Phnom Penh

[QUOTE=Spider99;2485968]I've had a few trips down to PP the last few weeks and had fun most of the nights. I found the girls on 136 to be hit and miss. But found a great little hottie on 130. The bars are full on both 136 and 130. If you're looking for a great hotel I would suggest Baitong hotel on 282 street. I'm now back in Siem Reap and wondering where to find some action.[/QUOTE]Hit and miss doesn't describe it here in Siem. Its miss, miss, miss, miss, hit, o my god that should have been a miss.

There have been some cuties in the Harbour on music nights as well as the Laundry Bar. I haven't been in X Bar since it reopened, I hear its slim pickins. There are tons of meth skanks near Draft Bar on Sok San. Your best deal right now is the KTVs, but you need a driver you can trust if you don't scooter yourself (which I don't).

Did ya see any Russian chicks?

[QUOTE=Spider99;2485968]I've had a few trips down to PP the last few weeks and had fun most of the nights. I found the girls on 136 to be hit and miss. But found a great little hottie on 130. The bars are full on both 136 and 130. If you're looking for a great hotel I would suggest Baitong hotel on 282 street. I'm now back in Siem Reap and wondering where to find some action.[/QUOTE]Did you take a young butterfly to your room at Baitong? Any issues?

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2492739]Did you take a young butterfly to your room at Baitong? Any issues?[/QUOTE]Baitong Hotel is the former Goldiana, a former classic and much loved legendary place.

Goldiana has now been destroyed by this glass monstrosity.

I can't imagine why a monger would want to stay way down there in BKK, well away from the night-life areas of Street 130 and other riverside places.

At least there are some reasonable eating places around St 282.

[QUOTE=Philosophus;2492739]Did you take a young butterfly to your room at Baitong? Any issues?[/QUOTE]I had no issues.

So with vaccines being approved and produced has any timeline been laid out or even talks for tourism? I am not big on the vaccine idea but if it gets me into SEA I am onboard. Was supposed to go to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam for a month this spring but Thailand shut down the day I was supposed to arrive. I am planning to go the end of September 2021. My flight voucher expires Dec. 2021. Any thoughts of the possibility of this happening would be appreciated. My itinerary will be Cebu for two weeks to visit friends and family of SO and then 10 days solo in PP or where ever I can get into.

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2505923]So with vaccines being approved and produced has any timeline been laid out or even talks for tourism? ... Any thoughts of the possibility of this happening would be appreciated. My itinerary will be Cebu for two weeks to visit friends and family of SO and then 10 days solo in PP or where ever I can get into.[/QUOTE]Lots of speculation circulating with no firm answers. My money says Cambo and Thailand will be open within the year to tourists including visa on arrival. That is, assuming that the vaccine is widely available and arriving passengers can show proof of vaccination. I've read news reports of having passports issued with confirmation of vaccination included and also documents being issued which would be accepted by the airlines (and the appropriate immigration authorities involved). Lots and lots of administrative protocols will need to be agreed upon by the governments and air carriers. But there is so much money at stake it should be doable in time for a trip sometime in 2021.

SS.

Those who have been vaccinated and get covid can still pass it on to those who haven't been vaccinated. So needs 100% compliance from all. So don't count ya chickens yet. There's a way to go before normality returns.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2506228]Lots of speculation circulating with no firm answers. My money says Cambo and Thailand will be open within the year to tourists including visa on arrival. That is, assuming that the vaccine is widely available and arriving passengers can show proof of vaccination. I've read news reports of having passports issued with confirmation of vaccination included and also documents being issued which would be accepted by the airlines (and the appropriate immigration authorities involved). Lots and lots of administrative protocols will need to be agreed upon by the governments and air carriers. But there is so much money at stake it should be doable in time for a trip sometime in 2021.

SS.[/QUOTE]I read that IATA the governing body for airlines and manufacturers is working on the protocols for vaccination proof. I work in the aviation industry so I am confident they will work out a process that is fairly full proof. They were established to standardize the airline industry globally. If no one opens up by December I fully plan on lawyering up and getting my money back. I went to Brazil in October and am returning for New Years. While Rio is a lot of fun nothing will beat a room full of Asian spinners, for me anyway.

[QUOTE=Berrys66;2506249]Those who have been vaccinated and get covid can still pass it on to those who haven't been vaccinated. So needs 100% compliance from all. So don't count ya chickens yet. There's a way to go before normality returns.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your reply. I respect your opinion and understand the importance of caution. As this has played out we have seen mass hysteria and information that flies in the face of all known medical history. I have come to the conclusion this is nothing more than a political ploy to assert more control over the masses. I have known many people who have caught "it" and the only one who died was on death's door step already. "It" is spreading around my area and everyone I have spoken to said it is like a bad cold. All the hype and fear to me is just a new boogie man. Bioterrorism is what I would call it. Use a disease to hold the world hostage, take away freedoms and assert control. I think our saving grace will be greed. At some point industry leaders will assert their desperation on political leaders and things will ease. I am being patient but I believe those losing the most will run out of patience sooner rather than later. Hope that wasn't too political just my take on things. Thanks stay safe.

Any action in PP right now?

[QUOTE=LoveLongTime;2506320]I have come to the conclusion this is nothing more than a political ploy to assert more control over the masses. I have known many people who have caught "it" and the only one who died was on death's door step already. "It" is spreading around my area and everyone I have spoken to said it is like a bad cold. All the hype and fear to me is just a new boogie man. Bioterrorism is what I would call it. Use a disease to hold the world hostage, take away freedoms and assert control. I think our saving grace will be greed.[/QUOTE]Spot on. BTW, increase in the death toll in the US this year (which some people say is caused by "it") is about the same as the increase in suicides and ODs.

Suicide rate seems to have tripled this year. ODs have doubled.

Has anyone returned to PP via PHN since the new Immigration rules were put in place? My main questions surround self isolation and the 2 k USD deposit.

I understand that if you test negative you go in to self isolation. If I stayed in a hotel on Street 136 would they know if I snuck out of my room for food or to a bar across the street for 5 minutes to grab a girl or have one of my girls come to my room? How am I being tracked in self isolation?

Anyone hear of any stories where guys have had issues recovering their 2 k when they leave Cambodia?

[QUOTE=BananaBoi;2516219]Has anyone returned to PP via PHN since the new Immigration rules were put in place? My main questions surround self isolation and the 2 k USD deposit.

I understand that if you test negative you go in to self isolation. If I stayed in a hotel on Street 136 would they know if I snuck out of my room for food or to a bar across the street for 5 minutes to grab a girl or have one of my girls come to my room? How am I being tracked in self isolation?

Anyone hear of any stories where guys have had issues recovering their 2 k when they leave Cambodia?[/QUOTE]For BB and others I highly recommend visiting this facebook group. [URL]https://www.facebook.com/groups/333901840112789[/URL] The administrators / mods are quite up to date on the rules / regs pertaining to entering the country at this time; who is and is not allowed; quarantine situation. Many members of the group have shared their experience in navigating this clusterfuck.

To the point, Street 136 hotels have not been identified as those housing arriving pax; in fact, you don't get a choice. You are assigned a bus with other pax and it take you to your hotel where you are quarantined for 14 days.

SS.

[QUOTE=SamSanuk;2516323]To the point, Street 136 hotels have not been identified as those housing arriving pax; in fact, you don't get a choice. You are assigned a bus with other pax and it take you to your hotel where you are quarantined for 14 days.[/QUOTE]OK this differs from what I read on World Nomad, last updated on Dec. 24. They say you self isolate at their own accommodation if you test negative. "Anyone who tests positive upon arrival will be quarantined for 14 days at designated facilities. Travelers who test negative must self-isolate at their own accommodation. ".

Covid is for real. Stop hallucinating, fellas. Government control nonsense talk is awful. Vaccine is coming. 2nd half of 2021 at the latest visa on arrival will be available for those with proof of vaccination from credible countries. Such says my intel. Situation for the girls who frequented the bars is dire. Everbody has enough to eat, but the easy tickling exciting slow motion night life has gone, and so has the income. Remittals to family in province dries up. Everybody worse off. Yet many to few are using the time productively to collect the trash, remodel, learn English etc. Cambodia is in a funk.