Moscow

One last question and thanks for the responses. I found a 4 star hotel on Orbitz for St. Petersburg for 40 a night. If I can't make it to Moscow, does the quality of the women in terms of looks really change much if I go to St. Petersburg? I mean they are all Russians right?

Tip #1:

I always go back to the the textbook used by the graduate and college programs. Middleburry College in Vermont has the best Russian program and the professors there put together a list of Russian books and tapes that they recommend to students. I will work off that list.



Below is just off beaten topic rambling:

Rambling #1:

Also, keep in mind that when you meet these girls, and they have access to Internet, I bet they are chatting with other guys. If you bring them back, make sure you are not the bank financing their trip only to deliver them to someone they already met online. Just a crazy thought that hit me.

Rambling #2

I am looking at Russia as a fun trip no committments because no matter how easier it is to meet women in Russia, I think love is what wins the heart. I really think that you need a short term and long term strategy. Short term can be escorts or models or adult models. But long term, you have to find someone and work on the heart. No amount of money can buy that.

I think that if you focus on the heart, you can find a college age chick in the US. For the past few weeks, I lost my self confidence because I was sick and stuck behind the desk doing paperwork. Over the weekend, I started searching for college chicks. Coming home, I drove past a beautiful girl sitting on the curb at 12 midnight with a very sad look. I pulled the car over and asked her what was wrong and told her I had been looking for someone all night to talk to and couldn't believe that she was sitting by herself. That is how I met her.

Yeah it requires a lot of work and rejection but that is what you ultimately have to do long term. If you decide that you want to spend the rest of your life with a Russian chick, you will eventually have to do it sooner or later.

That is why my strategy is short term Russian chicks but long term back to the good old USA.

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Hakan Demir,

You don’t accept PM therefore I write like this.

Short of long Moscow mongering.

1-Internet. [url]www.intimcity.ru[/url] is the most reliable web site. The prices are market prices and most of the time, you will get what you see. Tested several times. Don’t get shock when you realize that the girl you ask doesn’t speak a word of English. Usually the dispatcher speaks English and always prepare yourself that girls may gain extra kgs.

2-Clubs and bars. Nothing was left from the good old days but Chersterfield in Kurskaya is still one of the rat holes where you may easily find girls. Most of them speak English.

Night Flight in Tverskaya where the cash is king is the place where you find expensive girls. It doesn’t matter whether you pick girl or not but it’s a must see place.

Don’t forget always negotiate with the girls. Tell them what you want, ask them what they are open for. BJ w.out condom-Greek, etc.

Fabrique close to Pavelatkaya metro on the river side is another hot club for expats. Speaking English with the bouncers will open doors for your. Normal cover 300 rubles, VIP cover $100 per person. Full of hottest chicks but possibilities depend on your talent and the ability to speak Russian.

B2, 3 floor dance club/restaurant. Mostly girls next door type girls. The quality is lower than Fabrique but easy to access and easy to find freebies.

Karma, where I hate the most. Most of the expats love that place but my luck has never turn there.

4-Tochka. Find a irregular taxi and tell him to take you one of the tochkas. But some drivers may find it offensive. Most of them are regular guys who try to make extra rubles on the way their homes. I know Doc and others may disagree with me, but the best way to go to tochkas is the CF drivers. Yes they are scammers but at least they know where to go. You should negotiate the price before you take the taxi.

5-Strip clubs. I don’t recommend picking girls from strip clubs. If you like these places definitely hang out at MisterrXXX in Nowy Arbat and Rhino behind the Angara Casino in Nowy Arbat.

6-House parties. If you have friends and if they throw a house party, it is possible to get laid.

I have never used chat sites such as love.mail.ru or similar ones. Most of the girls who are directly asking money after the 3rd conversations are scammers; besides it will be difficult communicate if you don’t speak Russian.

You don't have to a prick about it. I spent 2 days searching for someone to talk to. I made eye contact with a lot of women. But they all had that attitude. Like you. That is why I can't stand fucking people like that. I wanted someone down to earth and normal. She stood out because she was so beautiful sitting by herself. But it took me 2 days to find someone like her. It's a college campus.

How do you want to meet someone when you are not looking for escorts? Someone that you went to school with? work with? Someone your own age? That's right: settle for the lowest common denominator because it's the easy way out. Do you think that ***** hasn't had 7 dicks up her ass even though you met her at work?

Try finding someone young and attractive and in college and maybe hasn't been porked by every Tom Dick and Joe. Try even finding the balls to go up and talk to someone instead of paying for it.


What would you rather me do? Hunt down women and take photos and post them like you? I am sure that is meaningful, you fucking loser.

How many fucking times do you have to post the photos of that girl? You post it on the Russian, Ukariane, Czech pages. You paid for sex and the photo. Big fucking deal.

I am trying to figure out a way to make the most of my life without paying for it, you fucking loser.

I am up for Nightflight just as anyone else. But why would you spend 200-300 a night for a hot girl if you can find a normal girl who looks the same for free? What you are proposing is not logical.





[QUOTE=Bez Bezarra]Oh yeah, of course. Finding sad hot
girls sitting alone
on the street at midnight is definitely the key to
starting a meaningful long term relationship in America.[/QUOTE]

I just have to get this off my chest. I contacted a Russian girl off of a mainstream site and she responded right away and asked some questions. But just from talking to her, it just left a bad taste in my mouth. This is more work than dealing with an American girl.

The best anology I can think of is that I have friends who use a dating site. But the reception you get is worse than meeting someone in a bar. Every time I go into a bar, there is always at least one person who talks to you. I don't know if it is group psychology or what. But it is easier than online.

So as I am dealing with this Russian girl, I am asking myself is this more work or less work than the mainstream girls I am dealing with. It is more work. She left me in a pretty bad mood too. But I can't tell the difference. It's not like dealing with her is any easier simply because she lives in Russia.

Guy2:

"So as I am dealing with this Russian girl, I am asking myself is this more work or less work than the mainstream girls I am dealing with. It is more work."

Then stop writing her.

"It's not like dealing with her is any easier simply because she lives in Russia."

Beautiful and sexy Russian girls, particularly those from Moscow or Petersburg or really any major city are no longer waiting around to be "rescued" by some foreigner. To make them yours you have to give them something that is of value to them. Internet chat isnt going to get any 8-10s all wet between the legs.

Trying to shop for 9s and 10s on the net can be a pretty humbling experience. In all honesty, girls at that level ARE actually easier to get along with in real life. In the net they just get bombarded by messages from guys.

Not just Guy2 but Guy3, Guy4 and Guy697. We are sheep to them until we put on a pair of horns and become bulls. Bulls with big... wallets.

Go to a top Moscow club and watch the show. Supposedly studly know it all guys of moderate means hitting on models and getting rejected. Watch model leave with some greasy looking dweeb... in his S-class Merc. Considering the "fringe benefits" of her choice of company... clothes, cash, status and more cash... her decision seems understandle, even as frustrating it is for anyone playing by the normal rules of intersexual relations. You can get a long way with very cute girls in the 7 and 8 category with romance, intellect, charm and moderate spending, but as soon as she starts to think she's a 9, she'll start "demanding" star treatment. Whether you choose to play along is up to you.

"But why would you spend 200-300 a night for a hot girl if you can find a normal girl who looks the same for free?"

Well can you? The way you're whining... and no offense meant... it certainly sounds like you can't. That's what pros are for. Pay some money and fuck the girl that wasn't going to fuck you 5 minutes ago. Now she is. Like magic!

"Yeah it requires a lot of work and rejection but that is what you ultimately have to do long term. If you decide that you want to spend the rest of your life with a Russian chick, you will eventually have to do it sooner or later.

That is why my strategy is short term Russian chicks but long term back to the good old USA."

Have you ever had a Russian girlfriend? I mean a real girlfriend? Most of the ones I have had.. who aren't the club model type being passed around from one oligarch to the next... are young, beautiful (7-8 category) student or early 20's types. Most want families and children and are the most sincere, sexy and loving women I have known. I don't see why someone looking for long-term love would have to look any farther... but they are also demanding in the sense that they want real men, men who work hard, earn well and bring home the bacon.

As much as I like the show "King of Queens", the portly main character Doug, who seems to personify the average American Joe, wouldnt qualify as a real man in any Russians book. As loving as he is, he is too lazy and lethargic.

One of my ex-girlfriends mother was chewing me out one day and told me very sincerely that "love is more than words, love is more than an emotion". For Russians, and this includes the younger generation, love is also support, security both physical and financial.

I lived in Moscow, when it was the capital of the Soviet Union. A foreigner was a good catch for those relatively few women whom the KGB authorized to deal with foreigners or who were just reckless enough not to know better. There was a twist, though. It was a Russian woman's dream to marry a foreigner but not to leave Moscow. The reason: With a foreign husband and his material perks, she was the envy of everyone in Moscow. Even if the poor slob husband was not rich, she acquired things that her sisters probably had never seen and was entitled to shop in hard-currency shops where fine wines, liquor and imported food items were available that others could only salivate about. These women knew that if they moved to the West, they would be homesick and they and their husbands would be nobodies.

Russian women's current materialism is an interesting phenomenon. Instead of foreigners, they go for homegrown fat cats. They know they have to clean those guys as quickly as possible because you don't have to be a ganster to be bumped off in Moscow. I wonder how many of the women actually get a contract on their sugar daddies! They are sluts in their hearts.

I was impressed with the high quality of women on the [url]http://www.intimcity.ru.To[/url] see them and their prices, go to the very left hand upper corner of the site, where it says in red Russian letters GLAVNAYA, then hit the next word for individualki (individuals) or saloni (*****houses).

Many of the girls on the intimcity.ru site have impressive breasts. Are today's Russian pros into boob jobs, or are they all natural.

Could be the latter. In the Soviet Union, it was a joke to establish working class credetials. As in "moya mama tozhe doyarka" ("My mother, too, was a milk maid).

[QUOTE=Guy #2]

You don't have a prick.

I spent 2 days searching for someone
to talk to with an attitude Like you.

I can't fuck someone normal because it
took me 2 days to come with 7 dicks up
my ass instead of paying for it.


Would you rather me take photos and post them like you?
I am sure a fucking loser.

How many fucking times do you have Ukariane sex and fuck.

I am a totol fucking loser.

I am just a hot girl for free

What you are not.

[/QUOTE]

Gee I don't think I can top that!
Thanks Guy#Number#Dumber#Numb#Bum#Gums

Dear All,
I will be visiting Moscow for the first time early in October. I wanted to ask some of the experts over here for some advice.
I have been searching the net for massage parlours (the erotic type) and found out plenty, all offering the same types of services. In the case when i find abundance, i always like to ask the experts about which are the best ones?

I noticed some names like Fabrique, NightFlight & B2. Are these places worth visiting? What are the highly recommended ones for someone who has 4 nights in Moscow.

I am staying in President Hotel, so I read in the reviews of this hotel, that its heavily guarded. Does this mean I will be facing problems getting girls back to my room?

I figured out tochkas means *****houses:), but should I ask taxi drivers to take me there or would they think of it as insulting? If not, then, would anyone recommend good ones with normal prices?

I thank all the people here for the valuable contributions, but I just need some more information to draw a clearer picture of how moscow would be before I drop by.

THanks
Rewe

To Doctor Skank:

Thanks, Doc, for your greate posting. I could sighn under each word (but doubt that I’d be able to put them together in such a beautiful manner ;)


To Vittu:

“It was a Russian woman's dream to marry a foreigner but not to leave Moscow” – The key words “it was”. It’s no more the dream of Russian women, God bless you...

“Russian women's current materialism is an interesting phenomenon. Instead of foreigners, they go for homegrown fat cats. They know they have to clean those guys as quickly as possible because you don't have to be a ganster to be bumped off in Moscow. I wonder how many of the women actually get a contract on their sugar daddies! They are sluts in their hearts”. – There are many other women, too. More than you can imagine. Escorts and fat-cats girlfriends are less than 10% of population. Fifteen years ago it was inportant for many girls to get sugar daddies support, but now there are a lot of other posibilities. Now women in Russia search for real people. Both with good personality and with money. Two in one.

“Are today's Russian pros into boob jobs, or are they all natural”. – They always were and they are and they will be. Depends on the condition of real ones. Now sergery is getting better and more afortable, but still, you can find some natural brests. And you can always see the difference.


To Rewe:

“I am staying in President Hotel, so I read in the reviews of this hotel, that its heavily guarded. Does this mean I will be facing problems getting girls back to my room?” – To get a girl to your room you’ll have to call on security desk and ask them to make a pass for your girl. In this pass must be the girls exact name, as well, as your own and your room number. That’s all.

“I just need some more information to draw a clearer picture of how moscow would be before I drop by”. – Invite me in your first evening – and Moscow is in your pocket ;)))))))))


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Rewe,


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Tochkas are spots where you drive and pick your girl.

Try once but don't stick on MPs; you are in Moscow; don't waste your time....

Helena:

I really adore Russian girls and have had almost always very nice experiences with them on all levels of relations, so it is easy to write such words. In fact, I have to hold myself back, otherwise I would write a book! :)

Rewe:

This might help answer some of your tochka questions:
[url]http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=445088&postcount=3427[/url]

Obviously you haven't been researching for your trip very well. There is a lot of consolidated information in the "Reports of Distinction" thread.

Also, I fully agree with Big Bro AJ that the best tochka drivers are to be found outside of the infamous pickup bar "Boarhouse", across the street from Kursky train station on Zemlenoi Val street. If you can find the gigantic Atrium shopping center, look across the street and you will see a bunch of taxis in front of a bar... that's Boarhouse and the taxi drivers... although a bit expensive... do know where to find girls.

Just some service info.

Today it was not working properly... now (approx. 20.00 GMT) it's OK

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