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[QUOTE=Chantik; 1367766]So why are men still as cute. They also eat western food and dairy products.

One possible reason why guys think the women aren't as attractive is that women can work as escorts online. They don't have to go to barsor the like.[/QUOTE]We aren't still as cute. We are all handsome men.

And what does whether they can work as escorts online or not come into play. Just walk the streets, visit cafes, malls, etc. Generally as Asia adopts more bits of culture, or lack of it, from the West, they are eating more and becoming more unhealthy. Add that many of the women who would have opted to be working girls have more options available to them today, which is great.

[QUOTE=Pita123; 1367942]We aren't still as cute. We are all handsome men.

And what does whether they can work as escorts online or not come into play. Just walk the streets, visit cafes, malls, etc. Generally as Asia adopts more bits of culture, or lack of it, from the West, they are eating more and becoming more unhealthy. Add that many of the women who would have opted to be working girls have more options available to them today, which is great.[/QUOTE]I still don't understand why IMO that guys are just as handsome as 10 or 20 years ago, but according to guys the quality of women is dropping.

So in other words the attractiveness of men is the same, but women as a race are becoming more unattractive.

I am unsure about Asian women eating more western food. All food is the same. Meat / vegetables / fish / grains etc. It's just that we have different cooking styles.

This topic will cause lots of discussion.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1367966]I still don't understand why IMO that guys are just as handsome as 10 or 20 years ago, but according to guys the quality of women is dropping.

So in other words the attractiveness of men is the same, but women as a race are becoming more unattractive.

I am unsure about Asian women eating more western food. All food is the same. Meat / vegetables / fish / grains etc. It's just that we have different cooking styles.

This topic will cause lots of discussion.[/QUOTE]Errr. Not much to understand I think!

It's got a lot to do with socio-economic factors:

Guys (alongside the whole world) are earning a lot more with each passing year. And thus we are now able to afford better and better "fare" and our taste becomes more refined / discerning / demanding better. Thus sort of narrowing our own field.

Women. Especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.

Nothing to do with diet or kind of food eaten.no matter what food, what race, there are always good looking people amongst all the rest.

And the painful fact of the matter is that most guys consider youth as important as other factors. And in Asia generally, ladies over 26 are considered over the hill! It's worse in places like China / Vietnam / other less economically developed countries where any gal over 23 or 25 is relegated to the Old spinster category.

SEAJ

[quote=se asia joe;1367973]women. especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.[/quote]as the old saying goes, there are always exceptions. a us olympic gal admits to tricking and leo closed down a zumba studio for selling sex.

[quote=tiger 888;1367909]isn't the number of "younger than me" girls available increasing by the day? whereas the number of "older than them and rich" guys is decreasing equivalently.[/quote]i would say "decreasing exponentially."

[quote=bnlee2;1367927]i prefer older gals. 25-39.[/quote]my 2 fengs is that i like 24-28 and maybe beyond. problem is that all girls are not very upfront on the question of age so i have no idea if i am hitting within my range. lol.

[quote=mrclen;1367760]this posting is more in the way of some incite into the problem[/quote]dude, everyone discriminates everywhere. its just the way people are. take an impartial view at your peers. i love the dutch influence in indo because the monetary expectations are a lot less.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1367621]You need to make a New Year's Resolution. Ladies are just as beautiful as 10, 20 or 30 years ago. Things always look better through the ' mists of time '.

Lots of handsome guys out there. I notice no difference[/QUOTE]Heh heh. My last one was 35 and slipped through the quality control because her bod was still in great shape (after kid) and the dim lighting and my mind being preoccupied with other matters. Dilbert had a great series on how a handsome wallet makes a man irresistible to women.

[QUOTE=SE Asia Joe; 1367973]Errr. Not much to understand I think!

It's got a lot to do with socio-economic factors:

Guys (alongside the whole world) are earning a lot more with each passing year. And thus we are now able to afford better and better "fare" and our taste becomes more refined / discerning / demanding better. Thus sort of narrowing our own field.

Women. Especially the better looking ones / with better qualifications are shunning sex work as other opportunities abound, thus leaving only those with lower expectations / inherently lower quality.

Nothing to do with diet or kind of food eaten. No matter what food, what race, there are always good looking people amongst all the rest.

And the painful fact of the matter is that most guys consider youth as important as other factors. And in Asia generally, ladies over 26 are considered over the hill! It's worse in places like China / Vietnam / other less economically developed countries where any gal over 23 or 25 is relegated to the Old spinster category.

SEAJ[/QUOTE]Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.

[QUOTE=Boarer;1368012]Heh heh. My last one was 35 and slipped through the quality control because her bod was still in great shape (after kid) and the dim lighting and my mind being preoccupied with other matters. Dilbert had a great series on how a handsome wallet makes a man irresistible to women.[/QUOTE]I am certain that you thought she looked under 30.

Mr Clen.

I would look at Non-Chinese ladies.

I assume that you are in China but there are Filipina's and Indonesians to be found.

Maybe go onto dating websites. You will find more luck.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1368118]Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.[/QUOTE]Most guys? Perhaps. Guys on ISG? Probably better than the average Joe at I'd'ing an Asian woman's age. I'm usually accurate to with a year after looking at their hands, nick, ears.

[QUOTE=Chantik;1368118]A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.[/QUOTE]Well-educated? As in Chula, CMU and Silpakorn or are we talking Ramkhamhaeng University? I certainly know sex workers with degrees but their degrees get them low paying jobs and they, and their family / boyfriends, become addicted to the money sex work brings in. Be interesting to meet a Chula grad sex worker.

We have a population growing less healthy and attractive due to fast food and too much alcohol combined with a wider range or opportunities for women who would have opted to be sex workers in the past. Thus, the cuteness of the overall population is declining and the proportion of cute sex workers is shrinking.

[QUOTE=Pita123; 1368139]Most guys? Perhaps. Guys on ISG? Probably better than the average Joe at I'd'ing an Asian woman's age. I'm usually accurate to with a year after looking at their hands, nick, ears.

Well-educated? As in Chula, CMU and Silpakorn or are we talking Ramkhamhaeng University? I certainly know sex workers with degrees but their degrees get them low paying jobs and they, and their family / boyfriends, become addicted to the money sex work brings in. Be interesting to meet a Chula grad sex worker.

We have a population growing less healthy and attractive due to fast food and too much alcohol combined with a wider range or opportunities for women who would have opted to be sex workers in the past. Thus, the cuteness of the overall population is declining and the proportion of cute sex workers is shrinking.[/QUOTE]Pita.

With your unique talent in knowing a ladies age, you could be an excellent wing-man for new punters.

University Education. All countries are sending more and more people through University with the hope that it leads to well paid and enjoyable work. Unfortunately the quality and number of jobs hasn't increased by the same amount. This is why some Uni Graduates in Thailand prefer working in the sex industry. And it's very common in western countries for Uni students to set themselves up as Escorts to help pay Uni fees. And sometimes they continue that career. And many escorts in high level agencies are university educated.

Maybe one of the more experienced posters could give some more information about the Sex Industry. My understanding is that it's between the 4th to 7th biggest industry in the world. So you would think that many people work in this industry.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1368118]Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.[/QUOTE]You make sense. Not only are there more opportunities for women these days, taking them out of the potential WG pool, there are many more rich Chinese men who can afford keeping "second" wives. That may be more attractive for a young 20-some year old. In my experience, after about age 27 or so, Chinese women become much less desirable for marriage, for cultural reasons. Below age 27 or so, the WG industry has competition from legit business opportunities, conventional marriages, and second wife arrangements. Above age 27 or so, if a Chinese woman hasn't married or doesn't have a good job, there are not many other opportunities. Since they look younger, they are still good candidates for the high end WG field.

About to visit HK again. In the other cities I visit, it usually only takes eye contact to initiate conversation in a bar with a good looking WG. In places like Singapore, they stick to me like a cheap suit. Maybe it's just me, but that hasn't been my past experience in HK, limited as it is. The WGs in Wanchai have seemed more interested in dancing with themselves than meeting new customers. Fortunately, persistence has usually paid off. But am I missing the secret WG signal in HK. ? Are the bars starting to fill yet with people back from the holidays?

[QUOTE=Chinese Food;1368235]You make sense. Not only are there more opportunities for women these days, taking them out of the potential WG pool, there are many more rich Chinese men who can afford keeping "second" wives. That may be more attractive for a young 20-some year old. In my experience, after about age 27 or so, Chinese women become much less desirable for marriage, for cultural reasons. Below age 27 or so, the WG industry has competition from legit business opportunities, conventional marriages, and second wife arrangements. Above age 27 or so, if a Chinese woman hasn't married or doesn't have a good job, there are not many other opportunities. Since they look younger, they are still good candidates for the high end WG field.[/QUOTE]Many of the second / third wives and or mistresses comes out of the WG pool. Many of them knows how to use cosmetic and keep themselves trim. All they have is beauty and knows how to attract. Even the ones over thirty better than most of the twenty something girls here in America and know what a man likes. The smart one are the one that already have save enough money from their lo gon and have back up plans. The smart one are the one that knows how to use the money from what they get from their lo gons and create their own opportunities. I have seen done quite well. Some of them tries to get pregnant and hoping to get a son, so that their benefactor continues to pay after their beauty begins to fade.

[QUOTE=Chantik; 1368118]Have to disagree with part of your post. It's well known that Asians look much younger than Caucasians until about 45. Although once we get to 45 we do age quickly. But do guys know a ladies age? Most guys see Asian ladies in bars / walking down the street and think they are 25, when most of them are over 30. All my girlfriends are over 30, but the guys don't believe their age. Looks can be deceiving.

A number of well educated Thai ladies. Graduates. Prefer to work in the sex industry, often as independent escorts.

So you are agreeing. Woman look as attractive as 15 years ago. It's just that they are in different fields of work.[/QUOTE]Grudging admiration. That is what I have for you niek!

On your ability to enthrall so many with your various postings on just about anything and to still be able to prevail on a male dominated. And customer I / o provider oriented. Board such as this!

But on this point you are perhaps projecting badly on your own set of circumstances. Yeah quite a few mongers wouldn't know, or actually care how old a provider really is, as the whole package is what usually attracts us; it's not as if we're going to marry you and ride off into the sunset with! Especially when one's judgement is clouded by alcohol and / or extreme horniness! And your postings here. A very nice touch! Kudos!

That is what I got to say about being able to tell a girl's age. Even Asian ones. I can actually very easily tell how old a girl is and I would think a lot of guys can also. And no matter how much you may protest, the fact of the matter is that you are at least 33 years old!

And about University education etc. I can detect from your full grasp of the English language that you are most probably quite well educated. And that you yourself still continue in this "career" of yours, well, please be honest with yourself if with nobody else. Did you actually make a rational, well thought out and reasoned decision to continue on this line of work? Or was it just one day following another? The working conditions is good, laying down on the job is a dream for many, the ego is stroked and more so, the money is GREAT and able to afford you a life that many of your contemporaries can only dream about. Was it REALLY a conscious decision on your part to continue hooking?

As far as the "overall beauty" of girls in general. Well we DO have more (too much) of now voluptuous Asian women. And Independent escorting is GREAT for such women as photoshopping does a great job in sculpting bodies. And oh yeah, hiding age too! When was the last time you and your more mature girl friends able to get an "assignment" IRL?

Just sayin'! LOL.

SEAJ

[QUOTE=Chinese Food;1368247]they stick to me like a cheap suit.[/QUOTE]Get to know the mamasan at a curtained or uncurtained place and she will make sure they stick to you till your money runs out. FWIW, I am new to the game and find that even freelance WG have standards. It is pretty funny. At some of the bars, the WG do cherry pick. One client like SirMajalot or JTL and they have filled their daily quota (or their quota was filled). The 141 gals will have to get 3+ clients to match plus they have to pay for their own room, which is probably "controlled". I have heard / seen many WG refuse clients, in many countries. However, I am not sure how the right for refusal works for escorts. In short, I think freelancer WG require a certain amount of wooing. Managed girls have the pimps with fire under their feet to accept any client.