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In BKK town for a few days, and noticed the USD exchange rate is about 35.3-5 bahts. I was in BKK several months ago, and it was still 38. I calculate a typical Nana Plaza screw will cost a fortune now for you Americans.

2000 lady ST
600 pay bar
300 ST room
300 drinks
total 3200 or about 90 USD

or a typical sideline girl at Ratchada 2500-3500
which is 70-100 USD plus tip

With these prices now, BKK can be even more expensive in ladies than HK, Macau, or Singapore ect all these first world destinations, which really offer lots more variety and quality of ladies than Thailand as well as a more vibrant nightlife.

With the extreme high Thai bahts, for cheaper and quality hunting, it seems China has quickly become the leader of this industries in Asia. I made a few trips to Chengdu, Choqqin, Dalian, Chingdao, Zuhai ect in China this 2 years, I was also very impressed with the cost/quality performance in China. At the same times, Thailand is getting so bad in this cost/quality performance field. To me its becoming less and less attractive to come here for night fun.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]In BKK town for a few days, and noticed the USD exchange rate is about 35.3-5 bahts. I was in BKK several months ago, and it was still 38. I calculate a typical Nana Plaza screw will cost a fortune now for you Americans. ...
[/QUOTE]RCA Knight,

Yes, a fortune! A pirates treasure!

The SGD moved (nearly) parallel to the THB. That makes the Singapore girls cheaper, or not?

In Hongkong you pay in Wanchai approx. 2,000 HKG, for LT. That is for sure much less than THB 2,000.

The THB just moved a maximum of 13 % against the US$ this year. 13 % of THB 2,000.00 - that is really a lot, from the mongering POV!

When I will stay in New York next time I will try to eat a pizza from that difference.


Giotto

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]In BKK town for a few days, and noticed the USD exchange rate is about 35.3-5 bahts. I was in BKK several months ago, and it was still 38. I calculate a typical Nana Plaza screw will cost a fortune now for you Americans.

2000 lady ST
600 pay bar
300 ST room
300 drinks
total 3200 or about 90 USD

or a typical sideline girl at Ratchada 2500-3500
which is 70-100 USD plus tip

With these prices now, BKK can be even more expensive in ladies than HK, Macau, or Singapore ect all these first world destinations, which really offer lots more variety and quality of ladies than Thailand as well as a more vibrant nightlife.

With the extreme high Thai bahts, for cheaper and quality hunting, it seems China has quickly become the leader of this industries in Asia. I made a few trips to Chengdu, Choqqin, Dalian, Chingdao, Zuhai ect in China this 2 years, I was also very impressed with the cost/quality performance in China. At the same times, Thailand is getting so bad in this cost/quality performance field. To me its becoming less and less attractive to come here for night fun.[/QUOTE]Well its not the THB that have gone up its USD that is down so wherever you go you aren’t getting the bang for the buck that you got 2-3 years ago.

But yes the chance to get a good performance in bed from a Chinese girl is % much better (IMOP) than from a TG, but the fun factor in China if you don’t speak Chinese….well hmm fun?

But if you know some place in China where you can sit and have a beer in the middle of the day surrounded by hot and willing girls or a place where you can choose your girl for the evening like in Nana Plaza please let me know.

And the prices aren’t that much better than in LOS.

In a Sauna/massage i pay around 3000 THB , the ones sent to the hotel room 2000 THB ST and around 1000 THB ST in some other places. (if I convert RMB to THB) and this was 1 moth ago.

But its possible that I overpay, I don’t know.

Yo bro,

I reckon its not so much on the price.

It more of a personal preference.

I find Thai girls are more passionate on what they do.

Specially when they call you "Honey", "Darlin'"...etc haha

Thai girls are fun to be with.

But you are right on the bar fine, I think they should get rid of the bar fine system.

However at the end of the day, someone got to make a living out of it. Haaa

frankly, some don't really care if it is 90$, 60$ or 125$.
it is all about having a good time.

One could go to Chinatown and have a ST in the afternoon for 9$, (yes, that's nine), so it averages out to only 50 or 60 per girl.
or one could stay home and jack off to WR's pics!

I have talked to many TGs who fly to SIN for 2 weeks, and get 4,000 Bt ST.

I think some brothels in Cambodia charge 3$ or 5$.

I'll stick to BKK, pay whatever the hell I feel like, and have a good time!

[QUOTE=Giotto]RCA Knight,

Yes, a fortune! A pirates treasure!

The SGD moved (nearly) parallel to the THB. That makes the Singapore girls cheaper, or not?

In Hongkong you pay in Wanchai approx. 2,000 HKG, for LT. That is for sure much less than THB 2,000.

The THB just moved a maximum of 13 % against the US$ this year. 13 % of THB 2,000.00 - that is really a lot, from the mongering POV!

When I will stay in New York next time I will try to eat a pizza from that difference.
Giotto[/QUOTE]
G, you mean ONE SLICE of pizza.

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]...2000 lady ST...[/QUOTE]
This scares me coming from you as previously your info has been good, but 2,000 ST for a lady is way off, even for Nana, and even for the Rainbow bars which are amongst the highest.
ST can be had in Nana, from good looking, sexy girls for 1,000 with a bit of negotiation, although hit and miss depending on bar, girl, time etc. But the max for ST without any negotiation, is 1,500 Baht. These are prices i get quoted and pay, i am middle aged and overweight, so it ain't no hansom man thing, If they say 2,000 to me, i simply smile, and explain its actually a 1,000, but you're cute, so i'll give you 500 hundred more. 100% hit rate, and this only applies to Rainbow bars where 2,000 has even been quoted. Even Angelwitch quote 1,500.
Having said that it's a difference of 10-20 USD, so as 1ball said, most people don't care.

I have been to Thailand 6 times in the past 2 years, I am no spring chicken, no great bodied lad but the most I have paid is about 1500baht long time, I would say on average 1000baht, I was last in Los in March this year and am two weeks away from returning so look forward to seeing whats happening. I rarely bar fine (unless I see a 10/10) but talk to the girl and arrange to meet afterwards, buyh a little food some drink and most are so happy in the morning with the 1000baht, pay some attention to these ladies and most will respond.

About the 2000 baht ST, I was talking about the quality ones in Nana like these in the Rainbows. Each store has about 4-5 of them, and they are very firm on the ST price of 2000. Others will go for 1500 no problem. But with the cost of the girl rising compared to 5 years ago(about 5 yaers ago almost all were willing to go at 1000 ST in Nana or Soi Cow and many nice massage sideliners were still around 2000 bahts everywhere), I find the recent cost rise in these recent years do not match up with the quality, on the contrary, I definitely feel the quality in Thailand is slipping every year but the cost of ladies are rising every year, much more than the inflation itself.


About China scenes. Many people think its hard to find action without speaking Chinese, but I think its not true. I speak about 30 word now, I learned after I discovered China 2 yaers ago. There are actions all over in every single town of the country. And there is one big big plus, there is a huge freebie scene in China. There are always many ordinary girls who like to become your friends becasue you are foriegners. So I find both pay senee and free scene both very exciting in China.

The reason I brough up China is that it is directly competing with Thailand in this fireld. The Asian mongers have known China for many yeras, now the western mongers also have invaded China in recent years. In all the popular towns there are tons of western hunters that are shifting their focus from other destinations like Thailand, Brazil, to China.

The China girls atitude vary from heaven to hell, so it's true every session is hit or miss. But the quality and availability is much greater than Thailand. There are even 24 hours saunas or karaokes or lady houses in most towns. Also the discos and pubs are full of pros, amatures, and freebies, I had quite a few freelance stunners that cost less than a ST screw in Nana Plaza, and I had some really heavenly beauty stay with me for a few days and simply asked me to take her for a short trip. Also Had many ordinary nice company girls that would stay with me simply she wants some foriegn friends, never ask me for a penny.

So just to say there must be a reason why so many guys are making their ways to China recent years, I discovered it myself 2 years ago. I avoid Shanghai, Shenzen, Guangzou, Beijing areas, I love these northeastern towns in China like Dalian, Qingdao, Shenyang, Harbin, absolute beauty for less than 50 USD a night and most of them have good atitude, and tons of freebie students all over to be had. I think if Thailand as a whole don't slash their price systems in this field, they are losing the competitive edges to other countries. Now I feel a typical semi-cutie sideliner in Rachada would cost you over 3000 bahts to 4500 bahts for a 90 min session or a Nana semi-cutie will cost over 1500 plus 600 pay bar for just an hour, is getting rediculous expensive for the quality on the offer in Thailand.

[QUOTE=Member #2041]Got here yesterday, and the Thai Baht has been climbing like crazy against the dollar. Can't even get 36 Baht to the dollar anymore - this sucks! Last time I was here, I was getting 41. My $17 BJ is costing me 20 now![/QUOTE]


Its not the Thai baht but the US dollar that is dropping like a stone in water almost against all world's currencies.
News today on tourist travel to US will increase as oversea currency now makes the US a bargain destination for most.
Yes, like you, last year, I was getting over 41b to the US dollar.
PT

[QUOTE=RCA Knight]About the 2000 baht ST, I was talking about the quality ones in Nana like these in the Rainbows. Each store has about 4-5 of them, and they are very firm on the ST price of 2000. Others will go for 1500 no problem. But with the cost of the girl rising compared to 5 years ago(about 5 yaers ago almost all were willing to go at 1000 ST in Nana or Soi Cow and many nice massage sideliners were still around 2000 bahts everywhere), I find the recent cost rise in these recent years do not match up with the quality, on the contrary, I definitely feel the quality in Thailand is slipping every year but the cost of ladies are rising every year, much more than the inflation itself.


About China scenes. Many people think its hard to find action without speaking Chinese, but I think its not true. I speak about 30 word now, I learned after I discovered China 2 yaers ago. There are actions all over in every single town of the country. And there is one big big plus, there is a huge freebie scene in China. There are always many ordinary girls who like to become your friends becasue you are foriegners. So I find both pay senee and free scene both very exciting in China.

The reason I brough up China is that it is directly competing with Thailand in this fireld. The Asian mongers have known China for many yeras, now the western mongers also have invaded China in recent years. In all the popular towns there are tons of western hunters that are shifting their focus from other destinations like Thailand, Brazil, to China.



to RCA

I agree cost of monger is going up every year I think the cost is driving up by the japanese that go there and paid the high price , I am chinese from US with the dollar is getting weaker by the day thailand is not a bargin anymore.

I disagree on mongering is easy in china , I go to china 5 time a year for business and I go to bangkok every yr last 12 yr , bar and gogo is out in the open and is easy to find actions but in china if you are new in the area you need to do alot of searching .

I speak chinese the first time that I went to china even I have problem finding actions but for value and quality I think china is better if you know where to go .

fast eddie 48

Quote Fast Eddie<<I speak chinese the first time that I went to china even I have problem finding actions but for value and quality I think china is better if you know where to go.>>


Yes I agree China scene is not wide open right in front of your eyes like in Thailand. But a few monger over-run destinations like Shenzen, Zuhai, Dongguang, Shanghai ect are pretty close to it, even first timers can easily get lady anytimes. But the sex scene is still everywhere in every big and small town, it just takes some times to familarize. I learned my precious China lessons by paying some tuitions--overpaying and commissions ect from my earlier trips to northern China, but I am getting much smarter now. Yes, if you know the scenes and know what are the good cities to go and where to go, China now is a much much better deal than Thailand in cost, quality and variety, but may take a little more time to be a China-pro than to be a Thai-pro.

Can somebody help me? I did see something a month ago about new dialing (code) procedure from international to a thai mobile, something of an extra digit or something like that?

Btw, I have been dialing 011-661-xxxxxxx

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[QUOTE=RCA Knight]Quote Fast Eddie<<I speak chinese the first time that I went to china even I have problem finding actions but for value and quality I think china is better if you know where to go.>>


Yes I agree China scene is not wide open right in front of your eyes like in Thailand. But a few monger over-run destinations like Shenzen, Zuhai, Dongguang, Shanghai ect are pretty close to it, even first timers can easily get lady anytimes. But the sex scene is still everywhere in every big and small town, it just takes some times to familarize. I learned my precious China lessons by paying some tuitions--overpaying and commissions ect from my earlier trips to northern China, but I am getting much smarter now. Yes, if you know the scenes and know what are the good cities to go and where to go, China now is a much much better deal than Thailand in cost, quality and variety, but may take a little more time to be a China-pro than to be a Thai-pro.[/QUOTE]


to RCA

I was in china just last month there is a big crack down in shenzhen last week
as china enconomy is growing they have trying to clean up the sex industrial or try to keep at in control , but in thailand the goverment look the other way
but the cost of mongering is up 100% from 12 year ago .

I agree you really know where to go to get the best deal and I love chinese girl offer better girl friend experience but thai lady are better in bed.

fast eddie 48

Prior to landing for good in LOS, having family in Hong Kong I consistently visited Hong Kong year after year and the first time in Shenzen nearly 20 years ago it was like the wild wild west. Now it is a huge city looking to follow the steps of Singapore. The money ratio is 8-1 vs. 36 to 1 Baht. So the value still better in Thailand. As for P4P I still think of the times my cousins would take me to a small town just outside Shenzen, we would dine with the Governor, mayor and chief of police of the province eating dog, cat, snake and drinking snake blood lace with whiskey then head to my cousin secret condo and play strip poker and have an orgy with the girls. My cousin use to show porn video's to the girls to show them what was expected and we had the best time in China. I hope to make a visit next year to check things out again in Hong Kong and China before the O-games in 2008. I hate to see the prices after the games just like Korea. I will never be the same again after 2008.

LBM