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Hey guys posted this in Phuket thread but got no response. Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks.
East coast.
Need some advise.
May seem stupid but I will be visiting Phuket next year and will be staying at the east cost of Phuket.
Only interested in massage parlous and HJ's. Obviously I don't want to travel that 1 h to Patong.
Any suggestions? And what's the protocols?
Please help.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1813352]Ha ha! He was just being nice with the word "mature". He did not want to say "old bags" and he would not be checking out exactly how old they were. Would you prefer "past their prime"?
However girls that I think look great at 25 to 35, may already be far to old for the youth obsessed types. For some guys, young=pretty, but that is really stupid for me. 20 YO girls can be just as ugly as 40 YOs for me.[/QUOTE]Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me, and my recent post-divorce experience has confirmed what we already knew. Mature women tend to be better at sex (once past their prime, they can no longer hold their vagina up like some precious commodity). They also tend to be more bat-shit crazy than ever.
But back to our previous conversations about age, Mr S. You might recall on another thread, we were talking about how the Thai women don't look as old as their western or Asian counterparts. This kind of makes it hard for an occidental first-time visitor to understand what he is getting into. I had a webcam call with a hot looking MILF who was in her 40's, looked like her 20's. She has a daughter who was 18, who was helping her run her shop. The daughter looked like she was 10 though she was headed for college. She had a picture of her other daughter, who was 25, but she looked more like 15. You see a potential dilemma for someone new to Thailand?
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1813965]Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me, and my recent post-divorce experience has confirmed what we already knew. Mature women tend to be better at sex (once past their prime, they can no longer hold their vagina up like some precious commodity). They also tend to be more bat-shit crazy than ever.
But back to our previous conversations about age, Mr S. You might recall on another thread, we were talking about how the Thai women don't look as old as their western or Asian counterparts. This kind of makes it hard for an occidental first-time visitor to understand what he is getting into. I had a webcam call with a hot looking MILF who was in her 40's, looked like her 20's. She has a daughter who was 18, who was helping her run her shop. The daughter looked like she was 10 though she was headed for college. She had a picture of her other daughter, who was 25, but she looked more like 15. You see a potential dilemma for someone new to Thailand?[/QUOTE]Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant. I never asked or checked the age of my companion-to-be. If she looks good (according to my definition of "good" has a bubbly and pleasant attitude, and is willing to provide the services I require, why should I care if she is 25,35 or 45?
Unless you are on a quest to make love to girls of all ages and you are still missing a few figures on your tally sheet to make it complete, would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?
[QUOTE=Syzygies;1813879]I made an even bigger mistake when new to everything 23+ years ago. I took a girl with me to Pattaya. She wasn't even stunning or anything special.[/QUOTE]Last time I was in Pattaya, I took a Soi 6 girl and the next day my Chiang Rai GF came over for a few days.
The fact that there were many thousands of WGs available in Pattaya, did not in the least reduce the fun I had with my GF.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1813965]Haha! Okay, so you are saying that if I do hit Beer Garden (which I understand is a recommended destination, even if just for a beer) I can expect not so attractive girls? Bear in mind, that I'm 58 so most women are younger than me ....[/QUOTE]The beer garden in Bangkok has a lot of older ladies. You may find that some are decent enough for a ST run but others are well past their best days. OTOH you can also find some young ones since it is a freelance place. Every now and then some cuties are in there. It's worth it to stop in one afternoon or evening for a look and a beer. In any case, there are plenty of other places nearby if you don't find something you like.
Same applies to Pattaya's beer garden near the entrance of walking street.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1814023]Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant.
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would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?[/QUOTE]I could not agree more with you Wolvenvacht. I once had a girl (ahem. Woman) who was 42 but she provided me the most intellectually stimulating companionship ever. She was well traveled, well read, reasonable educated and shared interests in music, food, sport and books. And she was a professional yoga teacher. Man! Did she push my buttons or did she push my buttons.
To top it all her body was an absolute marvel. Toned, taut, smooth skin. Not an ounce of extra fat. Fantastic in bed, knew exactly what she was doing, when to take control and when to give in.
Cherry on the cake. She was a great cook too. Stayed with me for 4 days. Such women come along once in a long long time and I cherish such memories!
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1814023]Actually, age (beyond the boundaries set by the law) is totally irrelevant. I never asked or checked the age of my companion-to-be. If she looks good (according to my definition of "good" has a bubbly and pleasant attitude, and is willing to provide the services I require, why should I care if she is 25,35 or 45?
Unless you are on a quest to make love to girls of all ages and you are still missing a few figures on your tally sheet to make it complete, would you refuse to go with a girl if she is actualy 10 year younger (or even older) than her apparent age but otherwise pushes all your buttons?[/QUOTE]Thanks for your input, Mr. Wolvenvacht, but I think you might have misunderstood my concern. I'm not fixated on age at all. As I said, I am 58, which makes most women younger than me, and maturity has given me a great appreciation for a broader range of women. If I come across cute THAI girls who happen to be past their prime, its not a deal breaker with me. But, as you probably know, "mature" working girls in Europe or the Americas are not too attractive in most instances. Some of them will look awful. Hence, the word "mature" throws up a measure of uncertainty.
Regardless of whether a girl is actually 18 - or 28, I am not interested in girls who look like they could be in the same 5th grade class as my son. I don't have that totally sick perv instinct. Hell, my son isn't even interested in the girls in his class, either. And yes, you read that right. I am 58 years old and I have a son in fifth grade. Any surprise you'd meet a cad like me on a mongering site?
But, back to the original question. My concern about age perception is a PRACTICAL one. I understand the "mature" working girls work at a "discount" compared to their youthful counterparts. How do I negotiate properly for their age bracket if I can't discern what their actual age bracket is? On the opposite end of the spectrum, how do I determine if a girl is truly "too young" for ethical and legal reasons? I read a post somewhere (maybe another forum) where a monger walked in a discrete Thai brothel only to find the girls there looking way too young, so he fled. My question simply is about understanding what you are dealing with. But, I think the only way to find out is to experience it for myself, when I make the journey. Some thing can't be explained on internet forums, but I appreciate the feedback from all of you.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1814402]Thanks for your input, Mr. Wolvenvacht, but I think you might have misunderstood my concern. I'm not fixated on age at all. As I said, I am 58, which makes most women younger than me, and maturity has given me a great appreciation for a broader range of women. If I come across cute THAI girls who happen to be past their prime, its not a deal breaker with me. But, as you probably know, "mature" working girls in Europe or the Americas are not too attractive in most instances. Some of them will look awful. Hence, the word "mature" throws up a measure of uncertainty.[/QUOTE]When I used the word "mature" I meant indeed women who look "mature". That doesn't necessarily mean they are ugly or otherwise not fit for being on The Game. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all have our own idea of what is our "ideal" companion. But in the Beergarten you are unlikely to find the younger side of the spectrum.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1814402]
Regardless of whether a girl is actually 18 - or 28, I am not interested in girls who look like they could be in the same 5th grade class as my son. I don't have that totally sick perv instinct. Hell, my son isn't even interested in the girls in his class, either. And yes, you read that right. I am 58 years old and I have a son in fifth grade. Any surprise you'd meet a cad like me on a mongering site?[/QUOTE]I'm close to your age and indeed I do not see any bonus in going with the younger SWs. A good rule of thumb is to add 5 to 10 years to their apparent age to get a working idea of their real age bracket, but as I said before, I find it really irrelevant. The only thing about age is to make sure that you respect the legal age limits, and if you see someone who looks close to 18 years old you are probably still on the safe side. Nevertheless, I give such girls a wide berth as they rarely if ever perform well in bed. A few times I ended up with girls "fresh from the farm" and those were not the best sessions I ever had. On the other hand in a massage shop I ended up with a woman who said she was 45 (so probably she was 50) and we had lots of fun. There wasn't much I could teach her and we both could focus on our pleasure. Anecdotal eveidence of course, but it shows that age is not a true indicator of quality.
[QUOTE=Eszpresszo;1814402]
But, back to the original question. My concern about age perception is a PRACTICAL one. I understand the "mature" working girls work at a "discount" compared to their youthful counterparts. How do I negotiate properly for their age bracket if I can't discern what their actual age bracket is? On the opposite end of the spectrum, how do I determine if a girl is truly "too young" for ethical and legal reasons? I read a post somewhere (maybe another forum) where a monger walked in a discrete Thai brothel only to find the girls there looking way too young, so he fled. My question simply is about understanding what you are dealing with. But, I think the only way to find out is to experience it for myself, when I make the journey. Some thing can't be explained on internet forums, but I appreciate the feedback from all of you.[/QUOTE]In Thailand everything is open to negotiations. Within one establishment there is usual a more or less standard price, say 3000 to 3500 baht for any agogo girl going LT with you. The neigbouring club may be cheaper or more expensive, but again there is probably a "standard" tariff too. Only exceptions seem to be clubs that employ "coyote" or "model agency" girls who will fetch a higher price. But again that price is not age determined.
For freelancers that is different as they are entirely their own boss and they can ask any price they think the market will support. Will "mature" women fetch a lower price than young spinners? Maybe but not necessarily. I all depends on your negotiating skills. And at the end of the month even the young spinners have to pay the rent of their apartment and although they may start with a higher offer, not closing a "high price" deal is still equal to no money for them. But I find such negotiations tedious, just to be able to say that I fucked a girl 30 years my junior.
[QUOTE=Wolvenvacht;1814422]When I used the word "mature" I meant indeed women who look "mature". That doesn't necessarily mean they are ugly or otherwise not fit for being on The Game. After all, beauty is in the eye of the beholder and we all have our own idea of what is our "ideal" companion. But in the Beergarten you are unlikely to find the younger side of the spectrum.[/QUOTE]On the honest side of the game there are some old bats in there. I am 43 and a couple of years ago I dated a 49 year old Thai school teacher and now back in the States I am dating a 46 year old Indian woman. So age is not an issue for me. But BG definitely has some old dragon ladies.
A lot of 30 something FL's hang out in Spasso at the Hyatt Grand. Therefore, if high quality mature girls are what you are after, go to Spasso around 11 pm. All of the girls I have taken out of this bar where between the ages of 32 and 37 except for this one good looking 42 year old girl that I still fondly remember. She was sitting in a booth nursing a glass of wine and looked like legal secretary from a prestigious law firm. She smiled at me as I walked by so I said Hello and sat down next to her. I initially thought she could not be older than 34 and I was amazed when she nonchalantly told me her real age. She was very warm and friendly in the bar booth, if you know what I mean, so I thought what the hell and took her back in my hotel room where she amazed me with how soft her skin was and how everything still held up. 555. Her warm friendly personality in the bar continued over into the bedroom and I still remember how her soft pussy wrapped around my dick and felt real good, so all in all I had a pretty good time with her. She stayed a few hours. After sex we laid together and talked about various things. She showed me pictures of her condominium. The place looked very high class and was stylishly decorated. She excused herself and left around 4 am because she said she did not want her neighbors to see her come home all dressed up in the morning light. I gave her the agreed upon 4000 bt for ST plus I tipped her an extra 500. I had never been with a Thai 40 something. It was a good time, but I did not repeat with her although I could have if I had wanted. I generally prefer girls in the 22 to 26 age range, but variety is usually a very good thing so I have been known to sample older and younger girls occasionally. Ha Ha.
[QUOTE=PpSeeker;1813940]Hey guys posted this in Phuket thread but got no response. Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks.
East coast.
Need some advise.
May seem stupid but I will be visiting Phuket next year and will be staying at the east cost of Phuket.
Only interested in massage parlous and HJ's. Obviously I don't want to travel that 1 h to Patong.
Any suggestions? And what's the protocols?
Please help.
Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks[/QUOTE]You have two choices: Keep on hoping to get an answer to your questiiin, wherever you post it or.
Start RTFF: it will do good to you.
[QUOTE=BionicMan;1814493]You have two choices: Keep on hoping to get an answer to your questiiin, wherever you post it or.
Start RTFF: it will do good to you.[/QUOTE]Everywhere I read is about sex. Not interested in gogogirls, FL's or whatever. Just want a place near my hotel where I can go, relax and unwind with a HJ, not too much to ask?
Just want to see where the best place and nearest would be? Phuket town? Or should I be focusing my efforts on driving all the way to Patong (1 h drive) ?
Apparently the 7-11's and Family Marts don't sell SIM cards anymore (maybe because the mandatory registration takes too much time?) I was redirected to a phone shop at the ground level of Nana Square mall, at the corner of Sukhumvit and Soi 3 (in Bangkok). I bought a Happy Tourist SIM 7-day Package there for 399 Baht.
Later on I noticed they had cut out a small part of the packaging. I checked the DTAC website and found out they cut out the real price: 299 Baht. See [URL]https://www.dtac.co.th/en/prepaid/[/URL].
Did some googling and found out I was not the first to be scammed: [URL]http://www.desiyatri.com/2014/01/thailand-sim-card-scam.html[/URL].
I've always bought my SIM cards at a 7-11 and I've never been scammed. Now that's not possible anymore I will for sure pay more attention.
To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1814983]I checked the DTAC website and found out they cut out the real price: 299 Baht.
To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.[/QUOTE]
299 for 7 days is not a great deal either, you can get a True SIM for 50 baht plus 7 days 3G package for 99 baht + VAT (or 30 days 1.5Gb for 199 + VAT).
Unless you can suggest a specific site, the advice to "order online" does not help much (sometimes offers aimed at wealthy tourists are overpriced). As always to get a good deal simply be aware of the market prices.
Small shops can do the registration for you on the spot too.
[QUOTE=Mogwai;1814983]Apparently the 7-11's and Family Marts don't sell SIM cards anymore (maybe because the mandatory registration takes too much time?).......To avoid scams you can order a SIM card online and pick it up at the airport upon arrival.[/QUOTE]AIS on 4th Floor of Emporium is reliable and fair IMV. Think there was a 79 baht package for a week. With enough data for emails and web while on the go away from WiFi at the hotel.
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