Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Sammon;2452630]If Nagaworld casino and hotel is open and running and if Darling Darling is closed it is no big loss as long as mongering is concerned. IMHO when you go into the club you find stuck up, dolled up, false everything girls who are least bit interested in negotiations. When I stayed there you can easily get girls who are loitering in the hallway much cheaper and better. I have even gone outside and walked around and got girls. There were no restrictions in bringing them in. Most of the girls in Cambodia have some kind of I. D. The girls I got loved to stay all night in nice hotel room and some I have kept for couple of days. Free buffet dinner on the casino floor. All you need to do is go to the concierge and ask for two coupons. Breakfast buffet is comparable to any 5 star hotels all over the world.

Location is far away from riverside clubs but tuk tuk is cheap and plenty at all times.[/QUOTE]Agree with everything you said regarding life as we used to know it Sammon but it's a new world now.

I am on the ground now and living near Nagaworld 1 & 2. I walk past each day and when I tried to enter to use the food court on the lower G floor of Naga 2 the security told me it too was closed.

It is dark and deserted inside. If there is clandestine gambling going on then it's upstairs somewhere and hidden away.

I can't see the scenario that you are reminiscing about recurring for at least 6 months.

Cambodia is opening up its international airport again but not yet to China.

Ironically enough, USA is included in allowable entrants despite the nos in the US.

The kicker is that you need a health certificate not more than 72 hours old (no big deal) but not so easy for guys on a budget to get a 50 K health insurance policy which is also a requirement to get a visa.

I suspect this will be the new norm for international travel going forward.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2452773]Cambodia is opening up its international airport again <snip> The kicker is that you need a health certificate not more than 72 hours old (no big deal) [/QUOTE]Actually, the kicker is that Cambodia requires you to stay in a government designated place (not your own hotel) along with all the other incoming foreigners for 14 days! No way! A nice comfortable hotel I would consider because I'm sure you and Uncle V will send over the hottest girls to my hotel while I'm under quarantine.

The 72 hour health certificate will likely be a given for most SE Asian countries when they reopen. How does one even go about getting that? Say it takes 24 hours to get from Eastern USA to Phnom Penh, then within your last 48 hours in the USA you have to visit a doctor, get test results back, then have your doctor sign a health certificate confirming you do not have COVID? Are COVID test results immediate? What if your flight got delayed (a high possibility during these times) and it took more than 72 hours to get to Phnom Penh, would you be turned away at Customs?

There are already a few flights per day to and from China. Lanmei Airlines for example is still serving Guangzhou, Shenzen, Kunming, and Nanchang. I've bumped into a number of Chinese tourists in the open-not-really-open bars on 136, but of course only a tiny portion of what the number would normally be. But yeah. . . This is going to be a long, long haul till we're back to anything near normal.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2452773]Agree with everything you said regarding life as we used to know it Sammon but it's a new world now.

Ironically enough, USA is included in allowable entrants despite the nos in the US.

The kicker is that you need a health certificate not more than 72 hours old (no big deal) but not so easy for guys on a budget to get a 50 K health insurance policy which is also a requirement to get a visa.

I suspect this will be the new norm for international travel going forward.[/QUOTE]I have been keeping an which countries are relaxing restrictions. I am shocked at the countries who are on the list with the US. What could possibly go wrong?

[URL]https://skift.com/2020/05/20/cambodia-lifts-entry-ban-on-visitors-from-6-nations/[/URL]

14 days in quarantine is a non starter for me. While Cambodia is on my list of places to return to, Vietnam is my primary destination of choice. The other issue is connecting flights through other countries. Cambodia and Vietnam have no direct flights from where I am in North America meaning I would have to connect through Seoul, Taipei, or Beijing. I assume each would have restrictions imposed by those countries even just transiting through. Taipei would be my entry point of choice via EVA Air.

[QUOTE=JimBocohones;2447490]Been around Riverside a couple of nights now. There are bars that are open and there are girls for takeout as well. I was in one place with about 10 girls and with this market you'll get a lot of attention. As you said they kind of looks closed but they're still open. It seems like most of the bars that are open are not on 130 or 136, but on the streets further north, including the streets perpendicular to those. I got one girl with me and gave her $35 for LT. Second night I found another girl but she quoted $50 for ST and $100 for LT which is ridiculous. Could definitely have bargained but she seemed like trouble anyways.[/QUOTE]When girls want 50 dol and up these days she'. S an idiot and the one who pay is a complete idiot. The girl have at least 5 barangs around the world sending her money true her lies and she is also destroyed by dirty China cock. I find so many good girls in shops, street all over, pay nothing just share foods and a great time. After 18 Years I've seen the change from getting respect and nice behavior to cheating, robbing and fooled around by the cheating tuk tuk. I've seen how the girls changed from nice and clean and giving respect to became worst then Pattay scam hookers. Its sad and one day Cambodia will be total running by Chinese and the girls end up as hookers in mafia bordels without any choice, anyway they ask for it. I'm glad that I had a fabulous time from year 2000 to 2012 after that it all went away.

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From Phnom Penh Post Weds May 27.

The Ministry of Health maintains that foreign travellers are allowed to enter Cambodia with a health certificate and must have at least $50,000 in health insurance. Travellers will be tested and must wait for the results from Institut Pasteur du Cambodge (IPC).

The ministry said if one or more passengers are found to be infected with Covid-19, all passengers must be sent into quarantine at a location designated by the Inter-Ministerial Committee to fight against Covid-19.

If all the passengers obtain negative laboratory results, they will be allowed to practice social distancing at home.

(My added comment) Not good news if your inward flight has an infected person on it. EVERYONE has to go to a quarantine centre.

[QUOTE=RedKilt;2454036]From Phnom Penh Post Weds May 27.

If all the passengers obtain negative laboratory results, they will be allowed to practice social distancing at home.

(My added comment) Not good news if your inward flight has an infected person on it. EVERYONE has to go to a quarantine centre.[/QUOTE]Yep. I read that a few days ago someplace. Strange, in the Hun Sen welcomed passengers from a cruise ship that had virus positive passengers aboard and bussed them into the city with no strings attached.

I hear that at least some quarantined pax are being held in the former Inter-Continental Hotel.

PNH has been very quiet the last week or more. Something like 7 arrivals and 4 departures daily. Only an idiot or very very desperate traveler would roll the dice and hope no other pax on the plane tested positive.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2260456]Short answer is yes. I don't go bareback, personally. However, my experience is that if you and your partner is nude and she is on top grinding away, grabs your dick as if to put it inside, bareback is definitely on the table. This, even with a condom plainly visible within arm's reach. I have acquaintances who consistently go bareback without any negotiation or discussion taking place prior to agreement to hook up. I have seen one, single reference here that bareback is very common and is SOP unless the customer does not wish to do so.

SS.[/QUOTE]I confirm you that 100% girls in PP don't use condoms! They even don't ask! I'm a creampie addict! You can't imagine the hundreds girls I creampie in PP and Pattaya and Bkk. Just give them TIP if they ask you condom!

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2454251]Yep. I read that a few days ago someplace. Strange, in the Hun Sen welcomed passengers from a cruise ship that had virus positive passengers aboard and bussed them into the city with no strings attached.

I hear that at least some quarantined pax are being held in the former Inter-Continental Hotel.

PNH has been very quiet the last week or more. Something like 7 arrivals and 4 departures daily. Only an idiot or very very desperate traveler would roll the dice and hope no other pax on the plane tested positive.

SS.[/QUOTE]When Hun Sen allowed the cruise ship in, international travel was still available. The Big Boys, the people supporting the government, were still able to go abroad if shit hit the fan.

That's all gone now, The Cambodian Millionaires have to rely on the Cambodian health care system just like the local farmers. That's a big game changer.

[URL]https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50732611/foreigners-to-be-charged-for-c-19-quarantine-tests/?fbclid=IwAR2o-OLMdJM3XAD4ar9DHqgBHwKkjKtFU6e1XKXjnvot6O93ho0RA6DG5BY[/URL]

[QUOTE=ChristianG;2457691][URL]https://www.khmertimeskh.com/50732611/foreigners-to-be-charged-for-c-19-quarantine-tests/?fbclid=IwAR2o-OLMdJM3XAD4ar9DHqgBHwKkjKtFU6e1XKXjnvot6O93ho0RA6DG5BY[/URL][/QUOTE]Having mongered in Cambodia quite a bit, it is one country I am keeping an eye on and these measures are outrageous. I mean you would really want to have some golden pu $$why there to entertain this.

I would be tempted to risk it, even with the $3000 deposit but the kicker is that if one person on your flight tests positive then your goose is cooked. Who in there right mind would be tempted to roll that dice. Although they are providing a list of charges and fees, they hold all the cards with your $3000 deposit in their hands and if there are any extra charges what can you do about it?

These measure are totally impractical and I can't see the sense in it unless someone really needs to get into Cambodia for a long term stay to reunite with family, work or business. They are definitely not monger friendly measures.

Lets see how long it lasts because the type of folk coming in with these restrictions in place are not the 2 week millionaire type.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2457708]Having mongered in Cambodia quite a bit, it is one country I am keeping an eye on and these measures are outrageous. I mean you would really want to have some golden pu $$why there to entertain this.

I would be tempted to risk it, even with the $3000 deposit but the kicker is that if one person on your flight tests positive then your goose is cooked. Who in there right mind would be tempted to roll that dice. Although they are providing a list of charges and fees, they hold all the cards with your $3000 deposit in their hands and if there are any extra charges what can you do about it?

These measure are totally impractical and I can't see the sense in it unless someone really needs to get into Cambodia for a long term stay to reunite with family, work or business. They are definitely not monger friendly measures.

Lets see how long it lasts because the type of folk coming in with these restrictions in place are not the 2 week millionaire type.[/QUOTE]Monger or not, its not friendly measures for basically anyone.

[QUOTE=JohnnyO;2457708]Having mongered in Cambodia quite a bit, it is one country I am keeping an eye on and these measures are outrageous. I mean you would really want to have some golden pu $$why there to entertain this.

I would be tempted to risk it, even with the $3000 deposit but the kicker is that if one person on your flight tests positive then your goose is cooked. Who in there right mind would be tempted to roll that dice. Although they are providing a list of charges and fees, they hold all the cards with your $3000 deposit in their hands and if there are any extra charges what can you do about it?

These measure are totally impractical and I can't see the sense in it unless someone really needs to get into Cambodia for a long term stay to reunite with family, work or business. They are definitely not monger friendly measures.

Lets see how long it lasts because the type of folk coming in with these restrictions in place are not the 2 week millionaire type.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't risk trying to get into the country either. It isn't just mongers who will say fuck it. Commercial tours are being cancelled also. All travel and tour related businesses are affected. Hotel staff like maids, door men, kitchen workers get laid off. They are among the lowest paid already. Now they are getting any pay. The possibility of a Covid quarantine is enough by itself to cancel my plan for this year. The $3000 "deposit" is likely to be just a down payment; try to get it back. I trust Hun Sen about as far as I can throw him.

SS.

PUBLIC ADVISORY.

Effective on 11 June 2020 and pursuant to a letter from the Ministry of Health dated 11 June 2020, the following updated procedures and fees on COVID-19 testing, quarantine and treatment in public hospitals will be implemented on all arriving foreign passengers in Cambodia:

• Fees for foreign travelers who arrived in Cambodia, while waiting for the release of the COVID-19 test result.

Description Unit and Price.

1. Transport from airport to designated hotel or quarantine centers USD 5. 00/ person / one way.

2. COVID-19 Test (Collection and sending specimen, laboratory, and result) USD 100.00/ time / person.

3. Designated hotel or quarantine centers USD 30.00/ day / person.

4. Three meals (Breakfast, lunch, and dinner) USD 30.00/ day / person.

• Fees for 14-day quarantine at designated hotel or quarantine centers of negative COVID-19 travelers in the same flight or means of transport with a COVID-19 positive passenger.

Description Unit and Price.

1. Transport USD 5. 00/ person / one way.

2. Designated hotel or quarantine centers USD 30.00/ day / person.

3. COVID-19 Test (Collection and sending specimen, laboratory, and result) USD 100.00/ time / person.

4. Three meals (Breakfast, lunch, and dinner) USD 30.00/ day / person.

5. Laundry and cleaning services USD 15.00/ day / person.

6. Medical services (3 health staff for period of quarantine in each center) USD 6. 00/ day / person.

7. Security services (2 persons) USD 3. 00/ day / person.

• Fees for consultation and treatment of a COVID-19 positive patient in public hospitals.

Description Unit and Price.

1. Transport USD 5. 00/ person / one way.

2. COVID-19 Test (Minimum of four times) USD 100.00/ time / person.

3. Room charge in hospital USD 30.00/ day / person.

4. Treatment fee, including medicines USD 150.00 maximum / day / person.

5. Three meals (Breakfast, lunch, and dinner) USD 30.00/ day / person.

6. Laundry service USD 15.00/ day / person.

7. Emergency Will follow the existing fee tariff of the hospital.

8. Consultation and treatment of existing chronic diseases of COVID-19 patient Will follow the existing fee tariff of the hospital.

9. Cremation USD 1,500/ person.

• Health Certificate for COVID-19.

Description Unit and Price.

1. COVID-19 Test USD 100.00/ time / person.

2. Issuance of a Health Certificate USD 30.00/ time / person.

Upon arrival in Cambodia, all foreign nationals have to present their health insurance certificate with a minimum coverage of USD 50,000. 00 and deposit (by cash or credit card) of USD 3,000.00 with designated commercial banks at point of entry, where payment will be deducted for any services during the implementation of health measures. END.

12 June 2020, Phnom Penh.