Phnom Penh

I assume you've planned this trip / arrival to Cambodia for some time. (Not just a few days ago.) You will probably already be in country by the time you get a response. Ssuggestion: survey the reports on this board; hit the hostess bars on Streets 104-136; find a farang who will be able to answer your questions.

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[QUOTE=Mlang;2750467]I will land in Phnom Penh tomorrow, I'll be there for a week and then I'll be heading to Malaysia and Philippines. First time in Phnom Penh for me. I know the drill in other places like Thailand, but I've read that it is significantly more difficult to get some action in Cambodia. I'm mainly looking for full service. What are the options for ST / LT FS in PP?

From what I've gathered on this forum and other places, the options for FS are limited. If any members with experience in Phnom Penh could share, it would be appreciated. Which of the following ways is the best to get ST FS?

- Are there freelancers offering ST / LT in different streets? Which streets?

- Do the massage parlors offer FS or just BJs / HJs?

- How easy is it to find freelancers trough online apps like Tinder, Bumble, Badoo, and so on? Anything country-specific for Cambodia, like ThaiFriendly for Thailand?

- Are there Telegram groups to contact freelancers in Cambodia? When I was in Thailand I successfully used Sideline, or Telegram other groups, and they worked great for me in Bangkok. There are these groups where freelancers (or their agents) post some sort of ads with their services and photos. I had some of my best experiences in Thailand using these Telegram groups, is there anything similar in Cambodia?[/QUOTE]

I was just in Phnom Penh and found action was cheap and easy. I stayed at the TAO Residence on the waterfront (girl-friendly). It is only a short walk to Street 130 and 134. In spite of how it sounds, these two streets are only a block apart and all the girly bars are in the last two blocks toward the river.

The girls seem to be out early in the evening, although I saw some as early as noon. As you walk down the street they will call to you trying to get you to come over. Actually during the daylight or just around sunset is a good time to find a girl as they are easier to see and check out than when it is dark.

If you spot one or two to your liking, you just walk over. Make eye-contact with the one you are interested in and ignore the others clamoring for you. The mama will suggest you go inside. There it is dark and they have cushy seats to sit on. The girl will sit next to you and rub your leg and / or kiss you. The mama will want you to buy a drink for yourself and the girl ($5. 50). She will want one for herself, too, but just say no. The bar fine is $12 to $15.

If the girl does not speak good English, the mama will interpret. Give them your requirements and when it is all agreed to, you are off to your hotel. It couldn't be easier.

My first night I picked a very enthusiastic 33 year old. She was DFKing me at the bar before we ever left. It only got better once in the room. I had read here that the Khmer women may not be into everything (BBBJ, DFK, DATY), but I found that not to be the case. We had a wild, unrushed session. Total damage was $65.50 (but who is counting?

Last time I visited Cambodia was in 2008, stayed for a month at Walkabout (think that's the correct name of the place, it's been a long and hard 16 years. Paid like 12.00 a day.

Already know that place is long gone, but planning on visiting some old stomping grounds. Shanghai, Sharky, Pontoon and HOD.

Financial situation a little better, so will be staying at NagaWorld this time around. Any info on Darling Darling would be appreciated, along with Casino Ladies.

Have my Cambodia e-visa approved, cell phone roaming upgraded, Naga APPT 55.00 per night deal reservations and airline tickets.

Only planning on having 1000.00 in cash on me upon arrival and just hitting the ATMs as needed.

Found it a bit strange that NagaWorld doesn't accept American Express for both room bookings and cash advances?? Do ATMs in Cambodia accept American Express??

Have a MasterCard, but usual use my American Express when traveling for points.

Oh, staying for 6 days and have some time to maybe make a short trip out of PP.

Any info / suggestions for my trip will be appreciated.

Thanks for the update. That's great to hear! I'd shared similar concerns as Mlang and some others over the past few months that maybe bar fining wasn't that easy anymore. And sorry to say that some recent posts haven't been altogether helpful with 2022 details beyond whetting our appetites (seems obvious that older posts are of limited relevance now). So this is good information and much appreciated. Just a couple of follow up questions, if you don't mind:

- It sounds like TAO residence is uber convenient for bringing girls back. How are you finding TAO residence for overall stay and value, together with your night activities?

- Was $65.60 Short Time or Long Time / overnight? Sounds like it was a single session - 1 q only, or 2?

Cheers, and greatly looking forward to my December PP adventure.

[QUOTE=RedRider;2754996]I was just in Phnom Penh and found action was cheap and easy. I stayed at the TAO Residence on the waterfront (girl-friendly). It is only a short walk to Street 130 and 134. In spite of how it sounds, these two streets are only a block apart and all the girly bars are in the last two blocks toward the river.

The girls seem to be out early in the evening, although I saw some as early as noon. As you walk down the street they will call to you trying to get you to come over. Actually during the daylight or just around sunset is a good time to find a girl as they are easier to see and check out than when it is dark.

If you spot one or two to your liking, you just walk over. Make eye-contact with the one you are interested in and ignore the others clamoring for you. The mama will suggest you go inside. There it is dark and they have cushy seats to sit on. The girl will sit next to you and rub your leg and / or kiss you. The mama will want you to buy a drink for yourself and the girl ($5. 50). She will want one for herself, too, but just say no. The bar fine is $12 to $15.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Volterra;2755358]- It sounds like TAO residence is uber convenient for bringing girls back. How are you finding TAO residence for overall stay and value, together with your night activities[/QUOTE]I stayed there one night a few years ago (pre-covid) and found it not worth the 60 dollars per night, that's why I stayed just a day.

The room in itself was good and big. But I didn't have the riverside view, mine was on the first floor and directed on the street.

The street was not considered to be safe at night (at least from the night clerk's view), so he was closing the entrance doors at night.

It's very annoying when you come back late at night and have to knock on the door to wake him up, especially when you're accompanied by a prostitute.

Others on this forum said they were satisfied by the place but I found it way overpriced.

TAO has been recently updated and is very nice. I couldn't have been happier. The only nit is that it is one of those places that the air conditioning and lights go out when you leave. Otherwise, I would highly recommend it.

Any savvy traveler knows to leave all but one of their credit cards, extra cash and passport in their safe when they are out. I was out every night and didn't worry, nor see anything out of the ordinary.

The $65.50 was for 1 girl ST. She was not a clock watcher (she came twice with DATY, so maybe she was distracted).

As you leave the bar to head to the hotel, other girls will offer to come along and join in, so that option is there.

Red Rider.

Cheers to both Red Rider and Paolo99. Sounds like there have been a bunch of places in PP and BKK finishing up their post covid touch ups in time for December travelers. I'll try out a few guest friendlies to see which ones work for me, but I'll also check out the TAO. Sounds like your ST was a nice meal. Hope I can find similar dining options. I'll jot some thoughts down in January after my new year's rampage (if I survive). Gearing up for it!

So like everyone-after 2 plus years of being locked up, finally got to release the shackles and spend 4 weeks back in Cambodia covering mid September until mid October.

I am a long time and experienced traveller to Cambodia, now pushing 15 years since first time here and this would be trip number 20 something. Time was spent approx 2 weeks in Phnom Penh and somewhere between a week and 2 weeks travelling to other parts of the county to catch up wit family and friends. Other parts mainly being Kampot and Battambang!

Personals circumstances dictate that my best time to get away for some fun play time is early afternoon to evening, however interspread were certainly some night time fun as well.

Firstly, Phnom Penh, the girly bar scene is certainly alive and kicking. Looks like there has been some bar closures and some renamed etc (sadly Mr Butterfly Bar is no longer. Kinda missed the $20 blow and go services there from years past) - but all in all things are pretty much the same. And that means that some bars can be very hit and miss, the talent to me seems similar to before, a couple of decent hotties in most bars mixed with some older long time workers, fresh from the Provence girls with little English, buy me drink princesses. The entire gamut of options.

Now to list which bars where better etc- I always find can be of not much value as things change frequently- girls come and go etc. So I had some fun and took a nice late 20's hottie from Step Wife Bar on 136 one night. Individual prices / bar fines etc have become a blur to me, so from a bar fines perspective the going rate seems to be approx $10 - $15. Lady drinks seem to in the range of $3. 50 $5. 00 dependant upon the bar. I don't go in too Cheap Charlie and be thrifty on the lady drinks, nor do I get sucked into 4 girls hovering around the table all wanting a drink when I have set my laser focus on the one I want to nail that night. So for first time travellers or inexperienced Phnom Penh mongers I know you can easily fall into the trap of buying numerous girls in the same bar at your table numerous drinks, and this can cause your bill to be far larger than you would have expected come the end of your drinking session. So that's just a word of warning to the uninitiated!

Given I have above average Khmer language skills I tend to have fun times and good conversations with the girls in the bars and also I think the language helps me in negotiations as well. Again- this is not a hard and fast rule, just my personal approach is I tend to pay between $30 - $50 for short time. Some will say that's too little, others will argue too much, whatever, it's where I set my own monger budget and it works for me.

So I played mainly in streets 136,130 and 118- wandered but didn't shop in streets 5 or 110 as I have on previous trips. Found a nice very playful girl via WeChat who works at HeartBreak bar on 118 who I booked a couple of times, once during the day before her shift began- fun times.

Whilst I stated most bars are a blur and pretty similar in my eyes, Tokyo Bar on 118 , a big fancy double fronted bar with lots of hot girls out the front is a dud. It's just bland and sterile. I have a feeling it's set up for Asian travellers who are happy to throw many hundreds or dollars around per night. Honourable mentions for places I had fun go to Pussycat Bar on 136 and Island Bar on 118.

From a freelancer perspective, as mentioned, I use WeChat as an app to hunt, with mixed results. Seemed to be a higher number of lady boys this time round if that's your thing, but I did find a nice young thing who worked at a massage shop and obviously uses WeChat to drum up some alternate solo business on the side. I paid $30 short time, meeting at dodgy St 136 guest houses!

Also Riverside freelancers where aplenty once the sun went down. Pick yourself a park bench, turn your back to the street and face the river and your will have numerous girls (and again lady boys) trying to grab your eye, give you a little wave, or unashamedly just come up and sit next to you and start the negotiations, it's ain't too subtle but each party knows what we are there for! For me this was the cheapest and nastiest experiences with $20 easily accepted, plus the $8- $10 guest house fee dependant upon where they suggested!

So other areas- Kampot I was with the wife and family / friends a lot, so no time to play. We did do some girly bar hopping and whilst I wouldn't say from what I saw the talent was exceptional, many bars have sprung up since I was last in Kampot in early 2020. Speaking to a girl we know who owns / manages a bar, like herself, she has said many of the bars are consequence of bar owners leaving Sihanoukville and setting up in Kampot. Don't hold me to the accuracy of the numbers but I would say they are probably 20 odd girly bars now in Kampot spread across the river front and back along the old market buildings immediately as you walk off the river front. So I can't vouch for prices or quality of services BUT I can assure you there is now a mini scene in Kampot!

As for Battambang. WeChat came to the rescue with a very tight young bodied hottie. She started asking $100, she ended up receiving $50 , and a decent pounding!!

And also in Battambang, approx 10 pm one night with our driver, stumbled across so good freelance action on street 127 , which is like a one way little promenade with gardens in the middle-girls sitting on park benches dressed in obvious "come pay to fuck me" clothes. So took a decent looker from there and was happy to pay $30 for a nice session (plus guesthouse room fee).

So all in all a damn good trip. Was so good to finally get back and play in Cambodia after more than 2. 5 years. Generally travel back every 6-9 months so it was a long time between drinks (and bar girl pussy LOL).

Plans to return likely in March 2023 - so I will keep my eyes peeled to the Phnom Penh Forum for latest on the ground reports. Happy to answer any questions people may have as well.

Stay safe and enjoy the punt.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2756451]So like everyone-after 2 plus years of being locked up, finally got to release the shackles and spend 4 weeks back in Cambodia covering mid September until mid October.


...Firstly, Phnom Penh, the girly bar scene is certainly alive and kicking. Looks like there has been some bar closures and some renamed etc (sadly Mr Butterfly Bar is no longer. Kinda missed the $20 blow and go services there from years past) - but all in all things are pretty much the same. And that means that some bars can be very hit and miss, the talent to me seems similar to before, a couple of decent hotties in most bars mixed with some older long time workers, fresh from the Provence girls with little English, buy me drink princesses. The entire gamut of options.

...Also Riverside freelancers where aplenty once the sun went down. Pick yourself a park bench, turn your back to the street and face the river and your will have numerous girls (and again lady boys) trying to grab your eye, give you a little wave, or unashamedly just come up and sit next to you and start the negotiations, it's ain't too subtle but each party knows what we are there for! For me this was the cheapest and nastiest experiences with $20 easily accepted, plus the $8- $10 guest house fee dependant upon where they suggested!

DingoD.[/QUOTE]Nice report DD!

You did not mention anything about Darling, the pick up club in the casino. Do you know if that's back in business? How about Cyrcee?

[QUOTE=Lefeu;2756502]Nice report DD!

You did not mention anything about Darling, the pick up club in the casino. Do you know if that's back in business? How about Cyrcee?[/QUOTE]Sorry. How did I forget my time at Cyrcee! YES. Still open, operating and still the best place for guaranteed 100% no bullshit action. Besides the compulsory lady drink. Like normal, entered, swarmed by 5 girls. Told to pick one, did, was then left alone. Funny thing was going on with the other girls though, they were getting beers from outside and sneaking them pass the prying eyes of the French owner and drinking them in lieu of a slow night BUT the cans they were buying were unrefrigerated, and obviously boss man doesn't allow them to drink outside drinks and use the house ice, so my girl kept asking for her last drink to be topped up with ice and then he other girls would sneak across, grab the ice out of her glass, and then use that for their warm beers!!

I took a hottie, as she said the boss knew me I was able to use the in house upstairs rooms. Think the price was $50 for the girl and $12 for the room-the girl I took said this very young thin looking spinner was her niece and I should take her too.hmmmm. I'll leave that treat for 2023!!

As for Darling Darling. Not in my rotation, the Mrs allows me to take off to girly bars knowing I like a drink and to causally play and flirt with girls (and as much as I believe that's all I think she thinks I do) BUT Darling Darling would likely be a step too far in the obvious "I'm a sleazin around bad bad hubby" LOL.

DingoD.

[QUOTE=DingoD;2756514]Sorry. How did I forget my time at Cyrcee! YES. Still open, operating and still the best place for guaranteed 100% no bullshit action. Besides the compulsory lady drink. Like normal, entered, swarmed by 5 girls...[/QUOTE]I just love that place! I've met some sweet girls there and I always had a great time. One becomes a mongering hero there, as girls swarm over you and each one of them pleads for her case. One year, my wingman took 4 girls to the room. Not sure how they could all fit in those tiny rooms, but they were dirt cheap.

So I went through the forums and have gathered basic info regarding my upcoming trip. But I still have some questions. Hoping someone can help me out with them:

1. How do you find freelancers? I understand that there are freelancers in the lobby of NagaWorld2, so looks like I'm going to have to be there for a week, but apart from them. Zalo and line had closed their nearby services in Vietnam. I think same might be the case with Phnom Penh.

2. I see that Tao residencies is basically full. Is there any other property which is similar (is a residency) on the riverside and is girl friendly.

[QUOTE=UngaBang;2762825]So I went through the forums and have gathered basic info regarding my upcoming trip. But I still have some questions. Hoping someone can help me out with them:

1. How do you find freelancers? I understand that there are freelancers in the lobby of NagaWorld2, so looks like I'm going to have to be there for a week, but apart from them. Zalo and line had closed their nearby services in Vietnam. I think same might be the case with Phnom Penh.

2. I see that Tao residencies is basically full. Is there any other property which is similar (is a residency) on the riverside and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]There is a ton of information in this thread on how to find girls and how much they cost, but you need to read a few more pages. Good luck.

I'm currently in Vietnam and the nearby feature is definitely active on the LINE app. Soooo many offers for services. I'm hoping that's a viable option for a Cambodia. I'll be there in December.

Taco.

[QUOTE=UngaBang;2762825]So I went through the forums and have gathered basic info regarding my upcoming trip. But I still have some questions. Hoping someone can help me out with them:

1. How do you find freelancers? I understand that there are freelancers in the lobby of NagaWorld2, so looks like I'm going to have to be there for a week, but apart from them. Zalo and line had closed their nearby services in Vietnam. I think same might be the case with Phnom Penh.

2. I see that Tao residencies is basically full. Is there any other property which is similar (is a residency) on the riverside and is girl friendly.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=UngaBang;2762825]So I went through the forums and have gathered basic info regarding my upcoming trip. But I still have some questions. Hoping someone can help me out with them:

1. How do you find freelancers? I understand that there are freelancers in the lobby of NagaWorld2, so looks like I'm going to have to be there for a week, but apart from them. Zalo and line had closed their nearby services in Vietnam. I think same might be the case with Phnom Penh.[/QUOTE]Freelancer options are significantly fewer than just a few years ago. Legacy freelancer joints like Martini and Walkabout are long gone. I reached out to a group of guys who live in PP or visit often. Their assessment is the same as mine. Not a lot of choice. You have the upscale Nagaworld chicks, you can find them at Pontoon, and you have the streetwalkers around what Phnom and along the riverside. Unless you are comfortable with druggies, potential thieves, and assorted issues, I'd stay clear of the streetwalkers. Though beer gardens around the city also offer potential (and known to a Khmer professional sort and friend), it should be noted that if you don't speak Khmer (or your target doesn't speak English), you'd be wasting your time. I'm unsure if Pontoon is even open at this moment. Conflicting reports and YouTube videos could have been edited or posted months or years ago and reposted recently. If I were you, I'd settle for the hostess bars. You won't save any money, but you might save yourself unnecessary grief.

SS.