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[QUOTE=FineDay; 1205344]I hope I was able to provide answers to some of you scratching your heads thinking,

'Hmmm. I wonder why they prefer Japanese and Korean guys, even though I have a bigger dick. '[/QUOTE]Points well taken. I get the too big complaint and also the opposite where the girls only come with me and not others. Hence I like star fish

It is interesting to me that many guys on this post have an issue with penis size. And a lot of assumptions are made about Asian men. To be specific the stereotype that all Asian men have small penises and that women prefer large penises. Have many white guys on this post been exposed to Asian penises? It bewilders me that fairly intelligent men think their going to fuck a women into being into them. Women are not men, its more emotional with them. And as far as sex is concerned most women do not orgasm through penetration its clitoral stimulation that allows most women to orgasm. So the question has been asked or the subject has been approached that pinay prefer Koreans and Japanese and for some reason that is considered strange? Silly thing is that most men on this forum prefer Asian women over their counter parts, yet it is strange that a pinay may just like Asians too? I'm not Asian and I don't have a small penis but I live around many Koreans. What I have noticed is that Koreans both male and female are very fashionable people, they tend to have well paying careers, drive nice cars and live in expensive houses. Now I'm sure this isn't all Koreans but it seems to me that a women, bar girl or other would prefer those things over my above average penis.

[QUOTE=Mr Enternational;1205056]Very true indeed Ras. My ex in BKK always used to say how she wanted to get married and go to the USA. I always told her that I was not getting married and I prefer to live in Thailand. On the other hand, there is an ex sex worker from Rio who I used to deal with. She just got married and moved to the rural southeast USA about a week ago. She says that there is nothing there (she doesn´t speak English and no one there speaks Portuguese) and she really hates it and asks me what she should do. I just laugh and laugh because she wanted out of Brazil and into the USA and that is what she got, but it was not what she expected.[/QUOTE]Mr Enter,

Brilliant point Enternational. I don't think many people really get this. I have met many Pinay in the US, virtually everyone one of them is miserable. They miss their family so much they almost can't function. They feel victimized by almost everything including all the guys trying to get in their pants, the fast pace of life, high cost of living, lack of respect for their education, high crime rate / incidence of violence, totally shitty way they are treated by white women, and the list goes on forever.

I have been dating a really great girl in Manila. She lived in the west for a number of years, had a great job, friends. Etc. But the truth was she just didn't feel at home. Now she is back in Manila, she has had a taste of the money and lifestyle elsewhere and she is forced to deal with living in her home country and working like a dog to make no money or live overseas and be miserable.

I think anyone that is seriously considering takikng one of these girls to their home country should consider wherher she could handle it there? It is a big question and probably more relevant than will she run off with the paperboy.

[QUOTE=FineDay; 1205344]"Besides who would want to be stuck with 3 inches life long. LOL.

With apologies to Japanese."

My remark:

You honkies just make me LMAO,

Trying to justify why you always end up with the ugliest of the bunch while Japanese / Korean guys take the hotties.[/QUOTE]Nice report Fineday. I appreciate you having the courage to turn the spotlight on the whiteguys. Since I am white, kind of fat and maybe some other things you mentioned. I will take the criticsm and try to learn from your candid opinion. Having been in A / C last weekend I can honetly say there were some fat mother fucking white boys there. One guy came into the restaurant, ordered almost everything on the menu with a coke zero to drink. This guy was so fat he could barely reach the table around his fat belly. I wanted to say to him "you ordering a coke zero and thinking it will help your weight is like throwing a deck chair off the Titanic and saying now it won't sink."

But seriously the thing about paying too much is very debatable. If someone pays half the price as you and gets the same thing. Who is the fool?

Also, I notice you have only posted once? Does this mean you are a regular member with lots of contributions to your credit and you created a new identity to give this possibly imflamatory report. Or did you just decide to post for the first time because you were sick of the ridiculous cutdowns about asians having little ones? Either way I appreciate your inteligence and your opinion so I hope you post more. I would love to see some pics of your ladies!

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1205598]To be specific the stereotype that all Asian men have small penises and that women prefer large penises. Have many white guys on this post been exposed to Asian penises? It bewilders me that fairly intelligent men think . snipped[/QUOTE]I think it was me who kicked off this "korean small penis" discussion. My complaint was that prostitutes who only go out with korean customers get trained to believe that sex means 3x3x3. Thats great for them (easy job!) but not very good for me. I have met several of these "korean client only" girls, and having sex with them was an absolutely crap experience. Usually involving lots of complaints about size of my penis, long list of stuff they don't do, and complaints I haven't finished yet after 4 minutes.

As for what size is best, it really depends on the girl you are with.. I met girls who I couldnt have sex with at all cause their vagina was just too small and it would be ripping and bleeding at an attempt to have intercourse.. and also girls who felt very loose after having delivered several babies.. there is no perfect penis size, its about finding a good fit. For me, girls who are about 5'6-5'8 in height are usually the best candidates for being a "good fit"

Guys, all this chatter about penis size, white guys, Korean & Japanese is pointless. The bottom line for these girls is return: the most money in the shortest time possible. Everything else, including penis size and ethnicity is incidental. Return also accounts for the dominance of certain monger groups at any mongering destination (Koreans in Manila, Black Americans in Rio in the early 2000s, White guys in Kenya, white guys in Colombia, and the list goes one). I believe the Koreans are currently popular in Manila primarily because of the economics.

In my experience I have heard of all kinds of stuff: I don't like white guys, they smell; I don't like black guys, they fuck too hard and long; I don't like Asians, they have small penis etc. For me its all crap. Most will say anything that will maximize their return depending on the audience.

Now that we have that cleared up, can we get back to talking about the cuties in Manila.

[QUOTE=Devils 1;1205671]But seriously the thing about paying too much is very debatable. If someone pays half the price as you and gets the same thing. Who is the fool?[/QUOTE]Devils has raised an interesting cultural point, I think. The following is all opinion, nothing more.

I've used the 'hammer' example before. To recap: Two guys buy a hammer to do some short nailing work around the house. One guy pays more than the other. When I see one guy has paid $30, while they other guy paid $10, for roughly the same thing, for some reason I think the first guy was somehow just not awake, or did something wrong, or was not paying attention to his shopping, when purchasing. Maybe he was just not in the mood to shop around for a good deal? Maybe he got a 'nicer' hammer? Who cares? Either way, what really DOES go through my mind is: sucker. I don't know why this occurs in my head. Maybe its my midwest upbringing.

Back to Devil's example. I see two men walking down the street (I will stay away from the asian / white thing for a moment here). One gent has a sold '7' on his arm. Pretty, but not model quality. The other gent has a '9' on his arm, model-quality. Both gents seem happy. From appearances sake (only appearance), one might assume that the '9' is costing her gent considerably more. Seems reasonable. However, in my mind (and only there), for some reason, I tend to think of that gent the same way as the gent with the expensive hammer: sucker. I don't know why that goes thru my head, it just does.

Getting back to the asian/white thing, the same thing goes thru my mind. I see a korean guy with a hottie. Its not a penis-size issue. I've heard girls make the same comments as previously posted. White guys don't pay/tip as well, etc. Does not matter the race to me, what I see in my mind when I the korean with a '9', is the "appearance" of overpaying (based on AC girl's comments): sucker. Its possible he's not giving her anything unusual, I don't know him from adam. And its possible he's doing what many AC girls have told me: bought her LD's, barfine her, take her for drinks only, turn her loose without sex, and hand her p2000 for tip. Either way, in my mind: sucker. Same goes for white guy with a '9', I tend to think: sucker. I don't know why. There is no justification in my mind for paying a lot of money for a girl. I've heard lots of them:

* She's hot (move on fella, plenty of those). * Great performer (move on fella, plenty of those; you didn't know that when you bought her 3 LD's). * She refused to go for less (move on fella, plenty who will). * I'm rich, the money is small for me (me too, that's a weak excuse; you look 'sucka' for overpaying & driving up price).

Its different when you talk to guys in AC, maybe catching them at Kokomo's. When they talk, its no longer an appearance thing. When he says he had a hottie last night, paid the barfine, and tipped her 500, it seems fine. On the other hand, when he says he got all caught up in how agog he was over her looks, bought her 4 LD's, and tipped her the amount of the barfine: sucker. "So f*cking hot she was worth it!" Really? Back to Devil's: who's the fool now? Did you fail to notice the other 8 hotties in the bar? Or the bar next door?

The above is all opinion.

I've used the 'hammer' example before. To recap: Two guys buy a hammer to do some short nailing work around the house. One guy pays more than the other. When I see one guy has paid $30, while they other guy paid $10, for roughly the same thing, for some reason I think the first guy was somehow just not awake, or did something wrong, or was not paying attention to his shopping, when purchasing. Maybe he was just not in the mood to shop around for a good deal? Maybe he got a 'nicer' hammer? Who cares? Either way, what really DOES go through my mind is: sucker. I don't know why this occurs in my head. Maybe its my midwest upbringing.

And this is why manufacturing jobs are going to China, $10 Hammers. LOL

[QUOTE=FineDay; 1205344]Here's what I wrote a few days ago regarding the issue on the forum of "the other site".

I guess it would not be a good idea to include a link to my original post since "the other site" is in direct competition with this one.

It was in response to someone's post saying:

"Besides who would want to be stuck with 3 inches life long. LOL.

With apologies to Japanese."

My remark:

You honkies just make me LMAO,

Trying to justify why you always end up with the ugliest of the bunch while Japanese / Korean guys take the hotties.

Having been to the Philippines more than 30 times for business and pleasure and having spent my share of time with pros, semipros and amateurs

In manila, cebu and some other cities,

Here's what they tell me (in no particular order) :

1. White guys stink, they smell.

(I've heard this complaint from many girls. If good anti-perspirants and / or deodorants are.

Not readily available in the Philippines, take them from your hometown or ask your friends to send them to you, seriously)

2. Japanese / Korean guys are generally younger.

3. White guys' dicks are too big. It hurts.

(Do you know why white guys have big dicks? Because white gals have big holes. It's as simple as that.)

4. Japanese / Korean are cleaner, they dress better, neater.

5. White guys are too fat.

6. Japanese / Korean guys stay in better hotels.

7. White guys only take me to cheap restaurants.

(Come on guys, if you're going to take a girl (even a hooker) out to eat, go somewhere nice. Don't just go to a local food stall.)

8. Japanese / Korean guys are less likely to carry STDs.

(Yes, even Filipino pros know that AIDS is almost nonexistent in Japan and Korea.)

9. White guys don't believe what I say. They tend to think that we're all scammers and liars.

And last but not least,

10. Japanese / Korean guys pay better. White guys are too cheap.

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Now, these shouldn't come as huge surprises, really.

There were some other interesting reasons like "White guys talk too much" or "White guys fart a lot" but I've only heard them from one or two girls, so they couldn't make the list.

I hope I was able to provide answers to some of you scratching your heads thinking,

'Hmmm. I wonder why they prefer Japanese and Korean guys, even though I have a bigger dick. '[/QUOTE]I think dick size is proportional to the size of the man! It's as simple as that in most cases. What makes you think you're going to have a big dick if you're under 5'5 in any race or ethnicity? Why makes you think someone over 6 feet is going to have a small dick? Also, from what I noticed on my trips and on this website, most of the younger white males are cheap when they monger. I'm not saying everyone is but my man Fineday has a point.

I believe it was initially coined by Gloria Steinem.

[QUOTE=Jbiz979;1204768]Hahaha. Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac my friend.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Devils 1; 1205666]Mr Enter,

Brilliant point Enternational. I don't think many people really get this. I have met many Pinay in the US, virtually everyone one of them is miserable. They miss their family so much they almost can't function. They feel victimized by almost everything including all the guys trying to get in their pants, the fast pace of life, high cost of living, lack of respect for their education, high crime rate / incidence of violence, totally shitty way they are treated by white women, and the list goes on forever.

II think anyone that is seriously considering takikng one of these girls to their home country should consider wherher she could handle it there.[/QUOTE]Maybe ever since I had the luxury of not having to live in Europe or the US, I couldn't help but wonder what the attraction with US or UK etc was.

Arriving in Heathrow or Los Angeles is like a third world experience (on most recent arrival in UK. Sign at heathrow said " nearest toilets are a 20 minute walk, we apologise blah blah " ). Both countries have a high tax structure, both countries (in general) have high rates of crime, both countries have a cosmopolitan environment but everyone sticks to their own racial groups. And neither country has that many redeeming feture except perhaps good scenery in some places. Now if you are 21 and didn't graduate and are living in Pateros or a Tondo slum and you have something about you, then of course you aspire to what you think is The Great Escape. But for me, niether US, UK are lands of milk and honey.

I often tell girls how it is in both countries and they look as though I've told them tht Santa Claus isn't real or that the Tooth Fairy was really your Mum all along. Sorry to shatter your illusions ladies.

[QUOTE=Henryv;1205789]I believe it was initially coined by Gloria Steinem.[/QUOTE]It was a question I knew the answer to. Just my poor sense of humor. Steinem = Can't Understand Normal Thinking.

Do the acronym for that

Just to add some technical mumbo jumbo to the discussion.

Much of a man's penis remains in his body when it is erect.

There is a muscle which joins the penis to the pubic bone.

The muscle in Asian men is shortest, which holds more of their penis inside their body, which means that less is visible. And the shorter muscle means that their penis stands close to their body when erect, that is, it is upright.

The muscle in black Americans is the longest, meaning that more of their penis is visible when it is erect. And it also means that their erections tend to point downwards.

Caucasian men have middle length muscles, meaning more than asians, but less than black men stand out from their body. And their erections tend to stand straight out.

So guys with shorter penises can take solace in the fact that theirs is probably not so much shorter, but their muscle is tighter and shorter.

It is a simple operation to get the muscle nicked, so that it is not so tight, and the penis sticks out further when it is erect.

Another useless tit bit of information.

G

[QUOTE=Gangles;1205861]The muscle in Asian men is shortest, which holds more of their penis inside their body, which means that less is visible. And the shorter muscle means that their penis stands close to their body when erect, that is, it is upright.[/QUOTE]I'd not heard this explanation before, but it makes some sense. I once had a Korean AMP worker tell me that Korean penises are smaller "but always hard as a stick, and sometimes it really hurts."

I am bemused by this discussion.

As a long-standing disciple of biological science and particularly evolutionary biology, I am at a loss to even begin to understand what possible evolutionary pressures could have accrued to the 3 groups that Gangles identified in his post as having "different sized penis muscles" (Asians (incidentally, this is a HUGE group); Caucasians and Black Americans). I am trying to imagine which group is best advantaged by these extraordinary physiological adaptations.

Surely you are "taking the mickey" (having a joke) out of us all mate? Using "asians' as a descriptor is meaningless. As I said above, "Asia" and "asians" is an incredibly broad description and defies easy compartmentalization. Asia includes chinese, mongolians, indians, pakistanis, thais, vietnamese, cambodians, laos, malays, pinoys etc etc. . . . and I am just using their country descriptors and not their ethnic groups.

By black Americans I assume you also include black Africans, or has the few hundred years of relocation to America under the slave trade already produced a genetic difference?

Anyway, my interest in this topic has now diminished and I don't think I care about reading anything more about dick size, because all that matters to me is mine.