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I was talking to a journalist friend of mine that was doing an article for , i think, sunstar. The 411 of the article is that there is a huge increase in the number of college students that are hooking up with older guys, mostly married, in part for the financial reward (at least gifts). i notice this myself. There are many girls that are looking for this arrangment-- more than what you would have seen in times past. The article talks about how many, many of these girls fall in love with the guys, so this is not all just business transactions.

There is a huge increase in this in Japan as well, although there it's with high school students and Japenese men (I don't know the age of consent there).

Honestly, my experience is that girls from the U. of Cebu are the best to hook with. They're not always from the very best families, and they need someone to show them a good time 'cause they have NO money. You don't need to be a spend-thrift if you are someone they really like. Just take them out to dance and to dance clubs and there life improves remarkably.

BTW, yes there are some real cuties at Starbucks. A few of them are definately smitten with me but I never asked them out. They seem very smart and have great English.

Go there a lot and if you're a "good catch" and they're comfortable I'd bet they'd go out with you no problem and then....

Wander Luster

I'll discuss shan in detail later.

I go to Starbucks because I like frapacinnos, I prefer their blended drinks over Bo's. Also the ice tea of the day when it's green tea is actually good there too.

Yeah, they are paying $500-$600 for cell phones there. It's a status symbol in the PI so a lot of people get crazy price cells. In the states it's your car, in the PI it's your cell.

For example, the Nokia 7610 sells for 24,100p around $500, there's even more expensive ones that these and you can't miss these when someone is holding them because the color screen is huge and blinds you. :) Me I just use my cheapo Nokida 3120 that I picked up cheap at Greenhills mall for $60. The girls hanging out at Starbucks are spending that kind of money thus will not give a second look at a foriegner because they know why you are there. I tried chatting up some girls there with my friend but it would of been long hard work and we weren't in the mood for long courtship with wining and dining.

Mook

i apologize for mentioning that the pimp i called brought over a 15 year old girl. apparently all the ****s are pm'ing me asking for her number. forget it freaks, i would never encourage that kind of shit, so don't expect a response. thanks

mook

[color=blue][b]Mookman[/b][/color]

Yes, it’s not just in the PI that a cell phone is a status symbol, it's happening in many other countries but without this becoming a cell phone appreciation web site, because there is already enough written about cells on this site; but my friends there are Filippino-Chinese and are proud of this fact, they go to Hong Kong or Singapore once a year for shopping trips, and sometimes to Europe. This same girl was in London last year where I showed her around just before her wedding last year, on a wedding shopping trip. But I can assure you that are not spending this type of money ($600) on cell phones; she owns a Nokia 7650, whereas I only own a 2100, because cell phones are not as expensive as in the US or Europe. Two days ago one of the girls I met in AC sent me an e-mail to say she had has cell stolen for the second time in three months and she only owned a very old Nokia. [list][*]You said that you had no luck with the girls in Starbucks in Ayala; are you sure they were local Philippinos or not [i] Ann La’s ?[/i] (I believe is the term for them) because many of these girls from wealthy Chinese-Filippino families and are professional working in one of many multi-nationals surrounding the area. The only time you stand a chance with these girls is when they are living overseas studying where they always seem hook up with the [i]dorkish[/i] of guys in my opinion.

[*]On Shan, you refer to him being a [color=blue]“rip-off”[/color]; however, if the man quotes you a price at the beginning of transaction and that is the price you pay when you leave, then this is not a rip-off - it’s called [color=blue]"Business"[/color]. You may not like the price because it’s more expensive than elsewhere, but you were certainly not ripped-off.

A [color=blue]“rip-off” [/color]is where you are initially quoted say 600 Pesos but then find yourself presented with a bill of 4,000 Pesos. Like in the bad old days Bangkok, before it was largely cleaned up, me and an Australian friend were in a bar in Pat Pong II and went into some bar that was empty of customers had one quick drink and were presented with this large bill that included money for the show, one girl dancing on a poorly lit stage, and lady’s drink for a girl that came and spoke to us even though she didn’t actually drink anything and we were in there for less than ten minutes. We just paid for the drinks only and walked out on this guy who fancied himself as a gangster in this bar wearing a typical white suit.[/list]But do let me know what addition information you have on Shan.

[color=blue][b]Wander Luster[/b][/color]

“Younger girls with older guys”, this has been going on in Japan for nearly 30 years, if not longer, as there have been a number of books written on the subject, unfortunately many of them are not translated into English. An old Japanese girl friend of mine said it was because younger girls preferred the stability (financial & other) of an older guy rather than a youngster (someone their own age) who would be playing around chasing other girls. But generally throughout Asia this is quite a common practice especially with the Chinese in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. (The age of consent in Japan is officially 13 nationwide but 16-18 in most prefectures)

However, in many discussions on this particular subject over dinner with my friends in Cebu this is not really seen as an issue, especially, if the guy pays for her college or university fees then this is seen as a positive thing. But the trouble is they always want to introduce me to “experienced women” because they still cannot understand how an older man could be satisfied by a younger, inexperienced to life, girl.

[color=blue][b]Juniour[/b][/color]

Filipinos are really into status symbols, and cell phones are just one such symbol. The first question out of any Filipino's mouth, when he/she sees that you have something new is: "How much did it cost.?" And, they notice every new accessory, article of clothing or piece of jewelry that you wear. If I walk into my office wearing a new designer shirt for example, I will be stopped by everyone I see and will be asked the "cost" question by each of them. And they never, ever fail to notice something new. I returned in July, for example from the US, where I had bought several new shirts. I was asked the question the first time that I wore each of the shirts. Nothing escapes them.

Even when I get a haircut, which does not represent a major event in my life, I will be asked where I got it, and the response is invariably: "Oh, that's a very expensive place." It seems to me that Filipinos, aside from perhaps the very rich, simply have to know the monetary value of everything, be it gifts you may give them, clothes you may be wearing or your cell phone.

Perhaps this is not so different from the US or Western Europe, but Filipinos are not subtle about their interest and do not consider such questions at all impolite.

GE

I have to agree with Goodenough and a few of the others, status symbols are important to Filipinos and especially the Ladies, they are very concious of what the other has, how she got it, how much it cost etc etc., the best way to describe this is "keeping up with the Joneses" if Evie's Foreigner boyfriend/husband went out and bought her the newest cell phone that takes a picture and jerks you off at the same time, then she's gotta have one, the more gimmicky glitzy the better. If you dont have one of those phones that takes a picture then you have not arrived.

(Incidently gentlemen TAKE NOTE***** the other day when I was tour guiding for one of the brethern on this board and showed him a local "bath house" called the roman plaza in Davao, they had big signs posted forbiding cell phones that take a picture, so it looks as if there might be a crack down by establishments on taking pictures of their ladies thus)

The Diamond ring I bought Mrs Spamhog from the Us had to be immediately appraised in some local hock shop despite the fact I showed her certification/authentication from a diamond merchant I used to work for and the receipt showing the amount I paid, buy 'em gold or jewelry and they will spend P200 to have it appraised, to us its some what of an insult but to them its a reaffirmation of value, unless another Filipino tells them something they dont want to beleive it, go figure, I could give you guys hundreds of examples but you get the picture.

If you want to do well with the ladies here, that is going out on "the Hunt" you want to dress decently, wear a nice watch or even a gold chain or something, dress shoes and slacks with a collared shirt, look the part of success and prosperity and you'll have more interest than if you go to the mall in your grateful dead T shirt and bemuda shorts.

Spamhog

About the cell phones, they are spending that kind of money, now I'm not saying all of them are doing this but there's a good amount of them that do buy the $500-$600 cell phones, I don't think all of them go on trips to HK to bring back a cell phone. Just walk into a smart or globe store, [url]www.smart.com.ph[/url] there are a couple of models that go for that much. Even when you go to Green Hills Mall which is known as the cheapest place to buy a cell in Manila, they still are very close to that price. I'm sure that they are buying those cell phones up, maybe some of the people you know are smart enough to shop around or buy else where but you give some people too much credit into thinking they are bargain shoppers.

I call Shan a ripoff cause time is money and this guy wastes time. Besides being overpriced. Basically, I asked for a girl and waited in Robinson's at the Bo's Coffee, he show up and says the girl he called is coming, we wait for a hour and no show, he calls another girl and no show, wasted a lot of my time. His call system can be unreliable since the girls are not there.

Also, I'm Asian, I can tell the difference between different Asian people.

Mook

hotel de mercedes in colon, cebu is a good place to base yourself, safe, cheap and clean (but keep all your receipts).

you`ll nearly always find a pimp outside who will take you to the "boarding house" which is about a 5 min walk. you don't actually go inside a house instead you`ll find about 10 girls waiting outside, range from 4-8, but i thought some were ****.

i paid 500 pesos (up front) to the pimp then a tip of a couple hundred to the girl (later). most of these girls are tight and firm, but the service is hit and miss, and don't let them watch the tv!
one of the pimps is a decent looking girl in her late 20s, and is well worth a shot (pse rated).

i used this route in-between "dates" i organized through filipinaheart.com where free sex is the norm, if you play the boyfriend game. the girls here are real sweet and keen to make an impression, and none want money, just a chance of moving to europe or the us.

if your coming from the uk don't change you money into $, the £ is strong and you`ll have no problems changing them. cows

I visit the place you mention in Gorordo ave...

It was 31 october and to because the day after was holiday they was closed at 17h00
The only girls "TelTel" told me they are open 24hours a day but she work only day time's. The other girls start around 20h00 and they are 5.

The massage was 250 pesos... but it's take less then a minute before she said you have a big penis do you want a BJ... and offer for 2000peso. I said noway it's too much expensive. She propose a a body to body massage where she will undress herself and massage me for ... 2000 peso. Again I refuse. She finaly asking for 1000 for a BJ including the body to body. I didn'T have so much time today so I agree. But she just took out her top and pass rapidly on my skin. Didn't want I touch her and was not happy to because she need to provide the condom. She manage the BJ and after finish she ask me for extra tip. I refuse a deal is a deal. I don't know if the other girls are better but this one I don't recommend.

Anyway I just move here so I will have time to visit other place and let's you know. :)

Regard

Tylenol

Heart’s Health massage has moved from Fuente Pension to a little shopfront about 20 minute walk away. It’s in a street called Gorordo Ave, east of Fuente Pension. Walk east along Gen Maxilom Ave, past Mango Plaza, until you reach Gorordo Ave. Turn left and walk about 300-500 metres. Cross the road. It’s in a section of little shops. Not much of a sign but it does say massage, which I think is in neon at night.

I paid 250P (1 hour) for day rate (before 5-6pm). Girl, about 26 and slightly above average, offered BJ and FS for about 1500P. Finally got a covered BJ for 800P. I returned 2 weeks later and had same service, this time for 500P.

Next day I visited Mars Massage, Downtown. Is now within Hallmark Hotel, not Hotel Victoria de Cebu, 179 Osmena Blvd, just past intersection of Colon St. Paid 300P (1 hr) for massage, 500P for covered BJ.

The third visit to a massage place was the renowned and much discussed Metropolis. Paid only 350P for hour massage (off-peak rate at about 3pm) and chose ok looking 22-yr-old. Paid 500P for covered BJ.

Stayed in Moalboal for 3 nights. Had a wonderful 19-year-old (8/10) I picked up at a beachside bar for ST (1 hour) for only 500P (no bar fines in Moalboal), included uncovered BJ and FS. Great value with GFE touch.

Hope this helps. See Dumaguete.[/QUOTE]

Hi there I leave in Cebu Labangon... when you arrive at the airport just cross the street just in front at your right you will have few stair to bring you in another street where all the meter taxi are. The rate is the meeter plus 20 peso ( to cover the Taxi parking fee ). If you got a good service ask for is name and phone number. Some time we call some of them and travel around on different beach at a good price... :)

Ok I need to go to the beach now... :) have a good day

Tylenol

[QUOTE=Mahku]Sad to say the taxi situation on arrival at Cebu Airport is getting more and more like Manila. The police now seem to be in collusion with chartered taxi interests to keep metered taxis out of the arrivals area. A metered taxi as far as the Midtown Hotel costs about 110. The taxi companies at the airport ask for 200. I know this is only about a buck and a half, but being charged double for something just doesn't sit right.

If you're traveling light enough you can take the stairs up to departures and get a metered taxi. Also if you're in the mood you can argue with the police and they may call a metered taxi for you to come down to arrivals. When I did this on my first time through on this trip both the police and the taxi touts were getting quite ill tempered about it, something else that's very Manila-like in normally laid back Cebu. I just kept insisting until they did their job.

Second time through I was with GoodEnough and he watched our bags while I went up to departures and grabbed a metered taxi. But again it took lots of argueing with the police to let the taxi into the arrivals area.

So when you arrive in Cebu be prepared to just pay 200 or battle it out with the scammers.[/QUOTE]

Pal,

I have been to several of the Fiestas in Cebu over the years. It gets ery crowded but there are tons of gorgeous, young ladies around. The cheap hotels and pesion houses fill up first. Last year Metropolis Court Hotel where I stay was not filled up. I assume this is due to being up in Guadalupe but still ony a P45 car ride to Fuente Osmean and about P 60 to downtown Cebu.

Book a Hotel NOW. DO not wait. Get out early and remember you will have a tough time finding a cab ride when the fiesta is at its "peak". Hae fun.

Dragon Slayer

Hi there I been to SM this afternoon to buy computer paper's. When I get out from the shop in the last floor of SM a nice girl smile at me, so I reply with a smile and I stop few foot later. She came to talk with me... What are you doing, walking around... me too... do you want to pass time with me she said. So I ask how much she said 500 peso if she is nice 700. I asking what is include she reply everything. So I accept, we took a taxi and she said to the drive travelers hotel... it's a short time hotel, 3 hours 185 pesos. I was suprise it was very clean sheet. We took a shower together and soon on the bed she gave me a BBJ We kiss and I lick her until she come! After that we got a nice fuck. We chat for a while and she start the story about her sister is at the hospital and it cost 1000 peso for blood transfert etc... I knew she will asking more money, so I make my own story too about I loose my job and looking for another job... After a while we fuck again but this time I was very hard and her pussy was so tight! After we done we took another shower together and took back the taxi to SM. Total of my day:

taxi two way 71 peso, room 185 and I gave her 700 peso. She was very nice smale size body ferm tit's and no fat or mark on the belay, but she have a beauty spot on the lips and a stain birth on her back. She told me she was 25. Her name was Michelle. She don't have telephone number and she don't know how to use an email address! But she said she will be again at SM Friday 5th and next tuesday 9th in front of the computer shop at the last floor of SM at 14h00 or at Starbuck coffee... I cannot go this week but if someone else want to enjoy... After that on my way back I stop at Silver Dollard it was 17h00 not so much people only 3 girls rate about 5, I took a beer, the happy hours is from 16h00 to 21h00 everyday and beer is 35 peso. lady drink 100. I chat with one girl and she told me the bar fee is 600, and she charge 1500 or 1300 for a short time. She said they also have a VIP room and it's 300 peso plus 3 lady drink. I stop there last week just to have a look and take a beer and on the stage was two very nice girls, I will probably there again.

Enjoy fox

Tylenol

Hi folks, Today I take a walk downtown Cebu and I walk on Plaridel about 30 meters west from Juan Luna on the map but on the street the name is Osmena bld . Anyway it's at the third and the name is Finland massage parlor. Inside was a window's similar like Bgk. As soon I arrive many girls going in this fish room. I saw maybe 20 girls it was 14h30 and the man told me take number 40. She is good. sudenly two girls arrive in the room where I was. One was very small cute and prety 24 yo like I like! So I choose her ( sorry I will not told you her number.) We want in the room the cost was 435 peso for one hours. The guy bring me there and ask me to buy a beer and a soft drink for the girls... total 80 peso. I took a shower and my girls arrive. She was a perfect body she find my beer was not cold enought and ask the guy to replace. She was lovely I wish I can have a girls friend like her! Whe look in the eyes and kiss each other's like whe are lover's I mean a real french kiss. She gave me a nice massage and I said I want to kiss her down's there so she took of her clothes and I lick her until she came in my mouth and we kiss again and we fuck until I come inside her! We kiss again it was something magic! She gave me her phone number we will probably go to movie next week. I ask her how much she told me I decide to because we didn't discuss any price. We agree for 1000peso. But belive me it's was no price for this hour's!! Perfect small body, nice but, nice firm tit's, wonderfull smile, kiss like longtime a girl friend didn't kiss me! Very I recommand! She told me it's open from 08h00am to 02h00am. She told me next time to ask for a discount card. More you go there more you have discount from 10 to 20%. But I will meet her on her day's off. We was talking to go to the beach or to the theater together.

Many bar and bikini bar or KTV bar in this area. Also some freewalkers on the street's, but my ball's was very empty after this afternoon with this nice girl.

Very recommand.

Tylenol

Juniour,

With respect to young woman and older men, I should clarify. Of course there are 1000s of ways this scene is different in Asia then US.

I was specifically referring to married men and young girls-- and i don't just mean "old" married men. I'm in my mid-late thirties. I'm married. There are many college girls that want to be my girlfriend. Now, if I weren't married I'd be a kid in a candy store. But my status means I need to really trust these girls. And lets face if you fall in love with a married guy that's tough.

So, girls will put up with being you're number 2 , but in return want you to do a little more for them in buying some gifts.

My search such sex babe actually wanted nothing from me at all in first. But then she started feeling hurt because she grew very attached and was #2. But she was willing to be a trouper, not to mention fuck my brains out every time we got togher and really enjoy it (wet as a flooding river). Her attitude towards gifts changed slightly. She did hint that it would be nice for me to spend more money on her than i was (which was nothing other than dinner out at places like outdoor grill restaurants, few dollars here or there).

But my main point is that I was talking to someone who's job it was to look into these kind of relationships, basically investige. This person said they are VERY much on the rise in Cebu.

WL

Ever since Cebu Local and DS stopped posting on this board it seems to have died. I spend about 5 months a year in Cebu. I'm going be there for the month of December. I'm in my late 30s but have the advantage of the "package" that is what the cuties want.

I need a partner in crime. I also need an alibi, because all my play has to be under-cover. So, for example, if I take a girl to Panglao (bohol) over the weekend-- which I want to do a lot, I need to say I went there with a guy friend.

I'm cool w/ semi-pro, but I gave up on pro (I think and hope this will continue to be the case). As many have said, it's just too easy to meet semi or free-bees. I got a bunch of girls lined up for dates in Dec from the dating sites-- maybe I'd even share sloppy seconds from those that prove to be catches (kidding). If you want to meet some of these girls with me and you have some wealth to share, please do PM me.

Also, I'd like to try picking up girls at sunflower and/or other places. the college girl I was doing last time I was there (no money to her, just paying for simple dates) made me see this place is popular for girls looking to meet foreigners. For example, she and her friend were both solid 9s, and her friend was out to meet a Westerner. Seemed whenever she had the money that's were she would go out. I don't know about sunflower too much, much of this is speculation. PM me if you’re up for getting together to meet girls on the ground, out of cyber-space.