East China - Shanghai

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575142]Don't think it sounds like a good idea, Chinese girls don't like white guys this days, can already imagine the "Oh no" expression in their faces when they see a bunch of white guys coming in. Is best to go with a group of Chinese business partners / colleagues for those that have those contacts. [/QUOTE]I would respectfully disagree with your assumption. I have attended many KTV parties that were all Laowai and they almost always went well. It would of course depend on how well the party was run and that the guys attending didn't start to act like cave men. I agree the language thing can be a barrier, but once you learn how to play some dice / drinking games that is easier as well. Again, as long as the guide is engaged in the party it should not be a problem. Now, if you just throw a bunch of foreign guys in a KTV room and close the door, I suspect it would turn into a real "snooze fest" Remember the girls don't "have" to go home with anyone, and last I checked the color of the money is not dependent on the color of your skin.

I am not sure how you make such a sweeping statement like "Chinese girls don't like white guys these days" At least that is not my recent experience. I have had a few times in KTV or sauna where it was obvious the girl was not interested, but there was always enough selection I didn't have to fly solo. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575142]Don't think it sounds like a good idea, Chinese girls don't like white guys this days, can already imagine the "Oh no" expression in their faces when they see a bunch of white guys coming in. Is best to go with a group of Chinese business partners / colleagues for those that have those contacts. [/QUOTE]Roger9.

Please provide proof of widespread dislike of white people in China. You have been stating this since at least last July.

Broad, motherhood statements just do not wash in the real world.

Making such remarks makes one wonder why you do so.

I have no problem with Chinese women and, I suspect, neither do most other foreigners no matter what their colour.

Of course, as in any part of the world and with any group of people there are those few who may be obnoxious, ill mannered or prejudiced for one reason or another.

Teltel.

Hey guys a little help? I was surfing the web and found this bunch of pics of working girls in back allys of SH.

Https//m.Flickr.Com/photos/sunsetnoir/10626357086/

Can anyone tell me where these pics were taken or places like them? Hey don't judge I just want to try it out.

[QUOTE=ShanghaiGuide;1575005]I don't know exactly your venue, but most KTVs who offer girls in different colored clothes mark the different "rates" for sitting fee visible with that. I know a club where you pay 500 per normal girl in white dresses, the pink ones are 600 and for the "schoolgirl uniformed girls" they charge 700. You did not mentioned the fee you paid for your girl, so I guess you have been invited, so no one explained the different rates to you (that would be very unpolite for the host).
[/QUOTE]Sorry, the venue was "The Shanghai Nightclub" in Caobao Lu, Xuhui district, I rather suspect it is in the higher category. I didn't attempt a takeout, but we are cementing our friendship via wechat, and will meet up in the weekend.

Fz.

[QUOTE=Teltel;1575310]Roger9.

Please provide proof of widespread dislike of white people in China. You have been stating this since at least last July.

Broad, motherhood statements just do not wash in the real world.

Making such remarks makes one wonder why you do so.

I have no problem with Chinese women and, I suspect, neither do most other foreigners no matter what their colour.

Of course, as in any part of the world and with any group of people there are those few who may be obnoxious, ill mannered or prejudiced for one reason or another.

Teltel. [/QUOTE]Yeah I was generalising a bit. At the same time you have "Shanghai guide" and others saying women here don't like darker-skinned men and a bunch of other ridiculous things. Those type of comments are not uncommon. The question is why you get so upset with my comment but not the others.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575425]Yeah I was generalising a bit. At the same time you have "Shanghai guide" and others saying women here don't like darker-skinned men and a bunch of other ridiculous things. Those type of comments are not uncommon. The question is why you get so upset with my comment but not the others. [/QUOTE]It's because your comment would offend him since he is a White guy. It's the same way a dark-skinned guy would be offended by a comment saying that dark-skinned guys are not popular in China (which is unfortunately true) but he would not, especially since he benefits from the situation. That is how it is all over the world really, and it is a reality that needs to be addressed.

I mean no offense to Teltel since he doesn't seem to be a hostile fellow, but just pointing out the reasons why some people are offended by some things while others are not.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575425]Yeah I was generalising a bit. At the same time you have "Shanghai guide" and others saying women here don't like darker-skinned men and a bunch of other ridiculous things. Those type of comments are not uncommon. The question is why you get so upset with my comment but not the others. [/QUOTE]Hi R9.

It was the generalising that I was writing about and the posts over a period of time.

I do agree that some people dislike people from other racial / national or religious groups and that is a great pity but, as a general rule, I find that I have no problem in relationships with Chinese women either on a "professional basis" or with "ordinary" women.

The postings and articles on Shanghai guide and similar publications sometimes have to be taken with a grain of salt with people posting about single occurrences or their own guesses or opinions as being the firm thing.

Teltel.

[QUOTE=YoungTriarii;1575434]. It's the same way a dark-skinned guy would be offended by a comment saying that dark-skinned guys are not popular in China (which is unfortunately true).[/QUOTE]There we go again, when thought everything was sorted out another dude coming in with this type of comments. Let me explain for you, dark-skinned in China doesn't mean you are black, dark-skinned in China is everyone that skin is not white-colored, that includes the majority of Chinese men population, also foreigners like middle easterns, greeks, indians and more. To say women dislike this men because their skin tone is just ridiculous.

Being white in China applies only to woman not men, the ideal Chinese women is white, rich, beautiful. The ideal man is tall, rich, handsome, You will never see Chinese men protecting from the sun or buying skincare products, they don't care because it doesn't matter. As long you are not extremely dark, women here don't care about your skin color!

But I think some people here will never learn, we will always see, when a black mas is rejected it's because he is black. When a white dude is rejected its because his dick size or his stamina or other excuse, they will never be able to admit it's because he is white.

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575833]To say women dislike this men because their skin tone is just ridiculous.[/QUOTE]I move that this conversation is too stupid to waste this space on and everyone stops.

[QUOTE=JohnDoe2121;1575327]Hey guys a little help? I was surfing the web and found this bunch of pics of working girls in back allys of SH.

Https//m.Flickr.Com/photos/sunsetnoir/10626357086/

Can anyone tell me where these pics were taken or places like them? Hey don't judge I just want to try it out.[/QUOTE]Looks more like HongKong to me, the motorcycle plate is not from Shanghai, perhaps someone can place it.

Fz.

[QUOTE=Johnps;1575231]Hi Shanghai Guide.

I will be in Shanghai on Saturday June 14th. When you organize the party on that Saturday, I will be there.

BR,

John[/QUOTE]Will be in Shanghai June 14 as well and would be interested!

[QUOTE=Roger9;1575833]There we go again, when thought everything was sorted out another dude coming in with this type of comments. Let me explain for you, dark-skinned in China doesn't mean you are black, dark-skinned in China is everyone that skin is not white-colored, that includes the majority of Chinese men population, also foreigners like middle easterns, greeks, indians and more. To say women dislike this men because their skin tone is just ridiculous.

Being white in China applies only to woman not men, the ideal Chinese women is white, rich, beautiful. The ideal man is tall, rich, handsome, You will never see Chinese men protecting from the sun or buying skincare products, they don't care because it doesn't matter. As long you are not extremely dark, women here don't care about your skin color!

But I think some people here will never learn, we will always see, when a black mas is rejected it's because he is black. When a white dude is rejected its because his dick size or his stamina or other excuse, they will never be able to admit it's because he is white.[/QUOTE]Well, I guess I am extremely dark because I am an "African-American" Good thing that there are a lot of skin bleaching products in China.

[QUOTE=Fuzimiao;1576195]Looks more like HongKong to me, the motorcycle plate is not from Shanghai[/QUOTE]Characters is in simplified Chinese, therefore is in China somewhere and not in Hong Kong.

Mmlouie.

Looking for a place for some extended lunch fun and all the saunas seem to be in Puxi. Is there anywhere from LJZ out to, say, Biyun Lu?

Bodi,

Attached to the Bodi Boutique Hotel, and Waves (SiYuan) in the Merrylynn Hotel are both in Pudong relatively near Century Park.

I believe they are open from earlier threads.