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[QUOTE=FakeNick;2402944]When will the clubs start getting quiet around Christmas and New Years?
I would assume the girls will start going home, however many may live in Bogota and need some money for the holidays too.
I would assume the Clubs would be closed Christmas and open somewhat on New Years?[/QUOTE]It will be slower for sure but there are so many many Venezuelan girls here that it should be better than the past.
Christmas and New Years will probably be dead.
[QUOTE=RyckII;2401093]For those interested in BBBJ there is a place in carrera 20 a no. 72-30 (small door next to a hardware store) that offers it in the price. I was surprised to read that in another forum mostly for locals and went and try it myself. 30 min 50 k COP BBBJ included and 1 h 80 k. The girl I tried is called Gabriela from Venezuela. White thin 19 y/o with perfect tits. She asked would you like me to suck you dick with or without condom? I was like what?? Really? Ok without and she just started it. She charges 20 k extra for CIM But I didn't do it.[/QUOTE]Very handy intel sir! Right down the street from where I plant to set up shop on my upcoming trip.
[QUOTE=Pokeris;2401145]I can confirm this place also. Girls do BBBJ here without extra charge they even state it on whatsapp if you text them. I been this place 2 times before. Last my trip at bagota 5 month ago I text them on whastapp and they send me the price list and even some girls photos without faces. I walk inside choose the girl and ask the price for 30 min and they told me its 50 k. I show them whatsapp message they send me what price is 40 k and they said ok. So real price is 40 k for 30 min..[/QUOTE]How did you get their number? Can you share? I've been overcharged quite a few times in those MPs.
Carrera 20 a # 72-30, small door next to a hardware store. 10+ Masajistas. Prices: Massage+sex 30 k 20 min. , 40 k 30 min. , 50 k 40 min. , 60 k 50 min. , 70 k hour, BBBJ extra 40 k, __k trio. Tel: 310 766 9128.
Hours: Monday till Saturday 9 am to 9 pm. [URL]https://co.mileroticos.com/masajes-eroticos/mamada-al-natural-con-venida-en-boca-x-40-mil-linda-venezolana-cel3219356330/8159740/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Kib123;2403434]How did you get their number? Can you share? I've been overcharged quite a few times in those MPs.[/QUOTE]
Hey guys,
For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?
Hey guys,
For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?
Gents,
Need a help from you. Will be in Bogota next weekend. I rather play safe and will not fo to Santa fee. I prefer kind of contact bars. Also massage (full service) would be an option. Something close to parque virrey / parque 93? Appreciate any kind of help. You can also pm me. I prefer paying a bit mor but have a good quality and safe place.
Thanks a lot gents and enjoy your game.
Raul11.
Has anyone had experience with a casa or other space where weed was accessible via the girl or otherwise? Will be in northern Chapinero, closer to Usaquen, it's a short trip (two nights) and my Spanish is weak so I'm crossing my fingers there's somewhere I can walk in and satisfy both desires.
AB.
I generally offer 200-300 mil plus a few drinks / dinner beforehand and usually works out well. I speak Spanish and really not chasing the 9's+ so if you want to go there you're probably at 500-1000 mil. Biggest pet peeve is always late. I make it clear that I like people on-time and meet me at the airport!
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]Hey guys,
For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]Hey guys,
For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow? E. g. What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance? Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date? What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?[/QUOTE]The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?
However, a basic guideline, at current exchange rates, $1 USD buys about $3 worth of goods and services in Colombia. I would start with whatever you pay in the US and divide by 3. Start below that number and work up to it.
It may help to know that minimum wage in Colombia is about 800 k COP monthly.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2404437]The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?
However, a basic guideline, at current exchange rates, $1 USD buys about $3 worth of goods and services in Colombia. I would start with whatever you pay in the US and divide by 3. Start below that number and work up to it.
It may help to know that minimum wage in Colombia is about 800 k COP monthly.[/QUOTE]Yup. And a very large portion of the populace makes that minimum wage with virtually no chance of ever exceeding it. Yes, the equivalent of $250 USD.
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]Hey guys,
For people with experience using seeking in Bogota / Colombia, are there any guidelines / tips you follow?[/QUOTE]In general, you will find that a lot of women in Bogota do use SA to ***** themselves out but IMO it was not as bad as the USA Still, I had some fun with the *****s masquerading as SBs.
Clues to the ***** types are how expensive they dress, if they want you to send them an Uber versus paying their own way to see you, how quickly they are interested in leaving once you meet them, whether they want a price prior to you seeing them.
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]What's an average vs high ppm or monthly allowance?[/QUOTE]
Outcall hookers go for the $80 to $100 range for the hour, and I paid that rate most of the time, but I got multiple hours. I went as high as $140 for two women who were the 9-10 types.
First two women I met in Colombia told me their wages. A bank teller made $300 a month, and a civil engineer made $600 per month. I would never go over $300 per month, and even that, I do not think that is a good idea. I think you really want to be trying to convert the SB into a GF type relationship and not give her any money outside of what a BF pays for a GF or you are wasting your time. The character, sexual performance, looks, and kindness of the women I met in Colombia in my experience far exceeds what I got in the USA.
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]Are girls usually OK with sex / ppm on the first date?[/QUOTE]
Yes, my time was limited and the women knew it. Only time I didn't have sex on the first date was by my choice, and I met eight SB prospects when I was there.
[QUOTE=DrunkenTrumpet;2404024]What does "luxury" mean to a girl here (e. G. In comparison to what an American would define luxury)?[/QUOTE]
The luxury brands are the same in Colombia as they are in the USA For the most part, but the prices are about the same as in the USA, so the women tend to be more appreciative if you take them shopping.
One woman who went by the name Luxuregirl took me to AndresDC, and it was great, but again, it was USA Prices for a fine meal. She always wanted to eat in restaurants in the zona rosa / Chaperino region. The hooker types always want you to go to the more high end places. The real SB / GF types will take you to their more moderately priced nice places.
As for hotels, hotwire has a deal on a 5 star going for $42 per night: [URL]https://www.hotwire.com/hotels/details/MzA0NTI1NzUyOTQ6MzA3Mjc0OTM1ODc3Nw--[/URL].
For the most part, I stayed in 4 star hotels and paid on average $40 a night, and I would consider them luxury by Colombian standards.
[QUOTE=JjBee62;2404437]The whole sugar daddy / baby thing seems silly to me. The only reasonable excuse, to me, if you're married and want to keep a side piece nearby and available for frequent hookups. If it's in another city, or on another continent, unless it's someplace you'll be visiting constantly, why bother?[/QUOTE]Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.
On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.
And I can't emphasize enough how much more normal the woman in Colombia I met were on SA than in the states. I am not saying that Colombian women are all good and American women are all bad. Probably the two best purely sexual encounters I had in Bogota were from the Santa Fe strip clubs, but they were the type of women I am used to here: bad habits, not terribly educated, and after I was done sexually, I was ready to leave.
Yes, I have had American women give me a massage after sex, and it is usually 15 minutes maybe 30 once or twice. When I took a SB type to San Andres, she actually put body lotion in our shopping cart and when I asked her what it was for, she said to give me a massage. Every night after sex, she would give me a massage for an hour. I would have to tell her to stop. The first South American woman I had was in Argentina, and her massage was like an hour long if not longer. To me, it symbolizes how much more South American women try to please their man.
I have met 3 potential SB types from South America that I have wanted as GFs, which is way more than I ever wanted in the USA The conversations with the South American women are more intelligent; their habits are not as bad, and their ambition is so much more.
Even with all the fighting you and I had, you were right on two points. You have to give them no allowance and try to be with them as much as possible. Maybe if you were back in the US sex gulag, you would know why some of us aren't looking for SB or GF types in the USA IMO it has been a waste of time hunting for them here.
At Elvis 2008 Thanks so much for the in depth reply.
I have some experience with SA in the USA and CDMX / Mexico, and comparatively speaking the SD thing is a bargain in Latin America.
At JjBee62.
I think it makes sense if you're looking for genuine fun / company outside (in addition of course) of sex.
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2404499]Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.
On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2404499]Jjbee, when is the last time you were in the USA? A top quality SB in the USA For me was going in the $300 to $400 per meet range, and it is probably higher in places other than where I live. So for $1200 in a month spent on sex, I can fly to Colombia and get it on with a SB type 8 X in a month plus airfare versus 3 x a month in the USA If you mix in fewer SB encounters and more Santa Fe hookers, the value is even greater. The big cost then is time not money.
On top of that, law enforcement in the USA Is nuts now. There are hooker stings all over and even Robert Kraft, the billionaire owner of the NE Patriots, got busted. I am sure he is paying millions for his defense.
And I can't emphasize enough how much more normal the woman in Colombia I met were on SA than in the states. I am not saying that Colombian women are all good and American women are all bad. Probably the two best purely sexual encounters I had in Bogota were from the Santa Fe strip clubs, but they were the type of women I am used to here: bad habits, not terribly educated, and after I was done sexually, I was ready to leave..[/QUOTE]I'm actually back in the US and am aware of the prices, at least per encounter. I've never had an interest in keeping a girl on retainer.
I agree that looking for options in Colombia, or other countries, makes more sense than looking in the US, especially if you're past 45 and looking for girls under 25. If you put in time and effort it's not difficult to find an educated, employed 20 something who'll happily be by your side whenever you're in country and ask for nothing, provided you give her a lifestyle upgrade each time you're in town. Or you can find a working girl, who enjoys her work, willing to spend her nights with you for $50 a night and an occasional cheap gift. The advantage of the second option is she'll likely be open to the idea of bringing along one of her friends if you want.
Unfortunately, there are also girls who will hit you up with an "urgencia, necesito plata" every week, and each instance she'll need more money.