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I think somestimes there is to much hype over the big tourist MP places. I was in the BKK suburbs and found this mom&pop place with three girls. I think I was thier first Farang customer. One hour oil massage and FS was 500bt. I somestimes drive up there just for the treat.
In the same suburb a new MP just opened. Nice and clean with 10 young girls working. 8 of them would not be out of place in the Angel photo lineup. All from the countryside. Thay offer a one hour "hand job" massage (yes it says that on the menu) massage for 400bt inclusive.
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]As I said before, if the girl is worth her weight (so to speak) then Angel is the place as far as I am concerned. Soapies are ok but have many thai customers.
Angel24 is always busy, no matter what day/time there are a lot of Cellphones in the see-through box (girls are forced to put their phone there when going up with a customer).
I remember back in 2006, Miss KIP at Angel24, Good looking and was said to take it up the ass. Result: Impossible to see her! she was always taken by Japanese, Singaporeans on weeks holidays. The one time I saw her as not on holiday, she had bookings all day.
In my opinion, Angel24 is THE most successful Oily there is in BKK. Well above Tulip as they have now 41 rooms and up to 70 girls.
Friday/Sat/Sundays are Full and you have to wait for a room to free up. that's 41 rooms X 400thb (minimum charge) = 16,000 thb in 1 hour
They can surely rack up to 200,000 per day on weekends.
Of course, for a girl to be successful there she would have to be either drop dead gorgeous (haven't seen one yet in LOS) or a very very good performer (on top of being good looking). Then her name will spread in our AND Japanese Forums.
One thing is for sure, if a Japanese guy is to sponsor one of these girls, then they will get much more than 100k per month. The man will probably buy her a condo, a car, maybe even a shop to keep her occupied.
Is there a massage place that can do better (business wise) than Angel24? I mean, they advertize heavily on RakuRaku, GDiary and other online P4P sites.
Great business model.
BUT.... and there is a BIG BUT.... for the newbies reading this, don't think for one second that you will get a great service there.
Some providers are good, some are very good, but the majority will give you a very average experience. Angel24 is like a Factory: Come-in, cum and come-out :D
[url]http://angel26.kt.fc2.com/english01.html[/url][/QUOTE]
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Thank you guys for concentrating on the peas and not the Steak. Now that we know where Angel is located, how about the sponsoring post/question?
any other views on this?
And a side note to some people: NO, Tulip did not close down. I understand that we have not talked about it for a full 24 hours, my apologies about it. :D
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Tulip - Ant
Sorry to break the silence, NicFrenchy. 30 hours is just too much without more Tulip information. :)
First of all, Sweetpete, I firmly believe that a good deal of what you say to be true. I am also interested in your original screen name so we can see your previous posts and make a better judgment of your charater. Even if your way of telling it isn't true about Ant, (not sure why people are calling her Ann) then it is true about hundreds and thousands of other girls. However, in the context of ISG, I don't really care. At the end of the day the majority of these women make their own choices in life. They may be pressured into making the decisions, they may make them because they are desperate for money, it can be that they were brought up with no other prospects to get out of the village. There are plenty of women who are in just as dire a situation and never take that path. I also reckon that for enough money any woman would be willing to take that path. As SF mentioned, it is just a question of dickering over price. For Ant it was 2000 baht. At the end of the day I come to ISG to get and share information about mongering. I'm not interested in moralisation, I'm interested in where I can have an enjoyable time, with expected results, for an anticipated price.
Fornic8, thank you for the information on Ant. I'd never have noticed her as a maid and her picture in the catalog sucks. The picture of her face you posted is what led me to selecting her. She is a really nice girl. I prefer GFE to PSE and Ant really provided that. As always, a lot has to do with the chemistry and match in personalities. I see you mention that she's 24, she told me she's only 20. She has an amazing body in my opinion, save the fact that she's shorter than I prefer. Her breasts are small but she's not flat-chested. She made a point of showing off and saying "Real, no silicon". Height is one of the things Yok really has going for her in my book. Given the same height I imagine they'd have similar bodies. Ant provided a three shot session and apparently wasn't watching the clock enough since we got a knock on the door. At the end of the session she took a Tulip business card out of her bag, wrote in English her Tulip name as well as real name (I'd asked what it is earlier in the sessions and used it exclusively from then on) and said to "Call to book" with a big smile. This was her 5th day and I got the feeling that she is enjoying herself. Will that be the case after 2-3-6-12 months? Who knows? For now I have two favorites at Tulip and will have a dilemma if both are free. I had planned to visit Ant again before I left town but wasn't feeling well.
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Pita123,
Thanks for the post. I am glad Ann/Ant is doing well.
[QUOTE=Pita123]Sorry to break the silence, NicFrenchy. 30 hours is just too much without more Tulip information. :)
First of all, Sweetpete, I firmly believe that a good deal of what you say to be true. I am also interested in your original screen name so we can see your previous posts and make a better judgment of your charater. Even if your way of telling it isn't true about Ant, (not sure why people are calling her Ann) then it is true about hundreds and thousands of other girls. However, in the context of ISG, I don't really care. At the end of the day the majority of these women make their own choices in life. They may be pressured into making the decisions, they may make them because they are desperate for money, it can be that they were brought up with no other prospects to get out of the village. There are plenty of women who are in just as dire a situation and never take that path. I also reckon that for enough money any woman would be willing to take that path. As SF mentioned, it is just a question of dickering over price. For Ant it was 2000 baht. At the end of the day I come to ISG to get and share information about mongering. I'm not interested in moralisation, I'm interested in where I can have an enjoyable time, with expected results, for an anticipated price.
Fornic8, thank you for the information on Ant. I'd never have noticed her as a maid and her picture in the catalog sucks. The picture of her face you posted is what led me to selecting her. She is a really nice girl. I prefer GFE to PSE and Ant really provided that. As always, a lot has to do with the chemistry and match in personalities. I see you mention that she's 24, she told me she's only 20. She has an amazing body in my opinion, save the fact that she's shorter than I prefer. Her breasts are small but she's not flat-chested. She made a point of showing off and saying "Real, no silicon". Height is one of the things Yok really has going for her in my book. Given the same height I imagine they'd have similar bodies. Ant provided a three shot session and apparently wasn't watching the clock enough since we got a knock on the door. At the end of the session she took a Tulip business card out of her bag, wrote in English her Tulip name as well as real name (I'd asked what it is earlier in the sessions and used it exclusively from then on) and said to "Call to book" with a big smile. This was her 5th day and I got the feeling that she is enjoying herself. Will that be the case after 2-3-6-12 months? Who knows? For now I have two favorites at Tulip and will have a dilemma if both are free. I had planned to visit Ant again before I left town but wasn't feeling well.[/QUOTE]
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Tulip - FYI
Nestle is soon to leave Tulip to marry an American. I heard this rumor a couple of days ago and saw it confirmed on another site.
Best of luck to her.
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Yok falls down and three pages of posts.
Nestle getting married and not a single reply?
[QUOTE=Kuratla]Nestle is soon to leave Tulip to marry an American. I heard this rumor a couple of days ago and saw it confirmed on another site.
Best of luck to her.[/QUOTE]
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[quote=fornic8]yok falls down and three pages of posts.
nestle getting married and not a single reply?[/quote]yok probably urinated today as well. let's see how many posts that receives.
seriously though, it really goes to show how certain girls are raised up and put on a pedastal by certain posters on a particular forum. yok is a tulip goddess here on isg but, on other forums, there is scarcely a word about her.
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[QUOTE=Kuratla]... here on ISG but, on other forums, ....[/QUOTE]
There is a forum where Tulip gets the odd mention, but for massage, Annies totally dominates. Eden gets a bit of publicity. But its like most of the other oilies and soapies don't exist and be careful to dare to recommend somewhere else too strongly. Reports are generally much shorter than on this forum ;) so I don't recommend even considering to switch over there.
Its a free forum for members but I think certain interests might be sponsoring it.
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[QUOTE=Kuratla]Seriously though, it really goes to show how certain girls are raised up and put on a pedastal by certain posters on a particular forum. Yok is a Tulip goddess here on ISG but, on other forums, there is scarcely a word about her.[/QUOTE]Sorry but your info is not accurate, ISG isn't all about YOK. Tulip is I believe the most popular MP here, yes but a lot of other girls get reviews, not only YOK.
Actually, I might be the only guy in the Thailand forum (with more than 25 posts) that has not fucked her :D
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[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Sorry but your info is not accurate, ISG isn't all about YOK. Tulip is I believe the most popular MP here, yes but a lot of other girls get reviews, not only YOK.
Actually, I might be the only guy in the Thailand forum (with more than 25 posts) that has not fucked her :D[/QUOTE]Wrong. I haven't fucked her either.
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[QUOTE=Soap Fan]Ah some info. We will have to assume it comes from a reliable source ;) So I am NOT going to say its all lies.
Are you just quoting someone from another forum?[/quote]Well, let's just say my source is as reliable as getting my info only from Yok.
I believe she bullshits you sometimes, the same way people on other forums bullshit so I'd say our info credibility is same-same.
[quote]Obviously most sponsors have jealousy problems like you.
But they shouldn't believe they own a girl. We know that a large percentage of sponsored girls still have Giks, but not every last one of them. [/quote]Actually, it's not about being jealous, I have giks and I could not care less how many guys they do on the side. When I am with them, I enjoy the time and when I am not, I don't care.
Having said that, I am not stupid enough to sponsor a P4P girl (maybe when I will get older I will change... I hope not though).
The problem I have with this is moral, if you pay a girl to stop working and she still sees customers on the side they I believe she is not worthy.
Let me put this in terms you will relate to: You have a special relationship with YOK, she trusts you and you pay her well. If she was to be sponsored and leave tulip, you think she would burn her bridges with you? No way. Moreover, you will wnat to see her when you are in BKK.
The problem I have is that these ladies will agree to see a few selected Very good customers, but in my mind it's the same as if they were back in the parlor, no difference.
[quote]The human species was not mean't to be monogamous.
Monkeys and other primates are not. Even birds are not.
So jealosies are just such a waste of time. Exclusive fucking rights are generally elusive, but girls are more likely to be faithful than guys, but it may only be due to society's brain washing (IMHO).[/QUOTE]That is in a regular relationship, let's face it, if you sponsor a girl, all you're doing is paying a prostitute to stay faithful. It has nothing to do with Primates and birds. (IMHO)
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Are things THAT easy in Thailand?
Let me explain a little more here: Last night, as I was riding on the BTS I saw a very very cute Thai girl but she was unfortunately surrounded by friends. We exchanged glances and as she totally noticed I was checking her out she was all smiles. She unfortunately left a few stops before I did and all her friends followed so I could not approach her. Too bad as she was really cute (probably had a Thai boyfriend but I could not care less).
All this cute girl story got me excited and I needed to relax (Let me state that, in my case, relaxing does not mean seating in my boxers on my sofa with a beer and TV). Massage it is!!
Well, by massage I am not really talking about your oily rub down, I am referring to a “Tulip-like” place with non-stop sex and no oil at all
I decided to visit Smile Massage (soi 26) [url]http://www.smile-teen.com/[/url] (at least, if nothing appealing available Soi oily is always a close option)
Miss DOW (ex-Ratee of Luxury 19) works there now but she was busy (no surprise seeing how cute she is and how nice her boobs are) so I sat and chatted away with the Mamasan (whom I know well). Business is tough but they are hanging in there. This has become my fav place for a while now because their service is very good. Could it be because the mamas an likes me? Maybe but even on days when she is not there the older lady always takes good care of me (free upgrade to the VIP room).
I did not look at the book and asked her if my fav girl was here (she was busy) but the mama asked me if I wanted to try another girl. I wasn’t really sold on the idea and wanted to maybe have a look at Angel on soi 24/1 but Seeing as I was hesitant, she promised me that the girl she will choose will make it worth my while. I really trust her and in order not to disappoint her I accepted (good business call on her side).
She called a name (secret) and a nice-is girl came out, not a stunner but not a bad looking girl either; “service must be good” I thought.
[b]Let me clarify one thing about this Massage Place: it is CHEAP !!!!!
Any Oily in the Area charges 400thb for Oil Massage but at Smile Massage, 400thb buys you 1,5 hours.
The 2 hours session is 550thb (what Japanese oriented places charge for 1 hour)[/b]
Up in the room (the VIP one) she tells me I am very handsome and she is happy and lucky, she hugs me and starts sniffing my neck: things are starting nicely (although maybe the Mamasan told her to give me this great service). I don’t care, I am not going to complain about good service.
We hop in the shower and she washes me thoroughly with her hands, then with her breasts, I kiss her, she kisses me back: it’s ON!
After some kisses, caresses and groping (still in the shower) she kneels and take my half erect member in her mouth, gives me a good blowjob and makes me sit down, gives me a kiss and continues the Blowjob until I come in her mouth. She washes me again and I feel greatly relieved of whatever hornyness I had earlier.
On to the bed she asks me if I want a massage but I had other Plans, lay her down and start a DATY session that she seems to appreciate. Her pussy is tight and I was worried I could enter her at all (and I’m not BIG).
She pulled those huge condom packet (56) and I gently told her I wasn’t built like a Black guy LOL
I settled on a 54 and luckily she has some KY which helped a lot. Sex was fantastic and I was drained! I felt I could not come a third time so we stayed on the bed and talked a little bit.
I gave her a great tip and complimented the mamas an on her excellent choice. She winked at me and said: “I know what you like” (and she sure did)
My fav place at the moment, by a clear mile!
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Incredibly rude!
[QUOTE=NicFrenchy]Let me put this in terms you will relate to: You have a special relationship with YOK, she trusts you and you pay her well. If she was to be sponsored and leave tulip, you think she would burn her bridges with you? No way. Moreover, you will wnat to see her when you are in BKK.[/QUOTE]No I don't relate to this sort of stuff!
Its not your business to act like a spy and report on what other people are doing and what you think they might be doing. Mind your own business!
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I'm not a huge fan of having Tulip split off from the regular MP thread, but one fun result was seeing SF's post about his first visit to Tulip and first encounter with Yok. Now to read the other 50+ pages. :)
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[QUOTE=Soap Fan]No I don't relate to this sort of stuff![/QUOTE]
Really? well, at least deep down you know the real answer to this. Minding my own business you say? get off your high horse and read your previous posts, you make as many assumptions on me as I do on you so don't come complaining later ;)
Now back to posting some reports... by the way, not a lot of reports on your side during your last visit? which Massage Parlors did you visit?