American Politics

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2688068]No wonder you guys voted for the Orange Buffoon. You can't tell up from down, back from front or truth from fiction.

You believe that everything good is Republican and everything bad is Democratic and yet you accuse Democrats of the same type of thinking. How weird is that, eh? When Republican politicians, almost to a person, have vowed to block virtually every legislative act proposed by legislators of the Democratic persuasion. Going back to when Obama was President. To them, it doesn't make one iota of difference if the legislation would help the US or its citizens because to your pols, if it is a Democratic proposal, it is BS. Voting rights bill? Blocked. Alternative proposal? None. .[/QUOTE]LOL. Absolutely not. GW Bush's war on terror and the PRISM data base and assault on civil rights was a travesty. Greg Abbott slowing trucks at the border and making prostitution a felony were examples of horrible legislation. And I did not like Trump being the center of EVERY conversation the four years he was in office.

But can you do the same? Hell no. The latest is Glenn Greenwald's piece on how the CIA and Deep State control should be shocking to all Americans. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greenwald-former-intel-officials-citing-russia-say-big-tech-monopoly-power-vital[/URL].

James Clapper should be in jail for perjury when asked if the NSA was spying on Americans but now he is on MSNBC collecting a check, saying Hunter Biden's laptop was classic Russian disinformation, and this is the Democrat Manifesto: Republicans do not deserve civil rights and neither do white men. We can suspend the Constitution if someone is Republican or someone goes against the narrative.

Hell, we just had one pro-freedom decision the other day: lifting the mask mandate, something celebrated by pilots, flight attendants, and passengers. And here comes the Biden administration and CDC, oh hell no, we are not going to have our authority under mined. And the excuse was that it was a TRUMP judge. How did wearing a stupid useless fucking mask become a partisan issue?

You say the Republicans are devoid of ideas. Oh, hell no. Democrats say black lives matter; we say all lives matter, and you call us racist. We want an end to the never ending assault on civil rights to end. We want censorship to end.

And we want equal punishment under the law. Was Hillary Clinton charged after breaking the law? Fuck no. Has Hunter Biden been charged with a FARA violation like Manafort was? Hell no. Was Hiliary's campaign chair, Podesta prosecuted? Hell no. Gee, I wonder why.

And you are after Gaetz and mocking him? Has he been charged with anything? The Deep state had on problem trashing his reputation but charges? We are still waiting on that.

To be clear, I think Trump is the only guy who will make the DDOJ into the DOJ again. What I saw with GW Bush and Karl Rove was turning the DOJ into the RDOJ, and I did not like that either but you dumb Dems have literally been cheering on bullshit convictions and destruction of innocent until proven guilty. As long as someone is or votes Republican, he might as well be a criminal.

You are the ones out of ideas, and that is why you have to rig the justice system, the press, and the elections.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2687923]Please provide a link for me saying my "wealth was created "solely" by your (my) voting Democrat and not your (my) individual actions. Those are your words", and in its full context.[/QUOTE]Are you fucking kidding me? You posted the creation of your wealth was "solely" due your voting Democrat and it was. I quoted it at the top of my post.

You worked at a university? Let me guess you got tenure and the ability to keep your job no matter how you performed. Your real estate wealth was made by housing inflation made possible by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That those two institutions went belly up without tax payer support matters little to you. You literally profited off the ridiculous premise that FM and FF were allowed to hand out larger mortgages in California. Hell, California, thanks to Democrats, had the worst lending policies in the whole fucking USA. Illegals with minimum wage incomes were getting $750,000 mortgages, and there is little doubt you profited off of that.

Then you profited off the education racket promising students that they were going to cash in on their degrees. How many got scammed on that count? Your paycheck was fattened on the backs of the dumb saps who got massive unsecured loans that could not be jettisoned even in bankruptcy. It was not even pigs like you teaching but those retiring. My God, do you know what property taxes are in Cabo San Lucas Mexico? It is $300 for a $300,000 home. That is how much people who pay for property today are getting scammed supporting old farts like you. Only in the Democratic world of education can someone get a job where they cannot be fired, do a typically worthless job for 20 years, and retire on a $100,000+ a year pension like you did. What did you "teach" worthy of millions in pension funds?

When I went to school in Texas in the 80's, tuition was $300 a semester. WTF happened there?

And someone much wiser than myself coined the phrase, "There is no teaching, only learning."

I loved my history teacher from Spain who got here and was honest about tenure. He thought tenure was the biggest scam he had ever heard of. He told me, "Elvis, the only way I can get fired is if I rape the dean's wife in front of the Hallmark Card display."

And then I found out teachers have their own little carve out with social security. While everyone else has their SS funds given to the USA government and invested in low yield T bills and bonds, you all get the freedom to invest in other areas with much higher yields. That is the Democratic model of fairness.

So Eih, I completely agree with you. All your wealth is due "solely" to who you voted for and what a sad thing that is to be true. You said it and you are 100% right to say it.

Hell if I had been as handsomely paid off by the Democrats as you were, I would be screaming to vote Dem as much as you are.

But hey maybe all the votes went for Trump:

[URL]https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1517124616149417984[/URL]

Like I said, this is not proof that the election was rigged, but we all know it was.

Here: [URL]https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1517149563953373186[/URL].

Prediction: Dumb Dems attack the person narrating the video and not the video. Again, it proves nothing.

[QUOTE=Xpartan;2688363]LOL, they still don't understand what impeachment is.[/QUOTE]As an instructor, I was always reminded.

That you can't teach those who are unwilling (to learn).

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2688256]How many Google searches for "penis size" did you have to do before you found that?[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.rt.com/news/554088-gender-ideologies-imposed-children/?fbclid=IwAR0rMERV71aPe03XPJEwSRv-jfmiVD0laW2lG1UVW8swMRL-ru9ph59CxkI[/URL]

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688586]Are you fucking kidding me? You posted the creation of your wealth was "solely" due your voting Democrat and it was. I quoted it at the top of my post.

You worked at a university? Let me guess you got tenure and the ability to keep your job no matter how you performed. Your real estate wealth was made by housing inflation made possible by Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That those two institutions went belly up without tax payer support matters little to you. You literally profited off the ridiculous premise that FM and FF were allowed to hand out larger mortgages in California. Hell, California, thanks to Democrats, had the worst lending policies in the whole fucking USA. Illegals with minimum wage incomes were getting $750,000 mortgages, and there is little doubt you profited off of that.

Then you profited off the education racket promising students that they were going to cash in on their degrees. How many got scammed on that count? Your paycheck was fattened on the backs of the dumb saps who got massive unsecured loans that could not be jettisoned even in bankruptcy. It was not even pigs like you teaching but those retiring. My God, do you know what property taxes are in Cabo San Lucas Mexico? It is $300 for a $300,000 home. That is how much people who pay for property today are getting scammed supporting old farts like you. Only in the Democratic world of education can someone get a job where they cannot be fired, do a typically worthless job for 20 years, and retire on a $100,000+ a year pension like you did. What did you "teach" worthy of millions in pension funds?.[/QUOTE]I see you didn't provide even one link for this thing you claim I said so many times because you can't, there isn't one.

Uh, no, I didn't work at a university. I was a student at a university and still have friends from those days who were also merely students there. Those were the long time university "chums" I was referring to.

So you might have just broken a Personal Best record for the longest, most detailed and labor intensive reply based on 100% inaccurate, misunderstood non information on the forum.

Impressive.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688579]LOL. Absolutely not. GW Bush's war on terror and the PRISM data base and assault on civil rights was a travesty. Greg Abbott slowing trucks at the border and making prostitution a felony were examples of horrible legislation. And I did not like Trump being the center of EVERY conversation the four years he was in office.

But can you do the same? Hell no. The latest is Glenn Greenwald's piece on how the CIA and Deep State control should be shocking to all Americans. [URL]https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/greenwald-former-intel-officials-citing-russia-say-big-tech-monopoly-power-vital[/URL].

James Clapper should be in jail for perjury when asked if the NSA was spying on Americans but now he is on MSNBC collecting a check, saying Hunter Biden's laptop was classic Russian disinformation, and this is the Democrat Manifesto: Republicans do not deserve civil rights and neither do white men. We can suspend the Constitution if someone is Republican or someone goes against the narrative.[/QUOTE]I don't know which is worse; that you spent time writing this garbage or that you actually believe that what you wrote.

You spent an entire paragraph on masks defending the power of a judge to make public health policy. I can see this playing out for you: Your doctor says that you need an operation but you tell him that you are going to ask your mechanic if you really need one. Or you mechanic says that you need new brakes but you tell him that you are going to ask your accountant if you really need them. You asked "How did wearing a stupid useless fucking mask become a partisan issue?" Well, first off, if you believe that masks are useless, you are an idiot. Not one responsible scientist says that. Of course you can find morons in the medical profession who say that but notice that I used the word "responsible". Who made wearing masks partisan? The Orange Buffoon did, that's who. You know, the same guy who was so smart that he thought that moon was a part of Mars and that the Army took over the airports during the Revolutionary War. Yep, that genius.

You said that the Republicans are not devoid of ideas and yet you failed once more to provide any evidence that Republican Congresspeople offered any counterproposals on voting rights, COVID Relief, capping the price of insulin or inflation. Because you couldn't. Until Congressional Republicans start offering counterproposals, I will stick to my original statement. Even Democrats came up with a counterproposal on the Mango Mussolini's border wall. A counterproposal that he was in favor of accepting until some idiot talking head on FUX "News" talked him out of it.

Next comes the "All lives matter" canard. You will never understand why "All lives matter", when used as a counter argument to "Black lives matter", is racist. No racist understands. But it is psychologically true. [URL]https://www.psypost.org/2021/10/support-for-all-lives-matters-linked-to-implicit-racism-and-narrow-definitions-of-discrimination-62016[/URL] But the other thing you don't understand is that "all lives matter" is hurtful when used the way you use it. Don't believe me? Try this. Go up to one of your friends and tell them that your parents just died. Would you be hurt if the friend said "All parents die"?

You want the never ending assault on civil rights to end? Whose civil rights? Yours? Or do you really mean "We want the never ending push to have us accept LGBTQ people as having the same rights as us to end"? Or do you really mean "We want the never ending push to have us accept people of color as having the same rights as us to end"? Or do you really mean "We want the never ending push to have us accept women as having the same rights as us to end"? See, that's what you really mean; you don't want any of the other folks in the USA to have the same rights as you. You would prefer to have a woman be forced to have her rapists baby.

You want censorship to end? Really? Censorship of what? You idiots yell and scream about things like this and yet you do exactly the same things. Don't like a company saying "This is a bad law and we will work to have it struck down! The Republican solution is to have government go after the company. The same government that you morons say shouldn't get involved in things like that. That is what today's Republican party wants. You rubes yell and scream about "cancel culture" and yet you do the same things only worse. And you are just too stupid to realize it.

Cheering on bullshit convictions? You mean, of course, any conviction related to the attempted January 6th coup. Because when you believe that January 6th was a day after January 5th and before January 7th and that nothing really happened, of course you think that the convictions are BS. But wait, wasn't it you morons who said that it was all on ANTIFA? Or BLM? So if that is true, then why are Republicans saying that the convictions are bullshit and why are Democrats cheering the same convictions? The simple facts of the matter is that you idiots keep changing the story so often because you think that we're as dumb as you. We aren't.

Then, of course, there is Kevin McCarthy's "I never said that Trump should resign" statement. Republicans, of course, believed McCarthy "hook, like and sinker". It took what, maybe 2 hours, for the actual tape of the conversation with Liz Cheney to be released. And that showed that McCarthy lied. What he really did was take the standard Republican position that Republican voters are dumb and that they will believe virtually anything that comes out of a Republican politicians mouth.

As I said before, when Republicans (whether they be at the local, State or Federal level) pass laws that are harmful to Americans, the lack of Republican dissent means that Republicans welcome the fact that those laws are harmful to others.

This is right up there with "The Republican Party's Plan To Rescue America" tax increases.

Same as Reagan did at the Federal level, Repub governor DeSantis is about to increase taxes on Floridians in a big way. But then, he has that sucker Culture War issue to defend. LOL:

[B]Florida taxpayers could face $1 billion Disney debt bomb after special district bill passes.[/B]

[URL]https://www.cnbc.com/2022/04/21/disney-special-district-florida-taxpayers-could-face-a-1-billion-debt-bomb-if-dissolved.html?__source=androidappshare[/URL]

[QUOTE]The Florida legislature on Thursday cleared a bill that would dissolve Disneys special improvement district, effective June 2023.

If the special district is eliminated, Orange and Osceola counties would have to provide the local services currently provided by the special district.

Legislators and tax experts warn the bill creates an even larger potential problem for taxpayers in the form of bonds totaling more than $1 billion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2688691]I see you didn't provide even one link for this thing you claim I said so many times because you can't, there isn't one.

Uh, no, I didn't work at a university. I was a student at a university and still have friends from those days who were also merely students there. Those were the long time university "chums" I was referring to.

So you might have just broken a Personal Best record for the longest, most detailed and labor intensive reply based on 100% inaccurate, misunderstood non information on the forum.

Impressive.[/QUOTE]Nah, the real estate part is still true, and your profile screams that you are getting a state pension. Maybe the education part was off but that is on you. I "have university chums" is present tense like they are still at the university.

It is funny though how you just said I was wrong and did not tell me what you did. That is suspicious.

But here you are living in Thailand telling everyone what is best and how resources should be directed. LOL. If everyone did what you do, there would be few taxes to be collected.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2688835]Not one responsible scientist says that. Of course you can find morons in the medical profession who say that but notice that I used the word "responsible".[/QUOTE]Science is not opinion but data. Do you have data showing masks work on airplanes or trains? Hell no.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2688835]You said that the Republicans are not devoid of ideas and yet you failed once more to provide any evidence that Republican Congresspeople offered any counterproposals on voting rights, COVID Relief, capping the price of insulin or inflation.[/QUOTE]OMG. You control both houses and have the executive branch. Tell me who is in favor of high insulin prices. Propose allowing the repatriation of drugs from other countries. And then shame anyone against it.

Glenn Greenwald wrote what the Democratic scam is. Like with Build Back Better, the Dems pick one person to vote against an unpopular package and then blame him. Matt Taibbi wrote that if the Dems could get through the public option, lower drug prices, and like three other issues they would not lose. And then what happens? They always fail. GW Bush prosecuted the fat cats at Worldcom and Enron. Obama gave everyone a fucking pass. The fat cats own your fucking party no matter what solutions you propose. They will never come to fruition.

[QUOTE=PVMonger;2688835]You will never understand why "All lives matter", when used as a counter argument to "Black lives matter", is racist.[/QUOTE]So only black lives matter. White, Asian, and Latin lives do not. Got it. Yeah, that is not racist. I think that is the end of it. I am going to do like Canada and Cali guy do and leave you alone. That is when you all tear into each other.

[QUOTE=EihTooms;2688691]I see you didn't provide even one link for this thing you claim I said so many times because you can't, there isn't one.

Uh, no, I didn't work at a university. I was a student at a university and still have friends from those days who were also merely students there. Those were the long time university "chums" I was referring to.

So you might have just broken a Personal Best record for the longest, most detailed and labor intensive reply based on 100% inaccurate, misunderstood non information on the forum..[/QUOTE]CaliGuy also has a great background on writing fiction based on his own confusion.

CaliGuy made several false claims & assertions of my education in San Diego.

When I have never attended nor taught school in that entire county.

These pubs are laugh-out-loud funny & stupid.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688918]Nah, the real estate part is still true, and your profile screams that you are getting a state pension. Maybe the education part was off but that is on you. I "have university chums" is present tense like they are still at the university.

It is funny though how you just said I was wrong and did not tell me what you did. That is suspicious.

But here you are living in Thailand telling everyone what is best and how resources should be directed. LOL. If everyone did what you do, there would be few taxes to be collected.[/QUOTE]I am getting no city, state or federal pension, never did. I am not even collecting Social Security yet. Other than getting some unemployment insurance checks during the Reagan, Bush1 and Bush2 high unemployment, massive lay-off and jobs destruction years and those Trump Economic Disaster Emergency Relief checks that most Americans had to receive due to his horrific economic decision results, I have never received any money from any government or that I didn't earn directly from the private sector jobs and work I performed. Actually, even the unemployment checks I got under typically crap Repub jobs creation and economic results administrations came to me thanks to contributions I made to the insurance program from earned income.

No, I started working at age 14 (I lied on my application. I think the minimum age to be hired was 15 1/2 or 16 back then), worked full time all through high school and university where I met my fellow university chums. It was mostly swing shift and graveyard shift factory and department store janitorial kind of work that a daytime student could get in the evenings or overnight in those days. I caught sleep here and there between classes or in the 20 free minutes I had during lunch breaks at the factories.

After graduating from the university I continued to work only private sector jobs, mostly in local, district, branch and regional sales management positions with solid Fortune 500 companies and voluntarily retired early from all that by 55 after I felt I had all my ducks lined up in a row well enough to dabble in a few other fun things in the USA and then comfortably retire where I had already judged from several extended vacation jaunts decades earlier would likely be a fine, fun, sexy and adventurous place to spend most of the second half or final third.

I was right. It has been a blast.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688925]Science is not opinion but data. Do you have data showing masks work on airplanes or trains? Hell no.

OMG. You control both houses and have the executive branch. Tell me who is in favor of high insulin prices. Propose allowing the repatriation of drugs from other countries. And then shame anyone against it.

Glenn Greenwald wrote what the Democratic scam is. Like with Build Back Better, the Dems pick one person to vote against an unpopular package and then blame him. Matt Taibbi wrote that if the Dems could get through the public option, lower drug prices, and like three other issues they would not lose. And then what happens? They always fail. GW Bush prosecuted the fat cats at Worldcom and Enron. Obama gave everyone a fucking pass. The fat cats own your fucking party no matter what solutions you propose. They will never come to fruition.

So only black lives matter. White, Asian, and Latin lives do not. Got it. Yeah, that is not racist. I think that is the end of it. I am going to do like Canada and Cali guy do and leave you alone. That is when you all tear into each other.[/QUOTE]Let's see if we can work out a little compare and contrast exercise for you here:

GW Bush came into office during booming economic conditions and historic budget surpluses that he giddily proclaimed in his first full month in office that we didn't even need so he was going to give fat cats in the top marginal brackets a refund. Remember?

Good time to make a grand, self-serving political gesture to "get" bad bankers for past transgressions. BTW, those Enron prosecutions were a waste of time and money since the convictions were overturned by the Repub majority SCOTUS. But, what the hell, we had all that time and money in the world to waste thanks to that booming Clinton economic hand off to GW Bush anyway, right? Banks and bankers? Who needs them? Prosecute!

By stark contrast and comparison, what was happening in the GW Bush economy at the hand off to Obama? Ah, I'll bet even you know what the totally logical argument to follow would be for why Obama did not spend the next years chasing down and prosecuting banks and bankers when what the country needed more than revenge and a self-serving political gesture that would for sure take years, might not get even one conviction and had the same Repub SCOTUS waiting in the wings to overturn such things was to get our money back. And as soon as fucking possible. Followed by as many years of stability and certainty as every monetary, commerce and capitalist society and system needed to survive and thrive except even more so this time.

More than grand political gestures that might not even pay off with confirmed convictions, chaos, uncertainty and revenge, we and the rest of the world's economies needed the bankers who knew more than anyone else on the planet how and why we got into that mess to get us out of it and pay us back for it, with interest. Hefty interest. Not temporarily stamping out license plates or pounding big rocks into little rocks somewhere.

Which is the far, far better immediate goal option that Obama chose. And so that is what he did and he even turned a healthy profit on the deal.

To question Obama's reasoning and results after the fact without factoring in the full context, conditions and unprecedented emergency requirements necessary at that precise time in history sounds exactly like the kind of stupid thing Greenwald, Taibbi and whatever other pro Repub numbskulls you got that from would do.

[QUOTE=Elvis2008;2688925]Science is not opinion but data. Do you have data showing masks work on airplanes or trains? Hell no.

OMG. You control both houses and have the executive branch. Tell me who is in favor of high insulin prices. Propose allowing the repatriation of drugs from other countries. And then shame anyone against it.

Glenn Greenwald wrote what the Democratic scam is. Like with Build Back Better, the Dems pick one person to vote against an unpopular package and then blame him. Matt Taibbi wrote that if the Dems could get through the public option, lower drug prices, and like three other issues they would not lose. And then what happens? They always fail. GW Bush prosecuted the fat cats at Worldcom and Enron. Obama gave everyone a fucking pass. The fat cats own your fucking party no matter what solutions you propose. They will never come to fruition.

So only black lives matter. White, Asian, and Latin lives do not. Got it. Yeah, that is not racist. I think that is the end of it. I am going to do like Canada and Cali guy do and leave you alone. That is when you all tear into each other.[/QUOTE]I'll turn the tables back on you. Do you have data showing masks don't work on airplanes, et cetera? Nope. And again, it appears that you are comfortable with someone with no medical training or public health training whatsoever determine public health policy. And I ask again, do you go to your mechanic for medical advice? To your doctor about tax issues? Only idiots do that. Idiots like the one-term, twice-impeached, fake-POTUS former guy and all of the morons that voted for him.

Actually, the Democrats do not control the Senate. The Senate is split 50/50. If you had enough IQ points to decorate a domino, you'd know that. Who is in favor of high insulin prices? Since only 12 Republicans (out of 209) voted for the House bill to cap the price of insulin, it appears that Republicans are against capping the price of insulin. Was there a Republican counterproposal? Nope. Just Matt "Sex before they're eight or else its too late" Gaetz suggesting that people lose weight.

And, once more, racist Republicans like you fail to understand that "Black lives matter" does not mean "Only black lives matter". The "only Black lives matter" retort is the standard idiot's response and you proved once again that you are one. As I said earlier, you and the rest of the rightwingnuts on this board are so closed minded that you will never understand. Period.