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[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1493689]Might also because you're apparently a Chinese Indonesian, while I am a Caucasian American? Unfortunately, there is some prejudice in the Jakarta spas, as can be testified by Jakarta After Dark 2, Menteng and many other senior members here.[/QUOTE]Sure, but as has been said before, that cuts both ways. I've been to Kota places where they are really focussed on the local and / or overseas Chinese and some girls won't go with a bule, or only reluctantly. Haha. They sometimes say that your cock will be too big, although I can assure them that, while mine has served me well over the years and I'm really quite proud of it, it is by no means freakishly enormous. Still, never a good idea to push when you sense reluctance, always better to move on and find a place where you are made to feel welcome at the offset, things usually go better that way.

My experiences at Melawai have also been good, and the best so far in Jka. I find that early afternoon there are more girls and there are some gems in there.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried;1493589]I do agree with Hotel Melawai being great service. On my first visit to Jakarta two years ago this was my first stop following checkin to the Gran Mahakam. Was a bit of a walk and agree the quality was not great but the service was superb. I've not tried classic yet but will do so soon.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

I have a couple of questions and would appreciate some advice.

1) last time in Jka I met a beautiful 21 year-old in TopGun and took her back to the hotel for a few hours. I flew back the next day but we've kept in touch. She is sending me pics and vids and says she misses me and can't wait to see me again. I think she's amazing and have booked a flight for a long weekend in January to be with her. Now before you get the wrong idea, we both know what we are doing. I'm after fun and games with someone half my age who pretends they enjoy my company, and she'll be wanting payment. We'll be together for a full weekend (48 hours approx, so 2 days 2 nights) and I plan to spend our time together shopping, eating, fucking (definitely not in that order). No doubt she'll have some financial crisis that she needs my help with. So how much do you think I should leave? I'm a generous man and she it totally smoking hot, and she plays a good game. But then I don't want to leave money that is absurdly high. Any opinions gratefully received.

2) Totally unrelated to the first question: I arrive on the red-eye flight at 5:30am, so can be in Jakarta at around 6:30am. Does anyone know of a hotel I can book into where there will be some girls around to take to the room at that time? Hotel Travel for example? (I haven't been there before). Or are the bars of Classic open at that time? Anywhere will do, as I'll be checking out the next morning.

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=HappilyMarried; 1493095]Hi guys,

Am planning my upcoming trip to Jakarta. I've been twice already for ten day periods. I plan to stay the ten days again but venture out of Jakarta. My aim to is find a place which has a bit to see as in Touristy stuff but definitely has available ladies too. If touristy not to good and ladies are plentiful then I'd prefer that combo. I am into a mix of things having luck with dating sites and mall meets as well as P4P. Can anyone suggest a particular place outside of Jakarta (already been to Bandung) which can offer the best of both worlds? I'm not too keen on flying (prefer somewhere close by mini bus) but I think I've resigned to the fact I will need to fly. I'm also ok to stay in pretty seedy places.

Any suggestions?

HappilyMarried[/QUOTE]My suggestion would be, stay in Jakarta. Second best may be taking the train to Yogyakarta and stay a week. Students, nightlife, tourism.

Third. Short trips to Bogor, Puncak pass, Pelabuhan ratu, Anyer. Bandung used to be called "Paris of Java" but that was 50 years ago. It's become an unattractive city and tourism destination since. Plenty of uncharted venues, but in 10 days?

Have fun.

back in jakarta after an absence of a few months, i checked out my typical haunt, malioboro.

the vibe in the main bar was much the same. i spent just a few minutes there, didn't feel any real enthusiasm, and went to the wine bar. now this is where i have usually found a girl i like. despite the recent reports saying that these girls are older and used up, my experience has been that they are just a little less attractive than those in the main bar, not older, and usually provide better service for a lower price.

however, things have changed. the place was empty, with only four girls. this was on a saturday night. they lined up, and none looked happy to be there. one looked like she was going to cry. i am not unattactive. yes i'm in my 40's but i am fit and decent looking and i don't usually see this reaction from the girls. but the really bad news was that the price had more than doubled. now 800k rupiah for one of these girls. i was told that in the main bar they start at 1m.

i was annoyed that they would more than double the price (from the prior 350k) , but eventually picked one of the girls. we went up to a nicer room than i had seen there in the past, so this seemed promising that i might get more for my money. no such luck. the service was terrible. the girl was very shy, hiding behind her towel. not wanting to do any foreplay other than sit on the bed with a fake smile, pushing for me to put the condom on and get going. mood-killer. still i eventually rose to the occasion and we started with the sex. she did her best to squirm and hold me away so that i was barely half in her. i am not aggressive or overly large, but she was acting like i was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her and kept pushing me away. now i was totally not in the mood. i am not about to keep going when a girl is pushing me away.

so that was it. i showered and left in disgust, unfinished. i should have complained to the mamasan, but i don't care because i doubt i'll be back to the malioboro unless i read reports that it has improved. i do not think that doubling the price and halving the service is a good business move.

i grabbed a taxi and headed to classic. there my experience usually has been pretty girls with very mechanical service, but i was horny so i went.

there were a ton of guys there, and a good number of girls but definitely many must have been busy, as the couches were over half empty. i picked a skinny girl, and asked her to pick a friend since the 2 girl price is such a bargain. 460k. her friend was even skinnier. i like skinny girls.

we got a room and it started slow as we lounged around waiting for drinks. then, showers and the fun began.

these two girls were great. ok, i need to temper that. the expectation at classic is not gfe, so no kissing, no bj without a condom, and mechanical service in general. but it was by far the best service i had at classic, and they were enthusiastic. and very attractive. the sex was great and went on for a while, followed by us collapsing in a heap with me in the middle, as we all closed our eyes and half-slept for a little while. i tipped them each 10k and they seemed happy with that.

so, my worst ever experience at malioboro followed by my best ever at classic.

[QUOTE=Pez612;1494340]So how much do you think I should leave? I'm a generous man and she it totally smoking hot, and she plays a good game. But then I don't want to leave money that is absurdly high. Any opinions gratefully received.[/QUOTE]These shopping trips add up. If you're seriously planning on going shopping, don't expect to get away with less than one or two million for that alone. So a cash bonus of another one or two would put you into the seriously generous category. Certainly expect to continue to get messages saying how much you are missed at that level. On the other hand, if there's a subtle way to get the message across that money spent on shopping will reduce the value of the cash bonus, you could try that, but don't expect the concept to be automatically understood. Most girls like gifts but prefer cash, certainly 21 years olds you meet in Top Gun, anyway, but they don't necessarily catch that there's a limit to the total budgeted expenditure. Girls on dating sites are a different story, they almost always like to be taken to nice places, sometimes like gifts (although a surprisingly large proportion of the "nice", professional, middle class types don't really hussle for them and actually resist being taken shopping quite convincingly if it looks like a sugar daddy trip) , but will almost always be a bit upset if you bluntly offer them cash, even taxi fare home. But you can't expect a Top Gun girl to show those kind of sensitivities.

[quote=braaaam; 1494484]back in jakarta after an absence of a few months.

i tipped them each [b]10k[/b] and they seemed happy with that.

so, my worst ever experience at malioboro followed by my best ever at classic.[/quote]i assume you mean 100k, right? i hope so, or else i've been overtipping by a factor of five (at least!).

got to agree with you about malioboro. i have never indulged in more than the eye-candy and lapdances there, since there's no way the service could be worth what they charge (in my opinion, of course). went there on friday night and was quoted 1 million for a bj from one of the dancers. she was smoking hot, but my big brain was still thankfully in charge. got a lapdance from a girl later on and she asked for drinks. i told her "two only" and she nodded. after about a 3 minute lapdance, the wee thing had clandestinely downed ten shots of the 'liquor' before her. i was pretty peeved by this and made this clear to the guy that came with the bill for me to sign. managed to negotiate it down to 5 drinks charged and then the bastard demanded a 50k tip! ah well, live and learn.

fairly certain the exit bill was padded too, but it's pretty difficult to keep track with all the distractions.

[QUOTE=Braaaam;1494484]The expectation at Classic is not GFE, so no kissing, no BJ without a condom, and mechanical service in general.[/QUOTE]That's really strange.

Classic as well as similar venues in the Kota area have been extremely easy getting bareback compared to most other mongering places in Asia including Land of Smiles. In fact, at Classic I have never been forced a condom for BJ, and maybe 5 times for FS although I have succeeded in getting 2 of them to change their minds after some sweet talking. And yes I have been went with hundreds of Classic cewek over the last few years.

Maybe you should do it the way locals do by spending some time chatting them up first before you book her. Buy her a Pocari or pack of Sampoerna. They will most probably say yes so they can stock up on their supply.

Another thing is watch their body language and face when the mamasan brings them over or when you are standing alone and taking your pick. If they look like they don't want to be with you or put up a fake smile, then try to avoid them.

[QUOTE=Joel Goodsen; 1494475]My suggestion would be, stay in Jakarta. Second best may be taking the train to Yogyakarta and stay a week. Students, nightlife, tourism.

Third. Short trips to Bogor, Puncak pass, Pelabuhan ratu, Anyer. Bandung used to be called "Paris of Java" but that was 50 years ago. It's become an unattractive city and tourism destination since. Plenty of uncharted venues, but in 10 days?

Have fun.[/QUOTE]To Joel

I think you can spend 10 days just in Jarkata not much mongering in Bandung and Bali is too damn expensive now, only other city in Indo is Surabuya but you got everything you need at Jarkata no need to go anywhere else.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=ChineseIndo; 1492692]I'm not recommend Kartika. I ever go once with 2 of my friends. All three of us got really suck services. Only like 10 minutes of the what you call nuru style. And the girls kindda hurry. Also kindda pushy about the tips.

I reccomend the place before Kartika. The name is Royal. Never ask for tips. And get a good service. And cheaper too. Even the place no better than Kartika. Its only cost 250k last year.[/QUOTE]To Chinese indo.

I been going to Kartika for a long time more than 20 time always have good service yes girl are pushy for tip if service is good I tip them 50 k, the last 2 time there didn't see any girl I like so just leave and head to hotel travel, I think the Royal and berlian is dump never see any girl I like there.

Fast Eddie 48

[quote=braaaam; 1494484]back in jakarta after an absence of a few months, i checked out my typical haunt, malioboro.

the vibe in the main bar was much the same. i spent just a few minutes there, didn't feel any real enthusiasm, and went to the wine bar. now this is where i have usually found a girl i like. despite the recent reports saying that these girls are older and used up, my experience has been that they are just a little less attractive than those in the main bar, not older, and usually provide better service for a lower price.

however, things have changed. the place was empty, with only four girls. this was on a saturday night. they lined up, and none looked happy to be there. one looked like she was going to cry. i am not unattactive. yes i'm in my 40's but i am fit and decent looking and i don't usually see this reaction from the girls. but the really bad news was that the price had more than doubled. now 800k rupiah for one of these girls. i was told that in the main bar they start at 1m.

i was annoyed that they would more than double the price (from the prior 350k) , but eventually picked one of the girls. we went up to a nicer room than i had seen there in the past, so this seemed promising that i might get more for my money. no such luck. the service was terrible. the girl was very shy, hiding behind her towel. not wanting to do any foreplay other than sit on the bed with a fake smile, pushing for me to put the condom on and get going. mood-killer. still i eventually rose to the occasion and we started with the sex. she did her best to squirm and hold me away so that i was barely half in her. i am not aggressive or overly large, but she was acting like i was [url=http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125][CodeWord125][/url] her and kept pushing me away. now i was totally not in the mood. i am not about to keep going when a girl is pushing me away.

so that was it. i showered and left in disgust, unfinished. i should have complained to the mamasan, but i don't care because i doubt i'll be back to the malioboro unless i read reports that it has improved. i do not think that doubling the price and halving the service is a good business move.

i grabbed a taxi and headed to classic. so, my worst ever experience at malioboro followed by my best ever at classic.[/quote]actually i wish you had complained to the mamasan, either during the session (best choice) or immediately afterwards (second-best choice).

at the very least you might prevent other mongers from being disappointed the way you were, as the mamasan would have made sure the girl receives extra training or else gets fired (and let's face it, not every girl is cut out for that line of work). if you had called on the phone, the mamasan would have tried to fix the situation, she may have asked you to give the phone to the girl so she could talk to her, or else the mamasan might come up to the room to speak to the girl in person, or maybe even switch girls.

i've only had one bad session at malioboro, with one of the expensive chinese girls, who gave me a 30-second blow job right at the beginning of the hour then refused to go any further. so i called the mamasan and threatened to leave without paying, so the mamasan came up to the room and talked with the girl in mandarin for a couple of minutes. the mamasan then left and the rest of the hour went much more smoothly.

Totally understand G2. I don't have time for dating sites unfortunately, and prefer an arrangement where I am left happy in exchange for a payment. Let's forget the shopping, as it may not happen with her. How much would be a generous, but not stupidly generous, amount of money to help this absolute stunner after 2 days and nights of solid fucking? She knows the score, she'll be my girlfriend for the weekend and then I go back to Australia.

Thanks for your help.

[QUOTE=Gonzo Two;1494501]These shopping trips add up. If you're seriously planning on going shopping, don't expect to get away with less than one or two million for that alone. So a cash bonus of another one or two would put you into the seriously generous category. Certainly expect to continue to get messages saying how much you are missed at that level. On the other hand, if there's a subtle way to get the message across that money spent on shopping will reduce the value of the cash bonus, you could try that, but don't expect the concept to be automatically understood. Most girls like gifts but prefer cash, certainly 21 years olds you meet in Top Gun, anyway, but they don't necessarily catch that there's a limit to the total budgeted expenditure. Girls on dating sites are a different story, they almost always like to be taken to nice places, sometimes like gifts (although a surprisingly large proportion of the "nice", professional, middle class types don't really hussle for them and actually resist being taken shopping quite convincingly if it looks like a sugar daddy trip) , but will almost always be a bit upset if you bluntly offer them cash, even taxi fare home. But you can't expect a Top Gun girl to show those kind of sensitivities.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Braaaam;1494484]I tipped them each 10k and they seemed happy with that.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear that like me, you had a pleasant experience at Classic recently.

It is easy to confuse oneself with the Indonesian Rupiah. Can I just confirm if you tipped them 10, 000 IDR or 100, 000 IDR?

[QUOTE=Mighty Spearsman;1494750]So I called the mamasan and threatened to leave without paying, so the mamasan came up to the room and talked with the girl in Mandarin for a couple of minutes.[/QUOTE]So do you just dial the reception and ask to speak to the mamsan?

Great write-up and your spot on with the advice.

I love the seediness of the place, and have never had a bad experience, always get BBBJ and often a rimjob, if your like me and love a 69. The girls are way up for that. I usually do after work, maybe a 5pm or a 6pm (I think shift change is 5pm).

Have fun guys.

[QUOTE=Pez612; 1491521]I'm a couple of weeks late posting this, but hey ho.

On my last day in Jka I decided to treat myself to 4 girls at Hotel Melawai (Blok M). They open for business at 10am. I turned up at 10:30 but there were just a couple of girls there, and they were a bit too battle-weary looking for my taste. Decided to take a coffee somewhere and I went back at 11:30am. By now there were around 8 girls free. The girl who showed me in was stunning, but I decided to take 4 girls who were chatting and getting on well together in the bar, as I figure that friends perform well together.

Anyhow, into the room and shower and down to business. The girls were great, lots of fun and laughing and it wasn't long before I had three of them sucking and licking my cock and balls, and the other was playing with my nips (why are Asian girls so obsessed with that?). I just lay there and they then took turns riding me. At no point did any girl stop showing me attention, and I generally had at least one pair of tits in my face as another girl rode my cock. One of them had an orgasm (or at least pretended to) and the others were very happy about this. Two of them took turns giving me some very passionate kissing, which I totally loved, and everyone was moaning and groaning. As my time was ending I asked them to finish me off with a blow job. They didn't hesitate, and I had three girls sucking away again. I indicated I was going to blow my load and one of them held her mouth to the end and let me spray her mouth and chin with cum. I didn't expect this and it was fucking awesome!.[/QUOTE]