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Hey guys,
Honestly: Why should I tell you any stories / lies?
I am really not interested in telling bullshit but just wanted to give anyone who is not familiar with the Wan Chai club / bar scene an idea that everything can work-out quite well. And I am also not interested in being attacked by you guys. Believe it or not and try your own luck. For me the visit in Hongkong was really great.
At Chantik:
The reason why I paid 300 HKD for one of the girls was simply cause she did ask for it.
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1357456]Getting freebies from working girls. Sigh!
Now, all this is strictly my own druthers and opinion but I have never appreciated the wisdom or the justice in guys getting freebies from working girls.
The old saw about freebies always ending up costing more in the long run is why I cannot see the wisdom, but on the same token, I also think that its totally unfair for guys to get such freebies and is akin to grabbing candy from a baby.
By the very nature of their chosen profession, most WG's are, IMHO, emotionally damaged goods and are actually easy prey for anybody who've got the right moves. All it takes are professions of true feelings, treating them as if they're just regular girls, promises, eagerness, and the bird's in the bag in most cases. How can these girls, who are usually of limited education, has had little opportunity, with limited if any experience of regular "love life / relationship" etc even try to match the wiles of us mongers? Us mongers who are usually of higher education, in much higher socio-economic circumstances AND with lots of experience in the "courting game"
WG's are to me, like lamb to slaughter in the hands of guys who're intent on getting freebies from them; and in my opinion its totally wrong and is bad karma.
Just my own POV
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Yeah, GF and DH should not be confused with WG. Easier to deal with DH if treat them like WGs. IMHO, problem with all girls is that they can turn around and bite you. Everything in their favor. Plenty of stories around. The adage "hell has no fury" is not to be trifled with.
Always found most of the NM girls more mercenary and treat one like a walking ATM.
[QUOTE=Card Boy; 1357569]Hey guys,
Honestly: Why should I tell you any stories / lies?
I am really not interested in telling bullshit but just wanted to give anyone who is not familiar with the Wan Chai club / bar scene an idea that everything can work-out quite well. And I am also not interested in being attacked by you guys. Believe it or not and try your own luck. For me the visit in Hongkong was really great.
At Chantik:
The reason why I paid 300 HKD for one of the girls was simply cause she did ask for it.[/QUOTE]CB,
As I said, I wasn't there, so I cannot say it didn't happen and I agree that fabricating this story doesn't really further any cause that I can see. On the other hand, I hope that you can appreciate the fact that the frequency of this occurring with ladies that are accustomed to being compensated for their time, has to be pretty low. And to have it happen on multiple nights in different venues is nothing short of amazing, and for that I salute your prowess. As the saying goes, the truth is many times much stranger than fiction. Who knows, maybe you are opening up a whole new method, convince them that they like you so much they don't need to be compensated! Not sure I would be that successful, but I got nothing to lose by trying!
[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1357456]The old saw about freebies always ending up costing more in the long run is why I cannot see the wisdom, but on the same token, I also think that its totally unfair for guys to get such freebies and is akin to grabbing candy from a baby.
WG's are to me, like lamb to slaughter in the hands of guys who're intent on getting freebies from them; and in my opinion its totally wrong and is bad karma.
Just my own POV
SEAJ[/QUOTE]Joe,
On the whole I agree with you, but I would remove the part about them being "working girls". My personal feelings are that manipulating any girls feelings just to get her into bed, is bad karma. I don't mean being nice or the like, but intentionally lying about intentions, feelings, and praying on her emotions just to get laid is not something I would endorse, working girl or not. Having said that, at least in my experience, most of the ladies in Wanchai are not the "right off the farm" girls that one encounters in other locations in the area. Most of these gals, while maybe not having the highest formal education levels, have a fair amount of street smarts, so I would be surprised if they are easily taken in by some guy promising them the moon. I can see that happening with some of the "weekend warriors", like the DH's but not the gals that work in the clubs on a regular basis. One thing about a supposed "freebie" in Wanchai is that you don't have to get the lady to overcome the resistance to an intimate physical encounter with a relative stranger, it may be nothing more than the proverbial "spark or chemistry" and she decides,"what the heck, this could be fun", instead of a commercial transaction. Also, while I know the ladies can always say no to a potential client, at least in the case of a "freebie" they are the one doing the choosing. On the other hand, I could be wrong about all of this. Which is the most likely case of all!
Think the guys are interested in what strategies you used to get the girls in bed for free.
Did you charm them?
Did you make them laugh?
Did you promise to marry them?
Did you say that you would make them cum a million times?
Are you a hot dancer?
Did you sing them songs?
And did this not work for the girl who asked for $300.
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1357647]Think the guys are interested in what strategies you used to get the girls in bed for free.
Did you charm them?
Did you make them laugh?
Did you promise to marry them?
Did you say that you would make them cum a million times?
Are you a hot dancer?
Did you sing them songs?
And did this not work for the girl who asked for $300.[/QUOTE]Chantik,
I was going thru your "checklist" to see what kind of "success" rate I would expect using these criteria.
1. I can be charming (mostly because I really do appreciate women) +1.
2. Maybe at the very thought of "bedding me for free". Not sure that qualifies-1.
3. Not in this lifetime. Maybe in the next-1.
4. Is 999, 999 enough. My tongue will be very tired. Not enough. I didn't think so-2.
5. In my dreams, I am John Travolta right out of Saturday Night Fever. Not so sure it translates into reality. However, I am lighting up the salsa classes-3.
6. Awesome KTV singer as long as it is Westlife. Ask SEAJ, not what you were looking for-4.
After this in depth self evaluation I can easily see that 300 HKD will not even come close.
[QUOTE=Card Boy; 1357569]Hey guys,
Honestly: Why should I tell you any stories / lies?
I am really not interested in telling bullshit but just wanted to give anyone who is not familiar with the Wan Chai club / bar scene an idea that everything can work-out quite well. And I am also not interested in being attacked by you guys. Believe it or not and try your own luck. For me the visit in Hongkong was really great.
At Chantik:
The reason why I paid 300 HKD for one of the girls was simply cause she did ask for it.[/QUOTE]Sir, some of us here can understand, totally, your experience.
I have had many similar experiences, generally from just being a nice easy going and easy to please guy.
Here in Beijing (and yeah, I've got trip reports from all over Asia) I've had 3 girls in my bed past 3 few days, and all it cost me was a few eggs and orange juice (for breakfast).
This weekend theres more lined up, again, because I'm easy to talk to, etc. No need to be the greatest dancer or the smoothest sweet talker. Girls see through that fast.
As for freebies being more expensive. Nah. Definately not unless you get "Klingons" and can't figure out how to UnKling.
[QUOTE=Boarer;1357555]Think Fifty proves that most most guys "think" of girls with their little heads and girls over think men's complexity. It is amazing how much return a girl gets from investing a red 3 inch heel and lycra jean (or little black dress). And as Chantik points out, there are so so many examples around town with ladies from all nationalities striking it big.[/QUOTE]Boarer.
We wear 3 inch heels because we are short!
On a more serious note. Guys have always married women who have less education. Particularly when women didn't have the same education / work opportunities. But women don't tend to marry men who have less education.
Think Sky Ryder must be busy. His inbox is full.
[QUOTE=Chantik;1357657]Think Sky Ryder must be busy. His inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Nt busy, just too lazy to "empty the trash". Problem is now solved.
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1357654]Boarer.
We wear 3 inch heels because we are short!
On a more serious note. Guys have always married women who have less education. Particularly when women didn't have the same education / work opportunities. But women don't tend to marry men who have less education.[/QUOTE]Quite frankly, I don't care if your 170 CM or taller, I still like heels! They do marvelous things for a ladies legs and backside. I know they aren't so good for the feet, but with a little luck, standing over a long period of time will not be an issue. Doesn't mean you get to take the shoes off though.
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1357682]Quite frankly, I don't care if your 170 CM or taller, I still like heels! They do marvelous things for a ladies legs and backside. I know they aren't so good for the feet, but with a little luck, standing over a long period of time will not be an issue. Doesn't mean you get to take the shoes off though.[/QUOTE]Dude, IMHO 170 cm is colossal for many of the ladies I know, even on heels. (5'7" for the yanks) Many are definitely vertically challenged and some posters also think mentally. Love them as hand grips too!
[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1357682]Quite frankly, I don't care if your 170 CM or taller, I still like heels! They do marvelous things for a ladies legs and backside. I know they aren't so good for the feet, but with a little luck, standing over a long period of time will not be an issue. Doesn't mean you get to take the shoes off though.[/QUOTE]Like to leave my shoes on when on the bed.
Nothing like the porn star look.
[QUOTE=Chantik; 1357807]Like to leave my shoes on when on the bed.
Nothing like the porn star look.[/QUOTE]I have a fabulous video of a Filipina I know.
She's 5ft nothing. 19 inch waist but well shaped in front.
She's naked and wearing really high red heels. And she's doing the washing up in my kitchen.
Nice neat and tidy girl she hates to see unwashed glasses, and of course, you have to wear your shoes to do the washing up.
LOL.
[QUOTE=FreebieFan; 1358841]I have a fabulous video of a Filipina I know.
She's 5ft nothing. 19 inch waist but well shaped in front.
She's naked and wearing really high red heels. And she's doing the washing up in my kitchen.
Nice neat and tidy girl she hates to see unwashed glasses, and of course, you have to wear your shoes to do the washing up.
LOL.[/QUOTE]When you are short. You often need heels to do house duties.