. i'm going to go check out that flight attendant school next time.

like i said before though the most attractive girls in cebu that i've seen were at starbucks in ayala unfortunately they will not look twice at you. a lot of girl in nurses uniform that drive you crazy cause you can see their bra and panties through their white uniforms and you bet they know that. they carry $600 cell phones so i don't think anybody here has a chance. :)

mook

[b]Mookman,[/b]

Thanks, I will consider your idea but each to their own, I say. But what is your definition of a “rip-off”? Please share your experience of Shan with us?

What were you doing in Starbuck in Ayala when Bo’s Coffee Club offers better quality coffee at a cheaper price? I had a meal in the Shanghai restaurant in the mall,( sorry I can’t recall the exact name), which shares the building with University of Cebu, this had many striking girls in white uniforms if that’s your thing. I recall three of them that kept looking over but being with people meant l could not act on it – its always the way though.

$600 cell phones – I don’t think so, many of the cell phones sold there originate from China and they are certainly not paying that type of money for them; $600 = equates to 33,780 Pesos/£326/€468 that’s a lot of money.

Juniour