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[quote=syzygies;1455584]be careful. **** girl promotion is a taboo subject on the forum. so make sure your girls are old enough. i am trying to be careful to check age of doubtful girls these days. don't want to risk problems and embarrassment. just checked an id other day of doll house girl and she was 31 lol.[/quote]the thing that would make me most happy, is when the mp or club asks to see my id to check if i'm of legal age. sadly, that hasn't happened to me in ages.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1455571]I hardly think so. Some guys avidly try every MP. Satrai2000 who used to be on the forum seemed to know every single MP, even the most obscure places with only HJ. I have to have a reason to do so. Time is limited to be able to randomly sample everything. Meanwhile there are plenty of feeders off the forum that report nothing useful in return. Some may be coveting very useful intel.
We can only dream of setting trends, for thinking about being helpful with actual useful girl intel. Some reporters are doing it. Just not enough. Some report on a specific girl with name, but then not quite enough detail for others to decide if she might appeal or not. We all may have vastly different girl ideal specs, so detail is vital. A guy who likes buxom porn stars with big silicones is not going to like my type of girls.
To me looks is massive and a dumb looking fake nose can kill the looks for me immediately.[/QUOTE]Descriptions of the girl and the sex are more helpful than ratings. I'll keep this in mind when I do my reports.
[quote=syzygies;1455584]be careful. **** girl promotion is a taboo subject on the forum. so make sure your girls are old enough. i am trying to be careful to check age of doubtful girls these days. don't want to risk problems and embarrassment. just checked an id other day of doll house girl and she was 31 lol.[/quote]very good advice.
i know the minimum legal age for a sw is 18 but i understand most venue, other than the thai-centric ones, look for ladies 20 and older. and of course i expect we've all had experiences with very young looking ladies who turned out to be in their later 20's. none the less i understand it's best to be careful and check when in doubt.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1455599]I know the minimum legal age for a SW is 18 but I understand most venue, other than the Thai-centric ones, look for ladies 20 and older.[/QUOTE]This is true for certain MPs, but not true at all for bars. If in doubt, I ask the bar staff how old the girl is. In bars where I am known they will tell the true age.
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1455449]Decided to take one for the forum today. Actually that is bullshit. To be honest took one for myself. However willing to share.
So I report for benefit of the forum, for the shop, and for the girl. I don't really mind if I am forced to make booking for this girl in future amid the semi-stampede LOL.
The saga started a week ago when exiting Soi 26 after seeing June at Snow White. Into the Soi walks this girl with dark red rinse hair, cute face and stupendous curves. I am a cute ass man! I followed enough to see her enter Yoremichi, the Orange coloured shop where Thonglor 1 used to be. I think Yoremichi has been there maybe a year.
If searching the web, try Yorimichi.
This week the story continues. As I enter Yoremichi I see several girls sitting outside eating. This was fortunate as spotted the dark red hair immediately. Otherwise I was going to be forced to ask for Miss "Transform" the slogan on her tee-shirt last week. The receptionist ladyboy was going to show me the menu etc, but I confessed without my glasses I would not be able to read it and in any case I wanted the red-haired girl with the black skirt. Decided on 90 mins Gel massage, however did not really give a rat's about the "massage" as such. Fortunately Miss Bai-Fern was available, and did not need to go through the list of girls at all.
Changed my sandals to their special ones and went to the room on 1st level (watch your head if you are tall). I had been to Thonglor 1 in the past and although saw a really nice girl there years ago, the place was a bit of a shit-hole. Now renovated the rooms are looking to be quite a good standard although not large. Bed is big enough. Nicely mirrored for perving from all angles.
Fern and I joked around. She was obviously a fun non-serious girl. We took the shower together and had great fun soaping each other up. Fern admitted that there are not many Farangs attending Yoremichi, but she really likes Farangs! More please!
Okay Her looks. A little bit reminiscent of Cat (formerly at Mango). Face very cute. Small face with nice upturned nose not broad and not fake. Taller and slimmer than Cat at 5' 2 maybe. Very small waist at 23 inches tops. Thigh 38+ (creating 60% ratio waist to thigh) so great hourglass curves and super ass. Flat belly no flab at all. Nice "gap" between inner thighs. Tits small high A cup no sag (no silicone of course). Comes from Nonthaburi. Sought work in BKK when floods came last year or year before. Completed general IT course and now saving to study Software Programming. Her English maybe rather weak. We conversed exclusively in Thai. Does not smoke, no child, no tats, no piercings, super immaculate, aged 21. Hot and she knows it. Not too shy.
We never got to the massage part. LOL. My fault! Started with molesting in the shower, plus kissing. Gave her a very long DATY on the bed, progressing to long 69. Not really to Deep Throat but uses hand very lightly at the base to enhance the feeling of depth. Nice slow soft and sloppy BBBJ with some balls licking etc. Had to control my feelings a bit since wanted to try other positions.
Condom applied she rode me first very enthusiastically, later changed to me sitting and her sitting on it rocking around. A bit of mish, some doggy etc. As wanted to really take in the spectacular ass. Finished during the doggy.
Very definite repeat girl, scores 9 out of 10 in almost all categories except tits 8 (a bit smallish). Hard to find faults, marks, blemishes, or anything wrong except the weak English I guess. Did not ask for CIM or anal but she is probably not a porn-star type. A very fun joking around type girl seemingly uninhibited (not shy). Gave her 500 extra tip due to the really fun and hot session. She has only 4 months experienced and originally was only 2 days a week, but more now that she likes the money and given up accounting and reception work (which did not allow sufficient savings for the future education).
Noticed on the way out that they had a couple of other cute girls doable to my fussy taste.
"Bai Fern" (Fern Leaf) is not on the website but some other pretty girls are (if pics can be believed at all. Okay exaggerated a bit) :
[url]http://yorimichimassage.com/ladies[/url]
I like the pics of Sunshine, Mimi, Yo, Nisa, Mook and Fon, if that helps to understand my taste. It must be a while since I looked at any web site and liked so many of the girls pics.
P. S. The vibe and welcome feeling I got in this shop was way better than some other Japanese oriented shops in the vicinity. This helps me get the feeling the girls are going to be fun rather than crap in the room. Ladyboy receptionist was very polite and helpful, and wanted to know how my session went at the end. Just fantastic of course.
I did not use the proforma (a little bit regimented for me) , but hope I did not leave out anything important.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the great report. Spurs me on to get out and try some new venues and of course report back.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch;1455478]And I like your taste in women, especially Yo, Nisa and Fon![/QUOTE]As I left another Farang was taking a girl, quite pretty, that was possibly Fon, judging from web pics. Cannot be certain but he chose well.
Fern's hair looks similar to Nisa's web pic hair but not quite so exaggeratedly styled. Fern thought that not many girls had dark red hair though, although some starting to copy. Some girls are apparently urging Fern to eat more to get rid of her tiny waist. LOL
[QUOTE=Syzygies; 1455591]Kumbu, just being technical for a minute. Are you sure you had tongue cramp. In my experience the tongue is the strongest muscle in the entire body. It never tires even slightly. I have had a cramp in the muscles under the jaw where jaw sort of locks up, but never a problem with actual tongue. Perhaps we actually talk about the same thing but see it differently.
Of course can be hard to breath if your nose is blocked.
People who talk non stop never get a tired tongue. Similarly DATY can go on and on with no tiring of the tongue only of the jaw and other parts of the body. Girls that do not have BJ stamina usually have a problem with jaw or breathing and not their tongue I think.[/QUOTE]Hah, that's hilarious. But sadly, whatever it was, it was definitely in my tongue. The root of my tongue, kind of in the front part (I don't know how else to describe it) began to literally cramp up. Maybe my tongue is out of shape and needs more exercise. You know what they say: a DATY a day keeps the doctor away.
[quote=syzygies;1455600]this is true for certain mps, but not true at all for bars. if in doubt, i ask the bar staff how old the girl is. in bars where i am known they will tell the true age.[/quote]more excellent advice. i imagine you know that lone star in nep recently got in trouble for **** girls. i understand the gogos are having a tough time recruiting enough girls and are resorting to hiring ****. even more troubling for me is what i have seen on occasions in the thai-centric soapies. it's very disturbing to see a girl who looks to be about 13, though she may be a couple years older than that, literally selling her virginity. i've seen this while with thai businessmen. they'd claim the girl would go for as much as thb100, 000. i have no idea if this is true.
After four nights with just some rather limited success in the renowned Go-gos I decided it would be worth popping into some of the more upmarket massage places in Ratchadaphisek road. I quickly worked out that even the best known establishments which have a reputation for being 'expensive', even with a farang surcharge, are probably not really that much more expensive compared to Go-gos.
So off I go to the famous road. Given that I have only been there twice a few years back and never got into the right mood due to being not used to such places where you have to walk around and evaluate ladies from close by and given that I'm much more relaxed about such places today it was probably a good idea this time.
[b]Summary in short[/b]
- Visited Emanuelle and Nataree;
- Visiting time 20. 00-21. 00 hours on Sunday 2013-08-04;
- Prices from 2000THB to 6000THB (for those young fair skin types) ;
- Number of girls on the menu: ~30 in Emanuelle and 40+ in Nataree (not sure exactly but there were quite a lot) ;
- Emanuelle feels more upmarket but Nataree has more girls and in my view more prettier and younger;
- Emanuelle was rather quiet while Nataree had no less than 15 customers hanging in the lounge and even felt a little noisy at times;
- Papasan in Emanuelle was very formal and all staff (except the girls of course) wore red uniforms. Feeling is something towards the hi end saunas in Macao but of course still quite far behind;
- Paapsan in Nataree was far less formal, more relaxed and somewhat more direct and what I would describe as more friendly and chatty. Quite an old guy as well.
[b]Detailed description[/b]
[b]Emanuelle[/b]
Entering [b]Emanuelle[/b] At around 20. 00 hours. They have quite a few staff inside (with red uniforms). One of them greets me and shows to the lounge where the girls are sitting. The lounge is right near the entrance on the right side.
I was a little surprised because I expected to see more girls. There were maybe 20 or so sitting in the brightly lit part of the lounge. None would match my taste though. No really young or slim cute type girls that I was after. Not even one. I did spot one hottie but she was leaving either with a customer or finishing work. The papasan explained that she 'gone home'.
Fishbowl ladies. Complete disappointment. No one that could even remotely match my idea of some good entertainment that evening.
I asked the papasan if there would be more girls later. He said yes. So I left and knowing that the area has quite a few massage places I was willing to check out some more establishments.
[b]Nataree[/b]
Just after leaving Emanuelle I realized that Nataree is actually right next to it. I knew it had reputation for young girls and so I entered to check it out.
Right upon entering the place you could see it's more busy and has more girls. However after circling the lounge and evaluating all candidates (including the expensive younger ones in the far right corner) to my disappointment I just couldn't see anyone I would want to go with.
So I asked for a beer and told the papasan that I'll take a second look a little later.
Again just like in Emanuelle I spotted one seemingly hot girl who didn't seem to have that extra fat on waist and legs or anywhere else for that matter. The second I was about ask for her she got up and gone. I asked the papasan and I've heard the same explanation 'she gone home'.
He then showed me another girl I might be interested but I wasn't. We then had a chat about what I really like. He sat down next to me at one of those cheap looking tables in the lounge and explained that most of the hottest girls come early about 16. 00 and because it's never a problem for them to get a customer after 3 or so customers most go home.
By then a young Japanese guy sat at the same table and to my own surprise he initiated a conversation. He was already done with business that day and was looking for someone for tomorrow. A very nice and fun guy. We spent another half hour or so discussing girls and tastes of Western and Japanese men. He said that of all places he already visited in the area Nataree seemed the best. We also established that I indeed possess a taste similar to most Japanese men which for someone living in Europe is a little unfortunate. He shared some of his beer with me (how nice) and we then circled the room to have a good look again.
The guy pointed to a few girls he liked but like before they did not seem to excite me one bit.
Then once again to the dark corner where the more expensive girls were positioned. The papasan quickly joined us and explained: this one 4000, this 5000. Nope. Not even one of them seemed any hot (there were about 6 of them). Young age and fair skin isn't enough. Body shape and good build is what I'd look at above all and they seem to have forgotten that one. Or maybe, like the old papasan guy explained previously, those were just 'leftovers' who didn't have enough customers that day.
I decided that this was probably about time to depart. After having spent an hour or so in the place and having looked at every single girl couldn't see nothing really good for myself. So no point to stay any longer.
I exchanged the contacts with my newly found Japanese friend and after wishing each other good luck went our own ways.
I decided to quickly pop in to Emanuelle again and see if any more girls arrived (it was past 21. 00 by then). Nope. It looked even worse than an hour before.
So this was it for my massage experience that night.
I can't say I was completely disappointed though. Nataree had a very solid amount of girls and I'm sure if I came a bit earlier or some other day during the week eventually I would have found what I was after. I guess my next time in Bangkok will have to be dedicated to touring all available places in the location because I'm not loosing hope to have a really extraordinary experience with a really hot 'model' type girl like I had in one if the popular saunas in Macao just a week ago. I'm sure Bangkok has to have something on offer for me too in that department.
I now have a question for those who are in the know.
Was the papasan at Nataree right? Do the hottest girls really come in early and finish early? Is it worth going there late afternoon instead of 20. 00?
[QUOTE=Der Tourist; 1455702]We then had a chat about what I really like. He sat down next to me at one of those cheap looking tables in the lounge and explained that most of the hottest girls come early about 16. 00 and because it's never a problem for them to get a customer after 3 or so customers most go home.
Was the papasan at Nataree right? Do the hottest girls really come in early and finish early? Is it worth going there late afternoon instead of 20. 00?[/QUOTE]Papasan speaks the truth. My advice, show up about 17:00, no later than 18:00. I think they typically arrive about 16:00 but they don't just walk in and hit the floor. These places have a wardrobe room, hair stylists and makeup artists to fix up the ladies. It may take 30 to 60 minutes before they're ready. Of course you could follow his advice to the letter and have a couple of drinks while you're waiting for the ladies to appear. That way you could immediate grab a lady that catches your fancy.
Next time you may wish to stop by Colonze 2. It is the most farang friendly (no farang surcharge) and has a reputation for having young, pretty ladies, many are supposed to be college students. To get there, keep walking down Ratchada past the Emerald Hotel, past The Lord, which is very upscale and worth a visit, until you come to Soi 7. Go down it and you'll see it a short distance down the Soi on the right.
[QUOTE=Paul Kausch; 1455731]Papasan speaks the truth. My advice, show up about 17:00, no later than 18:00. I think they typically arrive about 16:00 but they don't just walk in and hit the floor. These places have a wardrobe room, hair stylists and makeup artists to fix up the ladies. It may take 30 to 60 minutes before they're ready. Of course you could follow his advice to the letter and have a couple of drinks while you're waiting for the ladies to appear. That way you could immediate grab a lady that catches your fancy.
Next time you may wish to stop by Colonze 2. It is the most farang friendly (no farang surcharge) and has a reputation for having young, pretty ladies, many are supposed to be college students. To get there, keep walking down Ratchada past the Emerald Hotel, past The Lord, which is very upscale and worth a visit, until you come to Soi 7. Go down it and you'll see it a short distance down the Soi on the right.[/QUOTE]Thanks. I will do so. In fact, I'm thinking to spend a week in Bangkok just exploring the massage places in Ratchada. I don't even care that much about farang surcharge as long as I get what I really like. Too bad I didn't do this earlier.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1455702]Was the papasan at Nataree right? Do the hottest girls really come in early and finish early? Is it worth going there late afternoon instead of 20. 00?[/QUOTE]Your assessment of these places is very fair. Sometimes to really sus out the best girls in a place you need to have huge patience and sit for significant time, watching as they come out (rather than just seeing them disappear). Then perhaps you miss a fab girl because you see her and someone else has booked her, but at least can find out the name for a future booking. I would try Copacabana. It has a reasonable line-up at times.
Colonze 2 normally has a line-up that is just too small for me, although did not check it recently. Amsterdam may also be worth a try.
I found my favourite at Amsterdam by just sitting for a fair time. When she came out she was way cuter than the rest of the line-up to my eyes so I quickly followed and asked if she was available. Had to take her quickly before someone else did. Yes definitely go a bit earlier like 5PM to 6PM if you do not have a booking.
Even Emannuelle has some good looking girls. Its just a question of how to find them. The line-up sitting is usually unimpressive as you say. So many fake noses these days look very ordinary.
The hot girls are generally not the earliest starters of all, but you will really struggle to get one late.
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1455739]Thanks. I will do so. In fact, I'm thinking to spend a week in Bangkok just exploring the massage places in Ratchada. I don't even care that much about farang surcharge as long as I get what I really like. Too bad I didn't do this earlier.[/QUOTE]If you don't care about very steep Farang surcharge, Utopia has some pretty girls. Its well past its hey day and in decline meaning less girls than used to have but I spotted a few lookers one day. Also have a regular girl there. Utopia is in WattanaTham road which runs between Rama 9 and Ratchadaphisek road on a strange angle. I usually take a motorcycle there from MRT station Rama 9
[QUOTE=Der Tourist;1455739]Thanks. I will do so. In fact, I'm thinking to spend a week in Bangkok just exploring the massage places in Ratchada. I don't even care that much about farang surcharge as long as I get what I really like. Too bad I didn't do this earlier.[/QUOTE]Youll tire of mp's- trust me. Mp's are not much fun if you just sit waiting for something that may or may not show up.
I'm not criticizing you-by all means do what you want. But ill bet knowing you youll be back in the agogo scene very quickly.
Theres just no interaction of any kind in a mp besides the smile.
All but one of my best girls came from agogos.
[QUOTE=Streetwalker7;1455824]Youll tire of mp's- trust me. Mp's are not much fun if you just sit waiting for something that may or may not show up.[/QUOTE]That's funny. Most guys tire of the gogos and monger more frequently at MPs. Its much simpler when limited time available to make a booking with the papasan / mamasan and just show up and get on with it, once you have collected a few great girls.
Trust me! LOL.
I do gogos too, but that is only for late evening and just for going crazy now and then. Would not dream of doing it too many days in the week, where I could easily do an MP every day. MPs are generally going to save the guy time and money, except when choosing very expensive girls / venues.
What do you do with your days? Just sleep? LOL. I could not bring myself to Biergarten!
In the distant past, when I was not busy, I have sat in a Soapy place for many hours, in between sessions, drinking something, a bite to eat, doing a bit on the computer while keeping an eye on the girls coming and going from the fishbowl. This is suited to places the serve food and drinks at tables outside the fishbowl. Using this method, you soon become knowledgeable about who the very best girls are, at least looks-wise. Its possible to call girls over for a drink and chat too, till can decide if want to go with them or not. Call over two of them and then pick one is also possible.