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[QUOTE=Sperto]Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
In this forum I often read "in the end we always have to pay for them". IMO that is pure BS. Most non-pro girls don't expect to get paid in any way. At least not if they really like you. Taking them out to dinner, giving them a present or money to taxi are nice gestures, but that's nothing that's being expected.
It's not about being cheap. It's a matter of showing them respect and treat them like a real girlfriend.[/QUOTE]LOL! Here we go. You know I thought about not giving her any money, and when I did I thought about why did I do it.
I did it because overall she performed above and beyond with meeting me on the metro, either of us were able to communicate because of language, and without BS, gave me all the BBBJ, ass and pussy I wanted and as often as I wanted for 8 hours without negotiations. And I remember her going into the livingroom and retrieving some flavored dick sucking lotion, and literally skipping back to me so she can suck my dick.
Ok, it was an insult to offer her money, but if I am willing to give a termas R$200 for an hour of sex, and a MP or Help bimbo many, then she deserves an offering. She was very polite. And when I do her again, I will put some reis in her hand, especially with er being a young mother, and taking time to see me after a couple of hours on the metro.
But Sperto, I respect your opinion. And I knew you were going to bark at me when I made my initial post. But she was good. And when I said I wanted photos, she bent over, pulled her panties aside and showed me her nice tight brown-eye. I know ou wish you were there!
Just kidding!
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]Dinner, presents "taxi" money. EVERY woman wants something. Showing them "respect" means showing that you are of substance. In this world that means cash or cash equivalents. That's how "real" girlfriends expect to be treated.[/QUOTE]I agree. It was all about respecting her. She said to me she was no programa. But at least she respected the fact that I didn't take her for granted. And she has been sending me online translation emails everyday.
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[QUOTE=Sperto]Jamaicanceo, why on earth did you offer her money after having sex?
That would be a major insult to most non-pro girls. If I did something like this to my regular non-pro GF's they would slap my face and never meet me again. They are proud of being hard-working (or studying) women. Getting paid after having sex with a gringo is the same as calling them a "puta".
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I dont know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they cant even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Dont get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!!
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[QUOTE=Bravo]I don't know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they can't even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Don't get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isn't that wild and care free! [/QUOTE]And I believe you are right. Assuming all aspects, I offered the money. I told my wingman that she could've been a centro termas girls; or Aceva calls them, "A diamond in the rough. " When se it her cigarette afer each session, and posed for the pictures, some things made me think she was a downtown termas girl.
But she still did a great job satisfying me. I will keep her on call. At least I know she is no trouble. Plus, she was pretty clean. However, I wasn't willing to taste.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
Interesting point about the pictures.................makes perfect sense!!!
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[QUOTE=Ryjerrob]Interesting point about the pictures.................makes perfect sense!!![/QUOTE]I still enjoyed myself. Shit, I just turned 50. R$200 reis is cheap for that much fun. A 27 year old business associate said his buddy dropped $2,000.00 in Las Vegas this past weekend for his 30 birthday. Now who had more fun reis per dollar?
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[QUOTE=Legal Tender]EVERY woman wants something. Showing them "respect" means showing that you are of substance. In this world that means cash or cash equivalents.[/QUOTE]
That might be how things works in the US and Europe, but not necessarily in Brazil.
I have a very healthy relationship with my girlfriends in Brazil. They know I only stay for a short time and some of them propably suspect that I have girlfriends in other cities. We keep in contact and we meet every year and have our adventure. They want nothing else than having a good time.
This works fine with me. Anyway, each to their own. If other guys feels the need to pay, go ahead.
[QUOTE=Bravo]No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
I guess the women I meet are not normal. :D
They are happy to pose.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=866294&postcount=3244[/url]
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[QUOTE=Ricker]BTW, I went to a place in SP with my girlfriend last weekend to see Calcinha Preta.
It was a large club with multiple levels and sections with different music types and shows in each section.
Lots of hot chicas about, non-pros. I was getting lots of looks even though I was with my girl.[/QUOTE]
That's what is great in Sao Paulo. I can't think about another place on the planet with a better nightlife. You can hit a different cool, large and "in" (and crowded) place every day of the week during six monthes without even BEGIN to discover what the city has to offer. I've been told that only in Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia neighborhood, there's something like 200 - regular - upscale bars, lounges and clubs !
Anyhow don't spread too much the secret : in EVERY way (and especially for P4P), Sao Paulo blows Rio out of the water. ;)
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[QUOTE=Sperto]
I guess the women I meet are not normal. :D
They are happy to pose.
[url]http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=866294&postcount=3244[/url][/QUOTE]
One important thing you have to remember Sperto is that you are fluent in portugese. Jamaicanceo couldnt even speak enough portugese, to make the girl understand something as simple, as his apartment address. So obviously he didnt woo her with his wit, charm or sense of humor. (I am not slamming you Jamaicanceo, I appreciate you posting your experiences). Again, its obvious he ran into a GDP who was on her way home.
I think we have to look at the situation with common sense. Its like my co-workers who approach me and ask "Hey Bravo. Where is that beach that I see on this internet site? Its called Mike in Brazil! I want to go there!"
They actually think that shit is real!!! I usually ask them "Do you honestly believe you can walk up to a total stranger, a super hot young woman at that. Not be able to speak the language. And within 10 minutes you will have her back at your apartment, you will be fucking her in the ass and filming the whole thing too? They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.
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[QUOTE=Bravo] They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.[/QUOTE]
Stop playing, we all know there is a Santa Claus. Next thing you'll be saying, is that it isn't the tooth fairy who took my teeth and left me all that cash!!!!!!
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Jamaicanceo
Nice report. Nice girl. Almost looks straight out of Africa. Procrastination and indicision are the thieves of life. You my man had the balls to walk up and start a conversation with her. In return, you were pleasently rewarded with a fine bunda!
Great find!
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Hit the Nail
[QUOTE=Bravo]I dont know any non-pro females in Rio would would go to a complete stranger's house (Someone who they cant even have a simple conversation with) and fuck him all day long, without expecting some sort of payment.
Dont get fooled by that whole "You arent a programma or why are you giving me money BS" Thats like women here in the states who act like they are reaching for their purse when the dinner check comes, they are doing it for show!!
Jamaicanceo happened upon a GDP who was headed home. No normal women is going to allow a gringo to take naked pics of her one day after meeting them. Rio is alot of fun, but it isnt that wild and care free!![/QUOTE]
Bravo is 100% correct; women in Rio - esp. Non-Pros - are very wary of Gringos. Most of the time the will not even look at you to say hi. I have been all over Rio and this mostly the case. Usually, the only way to meet a non-pro is throught contancts.
In spite of a lot of other appearances, Brazilans are very conservative.
My guess the girl the Jamc meet wanted to establish a longer term realtionship with future reutrns. Hell, she may have even liked him (GdPs are human are all). But this behavior is very a typical of a Brazilain woman and should be viewed as such.
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[QUOTE=Bravo]One important thing you have to remember Sperto is that you are fluent in portugese. Jamaicanceo couldnt even speak enough portugese, to make the girl understand something as simple, as his apartment address. So obviously he didnt woo her with his wit, charm or sense of humor. (I am not slamming you Jamaicanceo, I appreciate you posting your experiences). Again, its obvious he ran into a GDP who was on her way home.
I think we have to look at the situation with common sense. Its like my co-workers who approach me and ask "Hey Bravo. Where is that beach that I see on this internet site? Its called Mike in Brazil! I want to go there!"
They actually think that shit is real!!! I usually ask them "Do you honestly believe you can walk up to a total stranger, a super hot young woman at that. Not be able to speak the language. And within 10 minutes you will have her back at your apartment, you will be fucking her in the ass and filming the whole thing too? They then look at me like I just told them that Santa Claus wasnt real.[/QUOTE]She came by two days later, not 10 minutes; and I think I would her by my good looks. Thank you very much. Being handsome could go a long way.
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Jamaicanceo's girl
It has become an amusing thread. Jamaicanceo met a girl in the metro station and managed to get laid and take some pictures. Great! Suddenly everybody takes the conclusion that she was a pro.
I don't know neither Jamaicanceo or the girl but I can't see any reason at all why she should have been a pro. Wake up! It do happens that people meet, feel a mutual attraction and have sex without money being involved.
Centro is a very good place to meet non-pro's. Girls with regular works living far away from the copa-scene. Take a stroll in centro and try yourself. Flirt, smile, chat, have a suco and date. Try not to get brain-washed from the copa-scene.
Anyway, I enjoyed Jamaicanceo's report. Nice pics as well.
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I guess you are right Sperto, maybe I should just look at the bigger picture. In the end, if she is or isnt a CGP, its really not that important. I am just happy that he wrote about his experiences and posted up photos.