Jakarta

Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1513774]Photos please. Price is meaningless unless we see quality.[/QUOTE]Yes I agree photos are helpful, however I don't have a camera nor a cell phone with a camera. And yes many have tried to convince me to get an upgrade.

But my argument is need / wants etc. Etc.

I am just not the photo type of person. If I can get the girls to take pics I will upload to the forum.

Happy New year 2014 to all the forum members

No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1513863]No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."[/QUOTE]Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.

[QUOTE=Psychman;1514273]Of course the man can afford a camera; he chooses not to. I have zero desire to ever take a picture while mongering. It is not about trophy hunting for others, its about enjoying each and every moment to the fullest. If for you that includes pictures, great. But for many of us, it just detracts from the experience. Don't assume your way of mongering is THE way.[/QUOTE]Don't you take pictures on vacation etc, to enjoy afterwards?

There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514481]I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing.[/QUOTE]I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.

[QUOTE=Smoothy;1514501]I find that my standards drop or raise based on the quality of the girls wherever I may be. In a bar with all ugly girls, the best looking of the uglies will likely be my date for the evening if I'm lucky. Haha. I think Blok M is a good example of that. I don't think there is much quality on Blok M these days. It's still good fun though.[/QUOTE]That was my experience at MBC, the OT, and Soi Six. You know; you walk into a joint, sit down, have a beer, get acclimated and pretty soon your viewpoint starts to get anchored to the standards of the bar. This behavioral phenomenon usually has its strongest effect on me the first night of a trip or the first night in a new town. I will be visiting Jakarta for the first time in less than 60 days. The Blok M bars are definitely on my must do list, but I will not be starting out there. I plan on hitting the higher end brothel places first and get my tastes anchored at these establishments before I venture further a field. I have been with some very pretty Indonesian girls in Batam, Singapore, Macau, HKG, and even Amsterdam of all places. I expect to hit the mother lode in Jakarta! I sure hope there will be some pretty girls in Blok M by the time I visit. Your Hany looks good. But if I don't see any attractive Blok M girls, I will barhop a little and then just move on. I am really looking forward to Jakarta. I think it is going to be great.

[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1513863]No camera at all? Seems a waste of prime opportunities. If you are interested, I can loan you an old kodak camera that uses film that I never use anymore. It still works if they still sell and develop film these days.

I'll post a pic of a chick from My Bar here. Is she the one you took home? She's popular. She had her own car and driver waiting there just outside My Bar already rented out so she could make quick short time runs, thus I didn't have to pay for a taxi or "parking". That was a savings. That works great for me since I never want them to stay more than an hour anyway. The old joke is "How do you define eternity in Jakarta? When you have cum, but the taxi has not come."[/QUOTE]Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person. I saw someone wrote that he takes pics for memories, well I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.

About your friend I didn't seen her in My Bar on 31st I know as I scouted all 17 girls that were there, the 2 cute ones got taken very early. But I did go to Top gun on 1st and there she was standing in the doorway, she propositioned my friend but he wasn't interested. So she is still around.

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1514546]I don't really want memories of these 'below average ' girls. If I find a gem I will try my best to get a photo.[/QUOTE]If a girl is "below average," why do her?

[QUOTE=Bkk212;1514546]Ok about the camera thanks for the loan, but I am just not a picture person.[/QUOTE]No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo; 1514481]There are three main reasons I like to take photos of my girls. The first reason I like to take photos of the girls is in order to preserve the memories. I shag 30 plus women per trip. There is no other way to remember the girls accurately. The memory fades if I just leave it in my head. The second reason I photograph the girls is for quality control. The camera does not lie. When I take a look at the photos of girls starting 6 months after a trip I get an accurate reading of how well I scored. I stopped taking girls out of MBC in Manila because of the after trip horror show I saw with too many of my girls from there. Ha! Ha! They were all really nice girls who always gave me a good time, but if I were to rate them honestly, I would have to say they were all 4. 5* out 10, maybe a couple 5*out of 10 at best and that is being very kind. Point: If you are too embarrassed to show a girl's photo to a friend, then you know you have sunk a little too low unless you are into that sort of thing. The third reason I like to take photos is that it is a lot of fun. Some girls really love to pose for the camera. It can really jump start a session. In certain bars I know, the girls go wild as soon as I take out my Canon pocket camera. They all want to get in on the fun. On the other hand, I will put the camera away if a girl is uncomfortable with it.

So do your own thing, but I highly recommend giving it a try. It is all about having a good time and preserving the memories.[/QUOTE]To Natty Bumpo.

I do mongering all over the World most girl will allow me to take Picture except for China and S Korea most PRC are very shy about having their picture taking, I pick a girl at Millie disco few month ago she love having picture even allow video on my smart phone she love to show off her hot body.

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[QUOTE=Smoothy; 1514569]No worries.

As far as taking below average chicks, I think that goes back to the fact that there really aren't that many lookers on the Blok. So you end up taking the best of what's available. As long as you enjoy yourself, it's all good. I'm just saying that whatever money you give these girls isn't a set rate. It's not a given that any girl on the Blok is 400k for a short time. It depends on the popularity of the girl and the amount of competition that night. That Hany girl is nothing special, but she's young and firm and has nice breasts. Unfortunately, she's one of the better girls on the Blok these days from what I see. After a few beers, many of the uglier girls turn into gems anyway.[/QUOTE]Ha Ha how true after a while everyone looks good. How about this for a turnaround in My Bar. Went there last night 2nd and it had a lot of girls, at one point (1:00am) there were 16

Girls and one guy (me). Quite a few different ones at that also. So it just shows it always is a hit and miss situation (at least in MB anyway). Not sure about other places. And now that I have been seen around the quotes I am receiving (without asking or haggling) is now 400k, I do understand that it's not a set rate but if they think you don't know the setup or figure you are new prices are different.

Okay for the new guys in town (not the regulars) be careful in Top Gun when you order drinks (this has happened to me twice before, years ago). You order a drink and all of a sudden there are a whole lot of other unordered drinks next to you. I questioned the bartender and he said that I ordered them (me, myself) , which I didn't. Now I am not a regular in TP so no one knows me, this is also a frequent occurrence in Patpong, Bangkok (BKK, my I'd).

Maybe I was just unlucky and they thought that I was a sucker just bring drinks and I would pay for it. Just be careful in some of these bars if you are a new face in the crowd. Hence the reason I always go to MB, girls or no girls I fancy the dance music and never had been cheated on my bill, although I exclusively use only one waitress.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514552]If a girl is "below average," why do her?[/QUOTE]Well she might have extra large tits on a small frame and gives an exceptional blowjob.

[QUOTE=Natty Bumpo;1514552]If a girl is "below average," why do her?[/QUOTE]Looking back I can truthfully say that I have been f*cked better by "below average" women than by the ones that know they are HOT. I agree with Smoothy in that when you enter an environment with many women, that we normally focus our attention on the best we see. We each have different taste and one that might not please you, I might love.

It all comes down to "What ever turns you on".

Aloha.

RL