Thai Women - Opinions & Advice

[QUOTE=Angel Eyes]So in SOL the norm is BJ by 2 girls at the same time?[/QUOTE]

No, SOL usually always start with 1 lady but many ladies will come to watchadn offer to join if you want. If you agree, then you will pay for the additional ladies.

One thing about SOL is that some girls (if they know you) will join without you asking. In that case, you do not pay for her because you did not ask to be serviced by her. She will expect a tip though.

Usually, 2 girls go like this:

Girl 1: 700 to the house
Girl 1 Tip: 300
Girl 2: (if asked) 700 to the house
Girl 2 Tip: 300
Girl 2: (if NOT asked) 0 to the house
Girl 2 Tip: 500

Dear ISG members,

Long time lurker, 1st time poster. Thanks for all of your contributions to this forum and helping noobs like me figure this place out!

A few months ago, I was in BKK and met a stunning BG that I had a lot of fun with, BF'ed her twice. She was classy. No tatoo's, well-dressed, and behaved smartly when outside the bar. And great in bed. We've stayed in touch here and there through email/SMS.

I'll be back in LOS in March and was thinking about taking her along w/ me to Phuket (not Patong) or Krabi for a weekend. I'm thinking it'd might be nice to have the chill weekend I was planning on, with the added bonus of a sure (and known) thing.

What are the general guidelines for traveling like this? If she knows in advance she won't be working, can she take days off (which would mean I'm off the hook for the BF)? And what is expected of me. Beyond covering hotel, flight, food, etc. When the trip comes to a close? I'd like to assume normal LT fees wouldn't apply, but I know she'd be out her normal weekend income.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions about this.

[QUOTE=Univ999]What are the general guidelines for traveling like this? If she knows in advance she won't be working, can she take days off (which would mean I'm off the hook for the BF)? And what is expected of me. Beyond covering hotel, flight, food, etc. When the trip comes to a close? I'd like to assume normal LT fees wouldn't apply, but I know she'd be out her normal weekend income.[/QUOTE]

You have to be a little careful when dealing with Travel adn Thai Girls:

1. You need to make sure that things really click between you 2 and that you will be happy spending all your time with her

2. Even though she is a prostitute, she will not accept you going around talking adn flirting with other ladies

3. You need to pay her Barfine for all the days you take her out. This is not a regular industry adn these girl don't have Vacation days. You can however bring the price of the Barfine down (her cut of it anyway).

4. For her price, it is better to ask her directly. I think that 2/3k per day should cover it as you are paying for all the rest.

The most important thing to remember is that you are NOT her boyfriend. You are a customer. She will accompany you and give you the services that you purchased (sex, Company..) but all the rest depends of hom comfortable she feels with you. YMMV.

Good Luck

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You have to be a little careful when dealing with Travel adn Thai Girls:

1. You need to make sure that things really click between you 2 and that you will be happy spending all your time with her

2. Even though she is a prostitute, she will not accept you going around talking adn flirting with other ladies

3. You need to pay her Barfine for all the days you take her out. This is not a regular industry adn these girl don't have Vacation days. You can however bring the price of the Barfine down (her cut of it anyway).

4. For her price, it is better to ask her directly. I think that 2/3k per day should cover it as you are paying for all the rest.

The most important thing to remember is that you are NOT her boyfriend. You are a customer. She will accompany you and give you the services that you purchased (sex, Company..) but all the rest depends of hom comfortable she feels with you. YMMV.

Good Luck[/QUOTE]

It all depends on the girl and what she is willing to do, I believe most girls get 1 or 2 days a month off anyway. I went to a bar once and asked for a girl but they said it was her day off but someone called her and she came to the bar anyway.

Had a girl asked me for barfine and I said no barfine. She said ok we meet down the road when she finish work.

What if they became sick and had no choice but to spend the weekend in your bed. I guess it all comes down to what the girl is willing to do.

But what is a barfine these days 600 baht? It's not the price of the barfine that matters. As you say it is what she is willing to accept as a fee for her time.

Univ999, How good is your girls English? many girls can not read or write english and have either a friend or someone from the internet cafe reply for them. I even had one girl ask me to read a SMS for her and then had me reply to the guy.

Thanks Nic,

You definitely cleared this up for me.

Will think on these "best practices" a bit more.

[QUOTE=Bob Down]Univ999, How good is your girls English? many girls can not read or write english and have either a friend or someone from the internet cafe reply for them. I even had one girl ask me to read a SMS for her and then had me reply to the guy.[/QUOTE]Hi Bob,

Her English is pretty decent. She's had some college and worked for a bank for a few years before moving on to the bar last summer. Not from a farm background and never hassled me for anything, never acted like a typical BG in the 2 nights I took her LT. (I'd say I've had 6-7 P4P experiences in BKK/Pats as a baseline).

[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]You have to be a little careful when dealing with Travel adn Thai Girls:

1. You need to make sure that things really click between you 2 and that you will be happy spending all your time with her
2. ...
3. ...
4. For her price, it is better to ask her directly. I think that 2/3k per day should cover it as you are paying for all the rest.

[b]The most important thing to remember is that you are NOT her boyfriend.[/b] (emphasis added) You are a customer. She will accompany you and give you the services that you purchased (sex, Company..) but all the rest depends of hom comfortable she feels with you. YMMV. Good Luck[/QUOTE]
Nic, all very good advice. I am currently on an extended holiday (Viet Nam & Cambodia) with a bar girl who caught my fancy awhile back and many of your points resonate with my current experience.

I spent a lot of time (weeks) with her in Bangkok before even considering inviting her on this trip. Even with this time between us, there have been surprises. Time on her home turf in Bangkok is not the same as time on the road. I think your rule of thumb for payment is accurate. A couple more suggestions:

> Finding a Thai restaurant if possible and ordering the food [i]pet mak[/i] is a good idea and seems to quickly fix her occasional bad mood!

> [i]Not talking[/i] about "the future" as you would with a girlfriend, or other about women, is another good idea. This never leads to anything positive. Just go with the flow, i.e., eat, play, sleep, play, swim,...eat, play, sleep, etc.

All that said, unless one is totally detached emotionally, it is hard to not become somewhat attached after a nice travel experience with a friendly Thai woman (working or otherwise). Just human nature for some, I think.

Hello,

I am planning my second trip to BKK. I was there for the first during the last holiday season. At that time, I met this very nice girl from a soapy.

For my second trip, I would like to take this girl out of the parlour and spend something like a entire week with her.

I know some of you are going to say I'm nuts, that it is stupid to stick with one girl in BKK. I kind of agree with that but let me tell you my story.

Before my first visit I had planned an intensive sex schedule, I was hoping to taste every girl from every part of the city.

Once I arrived in BKK, I had a few sessions with BGs that were so-so, but good compared to anything you can get home paying for sex.

After these few mediocre experiences I decided to try a soapy, from everything I had read in the forum, it seemed like good entertainment.

So I went to a parlour that had been recommended to me and met this girl, she really was just mind-blowing.

Then, I could not help going to the shop everyday.

I tryed to convince myself, I should go and taste other girls, but I was always coming back to her.

I guess this is typical newbie stuff, but it fucked me up quite a bit.

It was like I was a teenager again. Now all I want is to go back to BKK.

During our sessions, my girl said a few times, that next time I come to Thailand we should take some time to go out of the parlour, maybe even go to the beach.

She told me that I would have to email her before and not show up at the parlour, so the management of the parlour would not know she is away because of me.

So I am very tempted to go back but I have one question for you guys.

What kind of financial agreement should I make with her for that week off?
Does she has to pay something to the parlour?

I'm not a cheap charlie, but I am reluctant to the idea of paying her.

The main reason is that I believe our story has turned into more than just a P4P encounter. I would be glad to take her to a five stars hotel at the beach and buy her gifts but paying would seem difficult to me now, not like it was when I was going to the parlour.

Maybe it is my western way to deal with girls, which makes no sense in Thailand.

I must add, that we are both the same age (25), not overweight and good looking. This is not to sound cocky, but to say that I am probably proper BF material for her.

Thanks in advance,

Neil Flanders

[QUOTE=Neil Flanders]Hello,I am planning my second trip to BKK. I was there for the first during the last holiday season. At that time, I met this very nice girl from a soapy...I'm not a cheap charlie, but I am reluctant to the idea of paying her...Maybe it is my western way to deal with girls, which makes no sense in Thailand...This is not to sound cocky, but to say that I am probably proper BF material for her.[/QUOTE]Sure, she likes you, [i]handsum man![/i] She screws old men for a living. But you still have to pay.

You must recalibrate your [i]Western[/i] thinking or she will not go anywhere with you. If she becomes your [i]proper girlfriend[/i] (!) you pay a lot more than at the soapie. Look at it this way, at least you don't have to tip the papasan!

I'd shop around a bit before taking a P4P woman as a GF. Maybe 10 more trips to the LOS. Try the internet. Lots of "nice" girls. But you still have to pay unless it is just platonic.

[QUOTE=Fon Tok]Sure, she likes you, [i]handsum man![/i] She screws old men for a living. But you still have to pay.

You must recalibrate your [i]Western[/i] thinking or she will not go anywhere with you. If she becomes your [i]proper girlfriend[/i] (!) you pay a lot more than at the soapie. Look at it this way, at least you don't have to tip the papasan!

I'd shop around a bit before taking a P4P woman as a GF. Maybe 10 more trips to the LOS. Try the internet. Lots of "nice" girls. But you still have to pay unless it is just platonic.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reality check Fon Tok!

I need to clarify a few things from my previous post though:

-I am not planning to turn this soapy girl into my GF. I can sometimes be stupid, but I can understand this would never work. It would be way too difficult: for her in BKK, and for me in my own country.

I only would like to take her out of the soapy for about a week.

-I thought giving her a nice lifestyle: to take her shopping, dining and go out at places she cannot normally go to would be enough of a compensation for not working and earning money at the soapy.

-If you do not think that is fair compensation, how much cash should I give her on a daily basis?

(Aparently the soapies are going very slow right now, so she must not be making a fortune at her MP)

And you are right about the fact that I should try as many birds Thailand has to offer. I guess, my behaviour is a bit irrational. I think I am too schmaltzy for this P4P game.

[QUOTE=Neil Flanders]Thanks for the reality check Fon Tok!

I need to clarify a few things from my previous post though:

-I am not planning to turn this soapy girl into my GF. I can sometimes be stupid, but I can understand this would never work. It would be way too difficult: for her in BKK, and for me in my own country.

I only would like to take her out of the soapy for about a week.

-I thought giving her a nice lifestyle: to take her shopping, dining and go out at places she cannot normally go to would be enough of a compensation for not working and earning money at the soapy.

-If you do not think that is fair compensation, how much cash should I give her on a daily basis?

(Aparently the soapies are going very slow right now, so she must not be making a fortune at her MP)

And you are right about the fact that I should try as many birds Thailand has to offer. I guess, my behaviour is a bit irrational. I think I am too schmaltzy for this P4P game.[/QUOTE]

I don't think you're being THAT irrational, Neil.
I do think you should try some other MP girls, as you might find she isn't the greatest ;)

It's fine to take her out and spend a week with her - if you enjoy her company, not just the sex. And make sure you keep feelings out of it. I'm not the only one, you should know by now, that can tell u from experience that that is probably a bad idea.

[QUOTE=Neil Flanders]
I only would like to take her out of the soapy for about a week.

-I thought giving her a nice lifestyle: to take her shopping, dining and go out at places she cannot normally go to would be enough of a compensation for not working and earning money at the soapy.

-If you do not think that is fair compensation, how much cash should I give her on a daily basis?
[/QUOTE]
Girls are working in Soapies because they NEED to make money. Its not just for fun.

If you want tyo take her out of there for a week, you need to compensate for lost earnings and loss of her monthly bonus which might be 5K.
What her lost earnings would be varies greatly depending on the girl and how busy she normally is.
You need to discuss with her how much she needs per day.
I have done this many years ago. It probably will not work out very cheap. Its cheaper to visit her every day at work, but that's not what you had in mind.

I don't say its a bad idea. It can be great to have a fun week away with a hot, pretty girl as long as you both enjoy each other's company. But remember its only for the week. It means nothing for the future.

Another option is for her to come to sleep with you each night after work. This will cost you a lot less and is an option to try but you need to be aware that she would come to you tired and not ready for sex most likely.

Lots of sleep is important to Soapy girls.

Watch out for the girl soon wanting a monthly salary, every month, whether you are there or not. Thats when you will never have any hope of getting value for money. Its known that some soapy girls are also getting monthly salaries from "boy friends" in addition to their soapy work.

P.S. I have two favourite Soapy girls that are both very pretty and good in bed. I would easily do take out for the night or two. But I am realistic enough to know that neither would make a suitable GF for me. Their characters are not likely to be a perfect match to me. That doesn't mean a match is impossible. It would take a long time to get to know her true character. See what she is like drunk is very important. Hidden things come out.

Above all, go slowly!

[QUOTE=Terry Terrier]Managed to find this:

[url]http://www.phuketgazette.com/dailynews/index.asp?id=6915[/url]

Stats are based on [I]diagnosed[/I] cases, obviously, but we can only speculate about [I]un-diagnosed[/I] cases.

Interesting that Ranong, an area largely ignored by Farangs, has the highest known-about rates of infection.[/QUOTE]
Ranong probably has lots of very low class P4P girls, possibly including sex slave types, for lower class Thai men who don't use condoms.

[QUOTE=Mick Licker]Ranong probably has lots of very low class P4P girls, possibly including sex slave types, for lower class Thai men who don't use condoms.[/QUOTE]


Are you talking about Ranong down south by the Burma border or Rayong which is close to Pattaya?

[QUOTE=Neil Flanders]I must add, that we are both the same age (25), not overweight and good looking. This is not to sound cocky, but to say that I am probably proper BF material for her.[/QUOTE]After 3 months living at Thailand, I'm still making my mind around thai girls (working at bar girls & mp). So maybe my advice is not very good.

I would advice to not go with her if you have to give her money, that's all. As long as you have to pay for her time, I would consider her attention just like a another service you pay for, nothing more or less.

Good luck, it's not easy to deal with these things. I've been going through this myself.