General Reports

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1360079]I want all pilots to get a big pay increase and more flying hours each month.

Works well for me.[/QUOTE]Chantik,

I really like the first part of your wish list. Not so much the second part. That would mean I would work more and have less time to come and visit you.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1360147]Chantik,

I really like the first part of your wish list. Not so much the second part. That would mean I would work more and have less time to come and visit you.[/QUOTE]More airlines, more planes, more people travelling is good for business.

My experience is that many airline staff (not just Pilots) , have a naughty side.

Pilots often go over 100 hours of flying time per month. And then you hit over-time. And over-time pays well.

We are still trying to organise that first meeting!

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1360145]I can't believe that I am going to do this, but Eddie, really you don't understand why they "will take it out" on the passengers? Then I suspect you have never spent much time working for places that had "issues" with industrial relations. The ONLY thing that management really worries about is the revenue stream. If enough passengers complain about the service, Cathay's reputation takes a hit, passengers book away from Cathay when they can so they don't have to deal with the headaches. This in return means less revenue, ergo gets managements attention.

I suspect if they go on strike, it would be an illegal action and they could dimiss the attendants, or fine their union out of existence. And the "go get another job".

The reality is this is a legal way to "encourage" management to get serious about settling the new contract.

Not fun for anyone, but that is what happens when you squeeze front line employees so hard they push back.[/QUOTE]To Skyrider.

I have been flying with Cathay for over 16 yr about 20 flight a yr from US to HK and Asia, service have been going down hill the last 5 yr and I have complain to customer service manager with no reply at all, they are growing and making alot of profit but is hard for me to change airline Cathay have the most flight and connections for me.

Fast Eddie 48

[QUOTE=Chantik;1360079]I want all pilots to get a big pay increase and more flying hours each month.Works well for me.[/QUOTE]Popular amongst the flying crews? LOL they can't do more than appr 900 flying hrs a year, anyhow. Hope this does not affect your business.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder;1360145]I can't believe that I am going to do this, but Eddie, really you don't understand why they "will take it out" on the passengers? Not fun for anyone, but that is what happens when you squeeze front line employees so hard they push back.[/QUOTE]Good point. Striking will disturb the passengers (and the airline) as they cannot travel with quite some damages. Not smiling will not infringe any rule (on principle) , they will not be unpolite or refrain from servicing or whatever. They simply don't smile. Still it will be noticed and if that becomes persistent people will either sympathize or start to move to a smiling airline.

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1360257]Good point. Striking will disturb the passengers (and the airline) as they cannot travel with quite some damages. Not smiling will not infringe any rule (on principle) , they will not be unpolite or refrain from servicing or whatever. They simply don't smile. Still it will be noticed and if that becomnes persistent people willeither simapthize or start to move to a smiling airline.[/QUOTE]So let's hope that the non-smile doesn't freeze on their faces when they get back to normal. And they should of course temporarily suspend it when visiting Chantik.

[QUOTE=Tiger 888;1360260]So let's hope that the non-smile doesn't freeze on their faces when they get back to normal. And they should of course temporarily suspend it when visiting Chantik.[/QUOTE]For whateer reason I have a feeling Chantik can put a smile on a sad face. At least she does often here, go imagine in real life.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1360079]I want all pilots to get a big pay increase and more flying hours each month.[/QUOTE]Sadly for you Chantik, this current fight is between the flight attendants and CX. The pilots are not involved (yet).

Anyways, reminds me of an old joke.

What does the wife of a CX pilot do to her cu*t an hour before she has sex?

She drops him off at the airport.

Cheers

[QUOTE=Bionicman;1360254]Popular amongst the flying crews? LOL they can't do more than appr 900 flying hrs a year, anyhow. Hope this does not affect your business.[/QUOTE]Pilots want to hit the more than 100 hrs per month because the overtime is Big. Very Big.

For example a pilot flying Canada to HK. Gets three trops per month.

But once they hit 900 hours for the year. They must stop.

It's not just pilots that are naughty. Flight crew do well.

Cathay have been delivering a 'no smile and no service, service, for years already.

Its hard to have any sympathy for those ice queens. Go Singapore airlines for funtimes.

The reports are saying that Escape won't allow ladies to enter after 1. Am.

And if ladies leave with a client, they can't come back that night.

I will check out the 1. Am rule next week.

[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48; 1359838]Cathay Pacific union and flight attended are planning a no smile and service strike to passenger over a dispute on salary increase over the holiday, don't understand why they are taking it out on the customer just go on stirke or get another job if they think they are under paid.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I fly unites when I fly, I'm used to no smiling flight attendants. Cathays will adjust.

All these talk about Cathay pacific brings me to my flight next weekend via Cathay pacific from LA to Hong Kong. Any suggestions? Its finally the holidays! Finally, I can have a break.

Is there any asian girls or white girls available? Any advice is very much appreciated, thanks.

[QUOTE=Sky Ryder; 1360145]I suspect if they go on strike, it would be an illegal action and they could dimiss the attendants, or fine their union out of existence.[/QUOTE]This is nothing new. Old HK hands will recall this happens annually in the run up to Chinese New year. Remember 1995 when they were camped outside Fat Pangs house? The union isn't just one union, its a Cabin Crew, a Pilots and then a Ground staff union.

They can't be dismissed for taking strike action and Cathay knows it, HK has reasonbly good employee protection these days.

Pilots who went on strike in 2003 and were dismissed were awarded how much recently after Court of Appeals ruled in their favour?

Lockhart Road was full of Santa's in the late afternoon. Think they were partying at Coyote.

Got very noisy, road blocked by Santa's, Police called and most of them moved on.