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[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2256931]But Paris No 5 and sister Ngel are super nice (though about 20 Eur more). Websites connected, start here [URL]https://www.paris-no5.de/de/ambiente[/URL] and [URL]https://www.ngel-massagen.de/de/ambiente[/URL].[/QUOTE]This is such a super great tip! Thank you very much, I will try either one of them and see if they can match my all time favorite Kashima.

[QUOTE=Macmister;2259565]Hello,I like professional massages, with warm oil, ritualistic tantric techniques, new age music and all that, like the ones you get at places like Paris no. 5, Kashima and other high end parlours. I also like having sex with gorgeous girls (Royal is my favourite brothel). I would absolutely love to combine the two experiences. I don't understand why, in a place such as Berlin, someone isn't specialising in the sex / pro massage combo. There must be plenty of guys interested, willing to pay. The strange thing is that the combo seems really hard to get by in other places I've been looking for it too, like Barcelona. Any thoughts on why this is so? Is it because of legal regulations?[/QUOTE]You can find it but often individual girl see [URL]https://www.berlinintim.de/gastmodell-esther-44054.html?t=Lj00j[/URL].

There may be legal issues. Not sure (I think same laws apply both workers and place must register), possibly some finanz reporting issues. Piefke?

But in general, market actually is different for both. Some girls want money but not too much sexual contact. Same for men sometimes for various reasons -may prefer to just relax be passive, not feel like cheating on partner etc. So assumption there is "plenty of interest" not so clear. Is actually a lot of work for a girl to do both. So it is often more, even a lot more expensive.

But it can happen almost anywhere. Ninja witness or hear stories, especially Sensual Massage, Paris, East Berlin parlors e.g. Feelings. It depends on girl, mood, etc. Of course, euros can help change this. Difficult to plan ahead on telephone-must discuss in person. You can also call and ask Haus Mutti at normal bordello if someone does both-must be some girls at Royal, van Kampen, Liberty, Prestige etc who would. For a few Euros more.

I was in Berlin for three days and decided to check out the brothel scene there. Since coming to Europe is rare for me, I wasn't placing many budget constraints on myself. First visit was to Royal. That place is HARD to find, on the 2nd floor, very discreet. I got there by Uber. The only sign when you get up there is a little plaque on the door "Royal". And I knocked several times -- it took the madame FOREVER to come to the door! Nice lady, made me feel at home for sure. House fee is 80 -- IF you select a girl.

The premises are extremely nice, the rooms are huge, but the selection on a Monday night at 730 pm was limited (4 girls trotted out for your entertainment). Still, Olivia in her traditional lingerie definitely struck my fancy, a tall, elegant blonde with some pretty dangerous curves and some excellent English. I like them more petite, but Olivia was still too good to pass up. None of the other girls really interested me. On a base price of 100/ HR, We negotiated french kissing (30 extra) and pussy lick (30 extra). I could have driven a harder bargain, but I was too jet-lagged to care. I know Royal is on the expensive side. No need to haggle over prices.

And it was really special. Her french kissing was fucking incredible. Very nice skin and a pretty good GFE feeling with some nice conversation. She even juiced me up with some talk about was I available to be her boyfriend. It was pretty nice. Going down on her was real fun and she tasted fantastic. Not much limits on the touching- all the romantic moves, kissing the back of the neck drove me wild, I roamed all over her. It's too bad that unshaven girls with smaller breasts need not apply in Berlin, but Olivia was a pure delight just the same.

A couple nights later, I roamed around a little bit. Van Kampen has a big red sign outside, you can't miss it. They trotted out 8 girls for me. I was determined that if I wasn't totally sold on one of them, I would walk out. And I did. I made a mistake though, I should have gone for Eranie. She had a great body, it was just the nose ring that turned me off. I should have gone with her- regret!

Uber off to the next site. Royal again. This night, none of the girls appealed to me, and I didn't want to do Olivia again. So I said goodbye, feeling like a heel again!

Final site -- Prestige. Very poorly lit on the outside, smaller rooms, much lower prices, but a very nice madam. I went with Amelia, but boy was she uptight, and totally restrictive on touching. I hate it when girls come up with off-limits zones. This is totally unacceptable. She has a shapely body but her boobs are too big and it was clear she didn't like me. Extremely low score on the GFE.

As an aside, one thing you have to get used to in these places is you are ever, ever to leave your room without an escort to the outside, because you might bump into another male customer or another girl in motion, maybe even in the nude, a definite NO-NO. They really get a bit upset with you if you wander out of your room unannounced.

Next stop. Prague.

Guys,

Does any one have any experience with escort77. Berlin? Are they and the profiles of the girls they have on their website legit?

Escort77 is a legitimate agency. I never used them, but I read good things about them.

[QUOTE=NookyNinja;2259773] .... For a few Euros more.[/QUOTE]NookyNinja, you surely meant "For a fistful of Euros more", right? Although, 'fist' - that's a different cup of tea.

About money, law and reporting, I cannot tell. Maybe they want to escape the Sex-as-a-service / intercourse stigma. I am not sure if it works.

One of things I don't like about Kaufmich is how some girls don't provide OWO despite not having the safe sex symbol on their profiles. This was a problem even before the new prostitution law. Another thing I don't like is lack of English version.

[QUOTE=Piefke;2263107]NookyNinja, you surely meant "For a fistful of Euros more", right? [/QUOTE]Yes indeed. Good Clit Eastwoody referenz.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2263212]One of things I don't like about Kaufmich is how some girls don't provide OWO despite not having the safe sex symbol on their profiles. This was a problem even before the new prostitution law. Another thing I don't like is lack of English version.[/QUOTE]There isn't an English version because they are not catering to English speaking people. And that's a good thing. And of course, you can always ask the girls in advance what their limits and restrictions are (though its usually printed there quite plainly on their profile if A / O is not on the menu). Kaufmich is about screening for the right girl, in my limited experience and I love it. And remember, the girl is also screening you so when you show up at her place, its because you are welcome there.

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2263342]There isn't an English version because they are not catering to English speaking people. And that's a good thing. And of course, you can always ask the girls in advance what their limits and restrictions are (though its usually printed there quite plainly on their profile if A / O is not on the menu). Kaufmich is about screening for the right girl, in my limited experience and I love it. And remember, the girl is also screening you so when you show up at her place, its because you are welcome there.[/QUOTE]Fair enough. I think it's best website for independent escorts in DE and certainly is better than what we got in the USA.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2263659]Fair enough. I think it's best website for independent escorts in DE and certainly is better than what we got in the USA.[/QUOTE]Right, And while Germany is Anglophone friendly, that doesn't mean everyone in Germany is dying to engage English speakers or foreigners in general. I got a taste of that in Berlin. Its very multi-cultural, but I don't sense the natives welcome visitors the same way you would experience it in the South. I got a chill reception when I went in to a few Kneipes that catered to the locals. And when I went down to Astor when it was at the far end of Neukolln, the butch madame made it clear from the get-go they only spoke "Deutsch" there, but I persisted with "Ich kann Deutsch" and no surprise, the Spanish lady I pulled spoke very good English. None of this should dissuade anyone from visiting Berlin. All of the Kaufmich girls I engaged in person or in conversation were eager to hook up. But, Berlin is a bit full of itself and they don't feel they need to appeal to outsiders.

As for language, its a simple maxim that to get the best options from mongering, you need to speak the local language. That's where my background in German and living in Germany helped (though I can't really speak German anymore). Even in a place like Thailand, which caters to foreign mongers, there are options that are not readily available to the outsider. If you know Thai, and can actually read it, you can hook up with the "Sideline Girls" on the Thai social media. That's a whole different world of what seems to be a premier mongering experience, that you cannot access if you don't know the girls. And in an Anglophone friendly environment like Germany, you still will need to know some basic German and grasp some terminology as well as have an understanding of the culture to get everything possible out of it. FKKs clearly have a low barrier to entry for the foreigner (at least the white foreigner). That's why the Germany forum is dominated by FKK threads. While the brothels of Berlin alone will outnumber all the FKKs in Germany, Anglophones and Americans in particular gravitate to those places, because they don't require much insight, they just require cash. Learning basic Portuguese, getting a visa with your plane ticker and making your way around Brazil is mongering at a very different level (as I will find out next Spring).

[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;2263881]Right, And while Germany is Anglophone friendly, that doesn't mean everyone in Germany is dying to engage English speakers or foreigners in general. I got a taste of that in Berlin. Its very multi-cultural, but I don't sense the natives welcome visitors the same way you would experience it in the South. I got a chill reception when I went in to a few Kneipes that catered to the locals. And when I went down to Astor when it was at the far end of Neukolln, the butch madame made it clear from the get-go they only spoke "Deutsch" there, but I persisted with "Ich kann Deutsch" and no surprise, the Spanish lady I pulled spoke very good English. None of this should dissuade anyone from visiting Berlin. All of the Kaufmich girls I engaged in person or in conversation were eager to hook up. But, Berlin is a bit full of itself and they don't feel they need to appeal to outsiders.

As for language, its a simple maxim that to get the best options from mongering, you need to speak the local language. That's where my background in German and living in Germany helped (though I can't really speak German anymore). Even in a place like Thailand, which caters to foreign mongers, there are options that are not readily available to the outsider. If you know Thai, and can actually read it, you can hook up with the "Sideline Girls" on the Thai social media. That's a whole different world of what seems to be a premier mongering experience, that you cannot access if you don't know the girls. And in an Anglophone friendly environment like Germany, you still will need to know some basic German and grasp some terminology as well as have an understanding of the culture to get everything possible out of it. FKKs clearly have a low barrier to entry for the foreigner (at least the white foreigner)..[/QUOTE]Yeah, I agree with you that those who speak German has better access to the big sex scene. It's rather overwhelming as I mentioned a while back.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2264023]Yeah, I agree with you that those who speak German has better access to the big sex scene. It's rather overwhelming as I mentioned a while back.[/QUOTE]Romanian would help a lot in Germany too.

[QUOTE=BaltiX;2263212]One of things I don't like about Kaufmich is how some girls don't provide OWO despite not having the safe sex symbol on their profiles. This was a problem even before the new prostitution law. Another thing I don't like is lack of English version.[/QUOTE]It should not be a problem nowadays. You could just copy and paste the URL of many foreign languages to google translate and they will produce the translation to any language including english.

[URL]https://translate.google.com/[/URL]

You could also install an add on your browsers, so you do not need to copy and paste every time you want a tranlation.

[QUOTE=DietCoke;2264086]Romanian would help a lot in Germany too.[/QUOTE]I do not think knowledge of Romanians will help, let alone a lot. Anyway unless you are Romanians who on earth would want to learn Romanian. Indeed, Vast majority of prossies in Germany are Romanians, but most of them could speak at least a little English or German.

Also keep in mind in brothels some Romanians do not even want to meet Romanian men as they will see them as a potential thugs / light traffickers who are just interested in making profit out of them. In the UK many romanians prossies specifically mention they do not want see Romanians guy.