Stupid shit in Medellin

[QUOTE=Villainy;2939889] But I do give you credit for one thing SubCmdr. For years now I have had knock-down drag-out arguments with Elvis and Paulie. I don't think there is anything any of the three of us could agree on. Yet you and only you seem to have been able to pull the three of us onto the same side of an argument. Truly amazing![/QUOTE]Not really amazing. All of you wear Stars and Stripes short skirt and are pumping your red white and blue pom poms up and down. You three have united against me because of WHO I am not over the issues at hand.

Next, I am going to hear that the Civil War in the United States of America was fought over slavery. [B]LOL![/B].

[I]On June 11, 1963 Black students Vivian Malone and James Hood registered for classes at The University of Alabama despite then-Gov. George C. Wallaces unsuccessful attempt to block their enrollment.[/I]

[URL]https://www.ua.edu/about/history/desegregation/[/URL]#text=On%20 June%2011%2 see%201963%20 Black, attempt%20 to%20 block%20 their%20 enrollment.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939714]How Russia "feels" is irrelevant. They felt like violating the Budapest Memorandum that they agreed to by invading Ukraine and occupying land within their 1991 borders. They also felt like killing off all viable opponents to Putin. They feel like murdering Ukrainian civilians while hiding their bodies, and kidnapping their children and placing them in re-indoctrination camps. This is all done with the nuclear saber rattling that the USSR avoided, along with a fanciful historical narrative that denies Ukraine's right to exist. This all calls for a response.[/QUOTE]Sending billions overseas to fight a proxy war while cutting programs for me and my fellow low income Americans. Not down with it.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939714]We live in a world of alliances, such as NATO, of which many former Soviet block nations asked to join because they reject the dark world that is Russia. Ukraine, though not a member is an ally, while likewise there's concerns about stability in Europe, and even more so of setting precedents where tyrants can get whatever they want by rattling a nuclear saber.[/QUOTE]They need to pay their fair share in treasury and manpower. My fellow Americans should not be dying on behalf of those unwilling to fight for themselves. I will make an exception for those who cannot fight for themselves.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939714]And you ARE living life as a victim.[/QUOTE]Other than your personal opinion would you like to share with us how you came to this conclusion and why you think I am living my life as victim? Exactly, who victimized me?

I emancipated myself from wage slavery many years ago. I know that gives some individuals apoplectic fits to know that I am living just as well as many others because they believe that travel about the world is privilege reserved for themselves. But they need to just man up and deal with it.

[I]I, I, I yes I want to spread the news
That if it feels this good getting used
Oh you just keep on using me
Until you use me up
Until you use me up[/I] - Use Me, [B]Bill Withers[/B].

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939575]BTW what is a Passport Bro? Give me the Colombian government definition and your own, How do you and the Colombian government identify a traveler as such? [/QUOTE]I refer you to YouTube. Colombia knows them when they see them, which is all that matters to them. At least a few have been pulled out of the immigration line at MDE recently.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939575]Your serve![/QUOTE]I think I just hit an ace down the tee while you guessed out wide.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939887] Paulie97 But in your case you like the Vman want to look past the ratchet shit the government of the United States of America does and has done. Instead. You prefer to put on your short shirt and pick up your red, white and blue pom poms. You spend time up in here time pumping them up and down here like the head of a Thai Girl going down on my dick. Holla![/QUOTE]That's called a straw man argument, meaning that you exaggerate my position and attack not me, but your caricature. As far as world empires go, the US has been pretty benevolent, supporting market economies and protection for our allies. Our economic system, though imperfect, is the best of the bunch. Your economic determinism leads us in a communist, or at least a strongly socialist direction, if you are looking for solutions. Most though just want to complain.

I also reject revisionist history. Many historians today use history as a launching pad for their political agendas. These usually are on the far left. They have degrees but aren't doing their jobs. For example not all slaves owners practiced brutality while many spent generously on medical care. This is confirmed from primary sources. Native-American tribes at times exerted extreme violence toward settlers. The opposite to all of this also applies, but the truth is a balance, not that of a hack prof or YouTuber cherry picking and applying it toward their modern political goals.

I'll add that there's a lot of very pissed off Native-Americans who've been baptized in a one sided tale. But the ones enjoying Casino money usually aren't among them.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939958]Glad you found a place where life is good for you. I have too. [B]Respect![/B].[/QUOTE]Thanks. I love Florida with a passion, but the road rage and women situation can be daunting. Flights to Latin America of course are easy.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939919]BTW you aren't that sophisticated, as seen in your litany of quibbles here, but here's some enlightenment. The issue isn't memory, but arises when you get caught putting words in the mouths of others. The contradiction is with reality, as you disappeared when proofs of the authenticity of the several fake quotes you attributed to me were requested in my post to you on 3-16 this year. ISG search engine is your friend, but of course zilch, nada, thus no reply. I graciously accepted your silence as a retraction and moved on.

After an extended break with a long vacation I check in and nothing has changed. You were here the whole time, steadily insulting, name calling, and fighting to the end with about anyone who comes along. Here your own failed memory comes into play given all the "act like a gentleman" appeals you've made in the past while pining away about those who hang around attacking other members.

The Cmndr, JustTK, and surely the rest are getting a big kick out of your go to attacks as the self-appointed grammar and spelling policeman here. I actually felt a bit sorry for you, so added some new content as a bit of an assist, while I had a desire to deepen and broaden the discussion with some relevant historical content and current events. As you can see the conversation is taking off now while others have joined in. I'm glad that I helped facilitate a shift.[/QUOTE]Let me remind you Paulie. After one of our many arguments dragged on and on, I noted that if I was such an a $$, why did you keep wanting to get together for drinks. You swore you never did any such thing and I was a liar. Well that was a good gambit on your part. Because, as you suspected, I just kept eliminating your private messages. But low and behold, one of them I had overlooked and it was still in my mailbox. So I quoted it to you. You basically said it didn't exist. And I must be a liar because I didn't keep the 3 or 4 other messages you sent in order to prove it. I felt pretty bad. It seemed pretty clear that you are suffering from dementia or some other age related affliction and it wasn't really fair to keep piling on.

If you want to continue the fabrication that you never sent me private messages asking to get together for drinks, I still have the one I overlooked and didn't eliminate and I am more than willing to wager any amount that you can afford to pay.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939976]Sending billions overseas to fight a proxy war while cutting programs for me and my fellow low income Americans. Not down with it.[/QUOTE]Those who get up early and go to work even when they don't want to tend to fare well. All who visit Colombia with a jingle in their pockets are a testament. Of course not all can work. Tell me about the programs that have been cut, and make a correlation to the war.

It's not a proxy war. Putin has long been sore about the lose of the Soviet Empire and made his move. Ukraine is a democratic ally, while we are concerned about our NATO allies nearby and the stability of Europe. We also back down at nuclear saber rattling at our peril. That would set a precedent for any tyrant to play that card to get whatever they want. Risks of nuke attacks are very small anyway, as Russia is short on allies and China is dead set against nuclear escalation.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939976]That if it feels this good getting used
Oh you just keep on using me
Until you use me up
Until you use me up Use Me, Bill Withers.[/QUOTE]The master. The world isn't the same since he passed. This is my favorite.

[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfcTgnpo3vI[/URL]

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939959]Not really amazing. All of you wear Stars and Stripes short skirt and are pumping your red white and blue pom poms up and down. [B]You three have united against me because of WHO I am not over the issues at hand.[/B]..[/QUOTE]You might be right. Three personalities who cannot stand each other all got together and shared the expense to hire a private investigator to find out who and what you are so that we could attack any and everything that you say in a forum that virtually nobody reads.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2939923]Just as a point of curiosity, are you saying you didn't go to an East Coast Ivy? Like Paulie, that is what I would have guessed (assuming it were true in the first place).[/QUOTE]You are absolutely right. [B]I am a complete fraud[/B]. I did not goto one of the 8 Ivy League schools.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939986]I refer you to YouTube. Colombia knows them when they see them, which is all that matters to them. At least a few have been pulled out of the immigration line at MDE recently.

I think I just hit an ace down the tee while you guessed out wide.[/QUOTE]Not so fast my man!

[B]Passport Bros[/B]: [I]is the collective term for a movement among Western men who are increasingly pursuing mating and dating opportunities abroad. [/I].

[URL]https://youtu.be/xZmd5G0jFik?si=IGxG_bkVOJUwLp28[/URL]

Watch the video. Listen to the Doctor break it down for you.

[B]That ace you thought you hit. Just returned it cross for a clean winner! [/B] 0 - 15.

You cannot fuck with me Vman so stop trying!

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939989][b]the US has been pretty benevolent[/b][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939701][B]Would anyone like to talk about the history of how Hawaii became a state?[/B]
[I]Declares that the Congress: (1) on the 100th anniversary of the illegal overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii on January 17, 1893, acknowledges the historical significance of this event which resulted in the suppression of the inherent sovereignty of the Native Hawaiian people; (2) commends efforts of reconciliation initiated by Hawaii and the United Church of Christ with Native Hawaiians; (3) apologizes for the overthrow and the deprivation of the rights of Native Hawaiians to self-determination; (4) expresses its commitment to acknowledge the ramifications of the overthrow in order to provide a foundation for reconciliation between the United States and the Native Hawaiian people; and (5) urges the President to acknowledge the ramifications of the overthrow and to support reconciliation efforts.[/I]
[URL]https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/senate-joint-resolution/19[/URL]
[B]Facts are a terrible thing to waste![/B][/QUOTE][QUOTE=Paulie97;2939989] But the ones enjoying Casino money usually aren't among them.[/QUOTE]You cannot enjoy anything when you are dead.

Through the 1920s, an epidemic of killings and mysterious deaths terrorized the Osage Indians of northern Oklahoma. After their tribal land began gushing oil decades earlier, white fortune hunters descended on Osage territory in droves, looking for ways to take their property and tap their massive oil wealth.

[URL]https://www.history.com/news/osage-murders-reign-terror-husbands-guardians[/URL]

How about that for an injection of perspective into the discussion?

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939989]the US has been pretty benevolent[/QUOTE]United Fruit; USA trains death squads; war on drugs;.

[URL]https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-colombia-relations[/URL]

[B]Additional injection of perspective into the discussion[/B]

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2939986]I refer you to YouTube. Colombia knows them when they see them, which is all that matters to them. At least a few have been pulled out of the immigration line at MDE recently.

I think I just hit an ace down the tee while you guessed out wide.[/QUOTE]Here is article from one of your many girlfriends in Colombia about Passport Bros.

[I]So why are they all flocking to Colombia at the moment?
A few reasons.
Prostitution is legal. Most of these passport bros either hire prostitutes or try to wife them, and then they get eliminated.
Proximity to the US. Quick flights to Florida.
Women from the US suck, duh!
I must digress for a minute. Dating and falling in love with someone overseas is entirely appropriate; it happens.
However, when a specific person is searching for someone to be their slave, that is not okay.[/I]

[URL]https://vocal.media/confessions/passport-bros-expect-to-be-treated-better-in-colombia[/URL]

Check out the picture the author of the article uses. But on Tic Tok and YouTube the images of Passport Bros are totally different. Speaks to the biases in the media, posters in this thread and you personally [B]Paulie97[/B]. Be a man, tell me what a Passport Brother looks like. Better yet show me pictures or at least reports of the actions you report happing at MDE. Otherwise it is just more of your bullshit hearsay.

[U]What is a mother fucker?[/U]

I looked it up in the dictionary and there were three references: Elvis2000, Paulie97, Villainy. [B] It said a mother fucker is as a mother fucker does.[/B]. A group that otherwise hates each other but will unite against a common enemy that usually does not look like them. [B]LOL![/B].

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939701]Nothing goes over my head. But I am often amazed at your level of arrogance that you think that you can make declarations and that once you make them no others can comment.

White men are the original passport bros. They had ships and guns and arrived on the shores of others and said hands up mother fuckers. We need slaves and while we are here we want to fuck your girls and we will give you some of this rum. That passport is my birthright just like you pale face mother fuckers posting up in here.[/QUOTE]And yet my comment about Americans and black reparations went right over your head. Maybe you can ask Paulie what I meant seeing as how it did not go over his head like yours.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939701]It is precisely because I busted my ass and learned how to operate as a capitalist in a society that is clearly racist in the United States of America that I have anything at all. I refused to be a victim. I am not claiming to be victim you white hoodie wearing mother fucker (YHWMF).

Sending billions overseas to fight a proxy war while cutting programs for me and my fellow low income Americans. Not down with it.

We have tangled before Elvis and you have called me a socialist. I clapped back on your ass and you shut the fuck up about that shit. We can continue to tangle.[/QUOTE]I think you conflated winning with my deciding you were not worth my time in responding as all you cared about was yourself and not what you are saying. For example, you criticize others for ad hummin attacks and then engage in them. You claim not to be a victim while crying about getting less in the ways of handouts. And after getting handouts, you claim to be a self made man.

[QUOTE=SubCmdr;2939701]But you people, well ya got problems and issues. Because in the United States of America you not making enough babies that look like you. Pure demographics are going to change the nature of the United States of America. You and the [B]Vman[/B] running all over the world fucking prostitues is is not helping the cause.

I cannot speak for TK and neither can you. You can guess and make your bullshit suppositions but they are not facts. That is something you have a lot of problems understanding.[/QUOTE]TK and I were against what the USA government was doing with Covid. Paulie and V were more in alignment with it. IOW, I have agreed and debated with TK for years. Just like I tire with Democratic douche issues and Republicans are all bad, TK thinks USA bad all the time.

But again you think my being a white hoody mother fucker and worried about demographics are a reality? Again, you pull that out of your ass and claim to be speaking facts which makes me wonder if you even know what the word facts means.

For the record my grandfather was an artisan who ran a very profitable business until it was stolen from him from the Bolsheviks. My father's family left what would be the USSR and settled in the Middle East as refugees. My father came to the USA with a handful of bucks in his pocket and worked his tail off to be a success. On my mother's side, my grandparents were never wealthy and went through the Great Depression. As talented as they were, they set up roadblocks and put down the wealthy. I heard comments like rich people do not clean their houses and if you have a car like that, I guess you think you can park at where you want. My mother marrying my father was her rejecting those thoughts.

My father grew up with nothing and literally begged for food, and you have the nerve to call someone like him privileged while he is paying for all your lazy asses? And you were griping about not getting more of his money? And the reason you are calling him privileged is because of his skin color? That means YOU are the racist one.

If someone wanted to say that I had privilege with regards to the parents I had, the country I was born in, and the time I was born, I would not object. I did feel lucky and privileged about all those things but being white? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. You see I have heard the same bullshit about not making it from the blacks today that I heard from my mother's parents.

As for the future in the USA, I could give a fuck what race the USA ends up being. What I know is if the USA veers from being a meritocracy it will be in trouble.

And my generation was integrated. If you could not work with or serve people of other races, you were not going to go far.

FWIW, the rate of incarceration of black women and white men is equal. When you compare black men to white women, the rate of incarceration is 100:1. So if anyone should feel guilt about white privilege, and from what I have seen the white people who do, are the white women. But you are not getting anywhere pedaling this white privilege and history rewrite bullshit with me.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]And yet my comment about Americans and black reparations went right over your head. Maybe you can ask Paulie what I meant seeing as how it did not go over his head like yours.[/QUOTE]Not down with the YHWMF inside jokes. You are free to enlighten me in anyway you choose.

It has been a long time since I have been in the United States of America. They are giving repatriations to my fellow Americans who just happen to be black now? I remember something about 40 acres and a mule back in the day. If they want to do that I will take my 40 acres along Las Vegas Blvd and my mule by John Deere (Electric model). [B]ROTFLMAO![/B].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]I think you conflated winning with my deciding you were not worth my time in responding as all you cared about was yourself and not what you are saying. [/QUOTE]If I don't care about myself, who is going to? Have have number of people that are depending upon me for their well being. I have long since cared about what [I]you people[/I] think about me. You are barking up the wrong tree. [B]YOU LIE![/B] And you cannot back up anything you say.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]For example, you criticize others for ad hummin attacks and then engage in them. [/QUOTE]Below it the very first post where I became aware of your existence:

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2825778][b]And the problem with you Medellin morons is you inspire other morons, and here is one.[/b]
All hookers are hookers but all johns are different? I cannot make up something this fucking stupid.
Does this idiot get the concept of supply and demand or is he another socialist that he thinks that he deserves better service because of his virtue signaling?[/QUOTE]I had written a post that was not even directed at you. This was you comment about it. You then when on to continue to call me dumb and stupid many times. THAT is why when I deal with someone if they engage in ad hominem attacks I do also. Besides mine are funny and not ill intended.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]You claim not to be a victim while crying about getting less in the ways of handouts.[/QUOTE][B]I am not in the 1%[/B] The United States of America is a [B]Plutocracy[/B]. White man living in a trailer park has nothing in common with Trump. Yet for some reason thinks Trump is a man that will do something for him. I don't understand it. Because Trump will only do things for Trump and it has nothing to do with race.

Obama was a great president. But he did not do anything for me an American that was black other than turn the economy around and I made a lot of money in the stock market. Enough that I could fund my move to the Dominican Republic 12 years ago. But that money was made through good stock picks. No one helped me with that. No one busted their ass earned, did without saved and invested the capital other than me.

I live overseas Elvis. Full time. No amount of words you type out is going to change that. No one hands me money. I earn every single bit of it myself. Because I have people dependent on me and I hand out much more to others than I spend on myself. But that is on me and my life choice.

So, put your founding complaints in the refrigerator cause I don't want to hear them. You don't like how you representatives are running your government in the United States of America, contact them.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]And after getting handouts, you claim to be a self made man.[/QUOTE]The only handouts I have received have been from great men. I stand on their shoulders. The great men of my family to include my Father and my Uncles. Who taught me how to be a man, who gave me a work ethic. And by the way, there were some great men, white men, in the work place and neighbors who provided positive input and teaching in my life. I value people not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I would be happy to value you in the exact same way.

[QUOTE=Villainy;2939923]I would happily judge you by the content of your character as soon as you demonstrate you have some.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]TK and I were against what the USA government was doing with Covid. Paulie and V were more in alignment with it. IOW, I have agreed and debated with TK for years. Just like I tire with Democratic douche issues and Republicans are all bad, TK thinks USA bad all the time.[/QUOTE]This has nothing to do with me. You are barking up the wrong tree. I got no dog in the fight.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]But again you think my being a white hoody mother fucker and worried about demographics are a reality? Again, you pull that out of your ass and claim to be speaking facts which makes me wonder if you even know what the word facts means.[/QUOTE]I know the difference between speaking facts and opinions. In our exchanges very few facts are referenced.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]My father grew up with nothing and literally begged for food, and you have the nerve to call someone like him privileged while he is paying for all your lazy asses? [/QUOTE]Paying for my lazy ass. [B]ROTFLMAO[/B]. Please elaborate on that one, And while you are at it please show me where I mentioned your Father even once. I am not the type of man to disrespect the parents of another man.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]And you were griping about not getting more of his money? And the reason you are calling him privileged is because of his skin color? That means YOU are the racist one.[/QUOTE]In my opinion, it is impossible for a black man in the United States of America to be a racist. I've never owned a slave. Non of my ancestors owned slaves (that I know of).

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]If someone wanted to say that I had privilege with regards to the parents I had, the country I was born in, and the time I was born, I would not object. I did feel lucky and privileged about all those things but being white? That is the stupidest thing I ever heard. You see I have heard the same bullshit about not making it from the blacks today that I heard from my mother's parents.[/QUOTE]Was not in your position. So I cannot speak to your issues. But if you are tying to say the United States of America is not racist then tell that to my Father (RIP).

My Father who while in the US Navy, wanted to become a member of the UDT (precursors to the SEAL Teams). After enduring all the and-word can you even swim bullshit. The last test for meeting the qualification to attend the school was the obstacle course. They made him run it 7 times. On the eight time he was slower than the time he needed to qualify. They rejected him.

My Father shared that story with me in order to instill in me that I needed to be 10 times better than the white boys just to get the same thing that they got. Throughout my professional career this was true. But I finally was able to emancipate myself from being a wage slave. Now, I make a decision and code puts money into my account or it takes it away. No one knows who I am nor can they insert themselves into the system and take away what is mine. If I make a bad call I pay. I am the only one responsible for that the decision. Life would have been very different from me if equal reward would have been in play for equal results while I was a wage slave.

[QUOTE=Paulie97;2940002]Those who get up early and go to work even when they don't want to tend to fare well.[/QUOTE]I do not think that is true. The Heritage Foundation claims there is a cost of living crisis in the United States of America. I don't live there. No plans to live there in the future. So, I can only go by what I read and what my friends tell me. And the news I get is not very good. Just saying.

[URL]https://www.heritage.org/budget-and-spending/commentary/kamala-harris-you-cant-run-americas-cost-living-crisis-and-your[/URL]

Sorry, I cannot advocate wage slavery to anybody. My life would have been very different if I had of learned how make my money work for me instead of working for my money long time ago. The ironic thing is that I read the books. I knew of the concepts. I just couldn't get them to work in my youth. I'm sure it was me. There is no one else to blame. But wow, what a difference now that I have figured it out.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]As for the future in the USA, I could give a fuck what race the USA ends up being.[/QUOTE]I can respect that. I don't give a fuck about the USA either.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]What I know is if the USA veers from being a meritocracy it will be in trouble.[/QUOTE]You are out of luck there my friend. The United States of America was a [B]Plutocracy[/B] from the get.

Started by a bunch of rich white land owning males who got tired of paying tribute to a man across the ocean who right to rule was derived by the girl who push him out of her pussy.

I'm sure the meeting went something like this:

Hey that mother fucker over there want some more money. Nah, fuck that mother fucker. I'm over here, putting my slaves to work, making moves, stacking my flow and that mother fucker wants a bigger cut. Fuck that shit! What that mother fucker do to earn. He didn't buy these slaves. He does not get up every morning early and whip that ass so they produce. No, I am doing all of that mother fucking shit. Fuck him. Who's with me? Give me that mother fucking pen. I am signing that shit!

[I]And the Declaration of Independence was born[/I] And later the Republican party. [B]LOL![/B].

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2940061]And my generation was integrated. If you could not work with or serve people of other races, you were not going to go far.[/QUOTE]OK!